Ep. 1385 - White People Aren't Human According To Woke Professor
Ibram Kendi says white people aren’t human, Liz Cheney threatens to run third party, and Michael breaks a major exposé on Pornhub’s trans agenda.
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Ibram Kendi, the director of the Center for Anti-Racist Research at Boston University, a man considered by Time Magazine to be among the 100 most influential people in the world, has a message for white people.
We white people, it turns out, are not part of humanity.
I don't think White people worldwide have really reckoned with how much their own personal identity is shaped by constructions of whiteness.
And how much that construction of whiteness prevents white people from connecting to humanity.
In other words, Recognizing that when you recognize that you are part and parcel of humanity, in other words, you're not over humanity, right?
It allows you to really be able to connect to people who don't look like you, who have kinky hair, who have dark skin, and to see yourself in them.
And it's whiteness that prevents that, right?
And when you're not able to see yourself in other human beings, that creates all sorts of problems.
White people aren't human.
That's the point, for those who missed Kendi's not-so-subtle argument.
White people's race, the race with which we are born, which we cannot change, which not even Rachel Dolezal can change, try as she might, that prevents us from being human, because it prevents us from connecting with humanity, which is just a euphemism, it's just a flowery way of saying Being human.
Liberals love to bandy about that word dehumanizing in all sorts of silly contexts.
Here, Kendi is explicitly dehumanizing all white people.
What Kendi is saying here is nothing more than the pretentious, clubbable version of the sort of mottos that black identitarians are chanting in South Africa.
Shoot the boa.
Shoot the farmer!
That's Julius Malema, president of the third largest political party in the South African parliament.
That's what he's saying.
What he's saying sounds a little dumber and cruder than what Kendi's saying.
The point is exactly the same.
Shoot the boa, shoot the farmer, these people aren't human.
Kendi's not quite as blunt, but he is making the same argument.
White people are not human, therefore not entitled to any human rights, or any political rights for that matter.
Political rights are only for humans.
The only practical difference between the two is that Malema chants his psychopathic hatred at political rallies in a failing African state, and Kendi preaches his in Netflix screening halls to the applause of the liberal establishment.
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Now, on the bright side of political activism, beyond, you know, white people aren't human, kill the boar, shoot the farmer.
On the bright side, Not only is Lady Baller's the number one streaming movie on Rotten Tomatoes, we also made it to Capitol Hill when Congressman Eric Burleson, my friend who has been on this show before, you might remember him, was questioning Riley Gaines, a star of the Lady Baller's movie, on what is going on with women's sports and the transgender agenda.
Check it out.
I just want to say, you know, to Mrs. Gaines, what happened to you is tragic.
I mean, you were robbed of the glory, you were robbed of your opportunity to be clearly the victor.
And if it weren't so tragic, it would be comical.
I mean, and I understand there's a movie being made, a comedy about this very issue, on the Daily Wire, that I can't wait to see.
I encourage everyone to watch it.
And truthfully, I think that's what's needed.
Because what we're seeing, again, what myself and my teammates and my competitors saw was a mockery.
A mockery of women.
And I believe it's time we mock the mockery through comedy.
Because you're right, it's objectively funny.
It's inherent to almost look at this and laugh, because it feels like satire.
But watching that movie, to which I watched, it didn't feel like satire.
It felt like a documentary.
Of what, again, myself and girls around the country continue to go through.
Thank you.
My time has expired.
Really important point from Congressman Burleson and, of course, from Riley Gaines.
This is called a hearing on transgenderism in women's sports.
The way that this has all been framed is about women's sports.
And that's a little bit misleading, I think, because no one actually cares about women's sports.
If this were just about women's sports, people would write it off and say, don't we have bigger issues in America?
Yeah, maybe it's a little wrong.
The hulking dudes running and beating the women.
But like, who cares?
You know, we're on the brink of World War Three.
We got a migration crisis.
Who cares about women's sports?
No one even shows up to watch them.
No one.
No one goes to WNBA games.
It's a minor issue.
I agree with you.
No one actually cares about women's sports.
That's not what this is about.
What this is about is justice.
No, I've never gone to see a women's basketball game, and I never will.
I don't even watch men's sports, really.
A very small number of exceptions.
That's not the problem here.
The problem is that these women have trained their whole lives, they were told that there are rules to the game, they were told that if they worked really hard they could win a trophy and they could get some glory, that they could get even material benefit from it.
They could get scholarships, they could go to the college of their dreams, and then that is being stolen from them by men who are breaking the rules of the game.
That's what's so wrong.
That's how you get someone like me fired up about this.
I don't care about women's sports at all, and most people don't.
But you don't need to care about women's sports to recognize that this is terribly wrong.
And it's deeply unjust, and it's dangerous for women.
Don't forget, when dudes started fighting in women's MMA, what happened?
Immediately, the dudes started cracking the women's skulls.
This is terribly dangerous.
It's terribly wrong.
Everything about it is absurd.
That's what makes it a comedy.
One of the critical reviews of Lady Ballers said this movie is actually undercutting its argument that we need to save women's sports.
Because the joke in the movie is that no one actually shows up to women's sports and they start showing up when the men infiltrate the games.
No, the argument of the movie is not that we need to save women's sports.
The argument of the movie is we need to protect women and we need to defend justice.
That's the message of the movie.
Yeah, the movie points out people do want to go see men compete in sports more than they want to see women.
Because men are bigger and faster and stronger.
That's why it's so wrong to have them running and swimming against the women.
And it's certainly wrong to have them punching the women in the face.
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Liz Cheney is floating a third-party run for president real hard.
She's been teasing this a little bit for the past few months.
Now there would seem to be a coordinated effort.
You saw multiple op-eds over the last week or so from Liz Cheney and her allies in Washington suggesting that Donald Trump could become a dictator.
If he were to be elected president again, he is the existential threat to the republic, and so for the good of our country, Liz Cheney might run third party.
I think that the situation that we're in is so grave, she says, and the politics of the moment require independents and republicans and democrats coming together in a way that can help form a new coalition, so that may well be a third party option.
My first takeaway here is that Liz Cheney does not know the singularity or plurality of the word politics.
Politics is a singular Now, so it'd be politics is anyway, it's a minor point.
She doesn't know grammar, but she knows how to save the whole country.
She doesn't know how to get votes to be reelected to Congress, but she knows how to save the Republic from Donald Trump, a very popular man and a very successful president.
Listen, I'm for it.
I might criticize Liz Cheney.
I hope she runs.
Oh boy, would that be great?
I want Liz Cheney to run.
I want Bobby Kennedy to run.
I want Cornel West to run.
I want them all to run because None of these candidates take votes from Trump.
Or rather, I should say, none of these candidates take net votes from Trump.
They will take more votes from Biden than they will from Trump.
This is reflected in most of the polls, even for Bobby Kennedy, who is the closest to sharing a base with Donald Trump.
And even then, most of the polls show he pulls more from Biden than he does from Trump.
Bobby Kennedy helps Trump get elected.
Cornel West certainly helps Trump get elected.
Liz Cheney?
How many Liz Cheney fans were gonna vote for Donald Trump, but then will vote for Liz Cheney if she's running?
Zero.
There is no overlap on that Venn diagram.
So I love it.
Throw it all in there, baby.
And why is that?
Why is it that candidates are having such a hard time taking votes away from Trump?
Even in the Republican primary, even Ron DeSantis, who has modeled his tenure as Florida governor and his presidential campaign on being Trump without the baggage, the bigger, better version of Trump.
I like where Trump took the Republican Party, but I'm going to do the better version of it.
I'm going to wield power more effectively.
I'm going to have a clearer political vision.
That has been the pitch for DeSantis.
Even he has not really been able to cut into the Trump support.
Why is that?
Because Trump is unique.
The guy is an American original, and he represents, in the mind of the voting public, a choice, not an echo.
And all these other people, Liz Cheney, even Bobby Kennedy, who's kind of a weirdo, certainly Joe Biden, all the rest of them, don't.
None of them have been able to emulate that.
I don't know what Liz Cheney is thinking.
She probably just wants attention because no one's giving it to her anymore.
But if she really believes that running for president is her best way to take down Donald Trump, or whoever the Republican nominee is, but I guess she's really after Trump, bring it on, baby.
Go for it.
Love it.
I mentioned that DeSantis, who again, have to preface this, really like the guy, think he's terrific, has been an excellent governor in another cycle, he could be an excellent presidential candidate, but his campaign has been very lackluster this cycle.
He previously was viewed as the anti-Trump candidate.
Some of us may have predicted that that was not going to work because you can't be the Trumpy anti-Trump candidate.
In his own presentation, he's Trump without the baggage.
In the presentation of his donors and just given his place in the race, he has to be the anti-Trump guy.
And you can't be the Trumpy anti-Trump guy.
It doesn't work.
So even though it seems like that would make you the strongest candidate, it actually leaves you as a man without a home.
And now the anti-Trump Voters, and donors especially, are moving toward a different candidate.
That candidate would be Nikki Haley.
Because Nikki Haley, though she might not describe herself this way, has always been, from day one, the moderate in the race.
She's been more of the centrist in the race.
She's modeled basically her whole political career on that line of thinking.
And so the Koch Network is now backing her, some of the biggest donors in GOP politics.
She's picking up a lot of support now among the center-right types, among the punditry, and she's moderating some of her positions, including one that might really hurt her with the base.
Nikki Haley is suggesting that the government has no place in the matter of transing the kids.
Madam Ambassador, another question is what care should be on the table when a 12-year-old child in this country, assigned female at birth, says, actually, I feel more comfortable living as a boy.
What should the law allow the response to be?
I think the law should stay out of it, and I think parents should handle it.
Okay, this is not a good answer.
I really like Nikki personally.
This is a really bad answer.
If I were advising her, I would tell her to immediately disavow that opinion, say that she was misunderstood, and say that she opposes transing the kids.
However, I'm not advising her campaign, or any campaign, and furthermore, Even though I find that answer to be profoundly unsatisfying.
Crazy, even.
To say that the law has no place in determining whether or not you're allowed to castrate a child?
If the law doesn't have a role there, then what's the point of the law?
I find that answer deeply unsatisfying.
However, there will be a significant chunk of the GOP that likes that answer.
That is especially true among the donor class, that is especially true among Republicans in blue states and Republicans on the coasts, who are not as hardcore about the social issues, whose kids go to school with all sorts of gender-confused type people, and who were raised on the GOP maxim that all that matters is shrinking the government.
And if you grew up, in Nikki's defense, if you grew up believing that the defining characteristic of a conservative is shrinking the government, getting the law and the enforcement of the law out of every single decision and making everything just a private matter, then that's a very conservative answer.
And a lot of people were raised that way.
A lot of people We're told, I'm not sure that this was a fair characterization of their views, but they were told that this is what Barry Goldwater believed, this is what Ronald Reagan believed, this is it.
Shrink the government so that you can fit it inside your pocket.
The worst words, the scariest words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
The government causes all our problems, it doesn't solve any of our problems.
Just leave everything to private industry or, at the very least, to families.
Yeah, I'm all for giving a lot of power to families and to local communities, and even a reasonable amount of power to private industry.
Child abuse does not fall into that, you know.
If the law doesn't have an interest in preventing a particularly heinous form of child abuse that will have lifelong health complications for the kids, that will sterilize them, that will totally screw up their development, that will give them bone problems, that will likely shorten their lifespans.
If the government doesn't have a role in that, the government doesn't have a role in anything.
But mark my words, mark my words, this view will have sway With a substantial minority of GOP voters.
And therefore it's probably pretty good for Nikki's campaign.
Because Nikki's only path here to staying in the race is to be the anti-Trump candidate.
And the way to be the anti-Trump candidate is to be very clearly the centrist candidate.
Trump, even though some of his views are much more centrist than his rhetoric would let on, Trump is viewed as the extreme, rock-ribbed conservative candidate.
So that's it.
That's where she's going to go.
Speaking of the GOP presidential field, it is shrinking.
I teased this yesterday.
Doug Burgum is out.
Doug Burgum, the governor of, want to say Montana?
I don't even really remember, but I think it was Montana.
He made a lot of money in tech or from Microsoft or something.
He also was a social liberal, but he wanted to cut taxes.
He seemed like a very nice guy.
I know people who donated to his campaign, because if you gave him $10, he would send you a $20 gift card to some store, because he wanted to qualify for the debate.
So anyway, he's out.
And I have to tell you, people made fun of me for suggesting that Chris Christie would go further in this race than a lot of people believed that he would.
When I say Christy, he might have a moment, or he might stick around for a while.
And people laugh, Christy's the worst candidate in the whole race, ha ha ha.
Well, look who's left!
It's four candidates left at these debates.
DeSantis, Haley, The Vague, and somehow, Christy.
Does that mean that we're on the brink of a Chris-issance?
Maybe not.
Chris-issance for short.
The man, by knowing what lane he's in, knowing that he is in the centrist lane, he's just an alternative to Trump, that man has stuck around a good long time when he had no right to do it.
Ron DeSantis is the best governor in America, and he got re-elected by a huge margin.
Obviously, that guy should still be in the race.
Chris Christie left office in disgrace, and no one likes him anymore, and he's still in it!
Perhaps it is actually happening.
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Now, turning to the Democrat side of the presidential race, major Democrats are souring on Joe Biden.
In fact, Bill Maher, who is sometimes unorthodox with the left, but he's generally a reliable center-left guy.
He just came out on his show and he said that not only is Biden messing up, Trump is actually right.
He says under his administration, his next one, schools will teach students to love their country not to hate their country like they're taught now.
I gotta say, this one doesn't bother me so much.
Because I think that, I mean, this is what I see when I see kids demonstrating, these progressives demonstrating for Hamas, the most illiberal people in the world.
That, oh good, we're going to give America its comeuppance.
F*** America.
This is, they kind of have been indoctrinated this way.
And Chuck Schumer made a speech this week.
He said anti-Semitism is a five alarm fire.
Trump is right when he says that the schools teach people to hate America.
That's obviously true.
Obviously true.
we've ever had in this country.
He talked about when Jewish people hear chants like from the river to the sea.
Do you understand that means wipe us out by any means necessary?
Trump is right when he says that the schools teach people to hate America.
That's obviously true.
Obviously true.
Now, what does this mean for us?
Does this mean that Bill Maher is a right-wing No, he's not.
Does it mean that the right should suck up to Bill Maher as we sometimes do?
No, I don't think we should do that.
Bill Maher is the perfect mainstream center-left guy.
He's a great example of that guy.
And so the use of Bill Maher for Republican political purposes is as a barometer.
And the Bill Maher barometer reading here is telling us something that a lot of us have seen for years at this point, which is that the education issue is great for Republicans.
The Chamber of Commerce types, the squishes, the forget-about-social-issues types, they don't want to talk about that.
Oh no, just leave it to the parents and the local communities and don't, let's not talk about what's being taught in the schools.
Let's not talk about the ideologies foisted on little kids.
Let's just, let's just ignore that.
No.
Bill Maher is saying, man, these schools, they're teaching kids to hate America.
What's wrong with these guys?
Yeah.
The education issue got Glenn Youngkin elected in Virginia.
It was related to the trans issue.
It was a trans, it was a trans in education issue, but it got Glenn Youngkin elected.
That education issue was one of the biggest drivers to get Ron DeSantis re-elected in Florida.
Ron DeSantis going in, taking over a school, a big lib school, what is it, New College of Florida?
Going in, hostile takeover, filling it up with conservatives, changing the curriculum so it stopped teaching anti-American nonsense and started being a serious educational institution.
Great, love it.
Why?
Why is this such a good issue?
Because everyone has kids that are in some kind of schooling or another.
Because during COVID, parents for the first time saw the kind of nonsense their kids were being taught, which led to a huge spike in homeschooling.
Because the left has turned parents into a unified political group for the first time ever.
It's a great issue.
Any Republican who wants to win needs to run on this issue.
It appeals to so many people.
This issue appeals to suburban moms in the Midwest.
It appeals to recent Muslim immigrants in Dearborn, Michigan.
No one wants their kids to be taught this lunacy in schools.
Great issue.
It even appeals to Bill Maher.
Now, speaking of Bill Maher, on a different episode of his show, Roseanne Barr, who I think I can now refer to as my colleague, because that's pretty great.
I want to put that on my Twitter bio.
Colleague of Roseanne Barr, because Roseanne is going to be the voice in our show, Bircham.
Mr. Bircham, Adam Carolla's cartoon that we're producing here at The Daily Wire, that is absolutely terrific.
I've seen the pilot.
It's amazing.
So, Roseanne goes on Bill Maher's show, and she makes a pretty weighty accusation about him.
No wonder I don't remember this.
No s***, you blocked it out, MKUltra.
Who's that?
That's the mind control program you're under, Bill.
MKUltra?
Yeah.
So who's, but who's Klaus Schwab?
The head of the WEF.
What's that?
Google it.
Love Roseanne.
She's great.
Google it.
Now people are looking at this clip, they're saying, man, Roseanne's crazy, isn't she?
She's always been a little crazy.
She said she's a little crazy.
Most comedians are.
Here though, Roseanne doesn't really sound like the crazy one to me.
Roseanne comes out, she says, Bill, you're under an MKUltra mind control program.
MKUltra was that program of the CIA to try to control people's minds.
It's also my preferred nickname.
I really like, I'm going to rename my show MKUltra.
I think that's really great.
Okay, that's a big, crazy, wild accusation.
But the crazier thing is, Bill says he doesn't know what it is.
He's never heard of MKUltra.
MKUltra, of all of the nefarious CIA operations over the years, Operation Mockingbird, Northwoods, all the rest of them, MKUltra is by far the most prominent, well-known program.
Bill Maher is seriously saying he's never heard of MKUltra?
And she cuts in later in the interview, she's talking about the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab.
Klaus Schwab.
Everyone's heard of Klaus Schwab.
Not everyone.
Not everyone.
There are plenty of people who have never heard of Klaus Schwab.
But anyone who pays attention to political news at all has heard of Klaus Schwab.
Bill Maher has been doing a political news and commentary and comedy show for, what, 30 years now?
In some form or another?
He's never heard of Klaus Schwab?
And then she clarifies.
She says, you know, from the WEF.
The World Economic Forum.
He says, what's that?
He's never heard of the World Economic Forum?
What's going on here?
Is Bill Maher actually MKUltra?
I don't know.
What does it even mean to be MKUltra?
Does it mean you're just a super fan of the show?
I don't know.
But don't tell me Roseanne's the crazy one in that interview.
I assume Bill is just playing dumb.
Have he's really never heard of those things?
Well, strange.
Maybe he's under some mind control.
Now, speaking of the deep state.
We here at The Daily Wire, we cannot stop suing the Biden administration.
We just love it.
It's one of our favorite hobbies.
And this is breaking news, it just came out.
We are suing Biden's State Department.
This is a lawsuit with the Federalist and with the state of Texas.
We are suing the State Department because we now have very strong evidence that the State Department spent money to destroy our business.
The U.S.
State Department, which is tasked only with dealing with foreign affairs, which is prohibited from wielding its power on domestic issues, certainly against domestic perceived enemies, the State Department used its money to destroy the Daily Wire.
How did they do that?
They used government money They then, within the State Department, turned the Global Engagement Center, which is an office designed for countering foreign terrorist propaganda, And they turned it on so-called disinformation in the United States.
This is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.
The GEC, this Center to Counter Foreign Terrorism, in fact it was founded as the Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications, was tasked with disrupting the communications of Al-Qaeda.
Congress clarified in 2016 that none of the funds authorized for the entity, quote, shall be used for purposes other than countering foreign propaganda.
And then what happened?
The GEC turned its focus onto us, onto Americans.
They promoted pro-censorship leftist organizations such as NewsGuard and the Global Disinformation Index.
We're considered one of the worst offenders on the Global Disinformation Index.
And NewsGuard hates us too, though, and they try to censor us as well.
And then they use that money to destroy our business.
And not just us, to destroy the Federalist, to destroy the New York Post, to destroy Reason Magazine.
Reason Magazine, they're just some amiable pot-smoking libertarians.
They're going after Reason too?
Reason is barely, it's hard to even call that right-wing.
It's vaguely right-wing.
State Department going after them too.
So we are suing them.
We love suing the Biden administration.
We've got a pretty good track record suing the Biden administration, so I think it's gonna work out very well.
And right now in D.C., the deep state does not seem quite as omnipotent as it once did.
They seem kind of blundering.
I'm beginning to get the impression of the deep state, not that they are truly the shadowy cabal of five people controlling the whole world.
I'm starting to get the sense that it's like Burn After Reading by the Coen brothers, that everything they touch turns to ash because they're extraordinarily incompetent.
And they have bad motives as well, like trying to destroy our business with money that's supposed to be used to disrupt foreign terrorists.
They've got bad motives too, I'm not denying that.
But they're just so profoundly incompetent.
They use money to try to destroy us.
Every time they do it, our company doubles in size.
Now we have the biggest comedy movie in the country on Rotten Tomatoes.
Keep it up, State Department!
While we sue you for this, keep spending more money to destroy us.
By the end of it, we're going to be the biggest media company in the world.
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Hey!
I am Wonder Mike, and I've come to say hello to the black, to the white, the red, and the brown, the purple, and yellow.
But first, I gotta get to our guest.
This is a breaking news story.
I'm really pleased that we were able to get this story, and we did not do the investigation.
This investigation was undertaken by a wonderful news group.
This would be Sound Investigations.
I am joined here by one of the journalists, Arden Young.
Arden, thank you for coming on the show.
Thank you so much for having me, Michael.
So Arden, before we get into how you conducted this investigation, what it all means, I want to just show people some clips of what you've uncovered because some of us have suspected that Pornhub and its parent company, formerly called MindGeek, now it's called A-Lo.
They have to keep changing the name because they're an evil company, and they don't want to have to face the music.
Some of us have suspected that they've been up to these kinds of activities for a while.
Here it is in their own words.
Let's say you're 12 years old.
You're still figuring out your sexuality, maybe even your gender.
Wouldn't it be helpful to see, not a celebration, just like maybe a normalization of something that you think is what you want, you know?
Probably helps a lot.
Let's say I was 12 and I saw like trans angels, I saw all these different sites.
It would help me figure out what I do like and what I don't like.
I need to try to push stuff that's more, less accepted.
Like putting a trans male or a trans female in a scene, you wouldn't get that on a normal mainstream site.
So test it out.
See if you get a bigger audience with it.
See if you can convert somebody, right?
Like, maybe somebody who's never looked for anything like that might find it interesting and click on it.
Same thing for bi stuff, same thing for gay.
That's another senior scriptwriter at MindGeek, now called ALO, but we all know it as PornHub.
That's just the biggest pornographers on the planet.
Two major discoveries here.
One, they know that kids are looking at their content.
They're totally fine with it.
It obviously helps their business model.
We all knew that.
It's crazy to hear it in their own words.
We all knew that.
The second discovery, to me, is the most shocking.
Senior scriptwriter here at the biggest porn company on earth saying, yeah, we're trying to convert straight guys into looking at Gay porn.
Or trans porn.
We're always trying to push the boundaries.
We're not even just serving the market that already exists for porn.
We're trying to create new markets by creating new desires in people that they do not previously have, that are certainly out of the mainstream, that are considered more deviant, and we're going to slip that content into the porn to expand the palette, I suppose, of the customer.
I can't believe They're admitting this.
I know.
I mean, I was sitting across from him.
That was probably one of the last things I was expecting him to say.
My instincts were to just ask him about the kinds of things they were marketing to people because I knew he does primarily work on gay and trans pornography sites.
That's mainly what he writes.
And he was very, very open.
He was very matter of fact.
And in fact, he, like you saw, he even viewed kids viewing porn as a positive thing.
So, you're conducting this interview, this guy obviously has no idea what's going on, but you'd think if you were working for so degenerate a company, and you were engaged in such, even today, frowned upon kinds of behaviors, you might be a little You might play it a little closer to the vest, right?
He didn't, though.
Did it take much prodding, or was he just open about this?
He was extremely open about this, and we're talking about Dylan in particular, the senior script writer for ALO.
He was extremely open, extremely obliging, did not think my questions were strange or out of place at all.
And it goes to show you kind of the mindset these employees of this company are in.
Porn, in all of its forms, are so normalized to them, and they're so callous to something as serious as a child being able to view pornography.
But of course, we all know, and in fact, in one of your interviews, you mentioned that the median age of exposure to pornography now for kids is something like 11.
Frankly, I'm surprised it's that high.
I would even suspect it might be lower.
Maybe today it is lower.
We all know that kids are accessing porn, and that's how the porn companies Cultivate and groom their future crop of customers, because kids' brains are very, very malleable.
If they get addicted to this stuff when they're 10 or 11 years old, they're going to stick with it for a very long time, most likely.
Again, it's horrifying.
They should be prosecuted for it.
It's just evil.
It's great to hear them admit it.
The thing that is so shocking to me, I guess, is that we have been told for my entire life By the left, by the pro-pornography people, by the sexual revolutionaries, that sexual desire is innate and immutable.
It's an orientation.
Nobody becomes Gay, bisexual, trans, it's not, you're just, you're born that way, and how dare you suggest, we'll probably be kicked off of social media for even repeating what this top porn employee who writes this stuff, who knows what he's talking about, what he is admitting on camera, we'll probably be kicked off even for repeating it.
But what he is saying is, yeah, nah, that's all bunk.
Actually, yeah, you can convert people.
That's how our business model works.
You gotta slip in this weirder stuff, so you take a guy who's been straight his whole life, who's never entertained any other kind of thought, and then you try to get him, well actually, you went even in greater depth with him.
Let's play that clip.
The thing is, when you write for Sean Cody, which is primarily gay-targeted, when you write for Trans Angel, which is female-presenting-targeted, you also try to see how much you can take of that and bring it to mainstream, vanilla content, right?
Because Brazzers and Reality Kings is predominantly for straight men, but you try to push the envelope as much as you can.
Okay, can I hint at, like, my content here?
Can I, can I, like, talk more about, like, what if we brought a trans talent onto the site, and you kind of, like, take those risks to try and broaden it a little bit more, even though you know that you have a site dedicated to that, right?
Like, you're always trying to push it a little further.
Because the thing is, the thing about Trans Angels, which is a site, um, it's female-presenting trans women, and, like, they sell that to straight men.
Like, that's the demography.
There it is.
They're trying to trans the straight guys.
That's not my words.
Hey, social media companies, don't take me off for saying that.
That's what the senior writer at MindGeek, the guy who writes all of this porn, he is saying, we are trying to take straight guys.
Our target demo is converting straight guys into trans guys.
Yeah, and you know, I think he meant convert in the marketing sense, which doesn't really make it any better.
It's the same sense.
Yes, there's a whole conversation we had about the business model and capitalism, but when we're talking about a product that involves, at a very deep level, your own desires and your own identity, then when you convert people to the product, you're converting them in their desire and their identity.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I think they're completely motivated by profits.
They just want to make more, a wider variety of content, more palatable and more profitable to the single viewer.
And, you know, going back to children accessing pornography, we're seeing more and more ID laws passed in the U.S.
So now in many states, it's required to verify your age before entering a pornographic site.
Alo and the parent company of Pornhub is actively suing some of these U.S.
states trying to stop this from happening because they openly admit that requiring their ID before accessing porn actually drives down their traffic by 80 percent.
So for them, protecting children is not a concern.
Maximizing profits is 100% their concern, and they don't seem to care who they harm in the process.
Of course not.
I thought it told the whole story when Utah first passed, I think it was Utah, passed that ID law, and instantly Pornhub said, okay, we're not doing business in the state of Utah anymore.
They said, well, there you go.
There you have it.
Arden, can you stick around for a little bit?
We've got to end this portion of the show.
We will go into the member block exclusively for the Kremne La Kremne Daily Wire members, but there's so much more that I want to ask you.
So stick around.
All right, the rest of the show continues now.
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