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March 19, 2021 - The Michael Knowles Show

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Daily Wire Backstage: Biden’s Most Terrifying "Accomplishments"

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	Hey, Michael Knowles here.
	The latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage, Biden's most terrifying accomplishments, is available now.
	Let's be frank with one another.
	This administration is completely nuts, so you might as well grab a drink and hear us laugh about it.
	Don't miss me, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Andrew Klavan, and the God King Jeremy Boring, along with special guest Candace Owens, as we discuss everything from Cardi and Candace's Twitter feud to the crisis America faces at the southern border.
	Take a listen.
	You know, we haven't had a fake laugh in a while.
	That's true.
	How about a three, two...
	Welcome to the Daily Wire backstage, Biden's most terrifying accomplishments edition.
	I'm Jeremy Boring, known around these parts as the God King by anyone who wants to keep their jobs.
	We're glad you've tuned in, folks.
	In the words of George Washington as he crossed the Delaware.
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	Wet-ass patriots, make that red coat game weak.
	Hashtag it's cold.
	Because George loves hashtags, I guess.
	It makes no sense.
	Speaking of old presidents, how bad will Biden's border disaster have to get before the media takes notice?
	Will Cuomo pull a Northam and just stick around until the storm passes?
	Will the Grammys put Pornhub out of business?
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	Get your questions in.
	There's nothing to talk about.
	The teleprompter had exactly that much.
	I was trying to read the news right before the show, and it was basically that teleprompter.
	That's all there is to say.
	I know Ben would rather just go home, but I thought, yeah, we might as well.
	I'm sure there's something that we could gin up of interest in.
	The only thing that came to my mind is that it's Michael Knowles' birthday.
	Yeah, it's a big day.
	It's my birthday.
	I know.
	How many?
	You know, a lady never tells, but 31.
	The big 3-1, a monumental birthday.
	It is monumental.
	I remember last year was your 30th birthday, and we had all these plans of all the ways that we were going to celebrate you, and then COVID happened.
	Two days before.
	Two days before.
	Two days before, and that was it.
	I don't remember having all those plans.
	Yeah.
	COVID was our excuse, if you'll recall.
	They sort of foisted it on us.
	You know, when it happened, sweet little Lisa said, you know, hey, we'll celebrate your birthday in a few months.
	I said, I wasn't born in a few months.
	I was born today, so that's over.
	So then she was like, no, we'll celebrate it next year.
	I said, 31?
	A grown man can't have a 31st birthday.
	That's, no.
	At this age, you get birthdays once a decade.
	Yeah, at most.
	I mean, I think I need to basically be Drew's age before I get another actual birthday.
	So here's the thing.
	Today marks two dark occasions.
	One is backstage.
	And the second is the day that Michael Moles was popped out of his mother's womb.
	And we all regret this day.
	Some of us it has cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
	At least.
	No, more than that.
	Others of us it has cost merely tens of thousands of dollars.
	And Candace, you're new.
	Don't worry.
	And so happy birthday to Michael Knowles and God help us all.
	Also, actually, in real news, Candace continues to be in a legal wrangle now with Cardi B's.
	That's unbelievable.
	We have to talk about that.
	The only important news is happening because of Candace.
	That's right.
	So do we have any major breaking legal news?
	Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because she's now deleted.
	Because there was nothing wrong with them.
	There was nothing wrong with them.
	She deleted them and she gave maybe the best excuse ever because I obviously called her out for deleting the tweets where it's like, oh, I wonder what happened.
	You wait for the news cycle to go away and then you try to quietly delete the tweets because you maybe have gotten some legal counsel and you realize we are seriously suing you.
	And she gives the best excuse.
	She says, oh no, I deleted the tweets because my Twitter is fun and friendly.
	She actually...
	Right.
	Same excuse Hillary used.
	She was like, I just drilled right through those hard drives because this bathroom is supposed to be fun and friendly.
	Light, airy.
	Right, exactly.
	She's ruining all the decor, so we had to bleach business.
	Best defense ever.
	I actually did that because it's fun and friendly.
	I just wanted to keep things fun and friendly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Deleted tweets made her pull-out game work.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So I'm very afraid of her, but...
	Cardi B is, can I just say, she's great for traffic.
	He's really good for that.
	I genuinely texted Ben when this went down.
	I was like, I think at a certain point, we are going to have to cut her a check.
	Daily Wire, I think.
	In our culture, there's very little that shocks anymore.
	But I remember, I think I probably first heard your rendition, Ben, of the movie.
	What is a better rendition?
	It was a better rendition.
	It is terrific.
	It's the highlight of the movie.
	Joe Cocker did the Beatles better and you did Cardi B better.
	Right, but when I heard it...
	And John Belushi did Joe Cocker doing this.
	Much better than this.
	Even better still.
	When I first heard WAP, and I, you know, I've been around the block a little bit.
	When I heard that song, I thought, seriously, for the first time, that I didn't realize you could have audio pornography.
	That you actually could have, that you could read porn or you could watch.
	I didn't know you could listen to actual pornography.
	But that's what the song is.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I had the opposite.
	In some ways, at first I was shocked, and then I was shocked by The fact that I wasn't shocked anymore, because it should be a lot more shocking than it is to hear a woman singing that graphically about her genitalia, but they have to try so hard to be shocking.
	At a certain point, when you're trying that hard, it just doesn't work anymore.
	You watch the Grammys' performance.
	The clip that I saw, I was surprised by how it just seemed kind of clumsy and desperate and very non-sexy.
	It's like Babylon, if Babylon really wanted attention.
	Yeah.
	It reminded me of when Norm MacDonald was doing the Bob Saget roast, and all these roasts were just the most disgusting, vile, vulgar things you could say.
	And Norm got up and did a bunch of 70s Dean Martin roast jokes, you know, like, hey, Cloris, you'll never be over the hill in the car that you drive, right?
	All these kind of innocent jokes.
	And he was asked about this, and he said, they told me to be shocking.
	That was the only way to be shocking, right?
	You think, like, if someone does a waltz at the Grammys, that would be the most shocking thing, right?
	If a girl kept her clothes on on Instagram, you'd be like, this is shocking.
	I just can't believe she's just going to keep her clothes on like that.
	And that's sad, but that's the culture you live in.
	They have constructed it, though, that you cannot point out that our culture is now almost universally trash.
	But if you point that out, you're kind of cranky, you know?
	And it's like you're just supposed to watch the decadence and think, wow, it's really brave that our culture is now garbage.
	I would believe your opinion if you didn't hate the Beatles.
	Yeah.
	But you've actually been cranky since 1963.
	Be fair, be fair.
	I agree that the Beatles were tremendously talented.
	That's fair.
	But I looked at them and I thought, one day, Cardi B is going to do well.
	The slippery slope.
	A very slippery slope, as it turns out.
	100 days a week, man.
	Turning on incognito or private mode in Chrome and Safari is not enough.
	I just skipped the segue and I went right to the ad.
	That was brave.
	Thank you.
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	And guys, if you saw the stuff that I'm into online, you'd know.
	That guy's got to have it.
	You know how many times he's watched Rapids?
	It's like insane.
	It's insane.
	It really is.
	But there is no culture left, is I think the point.
	Well, you've been talking about this, and I think it's important that we don't have a counterculture anymore.
	We have an anti-culture.
	Right.
	Well, what they used to be, the counterculture, the idea was we know the rules, and we're going to fight the rules, but we at least acknowledge that the rules exist.
	Now it's, we're not just going to fight the rules.
	There are no rules.
	And the problem is that art without rules is just crap.
	See, this is the dirty little secret about art.
	It's like getting rid of all the rules of grammar and then trying to write a book on the basis of that.
	You can't do that because it doesn't make any sense.
	That's true about all art.
	There have to be some limitations to what it is that you can do because that defines pushing the boundaries.
	There are no boundaries to push.
	If you know all the scales and you take liberties, that's jazz.
	If you just play random notes, it's not even music.
	Exactly.
	And when you watch these performances now, it's not as though they are playing with the line or just pushing past the line.
	There's no line anymore.
	So in a way, it was shocking how unshocking it was.
	It was shocking that you saw this and you knew you were supposed to be kind of shocked.
	But at the same time, it was like, this is, as Matt was saying, perfectly...
	Not only predictable, but almost blasé.
	It wasn't even like, this is so shockingly pornographic and sexy.
	It was like, this almost, it felt like...
	It's grotesque.
	It's grotesquery, yeah.
	I mean, it's closer to, you know, watching just...
	Either animals at a park or closer to being in anatomy lab.
	There was nothing about it that was romantic or interesting in any way, obviously.
	It's also sad.
	I mean, this is the thing.
	You're not shocked anymore.
	Even when you were arguing with Cardi B, I was thinking, aside from your association with us, you're an elegant, well-spoken, intelligent young lady, talking to this woman who's acting like an animal on stage, and the press is going like, ah, she really gave it to Candace.
	Like, Just putting them together is sad.
	I'm sorry for this woman.
	And the thing is, what you said, Candice, is exactly right.
	She's acting animalistic, but she's not an animal, and so she's degrading herself.
	And this is the part that's sad, is that people in our society are doing this, is that she's so much more than that, right?
	She's a soul, and she's a brain, and she's a mind, and she is all these things, and I mean, beyond all the mockery and all the silliness, which she does bring on herself by seeking it out, because she wants the attention and she wants the money, there is something deeply sad about our society, which has decided to celebrate this sort of behavior, and it does rip away the humanity of the people who participated in it and the people who watch it, I think.
	I don't say this just because you're my friend, but I mentioned it on the show today.
	The left's argument, the left's art with WAP and then the left's argument through WAP is that we're just meat puppets, right?
	We're just kind of our flesh.
	They actually make the opposite argument with transgenderism, but we can get to that later.
	But they just were kind of meat puppets, right?
	If you're black, you've got to vote for Biden.
	If you don't, you ain't black.
	If you're a woman, you've got to behave in a certain way.
	And I think this is why you, Candace, irritate her so much is because you're a woman, you're black, you're If you just looked at the two of you purely physically, you'd say, oh, these are very similar people.
	And yet, you have made totally opposite decisions in your life.
	And it just throws that whole ideology in the trash.
	It's such a challenge to it, I think they can't really take it.
	I think that was one of the more remarkable elements is that obviously she did this performance and everybody reported on it because she wanted everybody to report on it because she was being disgusting.
	And yet it was specifically my 60-second response, right, that really got under her skin in a way that I thought was quite fascinating.
	It's like she could have picked any person talking about it online and yet she was just so focused on me.
	So it's like there's something about me that bothers you.
	And I think, to be honest with you, in just seeing the spiral of her tweets and how she was trying to pull anything about me, right, she's like, You make your husband a sandwich!
	Ah!
	And I was like, are we really doing this?
	Like, yes, I make my husband sit.
	Caught me.
	You know?
	And I think she's embarrassed.
	I think deep down and I said this to her.
	I agree with you.
	Yeah, I think at the end of the day, you can play pretend, but at night you have to go to sleep with you and your own thoughts, and that cannot feel good.
	And Noles is right.
	It's like she's looking in a mirror and the mirror is showing her something else she could have been.
	I thought the sandwich line was especially revealing because she's rejecting...
	It's a very feminine thing to be a caretaker, to take care of your husband and your family.
	She's rejecting all that's feminine.
	And then it's interesting because we see in the culture just this week, really, we see two examples of what happens.
	When prominent women reject their femininity.
	So you've got Cardi B rolling around on the stage.
	And it is very just sad to watch.
	That's maybe the primary emotion that I feel actually is sad when I watch.
	Can we agree as four men on the show that there was actually nothing sexy about the performance?
	I just want to cut you off for a second.
	There are five of us.
	I don't know what this is about.
	He's just four men.
	- Oh, okay.
	There's nothing remotely sexy about it.
	That's why it's, being sad is not, you know, for me that's not a turn on to be sad.
	Some people are into different things though.
	But then you also have, at the same time, you've also got Elliot Page now.
	And this picture on Time Magazine, I look at that and I think this is really incredibly sad to look at that.
	This woman who was an attractive woman and now is this kind of frail-looking man or a person trying to imitate a man, rejecting her femininity.
	And this is the two things that happen in this culture when you reject femininity.
	You've got Cardi B. But isn't it weird that you're getting these two opposing ideas by the left?
	Both ideas are aimed at destroying our old understanding, the old standards or whatever you want to call it.
	But there are opposite ideas.
	The one is we're just meat puppets.
	We're just kind of bumping and grinding.
	It's all about the WAP, right?
	That's the materialist idea.
	And then there's the Gnostic idea that my body has nothing to do with who I really am.
	If Ellen Page says, you know, my biology is all woman, but I feel in my metaphysical deep, deep down that I'm a man, then I'm not even a combination.
	I'm just a man.
	It's just my immaterial self.
	You can't hold those two views simultaneously.
	You can.
	I think the problem is that you're assuming that this ideology is that.
	You're assuming that the ideology actually has a framework of a logical consistency.
	But it isn't.
	To your point about anti-culture, it's an anti-ideology.
	It's actually...
	It's whatever you think, whatever system you adhere to is wrong.
	Those systems must be torn down in favor of the individual, in favor of individual expression.
	The remarkable thing is that it makes them all miserable.
	They're doing the opposite and they're miserable.
	Everything about their lives, and this has always been my challenge because I consider myself, I always say...
	I'm not a feminist.
	I'm a proud non-feminist, right?
	And I'm talking about, obviously, modern feminism, which is not about uplifting women.
	It's not about equality with men.
	And I say to these young girls that follow me, find me a feminist and let's examine whether they're happy, right?
	Chelsea Handler, do you think she's happy?
	Right?
	Cardi B, look at her life.
	Do you think she's happy?
	All these people that are telling you, ah, men are horrible.
	We gotta do this.
	Look at them objectively and say, is that the life I want to have when I get older?
	And who will make Elliot Page a sandwich?
	Right?
	Candace, we have a question for Candace from the Daily Wire audience.
	The question, Candace, I love that you are on the front lines of the culture war engaging with prominent industry figures like Cardi B. How did you develop the confidence to speak publicly while receiving so much backlash?
	That's a good question.
	Yeah, it's a very good question.
	And I'm going to say one thing and everyone's going to be like, oh, this is ridiculous.
	But first and foremost, I always say I'm a pretty formed person.
	I'm confident in who I am.
	I stand on my two feet.
	And a lot of that came from first because I took a very liberal route to conservatism.
	So having done so many things wrong that like when you're screaming, oh, Yeah, feminism.
	I say feminism, it's like trying drugs in college.
	You know what I mean?
	You've got to come out the other side before you become an addict and ruin your whole life, right?
	And so experimenting with these things that made me—I was miserable.
	I was miserable when I was a liberal.
	I mean, that's really the best way to say it.
	And then so I was so sure when I became a conservative and everything just got better by just— Believing in discipline.
	Believing that this all does mean something.
	Falling back into religion.
	I kind of abandoned Christianity for a while and became an atheist in a way.
	I realized that my grandparents got something right.
	I was happy when I started living like that.
	The second thing, and people don't understand this, Kanye West genuinely inspired me when I decided that I was going to jump into politics.
	I'll never forget.
	I was listening to his song on repeat, When I was like, I'm going to do this, but I need to know that, like, you just have to stop.
	You have to not care what anybody else thinks.
	And that is written into the DNA of Kanye West's music for people that follow culture.
	He has always been a person who does not care what other people think.
	You cannot care what other people think.
	You have to just kind of go into it and say, I'm jumping out of the window.
	And, you know, that's a line from one of his songs.
	And he's like, it's going to be a beautiful death.
	And it's a great time to mention that Kanye West is now worth $6.6 billion as of today.
	He's the richest black man.
	Is he really?
	That's ever in the United States.
	What's really both inspiring and tragic about what you just said is that music helped you find yourself.
	Music helped you find the path to be who you are.
	And I think that that's a good coda to the conversation about Cardi B, which is there is a consequence to the fact that our culture is descending into this madness, which is music probably more than any other art form has such a power.
	I always say that if you want to judge the sort of theological integrity of a church, you shouldn't listen to the pastor.
	Nobody else does.
	It's really the songs.
	It's what people sing in their own voice, the power of hearing your voice lifted in song, singing along with the radio.
	Chinese philosopher, if you want to determine the morals of a society, its music will furnish the answers.
	And that's a question to ask the black America.
	If the music determines the answer, what are we producing right now?
	What is Cardi B producing?
	And that's what I say.
	It's not good.
	Because what you put into your ear, the thoughts become things.
	And so I don't listen to trash music anymore.
	I listened to it when I was younger.
	I just don't.
	I'm like, you know...
	Can I say, we can't have someone here who's going to pull out Confucius quotes?
	No, that's true.
	Because I can't keep up with that.
	No, it makes us look good.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Tone it down.
	Tone it down a bit.
	As Michael said.
	As Michael said.
	But there's this contrary strain, as you say this, right?
	I don't listen to much pop music at all.
	I don't think most of us listen to a ton of pop music.
	I do.
	A little touch every now and again.
	Candice is the most in touch with the culture.
	Kanye releases a gospel album.
	Like, what, a couple years ago?
	I mean, it was a pretty good album.
	I really liked it, actually.
	So there is also that.
	I mean, he's probably the biggest star, basically, in the world.
	So what does that mean?
	That you've got WAP and you've got Jesus is king.
	Both coming out around the same time.
	It's interesting.
	And I will say this, because this news of Kanye becoming the wealthiest black person that's ever lived in America, in the United States.
	I had a conversation with him a couple of months ago that was so inspiring.
	Maybe it was like two months ago.
	And we were on the phone and he said, this is his exact sentence, by the way.
	I'm not finned to be the poorest one of Elon's friends.
	And then I said to him, you know what?
	I'm not finned to be the poorest one of Kanye's friends.
	Yeah, no.
	And I mean, this is like, he's so inspiring to me for those reasons.
	People just never understood what it was about Kanye West.
	But if you follow his music, in the DNA of his music, he cannot communicate his ideas.
	That's his problem, right?
	He teeters thinly, genius, insanity.
	And like, he's got the ideas here.
	And then when he says it, you're like, whoa, what was that?
	That did not, you know, you did not communicate that correctly.
	But yeah.
	He is always, in a way, really ahead of his time.
	And I knew exactly what he meant when he said about Elon Musk.
	And I was like, that's an interesting way to look at yourself.
	The poorest one of Elon's friends.
	I might be the poorest one of Candace's friends.
	I'm really upset to say that.
	We're going to keep it that way.
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	Watch this topical segue.
	With regard to...
	Final note on Cardi B. The thing that really struck me in the exchange that you were having with Cardi B is the way that the media just allowed her to get away with everything.
	She literally just...
	took tweets that were made up out of whole cloth and then threw those at you.
	And the headlines were spat between Cardi B and Candace.
	Now, if you'd made up something as ridiculous as she made up about you and then put it out there, and then she'd threatened to sue you, we all know what the headline would have been.
	But you're not on the proper side of the political aisle, and she is on the proper side of the political aisle.
	Cardi B has confessed to drugging and robbing men.
	When you talk about what the media will let her get away with, can you imagine any Any, basically, forget any human.
	Right, any human.
	She should be in prison.
	She should right now be in prison until, like, the year 2050, based on the crimes that she confessed to.
	And, you know, we're obviously not into cancel culture around here, but there's a big difference between if she said something offensive, like an offensive tweet 10 years ago, and confessing to violent crimes against other human beings.
	I am into canceling criminals.
	She's like, that's what I had to do.
	Totally.
	I say we should...
	Yeah, so that...
	Cancel criminals.
	Yeah.
	Let's start that hashtag.
	Cancel criminals.
	The broader point is that obviously if you meet with the left's political approval, then you can get away with literally anything.
	Literally anything.
	Up to and including the most vicious sort of racism, obviously.
	And this sort of brings me to the topic that's been eating the news of late, which is the shooting in Atlanta.
	This horrific act of evil by this white guy who shot a bunch of Asian women.
	And the number of pieces, so far there's no evidence that it was racially based.
	It may very well be racially based.
	He says it wasn't.
	Right, he said it wasn't.
	Like racists.
	Always denying that they have racial animus.
	That's the evidence.
	But this is sort of the point, is that if you are of the proper political perspective, you can be as racist as you want to be and accuse every single other person on planet Earth of racism.
	The same exact people who are suggesting that not only this shooting, but all anti-Asian hate crimes in the United States are the result of white supremacy and whiteness.
	Those same exact people are saying that Asian people should be barred from high schools and colleges based on their outstanding level of success academically.
	Also, why is nobody asking the question, These women were working in massage parlors, which were obviously sex parlors.
	Why is nobody asking the question, why are so many Korean women being sold into sex slavery?
	That, to me, is a really racial question that I haven't heard one person say.
	And it is true, by the way.
	It is happening.
	I don't know why it's happening, but I'd like to know.
	I think that's one of the truly...
	It's degrading, awful experiences that are taking place in our culture now.
	People talk about slavery that's been over for a hundred years, but they don't talk about this is slavery.
	It is slavery when you come over and they tell you...
	And a good culture would be talking about that, right?
	The treatment of these women before, they were, you know...
	Murdered in the most egregious fashion.
	That's right.
	I'm sure they didn't sign up.
	They didn't come here thinking, wow, I can be a sex slave.
	I mean, there's so many issues here.
	The evil of men who are living in a pornified culture.
	The lengths to which those men will go to do acts of evil to women.
	You know, there's so many different topics that are really of interest.
	The one that seems the least of interest in a situation where we literally have no evidence that this was a racially-based crime is the racist angle, but naturally it turned into Donald Trump said Wuhan virus, therefore this guy went and shot up a bunch of brothels, what looked like brothels.
	It also, you know, right now, to call someone a racist is the worst thing you can be called.
	Racism is the only sin, right?
	It's the only crime in the culture.
	It's getting boring now.
	It's like everybody's called a racist now.
	But that's why they changed the language, right?
	Because they realized that the racist charge had stopped having the same sort of impact that it had because they'd applied it to literally everyone.
	So everybody went, okay, well, if he's racist, then racism doesn't mean anything.
	Right.
	So instead, what they did was they recognized that there was still a term that had a lot of currency, white supremacist, right?
	Because when you think white supremacist, you think of the skinhead with the Nazi tattoo on his neck who's shooting up the West Valley JCC, right?
	That's what you think of.
	And so what they did is then they laundered the term white supremacist into white supremacy, and white supremacy was no longer a philosophy whereby white people were superior to other people.
	It was a philosophy whereby all of America's institutions that end with inequality of outcome were infused with white supremacy.
	Right, yeah.
	And therefore, to be anti-racist and anti-white supremacy meant you had to oppose all of America's institutions.
	They wandered the term racist into white supremacist, into white supremacy, and now into whiteness.
	They do that all the time, though.
	They're liberals, they're leftists, they're progressives.
	As people find out what they are, they change the word to keep ahead of the show.
	But it's broadened out so much now that they are overtly being racist.
	We're talking about segregating colleges.
	I mean, there was a piece literally today in the root.
	They were doing serogating ceremonies, graduation ceremonies.
	I mean, serogation, I've been talking about this for years.
	There are certain black-only dorms.
	Okay, so you mean we're so woke black people that all they had to do was repackage it to us?
	Like, really?
	We're actually going to serogate ourselves.
	Thank you very much.
	It's implausibly stupid.
	And black Americans, enough of them, are not realizing this.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	It's like, obviously me, I speak up and I'm like, guys, hello.
	Remember that whole, like, period where we tried to, like, desegregate?
	You're just choosing it.
	Well, it's empowering now because I'm choosing desegregate.
	It's gone, but it's gone.
	What's really frightening, though, is what Jeremy said before, is that when I think about What the endgame is, there is no realistic endgame that they can reach.
	And it's almost as if they're just locusts.
	It's like you said, it's an anti-philosophy.
	It's not a philosophy.
	It's not a vision of what the world could be.
	Well, you could kill America in the process, right?
	Because it doesn't work this way.
	It's no longer a meritocracy.
	But anybody can kick over a sandcastle.
	It's hard to build a plan.
	California, they're no longer allowed to flunk black students on the basis of not showing up.
	Right.
	Think about this.
	So, like, they saw too many black kids were flunking because they just weren't coming to school, and they said, we're not allowed to do that anymore.
	They got rid of the concept of flunking.
	A teacher just got canceled.
	I'm sure you saw this.
	At Georgetown?
	Yeah.
	The Georgetown law professor?
	Yeah, because she told the truth.
	She said, every time I check at the bottom of my class, the majority of the students are black.
	For saying that on, you know, yeah, exactly.
	It was a Zoom session.
	A Zoom session.
	For saying, acknowledging the truth about people.
	They said, well, you're racist.
	That's the only way that could be happening.
	True.
	She's saying it was bad.
	She's saying it was bad.
	What do we do about it?
	She's saying some of my best students are black, but disproportionately a lot of my worst students are black.
	How can I make this difference?
	Right.
	And she got in trouble.
	They said, well, you must be racist.
	The Smithsonian Institute said a year ago that the nuclear family and work ethic, the Protestant work ethic, and objective truth are tools of white supremacy.
	Being on time.
	It's a tool of white supremacy.
	But what I want to know is this, especially with regard to this shooting in Atlanta at the massage parlor.
	The guy who's perpetrated it says, I am a sex addict and I gave into lust and that was the sin that drove me to this.
	And everyone said, well, no, you're a racist.
	Racism is what?
	It's wrath and pride, basically.
	Those are the two deadly sins that lead you to racism.
	Can it also be other sins?
	Couldn't it be lust?
	Couldn't it be...
	Like, why is it that as a culture we've completely lost a sense of all the other sins, all the other vices, and it's just this one very particular sin of racism?
	It's all malleable also, right?
	There was an entire article today in the New York Times...
	About how this guy had claimed that it was because he had a sex addiction and because he was addicted to sex, this is what drove him to this list.
	He's a piece of crap and, you know, his views are of no consequence.
	But if we're talking about societal trends that are a problem, you know, when you talk about sex addiction and pornography addiction, I mean, pornography addiction is a very real thing in our society for sure.
	But what the piece said, and this is the part that was hilarious, said experts doubt that sex addiction leads to this.
	I'm old enough, so here's the thing.
	I'm old enough to remember when Bill Clinton claimed that he was a sex addict.
	And the entire media went, oh, well, you know, that's a thing.
	First of all, if you want to talk about a sex addict, that's just called a man.
	It's a man.
	The best thing about sex addiction is that the 1-800 number to get help starts off with, for a good time call.
	It's not that.
	Yeah, I think one of the dangers here, to Drew's point, that, well, there's a question about why are all these women ending up in sex trafficking?
	Michael, you point out, well, sex addiction, why did that drive them to it?
	So because we're so focused on racism, we're neglecting every other societal problem.
	And there are a lot of really interesting and important questions that we should be asking and dealing with.
	That's the point.
	And it's just like...
	There was the awful case a week ago of the black teenagers breaking into a guy's house, a white man, mentally disabled, setting him on fire.
	These kids are 16 and 14 years old.
	And they break in, and we still don't know why.
	And this is hardly being reported by the media.
	And of course, the races, if it is reported, the races are taken out of the store completely.
	But 16 and 14 year old black kids go into a white man's house, set him on fire, watch him burn for a little bit, and then just leave.
	And he dies.
	And we should be asking the question, what is going on in this country that would lead a 14-year-old kid, black or white, it doesn't matter his race, what is going on that would lead a 14-year-old kid to do that?
	But that's a question we're just not talking about because we can't talk about the...
	But that's the point.
	It's intentional.
	They want us to focus on race because they're destroying America, right?
	This is the easiest way to destroy America, right?
	So you're saying, look over here, look over here, but we're burning down all of these things.
	They don't want you to address the actual ill.
	But I have a theory about this that we have never talked about before, I think, which is I think the culpability of the church and the reason that the church is in such trouble in America.
	You know, David French often talks about how The evangelical church has lost its way as is evidenced by its support of Donald Trump.
	And he'll say, if you go back to the late 90s during Clinton impeachment, mid-90s, you have, I don't know what it's called, but all the pastors got together and signed the Frenchian Accords where they said that it's very bad and character is destiny.
	And now we've forsaken that and the church has lost its way and now it's just an instrument of politics.
	And I've been thinking about that now for the last two years.
	And I believe that The church actually did lose its way, David's correct, but it lost its way in the 90s, not now.
	In the late 80s and the 90s, the church made a decision which culminated in the impeachment saga, which was that the church was going to go all in as a political instrument in the country.
	They did it in the name of being the moral majority.
	And they carried freight for the Republican Party, who was having a hard time explaining the simple concept of, because we're so bad at media, Republicans, they couldn't explain the simple concept of perjury to the American people and make them care.
	And so the church said, well, don't worry, we've got it.
	We're going to say that it's about something that it actually isn't about, which is, you know, a man laid down with a woman and a cigar, and we definitely need to kick him out of, I think they were laid down.
	Love is love.
	Love is love.
	But that whole idea of the church as a moral instrument as opposed to the church as a community of people seeking righteousness from God, righteousness is a distinct concept from morality.
	And when the church went all in on morality, which does have a massive cultural component, I think that they were sealing their fate because in the late 80s, The morals that the church cared the most about were like, don't say bad words, don't have sex before you're married, and don't smoke.
	And the morals of our country have changed, and the majority morals within the church now are, don't be racist.
	Don't apologize for your whiteness.
	And I guess wear a mask.
	Don't offend anybody else.
	I take issue with part of this because I think, first of all, the original sin was in the Reagan era when they became the moral.
	That's when they became the moral majority.
	It was a reaction to abortion.
	It was the idea that, oh, these people in Washington, you know, just Supreme Court judges, not elected officials, can suddenly say you can't make a law about abortion.
	And I think that woke a lot of evangelicals up to the fact that the culture was going south.
	The problem to me is not about morality or righteousness.
	The problem is about the world.
	The church was never there to make the world a better place.
	There's no place in the gospels where Jesus says, go out and make the world a better place.
	What he says to you is the world sucks.
	In this world, you will have your problem.
	And you are going to get crucified and then proved it, that that's what's going to happen to you.
	And what they want is to be relevant.
	I mean, I think John MacArthur talks about this all the time.
	They want to have an effect on the world instead of having an effect on people's souls.
	Now, yes, if people's souls are saved, I think that's going to make for a better world, but that is an actual secondary point.
	Once the church decided that it was going to be an engine for world change, for world betterment, they were lost because the world is a bad place.
	I don't think what we're saying is radically different.
	It's not radically different.
	Because what I'm saying about morality, ultimately, is that righteousness can't be judged with human eyes.
	This is why Christ says, if you have lust in your heart, you are an adulterer.
	Or if you have hate for your brother, you are a murderer.
	He's not Yoda.
	He doesn't say, if you have hate for your brother, on the path to murderer, you are one.
	Because God sees the heart of a man.
	His judgment isn't limited like ours is to just the things that we can measure and observe with our senses.
	Morality is the things that we can measure and observe with our senses.
	And so when the church goes in for morality, it's...
	I think it's the same thing.
	We're basically saying that the church was only interested in what it could measure and not in the actual substance that undergirds the things that could measure.
	I mean, there is, you know, when Jesus is asked, how will I be saved?
	He does reference six of the Ten Commandments.
	I mean, there is a moral law.
	I think there is a natural moral law that we live by and basic things that you can't do and be moral.
	Yeah, don't smoke, don't say bad words, don't have sex before marriage, and don't be racist.
	And wear a mask.
	And wear a mask.
	Don't forget that.
	And wear a mask.
	The problem is more, I know you don't like this term, but it seems to me the problem is more the church gave up on objective morality.
	You're talking about the church adopting the morality of the age and how it changes over time, which of course, that's exactly the problem.
	And it's absurd that people are going and sitting down in pews and listening to sermons about the dangers of racism.
	Every single person agrees.
	You don't need to say it.
	There's no reason to give a sermon on it.
	What they've gotten rid of is the fundamental universal morality, and we're not talking about that as much.
	I know you don't like the objective morality term.
	I don't like the term objective morality, but I don't fundamentally disagree with what you're saying.
	I disagree with the language around what you're saying.
	God's standard is himself.
	God's standard is righteousness.
	And my understanding of the gospel is that he says that the only way that you attain that righteousness is as a gift.
	As Corinthians says, one Corinthians, not two Corinthians.
	He says, Christ has become for us wisdom from God.
	That is, he has become righteousness.
	Or as Romans says, now a righteousness made manifest apart from the moral law, apart from the law, the righteousness that's found through the faith of Jesus or in the faith of Jesus Christ has become righteousness.
	But he does say that the law will be written on your heart.
	But that's, again, now we're talking about the unmeasurable thing.
	We're talking about the heart of a man, which is where God lives, which is where righteousness lives.
	There is a sense, too, I think, on this distinction between objective morality and this kind of culturally relativistic thing where it's always changing and we didn't smoke cigarettes in the 80s and now it's whatever, wear a mask, is the traditional understanding of conscience, of your moral conscience, is that it is a judgment of reason.
	not just like my feels, man, and it's not like what Dr. Fauci tells me it is one day.
	It's like you can rely on your faculties of reason to, very imperfectly, but still with some reliability, measure the difference between good and bad.
	And we've completely lost that.
	But even Aquinas talks about when we rely on reason, it's reason in coordination with We all have to acknowledge that the basis that we are using our reason upon is revelation, because reason unmoored ends with the catastrophes of the 19th and 20th centuries.
	And so what we're watching right now is that happen when...
	Churches, synagogues, when they refuse to speak in religious terminology, when they refuse to talk about the inerrant word of God, and instead when they start talking about kind of broad moral terminology without that underpinning, this is why you end with this bizarre situation where the Pope reaffirms 2,000 years of teaching about same-sex marriage.
	And breaking news, the Pope didn't cave to modern standards of same-sex marriage and transgenderism.
	Why would you expect him to do so?
	Right.
	And the only reason that society expects him to do so is because they believe that the church is so engaged with the world that it's up to the world to change the church, not the other way around.
	Well, I love this point because in a sane culture, the shocking breaking news would be if the pontiff presiding over the most enduring institution in the entire civilization...
	Just changed the views overnight.
	That would be the shocking thing.
	But in this world, where we're so absolutely imbibing progressivism all the time, we're so intoxicated on it, the shock is that he doesn't do it overnight.
	But this is one of the reasons why, on a deeper level...
	Don't share the same framework.
	We're not even speaking within the same framework.
	That's it.
	It's funny because I would then add that I actually think one of the biggest issues, and obviously this is, I think what underpins everything we're discussing, though, and it goes back to like reason, is that people just don't think critically because we are actually producing people not to think.
	I mean, how many people do you think that go to church have ever even actually read the Bible?
	Oh, very few.
	I walk around D.C. My husband and I live in D.C. and literally I see LGBT flags on the churches.
	Black Lives Matter flags on the churches.
	This is actually, they have become political institutions.
	When you fly a pride flag of any kind.
	That's right.
	Maybe read page three.
	Open up your Bible to page three.
	It's fascinating.
	My gluttony flag.
	Yeah.
	And it's like, you know, trying to find a church, when we were trying to find a good church in D.C., it was incredible.
	I mean, it was just, I'm really going, we've just gotten so far, and then you couple that with the education system, where they're actually teaching kids to suspend critical thinking, just remember what we're telling you, right?
	So they wouldn't even be able to reason.
	The kids can't reason at all, right?
	And this takes us all the way back to the Greeks, right?
	And Socrates, and running around and saying, take care of yourself, right?
	Immanuel Kant, the Enlightenment.
	Like, there's so many...
	I just feel like society is just...
	It's almost cyclical at this point, right?
	Where it's like people don't think, they just do.
	And we're at the part where, you know, you get a little nervous about the state of things today and what's going to happen with America because if you speak to the average child, they're just...
	They don't think at all.
	What's new, I think, right now, and I've been referring to this book because I really think it's fabulous.
	There's a book by Carl Truman called The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self, and I think it's...
	Tremendously explanatory of just where we are as a society.
	And that is that we, over the past couple of hundred years, have redefined what happiness means.
	What happiness used to mean, and for most civilizations meant, is that you as a child were a barbarian.
	Kids are barbarians.
	Anyone who has kids knows that small children are barbarians.
	As the father of three young children, they are wonderful barbarians.
	That's where they are.
	They're innocent, wonderful, tremendous barbarians.
	And your job to make them happy is to teach them about the nature of the world and the realities of the world and how they can adapt to living within that world.
	That is the job of a parent.
	You don't want your kids to run the streets, they'll get hit by a car, and you don't want them to violate the laws of nature because then they will be cutting against their own nature and the reality that surrounds them.
	Well, in the early...
	In the mid-18th century, there's this move away from individuals are defined by reference to their institutions and how they adapt to those institutions to individuals are defined by what they are inside.
	This is a very Rousseau move where your individual happiness is now reliant on your ability to define yourself however you see fit.
	Now, he didn't feel that was super dangerous because he was still living inside a set of rules and boundaries that he took for granted, but then those rules and boundaries went away.
	I mean, this is Nietzsche's point, right?
	Once you get rid of the rules and boundaries, then without God, with God being dead, who's to define any of these rules and boundaries?
	And so now the only thing left that matters in this world is how you define yourself on the inside, right?
	Because all of the rules and boundaries, those are actually impediments to how you define yourself.
	So the point that Carl Truman makes, and he brings this forward to transgenderism, is that religious people, traditionally conservative people, they look at How can you say that I identify as something that I obviously am not?
	And how can it be that when I say you're obviously not that, this makes me a bigot?
	And also if I say biology says you are not this, how does that make me a bigot?
	How is that even possible?
	That's why I brought up Emmanuel Camp, because you can't define yourself unless you can think.
	You get what I'm saying?
	There is no thinking.
	There is no reasoning.
	How are they going to define themselves?
	The point that Truman is making is that because self-definition has now been defined as happiness, as opposed to adapting to the circumstances around you in accordance with reason.
	Which used to be called virtue.
	Because we got rid of virtue, the basic idea of happiness is whatever floats my boat, but the rest of the world has to adapt to the flotation of my boat.
	If the rest of the world puts a hole in my boat, the rest of the world has imposed on me.
	If biology puts a hole in my boat, biology has imposed on me.
	Because I am this thing on the inside that defines itself.
	And all of nature, all of humanity, has to adapt itself to my whim.
	Otherwise, it's an actual harm.
	And that's why when people say, you're harming me because you're denying my existence.
	I'm not denying.
	I see you right there.
	You're a person.
	I just disagree with you.
	No, you're denying their existence because as soon as you deny their ability to express themselves and to identify as they see fit, it's the only thing in the entire world that matters.
	And so it is not enough to say, do whatever you want in the privacy of your own home or your nidalgo gets whatever surgeries you want.
	That's not enough.
	People require approval.
	People require that you cheer for them.
	And if you don't cheer for them, it's an active violation of who they are.
	Well, what I know for an absolute fact is that the definition of happiness is having lots and lots of stuff.
	Yeah, of course.
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	Yeah, just jumping on that book, which I only just started reading it, but what I found attractive about it is that Truman is taking transgenderism as the starting point As this obviously incredibly significant fact about our civilization, maybe the most significant fact, right now is transgenderism because it speaks to our idea of the self.
	And this goes to, like, another problem we have is that conservatives often are very slow to understand and react to what's happening in the culture.
	So I can remember five years ago talking about transgenderism.
	And the response that I would always get from conservatives, even now sometimes, but certainly five years ago, was, why are you talking about this?
	It's a sideshow.
	It's a fad.
	It'll go away.
	And my point then and now is, no, no, no, no, no.
	This is the fact that this makes sense to so many people.
	That's right.
	They have an idea of fundamental reality, which is absolutely divorced from me.
	And it's an almost unbridgeable divide.
	And if we get to a point where...
	Half of the country, 80% of the country, has that idea of the self, as a self that you can simply make yourself based on your own emotions and your own whims, then we just...
	Well, we're finished.
	We're finished as one country.
	It's ultimate subjectivism, right?
	Because the only thing that matters is how you identify...
	Interior, in your interior life, which no one has access to, right?
	And every single other objective claim about the universe is a threat to that.
	So if you bring data, you're now a bigot, right?
	We've all felt this, right?
	You bring data, you bring biology.
	If you make objective claims about the world, if you ask for data, right, all of this is a sign that you are intolerant and a bigot.
	But also believe the science.
	This grows out of, I was talking to Matt about this before the show started, this grows out of one of Russo's children, who is Foucault.
	And I read Foucault and Derrida when they first started coming out, but then I decided to go back and I'm rereading one of Foucault's major books called The Nature of Things, The Order of Things.
	And he's a grifter.
	Which didn't occur to me the first time I read it, because I thought this was kind of interesting philosophy.
	But he makes the point that natural science is a complete invention because all of biology is one thing, and it's only us imposing this order on it.
	And my first thought was, that's interesting until a turkey tries to mate with a coyote, and then you realize, no, there actually is an order of things.
	And his idea is basically that power constructs all identities.
	This is right.
	Yep.
	If that's true, everything you are is created by me, is created by the powerful people around you who impose that on you.
	And so we have that power to change you.
	And so if you say you're a woman and I say, no, you're not, I'm doing an act of violence to you because my power is a threat to you.
	The fact that none of this is true, it doesn't seem to bother.
	Well, he's French.
	That's what the French do.
	What the French do is they say false things.
	I think that because the power dynamics of the society were perceived to have shifted over the past 10 years, that's why all this stuff is coming to the fore right now.
	Meaning that if you said power decides the fate of societies, back when the left felt it was not in control, then that's a dangerous thing to say.
	Because then the right says, oh, okay, you're saying power decides the fate of societies?
	Well, we have some ideas about what we can do with that power.
	It was only during, I think, probably Barack Obama's second term when the left thought they were never going to lose another election.
	It's why Trump came as such a shock to them.
	Because they thought, literally, they had created the unbreakable coalition.
	They were never going to lose another election.
	They were the coalition of the ascendant.
	I mean, there were so many articles about the browning of America because demographics was destiny.
	Unshakably, Democrats were going to continue to win for all time.
	And all of that was false and all of that was nonsense.
	But it was at that point they started to say, you know what?
	Everything in life is defined by power, but now we wield the power.
	And because we wield the power, we can reshape all of these institutions.
	And that has never let up.
	The desire to reshape all the institutions.
	And Biden, now with his victory, feels that he gets to reshape all the institutions.
	I mean, the notions of Ibram Kendi have now entered.
	I mean, talk about a grifter.
	The notions of Ibram Kendi have entered every aspect of American government from top to bottom.
	It's insanity.
	I mean, the State Department declared today that they were going to redo how they staffed the State Department on the basis of equity, and they were going to achieve racial balance in the State Department.
	I said I was going to hire all white people, and I got like 20 lawsuits.
	Does anybody else feel, though, that we're living in an illusion in the sense that we're actually at the end of something?
	We're not at the beginning of something.
	They think that they're at the beginning of leftist paradise.
	But I can't help noticing that even though Biden is doing some things that are radical, that really all he's doing is he's stealing your grandchildren's money to prop up things that have already failed, like pensions and Obamacare and all these socialist ideas that have just failed.
	I can't help feeling that...
	We're at the end of an epoch.
	Well, of course we are.
	That's why our presidents keep getting older and older.
	We've had three presidents who were born in 1946, and now we have one who was born in, what, 45?
	It's a very bad sign for society when you can't make generational change in your chief executive position.
	You know, there is, too, this, like, just, it's pure will, right?
	It's this imposition of will, to Ben's point.
	Once you have unfettered self-definition, it's all just whatever I want, I'm going to get.
	And it gets to your point, Candace, which is...
	You can't think and they won't let you think.
	I know that references to George Orwell, like references to Hitler and the fall of Rome, are usually tedious and overdone.
	But here's one that I think really matters.
	In 1984, Orwell says they control the public through the new speak, through this kind of PC jargon, and through surveillance and all these things.
	But most of all, through double-think, through getting you to think mutually contradictory ideas at the same time, like materialism and Gnostic transgenderism, or whatever.
	Use whatever example it is.
	Because they can't allow you to think.
	And this idea that these Boomers are just holding on to power and the presidents are getting older and they're going to steal from the young and the unborn and they're going to give it.
	To me, it's such a gross act of will.
	All of the censorship is based on this, right?
	They will not have any reasonable debate.
	It would seem to me that this can't last forever.
	It might last for a little while.
	I think the clash is yet to come, though.
	Meaning that I think Biden is a mask for the clash that's about to happen.
	This is the reason the Democrats need President Houseplant.
	They need him there because he's hiding that stain on the rug.
	And right now, if something were to happen to him, God forbid, because you don't want anything to happen to anybody, but if something happens to Biden, God forbid, and Kamala Harris becomes president, then you see this break out in the open.
	Because Biden is just a moderate face on extraordinarily radical ideas and policy.
	And he's been able to avoid every question from the media because they are in league with all these ideas.
	And most Americans don't find him threatening because who finds this old cooch shuffling around can't string together a sentence threatening?
	There's nothing threatening.
	Everyone's a little embarrassed by him.
	And you don't feel bad about him.
	You don't feel like...
	It's hard to...
	You don't hate the guy.
	It's like elder abuse.
	I actually genuinely...
	I have declined to make fun of him because there's something really wrong about the fact that every single person in the world knows that this is a man in decline.
	Every single person understands that he's senile.
	We have Putin making jokes.
	Think about this.
	Think about the national security risk.
	Putin's making jokes.
	We're seen as a joke right now on the world stage.
	And, you know, I have to say that...
	The vice president is getting the presidential brief.
	Yeah.
	He called it President Harris today.
	He did, yeah.
	He called her President Harris on his campaign.
	I mean, he was saying, you know, this campaign, I mean, he just wasn't there.
	And they kept saying, oh, it's because of COVID, we're hiding him.
	And it's like, it was so obvious, you're fooling no one, least of all everybody else in the world.
	America looks weakened.
	But I have to say that I feel more optimistic about it, because when you see this increase in censorship, it's not because they're winning, right?
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Like when Barack Obama won, they didn't have to have a ton of censorship because people actually voted for him.
	Like, you know, people really loved Barack Obama.
	It was like kinetic on the ground.
	You could feel that energy, you know, about Barack Obama.
	You don't feel that about Joe Biden, right?
	So the Democrats, like you said, were very surprised by a Trump win.
	They know that so many people in this country don't like them and passionately hate them, is what we should say, right?
	At least...
	75, 80 million Americans passionately hate the Democrats.
	So I think they're actually feeling apprehensive right now in this moment, which is why they're rushing through these policies of censorship, censorship, safety, safety.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And doing all this stuff is because they don't feel comfortable right now.
	I think we talked about this the last time.
	They're not acting like they won.
	You know what I mean?
	Winners feel a little bit more confident.
	They're not acting confident right now.
	And they know they don't have the answers, especially on something like the gender topic.
	They know that they don't have any responses to the arguments that we present because what they're saying is incoherent.
	That's why it's so instructive that Amazon, like the one book that they're censoring is Ryan T. Anderson's book on transgenderism.
	With the great title.
	Yeah.
	When Harry Became Sally.
	Such a great title.
	And there are so many other conservative books out there, many of them way more aggressive and objectionable from the left standards than this.
	But I think they're starting here because they know that, number one, this is a crucial, fundamental issue.
	And also, they simply have no response to that at all.
	And they know it.
	So all they can do is shut it down.
	The problem is they have the power to shut down everything, any argument, because they own all the institutions.
	And that's the biggest problem, the institutions.
	Yeah.
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	Michael, it blows my mind, says a Daily Wire subscriber, that the left has changed its stance on the kids in cages story.
	How bad is the crisis at the border, and why can the Biden administration just get away with all of this?
	Why wouldn't they be able to get away with all that?
	What are you talking about?
	As Trump famously said, it was one of the best lines of, unfortunately, an unsuccessful campaign.
	He said, who built the cages, Joe?
	Who built the cages, Joe?
	Because they had this problem under Obama, the Obama-Biden administration.
	And by the way, the policies that were being criticized went back even further.
	They went back to the Clinton administration.
	And so it was always a disingenuous attack against Trump.
	Jen Psaki, I thought, had a great line the other day.
	When liberal journalists finally started asking or saying, hold on, You're separating kids from their parents or whatever the adult was that was bringing them.
	You're putting them in cages at way higher numbers than Trump ever did.
	You're doing it during a pandemic.
	That doesn't seem so hot.
	What's up with that?
	Why are you doing that?
	And what does Jen Psaki say as they're cutting off all media access to the cages?
	She says...
	There's not a lot of options.
	Right.
	There weren't a lot of options during the Trump administration, too.
	And the problem here is that you've got horrible incentives being pushed by the Biden administration, where he says on the campaign trail, come, surge the border, get on over here.
	You're still hearing this from the Secretary of DHS. He's saying, yeah, don't come now, but like, you know, what, two months come and then it'll be fine.
	So you're creating all these incentives.
	Who the hell's going to listen to that, right?
	Who's going to be like, oh yeah, you're right, now that you've surged four Don't rob the bank right now.
	We'll have the security there later, guys.
	Don't try to take over Afghanistan.
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	Here's a question for Candace from Drew.
	Hey, why doesn't Jeremy call on me more often?
	No, it's a different group.
	He wants to know, because the left's vision of identity politics, whatever happened to Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream of judging someone, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character?
	Seems like such a famous quote from such a well-known civil rights activist has been forgotten or ignored today.
	Yeah, his dream became a nightmare.
	They literally want you to only judge on the basis of skin.
	It's the exact opposite.
	And like you said, it's all of these competing points where they say, oh yes, we should prop him up.
	We need to extend February and I almost called it Black Lives Matter month.
	I can't even think of anything about Black Lives Matter.
	Black History Month.
	Black History Month.
	Black Lives Matter Month.
	No, Black History Month, but they actually know nothing about black history.
	It's incredible.
	You know, the people that they celebrate during black history would be so against everything the left is doing.
	It's so counter to everything that they fought for.
	You know, Frederick Douglass.
	I'm like, what do you know about Frederick Douglass?
	Like, what do you know about Booker T. Washington?
	Have you read Up From Slavery?
	They know absolutely nothing, because if they did know...
	If they were actually educated about these people and they weren't just, you know, one-liners to put on your Twitter, they'd all be conservative and they'd all be Republican.
	And they'd be on our side.
	So, you know, what happened to his dream is it became a nightmare.
	And it became a nightmare because of the Democrats who were always the racists in this country, who have always seen, you know, the power that they can gain from race.
	And right now, that's all it is.
	Whenever you hear the term racism, you know, to me...
	It's always a power play.
	And the irony, of course, being is that the people that suffer the most because of these policies are black people.
	Do you think black people are going to get ahead when you're teaching them?
	You don't have to be punctual.
	You don't have to get A's.
	You don't have to even try.
	We're going to put you in these schools.
	OK, now you're out of school.
	What happens to you in life?
	We think you're going to get a job at Goldman Sachs knowing nothing.
	You know what?
	You did absolutely nothing.
	But here's a big check for you.
	It doesn't work that way.
	You're actually training them up to be failures, to be non-competitive, so that you can keep propagating this problem of black people having them as the victims and saying, oh, look at you.
	It's been a lot of years and you're still living like this.
	Well, it's because we know nothing.
	But outrage.
	And I will say this because I'm so passionate about this, so I'm over answering this question.
	What they're really doing is they're transforming black Americans into toddlers.
	You talked about how toddlers act, right?
	The idea is to make them emotional.
	Know nothing and you're emotional.
	That is literally what a toddler is, right?
	Why is a toddler scream when you say they can't have candy?
	Because they don't know anything else but emotion.
	They scream.
	So you remove knowledge from someone and teach them that every emotion they have is justified and you create a society of toddlers and that society can survive.
	How conscious do you think?
	Do you think they're doing that on purpose?
	1,000% intentionally.
	1,000% intentionally.
	And so it's so...
	You know, it's just, it's so important right now because the only people that are going to be able to stop this right now, in my opinion, are black Americans.
	As soon as the victims say no thank you, right?
	As soon as you say, like me, this is why they hate me so much, because if I just say, actually, I'm actually not a victim.
	Actually, when you say to me, Candace, that, you know, you're a victim, you're actually, you are the racist.
	You're telling me, when you say white privilege, you're telling me that you're more privileged than me.
	You're literally saying that I'm under you.
	And to get offended when I say no thank you, I don't need it.
	I'm also saying you can't unless I. Yeah, unless I. Yeah, exactly.
	You're treating me like a toddler.
	This goes beyond, I mean, this is what you're talking about, turning people into toddlers and they're emotionally driven.
	That's not just, they're not doing that just to black Americans.
	They're doing that to all Americans.
	And also, on MLK, if I'm to, just on that note of MLK, if I was to prophesy a little bit, like five years in the future, maybe earlier than that, I'd say, for certain, he's getting cancelled.
	And those monuments are going to come down.
	And it seems shocking now, but that will happen.
	Because, number one, his message, they don't like.
	And, number two, he was a flawed man.
	He was a deeply flawed, imperfect man, as all great men.
	All people are deeply flawed.
	Great people tend to have great flaws.
	And he did, too.
	So, that's going to happen even to MLK. Even the...
	The great historical heroes that still survive now eventually.
	Yeah, the left has to eat its own because no one can live up to their ever-evolving.
	My theory is that in the future, it's not that there will be monuments, but the monuments will be monuments to brutality.
	Meaning that they won't actually be able to build a monument to anyone because everyone is flawed.
	And so that means all the monuments have to come down.
	So instead, it'll just be a statue of George Washington whipping a slave.
	Really, that will be the statues of the future.
	The statues of the future will be all of America's sins encapsulated into marble.
	My prediction of cancellation is George Orwell.
	They're going to find something on him and say, this entire book is now canceled because it's exactly what they're doing.
	It's almost like a playbook.
	But what they're doing to Orwell is actually much more, I think, insidious, which is that they just reinterpret him to say the opposite of what he was actually saying.
	They don't read.
	That's a pleasant point.
	Everyone I know believes, everyone I went to school with, we didn't read 1984, but we knew the reference, and it was a reference to American right-wing fascists.
	Yes, of course.
	And you see now that they're making this animal farm.
	Is it Netflix?
	I think so, with Christian Bale.
	With Christian Bale.
	You know that that's going to be an anti-Trump.
	You know why, though.
	It's because George Orwell, this is the line they always trot out, is George Orwell was a democratic socialist.
	He actually was.
	And you have to read what he writes about democratic socialism to understand what that means.
	But he says, all of my writing that I've ever undertaken is to promote democratic socialism.
	As I understand it.
	As I understand it, he's doing a lot of work there because he was part of this movement of intellectuals at the time that were turning against Stalin.
	Everyone likes to overstate the distinction between Stalin and Trotsky.
	The right wing does this too.
	We all hate each other, but we broadly agree.
	Fundamentally, the distinction between these Socialist, communist thinkers is one guy won and killed the other guy.
	I was going to say, he had the ice pick.
	The ice pick was the thing.
	So here's a question for me from MGM, which is one of the better studios.
	I am a subscriber from Switzerland, and due to the cultural reach of the U.S., many habits and norms often tend to gain a foothold in Europe after they have sprung up in the States.
	What advice would you give to our continent or a single inhabitant, assuming that we are probably six months to one year behind you in these matters?
	Well, there's nowhere else to go.
	I would have said 100 years ago, go to America, make haste, get to the land of the free.
	But those days are gone.
	I actually think one of the great tragedies in the world right now is that there are no frontiers.
	I think freedom is a frontier mentality.
	One of the things that made America unique is that people from all over Europe who were seeking freedom left.
	They left comfort.
	We don't think about it.
	But they left the first world.
	It's amazing.
	Drew and I actually toured the Ranching Heritage Center in Lubbock, Texas together one time, and I remember one of your observations when we were looking at these old wagons and farm implements and ranch implements from the late 1800s, and these grainy photographs of what the landscape looked like and what people were enduring at that time.
	You said, for God's sakes, I think it's one of the reasons that Elon Musk is kind of an inspiring figure.
	Whether or not you think that man can thrive on Mars, I'm skeptical.
	We can't even thrive in Antarctica.
	But what he's doing is inspiring because what he's saying is what if there is still another frontier?
	What if there is still a place where free spirits can go?
	What if there's still a place where we can start anew and build?
	Because that's what conservatives fundamentally do when we're not conserving.
	What we fundamentally do is create.
	We go, we create, we carve out of the wilderness, we build civilizations, and we do the very hard, risk-heavy work.
	And then over time, after we've done that, after we've cleared the path, then the leeches can show up.
	And they can just slowly pull all the things that we built down and sort of reappropriate themselves.
	But the very same logic that says your body to some degree defines you says that freedom is a space, is an actual physical space.
	We live in an incarnate world and you have to find a place to be free.
	And I think that that is a problem.
	By the way, quick note on Europe, just to get back to the question about what Europe should do.
	They should say no, and they're starting to say no.
	You're starting to see actual European leaders who are more conservative than people in the United States now.
	That's right.
	Which is humiliating.
	France!
	France came out, and France was like, we don't want any of this critical race theory nonsense.
	That's not how Frenchmen think of each other.
	By the way, I think Le Pen will win.
	By the way, no is the most important word.
	No is the most important word for conservatives today.
	No matter what corner of the globe you happen to occupy.
	It's generally been the most important word forever.
	For all of human history.
	By the way, Ben, to go back to Japan, which I think you guys all know I have a weird fascination with Japan, but look at Japan.
	The rules in Japan in terms of trying to get into this country, which also fascinates me.
	I told you my sister-in-law lives in Japan.
	She lived there for 10 years.
	All of her children were born in Japan.
	She's a missionary there.
	Their kids are not allowed to be citizens of Japan because they're just not Japanese.
	It's just incredible.
	The idea that America is a racist, if you actually go look at the immigration laws of every other country, America is just a mess.
	It's unbelievable, but they're getting something right in terms of the remarkable strides that you have to go through because they really believe in their culture and they unite in this idea of what their culture is.
	Whether you agree with their culture or not doesn't really matter, right?
	But to say, in order, you're not just going to join this club.
	You're not just going to join this club.
	Like, this is a culture, and we believe in it, and they have a culture.
	The problem with America is that we have a bunch of people that don't believe in American culture, right?
	And we have the doors open, and we're saying everybody come in, and we're saying culture is wrong, and everything needs to coexist, and we know that it fundamentally cannot.
	And not just people who don't know what it is.
	People who are funded by zillions of dollars from the biggest institutions saying that we hate this culture and you should hate it too.
	Here's a question for Matt.
	From a subscriber also named Matt.
	So you have to answer it.
	How did it feel to have the Embassy of Ireland respond to your sarcastic tweet about internalized Irish phobia?
	Can you break down what started this on Twitter?
	Yeah.
	That was my greatest career moment.
	It says a lot about my career, I suppose.
	The actual Irish embassy responded to a trolling tweet from me where I was saying that if you're not a person of Irish descent, PID, PID, which is what I am...
	If you add us with the marginalized groups, we are PID, BIPOC, LGBTQIA. All that together.
	I was suspected.
	Plus, sorry.
	But anyway, if you're not a person of Irish descent, then to participate in St.
	Patrick's Day is cultural appropriation.
	You know, my culture is not a breakfast cereal.
	It's not like And so I made that point, and the Irish Embassy could not pass up the opportunity to virtue signal, so they responded saying, well, it's not true.
	Anyone is welcome.
	It's appreciation, not appropriation.
	Cultural appreciation is not cultural appropriation.
	Which the thing is, I actually agree with them that cultural appropriation is a nonsense concept.
	I'm sure we all know that.
	But the point is that if they had said that, appreciation is not appropriation, about, say, a white person wearing dreadlocks, they'd be condemned as racist, but they could say it in this case.
	So tragic.
	They only illustrate the point I was making.
	Your own people.
	Yeah, my own people.
	Internalized Irish phobia is what they were saying.
	Because I totally see this point on appreciation and appropriation.
	But if you're not allowed to appropriate any other culture, let's say you're a white guy and you're not allowed to appropriate any other culture, but also you have to abolish your own culture, what culture are you permitted to have?
	One other thing about this appropriation thing, because of course one of the ironies with St.
	Patrick's Day is that it's not even, you know, St.
	Patrick wasn't even Irish.
	He was kidnapped by Irish pirates, which is great.
	I mean, he was appropriated himself.
	But so many of the things that we say are appropriate don't even originate with the supposed culture that's been stolen from it.
	Breeds.
	Yeah, dreadlocks did not originate with black people.
	Kendall Jenner was accused of appropriating tequila.
	Well, tequila was not invented by Native Mexicans.
	It was invented by a Spanish aristocrat.
	So that's one of the ironies.
	So often the culture that supposedly owns this thing...
	Like the Vikings, they have no answer for that.
	You're not allowed to wear your hair in braids or you're culturally appropriating from Africans.
	I guarantee you, the Vikings had no access to the continent of Africa.
	They weren't just like, oh, look at this braid down here.
	Let's bring that back up.
	I mean, it's like, it's incredible, but nobody, they don't know history.
	They don't know anything.
	They just know, we decided this is ours, and now you're not allowed to wear your hair in braids.
	And it's just like, are you kidding me?
	It was fantastic, though.
	I mean, when the embassy responded to you that way, it was legitimately hilarious.
	You do have these Twitter moments where, like, you're just like, why is Matt, why is he trending?
	And then, like, you look and you're like...
	It's never for anything significant.
	It's always, like, the dumbest issue.
	Emojis, dog, St.
	Patrick's Day.
	It should have never been an issue, and now it isn't.
	That really sums up Twitter.
	Here's a question for Andrew Klavan from someone named Lauren, who is a subscriber at DailyWire.com.
	You should be, too.
	Head over there, DailyWire.com slash subscribe.
	I'd love an honest opinion from Klavan on Jen Psaki.
	How do you say her name?
	Psaki.
	I'd love an honest answer.
	What do you think about her?
	How is she doing and how does she compare to previous press secretaries?
	Well, it is the worst job on earth because you probably take it thinking you're going to communicate the wonderful vision of the president you believe in and you wind up lying like a dog.
	And that is what she's doing.
	And it's sad to watch her.
	Like a dog.
	What?
	Like a dog.
	A dog.
	Like a dog.
	No, I'm going to circle back on this.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I just think that it's sad to watch somebody devolve into just a constant wire.
	The smallness...
	You know, I saw this during the Trump administration with Melania.
	Like, a lovely woman who did a good job as First Lady couldn't get on a magazine cover.
	An actual model couldn't get on a magazine cover.
	It was just so small and petty.
	Yeah.
	And I find that now with the Biden administration refusing to give any credit to Trump and his Operation Warp Speed, which really did help these vaccines get out there.
	And basically this pretense that the border, today or yesterday, she actually said, oh, you know, the border thing, we were stuck with Trump's border policies.
	I think Trump's border policies were like keeping people out and stopping them on the other side of the border so they didn't come over.
	You let them all come in and now we've got this crisis.
	So she's in this impossible position.
	This presidency is a crap fest.
	This presidency is going really badly.
	And her job is to defend it.
	And in order to defend it, she has to lie and lie and lie.
	And I think it's degrading to her, but that's what she's doing.
	Is she doing it well?
	No.
	It's openly, except she doesn't have the press, you know, climbing down her throat.
	And I will say in her defense, and I'm only saying anything in defense because we're both from Stanford, Connecticut.
	But I will say in her defense, it also is hard because, like, because I, you know, was very chummy with the past administration.
	Like, you know, the amount of time that Sarah Sanders and Kayleigh McEnany spent with the president every day.
	Right.
	They're having conversations, strategizing, doing these things.
	She doesn't do that with Joe Biden, right?
	She's flying in the dark.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, she's flying in the dark.
	Half the time, she's learning things from them.
	Because he's obviously not, doesn't have his mental faculties about him.
	So he's not sitting down with her, you know, love him or hate him.
	Trump's got his mental faculties about him, right?
	He's fighting.
	He's a fighter.
	He's a bull.
	Whatever it is, he's going to tell you what he thinks and what he wants you to go out there and say.
	Biden is just, you know, a puppet.
	So it makes her job even harder.
	And at the end of the day, you're correct.
	It is her.
	It's her job.
	I don't know why I keep saying at the end of the day it can also be at the beginning of the day.
	You're the face of dishonesty, but the dishonesty is really deep in the administration.
	It's a rotten job.
	Yeah, it's a rotten job.
	There's far too much empathy happening right now, first of all.
	It sucks!
	You're bringing empathy to this show.
	What is she going to say?
	You know, I haven't spoken to my boss in 63 days.
	You're right that the empathy is a little bit misplaced because, again, when you just crap all over the last administration and you act like it was the peak of dishonesty and then you're going out there and you're lying every single day.
	63 days without a press conference.
	Could you imagine if Trump did not speak to the press for 60 days?
	What they would have said?
	What would the headlines have been?
	My favorite is when they say, can we have the statistics?
	And she'll be like, well, the Department of Homeland Security has those.
	I'm like, right, you're the executive branch.
	Do you have the statistics?
	She's like, well, you can go ask the DHS. They're like, well, can we ask the DHS? She's like, no.
	Ben, this question is for you from James.
	With this most recent spending bill and the grand possibility of higher interest rates, do you think that it will cause a depression?
	And if so, how bad will it be?
	So I don't think it's going to cause a depression in the immediate term.
	I think that what Biden has the benefit of, economically speaking, is a natural recovery that was certainly going to happen.
	This is the most artificial depression in the history of the United States.
	It was the COVID lockdowns that caused the depression.
	And when COVID was relieved, the depression was going to end and was going to come back in a massive, massive way.
	So he has the benefit of being able to lower the GDP growth rate from 8% to 7% with crappy taxes and bad spending policy.
	And nobody notices because it's still 7%, which is this extraordinary growth rate.
	What you are going to see is an inflation of the currency because it has to happen.
	The amount of debt that we are now servicing It's extraordinary.
	We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars every year just to service the current debt that we have.
	Forget about the debt that we just took on.
	And that money can only come from three places.
	It can come from inflating the currency, i.e.
	printing more dollars, to raising more money with bonds, and three, higher taxation.
	And if you do either of the first two too much, then one of them kicks in, right?
	If you end up selling too many bonds, then inflation ends up kicking in.
	If inflation kicks in, then it kills the bond market.
	You're going to have to raise the interest rates, which means that all of the loans become more expensive, which sinks the economy.
	Well, they actually did something that people aren't talking about this last week, which is that Fannie and Freddie decided that they were going to cut dramatically how many second mortgages they would buy.
	Fannie and Freddie buy up like almost 70% of all the mortgages in the country.
	So it doesn't matter.
	You may have gotten your mortgage through our buddy who I got my mortgage recently from an old high school pal of Michael Knowles'.
	It doesn't matter if you get it through one of the major banks, Wells Fargo City.
	It doesn't matter if you get it from a local mortgage bank.
	Probably, most likely scenario, Fannie or Freddie are going to buy those up in the secondary market and then service them over time.
	And what that does, because the government essentially is buying almost all of the mortgages, it really helps drive those interest rates down because the secondary market is so robust.
	But what the left hates right now, the AOC left in particular, they hate landlords.
	They hate owners who they see as exploiting renters, right?
	This very class thing.
	And so it's a very subtle thing, but by Fannie and Freddie saying they're not going to purchase nearly as many, dramatically fewer second, third, fourth mortgages, it instantly drove up the interest rate for second homes by two and a quarter, two and a half percent.
	Like all left-wing plans, of course, this means renters will have to pay more because it's much more expensive for people to buy homes.
	But this is the thing about the left.
	Every trick that they use to interfere with the economy actually has a compounding effect on that.
	The other thing about the left is the left believes that gravity doesn't always apply.
	That's right.
	You can violate every rule.
	And if you violate every rule, then sooner or later you'll violate a rule and there'll be no consequences to having violated the rule.
	And so they just keep violating rules.
	Whether you're talking about the rules of marriage, whether you're talking about the rules of gender.
	Biology.
	If you're talking about the rules of economics, the same thing applies, right?
	They believe deeply in modern monetary theory, which is the idea that we can just continue to blow out the spending.
	And because other economies are not as robust as the American economy, people will continue to buy our bonds endlessly.
	Well, that's only true so long as the American economy is growing robustly.
	The big problem here for Republicans on the economy is because the natural recovery is going to be so unbelievably strong over the course of this year and next year, by the time things start to cool off, it's already going to be 2024, basically.
	And there is a delayed effect to a lot of the policies that are getting kicked in right now.
	So you're going to see the economy start to slow.
	Pretty much everybody agrees with this, like 2024.
	By 2025, you could start to see the economy really start to enter into some dark territory.
	And we'll have no ability to take up more debt to actually prop up the stimulus.
	I would say that it's going to take five to six years to feel the impact of what we're seeing right now.
	And like anything else in the economy, everything's good until it ain't.
	It's not like it just gradually slows down.
	At my age, these predictions are very encouraging because I've reached the point where people say long-term effects and I go...
	Yeah.
	The Keynesian in the long run, that has become for you very, very immediate.
	Gentlemen, Candace, Michael...
	We've been here damn near forever.
	It feels that way.
	Yeah, it's been a long, long, long, long show.
	I want to wrap up with a rapid-fire question session from our Daily Wire subscribers.
	You know the rules.
	I'm going to try to get through as many questions as we can in the remaining time that we have.
	If possible, be pithy with your answers.
	And if possible, let's just let the person being addressed answer, it's almost never possible.
	We're going to...
	We're going to try.
	Here we go from our DailyWire.com subscribers.
	Candice, from Nina.
	Have you lost family members or friends because of your beliefs?
	Yes.
	Cousin.
	Two cousins.
	That was pithy?
	That's good.
	That's pithy.
	That's really good.
	I actually...
	What a painful...
	I think we'd have to be so pithy on that.
	Yeah, well, it's one of those things.
	Gosh, now I see it's going to be longer.
	But it's one of those things where the weird thing is that I think Trump made everybody really crazy.
	And the idea, you just kind of went really far in.
	But the thing is, now they've kind of cracked and want to have a relationship.
	And I'm sort of like, I don't think it works like that.
	I don't think it works where, like, you get to just say horrible things about me, and then now I have to just pretend it didn't happen.
	And we've seen this a lot with even friends.
	Like, now that Trump's gone, they're kind of like, hey, like, you know, and you're just sort of like, okay, I don't think it works like that.
	Like, you can't just say, I'm going to pretend you don't exist, you're a horrible human being, and then because you got what you wanted.
	There's something very bratty about that.
	Like, I was always here, I've been solid, and I've been the same person.
	So, yeah, it sucks.
	It really sucks when it happened.
	Time has passed, and so I've sort of been like, okay, well, you know, it is what it is.
	I lost, obviously, friends, which was very easy, but the cousin stuff was really hard because I'm really, really close with my family.
	But you can't really go back is the weird thing.
	That's tough.
	Yeah.
	Knowles from Alexander.
	I remember you mentioned in a show once that there were good book burnings in history.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah.
	I admit I'm not well-versed in history, but I'd like to know about those events.
	Well, I'll give you an example.
	I mean, obviously, all the good ones were when the Catholics burned all those medical books, so that's like the history...
	I'll give you an example right now, because the issue that I see is...
	Book burnings are just the most ridiculous example of this, but there is always some sort of censorship.
	And we don't like censorship because in the American context, that means a very particular thing that we don't like.
	But there are always broad swaths of speech that are illegal, and they always have been in America.
	Sedition, fraud, threats...
	Obscenity for a long time, but now it's a little bit less so.
	But it was still being enforced during the George W. Bush era.
	You had pornographers going to prison for just gross stuff, right?
	And so this would seem to me...
	I'm not saying this is prescriptive.
	I'm saying it's descriptive.
	All regimes say that certain things are off-limits and certain things are on-limits.
	And in America, we've protected a huge swath of speech and, I think, all the important speech.
	And what's going on right now is...
	We're shifting those standards.
	So in the 50s, for instance, if you were a member of a communist group, you'd lose your career in Hollywood.
	You couldn't work for the federal government.
	Alger Hiss paid a big price, and no one believed that he was really guilty of it.
	The guy helped start the UN, right?
	He was really subverting U.S. policy.
	He got canceled.
	I guess that's a perfectly fine thing.
	Bill Buckley wrote a lot of books about how great that was.
	Wrote books and went on television, all this sort of thing.
	Now, you get canceled if you say that men are not women.
	Ryan Anderson gets his book burned digitally, great phrase that you used, on Amazon.
	That's really bad.
	You get canceled if you wave the American flag.
	You get your career promoted if you wave the communist flag, but you get your career canceled if you wave the American flag.
	And so, I actually, I'm being somewhat provocative when I say there are good book burnings.
	What I'm really saying...
	I feel provoked.
	Yeah, Jeremy's very provoked.
	But what I really mean by that is, The reason that we keep losing on this issue, on political correctness, wokeism, cancel culture, is because I think we're not acknowledging the reality of the situation.
	What the left knows is some things were always off limits, some things were always accepted.
	And they are shifting what is off limits and what is accepted.
	And because we're not going to engage in the reality of that, the history from 1776 all the way to the present and even further back than that, I think that's why every time we try to fight this thing...
	Time to lose more ground.
	Okay.
	From William.
	Pithy, Michael.
	Pithy.
	From William.
	Where does your hate for dogs derive from?
	Did you have a traumatic childhood experience or something?
	No, I find them to be totally useless.
	Just these smelly, hairy beasts that don't belong in the home.
	Now, dogs have, dogs existed, you know, for at least go back there.
	What's the common ancestor for dogs?
	Wolves.
	And existed in the wild for millions of years.
	And they did just fine without being inside a home with a wall and four walls and a roof.
	I just don't believe that animals...
	We have evolved as human beings.
	We have earned the home.
	I don't think that dogs have...
	Dogs have not earned that.
	We have earned the home.
	We've earned it.
	Now, can I just say, what really annoys me, what really pisses me off is when people say things like, because it's anti-human, when people say things like, oh, we don't deserve dogs.
	They see a video of a dog bringing a slipper to his owner, and they say, we don't deserve dogs.
	No, they don't deserve us.
	We do everything for them.
	They don't do a damn thing for us.
	We feed them.
	We pick up their crap.
	We give them a house.
	We do everything.
	And then you sit there and say, we don't deserve them?
	It's exactly the opposite.
	What have they done to deserve this?
	We don't bring pigs into the home.
	We don't bring squirrels into the home.
	Even a dog can eat the scraps from his master's table.
	Yes, exactly.
	And we give them those scraps.
	They're not bringing home food for us.
	So far we're in favor of book burning and hate dogs.
	By the way, Jeremy quoted the Bible.
	Jeremy quoted the Bible.
	There's a book burning in the Bible.
	In the book of Acts.
	The Christians burn their sorcery books.
	That's a great book burning.
	Burning your own book is not a book burning.
	Ben!
	I love your impersonations.
	Which do you think are your best and which do you think are your worst?
	My personal favorite is Beto.
	Let's hear it.
	I really love Beto.
	Beto doesn't sound anything like Beto.
	Beto's not really an impersonation so much as sort of a generalized mockery.
	It's more like bed ale roller, eating dirt in the Arizona desert.
	Rawr.
	Storm rip kickflip, Texas.
	That's, that's, that's, that's debato.
	My Bernie is pretty good.
	My Obama is very good, actually.
	I always think my Obama is underrated.
	My Kerry is good.
	My Trump is not good.
	I was never able to get Trump.
	You have to be kind of from New York, I think, to get Trump.
	All the best Trumps.
	But the OG BS impersonation It's Chris Matthews.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Chris Matthews.
	I was always safe.
	You up in the morning, coming on to the show.
	Come on, roll in here.
	Looking all rumped.
	Then you know what everyone's talking about.
	Just turn around, face the camera, start jabbering.
	All right, roll out of my seat.
	Let's go!
	Chris Matthews.
	Candace from Sam.
	Congratulations on becoming a mother.
	How has becoming a mother changed or impacted your political views?
	We'd love to get everyone's take on this as well, but you ain't gonna, because we're going too fast for that.
	We're just going to get it from Candace.
	Just feels like the political discussions we're having are much more severe because they're going to have implications in the society that my kids are going to come up in.
	So we didn't have this when I was growing up.
	It was like, hey, you're a girl and you're a boy.
	Cool.
	I'm going to go in the girls' bathroom.
	You're going to go in the boys' bathroom.
	So that stuff is really scary, I think, for me now because I'm just going, I don't want my kid to be around.
	I don't even want, like, can my kid just go to somebody's house and have a play date?
	Or is that mom going to be like, you can pick your genders here?
	So I think that that I feel like the urgency of the political conversations that we're having today.
	So everything feels a bit heavier.
	Can I talk about being a mother as well?
	Yes, please.
	Self-identify as a woman?
	I could.
	Go ahead.
	Right now, for the sake of being.
	He does chest feet.
	Oh, that was it?
	Yeah.
	That was it.
	I'm good at pithy.
	You are.
	You do great.
	I was killing this.
	This last question is for everyone.
	What is something that actually deserves to be canceled?
	Drew?
	Well, actually, I'm actually now, I've changed my mind about this.
	I'm now in favor of leftists canceling other leftists for not being leftist enough.
	Because I think the more that happens, the more there'll be fewer leftists, and we can just continue to welcome people in, and it will basically be reduced to a few leftists and Americans.
	And that's a perfect situation.
	Backstage.
	Then I wouldn't have to be here.
	The soft pitch.
	Right there.
	I want to go home, man.
	In reality, the entire anti-racist movement needs to be canceled.
	It's awful for the country.
	It's evil.
	It's garbage.
	And people who pervert language, freedom, and decency that way should not be accepted into the home of anyone who considers themselves to be a decent human being.
	I have a long list, but the one that's bothering me the most this week is I want to cancel anyone who tries to cancel someone for something that they did as a teenager.
	It's the most disgusting.
	What you're supposed to do as a child is be an idiot.
	Learn lessons and grow up.
	And then people help grow you into an adult.
	I received an enormous piece of grace once from someone who I had I made a mistake with, and I apologized to them years later.
	They were an adult at the time.
	I was a teenager.
	When I apologized as a young adult, they said, a man should never apologize for the sins of a boy.
	And it was a great piece of wisdom and a great piece of grace.
	And we live in such a graceless culture.
	This is the reason you can't apologize, never show them your belly, never ever apologize, because the whole idea of an apology is premised on a culture of grace.
	We had this Christian culture, maybe not a Christian nation in a literal sense, but a nation of Christians.
	And in a nation of Christians, an apology is a great virtue.
	It's an acknowledgement that you've done something wrong.
	And we respond to that act of virtue with another act of virtue called grace.
	And in a post-Christian America, you only get the, you acknowledged that you were wrong.
	You acknowledge that you were wrong.
	So if I call you a racist, you apologize for being a racist.
	See, even you admit that you were a racist or whatever.
	But to do that, as happened at Teen Vogue...
	Teen Vogue to Alexa McCammon today.
	That's right, today.
	Did you follow the story?
	She actually...
	She resigned.
	She resigned.
	I know that was led by the right...
	There's something I like about that story, by the way.
	Because what they started doing on the right is saying, okay, you guys want to do cancer culture, we're going to lead it.
	And I think these tweets were dug up by conservatives saying, play by your own rules, and she had to resign.
	And that kind of goes back to your point about, like, until these people realize these rules are just not fair, because they've been doing it to conservatives, the left created these rules.
	I don't mind mutually assured destruction.
	Yeah.
	But I will say that I think the fact that there is such a rule that could apply to what people did in their youth is one of the most despicable aspects of our culture today.
	Oh, it's horrible.
	I absolutely agree.
	To your point, Jeremy, the late philosopher Roger Scruton said civilization thrives on forgiveness and on confession first and then forgiveness, right?
	You confess, you sacrifice your pride, you confess.
	You sacrifice your resentment.
	Both people have something that means a lot to them, and they give it up.
	You have society, and you can't do that anymore.
	So, kind of what we're all saying.
	Chesterton had a good line.
	He said, there is a thought that stops thought.
	And that thought ought to be stopped.
	And Ben, you had a great tweet.
	I hate to say you and Chesterton in the same breath, but you had a great tweet where you said there's a culture that cancels culture.
	And coincidentally, this is sort of the thesis of my book that's coming out.
	That needs to be canceled.
	And we cannot pretend that there's some reconciliation, some middle ground between the two.
	There isn't.
	You've just got to stop that.
	Candace?
	I would cancel easily the transgender agenda, a movement, everything about it right now.
	I think it's a cancer like we've never seen before in society.
	Matt, the thing that our Daily Wire subscribers want to see canceled the most are those tight jeans you're wearing.
	It's actually trending.
	Hashtag cancel Matt's jeans.
	Hashtag bring back loose jeans.
	This is the second time I've been accused, the interview I did with Candace, that I was accused of wearing skinny jeans.
	I go to the store, I say, where are your pants?
	And they point me to them, and I just pick up a pair of pants.
	You shop!
	You call yourself a man, you son of a bitch?
	My wife.
	My wife goes to the store.
	I assume that's the process.
	Oh, no, no.
	There's no tape there.
	There's no tape there.
	Can I... For what I'm canceling, though, which, by the way, you said giving people a pass when they're teenagers.
	I really think it should be like 25 and under.
	I actually think if you're...
	In your 20s or 30s, everything you said and did up to about 10 years and further, it's because you grow so much in that age frame.
	Anyway, as far as what I would cancel, everything that preys upon kids, especially you go into Barnes& Noble and you see all these kids' books indoctrinating.
	How many stores do you go in?
	Yeah.
	This is madness.
	This was one day.
	This was one day of shopping that I did.
	All of these things that prey on kids.
	Drag queen story hours.
	All of that.
	There's one thing we need to cancel.
	It's the way that kids are indoctrinated.
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