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You You ever see this guy with the pillows on Fox
you My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
He is the greatest.
My pillow guy, Mike Lindau.
And he's been with us right from the beginning.
I'm not going to lie.
The jury was sent home.
They will come back tomorrow.
They did not reach a verdict.
That's unsurprising.
But I guess what is also not surprising is that the judge instructed the jury that when it comes to finding if Trump is guilty, they must unanimously agree that Trump committed a crime.
But The underlying crime can be one of three, by all means, pick yours.
And as long as you all agree at least one of them was broken, not unanimously, then he is guilty.
That's right.
The underlying crime could be one of three different things that Trump may or may not have done.
And they don't have to agree that Donald Trump did those things, as long as each of them agrees at least one of those things happened.
So this is insane.
They've basically rigged this against Trump.
When the prosecution said this, I was surprised the judge let it through, and then the judge gave the instructions to the jury.
While you must agree that the principal crime, falsifying business records, was committed, the underlying crime which makes it a felony?
Pick and choose!
It could be anything you think!
And so here we are.
Now, of course, the corporate press is lying about it.
And they're saying, no, no, it's all it's all fake news.
So we'll talk about that.
We've got a couple other funny stories.
Biden snapping at a reporter.
Hunter Biden apparently wants to sue Fox News because they called him a degenerate crackhead.
Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Lindell.
Thanks for having me on.
Everyone knows who you are, but you want to introduce yourself.
Well, I used to be known as the my pillow guy.
I think now it's the election platform guy.
You're still the pillow guy.
Yeah, okay.
We sell a lot more than pillows, everybody, too.
And I'm here to say my employees all say hello.
We're still here, even in spite of all the attacks, and my employee-owned company, we've made it through by the grace of God.
I'm actually backed out to be able to do shows again.
I've been sitting there back home in Minnesota trying to protect my employees and everything from all the media attacks and the cancellations and the lawfare going on against MyPillow.
Here's their CEO out there wanting to get secure elections and they get sued.
It's crazy, the debunking, the cancellations.
Well, I bought your stuff.
We just bought a big order of all the MyPillow stuff and so we love it.
Thanks for being here.
It should be fun.
Thanks.
I got to see the skateboard thing out there with my pillow pit.
That's right.
Yeah, we got a big pit of pillows and the kids were jumping into it.
Yeah, I watched it.
It was awesome.
Right on.
All right.
We got Phil hanging out.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
How you doing, Hannah-Claire?
I'm good.
It's fun to be back.
It's good to see you again.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimel.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
Follow all of their work on the internet at TimCastNews.
Hi, Serge.
Howdy, y'all.
Let's get started, Tim.
The big news today is that the jury has begun its deliberations.
They wrapped without coming to a verdict.
That is unsurprising.
AP has the story.
Jurors in Trump-Hush money trial end first day of deliberations after asking to re-hear testimony.
And then they sent another note in asking for the judge's instructions again, because no one knows what the crime is.
Nobody understands what's going on.
Now, here's the best part.
Let's start from the beginning.
Jonathan Turley, posting this earlier in the morning, Mershan just delivered the coup de grace instruction.
He said that there is no need to agree on what occurred.
They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices.
Thus, this means that they could split 4-4-4 and he would still treat them as unanimous.
Now, the other day in closing arguments, we heard this from the prosecution and I...
You know, I knew the prosecution would do something like this.
Like, hey, you all know that Trump's a criminal.
Just convict him.
Say he committed a crime.
And the prosecution actually presents this.
The judge actually agrees.
We have this from Mark Levin.
The grotesque trial charade gets even worse this morning.
The Stalinist clown judge directed the jury that they can choose among three areas of crimes to convict the former president.
One, violations of federal election law, which no one in the courtroom is familiar with and the judge barred Brad Smith from testifying about.
Two, falsification of business records.
And three, tax violations.
Of course, the issue for all of the above is the requirement of criminal intent.
Furthermore, the idea that jurors can pick one of the three and they don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three is another shocking development.
Moreover, the federal campaign violation has still not been defined.
Now, here's where it gets good.
The corporate press, of course, is playing the game where they create their own conspiracy theory and then debunk it to trick people into not realizing what's going on.
The AP says posts misrepresent New York judges' instructions to jury in Trump hush money trial, claiming...
That the claim is that the judge told the jury they don't need to have a unanimous verdict.
No, no, no.
Nobody said that.
We're talking about the underlying crime.
That's what Jonathan Turley pointed out.
That's what Mark Levin pointed out.
Basically, everyone pointed out that what they're saying is, if the jury says, yeah, Trump falsified a record, What is the other crime he's covering up?
The judge says, you pick.
It's up to you, because there's never been one.
They don't have one.
So, buried in this AP assessment false, Merchant said that to convict Trump, the jury will have to find unanimously on each of the 34 felony counts.
And then when you go down, they actually break down.
Well, not really.
The judge told the jury to convict Trump on any given charge.
To convict, they'll have to find unanimously.
They all must agree the former president created a fraudulent entry in the company's records or caused someone else to do so.
They say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of New York election law, making it illegal for two or more conspirators to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.
Mershan gave the jurors three possible, quote, unlawful means, aka crimes, that they can apply to Trump's charges.
Falsifying other business records, breaking FEC law, or submitting false information in tax return.
For conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don't have to agree unanimously on which it was.
This whole time we've been wondering, what is the underlying crime?
They took a misdemeanor beyond the statute of limitations and said, yes, but he was concealing another crime.
Therefore, it's now a felony and we can charge him.
And everyone said, what's the underlying crime?
Oh, and the jury can figure it out if they want, but they don't got to be unanimous.
This is a rigged trial from the judge.
Welcome to 2024.
I'm not convinced that I think there's a decent probability Trump gets convicted.
I don't know what you do about a situation that's so convoluted.
The feds don't have any kind of authority to step in, and it seems like the entire Justice Department of the state of New York is going to allow this.
I mean, it's on its face, it seems completely and totally ridiculous.
It also seems like everyone's kind of like, well, you know, once it gets to appeals, it's going to be obviously overturned or whatever, which would be the right thing.
But it's still it's I.
I'm still just like I don't I don't I feel like how long does it take?
Yeah, I feel like there needs to be some kind of remedy to I wish that were I feel like there should be even if there isn't some kind of remedy to stop this but I don't I don't know that there is.
It's weird that the prosecution doesn't have to be specific in the crime that they're alleging they're trying to cover up.
I feel like that's part of the Constitution!
It reminds me of, you know, that show, Whose Line Is It Anyways?
And Drew Carey would always be like, well, the points don't matter.
Like, that's the prosecution right now.
The crimes don't matter, as long as you convict.
Which is obviously, to me, an abuse of the justice system.
And, you know, you're completely right.
If tried as a misdemeanor, they couldn't have brought it after 2019.
And it wouldn't come with the jail sentence.
So there's this weird... It all comes down to the fact that they were trying this as a felony, but the judge just said, But just forget about the stuff that would make it a felony.
You can make that up as we go along.
This is not the one that they had to change the statute of limitations.
No, no, no, no.
That was the Stormy Daniels one, right?
No, no, no, no.
This is the Stormy Daniels one.
E. Jean Carroll was when she sued Trump.
So that was finished.
They created a new law.
It's all so insane!
This is the anomalies of times we're in.
It's like, you know, none of this has ever happened before.
No.
Ever.
And, you know, I live it every day, different things.
And I watch our real president and what's happening there.
Can I say that?
Our real president?
Well, he really was a president at one point.
Yeah.
Well, he's Mr. President.
Yeah, right.
But anyway, these are times where, you know, it's like, you know, so many nonsensical things and you just gotta look at what's the real agenda.
There's another agenda if you can't make sense of it.
And, you know, I think it's backfiring, though.
I really do.
You know, I talked to our president, Al Saleh, real president, the other day, and he talks about, you know, all the time that This weaponizing against him.
But he gets to come out there.
He thinks of the positive.
At least he gets to talk to worldwide media and say, and people are seeing through all this.
I mean, I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican.
I go everywhere in the country and they're seeing through this.
So I think there's actually good that's going to come out of it eventually going, hey, we can't ever let this kind of stuff happen again.
But there are people that are Trump supporters saying, like, Normie's independence won't care.
Biden, what is this, Biden's supposed to have a press conference when the verdict comes out?
Is that what the plan is?
That's what I heard.
And of course, if that's the case, because that's the rumor going around, or it may be definitive news, I haven't checked, but if that's true, we all know what he's going to say.
He's going to say Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
Do not vote for this man.
And a lot of people are going to just be drooling into their laps going, OK, Right.
Yeah.
But you know, but you know what?
It's like, this has been going on for so long.
It's like, you know, the kid, the cold wolf, the little boy, the cold wolf, it keeps going on and people are seeing through it.
And I'm not just people on the right or people on the left to say, it's like their eyes are getting open that this is a, this is a weaponization against all of our rights.
You know, I've, you know, I've got things that have been that are going on.
And I really think that People see through that.
Any other time in history, you could go back and pick any indictment that he's gotten or anything that's happened, and they're done.
Your political career is over, you know?
I take, even myself as a businessman, you know, I get, well, they couldn't get my pass, so he's a crack guy.
Yeah, I admitted it, so I said it right away, right?
But, you know, you get a phone taken at a Hardee's drive-thru, everyone's going, and normally, in a normal world, they say, what crime did you commit, Mike?
What did you do?
Why did the FBI have to do it?
My buddy that was with me going hunting, coming back for a hunt, he was scared to death.
I'm going, you know, what did I do? I want to be arrested.
They wouldn't arrest me.
I mean, we're living in some weird times, crazy times.
This is the terrifying reality of our current state, the current state of our country.
Yeah.
The court of public opinion controls everything basically.
And so what's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty isn't anymore.
People watch you get arrested.
They just assume the government is right and you're a bad person.
There are some polls, though, that have said that, you know, Trump could win independence.
A conviction could help Trump with independence in certain states.
There's one from Emerson College.
I believe even more than that.
I told them the other day, I said, you have a bucket here of common sense bucket.
And I go around.
I've got a thing.
I just was in the heart of Chicago talking to Democrats here that voted for Biden.
They're now voting for Trump.
And I asked them why.
You know, I went around, asked them all why.
I had 500 of them in a room.
And you ask him why, and there's different reasons.
Well, one of the biggest things is what they are, economy right now, and the border open, and the fentanyl pouring in, things like that.
But they're also looking at, as he's getting attacked, they're flipping into this bucket of common sense going, you know, I told him on his first indictment, I remember saying, you know, his polls went up.
And I said, man, you keep getting indicted, your polls, you're pretty sure you're going to have more votes than voters like Pennsylvania, you know?
They have more votes than voters every election in Pennsylvania.
Well, they're really good at what they do.
That's right.
It is wild though.
I mean, I think Trump has really struck a chord in the way that, you know, progressive
sort of activists in these ADAs and district attorney's offices couldn't have predicted.
Like being somebody who is being sort of chased by the federal government, who is being persecuted
on the level that he is, really won his hearts and minds of people, especially people who
are not that interested in politics, but mostly they want the government to leave them alone.
The idea that they would go after a former president who's also a billionaire in his
home state is terrifying to anyone who doesn't have any means of fighting a corrupt judicial
And I live that.
They come after me and my business just because I have a big platform out there.
I know so many small businesses that have been just attacked and they're done with what's going on.
They don't have a voice.
They don't have a voice and I think you're right.
You've hit a touch of court with people out there going, what if it was us?
Well, if they can do it there, they can do it here.
I don't care what party you're in, you know.
I like to point out Fareed Zakaria on CNN saying this case would not have been brought against a person whose name was not Donald Trump.
It's a really stupid way of saying they only brought this case because it's Trump.
But when CNN is saying that, regular people hear it.
And then when you hear stuff like this, this is why the AP is trying to cover up for the judge.
Like, this is the game they play.
Guys, for everybody watching this, I want to hammer this point in.
I explain this all the time.
Someone will claim something.
Someone will say, like, hey, I noticed a thing.
The corporate press will slightly alter the claim.
and then at the very bottom explain that it was true the whole time.
So the example I have to give is Donald Trump will do a backflip, you know, and land perfectly
in front of everybody.
Right.
And then what the what Snopes and all these cover press outlets will do is they'll write,
did Donald Trump really do a backflip dot dot dot on Sunday morning?
False in big, bold letters.
Then it'll give you this huge two-page breakdown and at the very bottom it'll say, while it is true that Trump did a backflip on Saturday, he did not do it on Sunday, when no one made that claim.
And to exemplify this, we know for a fact, the judge said, the underlying crime can be one of three, so long as you agree at least one of them was broken.
Even if you don't agree that he broke all of them, or you're not even unanimous, it's fine to convict him on the first charge.
What they've changed now is according to the AP, they're saying the claim is that you don't need a unanimous verdict to convict Trump.
When the claim was always you don't need to be unanimous on the underlying crime.
What they've done is they've created their own conspiracy.
And what'll happen now is, regular people, you'll be sitting at dinner, we've got the Fourth of July coming up, you're gonna come to the family, and you're gonna be at the lake drinking a beer, and you're gonna be talking about this case, and they're gonna be like, no, that's fake news, because I read in the AP, and then it's gonna be difficult for you to try to explain how the AP lied by creating their own fake argument, and then at the Bottom of the article actually saying they don't have to agree unanimously on which crime was committed.
It's incredible how they do this.
Yeah, absolutely it is.
I, you know, my personal experience with that, we were just talking before the show, the, uh, the, I have all the journal, I think every journalist in the world on my phone and, and they'll attack and attack.
I'll write these articles.
The headline will be, you know, Mike Lindell did this or whatever, or we talked about the warehouse.
Michael and Bill, my pillow's out in the street.
The employees, they lost their warehouse.
Well, then you read down through the article, and then you get the truth at the bottom.
But in the meantime, everyone's calling me up.
They're going, you know, what do you do?
You're out in the street.
You lost everything.
Are you ashamed of what you stood up for?
But for me, I've used that as a way to get the word out, even.
And I was just saying, some of these journalists, I've actually become weird friends with them, going, hey, you've got to bash me a little more.
Otherwise, your boss isn't going to print the article.
It'll be too good.
I've done it before where I've had journalists from the New York Times and the Washington Post.
I've given them my book to read.
I read my book before I give them a long interview.
Well, then they read the book and their articles are too good because they're torn.
They never got printed.
The one for the Washington Post, I re-shared it everywhere because it was like, wow, I can't believe it slipped by his boss.
But my point being is, people now are even getting wise to the articles you describe because you see these headlines.
But a lot of them aren't.
A lot of them are still part of the brainwashing.
You know, here's the headline, this is what the truth is.
But the truth has been twisted so much by the news and it's disgusting the way they twist it.
Well, let's jump to this next one.
We got a tweet from the Trump war room.
It's a clip from CNN.
No change in public opinion during the Trump trial.
This is amazing.
Check this out.
John, that it began, but apparently it's 44 days.
You cracked the numbers.
You've run the numbers.
All right, let's take a look here.
Think Trump did something illegal in the New York hush money case.
I've been interested in whether or not these numbers would change at all during the course of this trial.
Simply put, John, they have not.
After the direct examination of Michael Cohen by the prosecution, look at where we are now.
46%.
The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious in fact dropped from 40% to a little bit more than 35% during the course of this trial.
So yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors, but when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no Change at least so far, John.
I really love how he had to write no with his finger on their stupid screen.
I like that he's presenting it as a win.
Any possible reasons why?
Yeah, I think the question is, what's exactly cooking here?
Why hasn't there been much of a change?
Well, folks like you and me, real news junkies, might be paying really close attention to what's going on.
The fact is, most Americans Don't really care that much.
So closely following news about economy inflation, that's number one at 65%.
Look at immigration, 52%.
Election legitimacy, 49%.
Abortion, 47%.
All the way down on this list of issues tested by the Ipsos Knowledge Panel is Trump's court cases at 42%.
Significantly less than economy inflation.
The fact is, John, when we're looking at these numbers, what we see is Americans' minds aren't changing.
And a big reason why Americans' minds aren't changing is at this particular point, John, they are tuned out of the country.
I'll just rephrase it for you, buddy.
They don't care.
They're wondering why their eggs cost so much money, why they can't afford broken bread.
And they know that Joe Biden's not the president who's going to fix the economy.
And Donald Trump is.
That's right.
That's it.
I told I was talking when I talked to our president the other day when I say that it's talking about Donald Trump and I said you have this bucket here this common sense bucket and I told him you know as things keep he keeps getting attacked his polls keep going up and And once you're in the bucket, I told him, you've given nobody a reason to leave that bucket, because he can go back to point to December of 2019, and all of us, our lives, no matter where you started or how many forks you ate with, your lives have somewhat improved, with the economy all-time high, highest consumer confidence ever, and now the destruction that's going on with the economy and the borders and
I mean, being the next crack addict, worry about the addiction, the hopelessness with the fentanyl pouring across and deaths all over.
These things are driving people to this bucket of common sense and they don't care about all this nonsense that we're having to go through.
That other case where I'm sitting in Mar-a-Lago the other day where that one judge said Mar-a-Lago was worth like $18 million or some nonsense.
I'm going, this wing's worth $18 million.
I know what the properties are worth around there and you just can't You put your head around this and going, what's going on?
What are they doing this for?
But I just think it's pure evil and it's backfiring on them.
Let's not just do one, let's do four indictments.
Let's just keep going.
We pile on, the public will just go away.
Right, and each case is the most important one.
Every time one hits it, they're like, well, we weren't that serious about that one.
We're really serious about the next one.
This is the big one here.
This always makes me laugh because CNN is almost like, well, you know, we have to justify because we thought people would be obsessed with this.
Because I assume CNN or maybe the prosecution would assume that as they present their case and the media freaks out about it.
CNN covered it nonstop that more people would start to believe that Donald Trump had done something wrong.
But in fact, the fact that there's no change tells you how ineffective this prosecution was.
And how siloed we are politically.
No, no, no.
There is a big change.
CNN's ratings have gone down.
That's so true.
And I think they're lying about their staying even.
They have to.
It's probably so much pouring into this bucket.
They got to go, well, just say it's even, that it's not going up.
When really it's going up.
Right.
I do wonder how much you guys think the admission from CNN is going to actually move the needle.
Now, I don't think that actually anything coming from the courtroom is going to.
But I do wonder if like the people that have been spreading the narrative and the viewers
have been used to kind of allowing them to shift, you know, as the narrative shifts and
not really interrogate the change.
Do you think that this is going to move the needle?
Do you think that they're going to be like, well, maybe because CNN, you know, I mean,
how much do you think it's going to matter if at all?
So a couple of years ago, you know, I was at a family dinner for Thanksgiving and it
was very much the you got your liberal family members and you got your conservative family
And then last year it was a nobody was with Biden.
Right.
So, so, you know, without getting into too many detail for too much detail for the sake of people's privacy, it was kind of like, you know, a couple of years ago, it's like, no, Trump's bad.
Oh, come on, Biden's not that bad.
Last year was, oh, Biden's awful.
It wasn't a pro-Trump thing.
It was a, oh, I can't believe how bad things are getting.
That's exactly right.
And that's like, I just spent like a week in Chicago and I'm not kidding.
I couldn't believe it that these people, I went to the Capitol and all the, the Democrats there were coming up to me and asking me, cause they're, you know, I'm all for election platforms, securing our elections and they're coming up.
These are the politicians coming out to me.
Even they see what's going on.
I really believe that, that you look around and I don't, you know, it's a destruction that's going on, but it's actually, You know, all these things that's getting, you know, I call them Uniparty Republicans, I call them blockers out there, the Brad Rassenburgers, the Robin Voss of the world that I'm trying to get gone.
And these guys, there's been so much revealed and by This onion being opened up, you know, you know, what was the nonsense of shutting down the pipeline on the first day when he was in power?
The other stuff, more destruction than anything, you know, all the entrepreneurs in our country, the shipping charges, that's the stuff that goes with that is destroying and people, they don't see what's really going on there.
This mom, pop businesses where you have these shipping charges because of one thing, you know, you shut down, shut down the pipeline, you know, gas prices can control everything.
What I do believe, when Donald Trump, I'll say when he's back in, that this can all be fixed, maybe better than ever, because we've all learned so much.
What does destroy, what is open, you know, open our eyes.
That border is disgusting.
I mean, when you have something that's going right, why would you not keep doing it right?
So Joe Biden shuts down Keystone, shuts down these pipelines, bans fracking on federal lands.
And a bunch of Trump supporters are like, oh, look, gas prices are going up.
The media then says Trump supporters are lying because Keystone wasn't in operation.
It wasn't actually transporting crude, so it has no effect.
That's a lie.
What happened was there is supply and demand and there's future prospecting on the amount of supply that's going to be available.
When Biden shut down Keystone, basically all of the speculators and all of the companies said, without this pipeline, we are going to be in a supply deficit within X amount of years.
That's right.
Buy now to bolster our stocks of petroleum.
And then other speculators come in saying, oh, wow.
I'm going to get rich when the price skyrockets.
The speculation causes immediate prices of crude to go up and then you feel it at the gas pump.
That's all speculation.
And not to mention 13 people on that pipeline committed suicide of those workers.
That was their job.
That's terrible.
but people do need to take into account how like the, the, just the policy decisions that an administration talks
about regulations that they discuss affects the price of gas.
And we discuss how immoral it is that the Biden administration is taking,
you know, um, oil from our, our strategic reserves, because that leaves the United States in a even more
compromised position, uh, internationally or on the, on the, uh, geopolitical
scale or whatever.
But the fact of the matter is like, there are still things that the Biden administration could
do that would help the, not just the cost of fuel like gas,
but the cost of everything, because the cost of gas is such a large part of every
single thing we purchase, you know?
So Biden could come out and be like, I want to raise gas prices.
And they just go nuts.
The whole system would freak out because people start making crazy moves.
There was this moment when I think it was the Syrian Electronic Army, which was a couple of hackers based in Russia, actually supporting Syria.
I think they were Syrian, but they were refugees.
They hacked the AP Twitter account, tweeted that Barack Obama had been injured in some
kind of attack, and then the market just tanked.
And then when the AP got control back and then said this was a hack, it jumped back
up to about 90 percent of where it was.
What people don't realize is that was an instant transfer of probably hundreds of millions
of dollars from one group to the next.
That could have just a tweet.
That's how simple it is.
So, what do you think happens when Biden says, I'm banning fracking on federal lands and we're shutting down a massive oil pipeline?
Gas prices are going to go up.
He could do something too, but he's so beholden to the eco-crazies that he's got to deal with in his own party.
Yeah, he did make environmentalism a huge part of his platform.
But I think actually a larger component would probably be the Saudis.
I think Biden's looking to cut a deal with Saudi Arabia of, okay, you keep the flow rolling, we'll cut down giving you control over supply so long as you agree to work with us, you know, as to how the petrodollar works.
Earn favor with Saudi Arabia, you're going to make a lot more money as the main supplier, we'll cut back, but don't do it out of turn.
We want to control how much you're actually putting out.
So you get more from when Saudi Arabia dumps oil into the market, it affects the dollar.
And so the U.S.
is trying to negotiate.
And then, of course, you get the Yemen crisis, the U.S.
supporting them.
Trump's not innocent there.
That's a whole other fiasco.
But I think Joe Biden is basically that.
You know, I told this to Trump.
It seems like the MAGA platform is secure our borders, bring our jobs back, get the American workers back to work, boost our economy internally.
And the Democrat platform is, no, no, no, we don't need to do any of that.
All we got to do is send our men and women overseas to go fight in wars, to go blow up people and get blown up, and then hopefully we can control enough territory and energy that we can just take from everybody else.
That's not a successful policy in the long term.
It results in terror, blowback, war, and conflict, and nobody wants to spend money on that.
That's right.
I've seen something that was such irony.
It was just yesterday.
I think it might have been on Facebook or Twitter or something.
And here in California, so you take away your police and you have all these electric cars and all the stations where all of them were caught because there's copper in the lines and all of them were ransacked.
I mean, hundreds of these.
and they showed all the copper cutouts, so they're sitting there,
well, now you're gonna have to hire, how are you gonna place them?
Now you gotta remake them to be, because people are gonna keep doing it,
they don't get arrested for anything out in California.
Yeah, people are cutting the Tesla.
Yeah, yeah.
Because there's a lot of copper in there.
There's a lot of copper.
That's crazy.
So I'm going, you know, once again, bad decisions.
One of the things when I met Donald Trump, people always ask me, it's in my book too,
but is when I met him in August of 2016, I never voted in my life.
I was next crack addict.
I didn't think politics meant a thing, right?
I gotta, you know, the world goes on.
You never voted at all?
I never voted.
I was a crack addict.
One time on a show, when I did my first rally, they go, you know, I was on a radio station yesterday.
There was like 20,000 people at this rally, and it was the first speech I ever did.
And I go, there was 20,000 people.
I said, I mean, I was getting interviewed on a radio station.
They called me the founder of MyPillow and a former Democrat.
I said, I got right on there and corrected him.
I didn't find MyPillow.
I invented MyPillow.
I wasn't a former Democrat.
I was a former crack addict.
And everybody laughed.
They go, no, really, I was.
I don't know why they laughed, because they were like, well, what's the difference?
But the point being, what I was saying, when I met him, it was such, I met him August 15, 2016, and he invited me there just because I had my pillow made in the USA.
And he wanted to ask me, this nobody from Minnesota that had built a company from, you know, being an American dream.
And he said, how is it making your stuff here?
And he asked me all these questions.
And then they said, now, whatever you do, don't tell me you're a crack addict.
Right away, I go, you know, I was a crack addict.
I kind of looked at him like this, you know, and he goes, uh, I said, I'm going to have this network, the Lindau Recovery Network.
It's going to be free to addicts.
And he says, and I'm going to stop the drugs pouring in.
I'm going to shut that border down.
But it was, it was so many common sense solutions to, you know, to, uh, I go, wow, this is like a businessman, like a CEO.
What is short for president?
I never know what a president, you know, I never met one before, but.
I go, you know, that's what I went all in.
I'm going, man, if he really does this, it's problem-solution, and he has a gift of what it's going to manifest to help all people.
I always tell people, when government's making decisions that don't help either party, if it doesn't help any of the people, there's a hidden agenda.
You know, there's a hidden agenda, and it's not good.
Not good for you.
And that's it.
That's why I wanted to secure our election platforms.
What's so bad about that?
We all want transparent, fair elections.
Well, not everybody.
Right, not the bad people.
Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
Hunter Biden to sue Fox News for calling him a degenerate crackhead.
Heavens, why would they say such a thing?
Hunter Biden is preparing to sue Fox News for defamation, alleging the network exploited his drug addiction to dehumanize him.
His lawyers sent a letter to Fox News several weeks ago threatening legal action for allegedly collaborating with Trump operatives and pro-Russian nationals to defame him for profit.
The letter demands retractions, corrections, and on-air apologies.
Hunter Biden's attorneys told the Daily Beast they plan to file a lawsuit shortly.
Hunter Biden also expressed his frustrations in an interview with the outlet, stating,
I'm not saying my addiction is an excuse for my bad behavior.
What I'm saying is that my addiction is not an excuse for them to dehumanize me.
And then so dehumanize everybody from the addict that you pass it on the street
to the one that you live with. That is the principle motivating factor.
Addict, addict, addict, addict.
You know, crack addict.
He's a crack addict.
Smoking crack addict.
In response to a potential lawsuit, a spokesperson for Fox News cited the company's statement about constitutionally protected coverage regarding a public figure who has been the subject of investigations by both the DOJ and Congress and has been indicted by two different U.S.
attorneys' offices in California and Delaware.
And has admitted to multiple incidents of wrongdoing.
So in his book, he said he was a crack addict, a crack daddy, and a crack head.
You can't sue someone for that, you know?
Well, you know, maybe he thinks because Fox pays off on frivolous lawsuits, so maybe he thinks he's got a chance, you know?
Can I say that?
But that's true.
I mean, Fox is probably just going to be like, okay, what do you want?
The lawyers are going to go to Fox, and they're going to say, it's a ridiculous lawsuit, it's going to cost you $200,000 to go to court.
Right.
And this is where we're at.
That's another thing, too, that bothers me in this country with lawfare and everything else.
You can be right on something, and it costs you more to say, no, I didn't do this, I'm in the middle of it, I know.
You know, it's disgusting, these suits that are bought.
Especially when you're suing, like, the government, right?
Like, if the government's coming after you, they can spend taxpayer money all day long, forever and ever, whereas you eventually, I mean, maybe not you, but the average American will run out of money at some point.
Right.
They took my cell phone at a hard... I sued the FBI and our government.
They never gave my phone back.
I took it all the way to the Supreme Court and they wouldn't accept it.
You know, so now I've got to shelf that over here.
They're never giving my phone back.
I use all my business.
I wasn't charged with a crime.
You can't just take, nowadays, my phone is everything, all my business stuff.
That's crazy, you know?
And I kept fighting and spending more money.
I'm going, you know what?
I got other bigger fights.
So everybody, yes, and they still have my phone.
I have my grandkids' pictures on there that I can't get off of, you know?
Even the judges in Minnesota, the Supreme Court, they had Ninth Circuit or Eighth Circuit, whatever it was.
The three judges go, well, Are you going to give us phone back?
Can't you just do a download?
No, we're going to keep this.
This is the lawyer for the government, right?
And then they asked, one of the judges said, well, what about client or attorney-client privilege there?
And he goes, well, we're looking through it all.
So that's like, okay, so you say, oh, we shouldn't have seen that.
We shouldn't have seen that.
It's like a jury, disregard what you just heard.
It's bizarre, the weaponization that's going on.
When you talk about defamation, and you talk about my cases, the electronic machines that were used by our government, they're basically our government device in all our elections.
Why should I get sued just to say, hey, I want to see inside them?
You know, I want some transparency here.
Yeah, Ian often says that election machines should, the source code should be open source.
Yeah, they should be open.
You should be, we should all be able to see, hey, show us what's inside.
I used an example once.
I said, if somebody accused my pillow of having rocks and knives in it, do you think I'd go around suing you all?
You just got, Mike, we used them in our pit out here and we've jumped through, there's rocks and knives in it.
I wouldn't sue you for saying that.
I'd say, no, no, no.
Look inside this beautiful patented fill, you know.
Well, I would show I would expose and show you what's inside. There was that guy who called your pillows lumpy.
Yeah My lawyer I said, you know what a jerky attacks my pillow
my employees, you know, I think I called him a few names I probably should have seven
But they leaked out of the deposition. That's supposed to be private, right?
You know, they leaked that out and then they leaked it to make you look bad, but it was the best thing ever
You know what the lawyer says to me then he goes in this case still going on
He goes well, you know the judge is gonna see this I go.
Well good for her I got a big problem with Judge Wing out of Colorado.
And I do got a big problem with her.
You know what that judge did?
Here's what she did.
This lawsuit started in the summer of 22.
So it's so frivolous.
What I did is I, we put in for, you know, to get it dismissed, a dismissal.
Well, that's like, if I put a lawsuit against you or if anybody did it, that's your first line of defense is, Hey, I wasn't at that.
It's not even me.
You know, it's you put in for a dismissal.
Well this Judge Wang decided, you know what, I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
You go ahead and pay for discovery and everything else and move this forward.
If I didn't have the resources, if somebody off the street, if a judge did that to them
and they were completely innocent and they did that and said you go spend all this money
on lawyers and all this garbage.
It was wrong.
So this was nine months later when I was in that deposition, and I let that Judge Wang have it.
I said, you know what?
You either rule.
I don't care if you rule against me.
You don't change our country and, you know, change our country and set a precedence where every judge can go, oh, we're not going to do it.
I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
You go into discovery.
I had had it with her.
You know what?
I went on my show that night and I just ripped her up one side and down the other.
But she ruled the next day.
She ruled against me on the dismissal.
But at least she made a ruling.
That's all I asked of her.
I just wanted the ruling.
But that lawyer, that was a whole other deal.
I mean, I let him have it.
Well, he attacked your integrity and your pride.
Yeah, he attacked it.
He attacked my pill, my company.
What does this have to do with you and your crooked client?
People don't understand that You know, they think this country was once... We've always been in some kind of conflict.
We've always been in some kind of escalating state of conflict.
But in the 90s, things were pretty okay.
The Democrats and Republicans got along on most issues and argued.
And so that's kind of where people are like...
That's when things were pretty good.
It was the 90s.
We disagreed, there was the impeachment, the scandal, but people generally got along.
That's right.
Today, we are back in this conflict state where, look, you probably know it better than I do, when it comes to lawsuits, one of the first things the lawyer asks is, where do you want to file?
If you file in a blue area, you lose.
If you file in a red area, you win.
It's unbelievable.
Mine was supposed to be filed in both areas, but in Minnesota, and they moved it all to D.C.
They moved all my cases to D.C.
One of them, I sued the other one first.
I sued them.
And they tell me, your lawsuits are no good.
Mine was ruled out.
Your lawsuits are no good.
We're going to dismiss those.
And now we're going to sanction you.
I had to learn these new things.
Sanctions, and you don't have standing.
I mean, the sanction was the worst.
I asked to see, in my own case, against a machine company.
I won't even name their name.
One of them, I'm going, I subpoenaed machines, some in Michigan, to get the machines.
It's my evidence, right?
It's a couple billion dollars.
I think I should get to see my evidence.
The judge ruled, no, you can't see them.
And even for asking you, they sanctioned me $24,000, my lawyers, for asking.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up, huh?
In DC?
No, this was in Michigan where I asked for the machines.
And that judge there sanctioned me.
And then they go, and then the media will use this.
Well, it was a Trump-appointed judge, Mike.
Who cares who appointed the judge?
U.S.
judges down in Georgia, where Obama appointed a judge.
Actually, it was three and a half years, this case against Crooked Brad Rassenburger down there, the Secretary of State, and the curling case.
Finally, last fall, she said, she made a ruling, said, hey, the experts have looked inside these machines.
And she said, we're going to bring this to court, or bring it to trial.
And she said, and if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
I was so happy I got to take him off my tinfoil hat on national TV.
Jimmy Kimmel, he aired it where I, you know, hey, just because I want to talk about it doesn't mean I'm a conspiracy theorist.
So then it goes to her court in January in Georgia.
Guy Halderman, the expert, with a ballpoint pen, hacked into the machine in front of her and changed the election in five minutes.
And so now she's in a tough position because that is she's still delivering
What do we do now in Georgia to get rid of these machines that were proved right there? There's problems, you know,
there's problems We're not turning over an election proving that you're just
proving you can't use these devices That's all it is and she's got to make a decision
My guess is, well, let's just wait till after 2024.
You know, in Georgia, this is the third election in a row that waited with those machines for a ruling on that case, where Crooked Brad Rasmur, the Secretary of State, a Republican, the biggest uniparty blocker in history, keeps blocking down there and blocking and blocking.
And one of the things you said, I really believe when you say our country, when you talk about this division, this argument, I believe what's going on now is uniting the people.
I think that I really do.
I think it's uniting the people where we're going to get to a common place going, Hey, we want to have the American dream here.
We, you know, we want to, we want to live our freedoms.
We want to have, you know, it doesn't matter what party you're in, where you have the parties, the media will put this together, that, that there's arguments here.
And you, like you even said, as you get less arguments now, a year later or two years later at the dinner table, where you have this divide, it's the bad things going are actually uniting.
Well, I think this is true of judicial systems in the U.S., right?
I think it's actually a very bipartisan feeling to think that you're going to go to court and if the judge decides they will rule against you, they could potentially make it extremely difficult for you, that the fees of fighting a lawsuit that maybe you really need to are so overwhelming that you could basically risk everything.
I mean, it's something that people of all political persuasions fear, and we're seeing
it play out over and over and over again.
In all kinds of cases, businesses, political, personal.
I mean, it is something that I think the media thought, oh, well, we'll scare people into
believing that this is the way forward.
But actually what ended up happening is people are looking around going, this system is going
to break me and I cannot keep up with it.
And I think for where God has put me on this platform out there where, you know, I spent most of my time in the inner cities of Minneapolis back in the day.
And they, you know, like I say, I never voted.
And so out there when they see, you know, when I see people all over the country now, it's like, they don't come out to me.
Oh, you're a Donald Trump supporter.
No, they know that I'm out there.
You know, I didn't change.
I didn't change from where I was. All of a sudden I was the CEO of MyPillow. I had an addiction
network out there that's free. I was put into this election platforms that I want to secure
because it all comes from there. If you don't have fair elections, everything stems from it.
Now you could say the stolen election.
I'm talking all elections, you know.
I've been around the world.
I've talked to France, Germany, UK, the Netherlands, all these places that have secure elections because they use paper ballots, hand counting.
Is it so bad that I voice my opinion?
That's what I want.
That's what we need.
And I can prove it.
I can prove that those are the best systems.
All it took is one judge in Argentina last summer to say, you know what, we're going to go to paper ballots.
They switched over in four months faster than the Netherlands did.
And they had their first fair and fair election they've had in years.
Taiwan did it.
Ecuador did it.
And these are things that I believe the public needs to see here because we have the worst election platform in the world.
We're worse than any other country.
Do you think that concerns about election security or election integrity are going to deter people from voting this year?
Do you think we'll have low or high voter turnout?
I think it's going to be the highest in history because it's flipped on that too.
People, people, I told this to Donald Trump too, I said, you know, I said, people are You know, you always say, hey, let's get everybody to get out and vote.
Now you're seeing, like, I'm from Minnesota.
It hasn't been read since 1972, okay?
We're the longest in the country.
And there, it's like, everybody's engaged to vote because they know, they believe that the system, that the elections are rigged, and that the elections, whether it be the machines, the early voting, the drop boxes, whatever you want to call it, and they believe that, hey, We've got one shot and we've got to completely override this and then we can fix the platform.
I'm out there fixing as much as I can.
We have over 250 counties that are now going to go to paper ballots hand-counted.
You can check that out at LyndalePlan.com.
I have over 300,000 people in all 50 states and we work from the county up.
Most counties can vote them out themselves and just go to paper.
I mean, it's so simple.
And, uh, but these people that, you know, they feel alone, a lot of them are scared because they've weaponized against them too.
And I will say they, and they go, well, who's behind this?
All I see in my biggest blockers are these uniparty Republicans.
And I'll give you a really good example in Arkansas.
This is a red state and you've got Cleburne County.
They voted in their own county to go to paper ballots.
And all these other counties were going to follow suit just a little over a year ago.
Well, this guy named Kim Hammers, he's a Republican, went to the Senate and shoved a bill through.
Here's the bill, how it reads.
If you go to paper ballots in Arkansas, we're defunding your county.
So right there, it's like racketeering going, hey, you either go, and what do you think Cleaborn County did?
They go, oh, we're sorry.
We even thought about it.
We're going to go back to the machines, you know.
Right, because whoever has the money is ultimately making decisions.
That's what I find really interesting about all of this, which is that, you know, today's voters, especially young voters, if you're being told constantly, your vote doesn't count, matter because you're already in a state that's going to definitely go to whatever candidate or, you know, anything could happen with the ballots or whatever it is like, it actually, my concern would be that it would deter people from participating in this.
Normally it would.
Normally it would.
I'm from Minnesota.
I know.
What good is it?
It's blue.
It's always going to be blue.
But here's another thing that's driving.
I believe this will be the biggest turnout in history for the whole country ever because of what's going on right now.
The destruction of our economy.
The things you listed up there, the number one was the economy, the border, the election platforms, those three things.
Well, you're still going to go vote because people know that everything comes from our election platforms.
We got to use what we got.
However broken it is, we've got to use what we got.
No, no, finish, finish.
But people say to me, they go, because there's a big argument, oh, you go out there and be like the Democrats and vote early, and I'm going, rubbish, you know, that's me.
I'll say it straight out, you vote same day, I know from everything I do, you vote same day, you get out to vote.
Of course, if you can't vote early, but I tell people, take those mail-in votes they drop like Michigan, 7 million over the state, go, everybody just have at it, take your vote, your ballot that you got sent, Don't vote early and go in there election day and if they say, oh, you already voted, say, no, I haven't.
It's right here.
Wow.
And that is going to be a great plan.
And we it is at least 10 times harder for them to cheat on election day.
And that's that's coming for me.
I've spent more money and know more about that than these people out there that are saying that.
And I believe we're going to have the biggest vote ever.
Let's jump to this next story.
This is from the Daily Mail.
So this is not the first time we've heard this.
The retail apocalypse issues another stark warning about the U.S. economy.
It's ready to crack.
Bob Nardelli, a respected CEO, blames the Biden administration.
So this is not the first time we've heard this.
There are numerous stories right now where tons of economists,
CEOs are saying the economy is on the verge of shattering.
Quote, what I've seen over the past three and a half years is that a series of debacles and missteps have created a tremendous pressure on the fault lines of our economy, and they're about ready to crack.
Whoever gets the next stint in the White House is going to be hit with a wrecking ball in trying to correct the missteps and the overspending of this current administration.
So we're in for a rough time, I would say.
Mark that!
Take a note down, screenshot it, put it in your phone, because when Donald Trump wins and the economy is in shambles, they're going to blame Trump.
And then when things start getting better, they're going to say, oh, well, it's in spite of Trump.
But I'll tell you this right now.
I can see it.
We can see it in the sentiment on the internet.
You can see it in all of the comments that we get.
And we can see it in ad sales.
We can see it in small businesses no longer buying as much in ads.
I don't know, you guys seem to be doing pretty well though.
You're on the rebound.
We are at MyPillow, but you realize with us, we're a little different.
Every time you see a MyPillow ad, but if I only had to live on that, which times I only had to live on doing a little show.
So I want to make that as best as I can be, and it's tracked by a promo code and a 1-800 number.
every one of them individually. So if it doesn't make it, I don't run it. So when
you see a lot of ads we're doing, it's working. And are we back to where we
were? No. But the part of that is the economy. I can do, you know, I have to say
well is it because of the attacks and everything we've had or is it, you know,
the economy? The economy is definitely affecting.
I have another platform called mystore.com.
It's all entrepreneurs, USA made products.
I've, you know, I give them a safe haven.
All of them without that, they were so hurting.
You know, they're hurting because of, like you say, shipping, everything else with this economy.
And I think, you know, you read that up there that it's going to clack the economy.
I believe if Donald Trump I'll say when he's in.
Just on the, what everybody knows, because he's already been there, done that, and now it's going to be done, now what he's learned, it's going to even be better.
I think everything's going to just be almost faster than you could ever imagine, you know?
And I really believe that.
Just on, you know, you see companies like when they do an IPO, just on the hope or whatever, you know, because he's got something to back it up.
You know, proof of concept.
That's what he is.
He is proof of concept.
People are going to... They announced that Trump wins, say, what is it, November 5th?
Is that election day?
Yeah.
They announced Donald Trump is the winner.
Let's say it's November 6th, 2 in the morning or whatever.
You're going to see the market first thing in the morning go straight up.
All three.
Everyone's going to be buying.
In 16, it started going up about, you know, right when they figured he was going to win.
And you could just see it moving.
And I didn't know anything about the stuff then.
And I asked a guy, I asked a friend of mine, I said, what does that mean?
He goes, it means Donald, somebody knows Donald Trump's gonna win.
Yeah, so Trump is securing the border.
Deportations, control of immigration is going to be better for the economy.
You get these leftists who are arguing that, no, no, the unfettered illegal immigration is good for the economy.
It's not.
It displaces low-skill labor.
It displaces the youth.
And so young people can't find work when they need it.
And they end up sitting around doing nothing, getting good at nothing.
And then by the time they're in their 20s, they're like, I don't know what to do.
Just like with the futures and the stock market that we were talking about.
When Donald Trump was elected last time, the business community was like, alright, this guy is friendly to business.
He understands how difficult it is to do business with all the regulations.
If you have him elected again, you're going to have the economy respond because the people that actually invest and actually build things are going to say, well, look, it will be a friendly business environment.
And signaling that to the economy is a big deal.
Like if you signal to the economy that it's going to be an unfriendly environment for people to invest, for people to try and build their business, they're not going to because the most important thing for most entrepreneurs is preserving capital.
Right, it makes me think of, because the Biden administration placed such a priority on all of the environmental policies, regardless of how they affected business, you'll see headlines that are like, you know, the last two coal mines in New England are shutting, or coal plants in New England are shutting down, and they tout it as this victory, right?
No more coal, it's evil, but they don't want to talk about the jobs that they cost.
They'll say, oh, well, anyone who loses a job because of this program, we're going to transition you to doing this new thing or whatever else.
But ultimately, they are pushing this environmentalist agenda at the cost of the economy.
Can you imagine being a business right now?
And all that is is a story.
All they have to do is be able to come up with a story.
Well, we'll go ahead and make sure people have jobs in this area.
People say, oh, OK, you have a plan.
Then it's fine.
Then it's solved.
But they don't think about the actual, real human beings that have to go through the changing of jobs.
It's not as easy as, oh, well, we'll just get rid of your jobs and we'll plug you into other places.
Human beings are not cogs that can just be placed in positions.
Well, especially if you were someone who had worked in an industry for 20 years.
To be like, actually, now you have to be trained to work on EVs instead.
What are you going to do at that point?
The biggest displacement of jobs, you know, Tim, you hit it there, is this.
When I was in Chicago, I'm doing this big program, Flipping Democrats, right?
I'm going to flip them to this bucket of common sense.
And I've talked to them all.
We had the room full.
By the time we left, I think all 500 were flipped.
There were a lot of Hispanics there.
Yep.
And all of them were very upset of the illegals coming in, because they're losing their jobs to the illegals.
And I talked to that whole, I mean, one after another.
And then now you think of this, those illegals that are working,
you talk about money laundering, think of all the people that are hiring them
that are paying them cash and not paying their taxes, They're probably undercutting them in a wage anyway, because they can save a boy.
So I got a legitimate business with legitimate workers.
And the next door they got the illegal ones.
And they're, of course, they're labor cheaper, everything's cheaper.
And then I'm suffering here.
And then pretty soon that this guy might make a bad decision.
Well, I got to join the join and do the illegals too.
And these guys are losing their jobs.
People need to understand that you pay, I think, $7.50 as a worker, and the business pays $7.50 as an employment tax.
So if a guy comes in and he's like, look, I just need $20 an hour, you go, okay, so after taxes you're going to take home what, $15 or $13 or whatever?
Then I've got to pay on top, so my total cost is going to be $20.
Not interested.
Then an illegal immigrant comes in and he says, I also need $20 an hour.
And you go, you know, it's going to cost me $24 an hour to hire that other guy.
It's going to cost me $20 an hour to hire you.
And you actually keep more of it.
I'll tell you what, I'll give you $18 an hour.
You're not paying taxes anyway.
Saves me six bucks and you're making more.
And that's how they run it.
That's exactly right, and that's why I believe, I believe that's why they didn't make all the illegals legal when they had everything before, when the Democrats did, because I believe that there's all this big money in California, Texas, Arizona, Colorado now, and Minnesota, where they're paying all these illegals cash, and they're not paying federal taxes.
The business owners aren't.
Those are billions of dollars.
That's big money.
Now this is why they're going to.
Two big reasons why Democrats are going to give amnesty.
The first is they want the votes.
Right.
The second is they want the tax revenue to maintain the Social Security Administration.
The concern is that by 2033 the system starts buckling and breaking and then by 2037 it's gone.
Right.
So they bring in 15 million people over the course of a couple years, then overnight they get 15 million new voters, they bolster their majorities in Congress, and they can now target these people with 87,000 new IRS agents to put money into Social Security to prop the system back up.
Good point.
Yep.
Very good point.
That's what they're building.
And then good luck winning elections ever again, when they keep flooding the country and providing amnesty.
We get one shot at this, as far as I'm concerned.
We get one shot.
And one of the things at the rally I was just at, that I spoke at, and Donald Trump said, when he says, as soon as I'm in office, and he was naming the things that we, addressing all those top three, the third one, he said, and I'm going to secure our elections.
And to go to get to paper ballots and count and the crowd went crazy.
So it is that those three things you talk about the economy, the border and our election platform, you've been you secure those three.
And, and I believe we can preserve the American dream.
I want to tell a quick story.
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