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Welcome To The Megan Kelly Show 00:02:05
	Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon East.
	Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.
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	The left and the media have found new ways to blame former President Donald Trump for his own attempted assassination, the second one in two months.
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, yet, it's totally believable.
	And then the Springfield, Ohio story continues to be covered in an absolutely absurd way.
	Turns out those bomb threats, some 30 plus of them, they were from overseas, from some other country.
	And yet, if you read the New York Times, you would think that it was still the fault of JD Vance and Donald Trump.
	There's a lot to get to.
	We've got a big show for you today.
	We were going to have Eric Prince here for the first time later, plus Ayan Hirsi Ali, who's got some thoughts on the migration issue.
	But we begin today with Piers Morgan, host of Piers Morgan Uncensored on YouTube.
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	Piers, welcome back to the show.
	Thank you, Megan.
	Lovely to be here.
	Lovely to have you.
	All right.
	So, the reaction now in these leftist corners is coming fast and furiously.
Trump Assassination Attempts Explained 00:15:19
	And it's interesting because I said yesterday, what are they going to do?
	Because we're so close to the election, they're not going to be able to pretend they care about Donald Trump and the assassination attempt.
	And they're certainly not going to want to pull back on their incendiary rhetoric.
	So they're in a bit of a pickle.
	And as I've watched them over the past 48 hours, it turns out, no pickle, no pickle at all.
	Pedal to the metal on the incendiary rhetoric.
	And also, it's all Donald Trump's fault.
	He has only himself to blame for the fact that twice now in two months, someone tried to kill him.
	What do you make of it?
	Well, my immediate take on this is: isn't it incredible that the man who was president several years ago and may be president again later this year or early next year is in a situation where he has two assassination attempts on his life within a few weeks.
	And when I turned on the news today, a lot of the news channels are already keen to move on.
	This happened on Sunday.
	Do you think they'd be moving on if this was Joe Biden or Kamala Harris who had been out in public when some lunatic with an AK-47 had their sights trained on them?
	Of course it wouldn't.
	It'd be the biggest news story for several weeks.
	And it shows the desperation to me of the very liberal skewed mainstream media in America to just not want to focus on these assassination attempts on Trump, notwithstanding the fact that they are the biggest news story that I can think of.
	When has there been a presidential candidate who within a space of a few weeks has had two attempts on his life, one where he's hit by a bullet and one where he comes within three, four minutes. of having an AK-47 bullet smashing into his brains, which is almost certainly what would have happened if that Secret Service agent hadn't somehow spotted in the bushes a rifle barrel.
	So this is an enormous story, and yet already everyone's keen to move on.
	And already what they're trying to do is say this had nothing to do with the rhetoric that we spewed about Trump for years, that he is the new Hitler, that he is a clear existential threat to democracy in America and the world.
	You don't think that an impressionable mind might at some stage go, wow, this guy's going to kill democracy and he's the new Hitler.
	I better stop it.
	And that is what is happening.
	And it's incredibly dangerous.
	And I just look, I'm looking at this from across the pond, completely aghast that twice now, the Secret Service have been, in my estimation, an abject failure in protecting Donald Trump from these lunatics.
	They have got to step up and raise their game.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	We'll do them second.
	Let me stay on the media for one minute.
	Not to be outdone by her counterparts at NBC, Lester Holt, and ABC, which was hosted by Lindsay Davis, debate moderator on Sunday night, who immediately tried to shift from Trump was almost killed to Trump is basically almost getting others killed in Springfield, Ohio with his rhetoric.
	CBS is Nora O'Donnell, who was on her way out.
	She's been booted from the position.
	Oh, it was a voluntary resignation.
	Okay, sure.
	And she decided to report on the Trump assassination as follows.
	Look at this.
	Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric, but the former president's own words seem to be increasing the threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio.
	That's where a false and ugly accusation against Haitians, thousands of whom are legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.
	Okay, so we now know that these bomb threats that were called into Springfield were from some country overseas.
	The Ohio governor told us that.
	He didn't yet say which country.
	I'm sure the Democrats will think it's the Russians.
	But it was not a Donald Trump inspired thing.
	We don't know what it was that was behind the foreign country trying to mess with us.
	But still, the news agencies double down on somehow this is the fault of Trump advance.
	Yeah, but it's worse than that.
	What it's also doing is massively downplaying what has happened to Donald Trump.
	And they're doing this quite deliberately.
	And again, I ask the question, if this had been Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, who twice in the space of two months have had assassination attempts on their lives, do you think anyone in Americans' mainstream media would be trying to immediately downplay that and immediately look for things that they have both said in the previous year to try and justify the fact that they might also be culpable for potentially creating violence that hasn't actually happened.
	So there's a complete double standard here in the way they're treating the story.
	And Donald Trump, look, he's no angel.
	You and I know that, Megan.
	We've known Trump a long time, good, bad, and ugly.
	There's all those strands to him.
	But right now, he is the Republican nominee for president and the elections in 50 days time.
	And right now, he is showing unbelievable personal courage.
	Would you be going out again for any more rallies if you were Trump with two people trying to kill you in the space of two months?
	And why are those people doing this?
	Yes, they're deranged.
	Of course they are.
	Anyone that does this kind of thing is a lunatic.
	But why are they doing it?
	Well, in the second case of this shooter on the golf course, you could chart a radicalization from someone who was originally pro-Trump, then became a vehement Trump hater, but somebody who began to parrot exact talking points that were said about Trump by Carmela Harris, about him being a threat to democracy and so on.
	This is somebody who has a deranged mind who is being directly influenced to think that Trump represents an existential threat to democracy.
	And maybe he's also heard that he's the new Hitler because they keep using that phrase about him.
	And I think it's completely outrageous to equate Donald Trump with the leader of the Nazis who murdered 12 million people.
	So there is a shocking double standard.
	There is a shocking attempt to diminish and reduce the impact of what happened on Sunday and indeed two months ago, about which we still don't know enough of that first assassination attempt.
	And what they're trying to do is say, you know what?
	This guy had it coming.
	And I had a guest on Uncensored yesterday who made a very good point, which is, I think it was Ben Ferguson, who said, you know, this is a bit like the argument that people use when women go out and they wear, you know, a short mini skirt or something and they get raped.
	Well, they brought it on themselves, didn't they?
	It's that kind of equivocation that Trump brought this on himself because he uses incendiary rhetoric.
	And I think it's completely shameful.
	I'm thinking of the song from the play Chicago sung by Roxy.
	He had it coming.
	He should have been there.
	That's really what the media is singing from every rooftop today.
	He had it coming.
	Here is Tom Nichols, who is absolutely disgusting.
	He writes for The Atlantic with the following headline.
	Donald Trump is using another possible attempt on his life to inflame tensions in America, which is one more reason he should never be president again.
	It's unbelievable.
	What do you mean, possible attempt on his life?
	A guy literally sat in a bush for 12 hours.
	He had an AK-47 with a scope on it.
	He had the ceramic tiles to protect himself in a shootout.
	He had a GoPro to record all this.
	And he was a pathological Trump hater by the time he did all this.
	And we know that from his social media trail and other stuff.
	So this was not potential or possible.
	This guy came to kill Donald Trump.
	And if it hadn't been for one Secret Service agent with very sharp eyes, seeing the barrel of a rifle poking out of a bush, four minutes later, Donald Trump would have arrived at that hole, the green, and he would have been in clear sight within, I don't know, 30, 40 yards of a guy with an AK-47 with a scope on it.
	He'd be dead.
	So this again is part of this campaign that is already going on.
	We're only two days on, Megan.
	Again, can you imagine if this is Barack Obama or Biden or Bill Clinton before?
	If this had been this attempt, would this be how the media would respond?
	That you had it coming?
	That you shouldn't have been saying XYZ or you wouldn't have these people wanting to kill you?
	And it's not to justify everything that Trump says.
	He says a lot of dumb things.
	I thought it was stupid of him to come out and say, I hate Taylor Swift.
	I think it's an act of self-harm.
	Why would you alienate millions of young women voters because they happen to like Taylor Swift and you don't like her?
	Because she votes on the other side.
	I think those kind of things are stupid and a bit incendiary.
	But there is a massive difference between Trump gobbing off about Taylor Swift and what is going on here with people literally trying to kill him.
	And they're doing it with an unbelievably alarming regularity.
	And you know what's so galling is after the first assassination attempt, since we're doing it on fingers now, one and two, Trump really didn't go here.
	He didn't actually go on offense against being on the cover of the new republic as Hitler, not to mention several other magazines.
	He was, I think, a little bit more rattled after actually having been shot at that and one of his supporters was killed and so on.
	So he held his fire on this in sort of saying to everybody, stop talking about me this way.
	And then it happened again.
	And after this time, he released a statement and then said something to Fox News about they're going to get me killed.
	They are getting me shot at twice.
	And here are some examples of the things they're saying.
	And then you've got pricks, forgive me, like this guy, Tom Nichols, saying he's using the possible attempt on his life to inflame tensions in America.
	Finally, he's speaking out to say, stop talking about me this way.
	And the less reaction is, you're inflaming.
	And here was Morning Joe.
	Same thing full on this morning.
	He brought it upon himself.
	It's his rhetoric that's led us to have to say the nasty things about him.
	And they put together peers a butted sat, butted sound on tape of their worst examples of the things Trump has said.
	And I found that interesting.
	They have a team of 100 people.
	What did they find?
	Let's watch it.
	They said, Mr. Trump, there may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience.
	So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them.
	Would you seriously?
	I will pay for the legal fees.
	I promise.
	I promise.
	We will fight for America like no one has ever fought before.
	2024 is our final battle.
	It's our final battle.
	We're going to win that battle.
	We're going to turn this nation around.
	We're going to make America great again.
	America first.
	But it's our final battle.
	It's the last battle.
	If we don't win on November 5th, I think our country is going to cease to exist.
	It could be the last election we ever have.
	I actually mean that we don't win.
	I think this could be the last election we ever have.
	Comrade Kamala Harris, you're fired.
	You're fired.
	Get out.
	Get out.
	She shouldn't be there anyway.
	She got no votes.
	She's a threat to democracy, right?
	That's what they say.
	They always say, Donald Trump, you know, it's a soundbite for them.
	Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
	Now she's a threat.
	That's it.
	And can I tell you the number of papers I read this morning saying he says she's a threat to democracy, something he only unleashed in response to say, I'm the threat.
	She's the threat, right?
	It's so, that's it.
	That's all they're showing about Trump.
	And what they're not doing, Megan, they're not saying that she or Joe Biden are the next Adolf Hitler.
	And this is what they say about Trump all the time.
	And every time they do it, I go nuts at them because I say, hang on a second.
	Do you know what you're saying?
	Do you understand that you're equating Donald Trump, who famously never took America to war in the four years that he was the president of the United States, pretty uniquely for a Republican president, I think.
	You're equating him to a man who ran a genocidal regime of monsters, the Nazis, murdered 12 million people, executed a holocaust on the Jewish people of 6 million who died many in ovens, gassed to death by these monsters.
	And you're seriously telling the American people on an almost daily, hourly basis that Donald Trump is the next Hitler.
	He's here.
	He's the new Hitler.
	I find that so incredibly offensive.
	And yeah, he doesn't do that.
	But look what happened last week.
	On Tuesday, Kamala Harris stood up there in front of an audience of 60 million people and resurrected the, he said white supremacists are fine people, very fine people in Charlottesville.
	Lie.
	She resurrected the, he's promising a bloodbath if he doesn't win.
	Lie.
	No fact check by ABC, but all of this sprinkled into the national conversation.
	Bloodbath.
	He loves white supremacists.
	He's Adolf Hitler.
	And they want to compare that soundbite I just ran of Trump, of him saying, if somebody comes with tomatoes to throw at me during this rally in 2016, punch him in the face.
	They want to compare that to this, which is just a patent absurdity.
	Let me move on because there's so much I want to get to and I don't have that much time with you.
	The Secret Service.
	You would have thought that the Secret Service had a perfect day on Sunday, that they heard this guy talking about showing up at Trump's golf course to do this and they got him sitting in his apartment still unarmed.
	As we all know, that's not what happened.
	The acting Secret Service director, Ronald Rowe, is the guy who's very worried about the Secret Service agents wearing red ties, as we know from Dan Bongino's congressional testimony.
	That's what he's been focused on.
	And this guy gets up there yesterday and defended, I mean, entirely, the actions of the Secret Service.
	Here's a bit of it sought for.
	The subject who did not have line of sight to the former president fled the scene.
	He did not fire.
	The protective methodologies of the Secret Service were effective yesterday.
	And the agent's hypervigilance and the detailed swift action was textbook.
	The president is aware that he has highest levels of protection that the Secret Service is providing.
	Again, what I go back to is yesterday was an off-the-record movement, off the record.
Secret Service Security Failures 00:03:05
	And the president wasn't even really supposed to go there.
	It was not on his official schedule.
	And so we put together a security plan and that security plan worked.
	We have done more with less for decades.
	And they are rising to this moment and they are meeting the challenges right now.
	The security plan works.
	Unbelievable.
	Sorry, it's just, I watched that live and I was chucking stuff at my television.
	I was like, are you guys completely and utterly deluded?
	You're on a victory lap after Donald Trump came for the second time perilously close to being assassinated because you lot dropped the ball.
	Let's be clear what the Secret Service actually admitted to yesterday.
	They never checked the perimeter of that golf course.
	Yet Donald Trump, when he's back home at Mer-a-Lago, plays there most weekends, that course.
	And secondly, Megan, where did the shooter choose to hide?
	He hid in the corner of the course around the sixth hole, the fourth, fifth, sixth, all run concurrently around together.
	And I'm a golfer.
	I played this morning.
	I understand the layout of golf courses.
	He chose a corner accessible from a public road, which is deliberately used by the media when they want to get a photograph, ironically, a clean shot with their camera of Donald Trump playing golf.
	It's where you guests get the best opportunity for a good photograph of Trump.
	So this guy probably knew that because he probably looked at pictures taken of Trump on that course and realized they were all taken pretty much from that corner.
	And that's where he went and hid.
	And my question for the Secret Service is this.
	Two months after you nearly lost Donald Trump to an assassin's bullet, if he decides to go off the record and wants to suddenly have a round of golf at his own golf course in his own name at a place he plays at with almost weekly regularity.
	The very least I expect you to do before he steps foot on that golf course is check the perimeter.
	I don't think that's too much to ask.
	That the Secret Service, you have one job, which is to protect the President of the United States, the Vice President and other dignitaries, but primarily the president or people who've served in that office, that they check the perimeter of the golf course.
	This guy was sat there for 12 hours.
	They never bothered to check.
	I'm amazed that the current director who stepped in because the last one had to resign hasn't also resigned.
	And if I was Donald Trump, I'd be absolutely incandescent.
	I would demand publicly that he go because clearly he has failed again to protect Trump.
	Again, this one agent happened to see the barrel of a rifle.
	Good on him.
	Brilliant work by the agent.
	But if he hadn't seen that barrel poking out of that bush, then the abject failure of the Secret Service to properly, properly go around the perimeter and check nobody was there and to continue monitoring it while Trump was exposed for hours on that golf course, then that is a failure by the Secret Service.
	So yes, the agent deserves the world.
Gun Control Debate Fallout 00:13:03
	But oh my God, can you imagine?
	And can you imagine the reaction from Republicans and people that support Donald Trump if after all the promises that were made after the rally shooting, it turned out that they had literally not even bothered to check the perimeter of a golf course where he plays all the time.
	So there's no secret that that's where Trump may be on any given weekend when he's in Florida.
	That's what he does.
	I just found it absolutely breathtaking.
	This is not a spike the ball in the end zone moment for the Secret Service.
	And they should be ashamed that this guy got within 300 yards of Trump with a loaded rifle again.
	Next up.
	Okay, there's so much to go over.
	We've got to spend a minute on the Kamala Harris interview that hit in Philadelphia local TV over the weekend.
	Yesterday was so busy with assassination news, we did not get to this, but this must be gotten to.
	I regret to inform you that the possible next president of the United States on the Democratic ticket is an idiot.
	She's a moron.
	I'm sorry.
	There's really no other way of putting it.
	I love her new bout of self-confidence that she actually thinks she did so well in that debate that she should put herself out.
	Go for it.
	Because she's doing something with the National Association of Black Journalists today.
	She's doing something with Oprah Winfrey on Thursday.
	You go, girl.
	Get out there.
	Let's hear more from you.
	Because this is how it went.
	We should point out, yet again, it's ABC, ABC Local.
	And they did about as good a job as ABC National in asking her tough questions and follow-ups.
	So we'll get, we'll get, let's just start with the beginning where he asks her again, just the no-brainer question about the economy.
	His specific in is how are you going to bring down prices?
	It doesn't matter.
	What you hear as the subject is economy.
	You have your answer on the economy ready to go.
	People want to hear a specific plan.
	How are you going to help them?
	This is how it went, SAT 21.
	You talked about creating an opportunity economy.
	I wonder if we could drill down on that a little bit.
	When we talk about bringing down prices and making life more affordable for people, what are one or two specific things you have in mind for that?
	Well, I'll start with this.
	I grew up a middle-class kid.
	My mother raised my sister and me.
	She worked very hard.
	in a neighborhood of folks who are very proud of their lawn.
	You know?
	Oh my God.
	And I was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity and that we as Americans have a beautiful character.
	So when I talk about building an opportunity economy, it is very much with the mind of investing in the ambitions and aspirations and the incredible work ethic of the American people and creating opportunity for people, for example, to start a small business.
	My mother, you know, worked long hours and our neighbor helped raise us.
	She was a small business owner.
	I love our small business owners.
	Our small businesses are so much a part of the fabric of our communities, not to mention really, I think, the backbone of America's economy.
	Piers.
	What did we just listen to?
	It's just word salad gibberish.
	It's gibberish.
	It's word salad gibberish.
	But that's where I would criticize Donald Trump for what happened in that debate, because he should have been able to pick off Carmela Harris comfortably.
	He's one of the great debaters I've ever seen.
	But he fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book.
	She played to his ego, to his narcissistic streak, and she wound him up.
	She laid the debate like an expert angler.
	And unfortunately for him, he fell for it.
	Had he just let her speak and try and explain what her policies are, what she would do for the economy, etc.
	What would she do for people who have pride in their lawns, whatever that means?
	If she'd just let her speak, she would have hung herself with her word salad answers.
	Because Carmela Harris, as we know from before she got suddenly deified as the second coming, as we know before, was a very unpopular, unsuccessful vice president who is jointly responsible for everything that Joe Biden did, not least crashing the economy and soaring inflation and so on.
	But also to go further back, when she tried to run before to be Democrat nominee, they didn't want to know because they know she just talks in this word salad nonsense way and has no actual substance to what she says about what she would do to give this aspirational American the opportunity she says she wants them to have.
	How's she going to do it?
	That's right.
	And if she is all the answers, why hasn't she given it to them in the last three and a half years?
	Right, right.
	My husband, Doug, was saying what Trump should have done at that debate was say, she didn't answer the question.
	Listen every answer of this debate for her to dodge on the economy.
	She has no plan.
	She didn't answer because she has no plan.
	If he could have just kept saying that and pointing out she goes to word salad and her middle class background, which is fake, because she doesn't have a plan, she doesn't.
	The only thing she said is the $6,000 child tax credit.
	JD Vance wants $5,000, by the way.
	Not that material of a difference.
	And she's got some $25,000 help for first-time homebuyers that is flawed for a whole bunch of other reasons.
	But that's really what she's proposing.
	Those two things.
	She says she's going to help small businesses.
	We don't know how.
	Here was the other thing.
	She's on record, of course, as supporting a ban on fracking.
	She's never actually reversed it.
	She claimed to Dan Abash that she had.
	She hadn't.
	All she'd done was in that 2020 VP debate say that Joe Biden wouldn't ban it because he had won the contest and he was at the top of the ticket.
	We're in Pennsylvania.
	Does this reporter follow up and say, Madam Vice President, for once and for all, you didn't actually ever reverse your stance on banning fracking.
	Will you do so now?
	And ask her about the flip-flop.
	Nope.
	No.
	Instead, he goes to guns.
	Oh, you said something.
	Listen to this anodyne, empty question on guns.
	The question should have been, you're also on camera saying you want to ban guns and would implement a mandatory buyback program.
	That's what you said, mandatory buyback program.
	Do you stand by that?
	Watch how this went.
	I think you actually probably caught a lot of people off guard, maybe a bit by surprise in the debate the other night when you mentioned that you were a gun owner.
	I know you said it in 2019 as well.
	I want to talk about your values on this issue.
	When it comes to gun ownership, where do you draw the line in America on gun ownership and gun use?
	Well, like you said, Brian, I am a gun owner and Tim Walz, my running mate, is also a gun owner.
	We're not taking anybody's guns away.
	I feel very strongly that it is consistent with the Second Amendment and your right to own a gun to also say we need an assault weapons ban.
	Okay.
	So we don't get her pressed on the gun on the mandatory buyback.
	That's completely memory hold because yet again, this ABC reporter, Brian Taft is his name, decides to run cover instead of do his job.
	Yeah, I think the same thing happened to the debate.
	I mean, Trump was constantly fact changed and that's fine, but you've got to be equal in the way that you do that.
	And Kamala Harris, as you said, the bloodbath comment alone was such a disingenuous thing to say.
	They all know the Democrats, what Trump meant.
	He was talking about the car industry and the damaging impact of that.
	That was the context of that word blood bus.
	And yet now we have them trying to make out he wants literally a blood bus.
	And they know that's a lie.
	And yet they weren't challenged.
	So my argument about the way they moderated that debate was if you're going to keep fact checking Trump, you have to do it to Kamala Harris too.
	And they didn't.
	You know, Piers, I don't think that last part of that answer about her wanting the assault weapons ban was even aired.
	They put the full interview on their website, but they only aired clips of it on their actual TV program.
	And I think they pulled that piece out.
	They pulled a bunch out that made her look even more rambling.
	If you watch the full 11 minutes, Trump has released it saying our latest campaign ad, it's that bad.
	But ABC tried to clean it up for her and make her look better than she is.
	And here's the last Kamala Harris sound I want to play for you.
	I can't get over it.
	It's everything we know about Kamala Harris.
	Empty.
	What we've been talking on the show about how she says absolutely nothing in so many words.
	Like a reporter shouted out to her when she was walking up the stairs of the plane.
	What's next, Madam Vice President?
	And she was like, what's next is I'm going to walk up these stairs and get on this plane.
	That's how she thinks.
	She's entirely smallball.
	She is not a deep thinker at all.
	And we have yet another example of that from Pennsylvania last weekend.
	Watch this.
	How are you feeling about Pennsylvania?
	I am feeling very good about Pennsylvania because there are a lot of people in Pennsylvania who deserve to be seen and heard.
	That's why I'm here in Johnstown.
	And I will be continuing to travel around the state.
	Pierce.
	What does that mean?
	It doesn't mean anything.
	This is what I mean about it.
	It's just the words that were said to her.
	Right, but the problem that Donald Trump will have is time is running out.
	If I'm Carmela Harris, I don't want to do another debate.
	If I'm Trump, I'd be desperate to do that.
	He says he doesn't, but I would be desperate to get back on stage and do what he should have done the first time, which is let her hang herself with this word salad.
	Let her talk.
	Trump spoke for six more minutes than Carmela Harris in that last debate.
	Part of that was down to the fact-checking going on, but part of it was also him continuing to just keep talking when actually the more she talks, the fewer votes she's going to get.
	I genuinely believe that.
	And she will now give very few interviews.
	She must know how these interviews are playing out.
	They're getting clipped to pieces and people are like, what?
	What did she just say?
	So I just think that Trump has to let Carmela Harris talk, be exposed to the media, tell us what her real policies are, because as you said, there is very little meat on the bone here in terms of actual substance to what she says.
	All right, last but not least, P. Diddy has been indicted.
	He is in custody, in federal custody now, following that very public raid on his home back in March, six months later.
	He's in federal custody.
	He is charged with creating a criminal enterprise, among many other things, sex trafficking, multiple acts, including kidnapping, arson, bribery, forced labor, prostitution, illegal sexual activities, possession with intent to distribute.
	I could go on.
	What do you make of that?
	Well, unbelievably serious charges, if even half of that is true, I doubt we're seeing him come out of prison.
	Obviously, he vehemently denies it all.
	But what I would say about P. Diddy is we all saw that video that came out a few months ago of the appalling violence he was wreaking on a girlfriend.
	And I just found that disgusting.
	And that's just something that came out, which is probably not even related to these specific charges.
	A man that's capable of that is pretty well capable of anything.
	So, you know, I always believe in these cases.
	Let's wait for the, let's wait for the court case.
	Let the evidence be put forward.
	Let him have his defense.
	Let justice play its way out of this.
	But I would be very, very surprised, given what we've already seen about P. Diddy, if a lot of this is not true and if he's not going to prison for a very long time.
	It is part of the case that that moment they mention it in the indictment, which was just on COVID within the last hour, among other acts of alleged violence.
	I mean, that one's not alleged.
	We know he did it, saying this is a pattern and she wasn't his only victim and that what he would do is get these people very, very drugged and have these weekend long, forcible sex sessions with male sex workers where he kept the women completely out of their minds and that he would threaten them if they went to the police or if they complained.
	It happened over and over.
	And I think one of the main questions people are going to be asking after, did he do it and can they prove it is who knew?
	Who else knew?
	Because he was a very and is popular man in music and Hollywood circles.
	And the odds of none of those people knowing he was like this, Piers, are very, very slim.
	It will be like Harvey Weinstein, where they all go, I didn't know anything about any of this.
	All of them, all the Hollywood crowd that hung around Harvey Weinstein for 30, 40 years, and we're supposed to believe none of them had an inkling, a clue about what he was really like.
	We'll hear the same with Diddy.
ABC News Whistleblower Claims 00:10:56
	You watch.
	Exactly.
	It's like an Epstein thing too.
	Weinstein, Epstein.
	And we'll see what his defense will be.
	He's got the same defense lawyer who represented the guy from that Nexium cult up in my hometown of Albany, New York.
	It didn't go well for him.
	Keith Ranieri, he's been convicted and is in jail right now.
	Piers Morgan, always a pleasure, my friend.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Megan, always love doing it.
	Thank you very much, indeed, for having me.
	All right, and we'll be right back with Ayan Hirsi Ali, who's got some thoughts on what's being said about Haitian migrants in Ohio.
	And for that matter, the effect of migration and immigration on the United States writ large.
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	I'm going to bring on Ayan in one second, but first I want to bring you an update in this ABC News alleged whistleblower story that we brought to you yesterday.
	There have been some developments.
	ABC News did respond late yesterday, and the response is somewhat stunning.
	Just to refresh those of you who didn't listen yesterday, and you really should just listen every day because your life will be better and you'll be more informed.
	This person purporting to be a news, a whistleblower from ABC News came forward with an affidavit that was released, as far as I can see, exclusively to someone on X who goes by the name Black Insurrectionist.
	He hasn't been on X that long.
	He has some 100,000 followers.
	He's gained 30,000 followers over the past week as he's been teasing this.
	So many of us thought this could be what we call engagement farming, you know, trying to just jack up your followers.
	But he did indeed produce the affidavit he had been promising on Sunday.
	This alleged whistleblower says in a, what he purports to have here as a sworn affidavit signed under penalties of perjury and allegedly notarized by a notary public that ABC News coordinated with the Kamala Harris campaign in advance of the presidential debate to rig the debate in her favor.
	He has minor allegations like they gave her a smaller podium that we know did happen, but he claims this affidavit was signed on September 9th, the day before the debate.
	So, and that it was notarized and so on that he's going to be able to prove and that he sent a certified copy of this whole thing to Speaker Mike Johnson via certified mail.
	We asked his office if they have it.
	No response yet.
	In any event, so he wouldn't have known that if it really was something that was legitimately sent on September 9th from watching the debate.
	All right, so says the thing about the podium.
	He says she negotiated to look a certain way on the split screens.
	He says that ABC News agreed to fact check Trump only and not her.
	He says that they provided sample questions, not the exact questions he alleges, but sample questions covering similar topics that would appear during the debate.
	He says that they had agreed certain topics would be off limits, including the perceived health of Joe Biden, her tenure as attorney general, and her brother-in-law, Tony West, who used to work at DOJ and is accused of settling cases at very large numbers when the plaintiffs were Democrat operatives or anyone he thought he wanted to or could curry favor with.
	That's a short form description of all that.
	He talks about the observed bias against Trump within ABC.
	And then he says in this affidavit, I have secretly recorded several conversations that will prove the Harris campaign insisted upon not only the fact-checking of Donald Trump, but also insisted on what questions were not to be asked under any circumstances or else the Harris campaign would decline to participate in the debate.
	All right.
	This is all there.
	Do not know we went through some of the questions about the affidavit.
	It's not the most beautiful document I've ever seen.
	A lot of not grammatical errors, actually.
	There aren't any, there's no spelling errors, but there are grammatical errors in it.
	And then there's a notary public seal or sign without the seal, but black insurrectionist says he's redacted the seal and a notary public seal does reveal the identity of the notary.
	So it would make sense if you're trying to maintain anonymity all around that you might do that.
	Okay, so we don't know.
	We don't know whether this is real or not real, but we are open-minded to it and we are trying to report on the story.
	Well, not surprisingly, those who are covering it in the media are dumping on it, laughing at it.
	We'll find out whether it deserved to be laughed at.
	But ABC News finally responded.
	They finally responded.
	Kamala Harris has not responded.
	And this is what they said.
	They gave a statement to the Daily Beast.
	Quote, ABC News followed the debate rules that both campaigns agreed on and which clearly state no topics or questions will be shared in advance with campaigns or candidates.
	That's it.
	We followed the rules, which state no topics or debate questions will be shared in advance.
	What?
	Did you have private negotiations with Kamala Harris and her campaign?
	Did you agree that you would have a special look on stage from the podium to the split screen situation?
	Did you agree that you wouldn't ask about Tony West, about her tenure as AG, about President Biden's mental fitness and her role in covering it up?
	Did you agree to any of that?
	Do you deny that there could possibly be tapes of an executive or someone at ABC News reiterating that promise or making it in the first instance?
	This is so generic and empty as to cause more concerns than we had yesterday.
	It is not a denial that sounds like a truth-telling denial.
	If you, I've anchored many presidential debates, as you know, if you ever accused me of any of this, what I would say is I can categorically deny that we did any of this.
	Now, I'd have to look at the executives at Fox News for behind the scenes negotiations with the campaigns because we as anchors didn't do that.
	But they'd have to tell me as the anchor, if I wasn't allowed to ask certain questions, I'd have to share with them my specific questions so that they could be forwarded on, right?
	The sample questions.
	So I'd know at least that that had happened.
	I mean, I could honestly say back in that 2016 debate or 15 debate that's so famous now between Trump and the others and yours truly and Brett and Chris, I kept my questions like this.
	I mean, Roger Nells never saw them.
	He was very angry with me after that debate because he never saw the questions and he was pissed off.
	In any event, this is a non-denial denial.
	So I have more questions today than I did yesterday.
	And this cannot, it cannot be left at this.
	Bill Ackman now, billionaire investor and successful businessman, has not only brought this to Bob Iger saying, you need to respond, but he's saying I'm going to have to bring this to the SEC.
	There may be a question of corporate governance here.
	What ethical rules, if any, were crossed?
	Maybe none.
	Maybe the whole thing is bullshit and we are falling for some hoax by the Russians, by whoever called in the bomb threats.
	No clue.
	But I will tell you, having gone back through the affidavit again, there are some things that are weird.
	Why does he say I live in Manhattan, New York?
	That's not really how we refer to ourselves when we live in Manhattan, which I did for 17 years.
	But it could just be a way of saying I'm in the borough of Manhattan where ABC is.
	Twice he says ABC News lowercase news.
	Once he says AB News capitalized, people are batting on him for that.
	Okay.
	And but then he goes on to say, the Harris campaign received these particular accommodations, a podium that would be smaller, assurances regarding split screen television views that would favorably impact Kamala Harris's appearance relative to Donald Trump.
	To me, like that does not sound like some Russian troll.
	Like that actually to me does sound like something a campaign might ask for.
	I don't know what the specific act, there could be a version of that that's okay.
	You know, like how are you going to have her on camera when he's talking?
	That might be something a campaign would ask.
	So this could be benign or it could be not benign, but that doesn't sound like trolling to me from some hoaxer.
	And then he goes on to talk about how they spoke with the Harris campaign without Trump present or Trump campaign present.
	And he writes, to my understanding, any rules, negotiations, and conversations pertaining to the debate should have had both the Trump and Harris campaigns involved.
	The Harris campaign had numerous, numerous more calls, once again, grammatical stuff, regarding the debate rules without the Trump campaign aware or on the call.
	That, again, is something that sounds to me like it is potentially from a TV insider who understands the normal protocols and ethical boundaries when dealing with two sides in a presidential debate.
	We don't know.
	The person says they've been working in tech and administrative roles for ABC for over 10 years.
	This affidavit, as I said yesterday, if any portion of it is true, is very damning.
	And this denial from ABC followed the debate rules.
	No topics or questions would be shared in advance.
	Those were the rules.
	Does not get it done.
	So this scandal has officially grown today.
	And ABC, Kamala Harris, and yes, Speaker Johnson must speak out.
	Okay.
	I've got a little time to bring in Ayan, which I'll do.
	And then we'll continue her on the other side of our break, which SiriusXM has at 1251.
	Okay.
	Ayan Hersey Ali is here to talk about what's happening in Springfield, Ohio, and the latest as the corporate media continues their absolutely awful reporting.
	Ayan's a fellow at the Hoover Institution and founder of the Ayan Hersey Ali Foundation.
	Ayan, welcome back.
	Great to have you.
Springfield Ohio Resettlement Issues 00:14:59
	Can I just ask you for your overall take on what you're seeing with this media trying to run cover for what's happened, what's actually happening to the residents of Springfield?
	So it's a media machine.
	It's a democratic machine.
	We don't really have a media anymore.
	I think that the institutionalized media is part of the Democratic Party propaganda machine.
	And what they're trying to do is protect their candidate.
	And their candidate is very weak.
	And that's why I think someone remarked yesterday on saying, Donald Trump has had more assassination attempts than she has given interviews.
	Not funny, but I think that's what's going on.
	And what Springfield, Ohio has done is I think it's opened up this big Pandora's box on the issue of immigration.
	And it's not just in immigration in America, but on the entire Western societies.
	You see a small town of nearly 60,000 people.
	People with all sorts of challenges, no jobs, there are opioid challenges.
	It's a poor town in Middle America, and they've brought in about 20,000 Haitians.
	And the first question that comes to my mind is, Springfield, Ohio is not on the border.
	How did these people make their way to Ohio?
	And that then leads me to ask the questions of what is going on with the within the Department of Homeland Security, but also the Department of State, which is to abuse, in my view, the asylum rules and the asylum laws where this ideology they call social justice ideology, but really it is communism on steroids, is to bring masses and masses of people from poor countries to so-called rich countries.
	But these people that are like the Haitians, they're not being resettled in the zip code where John Legend lives.
	They're not being resettled in Martha's Vineyard.
	I mean, there was a time when I think it was the governor of Florida who tried to, you know, take the immigrants to the sanctuary cities, and these rich communities quickly evicted them.
	Martha's Vineyard.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It was Martha's Vineyard, yeah.
	So what you have is really taking, this is playing with human life.
	In my view, it's criminal.
	It's incentivizing poor people in poor countries and getting them to come here or transporting them somehow and then resettling them in poor communities in America.
	And you see this also happening in Europe.
	But to stick with America, I think that this is the story that no one wants to talk about.
	This is the Biden-Harris immigration policy.
	It's leaving the border wide open and it is abusing the asylum system to bring in lots of people using NGOs, non-governmental organizations and other tools to transport, relocate people who are culturally different, who are very poor, and bringing them into these into poor towns all across America.
	So you've been reading about Springfield, Ohio, but then there's also Jason, Ohio.
	It's all of it's all over America.
	And some people say they're doing this so that they can get more votes.
	There's something in there, but they're also doing it, I think, for ideological reasons.
	I think when they tell us that they want immigration justice, what they mean is exactly what you're seeing in Springfield, Ohio.
	They want to transform the populations of the West to achieve their ideological fantasy of equality.
	That is, instead of developing the country, poor countries, so that poor countries can adopt good governance policies, they are basically want poor people from poor countries to come to rich countries.
	It's a form of redistribution.
	And that is what we're not talking about.
	And these are the policies of the Biden-Harris government.
	And this is what should have been talked of.
	They are talking about cats and dogs and, you know, all sorts of, in my view, totally relevant issues.
	But if you are Kamala Harris and you really say in this wild salad that you care about middle-class people, then why bring 20,000 very poor people to a very poor community like the one in Springfield, Ohio?
	That's what she needs to be questioned on.
	We've just gotten the new and latest numbers on the number of these so-called legal migrants who have come to this country under Biden-Harris, thanks to Bill Melujin of Fox News.
	They're stunning.
	I'll get into that next with Ayan Hirsi Ali, who stays with me.
	Don't go away.
	Back with me now, Ayan Hirsi Ali, fellow at the Hoover Institution and founder of the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Foundation.
	So Ayan, to put some meat on the bones of the numbers, Bill Malujin of Fox News releasing a post either today or last night that reveals as follows.
	Per newly released Border Patrol data, nearly 530,000 migrants have flown into the U.S. and have been paroled, meaning been released into the U.S. as part of the Biden administration's controversial mass parole program.
	Another 813,000 migrants are scheduled to be released into the U.S.
	They have appointments right now under this same program.
	And he points out that Border Patrol, that ICE, does not have the manpower or resources to find and deport such a large population of people because they're supposed to be paroled or released into the U.S. on two-year humanitarian parole grants.
	And then they're supposed to have a hearing and we decide whether they can stay.
	But we usually say they can't stay and then we're supposed to deport them.
	And what he's reporting is we don't have the manpower for that.
	Bill reports that each ICE officer currently manages an average of 7,000 cases.
	7,000.
	They do not have the bodies to track and remove this additional population.
	Right now, they're overwhelmed trying to track down the aggravated felons and so on who sneaked into the country illegally.
	These are so-called legal migrants that we're talking about in Springfield, but they're posing a massive problem.
	And you've been comparing this in every way you know how.
	I mean, you're one of our first guests on the podcast raising concerns about what's happening in France from this so-called legal migration that they're having there.
	You've been comparing what's happening in Ohio and elsewhere to what's happening in Europe.
	Exactly right.
	So what you just, the numbers you heard to me and the inability for ICE to do anything about it is the emasculation of ICE.
	Resources are reallocated away from ICE.
	That's power and money taken away from ICE.
	And ICE's job is to keep immigrants out and bring in legal.
	I mean, if you come through the legal procedure, then that's a completely different story.
	But what's happening, this is an abuse of the asylum system.
	In 1951, the Geneva Convention was about taking people who were trapped behind the iron curtain and bringing them into the West.
	And we were talking about really small numbers.
	What happened, at least since I know of the 1990s and beyond, is large numbers of people either come asking for asylum or they're relocated.
	It's called a resettlement process.
	But what you're seeing in America is the abuse of this resettlement process by ideological thugs, in my view, who are abusing the system to bring large numbers of people and dump them in poor communities and among poor communities in America.
	And there is no congressional inquiry.
	It's the Congress that's supposed to have oversight over these departments.
	It's the Department of Homeland.
	It's the Department of State.
	And it is this wild growth of so-called NGOs, non-governmental organizations and other agencies that are, in their view, acting on what they call immigration justice, but justice for home exactly.
	They're basically taking poor people from one country and imposing it on poor people on another country.
	And these people, aside from the material poverty, there are also radical cultural differences.
	You can't just expect to have 30,000 Haitians settle in Springfield, Ohio, and see Kumbaya, People celebrating the same whatever.
	That's not what's going to happen.
	These people have only because they've come to America.
	They haven't shared their ways, ways of doing things.
	If voodoo is a religion and they practice that, that's very important to them.
	And then you have the local people saying, oh my gosh, we are horrified by some of these um things.
	But then you go to the material things.
	The inhabitants of Springfield Ohio, are told there are no resources for you, no housing for you, no medical care for you.
	I watched one of these people who is a veteran, who said he was on this one long wait list for Medicare but he's not getting it because.
	And then he looks at the Haitians and he says well, they've got houses, they've got driver's license, they've got cars they can't drive.
	And you're basically uh yeah, setting.
	You're mining racism in my.
	In my view, this is a mining of racism because these poor local people are going to react with resentment um, and I would say justifiably so, because their own needs are not met and they're bringing people in from outside whose needs seem to be met.
	You create resentment, you create um yeah, and then sometimes this is going to be a long skin.
	You know, I don't think the people of Ohio are racist, but I think they're being driven to a place where they can be called racists, and this media in America, but also on uh, the western side.
	The only way they could shut up the working class communities and make them accept these large numbers of immigrants was to call them racist, to call them xenophobic.
	And these people are not xenophobes, they're not racist.
	They just can't meet their own.
	You know they can't, they're not being taken care of by their own governments, and so this is really a focus on the voodoo front.
	They they, they say that this is practiced by a fair number of Haitians.
	I uh i've got to check my numbers, but I think it was at least half and um that there is a practice within voodoo, not for nothing but of animal sacrifice, and to me, if that's a cultural norm and if that has been brought to a place like Springfield that, among many other behaviors, would be found downright shocking.
	I was thinking about it.
	It's like what if you took Bianca Sensori, Kanye West's latest wife, and dropped her in the middle of Saudi Arabia in her little outfits that come, that are comprised of pantyhose and a throw pillow?
	I mean it would be shocking, it would be offensive.
	No one would want 20 000 women like that being, you know, helicoptered into Saudi Arabia.
	It would be deeply offensive and upsetting.
	It's just.
	We all have very different cultures and there's not a thought given to that, and nor Ayan do is there reason to believe the Haitians want to assimilate to American customs.
	The Haitians have been lied to.
	They've been told.
	You know, you're going to get a chance and build an opportunity in a place that's going to be accepting and welcoming, and so on and so forth.
	They've been lied to.
	And the inhabitants of Spring, the residents of Springfield Ohio, have also been lied to.
	They haven't been told about the different culture.
	They haven't been told about the voodoo.
	They haven't been told about you know the scale of the number of people that were going to be resettled there.
	They haven't been told that they're going to be displaced.
	So this is really playing with human life.
	This is ideologically driven and these ideologues have seized power in parts of the United States government using and abusing the laws of asylum and refugees.
	And this is how it's being used.
	I think what we need right now is a review of this 1951 Geneva Convention.
	Does it work in the 21st century?
	This is the question that Europeans are asking themselves.
	Europeans are confronted with people who, for instance, they come from Muslim countries and they want to implement Sharia law in France, in Germany, in the UK.
	You have all of these confrontations.
	It never gets better because the numbers of people who come in, they never get a chance to assimilate.
	There are no assimilation programs.
	And it's just the sheer scale of the problem.
	And they keep bringing more and more people in, either through people who show up at the border and they're allowed in on, you know, we can't turn them away because this is according to the asylum law, or as in America, through the resettlement programs.
	And this is just not going to work out.
	And I really thank you for calling out people like John Legend, where you get all of these celebrities who get themselves involved in controversial topics they know nothing about.
	Oh, yeah, come in.
	I grew up in Springfield, Ohio.
	He doesn't live in Springfield, Ohio.
	No, not anymore.
	He's in Beverly Hills now.
	He lives in Beverly Hills.
	It's the people in Beverly Hills, people in the media, people who have nothing to do with the consequences, with the negative unintended consequences.
	The sexual violence, that's a topic on its own.
	It's explosive in Europe at the moment.
	When I came to Europe in 1992, women were moving freely from A to B, any time of day or night with any chosen attire of their own.
	That's all gone now because of bringing men, single men in in large numbers from countries that don't respect women.
	You go on X, and again, thanks to Elon Musk because the media is not reporting this.
	But if you look at the stories that are showing up on X, it's four people.
	There's this woman who's saying, I was sexually assaulted.
	The media doesn't cover that.
	The woman, I mean, Kamala Harris was talking about the lawn, or she said, in her last words, about the lawns.
	But what about the woman in Ohio?
	This guy brings a huge mattress and drops it on her lawn.
	What about that?
	So someone needs to be held accountable.
	These are policies by the Biden-Harris administration.
	We should be talking about them all the way to November 5th.
	This is what they have done.
	They've created these chaos and they need to be held accountable.
Bathroom Gender Policy Backlash 00:07:40
	And I think they get away with it because, yeah, unfortunately, in that debate, they started talking about cats and dogs.
	But I'm fine with talking about the cats and dogs if it's going to lead us to the actual problem.
	Me too.
	I want to tell people that they can find Ayan's writing and it's well worth your time at restorationbulletin.com.
	That's where she posts her stuff now.
	And she's, as you can tell, absolutely brilliant.
	Do you have another minute or do you have to run, Ayan, because I wanted to ask you about some of the trans insanity?
	I will.
	I have another minute.
	And definitely for that topic, that's massive child abuse.
	Okay, good.
	So here's the way I want to get into it.
	Out in Palo Alto, which I don't have to tell you, having lived out in that region with Stanford, is one of the most liberal, progressive areas in the United States.
	Out in Palo Alto, a big controversy over this has erupted because what's happening is there's an elementary school, Herbert Hoover Elementary, which is being redone.
	The construction is underway right now for a new facility.
	It's set to open this spring.
	And they are going to have only gender neutral bathrooms.
	So what's going to have to happen is the boys and girls are going to go into the same bathroom facility.
	They'll be in stalls right next to each other.
	And then they'll come out and wash their hands at the same sinks.
	Just like Sirius LA, by the way.
	I love you, Sirius XM, but you need to stop that.
	And, but these are elementary kids.
	And amazingly, Ayan, they showed up at a school board meeting and they were mad.
	Listen to this little girl.
	She's in third grade.
	I'm a third grader at Herbert Hoover Elementary School.
	And I do not like that we have to share a bathroom with boys.
	At Hoover, a boy has punched me in the stomach and spit on me.
	I really do not feel comfortable in an all-gender restroom.
	When I come to the bathroom, I do not like that there is pee on the seats and toilet paper on the ground.
	It feels very uncomfortable.
	I was at Hoover in previous years on the seats and no toilet paper on the ground.
	It was cleaner and more sanitary.
	My friends and I do not like that there are boys in the bathroom.
	Some of my friends and I try not to go to the bathroom when they have to.
	There should be girls, boys, and all gender restrooms.
	Ask that staff will make sure that the bathrooms are clean in the new construction.
	And I'm sure staff will make sure that there are procedures in place to make sure the bathrooms are clean.
	That's it.
	The response is, oh, we'll try to clean them up.
	But they are not bowed by this little girl's testimonial, Ayan.
	No, it's outrageous.
	And this is the state of California.
	They have these crazy social re-engineering ideology where they want this to go on and they are going to deprive girls and women from all the rights that we fought for for such a long time.
	They're mutilating children.
	They want to do this behind the parents' back.
	And this is what I was thinking when I was looking at the Haiti thing.
	And people were getting upset by what was being done to cats and dogs.
	And I think that's the right impulse.
	Because in our society, we no longer get upset about the disfigurement and the deformation of children.
	I remember when I first started talking about female genital mutilation, all my Western audiences would tightly put their legs together and say, no, you don't do things like that.
	It's horrible.
	And the whole idea was, how can we get these immigrants to stop doing that?
	It's a horrible practice.
	And now, what?
	Less than 30 years on, we are doing it in the name of pseudoscience.
	We're listening to, this is an ideology and it's these young children are being deformed and it's happening on our watch.
	It's one of the most horrible developments that I can talk about that I can think.
	And it's across the spectrum, right?
	This is that what's happening in the bathroom situation is on, you know, with all due respect, the lighter end of the scale.
	Genital mutilation of our young children is on the opposite end of the scale.
	But that's not to diminish what's happening to these children.
	And in many ways, it's a gateway into accepting the whole line of radical gender ideology.
	Because once you get inured to it, it's fine to share the bathroom spaces with the boys.
	Gender is not a thing.
	You are on the pathway that these progressive leftists want you to be on.
	We had Kelly J. Keene on the show last week, who's an activist in this space.
	And one of the things she was saying was, when you have the gender neutral and there's no single sex option available, what happens in schools is the little girls just hold it.
	They hold it all day, which can be unsafe.
	It can be unsanitary.
	It's not good for a little girl to do that.
	And sure enough, what did we hear in progressive Palo Alto?
	But listen to this, a fifth grader and a couple moms here.
	Watch.
	I'm a fifth grader at Herbert Hoover Elementary School.
	I don't like that we only have gender nature restrooms.
	At Old Hoover, we had separate restrooms and they were clean and comfortable.
	Everyone was okay with the system there.
	At Grendell, many other students feel uncomfortable going too.
	I've heard from some students that they try to avoid going when they need to, which isn't good for you.
	You shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable every time you need to use the restroom.
	I was made aware that she holds on and doesn't want to go to the bathroom because it's dirty and she often has to, you know, clean it and that just feels very gross to her.
	So I think the pledge is just going to be that if they can have girls' bathroom, boys' bathroom, and an all-gender solution.
	I am here because my daughters who spoke strongly prefer girls' restrooms.
	These children have a right to comfort, privacy, health, gender expression, and cultural and religious expression.
	Children's perspective is completely missing here and their rights are not being upheld.
	We're all aligned.
	We want to ensure this inclusivity of all groups.
	Why must we add friction into specific child's day-to-day for this?
	Why must we hurt their education?
	You know, Ayan, as I watch this, my own reaction is, you know, with respect to the girls, I'm glad this is happening because these progressive moms in California are starting to get it.
	The progressive moms are starting to get it because of the pain of the children, but the progressive ideology is still there.
	And what happens?
	So you said this was third grade or fourth grade.
	So, you know, one year up, the periods are starting to show up and the bullying and the change of the body.
	And what will girls do?
	So what you see in the developing world is when you make girls uncomfortable and you make school cruel for them, they don't want to go to school.
	So what they're calling progressive is going to have a regressive outcome.
	You're pushing girls not only out of their bathrooms, but you're going to push them out of school altogether.
	That's what is going to happen.
	And then you bring in all the other cultures, the Catholics, the Muslims, religious groups who say they don't want girls and boys to mix.
	And then you're going to have girls-only schools.
	You're going to have, especially with the Muslim communities, their excuse for we don't need to send girls to school to begin with.
Governor Ohio Hoax Allegations 00:05:31
	So this is all going, this is the same.
	The immigration justice is the same as the gender justice and the climate justice.
	It is this elaborate ideology that to the people who hold on to it on university campuses, it sounds very appealing.
	But once you start to translate it into policy, which is what they're doing, they're affronting a lot of people.
	They're causing a lot of pain.
	And really, Megan, there's just no other word for it than that is criminal.
	And it really needs to stop.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for speaking out.
	Again, I want to tell everybody, go to restorationbulletin.com to read Ayan's latest piece, What the Springfield Cat Controversy Exposes About Immigration.
	Always worth listening to you, Ayan, and reading you as well.
	Thanks so much for being on.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you for doing all the work that you do.
	Good to see you.
	We're so lucky to have you.
	Okay, we're going to take a break.
	But before we do, I just want to add one additional piece to the discussion that we're having on the subject of Springfield, Ohio.
	You've seen, I mean, it is unbelievable the amount of people who continue to blame Trump and JD Vance for these bomb threats that came into these schools and other venues.
	It came out yesterday that it was a foreign country.
	That came out from the governor of Ohio, who made that clear.
	Here he is in SOP 40.
	Pleased 33 separate bomb threats, each one of which has been responded to, and each one of whom has been found as a hoax.
	So 33 threats, 33 hoax.
	I will make that very, very clear.
	None of these had any validity at all.
	We have people, unfortunately, overseas who are taking these actions.
	Some of them are coming from one particular country.
	We think that this is, you know, one more opportunity to mess with the United States, and they're continuing to do that.
	Let me just remind you of that Nora O'Donnell clip that we just played.
	This is her last night.
	Last night, Monday night.
	We knew by then that it was not a local, that it was hoaxes from overseas.
	Listen.
	Donald Trump is blaming Democrats for inflaming political rhetoric, but the former president's own words seem to be increasing the threat of political violence in Springfield, Ohio.
	That's where a false and ugly accusation against Haitians, thousands of whom are legal permanent residents, is impacting everyday life.
	She just goes with it.
	Just double down.
	Didn't happen.
	Didn't hear it.
	No, it's got to be a Trump-inspired loon.
	It's the Proud Boys.
	It's one of those guys for sure.
	I just know it in my heart, notwithstanding what the governor had released.
	We knew this yesterday afternoon.
	And here's Anna Navarro.
	Here she is on the view yesterday before we knew, but she was totally, sorry, she was.
	No, no.
	Okay, sorry.
	This is, yeah, so this, here she is.
	Yes, here she is on CNN this morning after we knew.
	Okay, after we knew.
	Take a listen.
	Donald Trump and JD Vance are not questioning their rhetoric.
	Right now, because of their rhetoric, because of what he said in that debate, there's been 33 bombing threats in Springfield, Ohio that would not have happened but for this false conspiracy theory being spread by the vice presidential and presidential Republican candidate.
	She's on CNN news.
	In news, she should have been fact-checked with that isn't true.
	And she was, she did receive blowback online for saying that after we heard the governor of Ohio say, it isn't true that this was a hoax.
	That's what you heard him.
	That's his word.
	These were hoaxes by people trying to just mess with us.
	This was not inspired by Trump.
	If it was, there's zero evidence of that, Anna.
	Zero.
	What's your proof?
	You're so upset about proof on the cats and dogs.
	I mean, I saw two cats on a barbecue, so there's that.
	But let's put that to the side.
	What's your proof that Donald Trump inspired this as opposed to the town council meeting yesterday last week that person after person showed up to complain at?
	How do you know what the cause is?
	What forensic deconstruction did you do of the hoax calls to get to the bottom of it?
	When Don Jr. online called her out on it, she doubled down.
	There's just no even attempt to stay factual.
	There's none.
	I mean, on this show, we told you we don't know what the truth is about the animals, but we're showing you the evidence that's on the one side.
	And we're telling you about what the city officials are saying on the other side.
	The rest of the media wants to pretend that they have affirmatively settled it and they haven't.
	Just false claims, false claims.
Sniper Attempt Capability Analysis 00:11:24
	And of course, this all belies and undermines the overall issue, which is what the migrants are actually doing to this town, what the residents are actually going through, not just in Springfield, but in towns across this country, because there are over a million of them there or on their way, thanks to this administration.
	Not to mention the deaths caused in Springfield by these migrants and the murders of Americans caused by illegal immigrants who are literally everywhere.
	10.4 million of them plus in the last four years alone.
	Okay, we can take a break.
	We're going to be back with Eric Prince, who's got thoughts on the Trump assassination.
	Very insightful.
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	Donald Trump's not going to make it to Inauguration Day with this current regime in charge of the Secret Service.
	Clearly, their decisions are not working because Donald Trump's almost been killed now twice in two months.
	I mean, when I got on, the line on the poster was in the Secret Service office, was you elect them, we protect them.
	They cannot seem to do this with Donald Trump.
	How much failure are you willing to accept from this entity?
	Ron Rowe has been doing presidential protection since 2006, folks.
	It's 2024.
	He has no excuse.
	He blames the OTR movement.
	How the hell did the alleged shooter here, assassin, then beat you because he seemed to know 12 hours in advance?
	The Palm Beach Trump golf course is really, really close to where they were yesterday at Mar-a-Lago.
	It would have taken 10 minutes to get a bunch of agents over there to do an external sweep of the perimeter.
	You're telling me that the alleged shooter in this case had more intel than the Secret Service?
	That was our friend Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent with some sharp critiques of the Secret Service and in particular, the leadership.
	Welcome back to the Megan Kelly Show.
	Joining me now, Eric Prince, host of Off Leash with Eric Prince, former U.S. Navy SEAL and founder of Blackwater.
	Eric, thanks so much for being here.
	First time we've ever had you on the show and I appreciate it.
	What do you make of Dan's critique?
	Look, he's exactly right.
	And as a former Secret Service agent himself, I'm sure he is rightly horrified that an organization which had a proud track record and credibility is rapidly failing.
	I don't think people realize the cost that if Trump had been killed in Butler, Pennsylvania, or on Sunday, what are the effects, the ripple effects that would have had on American society is really, really frightening.
	And that's their job.
	Now, maybe it's time to split the function so that the Secret Service only focuses on executive protection and not so worried about credit card fraud and counterfeit currency.
	The fact that, you know, Josh, Senator Hawley had the whistleblower memo talking about how the lead agent who was supposed to be protecting him in Butler, Pennsylvania had failed horribly some test, some qualification tests they were supposed to make, and it was waived by the previous director.
	And that the agents supposed to be protecting him in Butler, Pennsylvania had not had any formal executive protection training, but only watched a two-hour video course.
	That is really beyond laughable.
	I can't even imagine it.
	What are the things that you're doing?
	You don't think you could have conducted your duties as a Navy SEAL by watching a two-hour video that showed you how to do it?
	There's a lot of jokes about, you know, the later guys that say, yeah, you must have done the correspondence course.
	But that's just absolutely laughable.
	What it means is these are unserious people put in positions of great seriousness, and they shouldn't be anywhere near any kind of levers of power to make, to send people to do a difficult, dangerous job that has a high consequence of failure.
	The fact that this guy on Sunday had been there for 12 hours in a final firing position, and he put his ballistic panels up against the fence, kind of preparing for counterfire with his GoPro mounted on the fence.
	Why?
	Because that guy was trophy hunting.
	So yes, there's an enormous competency problem, but there's a huge language problem on the left because they have so for so long unleashed every kind of invective and hyperbole saying Trump is Hitler.
	He must be eliminated.
	He is the end of democracy.
	All these things that unlock every left-wing crazy to say, I'm going to self-actualize myself by killing Donald Trump.
	And, you know, they're 0 for 2.
	Imagine if this was actually a professional, a proper attempt at taking out Trump.
	I mean, the fact that the Secret Service agent, the advanced guy who was walking the course only one hole ahead of where Trump was, saw the guy, fired four times, didn't hit him, which is not good.
	But if the guy had been wearing a ghillie, if he'd been wearing a ghillie suit, you know, the old British gamekeepers would wear a ghillie suit to really disguise themselves to hide in the terra.
	A proper sniper would have been successful.
	Fortunately, you know what's crazy is the guy, not only did they miss, but he got away.
	The only way they found him was thanks to this good Samaritan who saw him get into this black Nissan and took a picture with the plates and then was helpfully there to give it to Secret Service.
	But I mean, there is a chance this guy could have gotten away and come back for another shot at it if it hadn't been for this bystander.
	I want to say two things, though.
	One, the staffing problems at the Secret Service.
	Susan Crabtree, who's been doing the best reporting on this for realclearpolitics.com.
	She's a Secret Service correspondent, basically.
	She knows all of the stories.
	She reports that not only are they understaffed on protecting Trump and others, but right now the UN General Assembly is in session and they've got some 600 agents protecting all of these dignitaries from for we've got like a guy on the president of Ghana.
	Like nobody wants to kill the president of Ghana.
	And if they do, shouldn't that be Ghana's problem?
	Right.
	It's not our problem.
	Who cares?
	Yeah, so there's that.
	So that's in terms of manpower.
	But secondly, you raise the perimeter.
	And the now acting head of the Secret Service, Director Ron Rao, spoke to that yesterday.
	He was asked, This is the problem, right?
	It was a perimeter problem in Butler, where they put that building outside of it and it wasn't well looked after by the locals.
	And it was a perimeter problem down in Florida on Sunday.
	So this came up.
	And listen to how this guy answers.
	Soph three: Is there any evidence to suggest that the suspect knew that Donald Trump would be on the golf course at that time?
	And was the golf course searched thoroughly before the four presidents arrived?
	It was an off-the-record movement, meaning it was not on the former president's official schedule.
	You know, there was a front element.
	It did its job in sweeping ahead of the president.
	That's what identified this individual who was in that wood line.
	And the swift action of that agent doing his job, pushing out ahead, sweeping while the president was behind him, several hundred yards and several holes away, out of sight from the gunman, did his job.
	Were there any evidence to suggest that the suspect knew that Donald Trump was going to be on that golf course at that time?
	Based on what I know now, and it's an active investigation, I don't have any information on that.
	How many times did your agents go around the perimeter and scope out the golf course during the 12 hours that this guy was holding up your shoulder?
	So this was an off-the-record movement.
	It wasn't a site that was on his scheduled.
	It wasn't part of his schedule.
	So there was no posting up of it because he wasn't supposed to have gone there in the first place.
	So he didn't answer because it appears to be zero.
	What he seems to be saying is: we didn't know he's going to play golf.
	And when we found out, we did not sweep the perimeter, which we all kind of know because the guy was lying in wait for hours on end and then almost took a shot.
	Yeah, so they had a perimeter problem in Butler.
	140 yards, the guy was lined up.
	In this case, this guy could not have been more than two or maximum 300 yards from where I think the fifth hole was where Trump would have next been.
	That's at best elementary school grade executive protection.
	They should be at minimum 1,000 meters for any kind of line of sight or any kind of proper sniper capability.
	But they're very 20th century in thinking that because with the advent of drone technology, now somebody with a very small payload can fly that drone from 10, 15 kilometers away and put a five-pound weapon on the fifth hole at the putting, you know, right at the putting green long before they could ever respond.
	So they are clearly behind the times.
	They have gone backwards in capability.
	And it's to me, it's a greater, it's a microcosm of the greater federal government problem we have is an enormous amount of federal agencies that are completely out of control and bloated and filled with largely useless people that are actually maligned to any kind of mission for that for that organization instead of actually adding value.
Federal Government Agency Problems 00:15:06
	I had one friend that interacted a lot with the Secret Service in the last few years and said, there's about 10% of the agents are great.
	They are Olympic grade.
	They're trying to carry all the water.
	There's another 40% that are just the absolute mid-grade bureaucrats.
	And the other half are not just useless, they're beyond useless.
	So there's, it's not a matter of just adding people.
	You have to add the right people.
	And I'd say the next director there has to re-screen every person, almost like a reform program, and see what standard they can hit and cut the bottom half and either find them a different job.
	Because remember, all these HSI agents that were assigned in Butler, HSI is really just ICE.
	It's immigration and customs enforcement rebranded because Democrats didn't like how ICE sounded.
	So they renamed them HSI agents.
	But even if there's whole-on Secret Service agents, they should be focused solely on executive protection.
	That's it, not focused on credit cards, currency, and other bank fraud.
	So we are learning more about the attempted shooter here.
	And it's very curious.
	You tell me what you think is really going on here, because now the latest is that he was known to the FBI, that he was reported and the subject of a previously closed 2019 tip to the FBI where it was alleged that he was a felon in possession of a firearm.
	And following up on the tip, the alleged complainant was interviewed and they're saying that he did not, the complainant did not verify providing the initial information.
	So I guess there's some question about whether the informant stuck by the actual allegation.
	And then they said that the FBI passed the info to local law enforcement in Honolulu.
	This guy was on the Feds radar because thanks to some of his overseas work going to Ukraine and trying to get freedom fighters over to Ukraine, he was so nasty and upsetting to people who were over there that they sat with Customs and Border Control and said there was one nurse in particular who said, of all the people I've met over here, you need to watch this guy.
	He's a threat.
	This is not a good guy.
	And he's going to do something to somebody one day.
	So not to mention all of his criminal convictions for having a weapon of mass destruction in 2002 and multiple other convictions that from that point forward, this has many people wondering, what is the likelihood that he's just this rando who is going to take out the president?
	Could it be there are other forces at play here?
	Those are questions that must be answered.
	I've asked people involved in the Afghan evacuations and Ukraine, and some of them had heard of him and found him to be a kind of a wild loser looking for a mission.
	So if I'm going to type the guy, I would say he tries to attach himself to the Afghan evacuations and then he pivots from there to Ukraine and makes that his passion.
	I think the guy was almost a social media addict and really got fed the mass psychosis that the Dems were feeding him.
	And with all the horrific language used against Trump, they wind this guy up and now he's going to self-actualize by becoming the guy who takes out Donald J. Trump.
	That's why he had his GoPro mounted on that fence.
	He was trophy hunting to leave his mark.
	I don't trust the feds to do an adequate job investigating.
	They can't be trying him or raiding Mar-a-Lago on a bogus documents case.
	You know, the FBI agent in charge of the Miami Field Office had to scrub his social media account, all his counts before he was named Miami Sach because they were so vehemently anti-Trump.
	So I can't believe that they're going to do an honest job of looking at any other link analysis of what spun this guy up.
	Now, supposedly he was driving a stolen car.
	Did he carjack it?
	Did he steal it by hot wiring?
	How did he do that?
	So did he have help?
	Was that, I mean, apparently, according to the phone data, he'd been on a location for at least 12 hours.
	How did he go if he was from North Carolina, but then living in Hawaii?
	How did he make it there and decide to set up and effectively stalk Trump for 12 hours?
	A thorough proctology of all of his electronics and movements has to be done.
	I'm really glad Governor DeSantis said, yes, we're going to do a proper parallel investigation because we just don't have confidence in the feds.
	That's exactly what state governors should be doing.
	There should be a significant tension in a healthy republic.
	There should be significant tension between the states and the federal government because the federal government has gotten way too bloated and overbearing.
	And as we see repeatedly now, exceedingly incompetent.
	The guy had no money.
	He, I think he was at, was it $3,000 a month he was getting, but he had to pay for his home in Hawaii.
	He has a son who has got a blue-collar job.
	He had what was described as an arsenal at his home in North Carolina, which costs money.
	He did get a plane ticket, obviously, from Oahu all the way to Mar-a-Lago.
	He had a GoPro and other equipment, as you point out.
	So there's a question about money here and whether he could have funded all of this on his own.
	Any thoughts on that?
	Again, seeing where those deposits came from, he supposedly gave a lot of money to Act Blue over the years.
	Yep.
	19 donations.
	It's going to be impossible for the Dems to try to recharacterize him as some right-winger.
	But again, the former Trump supporter.
	That's what I've heard him describe.
	Former Trump supporter.
	Yeah, it's absolute madness that the feds have memory hold anything and everything to do with Butler, Pennsylvania.
	How did this kid get explosives in his vehicle?
	All the preparations he was doing.
	Again, no output, no press conferences, no updates at all from the FBI.
	It's shocking.
	Can we just be explicit?
	Can we just be explicit?
	Because I'm very, I'm always like, it's just bank on an incompetent government.
	That's really almost always the answer.
	But are we entertaining the notion, truly, like this was an inside job that somebody in our federal government took out a hit on Donald Trump?
	I'd like to think if it was an inside job and a proper hit, that they would have found someone more competent.
	Right.
	Because if you're going to take the risk of going to that extreme measure, make sure it works.
	So what does that look like to you?
	Foreign government or just lone loser?
	My unprofessional but life experience opinion would be these people get so spun up in a leftist echo chamber that Donald Trump is Hitler that anything they do to stop him makes them a hero.
	It is like it initiates the hero's journey.
	And that's what's happening.
	And so you have that problem providing a supply of jackasses that are trying to hurt Trump.
	And at the same time, you have a very incompetent federal government that has not been responsive.
	Who's been fired since Butler, Pennsylvania?
	No one.
	Okay.
	That's right.
	The former director was forced to retire because they were going to impeach her.
	That's all.
	There's not been a revamp of their training programs.
	There's not been any actual, visible change.
	And so now you have this where another perimeter.
	Oh, geez.
	Yeah.
	The current acting director says there's a perimeter problem.
	Yes, the normal perimeter is at least a thousand meters.
	Are these guys going to step up and do their job or not?
	I've advocated because a lot of people said, Yeah, you know, get the private sector in there to supplement.
	It's exceedingly difficult for the private sector to interact at that level with the feds because the private guys will always get thrown under the bus, especially if they have the one that takes a shot.
	But what they can do is they can supplement from the military.
	There are military detailees that get assigned to the Secret Service all the time, especially for explosive ordnance disposal.
	You could do the same thing with some very, very high-end, capable tier one operators from JSOC from Delta or SEAL Team 6 and put them in the advance, put them in the outer perimeter because you want people that think like predators.
	Putting law enforcement in this, I think, is a mistake because cops tend to look backwards for evidence to make a case.
	You want people that are saying, how am I going to kill Donald Trump?
	Make that list and then making sure every item on that list is blocked and occluded and locked down.
	Nobody is thinking that way, apparently, at the Secret Service because there are now two very near attempts within the last two months, and we still have a long ways to get to the election.
	I know you sold Blackwater a number of years ago, but something tells me that if they called you while you still had all those resources and said, Eric, we're getting rid of the Secret Service.
	Can you protect Donald Trump?
	You would have known how to do it.
	There wouldn't be mission failures in two months.
	They're looking at us like we're making unreasonable demands of the Secret Service, that it's just impossible because Donald Trump likes to golf.
	Megan, if they call me, if they called me by Thursday to be ready on Monday, even now, we would be ready on Monday.
	That's what needs to happen.
	Honestly, I agree with those who are worried they're going to take him out by election day.
	They're just, the media reaction of just is controversial.
	Shows you everything you need to know.
	And you're talking about the media, the Democrat rhetoric, because now they're like, it's all Trump's rhetoric.
	That's what got him shot at.
	It's not our rhetoric.
	Completely ignoring, we put together a little montage, the messaging we've been hearing apart from Hitler, apart from Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, which is in written form everywhere.
	A little walk down memory lane.
	Here it is.
	Donald Trump and the MIGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
	And he must be stopped.
	He cannot be president.
	They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.
	The movement is a threat.
	The extremists that we're dealing with every single day.
	We've got to kill and confront that movement.
	Really?
	You know, this is a literally call to arms.
	Literally what conservative white folks do when they don't get their way.
	They turn black.
	I know who I got to vote for to keep Hitler out the White House.
	Yeah.
	Hitler White House.
	We keeping them out, keeping Project 2025 out.
	That's all I care about.
	Up and down the ballot from the Ruda to the Tudor.
	And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
	And you push back on them.
	And you tell them they're not welcome.
	Anymore, anyone with this kind of inspiration, I will go and take Trump out tonight.
	I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
	It is just unquestionable at this point that that man cannot see public office and he has to be eliminated.
	And yet you have in the Cincinnati Inquirer yesterday, in a letter to the editor they published, Trump brings these assassination attempts on himself.
	That's where the media's going with it.
	Yeah, it's it's projection.
	And it almost seems like they feel like they can get away with it because they never suffer any consequences for it.
	So I don't know if there's a way to litigate against that or to put a to put a marker down to say, if you've said this, calling for the elimination of Donald Trump and something actually happens to him, then you yourself will be eliminated.
	Sell the wind reap the whirlwind or just bring back dueling.
	Maybe people were a bit more civilized in the 19th century because when people threw down with very combative words, people could answer back and say, all right, pistols at dawn.
	I'll see you tomorrow, pal.
	And it doesn't have to be pistols.
	Maybe it's bugle sticks.
	Maybe that's a whole new use for the octagon.
	Maybe that's where the Dems want our country to spiral to, but they can't keep calling for the elimination of a presidential candidate and expect that the other side is going to just continue to take it because one guy has already been murdered, two other people grievously shot.
	Donald Trump was shot in the head.
	How much more of this do we have to take?
	I certainly don't want to see violence against Dan Goldman or anybody else, but this is, it's got to stop.
	Last question.
	I heard you say yesterday, you don't think Ron DeSantis should turn over the suspect, Ruth, to the feds.
	Stand by that?
	Yes.
	Look, the feds can interview him, sure, but keep him in a, in a Florida state controlled facility, keep control of his electronics.
	The feds can have copies of everything, but Florida should run a full and wide open investigation because I just don't have the confidence in the feds to do anything, to do the right thing on this.
	Are you worried we're going to see an Epstein moment where suddenly the guy winds up death by suicide?
	Maybe.
	Yeah, look, because, yes, he had a weapon with a serialized, with a serial number removed.
	Obviously, he was there stalking.
	So attempted murder.
	I'd say in a Florida jury, we'll certainly find him.
	Be interesting to see if the guy takes a plea in exchange for testimony, what he might testify to.
	And yes, I would want him in the state of Florida's hands, not the Fed hands, if that's the case, because he might Epstein himself.
Stalker Weapon Plea Deal 00:00:35
	Wow.
	I trust Ron DeSantis.
	I don't know about these feds.
	I agree with you, but I think that ship has sailed.
	We'll find out.
	Eric Prince, so nice to talk to you.
	Thank you so much for your insights.
	Thank you, Megan.
	We're going to be back tomorrow with our pal, Dave Rubin.
	This will be his first interview since he was accused of being like a Russian stooge because of that tenant media.
	He hasn't spoken out.
	You'll hear him here tomorrow exclusively.
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Chapters

00:00:30 Welcome To The Megan Kelly Show
00:02:36 Trump Assassination Attempts Explained
00:17:56 Secret Service Security Failures
00:21:01 Gun Control Debate Fallout
00:34:04 ABC News Whistleblower Claims
00:45:00 Springfield Ohio Resettlement Issues
01:00:00 Bathroom Gender Policy Backlash
01:07:40 Governor Ohio Hoax Allegations
01:13:11 Sniper Attempt Capability Analysis
01:24:35 Federal Government Agency Problems
01:39:42 Stalker Weapon Plea Deal