Michael Knowles addresses a hantavirus outbreak and Democratic election manipulation, fact-checks AOC on Tennessee redistricting, and analyzes Trump's Vance-Rubio ticket strategy. He critiques secular skepticism using a Kentucky "Hand of God" ultrasound, condemns OnlyFans dehumanization, and criticizes liberal leniency regarding Tampa teen crimes. Finally, he discusses Britain's first LGBTQ surrogate arrest, Barry Druitt Barlow, charged with rape and trafficking for buying a baby, arguing society must enforce guardrails against purchasing children regardless of sexual orientation to protect minors from exploitation. [Automatically generated summary]
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Hantavirus Election Insurance00:05:57
It's almost time for a contentious election, so you know what that means.
A new pandemic is brewing in quarantines around the country.
We will examine just how low Democrat favorability numbers have to drop before we all have to lock down for hantavirus.
Then, speaking of diseases, an OnlyFans model loses her composure after our old pal Clavicular introduces her to her biggest fan, who apparently donated millions of dollars to her.
Mr. Ickular, out here teaching a sophisticated lesson.
About morality and digital life.
And Britain's first gay surrogate parent has been charged with sex crimes.
I'm Michael Knowles.
This is the Michael Knowles Show.
Welcome back to the show.
President Trump has just described a presidential ticket of JD Vance and Marco Rubio as the perfect presidential ticket, but he's not endorsing them yet.
It's not an endorsement, but it's the perfect presidential ticket.
We will get to what that means and why people are already fighting.
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Are you Team Marco?
Can you even explain what the differences are?
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Right on time, folks.
What day is it?
Is it the 11th or the 12th?
Well, regardless, we're in May.
We have these contentious midterms coming up.
Democrats were supposed to sweep the whole thing in a tsunami, but because they overstepped on redistricting because of a couple crucial Supreme Court decisions at the Virginia Supreme Court level and the U.S. Supreme Court level, Republicans are set to pick up potentially 14 seats.
Maybe not enough to stop a Democrat takeover, but it's another impediment to the Democrats.
Trump is supposed to be less popular than he is.
Now, his approval rating is a little low right now.
Republicans are a little low right now, but the Democrats' approval ratings are at essentially all time lows.
And so Things are looking a little rough for the Dems.
You know what we got to do.
You guessed it.
Another pandemic.
According to the Wall Street Journal, American hantavirus cruise passengers flown to quarantine center after positive test.
Two of the passengers are being transported in biocontainment units.
Well, a woman in France has also tested positive.
So the U.S. has repatriated 18 American passengers from a cruise ship that was struck by a hantavirus outbreak.
Hantavirus, I guess, spreads from rodents.
So, these passengers are now in quarantine.
16 of the passengers being monitored at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, two others in Atlanta.
It's good Atlanta is important because Georgia can be a swing state.
So, you got to make sure you get some of that hantavirus down there.
It's not just in the U.S., though.
A French woman also tested positive for the virus during her repatriation flight.
So, you know, we're just getting things started, just in case.
It's a little bit of an insurance policy.
I don't think we're doing this again.
One, to start out, I don't think Hantavirus is an op.
I don't think it was just like made up.
I don't think it's fictional in the same way that I don't think COVID was fictional.
It was some kind of virus, obviously.
We were lied to about COVID for years, and the top health officials in the country told us bald faced lies, not just things that weren't true.
They said that wearing the hanky on your face would stop you from getting the virus.
They told you that standing six feet away was medically necessary.
It was totally made up.
They told you that taking that stupid vaccine would prevent you from catching the virus.
Then, when people caught the virus, they said it would stop you from spreading the virus.
Then, when people spread the virus, they told you it would have been a lot worse if you never took it.
They also told you there were no side effects and a bunch of people died from it.
Anyway, I'm not saying that the viruses are fake.
That is not really the argument about the Democrat opt for COVID, or we'll see how Hantavirus plays out.
The argument is that Democrats cynically played up the virus, exploited a virus to their political benefit in 2020 by rewriting all of the election rules, in some cases unconstitutionally, in the case of Pennsylvania, and giving them a structural advantage for the 2020 election.
And who knows, maybe here as well.
Fighting for Black Representation00:05:31
I don't think people are going to fall for it.
I'm not, I don't lose sleep at night over hantavirus.
I lose more sleep over Democrats subverting our whole political order.
But to quote a former Republican president, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, hey, hey, hey, the point is you're not going to fool me again.
Now, speaking of some of those shenanigans, the reshaping of the political order, as you know, the U.S. Supreme Court in Louisiana versus Calais just struck down, after many years and decades, the Democrats' racial gerrymandering.
The Democrats interpreted the Civil Rights Act, sorry, the Voting Rights Act.
Of 1965, to say that when states redistrict, so they redraw their congressional maps as they do every 10 years or so, when they do that, they have to discriminate on the basis of race.
And Democrats had argued that based on the Voting Rights Act, which they said was just giving a greater enforcement mechanism to the 14th and 15th Amendments.
The U.S. Supreme Court, with a decision by Sam Alito and then an opinion that went even further than the court's majority opinion.
Written by Clarence Thomas, notably a rather black man, argued that in fact the Voting Rights Act made no such demand, and in fact, racial gerrymandering is unconstitutional.
Not only does it not buttress the 14th and 15th Amendments, it actually undermines them, it violates them.
So we have AOC fresh on the heels of her history lesson saying that the American Revolution was fought against the billionaires of its time, the American Revolution, which was led by the richest men in the colonies.
AOC comes out with her take.
On how the redistricting, specifically in my state of Tennessee, violates the Voting Rights Act and disenfranchises black people.
When you are seeing states like Tennessee want to wipe out every black representative on the map in these states, we have an obligation as Americans to stand with black Americans and communities whose representation is being disenfranchised.
Okay, fact check.
Quick fact check here.
Is Tennessee removing the only black representative that it has in Congress?
Well, Tennessee is redrawing the maps in accordance with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision, and this will change the representation specifically surrounding Memphis, which is a majority black city.
Okay, so just quick little fact check here.
Who is the representative from Memphis?
Is it Jamal Laquitius X?
Is it I don't know.
Biggie Smalls III?
I don't know.
I'm trying to think of stereotypically black names.
No, it's Steve Cohen.
Steve Cohen, who is a notably pale individual.
I don't think he has a single drop of African ancestry to him.
Neither an octoroon nor a quadroon is he.
He is very, very lily white.
So AOC is upset that Steve Cohen might lose his job.
She interprets this as the eradication of black representatives from Tennessee.
So I think if we have a political PolitiFact or Snopes fact check here, we would have to rate this 100% false.
Once again, as AOC at that very same event said, the American Revolution was fought against billionaires.
Not only was she a little wrong, she was perfectly wrong.
It was the exact opposite of reality.
So too, in this case, Steve Cohen is not just not all that black.
He is not in any way black.
But then let's get to the deeper point of black representation in Congress.
Right now, when you include the House and the Senate, there are about 67. black representatives in the U.S. Congress.
This out of what?
What is it?
535 total representatives, which means coincidentally that black representatives make up 12.5% of Congress, which is precisely the black percentage of the U.S. population.
Not that that should even mean anything, by the way, because you could have zero black representatives in Congress and it would still not necessarily follow that black people were not represented in the United States.
Congressional representation is done by district.
It's not done by race.
We don't have 12 to 13 percent black representatives and 60 percent white representatives and however many percent Hispanic and Asian and all the other kinds of representatives.
We don't do that.
We do it not based on race, which would be unconstitutional, but by geography, by district.
Furthermore, you could have a hundred percent black members of Congress.
That still would not necessarily imply that there was racial discrimination.
In any case, The redrawing of the congressional maps in accordance with the decision of the Supreme Court with a very strong opinion from Clarence Thomas, who is more importantly an excellent jurist, but notably in this case, black, does not in any way imply racial discrimination.
Quite the opposite.
The whole point of the decision was to overturn racial discrimination, which the Democrats are pushing and which they're very upset about because they felt it gave them an advantage.
So, how are the Republicans looking?
President Trump has just come out and made a major endorsement for president, which is not an endorsement.
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A lot of people are saying they might throw their hats in the ring.
There's some talk that Ron DeSantis might run for president again.
Rand Paul might run for president again.
There was an Axios report some months ago that Senator Cruz might run for president again.
But then, of course, the two people within the administration who are leading the pack, the vice president, JD Vance, and the secretary of state, Marco Rubio.
So which one is Trump leaning toward picking?
A lot of beauties out there, J.D.
I envy you and other people.
I don't know.
Who's it going to be?
Is it going to be JD?
Is it going to be somebody else?
I don't know.
Does anybody have okay, let's go.
You ready?
Who likes JD Vance?
Who likes Marco Rubio?
All right.
Sounds like a good ticket, JD.
It's a perfect that was a perfect ticket.
By the way, I do believe that's a dream team, but these are minor details.
That does not mean you have my endorsement.
Under any circumstance.
But you know, it's a perfect, it was a big and then a very nice.
I think it sounds like presidential candidate and vice presidential candidate.
President of the Federal Law Enforcement Offices Association.
I love him.
And some people don't totally understand what Trump is saying here because they don't speak New Yorker.
I think most people get what he's saying.
But for those who don't, for those who are not familiar with that particular dialect of American English called New York A's, New York E's, He comes out, he says, okay, we got great presidential candidates here.
He starts out with JD, the vice president, obviously.
He says, who likes JD?
Huge round of applause.
He says, oh, but we got some other people.
How about Rubio?
A big round of applause.
Not as big as the round of applause for JD, but it's still pretty good.
Obviously, that crowd really likes Rubio, too.
Rubio's doing a great job.
And he says, wow, sounds like a great ticket.
He says, there was a huge round of applause for JD.
There was a very good round of applause for Marco Rubio.
Sounds like a great ticket.
A dream team, a perfect ticket.
But this is not in any way an endorsement.
It's not an endorsement, but it's perfect and it's great and it's ideal and it's exactly what you should pick.
And crucially, this is also what Trump has been saying for months now.
Trump has been saying for months, JD should be the presidential candidate.
Marco should be the vice presidential candidate.
I want them to run as a ticket.
I was in the room.
I was in the cabinet meeting when it was right before Labor Day and Marco Rubio had this great joke.
It brought down the house.
He said, you know, this is a very important Labor Day for me as a man with five jobs.
And everybody laughed.
And they're going around and Trump says, Marco, you're doing such a great job.
I hope you never run for office again.
I hope you stay in this.
So in a way, he was saying, you're doing such a great job.
Don't run for president.
But now he's saying, well, maybe run for vice president, but don't.
But he's obviously favoring.
He's saying it's not an endorsement, but I am endorsing you, but it's not an endorsement.
He's obviously favoring the vice president because that's why he picked him.
The historical circumstance, a strange historical circumstance.
Of a non consecutive second term means that when the presidential candidate picks his vice presidential candidate heading into that non consecutive second term, he is effectively saying, This is the guy who it's going to be next time.
And Trump also loves the unity, seems to me, within his administration.
There was a little bit of division and discord in the first admin and the second admin.
People are getting along great.
And this is crucial about JD and Marco Rubio because there are going to be some people out there who say, Well, I prefer Rubio.
I want it to be a Rubio JD ticket.
Or I want it to be a Rubio DeSantis ticket, or I want whatever.
But you hear a little less of that from the pro JD guys.
You ever hear a little less anti-Rubio stuff from the pro-JD guys?
You hear a little more anti-JD from some of the pro- Did I say?
Look, I haven't had a cigar this morning.
I'm a little- Let me say that again.
You hear a little less anti-Marco from the pro-JD people.
You hear a little more anti-JD from the pro-Marco people.
Okay, why?
Why is that?
Well, it seems to me, and this has been true for 15 years now, the Republican establishment feels more comfortable with Rubio.
This is no knock on Rubio.
Don't take this as a criticism of Rubio.
I think Rubio is doing a great job.
But the political establishment has preferred Rubio for a long time, really since just about the time he became senator, certainly when he ran for president in 2016.
The more establishment wing of the GOP really favored Rubio over a guy like Trump or a guy like Cruz or some of the other candidates.
And so what does that mean for this kind of ticket?
I actually think that's a great thing because the GOP does very, very well.
when you have the more conservative, a little more populist kind of candidate, along with the guy who's a little better liked by the establishment or by the business community or by even the foreign policy establishment.
This is what you had with Reagan Bush.
Reagan Bush was a unity ticket to bring together those two sides of the party.
A little more cowboy, conservative, populist, a little more country club gets along in the boardrooms kind of guy.
That was Reagan Bush.
You had this really with Trump Pence in 2016.
The GOP establishment, really, they didn't feel that comfortable with Trump.
The foreign policy establishment really didn't like Trump.
Even the business guys were a little worried about Trump, especially when he was talking about immigration and tariffs.
But they did like Pence.
Pence was a little more satisfactory to that wing.
And so in this case, I think Vance Rubio makes a lot of sense.
I think Trump is totally right here.
It's a little too early to endorse a ticket, as Trump is joking too, but that makes a lot of sense.
The fact that they appeal to slightly different wings of the party is actually a good thing.
And there's an irony, too, which is that by all appearances, at least from the outside, Vance and Rubio get along very well.
They seem to be aligned on a ton of issues.
They work together very well.
So that could be an excellent ticket.
Because, you know, Reagan and Bush did not really get along.
Maybe they came to get along, but in 1980, they were not exactly pals.
And they were a very, very effective Republican administration.
Here, if Vance and Rubio already have worked together pretty closely, already seem to get along very well, and they appeal to different groups, you have the more conservative populist candidate in JD.
Who is the vice president, who has gotten the plaudits from the president, probably should be the top of the ticket.
And then you have the guy who allays some of the fears of the more establishment wing of the GOP, but also has good conservative bona fides himself.
Hard to disagree with Trump.
That would be a very, very strong ticket.
Okay, a perfect ticket, he says.
Now, speaking of perfection, here's a story that has nothing to do with electoral politics, but it's a delightful story.
It was going viral on social media.
Hand of God in Ultrasound00:05:05
It's an image of an ultrasound.
With what looks like a hand, if not multiple, at least one hand touching the baby's head on the ultrasound.
So it's one of these 3D ultrasounds.
If you've had a kid recently and you pop for the extra $100 or whatever it costs, you get to see the 3D ultrasound.
And it's not as grainy and black and white, and you get to see all these features.
And on this, it's really, really weird.
There's a hand on the baby's head.
And I can't make sense of it.
It almost looks like AI, but it's not being reported as AI.
It's being reported by a news organization.
Where is this?
Yes, this is by KWTX.
Local news here The Hand of God, Kentucky Mom, sees divine sign in baby's ultrasound.
There's a now viral post.
One Kentucky mother shares a precious ultrasound image of her baby in which she believes a hand is seen seemingly touching the child.
Each time before ultrasounds, she says, I've dropped to my knees right in the doctor's office to pray over Kyler, said Amanda Foster.
And she prayed that God keep his hand on her baby.
And then the ultrasound comes out and you see this hand there.
And it doesn't, I don't think it's the doctor's hand.
It doesn't quite look like it would be the doctor's hand.
And it does, it's just this weird image.
Maybe it's just some, maybe it's AI.
Maybe it's some weird interference in the ultrasound.
Maybe, who knows what it is?
But it's really jarring.
Now, what I love about this image is the incredulity from people.
The people who say, not the skepticism, but the incredulity.
The skeptics, I'm a little skeptical myself.
I say, I don't know, okay, I wonder how that image came about.
Is it just, is it a hoax or is it, is there some interference or whatever?
But the people who say it couldn't possibly be the hand of God, I would just ask you, Why not?
Why not?
It's not that God's existence relies on signs like this.
It's not like if this turns out to be a hoax or just an illusion that therefore we conclude that God does not exist.
But in a world made by God, this image, if it is real, should not be surprising.
That's kind of my point.
Like modern people, secular people, materialist people, they're so shocked.
They seem so scandalized by apparent miracles.
And I don't really get why.
We live in a world that is contingent, that is in motion, that is subject to change, that has effects caused by causes, a world that by our best theories just began from nothing in a big bang.
Why is it weird that in a world that is created and sustained by God, God whose existence we can know, we can deduce through reason, why is it weird? that miracles might happen.
There's nothing contrary to physics.
There's nothing contrary to biology.
There's nothing contrary to nature about the supernatural intervening into nature in a nature that is obviously created.
You understand the point?
This is like sometimes Christians will say, well, look, I don't believe that some miracle happened.
Whatever kind of miracle it is, whether it's a Eucharistic miracle, whether it's a miraculous healing, whether it's a mystical experience, whatever it is, they say, I don't believe that this miracle happened.
And you say, hold on.
You believe a guy died and then rose again from the dead on the third day and then ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
But you don't think that a religious relic could liquefy.
You don't think that the Eucharist.
Could bleed.
You don't think that a person could be miraculously healed from cancer without any medicine?
Hold on.
They'll say this even about the miracles in the gospel.
Well, look, I don't believe that Jesus literally fed 5,000 with just a little bit of bread and fish.
Hold on.
You believe God became man, took on flesh and dwelt among us, then was crucified, died and was buried, and then rose again from the dead.
But you don't think he could make some extra bread or turn water into wine?
I don't really get it.
I understand people's challenges that they have with religion and questions that they have about revelation, the way that God reveals himself in the world.
But the people who say it is not possible to see the hand of God in an image of a baby on an ultrasound, I just think that doesn't, that's an illogical conclusion to draw.
Everything that we know about nature, everything that we know about nature, using our reason, tells us that very well could be the hand of God.
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We talked about it on the show.
And he's, you know, I've said, I think Clavicular is very talented.
I think he's actually got some interesting insights into the world, but he seemed to be going down a bad path.
And so we hope that he, you know, kind of makes a little turn, make sure he gets on the right path.
We don't want bad things to happen to him, like happens to a lot of young people who get famous, reality stars, all the rest.
But I feel vindicated in my observation that Clavicular has a good sense of media and even some insight into how society functions because he just had a viral clip introducing an OnlyFans model, like a porn lady, to one of her top donors, a guy who reportedly donated hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to her.
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Here's how it went.
Hi.
It's nice to finally meet you.
You're much fatter in person.
What?
You're much fatter in person.
Fatter?
Yeah.
Motherfucker, get a charge back.
Oh my god.
What kind of things are you into?
I don't really want to talk to you after you said that.
That was so mean.
But he gets a pass.
Like, he's given you, like, millions, right?
Yep.
Anything you want to say about yourself?
Why are you looking at me?
Because I'm scared.
Motherfucker, I'm scared.
I'm nice to finally meet you.
Are you guys dead right now?
I'm like, I don't know.
No, like, it's literally dead.
It's not even a troll.
Oh.
Like, most of them are like the scripted fake podcast, but this mother is like actually your top spender.
So, I want to know what do you bring to the table dating wise?
Okay, all right.
We'll pause here before we get to the crucial point.
But this is an amazing interaction already off the top.
So, you might say, well, maybe this is all just fake, but I don't know that it's fake.
I mean, This lady is apparently an OnlyFans lady.
And so, guys pay her money.
Kind of talk about the sign of a decadent age.
People are paying for pornography on the internet.
The most abundant product that exists probably on planet Earth for free.
People are paying for it.
It shows you perversity, it shows you the irrationality of vice, and it shows you decadence.
But I have no reason to believe that this guy hasn't spent a ton of money on this lady's OnlyFans page.
And so, they sit down.
And what does this guy say?
You'd expect him to be really in love with this girl, right?
He's given her all this money.
He looks at her and obsesses over her all the time.
He's infatuated with her.
So you'd expect him, you'd expect it to be embarrassing for him, but in a different way, perhaps.
You'd expect him to say, like, I love you and I want to marry you and I want to, you're just the most perfect thing ever.
But it's not what he says.
He sits down and he says, hey, you're fatter in person.
And she seems shocked by it.
He says, what?
All of a sudden, all of the bravado, the kind of performative confidence that goes along with any performance on camera, and certainly with like pornography or prostitution or stripping or whatever, all of that, her tone shifts immediately.
She's kind of taken aback.
Wait, what?
And why does he say it that way?
Because to him, she is just a product.
It's like going to the store and buying a pound of Gabagool.
And you inspect it, you say, the Gabagool, it's a little fatty.
Hey, hold on.
That's not what I paid for.
He's not, in other words, he's not.
In love with her as a human being would be in love with another human being, he doesn't want her, he doesn't desire her in the way that a husband desires his wife, he desires her in the way that a fat Italian guy desires Gabagul.
He wants to consume her and he's disappointed.
He says, You're fatter in real life, and he's reduced her entirely to the material, just like flashy meat.
The reality of her is disappointing to him because pornography is a glittering image, it's a phantasm, it's an illusion, and the reality is.
Is inevitably going to be disappointing because for him, this girl is in part glittering images, pixels, and in part his own fantasies, and she can't live up to his fantasies.
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She doesn't know what to say.
She's flummoxed.
And he says, What do you bring to the table?
Once again, not, Hey, what can I do for you?
How can I help you?
It's no, it's, Hey, hold on.
You're here for me.
I'm buying you.
You're my slave.
You're my product.
And then you get to the really crucial discovery of this bizarre interaction.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too.
Was it?
Yeah.
Was it nice to meet him?
Okay.
I'm really scared.
Like, kick him out now.
Yeah.
Like, right now.
I'm dead.
Why would we get him out?
You said, place a chance.
Give you over $100,000.
She's really scared.
No, because I'm scared.
I would be too.
But this is like the kind of.
That you subject yourself to when you like.
Okay, but why are you like not defending me and being mean to me?
We are defending you.
Would you not be scared if you were me right now?
That's why I have my security guard here along with all my staff.
Wait, like, would you actually not be scared right now if you were me?
I would, but then I would also say to myself, I subjected myself to this.
Right, but I didn't.
You know, like, this is the consequences of, you know, earning money in that way is.
Yeah, no, I understand.
But do you?
No, I don't think you did understand what you were doing.
That was really scary.
No, that was really scary.
Actually, that's never happened to me.
Right.
It's really easy.
It's really, really easy when it's over the internet, but, like, putting it right in front of you, it just actually gives you a clear picture on what's going on.
What an amazing turn in the interview.
What an amazing turn.
So revealing.
It actually shows can I say it?
Can it show that clavicular has some real insight here?
Some of the things he said do not reveal insight and you should not follow them.
Obviously, you know, like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer and injecting yourself with a bunch of drugs and, you know, stymieing puberty and like making yourself infertile and some of his sociological, political observations.
Not ideal.
But here on this, Specific interaction, which crucially is not even just about men and women, it's about digital versus real life, which is his expertise.
Because I think that was the discovery of my two hour interview with Clavicular, which you can get on YouTube and on Daily Wire.
The discovery was this guy was bred in a petri dish by and for the internet.
This guy is just like the perfectly distilled concentrate of growing up on the internet, which means he understands the internet really, really well.
And so when she says, Whoa, I'm scared right now.
I think that's genuine.
I think she is scared.
She should be scared.
That guy's super creepy.
And she says, Well, I'm scared right now.
And Clavicular says, You should be.
Yeah, I would be scared too.
And then she says, Why aren't you protecting me?
He says, What are you talking about?
You mean protecting you?
I have security guards all over here.
You are as well protected right now as you are ever going to be.
But why are you putting yourself in the position where you are this vulnerable?
In other words, how protected are you going to be when I'm not here with my staff and my security guards?
Why are you putting yourself in this kind of danger?
And she doesn't have a good answer for it.
So then he says, it's very easy to do all of these things, to engage in this kind of reckless behavior on the internet because you don't understand the stakes of it.
It seems like there's no danger.
It seems like there's no consequences on the internet.
But then when the internet collapses into real life, all of a sudden you realize the stakes and you realize how dangerous it is to prostitute yourself.
Prostitution is a pretty dangerous business.
You're not really protected by the law.
Prostitutes don't end up well.
Putting yourself out there, inciting the lusts of all of these guys, making yourself a product for them, and then being shocked and terrified when they desire you like a product.
Yeah, maybe you should rethink what you're doing.
It's amazing because the clip works as a Jerry Springer circus, it works on the level of pure trash reality TV entertainment.
But this is a real insight into digital life.
And it's an insight that we should take even beyond the realm of the sexual, even beyond the vice of lust.
Because we're on the internet.
People got big mouths on the internet.
They engage in all sorts of vices, all sorts of sins.
Wrath, certainly.
X is for wrath.
Twitter is for wrath.
Pride.
Instagram probably is for pride.
Avarice.
LinkedIn maybe is for avarice.
It seems like social media is tailor-made for all of these vices.
And we think they don't have consequences.
Well, that's just online.
The internet's not real life.
But you are not a divided person.
You can't compartmentalize your life and you cannot totally protect yourself from consequences by a computer screen.
You're one person and what you do in your life, whether it be over a computer screen or whether it be in the middle of the street, carries moral consequences, eternal consequences, but also very tangible consequences.
You're putting yourself in danger.
And one of the great tricks the devil plays in our digital age is to convince us that that screen protects us. both spiritually and physically.
And it doesn't.
Very insightful clip.
Got to hand it to him.
That's a very insightful clip.
You get the whole story from how radically her demeanor changes.
Okay.
Speaking of young people, the collapse of family values, there's been a teen takeover in Tampa, Florida, a teen takeover.
And that sounds really nice and kind of funny and, you know, just a little mischievous until you find out it's actually a major race riot with a bunch of deadly weapons.
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They do this all the time.
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Hard Boiled Entertainment.
It says Pro tip, Michael, keep the top on the Tumblr, less spillage.
So yesterday, I was feeling very, very Italian, and I was speaking with my hands, and I knocked my Tumblr over, and the fruity millennial seltzer went flying.
It almost took out my camera.
You say, I got to put the top on my Tumblr.
No, I don't do it.
I don't do it.
The leftist year's Tumblr comes with a top.
I don't use it, I never use the top.
I don't like it.
It's infantilizing.
It makes me feel like I'm a little child with a sippy cup.
I want to drink like a man out of a big beaker.
If it means I spill, so be it.
There's been a teen takeover in Tampa, Florida.
What is a teen takeover?
We have some B roll footage of it, I think.
Teen takeover is when a ton of urban youths show up, in some cases with deadly weapons, and terrorize people, commit violence, vandalism.
Total disorder.
A consequence of this teen takeover is 22 arrests, the seizure of two guns.
How old are the kids?
There's one 21-year-old, not a teen, two 20-year-olds among the arrested, one 18-year-old, two 17-year-olds, three 16-year-olds, four 15-year-olds, two 14-year-olds, six 13-year-olds, and a 12-year-old.
So the arrests bookended by people who are not teenagers.
A 12 year old showing up to commit crimes with 21 year olds carrying guns.
Now, this is very unfortunate.
We don't like race riots in our cities.
That's just generally to be frowned upon.
It's even worse that this involves really young people, teenagers.
But the most scandalous part of the whole thing is that we're calling it a teen takeover.
When I was a kid, a teen takeover was a special night at the museum.
A teen takeover.
Was like the special day at the movie theater when tickets were a little cheaper and they played G rated movies.
That was the teen takeover of this institution or that institution.
Now, in our highly degraded culture, as we live in the ruins of our civilization, a teen takeover is when a bunch of 12-year-olds show up with guns like they're child soldiers in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
And how do you deal with that?
This is the other thing.
How do you deal with that?
What the libs insist is that we just let people off the hook.
There is a story.
Maybe I'll get a little more into it tomorrow.
There's a story.
This guy, recidivist, criminal, rap sheet a mile long.
He gets out of a mental health inspection.
He was arrested.
He's evaluated for mental health.
They say, okay, well, yeah, the guy's kind of crazy.
We're just going to let him out.
And then he goes and kicks a 78 year old man down the stairs of a subway.
The 78 year old man dies on the subway.
This guy was out on the streets.
Now he's been arrested for it.
But that guy had been arrested many, many other times.
He was threatening a couple women on a subway.
He was chasing them, kicking women on the subway, trying to grab them, trying to victimize them.
They got away.
The guy starts following them across the street.
And then luckily, there were some cops there to protect them.
Speaking of protecting women.
But the ladies refused to cooperate with the cops.
And one of the girls goes on record.
She was a 23 year old girl.
She says, Well, I don't know.
I didn't want to cooperate with the cops.
I didn't want to, you know, it's like, I guess, I don't know.
I just didn't want to see another black man in prison.
So she lets this guy off the hook.
She refused, not only did she let him off the hook, she refuses to cooperate with the cops who are trying to enforce the law and protect the community.
The guy gets off the hook and he goes and kicks a 78 year old man down the stairs and kills him.
So because she didn't want to put a black man in prison, another black man in prison, She put an elderly white man in the grave.
That was the consequence of that, of her misapplied empathy and her misperception of racial justice.
The consequence of that was an elderly man was murdered in a totally preventable crime.
Same thing here.
What's going on?
How do you get a 12 year old showing up with a bunch of 21 year olds and guns committing crimes all over the streets?
What do you do about that?
You're not going to treat them like adults, I guess.
They're kids.
But what are you going to do?
The inclination among the liberal, humanitarian, laissez faire set is to say, well, you know, we need to slap them on the wrist and tell them no, no, no.
But we certainly can't put them in juvenile detention.
We can't put them in prison.
We can't punish their families, obviously terrible families.
We can't act in a way that is authoritarian or overbearing.
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No, no, no.
We have to just understand the root causes, how the generational trauma stemming from the American Revolution, which was fought against the billionaires, why that's leading these 12 year olds.
To terrorize people with guns.
No, you have to just bring down the full force of the law.
The instinct, this is the most scandalous part of it for the libs, is to just coin another euphemism.
Oh, well, it's just another teen takeover.
You know, boys will be boys.
You know, those 12 year olds running around shooting people with 21 year olds at the mall.
You know, it's like, who among us hasn't?
I looked up the etymology or the history of the phrase teen takeover.
It was coined in Chicago in 2019.
It's a pretty new phrase.
Seven years old.
And the reason that you have this phrase is so that we don't have to grapple with the reality of this, which is that we have, through our laissez-faire attitude, which you see socially on the left, but you see it a little bit on the right too.
The right embraces laissez-faire.
Hands off, we need very small government, whatever.
Well, the consequence of that is the total degradation of society and the degradation of these people in particular.
So I would say maybe we get rid of the euphemisms and we bring the full weight of the law down even on the little 12 year olds and certainly on their families.
That's the only way that you can prove this for everybody.
Okay, last story before we go.
Britain's first gay surrogate parent was just charged with rape and human trafficking.
Where's the story?
I'll just read a little bit from the story.
I don't want to get too much.
It's not exactly a man bites dog story.
So Barry Druitt Barlow, 57 years old, and Scott Druitt Barlow, I don't think they're brothers.
I don't know.
They have the same last name.
I don't think they're brothers, who's about 25 years younger.
They're the co owner of some soccer team.
They're set to appear in court because this guy. who is now married to his daughter's ex-boyfriend.
He became earlier, pre this daughter's ex-boyfriend husband, he became the first gay parent to surrogate a baby.
This is in 1999.
So what he did was he went, he purchased a woman's egg, he rented a woman's womb, he bought a baby, designed her baby.
He's obviously a total sexual deviant.
He ends up then dating his daughter's boyfriend and getting gay married to him.
And anyway, he's just been charged with rape and human trafficking.
But of course, now the conclusion of this is not that all guys who are a little light in the loafers are pedophiles.
That's not the conclusion.
That's going to be a tempting conclusion for people to reach, but that's not fair.
That isn't true.
The conclusion of this should not be that all of the homosexuals should be like thrown off of rooftops or hung from cranes or something.
That's not, that's obviously in certain parts of the world, that's the conclusion.
I don't think that's a fair conclusion.
I don't think that's where your righteous indignation at this story should lead you to land.
But I think all reasonable people should look at a story like this the very first guy to surrogate a baby, for the very first homosexual in Britain, to surrogate a baby.
And this guy turns out is a sexual criminal.
I think we can reach the fair conclusion that the gays can't buy babies.
And maybe no one should buy babies, actually.
But especially the gays should not buy babies because.
You just have to ask yourself, is this ideal for the baby?
Is it ideal for the baby?
For a couple of homosexuals to go order him and then intentionally deprive the baby of his mother and then rent some other woman's womb and then rip away the only mother the baby's ever known and then to be raised in a household with two fellas.
We've gone through the studies many times on here of the bad outcomes that this has for kids.
But just even from first principles, do we think this is ideal for the baby?
Do you think that a mother has anything to contribute to the raising of a child?
Just as a father has anything to contribute to the raising of a child?
You do think that.
Okay.
So then, should we, in our law, permit people intentionally to deprive a child of a mother or a father?
Should we, as a matter of the law, permit people who are, by definition, a tad sexually deviant and who statistically are much more given over to much more aberrant sexual behaviors, sexual crimes?
Should we, by matter of law, permit these people to go out and purchase babies?
No.
But, Michael, you know, sometimes women abuse children.
Yeah, they do.
You're right.
Men abuse children at a much higher rate.
But, yeah, women do sometimes too.
So what?
But, Michael, don't you know straight people sometimes abuse children?
Uh huh.
Right, sure.
But homosexuals are given to these extremely deviant sexual identities at a much higher rate.
So it's just, we're not going to ban people from getting married like normal, like husband and wife.
We're not going to ban people from having kids, nor should we.
But it seems to me we could put some guardrails on this, right?
Does anybody seriously think this is the ideal situation for a child to be raised, to be purchased by a man who is dating his daughter's boyfriend, who intentionally deprives the baby of his mother and who goes on to commit sexual crimes?
No, it's not ideal.
So can we just, without being homophobes or whatever, can we just say that we shouldn't allow that, just as basically no society ever allowed that until about five minutes ago?
Can we say that the needs of the child are more important than the desires of deviant men?
Can we say that?
Do we have the courage and confidence to say that and to do something about it?
Do we have the courage and clarity to enforce our moral vision in society as we must do, as all governments and societies must do?
Or no?
Are we just going to be laissez-faire?
Well, you know, I mean, you do you, I'll do me.
This is just the teen takeover by another measure.
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It's the same root problem.
Can we come out and say, no, sorry, gays, we like Cole Porter, we like Noel Coward, you don't get to buy babies.
And actually, heterosexuals, you probably shouldn't buy babies either.
But we're just dealing with this issue right now.
You guys don't get to buy babies.
Can we say that?
Are you willing to say that?
Because if you're not, then I don't want to hear about all of this.
Well, we need to be tougher and we need the new crusades and we need to, you know, insist on standards.
And no, guys, if you can't say that a couple of fellas don't get to go buy a baby, you don't.
You don't have any credibility on any of those other issues.
Okay.
Oh, there's one more story I really want to get to.
But I don't have time because it's TEE Tuesday.
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