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I'm Colonel Conrad Reynolds, along with Will Huff here, and we're going to talk about Wisconsin.
And there's some exciting things going on there, and I am absolutely proud to say we've got a great guest for you tonight.
Former Supreme Court Justice Michael Gabelman is with us tonight.
And he has some keen insight as to what is going on, particularly with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., right?
And the things that are happening right now in Wisconsin concerning his name on the ballot.
Welcome to the program, Justice.
Thank you, Colonel.
It's always a pleasure to be here, and thank you to your listeners for being involved with all of these things.
They've been following us.
I guarantee you the emails that I've gotten and the phone calls concerning the Robin Wall Street call, all the things that have happened in Wisconsin.
But this is particularly interesting with Mr. Kennedy.
Could you explain to us what the issue is and why it's such a big deal?
The issue is tremendously important given the razor-thin margins of presidential races in Wisconsin for the last 20-plus years.
Presidential races in Wisconsin have been decided by margins ranging from about 5,000 votes to about 20,000 votes.
And in 2016, The Green Party candidate, and this is why it's so important, the issue of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
name appearing on the ballot.
And this is why it's getting so much attention, rightfully so, from across the nation.
Which is, in 2016, the Green Party candidate Jill Stein had her name on the Wisconsin ballot, and people kind of understand that she took away as many votes from Hillary Clinton as Donald Trump was declared the winner.
So in other words, a lot of people believe, and I happen to be one of them, that Jill Stein's name appearing on the Wisconsin ballot As the presidential candidate for the Green Party in 2016 was a significant help to candidate Donald Trump and why he was victorious in Wisconsin in 2016.
You fast forward four years to 2020 and President Trump's re-election effort And there, the Wisconsin Elections Commission voted to keep the Green Party candidate off of the Wisconsin ballot.
And I wrote in my report, I had been hired by Speaker Robin Voss following the 2020 election to investigate that election in Wisconsin.
And one of the things that we wrote about in our report is the fact that the Wisconsin Elections Commission had just didn't give any opportunity at all to the Green Party to argue their case about why they should be entitled to stay on the ballot.
And many people, myself included, saw the Wisconsin Elections Commission act of keeping the Green Party candidate off of the ballot in Wisconsin in 2020.
We saw that as an effort to protect Joe Biden and to help Joe Biden's chances because everybody knew, everybody knows, That the Green Party candidate is going to take votes away from the Democrat Party candidate.
And the Wisconsin Elections Commission, which is supposed to be a bipartisan, sort of neutral determiner and interpreter of Wisconsin elections law, I think stuck its thumb right on the scale of the elections by blocking the Green Party candidate in 2020.
From the Wisconsin ballot.
So we come to 2024, and we have a significant difference here in that with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., all of the statistics that I've seen and all of the experts and people commonly understand it, that if Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
did not, if his name did not appear on the Wisconsin ballot, That a majority of the people who were likely to vote for him would in fact vote for Donald Trump.
So now by voting to keep Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 's name on the Wisconsin ballot, the Wisconsin Elections Commission has once again wandered into the territory of affecting, potentially,
Greatly affecting the results of the presidential election here in Wisconsin.
And because Wisconsin is such a critical battle state for either of the two major party candidates, the whole issue is a really big deal.
And even though Uh, Robert F. Kennedy, Mr. Kennedy withdrew.
He didn't withdraw from the LA.
He suspended his campaign, but he did file prior to the commission meeting.
He did file a notice to withdraw his name from the Wisconsin ballot.
But even though he filed that, even though he doesn't want to be a candidate for president anymore, and even though His presence, his name's presence on the Wisconsin ballot will put a thumb on the scale of the presidential election.
So you have a candidate who suspended his race and wants to withdraw his name from the Wisconsin ballot, but yet you have a government agency in the Wisconsin Elections Commission that is forcing him against his will to have his name on the Wisconsin ballot.
And that presence, if it's allowed to stand, could really have a significant impact on the presidential election in November.
Yeah, this election, this Wisconsin Election Commission, we've talked about it, we talked about last night on last night's show yesterday, that they have a tremendous amount of power For just a few, what, six elected bureaucrats, correct?
I mean, they're not elected.
They're appointed.
Appointed bureaucrats.
That's right.
And, you know, I think the defenders of the system, of the way the Wisconsin Elections Commission, if they were being truthful, they would say, yes, we designed the Elections Commission to be impotent, to not be able to have any power at all.
Because we designed it, they would say, to be three Democrats and three Republicans appointed by some combination of the legislative leaders and the governor.
But it hasn't quite worked out that way.
You have a tremendous, tremendous effort going into the commissioners on the Wisconsin Elections Commission, and I don't know if there's something about the water in Madison, Really, what I think it is, is all the pressure, all the public pressure from the media.
is exerted on the Republican members to vote consistent with the way the Democrat members want to have the outcome.
And that is what we've seen.
I've never seen it.
I have never seen it.
And this is a good metaphor for the government structure in general in this country.
I have never seen it where the Democrats have joined the Republicans I've never seen it where the Democrats have joined the Republicans on an issue of importance at the Wisconsin Elections Commission where the question has been up for debate.
I've never seen it.
It's always the other way.
It's always the Republican members going over to the Democrat side.
And why could that be?
I think that could be a whole separate show with the idea of a uniparty.
Of political so-called leaders who, regardless of their party label, are only interested in their own power and their own money, and they want to keep things just as bollock stuff as they are.
By keeping the status quo.
So they're happy to see all the confusion and all of the irregularities of the Wisconsin Elections Commission.
Because as we've seen historically, they've benefited Democrats.
That helps a lot of Republicans.
If you're a Republican so-called leader in the state and you just want to maintain the status quo, then you have a perfect entity.
You have a useful tool in the Wisconsin Elections Commission.
So yesterday, Mr. Kennedy caused to be filed Uh, a brief a petition to the Dane County Circuit Court, which is where the where Madison is our state capital.
And the circuit court there is our highest level of trial court in Wisconsin.
The circuit courthouse is just about 2 blocks from our state capital.
And Mr. Kennedy is arguing that there are three reasons why his name must be withdrawn from the Wisconsin ballot.
And two are related to his constitutional rights.
The first is that he has a constitutional right.
I happen to agree with all of this.
I think it's very hard to argue And also, I guess we shouldn't discount the idea that what he's arguing is basically for fairness.
And his first argument runs to the idea that Everybody in the United States, every citizen, ought to be treated the same way by the government.
And that by treating one person unfairly because of their political affiliation or their designation as a member of one political party or another, treating people differently on that basis is unfair.
And I think we can all agree with that principle and how it works out, how it plays out in the facts of this case, are that if you were a Democrat, and we saw this happen, it's not just hypothetical, Joe Biden, President Biden, withdrew.
From the race, he withdrew from the race and he had President Biden had up until yesterday, the 1st, Tuesday of September in a presidential race year to keep his name off the Wisconsin ballot.
However, for an independent party, such as the one that Mr. Kennedy was running under and had identified himself with publicly, and under which he had sought supporters and received a lot of supporters, He had to do it a month earlier.
And why is that unfair?
Well, it's unfair because it treats different members of different political parties differently, but also from a very practical standpoint, the way that plays out is under this stated statute that the Wisconsin Election Commission said it was going by, That Mr. Kennedy would have had to make that decision a month earlier, the first Tuesday in August, so an entire month before he would have even known who the Democrat candidate for president would be.
And that's a very practical... I don't think you have to be a political expert or an expert in political science to see how Who your opponent is going to be is going to be a significant factor in weighing whether you want to continue with the race.
And so that's his first argument, that it's simply unfair and there's no good government reason for treating people in this circumstance differently.
And it's hard to envision where it would be a good, where it would be fair To treat people differently because of what political party they belong to.
So that's his first challenge.
The second challenge runs to the First Amendment rights, freedom of speech, freedom of association that we all have in this country as part of our rights that are given by God and articulated in our Constitution.
That everybody knows that if Mr. Kennedy's name appears on the Wisconsin ballot, that that will help Kamala Harris and it will hurt President Trump.
Mr. Kennedy, in a wonderful address, and if you're listeners, if you haven't had the chance to see it, I highly recommend it.
A week ago, Friday, when he announced the suspension of his campaign, he really, to me, he evoked the best of his father, the best of his uncle, and what I mean by that is he spoke to Americans A, from the heart.
B, about issues of very practical importance.
And C, in a way that shows us that he's really searching for ways to help the problem, unmotivated by personal gain of either power or wealth.
And what do I mean by that?
Well, two of his principal issues that he talked about are issues that affect all of us, which is the really grotesque issue of obesity that we're facing in this country, and whether it's related to our regulations of food manufacture, and also the The really odd increase we've seen in the rates of autism in our children in this country.
So I just thought I was spellbound by the speech because it was spoken in a sincere and mature manner that treated the listeners as intelligent adults and without any of the baloney that you so often see in political speeches.
So I was really intrigued by it.
And in that same speech, he said, and he was quite candid about the fact that he has differences with President Trump, but that what he has in common and what President Trump wants to do is so far in line with what Mr. Kennedy is urging all of us to look at and to study, that it outweighs the differences.
And so he very, you had this ahistoric moment of a Well, but Kennedy endorsing a Republican.
It is amazing when I saw that.
And in fact, I want to talk more about that and also just a little bit more about the makeup of the committee, the WIC, and how the vote went down.
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Welcome to the Lindell Report.
I'm Colonel Conrad Reynolds, along with Will Huff here, and we want to continue our conversation with Justice Gable.
But before I do that, I want you to know that I'm sitting in this seat tonight because Mike Lindell couldn't be here.
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And he has gone public with that, and we'll talk more about that later in the program.
But that's why I am sitting here, and that is why I have the great privilege to interview the awesome Justice Michael Gabelman.
And we were just talking in the last segment about Robert Kennedy Jr.
and what he is doing right now, particularly with Wisconsin and trying to get his name withdrawn from the ballot and the problems that have ensued there.
Can you continue on what we were talking about with Mr. Kennedy?
Thank you.
I was just wrapping up the second of his two constitutional arguments.
The first, of course, being that people in this country have a right to be treated The same, the same way by their government, regardless of what political party they identify with, which is a pretty straightforward and common sense concept.
The second is the freedom of speech, the First Amendment freedom of speech, freedom of association argument, where he's saying, and again, he's talking to us in a mature fashion, and an honest fashion, Which is why you don't really usually enjoy reading legal briefs, but I enjoyed reading this one because it was very direct and it was very, very mature.
And it just said, look, everybody knows that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
has endorsed President Trump.
And by forcing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
To keep his name on the Wisconsin ballot in the November election, people who would otherwise vote for Donald Trump are going to waste their vote.
Uh, filling in the box, checking the box for Mr. Kennedy.
And he's saying, I think again, quite logically, and it's quite easy to understand, that by forcing him to keep his name on the Wisconsin ballot in November, that the Wisconsin Elections Commission is unlawfully interfering with his right To support the candidate of his choice.
And in that case, in this case, it's it's President Trump.
And I think it's it's absolutely right.
And then the 3rd argument.
The 3rd argument is not a not an argument under the Constitution of our country.
But it is under statutory interpretation, where it's a very simple phrase that's used that says that a candidate, including Mr. Kennedy, can withdraw his name from the ballot at any time prior to the Wisconsin Elections Commission qualifying him for the ballot.
And Or I'm sorry at any time prior to when he's qualified to be on the ballot and a candidate is not qualified to be on the candidate on the ballot.
Until the Wisconsin Elections Commission votes whether or not to put their name on the ballot.
So he's saying under a correct interpretation of the statute,
he had up until the time that the Wisconsin Elections Commission
voted on whether to put Mr. Kennedy's name on the ballot for Wisconsin in November.
He had up until that day, which was only last week, Tuesday or Wednesday,
I don't remember.
And he would have been very timely because his announcement of his intent
to withdraw his name came well before that.
Again, I think a very compelling, straightforward argument that says,
the statute clearly says that he has up until the time that he's qualified
to be on the ballot, and he's not qualified to be on the ballot
until the Wisconsin Elections Commission votes.
And he met that deadline.
So I think he's got three extremely strong arguments, very well articulated.
And I think they also are in sync.
Well, even someone like me, who is not an attorney, just a layman, understands the issue of fairness.
So I really think that under the law, he's got a very high probability of success.
I hope he does.
Well, even someone like me, who is not an attorney, just a layman, understands the issue
of fairness.
I mean, if the Republican and Democrat candidates can have up until what, last Tuesday you said,
then surely as an independent candidate, he would have the same right to be able to withdraw
and to arbitrarily say, no, you're a month ahead.
In other words, you have a whole month that you're going to have to declare earlier and they have all the way up until the first Tuesday of Tuesday in September.
Absolutely appears to be unfair.
I think he's got a strong argument just from common sense that I see.
But the question I have for you is, and a lot of people watching this program, how did we get here?
In other words, when did they vote on this, and what caused them to say, Mr. Kennedy, sorry, you can't withdraw your name?
All that had to be before last Tuesday, right?
Well, I believe, and I didn't follow it extremely closely, Colonel, but I believe that the Elections Commission Would have to vote on whether a candidate is qualified to have their name.
Appear on the ballot and so I think it was just a decision in the ordinary.
A process of things that remember, Mr Kennedy did originally file.
He did originally file to run and so that that request would have been.
As part and parcel of that, that would have included the request to appear on the ballot, for his name to appear on the ballot.
And so in the ordinary course of paperwork, I think it would have just been a fairly, usually a fairly routine kind of vote, that if a candidate files to run and otherwise meets the requirements, then they would be qualified to have their name appear on the ballot.
And so it's just It's just an anomaly, a little bit of an anomaly, but I guess we can see not that much of an anomaly because President Biden chose to do the same thing, right?
Which is to get in the middle of a presidential campaign where he, of course, is the incumbent.
And we have the specter, the odd specter of him on Friday Telling the world that he's not going anywhere and that he's going to stay on the ballot But then something happened on Saturday because on Sunday he was telling us all that he is going to withdraw So it really it isn't just hypothetical and I by the way I don't think colonel given the fact that of our friendship and my respect for you I don't think I can get away with you kind of implicitly calling yourself a simple military intelligence officer
You know, one of the qualifying factors should be, I want to be on the ballot.
Shouldn't that be one of the things that qualify you to be on the ballot?
But that is it.
Well, thank you.
Yes, that's the way I see it.
It's simple, very simple.
But I appreciate that.
I got a question for you, Justice.
You know, one of the qualifying factors should be, I want to be on the ballot.
Shouldn't that be one of the things that qualify you to be on the ballot, that you want to
be on it?
Well, and I think that's exactly right.
And I think that the interpretation of the statute that Mr.
Kennedy's lawyers are arguing, which I think is correct, kind of gives life to that idea
by saying that the proper interpretation of the statute is that a candidate such as Mr. Kennedy has
up until the time when he When the Elections Commission votes on whether to place the candidate's name on the ballot, to withdraw his name from the ballot, and that also
It's not just hypothetical here.
Here we had a major shift in things where President Biden withdrew that enforcement of this law as interpreted right now, as applied right now by the Wisconsin Elections Commission, would force a candidate for an independent party to decide whether to proceed with a presidential race Not knowing who his or her opponents are going to be.
I mean, that's just really unfair.
It's just wrong.
Period.
The WECC in this last month and a half have seemed to have been doing things where they do it one way for one group.
on another way for another one.
We just had this with the recall election where they disallowed signatures that were on labor
or Memorial Day and the holiday for the recall, but they counted them for people running for
office.
What is going on with the WECC?
I think they just need to be dismantled.
I think I agree.
The first recommendation that my office made at the conclusion of our investigation is that the Wisconsin Elections Commission office must be dismantled.
That it must be done away with.
That is, it is either hopelessly partisan or hopelessly negligent and The odd way that the commission was designed to lack any real power by saying, okay, we think that three Democrats and three Republicans are always going to be in disagreement over questions of importance, and that no Republican will ever feel pressured or otherwise
Uh, to go over and vote with the Democrats.
I think that was a flawed premise from the beginning.
And like I say, I guess my view would be different if I had ever seen either of the, let's say, stronger personality Democrats.
There are two of them.
Who basically run the show, as far as I can see.
I've been watching the Wisconsin Elections Commission for about four years now, and I've sat through a lot of their meetings.
And you have two Democrats there, one in particular, who really is the powerhouse.
And then they, of course, have the support of the entire media.
So the Republican members are going to feel A lot of pressure, especially if those Republican members were appointed by a Republican who let's just, you know, let's say, hypothetically, does not support President Trump.
Well, those Republicans, members of the Elections Commission who were appointed by that so-called Republican leader, are not necessarily going to be looking for a way to apply the law uniformly and fairly if it doesn't have the result that is intended by the man who appointed them.
Right.
Who caused them to be appointed.
So the WECC was established when?
It was 2016?
Is that when it was established?
2016 and it was It was designed to replace an entity that was even worse.
That entity was called the Government Accountability Board, which was revealed to be what everyone thought it was, but during a case that I happened to write the opinion on, where they really misused the law and misrepresented the law to create their own law and to create a way to investigate a Republican governor.
And you saw things under the Government Accountability Board, which was run by a hardcore far-left Democrat, and he was exposed publicly just a year or two prior to when his agency, and he had been there for something like 30 years.
Was this, were they going after Governor Walker, or was that when, is that?
Yes.
It was called the John Doe case, but the John Doe in question was Scott Walker, who was the governor.
And it had to do with the Government Accountability Board working with the Milwaukee County Democrat District Attorney to create a law that did not exist.
And then to use law enforcement tactics and investigation techniques Including interception of emails and interception of regular mail between people whose only offense was to be a supporter of Governor Walker.
And so that exposed to the world the really grotesque partisanship of the guy who'd been running it for 30 years so they they dismantled that and then they replaced it with this thing called the Wisconsin Elections Commission and they never really identified the the structural order the the statutes say
That the people who are responsible for running the elections in this state are the 1,852 municipal clerks.
And I couldn't agree with that more because, I don't know who said it first, but I believe the best government is local government.
People who know each other.
And in these townships and in these villages, so many of which I've worked and lived in, The people, mainly ladies, the men and women who become clerks, are clerks because they have been active and interested in their communities, and they know the people in the communities.
But the Elections Commission was formed and created With a very ambiguous power structure so that you have every member, every six of the Wisconsin Elections Commission members, probably believes that they have more power than the clerks.
But even though they're lawyers, once my investigation started, for the first time ever since its creation in 2015-2016, For the first time ever, you had the officers of WECC of the Wisconsin Elections Commission say, no, no, we're not the power here, it's the clerks.
So if there's any criminal or civil liability or otherwise for things that happened inappropriately during the 2020 election in Wisconsin, it is not Wisconsin Elections Commission that can be held liable.
But rather, it is the clerks, the local clerks.
So they found it convenient to claim that they didn't have authority, but that's the only time that I know of that they've said that the clerks have superiority in determining.
Otherwise, it's always presented that they are the power.
And so that goes to Mr. Huff's.
Uh, question earlier, which is to say that these people are unaccountable that they have seized power in a way that.
But that either the people who put the Republicans, it's a Republican creation and either the Republicans who created it didn't care that this was going to result because.
These people who created it are very smart.
There are many things and one of them is very smart.
And they either knew this was going to happen or they were fine.
They designed it to happen this way.
Well, one thing that we've learned They have a lot of power.
We know that.
And we saw what we saw that in the Racine recall.
We saw the recall loss, and now we're seeing it in this Kennedy situation.
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Welcome back to the Lindell Report.
I'm Colonel Conrad Reynolds, along with Will Huff here, and we're interviewing Justice Michael Gabelman, former Supreme Court Justice in Wisconsin.
And we've had a great discussion.
Justice, thank you so much for the things you've added concerning JFK, what's going on there.
There are a lot of issues in Wisconsin, and I don't think there's anybody who's got their finger on the pulse of Wisconsin like you do.
There's absolutely no question in my mind.
I have a hard time understanding what the Republican Party in Wisconsin is doing.
It seems like every time I turn around, there's some issue.
And I just mentioned before, you could throw a dart just about anywhere in Wisconsin, there's a problem with the Republican Party.
Something going on.
Can you explain that to our audience?
I think the best way, the most efficient way for me to explain what's happening With our state Republican Party, the RPW, as they call a Republican Party of Wisconsin, and its leader, Speaker Voss, whose work ethic and intelligence are, I respect.
However, The best analogy I can think for Speaker Voss and the RPW in relation to everybody else in the state who is a Republican is that of the old Soviet Union Politburo to its citizens.
That it is a exclusive small circle that is run for the personal benefit of Speaker Voss and for the people in his orbit who do what he tells them to do.
And we saw that recently in this perverse... Reagan, Ronald Reagan, was famous for a lot of things, but none so more as in Republican circles.
His articulation of what he called the 11th Commandment, and that was, Thou shalt not speak evil of thy fellow Republicans.
Well, we've come a long way because we saw Robin Voss as the so-called leader of the Republicans in the state.
A leader, by the way, so-called, who has a 12% approval rating in the state.
And he's earned each of those 12%.
We saw him spend, or at his behest, his supporters spend well over half a million dollars.
That was the last reporting date.
I'm confident that the following reporting dates are going to show that he spent or told others to spend about a million dollars.
To support the people, his hand-picked candidates in the primaries.
What does that mean?
That means that he spent, and his supporters at his request I believe, spent about a million dollars to hurt other Republicans whose only offense Only expected offense is going to be that they weren't going to be sufficiently subservient to Speaker Vos.
That right now Speaker Vos has a very lucrative thing going where he is the bottleneck for all legislation in the state.
Nothing advances either in the state senate Or in the Assembly without Speaker Vos' say-so.
So, if he has an entire caucus, that is, if all or a vast majority of the Republicans in the Assembly, which is already the case, but apparently he wanted it even more convenient, if they all just do what Speaker Vos tells them to do, then he effectively runs the state.
And I think there's a lot of power there, and I think my guess would be there's a lot of money there.
And so he helped spend a million dollars to hurt, to defeat Republican candidates in the primaries that we just had last month.
Because he didn't think that the the Republicans that he was trying to hurt would be sufficiently loyal to him.
And so we really have a huge disconnect in this state where people.
Either they don't know what's going on, or they know enough what's going on, but they don't have the means to do anything about it.
The Speaker, of course, is elected by the members of the Assembly, and so there would have been a very practical reason for him to pick off candidates who he didn't think were going to be sufficiently loyal to him, because they might not have voted for him, for Speaker.
If you get any member of the Assembly to speak honestly, they will tell you about the retribution and the vindictiveness and the lengths to which this guy goes and that he tells people he's gonna go.
Uh, in terms of telling people that he was the, uh, he was the rat, or he was the informant, I guess, uh, is the proper term.
The informant, uh, to get other Republicans in trouble with the law and with, uh, regulatory agencies when they crossed him.
And these are things, these, these vary wildly.
Use your imagination, and I'm sure you're going, like you said, throw a dart.
Use your imagination and you're probably right.
It runs the gamut from a minor regulatory offense to things that are quite lurid.
But he spent all of that money, a million dollars, and really he's a never-Trumper.
He's a never-Trumper, and that is not the way that most Republicans in this state feel.
Believe me, everywhere in this state that I drive, I see Trump signs.
I see Trump signs, not so much Trump vans, but I still see Trump Pence signs that people never took down or put up.
After the election, because they know that the 2020 election in Wisconsin was corrupt.
It was corrupted by irregularities, by new laws made up, or just laws that were overruled, unlawfully so, by the Wisconsin Elections Commission.
And they're mad about it.
But we have a so-called leader Of the Republican Party in this state.
And I'm not a member of the Republican Party of Wisconsin.
I don't know what that means anymore.
Because there's such an enormous disconnect.
Between its leadership and about 99% of its members.
It really is a dysfunctional system that one way or another just cannot last.
You know, in this election, there's a lot of talk about their dubbing Kamala Harris, Kami Kamala.
And things of that sort about communism.
But right there in Wisconsin, Breitbart wrote an article about Robin Voss being the head of a front group for the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party.
Do you think this has to do with trying to keep President Trump from getting back in office?
And what we see in Wisconsin with the lack of new signs for Trump Vance, where it's gone down to Patriots like Ken Sikora, not Ken Sikora, Ken Fuller, painting his own signs in Racine County to distribute them.
What do you think that CCP ties and this communist stuff might have to do with this?
Well, I think just the fact that we're wondering about it, just the fact that we're speculating about all the trips and all of the benefits that Speaker Voss has accepted from the CCP, as well as his not just defense, but advocacy on behalf of communist China, where he said publicly, not too long ago, Something about all the wonderful things that China has done for all the countries in the world.
I think that's more or less a quote.
Which is a really odd comment to make, but it's especially odd when you understand that he made it after the Secretary of State of the United States of America.
Flew to Madison, Wisconsin to give a speech to Speaker Voss' assembly to say, please cut your ties with this CCP front group.
And then what does Speaker Voss and his group do a few months later?
They publicly announced that they are renewing their ties or they're re-announcing their ties.
So, who knows?
Who knows what's happening?
But just the fact that we're talking about it and just the fact that there's reason to wonder should be enough.
And I think that 12% approval rating speaks quite loudly.
However, he's got an iron grasp around the throats of 90% of the Wisconsin Assembly are Republicans, if not more.
It really is the party of status quo.
I don't know what political party he ascribes to it, other than the Uniparty, other than the party of the status quo, that things are just fine.
And that is why I see the media attempt to cram down our throats this Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
The media is acting as one of the main PR wing for the Harris and Walz candidacy when everybody knows the joke, and the joke is a terribly cruel one, that they are in the process of playing on the American people, which is to say, we are going to help Kamala Harris and Tim Walz hide their real views and their real opinions From the American people, because we all know, we all know what they want to do to this country.
And we're going to help them hide that because we know that Donald Trump is, I believe, the 1 candidate who they cannot buy.
And that they have no compromising materials.
People don't talk about how much compromising materials, such as video or other things of politicians, political leaders doing things that they ought not to do and don't want other people to know about.
And that is a way that they get to be controlled.
Well, everything that Donald Trump has done in his life, I think most of the world knows about.
And if there are a few things that we don't know about, nothing's going to shock us.
But I think that fact makes him extraordinarily dangerous to all of the very powerful members of that uniparty, of that party of status quo of leave it alone, we collect money from our corporate sponsors, we decide what happens to that money, we distribute it as we see fit, and then we decide who the very members of our assembly or on a broader scale our congress are going to be so that it becomes this self-perpetuating
never-ending cycle of people who just want the status quo and they correctly see Donald
Trump as a disrupter.
Just as I don't think we've seen a similar thing since 1962, 1963, when after the Bay
of Pigs occurred and President Kennedy, then President Kennedy, felt that he had been betrayed
by the CIA and by a lot of the military, most of the military leadership, that he came to
the conclusion that they had tried to trick him into an actual takeover of the island
of Cuba.
And then, remember, President Kennedy made the vow to smash the CIA into a thousand,
shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.
And then a few months later, he got shot in the head in Dallas, and then Lyndon Johnson appoints Alan Dulles, the guy that Kennedy fired as head of the CIA, to be a member of the Warren Commission.
I think one thing that President Kennedy and President Trump have in common I think.
For some reason, I felt compelled to watch a lot of President Kennedy's speeches lately.
And it's just of a different flavor than we're used to seeing.
They're far more mature.
They're far more, I think, truly candid than most of what we see now.
I think President Kennedy and President Trump genuinely wanted What is best for the American people?
And they didn't need any more money.
And their egos, they don't have the kind of ego where they need the power for their personal gratification.
But they really, at both of their points in life, came to places where they really wanted to put their extraordinary talents to use for the public good.
And all of the people who benefit from the legalized corruption.
Uh, that we have really want to stop them.
And that's why we saw remember we saw an article or we just saw Eric Weinstein, who really is a brilliant guy.
He's not well known in the public, but he became very wealthy, I believe, doing hedge funds.
And he just said in an interview the other day, I don't know that President Trump will be allowed.
We're in a tough spot for our country.
We are.
We got about 30 seconds or so left.
Anything you want to say to the audience?
absent a miracle we would have seen another president we would have seen
what a grotesque replay of what we saw in Dallas so we're in a tough spot for
our country we always got about 30 seconds or so left anything you want to
say to the audience you got 30 seconds I really I really want to pray for our
country I really think we need to pray.
All of us is flawed.
None of us is perfect.
All of us have made mistakes.
But let us pray that no matter what happens in the November election, that it's an honest election.
And I think I'll leave on a good note, a note that I can find some positive news.
We don't have the same Zuckerberg money.
Going into our public election system in Wisconsin that we had in 2020, where Mark Zuckerberg, who wanted to defeat Donald Trump, put his paid agents into the clerk's offices of some of our largest cities.
And then they went and hunted down Biden voters to get them to fill out and return ballots.
We don't have that right now.
And We need to get this RFK Jr.
matter straightened out in Wisconsin so we can have an honest, straightforward election that truly reflects the will of the people of this state.
And I just pray to God that we have an honest election and that no matter what happens as a result of it, Well, well said, Justice, and I agree with you 100%.
Thank you so much for joining the program tonight.
I appreciate your views, and maybe the next time we can get Mr. Kennedy on as well.
And if there's more news to come out, we'll get you both back here.
But thank you so much.
Thank you, sir.
All right.
And thank you for watching tonight.
I'm Colonel Conrad Reynolds, along with Will Huff.
We're going to say goodnight and appreciate the opportunity to host Mike's show.
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