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May 18, 2024 - The Michael Knowles Show
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Michael Knowles Vs @LibsofTikTok: FACE-OFF

Get ready for an explosive episode of FACE-OFF, hosted by Michael Knowles, featuring Chaya Raichik, the creator of @LibsOfTikTok. Who knows more about woke libs? Find out now! - - - Today’s Sponsor: PureTalk - Get 50% off your first month! http://www.PureTalk.com/Knowles

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Gen Z, 20.8%.
Look at that.
How do you like that?
That's almost the exact number I gave.
What they're saying is 72% of that group are saying we're heterosexual.
Hold on.
Wait, it is now gayer than one in five?
That can't be real.
The libs have gone wild and it's no longer confined to the red light districts of Portland.
It's being spread all over the Senate hearing room floor.
It's going topless on the White House lawn and maybe most disturbingly, All of this degeneracy is being posted all over TikTok.
Now, who would know more about this phenomenon on TikTok than the person who made their name covering such clips?
Michael Knowles, whose whole show is basically reacting to clips from Lives of TikTok.
But does he know more about woke lingo, culture, and degeneracy than Kaja Rejcik, who is actually Lives of TikTok?
We're going to find out in this episode of Face Off.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you for having me on my own show, Ben.
And Kaya, thank you very much for coming on.
I can't tell who has more of an advantage on this, because you obviously are the source of all of these great Lib videos.
But I shamelessly steal them every single day, and you end up writing like a third of my show.
So I can't tell.
I might have spent more time with your content than you have.
I, I sometimes I have to do so much research into this stuff.
And when you like, there's so many genders and sexualities and stuff.
I sometimes have to watch a video literally 25 times.
I'm not even exaggerating before I post it.
Cause it's so freaking confusing.
And I mean, the definitions change daily and there's new, there's new flags and new terms every single day.
It's so hard to keep up.
So I'm a little nervous.
I got to say.
It was extremely confusing coming up with each question for this episode, but what's not confusing are the instructions for how we're going to play Face Off.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
Yeah.
Question one.
What is a turf?
We thought we'd warm up with an easy one, you know, get the ball rolling.
Ten seconds.
This is taking Michael a long time.
Yeah, you might have an advantage on this one.
All right, Kai, what do you got?
Trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
I have the same answer, but I, here I'll get it on camera, but I also drew a little picture of a witch at the top for J.K.
Rowling, because she's probably the most famous one.
I mean, maybe you get two points for that, I don't know.
You are both correct, point for both.
Yeah, I don't think you get points for extra pictures.
Do I not?
Especially not that picture.
All right, number two.
What is a demiboy?
Is it A, a gender identity for someone who identifies fully as a boy but is exploring other gender expressions, B, a gender identity describing someone who is partially but not wholly identifying as a boy, C, a historical title given to a young nobleman in medieval societies, or D, a young Jewish man who watches Star Wars and has a bad taste in music?
Did you not catch that, Michael?
No.
Who do you know that is a young Jewish boy who watches Star Wars and has a bad taste in music?
Oh, I couldn't tell if it was like... I couldn't tell if it was a Shapiro jab.
But no, it's a Professor Jacob.
Because Ben's not that young anymore.
He's turned 40.
He's an adult now.
You're right.
Professor Jacob is a demiboy.
But even still, I might put down a different answer.
Is Ben in Star Wars?
Ben?
Yeah.
He actually is in Star Wars.
I never watch Star Wars and I actually put out a poll on Twitter yesterday if I should watch it or not and I think I'm going to be forced to watch it now because everyone's voting yes.
The first movie is fine.
The second movie is kind of fun and maybe better and then pretty much all the other ones are terrible like the other 57 movies that they've made but the first two are kind of fun.
All right.
Let's see it.
We have A, B, C, or D. I say B. Me too.
That's correct.
It is B. Not Professor Jacob.
Not Professor Jacob.
That's correct.
Because obviously, it's like a demigod, you know?
It's not a god who's exploring other states of being.
It's someone who's like half this and half that, you know?
And Ben Shapiro has a great taste in music.
He's a great producer of music.
Yeah.
But it's true, number one rap artist.
Oh, yeah!
All right, number three.
How many colors were on the original Pride flag in 1978?
This actually changed because of manufacturing reasons on the flag.
Ten seconds.
Are you done, Michael?
I'm done.
All right, what do you got?
I say four.
Six.
The answer is eight.
So, neither one of you guys got a point.
See, when you said manufacturing reasons, I assumed it was just hard for them to print all the different colors, and so it was a smaller number.
Well, yeah, the original Pride flag had more, and so they changed it later because it had too many.
Oh!
So what does it got now?
I think now it has six, and then Chai was right.
But the original one had eight, hot pink for sex, of course, red for life, orange for healing, yellow for sunlight, green for nature, turquoise for art, indigo for harmony, and violet for spirit.
Wow, turquoise for art.
Well, I got half a point because I was half right.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
1978.
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Number four, what is systemic oppression?
Is it A, a term used to describe big tech companies limiting or removing all the best content posted on certain social media channels?
B, the experience of repeated widespread discrimination by individual members of society without any backing of institutional system?
C, a policy implemented by governments to segregate or limit the freedom of specific groups based purely on temporary conditions?
Or D, the institutionalized prejudice rooted in historical inequities that affects certain groups across all levels of society, including political, social, and economic.
Man, this is a tricky one.
This is a tricky one, man.
This might be the official definition according to who?
Google.
Oh.
They're getting wordier and wordier with these.
I say, D. D. D. That is correct.
Man, we're tight.
Is this 3-3 now?
What is it?
3-3.
3-3.
It's gonna be a good one.
There is a tie break at the end, so don't worry.
We've had that happen before.
What if we both get that one right, too?
That's not gonna happen.
It's one of those Star Wars questions, you know?
There's no way you're gonna get it.
Oh, but I've never watched Star Wars, so I'm screwed.
Alright, number five.
What does this flag represent?
Can I ask a question?
Sure.
Does this have to do with gender, or it's a different topic?
It involves stuff, which is how all this stuff... Okay, well that actually changes my answer.
Oh man, I just helped him.
Okay.
Russian black pie.
I think.
Okay, I just wrote furries, and I made a little animal.
I don't know, something with furries, animals.
That is a great guess.
Fortunately, neither one of you guys got it right.
The answer is, it's the polyamory pride flag.
The polyamory.
Pie.
So is the pie, is it because it's, because polyamorous orgies are irrational?
Is that, is that why?
Like, why, where is the pie coming?
I actually thought that might be the reason why.
Makes more sense than what I can guess there.
Is it maybe because when you have someone bend himself over into a complete circle, and then you try to insert another person in the orgy as the diameter, that when you try to divide the two, you end up with pi?
Is that it?
Or did I just put that image in your head for no reason?
Michael, we're trying to stay on YouTube.
Why do you keep doing this?
Got it.
Okay.
Now I'm going to have to think about this all day.
Yeah, and I don't want to, but I might have to also.
Yeah.
All right, number six.
According to Pew Research, what state is the most lib?
What has the highest percent of the population is liberal?
Good question.
It's not the most populous in terms of libs.
You're saying the highest percentage of liberals.
Okay.
This is a tough one.
Time.
Massachusetts?
Oh my God!
You guys both got it right!
No one else at the entire Daily Wire office got that right.
No, you know why?
Because, you know, everyone wants to say Oregon or something, but Oregon is conservative.
It's just Portland, which is liberal.
And we're like, Washington, Seattle is liberal, but the rest of it's conservative.
So, but Massachusetts, everyone's a lip.
No, there are like no conservatives except for the three people that voted for Scott Brown in 2010.
Exactly.
I have the exact same thought.
And people say they think California, but it's only LA and San Francisco.
Or New York, but it's only New York City.
Everything else is not.
And I post so much about Massachusetts.
It might be the number one.
And I'm like, I know Massachusetts.
Yeah.
What's crazy about it is it's only 36 or 38 percent, which is, that's shocking, that is the highest one, but there are several states that are 50 percent conservative.
And only like four or five states have more liberals than conservatives, which is crazy that, you know, a lot more elections aren't won by conservatives if that's the case.
That's always the way it is though, but the conservatives are kind of, because they're conservative, because they're just normal and content and happy, they're less politically engaged.
It's always the minorities, the concerted political minorities, like the Bolsheviks.
Bolshevik meaning like the majority, but it was really a small number of people.
But they're always the ones who win the revolutions.
So you get up to 40% or whatever in Massachusetts, you're done, you're toast.
Yeah, there's not even anything, like messages, it's a lost cause.
There's nothing we can do there.
Alright, on that Blackpill moment, what is queerbaiting?
Is it A, what is queerbaiting?
Queerbeating?
It's what happens, you know, when the conservatives come to power.
I'm joking, YouTube, I'm joking!
Joey, it's a joke.
Like B-A-I-T?
Yeah, kind of like fishing.
Queerbaiting.
Not B-A-I-T.
I wasn't sure.
Okay.
I don't want to know what queerbeaving would be.
I don't know why that image in my head.
I'm sure there's a website for it.
I'm sure it'll be featured soon on all those on TikTok.
Is it A, a marketing strategy that includes exclusive LGBTQ content to appeal directly to that demographic?
Is it B, the practice in media and entertainment of hinting at, but not actually depicting, same-sex romance or LGBTQ plus themes to attract an LGBTQ plus audience?
Is it C, a genre of literature that focuses primarily on LGBTQ plus characters and stories?
Or D, Doing a soft shoe dance routine in your show's cold open.
You know, you won't give me the point for it, but there's a clear answer here.
Obviously.
And you won't give me the point, but it's okay.
When you asked the question, I was thinking, I was like, what could that word possibly mean?
And that was what I was thinking of.
That was the answer that I came up with.
But I know you won't give me the point for it.
Okay.
Who made up this term?
The left?
I think it's the left.
I've heard the word before, though I've never heard it.
Like I, I've never heard the definition of it exactly, but I think it's the libs who, like the libs use the word angrily.
They use it.
Such and such as queerbaiting.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
This is, this is, this is tough.
I might, I might, this might be where we split our topic.
This is where, okay, I'll take it.
All right, Michael, what do you got?
I say B. Oh, I was between A and B.
What'd you draw there?
Oh, it's a little dancing with a martini on a desk.
Just, it was kind of hedging my bets, you know?
I feel ya.
It actually, you didn't need to, because the answer is B. Michael takes the lead.
They're hinting at it, but not willing to commit, you know, so it's queer betting.
This was actually a term that came up during our interview with Nala Ray, where she talked about, on a website that we can't mention on YouTube, how straight men will pretend a certain way to attract more viewers who are homosexual.
That's right.
We call, in the conservative movement, we call it the old Bill Buckley approach, you know, which is why a little bit, a little ethos, a little thumos we take from that.
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Alright, number 8.
What is a chaser?
Chaser.
Chaser.
One of the, there's a transvestite at Media Matters who I think called me that one time, but I don't know exactly.
I'm like questioning everything I've been doing the past few years because I don't think I've ever been called that.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's this one, you know the one, I won't say his name on air, but he, you know, there's that one transvestite at Media Matters and he gets paid to watch our content, but he called me that, I think.
So I don't, I assume it means a devilishly handsome Sicilian.
Well, we'll see if it's one of the answers here.
Is it number A, a person who is primarily attracted to individuals because they belong to a specific marginalized group?
Is it B, a term used to describe someone who actively seeks relationships with people significantly younger than themselves?
C, a nickname for someone who participates in competitive dating or relationship games.
Or D, an attention seeker who spends their time doxing while also trying to keep their own anonymity by covering their face with medical masks in public in 2024.
For example, Taylor Lewens.
There's a lot of terms I would use to describe Taylor.
Most of them will probably get censored on YouTube.
But I don't think Chaser's one of them.
When I was a kid, this will date me, but when I was a youth, a Chaser was that little shot of pickle juice you'd have after the whiskey.
You know what I'm talking about?
You remember that?
I don't do whiskey.
I don't like whiskey.
On social media, I mean, it's like Chaser, you know, that's a term that's used.
It's like a Twitter slang, Chaser.
I mean, when I was a kid, we used Chaser, I guess, when we played tag.
Yeah, that's true.
This is not quite as wholesome as that.
Yeah.
Ten seconds.
People ask me, I say Chaser, I hardly know her.
Okay, I think we've exhausted all of the puns and synonyms, or homonyms, I suppose.
Can I say homonym on air, or is that homophobic?
Unless YouTube updates its guidelines, you're fine.
I said the first one.
I kind of gave it away, right?
That's correct.
I shouldn't have given it away.
Maybe I would have pulled ahead.
You're ahead, you're winning me by one point.
I am?
You are still currently ahead by one point.
Oh, okay, alright, great.
Yes, there's a lot of pressure right now here.
Okay.
Alright, what is a femme?
Is it A, someone whose gender expression is feminine, B, a style of fashion characterized by exaggerated femininity often used in theatrical performances or drag shows, C, a type of behavior in social interactions that emphasizes gentleness and empathy traditionally associated with female gender roles, or D, a dance style that involves fluid, graceful movements often performed in heels and traditionally associated with female dancers.
This is the first really hard one, because they're so similar.
In a way, I want to do C, just because we haven't had any C answers yet.
This is a really tricky one, because they're... Yeah.
I got my answer.
Okay.
All right, what do you have?
A. Wow, it is A!
There we go.
Someone whose gender expression is feminine.
Because it, you know, it was the most general.
And then I always think, you know, the thing that they do is they say, you know, like, I'm a demi-trans, you know, queer, homo, boy, girl.
And you're like, what does that mean?
And they have some gobbledygook, and you try to pin it down.
You say, wait, so you're a boy in a dress?
Well, you don't have to wear a dress.
Like, okay, you're a boy who that thinks you want to wear a dress or you don't have to want to wear a dress.
And it's all, anytime, anytime you try to pin it down, they say, well, you don't have to do that.
And so I figured go with the most general one, which is like, you kind of feel vaguely feminine.
So there it is.
Yeah.
I've, I've just, I've seen dozens of tech talks where they're like showing off how they look and they're like, oh, I'm a femme girl or I'm a femme boy.
Um, So I actually kind of knew that one, that it was referring to dress and looks in general.
All right, well, getting off the stuff for a minute.
Yeah.
Number 10.
According to the Guttmacher Institute, which two states are tied for being the most pro-abortion?
You get one point for each.
This is Guttmacher.
This is Planned Parenthood's think tank.
Guttmacher.
The most pro-abortion.
Terms that share numbers or proportionality?
No, like the most laws in favor of, like the most crazy protections.
Oh, okay.
I'll list you the protections after we get here.
Oh!
Got it.
Okay.
Yeah, not like most abortions happen there, just the craziest laws to help with that process.
The two, the top two?
Yeah, so you can guess two.
What if we get, like, one right and one wrong?
Do we get half points?
No, you'll get one point for each.
One for each.
Okay.
Alright.
Two stakes.
I got my third.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
Okay, I'm going back to my first.
Okay.
Alright, let's see what we got.
Okay.
California and Illinois.
Oregon and New York.
I have a little hair gel there for Gavin Newsom.
According to the Guttmacher Institute, the two correct answers were Oregon and Vermont.
Vermont, okay.
I knew it was Oregon.
Oregon, you can kill a baby up until the moment of birth, like without question, basically.
I know Alaska has a lot of abortions, but I don't think the laws, I don't think it's a matter of their laws just being super liberal.
I think it's also just cultural practice.
New York, though, you can kill a baby up until the moment of birth, too.
They had, you know, Andy Cuomo lit up the Empire State Building in, or the World Trade Center in pink.
I'm sort of surprised New York doesn't rank up there, but I'll take my one point.
That's fine.
I mean, it ranks really high up there, but doesn't have all these laws to keep it in practice.
One, it's not restricted based on gestation duration, obviously.
The state constitution protects it.
State Medicaid funds cover it.
Wow.
Private health insurance plans are required to cover abortion.
Qualified healthcare professionals, not solely physicians, can also provide it.
State provides protections from harassment and physical harm for anyone entering an abortion clinic.
And the state has a SHIELD law to protect abortion providers from investigations by other states, and they cover also patients in support of their organizations.
That's like North Korea levels of killing babies.
Yeah, it's wild.
We gotta brush up on my abortion laws.
Is California at least, like, third?
I mean, did you see that video from Newsom, like, the other week?
Where he's like, people in cars are getting stopped and women are getting pulled out of their cars and being thrown in jail for getting an abortion?
Yeah.
I watched that video and I thought, you know, the ladies, first of all, no one's proposing this, but second of all, they are going to kill, like, one of their children.
That's not, you know, like, I don't know, I didn't totally sympathize with the protagonist, but anyway.
It's like some weird Democrat fantasy.
Like, they actually, they wish this was happening.
It is encouraging when you see the map, obviously, those, the two worst ones, but all the pro-life states are the, there's much more of those colors taking over the map, let's just say, than all the pro-abortion ones.
All right, number 11.
Define a mask spelled M-A-S-C.
Is it A, a style of makeup characterized by subtle, natural-looking enhancements typically aimed at a male audience?
B, a term used within the LGBTQ plus community to describe an identity or presentation that is associated with masculinity?
Is it C, a term for the use of makeup used to better align oneself with the gender they prefer, often a large amount, to look more like a physical mask, or D, someone whose gender expression is masculine, sometimes used as a derogatory term for lesbians, but it can also be claimed as an affirmative identity label, similar to the term butch.
This is tough.
Alright, whatever.
I got it.
I said B?
Yeah, me too.
They both said B. The answer is D!
Is it D?
I was between B and D. Some people are proud masks.
Proud masks.
But isn't it, wouldn't it therefore also be B?
Yeah.
It's a gender expression that is associated with masculinity.
Like, even if you say, like, well, yeah, but it's also kind of like the term bull or something, and it's, lesbians sort of use it too or whatever.
You know, it doesn't, like, that's true, but that's just a specific instantiation of the general rule of B. I agree with Michael.
You guys just blew my mind.
I think you're absolutely correct.
That definitely would still make sense.
Y'all both get a point.
Let's go!
All right.
Yeah.
Here we go.
I'll be nine by two, but... Yeah.
All right, number 12.
What does this flag represent?
Oh, I know this, I think.
Is it like gay anarchist?
It's like the anarchist flag, but we're very decadent.
There is an anarchist flag, but... Is this multiple choice or no?
No, this is not multiple choice.
Okay.
I think I know what it is.
Okay, hold on.
I think I got it.
How many flags are there?
Too many, to be honest with you.
We could do just flags and have a whole episode.
Yeah, I got it.
This one's a gimme.
All right, what do you have?
That's the flag of the gay pandas.
This is asexual pride?
This is actually the ally pride flag.
So if you are just an ally, you can have as much pride as everybody else going through the crowd.
Wow.
Yeah, it actually came up.
It was more popular in the early 2000s.
I wonder what the asexual flag is.
I wonder if it's similar.
Yeah, and do we know what the gay panda flag is then?
There was a bear flag that I almost used, but... Bear, meaning like the big gay guys?
Yeah.
Yeah, yikes.
You know, you can always create that, Michael.
The gay panda one?
Yeah, I think you should.
That's a good idea.
Maybe I'll draw that in the corner while we're answering these questions.
We can add that to the merch shop.
That'd be pretty great.
Alright, number 13.
What country has the highest share of people identifying as LGBTQ plus?
This is multiple choice.
What country?
Yeah, this is multiple choice.
Is it A. Brazil, B. Spain, C. Switzerland, D. Great Britain, E. The Netherlands.
Greatest increase in the number of, or you're saying just the highest proportion?
The highest share of people identifying, like a percent of their population.
Yeah, okay.
Are these all... Like, where does the U.S.
fall in?
Not this bad.
Not this good, depending on how you look at it.
All right, what do you have?
D, Great Britain.
Well, all the Brits are kind of gay, but they still get married and have kids and stuff.
I said A, Brazil, and then also that's my gay panda.
It's a panda holding a Cosmo with a limp wrist.
Do you have colorful markers though?
Because we need to know the colors of the flag.
That's true, you're right.
I only have the black one.
We can just keep it black.
The answer is A, Brazil.
Let's go!
15%.
I was debating between Brazil and Great Britain.
Yeah.
No, I'm not saying, because they're all, you know, they're like a little Latin, you know, they're a little fluid down there.
Okay.
All right, baby.
Second was actually Spain.
In Kaia's defense, though, in Britain, I assume every single man who attended any prep school You know, had a little of the history boys treatment, so technically Chaya's probably right too.
The history boys treatment?
You know, you never saw that play.
What is that tale, Michael?
You never, yeah, that's a deep cut.
Probably in terms of like, in terms of the culture in the country, I wonder if Great Britain would be first from all of those options?
Yeah.
That's what I was thinking, but okay.
I don't know if I can recover from this.
I'm down three points.
This is rough.
I don't know how far there are, but I'm pretty much giving up hope over here.
Oh, we got some questions left.
And also Great Britain's got a lot more Sharia law coming in, so it's probably pushing some of that out.
That's true, you're right.
I should have thought of that.
It's true.
Number 14, what is an egg?
A, an oval or round object laid by a female bird, reptile, or fish.
B, a phase in gender studies referring to the initial period of exploring gender fluidity before adopting a specific identity.
C, a term used in psychology to describe the natural developmental stage of forming one's gender identity in adolescence.
D, someone who is but doesn't know it yet.
Someone who is an embryo of the person they will eventually hatch into.
They all kind of sounded like the same thing to me.
I know the term egg.
You know, I've heard it before, but... I'd never... I'd never heard it.
If only that's the term they were teaching kids in school, we'd be fine, right?
Just like, an egg, it's just laid by birds or something?
I say, bee?
What do you have?
The answer is D. D?
Yeah.
What was D, though?
Wait, it's like this... Yeah, but this is already predetermined.
What they're saying is you don't decide to be trans, you just are trans.
Oh, right.
So, yeah, you just don't... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's actually very big on Reddit.
And there's like pedos and rumors and creepy predators who are like, let's crack that kid's... You know, that kid isn't an egg.
Let's crack her egg or whatever.
It could be trans, yeah.
Right.
No, that is, like, obviously part of this whole, like, when people call the ideology a groomer ideology, this is the kind of thing they're talking about, right?
It's like, hey, kids, you probably have the same weird hang-up that I do.
I just gotta bring it out.
Ooga booga booga.
You know, and that's, and now those people are in your library.
Right.
And they're in your kindergarten kid's classroom.
And they get off on confusing kids.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Gross.
Egg.
Yeah.
It's a shame none of that can go on YouTube, but... Well, keeping on gross stuff, number 15.
What is the name of the staffer who was caught doing something only meant for procreation in the Senate hearing room?
Oh.
I thought you were going to say the one who went topless, and I already started writing it, but then it wasn't that.
No, in the Senate hearing room.
Allegedly.
Is it?
Oh, I don't know.
He denied it at first, didn't he?
Even though it was on video.
It's like what they do to me.
Yeah.
They're like, no, we're not teaching your first grader about pronouns.
And I'm like, here's a video of a teacher teaching their first graders about pronouns.
They're like, no.
She's lying.
OK, I got it.
All right, what do you have?
Aiden?
Aiden is correct.
Hold on, you gotta do the full name or you do just one name counts?
No, just one name counts.
What do you have, Michael?
I have Eric Swalwell.
I'm mostly joking because I know that all of Eric Swalwell's sex stuff involves female Chinese spies.
Well, that we know of.
That we know of.
You're right.
Hey, you're right.
Michael, we don't know who the person with the camera was.
But we know.
Can I get half credit on the possibility?
On speculation, yeah.
Just to put that out there.
I'll give you a point just for that.
Now, actually, what is the final score now?
Because I had a nice home stretch there.
Don't call it a comeback.
I'm losing by one, I think.
You are.
It's 10-9, Michael.
Is it over?
Did I win?
We have a bonus question, but only, you know, if you want to go double or nothing.
If I want to risk it?
Yeah.
So we got a bonus.
Do we have a tiebreaker after the bonus?
Like, what if we don't?
Okay, so then it could be a tie.
There's no way you can tie on this.
Okay.
It's who gets closer to the percent, so the odds of you actually getting the same percent would be, like, no way.
Okay.
But that's only if you want to, Michael.
You are the champion currently as it stands.
Now, do you want to wager and go all-in on a double or nothing?
Final question.
Yes.
Alright.
I don't really, I don't stand to gain anything, so this is a really stupid bet of me.
Like, I could only lose But, you know, whatever.
I'm not a great gambler.
Do you feel that high going?
You don't want to lose that?
I feel like I just popped in like four zins.
Let's go, baby.
Yeah, I have so much pressure here right now.
I'm sweating.
All right, here we go.
What percent of Gen Z adults identify as something other than straight or heterosexual?
So how does this work?
The closer... Is it like closest without going over?
No, just closest.
I don't like the going over thing.
Like meritocracy.
So basically, what percent of Gen Z is gay?
I'm getting nervous just sitting here now.
Does that include eggs?
Does that, like if you're an egg, do you count?
Yeah, you could identify as that, so just anything other than... But I'm saying, what if they don't know?
Like, if they're an egg, they don't know, right?
But, so do they count?
Well, they wouldn't be able to answer it, so actually, no, they wouldn't, Michael.
They wouldn't count, but they're still the thing.
So, really, whatever the number is, multiply it by two, because all the eggs.
All the eggs out there.
So gross.
Well, they probably, if they know they're an egg, They're probably already identifying as something else.
But what if they don't?
What I'm saying is... They have a label on themselves already.
Well, I thought the definition of an egg was a guy who's trans, but he doesn't know it.
Kind of like when Norm Macdonald said he was a deeply closeted homosexual, but he's not gay.
Like, if you don't, if you're not aware, you can never be aware that you're an egg.
Because the moment you're aware of it, you're not an egg anymore.
You're just trans.
The way that the term is used, it's like people who are starting Already to, like, think that maybe they need a label.
So then I want credit for my previous answer, Mr. Davies, because what Kaia just said is that my answer was kind of right.
How do you like that?
Kind of right does not cut it.
All right.
Whatever.
All right.
I think I have the answer.
A lot of legwork there.
Yeah.
One second.
I have two written down, and I have to decide between these two.
All right.
Okay.
What do you have?
I say 20.1%.
I have 26 percent.
It's 28 percent!
Oh, I was going to rate 28 also!
No, it's not.
Brutal.
According to what study?
Hold on.
I'm calling in.
I don't buy this for a second.
Even like 26, I was like, it's a little low.
That's why I wrote 32 in the corner.
Yeah.
And with all the X. This is not.
What study?
I'm pulling out the.
Wait, so it's a tie.
No, you won.
You lose double or nothing.
Uh-uh.
Yes.
Uh-uh.
Look at this.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I am- NBC News- Michael, I'm just getting in- July- What'd you say?
NBC said that it was from the study that NBC was quoting that nearly 30%- No.
1 in 5.
Hold on.
I knew it.
I knew it was nearly 30.
I saw that study.
That's why I wrote 32.
No.
I have the NBC News article right here.
One in five adult members of Gen Z self-identify as LGBT.
That would be 20%.
No, but it's not just LGBT.
Oh, it's because there was a caveat of something other than.
Exactly.
Hold on.
I'm not buying this.
What if they're non-binary and they're not gay?
No.
I want to see your work here.
I don't believe this for a second.
The article actually doesn't give the numbers.
Let's just end this before Michael continues researching.
Can you send Michael a text with the article that we pulled?
Yeah, I want to see the numbers here.
I don't know what's more impressive.
Michael's pride and arrogance going to that last question?
Zoom in on this.
Here we go.
Uh, February 19th, 2022, Axios reporting the number of LGBTQ identifying adults is soaring.
Gen Z, 20.8%.
Look at that.
How do you like that?
That's almost the exact number I gave.
What's the date on that?
February 19th, 2022.
It's saying people that identify as LGBTQ or not heterosexual.
How many people are identifying as heterosexual?
So what they're saying is 72% of that group are saying we're heterosexual.
And the other ones... And that's two years ago.
The NBC one was much more recent.
It's getting gayer out there.
Hold on, wait, it is now gayer than 1 in 5?
It's getting gayer, yeah.
Apparently.
That can't be real.
Wow.
Well, you know what?
I'm not even going to dispute it.
I'll take the tie in my great magnanimity.
After spending five minutes trying to dispute it.
No, I still hold to Ben Davies's statistical error, and I'm sure they'll sort it out in the comments.
But if it is the case that our society is getting even gayer than one in five, then we've all lost anyway.
At that point, it doesn't matter.
But you know who didn't lose?
It was Chaya.
And she gets a 30 second read from you, Michael.
What do you want to plug?
Wait, I thought it was a tie.
No, she won.
Maybe she won.
It was 10 to 9.
It was all in on that.
Yeah, it was like you're going all in on one question.
I'm going double on all my points?
So she got 20 to 10 or something?
I thought that's what we agreed upon.
This is classic Ben Davies statistics.
This is where he got the 30% number.
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Wow, thank you.
Am I gonna get a Panda pride flag as my prize?
I erased it, unfortunately, but... Wow.
We'll just get Jeremy on it, you know, he'll just start a new company and have the pride flags going.
I'm sure we'll get you one very, very soon.
Wait, so this is only the second time that Michael lost?
Yeah, it's still disputed, but yeah, that's what... And he lost to me out of how many episodes?
Like a billion.
I would say that, you know, depending on how this thing is finally scored, I will admit that I lost in about the same way that Trump lost the 2020 election.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, you're almost a competition denier.
What do you think double or nothing means, Michael?
I didn't know I could wager the points I had already won.
When did that happen?
It's double the points.
hear.
It's double the point.
I want this fair and square.
And so hold on.
What is the non-straight, non-straight, non-LGBT identity?
There's a lot of weird identities out there, and apparently people are identifying as it.
There's pandas, I don't know.
Honestly, that was found by the lovely Markella, and so she was just added all of them up.
It's obviously fake, but it's okay.
We accept the ruling for now, maybe we challenge it in court.
This will be good for the comments though, you know, we'll get it moving.
Michael won!
Team Michael for life!
I'm actually shocked right now.
It was a great performance.
The comeback was really the whole thrust of it.
I don't mean to use the term thrust in an LGBT episode.
There's so many images in my head after this.
Oh my god, I need a detox.
Yeah, you're describing that flag, Michael.
I was like, good lord, this is like an 18-plus episode on YouTube.
Yeah, it's gonna get the explicit warning.
For sure.
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