Ep. 1936 - The Bachelorette CANCELED After Star Throws Chair At Baby Daddy
Michael Knowles critiques The Bachelorette's cancellation following a star throwing a chair at her baby's father, arguing for a return to the Hays Code. He interviews Congressman Andy Ogles regarding calls for a "Muslim ban" against Syria and Iraq after terror attacks in Virginia and Texas, while defending Trump's jokes about Pearl Harbor-style surprises on Iran. The episode also addresses "Project 2029," defends Gavin Newsom's wife, and answers listener questions on interfaith marriage and C.S. Lewis's views on beauty. Ultimately, the show champions traditional values against perceived cultural decay and political overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
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The new reality TV Bachelorette, who used to be a secret lives of Mormon wife, is under scrutiny for a two-year-old video in which she threw a chair at one of her baby's daddy in front of her child.
And now this show might be canceled and everyone is talking about it.
And no one seems to have noticed the most preposterous aspect of the whole drama.
Then a 2028 Democrat presidential candidate promises to prosecute Trump supporters, White House officials, staffers, if the Democrats take back power.
We will look at Project 2029, as they're calling it.
And President Trump gives the greatest one-liner in the history of press conferences during an Oval Office appearance with Japan's prime minister.
I'm Michael Knowles.
the Michael Knowles Show.
Welcome back to the show.
A horrific story about a man who identifies as a woman and an infant.
We'll keep it PG because this is a family show, but a lot of political import here and some deep lessons, really, for political philosophy.
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All right.
I have a lot of thoughts on the Bachelorette.
I learned all about this this morning when I woke up.
I finished writing my show in the morning.
I want to make sure there's no news that broke at night.
And I turned to sweet little Elisa.
I say, hey, girl, what should I do my show on today?
He goes, Mac, the only thing anybody's talking about is the Bachelorette.
I said, well, I don't know anything.
I don't know.
That show's been on since the 1930s at this point.
I think it's been on forever, but I don't really know anything about it.
She gave me the skimmy.
And then I realized that the craziest aspect of this whole controversy, no one is even talking about.
So we'll get to it.
But first, before we get, we have so much to get to today, because for this Friend Friday, I want to bring on my friend and my congressman, Congressman Andy Ogles, who is typically making friends all across Washington, D.C., all across the various communities, especially that lean left.
My friend, Mr. Ogles, has just called on the mosques in America to condemn the recent spate of terror attacks that we've seen.
Apparently, not one of these 3,000 mosques has come out and condemned them.
And he is proposing what critics are calling and supporters are calling a Muslim ban on immigration.
Here to explain himself amid all the criticism.
Andy Ogles.
Andy, thank you for being here.
Absolutely.
And thanks for having me.
You know, it's an important topic and it's one that we have to have.
I mean, all we have to do is look at Europe.
Look at London.
Look at Paris.
Look at Rome.
You know, the UK has become the rape capital of Europe.
Sweden is number two.
Why?
Because of the influx of migrants, primarily Muslim coming from all over the world.
And now we're seeing it here in the United States.
So let's set the stage.
Like you said, in the last three weeks, we've had four terror attacks on U.S. soil.
They have the shooting in Virginia, the shooting in Texas, the car attack in Michigan, and then the attempted bomb throwings in New York.
We have roughly 3,000 mosques in the United States of America, and not a single mosque to date has condemned the violence or disavowed the attackers.
So they want to claim to the religion of peace, but yet they're afraid to condemn violence.
And so my letter, an open letter on Official Letterhead, is to call on the mosques, to call on the Imams to stand by the rhetoric that you're a religion of peace and condemn the violence.
Say this is not acceptable in the United States.
Quite frankly, it's not acceptable globally.
And they need to disavow, disavow the attackers.
When you see the headlines about this, it's right-wing, hardliner, conservative Andy Ogles, you know, making this provocative statement.
Then I read your letter and I was actually shocked.
First of all, we've become so used to these kinds of attacks, even though they've been happening in recent weeks.
I've covered them all on the show.
I had actually forgotten.
I said, oh, right, that's the one in Michigan and the one in Austin and the one in New York, of course.
And there are 3,000 mosques in this country.
We have seen Islam spreading and spreading, so much so that on the 25th anniversary of 9-11, you now have a Muslim mayor of New York who's celebrating all sorts of Muslim stuff, who's kind of dissing the Christians in New York, not showing up to the installation of the Archbishop.
We could go on and on about Mr. Mamdani in Mamdanistan.
But obviously, Islam has spread.
Dearborn, Michigan now is basically part of the caliphate.
And of all the mosques in the country, not one of them has condemned these terror attacks.
I mean, this is what I'm learning from your letter.
And so I see the headline and it says, you know, Andy Ogles is this radical.
I say, well, hold on, who's the real radical here?
The 3,000 mosques, not one of which will condemn the terror attacks in recent weeks or the guy who's just pointing that out.
Well, I mean, think about it.
If a Christian in the name of God killed, you'd have pastors and churches all over the country say, no, no, no, no, not in our name.
We don't support that, right?
If you had someone of the Jewish community, the synagogues, right, they would come out en masse and say, no, no, no, we don't support that.
Hindus, Buddhists, they would do the same thing.
Why can't the Muslim community, why can't these mosques say, you know what, this is not why we're here?
But I think the reality is when you look at Europe, I mean, look, I've got some data points right here.
48% of crimes in Paris are committed by immigrants, most of them Muslim.
You look at London, 40% of sex crimes committed by migrants, most of them Muslim.
Rome, 83% of street robberies, migrants, most of them Muslim.
I mean, there's a pattern here that's developing in Europe.
And look, so we could put our heads in the sand and ignore the data.
And by the way, those data points, those aren't mine.
That's from the London Police Department.
That's from the French Interior Ministry.
That's from the Rome Police Department.
This is their data.
And I'm assuming that the data is sugar-coated, by the way.
But even if it's sugar-coated, it's damning.
And so I'm not going to stand by while Americans are being attacked.
And so I'll say this, for all the noise they're making attacking me, the silence of the Muslim community and the silence of the mosques speaks louder than anything that I might say or put on social media.
Okay, now, beyond the letter, the other thing you're getting in trouble for right now is according to the headlines, I don't know, I haven't read the bill, you want to ban Muslims from coming to America, and this is a violation of the Establishment Clause and the First Amendment, and it's downright un-American.
You know, there's nothing more American than halal street food and, you know, prayer calls five times a day.
So how are you, how could you on this, the 250th anniversary of our country, how could you propose something so deeply un-American?
What do you mean, I want America to be American?
Wow, that's shocking.
But now let's be serious.
So what we're focusing on are the countries that do not have proper vetting.
So for example, yes, Syria, Iraq, those countries in that part of the world, but also in South and Central America, you have countries like Venezuela.
And so let's take a step back.
So we had Iran was funding and sending Hezbollah terrorists from their part of the world to Venezuela.
Venezuela was giving them fake IDs and then sending them to our southern border, where then those Hezbollah terrorists were claiming asylum in the United States.
And so this is the pipeline that we're seeing coming from the terrorists in the Middle East to South and Central America coming to our southern border, claiming asylum.
And keep in mind, I'm chairman of the Cyber Subcommittee for Homeland Security.
I get briefings that most members of Congress don't get.
And what I can tell you is I'm utterly shocked that we haven't had a mass terror attack on U.S. soil right now.
I'm shocked that it hasn't happened because we have terrorists, not just some run-of-the-mill, you know, I'm not going to say what I was going to say, but run-of-the-mill person.
These are soldiers.
These are trained terrorists that have come into this country under fake IDs, and we have no idea who or where they are.
This is why I have to do and be so bold.
And so for me to block a country like a Venezuela, like a Syria, like an Iraq that isn't vetting people who literally are emptying their prisons and sending terrorists our way, no, sir.
And again, I was on a media interview and the journalist was, you know, trying to get me in a gotcha moment.
And she says, well, you know, the founding fathers and, you know, the originalists, I say, well, hold on, let's talk about that for a moment.
When they were talking about this, this, you know, freedom of religion, which religions were they speaking of?
Oh, and by the way, the first mosques, prayer rooms, actually, didn't appear in the United States until 1920.
Wait, hold on, Andy.
You're telling me that Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Shiite?
I'm totally shocked to hear this.
You're telling me that the framers of the Constitution were not debating, I don't know, Wahhabism or the Sunni-Shia split.
I totally agree.
You know, Barack Obama some years ago said that Islam has been a part of America since the very beginning, which is technically true because in the earliest days of our country, we fought the Barbary War because Muslims on the other side of the world were enslaving our sailors.
But yes, of course, you didn't have serious Muslim immigration to America until relatively recently.
So when I see the headlines, they say this radical right-wing MAGA person, Andy Ogles, wants to ban the Muslims.
And then I look at what you're actually talking about.
Would anybody seriously object to curtailing migration from Syria, Iraq, Venezuela for that matter?
I mean, this is just common sense.
This is the sort of thing President Trump pushed in his first term.
And so when I read this, not only does it not seem radical, it seems common sense.
Hey, how about any of the 3,000 mosques condemn the Muslim terrorism that we've been seeing in spades?
Hey, how about countries that can barely even be called nation states at the moment?
How about we curtail immigration from them?
This is common sense.
It seems to me the radicals are the ones who would oppose it.
Well, you know, in reality, I'm simply doing, I took an oath to serve this country and quite frankly, to protect this country.
I'm on financial services.
I'm on the National Security Subcommittee.
I'm on Homeland Security.
I'm one of the chairmen.
So I have a distinct role in protecting this nation from outside and quite frankly, attacks from within.
And so we have to have this conversation because we see what's happening in Europe.
Again, we have real-time data and Europe is probably 10 years ahead of us as far as the migrant curve.
And so we have opportunity.
We have time to fix this and properly vet the people that are coming into this country.
But look, if you lied on your naturalization form, you should be denaturalized and you should be deported.
If you came across any of our ports or our borders, et cetera, illegally, you should be deported.
This is our country.
We get to decide who comes in.
Are we even allowed to say that anymore?
This is our country.
I don't know that we are, but look, it's common sense.
I think the vast majority of Americans obviously agree with you on this.
And speaking of what the vast majority of Americans are talking about, Andy, I assume you don't have many public thoughts on the bachelorette.
So I will mercifully let you off the hook before we get to that.
Thank you very much, though, for everything you're doing in Washington, D.C., for this district and for our country.
And most importantly, for coming on this show.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Good to see you, sir.
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Folks, The Bachelorette.
The Bachelorette is going to be canceled, maybe, because the star of The Bachelorette, who was formerly a Secret Lives of Mormon wife reality TV star, was now caught on camera two years ago.
I think I'm getting this right.
Two years ago, attacking one of her baby's daddy, it's like attorneys general.
Some say baby daddies, but it's baby's daddy with a chair in front of one of her children.
Here's the video.
Yeah.
Yeah, look at you.
Look, look.
Yeah, look.
This is called physical abuse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, Taylor, this is all you do.
It's the only thing you know how to do.
I don't want to f ⁇ .
Let me go.
Stop.
Dude, leave me alone.
Whoa.
That's crazy.
That's a metal stool.
Your daughter is right here.
Whoa, man.
All right.
This is dark.
This is the first time I'm actually seeing this with audio.
All right.
Take this.
This is too dark.
I guess this is reality TV, so there's no surprise here, but they're going to cancel the show.
They're going to cancel The Bachelorette because this woman years ago threw stools at her husband, ex-husband, baby daddy when she was on this other reality TV show called The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
And the most absurd part of all of this, no one's talking about it.
No one's talking about it.
She's not a bachelorette.
She's a divorcee.
Divorcees are not bachelorettes.
A bachelorette is a woman who is not married, who is about to be married.
This woman's married.
She's so married, she's divorced.
That would be like, it'd be like having a network TV show called The Teenager starring Joe Biden.
It's true.
At some point, Joe Biden was a teenager.
He is not a teenager anymore.
That's the most absurd part.
It's the cherry on top of the absurd Sunday.
This is trash all the way down.
It's kind of funny that they're going to cancel a trashy reality TV show because the stars are behaving in a trashy and degenerate way.
That's not exactly a man bites dog story.
Isn't that what everybody signed up for?
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That's the whole show.
Then on top of the absurdity that the star of the bachelorette is not actually a bachelorette is this notion.
It's talking to sweet little Lisa about this.
I didn't know anything about it until six o'clock in the morning today.
And sweet little Lisa was pointing out that the premise of the bachelorette starring this woman is that 20 good-looking young men are lining up to win the hand of this psychotic woman who is divorced, who has children from multiple other men, who is 31 years old.
And no knock on people who have lived a little bit of a rough life, kind of turned it around.
No knock on, listen, some of my best friends are 31 year olds.
Okay, that's young now compared to me.
I'm an old man after my birthday.
But good-looking young guys are not lining up for that.
That's not, that is another layer of absurdity to all of this.
It's so out of whack.
It's so bizarre and grotesque.
And it was ever thus.
I remember when reality TV stole, reality TV shows really kicked off in the 90s with Survivor.
That was the first real big one that launched the genre.
And it was just kind of a game show.
It's a game show where you got a little bit more intel on the personal lives of these people.
But over time, it's become more and more degenerate.
You had the Jersey Shore and all those shenanigans and the secret lives of Mormon wives.
I guess some of whom are not Mormon and some of whom are not wives.
Now you got the Bachelorette starring a divorcee.
It just gets wackier and wackier and wackier and more perverse and uglier Because this is how vice and sin work.
When you engage in vice and sin, you need the harder stuff.
It's like a drug.
When you start doing drugs, because the drugs ultimately don't satisfy you, you need more and more and more, and there's no end to it.
It's like porn.
You start out looking at like a naked lady and playboy.
Pretty soon, there's all sorts of crazy stuff on the internet, and there's a porn for everything.
It's that way with any vice.
To some degree, it's the same way with any virtue.
When you start performing virtuous acts, especially when you're cooperating with God's grace, you find it's easier to engage in virtuous acts.
It's easier and easier and easier, but that's good.
That actually builds you up.
This thing is tearing you down.
So what's the answer to all of this?
We need a new Hays Code.
The Hays Code was the film industry.
This is 100 years ago now, a little under 100 years ago, the film industry self-censoring.
In the 1920s, the film industry was full of disgusting, violent, obscene, pornographic, absurd filth.
And then a bunch of Catholics, it was actually Catholics who brought the Hays Code, came into Hollywood and said, hey, no more of this stuff.
No more blasphemy, no more porn, no more creepy sex stuff, no more gratuitous violence, no more this, no more that.
And they made the greatest movies ever made.
Actually, the greatest movies ever made, I guess with the exception of The Godfather and me, myself, and Irene, were all made under the Hays Code.
And then eventually the Hays Code was weakened.
And even the principle of the Hays Code was carried over to television.
I love Lucy.
Lucy and Ricky couldn't sleep in the same bed.
And they had to dance around the fact that she was pregnant.
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And you know what?
We were all better for it.
We need a Hays Code.
Let the bachelorette starring the divorce with the baby's daddy and the domestic violence.
Let that be the line in the sand.
Especially, I was just, I was speaking at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast yesterday.
It was a lot of fun.
Then I did an event at the Heritage Foundation afterward, you know, where it was the Feast of St. Joseph.
It's great.
You know, we're talking about Catholic contributions to America.
The Hays Code was a great Catholic contribution to America.
Time to bring it back.
Now, speaking of great TV, President Trump just gave the finest one-liner in the history of press conferences going back to Pericles.
We will get to that.
It's from the Oval Office with the Japanese prime minister.
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President Trump's sitting in the oval with the Japanese prime minister who seems to adore him.
When she gets out of the car, she runs up, gives him a big hug at the White House.
He showed her the Hall of Presidents, you know, on the White House little walkway there by the Rose Garden.
And the Biden picture is just an auto pen.
She seemed to get a huge kick out of it.
Trump also got along famously with Shinzo Abe, something about Trump in Japan.
They get along great.
It's like white on rice, you know, to use an apt metaphor.
In any case, they're sitting in the oval and a reporter asks President Trump why he did not tell everyone about the attack on Iran before he launched it.
Japan and U.S. are a very good friend.
But one question, why didn't you tell U.S. allies in Europe and Asia, like Japan, about the war before attacking UN?
So we are very confused about Japanese.
Well, one thing, you don't want to signal too much.
You know, when we go in, we went in very hard and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted surprise.
Who knows better about surprise than Japan?
Okay.
Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
Okay.
Right?
He's asking me, you believe in surprise?
I think much more so than us.
Just magnificent.
I don't know how to frame a clip, but that's it.
No one will ever beat it.
I was sitting, I had dinner last night with Jeremy, actually.
We were out having dinner.
It took me out for my birthday.
And we were just talking about how Trump is Elvis.
He's just, Trump is Elvis.
You know, Jeremy is, he's criticized Trump a zillion times over the years.
He and I have gotten into it about Trump.
You know, I was very pro-Trump basically from the very beginning, and he was very anti-Trump.
But the thing that he agreed on, he even brought it up, he said, the guy is just, he's just amazing at this.
I mean, he's just, he's Elvis.
And so he's sitting there.
He gets the answer to the, he gets the question, why did you not tell people about the attack?
And he gives a serious answer.
He started to say, well, you know, look, I didn't want to signal.
I don't want to.
And then that showbiz brain kicked in and goes, hey, who knows more about surprises than you guys?
Am I right?
At this point, he could have gotten up with a stool, lit a cigarette, spotlight on him like he's in a comedy club in New York.
Let me tell you about these guys, huh?
We got some of our Japanese friends here.
Am I right?
You know, boom, ba-dum-bum-bum.
Yeah, we got some Japanese here, huh?
Yeah, if you guys know a little bit about surprises, why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?
Bum-ba-dum-bum-bum.
Just great.
Just a great bit.
I'm going to miss him very, very much after the fourth or fifth term.
Whatever, I don't know, at a certain point, you know, after he's 120 years old or something, probably he's, you know, life will take its course.
But I'm just sorry that we're only in the second term right now, or that we're already in the second term.
We've only got, what, two or three terms left?
It's beautiful.
And it's not just funny.
It is a serious point.
The serious point he's making is that you don't telegraph your moves when you are engaging in war, even when you're engaging in ordinary politics.
And he's conveying that very serious point with some humor.
So people take note of this.
Antonin Scalia did this in his Supreme Court opinions and dissents.
He talked about that.
He would use these funny words, applesauce.
Did you ask the nearest hippie?
These are lines from Antonin Scalia's dissents in big cases.
Why did he do it?
He said, why do it?
Because it grabs people's attention and it's kind of funny and it's memorable.
And that way it's going to stick in the minds of law students and it's going to shape American jurisprudence.
Same thing here.
Very, very funny and very, very smart.
Okay.
Now, speaking of the next presidential administration, if Trump does leave in 2028 and we have a Democrat administration, heaven forfend in 2029, one of the contenders for that, J.B. Pritzker, the Illinois governor, says that his answer to Project 2025 is Project 2029, which basically just means arresting Trump supporters.
What does a Project 2029 agenda look like for you?
I don't think you can speak of it in shorthand, but I'll just say a couple of things that I think are absolutely necessary.
One is we've got to restore the rule of law, and that means holding people accountable who've broken the law.
I'm talking about in this administration, when we get a new one, the people in this administration who've broken the law and federal agents who've broken the law need to be held accountable.
And that means criminally prosecuted.
Criminally prosecuted, civilly prosecuted, whatever it is that we can do, right?
It may be that you can't criminally prosecute somebody, but that you can go after them civilly.
So Project 2025, the much talked about Project 2025, was essentially a personnel database, just a spreadsheet of names of people who could staff an administration.
And the Libs made hay about this, and they said, Project 2025 is where they're going to round up all the Democrats, ship them to the gulag, abolish the infield fly rule.
I don't know.
They had all these ideas of what Project 2025 was.
But really, it was just a way to make sure that the administration could get going very quickly in 2025.
Project 2029, ironically enough, is what they said Project 2025 was.
According to J.B. Pritzger, he's the one using this phrase.
This isn't some scare quote from the right.
He says, yeah, I have this idea of Project 2029 where we're going to arrest all of our enemies.
We're going to round them up and prosecute them for political crimes.
That is what the Democrats said Project 2025 was you should totally hang this around Pritzker's rhetorical neck if he actually does run for president.
He is saying the quiet part out loud and he is acknowledging that every Democrat accusation is in fact a confession.
Speaking of Dems in 2028, Gavin Newsom's wife is making the rounds because of an old interview she did with my friend Alex Michelson on his old show in Los Angeles.
Newsom's wife is, according to all the commentary about this, really harming her husband's presidential ambitions because she talks about how woke she is.
She's supporting LGBT priorities like gay marriage, this, that, or the other thing.
But I actually don't really think that is the case.
Do we have the clip of Gavin Newsom's wife?
There's so much to learn from same-sex couples who have learned to communicate and who also are like, well, look, you know, someone's got to do the care work in a same-sex male couple.
Someone's got to do that.
So I'm just going to do it.
And this is like, and not be afraid or ashamed because it's part of being human.
We're all on a spectrum, right?
It's just how society kind of pushes us and pressures us into these limiting gender roles.
But again, the folks on the far right, they're missing is just this, they're living in this silo, this evangelical conservative silo that ultimately is, it's just pulling us back as a country to a time and a place where we don't deserve to be and we're not going to be because honestly, young women and fathers of daughters are awake now and they're woke and they're not going to let us go back.
And so I have so much hope because of that.
And obviously California has a huge responsibility to lead.
So some conservatives are posting this clip around and saying, see, Gavin Newsom's so radical.
This woman has no place in the White House.
She's an ideological radical.
Or they're saying she's dumb or she's this or she's that.
They think this is a gotcha on Newsom.
I have totally the opposite reaction.
Yes, this clip is from two or three years ago back when woke was really popular and she says all the popular things and I like gay stuff and kids are woke now and we just need to be better as a country and it all sounds ridiculous.
But I actually find the clip endearing.
This woman clearly does not have any deeply held beliefs.
I don't think Gavin Newsom has particularly deeply held beliefs.
He's Patrick Bateman.
He's a sociopath.
I would be surprised if this woman has any serious thoughts really at all, which means that in many ways, she is a traditional first lady.
I actually think the more you see that clip, the more endearing you find her.
This ain't Hillary, okay?
This woman is not going to be put in charge of healthcare.
She's just a lady doing an interview because her husband's a politician.
She says, I just like nice stuff and I just want us all to get along.
And, you know, the kids are the future.
That's essentially what she's saying.
I wouldn't use that.
Once again, you know, the Newsoms are bad news.
They've destroyed California.
They would destroy the country.
They're pretty slippery, though.
I would not.
That's not the gotcha, folks.
Same thing when they say, you know, Gavin Newsom, he's so good-looking and slick.
And that's not a great gotcha either.
You got to focus on the consequences of his policies.
So much more to get to.
I'm actually kind of happy that we've run out of time and we're not going to talk about this awful story about a trans-identifying guy who had a horrible encounter with a child.
And it's always the ones you most expect.
Maybe we'll get to the political import of that story on Monday.
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Hi, Mr. Knowles.
This is Shayz Art.
I'm a big fan of your show.
Even the gay little intro.
I never skip it.
I'm a Protestant, but I'd like to thank you for introducing me to the TLM.
I've been attending it for about two years now.
Here's a situation I need help with.
I'm dating this cute American Italian girl and we plan on getting married in about a year.
She's a Christian who believes in traditional family values, dresses modestly, goes to church regularly, doesn't drink or do drugs, and thinks the divorce should only be considered in situations involving infidelity and abuse.
When I asked her to come to the TLM with me, she immediately said yes, and she later even invited me to her own church.
So long story short, she's a diamond in the rough, especially since we're in New York.
Now, even though she's Catholic and I'm Protestant, and we both grew up in completely different cultures, we're talking East and West here.
Our values and opinions on important subjects align.
We even agree on how to raise our kids.
So now we're discussing everything else that could come up once we start living together after getting married.
What are some topics that we should get concrete answers on, especially given the cultural differences?
Once again, thank you so much.
Okay, well, it sounds like it's really working out pretty well for you.
It seems like you got it all together.
Sometimes I get these questions where it's just immediately clear these two people should not get married or they'll have a very difficult, difficult life for themselves.
But here, you seem like you're in a good position.
The first thing, very practically, that you're going to have to get straight is that to get married, if she's a Catholic and you're at least nominally a Protestant, even though you're going to the traditional Latin Mass.
So it sounds like you guys are pretty close on that too.
But one thing you will have to do, because it would technically be an interfaith marriage.
If she's Catholic, you would have to get a dispensation from the bishop, which would be easy enough, but you would have to agree to raise the kids Catholic.
Again, that doesn't really seem like a problem for you guys because you're going to the traditional Latin Mass and you're bringing her.
And so anyway, I assume over time you'll be trending very much in the same direction on that question.
Then the other thing to get straight is just whether you're going to play by the rules or not.
And this is kind of an all or nothing thing.
In a lot of modern marriages, they want to make it up as they go when they're talking about finances, when they're talking about personal behavior, when they're talking about kids, how many kids they want, whether or not they even want to have kids.
It's all make it up as you go.
The traditional view, though, is great.
Highly recommend 10 out of 10 because the rules are all there for you and they work.
That's why they're the rules.
That's why they've become the way that we do it over time.
And what's prescribed in the Bible.
And so that means, okay, is the husband the head of the household?
Great.
That means you're one flesh.
You're not going to get divorced really under any circumstances, though there's more to that discussion, I guess.
Yeah, great.
Okay, wonderful.
You have shared finances.
Great.
What are your priorities?
What kind of house do you want to live in?
Where do you want to live?
How are you going to determine if you have to move?
Are you going to follow the husband's career?
Is the wife going to continue to work a job outside the home?
Are you going to, is the wife going to work a job for a little while, then quit the job?
And these are real practical things.
But the crux of the matter is, are you going to play by the rules or are you going to make it up as you go along?
And I think you know my recommendation.
Next one.
Hello, Michael.
I love your show.
I don't miss a day usually.
I love Tehehyu Tuesday.
Anywho, I am wondering about what your family does for Easter and Lent.
You guys have young kids, we have young kids.
We just started watching the Ten Commandments during Holy Week.
It's not only an Easter movie, but it takes the whole week to watch.
And it's an excellent movie.
So I'm just wondering what other kinds of things you do to get your family ready for Easter.
Thank you.
Often we will go see my grandmother, my grandmother who's not 93 years young, I think.
Maybe 93 or somewhere around there.
And a lot of my family lives down by her.
So that's always a lot of fun.
Last year, though, we got an invite to the White House Easter egg roll because the Republicans are back in town.
I thought, oh, this would be a really cool experience for my kids.
And so anyway, we go up there.
And then, you know, I don't know, maybe if we go again, that'd be a lot of fun.
But we go and my middle son, who at the time was two, I guess, yeah, it was two years.
I think he was two at that point.
He didn't really care about the White House.
He didn't really know what it was.
He didn't really understand who the president is.
But he didn't even care about rolling the eggs or eating the candy.
All he cared about was that he saw the guy in the bunny suit walking around the lawn.
And all he wanted all day, hey, buddy, you want to do this?
You want to do that?
And he said, no, no, I want to go see the bunny.
I take him up.
I want to see the bunny.
And it was like he was meeting Elvis.
It was like he was meeting the president.
He was so excited to meet the bunny.
And then afterward, anytime I'd go to Washington, D.C., or maybe if I were in D.C., if I were going to go visit the White House, I'd say, hey, buddy, I'm going to go visit the White House tomorrow, middle of the year.
He'd say, oh, yeah, Dada.
Are you going to go see the bunny?
So in his mind, the Easter bunny lives at the White House.
Anyway, I hope that we can take him again to go see the bunny.
Next question.
Hey, Michael, this is Jacob.
This is Jacob.
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Don't stop it.
I have a question.
So dating a woman of Latina descent, you know her, Destiny.
When she gets mad, she likes to punch me and hit me.
And as a man, am I allowed to strike back and defend myself?
Or do I just need, do I just need to take it?
Please let me know.
Bro, I don't.
Whatever you guys do, whatever you're into, whatever this is, I don't want to be involved in this.
Whatever little thing you guys have here, whatever thrill you, we're not.
I'm not, leave me out of this.
I don't want to be, this is getting weird.
I don't, I don't need to think about it.
I don't need to hear about this.
I don't, whatever.
Whatever you do, keep it to the confines of the Chimara.
All right.
No.
Next question.
Hi, Michael.
Gabrielle from Italy.
I subscribed to Daily Wire mainly for your show and Pope and the Fewer, great documentary.
Everyone should go and see that.
I know you have not read much fiction.
Andrew Clayton says that conservatives should and we should own it.
I would say particularly with fantasy, which has now become kind of gay and perverted.
But it started, let's not forget with C.S. Lewis and Tolkien.
Doesn't get any more conservative than that.
I'd like to give you three quotes from science fiction, the Space Trilogy by C.S Lewis, in particular the last book of the trilogy.
And you'll see they don't lack any philosophical meaning.
Actually, they have a lot of it.
And I would like to hear your thoughts about this.
And if you haven't read it, then it'll prove as proof of the importance of fiction.
The quotes are this one.
Yes, we must all be guarded by equal rights from one another's greed because we are falling.
Equality guards life.
It doesn't make it.
It is medicine, not food.
No one has ever told you that obedience, humility is an erotic necessity.
You're putting equality just for taught not to beat.
So this is talking about marriage.
And lastly, it is idle to point out to the perverted man the aura of his perversion.
Well, the fierce fetis on the door is the very spice of his craving.
It is ugliness itself that becomes, in the end, the goal of his lechery.
Beauty has long since grown too weak a stimulant.
Thoughts?
Wow, that's really good.
It's profound stuff coming from Italy.
I love that.
I don't read a lot of fiction anyway, but I don't read a lot of fantasy, even though I know I should because Tolkien and Lewis are great.
But that bit there at the end is so beautiful that it's ugliness itself that becomes the object of the pervert's lechery because beauty has long since lost its attraction as a stimulant.
In other words, beauty is too delicate.
It's too light.
It's light.
The angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly.
But for the pervert, it's not that he could not respond to beauty in any world.
It's that he's chosen through his disobedience to just blow out his dopamine receptors such that beauty doesn't really do it for him anymore.
It's got to get grotesque.
It has to be perverse.
It's ugliness itself that he seeks because of the absurdity.
You see this, obviously, especially in the sexual ideologies and behaviors, but you see this with all of the sins.
You see this When one turns even a virtue to an extreme to the point that it becomes a vice, over time, it's actually the ugliness that gives one a thrill.
That's what makes it perverse.
It's a great point.
And if one could just tone it back, hopefully give your, I don't know, to use the modern physical biological images that seem to resonate with people, if you just give your brain a little bit of time, those dopamine receptors to, I don't know, restore themselves, then you can come to appreciate the beauty again.
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And you will find the ugliness no longer attractive, but actually repellent.
Good point.
Grazie, grazie mile, Gabriele.
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