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Michael, do you think you deserve a soft A N-word pass?
I like standards.
I like taboos.
It's a little ghetto.
On my mother's side, I'm Sicilian and Calabrés.
And the Sicilians, kind of African.
Are you black?
Welcome to Yes or No, the bibulous battle to discover who knows whom better.
My guest today is Xavier de Rousseau.
Mont grand emi.
How do we play?
I will ask Xavier a yes or no question.
He will select his answer away from my prying eyes.
Then, I'll guess how he answered.
If I guess correctly, I get a point.
If I guess incorrectly, I lose a point.
No matter what, I will probably end up drinking.
Then, it's Xavier's turn.
Neither of us has seen the questions beforehand.
Whoever has the most points at the end wins.
The stakes could be higher.
Good to see you, sir.
Great to see you.
Thank you for making it into the studio.
Thanks for having me.
What are you drinking?
A French 75.
That is a marvelously civilized drink.
Right.
I'm having a little less, maybe a little bit of a sturdier drink, but less civilized, less graceful.
A martini.
Chin Chin to your health.
Look at that.
La Chaim.
Kevin LaHaim.
Kevin the bartender makes it very, very stiff and tall.
I'm very picky with my friend 75s, and this understood the assignment.
It did.
Wow, great.
Okay, now that you're a little liquored up, there's usually a wager.
Wager on the game.
Absolutely.
Do you have anything you're trying to bet me?
Because you and I have one thing in common.
A few things, but one major thing.
We're both barbs.
Huge barbs.
We love Nicki Minaj.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I want you to memorize a Nicki Minaj verse, record yourself wrapping it, and post it online.
Wow.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Apply.
In fact, I might do that if I win.
As you should.
Now, I've got a stiffer one for you.
Because you have that very interesting hair.
I don't have it.
Your hair is like a blank canvas, a tablo rasa.
Natural, by the way.
Yeah, I can tell.
I want you to imprint in die or in scissors my logo into your hair.
Okay.
That's a steeper one than the one you offered me.
You know what?
I'm more than happy to be a one-year-old.
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Go!
MK show, that's fine.
Okay.
You know the rules?
I do.
I don't.
Is Diddy a Fed?
I have to guess how you would answer.
So you lock in your answer and I'm going to guess.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, he's a Fed.
He's a Fed, right?
You are correct.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, now we get to drink.
He is.
Now, what does it mean?
Everyone's a Fed.
This guy's a Fed.
That guy's a Fed.
What does it even mean?
I mean, I understand the federal apparatus is very large and there are a lot of informants and things, but what does it mean for Diddy to be a Fed?
You know, when I say Fed, I feel like that means that you have some type of ties to powerful entities and the shadow government, essentially.
And when it comes to Diddy, he had way too many things going on for some high-level people to not know about it, let alone not be involved.
So for him to have gotten away with all of his nefarious behavior, which even I knew about, and I'm not even in that space, for me to know about it for all these years, it's like, okay, everything in the dark is coming to the light.
And I feel like he must have either ticked off the wrong person or was just the lowest hanging fruit amongst the feds.
But I really think it's because he got too sloppy and the feds had to cut him off and this is why he's getting exposed.
Interesting, yeah.
Because that, we have this idea he's a fed, like he's a double agent or something.
That's not usually the case.
But in any radical movement or criminal enterprise, whether it's the Black Panthers or the radical feminists or the neo-Nazis, whatever, any of these people, the federal government always kind of gets in there and often some of the big leaders, even prominent figures, are informing because the feds get something on him.
And they say, all right, well, if you, so with Diddy, it's not that Diddy is like men in black, he's being trained up at Langley or something.
It's just they got him on something and they say, all right, well, you're going to inform for us or you're going to point us in the right direction until the freak offs just, they run dry.
You got to arrest him.
They're all itching and burning in Los Angeles and Miami.
It is so nasty.
Yeah, it's gross.
I don't fully think Cassie's innocent either.
That's the wife or the girlfriend?
The girlfriend.
She's definitely a victim of a lot of abuse, but she's not innocent either.
I mean, come on.
It's like there comes a point where it's like, you are at this point an accomplice.
You're telling me you're sitting around watching all this abuse happen, all this alleged trafficking happening, and you for 10 years didn't say anything?
I can't believe you would victim blame like that.
Don't you know that women are always completely innocent and never do anything wrong?
Look.
According to the media?
I think there's a jail cell waiting for her, too.
Whoa.
Okay.
You're up.
Mr. Knowles.
Will Elon's falling out with Trump hurt Tesla stocks more than his original endorsement did?
You don't think that.
I do not think.
I was going back and forth, though, because Elon, it's kind of like his first campaign, it seems like.
I remember my first campaign when I was 19, except he's a billionaire, you know, super genius.
But it's like that first campaign where you make a few missteps.
And so for him, he had all these big companies.
He then signs up with Trump, which damages his companies.
So he alienates half of the customers.
Then he has a falling out with Trump in a particularly hostile way.
So then he falls out with other customers.
So at that point, you think, and he didn't even get the electric vehicle credit out of it.
So you think, okay, this guy made a lot of bad calculations for his businesses, though maybe ideologically he had the best intentions.
However, the reason I had to say no is they'll forgive you if you just turn on the right-winger.
They will forgive you.
They'll forgive a member of the Cheney family, Liz Cheney.
They'll forgive the Cheneys.
They called that guy Darth Vader.
They will forgive the Cheneys.
They'll forgive the Bushes.
Bush was Hitler too.
They'll forgive Adam Kinzinger.
I don't think anyone ever cared about.
But they'll forgive all these guys if you just turn on the right-winger.
And I think in a long enough timeframe, that will be true of Elon.
See, I feel like long term, there's some element to truth to that.
I think the left eventually does forgive you once you start drinking all the Kool-Aid that they want you to drink.
But I feel like it is always going to be more consequential to align with Trump than it's going to be to condemn Trump.
So because of the whole chaos that started when Elon started associating with Trump, I don't think it could get any messier for him with that.
So I don't think, one, that the left is all suddenly going to like him because he started beefing with Trump.
And I also don't think that the right is going to go out of their way to be against him either because at the very least he gave us X. Yeah, no, I'm not going to, I'm not against Elon.
I'm grateful to Elon.
It's like, the only thing I'm against with Elon is like his whole, you know, baby mama thing.
He has way too many baby mamas.
It's getting ghetto.
It's ghetto.
There's a phrase, classy when you're rich, trashy when you're poor.
And there are certain things, a buddy of mine was explaining this to me, like eating cheese for dinner is classy when you're rich, but trashy when you're poor.
Valid.
Having a ton of kids, classy when you're rich, trashy when you're poor.
So like, Elon kind of gets away with it.
But there's no question, conservatives say what we say accurately about family.
And we kind of gave Elon a little bit of a pass just because he's really helped us.
He's on the team.
You form coalitions of people who you don't agree with on everything.
And I agree.
I wouldn't turn on Elon over it.
I'm grateful for what he did.
But I don't know that other right-wingers won't.
I think that's why Elon tried to make up real quick.
See, I'm not anti-Elon at all, but seeing him as an African-American man, I really don't want him to be feeding into this father-absence stereotype.
And right now, it is just so out of consideration.
He's the consummate African-American in America.
No doubt about it.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Wow.
Because even Nick Cannon gets a lot of flack for all his kids, but at least it's like a somewhat logical order.
It's like you look at the chart of Elon's baby mamas, it's like he is going back and forth.
It is just too much.
Wow.
That's too much.
That's sort of, well, Genghis Khan.
You and I might both be descended from Genghis Khan.
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Before this prompt, we have to watch this video.
She got up.
Give me a break.
That driver did what they needed to do.
Yeah, okay, so well, here's the prompt.
This actually kind of helps me with you.
Oh, dang it.
Is this totally justified?
So, I'm going to answer for you before you even answer for me.
All right.
Well, not going to lie to you.
No doubt.
No doubt it's justified.
What would people say it wouldn't be justified?
Because they'll say, well, just whenever you're in a car, you don't have any right to, you know, it's like a guy walks out in the crosswalk.
You just always have to stop.
First of all, move.
Like, get out the way.
People have places to be.
Okay.
People have to go get the rent paid.
People need to go pick up their kids.
I'm like Elon.
People have things that they need to go do.
And why are you in the street?
And if you're stopping me from getting to where I need to go, I basically feel kidnapped.
And that's what you're not going to do to me.
So these people.
To me, that's more it.
Because it's like, what?
Look, I get angry.
Today, I don't know.
Twice a year I wake up on the wrong side of the bed.
I was irritated this morning.
I'm driving and these people are driving slow and I'm weaving around like I'm Vin Diesel on the drive to the office.
But that's one thing, like, oh, I got to get to work or whatever.
Another is, imagine you got a sick kid in the car, you're going to the hospital.
Or just imagine you just have your kids in the car and you have these lunatics who are threatening violence around you.
Sorry, lady, I'm hitting the accelerator.
Exactly.
And I'm totally justified in doing it.
It's illegal in certain places.
You know, I don't even have to be busy.
I can be by myself on the way to Pilates.
If you are in the way of my vehicle, you may just get hit.
You may just get hit.
They don't even need to threaten you.
But if they threaten to me, you know what I would say?
If they're threatening me, I'd say I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.
You know what I'm saying?
Ooh.
You know what I'm saying, man?
Fair enough.
I'm not going to risk my life.
That's a little wisdom from the streets.
All right, you're up.
I gave you that point.
Mm-hmm.
Mr. Knowles.
Mm-hmm.
So actually, we need to watch this video before the next prompt.
Can the black people of Los Angeles please stop stealing?
Because I just got racially profiled at a Nordstrom, and I can't even be fully mad at the sales rep because y'all are committing a disproportionate amount of crime.
Every time I see a video of a Nordstrom getting robbed, who is it?
What do they look like?
Again, it jumped out of me right there at the end.
What do they look like?
They Irish, aren't they?
Not quite.
Okay, so what's the problem?
So the question for you is, Michael, do you think you deserve a soft A N-word pass?
Do okay, and you have to guess how I would answer.
Yes.
I think you do.
You know why?
Hold on, before you So you think I think that.
I think that you think.
Before we get into whether you think I actually deserve the pass, why would I think that?
Well, I think that you think that because you're all about free speech.
And I mean, I feel like you shouldn't be gay-kept from saying certain words.
I like standards.
I like taboos.
I like politeness.
I like civilization.
I think there are certain people who shouldn't go around saying that word.
Why should I go around?
I think you're too classy.
I'm not saying that.
It's a little ghetto.
I deserved to be a little ratchet in that moment because I was pressed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can't blame them, but I just wanted Chelsea boots.
You know what?
You know what I say, the reason I should be able to say it, even though I might not say it, because though I have an Anglo side, the Knowles side, English, comes down from the Mayflower even part of the family, which is a great cigar company, the Mayflower Cigars.
But on my mother's side, I'm Sicilian and Calabres.
And the Sicilians, kind of African.
They're the Africans of Europe.
Are you black?
I might be, like, I'm not, I did the DNA test where they can, like, take your DNA and clock you or whatever.
And it says I'm not African, but I'm Sicilian.
And as Christopher Walken might ask in that movie, what's the difference?
I mean, if you round up, it's basically the same.
But I, okay, now do you think I should get the pass?
If you want one.
If I want one.
But do you think anyone should get the pass?
Like, it's just free speech, whatever.
Look, it's like black people have too much going on to be worried about what other people have to say.
I really don't care.
Now, I will say, like, white people, you have to be careful going around saying it with other black people because, you know, black people sometimes choose violence.
Me personally, it's like, why do I care?
The amount of unhinged things that I say, please, please.
And I'm 2% Chinese.
So it's like, I'm more worried about Asian business at this point rather than like this word and this black folk business.
I don't care.
I also prefer, I agree with you.
I don't like harsh racial slurs of any sort.
I really don't like that.
I find them nasty.
Black people, Mexicans, Jews, I don't like them.
But I do like whimsical racial slurs.
So I like, like, actually speaking of the Italian people, there's a slur among Italian Americans or black people.
And you know what it is?
What is it?
Can I say, I don't even know, I guess I'll say whatever.
Most people don't.
Moulignan.
They say moulignan.
Muli.
And moulignan refers to eggplant.
They call him eggplants, which is kind of funny.
It's not like that offensive.
It's not like you're calling him a terrible, evil person.
Just say the guy looks like an eggplant because his skin's darker.
Oh, I thought it was implying something with like BBC.
I was like, that is just so oversexual.
That's so flattering.
Well, thank you for that up of that.
Well, you know, the one that I'm pretty sure in Mandar, I don't know how to say it, but I'm pretty sure it's the same word for ghost as what they call black people in China.
Is what they call black people?
I think that's what they would call white people.
You would think, but it's like when you turn the lights off, you can't see us.
So it's like ghost.
That's what an old coworker of mine told me.
I don't know if he was just trying to cook me, low-key.
That's pretty good.
Okay, all right, that's pretty funny.
And you know what?
I totally would have believed if you were black because Knowles, Beyonce Knowles.
Yes, that's my cousin.
That's your cousin.
My cousin.
You kind of look alike in these twenty.
We do, and you go to see my dance moves.
Oh.
I taught her everything she knows, actually.
Wow.
At the old Knowles family reunions in Kennebunkport.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
So it wasn't Tina Knowles.
No, no, certainly not.
Actually, I sometimes get, on like Google Alerts and things, I get things intended for her father, because I think her dad's name is Matthew Knowles, but sometimes they write Michael.
I can confuse the two.
So anyway, all right, basically the conclusion is I can use whatever racial slurs I want.
Period.
Right, okay.
Because I am a black man.
All right.
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I'm up.
Everyone is welcome in the Republican Party, in particular Nicki Minaj fans.
However, we draw the line at liking sexy 2Xs.
Red 2Ds.
So barbs are in, but the sexy red fans are out.
Got to clear our buttons.
I sort of know who Nicki Minaj is, as you well know.
She did a song with Paul McCartney.
I have never heard of Sexy Red.
Did she do a song with Paul McCartney?
She did.
She did a song.
Oh, no, I'm thinking of Rihanna.
That's Rihanna.
That was Rihanna.
Other Caribbean.
Yeah, and Kanye did one with him, which is actually very good.
It's my favorite Kanye song.
Four or five Seconds?
No, that one's not that good.
What's the one?
Only one.
Only one's a Bob.
My only one.
That's a great song.
I'm clicking on the guitar.
It's nice.
Okay.
Well, I just confused.
Are they both Caribbean?
Rihanna and Nikki Minaj are.
They're both Caribbean.
Yeah, and they both low-key like Trump.
Yeah, all right.
Rihanna, too?
Oh, yes.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Well, until they started beefing, because then Trump came after Rihanna, which you never come after a bad gal like Riri.
Yeah.
Because that's just going to get ugly.
I would have advised him of that.
I would have said, don't ever, Mr. President, under any circumstances, go after a bad gal like Riri.
Right.
You have to move safely these days.
People are crazy.
Like, Rihanna will pull up on you in a Tri Long, cut you out.
For sure, dude.
I've said it for months.
So sexy red is different.
And I've got to figure out what you think about sexy red.
And the question again was sexy red fans or sexy red herself?
We draw the line at liking sexy red.
So it is the fans.
Specifically, no sexy red fans are allowed in the GOP.
Presumably sexy red, well, I assume sexy red likes herself.
So she would be included.
If she doesn't like herself, then she could be permitted in the Republican Party.
I would say you would say...
so I'm still thinking this out.
Everyone's allowed in, except for sexy red fans.
You would say, You are correct.
Who is Sexy Red?
So Sexy Red, basically a stripper with a long red wig, and she's a Hoochie mama.
I think she prides herself in having Hoochie Coochie is one of her, you know.
Gucci or Hoochie?
Gucci Coochie?
Yeah, hardware.
She prides herself in that.
So she is a very ratchet female who makes songs like Get It Sexy, Get It Sexy.
I don't know, you heard that.
Poundtown?
Oh, I listen to it all the time.
Have you ever heard of Poundtown?
That's my alarm clock, actually.
I wake up every morning.
Yeah.
And it goes like.
Poundtown just left Poundtown.
Her, you know, coochie is pink and her booty hole is brown.
You see the vision?
Don't think about it too much.
I'd like to spoon my mind's eye out, actually, after that vision.
Yeah.
You might have to repent if you go watch anything that she does.
But that being said.
I've got a lot of conversation right now.
Yeah, okay.
Hold on.
So she's, because do you remember, there was a girl like five years ago called Cupcake.
Do you remember her?
Cupcake a freak, Marilyn Monho.
Remember, she was like, I remember someone said, they're like, Michael, look at this person, Lizzo.
And I was like, man, those videos are obscene and disgusting.
And they're like, well, that's like Donna Reed compared to Cupcake.
And I looked at a cupcake thing on YouTube.
It was on YouTube, but it was like just porn, like really, really gross porn.
Objectively.
So you're saying sexy red is kind of like that.
So sexy red is like that.
She's very vulgar.
But the thing is, it's like when it comes to the GOP, we need every vote that we can't get these days.
It's like, I really don't care about how you live your life when it comes to elections.
Now, when it comes to the conservative movement, it's like, you know, there has to be a little bit of gatekeeping there.
Interesting.
A little bit of gatekeeping.
So would you say then for the voting, you would say, hey, neo-Nazis, Bolsheviks, I don't know, any like disreputable people, vote Republican.
We want you to vote Republican.
We just don't want you in the conservative movement.
This is going to sound insane, but I don't care if someone literally wants to enslave me personally when it comes to the election.
Totally.
I need you to vote the way that I need you to vote.
Because at the end of the day, I want my taxes low and I want the government out of my business.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Now, Sexy Red, she does love Trump.
I actually just met her.
Really?
We made amends because I've had a notorious beef with her and her friend, Sukiana, also known as, I think it's Suki with the good coochie is her name.
That doesn't even rhyme.
It doesn't.
It would be one thing if her name was Suchi.
Suchi?
But it's Suki.
It's Sukiyana the goat.
And you probably know Sukiya.
She was the one, what does she go viral for recently?
Oh, it was because someone asked her during an interview something about being a musician.
Mind you, she's a rapper.
And she's like, what does that mean?
Make magic or something?
And she's like, she was great.
Yeah.
She was great.
I actually loved her content.
Really?
Yes, I thought that whole bit, look, it was obviously scripted.
It was hilarious.
I think it was scripted.
I'm convinced it was scripted.
You can't convince me it wasn't.
Her intelligence is like five.
Like, like her IQ is like low-key five.
Is it like the bell curve meme where it's like the person with the zero IQ and the 200 IQ have the, they basically believe the same stuff?
Basically, I would be shocked if she wore shoes that weren't Velcro.
No shade.
Wow.
And that is Sexy Red's best friend, at least in the industry.
Okay.
And Sexy Red, I just met her recently and we made amends.
And, you know, I said to her, I'm like, okay, you know what?
You're going to do your thing.
You like Trump?
Yeah.
That's all that matters.
I'm like, just don't go.
Just at least, at the very least, don't go and push all this woke stuff that I know you don't believe in, sexy.
Yeah, and what did Sexy say?
She said, you know what?
I want to go to the White House, but you can't tell nobody, but I'm telling you.
You just told a bunch of people on the internet.
All Sexy Red does is lie and scam black people.
Really?
Okay.
Yes.
Wow.
Yes.
But you know, she was a sweet lady.
She also did say free Diddy.
That was crazy.
That was a little crazy.
She's very pro-diddy.
Yeah.
Not me putting her business out there.
I'm kind of shady for that, but I did what I had to do.
Wow.
She's pro-diddy.
Kanye's anti-diddy.
Correct.
Kanye's anti-Jewish.
Well, you should know.
Kanye is pro-diddy.
He's pro-Diddy.
I thought he called him a fed.
Yes, but he's still pro-diddy.
Pro-Diddy.
But Kanye is also pro-Trump.
But Trump is pro-Israel.
Right.
But Kanye is anti-Israel, and Sexy Red is friends with Coochimama.
Right.
The math is mathing.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Wow.
I'm dizzy.
And I've only had like five sips of this Bartini.
You're up.
Shout out to Sexy Red.
Hi, Sexy.
Funny.
I'm saying hello.
reparations would be worth the price if we never had to talk about race again I don't think you believe that at all.
I don't.
Why don't I believe it?
For a number of reasons.
Because first of all, we have to talk about race.
Because even if we pay reparations, which that's a hot mess within itself, because how are you going to differentiate of who deserves what and like who's actually the sense of slaves?
And it's just so unconscious.
Yeah, you think about some like Mexican who's half Spanish and half Quechua or something.
Well, what is he?
Is he oppressed or oppressor?
He's half and half.
Does he cancel out and he doesn't get a penny?
He's got to pay half.
He's got to get accepted.
What does he, it doesn't make any sense.
Right.
It's like it just doesn't make any sense at all.
But then the thing is, is even if we pay the reparations, we're still going to have racial issues, if we're being honest.
Why?
We're still, because so many demographics are out of control.
I mean, let's be so honest.
If we're talking about statistics speaking, it's like we have to talk about crime in the black community.
And we have to talk about why things like BLM should never come back again.
And yet, it's like the mindset is not going to leave.
Just because we're not talking about race doesn't mean that the mindset and the victim mentality and the poor illiteracy rates and all these different issues are ever going to go away.
Right, yeah, we talk About things as human beings.
And the other reason is race is good.
Races are good.
We have a diversity of life.
This was given to us by God in Providence.
And it's good.
It's kind of interesting.
I like the variety and the spice of it.
I like I can travel and see different peoples and have different customs.
And actually, I go even further.
There's nothing wrong with having a special affection for your own family, first of all, and your own community, and even your own race.
Joe DiMaggio, you know, the Italians, Joe DiMaggio hits a home run.
It's fine for the Italian Americans to say like, ah, add a boy, Joe.
You don't want that to be taken to, you know, be cruel or to hate other races, you know, just like you wouldn't want to take your special love of your family to mean that you hate other families or something like that.
But there's nothing wrong with having a kind of a special affection for people who are like you.
Exactly.
And it's like, there's also just cultural things that are just difficult to explain to other cultures because I can only argue so much with white people about why you're supposed to rinse off your chicken before you cook it.
Yeah, do you rinse your chicken?
Yes!
What is wrong with eating clean meats?
Yeah, wow.
But doesn't it, I don't know anything.
I mean, I don't cook chicken, but Alisa cooks chicken.
And I don't, and I know, I know actually one white person who will bleach her food before she, a little bit.
See, that's why I don't eat at everybody's house, because that's just insane.
But the argument is, is people are like, they say two things.
They'll say that when you rinse the chicken, it spreads the salmonella.
Oh, yeah, I've heard that.
It's like, so you're telling me that you don't clean your sink after you're done cooking is what I'm here for.
Or you just eat the salmonella, but I guess you cook it.
Well, then that's the other part, is they say that you cook it and it kills the salmonella, but it's like, okay, but it doesn't kill the fact that this chicken was dropped on the floor, kicked around, thrown back on the conveyor belt.
Sometimes you'll see a little hair, a little dirt, a little, you know, well, not at the places I shop.
I go to Air One.
If you're going to Erewhon, that is like the fancy, that's some nice, that's like Gavin Newsom grocery store.
Mr. Knowles, now you and I both know that it's not the case.
I'm in more outside of Prager U than at Prager U. Let's be so real.
Those nonprofit dollars don't go that far, okay?
You make it great point.
Oh, Yomis has got me a call from HR.
Yeah, no, you make a great point.
No, but okay, so I agree.
The different cultural practices are great.
And like, there's no, I don't know, like this whole idea, if only we could not talk about race anymore, I think, why do we not want to talk about race?
And you know what?
It's important to talk about race too because we have to talk about history.
And talking about race doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.
I hate talking about black history.
There's such a stick, I hate that, I hate what Black History Month has become.
Black History Month has become this like constant peddling of victim oppression.
Yeah, like all of that type of stuff.
And it's like until the day I die, the black American story is going to be what we did to overcome adversity and how far we have come as a society.
Because you have over 2 million black millionaires in America today.
You have so many self-made black billionaires.
You have all this black excellence that's worth talking about.
When I teach my kids and grandkids one day about the black American story, I'm going to say, this is how it started and this is how far we've come.
That's a beautiful thing.
So we should be able to talk about that for various demographics, especially when we're talking about American history.
So no, talking about race isn't always a bad thing.
Yeah, okay, that's great.
But reparations is ghetto.
Yeah, it is.
And it's completely unworkable.
All right, I totally agree.
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Okay, now this is the rapid fire round.
Okay, now remind me.
So I just constantly go with like no time to think, basically.
Full send.
No time to think.
I'm going to go three right in a row, and you go, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Two, boom, boom.
Three, boom, boom.
Maybe we'll drink a little bit along the way.
Okay.
Is it okay to racially profile?
Yes.
Yes.
Is there at least some evidence that the Earth might be flat?
I should have guessed yes.
God, man, I was gonna.
Oh, man, all right.
Is Black History Month worse than Pride Month?
Ooh.
Ooh.
No?
Yeah.
It's out.
Man, I should have.
As I'm pushing him, like, oh, man, I blew it on the flat earth.
Okay.
Oh, what's the evidence?
Okay, I'm not saying that the Earth is flat necessarily.
No, you're just saying there's some evidence.
There's at least a little that it might not be fully round either.
Okay, hear me out.
Okay, okay.
I am not a flat earther.
Uh-huh.
That's like the preface that a flat earther makes.
Well, no, I'm not.
Oh, no.
This is what they do when the people who think vaccines like turn the frogs gay.
They're like, no, I'm not anti-vaccine.
I just think they're all bad for you and turn your frogs gay.
Look.
Okay, so what's the, you're not a flat earther, but.
I think I'm at the point where I will entertain, at least entertain, almost any conspiracy.
And there was a colleague I had years ago that would spend hours a day, because we were so bored of that job, hours a day telling me all the reasons why he thought that the Earth was flat.
And I think majority of it is idiotic.
I really do.
But I am just so jaded and blackpilled about all the things that we've been lied about.
It's like, again, I don't necessarily know if the Earth is flat, but at least it could possibly not be fully round.
Yeah, you're saying it could be ovular.
It could be.
Or conical, probably.
be, because you know what, in retrospect, because, you know, I had to do the rapid fire, I probably should have said no, because now people are going to He's just said he might have said no.
I said might.
It's awful.
That's awful.
Okay.
But I don't know.
It's just, I don't trust anything anymore.
So.
I get that.
It's like, it's one of these things where I think like, what's the most based thing to think?
And then you sort of, like on the flat earth thing, in a way you think, well, the flat earth, that's the most base, trad, classical thing to think.
But actually, the flat earth really is an idea more from the Enlightenment and the Renaissance, or really post-Renaissance Enlightenment, that is mocking people in the supposed dark ages who supposedly thought the Earth was flat, even though we've known the Earth is spherical since antiquity.
So you're like, okay, well, hold on, that's like a fake out.
That's like a reverse Uno trad idea, because it's actually kind of modern.
And there are all these things that are kind of like that.
But in any case, I'm just trying to coke because I lost the point.
You're up.
I lost the button.
Because at this point, it's like, I don't even think the moon landing happened.
You don't?
I think that's a lie.
That's a good question.
Maybe that's a good question.
You know what?
Let me not do too much.
Rapid fire.
Will Republicans hold either the House or Senate in 2026?
Hold on.
Either the House or Senate?
So if they hold one, then the answer is yes.
Correct.
Okay.
Should Justin Bieber.
No, no, no.
Did I get a right or wrong?
Did he get a right or wrong?
He got it right.
Okay, I think maybe the Senate.
At least one of them.
Should Justin Bieber be in a conservatorship?
Yes, he should.
You think he should?
Oh, wow.
Probably he should.
Probably he should.
I kind of agree.
I didn't think he would be for it.
I think probably he should.
Yeah.
Is dyed blonde hair cultural appropriation?
Wow.
I don't think you can.
Yes, it is.
What?
It's appropriating the culture of the early 2000s.
That's what it is.
You know what the T on that is?
It's because as a kid, I always wanted frosted tips.
Yes.
You cannot have convinced me I wasn't a pop star.
My mother, in about 2001 or something, I was like 11 years old, my mother said, Michael, because all the kids, we're talking like, in some cases, you know, manly kids, but they got, not like that.
You just kind of dyed the whole thing.
I'm talking frosted tips.
And she was like, do you want to get frosted tips this summer?
I was like, no.
Like, I don't, I've had the same haircut since I was six.
I've had the exact same haircut since I was six.
I believe that.
Yes.
And before that, at age five, it was just slightly more to the side, but it was almost the same haircut.
Wow.
Yes.
So I could not, but I remember that period, those Halcyon days of the early 2000s.
And that's what you're appropriating.
Wow.
So who won?
Oh no, it's the final.
Hold on.
You know what it is?
It's time for the final round.
Oh, goodness.
Remind me how this works.
Yeah, I wish I could.
I think I pull this up, I pull up a final question.
We guess on our pin pads, or we answer on our pin pads how we would answer that question for ourselves, and we guess with our drinks, and then we're going to move the drink based on how we think the other person would answer.
Final round.
Should gay men be allowed to adopt children?
How would you answer?
Correct?
Correct.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Okay.
All right.
You know, last one.
It's just one of those things.
You just can't do it.
Yeah.
You just can't.
It's like.
Kids need their mom.
I am a little more classically liberal in the sense of like when it comes to saying.
Francisco Franco is more classically liberal than I am, but yes.
You think you have these, you know, open, more open-minded views?
Because when it comes to marriage, I'm a little bit more classically liberal on that because I view that there's a difference between biblical marriage recognized by God and the American systemic institutional contract of a marriage.
Which no longer exists.
Basically.
So it's like, okay, I can accept that.
But when it comes to the adoption, there's just something so You know, let me not get kicked off YouTube about it.
And it's not right.
It's not right.
Kids need their moms.
Yeah, they need their moms.
That's it.
Yeah.
Or their dads.
Or their dads, right.
I'm not saying lesbians can do it either.
Yeah.
I agree.
Elon needs to be president.
Nice question.
You got it out.
You've got it out for you.
Please stop.
Okay.
Now we've got to clear your answer.
Okay.
Final question.
In 2025, between being black, Christian, conservative, or a Zionist, likely Israel draws the most attacks online.
Hmm.
I think.
This could be the game.
I think you would say yes.
I think you would say no.
I would say yes.
Damn it.
The Zionists would.
Hold on, did I get his right?
You did.
I did.
Let's go.
Yes, certainly.
I don't know that that would have been the case three years ago.
But now it is, because the left has been anti-Zionist for decades at this point.
And certainly the popular left, if not the establishment left.
Now some of the establishment left is anti-Zionist, and parts of the right are anti-Zionist.
I mean, I guess in principle I'm not a Zionist in that I don't agree with the religious or historical claims of Zionism, but I'm broadly supportive of Israel, which is...
But now, that's like the Z word.
It's like you just call it anybody.
It's like what neocon used to be.
Both often referred to Jews, I'm noticing.
But it's like you just be, you're a Zionist, you're a neocon.
The word almost doesn't seem to have a concrete meaning anymore.
But I think today, much more so than if you say I'm Christian, I'm a white guy, I'm a black guy.
I think so, right?
I have to agree.
You know, if it were a few years ago, I don't think that would have been the case.
I think there always would have been some sentiment of people being annoyed, but then and low-key still now, people didn't even know what Zionist meant back in the day.
But now it's like, I get grief for everybody.
People don't know what it means now.
I mean, when I say I'm not a Zionist, It's because I don't agree with the political ideology of Theodore Herzl.
It's not that I don't have a kind of broad affection or support for the state of Israel or because I don't like Jews or something like that.
Which is, I think, when people use that word now, they're basically saying, like, yeah, just like Jew or like you guy who doesn't hate Jews or whatever.
Like, that's not what the word means, but it's just come to take that on.
It's one of those words that's just so overexposed.
It's like people have no idea.
But, you know, I get flack just like, you know, dude, for everything that I say online.
Like, I could say the sky is blue today and people are going to be mad at me.
But the level, the intensity of the hatred that I get.
But you would call yourself a Zionist.
I am a Zionist.
You know, and I don't necessarily agree with Herzl's ideology either.
He was very, very progressive.
But I do very much stand with, you know, the premise of why Israel is.
You would say the Jewish people as a people, as a tribe, have an eternal right to the Holy Land.
I do believe that.
And the amount of hate that I get, the amount of death threats that I get, it's a different level of intensity.
When did you come to...
And I have a sort of personal affection for Jews because I grew up in New York and Los Angeles and I like a good bagel.
Shout out to the Jews.
But I don't, you know, being a Catholic, I don't think there's some like special legal right that the Jewish people have as an entity to, you know, an eternal claim to this land.
I think they fought a war, so that's one right to land.
They had a UN Declaration.
They had the Balfour Declaration.
So it's like, I think there are all these kind of practical political rights.
But I wouldn't, you know, ideologically, I don't really buy it.
But were you always a Zionist?
You know, I didn't really have too much of an opinion on what was going on there before 2023.
So how it really started was in June of 2023, I went just on vacation there.
I just wanted to go see the Christian sites.
I wanted to go see Tel Aviv, go see Jerusalem, go do it all.
And I got so much hate just for being there.
And then I didn't know that anti-Semitism was still a thing.
Like, I didn't grow up around a lot of Jews.
I grew up in central Illinois.
So it was like the two kids in my school were Jewish.
One I didn't even know was Jewish until he reached out to me thanking me for what I say now.
I'm like, you're Jewish.
Wait, hold on, Shlomo Schmuelie Stein, you're Jewish?
I had no idea.
I didn't see the stein there.
Like, I had no idea.
So I got all this hate just for being there when I said that I was there on Twitter.
And when I asked my Jewish friends, I'm like, this is still happening?
And they're like, oh, yes.
I'm like, oh.
So then I looked deeper into it.
I'm like, a lot of the people who hate Jews, like really, it has nothing to do with Israel.
It's just they're broke, bitter, and ghetto and jealous.
And they're like, oh, well, Jews are so successful.
It's like, okay, well, go get a job.
Okay.
It's like, why are so many Jewish people successful?
Choices.
Why are so many black people criminals?
Choices.
Like, just being objective about it, you made the choice, pick a struggle.
So one of my first walk with me, since I do this series with my air one smoothies and everything, one of my first ones was about how anti-Semitism is ghetto.
And when October 7th happened, I was baffled by how quickly the narrative switched online.
Like before the day had even ended, people were denying that October 7th happened, saying that Israel deserved it, all this stuff.
So then at that point, I'm like, well, you know what?
I'm just really going to start airing my piece about how I feel about this conflict.
So I really accidentally, like very organically, I guess is a better word, would say that I just ended up adopting this massive Jewish following and becoming really well known in Israel.
I didn't expect that to happen.
I just thought that people were being ghetto online and I called it out like I do everything else.
Yeah, so that happens sometimes.
I mean, is you get exposed to someone and you say like, well, all right, whatever.
I'm not that.
Whatever the opposite of like that thing that I find ugly is, I totally agree.
I have the least popular opinion, which is that I'm broadly supportive of the Israel and I like the Jews, but I also don't like agree with the premises of Zionism.
So everyone has a reason to attack me?
It's like, oh, are you allowed to say that?
Yeah, I know.
You're certainly not.
But, okay, before I let you go, the moon landing.
You said you brought it up, and I didn't know if it was going to be in the final round, but.
A lie from the pit of hell.
There is no way.
What?
Please.
Please.
Because why can't we go back?
We didn't even have cell phones back then.
That was the mid-1900s.
And you're telling me that they made it all the way to the moon.
Gail King could barely get to space and come back.
And you're telling me that we went to the moon.
I just don't believe it.
Is it possible, though?
Because you're saying basically now we can't do a thing.
And we used to be able to do a thing.
So that's implausible.
But I think that's true about a lot of things.
Like we used to be able to do philosophy really well in like the Middle Ages.
And now we're philosophically idiots.
So is it, you know, we used to be able to have true religion and worship.
And now we're like, God is a spaghetti monster, whatever nonsense they say on Reddit.
So it's like, is it possible that we just got worse at something?
You know, there is an element of truth to that, but the reason that I feel like people, there's a few reasons why people are getting dumber.
It's social media, it's artificial sugars and pornography are frying people's brains.
So that's why we have fewer intelligent people that are in the world.
But we still have brilliant minds out there.
And you know, it's like, have any other nations been to the moon yet?
You're telling me that China and Russia don't want to go to the moon?
Why wouldn't they have said it was a hoax?
Why wouldn't the Soviet Union have said it's a hoax?
The world is being just ruled by satanic globalists who want us all to be dirt poor and eat bugs.
So when it's all said and done, it's like there's probably some type of handshake of like, you don't put my business out there and I'm not going to put your business out there.
Because there's a lot of things that I'm sure that America knows about these other nations that they haven't put out there.
Well, it's blackmail all the way down.
It's blackmail.
It's Diddy Nomics.
It's Diddy.
On a global level.
So hold on, did I win?
I have to dye my hair with the MK.
No, let's go.
Oh, what?
Final score 8-2?
What?
No.
A lie.
Who are you doing the math?
I'm getting the, that is some common core math.
That's what that is.
So I'm getting the MK logo in your hair.
First of all, Nicki Minaj, sweetie, I am so sorry that I let you down.
I'm sorry, Barbs.
Shout out to the Barbs.
Well, well, hey, everybody, the least I can do is point out that you should go check out more of Xavier's content.
Like this.
Why can't we let everyone in?
Our border is not your mother.
Mass deportations separate families.
Well, so does baby mama culture.
Mind you, y'all can leave together.
Who's going to clean Trump's toilets?
People with birth certificates.
What did I see at the border?
50 shades of brown and a ditty casting call.
Refugees are fleeing communism.
Actually, they're just bringing communism here.
The process takes too long.
They'll then tell people to stop swimming here, and the process would be smoother.
A wall isn't going to stop anything.
Boundaries always help.
Try it with your ex.
No one is illegal on stolen land.
Okay, little miss.
Swiper, no swiping.
I really, I really like.
Anytime I say anything, I just wanted to say, you show.
Like, I think I'd have the brand Xeno, please.
You know, like, yeah, wow, okay.
Right now, go check out that content on YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok at Xavier.
How do you spell the handle for the people out there?
You know, it's an error on my birth certificate, but my mom liked it, so she kept it.
Yes.
It is X-A-V-I-A.
A-E-R.
So put the A in there.
That's like when I go to Starbucks, I am, in every walk of my life, I'm Michael, M-I-C-H-A-E-L.
But when I'm in Starbucks, I am almost always M-I-C-H-E-A-L.
That is the Starbucks spelling.
It's those damn gender-neutral gender study master's degree in gender studies Barice does.
I get you.
But I love them.
But I'll tell you what, I love them.
I love them.
Starbucks is one of the greatest corporations.
I don't care if they hate me.
Oh.
It's one of the greatest corporations.
All that sugar?
I don't, whatever.
You get black coffee.
I get black coffee.
Oh, okay.
But I just love it.
I don't care if they, even if they hate me when I walk in, it's fine.
I have a buddy, too.
Daniel is one of his names.
And on the birth certificate, it was spelled, it was an error.
It was A-A-E-L.
Daniel.
Ert-A-L, I guess.
He kept it.
He just kept it.
Wow.
Just like you, Xavier.
There you go.
So anyway, go there on all the social media platforms.
