Megyn Kelly and Allie Beth Stuckey dissect JD Vance's Turning Point USA appearance, Kamala Harris's evasion on Biden's health, and New Jersey's controversial 40-week abortion laws. They condemn late-term procedures akin to lethal injection, critique Nancy Pelosi's cultural shifts, and analyze Jack Ciattarelli's campaign against Governor Phil Murphy regarding opioid ties and sports policies. Ultimately, the episode urges voters to reject Democratic rule by supporting Ciattarelli to restore parental rights and ethical governance in New Jersey. [Automatically generated summary]
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The GOP candidate for governor of New Jersey who might just pull this thing out, Jack Chitterelli will be here later.
I mean, could we actually get a Republican governor for the People's Republic of New Jersey?
I know it wasn't that long ago that we had Chris Christie, but like it seems like forever ago.
Their current governor, Phil Murphy, just signed a bill into law allowing abortion on demand through all nine months of pregnancy.
All nine months, up until the day before the baby's born.
Could the state that backed that guy now back a Republican?
Maybe they're doing it in response to his radicalism on things as basic as third trimester abortions.
It's barbaric.
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Okay, let's get to some news.
There's a lot going on today.
What I want to start with is JD Vance appearing at the Charlie Kirk Turning Point events event last night at the University of Mississippi.
What an extraordinary evening.
He was introduced by Erica Kirk.
And you know, the Vancees have been so good to Erica, and she's really been leaning on Usha, who's been a complete rock for her.
I love the fact that Usha Vance is able to play this role for Erica.
She's a sweet, smart, strong woman.
She's completely changed JD's life.
I met her back in 2017 when I first profiled him in depth for NBC and went deep on his family, his sister Lindsay, his aunt Wee, his mama, and Usha, who sat with us when I interviewed JD for that long piece in which JD said he really, he felt like he projected you's car salesman when people like me told him he should run for national office.
It's before he was even running for Senate.
And anyway, theirs is a deep love story.
They met at Yale Law School, both brilliant, both brought very different things to the relationship.
And among the gifts that Usha has is just a quiet strength, just to be in her presence.
You can see it.
You have to be brilliant to wind up at Yale Law School and go on to clerk for the Chief Justice of the United States like she did.
She's truly gifted intellectually.
And I think she's, you know how they use that phrase of sound mind?
I think she's really of sound mind.
I mean, she's got like an especially sound mind.
And like I said, a calmness to her that I think Erica has found comforting.
I saw Erica literally leaning on her at the Charlie Kirk Presidential Medal of Freedom award ceremony a couple weeks ago at the White House.
In any event, it's fitting.
Erica's chosen her events post-Charlie's death very carefully.
And she pointed out last night that it was the seven week anniversary or mark since Charlie was killed.
And you know how that is, especially when you're close to somebody who dies, you count, you count it in days, weeks, months, and eventually years.
And she's still in the counting it in weeks phase of being a widow.
So she flew cross-country.
She introduced JD Vance at University of Mississippi, and they both got a hero's welcome.
Let me just show you the lines to get in.
All right, Turning Point put this out.
And you can see the people lining up.
It's raining too, which really shows how badly they wanted to get in there.
You know, it's like, it's tough to ask people to stand in the line all day.
They've got their ponchos.
They've got their umbrellas.
It seems to go for miles and miles and miles.
Andrew Colvert, the, you know, the EP of Charlie's show, was reporting online yesterday that half of the students at the University of Mississippi applied for tickets.
They were free.
Half, half of all students at the university tried to get into this thing.
And then on top of that, another 13,000 adults and faculty and so on.
So look at this.
For listening audience, we're still showing the line.
It's still going for all the time I've been talking.
My God, there's no end to it.
You can see the enthusiasm for Turning Point, for our sitting vice president, and of course, for beautiful, sweet, sensitive Erica.
Erica, there's video of her behind the stage, and she's wearing, for the listening audience, jeans and a white freedom t-shirt like Charlie had on when he died.
And they did something.
Turning point is very sophisticated on its productions and clever in the use of its tape.
And they did something that I'm sure they got her blessing for.
They used Charlie's voice to introduce Erica to the stage, obviously from an earlier appearance of hers.
Can we play that with the sound, you guys?
Do we have that?
Speaker is a very, very special speaker, and she has had a heroic blast year.
And I believe she's the best mom in the world.
Truly the best mom in the world.
She is my hero and the love of my life.
Join me in welcoming Erica Kirk.
She's now walking out at the University of Mississippi last night.
Wow.
Got tears in my eyes just watching that.
You could see her just drop her arms to her side and take in the enormity of the crowd who had gathered there before her, truly to honor her, to honor Charlie, to honor the things that Charlie was fighting for.
She's so strong.
Honestly, it's like seven weeks out is a short amount of time.
And she has been forcing herself to do a few of these things just to keep now her organization going and to keep Turning Point on people's minds, which is what Charlie would have wanted.
She spoke to the crowd before JD came out.
And here's a little bit of that.
SAT 6.
Being the courageous generation that you are, stand up for the truth.
Defend life.
Love your family fearlessly.
Love your spouse fearlessly.
Love this country.
Defend her.
Defend her.
And serve our God.
And don't think that it's someone else's role to do it.
You do it.
You do it.
Do it for Charlie.
Do it for Charlie.
I'm in a standing room only in the auditorium.
And you can feel the love that those students and others were sending to Erica Kirk.
That was a good decision.
You know, she should only be going to places that are loving right now.
She should stay off the internet with the insane theories that are being kicked around.
People are so harsh.
People are crazy.
People are literally attacking her for seeming too together.
You know, as if, I mean, there's like crazy theory.
I don't want to get into it, but she should stay off the internet and she should go to places like that where she can feel what's real, what's real.
The love for Charlie, the love for her, the love for her family, the love for her turning point family, which she and Charlie helped build.
I mean, she helped Charlie build it in the later years and take it next level and inspired him to take his own life next level.
I don't know.
It's, you know, she's coming to our tour too.
You know that, right?
She's coming to Glendale, Arizona.
It has all but sold out.
I think we literally only have a couple tickets left.
Forgive me if it's, if you get to the website and it's sold out, because I, last I looked, it was like, there was a smidge left.
You can get the, you can try at megankelly.com.
But that's a big, big auditorium.
That's like a big arena.
And it sold out like almost instantly, like as soon as we announced she was coming.
And you can just feel the enthusiasm for her, for Charlie still.
That's going to be the most powerful night of the tour with respect to all my other guests who I love.
I think they would probably concede this too.
We're finishing off the tour in Glendale, Arizona with Erica.
And this will be her first, you know, live on stage sit-down talking about herself.
She's giving one other interview to Fox and our pal Jesse Waters about Turning Point and Charlie.
And that's good.
That's good too.
She should be doing what's right for Turning Point.
But this one's going to be personal.
And I don't know.
It's weird to say I'm looking forward to it, but I am looking forward to it because I have a love for Erica Kirk that's like pretty profound.
I feel the need to look after her.
And I feel like this is, I don't know, I just kind of feel like Charlie wants me to do this.
And I will do this and I will handle it right.
And I think Erica will leave feeling better, feeling like some important things were said and some important things were shared.
In any event, looking forward to that.
She introduced Vice President JD Vance.
And when he got on the stage, take a listen to how the auditorium sounded here in SOT7.
Hell yeah.
Damn right.
Hottie toddy, gosh almighty.
Who the hell are we?
Hey, Flim Flam, Bim Bam, Ole Miss by Damn.
It's a thing.
Clearly, he knew how to evoke the old miss cheer and the students responded totally appropriately.
He then took the Q ⁇ A and boy, oh boy, was that fun.
He is so smooth.
The way he handled himself, the way he interacted with these students had virtually every right-wing publication today using the number 48.
48, 48, 48.
Got up there.
48 was great.
Let's look at some of it.
Here is one of the sound bites that's gone viral, SOT 8.
Watch it.
Pushing out policies that hurt us.
And these policies are not even solving the problems.
These policies are just creating.
No, no, no.
I can believe that the United States should lower its levels of immigration in the future while also respecting that there are people who have come here through immigration path, lawful immigration pathways that have contributed to the country.
But just because one person or 10 people or 100 people came in legally and contributed to the United States of America, does that mean that we're thereby committed to let in a million or 10 million or 100 million people a year in the future?
No, that's not right.
We cannot have, I'll go and finish.
We cannot have an immigration.
She's raising her hand again.
Where what was good for the country 50 or 60 years ago binds the country inevitably for the future.
There's too many people who want to come to the United States of America.
And my job as vice president is not to look out for the interests of the whole world.
it's to look out for the people of the United States.
Rockstar.
In the middle of the question, the woman raises her hand again.
She's got a follow-up.
At one point, he says, I think it was to her, because he did allow somebody to ask a multi-pronged question.
He was like, you know, let me see if I can condense the nine questions you just asked me.
It was her.
He's just, he's funny and he's very deft at maneuvering through these issues and condensing down like a lot of information into its most salient point and hitting it.
It's from all the experience he's had.
It's from his fearlessness and going on those Sunday shows with hostile media.
Like there's not a corner he won't go into.
Unlike the left, he's used to getting cross-examined by people who can't stand him.
So answering a few questions from a couple of hostile students at University of Mississippi, not a problem.
Here he's asked about how his faith has helped him in his current job.
Take a listen to Sat 9.
Can you tell us how your faith helps you in your role as vice president?
I grew up in a country where you just didn't hear political leaders talk about their faith, but the reason why I try to be the best husband I can be, the best father I can be, the reason why I care so much about all the issues that we're going to talk about is because I believe that I've been placed in this position for a brief period of time to do the most amount of good for God and for the country that I love so much.
And I have two very important duties as vice president of the United States to the American people and to God.
And that's the most important influence my faith has on me.
Thank you.
He talked about how he is hoping that at some point his wife, Usha, will convert to Christianity.
And I think he said she's agnostic.
I think that's what he said.
And forgive me if I've gotten that wrong.
Pretty sure that's what he said.
And that he's hoping that soon she will convert to Christianity.
Yeah, that's what he said.
And that would be, that would be pretty extraordinary.
He said they're raising their children Christian.
And then he also talked about how he grew up in an area, you know, of course, he was in Middletown, Ohio.
He spent lots of his summers down in the Holla in Kentucky.
And he talked about how where he grew up, people were faithful, but they did not talk about their faith.
It was not like the way Charlie did it, but talked about how Charlie really influenced him on that front.
And as he did with so many of us, you know, right now I'm on my fourth faith book that I've been reading just in the past couple of weeks, thanks to Charlie.
I think a lot of us are going through that.
And thanks to all of you too, by the way, who many of you emailed into the show and emailed me, Megan, at megankelly.com, with your recommendations of faith-based books that could help somebody like me who's looking for a window of entry.
I mean, obviously I'm Catholic, but I don't know the Bible.
I don't know scripture.
I certainly can't quote it the way Charlie could.
And I have been having questions about faith, given everything that's been going on with the annulment process that I'm pursuing on my first marriage.
I think you guys have heard that story.
So in any event, he can relate from the sound of it.
Maybe Usha can relate from the sound of it.
And maybe some of you guys can relate too.
So good for him for taking that on.
The question of what we're doing with our National Guard in U.S. cities came up.
And just this was an interesting answer because it kind of got to, I think, overall, in my view, also maybe some of the lawfare.
Lawfare and Federal Power Abuse00:03:03
It was basically, should we be more careful when we Republicans are in charge, understanding that we won't always be, and that when Democrat rule returns, some of these same tactics are going to get turned around on us.
That's basically where I think this questioner was going.
So take a listen to the question, but listen most importantly to how JD answers it.
You guys have sent the military into Washington, D.C. and a few other cities that I can't think of off the top of my head, which first off, they've had wonderful results.
Like no one, no one can deny the results of that.
It's wonderful.
Some might even say the greatest.
Well, it's not necessarily something you did wrong, but it's what could someone else do wrong.
Let's say we get a complete tyrant in office and let's say we're having, let's say Turning Point USA is having a huge protest against something really bad that we don't like.
And let's say a president is saying that it's getting violent.
How can we prevent someone from abusing that power?
Here's something that I want conservatives, I want every conservative to remember.
It's an important part of my entire political philosophy is we cannot be afraid to do something because the left might do it in the future.
The left is already going to do it regardless of whether we do it.
That is the takeaway of the last 40 years.
What I'm worried about, frankly, is what the far left already did with American law enforcement.
And that is the thing that we have to prevent against.
And the answer to that question is you make sure the people who did it face penalties for using the federal power against American citizens.
Right on.
And that's what's happening.
That's what's happening.
I mean, they're going through all these old files.
And if it's beyond the point where a crime could be charged, they're just outing them to the media.
You know, and if it's something that's not a crime, but a scandal, they're outing it to the media.
And if it's something that actually is a crime, like John Bolton allegedly sending classified documents to himself and his wife and his daughter without clearance, they're charging it.
And some of the worst actors obviously are getting charged for other crimes that would not clearly have been charged, but for the fact that they charged Trump with made-up crimes, like Tish James.
She's at least getting charged with a real crime.
Whether she did it, she'll have her day in court to prove one way or the other.
But I mean, no one's disputing that charge would not normally be brought against her.
It was brought because she made several years of Trump's life a living hell where she tried to steal his business from him over bullshit made up charges involving alleged bank fraud that he did not commit.
I mean, it's just so obvious.
All the banks said he paid us back with interest.
We're delighted to do business with him.
And she said, no, there's some inherent harm in just you having gotten these interest rates for some time.
Well, now she's dealing with interest rates and accusations that she got some sort of a benefit, whether somebody was actually harmed or not.
Biden Administration Public Square00:15:48
It's the turning of the tables.
Fine with it.
I'm totally fine with it.
And if she's not guilty legally, we'll hear that from a judge or a jury.
Fine.
But I like the fact that he's standing behind it and he's not apologetic about it because he's exactly right.
They are going to do what they are going to do.
We saw that during the Biden administration.
How many times do we have to learn the lesson that they will be absolutely ruthless when in power?
Absolutely ruthless.
And the only question is whether Republicans are in power, they are going to try to hold those ruthless people to account.
That's what's happening right now.
So good for him for understanding that and understanding, you know, what's the point of having power if you're not going to use it?
You know, that's what you were elected to do.
Clean up these cities, get rid of these illegals, and restore some accountability to these disgusting offices that have been totally corrupted under Democrat rule, like the DOJ, like the FBI.
Finally, the issue of faith came back up.
And JD had more to say on the subject of faith in the public square.
Take a listen to Soph 10.
As much as I hope and pray that we can be a nation of Christians, the idea of a Christian nation scares me.
So I'd like to hear your feedback on a pretty nuanced argument here, that perhaps there should be a wall of separation, as at least one of our founders advocated, between church and state at the national level.
However, that line can and should get blurrier as we descend to the community level.
If you go back to the First Amendment, it doesn't say separation of church and state.
It says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
But if you go back to the founding time, there were actually a number of states that had formally recognized churches.
So there was the Anglican Church of Virginia.
That was the official state church of Virginia.
And yes, I do think that what happened is the Supreme Court interpreted Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion to effectively throw the church out of every public space at the federal, state, and local level.
I think it was a terrible mistake, and we're still paying for the consequences of it today.
But if, and I think this is your point, if you were to undo that, if you were to get back to a system actually meant by the founders where Congress is not setting up an established religion, but people in their local communities can kind of do whatever it is that they want to do, I think that would be a better system than what we have today.
But I think the most important principle that we have got to remember is you do not, you do not have to completely kick God out of the public square, which is what we've done in modern America.
It's not what the founders wanted.
It's not good for the United States of America.
And anybody who tells you it's required by the Constitution is lying to you.
Amen.
Religion was all over the public square when this country was founded.
What do you see all over our money?
In God we trust.
Why is that there?
The Ten Commandments were everywhere.
Like it's we've we've deluded ourselves into believing that you can't have any mention of religion or that we're not actually a Christian nation, which was kind of baked into his question.
We are a Christian nation.
We are.
And our Constitution was set up based on foundational principles of Christianity, including the Ten Commandments.
So there's nothing wrong with that.
That's fine.
There are a lot of virtually every country in the Middle East is based on a different religion.
Islam.
Okay, that's how they want to live.
Great.
That's not how we want to live.
That's fine too.
It's the radical left that has made us pull religion out of every corner of the public square.
And thanks to some radical judges who have issued some rulings suggesting you can't have any reference to it.
And we need to get back to that.
We actually need more religion in the public square.
We do.
We need more Christianity in the public square.
That's the answer.
That's the way out of this for everybody.
More faith in the public square and in their lives and more connection for people and more dwarfing of oneself and understanding that there is something larger than you in this world that matters.
There's a reason atheists and others pushed that out and have led us into being more and more godless.
And I do think it's directly linked to those polls we talked about yesterday where you've got between 20 and 30 percent of leftists who think political violence is acceptable, who think it's fine.
And we saw that poll of Illinois primary voters in the Democrat Party thinking 81% of them say Trump and MAGA are Nazis.
81%.
So I do think those people need to get back in touch with God, with their faith and understand the roots of this country and what leads to happiness and what doesn't.
A life of atheism and non-belief and disconnection to anything other than one's navel has proven to be deeply problematic and dangerous.
And we're going down the wrong path.
Okay, I want to keep going.
Kamala Harris, she's finally subjected herself to a couple of mildly challenging interviews.
And it's no coincidence that it happened overseas, right?
We showed you the one with the British journalist the other day.
And now we have an Aussie who works for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
Her name is Sarah Ferguson.
And take a look at this exchange that happened with these two, Sat 3.
Wasn't Joe Biden then to put it on him, wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties the reason that you faced a nearly impossible task?
I ran against Donald Trump for president.
And Donald Trump ran on a platform that was in large part, I believe, misrepresenting his intentions.
Non-responsive.
I do believe that there are a fair number of people that voted for Donald Trump who believed him when he told them that his first priority on day one is going to be to bring down prices.
And he didn't.
And you combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what was at play in terms of massive amounts of mis and disinformation.
Now, forgive me.
And I want to calendar in terms of the clock.
I want to interrupt you because that is a world-class pivot, but it is not the question that I asked you, which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that did to you.
The question is about Joe Biden.
Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president?
In what regard, please?
Well, just in terms of that question, so you went on.
What exactly would you like to ask?
Be more specific.
She asked him twice.
Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own frailties in that position that put you in the position that made it almost impossible to win that race?
He was not frail as president of the United States, but he had frailties.
Oh, really?
We all saw the debate.
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to be president of the United States.
And she goes on to say, you know, maybe not the capacity to run for president.
She tries to draw some distinction.
Listening audience, you have to watch this clip back on YouTube.
Go to 28 After the Hour.
She looks dumbfounded.
She's truly stunned that she's being asked a difficult question.
It is amazing.
It's been like on the theme of our week here on this show as we watch these dumbfounded Democrats like, what are you doing?
Like Corrine Jean-Pierre, you know, in the interview with the New Yorker, like, they don't understand.
Wait, No, And Kamala pretending you ask a precise question.
The problem is your question.
The question was very, very simple.
Wasn't Joe Biden, wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties the reason that you faced a nearly impossible task?
Then she answered an entirely different question, talked about how Donald Trump promised affordability and he didn't deliver it.
She got interrupted.
And she said again, that's a world-class pivot.
That's not the question I asked, which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that did to you.
The question is about Biden.
Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president?
In what regard?
In the exact regard, I've just told you twice now, twice, twice I talked about his failure to recognize his own frailties.
That's literally the phrase the reporter used in both of the questions.
Kamala pretended she didn't understand.
She did understand this one.
She's not as dumb as Corine Jean-Pierre.
And she just pretended she didn't because she didn't want to answer it.
And then in what regard, people, which is like, what?
You can tell she's flustered in terms of that question.
What exactly would you like to ask?
Be more specific.
Okay, you know exactly what she's asking.
You're stalling now for time because you're shocked.
You've been asked a pointed question and you're being forced to answer it.
And she asks it a third time.
Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own frailties in that position that puts you in the position and made it almost impossible for you to win that race?
He was not frail as president of the United States.
Oh my God.
Amazing.
That's where she landed.
He wasn't frail.
Well, here we are all this time later.
I mean, truly, it's going to be a year later next month that she lost.
And she still can't admit the truth.
Like the gaslighting is amazing.
And speaking of gaslighting, we did a story on AM update.
I think it was yesterday morning.
My mornings are blending together.
Talking about how all these people went in there and they pled the fifth, including Dr. Kevin O'Connor, President Joe Biden's personal physician.
And the House Oversight Committee has now referred this all to the DOJ saying, like, please investigate these people who took the fifth on what appears to be the greatest cover-up in presidential history.
That Joe Biden was incompetent and non-compassmentis.
And even his own physician appears to have been in on the cover-up.
Please look at him, Pam Bondi, because he pled the fifth when he came before us at House Oversight.
And we were talking about Dr. Kevin O'Connor in the appease, and we pointed out the fact that he helped before Joe Biden had returned, had won president.
It was like 2017, 18, 19, right in that timeframe there.
So Trump was president.
And he helped facilitate some business deal with a hospital group for Joe Biden's brother, James.
And so Jim Biden got this sweetheart deal where right after Dr. Kevin O'Connor hooked him up with this medical group, he got a loan from that group of $600,000.
And that day, $200,000 arrived across the transom.
And later that same day, $200,000 went from Jim Biden to Joe Biden.
Okay, it all seemed very suspicious.
And why was Dr. Kevin O'Connor recommending Jim Biden to do anything with a hospital group when the guy had zero experience in hospital administration?
It spoke to the cozy, the overly familiar relationship that this doctor had with the Bidens from Jill to Jim to Joe and raised the question of whether Dr. O'Connor received any sort of a kickback.
Well, we didn't know the answer to that because what we did have was a denial from James Biden's lawyer that this doctor received any kickback, but we couldn't ask the doctor himself because again, he pled the fifth.
Okay, and we went back actually to see who specifically, it was Joe, it was the Biden spokesperson, Joe Biden, who said there was no kickback.
We went back to see who that was, who denied it.
And it was a White House spokesperson named Ian Sams.
And I remember thinking, I'm pretty sure that guy's lied to us many, many times.
He's been on, you know, we've run clips of him many, many times where he was denying the mental acuity problems and so on.
And it was very clear to me he was a liar.
And he's in the news today.
Why is he in the news today?
Because he too had to give an interview to the oversight committee.
And he was asked about how he allegedly knew that Joe Biden was A-OK, something he said publicly and apparently insisted was true to the House Oversight Committee.
How did you know?
How much time did you spend with him?
Like, walk us through the two of your relationship.
And would you listen to this, SOP1?
How often would you say that you interacted with the president in person?
I interacted with him pretty infrequently.
So weekly, monthly, what are we talking about?
Very infrequent.
I think I met with the president a handful of times during my tenure in the White House and pulled a couple quotes.
A handful.
An interview you did on MSNBC, and one of the quotes says, when I deal with him, he is sharp and being President Biden.
And he is asking tough questions.
Do you recall this?
I got to say, that doesn't look anything like the president that I know.
When I deal with him, he's sharp.
He's asking tough questions.
That's the President Biden that so many of us experience every single day.
Liar.
So this statement, the basis for this statement was your interactions somewhere between one and five times.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you think that's a bit misleading?
I think it was pretty direct and honest and said that when I do deal with him, he's sharp and he was asking incisive questions during my meetings with him.
But you dealt with him five times in 24 months.
That's not exactly a large scope of knowledge on how he interacts with staff.
You know, I think it's missing some context.
I don't.
Do you think that statement suggests that he deal with him more than he did?
I don't think so.
I mean, I scope about my own interactions with him.
That's the President Biden that we experience every day.
Every day.
By the way, he goes on to admit that he only saw him in person twice.
Twice in all those years.
And he's running around on MSNBC saying he is sharp.
He cross-examines with questions.
That's the Biden we see every day.
You never saw him.
You lied.
You're a liar.
It's obvious.
Ian Sams.
You disgraced yourself.
Why didn't you just say, in my position, I'm low person on the totem pole and I don't get that much exposure to the president.
But I will tell you, in the couple of times I've seen him, I give him an A plus.
That would be on a spin.
But instead, you got caught in a lie and then you had to admit it.
And then you wouldn't confess to being out of context at a minimum.
Those Republicans were being nice to you in the way they styled what you did on MSNBC.
And that is why MSNBC viewers, in part, were grossly misled about the state of the president.
They have you to blame.
You, Kamala Harris, Corine Jean-Pierre, and Joe Biden and his family themselves, plus these top aides like Mike Donnellin, who we talked about the other day, who admitted he had only not only $4 million in his pocket to get Biden re-elected, but another $4 million promised to him if he could get him over the finish line.
Okay, we're going to bring on Ellie Beth in a second, but I just want to make two more points, two more points before we do.
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One of the things that I've been thinking about today, because we are, yesterday was a seven-week mark on Charlie, is the Kirk family.
And there was a video that was shown online, Erica posted it, of their little girl who's three.
And they appear to be going by the Charlie, the turning point HQ in Arizona.
It's totally heartbreaking.
And the reason I want to show it is because of the heartlessness of the left.
You know, we're not only dealing with people who are serial fabulous, to put it nicely, for this guy Ian Sams and Kamala Harris, but who really have lost their humanity, as we've been covering on this show ever since Charlie died.
The absolute inhumanity and the people who, like Lucy Martinez, who mocked shooting herself in the neck when the Charlie Kirk truck drove by her No Kings protest, who's still working in Chicago schools, and all the others.
She's not alone.
All the Halloween costumes, all the celebration of Charlie, you know, these fake costumes of like fake blood coming out of people's necks.
It's disgusting.
You remember this when you see those next time.
Here's this little girl riding in a car past the turning point at HQ.
She's singing her dad's name.
She has no idea.
She does not understand.
She's too little to.
And her little brother doesn't understand either, who is actually truly just a baby.
So shame on those people.
Shame on you, Jamie Lee Curtis, for taking back the sympathy you offered for him.
Shame on you, Gavin Newsom, for trying to lie about how much your son admired him now that you've apparently received blowback from who knows whom on the left.
Shame on you.
It's not just the seven-week, one-day mark since we lost Charlie.
It also happens to be the four-year mark since my dear friends, Allison and Tom Barkledge, lost their son, Blake.
Blake died at age 17 from a heart attack on this day four years ago after contracting myocarditis.
Here we are.
This is Allison and Tom, and that's their daughter, Lexi, who survived her brother, her big brother Blake, at our annual Fourth of July party where we dress up like colonial figures.
Here's Blake, gone too soon at age 17.
The parents don't know.
We talked to all of you.
We did a piece on Blake and we talked about the myocarditis.
They don't know.
He did have COVID, which can cause heart infection.
He had received a double dose of the vaccine, as almost every teenage boy did, because those are the recommendations.
Most places you couldn't even go to school.
Most colleges, he was in high school, but couldn't even go unless you proved that you did it.
And they don't know what caused the myocarditis exactly or what led to it, but they know it caused a heart attack in someone they adored too soon.
And as a result, they lost their son Blake and Lexi lost her big brother, Blake.
Here's a piece of the tribute we did to Blake a year or so after he died.
What lessons has this taught you about why we're here?
What your purpose is?
I mean, every time I'm hanging with my friends now, I like, I always just take a second just to like look around because I feel like when I used to hang out with them, with my friends, I wouldn't like live in the moment, I guess you could say, and it would go so fast and then it's over.
Now, like, we're all leaving for college, the hangouts before last few weeks.
Like, I just look around and just, I can enjoy it so much more.
Clemson's man down going into this freshman year.
They lost a good one.
Those were Blake's friends, Kyle and Hayden, who were there when he collapsed.
And they're still suffering.
But I wanted to tell you the upshot as we're thinking about Erica Kirk and we're thinking about Erica and Charlie's two babes.
And that is the Barkledges were determined.
That's one of the reasons we profiled them was because the mom and dad, who are dear friends of ours, just refused to give up.
They refused to let their lives be ruined to subject their daughter Lexi to a life of nonstop pain.
They did turn their pain into purpose.
And since then, they've formed this foundation, Blake Gives Back, which is helping do screenings at hospitals.
I'm sorry, at schools across the nation for cardiac irregularities.
And they've saved innumerable lives with kids who had no idea that there was something wrong.
But the EKGs that they've been offering found them.
Found them.
In one case, it was like one kid almost didn't go.
He was like the last one in.
He barely got the test.
He had something else going on.
Sure enough, he had an issue.
And he got it addressed thanks to this Blake Gives Back foundation that they're now running in honor of their son, powered by their son and his memory.
So they've, Tom, you may remember, he works at Johnson ⁇ Johnson.
And that wasn't for whatever it's worth, the vaccine that Blake got, but he works at J ⁇ J and he changed the bereavement policy there, which had only allowed for five days off in the loss of an immediate family member to now 30, 30 days off, which of course is what it should be.
And J ⁇ J was very good about it and like very, has been very supportive of the Barkledges.
It's just, I'm just thinking about it because in the initial stages here, and when you're two months in, you're not, most people can't even function.
Never mind, think about it.
I mean, when we ran that tribute for Blake, Tom and Allison, they hadn't formed Blake Gives Back.
They hadn't done anything.
I remember saying like, you might want to consider like a foundation or something, but they were, it was like, you know, you're still dealing with your grief.
So it's a couple things.
Number one, four years later, they are on their feet.
Lexi, well, I'll tell you about her in a second.
We talked about in the piece, and I can barely tell this story without getting choked up, but Blake had wanted to go to either, he was on the fence between, I think, Clemson and Georgia, but he really liked Clemson.
And he said, Dad, I think I could get a scholarship to Clemson.
He had really good grades.
And Tom said, Blake, if you get a scholarship to Clemson, you can go.
And they made a bet about whether Blake could do it.
And then Blake died on October 30th, 2021.
And they called all the colleges to which Blake had applied.
He was a senior in high school.
It was the fall of his senior year.
And they withdrew Blake's applications because they didn't want Blake to get the spot of some aspiring college attendee.
And I guess Clemson didn't get the message because they mailed the package to Tom and Allison and Blake, and it was a huge envelope.
And they knew immediately what it was.
And he had gotten into Clemson with the scholarship.
It's like, of course, Tom, you know, Allison's more stoic as between them.
She cries privately, but Tom's got his emotions on his sleeve.
And, you know, to hear him tell this story, there wouldn't be a dry eye in the house.
But their daughter, Lexi, who's a couple years younger than Blake and now is an only child in the family, is at Clemson now herself.
And they go down and they visit with her and they go to the football games and they celebrate.
And there is a way forward for families who are suffering.
You know, We had the dear family on yesterday that lost their son.
He died by suicide.
Coaxed into the act by Chat GPT.
They allege in a lawsuit that they are likely to win, in my view.
They're still dealing with it.
They're only six months into this.
But there is a way forward for families like Erica's, like our family yesterday, like the Barkledges.
And the Barkledges are a great example of it, of how you do it with dignity and grace, and you keep the loved one and their life and their name fresh in people's memories.
And in that way, you keep them alive.
In that way, you keep their memory alive.
I'm so proud of them and how they've dealt with loss.
If you want to see the piece, you can see it on our website, youtube.com/slash MeganKelly, and see for yourself how it is possible to deal with the pain of loss, especially as we go into the holiday season, right?
A lot of people feel it.
My own sister passed a year after I did that piece on Blake.
Little did I know when I was doing a piece on my dear friend's loss that I'd suffer a profound one of my own a year later.
And that stuff can always come up this time of year.
I always feel like Halloween is the kickoff to, you know, the true holiday season.
We've got Thanksgiving, we've got Christmas, Hanukkah, you know, then you get the New Year's.
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It can bring up a lot for people.
So check it out on our website.
I don't know.
Steve, is there a way of like re-upping it so people don't have to go searching down the website?
Yeah, he said we'll put it on our homepage so you guys can check it out.
So in any event, you can consider donating to Blake Gives Back.
That's not why I raised this, but it's a great cause.
We donate every year and help do screenings for kids.
And they also help kids who just had heart surgeries and transplants go to summer camp so that they can have some time outdoors.
There's a number of causes that they support that are wonderful.
And, you know, just honestly, the same, the lesson is always the same, which is hug your children, hug your spouse, be kind to your spouse.
Ask your spouse today what you can do for them.
Ask your sibling what you can do for them.
Call them up.
See how they are.
You know, what do they say?
Your parents go too soon.
Children come too late, but your siblings are there for the whole ride, or at least they should be.
Okay, so that's my message for the day.
I'm sorry if that felt like a downer, but I hope you took it a different way.
I hope it inspires you to lean into the love in your life.
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And then after what happened to Charlie, I'm like, we definitely have to go.
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Joining me now, Allie Beth Stuckey.
She is the author of Toxic Empathy.
Great title and great book.
And she's host of Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey.
Welcome back.
Great to see you, Allie.
Thanks so much.
Great to see you, Megan.
Okay, so we have to kick it off with this disturbing news out of New Jersey and Colorado.
Both states passing laws now making abortion available throughout the entire pregnancy, all the way up to 40 weeks.
And both states are now touting clinics that have opened or about to open.
The one in Colorado is leaning in.
They say, oh, we're going to draw the line at 34 weeks.
34.
Now, not to make this personal, but I did ask Abby, my assistant, who went into early labor on her first child.
She had her child at 31 weeks.
And she's a beautiful, vibrant, awesome kid.
31.
They're talking about killing babies at 34 weeks and beyond in Colorado and New Jersey.
They've lost their ever-loving minds.
Ali Beth, what do you make of it?
Oh my goodness.
Well, let me preempt what I know is a rebuttal that a lot of pro-choicers say.
You've got a lot of reasonable, moderate people in your audience who might be thinking, well, Megan, they only have abortions at 34 weeks or in the third trimester because there's something wrong with the mother.
They've got to save the mother's life or there's something wrong with the child.
Look, the reality is, and this is not just me, this is an OBGYN perspective that I've heard many times.
There is never a reason at that point in the pregnancy to kill the baby to save the mother.
If the mother has to deliver, that does happen.
She has preeclampsia or something like that.
You deliver the child.
There is no reason to kill the child first.
And look, if a child has some kind of fatal fetal anomaly diagnosis, then you still care for the child.
I don't believe that a diagnosis of special needs should justify the murder of a human being in or outside of the womb.
There really is no justification for this whatsoever.
The one in Colorado is opening because the one they had been using called the Boulder Abortion Clinic just closed its doors after Dr. Warren Hearn retired following 50 years of performing late-term abortions in Boulder.
And the Washington Times reporting that at least half of his late-term clients had no diagnosis of severe fetal abnormalities.
Not a one, at least half.
They say as follows.
The Atlantic did an article on this in 2023.
Quote, the reason doesn't really matter to Hearn.
Hearn believes the viability of fetus is determined not by gestational age, but by a woman's willingness to carry it.
And so now this new clinic is going to become one of an estimated five U.S. clinics offering abortions up to 34 weeks of gestation, which is 10 weeks after fetal viability, where that child can live on its own outside of the womb.
It's so disgusting.
It's amazing to me.
Colorado has no limits whatsoever.
And one pro-life woman posted this video.
Allie, her name is Lydia Taylor Davis, and she's part of Students for Life.
She called one of these abortion clinics.
I don't know which one, just to see what they would say if she was like inquiring about getting an abortion at 34 weeks.
A warning to the audience, this is disturbing.
Here it is.
I'm not healthy.
I'm looking to have an abortion.
How about long along running?
I'm 34 right now.
My boyfriend is kind of out of the picture now, so I don't really have any support.
It's a four to five day procedure.
A needle is inserted through the abdomen and into the fetal heart.
Lidocaine is injected, and that will completely numb the fetus.
After that, we inject a medication called sigoxin and another medication called KCL, which will slow and then stop the fetal heartbeat.
And then we'll give you a medication called mesoprostal.
Mesoprostal will sort of induce contraction, will assist you in sort of pushing in the induction and then remove all of the products of conception.
You're definitely going to feel discomfort and cramping, but we do give you fentanyl and versed during the procedure.
We specialize in later trimester care.
Our doctor is very well versed in what he's doing and he's very good.
So I'm not like a rare situation.
Y'all help women this late in pregnancy all the time.
All the time.
Wow.
What stuck jumped out at me there, Ali Beth, was the products of conception will make sure the products of conception are out of you.
Yes, they have to euphemize before they euthanize this child because they know that saying what they're doing, killing this child, just isn't good PR.
It's not good messaging.
So they've had to dehumanize what a baby in the womb is so much so that people will be calloused when they hear about abortion.
And I just want to decode something there.
That woman on the other end said we inject something called KCL.
KCL stands for potassium chloride.
Potassium chloride is the same chemical combination that is used in the lethal injection of death row inmates to stop their heart.
However, of course, how that is conducted on death row inmates is actually a lot more merciful because they are put to sleep before this.
But for a child, that is injected to the heart, into the heart of the baby, this wiggling living human being injected into their heart to force cardiac arrest, to force a painful heart attack in this baby.
And then they are delivered and dismembered and discarded like toxic waste.
That is what is happening in the second and third trimester abortions that they're acting like it's no big deal, just like a root canal.
Oh my God.
I mean, I hate to even ask this, but what do they do with the remains of 34-week old babies who are killed like that by their own mothers?
Like, there's no burial.
There's no, they're not going to a cemetery.
I mean, are they treated like medical waste?
They're treated like medical waste, or in some cases, from what we've seen from investigations over the years, they are donated to science.
We know this actually, the NIH has talked about funding that kind of research before, and they'll say, oh, you know, it's an elective abortion, so it's no big deal.
But of course, there probably is some kind of monetary incentive there.
I don't think we really truly know just how dark this industry is.
I mean, if you're willing to kill a child, I don't think that you have any moral limits that would stop you from profiting off of that.
It's amazing, like the procedure we just discussed and potassium chloride injected into the baby's heart by its mother, by his or her own mother.
It's just so dark when you actually frame it in real terms, which you're never afraid to do.
You've been so good on this issue.
You actually went on that show surrounded, which Charlie went on.
Ben Shapiro's gone on.
They asked me to go on there, Ali, but I was like, I'm not going on there.
That's crazy talk.
I'm not doing it.
So hats off to you for taking on the challenge.
You're very brave and you're an expert on this.
Like you're so good on this issue.
And you took on 20 young people who were very pro-choice.
And here's a little bit of how that went in SOP 15.
When the majority of abortions happen, which is in the first six weeks of pregnancy, that fetus has not developed pain receptors.
That doesn't happen till maybe at the earliest 10 weeks, Ali.
So are you saying that murder say 22 to 24 weeks?
Is killing only wrong if someone can feel pain?
It's wrong for you to characterize it as violent.
It is violent.
It's painful when it's not.
It is violent.
There are a lot of people who are murdered who can't feel it.
Are you saying that that murder is justified because they can't feel it?
No, we're talking about abortion.
We're not talking about something else.
We're talking about abortion.
Abortion is healthcare for women who need it, who have uniquely.
In what other case is killing an innocent girls who have been raped, who have experienced incest, Allie?
That's less than 1% of all abortions.
If I said to you, okay, fine, we will only allow, which this is not my position, but if I said we will only allow abortion in those 1% of cases in which it's rape or incest, would you agree with me to ban the rest of abortions?
Did the denial of the denial of abortion health care to women is 100% harmful to the woman who absolutely needs to be a bad person.
Abortion is 100% harmful to the child.
Well done.
So not to college students in that instance, but progressives who are opposed to you on the issue.
And that guy was, I don't know what that guy's stake in it was, but boy, oh boy, he really, he really wanted those babies killed.
Yes, he was very worked up.
That was such an experience.
It was actually the day before Charlie's memorial.
I was working on very little sleep.
I was sad.
There was so much stress and I wanted to cancel.
But one of the last conversations that Charlie and I had was about Jubilee.
He loved Jubilee.
He loved debating, as we all know.
He was the best at it.
And he had sent me probably 40 texts in a row saying, this is what you need to do.
This is how you need to go in there.
This is the strategy.
And I really carried that with me.
I really did.
And I felt like, of course, I'm trying to do this for the glory of God.
I'm trying to do this for conservatives and Christians.
But I really felt like also, I want to do this for Charlie because I know that if he were here, he would say, you cannot cancel this.
You have to go in there.
You have to go in the lion's den.
So yeah, I was, I was very, very grateful.
And actually the first person who sat down, they didn't show this in the final cut, but he was so sweet.
He sat down and he said, I am so sorry about your friend, Charlie.
And that completely changed the tone of the entire debate.
And yeah, it really did kind of just endear me to them and made it easier to debate them in some way.
That's great.
That's amazing.
Can I ask you something, Allie?
Because you've been so good on your faith.
You're just like Charlie in that regard.
You could quote scripture with the best of them.
What have you been doing to get through like the grief around Charlie's death?
Like what do you turn to?
Does it ever cause you to question your faith?
Like, how have you been experiencing these last seven weeks?
Yeah.
Gosh, you know, the last time I was on was the day that Charlie was murdered.
I was on that morning talking about what I thought would be the saddest story of the day, and that's Irina Zaruska.
I had already, all three of us, you, me, and Megan Basham, had all been on the verge of tears, if not actively crying, watching this terrible footage.
I finished our interview and I got in the car to go to the doctor's appointment.
And I got a text from my publicist saying Charlie Kirk has been shot.
And I just thought, okay, that's not, that's not, that's not real.
She heard that or like he was shot in the arm or something crazy, which is obviously terrible.
But I called our mutual friend.
And as soon as he picked up the phone, he wasn't even talking.
He was crying.
And I was like, oh, okay.
This is real.
And of course, I turned around, broke down.
My husband and I, who worked together.
So we were both home, just completely lost it praying.
And of course, everything that everyone was doing.
And I was just, I can't even imagine how Erica felt infinity times more than you and I felt.
But man, I've just been so distraught in so many ways.
Of course, it's gotten better for us, those of us who are more removed, but there are still days where it just catches me in my throat or it hits me in the gut.
And I just find myself on the verge of tears when you were playing that video of his daughter saying, Daddy, Charlie Kirk.
I mean, I can't even say it, not only because of how sad that is for them, but also because, you know, I've got a six, four, and two-year-old daughters myself.
And it's like their voice.
It sounds like them.
And I'm just, I'm just so sad and so devastated.
And you asked if it makes me doubt.
I mean, of course, there are times that I question, like, why, why him?
Or why this?
Why now?
Why would you allow this to happen?
And then I go to the memorial and I saw you there very briefly.
And I don't know about you, but I felt maybe more tangibly than I've ever felt, like just the presence of the Holy Spirit.
There was this moment when the worship team was playing and it was just instrumental, which I learned was totally spontaneous.
And everyone started holding up their Charlie Kirk signs that said, send me, I'll go, or here I am, send me, which is a Bible verse from Isaiah.
And I just, it felt like this out of body spiritual experience.
And while this is not always a satisfying answer because it's still so tragic and seemingly premature and sad, I'm like, oh, okay, God is doing something.
I don't know exactly what it is, but I know that Bible sales are up.
I know that people are going back to church.
I know that I personally have had more opportunities to share the gospel than I maybe ever have in my entire life, just in the past few weeks, more questions from people who say, I used to hate you.
I used to hate Charlie's message, but now I want to know what he died for.
And so it doesn't make it any less sad.
And even Jesus wept when his friend Lazarus died.
But I do know that God is in the business of redemption, that he brings beauty out of ashes, that he brings light into darkness and hope when it seems like we have every reason to despair.
And so I know he's doing something bigger and better than what I would do or what I can see.
And that is faith.
Faith is the assurance of things hoped for.
It's the confidence in the things that we cannot see.
He doesn't spell it out for us.
He doesn't show us what it's going to look like.
But I do see now clearly that Charlie, he had to work as hard as he did and get up as early as he did and work as many days as he did because God knew that he would die at 31.
So he had a limited time to get it all done.
That's not what all of us are called to, but that's the pace that he had to go on his race because he was going to die early.
And thank the Lord, he finished really well.
Did you see the text messages that Candace Owens posted between her and Charlie from I think she said it was 2018.
So it was, you know, a few years back.
But they were chilling because they showed that Charlie knew he was likely to die early.
Like he was openly texting with her back then that he has nightmares about how it's going to end.
Like he, he, he felt pretty sure he knew how it was going to end.
I'm trying to see if I have it on my phone because I think I grabbed it.
I screen grabbed it because I was so like, oh my God, this is shocking.
I did see that.
That is extremely chilling.
Oh, here I have it.
Stand by.
Okay.
He wrote for the listening audience.
This is per Candace in a text exchange she posted.
He writes, you are going to be the iron, Kanye, you are going to be the Iron Lady of America.
I see it so freaking clearly.
I might be Moses, though.
I might not see this whole thing through, L-M-A-O.
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If that is the case, be my David.
She wrote, dude, you don't even realize your power yet.
He responded, if I tell you the true prophecy I know in my gut, it's really sad, but I hope it's wrong.
And then he went on to say as follows, anyway, I'm not sure if I will live to see the end of this revolution.
I believe you are the peace God meant me to meet that will finish the fight.
Since the beginning of Turning Point USA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time.
I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time, like all the time.
Anyway, that's a depressing conversation for another time.
Right, he says.
And then he finally says, I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true.
That is, I'd never heard Charlie talk like that.
I didn't realize he knew, like, I knew he was coming under increasing security threats, Allie, but that really does show you, frankly, how brave he was and also how insane the left has gotten for a long, long time.
Yeah.
And, you know, it kind of dispels, I think, a lot of the rumors or innuendo that have surrounded him and the cause of his death over the last few months, because we've been hearing, oh, it was only in the last few months that Charlie started feeling this pressure and he felt like, oh my gosh, they're going to hurt me.
Well, this goes to show actually he felt that seven years ago.
And I don't know why he would have had, you know, that intuition, except for maybe God at least was telling him, hey, we got things to do.
Okay.
You don't have that much time.
I mean, that's really haunting.
I don't think any of us would like to hear that message.
But what a man that Charlie was that instead of saying, okay, I'm out.
That's, I think, what most of us would do.
If we had this premonition that we're going to be slaughtered, most of us would stop talking.
Most of us would get out of the fight and say, I'm going to go be an accountant.
I'm going to stay home.
He could have done that.
He was so smart.
He could have made a lot of money in business doing whatever he wanted to.
But he knew as well as a finite human could that, okay, I think I'm going to die for this.
And he went even harder.
Like he went even more.
Yes.
He went into the lion's den more often.
I mean, that is the kind of courage that I think most of us don't have.
And a kind of faith in God that, okay, I don't know what this looks like, but I'm just going to follow you, even though it's really scary.
It actually reminds me of Jesus.
And I'm not saying that Charlie Kirk is Jesus.
I'm just saying this reminds me of when Jesus is about to go to the cross and he knows what's about to happen and he's in the Garden of Gethsemane and he says, Jesus, who is God?
He says, Father, please take this cup from me.
Like, I don't want it.
I don't want to suffer in this way yet.
Not my will, but your will be done.
And again, Charlie is not the savior, but all of us as Christians are called to do that.
Lord, I don't know what this looks like, but you're calling me to do it.
And I'm just going to obey you and trust you.
And he knew, like Charlie knew that the cost was worth it.
And that's amazing.
Yeah, it really is extraordinary.
All great points.
Not everyone shares this commitment to faith.
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Some people find it worthy of mocking.
And that leads me to former House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who is in the news today for the following soundbite.
She's such an odd, strange, nasty person.
Here is SOT 13.
Do you agree with apparently a big swath of Americans, according to our last election, that Democrats pushed the country too far to the left, specifically on cultural issues?
No, I don't agree with that at all.
I think that we are a reflection of our country.
We are a beautiful, diverse country.
And if they find that offensive with their DEI initiatives and they want to sell it as we're also left, it's ridiculous or they're undermining our culture.
Look, there's certain people in the country who don't want to see, they don't want to see women, LGBTQ, people of color, immigrants taking their place in anything.
And that's just the way it is.
That's not America's problem.
So we respect everybody in our country.
So for them to be saying what they're saying about people is like, and you're people of faith?
You're people of faith?
You go to church on Sunday and pray on church on Sunday and pray on people the rest of the week.
What is this?
She slipped into a little fake southern accent there.
You're going to pray on Sunday?
And then what is it?
You're people of faith?
Okay.
Your thoughts on her and not challenging the faithfulness of those on the right who she thinks just want to get rid of people who don't look like them.
Look, if Democrats represented America, those are her words as a quote, then they would have won the election.
Then they wouldn't have had a problem winning the election because they would have had the majority of the vote, but they didn't.
They didn't just lose the electoral vote.
They lost the popular vote too.
So that means you don't represent the values of most of America.
Maybe there is a tiny sliver percentage of people who hate all of those categories that she just listed.
They're not enough to win an election.
I don't even think they're enough to influence an election.
So this is what the internet calls a cope.
She is coping.
Instead of being self-aware and saying, how can we win the next election?
How can we change?
How can we moderate?
She's not even attempting to do that.
Right.
And she's basically ignoring, the question was about polls that have just come out showing that the Democrat Party has realized that it's gone too far to the left.
And Democrats think in particular on immigration and crime, like this massive survey that they did of tens of thousands of Democrats, that they've gone too far left in particular on immigration and on crime, but also on social issues.
So the reporter is basically saying, do you agree?
And she manages to twist it into a right-wing people are threatened by black and brown people and anyone who doesn't look like them while lying about their faith.
Okay.
Okay.
So this is a woman who very much favors abortion and is going to church and taking communion.
Okay.
All right.
I don't think she should be our teacher on matters of faith.
Okay.
Let's keep going because I've got to ask you about glamour.
Glamour UK, it's a women's magazine and they are presenting their women of the year awards.
And I realize no one really cares what glamour thinks, but this one's so egregious, it's worthy of a mention.
On the cover of Glamour UK is not, well, I'll show you the cover.
For the listening audience, we have nine people here who look like women, sort of, in skimpy little shirts that read something about the dolls.
And it says, protect the dolls, protect the dolls.
And it's not like, see if you can find the trans person in here.
They're all trans.
All nine of these people are men pretending to be women.
And the cover literally reads women of the year.
And then they go through and do interviews with these women who are, I guess, fine with the protect the dolls slogan.
One of them objected, but everybody else seemed fine with it.
Here's one, Munya.
She's a model in London.
He, he is a model in London.
There's a level of privilege whiteness provides for dark-skinned black people, including, or then he says, for dark-skinned black people, including in fashion, it's also harder for us to access the opportunities than our white counterparts.
So this guy's got it all going on.
I'm black.
I'm a man pretending to be a woman.
And I object to white privilege and also women privilege, which I want to have but can't.
Then there's another one, Belle Priestley, who says, one big thing you would really like to see change for, quote, trans women, Belle would like the following to change.
I'd love the narrative to be changed around dating us, particularly for guys.
It's not a crime to fancy trans women, meaning men.
It's not a negative thing.
The stigma makes our lives hell that like straight white guys don't want to go to bed with these people.
And here's the last one I'll read to you.
This person goes by Maya Memi, who's a DJ musician in London, and says the following.
I think people just need to understand not only are we human, most of us are better than everyone else.
Put some respect on it, bitch.
I look better than you.
I dress better than you.
I smell better than you.
Please learn that and understand that.
One of Glamour's potential, quote, women of the year.
Thoughts on that?
Yeah, that's definitely a woman.
I want to share a bathroom with my daughters.
Sounds lovely.
Okay, gosh, I've just got so many thoughts on this.
So a doll is a fake woman.
Are they trying to be on the nose?
Like protect the dolls?
Are they like a fake woman like a doll?
I'm just not totally sure what the positive PR messaging is surrounding that.
I just find this very disturbing.
You know, the UK has made some really good advances in recognizing that, you know, things like puberty blockers are dangerous for children.
They're dangerous for everyone, should not be given to adolescents.
And yet this media company is hoisting up this absolute delusion that a man can be born in the wrong body and can be a woman by declaration, and that we should submit to that.
That women should submit to no man except for the man who puts himself in a skirt and comes into my bathroom.
No, thank you.
Okay, that leads me, last but certainly not least, to Sidney Sweeney, who is all woman, real woman, actual woman, and absolutely stunning.
So she was on the red carpet.
What was she on the red carpet for?
I can't remember what she was doing there, but she was on the red carpet last night and she decided to show off her number one asset, which contrary to the American Eagle jeans ad is not really her jeans.
It's her enormous breasts, which are spectacular.
No one would take that away from her.
But controversial opinion, Allie, I object to this.
I disapprove of the dress she wore because it's completely see-through.
You can see her entire like nipples.
She reminded me of Kim Kardashian, you know, who overshares and then takes away like the thing that is the sexiest, which is like every guy's hoping to be the one who actually sees them for real and leaving a little to the imagination.
Now, I know this is being universally celebrated online, but I have to say, even though Sydney Sweeney fan loved the jeans campaign, I thought this is a rare misstep.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, she's absolutely beautiful and no one, no one at all is trying to deny that.
But I, I mean, I am definitely pro-modesty.
It's not that I'm pro-Burqa, but I think that we should do everything we can to like draw the eyes to the beauty of the face.
There's nothing wrong with a womanly figure.
I think that God made it and it is beautiful.
And there's a way to dress that with dignity and respect.
But I feel like we could draw the line at Areola.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I just feel like maybe.
Draw the line at Areola.
That should be the rule.
Make t-shirts, Megan.
Sell them in your merch shop, please.
So walk me through this because I actually am curious.
We've seen this as a growing trend among these Hollywood celebrities.
And it's always a very beautiful woman.
I will say, unlike going to the beaches of France, where the nude people are always gross old men, the women who take it all off for these photo shoots in America do tend to have the rocket bodies.
And I get it.
Like, was it that Irina shank or whatever?
I don't want to wrongfully disparage the model who was like walking across the hotel lobby at Conn, France in nothing by saying the wrong one.
But we've seen, we've seen this.
Then the Kanye wife pictures, Bianca Sensori showing up literally naked at the Grammys, more and more Lauren Sanchez going out in like an outfit that's just pure lace, just strategically covering only a couple of things.
Why?
Why did these otherwise stunning women who would get plenty of attention just by wearing like a great, a well-styled dress and having their hair and makeup, you know, done right, why do they feel the need to take it here?
I think there are so many answers for this.
I think maybe on an individual level, it's probably as superficial as just liking the attention, liking how they look in the mirror, knowing that they are going to be written positively about.
And maybe Sidney Sweeney has just been like, okay, I'm going to be a lightning rod and I'm going to cause controversy.
Maybe her PR people have decided that that's a good thing.
On a macro cultural level, you could say that it is like a big pendulum swing to the other side.
On the one hand, you have, oh, men can be women.
There is no definition of a woman.
Femininity is something that is weak and a white cis hetero woman should never be on the cover of any magazine.
So maybe it's a little bit of a swing of Sidney Sweeney saying, you know what, I'm hot and I know I'm hot.
I know people think I'm hot and I don't really care.
So you could kind of analyze it in two different ways, but you know, Occam's razor, it's probably the most obvious thing.
It's probably just because she likes how she looks.
No, you're right.
I'd much rather look at Sidney Sweeney in a sheer dress at whatever event this was than look at nine fake women on the cover of UK Glamour.
Much rather.
I guess I just want like for my daughter, you know, I want her to look at amazing women like that and say, I can be totally sexy when that time comes in my life with an appropriate outfit on.
Like I don't actually have to show Areola in order to get male attention or feel gorgeous or sexy.
I don't know.
I mean, I, no, I kind of think she might have been misled into it.
That's my bet because like when I did a saucy photo shoot one time for it was GQ, I think it was GQ.
And when I turned 40, but I, it was like what I wore was appropriate.
It was just a slip dress.
That's all it was.
I did not show anything close to Areola and I never would, but I think probably she's very young.
I think she's only like 26.
And I guarantee you somebody brought the dress to her and was like, now we'll take it next level.
And she trusted the wrong person.
And before you knew it, you know, we had all seen it.
And she'll, she's not going to hurt her at all.
It's just people like us who I think were becoming her new fans who are like, okay, that wasn't, that wasn't the move.
No.
And self-objectification is still objectification.
And look, like, I think all porn is bad.
I think it's horrible.
I think it's bad for people.
And I think this kind of thing is making it even more difficult for the honorable men out there who said, you know, I'm not going to look at porn.
I'm not going to go to porn websites.
It's bad that addiction is horrible.
It ruins relationships and sexuality and all of that.
Well, this makes it things like this make it even more difficult because now you don't even have to go to a porn site.
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All you have to do is log on to X or open up Instagram or something like that.
And you've got Sidney Sweeney with her full titties out.
And that is just like, that's just tough.
That's just tough.
And for those of us who don't want to see it, like I didn't, you know, none of us chose to see something like that.
And now the fullness of someone's nakedness is on display.
I don't like it.
There is fullness.
That's for sure.
I did not have Allie Bestucky saying titties in my brought it out in me.
I'm, by the way, I'm saying that it's not good.
I needed the laugh today.
Thank you, my friend.
Thanks for being here.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Megan.
A pleasure, as always.
Okay, coming up next, the man who could be the next governor of New Jersey.
And amazingly, he's a Republican.
We will talk to Jack Chitterelli right after this break.
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New Jersey has long been a blue state with Democrats winning most elections easily.
The last time the state voted for a Republican for U.S. Senator was 1972.
The last time the state voted for a Republican president was George H.W. Bush in 1988.
Republican Chris Christie made national news when he was elected governor in the Garden State in 2009 and then again in 2013, but that did not end well.
Republican Jack Chittarelli shocked many when he lost to the incumbent Democrat governor, Phil Murphy, back in 2021 by just three points.
All of us were like, what?
Three?
That's an amazing feat in the state of New Jersey.
Well, Chittarelli is once again the Republican nominee for governor.
And with his opponent, Mikey Sherrill, mired in multiple scandals and the state struggling, MK Media's own Mark Halperin, host of Next Up with Mark Halperin, says Chittarelli has a real chance of victory here.
All the issues he raises, energy costs, traffic congestion, uh, uh, jobs, all these things are problems in taxes, all these things are problems in New Jersey.
So, I think that message uh, not just as fits the mood of the state and and is what the same kinds of things that got Chris Christie elected.
So, even though it's become a very blue state, they haven't elected a Republican senator in forever, uh, or voted for a Republican for president, I think, since Bush 43 or 41.
It's it's uh, it did they did elect Chris Christie not long ago on all the same kind of themes: corruption in Trenton, economics out of whack, etc.
So, I agree with Dan that uh Chitterelli's momentum is not what it was, but no one I know in either party who who works in the state familiar with this race, no one would be surprised if Chitterelli won.
No one.
Oh, here with me now, Jack Chittarelli himself.
Jack, so nice to meet you.
Thanks for coming on.
Thanks for having me on, Megan.
And uh, on Tuesday, I'm gonna make you a true believer.
We're gonna win this race.
Oh, shoot it in my veins.
How?
How exactly are you gonna do it?
The polls are tightening, and I've been very encouraged by the latest polls.
But how do you get it over the finish line?
First of all, Megan, the polls that we trust, including Emerson this morning, have it as a literally a dead heat.
There's a couple that have me up by a point or two.
Listen, people across the state are ticked off after eight years of failed policies of the current administration, all of which have been endorsed by my opponent.
She's not from New Jersey, she hasn't been able to answer the most basic questions.
And as you mentioned at the very beginning, there's been a number of scandals that call into question her character.
We're just going to continue to get out there.
And don't forget, the majority party in New Jersey are the 2.5 million unaffiliated, independent voters that lean right.
And this time they favor Chittarelli.
Can they, what if they haven't registered?
Is there any way to still register to vote in New Jersey before Tuesday or no?
We don't have same-day registration here in New Jersey, and that's not something I support.
What I do support is voter ID, and that's something I'll champion once we win.
Well, if you are registered, get up off of your couch, get up, get up.
We can actually get a Republican running the state and restore order or some sort of decency to New Jersey.
I want to show one thing that is personal to yours truly because I do spend every summer in New Jersey.
I'm a homeowner there.
This is small ball, but I think everybody watching this will understand our frustration.
This is from a report that aired on Fox News.
Fox News is Brian Yenis.
I don't know how to pronounce his last name.
Forgive me.
Yeah.
Reporting today.
Watch this.
Now, Chittarelli also says he's been surprised by how fired up voters are over a sleeper issue potentially in this campaign.
His plan to get rid of the state's plastic bag and single-use paper bag ban.
Yes.
Come out of the store with a bunch of items and you got to purchase a new bag.
It's really ridiculous.
It's so silly.
My car is filled with all those other kind of bags and they're not biodegradable.
It's definitely a struggle when you need to find the plastic bag.
They don't exist anymore, but I think that's a good thing.
It's not a bad thing.
They are not single-use bags.
I use them all the time for all sorts of stuff.
And I recycle when they are finished.
So what is the problem?
We need plastic bags.
We do.
We spoke to voters all over New Jersey, Harris.
It is a hot topic people love to talk about.
Chittarelli says it's his number one applause line, it seems like, at his rallies.
Cheryl says she wants to keep the ban, so we'll see.
This could win you, New Jersey.
It could.
So she's doubled down on the Green New Deal that the current governor's put in place.
It has two things that people can't stand.
The first is the plastic bag ban.
We're getting rid of that.
And the second thing is wind farms off the Jersey shore.
If the current government and my opponent were from New Jersey, they'd know that the Jersey Shore is Sancho Sanc and we're not going to have wind farms off our Jersey shore.
We will lower the cost of electricity by pulling out a Reggie, but we're not going to have wind farms off the Jersey shore when I'm governor.
It's bad enough when you go to the grocery store and you have to buy all those new allegedly recyclable bags like that you bought the last time, but you forgot to bring them in with you.
But let me say this.
Try going to Bed Bath and Beyond or one of those stores where you have to get like big things and a lot of them, you know, like dish towels or bath mats, whatever.
Like I had to do this past summer.
And they won't give you a bag.
It's like either they let you take the cart directly to your car or not.
But then when you get home, you need a bag.
It's like, what's so wrong with plastic bags?
I love that you've made this an issue.
Now talk to me about your opponent's military history because she's not even been consistent on the story.
And I have to say, I smell a rat in her story about why she didn't walk in her graduation from the Naval Academy.
Megan, she's changed her story three times, which strongly suggests she's not telling the truth.
But listen, she could very easily come clean by approving the release of her disciplinary records.
Only she can do that.
If what she's telling us is the truth, the disciplinary records will confirm that.
But there's a pattern here, Megan.
She wasn't allowed to walk at her naval graduation at the Naval Academy.
And by the way, she's built her entire political brand about her attendance at the Naval Academy, but now we know that she was severely punished.
She violated federal law while in the Congress when it came to stock trades and stock reporting.
And she tripled her net worth in only six years' time in the Congress, but can't explain how.
I mean, come on.
Who wouldn't know if they made $7 million?
Yes, she does seem a little befuddled on whether she made money or how.
Do we have that with the Charlemagne exchange?
It's one of our symbols.
I'm trying to look.
Yeah, 31.
Let's listen.
So when Newsmax claims that you made $7 million from stock trades, what are they talking about?
Newsmax is, first of all, a very questionable organization that is paying multiple fines.
I'm not sure what they're talking about.
Well, did you make $7 million in stock trades at all?
i haven't i i don't believe i did but i'd have to go see what what that was alluding to again what kind of came from it was a report in the no i know it's from newsmax which again And then another one in the Washington Free Beacon, which is a conservative leaning platform, but they said you had increased from between $733,209 to over $4 million in 2019, and then between $4 million to $13 million in 2024.
So that's where you got the $7 million increase.
They averaged out that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, both my husband and I come from very middle-class families.
My parents were the first in their family to go to college and his were both teachers.
And then we both went into the military.
And afterwards, he got a good job.
And we've been really lucky.
Okay.
She's much happier playing the destitution derby card, but she's a multi-millionaire who won't own up to exactly how or when she got the funds.
Exactly.
And she should know something about paying fines.
She had to pay them for breaking federal law.
It's embarrassing and it's a disqualifier.
She's been going all around saying she'll be the most transparent candidate and governor ever, but yet she's not transparent about her own personal situation that has been legitimately called into question.
And by the way, Megan, the New York Times reports that while she's sitting on the House Armed Services Committee, she's trading defense stocks.
I mean, are you kidding me?
It's so unethical.
The issue of boys playing in girls' sports is another clear dividing line between you and this Mikey Cheryl.
She favors it.
She wants to allow this to keep happening.
This mother of two daughters voted yes twice to allow biological boys to participate in girls' sports.
That's an 80-20 issue.
And I just find this so hypocritical because you and I both know the Democrats will always talk about their defense of women.
Well, you're undermining Title IX by allowing biological boys to participate in girls' sports.
But this is somebody that also supports one of Phil Murphy's policies, our current governor, where school districts keep secrets from parents, which I think is immoral, indecent, wrong, and dangerous.
If we really care about kids, stop allowing biological boys and girls' sports.
And we're getting rid of policy 5756.
No more keeping secrets from parents when I'm governor.
Before you came on, we were talking about how Colorado and New Jersey, New Jersey are now the only two states in the union, thanks to Phil Murphy, that are allowing abortion on demand all the way through the 40th week of pregnancy.
It's crazy.
So I have two questions for you.
Number one, what would you do about that now law in New Jersey if you became governor?
And number two, how do you get a state that's crazy enough to actually pass that?
You know, they had to have state lawmakers involved.
Phil Murphy had to sign off on it to vote for a Republican.
Yeah, first, let me say, Megan, that back at 21 with that very close race that I lost, you alluded to, you know, I flipped eight seats in the state legislature, and that was with wind in my face.
We got some serious wind in our back this time.
I could flip 13 seats.
And when we do that, we'll have something we haven't had in 25 years, a Republican majority in our state legislature.
But listen, I'm going to fight like hell to make sure there are not late-term abortions.
Taxpayer dollars are not paying for abortions, but most of all, parental notification.
Something else my opponent does not support.
I mean, in New Jersey, you can't get your ears pierced under the age of 18 without the permission of your parents.
And yet a 15, 16, or 17-year-old woman is going to get an abortion, not have parents be notified.
Another one of those 80-20 issues here in New Jersey that I'm going to fight like hell for.
The thing is, New Jersey does have large pockets of red.
It's kind of like California in that it's almost uniformly blue when you look at who's running it, who are the elected lawmakers, but it has large pockets of red.
You know, trust me, like Jersey Shore, Atlantic City.
You go there, you're overwhelmed with Trump flags.
So there are Republicans, long-suffering Republicans in the state of New Jersey.
She's trying to depress your turnout by suggesting you killed people.
That's where she went because you ran this medical company that put out materials involving opioids that downplayed the risks back at a time when a lot of people didn't understand.
But in any event, here was the attack she launched on you at the debate.
It was sought 34.
Let's watch it.
Here's the fact.
I got to walk at my college graduation.
Here's the fact.
I got to walk at my college graduation.
I got to walk at my college graduation.
And I'm so glad that you then went on to kill tens of thousands of people in New Jersey, including children.
As they got, you just broke the law.
In fact, your campaign right now is under federal investigation for how you illegally got access to my records.
So to say that right now, and I think you're trying to divert from the fact that you killed tens of thousands of people by printing your misinformation, your propaganda, and then getting paid to develop an app so that people could more easily get the opioids once they were addicted.
How do you respond to that?
Megan, it is a baseless, reckless lie from a desperate candidate who felt the heat from the Naval Academy revelations and the revelations about her net worth and breaking federal law and stock trades.
She cracked.
But I'll tell you what, that one's going to end her up in court.
We'll be filing defamation suit real soon on that one.
And you want to talk about hypocrisy.
Guess what we found out 48 hours after she made those baseless claims?
That she took massive campaign contributions from the very same company she was accusing me of colluding with.
Wow.
Okay, let's talk horse race because we want to give people a realistic assessment of where things are.
You mentioned the Emerson poll, which now has this dead heat, which is amazing, amazing.
But New Jersey has early voting too, and we have to look at that.
And it sounds like so far, I'm a little worried about the early voting.
Explain to me why I shouldn't be, because here's my producer with it with the glass half empty take.
Democrats, again, won the early person vote, in-person vote on Tuesday.
You would won it on Monday, but they took it back on Tuesday.
Republicans still behind in the overall early person, early in-person vote.
Republicans actually won the early in-person vote in 2024, and Trump still lost New Jersey to Harris.
So that's scary.
You look at the mail-in vote, Dems are up 26.4 points over the GOP in the early in-person plus mail-in vote.
So what this tells me is that you really need them to show up on Election Day in droves.
You walk me off the cliff.
Okay, first of all, keep in mind with regard to the polls that show this literally as a dead heat that traditionally, historically speaking, Republicans under poll in this state because we're outnumbered by so many Democrats.
But the other thing to keep in mind is back in 2021, I beat Phil Murphy, the current governor, on Election Day, in-person voting on the machines by 250,000.
So if we're going into Election Day somewhat tied based on the vote-by-mail ballots that have been returned and early voting, nine days of early voting, we're in really good shape.
Oh, okay.
I see your point.
Yes, you just need to keep, you're not expecting to win the mail-in vote and the early vote as a Republican.
You just have to keep the margin tight enough that your day of vote will put you over the edge.
I'm not ruling it out that we don't win the nine days of early voting, Megan.
If you take a look at the motivation of voters, the motivation is all on my side.
And one of the crosstabs in many of the polls measures enthusiasm.
I'm beating my opponent by 10 points when it comes to the enthusiasm factor.
How could you not be?
She's so milquetoast and not likable.
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I don't understand.
New Jerseyans are so down to earth.
They're fun.
They're funny.
They're fighters.
I don't get that they're resonating with her or that Phil Murphy would resonate with them.
Like explain to me what's happening with this electorate, that it's this tight between you and this woman.
She's not from New Jersey, and she's demonstrated that time and time again, Megan.
We get up and down the state eight days a week.
She has ducked appearance after appearance after appearance.
Yesterday was another day in front of 500 members of an important business advocacy here in the state.
You got to get out there and press the flesh.
We do.
Listen, I'm very confident.
Everything learned from 21 and the closeness of that race, this one feels very, very different.
The energy is electric.
The reception in minority communities has been overwhelmingly positive this time around.
And keep in mind one other thing.
13 prominent Democrats, all current office holders, have endorsed my candidacy.
When Democrats in this state start endorsing the Republican nominee, that's telling you something.
Meanwhile, it's like you get this gift.
I saw you poster about it on an X just as we go to voting week.
Drag queens are being invited by the Democrat Union to appear at their next month big, I don't know, it's there, some woke event called Celebrating the Vibrant World of Drag.
This is the union's annual convention in Atlantic City, touting equity, justice, and et cetera, ahead of learning.
Did New Jerseyans even know about this?
Do you think that this is just a matter of like watching too much CNN and not knowing this is happening?
This is the teachers union, which will be convening in about a month's time, and they're advertising their programming for this year's convention, and one of which is this drag programming.
I don't understand it one bit.
I find it disgusting.
Listen, I'm a live and let-live guy, but there's stuff that does not belong in our schools.
That includes the LGBTQQ curriculum.
It also includes this drag thing that the NJEA, the teachers union, has going on.
Listen, they already own my opponent.
They've been lying about me left and right, but I take it as a compliment.
To me, it's a sign of desperation.
Jack, let's go.
Let's do this thing.
You got a couple of days to go.
New Jerseyans, get up, get off the couch.
Make sure if you're registered to vote, you vote for Jack Chettarelli.
We cannot have this woman taking New Jersey into another four plus years of Democrat rule.
Thank you, my friend.
It's jack4newjersey.com.
Jack4newjersey.com if you want to help him out.
Good luck.
Megan, thank you.
All the best.
Wow.
Okay, thanks for joining me today.
And all week tomorrow, you're going to get to watch and listen to our MK live show from Saturday with Link, Mark Halpern, and Glenn Beck.