Creep Swalwell Floodgates Open with NEW Accusers, and Sydney Sweeney's Shock Baby Scene, with Ruthless and Steve Hilton | Ep. 1295
Megyn Kelly and Steve Hilton dissect Eric Swalwell's resignation amid new rape allegations from Lana Drews, exposing Democratic hypocrisy as Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff protected him until he became a liability. The discussion critiques modern entertainment's shift toward shock value, citing Sydney Sweeney's "sexy infant" scene in Euphoria and Lena Dunham's memoir as examples of offensive exhibitionism, while also attacking Meghan Markle as an attention-seeking grifter whose charity photo ops fail to resonate with the public. Ultimately, the episode argues that both Hollywood and celebrity culture have abandoned artistic integrity for demeaning marketing strategies designed solely to generate viral outrage. [Automatically generated summary]
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The fellas from Ruthless will be here in just a bit with the latest on Trump's feud with the Pope, plus a controversial scene involving Sydney Sweeney from the season premiere of the hit HBO show Euphoria.
They have her dressed as a sexy infant.
That's sick.
That's beyond effed up.
There should be absolutely no such thing in modern America cinema, big screen or small screen.
It's disgusting and it says a lot about the creator of this show.
We'll get into it.
And there is a disturbing photo that they're using to promote it.
First, though, the latest with the dramatic and swift downfall of Eric Swalwell.
Yesterday, we did a deep dive on all the allegations against him.
You should listen to that.
It's the second hour of the show, and we've gotten a lot of very positive feedback on it because it goes through each woman's account and exactly what she's alleged, what their patterns are, and what the.
Arguments are on his behalf, and of course, obviously, on the women's.
We told you that the Democrat congressman had dropped out of the race to be California's next governor amid sexual misconduct allegations.
And if you want to know what he's really been accused of, you go back and listen to that.
Since then, though, the pressure only increased on Swalwell, and he announced last night he's also resigning from his seat in Congress.
That was a question we and many others had been asking.
Why is he fit to be a U.S. House member but not California governor?
In about 30 minutes, we are expecting a press conference where a new accuser is set to reveal more about what Swalwell allegedly did to her.
We don't know whether this is somebody who's been represented in the CBS piece at all.
That's really the one, the CNN piece, I should say.
And CBS did a piece this morning, which we had two accusers speaking out for the first time.
So we're getting, they're coming out of the woodwork.
And we're keeping our finger on the pulse so that we can figure out what the narrative is and make sure we're not having duplicates here that were reported as new accusers.
But there was a woman on CBS this morning who seems honestly like she handled this very well.
Her name is Annika Albrecht, and she says Walwell began sending her inappropriate messages, I think while she was still in college, right?
Still sending her inappropriate messages.
While she was still in college, after they had a group event with him as their congressman, and then an individual message popped up from him to her after the event.
And ultimately, he invited her to meet him at a hotel.
Annika Albrecht was still in college when she says she got what she thought was a big break.
California Congressman Eric Swalwell offering to stay in touch after meeting with her student group in Washington, D.C.
He offered to mentor me.
Wow.
That was as someone who knew virtually nothing about politics at the time or no one, that was just an incredibly generous offer that I felt very lucky to have.
She says Swalwell created a group chat with all the students and then added her as a friend on the messaging app Snapchat.
She says Swalwell, who was then in his late 30s, started out talking politics, but his messages soon turned flirtatious.
Ultimately, it reached a point where he invited me to a hotel to meet him.
It was very clear what the connotation was.
At that point, I completely stopped responding.
What I keep thinking back to is how lucky I am that I didn't go to that hotel.
Good for her.
She knew it.
This reminds me of my interview with Pamela Anderson.
She sat on my set when I was at NBC, and it was the height of the Me Too movement.
I mean, she's Pamela Anderson.
Hello.
Virtually every man in Hollywood took a shot.
She was like the world sex symbol during the peak of her fame.
Post Baywatch, and she was doing barbed wire and all that.
And she would never take a meeting in a hotel room.
She's Canadian.
She has a smart family and a good mom who said to her, like, they're super nice up in Canada, but she knew nice does not require me to say yes to going to meet a director in his hotel room.
She knew not to do it.
And she told me that it was actually a great interview.
She was very smart.
And now we're seeing that side of her.
You know, at the time, we only knew her as the sex symbol, but she's obviously very layered and very interesting.
She's been doing the no makeup thing and so on.
That's why, like, it's very hard to take the women who are like, and he had me meet him at his hotel room all that seriously.
Like, there's only one reason they want you to meet them at their hotel room.
Okay.
Unless there's another person with you and it's like a group meeting, do not go to the damn hotel room.
So, this young woman who was not connected and had no power and really probably could have used this connection was very smart and said, not only did she say no, she cut off all contact.
Good for her.
Ladies, take a lesson.
We also heard this morning from Ali Simarco.
She was featured in that CNN story about the four women yesterday, which included the one woman from the San Francisco Chronicle who's got the alleged rape story.
We dissected that yesterday, and three others.
Ali Simarco is one of the three others who now makes her first on camera appearance with CBS.
Watch.
In 2021, she sent Swalwell a supportive message on Twitter, and to her surprise, he messaged right back.
I was so excited.
I was a low level staffer who had no real political background, and he was this established figure in Democratic politics.
They began to text, but she says he soon asked if she too was on Snapchat, where messages and photos automatically get deleted after they're viewed.
How did the tenor of his conversation change?
It started out as professional and platonic, and then slowly they became more and more explicit.
Asking me what I was wearing.
Then one night he was on a trip and he was laying in his hotel room bed, and then he sent me a photo of his penis.
Oh, okay.
That's lovely.
Classy guy.
I just want to say again for all men out there no woman wants that.
Women don't work the same way men do when it comes to getting turned on.
All right.
You maybe send a picture of your bicep or depending on your situation, your wallet.
Just being honest about some women.
But the dick pics, it doesn't work like that.
Pretty much all men would appreciate a naked photo of a woman.
Women aren't dying to have a naked photo of the guy.
Like, it's just not the like.
Maybe show a picture of a guy like coddling, you know, being nurturing of a baby or playing with a kid on the baseball field.
You're like, that stuff turns on a woman.
It's like caregiver, loving husband, loving partner.
You know, that's hot.
We don't need a dick pic ever.
That doesn't work.
That's for you.
Let's just like the sexy lingerie at Valentine's.
That's for you.
Okay, so there's some free advice for you.
Now, this is all terrible news for Eric Swalwell.
Well, no one gives a shit about him.
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What does it actually mean for the California gubernatorial race?
That's.
Something we do care about.
The Golden State has a unique primary system where the top two vote getters go on to the general election regardless of political party.
The primary is scheduled for June 2nd, but early voting begins early May.
Currently, in the Real Clear Politics average of all polls, which only includes polls conducted before Swalwell dropped out, Republican Steve Hilton, our friend, yay, leads the field at 15.5, where he's been steadily all along.
He's followed here by Democrat billionaire Tom Steyer at 13.
Swalwell here in third.
At 12.5, and Republican Chad Bianco in fourth place at 11.8.
Meanwhile, betting markets show that Steyer's odds have surged into the lead since Swalwell's departure.
What about Katie Porter?
What do you mean?
If we're going to have to deal with a Democrat for four years, it needs to be the angry one for me, really, just for entertainment value.
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Steve, welcome back.
What a couple of days in your crazy race, which we've been talking to you about from the beginning.
So, your reaction to what's happened to Eric's Walwell, what he did to himself?
Yeah.
Well, there's lots to say, Megan.
California Election Drama00:15:18
Great to be with you.
First of all, I think the Katie Porter thing needs to be the mashed potato lady.
I think that's very important that we focus on that.
She is also an alleged abuser.
Exactly.
I don't know.
Also, thank you for the advice.
I don't have a smartphone, as you probably know.
So, I have this flip phone, which when we met, you saw.
So, I even if I wanted to, which I never would, uh, appreciate the advice.
I couldn't send those kind of pictures, but I never would.
You're welcome.
So let's let's look.
I mean, look, first of all, the amazing thing about this is, isn't it always the guys who are the most loud and insufferable?
I'm with women, I stand with women, me too, I'm a champion.
I mean, he's been going on about that for years, Eric Swalwell.
It's just incredible.
It always turns out to be those guys that are the worst, and these stories are just incredible.
First of all, I think it shows the incredible arrogance and contempt for all of us, for regular people, for voters, that Eric Swalwell ran for governor and thought he could get away with this.
That, you know, clear, of course, allegations, we get it, but there's so many.
And it's not just this is all coming out now.
It's been an open secret.
I've used that term because I'd heard about this for months.
I'd heard about it from reporters, from those close to Democrats.
And you've got to believe that the Democrat establishment that was moving behind Swalwell, remember.
So, what was happening until this all blew up was that the key Democrat figures and organizations in California politics were getting behind Swalwell as their guy.
The big unions, the teacher unions, SEIU.
You saw the Nancy Pelosi machine getting behind him with all her acolytes.
Adam Schiff, the leading one, a bunch of members of Congress all endorsing Swalwell.
So, there was this sense in Sacramento, for example, you talked.
In the last few weeks, everyone in Sacramento was saying, Yeah, it's going to be Swalwell.
He's going to be the guy.
But they all knew and they backed him anyway.
Now they have their statements of outrage and distancing, all the rest of it.
They knew.
If I knew, then they knew.
So it shows you their total hypocrisy.
They have no interest in anything other than their own power.
And if he's the useful guy that they can put there as their puppet, it doesn't matter about any of this stuff.
And so I think that we've really got to focus on the rottenness.
Of this Democrat establishment, particularly in California, where they've been in power 16 years of one party rule, no constraint at all.
They've got so arrogant, they're so out of touch with regular people.
Of course, their record is a disaster.
That's the basis of my campaign and setting out a positive alternative.
But the fact that they're now collapsing into chaos and sleaze and scandal, I just think it's one more reason that despite the odds and despite how people look at California, we really do have a shot at kicking them out this year.
Yeah.
I mean, you've been the frontrunner since the beginning.
I noticed Swalwell initially, when he thought he could still save himself in this race, kept saying, But I'm the frontrunner.
I'm the frontrunner.
And I was, of course, I've been watching this because of you.
I'm like, He's not the frontrunner.
Steve Hilton is the frontrunner.
You've been the frontrunner.
He might have been the frontrunning Democrat, but he has not been the frontrunner in this race.
You have been.
And we'll get to whether that's what's behind all of this.
But before we go there, you mentioned Nancy Pelosi.
She's shocked, shocked, shocked to hear about Eric Swalwell.
She would have us believe.
Listen to this.
She doesn't sound right.
She seems to be spiraling here, just in tone.
Take a listen here to SOT 5.
Some Republicans and others are saying that Democrats turned kind of a blind eye, that they knew what he was up to or what the allegations were.
No, that is absolutely positive.
It's true that they may say that, but it is absolutely not true.
You had no idea.
None whatsoever.
None whatsoever.
I had none whatsoever.
What happens in California now?
He was, in many of the polls, the leading candidate.
Yes, he was.
That's gone.
There's an army of candidates out there.
And California has this quirky law, because it's ranked primaries, right?
Well, you could end up with two Republicans on the ballot.
Well, it is.
How does that.
I agree that it is a quirky law.
I do not agree that there'll be two Republicans at the top.
She's seen to that.
I mean, that's my belief.
She made sure.
I think she knifed him because she needed support to consolidate behind somebody.
And she did know.
Of course she did.
You tell me, Steve, is there any way Nancy Pelosi, who's San Francisco's her district?
Exactly.
This is her state.
This is where he's from, too, that she didn't know this?
I mean, the women are coming out of the woodwork.
By the end of the day, we could have maybe a dozen.
Yes.
Let's just be really precise.
Okay.
I don't know.
We don't know whether she knew, but here's what we can say with certainty.
She had heard, right?
It must be the case that she had heard.
The idea that she didn't pick this up, someone like her who prides herself on this iron grip on her caucus and all the rest of it.
And exactly as you say, the California Democratic Party, which is, you know, she's the queen of that.
And, you know, her district in San Francisco, she'd heard it.
Now, she may not have seen evidence, let's say, or whatever, but she absolutely.
Would have heard this because this is not new.
Let's just remind ourselves over a year ago, but before you even thought about running for the race, there was a video, and you've had independent investigative journalists putting out videos of this.
There was a leaked conversation overheard in a Washington restaurant where Swalwell was talking in disgusting terms about how he was, I think I'm quoting, a board with his wife and he would only sleep with someone who was a 10.
It was all on tape.
That was over a year ago.
Also, another thing, very important.
And Steve, on top of that, On top of that, she saved him from the Fang Fang controversy.
That whole Fang Fang Chinese spy situation got him into a lot of trouble.
A Chinese spy was working for him in his office, and there was a question about whether they had an affair.
He denied it.
I mean, now that denial seems less plausible than ever.
And Nancy Pelosi saved him.
There was a push to kick him off of the Intel Committee, and she was like, no, she totally got behind him.
She didn't have any interest in figuring out whether it was true.
She just ran cover for a fellow D. Exactly, because that is what they are.
The machine comes first.
Their power comes first.
All their endless lectures, their sanctimonious lectures about their values and all this is such total BS.
And we can see that now.
There's another thing, very important detail.
So, I mean, this guy's been a hot mess for a while in this campaign.
It's been scandal after scandal.
One of them was whether he even lived in California.
And of course, he doesn't.
His home is in Washington, D.C.
So there's been a lot of reporting around that and the fact that he's got this fake address in his district.
which is basically a room in a house where he's never been.
The California Post did some great reporting there, talked to all the neighbors.
They'd never seen him.
But what was discovered in his campaign finance reports was endless hotel bills in his district and in the Bay Area, including five-star hotels.
That's all public.
And he's charging his donors for that.
Now, why would someone who claims to live in his district be billing his donors for hotel rooms in his district?
Or hotel rooms in the Bay Area.
Good question.
That's been out there for ages.
And it totally connects, of course, to the tape you just played of those people and their testimony about asking them to go to hotel rooms.
So, all of the, you know, the idea that they didn't know or hadn't heard, I just want to be really clear, hadn't heard this stuff.
And therefore, the fact that they were so eager to get behind him, which is exactly what was happening in the last couple of weeks, is just unbelievable.
The business community, everyone, there was a real sense that he was the guy that they were consolidating behind.
One thing I'd say is that one of the things you hear.
In the chatter around all of this, and is particularly coming from the Katie Porter camp, is that actually it was Tom Steyer who kind of engineered this coming out now.
I don't quite understand the theory of how that happened because the stories have been out there for a while.
Well, but it makes sense.
There's no question in my mind that the Democrats did this, that they got this out, because what they saw was the possibility, maybe, God forbid, on their view, of two Republicans making it to the general election, which they didn't want.
Or more realistically, because the other Republican is trailing a bit, you would make it and Swalwell would make it.
And then this would come out in the general.
Right.
And thus ensuring your election.
And so, like, to me, this is a big move against you.
It's not a big move against Swalwell.
I think they understood he was never going to get there because it was getting too hot.
Too many of the women were speaking to CNN, now to CBS, to the San Francisco Chronicle.
The one woman who was on CBS this morning talked about how she made a blog, like, an A blog post saying, you know, this guy's a creep, right?
A bunch of young women have come forward because her friend, this Annika, came to her and she's like, all right, I'm going to do a video.
So they knew.
So they had to turf him before the vote so that you were not going to be facing Eric Swalwell, who you could defeat if this had hit after June.
What do you think?
I think that's right.
I mean, look, this is the arrogance again.
They just think it's unthinkable that you'd have a Republican governor of California, even though their record is so disastrous.
Like, let's just remind ourselves how bad it is.
We have the highest poverty rate in America, tied with Louisiana, the highest unemployment rate of all 50 states, the highest cost of living by far on everything that matters.
U.S. News World Report ranks California 50th out of 50 states for opportunity.
Wallet Hub 50th out of 50 for affordability.
Chief Executive Magazine ranks us 50th out of 50 for business climate 10 years in a row.
Homelessness, crime, the school results for disaster.
Literally everywhere you look, it's a total disaster.
So they know that they're vulnerable because.
People want to change.
I mean, you look at the polls on the state going in the right direction or wrong direction.
It's completely flipped on the Democrats.
Like in the last couple of years, it's gone to a majority who say we're on the wrong track, you know, and sometimes that number is over 60%.
So they know that they're vulnerable.
And I think you're right.
You know, they're so intoxicated with power.
They think they own this state that they have the right to rule it forever, regardless of what they do.
And that kind of arrogance and cynicism, I think, is totally reflected in this story.
What's amazing listening to you rattle off those stats is the current governor of California is considered by many to be the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination.
I mean, right now, according to the last poll we saw, it's between him and Kamala Harris, who's also from California, California's senator before she became vice president.
It's amazing, Steve, how these politicians out there can continue running their state into the ground.
I mean, Gavin Newsom has ruined California.
And still be treated as credible national candidates.
Yes.
And I just want to, for everyone who's listening, and if you may see him watching and you see Newsome out there promoting his pathetic book and doing his campaign, I just want to unpack preemptively the talking points you will get from him.
Number one, oh, we're doing a great job because we're the fourth biggest economy in the world.
That is true statistically.
We're the fourth biggest economy for two reasons.
One, because of the dominant technology sector, which I'm proud of, and we want to be leading in that.
But it generates a huge amount of revenue, but very few jobs.
That's why we have the fourth biggest economy side by side with having the highest unemployment rate and the highest poverty rate.
Secondly, that number for fourth biggest economy includes the government.
That includes just the size of the economy.
They've massively doubled the budget of the state of California in the last 10 years.
They've just bloated the government.
That's why we have the highest taxes in the country.
For the worst results.
So that fourth biggest economy, that's not the private sector apart from technology, that's the government.
So let's remember that.
And then when he talks about how we're dominant, he uses that word all the time.
You listen to him, we're dominant in manufacturing, we're dominant in this and that.
Yeah, what he means is we've got the biggest.
But of course we've got the biggest because we're the biggest state with the highest population and the largest number of most things.
But when you look at the rate, the proportion, for example, of our population living in poverty, it's the highest of any other state.
So he's so sneaky with this stuff, gaslighting everyone on a great job he's doing.
I give one pathetic example.
He did an event the other day about his ridiculous high speed rail thing, right?
And he.
After, I don't know, like nearly two decades, it still isn't built, billions of dollars spent.
It's now going to be like 20 years late, 100 billion over budget.
The last leg of it is now going to be a bus, if you can believe it.
So it's a total disaster, like symbolic of the catastrophe of the whole thing.
He does a press conference, right?
Listen to how he speaks.
And he stands in front of a train, which is not a high speed train, like pretending everything's happening.
And he literally says this We are, and he has got some, you know, like slogan about high speed rail on track.
And he says, We are now entering the track laying phase.
The words he is like making out that they're finally, after nearly 20 years, going to be laying the tracks.
They haven't laid any tracks and there's no plans to lay any tracks and they haven't got the money to lay any tracks.
But he's trying to spin it as something positive.
He says, We're entering the track laying phase.
This guy's just so full of it.
As if it's progress.
I know.
Amazing.
So, all right, what happens now, Steve?
What do you think?
Because, I mean, as I said, if we have to have another Democrat in the A Democrat in the top two.
I'm voting for Katie Porter.
I would like to cover her for four years if I have to.
But here's realistically, walk me through it because even though you're the front runner in this wide, weird primary, if you add together all the people who are backing the Democrat candidates in that primary and you add together all the people who are backing you and Chad Bianco, the Democrat number is much higher.
It's not much higher, it's like nine or 10 digits higher, which doesn't bode well because this is a blue state and the odds of them electing a Republican have always been kind of a long shot.
So What are you hoping for right now?
So let's just take it in two phases the primary and the general election.
The primary, it's very important that we understand something now.
And it's exactly what they want, right?
Which is now that Swalwell's out, you've basically got two candidates in the top tier.
You've got a bunch of what I call the LPDs, the low polling Democrats, who've got no shot.
They're all under 5%.
They're never going to make it.
It's Porter and Steyer.
It's Porter and Steyer, for the latest polls.
100%.
It's those two.
Voter ID Concerns00:07:14
It's going to be one of those two.
Now, here's the thing.
If you do get consolidation behind them, some of Swalwell's votes.
Obviously that's got to go somewhere.
It's likely that it'll split roughly equally between the two of them.
I don't know, we'll see.
There's no poll since he dropped out.
Those two could move up and so actually and this is what i've been saying all year the more likely scenario than two Republicans in the top two is actually two Democrats.
Unless we really consolidate further on the Republican side and that's why my argument to Republicans has been okay, we've got to get behind the leading Republican candidate.
That's clearly me.
All the polls showed that.
You just showed the average Yes.
It's very important that Republicans understand that this idea of having two Republicans in the top two, if it was ever realistic, it's gone.
We've got to be practical.
Get behind the leading Republican.
Then we'll be fine because there's enough Republicans to get me into the top two.
And at this point, my expectation and my plan, although we're the opposite of complacent, we're working harder than ever, is that I'll win the primary.
Now let's look at the general election.
The starting point for how we can win is what I said earlier there's a majority for change in California.
Well, over 50% say we're going in the wrong direction.
That is a good starting point.
Secondly, in a midterm election, it's all about turnout.
It's about who gets their voters out.
And actually, this November, we've got two things that are on the ballot ballot initiatives that have qualified for the ballot that will really help drive Republican turnout.
One of them is Save Prop 13.
That's about tax increases, very popular with Republicans.
The second one, the really big one, is voter ID.
Whatever happens with the Save America Act and all of that in California, we will have the chance to vote for voter ID.
This November.
That's going to really get Republicans out.
I'm doing town halls up and down the state.
Every time I mention Voter ID, huge cheers, big enthusiasm.
The third thing is the fact that you've got these terrible candidates, Steyer and Porter.
I mean, they're not sending their best.
That's an asset to us in terms of winning.
And then the final point I'd make something big is happening in California, particularly with the business community.
They've reached a breaking point.
And so for the first time in 20 years, you're seeing real engagement.
Of business, prompted by the fact that everything's such a disaster, but also this ridiculous billionaires tax.
And they're getting engaged in the fight.
And if it's.
Steven Spielberg and so many others have moved out where I am.
And so, you know, I've got an event in LA tomorrow night.
It's mainly Democrats.
And so there's a sense of, you know, we can't go on like this.
Something's got to change.
Even if, you know, we don't have to sort of become Republicans, but it's 16 years of one party rule is not healthy.
We need a bit of balance.
And so I think that actually, I understand that it's going to be difficult.
I'm the opposite of assuming that the terrible results of this Democrat rule will turn into an automatic victory.
But people are really, it's changing in California.
And so the point about the business community is that for years, Republicans have faced a totally uneven playing field because you've got the unions, especially the government unions, massively spending to elect Democrats.
And the business community has kind of been absent, honestly.
That's changed.
They've had enough.
And so I think that actually, as we go into the general election, and if it's me against Steyer or me against Porter, the business community in California is going to say, that is unacceptable.
We cannot let that happen.
And so for the first time in at least 20 years, we may have a fair fight in terms of the resources that we'll have to get our message out there.
I think you would do best against Katie Porter because at least Dyer has a reputation of being more reasonable.
She doesn't.
And you should be getting ads made for her right now talking about how she's been treated wrongly because she's a woman, about how anger is an acceptable emotion and that people have been too hard on her.
Try to rehabilitate her a little, Steve, so that she can be the one.
Do it for me.
Well, I'm sorry.
Because I would love to watch that race.
There's no way she beats you.
I'm seeing her at the next TV debate, it's next week, the 22nd.
So we'll see how that all goes.
Plays out, yeah.
Oh, I have one piece of advice for you stay the out of her shot.
She doesn't like that, exactly.
Exactly.
By the way, one last thing okay, tiny we'll be watching, make it just a very quick thing just an indication that this is going to be possible.
The first TV debate it was me against six Democrats, statewide TV audience.
Oh, they cancelled it.
No, no, the one before that, the very first one, isn't that a couple of months ago?
It was me against six Democrats, statewide TV audience, not a Republican audience.
And they said who won the debate, who made the best impression.
They were all basically under 10 apart from one.
I won that with 66%.
So that tells you something about the appetite for change.
Something's happening in California.
Plus, you're very charming.
They're just getting to know the charming men we've known for years, and they're responding well.
So, this is great.
I never thought you'd be this strongly positioned only because it's such a blue state.
So, I'm thrilled that you are.
And you raise a good point about the other Republican.
Chad, no offense, but get out, consolidate behind Steve, do it for the love of country.
Great to see you, my friend.
We'll continue watching.
Thank you, Megan.
Great to be with you.
All right, coming up, the fellas from Rootless are here.
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Much more to get to on Eric Swalwell and a lot more.
Joining me now are pals Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook, the fellas from the Ruthless program.
Welcome back, guys.
Great to see you.
Great to see you too, Megan.
It's, you know, we were comforted by you keeping such a low profile and being so uncontroversial since we last chatted.
You know, it's sometimes fun, sometimes not fun being on the pointy end of the spear, but usually fun.
Usually fun.
Usually fun.
So good to be back with you.
It's like my old palate, Tom Lowell Fox, used to say, Darling, you like to go to the place that hurts.
That's what he used to say.
So good.
It's very true.
Okay, so you may have missed the top of the hour where we gave free advice.
Not that you guys need it, but don't ever send a dick pic.
Just don't do it.
Period.
End of report.
It shouldn't be a thing.
Yeah.
But it's amazing to me that this Eric Swalwell was sending.
I mean, think about like as a sitting congressman, and this is your business, right?
Advising these politicos who want that job that he has.
Think about the recklessness of texting young college girls who had just met you on Capitol Hill on a one on one, come see me at a hotel.
Or, hey, that bathing suit picture.
But think of the hubris it takes to actually take down your pants and send a naked photo of your member.
What is that?
Because that's what she wants.
They're all begging for that.
I mean, a couple of observations off the top.
We have long contended here on the Ruthless Variety program that the The first time that you see something like that is most definitely not the first time somebody has done it.
That is a tried and tested move.
It's not something that you just sort of like do, you know?
I mean, we've thought about that all the way back to.
Just try it out.
Yeah, right.
I mean, it's just like this is part of the plan, apparently, of course.
Like sending an emoji.
Yeah, right.
It's like, wow.
Totally, same thing.
But then, like, the second observation was the circumstance in particular with which this one arose with Swalwell.
Which is, you had a young Democratic staffer who was interested in working on Capitol Hill, had met Eric Swalwell.
Somehow they exchanged numbers.
He agreed to have an interview with her.
And, lo and behold, a couple days later, Powie, right in her inbox.
It's so hard to even process.
Like you said, the hubris, the arrogance, all that.
On that junior staffer, she's what I'm calling accuser number one because she's the most prominent one.
She hasn't yet gone on camera.
She has, but not.
Outside of Silhouette.
And an important fact on her allegations, I'm not excusing anything Swalwell did, but the way she told the story was he first asked her if she would send him nudes, and she did.
Come on.
So I gotta say, in his defense, at that point, you're probably feeling okay about sending your own nudes.
That might be don't hate the player, hate the game territory.
I mean, success.
Do we wanna stay married after this segment?
Because I have a lot of.
Thoughts about this, but like, you know, I think it's interesting.
Your wife agrees with this.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
But what strikes me, Megan, is these California Democrats who've lived this charmed life.
And I know you had Hilton on earlier where they've ruled the state for so long that they have gotten incredibly reckless, right?
And he was like a made man in the Pelosi orbit for a very long time.
And clearly that went to his head.
But now that she's sort of on the way out, what is she, Speaker Emeritus, some made up title, like it's tenure.
a tenured professor.
Yeah.
Clearly that's all sort of crumbled now.
Yeah, she doesn't get it.
She's just on camera.
We played it with Steve Hilton of her being like, no idea.
I had no idea.
I mean, you guys tell me whether that is plausible.
It's absolute nonsense.
I mean, under no circumstances is it true that she had no idea that she and Swalwell share a team.
Yeah.
Like, one of Swalwell's fixers went to work for Nancy Pelosi.
Like, 100% she knows.
Oh, like an actual team member?
She is lying through her teeth, as she often does.
But the point is.
Democrats have gotten away with this for a very long time, and they always do.
And you look in other states, and maybe it's not as explosive as the Swalwell situation.
But in every single state where Democrats have full control of not just the legislature and the governor's mansion, but also the media, they are never asked tough questions.
Nobody ever presses them, and therefore they get away with things year after year after year, and then they start getting loose and they start thinking they can get away with it.
And the next generation of Democrats thinks they can get away with a little bit more.
And so.
I mean, I blame Democrats, but I also blame the media here because easy press makes sense.
Well, I mean, I think that's a really good point.
Megan, like, can you imagine a scenario where some Democratic leader has appointed somebody as the attack dog, the number one voice of opposition to an incumbent president?
And that person is on TV all day and every day.
And imagine that person is a Republican.
Do you think for one second that if it was widely known on Capitol Hill that they were sending dick pics and propositioning women and worse, that that wouldn't have come out?
Of course, because if you're a Republican, And you are the point person, it doesn't matter whether you did something or not, somebody's going to allege it, and the media's going to report it.
They took Mitt Romney's binders full of women and made him into a misogynist.
They turned him into Harvey Weinstein.
Can you imagine?
A Republican basically has to adjust himself through his pants and they will, I mean, that's it.
He's done.
Never mind, like, he's rubbing himself on the airplane and sending me pictures on camera with a woman.
Like, and he still thought he could withstand it.
Like, the first couple of days, he's like, I'm not going anywhere.
Like, he's like, bitch, I'm Eric Swalwell.
I got Nancy Pelosi in my back.
Pocket, you don't want to know what I have in the front pocket, and I'm going to weather this storm.
Sort of like a baby carrot, if I'm guessing.
I'm just saying, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
Well, you all thought it allegedly reported, yeah, you all thought it.
It could be, but but you know, the way the way that the media is patting themselves on the back in the wake of this Swalwell story is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in modern journalism.
I don't know if you saw Brian Stelter, who went on CNN and starts talking about how great the media is.
Doing these investigations.
One thing that we know about the mainstream media is that they only attack a Democrat if it's in service of a second Democrat.
You just had a great conversation with Steve Hilton.
I hope to God that that guy can get over the finish line in California because what good would it do for the state?
But my point is the media, while they're patting themselves on the back about how well they're doing on Swalwell, all of a sudden, you know, they have no interest.
You know, that video, for example, there's a famous video that's flying all over Twitter of Swalwell.
French kissing some, you know, sex worker, right?
That's a French kissing.
He's grabbing her and pulling her back on a bed.
I've never once heard a single reporter ask, Who took that video?
Who is that sitting next to you on the bed?
Whose Nikes are those?
Whose beard is that?
I'm not saying it's Ruben Gallego's because we have no evidence.
He hasn't said it's him or hasn't said it's not him, but nobody's asked the question.
This is a guy who Eric Swalwell and.
And he loved to travel with Eric Swalwell.
That was his BFI.
He was the chairman of his.
Presidential campaign.
The video was taken during the time that Eric Swalwell was running for president.
My point is, if this, you know, what you said earlier, if you were Republican, it would be very different circumstances.
If he were Republican, every mainstream media reporter would be like, Who took the video?
Who is that in there with you?
And make him deny it.
Very true.
Yeah, in a weird way, Hilton being so successful in this jungle primary is the reason all this swalwell hunt is coming out.
Right?
Because they are so nervous they're going to get locked out of the runoff in this thing.
And so the Democratic establishment, these other campaigns, the whole grassroots.
A component of the Democratic Party are now trying to get rid of Swalwa for that reason.
And Duncan, you saw it.
He is charming.
Steve Hilton, yes, he's a Republican.
Yes, it's California.
But Hilton is charming in a very disarming way that I'm sure they find extremely threatening.
And to your point on the media, what would the San Francisco Chronicle have done if this woman came to them?
When it was a general and it was Steve Hilton versus Eric Swalwell.
Oh, you know what they would have done.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That would have been a real catch and kill situation.
Yeah.
They would have been like, ah, they would have been doing the fair and balanced report that I did yesterday, which brought a little bile into my stomach because I have zero desire to help Eric Swalwell.
But I did take a hard look at the allegations and I raised points about she sent him the nudes first, according to her testimony, you know, like all those points.
They would have read all that and they would have been like, hmm.
She's really not a credible accuser.
I don't think we can go with it.
You know, this is, you're in the middle of a general campaign.
You know, you don't want to interfere in a way that's unfair.
That's how it would have gone down.
They all jumped on board.
It was like CNN, San Francisco Chronicles, CBS News queuing up these women like within hours because they knew he had to go.
The stakes are too high.
We played a great clip on our show this morning of him during the Kavanaugh era.
I think he was on with Ari Melber or somebody from MSNBC back in the day.
And was saying, like, well, either four women who have never met each other, don't associate with each other, but all have similar stories about Kavanaugh are telling the truth, or he's the most unlucky person in the history of the world.
Meanwhile, he's got all that going on.
And no one asked him the question.
I guess that's the point, right?
It was widely known now, according to X, and you read all the stuff that beat reporters were talking about.
My favorite, by the way, was like, oh, yeah, I knew all of that stuff, but it wasn't my beat.
I couldn't report it.
I couldn't talk about that.
They are actually saying that.
But here's the question.
Okay, so San Francisco Chronicles is interested in the story.
Got it.
And he's from the San Francisco region, right?
I think that's his hometown, or it's near his hometown.
And so they're super interested in the Eric Swalwal story now.
Where were they over the past three, four, five, six years?
Okay?
Because Ronan Farrow, had he been hired by the San Francisco Chronicle, would have been looking at this 100%.
As it turns out, he's devoted the past four years to taking down Sam Altman in a devastating piece that he just released.
But my point is simply if you have the interest in this kind of story, you do hear the rumblings.
Yeah.
I'm wondering about the New York Times.
Like, where is Megan Toohey?
Like, that sort of the Me Too beat reporters, where were they?
Because the whiff around this guy for years now has been.
He's a perverted creep from Fang Fang, which was very public and in front of the scenes, to like, look how little it took.
One little thread was pulled by the San Francisco Chronicle, like the one woman.
And now they're in the midst of a press conference.
I'm going to play you the sound bite in two minutes of the latest accuser to come.
Like, they came running, running.
Just one reporter needed to pull a little thread.
So, yeah, where was the interest from the San Francisco Chronicle and others two, three, four years ago?
He's a useful pervert.
He's a useful pervert.
He was out there willing to say the most incendiary things possible about Donald Trump and Republicans.
That's it.
And that's it.
Right there.
Because in this whole story, we can't lose what a Trump antagonist he has been.
He's been like the face of Trump antagonism.
And he and Adam Schiff, who just got promoted to senator from what state?
Oh, California.
Right.
And then there's Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, wait, where's she from?
Okay.
Right.
So it's like.
The cabal protects its own until you're no longer useful.
And then you will get Nancy Pelosi's stiletto up your ass.
No, it's true.
And you know, look, like we used to have, Johnny and I used to work in Senate leadership.
And if allegations surfaced in any material way, certainly like that video that you were talking about last segment, where he's talking about I only banged tens and things like that.
Like if that stuff comes out, you have a very serious conversation with your member.
You certainly don't appoint them to be the point person.
To attack a sitting president of the United States because you know the liability associated with that.
They didn't feel, they didn't think anybody would care.
And they thought they could just steamroll the media.
It doesn't matter what information people have, it's the information flow that they think they control that matters here.
And that is the way that Democratic leadership has worked in perpetuity for so many generations.
It's crazy.
You get a new media environment and some of this stuff starts coming out, like that video that we were just speaking about, but it didn't really take hold in the mainstream media until he presented a liability.
To the Democratic Party.
Now everybody's interested in it.
The women can't wait to come forward.
Everybody's talking about it.
It's like, I don't think that you can divorce anything that we've learned here in the last 48 hours with a partisan opportunity that Democrats have by having Eric Swalwell exit stage left.
They do control the information flow.
That was very well said.
And it's not just Eric Swalwell.
You were talking about Katie Porter and her volcanic temper.
Old potato.
Yeah, we call her mashed potatoes and crazy over here at the Ruthless Variety Program.
Katie, can we just before you make that point, let's just You know, for old time's sake, let's watch SOT 10.
Let's just watch that.
Oh, yes.
This is why I didn't want to study the lights off, the bright lights.
I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on.
Bernard, I need you to turn these off.
These that are killing me.
Oh, no, Bernard.
Hang on one second, everybody.
We should put the computer on.
Yes, yes, we should have.
Katie Porter Temper00:02:55
Yes.
Okay, everybody.
It's not that dark.
It's too dark.
There's a turn.
Oh, God.
Just a minute.
Oh, it's back on.
Okay, everybody.
I'm sorry about that.
I am in a TV studio getting ready to go on Cuomo.
And so I had all those studio lights on me, and I couldn't see myself or see you guys.
We have more coming, of course.
We've got the money shot as well that everybody wants to see, but keep going, Ashley.
She's an absolute lunatic.
And that divorce filing that described her throwing the steaming mashed potatoes on her husband's head, it also described how she took a broken coffee pot and went after him with the glass.
Like, there is story after story about her very early in her career.
This is 2018 when she first ran for the coffee, right?
And a lot of reporters were presented with this filing, and they were like, nah.
I don't want to write it.
You know why they didn't want to write it?
Because she was an acolyte of Elizabeth Warren.
She was a made woman in their machine.
And therefore, the media was not going to tell the true story about her.
She was running in a primary against other Democrats.
There was a Democrat who probably would have voted up and down for Pelosi.
She was closer to Elizabeth Warren and closer to the power structure.
Therefore, she was protected.
And it wasn't until like three cycles later that the media was like, okay, well, you know what?
We're willing to write the story.
Based on the divorce filing, which is a court document.
You know, it's not like all available.
It's not like some Republican researcher digging something up and saying, no, trust me, this is a story.
These are official documents.
Yeah.
And her temper, obviously, you've got great video you just played and more to come.
But it wasn't until a Democrat pitched the story.
Exactly.
Everyone knew it.
It wasn't until a Democrat pitched the story, so it's in service of another Democrat, that you learned anything about Katie Porter.
But you don't even have to read the divorce filings.
If you just watch that video and you see her.
Eyes change.
It's in the eyes.
Oh, yeah.
You can tell.
Crazy eyes are definitely.
She scares you.
There was another great interaction that she had with a reporter from CBS.
The reporter's like, So, why are you running for Congress?
And she was like, Fuck you.
How dare you ask me that question?
She just loses her mind on this kid.
Out of her mind.
No, it was amazing.
That's why I kind of secretly love her.
Her absence of anger management makes her very interesting and fun to watch.
Whatever she does, it needs to be higher office.
Like, I don't care if it's California.
She needs to, like, She needs to become more prominent in the Democrat Party.
I think she should consider throwing her hat into the presidential race.
Oh, yeah.
A1 content.
But, yeah.
So she, whatever, we'll see whether she's the one who takes on Steve Hilton, but they knifed him.
There's no question they knifed Eric Swalwell.
The Democrats did it.
They were the ones who knew it.
I don't know how they orchestrated it, but they're very good at orchestrating.
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It's actually rather disturbing.
I mean, this guy may be some kind of monster.
We're going to show it when we come right back, but shit's getting even more serious and much, much more to come.
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Allred Lawyer Defense00:14:37
Perfect.
Okay.
I'm sorry, Team Katie.
Team Katie, that's the next governor of California, possibly right there.
Welcome back to the Megan Kelly Show.
The fellas from the Ruthless Variety Program are my guests today.
Guys, how can you not love her a little?
Yeah, I mean, that's the way Smug operates with all of us around here.
It's a shame he's gone today, but that's basically the same feeling.
Is that at all in our shot today?
It's the same feel that we get.
I mean, she's just such a monster.
It's hilarious because you're right about the crazy eyes.
Like, you see, there's something that provokes, and then all of a sudden, she flips into like.
Pure sociopathy.
No, I'm telling you, I'm Team Katie.
That girl should not have been in the shot correcting her as she was issuing her information.
I don't care.
I'm on Team Katie there.
I think she should give me an interview.
I think we would bond.
I would be like, you know what?
She had no right doing that to you.
What the?
It would be, everybody would watch this.
Okay.
Wait.
There's more though.
So now, now it just got, shit's getting real for Eric Swalwell.
So we found out yesterday that.
Alvin Bragg, the DA in Manhattan, infamous DA, is opening up a criminal probe into Swalwell because the young woman who is alleging that she had not one but two extremely drunken interludes with him, including both, where she says they had sex, which she says she was blacked out.
If that's true, there's not consent and it could potentially be rape legally.
And the second of those incidents happened in New York City.
So Alvin Bragg is now opening a legal probe into Swalwell, which now that's Serious as a heart attack.
And now, this woman, they had teased that she was going to come out.
I said to my team, let me guess with Gloria Allred, it's Gloria Allred's daughter, Lisa Bloom, her lawyer.
Yeah, that's the lawyer.
And so, you know, anybody, I have to be honest, anybody who comes out with Allred or the daughter, there's a segment of the population that's going to say, I don't believe a word you say because you're looking for publicity.
I will say these are good lawyers.
You know, they know what they're doing.
So, you know, keep an open mind.
But here she is, this latest accuser.
I mean, this is next level.
Her name is Lana Drews.
She says this happened in 2018.
She's in the entertainment industry.
She's not a journalist.
One thing just to point out, as I said, for an hour we went through the Swalwell allegations yesterday as we knew them.
And the one thing I kept saying was that these women seemed to be intimating that there might have been a date rape drug used by him.
No one said it explicitly, but the women, there was a pattern emerging as you looked at the stories of like, I was extremely intoxicated, I blacked out.
And he was on top of me.
And no one said it.
I just was gleaning that they might have been intimating.
Well, this woman does more than intimate.
Listen.
In 2018, while I was living and working as a model in Beverly Hills, and I also owned a fashion software company, I had contact with Eric Swalwell on three separate occasions after meeting him socially.
He offered me connections to further my software company.
And I also had an interest in local politics.
He invited me to two public events.
I knew he was married at the time and that his wife was pregnant.
He was my friend.
On the third occasion, I believe he drugged my drink.
I only had one glass of wine.
He, we were supposed to go to a political event and he said he needed to get paperwork from his hotel room.
When I arrived at his hotel room, I was already incapacitated and I couldn't move my arms or my body.
He raped me and he choked me.
And while he was choking me, I lost consciousness.
And I thought I died.
I did not consent.
Oh, my God.
Different level.
One more.
This is from her lawyer, Lisa Bloom.
Immediately, we will be filing a police report with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office, which is the law enforcement agency that has jurisdiction over incidents that happen in West Hollywood.
Lana is committed to fully. cooperating with law enforcement and we will do everything possible to assist and support her in that.
We will be providing all of her evidence there, including text messages, journal entries, photograph, and witness information.
Lisa Bloom also adding that three more women have contacted her about Swalwell.
Guys, this just took a turn.
Yeah.
And a very, very dark one.
It's one thing if he's just like a pervert, and it's quite another if this is some sort of a.
Date rape, serial rapist.
He denies all charges.
He claims they're completely untrue.
The ones that are accusing him of sexual assault, he says.
He says everything else is a matter between him and his wife.
And we don't know anything about this woman.
I have to say, in his defense, we have no idea what her credibility is, whether she's got an axe to grind.
All of that needs to be investigated.
But just on its face, that's extremely serious and devastating.
No kidding.
No, I mean, it's where it travels from being a creep to being a monster.
Right.
And, you know, You hate to hear it.
And you can see the pain in that woman's face.
It's just, it's awful.
And I do understand conceptually the idea that when a whistle is blown on a potential monster, as is being alleged of Swalwell here, how other women could find the courage to come forward and wouldn't do so before.
What irritates me about this entire situation is that her pain or somebody else's could have been prevented in the first place.
If somebody did a little bit of due diligence on what appears to be a pattern over a long period of time, but as long as this man was saying the right things to the right people and the wrong things about the right people, he was fine in Democratic Party politics.
He was protected.
He was a made man.
He was put in charge of things.
I mean, this guy sat on the Intelligence Committee for crying out loud.
Will you trust this guy with your secret?
I mean, I guess he knew how to keep a secret.
But other than that, what an absolute monster.
And it's just, it's the sickening part.
Of politics, and in particular, Democratic politics, where they think if you don't find out about something, that's perfectly fine as long as somebody like Eric Swalwell is in service of their larger mission, which is to try to destroy conservatism, Donald Trump, or the Republican Party.
Mm hmm.
Enough for nothing, guys, but that was 2018, she said.
He got married in 2016.
And as you heard her say, his wife was pregnant at the time, which she knew when she was, you know, seeing him.
But it's just so disgusting.
Not that it's great to cheat 10 years in either, but like two years, you didn't even make it two years before you cheated on your pregnant wife.
Like that's just next level demonic.
But Holmes, unfortunately, it's not just Democrats, because this guy Tony Gonzalez is going to go too.
And his allegations.
Are awful.
They're awful.
Now, they're not the same as Swalwell, but he's now being forced to resign early because he had an affair with a junior staffer who was married, and he was married with six children.
And he was sending her inappropriate texts.
There's a record of them.
Her husband found out.
Her husband was livid, and she set herself on fire and killed herself.
And this guy has been lingering on in the House.
He said, I'm not going to seek reelection, but he didn't step down.
And no one made him step down because the Republicans have a very, very slim majority in the House.
I mean, and now in the wake of Eric Swalwell being forced out, he's like, OK, I'll go too.
And now the Republicans are like, OK, we can sacrifice one because they're losing one, which is also very skeevy.
Yeah, I think it's different.
Honestly, I mean, if you look at the sequence of events on the Gonzalez thing, which is horrible, absolutely ridiculous, in both terms of power structure within that office, the fact that it was a staffer, the fact that obviously there were mental health issues involved, and what ultimately became a very tragic situation.
But when all this came to light, it was presented to Speaker Johnson, and they immediately said, This guy needs to go.
He should not run for reelection.
I mean, it was very close in proximity to when this comes out, and it wasn't driven.
By Speaker Johnson.
Like these were evidence, these were things that were happening that we were all learning at the same time, and appropriate action was taken.
Now, should he have had a vote to expel him?
I mean, that's an argument that you could make, certainly.
But as this happened, Republicans had no.
It was all harm, and yet he went out and said he should not run for re election when he was in a tight re election race, thereby risking the seat altogether.
There's not a single Democrat that did that.
In fact, Swalwell, it wasn't.
Until he posed a problem to the Democratic Party, we started learning this.
And I would suggest this whole thing was pitched by the Democratic Party to begin with, which is certainly not the case with the Gonzalez thing in terms of its politics.
Now, in terms of its practical impact, they're both horrible situations, obviously very different in a lot of different ways.
And they should both have no business representing anybody in the United States Congress.
But there is a different political impact in how the leaders have handled each situation.
Yeah, and it doesn't stop.
I don't know.
It doesn't stop with those two.
I don't think we can rehabilitate anybody on Tony Gonzalez.
He's disgusting.
He's a filthy pervert.
To her credit, Anna Paulina Luna was among the first to say, he's got to go.
Get him out of here.
And he is getting out of there.
But like, and look, this is, I think the swallow-wall thing suggests a conspiracy at every level of Democrat politics.
I just think, I think Nancy Pelosi knew.
I think Hakeem Jeffries knew.
I wonder if Gavin Newsom knew.
I think Adam Schiff knew.
Totally.
This is just my supposition based on their power and their party, and the fact that this seemed to be an open secret and they know everything.
They're California Democrats.
So I just think it's very different if you know you've got a serial possible rapist on your hands versus a guy who's a disgusting, filthy pervert who had an affair with one woman.
And by the way, there's a second woman alleging he sent her dick pics and had naughty texts with her, another staffer in his office.
So he's going, this Gonzalez character, but they're equally, I mean, they're both awful, but there are degrees of awfulness.
Well, yeah, and Megan, I mean, the The thing that makes me a little bit uncomfortable in this whole thing is, you know, this is the United States Congress.
It's like not the NFL draft.
It's not like two teams they get to trade picks with a player determined later.
It's like who we kick out of Congress.
Totally.
I think it cheapens the whole process.
And what I would hate to see happen is it's like, oh, well, you get one, we get one, they're both gone, we wipe our hands, and then we don't actually get to the bottom of all this stuff with Swalwell.
That's really my concern is like there is a process of justice here that victims, if they are actual victims, deserve.
And I don't.
Like entering into that political sphere.
You won't read anything about Eric Swalwell in three weeks.
They solved the problem.
They solved the problem.
So true.
There is no problem.
How many other problems are there?
Yeah, well, yes.
But it's not until it becomes a problem for the democratic hierarchy that you learn about it.
And once that's solved, it's over.
Like this victim, I feel horrible.
This tape that you just played, she's not going to read a single thing about any justice administered until.
Or unless they bring charges and he has to stand before a court.
It will not be covered.
The problem is solved from a media perspective.
Everyone's talking about this old Madison Cawthorn soundbite.
He was a member of the House who got pushed out for being kind of awful.
I don't like what was the general buzz around him?
No, I think that's a fair assessment.
And now he's renewing this comment online, and there are some who are in the House saying, Take a seat, Madison, which I guess is not the best phrase because he is wheelchair bound.
But here he is in a warning about what really goes on behind the scenes in Congress before he was pushed out in 2022.
The sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, I mean, being kind of a young guy in Washington, the average age is probably 60 or 70.
And I look at all these people, a lot of them that I've looked up to through my life, I've always paid attention to politics, guys that, you know, then all of a sudden you get invited to, like, well, hey, we're going to have kind of a, A sexual get together at one of our homes.
She's come.
They're like, What did you just ask me to come to?
And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy.
Or the fact that there's some of the people that are leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country.
And then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you.
And it's like, This is wild.
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I mean, okay.
I don't know that I've been invited to an orgy.
Have you fellas?
Where was this stuff when I was 22?
Yeah.
I mean, that was like, at 22, that was an orgy.
I've been like, you got to be kidding me.
You think you would have done it, Duncan?
No.
He'd have been in on the orgy, Megan.
He's not telling the whole truth.
Now, the funny thing is, you hear this stuff from time to time, and that guy is like the least credible person in the history of the world to talk about any of it.
Maybe that was his experience.
I would suggest it's probably the friends that he chose that provided that opportunity.
For him.
But, you know, you hear about this from time to time, and either it's totally untrue, or the 20 years that I spent in and around Capitol Hill were a charmed existence.
And one that.
Or just nobody wanted you, Holmes.
Do you think?
Megan, that's harsh.
I feel like I'd be invited to orgies.
That's unbelievable.
I think you would.
I have to say, I think you would.
My friend.
But this is, I mean, look, I don't know if I'm just like most blessed to have had the experience that I had.
Or unblessed.
Or unblessed.
I mean, look, there would have been some things to write a great tell all if I would have had a different experience.
It's like Trump.
Unfortunately, that's just the way it's been.
Women let the celebrities grab them by the P word and they don't complain.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, I wasn't famous.
I wasn't famous.
They didn't let me do it.
Okay, I don't know what's going on in Capitol Hill, but I will say, you know, having lived on this earth as a professional for a long time, every business is gross.
There are gross people in every business who are going to pervert it, corrupt it, do the wrong thing.
It's life.
You know, maybe some industries are worse than others.
I would certainly say, you know, news is pretty disgusting up and down the business.
Politics seems equal, they're kind of the same gig.
I would say my law days, I didn't see this kind of stuff.
Lawyers can be skeezy.
At my level, where I was, it wasn't like this.
Lawyers have to take a whole ethical oath and test to pass the bar.
And I think they work so hard for their careers.
They know they could lose them so easily and it can get disbarred.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm being a Pollyanna about the law, but I just don't remember anything like this stuff.
There were affairs and things like that, but like this is crazy.
So I don't know.
I'm disappointed to see so many of our elected representatives be disgusting.
And I really, I'm very, very pro throwing them out.
Like, as soon as we find out, get out.
Yeah, but it's another one way to get out of the crowd.
But I also want to caution that a touch.
In that, A, that has not been my experience.
But B, you know, I was reminded when people are surfacing these kind of things about how, like, you yourself, being a public figure, had to undergo just incredible, salacious, ridiculous, rumor mongering, untrue bullshit in your career just simply because you were successful and the network you were on was successful.
And so people wanted to talk about it and alleged things and almost became incumbent upon you to sort of defend.
Yourself and with completely untrue things that are being said about you.
I don't want to do that to Congress as a whole.
Are there some bad folks?
No question about it.
I genuinely believe, and at least it's been my experience, the vast majority of them that are up there are doing the people's business and they're doing the best thing that they possibly can.
I do not think that there are swallowels at every corner.
And so I just To it myself to get the throw the bums out, get them all out of here.
They're all jerks and pedophiles and thieves and everything else.
And I just don't think that personally that is the case.
See, this is why you don't get invited to the orgy.
I know.
It's why I'm not at the orgy.
It's just.
No, this would get him invited.
This is what gets you invited, where he's like, eh, let's be slow to judge.
I'll defend.
I'll defend.
Like, I don't know.
I didn't see anything myself.
The heart was.
That's what it was.
I want to correct myself.
I didn't get the audio.
Tony Gonzalez, according to the San Antonio Express.
I think we got an audio issue.
Uh oh.
I just want to say because Tony Gonzalez did not send a dick pic.
He solicited a nude photo from another staffer and he sent sexually explicit messages.
So just to be clear, he wanted the sexual photos to be incoming.
He didn't yet send one outgoing, as far as we know.
So that's that.
I don't know.
I will say this like, the odds of getting accused by, like, A dozen people of the same exact thing, and there being no truth.
That's a bridge too far.
It's one thing, like, well, you take the Gonzalez situation.
If it had been one staffer who came forward and it was like, well, is this a consensual affair that these two had?
But this thing spun so out of control, and the woman's results were so devastating.
She died by suicide in the most horrific way.
She clearly was very manipulated and traumatized by this guy.
But then she was manipulated and traumatized by the fact that her husband found out about the affair.
That was part of the driving factor there.
It just couldn't be ignored.
I know it's just, it couldn't.
But with Swalwell, it's like, I don't know how many we're going to get total.
And it seems to be on a downward slope toward more and more severe.
It's just like, in my experience, you don't get a dozen accusers coming forward when there's absolutely no there, there.
With Trump, it was different because he was at the highest levels of politics and they threw everything in him.
And he had had years as like a playboy man about town where, you know, he admitted that.
He was a bit of a bore with women.
And so.
It was hard with Trump to actually understand exactly, like, what's the boorish behavior of a celebrity playboy and what's a Me Too situation?
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You know, like that ridiculous person who sued him, claiming that he raped her and Bergdorf Goodman.
I didn't believe one word from that, E. Jean Carroll.
Not one word, which is my right, by the way, E. Jean, in case you're getting any ideas of suing me.
I don't believe you.
That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
In any event, okay, let's keep going because there's other news to get to on Capitol Hill and I want to get to a lot of it.
But before we do Capitol Hill, Now we're on the subject of perversion.
Can we talk about Sydney Sweeney for a second?
Terrific.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, Sydney Sweeney, who I think you're in favor of, she stars in the show Euphoria, which I've never seen.
But that's how I guess she kind of became a star, starring in that.
And then she was in a couple of other things.
But this is where her main vehicle is.
And they are teasing the next season of Euphoria.
Okay.
This thing is.
Made by Sam Levinson, who is a filmmaker and actor and the son of director Barry Levinson, who's very famous.
He, Sam, is the creator of Euphoria.
And they have just teased the third season of Euphoria with the following with a little like video showing what's going to be happening with Sydney Sweeney's character, where I guess she's going to become a social media influencer and she's going to be like an OnlyFans actress.
And I'm sorry, forgive me, viewer warning.
A little heads up button there.
I'm a big eagle, Megan.
Oh, my God.
On a couch.
It's definitely R rated.
Sorry.
Oh, and we're zooming in.
I'm sorry.
Forgive me.
Holy cow.
This is going to change the trajectory of my day, Megan.
You could have given us a heads up.
She's dressed as a baby.
She's in a baby's outfit.
She's sucking on a binky pacifier, and her legs are completely spread.
And I. Like it's, you can have a laugh, of course, because it's just, I shocked you.
But the truth is, this is like, this is sexualizing infancy.
That's what this is.
And some of the write ups about this are like, it's a pretty common kink.
What?
Wanting, getting turned on by a baby?
Like, what?
What do you, what?
I've never heard, no.
Um, Okay, so this is sick.
And this guy is promoting this.
I can't believe she agreed to this, frankly, and was in this.
Like, we just took the screen grab from the trailer.
There's also a picture of her dressed as a dog being led around on a leash.
And I think this guy's sick.
This guy, Sam Levinson, like, because there are reports of him injecting nudity into the Sydney Sweeney scenes so often she went to him and said, Please stop doing this.
It's very gratuitous.
And now all these other women have come forward saying he.
Injected nudity into their scenes too.
He constantly wants the women to take their clothes off for like scenes that don't require them to be nude at all.
And he just keeps putting in every scene, and all these women want to be stars.
And so, you know, few say no, but the ones who do, somehow it leaks, you know, because they're clearly trying to tell us that this guy is, at a minimum, a jerk and more than likely a problem.
So, I think this is another example, guys, of Hollywood not understanding at all where the line is and how most normal people are going to recoil, even Sidney Sweeney fans, in response to what's essentially the sexualization of a child, of a baby.
It's like, seems to be wanting to bring down your defenses on the most disgusting crime imaginable on earth.
Your thoughts?
Well, it makes you question the strength of the plot line.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to wonder how that meeting.
When they're going through the script, they're like, okay, is this essential?
Or is it like, to your point, Megan, is the director working out his own sick fetish here through the production of this show?
It's like the Quentin Tarantino thing, allegedly, you know, he's really into feet, you know?
Yeah, yeah, no, I remember the rumors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe it's something like that.
But I also have no context to this because I don't watch you for you.
I hear the whole show is disgusting like this.
But like, I have to wonder because I assume a lot of this stuff was in context of this character starting an only.
Fans' pages.
Maybe it's a commentary on the sickos who are asking her to be the excuse.
Yeah, to do these things.
So maybe it's a commentary on that.
Although, having seen some of the clips online, it seems like the entire show is just perversion.
Yeah.
There are probably other ways to present that sort of commentary.
Yeah.
It's just, you know, my own opinion.
I feel like Hollywood is just begging for the San Andreas fault to shift.
You know, like they're throwing up prayers every day San Andreas move.
Put California into the Pacific Ocean.
So true.
You know, they also don't even see.
Can I, uh My geology professor in college told me that that was going to happen within like 10 years, that California was going to fall into the ocean as a result of the San Andreas.
Here we are all these years later.
Keep going.
I was 10 years, Megan.
That seems about right.
10 years ago?
That feels right.
This might be the year.
Almost there.
You never know.
This might be the year.
And it may be biblical.
Exactly.
Yeah, no kidding.
The rapture is upon us.
Oh, well.
Speaking of nudity in California, that brings me to Lena Dunham.
Oh, Jesus.
And I know this is, yeah, come on.
I'm giving you lots of content for the Ruthless Variety program.
Lena Dunham is back.
She's hawking a memoir that she's written and she's got a lot of thoughts.
She wants to talk about her body image because she's very large now.
She's gained a lot of weight and she's not afraid to discuss it.
She wants to talk about how the intense rage she faced about her body, like as a result of that show, Girls, etc., have really affected her.
And also, here she is talking about how.
People cannot empathize with her on the weight issue.
Here's top 47.
Let's start there.
And I felt sad that that person didn't have a sense that she, it's not even just about being normatively beautiful, although, like the way that I was spoken about, I mean, that's what so many women's bodies look like.
That's not what my body looks like anymore.
But it was, I was like full of light.
And it's interesting, as I looked at the photos over the course of the show, I could see.
It's such a cliche, but it was like the lights just went out.
Somehow my health picture kept getting less clear, not more clear, which also makes it very, I understand, very hard for other people to empathize with because it seems abstract, amorphous.
Like they lose sympathy or think you're making it up.
And the highest value is just to be able to go and go and go.
And it took me a really long time to understand that wasn't like my only value, that actually I could.
Have a fragile body and a strong mind, and have a lot to offer without like betraying my own physical self over and over and over again.
Okay.
Now, I pardon you if you're confused by her messaging, but she appears to be saying that when she did Girls, which was a hit, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago, whatever it was, she was objectified, you see, and she was thin back then.
And people talked about her in a way that was objectifying and it created rage in her.
And so now she's fat.
Now she's morbidly obese.
I guess because she ate her feelings, because we all created rage by objectifying her when she looked like most women.
And I am here to tell you that if anybody objectified Lena Dunham on the show Girls, it was Lena Dunham.
Because let me tell you something.
I watched a little of this show when it hit, and my poor husband Doug was dragged along for the ride.
And he was tolerating it.
You know, he's a good guy.
He's like, all right, fine.
And then it was this scene that Doug said, I'm out!
And I had my team pull it because I remember the moment vividly.
Watch.
It's a ping pong table.
I haven't played this a lot, but I'm just very naturally gifted.
Oh, come on.
Athletic?
She's naked.
We learned it.
People are impressed.
What you got?
This is horrible.
She's got underwear on, but no top, and she's exposed.
That, so now she wants to do a revisionist.
People made comments about my hot body when I would look like that, which is why now I look like this.
All society's fault for objectifying me.
Guys, this is not a well person.
You guys get the feeling that Megan, like when they produce the show, when we come on, that she's like, can I get these guys to break?
Yeah.
Like, can I break them?
Like, maybe if we dose Sidney Sweeney and then Lena Dunham, like, they won't be able to talk about it.
That's really tough bookends.
A topless Lena Dunham.
I'm not sure they can handle that.
But nothing tells me that Doug Brunt is a normal dude, quite like when he gets to that point, he's like, ah.
Okay.
Listen, I'm going to go watch Beast Boy.
I've had it.
This is it.
Oh, damn.
That was it.
We never watched the show again.
It was so in your face.
You know, she and the thing is, back then she was kind of known as being a little chubby.
Like she talks about herself now, like she was Elle McPherson, but like she was known as being like a little on the chubby side, but like very, very quick to take off her clothes on throughout this series.
And now she's like blaming whatever positive feedback there was about that body on her.
She blames her eating problem on it.
At least that's how I glean her remarks.
She's very, she's almost incomprehensible now.
And on top of that, she's ripping on her co star, Adam Driver.
Suggesting that he has been like violent, that he's been throwing things around.
Do we have that, you guys, where she accuses Adam Driver of being a hothead and throwing the chair?
So it's not a stop, but she did allege that.
So, in any event, this is again to your point about the San Andreas, John.
Yeah, shifting very soon.
You know, the thing is about all of this, and you alluded to that when you said, I don't really remember any of us forcing her to go be public.
And have a public career.
But there's few things on this planet that I find more annoying than somebody who foists themselves in the public spotlight and then complains about their own way of dealing with it.
It's like, no, dude, you could have just been an accountant.
You could have done what?
Nobody's.
You're fat, you're thin.
Lena Dunham, I haven't thought about her name since it was foisted upon me 15 years ago at that shitty show.
You know, like I've never.
And now she is.
She's back.
She's like, well, now I'm fat and unhappy because of.
All the things that.
I never remember asking about it then or now about how she's doing.
She could have just written the show.
She didn't have to be topless playing ping pong.
Horribly, by the way.
She's very bad at ping pong.
That's really what did it for Doug.
Yeah, it was the acumen of the ping pong.
No authenticity.
He's a very good ping pong player.
I'm sure you objected to that.
I was just thrilled to get out of shorts with him.
This gal I'm about to show you, to your point of trying to break you guys, She's complained too about her media coverage.
She doesn't like when the press comes down on her.
At one point, she actually, I think, said she was quitting music altogether because she didn't like what people were saying about her.
And that woman is Lizzo.
And the reason I'm raising that is because Lizzo has decided to appear at Coachella recently.
And she went.
Here's my team's note Lizzo twerking with life size LaBooBoo on stage at Coachella.
I only understand two of those words.
Here it is in SOP 40.
Right?
Is it top 40?
I think that's the one.
It's either 40 or 39.
They're basically.
She's doing her twerks with him basically doing her from behind.
I don't know.
There's another one.
What are you doing to us?
We're going to keep going until I hear the words surrender.
Here is.
It's on 39.
Sexy gay.
It's I got the red key.
We got the red key.
It's sexy red with her.
Oh my God, look at this.
Oh my God.
Entertainment media will see that and write up, like, you know, she's an accomplished flautist.
And nobody will present it that way.
Why is it the introduction of the flute in today's RB world?
Exactly.
She's basically naked, jiggling like 100 pounds of fat through cellulite on stage with no clothes on while playing the flute.
This passes for entertainment in 2026 America.
Remember when they used to sing?
At these events, like Coachella.
That was nice.
They go out there.
Yeah.
Remember those days where, like, remember when low cleavage was considered risque?
Yeah.
And we'd have talks about whether, like, how low did it go?
The JLo dress that went down to the navel.
Oh, my God.
Like, we are now at full exhibitionism.
And you are a sexist if you notice or comment on it.
That's really the other side of this coin.
You know, I wasn't so sure about Lena Dunham's Dick Tracy get up with the silver ribbon.
Oh, did you see?
Yeah, did you notice that?
I wanted to talk about that too.
But I was kind of wishing that that was.
He looked like Secretary.
Oh, my God.
You can get away with it.
We cannot.
Oh, my Lord.
You were wishing that Lizzo had something.
Yeah, I was kind of wishing that was the costume they chose for the night of that concert that we just saw.
Not much of a concert, though.
And I think part of the problem here, Megan, you were talking about our exhibition culture.
Like an event like Coachella, it's not even about the music anymore.
People show up there to be influencers or quasi influencers and take a bunch of Pictures in the VIP lounge.
It's not really about the music anymore.
It's about being seen at the thing.
So the quality of what you see on stage is kind of secondary or tertiary, really.
Yeah.
I think there's something in what Lizzo is doing where she's trying to say, like, I can be sexy even though I'm 250 pounds.
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But if I have to choose.
But if I have to choose Lizzo or Lena Dunham.
I'm going Lizzo.
I'm going Lizzo.
Yeah, you know what?
There's talent there.
Yeah.
At least, you know, she's being her and she's not, you know, making it our fault.
Right.
She's not complaining that we were the problem.
Should we drop Sydney Sweeney in there?
Oh, don't you dare.
Don't you dare talk negatively about Sydney Sweeney.
That's fair to say.
You haven't turned on her because of the poor decision making.
No, I mean, there's director's issues, there's producer's issues.
You know, I mean, she's an actress.
She's blameless.
She's doing what she needs to do.
The agent.
Simply trying to make a living, Megan.
It's a hard world.
I think Lizzo is trying.
She's like making us think that this is sexy.
Like, it's sexy whether you know it or not.
I'm going to get up there and I'm going to jiggle this enormous bottom with all the cellulite.
In your face, like you will watch the jiggly cellulite and like it, or you are a pig, or you are the sexist pig.
And I'm sorry, it's just, it's gross.
It's like, it's disgusting.
It's, it's really, it's beyond exhibitionism.
It's just like offensive.
And it's not something to be celebrated.
It's not, it's not to be celebrated with a skinny girl.
It's not to be celebrated with a fat girl, but I really don't want to watch it.
And then you play the fluke, really, to your point.
Like, what a demeaning way, right?
Like, can you imagine every other flautist at like, you know, the Philharmonic?
First chair.
Lazy boy.
Can't we just play the instrument?
Why do I.
I feel like the tuba would have been more appropriate there.
Do you?
Yes.
What's with the giant stuffed animal?
That's the thing I don't understand.
Well, those are a thing now.
Those are a thing now.
They're apparently hard to get, and you've got a whole rash of moms who are trying to get these things for the kids playing absorbent prices.
It's sexualized.
Yeah, I know.
That's just my opinion.
Why did the one have to do her from behind?
You know what's so crazy?
Look at this.
I know.
I know.
I don't want to look at this.
Maybe there's a nexus between, you know, you read a lot about how the next, this youngest generation is like not having sex.
Like they're not having fun.
They don't know how to interact.
They're all online or whatever.
And then you see the toys banging Lizzo.
Yeah.
Maybe we figured out where the problem is here.
They're like, yeah, that doesn't look great.
Yeah, that's weird.
That's something maybe I'm not interested in.
But it's kind of similar to the Sydney Sweeney thing, if you think about it, which is like sexualizing something having to do with children.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Like you take a child's toy, you put it on stage, and by the way, who owns LaBooBoo?
Because you would have had to have a licensing agreement to have the animal stand up there in the costume, right?
Like you can't just show up, you can't have a guy in a goofy costume show up at a Lizzo concert and have him start pretending to do her from the back.
But the what, Megan?
The what?
What were we doing?
I didn't catch that whole thing.
I don't know what she was going for, to be honest.
I'm not sure exactly the sex act.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your point about they're not singing.
You know, there is an audience in this country who once goes to a concert because they're like, oh, this person is going to sing.
Oh, they have talent.
Oh, there's a song that's pretty clever.
And I like going to a concert to listen to that sort of thing.
And yet, the people who produce this sort of content are completely.
Disconnected from that audience, which makes up the majority of our country.
It's why, like, you know, I'm not going to a Taylor Swift concert, but so many people want to go to that because she sings and she does, you know, plays musical instruments.
I mean, it's the same thing with Hollywood.
And the clip or the screen cap of Sidney Sweeney, it's like they didn't even see the jeans ad, you know, and most people interacted with or talked about the jeans ad because it was a little bit more normal than what this show is about to produce.
I also think the shock factor is so high.
Now and a huge part of marketing all of this stuff forever has been how do you get to public consciousness by just shocking?
Yeah, well, that's probably and now we've verged into just outright offensive in order to get anybody's attention at all.
And I do think it's part of the marketing, it's sad.
I wish there would be like a revolution of normal at some level, which I kind of thought that would watch.
Gene's ad was, to be honest with you.
Yep, one step forward, two steps backward, obviously.
Okay, we have to finish with the Strait of Hormuz.
No, just kidding.
We can't go from the Hormuz.
We're going to go there.
I was just going to say that's a real transition.
Normally you do the hard news first and then you move to the cultural stuff.
So I think we're just going to stick right over culture for now.
In no world do you go from Lizzo's enormous bottom to the Strait.
Thank you.
It's never been done in the history of broadcasting.
It won't be done here.
Okay.
So we're going to stick with culture and Meghan Markle, your favorite topic.
She, those two grifters are back at it.
So do you remember when they were dating?
They went on an Australia tour together.
And that was the tour in which she allegedly famously said, I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this.
I can't believe I'm doing this crap for free.
And she was exhausted.
She was like, Oh my, it was so, I was so tired, you know, it was so hard for me because I was pregnant when we did that tour.
And it was like, You were royal.
You had a whole like cabal of people there to massage your feet at night.
You know, no one cared that whatever you were pregnant.
So she's back at it.
They have terrible publicity.
Their approval ratings are in the basement.
And so they've gone to Australia to have another tour.
This is where Diana crushed and she thinks she's Diana.
So she's back there.
I think the Austenese are just like grateful whenever anybody comes.
I don't think they get visited that often.
It's like, it's far.
You know, it's like, I just think like, Anyone could, Lena Dunham could show up there.
They'd be thrilled.
When they stopped sending the prisoners, they welcomed everyone.
Yeah.
So she gets there, and what does she do?
She goes to a children's hospital where they focus on cancer victims and makes it into a photo op for her.
Of course, God forbid they just go and visit the sick children in Melbourne.
No, They have to have cameras and get their cheers and applause, reports the Daily Mail on their trip to meet young cancer patients in the hospital where they spent 45 minutes chatting.
And we, of course, have video and pictures of it, guys, because does it ever matter if it's not on camera, right?
Like, how many times have you gone to do a charitable work and you just make sure you've got your cameras in tow so that You get the credit.
That's the bottom line.
Sick, dude.
I mean, but that's been, it's kind of what you've come to expect, right?
It's unearned credit.
Contracts to do Netflix movies and podcasts and things like that.
And then it is attempting to portray something you are not, which is a selfless individual.
Meanwhile, I mean, everybody knows the backdrop of all that.
I mean, I guess people like to show up and still see them.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The whole thing kind of feels schizophrenic.
It's like, did you want to be part of the royal family or not?
Right.
You know, like I thought you didn't like doing any of these things.
So why don't you just go away?
But I think at the end of the day, a person like Meghan Markle is just addicted to the attention.
And so she's going to try to get that attention any way she can.
Like Holmes said, I mean, when they made this whole schism with the royal family, it was nothing but Netflix deals and a podcast that never got produced and all these sorts of things.
And it all fell apart.
And so now she feels like she's sort of crawling back to the public consciousness by doing all the things she complained about when she was in the royal family.
It makes no sense.
She's a fake royal now.
Yes.
So she shows up after the children's cancer.
Hospital.
She went solo as she served frittata at a woman's refuge, wearing $1,100 heart earrings, Princess Diana's Cartier watch, and a Tiffany gold bracelet.
So there she is, just one of you.
She said, just call me Meg.
Meanwhile, we know that she requires you to yell out Duchess of Sussex before you meet her at a townhouse in New York City as a journalist, just the two of you.
So who is she kidding?
When the cameras are there, though, oh, it's just Meg, just call me Meg.
And she wears her Cartier jewelry.
While she's helping women's shelter females who come to see her.
Nice.
Right on brand.
And then finally, she jets off to do her little girls' weekend.
It's $1,400.
That's in pounds.
So it's what, about $2,000 per person girls' weekend, a retreat in Sydney, which they billed as being sold out almost as soon as it started.
It's not sold out.
They're still begging people to buy tickets.
They cannot get just the 300 person event sold.
300 people.
They can't get 300.
She has an intimate 300 guests, which they can't get people to fill.
And no one wants to spend her best life weekend with Meghan Markle because they know she's a grifter.
It's $3,100 for a VIP ticket, $2,700 for a regular ticket.
If you go, if you pay for the VIP experience, she will give you a group photo.
All the VIPs can spend several hundred dollars, and you just get a group.
You don't even get a one on one.
Not like on the MK Tour.
Our audience knows that's not how it went with us.
So, you tell me, is her 15 minutes finally up, guys, or what?
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I think so.
You know, the last time her name, before you've raised it, came up, I saw an ex.
Did she date Rory McElroy at one point?
Oh, did she?
Did she?
Well, there's pictures of them together.
They were at least friends, but, you know, she sort of has a type a little bit.
She likes the Limies.
Rich and famous.
Well, yeah, he's a star effer.
Sort of, so to speak, which I think is very consistent with what you've just outlined for us, Megan.
So I appreciate it.
Yeah.
I mean, Harry was the first dope to actually go for it.
She tried with a lot of guys.
He, it's just like Swalwell.
He told that one accuser, the one who's in shadow on CNN, I've never cheated on my wife with anyone other than you.
Oh, no.
It's like the worst line in the history of lines.
How comforting.
And now, like, this woman too predated that one.
All of them predated.
Like, he's cheated so many times.
Like, Women, don't believe that.
Don't believe my wife doesn't understand me.
Don't believe you were the first one ever.
Don't believe I love you when he's got a wife and children who are not you.
So we end where we began.
Lessons from Megan.
Good advice.
There we go.
I didn't hear the magic word of surrender, but it's never too late.
You got close.
You got really close.
This was as close as it's been.
It's great to see you guys.
Great to see you too.
All right.
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