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You with the pillows on Fox?
My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
My pillow guy, Mike Lindell.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
Mike Lindell showed up.
Okay!
Thanks for having me on!
No problem, no problem.
Okay, so Mike, let's just jump right into it.
Are you still going on about the last election?
If you follow me, you would know that what I'm going on about is getting rid of the machines and getting to paper ballots, and counting like so many other countries around the world have outlawed, and they get to paper ballots.
I want to have elections since, in the spring of 21, I went on Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Kimmel asked me, said, Mike, he goes, if your friend Donald Trump had been selected like you say Biden was, would you still be sounding the alarm?
By that time, I already knew it wasn't about who won.
It's what we have to have secure election.
That's what I've been about.
I think that's pretty reasonable.
I think paper ballots are important.
Right, absolutely.
17 countries have outlawed the machines.
Another about 30 countries have outlawed early voting, mail-in voting.
Here in the United States, we have the worst election platforms in the world.
And Democrats, remember, they wanted the machines gone for a long time.
These Uniparty Republicans that I fight every single day, including Robin Voss right here in Wisconsin, it's disgusting that they want to keep the machines.
So, does Donald Trump and his crew still support what you're doing, or have they distanced themselves a little bit from you?
As far as what?
No, he says it all the time, paper ballots, hand counting, he wants to get there, he wants whether, no matter what happens, we have to get there.
So look, if you say paper ballots, Anna and I agree, it depends on the details.
No, no, no, it depends on the details, right?
But we agree on recounts, hand recounts, etc.
Do you really think that that election was stolen in 2020, still after all this time, after all the courts said it wasn't, after there was no evidence?
Here's what I say.
The 2020 election will go down as the most important election in history, and here's why.
In November and December of 2020, I did my own investigation.
I went out and got voter rolls.
And what I've seen, and I got them in every state and every county by the time it took about two, three months.
But what I noticed was people voted in all these states that didn't live there and counties.
And that disturbed me because I couldn't imagine in my own home state of Minnesota, hey, I get 5,000 people.
Hey, you guys, let's go and jump in Wisconsin and commit a crime.
People are genuinely good people, and I couldn't explain it.
It didn't make sense.
So then when I got evidence given to me on January 9th of 2021 that it was done by computers, that explained that you could do the power of numbers and something like that.
And since that time, do I believe it was taken then?
I believe it was taken then.
Yes, I do.
I believe it was still.
But I'm so glad that Donald Trump did not get put back in there, because it took three years.
We would have lost our country forever.
It took three years of what I've done, my team's on the ground, and the investigations into all the stuff that's been revealed.
What the Democrats, my own Senator Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris said, there's problems with these machines.
We've got to get rid of these computers.
All that's been exposed through cast vote records, which is under the Freedom of Information Act.
We all can request these.
We got them all and there was almost every county was computer manipulated one way or another.
And why no one else agrees.
Not just with Republicans, Democrats too.
I deal with most, I deal with Democrats on that because they'll be more helpful.
I was in Georgia, this lady, in the summer of 22, three Democrats, this nice lady, her husband, she got zero votes in her own precinct.
Crooked Brad Rassenberger, the Secretary of State of Georgia, they actually had a quick look into it.
Oh, I'm sorry, you got 3,000-some votes.
She went from third to first.
Another Democrat, four counties over, she got 4,600 votes, but she wasn't on the ballot.
And these things, as we investigated, and right now in Georgia, they finally brought this judge, brought this last fall.
She was an Obama-appointed judge.
She got brought this case, the curling case, against Crooked Brad Rassenberger, now the Secretary of State.
Can I say that on your show?
You can say it, because I- Hold on.
Yeah, hold on.
So anyway, but I'm going to finish explaining.
So find the case in the fall, in October, The judge said, you know what?
These experts, this Alex Halderman, that he got to look inside the computers and he says, there's problems.
So we're gonna push this forward.
And she said, if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
I got to take off my tinfoil hat on my show.
Jimmy Kimmel had it on there.
He said, well, you don't put me taking off?
But this case went to court on January 9th of this year.
The Halderman hacked into the machine in five minutes with a ballpoint pen in front of the judge.
And the judge now is sitting on that to rule on.
One of the few cases in the United States where a judge looked at stuff based on merit.
And this isn't to overturn any election of 2020.
This is for me, what I'm doing now and what I've been focused on is get to paper ballots and count it, no matter what it takes or what has to get revealed.
We've got to get to where we have elections where everybody trusts them.
In Kansas, in the 2022 election I was getting from my team, all these Democrat votes being flipped to Republican.
At the same time, down in Arizona, in Cary Lake, the machines, 242 of them went bad.
Why are we using these?
If you have bad brakes on a car, you get rid of them.
Okay, hold on.
Anna's going to ask the question.
I just want to be clear to the audience.
No one else agrees with what Mike Wendell's saying.
Okay.
Okay, I'm just clear, okay, go ahead.
Nobody agrees that we should go to paper ballots, Hank, count it.
No, no, all the so-called facts you said about the Rafferty murder being third and then first and then both switching, no one else believes that.
Democrats don't believe that, Republicans don't believe that, Democrats who lost don't believe that, Republicans who lost don't believe that, I don't know why they- Thanks for watching.
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There have been some interesting developments during this convention.
And, you know, as a successful business owner, I'm really curious what you think about it.
Because yesterday, the Teamsters president gave a giant speech.
He was the keynote speaker.
I was impressed by the speech.
To hear a pro-labor, pro-worker message at the Republican National Convention is pretty much unheard of.
And as a business owner, when you hear A leader of a massive union talk about taking corporations to task, talk about increasing taxes and all of that.
What are your thoughts about that?
My thoughts, I look at the situation we're in now that doesn't make sense where the price of everything is going up and it's because of shipping costs.
And then you have open borders, you have these nonsensical things that don't help anybody either.
I'm talking about the people, not the party.
So I look at things, if anybody out there, whatever they're saying on the stage or whatever they're doing, if it's one thing to, you know, do what you're saying or saying what you're doing, well, I look at stuff in real time and go, if politicians make decisions and you look at it and you go, okay, who's that going to help?
They have a hidden agenda and it's a very evil agenda.
That's where I'm at.
I look at things.
I spent time, I was in Chicago, in the heart of Chicago a month ago.
I invited 500 Democrats.
All of them were in there, and I was filming them, talking to them all day.
They'll talk to me.
They don't make me as evil.
I was a former crack addict.
I've said who I was.
I'm very open of who I am.
And I'm the American dream on steroids, to take that and for the grace of God, and get rid of those addictions.
And I thought my calling would go around helping everybody out of addiction to Jesus Christ.
And sadly this election stuff comes along.
I would, you think I'd still be sounding the alarm?
They're going, hey, we got to overturn the 2020.
No, that ship sailed.
What it is, is I want to get to paper ballots hand counting because I know the dangers.
Elon Musk- Do you want to pay more in taxes?
Huh?
As a business owner?
I believe there could be different taxes.
For me, I have my own thing.
I believe there should be an internet tax.
You have box stores that pay all this stuff.
They pay for everything.
And the internet, including my company, you've got all this stuff that you can put an internet tax on.
Then you're taxing these big things like your Amazons of the world.
These platforms that don't pay anything for the internet to use the internet.
The box stores, they have to all pay for But you know, I just I don't want people to miss it.
all these things. If you did that, the price of our goods would come down. They would come
down.
You think they'd come down, really?
I think they would if we had an internet tax. At least you'd level the playing field for
our box stores.
But I just I don't want people to miss it. So you're saying we're done with the 2020
election.
I have said that.
If you've been following me, I haven't said one thing about overturning the 20th since the spring of 21.
I want to say that my biggest attack on my pillow, you know, I've been sued for billions, okay?
Billions upon billions.
A company, an employee-owned company, made in the USA.
Everything we want is the American dream.
They have been sued.
They did nothing.
Their CEO is out there going, hey, we need to go to paper ballots and count.
I came up with a plan last August.
To do just that.
And since then, I've been attacked more than I was in 21.
Every single day, de-bank, de-platform, de-this, and you know what?
We're getting through it by the grace of God.
But they, you know, just like now, can I say my new plan right now?
I want everyone in this country to request their mail-in ballot.
Don't open it, and when you go to vote, if they say you already voted, you say, no, I didn't.
This is called identity theft, like if I'd steal your identity.
And this isn't a Democrat and Republican thing.
This is a people thing.
I have so many people, Democrats and Republicans, that went to vote.
They said, I'm sorry, you already voted for her.
It happened three months ago in Texas.
It was on the news.
A district attorney Democrat went to vote, and they said, I'm sorry, you already voted.
She goes, no, I did.
She can't prove it.
Well, Mike, that can happen in a very odd case.
And that's why I made the news, because it was so odd, right?
No, it's because she had a platform.
She had a platform.
But every court that you've gone to and that Trump has gone to and that all of you guys have gone to,
says there's absolutely no evidence of wide-scale fraud.
No, no. No, no. Let's talk about Wisconsin here, okay? And in 21, the Robin Watts,
the biggest blocker I ever told you about, he's the Speaker of the House here in Wisconsin.
He ordered an investigation.
He hired Michael Gabelman, an ex-Supreme Court Judge of Wisconsin.
He did a year-long investigation, and at the end of the investigation, he had a list of all this fraud that happened in Wisconsin.
Robin Voss said, I know there was widespread fraud, but I can't do anything until a court rules on it.
Two weeks later, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin came out and said there was all this fraud, and Robin Voss went into hiding.
That's fact.
It's in the news.
It's in the news.
It's fact.
Robin Blossom is one of the biggest blockers to free our elects to get us to paper ballots.
How do you explain Republican candidates winning in downed ballot races in 2020 when, you know?
No, I'm not going to talk about Republican.
I mean, the Republicans in the primary, that's where they take out the candidates they want.
You know what I believe in?
The unit party.
This isn't a Democrat or Republican thing.
You have never heard me badmouth the Democrats.
is for congressional seats, right? General races for congressional seats. You know what I believe
in? The unit party. This isn't a Democrat or Republican thing. You have never heard me bad
mouth the Democrats. If you follow me, you know who I bad mouth? Unit party Republicans every
single day because they block me.
I go into red states, Alabama.
Here, I'll give you an example.
Alabama, South Dakota, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas.
They all block.
You'd think I'd be able to go in there and go, oh, you guys are Republicans.
You should get rid of these machines and get paper, right?
First one I went to was John Merrill, Secretary of State in the summer of 21.
I went into Alabama, paid 40 grand for their voter rolls.
I go, John, do you realize, and this is right out of their machines, John, do you realize that there's 4,660 people that voted here in Alabama that are over 110 years old?
He looked at me and says, well, we live pretty good here in Alabama.
I thought he was making a joke.
He didn't even want to look into it, you know?
So look, Mike throws out a lot of facts.
I don't wanna say facts.
No, no, no, no.
Mike throws out a lot of- Talking points.
Talking points, etc.
Okay, and so I want you to know, look, so we're not gonna know about whether the local Alabama guy you talked to actually said that or didn't say that.
And so there's no way that I could instantly fact check you on that.
I agree, I agree.
Okay, but in terms of the courts that look at the Trump- Trump and his allies went to 61 different courts.
They lost every single time.
You claim Democrats and Republicans are losing because they got cheated, but they're not complaining that they got cheated.
And so I don't know why they would give up their power voluntarily.
So Mike, if you say verify the vote, everybody agrees, right?
But once you start making allegations about things that are not provable, You have not heard me say anything about the 2020 election since the summer of 21.
I have sat out there and say, melt down the machines, turn them into prison bars, and I've been after every uniparty Republican.
When I talk about the 2020 election, when I talk about that, that is the most important.
Because it's going to manifest and get us to a safe, we should be the example to the world of good elections.
Democrats, Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, in the movie Kill Chain in 2018.
I know these guys, you can go watch it right now.
All of them said, we've got to get rid of the machines because we can't rely on that.
Our government deemed our election critical infrastructure.
We got to treat it as such.
I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican, we've got to treat it that way.
By the way, let me ask you one last thing about that.
Back then, did I want election overturn to Donald Trump?
Absolutely, for what I had seen.
But, you know what?
Now that I know now, I'm so happy that didn't happen because I had to find out over three years, hey, these are critical.
We've got to go to paper ballots.
I talked to France, Germany.
I was on the phone with the UK in their recent election.
We have learned what the best practices are, and we've got it up.
We've got it up on my site.
Here's where it is.
I know I'm not making this a partisan thing, but you know, some of the same Republican lawmakers who were on your side about the election allegedly being stolen from Trump, why do you think that when they had the opportunity to vote on legislation to enhance our election security, they all voted no?
I don't even think they looked at it, to be honest with you.
I think you have a lot of fear out there.
Judges have fear.
Everybody has fear.
When you talk about machines and stuff, here's why.
On February 4th of 2021, Smartmatic sued Fox News.
That started lawfare in this country that hadn't been done since 1792.
All the conservative media, Fox News, Newsmax, Salem Media, they all cowered down.
They're like weather channels that won't report tornadoes or hurricanes.
So that happened.
Who do I rely on?
As you know, all my friends call me.
The CNN that you see, follow me.
I'm friends with all these guys.
They attack me, but I welcome that because I can get the word out.
We got to go to Paper Ballot.
You know what I've been doing over here, over there at the convention?
In the news today, you can look it up, USA Today said, every question asked Mike Lindell.
All he kept saying for the answer, we got to go to Paper Ballot.
All the other stuff to me is a distraction.
So when you ask me about what they said on the stage, the Republican Party, that part don't matter.
What I want to do is get to a free and fair election and save the American dream.
Last question about the elections.
So Donald Trump, when he wants the Republicans to do something in Congress, is very good at it.
He recently blocked the immigration bill that they had already agreed to.
The Republicans actually had proposed it, and he said, no, take down your own bill, and they did.
So why do you think that he never pressed Republicans in Congress To actually do election reform.
Right.
When, theoretically- This legislation didn't ensure paper ballots, for instance.
We didn't know enough, and if you guys know- You can do it now.
There were so many deviations that happened in the 2020, where people, illegally, Secretary of States across our country, both Democrat and Republican, made decisions based on an anomaly in history, because legislatures make the laws, not the Secretary of State.
So the stuff they did then, right or wrong, Some of them did it, maybe for other reasons, but they did it because we were in an anomaly.
Those things need to be looked at and we need to go back to where we were.
We don't have that stuff now.
Why are we using it?
You're going to get it all different.
There's two states that wanted to go to texting your ballot in and emailing it.
Which states?
Where would we be?
This was done in Utah and Oregon in a couple counties.
They wanted people to vote by text?
I don't know that.
I would have to fact check that.
No, that's true.
That's true.
You can still do a 45-day mail-in ballot, but Obama- Okay, so that didn't answer the Trump question.
Here's the question.
The question is- That didn't answer the Trump question at all.
The question is, right now, what's all been revealed is You know, when he gets in and he said himself, we need to go to the same day voting paper ballots.
You know what I've told him?
I said, you know what?
I'm, I know I'm fighting them, the machine companies and what they, and I call it the unit party globalists out there.
I'm fighting that.
Not the Democrat party, the Republican party.
I think it's, it's deeper than that.
I said, and this is their tool for election.
So in order for him, if he got, if he gets in and he says, Hey, we got to go to same day voting, you've got to have the people behind it.
All people.
That's what my plan, and I'm telling, I'm meeting in Chicago.
I'm going to the DNC.
I'm going to go there.
I want to go there and say, hey, we all need to grab our mail-in ballots.
And then when you go to vote, if they say you voted, that's identity theft.
Then everybody's going to be upset with that in your county.
And so, hey, my Amy and Joe, they went down to vote and they said they already voted and they have the ballot.
Then it will get looked into.
So we all agree on a safe and secure election going forward, going forward.
Alright, can I tell you something funny?
So, I wanted to fill out my mail-in ballot, but it ran out of time, so I took it in, just like you want, in California.
You know what they said?
Mike Lindell has already voted for you.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Okay, so no, by the way, that did happen, except the last part, obviously.
They're like, oh no, it shows that you didn't vote yet.
So yes, hand it in and you'll be able to vote.
So it went perfectly fine, even in your scenario.
I'm just curious.
So many people got there, even in the news and recall, they got there.
I was out there then, and they went all the way in to vote.
They said, you've already voted.
Now they sit there and they're like calling him a liar.
And they call him a liar and they go, no, I didn't vote.
But they said, we'll fill out a provisional ballot.
By the way, California has some great laws nobody knows about when it comes to the handicapped, what they have, because that's the excuse they use to keep the machine.
In California, their law was very good.
It's like when you and I have a notary, there's so many different kinds of handicapped.
Okay, so for a while it looked like my pillow was going bankrupt.
Did it not happen?
person sees my vote it's like signing an order you give him permission no matter
what your handicap is then you're covered for him to be able to see who you voted for
or you bring it you know. Okay so for a while it looked like my pillow was going bankrupt.
Did it not happen? Is it still in business? We had our biggest week of the year last week.
And that's happened last year when I announced the plan.
American Express, never been late in my life.
They went away.
We got D-Bank, D-Merchant Server.
Our vendors, they cut credit back.
So we had a $25 million splash.
In other words, if I had 120-day credit with a sub-product from overseas to get, They switched it down to 30 days.
I became the bank for millions upon millions of dollars.
Then other vendors that were worried jumped on board.
It's through a lot of prayer that we've gotten this far, that we got through it all.
But the media grabs that, and I don't understand why they attack a company like MyPillow, the American dream.
I used to be the media's darling.
Mike, you walk across the street, how many more employees are you hiring?
While you're doing so much for addiction, so much for the veterans, so much for the inner city.
I had a foundation, all I did was pour money into everywhere.
Money's not a thing that I want to help people.
When I did that, then in the summer of 16, I met Donald Trump.
I never voted in my life, I was a grad guy.
I met Donald Trump, I said, hey, this guy, I talked to his employees, they said, good man, good leader, and I talked to him.
One-on-one, he asked me about my pill and being in the country, and how's it working out.
And it was just a one-on-one of talking to a businessman.
Then he asked about, I said, you know, I used to be a crack addict.
I had the Lindell Recovery Network.
And he said, I'm going to stop the drugs for him.
So I went all in for him.
And I did a press release.
All of a sudden, the media hated me.
In fact, they called me the biggest drug dealer in Minneapolis.
And my drug dealer stuck up for me and said he never dealt a drug in his life.
He tried to rid Minneapolis of drugs by doing them all, you know?
Okay, all right.
So with my point being, then the Better Business Bureau took my pillow from an A-plus to an F. It's still an F. That's just fantastic.
I got attacked for what I believe was a great, great candidate, and that's wrong.
You know, I actually have a follow-up question about that, because, you know, you have been willing to sacrifice almost everything, right?
Everything.
Your business, your reputation, all of that, to help Trump.
You know, you believe that the election was... No, that's not true.
You're way in there.
Well, I mean, your support of Trump is what kind of propelled you to- No, let me want to get rid of- See, the last year has been the biggest attack on me in history and my company.
Why?
I don't sit out there and say, don't you think everyone says, well, the 2020 election, that ship sailed.
It's because I want to get rid of the machines.
There's a lot of power behind it.
I get it.
And you want to get rid of the machines.
Let me ask the question then.
So, there have been reports that the Trump family has kind of like distanced themselves from you.
Is that- No, they've said that.
Really?
When was the last time you spoke to them?
I was with our great world president about a week ago.
I spent two hours with him down in Mar-a-Lago.
I said, we're friends.
When I heard about this assassination attempt, I was actually in Miami and I couldn't get to the truth.
I was crying, bawling because he's my friend.
It wasn't like, oh, what's going to happen to the world?
He's my friend and he's a good man.
That's what it was.
And I was praying for him on the plane.
That's what it was.
So you guys do talk regularly and he consults with you?
Yeah.
We talk regularly as friends.
When people say, oh, did you talk about this?
No, we talk about we're friends.
I don't have an agenda and he knows that.
Yeah.
You know, we encourage, he's always optimistic.
I've told him, you know, he worries about our country.
He says, there's destruction that's going on.
I said, you know, God's got his hand in all this.
You look up patience, you don't see a picture of me and probably not him either, right?
But I said this is on God's timing, not ours.
When we get to a great place for our country, which I believe we have to have secure elections, I don't care who's in power, it doesn't matter.
And we get to that great place, we're going to look back and say all of it had to happen just the way it did.
God's given us grace right now for such a time as this.
And our end goal is obviously everybody to get to heaven.
I think people don't look to God when things are going good.
They look to it when things aren't going so good and people are praying.
I've been praying for you, you know.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
And I didn't know you were still doing pillow talk with Trump, but that's good.
That's interesting.
Okay, so one last thing.
He's a very good friend of mine.
So one last thing.
So you, you, you centered your life around prayer a lot and faith.
That's right.
So, um, did that start with the fellowship or did you, uh, meet the folks, the fellowship, the, uh, the family and the prayer breakfast, et cetera, after you got released?
You know, here's what happened.
In January 16, 2009, I prayed.
I had all these addictions, crack cocaine, alcohol, cigarette, you name it.
I prayed to God that I would wake up and never have the desire again.
And I woke up and it was gone.
But it was such a transformation.
I thought that's the day I got saved.
I look at things as mathematical odds to prove that God exists.
If you see something that's a one in a million, or a one in a billion, or this is impossible, when do you add it together and consider it a miracle?
And things started happening to me all the way up to February 18th.
Ready for this?
2017, when I got on my knees and got a full surrender to Jesus Christ.
Now, I had one thing I couldn't do.
I could never talk in front of people.
You can see me on a commercial, but here I am a month later.
You're talking now.
Yeah, we can't stop you.
You know why?
I had fear of rejection.
You don't get rejected if you don't talk.
I had fear of public speaking to people I couldn't talk to you to.
And a month after I got saved there, in US Bank Stadium in front of 50,000 people, they told a little bit of my story of being this crack cocaine addict and getting saved.
I have to lead 50,000 people in prayer.
I didn't even know how to pray at that time, you know?
How do you feel about, you know, the Republican Party kind of Poking fun of Hunter Biden's drug addiction.
I think it's horrible anybody poking fun of anything of the Bidens.
I mean, you've never heard me know the shirt that said, let's go Brandon.
I wouldn't even take pictures of people that have that.
I thought it was- Wow.
Absolutely not.
I mean, this isn't about Democrats and Republicans.
This is about us as people.
Hunter Biden had a terrible addiction like I did.
In fact, I heard someone in a talk to him said, Mike, Hunter Biden actually says you're one of the people on the right that he really likes.
Are you also into modern art now?
No.
A Ukrainian gas expert at all?
No?
Okay.
I hope he really did get saved, because the only way... I have my addiction platform, lindorecoverynetwork.org, and getting off all your addictions is just a bonus.
Getting to our real Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, is where it leads you to.
And I hope Hunter Biden got there.
I pray he did.
People say it's because he met this gal or whatever, and, you know, hopefully that leads him to completely stay off and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, he met a gal, you met a guy.
The guy you met is named Jesus Christ.
That's exactly right.
I thought you were going to say, I love this guy!
I'll tell you what, I come in with a whole different attitude.
And he promised me, you kept your promise.
He didn't use God's name in vain today.
I didn't swear.
We got along.
You must have seen when I called that lawyer or something right on TV.
And I said the A-hole thing.
Remember that?
He didn't call my pillows lumpy.
He's okay.
Okay.
Listen, we obviously disagree on a lot, but I appreciate the conversation.
I appreciate you.
Thank you.
It's good to have this conversation.
I thank you both.
We get a report from you since you were with us at RNC.
What did you see at the RNC?
Tell me what you experienced first hand, what you thought of the whole RNC.
Well, what I really liked was I was able to get the word out.
I had the voter election platforms and my plan to secure our elections.
I had the Washington Post follow me around the first day, shadow me the whole day.
The second day, CNN, and the third day, the New York Times.
Who does that, Brandon?
No, I mean, you're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?
Well, let me, I'll tell you what, if everyone look it up, the Lindell, I mean, the Washington Post, I reassured it everywhere.
Ben did that, I forget his last name, just a great kid.
He did a great article.
It's beautiful.
And I'll tell you, Brannon, they had all of our media put inside of a building about, I don't know, a quarter mile away, eighth of a mile away from the main building where you had all your left-wing media over there, including Fox.
I can call them left-wing, can't I?
It was, you know, Dr. Maria, I know, because I have Rudy Giuliani, and they're on the network now, and she confronted Matt Whatley about it, and he says, I don't know, I don't know.
But it was just, I just think that's wrong.
All the supportive media was that far away.
Now, granted, they came over, so many, both Eric Trump, Don Jr., for that matter, Watley.
I mean, they all came over for interviews, but I just thought that was kind of strange.
I walked over there about four times.
Went in the building and it was, uh, you know, went in the main building and, uh, not, not at night.
I, you know, I had, um, like I say, I was doing, my intention was to get the word out, um, about the plan is now everybody says, secure your mail-in ballot.
And I'm announcing it here live.
So here you secure your mail-in ballot and don't open it.
And when you get to vote.
On game day, and they say you've already voted, you go, no, I have not.
And we lay it all out at LyndalePlan.com.
Brad, I accomplished everything I wanted to there.
I went on the Turks, the Young Turks.
You ever hear about them?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that guy, he's got the most foul mouth.
He uses God's name in vain all the time.
But one of the conditions, when I sat down to do his show, I said, you know, his guy was kidding, telling me not to swear, probably about the lumpy pillow incident.
And I said, well, what about him?
He uses God's name in vain all the time.
And he goes, well, you can say that.
I go, not when I'm your guest.
So he agreed.
We shook hands and it was probably, I compared to the Jimmy Kimmel interview was one of my favorite interviews ever.
If everybody wants to check that out at, uh, uh, it's on YouTube brand.
They didn't even take it down.
You're kidding me.
I mean, I'm not kidding.
And, and, uh, it's still up.
You got to watch that yourself.
It is pretty amazing.
I compare it to a Jimmy Kimmel type.
Both him and that gal he's with were going after me.
And remember, this was the same place where I believe he got into it with Alex... Jones.
Jones.
And you've seen that big fight on the social media.
They were all arguing and it got pretty heated.
And their booth was two booths down from our booth.
So, uh, but I missed that part.
And, uh, but I went on and it was just like, you know, the way it should be, you know, I was able to tell me I'm out to, this isn't about conspiracy theory of overturning the 2020 election.
And this is about securing our election platform.
And they agreed that the best thing is to have paper ballots and counted.
They agreed with me.
And then he goes, all Mike's doing today is bringing us facts.
And I go, there you go.
And he goes, no, no, no, I didn't mean that.
I didn't mean that.
It's pretty, it's pretty humorous.
He's, he said it by accident.
So you got a lot of interviews there.
Are people now saying, hey, Mike, you were way ahead of the curve on this.
You kind of were out there as a lone voice for a long time.
Are some of them catching up now, even some on the left?
Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And they ask me, they go, well, if Donald Trump wins, are you going to trust this election?
I said, I wouldn't trust any election done with electronic voting machines.
I've said it before and I'll say it now.
So I told these guys on this and I told all the media there.
It doesn't matter if Donald Trump wins or doesn't win or isn't selected or whatever.
I would expect everyone in the country to demand that we look into this, which is going to be identity theft across the country.
Imagine your county, Brandon, if every county has people in it that went to vote and they say you've already voted, that's identity theft.
It's got to be looked into.
How did you, how did they vote for you when you got your ballot sealed in your hand?
Well, I'll tell you how they did it.
Right over here.
Not you, not you, Caitlin, but somebody did it with the computer.
Somebody did it with the computer, you know?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So this will be the gateway to finally open it up.
I was just with Royce White.
I just came on here and Royce, as you know, in Minnesota is running against, he's running in the primary to go to beat out Amy Klobuchar in the general election, hopefully this fall.
And we were talking about Amy Klobuchar, and I said, you do realize, I said, she was the most outspoken, if not one of the most outspoken people to get rid of the electronic voting machines.
And we played that many, many times when we were together on the network.
Remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Amy goes, four companies control our election, and she named them.
But she didn't get sued for billions of dollars.
And so, you know what, I'm seeing a big change.
I know one thing, Brandon, everywhere I walked at the RNC convention, everybody says, keep going, keep going.
We've got to get rid of the machines, go to paper ballots.
You know, and our great real president at the rallies, he says three things.
When he goes, when I get in that White House, that great White House, I'm going to drill, baby, drill.
I'm going to shut down that border.
And I am going to go to same-day voting, paper ballots, hand count it.
What do you think gets the big applause?
It's always number three.
Everybody knows you've got to secure our elections.
And I'll tell you what, when you ask that question, It might have took three and a half years, but I think everyone in this country, I haven't talked to anyone that doesn't at least know what I'm fighting for, you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, and it's kind of, and now people have said to me, well Mike, they didn't have you on stage at the RNC.
Come on, you guys.
I mean, what do you think?
They didn't have Rudy up there either.
They're trying to distance themselves to do a traditional campaign.
Hey, we're over here securing our elections.
You guys go to lyndaleplan.com, learn the plan, get involved.
Let's get our elections secure.
That's the ultimate goal.
Let me ask you about this.
I sent this to you last week.
I don't know if you saw it or not, but here's Douglas McGregor.
If you guys want to show it, there we go.
This is Colonel Douglas McGregor.
Election expert reveals 98% of county election offices nationwide Use a surveillance device that gives the federal government essentially full access to county election systems.
This is the picture below is an Albert sensor.
He's quoting Dave Schaufel.
Right.
Now in 98% of counties, election offices nationwide and in Collier County, this surveillance device gives the federal government essentially full access to county election systems.
It is provided by a private nonprofit called Center for Internet Security.
That's right.
...which is funded to the tune of $50 million by DHS.
CIS is a main player in the censorship scheme carried out by our own federal government, Democrat nonprofits, big tech, and state election officials to silence Americans' concern about the 2020 election.
Under my leadership as your new supervisor of elections, Collier County will lead the way in being the first major U.S.
county to remove this device from our local elections.
This has now been removed, apparently, from Lincoln County, Washington.
What do you make of this, Mike?
Well, we knew about this two years ago, about those Albert sensors, and my teams have been on the ground.
We know all about this stuff, and like you say, the word's getting out there now.
But we've got to, you know, it's like that old song, I got it one piece at a time.
It didn't cost me a dime, only it cost me a lot.
You're referring to the old Johnny Cash song, right?
Johnny Cash, yeah.
But you were getting rid of these machines one piece at a time.
I'm going to say, you guys, this just happened on Friday, Brent.
I'm glad you brought this up here.
Because on Friday when you had the worldwide, uh, whatever... The attack by CrowdStrike.
CrowdStrike.
Well, does everybody know what happened in your favorite county?
Maricopa County, Arizona, everybody!
Look it up!
They had to shut down their voting again because the internet went down, Brandon!
Come on!
I thought they weren't connected to the internet, you know?
And the biggest thing I want to tell everybody is is they were all talking about Elon Musk at the convention,
and me being able to meet him.
I need to meet him.
I'm gonna put another shout out.
I need to get with Elon Musk.
Elon Musk in four weeks in a row now has put out, we gotta get rid of the machines.
We've got to go to paper ballots.
We've got to get rid of the machines.
I've retweeted it.
Of course, then he went all in for our great real president after the assassination attempt.
And you see many of these people, and it could be Democrat and Republican, like I've said it before.
We're up against this unit party, everybody, that wants to keep these electronic voting machines.
Brandon, if you look at that interview I did with the Young Turks, Those guys, that guy, he could not believe it that my biggest complaint is, and biggest blockers I want to call traitors, is this unit party.
And I'll bet you could name every one of them that I've complained about for three and a half years.
I said, one of them's right here in Wisconsin, Robin Voss.
You know, Brad Rassenberger, he couldn't believe it.
He goes, well, why are you, you're putting down the Democrat or the Republican party.
I go, it's the unit party.
I said, I don't get any pushback for the Democrats trying to get rid of the voting machine.
You do realize other than Jenna Griswold in pure evil in Colorado, which that, that case with, uh, is going now with, um, Tina Peters, that's coming up pretty fast everybody.
We need to pray for her that they, you know, that all that can get, that she can get through that.
So have you spoken to President Trump since the assassination attempt?
No, I have not.
I have not.
What is your take on that?
I mean, there's a lot of information coming out that basically this was an inside job.
It's the biggest setup I've ever seen.
So you agree that there had to be some government involvement to allow a shooter to get that close?
100%.
I reserve comments right now that I'm saying 100%.
I was thrilled by the media there and I said, you know what, I want to take it on.
I will tell you this.
I told the media there, I said, I've been to over 150, maybe 200 rallies, and I wasn't at that rally, but I'll tell you what.
Every rally I've been to, I feel, I always tell people, I feel safe, secure.
I mean, you look at every building, you know, you go to a typical rally, it's covered, covered, covered.
You got an angle, that's covered, that's covered.
They say the guy even made it through with a rangefinder.
Granted, I've had my hairspray taken at rallies, okay?
I'm seriously, I mean this is, it's all the deviations from norm, from the normal behavior, it can only be a setup when you add them together.
It's impossible for it not to be.
Our president, our great real president Donald Trump said something, I think it was yesterday or the day before he was getting interviewed, and he said, you know, the people, the crowd telling, hey, up there, this was five minutes or 10 minutes before he even got on the stage.
Right.
So you believe it was a government, we were saying that night, that Saturday night, we were on the air, Colonel McGregor, myself, we were saying it was a government inside job.
So you agree that this has got to be government agencies complicit.
Absolutely.
It's got to be something like that.
I mean, they grab some kid that's got this crazy background.
By the way, he was in a commercial with BlackRock.
Are you aware of that?
I am.
And are you aware, also, it's being reported by the Oversight Project.
The Oversight Project, that is a project put out by the Heritage Foundation.
It looks as though the Oversight Project, let me see if I can bring it up real quick, it looks as though the Oversight Project, which is tracking on this kid's cell phone data, here we go, Someone regularly visited Crook's home and work, also visited a building in Washington, D.C.
located in Gallery Plaza.
This is the same vicinity of an FBI office.
And this, I guess, was on June 26, 2023.
Whose device is this?
So this is the Oversight Project.
If anybody looks them up, this is, of course, a project of the Heritage Foundation.
So apparently, again, some people are digging.
That's the thing about today.
63, Kennedy, you know, all these things.
Now we have everybody with a cell phone.
People can buy the data.
They can look at the data.
Then we have the horrific testimony by the Secret Service Director.
Some of the members of Congress are saying she was lied to.
I've got a member of Congress coming on my broadcast to ask her questions.
We're being told they won't even tell us how many casings were on the roof, even though they apparently know.
Brandon, see that's another world we live in and you've heard me say it many times that January 7th and 8th were so important to the world of 2021 and that's the day our voices were almost went out forever.
Since that time all like you say all the social media platforms now and all the broadcasts like yours and mine over there we've You know, all these stuff.
You can't hide this stuff from the public anymore.
And now we actually have X with Elon.
Elon has opened this up to be a treasure trove of information that we didn't have on January 6th.
That's exactly right.
And they couldn't, you know, so they're not going to get away with this.
The sad part is, is I, you know, all the government agencies, you know, from CISA to CIA, FBI, all these things, and I include CISA.
That's not a three-letter one.
That's, you know, I fight them all the time.
But they, Uh, but I thought the Secret Service of all people, now I'm, I really, I really kind of, I pray that they're, those guys are good guys.
I know them.
I mean, it's like... Well, just to relieve you a little bit there, because I know where you're going.
We are getting reports that a lot of those agents on the ground were not Secret Service.
They were DHS.
That a lot of Trump's Secret Service had been pulled from him, and a lot of them were DHS officers.
Because Jill had gone into Pennsylvania.
Kamala had gone into Pennsylvania.
Apparently they used this to then throw DHS officers at him.
This is according to well-placed sources that are putting this out here.
And then you've got Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin detailing a lot of information as well about this.
This explains why you've got agents literally standing with their gun pointed toward the crowd when it should have been pointed down.
Can't find their holster.
These aren't Secret Service agents, a lot of them.
Right, right.
No, I didn't recognize half of them.
Some of them I did.
There was about three there that I did.
But if I'd go there, I would say, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I've been, like I say, I've been around them for three years now, or longer.
And actually more, about six years.
I go, time flies, Brandon.
But I want to tell everybody, you see what they've tried to do here in a two-month period, or a month period.
They know, you know, the big fake debate or whatever, when they did that, you know, let's put Biden up there, let's hope Trump attacks him, we kill two birds with one stone.
It was great that our great real president had one of the best debates in history.
When he said, I have no idea what you just said, everybody couldn't understand what he said.
So it was very, It was very, almost like, you know, it was from the heart.
He wasn't making fun of him.
This was real.
And they did that on purpose.
All you had to do is watch Anderson Cooper.
They're going to, you know, because everybody, here's the deal.
If you couldn't take out Donald Trump.
The only way you're going to even think of winning is you're going to cheat with the machines again, but you're going to have to get an extra 10 million votes.
So things are going to stand out like a sore thumb.
But the biggest thing is, Brandon, you've got to make it somehow believable.
So you watch the narratives come out now, whoever they pick at the Democrat convention, whether it's Kamala or whoever, I guarantee you that Fox News is going to come out and go, yep, Kamala's picked by one over, over.
They had Biden up by one after the debate Fox News did.
So they're going to push this narrative out, especially in the key states that they'll go, the inner cities of the key states.
But we, like I say, everybody, we've got a great way to combat that.
And that's don't send in your ballot, get your mail-in ballot, don't use it, don't open it, and you go in and get an identity theft.
And make sure you report that at thelindaleplan.com.
Brad, I want to say another thing, too.
This is news for you.
If you need a We've applied to get in the Democrat convention.
You think they're going to let us in?
No, no, no, no.
And I'm not, I'm not sure you want to be there because remember 1968 Democrats, that was a full on riot.
I'd be concerned about your safety there, Mike.
Well, we are going to go there.
Rudy and I, we're going to go there.
If we don't get in, we're going to have a spot, you know, a spot in the town and I was there, remember, about two months ago, and did five events in the heart of Chicago, and we had about 400 Democrats that voted for Biden, and they were switching to Trump, and we interviewed them and stuff.
So we're going to be live from Chicago.
That's going to be a big deal.
I really think that it's going to be very surprising because they'll be at the convention and we're going to be like, you know, here's the real people of Chicago in this room.
And I'm telling you, I went to Chicago and I spent three days there and we did five events and I didn't have one person harass me outside, you know.
Now, and by the way, this RNC convention in the heart of Milwaukee, remember, I got a lot of Milwaukee stories to come.
If anybody reads my book back in the day, let me tell you, and they were pretty held at gunpoint and stuff.
Here we are in the middle of Milwaukee and on the outskirts of the thing, you know, I had to walk about a mile every day.
That's why I'm looking pretty good here now.
But they, no, seriously, it was about a mile walk of average and get dropped off.
And there was nobody protesting.
There was nobody.
I think two guys and they wanted my picture.
I'm going, come on, you guys, what are you doing here?
You know, trying to make it just, you know, just a couple of guys.
They're being paid.
They're being paid.
Well, there was only two of them, though.
I mean, you think about that.
And so I really think, you know, I think everything's lined up.
It's going to be a very interesting four, five, six months.
Indeed it is.
Alright, let me ask you before I let you go, let me ask you about two things.
The MyPillow specials, before we get to that though, the passing of Lou Dobbs.
Tell me about that.
Well, I prayed with his wife the day before he passed, Kendra and I did.
And he went down so fast and just so sad because every day, or at least, I'd say not every day, but every other day, him and I would confide in, we were strategists, we planned stuff.
Remember, Lou started the fight against the electronic voting machines in 2003, Bran.
You know that from when we used to pull him up on all these.
And he loved his country.
He was a great man.
He was a mentor to me.
He inspired me.
He was so knowledgeable.
I'm going to miss him so much, and it's just, I've been praying.
I just reached out to his wife today, and if anybody knows about a month from now, there'll be about four weeks, there'll be a big public memorial, whatever the family is still planning.
But we're going to miss him and the country.
He was a legend.
His last interview with, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think his last interview with President Trump, that was produced by Logan, and you were in the room for that too, correct, at Mar-a-Lago?
Yeah, that was the first interview he did The first interview was with Donald Trump, and then the last one he did was also with Donald Trump.
He did a phone interview, so isn't that bookends?
And then he dies on the last day of the convention.
But he's looking down, going, keep going, guys, keep going.
His wife said he did it the day before when he was still okay to talk or whatever.
He said, he said to tell, you know, tell me, God bless Mike Lindell and tell him, you know, keep going.
You know, Lou did a lot of work to help to save this country.
And he was aware that president Trump had survived an assassination attempt.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yep.
Yep.
I believe I hadn't talked to him since that point on.
So I don't know, but it's why, you know, it's like that was the week he went down really fast.
Um, so I would assume he did cause I had just talked to him three days before that for about three hours.
It was our longest conversation I think we had this year, just three, four hours.
And we're just talking about everything.
And, and I knew he was in, you know, his health had gone down, but, um, you know, the, uh, Lou, uh, was a fighter till the end.
He was, you know, he did an interview, like the interview he did with Donald Trump.
I had the one, I think it was my, maybe by audio, but it was only a week prior, you know?
So he was still.
his fighter to the end. It just amazed the person. A legend.
And remember everybody, you know, they didn't want him talking about speaking his
mind either, you know. That's when Fox let him go. And he started CNN. He was the head of
CNN back when CNN was a, what I'd... More of a mainstream, mainstream network.
Right, right.
Well, thank you for those words and for honoring your friend Lou.
Let me ask you one final question.
About a month ago, I was under deposition for like six hours with Smartmatic.
I think your attorney was there listening and hearing it.
Is this ever going to end?
And I got like five or six more subpoenas from Dominion.
Is this ever going to end, Mike?
It'll probably end the second Donald Trump wins and then they'll all go away.
They'll say, we're really sorry, but I'm not letting them go.
Oh, I'm coming after all of them.
We all will never let it go.
They've decimated my pillow.
They've just attacked him.
I made my employees worry every day.
And the money, the frivolous money put into these lawsuits, it's disgusting.
Then you've got, you know, the movie Kill Chain, when every Democrat in the country is going, we've got to get rid of the machines, and naming them off, Dominion, Hart, ES&S, all these machine companies.
I, Brandon, it was a shameful, I just seen an article two days ago, it was a Dominion one, that it said, you know, they're interviewing Dominion, and the guy goes, you know, it just doesn't end, it just doesn't end.
You're the one suing everybody, Dominion!
I mean, give me a break!
It doesn't end!
You know what he was talking about, Brandon?
He was talking about Mike Lindell still talking about it.
What, did they think just because they sued me?
If I'd have said I'd shut up, it would have went away a long time ago.
Oh yeah, I'll just shut up.
I'll be real good.
I'll be real good.
Do you know, you know, these other companies, and I'm not going to name them, a lot of them settled.
You know why?
Because they had insurance companies.
Oh.
that settled. So the insurance companies settled. It doesn't mean, one example would be OAN.
They had to do what their insurance companies wanted to do.
You follow me, Brandon?
Yep. Yep. Yep.
You know, and And it probably saved their company.
My company, my pillow, and what I've had to endure, and my employees have had to endure, plus spending tens of millions of dollars on the country over here with the Lindell Plan, the Lindell Offense Fund, which, by the way, everybody, please support LindellPlan.com.
We need help.
We need help.
We've come this far.
You know, Lou and I talked about this.
Just think of that.
He's been working on this since 2003.
We've come this far.
We're almost to the end zone, everybody.
We need money to fund this plan.
It's going to work.
And we need to get the word out there, and it's going to be amazing.
Is your trial coming up in like January, February, in the new year?
They don't set that yet.
Are you kidding?
We're still trying to get the summary judgment done.
I'm still in discovery.
Every day I go, when are we doing a summary judgment to get rid of this?
Mike, we're still in discovery.
Smartmatic!
Smartmatic was upset about something that Joe Ullman said in Colorado at a church.
And I happen to be at the church, and they asked me if I'd speak.
I spoke after him.
So the article came out, Mike Lindell and Joe Ullman.
I go, this is Joe saying this.
I'm over here, and I'm talking this.
What does that have to do with me?
Brian, how would you like to get sued every day for something I say out there in the public?
No.
I already get subpoenaed for whatever you've said.
Well, it's so crazy.
I'll tell them anything.
It's nothing.
All they got to do is look at my tapes, everybody.
When I go to these depositions and there's subpoenas and everybody, what for?
I'll tell them straight out.
I know.
That's what's so ridiculous.
Everything they're asking is available right online.
It's right there.
One of the biggest things people miss because of the deposition I did with the lawyer that called my pillows lumpy, the best line, everybody, you know, was when he said to me, he goes, you know, Judge is going to be watching this too.
And I go, really?
I got a big problem with you, Judge Wang.
Which, by the way, I'm going to announce it again.
I got another big problem with Judge Wang in Colorado.
She's been sitting on my summary judgment for I believe it's like six months.
It's over, Judge Wang.
Just get rid of it.
Why should I have to sit here?
Why should I have to sit here with my employees and sit and worry about something that you know is the most frivolous case ever known to man?
I didn't know Eric Coomer.
When did I badmouth Eric Coomer?
I'll tell you when I did.
When he served me papers on the capital of Colorado steps and I didn't know him.
Going, oh, this is the guy?
This guy, I didn't even look at the things.
Nine months later, go, oh, he used to work for Dominion?
I found all this stuff after he sued me.
Why'd he sue me?
Because Joel Oltman went on a podcast once somewhere that I didn't even know Joel Oltman back then.
It's crazy, Brad.
But I'll tell you what he did do.
What this Eric Coomer did do is when he made a dirty deal with Newsmax, in the spring of 21 everybody, we took in millions of dollars on Newsmax where they helped out my pillow and stuff.
Three million to be exact.
Three months prior, now you go three months after, $300,000.
So when Eric Coomer made that deal, I could never go on Newsmax again.
I couldn't go on there to say about all the employees we have, our addiction network, all the things we're doing to help our country.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
Yep.
Keep fighting, Mike.
Keep fighting.
I want to say one more shout out to our good friend Alan Duke.
You know, Let's talk about, I'm going to say one thing about Alan Duke.
Alan Duke is the Facebook fact checker.
I brought his name up at the RNC convention.
He has his little partner Martin overseas in Belgium or someplace.
So here they are.
They've got a couple of employees.
Remember everybody, he covered up everything in 21 and 22.
Fake news!
Fake news!
One of the things he covered up on mine hadn't even been out yet five minutes.
Absolute interference.
It contains nudity and porn.
All this stuff.
Well, isn't it funny now, Brandon?
He must be out of business.
Everything he told me once, when we gave him all the evidence, he said, Mike, we know it's true, but we're not going to put it out there.
We say if things are false.
Everything I've been putting out, Brandon, I haven't had anything covered up by Alan Duke in almost two years.
What does that tell you, right?
He's out of a job.
It's all true.
It's all true.
Oh no, he's still working.
They're going, oh, this is...
Think of the money he's saving up by not putting the graphics up to say fake news anymore.
He's probably a millionaire because he doesn't have to do any work anymore.
He knows it's all true.
He sits back and goes.
He's like a Maytag repairman.
It's all true.
All true, brother.
I'm going to invite Alan Duke on my show for now.
You've got to do that.
I'd love to have Alan come on in.
Now that it's all post, come on, Alan.
Come on my show, Brent House Live, and tell me what's going on.
I've got his phone number.
You want me to give it to you?
No, no, no.
Give it to me offline, otherwise he'll change his number and we won't be able to reach him.
All right.
I'm glad you're still laughing, Mike.
No, he'll just forward it back to me like we did the old days.
That's right.
All right.
Thank you, Mike.
You bet.
Mike Lindell checking in.
CEO of MyPillow, Mike Lindell.
MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell.
He is the greatest.
The MyPillow guy.
Mike Lindell.
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