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Aug. 14, 2024 - The Lindell Report - Mike Lindell
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The Lindell Report | 14 August 2024
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My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
Thank you.
Our next guest is that pillow man, and he has a lot to say.
All nine of those Supreme Court justices are going to vote 9-0 because here's your, is that a hand or a foot?
And they're going to go, it's a hand.
It's like the old mouth of your days.
When I used to bet football, you have been warned.
Ooh, you know?
Yeah.
He couldn't run a peanut factory!
Not that peanut factories are... I don't know what they are, but... Did you see any nudity in porn?
I'm getting death threats and everything else.
Frank Speaks, if you can't come in, they're trying to turn our power off.
They're attacking our power grid here.
They're attacking his power grid.
Please welcome Mike Lindell.
Thank you.
Well, thank you for coming.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
We were supposed to be in a bed together.
I'm sorry about that.
The COVID people said... You have rules here in California.
Have you been vaccinated?
No, I have not been vaccinated.
No, you have not.
I meant for rabies.
I didn't mean for COVID.
I did bring you a book, though.
You brought me a book?
I read your book, by the way.
You read it?
I did read your book.
You know that cover on there?
That's where that was up 14 days with the drug dealers.
I read it on my iPad.
And they did an intervention on me.
Yeah.
And I came upstairs, downtown Minneapolis, came upstairs and I said, the one guy says,
you know, you've been telling us for years this pillow thing is just a platform for God
and we want you to quit and come back and help us someday.
Now I got the Lindell Recovery Network and I'm helping millions of addicts.
And you've set an example by recovering from horrible addiction to crack.
I mean, really, a horrible thing.
And I have to tell you something.
I know you might think this sounds weird, but I read Hunter Biden's book as well, and you guys have a lot in common.
You really do.
The same things when you're paranoid, the paranoia go with it.
That's what I want to talk to you about, the paranoia.
You are here, you've been in hiding, is that correct?
Yeah, but not because of paranoia.
Well, how do you know?
You haven't been home for a couple months, back home in Minnesota.
Is this true?
Tell me if I have this wrong.
No, that's right.
I've been working hard on this election and the machines.
And the machines.
And we've heard a lot about the machines.
But you were worried that someone was trying to kill you.
Well, we've had threats.
Many, many, many threats.
You have.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you started out as a bar owner in Minnesota, right?
Well, I started out... I was always kind of an entrepreneur.
My sister flooded a third-story building in my apartment complex, so I became a carpet cleaner.
You did a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
You then got addicted to...
cocaine and then crack. You have a gambling problem, you supported yourself
counting cards, you smoke more crack, you would go to these casinos, you'd count
cards, they'd throw you out, you were arrested multiple times, you had to sell
your beloved bar, you started making pillows, you quit smoking crack, you made
millions of dollars, and then you fell in love with Donald Trump and now here we
are. Is that correct? Did I miss anything?
Well, you missed one thing.
What did I miss?
On January 16, 2009, by the grace of God, He did free me of all the addictions.
Yes.
And I woke up, I'm going, I'm looking around, I'm going, I wasn't into politics, I didn't know anything about what a conservative was, a liberal, I didn't know a filibuster from a millibuster, I didn't know anything.
Some would say you still don't, Mike, to be honest.
I do say wash and not wash.
So I said if I ever ran, I'd put the R back in Washington.
But anyway, no, the summer of 16, I was invited by Donald Trump.
I had never met him before.
August 15 2016 and it was a meeting he brought me in and he said he we talked about he says Mike you do all your manufacturing here I want to bring the manufacturing back and we talked I said you know I used to be a crack addict I want to help help millions of addicts with you liked his made in the USA this idea this made in the USA policy that he had Well, yeah, if you can make it here.
A lot of things you can't.
Yes, he doesn't make anything.
I mean, his website is like two-thirds made elsewhere.
But there's a lot of things you can't make here.
This is my sheets.
There's no weavers or spinners left in the United States.
My towels, I use all U.S.
cotton.
I have to ship it over because they don't have the technology here.
Let's be truthful.
By the way, I have a buzzer here, just for the lawyers, in case there's anything that we have to challenge.
A lot of people didn't want you to come on this show.
On liberals and conservatives, everybody told me don't have you on the show, and they told you don't go on the show.
Yes, they did.
But I think it's important that we talk to each other.
Absolutely.
I also, you know I don't like, I don't think there's any validity to any of this stuff that you're saying.
And I've studied you, I really have.
And I've kept an open mind.
I watched you last night at 11 o'clock.
I've been watching you.
You know what, I laugh at a lot of the stuff, but a lot of people don't laugh because a lot of these ideas that you espouse, I think, you know, I think you could potentially draw a line from those to the riot we had at the Capitol where people were killed and a lot of bad things.
Well, here's what I want to say to that.
I didn't get anything until January 9th, and this was something different.
This was the machines.
This was an attack through the machines.
You've seen it.
And what I'm saying is to everyone, this isn't a Democrat or Republican thing.
For me, it's putting it out there.
It's like this.
I want to ask everyone this.
If someone was out there saying my pillows had rocks and knives in it, I would say, hey, come and look at the beautiful patented fill.
And I say, show me the rocks and knives.
But Dominion and Smartmatic, they didn't do that.
They're just suing Well, you're saying they have rocks and knives in their voting machines, and they're saying, no, we don't.
But they don't show their machines.
That's the big thing.
They're even trying to stop it.
But the federal government has, I mean, every... No, they did not.
They didn't have this evidence until January 9th.
And yet, but they have this evidence now, you say?
No, we're bringing it all to the Supreme Court.
This will all get there.
But you have said repeatedly that you're bringing this evidence, and I assume you haven't seen this evidence.
Have you seen it?
Oh yeah, I've seen it, or I wouldn't know.
Why is it taking so long if this is such a serious thing?
Because I wanted to, as you've seen in Absolute Interference, the new one I put out, There's a cyber, it's a white hat hacker that works for the government, one of the best in the world.
When our country's attacked, these are the guys that go in for the cyber attacks and check it all out and validate it.
So I hired them to validate the evidence that I have that these guys brought me over here.
Now realize, Jimmy, the only reason I have the evidence is because I became a voice after January 9th where they're going, hey, we've tried to get this out there and nobody had.
Do you ever think it's weird, I mean, just objectively looking at yourself and going, why is it that the only person in the country who has this evidence is a guy who sells pillows on cable?
I bring it all the way back to when I was on your show here in 2014.
It was the Forrest Gump thing.
I don't know.
Do you think, I know, you know what, I can see how that would be in your head, honestly.
Let's show that picture, because weirdly, as a coincidence, you were here with Bob Seger's crew, right, or something?
And I took a picture, you know, of you and I, I'm going, my friends that were alive, they're going, oh, you took a picture of me, yeah, there you go, that is me.
My friends are going, what are you doing on stage with Jimmy Kimmel?
Now this actually, I think, plays into what we're talking about here.
I could see how, I mean, you're worth many millions of dollars.
I have no idea how much money you're worth.
I give it all to charity, I do.
Okay, whatever you do with it.
Whatever you do with it, but I could see how you would think, well, there must be some divine intervention here.
Because how did a person who was in, you know, a motel room buying crack and gambling and, you know, away from his family and all of these things, how did this happen to me?
I must be special.
But I'm going to suggest to you that maybe it's a coincidence and that maybe this information that you have, that you believe in, I mean, let's be honest, your website doesn't even really work so well.
Why would you think that you have broken this code of all people?
brought it to me, and this was Nigeria.
But these people are not...
The only reason they did, Jimmy, is because I have the voice.
I worry about you.
I feel like you are maybe self-destructive, like you have lost everything repeatedly so
many times in your life.
You've had a bar, you know, all of these things.
You know the story.
Yeah.
I lived it.
But now, do you think maybe that that's what...
I mean, now, I feel like we're going to...
You're going to be out dressed as Spider-Man on Hollywood Boulevard at the end of this
whole thing.
Dominion is suing you for 1.3 billion dollars.
You've got to realize my pillow countersued them and what Alan Dershowitz said will be the biggest lawsuit, the most important in history for the First Amendment right of free speech.
But for one of you, this is not going to work out well.
Okay, whether it be them or you.
That's not even the lawsuits we're talking about.
What I'm talking about, no matter who you are in this country, I'm not just some person that decided, hey, I want, you know, your producer asked me, they said, you know, Mike, would you have done it if it was reversed?
Knowing what I have now, if they would have put Donald Trump back in on December 14th, and knowing what I had right now, I would still be sounding the alarm going, you guys, these machines, they were hacked and we have to do something in our country.
I believe that you are sincere.
I also think there's something going on from the crack or something that has you know, whatever that is
Make me think I mean you mentioned paranoia What made me think that what made me do this is just like
when I met Donald Trump on August 15 2016 I didn't know anything about politicians, but I met this
man that had problem solution and he knew what they'd manifest to him
And I went out, talked to his employees.
I thought, wow, this guy could be the greatest president ever.
I talked to his employees, and every one of them said the same thing.
I went back to Minnesota, and I said, I did a press release to the press.
I was the media's darling.
And all of them go, you know, I do this press release.
I said I met him.
Didn't even tell him what we talked about.
And I was attacked like you've never seen.
And I'm going, they called me a racist.
They called me everything you could imagine.
And I thought they were real people.
You know, I'm going, wow, what did I do?
I just said I met this guy.
You know, I had not been into politics.
So I got behind a person that he kept his promises.
I had vetted him.
And I'm not going to change on something I have that I vetted.
Now if I didn't have this evidence, Jimmy, it'd be different.
But I have it.
It's real.
So people can say, oh, you're an ex-crack addict, so your brain's not right.
But you know what?
They can say all they want.
It's going to come out.
I keep putting the evidence out.
It's going to come out.
Maricopa County, they're trying to stop as we speak today.
I know.
That's a ridiculous operation going on there.
Because you know what?
All we need is to look at the machines.
If there's nothing to hide, why won't they let the American people look at them?
Well, it's not the American people.
It's some company from Florida that has a guy who's spread conspiracy theories in the past.
It's not an unbiased company that's evaluating this.
Why isn't Dominion?
If I was Dominion, I would have said right in the beginning when this evidence came out on January 9th to me, said, hey, just look at everybody.
Let's look at it.
The federal government at the time was run by people who were appointed by the Trump administration.
Look into this.
And they say it is the most secure election we've ever had.
No, he said that.
The same guy, no, I mean the same guy, that was Chris Krebs.
That was Chris Krebs that said that.
Do you know three weeks ago, Chris Krebs and Adam Schiff were on Morning Joe and they asked him, what's the biggest threat to our country right now?
And they said, China attacked, cyber attacks from China, right down to local races.
Chris Krebs said that.
He didn't know about this back when he said it was a secure election.
He did not have this on January 9th.
This was after this.
I want to just say one thing real quick because I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea here.
We're going to, we have limited time on this show.
We'll put this whole conversation on YouTube so that people can see the whole thing.
Alright, but I need to take a commercial break.
Mike Lindell is here with us.
We'll be right back.
We're back with Michael and Gal music from Tom Jones is on the way.
Congratulations on your Razzie Awards.
Yeah, I heard about that.
You won Worst Picture and Worst Actor.
Have they sent the trophies to you?
No, they didn't.
I don't know what I won, but I guess it's an honor.
I guess so.
Your friend Rudy Giuliani was also the recipient of a Razzie Award for Worst Supporting Actor, I believe.
Now, he got rated by the feds today.
Is he somebody you are in touch with?
No.
No.
Is Donald Trump somebody you're in touch with?
I've talked to him maybe once every month or so, you know, if I'm down there.
When's the last time you spoke to him?
A couple weeks ago, I guess, when he said he was worried about what was going down at the border.
He said, I'm really worried about what's going on.
And he called you to tell you he was worried about that?
No, no, no.
We were talking about something else.
Tell me about that meeting.
But I know his concern was the border.
That meeting, when you went into his office, in the heat of all this craziness going on.
There's you, you're at the White House, and let's zoom in and see, and a lot has been made of this.
This was, it said, martial law if necessary on the documents that you had.
You say those were not your papers.
No, they weren't.
I had four papers of the evidence, and then these lawyers, there's a whole team of lawyers, like 20, 30 lawyers.
They had given me two pieces of paper and said, if you get a meeting, go ahead and can deliver this.
Had you read that?
No, I had not even read it.
So you were like their paper mule.
I just stood there like, yeah, I'm bringing this.
And then I said to him, I said to him, I said, here, and this came from a lawyer.
And there was Robert O'Brien, the National Security Advisor, a couple other people.
And he read the first line after we had talked about the evidence.
He said, bring these upstairs and see if there's any... Did you discuss martial law with the president?
No.
No, absolutely not.
You were there for what reason specifically?
To bring him the evidence from January 9th about the machines and this attack by China on our country through the air.
And then what did he do, and what did his people do with this evidence?
Because it seems like that's something he'd be very interested in.
They took me.
I said, here, and these are from a couple lawyers.
But I showed them this.
I said, these are things, cyber attacks launched through latitude machines and attacked by China.
Do you really understand this stuff?
Yes, absolutely.
Do you know what an IP address is?
Yeah.
IP and then we have the IDs of the computers.
What does IP stand for?
Do you know?
I don't know what it stands for.
I think that you should know what IP stands for if you have evidence.
It's where the computers are at, wherever the IP address is of the computers.
So you're not an expert when it comes to this stuff?
I don't have to be.
I'm not an expert.
I don't have to be an expert.
I know that they know when I talk to the guy that validated it.
Do you have a hotmail address?
Be honest, Michael.
No, I do not.
You donated $50,000 to a legal fund that was used to bail out the, as they call him, the Kenosha shooter, this kid who had the assault rifle.
No, that's not true.
But what's not true about it?
No, I gave money to Lin Wood's foundation and whatever and he did stuff with many different things.
So he did, he didn't, you did not know he was using that money?
He has all kinds of stuff.
He has all kinds of different things that he was... When you found out he was using money to bail this kid out, did you ask for that money back?
I didn't know he used it for that.
He used it for what I was using for his election fraud.
But once you found out that... No, he used it for election fraud.
That's what he told you.
No, that's what it was on his website.
Someone did a story, the news grabs it and goes, you gave money to Lin Wood, you did this with it.
They didn't check it out, it's more fake news that come out there and lead stories with that.
Well, but you did give money to Lin Wood.
Alan Turing probably put that on there.
He decides what's true or not in this country.
Do you believe in Bigfoot?
I don't know, probably not.
I haven't seen it, so I don't know.
Are you planning to run for governor of Minnesota?
I wouldn't run to be a dog catcher right now if those machines were still in.
Stop the presses.
You got this guy out there.
This is a fraud.
This is not the man.
You gotta get this guy some blue shirts.
Hold on a second.
I'm as comfortable in my pajamas as I am in a bleeding bandage on top of my head.
You got this guy out here.
He's claiming to be me.
That's an imposter.
First they went for the phones.
First they went for our phones and now they're sending in clones.
Look at him.
Look at him.
That's not it.
Now I don't know which one of you is which.
I challenge you to a pillow fight at the Minnesota State Fair this summer.
You got it.
You got it.
We settled it.
We settled it.
Gonna kill you guys.
You guys are targets for killers.
Jimmy, this is a chance for you to show some leadership for once.
It's a King Solomon moment.
Cut the pillow in half.
Whoever screams more, it's my pillow!
All right.
Well, I don't know who to talk to now.
I really don't.
Don't worry.
I'm fully vaccinated.
I had the liquid polyurethane vaccine.
I'm good to go.
Have you tried the oleandrine?
Look, I tried nitrate.
I gargle with echinacea.
I'm a good man.
The Chinese are so close.
There's a Chinese theater across the street.
Oh, yeah.
And you tell me they haven't even hacked into our phones?
I don't even look at a phone!
I carry a jitterbug with me at all times.
We got a couple of Mike Lindells here.
I don't know which one is which.
All I know is that my pillows are no longer sold at any stores.
Pillow and Eve, not my pillow and Steve!
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All the colorful, unhinged characters who've come to prominence in the political era of Donald Trump
Our next guest is probably the most enthusiastic to help him overcome his debilitating fear of machines.
We have installed him inside a claw machine for his interview tonight.
Joining us now from the corner of Donkey Kong and Q-Bert, the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell.
Hello, Mike!
Jimmy Crumble, is that you?
It's me.
Well, Mike, first question, Mike, is why do you think people don't take you seriously?
Well, you know, I want to tell you this, Jimmy.
Remember when we were kids and we questioned these carnival games whether they were rigged or not?
Yeah, right.
But when we spoke up back then, we didn't get sued, did we?
No, that's right.
Hey, Mike, get rid of that kid.
Will you give him a toy or something like that?
Here you go.
You got a winner.
It's a rigged game.
Mike, I know that you're distrustful of machines.
Now that you're inside one, do you feel differently?
No, same thing.
Computers can be rigged out there, absolutely, in elections.
You know that.
Did you ask Donald Trump whether you should do this or not?
Do you run this sort of thing by him?
No, I didn't, Jimmy.
I did this all on my own.
I wanted to be on your show.
You, you, you know, you kept telling me to come on, but you, you know, I seen the monologue there.
You said it's because, to put me in here because I was, wasn't vaccinated.
You tricked me.
You did it to be funny, huh?
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't want you in there because you weren't vaccinated.
I don't know.
To be honest, I don't even remember why I decided you should be in there.
I know you said it on your show.
It seemed like a good idea when it happened.
I have to say, I was very surprised when you said you would do it.
But, you know, I put it out there.
And so you said yes.
So, you know, I'm honoring that commitment that I made on the air.
No, you did great.
You did great.
So last week, Mike, you actually, during the weekend, you ran for chairman of the Republican National Committee.
This is the committee that is kind of in charge of fundraising.
It decides where the money goes.
It's a very powerful group.
Correct.
And you seemed, by my count, very confident that you had a chance to win this thing.
Let's look at the tape.
I'm running for chairman of the RNC.
I plan on winning.
And you know what?
I plan on winning.
I want to win that RNC chair.
We're ahead in every single poll out there.
I'm 100% all in.
And when I go all in, I go all in to win.
I just want to win, everybody.
Not only am I going to win, but it's going to change real fast.
Are you confident that you can win?
Yeah, absolutely.
A lot of them are going, do you think you can win?
Do you think you win?
Of course I'm going to win.
Mike, some of the polls show you winning this.
Oh yeah, yeah, they all do.
Now Mike, the poll actually did show you as the favorite, right?
The Rasmussen poll.
That's correct, yep.
And then this happened.
Mike Lindell received 4 votes, Harmeet Dhillon received 51 votes, and Ronna McDaniel received 111 votes.
Now, does this seem like an indication that maybe your barometer when it comes to voting is off?
No, what it seems like, Jimmy, is that the RNC did, that their representatives didn't listen to the people of our country that wanted a change in the RNC leadership because I was the top of all the polls.
I almost doubled both of them combined in the Rasmussen report, which came out last Thursday, the day before the vote.
So they, you know, I didn't realize that they, uh, you know, that they would, I would think that they would have went with what the people wanted because they represent the people.
Do you believe this was a rigged election too?
No, absolutely not, Jimmy, because there was no machines involved.
It was paper ballots, hand counted.
Right.
Okay.
So, um, you lost, you would have lost either way, I guess is what you're saying.
Well, I don't know if I'd have machines.
Somebody could have filled with the numbers, right?
You distrust machines.
Does that extend to, like, sewing machines?
Yeah.
Tell me, like, what about ice machines?
Are you OK with those?
Jimmy, you know what?
You can make fun of that, but we know the machines I'm talking about are voting machines, computers used in elections, because we want to have elections and not selections.
So not like the George Foreman Lean Mean Grilling Machine would not be on your list of things to melt down and make into prison bars?
No, just the voting machines.
We got enough for them to melt down into prison bars.
Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine.
They're cool, right?
What's that?
I said Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine.
I can't hear you, Jimmy.
I can't hear you.
I'm sorry.
It turns out you're locked inside a claw machine.
Yeah.
You know, one of the differences between you and the claw machine is claw machines let go.
And you will not let go of this voting thing, will you?
Never.
I want to help save our country.
And I love our country.
I love the people in our country.
We've got to get rid of the computers in our elections.
Mike, I have to tell you, and I mean this sincerely, I believe that you believe this stuff.
I believe that you are really convinced that... I mean, the evidence that you've presented is nonsensical, but I do believe that...
That you are convinced that there is some kind of a conspiracy or malfunction or whatever the case may be.
I don't believe that Donald Trump believes that.
I think Donald Trump is lying when he says he thinks the election was rigged.
I think Giuliani is lying when he says it.
I think Carrie Lake is lying.
I think for them these are just excuses for losing an election.
What do you say to that?
Well, I say, Jimmy, no judge in the United States has looked at the evidence.
They've all kicked the can on standing.
No one has ever looked at the evidence based on merit.
And I'm just going to keep sounding the alarm until somebody looks at it.
We gave it to the Facebook fact checkers, Alan Duke.
He looked at it and he won't.
Now he just went away because he knows it was true.
I say to you, Jimmy, I'll give the evidence to you.
We'll come back two months later.
I'll pay for your cyber guy if the show can't afford it.
We'll help him check it out.
You know, you're getting a big audience tonight, so you could afford it.
Mike, you see that little girl with the overalls on?
That's our cyber guy.
That little girl with the overalls on, that's our cyber guy.
You're looking good, I knew you would.
How much has this crusade cost you personally, Mike?
Over 40 million, and that's counting building your great network you watch all the time, Jimmy Liddell TV, that's part of the cost.
I'm your number one fan, that's for sure.
There's no question about that.
My pillows used to be in Costco, they used to be in Walmart, they used to be in Macy's, Bed Bath & Beyond, et cetera.
Where the heck are they?
Hello?
Is anybody...
Where the heck is Mike?
Who?
Oh, my goodness.
It's another Mike Lindell.
Oh, no, no, not Jimmy.
It's Jimmy Crumble.
I can't handle it right now.
I don't got time for you.
I'm looking for the law offices of David Buster's.
Well, no, Mike.
David Buster's isn't a law firm.
It's like a Chuck E. Cheese for adults who enjoy wrestling.
Well, I'm being sued for $1.3 billion, and I need some representation.
So it's right here in the law.
Jekyll and Jehoshaphat!
How did I get in there?
What kind of dark magic is at play?
Mike, you agreed to be... Well, one of the Mikes agreed to be interviewed in a claw machine, so... I knew it!
It's a machine!
It's the antifa Chinese devil crazies!
And they trapped me inside!
Don't worry, you sweet boy.
I got a pillowcase full of quarters right here.
Here, try the machine.
Here, it's rigged.
Here, it's rigged.
It's just the animals.
They take credit cards.
They don't take pillowcases, Mike.
I'm sorry.
Self-defense.
It's just a self-defense technique.
OK, all right.
I'm not gonna use no card on these!
I'll get ya!
Don't worry me, I'll get ya!
It's a rigged machine!
The animals are falling!
You jammed it up!
The door's not gonna work!
I just need another bag of pillows!
You're winning!
You're winning!
You have another pillowcase full of quarters?
I eat all of my suppers out of vending machines!
You know that as much as I do!
Shields arise!
I'm coming for ya!
I'm gonna get you back in that ice hole real quick!
And smash this crab grabber to smithereens!
All right.
Don't hurt Mike.
All right.
Come on.
And security, please, get the other Michael Adele out of this.
Come on.
Get.
Mike, one more thing.
Have you met this guy, George Santos?
No.
What do you think of him?
Is that the guy that was just here?
No.
That's a different guy.
All right, Mike.
Well, thank you, Mike.
You know what?
I have to say, one thing about you is you are definitely committed.
And you should probably be committed, to be honest with you.
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Mike Lindell showed up.
Okay.
Thanks for having me on.
No problem.
No problem.
Okay.
So Mike, let's just jump right into it.
Are you still going on about the last election?
If you follow me, you would know that what I'm going on about is getting rid of the machines and getting to paper ballots.
And kind of like so many other countries around the world have outlawed and they get to paper ballots.
I want to have elections since, in the spring of 21, I went on Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Kimmel asked me, said, Mike, he goes, if your friend Donald Trump had been selected like you say Biden was, would you still be sounding the alarm?
By that time I already knew it wasn't about the one, it's what we have to have secure election.
That's what I've been about.
I think that's pretty reasonable.
I think paper ballots are important.
Right, absolutely.
17 countries have outlawed the machines.
Another about 30 countries have outlawed early voting, mail-in voting.
Here in the United States, we have the worst election platforms in the world.
And Democrats, remember, they wanted the machines gone for a long time.
These Uniparty Republicans that I fight every single day, including Robin Voss right here in Wisconsin, it's disgusting that they want to keep the machines.
So, does Donald Trump and his crew still support what you're doing, or have they distanced themselves a little bit from you?
As far as what?
No, he says it all the time.
Paper ballots, hand-counted.
He wants to get there.
No matter what happens, we have to get there.
So, look, if you say paper ballots, Anna and I agree.
It depends on the details.
No, no, no.
It depends on the details, right?
But we agree on recounts, hand recounts, etc.
Do you really think that that election was stolen in 2020, still after all this time, after all the courts said it wasn't, after there was no evidence?
Here's what I say.
The 2020 election will go down as the most important election in history, and here's why.
In November and December of 2020, I did my own investigation.
I went out and got voter rolls.
And what I seen, and I got them in every state and every county by the time it took about two, three months.
But what I noticed was people voted in all these states that didn't live there and counties.
And that disturbed me because I couldn't imagine in my own home state of Minnesota, hey, I get 5,000 people.
Hey, you guys, let's go and jump in Wisconsin, commit a crime.
People are genuinely good people, and I couldn't explain it.
It didn't make sense.
So then when I got evidence given to me on January 9th of 2021 that it was done by computers, that explained that you can do the power of numbers and something like that.
And since that time, do I believe it was taken then?
I believe it was taken then.
Yes, I do.
I believe it was stolen.
But I'm so glad that Donald Trump did not get put back in there, because it took three years.
We would have lost our country forever.
It took three years of what I've done, my team's on the ground, and the investigations into all the stuff that's been revealed.
What the Democrats, my own Senator Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris said, there's problems with these machines.
We've got to get rid of these computers.
All that's been exposed through CassVote records, which is under the Freedom of Information Act.
We all can request these.
We got them all, and almost every county was computer-manipulated one way or another.
But why no one else agrees?
Not just with Republicans.
Democrats, too.
I deal with most, I deal with Democrats on that, because they'll be more helpful.
I was in Georgia.
This lady got, in the summer of 22, three Democrats, this nice lady, her husband, she got zero votes in her own precinct.
Crooked Brad Rassenberger, the Secretary of State of Georgia, they actually had to quick look into it.
Oh, I'm sorry, you got 3,000 some votes.
She went from third to first.
Another Democrat, four counties over, she got 4,600 votes, but she wasn't on the ballot.
And these things, as we investigated, and right now in Georgia, they finally brought this judge, brought this last fall.
She was an Obama appointed judge.
She got brought this case, the curling case, against Crooked Brad Rassenburg, now the Secretary of State.
Can I say that on your show?
You can say it, because I... Hold on.
So anyway, but I'm going to finish explaining.
So find the case in the fall, in October.
The judge said, you know what?
These experts, says Alex Halderman, that he got to look inside the computers, and he says there's problems.
So we're going to push this forward.
And she said, if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
I got to take off my tinfoil hat on my show.
Jimmy Kimmel had it on there.
He said, why don't you put me to take it off?
But this case went to court on January 9th of this year.
The Halderman hacked into the machine in five minutes with a ballpoint pen in front of the judge.
And the judge now is sitting on that terroir.
One of the few cases in the United States where a judge looked at stuff based on merit.
And this isn't to overturn any election of 2020.
This is for me, what I'm doing now and what I've been focused on is get to paper ballots and count it, no matter what it takes or what has to get revealed.
We've got to get to where we have elections where everybody trusts them.
In Kansas, in the 2022 election, I was getting from my team, all these Democrat votes being flipped to Republican.
At the same time, down in Arizona, in Cary Lake, the machines 242 went bad.
Why are we using these?
If you have bad drinks in a car, you get rid of them.
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, no.
Anna's going to ask a question.
I just want to be clear to the audience.
No one else agrees with what Mike Wendell's saying.
Okay.
Do you hear that audience?
CNN, they agree with me.
Okay.
I'm just clear.
Okay.
CNN, they agree with me.
They believe in me.
Okay, I'm just clear.
Okay, go ahead.
Nobody agrees that we should go to paper ballots, Hank, count it.
No, no.
All the so-called facts you said about the Rafasa murder being third and then first and the votes switching.
No one else believes that.
Democrats don't believe that.
Republicans don't believe that.
Democrats who lost don't believe that.
Republicans who lost don't believe that.
I don't know why they...
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There have been some interesting developments during this convention, and as a successful business owner, I'm really curious what you think about it.
Because yesterday, the Teamsters president gave a giant speech.
He was the keynote speaker.
I was impressed by the speech.
To hear a pro-labor, pro-worker message at the Republican National Convention is pretty much unheard of.
And as a business owner, when you hear a leader of a massive union talk about taking corporations to task, talk about increasing taxes and all of that, what are your thoughts about that?
My thoughts, I look at the situation we're in now that doesn't make sense where the price of everything is going up and it's because of shipping costs.
And then you have open borders, you have these nonsensical things that don't help anybody either.
I'm talking about the people, not the party.
So I look at things, if anybody out there, whatever they're saying on the stage or whatever they're doing, if it's one thing to do what you're saying or saying what you're doing, well, I look at stuff in real time and go, if politicians make decisions and you look at it and you go, okay, who's that gonna help?
They have a hidden agenda and it's a very evil agenda.
Interesting.
That's where I'm at.
I look at things, I spent time, I was in Chicago, in the heart of Chicago a month ago, I invited 500 Democrats.
All of them are in there, and I was filming them, talking to them all day.
They'll talk to me.
They don't make me as evil.
I was a former crack addict.
I've said who I was.
I'm very open of who I am.
And I'm the American dream on steroids, to take that and for the grace of God, and get rid of those addictions.
And I thought my calling would go around helping everybody out of addiction to Jesus Christ.
And sadly, this election stuff comes along.
Do you think I'd still be sounding the alarm?
They're going, hey, we got to overturn the 2020 election.
No!
That ship's sailed.
What it is, is I want to get to paper ballots hand-counted because I know the dangers.
Elon Musk... But do you want to pay more in taxes?
Huh?
As a business owner?
I believe there could be different taxes.
You know, for me, I have my own thing.
I believe there should be an internet tax.
You have box stores that pay all this stuff.
They pay for everything.
And the internet you have, including my company, you've got all this stuff that you can put an internet tax out there.
Then you're taxing these big things like your Amazons of the world.
These platforms that don't pay anything for the internet to use the internet.
The box stores, they have to all pay for rent and property tax and all these things.
If you did that, the price of our goods would come down.
They would come down.
You think they'd come down, really?
I think they would if we had an internet tax.
At least you'd level the playing field for our box stores.
But, you know, I just I don't want people to miss it.
So you're saying we're done with the 2020 election.
I have said that.
If you've been following me, I haven't said one thing about overturning the 2020 since the spring of 21.
Okay, all right, we're clear.
Yes, I want to say this.
My biggest attack on my pillow, you know, I've been sued for billions, okay, billions upon billions.
A company, employee-owned company, made in the USA.
Everything we want is the American dream.
They have been sued.
They did nothing.
Their CEO is out there going, hey, we need to go to paper balance hand count.
I came up with a plan last August.
To do just that.
And since then, I've been attacked more than I was in 21.
Every single day, d-bank, d-platform, d-this, and you know what?
We're getting through it by the grace of God.
But they, you know, just like now, can I say my new plan right now?
I want everyone in this country to request their mail-in ballot.
Don't open it, and when you go to vote, if they say you already voted, you say, no, I didn't.
This is called identity theft, like if I'd steal your identity.
And this isn't a Democrat or Republican thing.
This is a people thing.
I have so many people, Democrats and Republicans, that went to vote.
They said, I'm sorry, you already voted for her.
It happened three months ago in Texas.
It was on the news.
A district attorney Democrat went to vote, and they said, I'm sorry, you already voted.
She goes, no, I didn't.
She can't prove it.
But Mike, you know, that can happen in a very odd case.
And that's why I made the news, because it was so odd, right?
No, it's because she had a platform.
She had a platform.
But every court that you've gone to and that Trump has gone to and that all of you guys
have gone to says there's absolutely no evidence of wide scale fraud.
He's putting judges that were appointed by Donald Trump.
Let's talk about Wisconsin here, okay?
And in 21, the Robin Watts, the biggest blocker I ever told you about,
he's the Speaker of the House here in Wisconsin.
He ordered an investigation.
He hired Michael Gabelman, an ex-Supreme Court Judge of Wisconsin.
He did a year-long investigation, and at the end of the investigation, he had a list of all this fraud that happened in Wisconsin.
Robin Voss said, I know there was widespread fraud, but I can't do anything until a court rules on it.
Two weeks later, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin came out and said there was all this fraud, and Robin Voss went into hiding.
That's fact.
It's in the news.
It's in the news.
It's fact.
Robin Wasp is one of the biggest blockers to free our elects to get us to paper ballots.
How do you explain Republican candidates winning in down ballot races in 2020 when, you know?
No, I'm not going to talk about Republican.
The Republicans in the primary, that's where they take all the candidates they want.
No, no, I'm talking about in general races for congressional seats, right?
General races for congressional seats.
You know what I believe in?
The unit party.
This isn't a Democrat or Republican thing.
You have never heard me badmouth the Democrats.
If you follow me, you know who I badmouth?
Uniparty Republicans, every single day, because they block me.
I go into red states, Alabama.
Here, I'll give you an example.
Alabama, South Dakota, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas.
They all block.
You'd think I'd be able to go in there and go, oh, you guys are Republicans.
You should get rid of these machines and get paper, right?
First one I went to was John Merrill, Secretary of State in the summer of 21.
I went into Alabama, paid 40 grand for their voter rolls.
I go, John, do you realize, and this is right out of their machines, John, do you realize that there's 4,660 people that voted here in Alabama that are over 110 years old?
He looked at me and says, well, we live pretty good here in Alabama.
I thought he was making a joke.
He didn't even want to look into it, you know?
So look, Mike throws out a lot of facts.
I don't wanna say facts.
Mike throws out a lot of- Talking points.
Talking points, etc.
Okay, and so I want you to know, look, so we're not gonna know about whether the local Alabama guy you talked to actually said that or didn't say that.
And so there's no way that I could instantly fact check you on that.
I agree, I agree.
Okay, but in terms of the courts that look at the Trump- Trump and his allies went to 61 different courts.
They lost every single time.
You claim Democrats and Republicans are losing because they got cheated, but they're not complaining that they got cheated.
And so I don't know why they would give up their power voluntarily.
So Mike, if you say verify the vote, everybody agrees, right?
But once you start making allegations about things that are not provable, You have not heard me say anything about the 2020 election since the summer of 21.
I have sat out there and say, melt down the machines, turn them into prison bars, and I've been after every uniparty Republican.
When I talk about the 2020 election, when I talk about that, that is the most important because it's going to manifest and get us to a safe, that we should be the example to the world of good elections.
Democrats Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, in the movie Kill Chain in 2018.
I know these guys.
You can go watch it right now.
All of them said, we've got to get rid of the machines because we can't rely on that.
Our government deemed our election critical infrastructure.
We've got to treat it as such.
I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican.
We've got to treat it like that.
By the way, let me ask you one last thing.
Back then, did I want election overturned to Donald Trump?
Absolutely, for what I had seen.
But, you know what, now that I know now, I'm so happy that didn't happen.
Because I had to find out over three years, hey, these are critical.
We've got to go to paper ballots.
I talked to France, Germany.
I was on the phone with the UK in their recent election.
We have learned what the best practices are, and we've got it up.
We've got it up on my site.
Here's where it is.
I know I'm not making this a partisan thing, but you know, some of the same Republican lawmakers who were on your side about the election allegedly being stolen from Trump, why do you think that when they had the opportunity to vote on legislation to enhance our election security, they all voted no?
I don't even think they looked at it, to be honest with you.
I think you have a lot of fear out there.
Judges have fear.
Everybody has fear.
When you talk about machines and stuff, here's why.
On February 4th of 2021, Smartmatic sued Fox News.
That started lawfare in this country that hadn't been done since 1792.
All the conservative media, Fox News, Newsmax, Salem Media, they all cowered down.
They're like weather channels that won't report tornadoes or hurricanes.
So that happened.
Who do I rely on?
As you know, all my friends call me.
The CNN that you see, follow me.
I'm friends with all these guys.
They attack me, but I welcome that because I can get the word out.
We got to go to Paper Ballot.
You know what I've been doing over here, over there at the convention?
In the news today, you can look it up, USA Today said, every question asked Mike Lindell.
All he kept saying for the answer, we got to go to Paper Ballot.
All the other stuff to me is a distraction.
So when you ask me about what they said on the stage, the Republican Party, that part don't matter.
What I want to do is get to a free and fair election and save the American dream.
Last question about the elections.
So Donald Trump, when he wants the Republicans to do something in Congress, is very good at it.
He recently blocked the immigration bill that they had already agreed to.
The Republicans actually had proposed it, and he said, no, take down your own bill, and they did.
So why do you think that he never pressed Republicans in Congress to actually do election reform?
When, theoretically- We didn't know enough, and if you guys know- You can do it now.
There were so many deviations that happened in the 2020, where people, illegally, Secretary of States across our country, both Democrat and Republican, made decisions based on an anomaly in history, because legislatures make the laws, not the Secretary of State.
So the stuff they did then, right or wrong, Some of them did it, maybe for other reasons, but they did it because we were in an anomaly.
Those things need to be looked at and we go back to where we were.
We don't have that stuff now.
Why are we using it?
You're going to get it all different.
There's two states that wanted to go to texting your ballot in and emailing it.
Which states?
Where would we be?
This was done in Utah and Oregon in a couple counties.
They wanted people to vote by text?
By texting and email.
All of our UOCAVA votes are by email now.
You know that, right?
I don't know that.
I would have to fact check.
No, that's true.
You can still do a 45-day mail-in ballot, but Obama- Okay, so that didn't answer the Trump question.
Here's the question.
The question is- That didn't answer the Trump question at all.
The question is, right now, what's all been revealed is You know, when he gets in and he said himself, we need to go to same day voting paper ballots.
You know what I've told him?
I said, you know what?
I'm, I know I'm fighting them, uh, machine companies and what they, and I call it the unit party globalists out there.
I'm fighting that, not the Democrat party, the Republican party.
I think it's, it's deeper than that.
I said, and this is their tool for election.
So in order for him, if he got, if he gets in and he says, Hey, we got to go to same day voting.
You've got to have the people behind it.
All people.
That's what my plan, and I'm telling, I'm meeting in Chicago.
I'm going to the DNC.
I'm going to go there.
I want to go there and say, hey, we all need to grab our mail-in ballots.
And then when you go to vote, if they say you voted, that's identity theft.
Then everybody's going to be upset with that in your county.
And so, but hey, my Amy and Joe, they went down to vote and they said they already voted and they had the ballot.
Then it will get looked into.
So we all agree on a safe and secure election going forward, going forward.
All right, can I tell you something funny?
So I wanted to fill out my mail-in ballot, but it ran out of time.
So I took it in, just like you want, in California.
You know what they said?
Mike Lindell has already voted for you.
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
No, okay, no.
I told the CNN guys I won't lie, right?
Okay, so no, by the way, that did happen except the last part, obviously.
They're like, no, it shows that you didn't vote yet.
So yes, hand it in and you'll be able to vote.
So it went perfectly fine, even in your scenario.
I'm just curious.
For example, so many people got there, even in the news and recall, they got there.
I was out there then and they went all the way in to vote.
They said, you've already voted.
Now they sit there and they're like calling him a liar and they call him a liar and they
go, no, I didn't vote.
But they said, we'll fill out a provisional ballot.
By the way, California has some great laws nobody knows about when it comes to the the
handicap with the hat, because that's what that's the excuse they use to keep the machine.
In California, their law was very good.
It's like, when you and I have a notary, there's so many different kinds of handicap.
And if I come in, I got a sign, you know, this is okay if this person sees my vote.
It's like signing an order, you give them permission.
No matter what your handicap is, then you're covered for him to be able to see who you voted for.
Or you bring it, you know.
Okay, so for a while it looked like my pillow was going bankrupt.
Did it not happen?
Is it still in business?
We had our biggest week of the year last week, and that's happened last year when I announced the plan.
American Express, never been late in my life.
They went away.
We got debanked, demerchants served.
Our vendors, they cut credit back.
So we had a $25 million squish.
In other words, if I had 120-day credit with a sub-product from overseas to get, They squished it down to 30 days.
I became the bank for millions upon millions of dollars.
Then other vendors that were worried jumped on board.
It's through a lot of prayer that we've gotten this far, that we got through it all.
But the media grabs that, and I don't understand why they attack a company like MyPillow, the American dream.
I used to be the media's darling.
Mike, you walk across the street, how many more employees are you hiring?
While you're doing so much for addiction, so much for the veterans, so much for the inner city.
I had a foundation, all I did was pour money into everywhere.
Money's not a thing that I want to help people.
When I did that, then in the summer of 16, I met Donald Trump.
I never voted in my life, I was a granddaddy.
I met Donald Trump, I said, hey, this guy, I talked to his employees, they said, good man, good leader, and I talked to him.
One-on-one, he asked me about my pill and being in the country, and how's it working out.
And it was just a one-on-one of talking to a businessman.
Then he asked about, I said, you know, I used to be a crack addict.
I had the Lindell Recovery Network.
And he said, I'm going to stop the drugs for him.
So I went all in for him.
And I did a press release.
All of a sudden, the media hated me.
In fact, they called me the biggest drug dealer in Minneapolis.
And my drug dealer stuck up for me and said he never dealt a drug in his life.
He tried to rid Minneapolis of drugs by doing them all, you know?
Okay, alright.
So with my point being, then the Better Business Bureau took my pillow from an A-plus to an F. It's still an F. That's just fantastic.
I got attacked for what I believe was a great, great candidate.
Yeah.
And that's wrong.
You know, I actually have a follow-up question about that because, you know, you have been willing to sacrifice almost everything, right?
Everything.
Your business, your reputation, all of that to help Trump.
You know, you believe that the election was... That's not true.
You're way in there.
Well, I mean, your support of Trump is what kind of propelled you to- No.
Let me want to get rid of their machines.
The last year has been the biggest attack on me in history and my company.
Why?
I don't sit out there and say, don't you think everyone says, well, the 2020 election, that ship sailed.
It's because I want to get rid of the machines.
There's a lot of power behind it.
I get it.
And you want to get rid of the machines.
That's what I'm saying.
Let me ask the question then.
So, there have been reports that the Trump family has kind of like distanced themselves from you.
Nobody said that.
Really?
When was the last time you spoke to them?
I was with our Great World President about a week ago.
I spent two hours with him down in Mar-a-Lago.
I said, we're friends.
When I heard about this assassination attempt, I was actually in Miami and I couldn't get to the truth.
I was crying, bawling, because he's my friend.
It wasn't like, oh, what's going to happen to the world?
He's my friend and he's a good man.
That's what it was.
And I was praying for him on the plane.
So you guys do talk regularly and he consults with you?
Talk regularly as friends.
When people say, oh, did you talk about this?
No, we talk about we're friends.
I don't have an agenda, and he knows that.
Yeah.
You know, we encourage, he's always optimistic.
I've told him, you know, he worries about our country.
He says there's destruction that's going on.
I said, you know, God's got his hand in all this.
You look up patience.
You don't see a picture of me and probably not him either, right?
But I said, this is on God's time, not ours.
When we get to a great place for our country, which I believe we have to have secure elections, I don't care who's in power, it doesn't matter.
And we get to that great place, we're going to look back and say, all of it had to happen just the way it did.
God's given us grace right now for such a time as this.
And our end goal is obviously everybody to get to heaven.
I think people don't look to God when things are going good.
They look to it when things aren't going so good and people are praying.
I've been praying for you, you know.
Oh, well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
And I didn't know you were still doing pillow talk with Trump, but that's good.
That's interesting.
Okay.
So one last thing.
He's a very good friend of mine.
So one last thing.
So you, you, you centered your life around prayer a lot and faith.
So, did that start with the fellowship, or did you meet the folks at the fellowship, the family, and the prayer breakfast, etc., after you got released?
No, here's what happened.
In January 16, 2009, I prayed.
You know, I had all these addictions, crack cocaine, alcohol, cigarette, you name it.
I prayed to God that I would wake up and never have the desire again.
And I woke up and it was gone.
But it was such a transformation.
I thought that's the day I got saved.
I look at things as mathematical odds to prove that God exists.
If you see something that's a one in a million, or a one in a billion, or this is impossible, when do you add it together and consider it a miracle?
And things started happening to me all the way up to February 18th, ready for this?
2017, when I got on my knees and got a full surrender to Jesus Christ.
Now, I had one thing I couldn't do.
I could never talk in front of people.
You can see me on a commercial, but here I am a month later.
You're talking now.
Yeah, he can't stop you.
You know why?
I had fear of rejection.
You don't get rejected if you don't talk.
I had fear of public speaking to people I couldn't talk to you to.
And a month after I got saved there in the U.S.
State Stadium in front of 50,000 people, they told a little bit of my story of being this crack cocaine addict and getting saved.
I have to lead 50,000 people in prayer.
I didn't even know how to pray at that time, you know?
How do you feel about, you know, the Republican Party kind of poking fun of Hunter Biden?
I think it's horrible.
Anybody poking fun of anything of the Bidens, you know, I mean, you've never heard me, you know, the shirt that said, let's go, Brandon.
I wouldn't even take pictures of people that have that.
Oh, wow.
No, absolutely not.
I mean, you know, this isn't about Democrats and Republicans.
This is about us as people.
You know, Hunter Biden had a terrible addiction like I did, you know.
In fact, I heard someone talk to him and said, you know, Mike, Hunter Biden actually says you're one of the people on the right that he really likes.
Are you also into modern art now?
A Ukrainian gas expert at all?
No?
No, okay.
I hope he really did get saved because the only way I have my addiction platform, lindorecoverynetwork.org,
getting off all your addictions is just a bonus.
Getting to our real Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is where it leads you to.
And I hope Hunter Biden got there.
I pray he did.
It's people saying it's because he met this gal or whatever.
And you know, hopefully that leads him to completely stay off and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, he met a gal, you met a guy.
The guy you met is named Jesus Christ.
That's exactly right.
I thought you were going to say, I love this guy.
I'll tell you what, I come in with a whole different attitude.
And he promised me, you kept your promise.
He didn't use God's name in vain today.
I didn't swear.
We got along.
You must have seen when I called that lawyer or something right on TV.
And I said the a-hole thing.
Remember that?
He didn't call my pillows lumpy.
He's okay.
All right, Mike, listen.
We obviously just ran a lot, but I appreciate the conversation.
I appreciate you being here.
Thank you.
It's good to have this conversation.
I thank you both.
You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox?
My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
He is the greatest.
My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
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