Hello everybody and welcome to The Great America Show.
It's great to have you with us.
We're now just 69 days out from the 2024 election, and it's arguably one of the most consequential elections of our lifetime, if not the most.
On the Republican side, you have a man with a proven record of success and greatness.
On the Democrat side, you have a candidate who has never received one vote from the American people in a primary.
Plain and simple, she stole the nomination from Joe Biden.
Very democratic of her.
So what can we expect in November?
Will it be the same chaos that ensued in 2020, with 46% of the population voting by mail or absentee, according to Pew Research?
According to that same survey, 67% of Trump voters say they voted in person, while 42% of Biden voters say they voted by mail.
Just 17% of those Biden voters say they voted in person on election day.
All these numbers led to Joe Biden, the most unpopular candidate in history, breaking Obama's record for the most votes ever cast for a U.S.
presidential candidate, just over 81 million.
According to Real Clear Politics Average, Kamala Harris' approval rating currently sits at 41%.
So what can we expect come November?
To take all this up and much more, our guest today is Mike Lindell, a man who has been fighting on the front lines every single day to make sure our elections are safe and secure from fraud.
Mike, it's great to have you with us.
First, I want to begin with, last time I saw you, you had a mustache.
Is this the real Mike Lindell?
Right?
Yeah, that was quite a week last week with the DNC.
What people don't realize, I knew it would get media attention all over the country and world, for that matter, and it did, but it was to get attention for the following day, to get attention for our platform, Frank Speech.
So the following day, we actually filmed Democrats that voted for Biden and now are switching to Donald Trump.
That was the big play, but they took the bait.
They took the bait.
I was in there for five hours in the DNC, and we filmed on Thursday with those Democrats just to make upwards of a hundred, and all the reasons that came out of their mouth why they're switching was just so powerful.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any debate on, you know, who's better for this country and what's better for this country.
Give us a little rundown, if you will, for those of us who didn't follow the DNC, who wanted to keep our sanity.
What went on there?
What did you see?
I saw, you know, a two-second video of you on War Room, where you have some kid coming up to you, trolling you, and then the headlines are all of a sudden, Mike Lindell fights with a 12-year-old kid, because that's, you know... Yeah, yeah, exactly.
They had set up after set up.
They had five cameras.
They came from different angles.
I was on the war room and that kid, he's actually about 18, Harry Sassoon or something.
He's a hired hit man for the, where they hit, you know, attack dog for their social media.
And then later on, it was this, they say the 12 year old kid, he actually came up asking me the question and they just sound bit kind of out of there.
He was saying, well, you don't have any evidence.
You don't have any evidence.
I'm going, well, you know, we're beyond that.
We're going to go to paper ballots, hand-counted.
That's where we need to get to as a country.
Well, then he kept calling me a liar and he go, I go, you know what?
What state are you from?
He said, Georgia.
I said, well, just last week, there was over 250,000 ballot images that are missing from 2020.
And he goes, yeah, where am I supposed to trust you?
And I think he said, I'm just supposed to trust me, bro.
That's what he said.
And so the media picked up on all that, but you gotta, I think people
see through all that garbage.
And like you see, that's not why I was in there.
I was in there for the media attention and to get the word out that we, you
know, there is a lot of hope.
We have a great plan to secure our elections and we're obviously not going to be like 132 countries are that have banned the electronic voting machines in our election coming up.
But I want to tell you about the DNC when I went in there, you know, I had protestors out there that, you know, quit protesting and took, these are the Palestinian protestors, put their stuff down to take pictures with me.
Any of the protestors outside, it was like I would break up a protest, you know?
Well, I get inside the DNC, and I'm telling you, the feeling was a feeling of hopelessness, sadness.
It was just like an angry, angry, you know, people just being angry.
It was like a, Godless?
Very godless.
I mean, it was like, in fact, I got in an argument with one of the reporters in there, and I brought up, I said, you know what, I'm going to pray for you.
And I said, you realize we're in the greatest revival for Jesus Christ ever?
And I get done with them, and this guy comes up, he goes, you know, I've been coming to these for years, I've never heard Jesus mentioned, you know?
You heard President Trump's name mentioned 180 or so times, maybe over 200 after the last time I checked.
Democrats get infatuated on certain things, and you're one of them.
I mean, I think you're probably one of the most fascinating people I know.
You've always got the greatest stories in the world.
Why are these people so obsessed, and by these people I mean the Democrats, the marchers, why are they so obsessed with you?
Why are they so obsessed with President Trump?
What is your issue?
Right.
The biggest fear is, you know, when I was attacked in 2021, when I got the evidence on January 9th, and I never let up the gas.
I was just all about getting the word out, getting the word out.
And if I didn't have those, those, the left attacking me, I wouldn't be able to get the word out.
That's why I formed FrankSpeech.com.
That's why I made the network, Frank Speech Broadcast Network.
Well, I knew we had lost the Fox Newses, the Newsmax, the Salem Media.
They're not going to talk about any hope we have with our elections whatsoever.
And when I announced last August a plan to secure our elections, man, they turned up the heat, attacking my pillow and me.
It's now the highest it's ever been, everybody.
My pillow just keeps getting attacked and decimated every day.
But just last week, Before the DNC, the Attorney General, Keith Ellison of the state of Minnesota, probably because I was out there telling everybody Tim Walz is really like, you Google evil.
You're a governor, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
But they've attacked, Keith Ellison now has come after my Lindale Recovery Network for addicts, my foundation, my outreach program, just all in this, stacks like this.
The lawyers say to me, well, we got to do all this discovery and stuff.
I said, you know what?
We're going to get outside counts.
I said, no, you two are going to handle it.
And I said, just this stuff, you know, I'm not going to be distracted by it.
I've done nothing wrong.
Take care of it.
But this is what they've done.
They fear me because I want to get rid of their tool that's used to steal elections.
And that is electronic voting machines.
132 countries have banned them, and we just had one recently, it was a year ago, that was the most recent one that banned them was Argentina.
And one judge made a ruling, let's get rid of these things, they're bad!
And boom, paper ballots within four months at hand counting.
When you see, John, when you see things like Virginia get out last week and brag, we're the best election platforms in the country, we have paper ballots!
Well, so does every other state.
I hate to rain on your parade, Virginia, but they're counted by tabulators, computerized tabulators connected to the internet.
That's the difference.
You know, anyone could say, well, we have paper ballots.
It's how they're counted and we can't have these electronic machines.
So we have a great plan, you know, and that's why they're, that's why they're coming after me.
They don't like the plan I have.
I know that when I announced to tell everyone to secure your ballot, get your mail-in ballot, Don't open it.
Everybody's got to do this.
Get your mail-in ballot.
Do not open it.
When you go to vote on election day and they say you've already voted, you say, no, I have not.
And now it becomes identity theft.
We're going to have in all 50 states and all 3,143 counties examples of that.
I would hope if you're a Democrat or Republican, either one, that you're just a person in a county and you hear one of your friends or family that they told them they already voted and they had that.
You're going to want to take action yourself and say, hey, we've got to get rid of these things.
I was talking with my mother the other day, and they're New Yorkers, and she had said, well, what difference does it make if I go out and vote?
We live in New York.
Trump can never win New York.
And I say, it's the mentality like that that sets people off.
It's the reason he can't win New York.
I worked in politics for a long time before I got into journalism.
And our rule of thumb was, for every one person you go out and vote, you go pick up three to five of your friends.
And when you come in masses like that, Mike, that's when you beat them at the ballot box.
In 2020, it was abnormal.
Like I said, we had 40-something percent of people voting by mail.
That's not going to be this election.
I think even these states where you've got rhinos like Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger down in Georgia and Glenn Young in Virginia, I think these states have started to tighten up a little bit, and there's pressure now, I think, from the RNC.
Laura Trump did an interview on Fox Business the other day.
She says that the RNC has now recruited 165,000 volunteers as poll watchers.
500 lawyers will be on the ground in every battleground state on election night.
They are having a problem in Michigan, go figure, no less.
700 poll workers, Republican poll workers, Republican poll workers went for jobs in Wayne County, which is Detroit.
Only 50 of them were selected.
2,300 Democrats.
When you have things like that happen, how do you possibly fight against the potential of fraud?
Well, that's what I just told you.
That's why we have to secure the mail-in ballots.
You got, you got to remember, by the way, the first thing you said, I live in Minnesota.
We haven't been, we've been blue since 1972.
Okay.
We, uh, uh, in the last election, Donald Trump actually won in 16 and 2020, according to the, uh, cast vote records and the records we have out there with our elections.
Now I want to say this, how do you combat that is you secure that belt.
We have when she's when Laura says yeah there's lawyers on the ground and everything.
We also have stuff we put in place especially in Michigan.
You know you can't see what goes on inside these machines but what we need is a gateway
to get in there that we didn't have before.
We were blocked at every level in the 2020 election.
No judge ruled up based on merit.
We couldn't get, we certainly couldn't open up these voting machines because it's, you know, are you kidding?
It's proprietary technology.
Now we have legal things put into place where we're going to be able to do that if they do these things, which we know they're going to do.
You know, Michigan, they got, so many things got put in illegally in Michigan By the Secretary of State and the Governor, where legislatures make the laws, not those guys.
And they stuck in things like, hey, let's sprinkle six million.
Every person in Michigan, sprinkle out these red voter registration ballots all over Michigan.
These things, all these things have been looked at in every single state.
We've set up the best things we can based on the footprint we have.
So I encourage everybody to go to LyndalePlan.com and check out your state, see what you can do.
And get involved.
But it's preventative.
We're very proactive, being proactive, getting ready for this election, where because just having poll watchers, you also need a gateway.
You can't see what goes on inside these voting machines.
And then you have the dirty voter roll.
And you threw out that statistic that 43% or whatever has voted for Biden with all these mail-in.
Remember, that number's a lot lower It's a lot lower if they're real votes.
Right.
Okay.
And it's not everybody's getting a mail-in ballot.
That's right.
And I want to say this to everybody.
They asked me, I just did three speaking events, one in Alabama, Colorado, Chicago, all back to back to back.
And every one of my siblings said, Mike, what's going to happen in this election?
He said, well, for the first place, they've got to steal an extra 10 million votes.
I mean, you got Biden getting $82 million, that they say that's a joke.
He really got about $67 million, and Donald Trump got the actual $82 million.
So they're going to steal this, and the deviations are going to be huge.
What I want everybody to do, pay attention to the real polls out there, like Rasmussen.
Telfinger, these polls, if you watch Fox polls or ABC, you watch these, they're lying.
These polls are saying, Pennsylvania's a dead heat between Kamala and Trump.
These are lying.
They have to brainwash you so that you think that this could be possible.
I mean, it's beyond repair.
If we don't win in November, I don't think there'll be a country here.
heat in Pennsylvania, the voters are just plain stupid because what Joe Biden and Kamala
Harris have done to this country, I mean, it's beyond repair.
If we don't win in November, I don't think there'll be a country here.
We're going to take a quick break here.
And do you know that when people seen all these deviations and stuff that happened in
the 2020 election, they brush them off each time saying, well, that could have happened.
Well, here's things that weren't looked at that are impossible.
Pennsylvania had more votes than voters, everybody, and they turned in their electors.
That's illegal.
That was Texas versus Pennsylvania, and they threw it out for no standing.
I mean, give me a break.
They turn in their electors, more votes than voters.
That's going to happen everywhere if they have to get these, because they're going to have to use illegal names, they're going to have to use people that are deceased, people that don't live there, and not just in Pennsylvania, other places.
You're going to see things like you see in Michigan, 106,000 votes came down in the middle of the night for Biden on November 4th.
3,000 for Donald Trump.
What did the media tell us?
Fox News says, you know what, those darn mail-in votes for those inner city and all this stuff and the blacks and Hispanics.
No, the mail-in votes in Michigan were counted on the morning of the 3rd, not in the middle of the night on the 4th.
Well, this time around, maybe somebody would ask, hey, Explain yourself.
It's just like if I was going to give the whole country China virus 2.0, no one would tolerate all the garbage we did with that virus.
Like in Minnesota where Tim Walz made us eat out in Snowbanks instead of inside the restaurant.
Or he made us only have 10 people in our house for Thanksgiving.
Or the neighbors could turn you in.
If you had more than 10, they'd turn you in and you'd spend 90 days in jail.
He gave us two extra for Christmas.
These are the nonsense that went on.
No one would tolerate it.
But in the same way with election crime 2.0.
No one's going to tolerate this stuff.
So if I was their marketer, I would have a very hard time even marketing like Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh.
Well, I'm sorry, I'm going to fix everything that we wrecked in three and a half years.
I mean, how do you fix, how do you market them?
It's crazy.
Like when I was at the DNC, I'm going, I'm asking people inside there, I go, if you were their marketer, how would you market Kamala Harris?
You're going to, you can't, they They can't bash Trump anymore.
They can't bash him because he has proof of concept.
You go to December of 2019, you have proof of concept.
So how do you market something like that?
How do you market a stolen election again if they do the same stuff?
No one, judges, everyone's going to call them out and say, we're going to open up these machines, we're going to open up these elections, and we want to see what happens.
The best scenario for me is Donald Trump.
Everybody's got to get out and vote, by the way.
You said it right.
We've got to overrun these algorithms.
Donald Trump needs to win.
He has said straight out, Mike, he's told the country, he said, we've got to go to paper ballots, hand counting, same-day voting.
In order for him to do that, we want this election question regardless, so we can open up and see, hey, wouldn't you want to see if you're running a race in the Indianapolis 500, wouldn't you want to make sure all the cars are running if everyone says they had the engines or something wrong?
Wouldn't you want to make sure that you look into it, or recall them, or look at these things?
This is what's going to happen.
Mike, I want to take a quick break here.
When we come back, I want to talk about the differences that we're seeing now in this 2024 race that we saw in 2020 or we didn't see.
I also want to take up Merrick Garland holding a press conference over the weekend, threatening anybody who dare challenge the 2024 election.
You're going to talk, you're going to want to hear this.
It's coming right back.
We're back.
We're talking with Mike Lindell.
And Mike, right before we went to break, we were talking about the differences between 2024 and 2020.
What do you see as you're out there on the ground each and every day speaking to all these people preparation-wise that's better now in 2024?
Because, I mean, I see it everywhere that people are engaged.
People understand what happened in 2020.
And we've had four years now to prepare.
So there's no excuse.
If the Republicans blow this election the same way it was blown in 2020, You know...
They're done.
That's it.
It won't be.
I, you know, I have, uh, I have like my cause of America and we just, uh, partnered up with, uh, true to vote.
And, uh, but we have all these, we're like a hub of wheel goes out to over 300,000 people.
We're in all every County in the United States.
We have stuff in play.
Uh, like I said, go to Lindale plan.com.
Everybody get there, get that Frank social app too.
You're going to need that.
Just, I think everybody's getting, getting gonna get involved and.
And over the last three and a half years, everything we've learned has prepared us for now.
Okay.
Right.
You know, and, uh, prepared us for now.
I've said it before, if 2020 hadn't happened, we'd have lost our country forever because we've learned so much over the last three and a half years.
We've learned where the unit party, learned where the bad guys are like Brad Rassenberger and Robin Vassa, Wisconsin, and these, these blockers that we've had.
Remember everybody, I've been blocked by more unit party Republicans than anything to get this election secure.
We're in a million times better position than we are now.
But it's because of 2020, you know, of everything we've learned the last three and a half years.
And, you know, if they would have overturned 2020 way back then, we would have lost our country.
I firmly believe that because we had to go through all this and learn all these things in order for this election to happen.
And you know what?
Anything that they try again or do again, this time it will be justice will be done as far as I'm concerned.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
But if it does, Merrick Garland is prepared.
He did a press conference over the weekend where he's threatening anybody who dare challenge the 2024 election or take part in any sort of discourse against the government or question any part of the government, you're going to end up like one of the 1,500, he says 1,500, political prisoners from January 6th.
I mean, how is that America, Mike?
That's something you don't even see in Venezuela.
No, it's not.
Well, you do see it down in Venezuela.
Of course you do!
I've talked to Venezuela underground.
I've talked to them many, many times over the last three and a half years, and that's what it would become here.
You know, when you get to a Nazi Germany where you can turn people, like Waltz did in Minnesota.
You're going to be turned in, and you're going to do 90 days in jail because you have too many of your family members in your house.
What he's suggesting there, this should just get people so fired up and upset.
You know, remember when they took my phone at a Hardee's restaurant, I told that FBI, I want to go to the January 6th committee.
I want to reveal it.
I want to go to jail.
I wanted to get the word out.
So you think that him threatening me with going to jail is going to stop my big mouth?
It ain't happening.
It's not happening.
This country needs to get to paper ballots, hand counting.
Over 100 countries, by the way, have banned early voting and mail-in voting.
132 countries have banned computers in elections.
We have the worst election platforms in history.
You know, the worst, and so for him to threaten that, you know, but that's the narrative.
They'll go out to people.
What he's trying to do, you know, get the masses to just stay meek and kill their voices and stop them from even speaking out and say, hey, there's a problem here.
We need to fix it.
That would be just like Brazil.
What happened in Brazil, everybody, two years ago when my good friend President Bolsonaro, when they sold his election with Lula fresh out of prison, they did the same thing there.
If you spoke out about the election, they put you in jail.
Right.
Well, I mean, we're not far behind, you know.
I think I would argue with you that even in some cases we're worse.
You have people, I spoke to a J6 political prisoner the other day, he reached out to me from jail, that he's still in jail, years with no trial.
How is that American?
That is bizarre!
How do we not have Democrats speaking out against it?
it. Yeah, you would think, well it's funny how they, you know, they even quiet when they,
Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, they were against electronic voting machines and she even named
them and she never, and she never got sued. Amy never got sued. I got sued for billions.
I think they were both in the movie Kill Chain, weren't they?
Yeah, they were all in the movie Kill Chain, everybody.
That was at the DNC, and they're going, oh, they weren't against the machines.
I go, go watch the movie.
In 2019, every Democrat says, we got to get rid of these machines.
They've been saying it for two decades.
But you see all those, what a shame the times we're in, when you're not even at trial.
And I'm going to tell you, John, this actually happened to me in one of my cases, not as bad as sitting in prison for three and a half years.
I might, one of my cases, it's the one in Colorado, Eric Coomer, he sued me.
I didn't even know who this guy was.
Seriously, didn't know who he was.
It's the most frivolous case in history.
By the time I seen that was nine months.
After nine months, I hadn't even opened up and looked at the case.
Cause I got so many lawsuits over here.
I opened it up.
I go, I don't even know this guy.
This is crazy.
Why didn't we put in for a dismissal?
Now, my lawyer said we did put in for a dismissal.
That was in the summer of 22.
So almost a year later, the judge did not rule on the dismissal.
She let, we're just going to go to discovery and stuff.
I got so mad at that judge.
This is when I told off the lawyer in the room.
We all know about that.
And then the judge said, she goes, he goes, Mike, you know, a judge is going to see this.
I said, I got a big problem with Judge Wang too.
Her name is Wang in Colorado.
You either make a decision, you don't ruin our country, and that's why you have dismissals, that you can apply for a dismissal, because what if you weren't even there?
Complete identity.
It's the wrong person, right?
Mike, it's all part of the plan.
It's all part of the plan.
For anyone who's never been involved in a lawsuit, discovery costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in some cases.
And if that judge, if everybody did what that judge did, you'd ruin our country.
People that didn't have money to fight it would go broke.
They'd be guilty of everything, and you'd throw them in jail, throw them in prison.
So what I did, I said, Wang, Judge Wang, you make a decision.
I got on my show and ripped into that Colorado judge, and my lawyers were going, oh, don't do that, don't do that.
I said, I don't care.
I said, Judge Wang, you make a decision, and she did.
She ruled against me, but at least she made a ruling.
Okay?
At least she made a ruling.
Right now, she's sitting on my summary judgment for almost a half a year, but at least I don't have more discovery going on, you know what I mean?
I mean, it's disgusting, you guys.
And if people don't make stands and just get run over by this, it's, it's, uh, this is where we're at.
We'll be the worst country in the world, and it's over.
It's, uh, it's, you know.
People don't realize the damage it does to people, and just because you have money doesn't mean it's right.
I mean, I watched all your depositions, and it made me respect you even more, because for anybody who's never met Mike, Mike is the same person on camera that he is in person.
I mean, there's no difference in the guy.
Lou used to always call me when he'd get off the phone with Mike, and he'd say, man, that Mike Lindell is crazier than hell.
And Lou admired you, Mike.
He really adored you.
Oh, I miss Lou.
We all do.
We all do.
But, you know, just the direction America is moving in, this lawfare, these corrupt judges, it's happening now over in Europe.
You have the CEO of Telegram getting off a flight and getting arrested for lack of moderation.
I mean, you own Frank Speech, Mike.
You're very involved in your companies.
Is that what's coming to America?
Isn't that something?
So what did they arrest him for?
Because he... Lack of moderation for not moderating his app, Telegram.
Unreal.
I mean, where's our free speech going to?
This is Nazi Germany, people.
This is Nazi Germany.
It's like, you're going to tell me what I can do with my own voice?
It's unbelievable, but yet nobody said anything when old Jack Dorsey was over there with Twitter, censoring everybody, putting false things.
You don't see that anymore.
I was just with the Facebook fact checker, Alan Duke, and I go, Alan, you don't cover any of my stuff up anymore because you figured it was all true and you don't cover anymore.
But boy, back then when it did the most damage, when they covered everything up back then, which turns out, like I say, to be a blessing because if it would have overturned it back then, We wouldn't have found everything out that we needed to find out over three and a half years, but you got him and Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook and the things that they're doing controlling it that way, but then you're going to go after other people's, other platforms and other voices.
Remember, John, I want to say this to everyone.
We started winning everybody on January, the morning of January 9th.
On January 7th and 8th of 2021, 1.2 million Americans were de-platformed.
Parler was wiped off the face of the planet, the platform Parler.
And then you had, like our president lost 100 million, our great real president people on Twitter.
That was the day they tried to kill our voice forever, but it didn't happen.
All these things spun up.
The podcasters around the world spoke up, started speaking out.
You had platforms like PrankSpeech, PrankSocial, TrueSocial, GetterGab, Telegram.
All these things spun up so you get your information from other places now instead of CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC.
And for anyone who hasn't seen TV ratings lately, I've followed them.
I was with Louis at Fox News for years.
TV ratings, I want to say around the time that Louis canceled from Fox Business, have been in the drain.
People are tuning them out.
You look at some people.
I saw a statistic today.
Megyn Kelly's podcast is outperforming, I think it was CBS and ABC's total viewership combined.
That's embarrassing, Mike.
You have these media conglomerates that are spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year going up against anybody can do a podcast, Mike.
You get a camera and a microphone and if you're good, people will like it, people will tune in.
I mean, Joe Rogan started out and he had money, but he started out from nothing.
All these people started out from nothing.
Well, that's what scared me.
When the media didn't quit attacking me, I'm going, wow, I can have all this information And if I don't get attacked and these outlets won't have me on anymore, and I have this big platform of notoriety, that was the birth of Frank's Speech.
That's where I went on.
I said, I got to build my own platform that they can't cancel.
So I bought my own servers.
I put $10 million into it and said, here, that was just to be the most secure platform, just so I could keep talking.
And, uh, you know, if they wanted to suppress any of you, and just like the DNC, that's why I had to do the no mustache thing.
Cause they wouldn't, they wouldn't have talked to me there.
They would have just said, you know, the media would have said, they've learned that I use them against themselves.
That's how I get the word out.
I go out to get attacked.
So they, cause they're so dumb in that way.
They're going, let's go after Mike.
And some of them don't become such good friends, John, that I have to tell him, Hey, you've got to bash me more in your article or your boss.
Isn't going to print it or you're not going to.
And they do, they got that Mike Lindell, that Trump-loving blah blah blah, you know?
You know, the sad part, the funny part about it, old Mike, is you're only half kidding.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, it's truly sad, Mike.
When you have a vice president who's now the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party, who hasn't sat for a formal interview in 37 days, she's now asked for the debate to be seeded with nos.
I mean, it doesn't really get much more pathetic than that.
Your final thoughts as we wrap up here, Mike?
Yeah, I think everybody, Drista, you really got to watch the polling, get involved, go to LyndalePlan.com.
I'm telling you, this is the one time in history, too, you should easily be able to go out like I did, talk to everybody you know, and to talk about our great, real President Donald Trump.
Bring him back to December 19th and ask him how their lives were then, and say, how do you like this now, what's going on now?
And if you bring him back, it should be the easiest time in history to go out and campaign and recruit people and argue with people that are on the left.
Obviously the extreme ones out there, but remember, I believe this country is about 70% red and I believe you can easily go, the nonsensical things going on actually help us even more than refreshing their memory about Donald Trump.
You got transgenders running around the bathrooms.
I went to the DNC and it was all general, all general.
Gender bathrooms.
I'm going, are you kidding me?
But I had to go and went in there and I'm going, you gotta be kidding me.
This is bizarre.
What is the world come to?
Mike, I've got, I've got a new take on that and which I've been telling everyone and it's going to piss people off a lot.
There's no such thing as transgender.
It doesn't exist.
It's not possible.
You're born a male, you're born a female.
That's it.
That's it.
No, that is it.
That's the way God made it.
That's the way it is.
It's the easiest argument, Mike.
It's the easiest argument.
Absolutely.
It's truly sad what we've come to, Mike, but hopefully with God's grace in November, we right this ship and Donald Trump prevails.
That's absolutely right, everybody.
Keep the faith.
God's given us grace for such a time as this, where everybody's got a calling out there.
Do your part, everybody.
And when we get to the great place we're going, we're going to look back and say it was all on God's timing, and even the bad things had to happen just the way they did, because God uses all things for good.
So God bless.
Thanks for having me on, John.
Mike, you're a great American.
And we all do.
Thanks for being with us, Mike.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.
Please be sure to join us back.
If you're tuning in, everybody, what we have here, we have an audience of Democrats.
They voted Democrat.
They're tired of it.
And now they're going to be voting for Donald Trump.
And we're going through and we're finding out why.
We want to show everyone, I think it's the biggest thing, is to get the word out that there is a better answer instead of the same old, same old, same old.
What's your name?
Ryan.
Okay, I'm going to ask you, so did you used to vote Democrat?
Yeah, I've been a Democrat most of all my life.
When did you decide?
Is it this year?
This year.
This year you decided to switch?
Yeah, switch over.
And why?
Well, the reason why is because what we got now is not working.
Okay?
All this violence and and crime that's going around the world, in the whole city.
It's not safe for anybody to be out here, OK?
And especially blacks, you know, not trying to isolate anybody.
So you're saying the same input, if you get the same input, and you're always getting the same output, you've got to change the input, right?
Yeah, the same results.
If you're getting the same result, quit digging.
Over and over and over.
People are saying it's supposed to be a change, and now they get on TV.
Do you feel like you were lied to?
Over to you.
disappointed. Disappointed, disappointed. Well that's and what would you say to
people that are out there that still aren't where you got to you know where
you finally got to and you say did it take this administration which is to me
is so far out there that they they don't even like we're coming up to election
they're not even lowering the price of gas and make it make it lies to the
people.
They're not even saying, hey, we're going to do this for you.
We're going to do this for you.
And I've said it before, I believe what's going on now.
You know, we all had December of 2019 where it manifests.
It was, wow, there is a different way that, you know, things can help.
But then now, the last three and a half years, I've told people, and see if you agree, do you agree that the bad things, I mean, the things, you know, the illegals coming up, all this stuff going on, the high price of gas, it's like, do you think that's opening people's eyes more than ever?
Yeah, because we're being brainwashed.
We've been let down through these crooked politicians that try to sell us a bill of goods.
In other words, they're just making campaign promises.
They're not delivering on anything.
Do you guys agree out there?
And it hurts me to see that our youth of this country is falling in trap, being entrapped into this society, which is no good for anybody.
Do you know what I see?
You bring up a good point, our youth.
You know, you have brainwashed and brainwashed and brainwashed.
You know, this goes back a long time, but if the youth coming up now, if they don't know any different, it's going to be very hard to change their, out of their, um, when we had the first, the first guest, when he was saying, you know, you get, you get used to their environment, like an abuser, you know, over and over again.
I think that was real, real important when he said, but, but, um, I think, um, Do you think?
Now you've seen what Donald Trump did to build up that.
Did you see improvement during his time?
Did you see anything?
Or how did you even hear about it?
Because the news tried to keep it down.
Yeah, back in 2016, things were much better.
Much, much better.
Yeah, okay. These were much better. No much much better, right? You know, I was an option
I was in the working class that I'm retired. Yeah. Yeah, and I felt it
Yeah, I felt all the way through his administration to December of 2019 you guys say everyone
I don't care where you started from I've been in the streets and if you and but when you got to December of
2019 I and you if you're in the streets or you're eating with four forks
Everybody's lives have been lifted at least with the economy the highest consumer confidence in history
and I think people remember that because then the door just got slammed like
Here's a glimpse of hope.
Bam!
Sorry.
And that's what they're trying to destroy right now.
They're trying to destroy the American dream.
I've lived the American dream.
It is real, everybody.
I was a crack cocaine addict in the streets, and here to come out of that by the grace of almighty God?
And to come out of that, you still couldn't do it anywhere else in the world, probably other than here, from where I came from.
But we can't lose that dream.
And I believe we get one shot at this to get, you know, I'm all about securing our elections.
And I'll tell you one thing, I want to ask you that.
If you, with the elections, you know, people, you know, people say, well, these guys, these politicians, these are doing all a terrible job.
These, you know, the Democrats, whatever.
But if you don't secure our election platforms and secure them, then you've got a bigger problem.
Right.
So, you know, we're here to fix two things, but today I want to really concentrate on hearing from you all, so everybody can hear, just like you.
I'm sure you have, I want to ask you this, do you have family members or friends that are still stuck in that thing, and now they're saying to you, what are you thinking?
Yeah, my wife.
Well, that's good.
Come on over.
She's working for Republicans.
But I mean, that's good.
But I mean, as you all, as you all, to all of you, I'm going to ask you too, as we get up here, you know, for me, it was like Um, you know, when I went all in for Donald Trump, you know, I never voted in my life.
I never think politics are important.
And now all of a sudden, you know, I had come up, I was all doing stuff around the country for addiction, speaking in churches and everything and had the MyPillow company going on.
And as soon as I met him, I met him.
I had the opportunity to meet him.
And when I met him, it was for 45 minutes alone.
I'm going, wow, I never met a president before.
I didn't think I could get in the White House with my record, right?
And I meet him, and we talked for 45 minutes, and it was such an amazing problem solution.
But I went and talked to his employees.
From a janitor all the way up, I talked to like maybe 30, 40 of them and asked them about him.
Is this real?
Is this who he is?
And he goes, oh yeah, he's a great boss, great man.
And he said each one of them had a story how he had helped him out individually.
Well, I get back to Minnesota and I did a press release.
And I was the media's darling.
I could walk across the street, they'd say, how many more people are you hiring?
And I gave people second chances, right, I would hire them.
And they'd wait, how many more employees?
You know, made in the USA and hiring people from the inner city and everything and ex-addicts and here.
I did this press release saying I just met Donald Trump, and the media attacked me.
They called me the biggest drug dealer in the Twin Cities, and my drug dealer was sticking up for me.
He didn't sell any drugs.
He tried to free Minneapolis of drugs by doing them all.
And they, but it was a surprise to me.
It's like, well, you know, I couldn't believe that the pushback, you know, from my own.
And to this day, my own family, I have family members.
I have family members that, you know, I said, Hey, I met the man.
I met my board.
Then I met the man.
I know what, you know, let's give it a chance, see what he can do.
Then when he did what he could do, There were still a lot of me, my own company, my own family that would not come over to the Common Sense Party.
I don't call it the Republican Party.
Believe me, I've had more pushback for Uniparty Republican.
But this new party, this new leader that we could have.
And you still couldn't convince them, but over the last three and a half years, the destruction has convinced them.
Well, what I like about you, you weren't in denial.
In other words, you just being yourself.
You came out and said, here I am, this is who I am, this is what I was.
I'm a different person now.
So a lot of people look at Trump like, they don't even know who to trust.
Yeah, they don't know who to trust.
Especially Donald Trump.
They say, no, I like this guy, but I don't know if I want to trust him or not.
But he did come through, you know, he's got proof of concept now.
So I want to, you know, I want to say the, um, you know, what you're saying there, they, like you say, they don't know who to trust.
And you came out and just, I think for all of you to just being here today, to be just transparent and say, this is why I'm switching.
Because people need to hear that out there.
I thank you for that.
I don't know if I can trust this other guy either because he hasn't done nothing.
Especially for the minorities.
For people, the little guys.
You ready to go to the audience and hear from someone out here?
Go ahead and stand up, sir.
Well, it's been a pleasure.
You say you're from Minnesota?
Yeah, Minnesota.
Yeah, I'm from St.
Paul.
So while we get someone up on cue here, introduce yourself.
I'm Bradley.
How are you?
So Bradley, tell us why you're making the change from the Democrat ticket to President Trump.
See, for me, it's been, I'm going to.
This is what I want to do.
And when they get there, nothing is done.
Mr. Trump stated, I'm going to go in here and this is what I'm going to do.
I'm going to build a wall.
Because I want the people that live here to eat first.
I don't need to bring all these immigrants in.
And since this new administration has come to the table, my children are lacking.
My community is lacking.
I see abandoned properties, folks laying on the street, and forgive me, Why do we feed folk when we have folks who went overseas, hung, bled, and died in the service of this country, and they're laying on the streets?
That's unacceptable.
If you can house an immigrant, with all due respect, house my children first.
These are the people that fought for us.
They're laying on the street.
They can't get medical assistance because you've given it to someone else.
They came here illegally.
They closed down schools.
They opened the schools to put migrants in.
You can open a school and put my veterans in there.
You can open a school and put my homeless children in there.
But yet you refuse to feed those that state that they are here.
They've been here.
You've overlooked us.
And I'm not even going to deal with the crime in the city of Chicago.
They can go to Michigan Avenue and find an individual taking a coat out of a store.
But you cannot use those cameras and find that individual that shot that child down there in the alley.
Let's make sense of this!
Make it make sense!
If you got all of this technology, why don't you feed my children and save them?
Amen.
I want to ask you, so did you, when did you switch, when did you stop trusting the Democrats in on that?
Oh, it's been about, it's, it's, it's, I've been, it's not about, and again, it's not about the trust, it's about the leadership that takes command.
Right, right.
When they stand on their word.
Right.
Mr. Trump has said, I'm going.
Amen.
This administration says, I'm going to try.
I don't need you to try to feed my children.
I need you to feed them.
And I want to tell everyone, when you do something, when you see politicians, and thank you, that was awesome, when you see politicians making decisions that don't make sense, like we just talked about the illegals there, what sense does that make?
And it doesn't help any of the people that live here.
And if it doesn't help any people, there's a very evil agenda behind it, and it's a hidden agenda.
And I believe that's what's going on, because it doesn't make sense.
You can't help the people that came here legally, and all the resources are going to the people that came here illegally.
So, you got another question?
My name is Evelyn.
Well, my main reason for the switch would be also the migrant crisis, I would say.
I feel like what they're doing is basically, like, irresponsible, dangerous.
Like, we don't know anything about these people.
They don't have a background, like, in the system or anything.
They're just roaming the streets, driving around, very dangerous.
Like, getting things that people who have been here for their whole life, and like, you know, just homeless people on the streets, and they're in apartments, in cars, have leased cars, have aid, and like, it's like, basically a slap in the face.
I feel like it's, I don't know.
So that's why you're saying that it's a better way to go with Donald Trump because you've... When did you switch over?
When it was because of all the things that went on the last... Yeah, it's like over time you're just watching this literally unfold like over the months.
It's like getting worse.
Like they're starting getting like all this aid and basically, you know, just disregarding the people who have already been here and already in line for the aid.
You mean Americans?
Yes.
Do you see your friends, family, people you know, are they like you that they're starting to see the light too?
Oh yeah, everybody is complaining about it.
Everybody talks about it.
Wow, that's amazing.
So that, you know, that would be one that we're going to try and get the word out.
Because this is, when I came to Chicago two months ago, and I did five events, I went to talk to the Democrats at the Capitol, I went right down the inner city, and that was the thing I heard.
And I told our real president, Donald Trump, that I said, you know what I'm hearing?
I said, they're giving, all the illegals are getting all the resources, you know, even for helping with addiction and everything else.
Driving around getting stuff that we're not helping the people that live here illegally.
How old are you?
I'm 25.
And what is your hope for Chicago?
What do you want to see if Trump takes office?
What do you want to see happen in your community?
Well, in my community, I believe I want to see investments, like investments in, I want to say programs for our youth, investments in, I don't know, I just feel like there should be other programs besides.
In some cities they have a program where you call another number of the police in certain situations and they aid in, like, you know, just, what is the word?
Yeah, they intervene in certain situations and then avoid, you know, just bad situations between CPD and the people in our community.
So, I'm going to ask you, and this is for all of you too, but I'm going to ask you specifically.
We are pretty young, 25, but a lot of you here, you want to know this part too.
I believe it probably didn't take you, you know, even though Donald Trump did real good and our lives improved, I'll bet you it's more of what's going on now.
The bad things have been like here in your face.
Is that more?
I think that's probably may turn more people.
You get a taste of what it could be.
Did you feel that things would improve by December of 2019 with our, with Donald Trump?
Um, December of 2019.
Oh, you weren't paying attention.
I just know I didn't have to work like a few months later.
But I would say I do agree with the first part.
I do agree with the first part.
It's basically the good outweighs the bad.
You're just basically weighing which side can really benefit the community the most at this point.
Right on, right on.
Thank you.
Alright, thanks.
Alright, how you doing?
I'm doing good.
And what's your name?
My name is T.O.
Hardeman.
Right on.
So T.O., you voted for Biden in 2020.
I'm not going to say who I voted for.
I did pull a Democratic ballot in 2020.
I did.
And who are you going to vote for this year?
I'm voting for Donald Trump this year.
So I want to ask a question that I'm going to ask you, but I'm also going to ask the audience.
How many of you have lost a loved one to gun violence?
Wow.
Wow.
How many of you for years have been holding on to hope that something will change with the new, even on the local elections, that some of you bring this new person in that's gonna somehow change and what they're promising you is actually gonna... How many have you been holding on to that for years?
Wow.
How many of you are under the age of 25?
25 or below?
25 or below.
All right.
So the reason why I'm asking that question is because over and over and over again,
but how many of you guys don't even trust being in this room with us?
I'm sorry, what?
Oh, I mean, be, be, be, be.
Be honest.
Be honest.
How many of you don't trust the fact that we asked you to come into this room?
Like, what's the motive, right?
You're going to be up here, so you'll be able to tell me.
What's really going on?
Why are we really here?
I said, why are we really here?
My voice is... I can hear him.
He can hear me?
But the people can't hear you watching, there's tens of thousands of people watching.
Yeah, Dave, I know why I'm here.
I'm here to get you all here because I know there's a better way.
I lived in the streets.
I know there's a better way.
I never voted in my life until 2016, and I knew there was a better way.
I'm from the streets of Minneapolis.
I'm from the streets of Minneapolis.
I was a crack cocaine addict, and I've seen stuff.
My friends, we bettered our lives.
We all got set free from drugs by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
And my drug dealers, they changed their life.
Downtown Minneapolis, we had all their businesses built, and it was burned down.
By government there, a Democrat government, let the buildings, let our buildings burn to the ground.
And it was disgusting.
There was things, I could go on and on about leadership I get in Minnesota versus what I've seen.
And I met Donald Trump personally.
I've seen what he could do to help people, all people, not just a party.
This is what I got fed up.
I'm going, I want people, I want politicians that do, they're for the people.
They're elected for the people and they lie to us to get in there.
That's crazy.
They tell the lies, promises broken.
And I see, I see.
You know, when I met one person in politics, and that was Donald Trump, first politician I ever met in my life!
But I met him before he was president, that month before, and it was like talking to a businessman.
And I said, man, if he does this, it was solutions to problems.
And one of my biggest things was, I have a network to help people get off drugs and find Jesus Christ.
And that's what I was doing in 16, going around the country, talking to churches, talking in inner cities everywhere, including Chicago.
I've been here many times on the radio here.
And then all of a sudden I'm going, wow, politics control us so much.
I've got to get into this part and get people, we've got to get people in that will have our back as a people.
Because it's business decisions.
Politics is one big business.
And that's what it is.
And we need decisions made that help all people, not just a party or not just them as an individual.
A secret agenda.
That's why I'm here.
Yeah, so Dave, I want to hear from you, actually, I want to hear from you, but I want to address something that we're not talking about, the elephant in the room, as we try to be as authentic as possible, right?
Because some of you, how many of you are angry?
Everybody's angry.
Right on.
But you're angry and you're disappointed and you're always waiting for the shoe to drop.
Is that right?
The shoe already dropped.
Do you feel invisible?
Like, we're very serious.
Yeah.
This is a serious matter.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, Tio, you're going to vote.
Go ahead.
No, I just want to tell my story for those who don't know.
I ran for governor twice in the state of Illinois as a Democrat.
In 2014, I secured close to 30% of the state vote.
I ran again against J.B.
Pritzker.
The Democrats still did not invite me to the table after being a lifelong Democrat.
That's why I'm here.
I just want to be clear about that.
When you talk about the illegal immigrants that have come to Chicago, you have 66,000 homeless people in Chicago already.
And the homeless people in Chicago were just like disregarded, overlooked on every level, right?
And you got illegal immigrants in Chicago right now receiving anywhere from $5,000 a month, combined with food stamps and cash.
They're paying their rent up.
My people have been struggling for decades.
Nobody wants to talk about reparations.
So my thing is, I'm sitting here to just let you know the reason why I turned Republican.
Because I did my best as a Democrat.
I didn't just make the decision overnight.
I paid my dues.
I was raised as a Democrat.
I grew up in the heart of the ghetto.
I grew up in the projects myself.
I've been clean 30 years, like my man right here, myself.
So I understand the inner city struggle, right?
So what I'm saying to everybody here today, that's the reason that I... But I don't put no man on no pedestal.
I'm pretty much my own man, right?
But the thing is this here.
I'm Republican now.
That's it.
That's what's going on.
I did my best.
Trust me.
I attended meetings.
Tyrone was with me.
We attended meetings.
We tried to meet with everybody to see what was going to go on.
So I wanted to become the governor of the United States and let it go.
I wanted to become the first black governor of the state of Illinois at that time.
Only one term.
So I can spend about five million dollars on the south and west side of Chicago.
You hear me?
I'm dead serious.
You know, that's what I want.
Now, you know what I'm talking about.
I was gonna look out for East St.
Louis, Peoria, other cities.
Well, I didn't just run for black folks.
Don't get me wrong.
I ran for governor.
I wanted to look out for some of the poor white people.
Some of the Spanish that are naturally here, you know, but my priority was my people because for all these decades, nobody has really stepped up to the plate when it comes to our people.
If you look at seven knife and Damon on the South side, the seven knife and South shore, I counted over 1000 abandoned storefronts, right?
1000.
That's just right there.
Now you go to the West side, you got, um, Madison and Pulaski used to be a pretty much flourishing type of area.
A lot of stores and stuff, abandoned buildings everywhere.
So that's what I'm talking about.
That's my country.
That's why I became a Republican.
So once Donald Trump wins, You need to get us a meeting with him.
Absolutely.
Get us a meeting.
He will meet.
This is one thing.
He cares about our country and he will meet.
He's a problem solution.
You guys know what he did.
Nobody even knows this in California.
We went there, I was friends with Ben Carson, and we went to California, they went to California to try and clean up L.A.
They worked with the, actually with the mayor there, and they went there, nobody knew we went there, and they were gonna take this off the streets and set up whole camps to set up separate, complete cities almost, like ten cities, and sort through the people that had problems with addiction, problems with mental health, and get them off there and get them, help pull them, just like, You'll clean up.
It was an amazing program, of course, then 2020 and never got to fruition, but it was all in the works and it got stopped in the sand by the next administration that came in.
They just stopped it cold.
And this could have been an example for every city in the country.
This this what they had set up and it was just sad because all the things that were making progress that we're doing that were I believe as a businessman we're doing great because I watched my friends I watched people that were that that I help in addiction things right in the middle of Minneapolis especially and I watched all these things making progress and then they stopped them as soon as they got in office they stopped all the programs immediately that were going to work I've seen it with my own eyes, so that's good.
Mike, we got another person that wants to be heard.
Cynthia, age 23.
She says she's got about two things she wants to let the people know about.
I switched because of the immigrant crisis and my student loan debts.
That's the reason.
Right on.
Okay, what about, what is it about the student loan debt?
Because, you know, Biden, they're promising that they're going to go ahead and just forgive everyone's debt.
Yeah, he didn't forgive my debt.
He never did it!
He lied?
Come on!
He lied.
He lied!
White hood!
What's going on?
You know, isn't that something?
That's what the thing is that I think you're all tired of being lied to.
I was.
I was tired of being lied to.
I'm from Minnesota, and they lie, lie, lie.
The guy that right now that they took for vice president, I went head-to-head with him.
You know, during the virus, this is an example.
They asked for masks before I knew things about them.
You know, I was producing them and stuff.
I offered them free to the state of Minnesota when they needed them, and he said, we won't take them from Mike Lindell.
We won't take him from my pillow until after the election.
I wasn't doing it for any election, I was doing it to help people.
And I was just like giving out pillows to the state of Minnesota.
And when all those riots came, I was giving pillows to the inner city, to all the people that were helping, the National Guard and stuff.
And he tried to stop that.
This guy, it's disgusting what they're trying to stop for helping people.