And first, let's get to some of the breaking news that is happening around the country.
This one's a little shorter now that's post-election, but it's still important to remember everything that is going on.
And tonight, I have a couple of great guests with me.
We have Jessica Palmea from South Dakota Campanseine, and then we have Laura Scharr from South Carolina as well.
And we're going to be talking about kind of the next steps.
Now that it's post-election, what do we do to get ready for the election cycle coming up over the next couple of years?
So really look at this as halftime right now.
And the reality is we have state legislatures that we have to approach to try and change the election laws.
But first, let's take a look at some of the breaking news that is out there.
And right now, it is absolutely interesting that the alarming discovery is that 100% of the states that Kamala Harris won in 2024 allows voters to register without a photo ID.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
And here are the 19 states that have that.
And she won 13 of them.
So this tells us that we definitely, definitely have to make significant reforms.
Then going on to, you know, what happened with the media?
Well, obviously you're getting your real news here on Frank Speech.
And the reality is the viewership is increasing over here as well as other channels.
But look at what's happening over there at Poor Morning Joe and everywhere else.
We are seeing 40%, 55% just absolutely crashing.
The best line of it all is that even liberals don't like being lied to all of the time.
I thought that was just absolutely fantastic.
Then, of course, you know, what's voter integrity without a little bit more, you know, manipulation.
So here we've got Bucks County, Pennsylvania, still breaking the law by counting undated and incorrectly dated ballots in a race Dave McCormick has already won.
Can you believe that?
They're looking at incorrectly dated ballots in a race already won by President Trump and GOP senator-elect Dave McCormick.
That's just absolutely wrong.
And here we are almost a full week after the fact, and we still have this type of shenanigans going on.
So first, what I'd like to do is hopefully we've got Laura Schar on the line with us along with Jessica.
And so Laura is stating that she hasn't gotten it yet.
So if we want to try sending her a link again, we can see if we can get that.
And then we may go to a commercial break to see if we can get that.
Yeah, let's go ahead and start with Jessica.
And hey, Jessica, how are you doing?
Are you rested up after the eventful elections in South Dakota?
There was a lot on the menu in South Dakota.
So there was, let's see here, destroy the party, abort babies, steal the land, and smoke weed.
You know, so kind of the Quad effect of we don't want to indult be adults anymore and just steal everything from us.
But it sounds like the voters of South Dakota wised up and said no, thank you and protected the elections.
And your team, SD Camanseyen, had a lot to do with that, bringing awareness and working with so many of the other grassroot organizations that were out there.
So congratulations.
Well, and to you too, there's a lot of people across the state of South Dakota that deserve congratulations.
There was grassroots people who stood up and formed committees, no on Amendment H, no in November, and F yes, no on the rest.
And I think Travis Ismay's catchy phrase, F yes, no on the rest, really resounded with the voters.
And they were outgunned.
I don't even know what the ratio was for the out-of-state funds to the locally raised funds by the Patriots in the state, but they were far outfunded by out-of-state PACs funded by Soros and Hillary Clinton and West Coast billionaires.
And the people of South Dakota saw through all the lies, the false advertising that came on like every three minutes on Kellowland for the last month.
And they saw through it and voted to reject all the California style ballot initiatives and said, don't California my South Dakota.
It was great.
And what was interesting, though, and I looked at some of the early reports that were out there, the marijuana team spent about $1.6 million in South Dakota.
And then Travis Ismay and his supporters spent about $38,000 to try and make sure that they held the line in South Dakota.
The other thing that was interesting to your credit as well is the mail forwarding address, their vote from the 2020 election, which really had a huge influence on such an increase in the voter participation, but also influenced the 2020 decision on voting for marijuana.
But then subsequently in 2022, it fails.
And then they try again in 2024 and it absolutely gets obliterated.
And the voter turnout in these mail forwarding locations throughout the state cratered.
With a few exceptions, some grew.
But the main five that were kind of the tops, they actually were a lot lower than in years past.
And so I think that public awareness that SD Camincine and other team members have brought forward, I think, has brought awareness to what is actually happening.
Plus, it doesn't help that state farm took a little action as well.
Right.
Well, we saw across the country we have, what, 20 million missing voters.
And, you know, they were distributed across the United States.
And what better place to fill in a few fake ballots as through these mail forwarding services where a lot of these people, like we've canvassed them by phone and they don't live here.
They're registered to vote in different states and even told us that they did not vote in South Dakota in the 2020 election, yet somehow the state had a vote recorded for them.
So how did that happen?
And when you look at that, that precinct where the America's Way mailbox place is, that has 16,000 people registered to one mail forwarding service, a commercial building, where they had voted that same demographic.
They're all in one precinct, had voted, we'll just say about 55 to 45 in favor of marijuana in 2020.
And it was reversed 55 to 45.
And it was a little bit different statistics, but very close against marijuana this year, four years later.
So it's the same, supposedly same people.
Very much departed from the way they voted in 2020 and rejected it soundly this year.
So that is a kind of a strange anomaly in the data.
And then I think if I remember right, it was around 15 to 1700 less votes in that one precinct as well.
So eyes on the fraud.
And when they know that you're watching every move, and I think it's a deterrent from those committing the fraud.
And I do believe that it did have an impact, especially in our primary and now in the general.
And we can see that across the country, it had an effect everywhere.
So kudos to the grassroots who have endured so much abuse.
We've sacrificed so much of our four years of our lives, our livelihoods, relationships, our finances, and everything to be slandered and maligned and called crazy conspiracy theorists.
And when you see that beautiful graph, Rick, I don't know if you've shown it before after the election here, but the regular votes and then the 20 million extra votes and then it drops off again in 2024.
I mean, the numbers don't lie.
And so I think that just kind of proves to everyone.
You could just, you know, you said you were crazy for four years and here we are.
The numbers don't lie.
So it's kind of what you say.
It is.
And actually, I was asked.
So as, you know, my political science background, science, I'm the computer side.
So what do I think happened?
So I said, okay, there's four options.
And so I texted this off to a friend of mine.
Well, remember, number one, she's a terrible candidate.
Number two, maybe they all died of COVID or the shot.
Three, they obviously cheated in 2020.
Or four, the Democrats are actually sexist and racist and actually prefer the old white guy.
So those are the only four options that are palatable from a political science perspective.
So it is up to the media.
Go ahead, prove me wrong.
Which one is it?
Because the Democrats are going to have to accept responsibility for one of those four to be true or all four of them.
I'm going with all four of them.
So is the way that I'm going.
So Laura, I think we've got you now connected from South Carolina.
You also had some kind of interesting things that happened within your state in this election as well.
And so both states are somewhat connected because the reality is we tried to have transparency in our elections in both of our states that are quote unquote Republican states.
And we failed collectively at trying to get cast vote records.
And so South Dakota, their Secretary of State, orders ESNS to turn them off.
Luckily, we have a couple of auditors that are like, no, we're going to keep them on.
And South Carolina, they actually sign affidavits saying, oh, we don't have them.
But then they lied because we know your state uses something called clear ballot to actually reassess those cast vote records and ballot images.
So it was just phenomenal that we see the spectrum of fraud regarding the election officials themselves.
So how were your elections?
What are some of the positives out of South Carolina so far?
Yeah, I mean, I think the key with South Carolina is most of our elections, the real gritty part of it and most of the major decisions are made in the primaries.
And it's sad because we really didn't have a huge turnout in our primaries.
You only had about 13% turnout.
So the general elections are just not as exciting because actually a lot of our people ran unopposed, oddly enough.
But we still have some of the issues that other states are experiencing, like the flipping of votes, the glitching, the poor calibration, the poor logic and accuracy testing, the ridiculous handcount audits.
It's all the same stuff that we see over and over again.
But I guess, and I agree with what Jessica said, you know, our grassroots advocates have been working so hard.
And we've really exhausted funds and time and energy and emotion.
And at this point, it's time.
Okay.
It's time to fix elections.
And the best time to challenge elections are after a win.
It's after a win.
So we know that there were issues.
First of all, Trump's got a mandate.
He won, but there are issues in Arizona.
We know there are issues in Wisconsin.
We know there are issues in Pennsylvania is looking pretty squirrely too with that race.
And so I think Nevada as well.
I think it's time.
You know, Trump put out the call.
If there's any problems, if there's any kind of malfeasance, if there's any kind of criminal activity, he's going to prosecute and these people will be held to account.
Rick, I think it's now time for us to push, push, push for us to uncover not just 24, but 2020, 2022, and 2024 and adopt the gold standard for elections that we can massively change, revitalize, re-engineer our elections.
And we can do that.
I know that you guys are working on it.
I'm working on it.
But we're going to need Trump from the top down to really say, hey, I want this to happen at the state level because we know that elections are, they're administered, they're regulated, and they're conducted by the individual states.
They're responsible for elections.
Now, we can advocate for the federal elections, the federal part of it, which is HAVA law, Help America Vote Act, National Voter Registration Act, those types of laws, they need to go.
So that's what Trump can do at the federal level.
But at the state level, I think grassroots people like us, we need to number one, make sure they're auditing these elections and all the fraud, all of that is looked at and evaluated.
And then we need to actually create the gold standard going forward.
And Elon Trump, you listening?
Make sure you endorse that.
Make sure that you're top down putting the pressure on the states and we will work from the bottom up, making sure our states are motivated to pass one day of voting on a paper ballot.
Maybe that's a national holiday or state holiday.
Vote at the precinct, cast where counted.
I don't have to tell you guys.
I'm preaching to the choir there, but that's what I feel.
You're exactly right.
And I want to show this slide.
And because you laid the case out perfectly, it's like you read my mind.
And the reality is, here are the federal reforms we need to have.
Let's just be real clear.
We need to repeal the Help America Vote Act.
We need to repeal the National Voter Registration Act.
We need to repeal the Uniform and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act.
And we need to get back to the states actually managing the elections the way that they are supposed to, because these are supposed to be 50 states of the laboratory of our quote unquote republic, not democracy.
So that way we can see what is the best practices out there.
Because the reality is when we have this top down, as you basically stated, this has been an abjunct failure.
The reality, the 1993 Motor Voter Bill has absolutely failed us because now we have states like Minnesota, for example, and so many other states that are allowing illegals to then get driver's licenses.
And we saw this during the election that many states had to go back and purge their voter rolls because of the motor voter bill.
Then the Help America Vote Act has no oversight whatsoever.
And the reality is that the machines are.
Well, let me just put it for the viewers at home and the guy in the back, they're crap.
Okay.
If you want to sue me, I will love discovery.
So go ahead and bring me to court.
I will, the very fact that you all have been negligent in not having systems updated, and my freaking state just had five years out-of-date antivirus run in four of the counties.
I'm pissed.
And I actually brought that up at the State Board of Elections, and we failed.
And the fact that you two leading ladies over here brought cases to your states regarding the cast vote records, and all of the attorneys uniformly who were class act, I mean, these were great attorneys.
And to basically get to know them and work with them over the last couple of years, it was disheartening to hear from them.
These were former legislators, good lawyers, experienced in your state, especially South Carolina.
You had several attorneys.
And to hear from them that they looked at the law, they looked at the Help America Vote Act.
They looked at the standards and they said, I can't believe this.
This is a travesty.
So the judges have absolutely failed us.
And now it's time for us to step up again and go back to the legislatures because that's where the Constitution tells us that our elections are supposed to be controlled.
And we need to basically go to them and say, let's get the control.
So Donald J. Trump, we need you to call this out.
And we need you to be a leader to get rid of these three.
Mike Lindell, we need you to be a leader to say, we are done at the federal level.
The states have to pick this up directly.
We need Elon Musk to keep the pressure out there that we have to get rid of these machines because the reality is we studied this in South Dakota.
We've studied this in South Carolina.
Your state failed the logic and accuracy test.
We had even a member of the state board of elections in South Dakota fail the logic and accuracy test and had to redo it.
I mean, it's just like she literally voted for the new rules and she couldn't even do it herself.
I mean, that's just absolutely disgusting.
And so it's too complicated.
It is too hard.
You know that.
And the system's designed to fail in a way because it is so complicated.
And think about it.
The Hava Act was the machines were supposed to be error-free.
The machines were supposed to make it so that we didn't count votes for a week or a month like we did with Bush VCOR, right?
But what are we doing?
We're counting votes for a week plus.
The National Voter Registration Act was supposed to make it so that we were cleaning our voter rolls and that we were making it easy for people to register, but also clean the rolls.
What has it done?
The roles are a mess.
So the very objectives of these laws, there's federal laws that are in place, were not met.
And in fact, they're grossly failing.
Yeah.
And so this is what I agree with you.
I agree with you, Laura, 100%.
I've seen Cleta Mitchell out there this week, even asking, you know, the U.S. Congress, like, you guys have got to fix this because when the federal government got involved in, you know, sovereign state elections, they essentially made elections of the government, by the government, and for the government.
We have, you know, government-certified machines.
We have government funds so the government can tell us how to run our state elections when they take the federal bribes.
And so we need to return to constitutional elections that are of, by, and for the people, run by the people in the precinct under their purview, and that they all agree that these results are correct.
And so Trump may have won, and, you know, the term too big to rig was used.
And he might be the only candidate in history that could actually run a campaign too big to rig.
But we cannot continue operating elections trying to out cheat or out ballot harvest or out whatever each other.
They just should be, you know, one person, one vote, fairly counted, and the will of the people is done.
And so we're hoping that this legislative session, the people will finally be heard.
Because Laura, I don't know if you heard that South Dakota, you know, ousted a bunch of rhinos in the primary.
And then we just rejected all those California style ballot initiatives.
And now the leadership elections in the legislature were just held.
And all of the, you know, Democrats and Republican clothing were ousted.
And now Patriots have assumed all of those leadership positions.
So the leadership then assigns the committees and they route the bills through the committees.
And so we have, Rick and I have testified in a very hostile environment for the past three years, being called communists, lunatics, fanatics, you know, a strange bunch of people with a fetish, all kinds of things by our Republican leadership.
And so this year we're really looking forward to, you know, testifying in a less hostile environment.
And if there ever was an opportunity to get something done in South Dakota, now is the time.
And Rick, you were just talking about your strategy.
We're going for broke now.
We're not going to wait until next year.
We're going for broke right now.
And, you know, we'll see what we come up with.
But that's kind of the intent.
If we have an opportunity, we have to take it.
There's no waiting for later.
And Jessica, you're absolutely right.
And so, Laura, Beth, and of course, Jessica in the background, and then Hava, we developed the white paper for the election gold standards, which is available at uscase.org.
But we're going to expand on that with your help and also you out in the public.
We want you to send tips over to tips at midwestwampwatch.com and also at info at uscase.org on some election reforms that you would like to have.
In the next couple of weeks, we'll announce a meeting that we will have online so we can kind of start talking the strategy nationwide of where we want to go.
Now, of course, we're already looking at the top two states to go in and start bringing election reforms.
We are targeting Wyoming because they have such a short legislative session in January.
And it looks like there is a House leader that is about to be selected that was damaged in these elections.
And so he has awareness of what the risks are.
And we have a Secretary of State that has collected a bunch of evidence in Wyoming as well and a bunch of attorneys that are his friends and also in his office and outside of his office that are uniquely aware along with the Wyoming GOP that has taken action.
So then we look at my own home state of South Dakota.
We are looking at running the table, as Jessica has intimated, of creating what I want to say, the extreme bills.
And here's what I mean by this.
The first bill is let's do everything manually through hand counting at the precinct level.
And because we know that we can do it, we know what the costs are going to be.
It is less expensive and it is definitely more transparent.
And so the key to that is to make sure that we have bipartisan oversight of the entire process.
Now for the naysayers, we're willing to go ahead and create another opportunity, which is, okay, you want to keep the machines?
Here's the deal.
If you're going to keep the machines, there are a few requirements.
Number one, South Dakota can no longer have vote centers.
Number two, all of the ballots will be inserted by the voters into the precinct tabulators that we don't have right now.
And then all of the election results must be done by midnight if you're going to be using the machines.
None of this extra.
And then right away, because if you truly trust the machines, then we are requiring a 100% post-election audit starting at 8 a.m. the following day.
And so, with those types of models, that's the only way that we can move forward.
Now, of course, people are going to complain and say, well, that's too expensive.
We agree.
So, that's why hand counting should be your first option.
Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, that's basically what we would like to do too in South Carolina.
Obviously, our first option is the paper ballot.
That's the way it should.
The gold standard is exactly what you said.
Cast were counted with people, paper, and pens.
And we can do that.
And it's very inexpensive.
And the second option would be, if you really want those machines, we better have massive accountability, transparency, decent chain of custody.
It's going to be pretty much everything we'd ever want.
But if you're going to keep those machines, you have to let the people know how their vote is counted.
And this whole issue about the secrecy of the ballot, the secrecy of the ballot.
Well, the secrecy of the ballot is about the casting of the ballot.
It is not about the counting.
I know that we run into this problem.
I don't know if you guys do, but we're never allowed to look at any ballots, even during the hand count audits, even during, you know, when absentee ballots come in.
And by the way, these absentee ballots need to be minimized.
This is why we're counting several days after the election.
And that just shouldn't happen.
We have to minimize the amount of mail inbouts because there's very, the chain of custody is awful.
So once again, we need to go to that gold standard.
But if the legislators aren't willing to once again listen to the top-down direction from Trump, who now has a mandate, and they want to keep the darn machines, then they better really create a very transparent situation for the people so that they can get all the audit records they need, the voter rolls, for free.
People deserve to know how their vote was counted.
This garbage about, oh, the secrecy of the ballot, yes, it's secret when you cast it.
I should not know how you voted.
We know the ballots are private.
And here's the other thing.
You're right.
These vote centers are an issue.
They become very crowded.
They commingle precincts.
And we should not be voting.
And I know people go, oh, it's so convenient.
It's great.
We should not be voting for two weeks or one month.
No, no, and no.
That is how fraud occurs.
It's a gateway for fraud.
And even Trump said, I want you to vote early at just this one time.
And I know, you know, you've got a great metaphor for this, Rick, about, you know, New Year's.
Yeah.
So, and the reality is, I don't know about the rest of America, but, you know, all of us here and all the people that I know, New Year's Eve, we all know when that's going to happen.
Nobody celebrates that on a different day.
So why do we treat elections differently when they both are on those bank calendars and they're both in your cell phone and we don't celebrate those on different days?
And so let's get real, America.
Let's actually put an importance on this because, you know, Jessica, you have family members that were in the service and they died and they served for this country.
And for us, when we look at the history of America, have we really become that weak that we can't get our act together and actually just vote in person on Election Day?
Look at the founding of our America and how Washington was there, you know, without shoes, without socks, freezing.
And we can't get our act together to go drive, walk, or to our local precinct and vote on Election Day.
Come on, America.
We can do that.
It should not be as easy as driving through McDonald's, right?
It shouldn't be a fast food type of election.
It's your civic duty and it's a privilege, and people paid for that right for us to do that.
So I think the whole mentality about it needs to change.
I agree with Laura on the 45-day, we have a 45-day absentee voting period, and it is ridiculous.
There's no reason we need 45 days of no excuse absentee voting.
The state used to have excuse only absentee voting.
You know, you're indefinitely confined, you're overseas in the military.
Of course, we need to make accommodations for those people.
But you need to have an excuse.
And if you don't have an excuse, show up on election day and vote in person.
And that is how we honor the service of those who have gone before us, you know, taking this seriously and realizing what a privilege it is.
And I was actually on the absentee board for part of the time in this general election.
And I'll tell you, processing the Yuokava ballots is extremely time consuming and quite a process.
And then all of the absentees processing those is just, they do the same steps as you would in the precinct.
So it is a kind of a slow, painful process.
All the Yuokava ballots need to be recreated.
And in 2024, sorry, Minnehaha County had three times as many ballots as they did in 2020, just the Yuokava.
So that takes a long time.
And people need to recreate those onto the machine-readable ballots.
And as I was looking through this process and, you know, actually participating in it, I kept thinking, you know, people would be voting in the precinct on election day, and we had counting boards in the precinct at the close of the polls.
Everybody would have been home by midnight with results by midnight, and we would not be having to do all of this.
It is insane how long this process is with the testing of the machines and all of the things that go into it.
We can simplify this down into a basic, auditable, transparent, verifiable process that everyone can understand.
And it will save us like 90% of the funds that are expended on this.
So hopefully, I think the people have, again, seen through the lies that they've been told.
And I really hope that people understand this about the elections too.
And getting to participate in this process is actually fun.
Going through the hangout method that you guys developed is actually fun and easy, and anybody can do it.
So I'm really hoping that we have a shot at changing the process in South Dakota again to restore the power inherent in the people, give the power back to the people to conduct their own elections.
And when we come back after a commercial here, why don't we go through kind of some slides that I have that kind of outline getting the election control back to the states?
You've highlighted some of the pieces, but we'll go into separate buckets.
And so after this commercial, we'll get kind of in the checklist of what we're going to require of some of the states.
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Tonight, we are discussing some of the oversight that we need to have in our elections.
And we're going to now be looking at legislation that we are going to be recommending for the entire United States, but at a state level, because we really believe that the federal pieces that are there need to be completely dismantled and given back to the states because that's where our Constitution gives the authority for the states to basically set the time, place, and manner of the elections.
Now, also, as part of this, we still kind of have some unsettled business before we move forward because we know some states are going to want to continue to use Dominion and ESS.
And this is where last night I called for the software audit in basically four areas that we need to go back and review because we've seen some court cases out there that have specifically spoken about the encryption and the randomization of the ballot images and the cast vote records, especially on the Dominion side.
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And it is so important that we lock this in because before we move forward, there's one of two paths.
Some states are going to go completely hand count.
We've already had successful elections just happening here.
I want to say in Arkansas and two of the counties that the people there decided to get rid of the machines and actually go towards hand counting.
And so that is positive.
And so we see the wins are already there.
And Trump was during the whole campaign talking about this on the very elections themselves.
So when we look at getting back to the states, let's kind of look at kind of the menu of options out there.
So when we look at some of the gold standards, the reality is we have to kind of start with that voter registration.
We need to have proof of citizenship.
It could be automatic with vehicle registrations within the state, but the state has to have a difference between legal citizens and people who are not here as citizens, and that must be identified.
And I believe that those registrations have to be in person, not like what we see in South Dakota, where they're not even here.
And then the validation, I think, has to happen every two years or when voting.
And the deadline should be 20 days before the election.
We have to get rid of this same-day voter registration that we see in so many of the states.
And I think there has to be a monthly review of the voter roles, such as the death records, such as the jury pool, such as the national change of address.
And we also, like you stated early, Laura, in order to have proper oversight, the voter rolls have to be at no cost.
And the reality is the public should be able to look at those voter roles and look at their neighbors.
And if they see that a house has been up for sale and they know that those people aren't there anymore, they could have that discussion with their county election official to take action and send a card to actually help validate that.
So just starting there, have we missed anything that needs to be added to the menu of options here?
Jessica, I'll put you first.
Or actually, Laura, go ahead.
Well, because we're in Eric State, so I would say we don't want third parties involved in the voter registration, maintaining the list and the voter registration.
I mean, we actually have another third-party copus, which does maintain our voter rolls with, I guess, the advice of Eric.
And of course, we know Eric costs a bit, but this third party costs about $6 million for a five-year contract.
So what the heck are they doing?
So our voter rolls for that amount of money, we're just aggregating them across all the counties.
But the whole point is, why can't that happen at the county level?
Counties should be, once again, like Jessica said, our election should be local.
The county should be responsible for their registration lists and keeping them clean, getting the data, like you're saying, from the various state agencies and from information from Social Security Master Database, NCOA, other areas.
But that should be internal.
That should be something that we should be able to do among our states and within our states without third-party involvement, because we all know that ERIC mainly focuses on registering the people who are not registered but eligible.
God only knows if they're technically eligible or not.
Right.
So Jessica, what's happening on a BPRO standpoint?
That's the other side of ERIC.
Well, yeah, I would add to that.
We, I think the state statute is running the NCOA every four years.
And I think there's some data then that gets missed in that drop-off point.
So I don't know why we can't run it more than once a year for sure.
It should be maybe quarterly run the NCOA and getting people off because with people moving all over the place, we would catch those in a much more timely manner.
Secondly, the death records.
We're currently checking with the county coroner.
And in 2023, I helped get a bill passed to compare the statewide voter roll with that master death file.
So Security Administration Master Death Index and Master Death file.
And it was written into state law, signed July 2023.
And to my knowledge, the Secretary of State's office has not modified the B Pro contract, can't provide proof of a work order or any modification to the program.
They say they check with the HAVV database, but of course they do when they register a voter.
We're talking about monthly voter roll maintenance that is to be getting all of the deceased individuals off the voter rolls that are missed when the voter does not die in the county in which they're registered.
So all of those are getting missed.
And to my knowledge, the Secretary of State has not done anything to implement that law that was passed in 2023.
So those couple of things would make a big difference.
And with the BPRO situation, I don't know.
We had a statewide voter roll crash on Friday before the election.
They were out for three hours.
I think it went down about 11:30 a.m.
The Secretary of State's office did not send out any communication until 1:18 p.m.
And then it came up, I think, about an hour after that.
So it was not functioning.
Anybody that was in line to early vote in Minnehaha County, where they were using laptops to check people in, could not vote.
So they had a long delay in getting the paper backup.
At least they had a paper backup.
People had to wait, I mean, three hours to vote.
And in Hughes County, the Hughes County auditor actually went on Kellow Land News and stated to the public that he turned 65 voters away because they could not vote.
I believe Hughes County has poll pads and they were dead in the water when the system went down.
So those 65 voters were turned away from voting.
We could have reported that as a crime, I believe.
And then our wonderful South Dakota grown B Pro total vote system, of course, was exported across the country.
And Nevada was having data upload problems.
And another state was having data upload problems.
I can't remember off the top of my head right now which one it was, but there were three states with the total vote system that were not working during this election cycle and is hosted on the Microsoft cloud.
Our Deputy Secretary of State told the news that it was a Microsoft global outage.
So we don't know if other states were affected that we just didn't know about.
And all of our personal identifying information is hosted in the cloud.
So we've been warning about this for a long time.
I've personally written articles about it.
Pennsylvania canceled their statewide contract with the B Pro total vote, and Oregon had to delay because they could not meet the cybersecurity standards required by the state of Oregon.
So it's a faulty system.
And I think it would be in everyone's best interest if we find a solution to this and potentially just ditch B Pro before any more elections are run on this faulty system that literally crashed in the middle of a presidential election cycle.
Yeah, and I would encourage the legislature to actually have hearings about this.
And B Pro and the Secretary of State should be brought forward because I have several clients that use Azure and they had no outages during this time.
And so I really want to see those log files from Microsoft as well as from BPRO for that confirmation because that seems a little suspicious.
I think there's something else that happened and we need to get to the bottom of it.
And that should have never happened.
And the fact that they don't have redundancy across the network speaks volumes.
And this was part of the early questions that we brought up in the state board of elections regarding their security.
And the Secretary of State allowed BPRO to basically create their own self-audit, but we have not seen any reports.
And with this catastrophic failure and voters being turned away, that is never acceptable.
And we need to make sure that we have better processes in place because there were good counties like Minnehaha that you point out that had the paper backup.
And so they were able to make sure that every voter that wanted to vote could vote and did vote.
And same thing in Brookings County, where the county auditor already had the paper backup and they hand-wrote the labels.
And then once the system came back, they checked them in, reprinted the labels, and continued business as normal without disrupting the customer or the voter.
And so there are some auditors that did do a good job.
But the reality is this process wasn't uniform and the buck stops with the Secretary of State since they're the one managing the system.
And that's really disappointing to see.
And so the next slide that I can agree, Rick, I'm sorry.
Just really looking forward to some sort of a hearing on this because we can't just say, you know, let it go.
We can't shove it under the rug.
There has to be answers for this.
So hopefully we can get someone to investigate, Rick.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And so it was really disappointing to kind of see what happened across the United States, and we just can't allow it to go.
You also brought up absentee voting.
And I guess I'm after seeing Jessica kind of sugarcoated the experience of Yukova.
The reality is they had to sit there and break all of this packing tape away from the envelopes and then have three sheets of paper and then manually take the data from the laser printed paper and one by one fill in the ballots so that they could be read by the machines.
What's incredible is that hand counting eliminates that when you don't have to conform to the machine itself.
But absentee voting, I think we have to go in person.
It should be a limited time.
Mail out ballots limited to military overseas, doctor certification, no more mail forwarding.
And I did a little quick research before the show, and there are three states that actually don't offer early voting requiring an eligible reason to vote by mail.
And that's Alabama, Mississippi, and New Hampshire.
So there are a couple states that we could look to that obviously didn't get into trouble with the federal government.
And so this might be an opportunity to go look at what they're doing to see if that would fit within the rest of the 47 states and territories.
And so what are your thoughts, ladies?
Well, Rick, I wanted to quick mention.
So you and I had done a little analysis of the absentee voting in South Dakota.
And in the primary, I think we had, well, I'm just going to guess.
So about 27,000 absentee ballots.
And I think only 3,000 of them-ish were marked by mail.
So all the rest of that absentee voting was done in person.
And then I believe you and I looked over the general election primary, or sorry, general election absentee voting statewide.
And I believe 75% of it was marked in person, around 75%.
So that is a huge difference from 2020, where we had a massive amount of mail-in ballots.
And people who did absentee vote, absentee voted in person, the majority, like 75% in this general election.
So people are getting the message.
So if we can reduce the absentee voting and demand in person, I think there's already an appetite for it.
People seem to be not trusting the mail in South Dakota because it's evident by the statistics that we've seen coming in from this election.
You're absolutely right.
And so I think you did a great job.
I also mentioned on anywhere I went that, look, if you want to vote absentee, vote in person because you have to maintain chain of custody.
And I think I was sounding the alarm on Frank speech every time that I was doing the breaking news when as soon as we found out that drop boxes were set on fire or people were stealing ballots out of combined mailboxes.
And in the unsecured drop boxes, some of those were tampered with and also set ablaze.
The UPS, the USPS box in Arizona that was tampered with and set ablaze.
I think that really sent out the alarm that, look, we have to vote in person and the lines across the United States, Pennsylvania, and so many other great states that had three-hour waiting lines for people to vote early absentee.
And so that was all hands on deck.
And so to see the numbers out of South Dakota at 75% was just absolutely encouraging.
That was good.
So Laura, what happened in your state with absentee balloting?
We have a decent amount, but see, by law, we're limiting the amount of people who are able to request an absentee ballot.
And so we do a little better than most states there.
There aren't just no excuse.
But really, if you say, well, I'm going to be out of the county or I'll be out of the state, you can get away with that.
But that's where I would say people need, if they don't have a really good excuse, like they absolutely have to work that day or they're in the hospital or whatever, they're disabled, they really should, I think, have some sort of a written certification or some sort of proof that they're going to be out.
We really need to minimize the absentee voting.
Like, for example, in South Carolina, anybody 65 and over can vote absentee.
Well, that's a huge swath of the population.
And if you're infirm and you can't stand in line, we have curbside voting.
And so, you know, my whole point is there should be no reason for that rule that if you're 65 or over, it should really be if you're just infirm and you can't, you know, stand in line.
And then you also have curbside too.
So I'm all for minimizing the absentee.
We don't have drop boxes either.
I'm all for minimizing absentee voting.
I think it should be stricter.
In the old days, you actually had to go up and fill out something and, you know, confirm that you weren't going to be there.
It's just, we've made everything so easy that we've watered everything down and the accuracy and verifiability of our vote is in question.
And honestly, why any, if you watch the absentee ballot processing, like Jessica is saying, you would never vote absentee.
And part of the problem is most of our legislators have not done this.
They haven't actually viewed the process because if they did, it would scare them.
I would never trust my ballot to go in the mail, get to central count, and be properly counted.
Perfect.
And on that, let's, on our next show, we'll continue on with additional things to take back control of the elections, including controversial things like abolishing the state board of elections, taking control away from the Secretary of States and doing more automatic things.
And all of the stuff that's nebulous, we want to have codified deadlines and dates and times when things are going to happen.
So that way the voters know by statute what's going to happen and what to expect to get better, proper oversight and some responsibility of the parties themselves.
Thank you, Jessica.
Thank you, Laura.
Keep up the great work out there.
And can't wait to have you back on to talk about the next steps and kind of how we approach the states because we've done it.
We've already seen the worst.
At this point, it can only get better.
Thank you, America.
Stay awesome.
And make sure you are supporting your local patriots and make sure the power of the pen, those clerks and election officials that did a good job, please write them a thank you note.