July 1, 2025 - MyronGainesX
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| Every single time, every single time, every single lie, every single hour, every single day, every single night. | |
| I know it's hard to believe it's no forest, not one tree, and it's every branch and leaf, they're born to deceive. | |
| But I'm telling you the truth: it's not just one or two, it's every single Jew, they all hate you. | |
| And it really breaks my heart. | |
| But their lives are off the charts and they only bring us harm. | |
| You gotta get smart. | |
| So if you want to be safe and don't want to get replaced, it's best you start being based or you'll get your... | |
| Every single time, every single cry, every single lie, early life. | |
| Every single hour, every single day, every single night, early life. | |
| I know it's hard to accept that all the ones you've met lie with every single breath. | |
| They want you dead. | |
| But you must not be weak. | |
| Just open your eyes and see. | |
| They always exploit the me. | |
| See their vampire tea. | |
| And it can make you cry. | |
| Learn your life is full of lies. | |
| And their face was a disguise. | |
| But you must hide. | |
| So if you want to live and protect all of your kin, you have to grow thick skin. | |
| Or we want... | |
| Every single time, every single cry, every single lie, early life. | |
| Every single hour, every single day, every single night, early life. | |
| And you must be able to live and protect all of your kin. | |
| And we are live. | |
| What's up, guys? | |
| Welcome to the stream. | |
| It is July 1st. | |
| We're in the house. | |
| What's up, man? | |
| I got some new merch. | |
| I hope you guys like the goddamn merch. | |
| Let's go, baby. | |
| So, guys, we're doing the merch drop. | |
| As you guys can see, the Nike hoodie, right? | |
| Looking nice and, you know, swaggerific, etc. | |
| So, welcome to the OSS Ninjas, AK. | |
| Welcome to the debrief. | |
| Okay. | |
| How y'all doing? | |
| Guys, the audio should be pretty damn good. | |
| Me and Bills were in here yesterday, you know, making this thing super good, adding filters, all this other stuff. | |
| So, you guys should hear impeccable audio right now, okay? | |
| And Bill said if the audio isn't impeccable, fuck y'all, because that's what he literally told me yesterday. | |
| So, the audio should be literally fire. | |
| I went ahead, I got like a complex setup, man. | |
| I got like, I literally split my mixer and my, basically I split my mic input from my audio. | |
| So, y'all should be able to hear the music, no problem. | |
| And then you guys should be able to hear the videos, no problem, and the mic is independent. | |
| So, we went ahead and eco queued the mic in particular. | |
| So, um, so yeah, so the audio, it should be super good. | |
| Never have to tune that shit again. | |
| The whole problem before, guys, because I was using a mixer, and when you use a mixer for any guys that want to be podcasters here, I'm using a Zoom PA, right? | |
| And basically, it was taking in the whole mixer. | |
| So, what I had to do is I had to split it where I'm only pulling the microphone audio out, and then I had to run the audio from the computer coming in through another interface, if that makes sense. | |
| So, to keep things simple for you guys, the audio engineers know what I'm talking about. | |
| But yeah, man, so we're good. | |
| We got some, obviously, as you guys know, we got the multiple angles, right? | |
| We got this one that we always use. | |
| We got this one over here. | |
| I need to adjust this one a little bit. | |
| I think it's a little blurry. | |
| But I got to get with TPC films and fix this. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think it's focused now. | |
| And then obviously we got the camera angle up there, which I'm going to fix that one too. | |
| But yeah, I'm going to get with TPC and continue to make this shit better. | |
| Also, guys, I'm probably going to get new cameras. | |
| This camera I'm recording on right here, this is Sony FX3. | |
| And you guys know I, you know, I share with y'all like my setup and shit like that. | |
| This one's like a Sony a7R, which, you know, I think I got to move this shit a little bit. | |
| Yeah, y'all see too much. | |
| Goddamn. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| So yeah, there you guys go. | |
| You guys could see all the crap I got going on over here, man. | |
| You know, bro. | |
| See, everybody wants to go ahead and do streams and shit like that, but it's like a one-man show. | |
| All right. | |
| Four different angles, all kinds of complex shit. | |
| Like, look, bro, look at this shit, man. | |
| It's like I'm in a fucking spaceship, man. | |
| Like, well, look at it. | |
| Look at this shit. | |
| I got this thing over here to help out with making sure I got the different angles. | |
| I got the kick over here and Rumble Studio and OBS and all this shit, man. | |
| So, hey, man. | |
| The reason why I show y'all that is to let you guys know that I take this shit very seriously. | |
| You guys invest in me, so I'm going to invest back. | |
| I'm going to make sure that the show gets better and better and better. | |
| We're improving it all the time. | |
| And that's what it's about, man. | |
| So, you know, and then there's like another three or four screens that y'all can't even see. | |
| So, you know, I truly do appreciate you guys joining the OSS, supporting. | |
| I want you guys to see that what y'all put in, you know, I'm putting in two and making sure that we make this shit better. | |
| So, definitely going to upgrade some of these cameras as well from like the Sony a7Rs to like FX3s. | |
| I'll slowly start getting them because the FX3s are expensive. | |
| Y'all know those things are not cheap. | |
| But yeah, so today, guys, we're going to be covering two different things. | |
| We're going to be covering two debates. | |
| Candace Owens against the 20 conservatives. | |
| And then I know my guy Nick Fuente is going to debate Dinesh Souza. | |
| I think it's 7 p.m. Central Time, which is going to be about an hour for us over here on the East Coast. | |
| So about 6. | |
| So it's going to be a good time. | |
| But yeah, the audio should be good. | |
| Discord is up. | |
| Discord is up. | |
| Okay, guys. | |
| So shout out to my guy, Brett and a bunch of guys in there. | |
| They're in the chat right now. | |
| Discord is up. | |
| Get in there. | |
| It's completely free to join. | |
| Go in there, hang out with the bros. | |
| Just so you guys know, obviously, Discord, there's going to be moderating in there and stuff because, you know, I know some of y'all niggas are crazy. | |
| Going to say some wild shit in there. | |
| You know, follow the rules. | |
| You know, Discord isn't like free speech, but we also got a telegram for the active members. | |
| If you guys become active members of Council Club, only $4 to join, by the way, for the next couple of days. | |
| And you get the merch discounts because the merch is coming out, by the way, right? | |
| This one of the hoodies right here that I'm wearing. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nice stuff, Nike. | |
| If you guys want that, you guys are going to get discounts, but it's only going to be for active Castle Club members. | |
| When I put out the promo, me and Brett are going to be militant about it. | |
| We're going to put out the promo code. | |
| Only, man, we're going to put it out only to like certain people, like certain people that are active members to make sure it doesn't get spread and shit like that. | |
| So yeah, man, it's going to be good. | |
| Yeah, it's discord.gg slash the OSS. | |
| Jake just pinned it in the chat. | |
| So go ahead and join up, guys. | |
| Discord is free. | |
| Joining OSS is only four bucks for the month and then $10 after that. | |
| And then if you want to get in for the year, it's $75 running the sale until July 4th. | |
| So get in while you guys can. | |
| It goes up to $10 from there and then it's going to stay there. | |
| So you guys don't got to worry about prices going up or whatever. | |
| Remember, the main reason, guys, and then I get a lot of questions about this. | |
| Yo, Myron, why are you doing the OSS? | |
| What is it? | |
| Whatever. | |
| So the main reason why, guys, I'm going to be very, very painfully blunt and honest with you guys about this because you guys know I'm very transparent. | |
| Obviously, running a show is a business. | |
| And for the better part of several years, this channel used to be a true crime channel, Fed 1811, et cetera. | |
| I used to do True Crime on here. | |
| Once a week, I'd get on, cover a case, get off, right? | |
| That's what I did. | |
| I only did True Crime on here, you know, based on my background. | |
| But I noticed that you guys like to see like the other sides of the things that I look at and what I do and everything like that. | |
| So I was like, you know what? | |
| I'll start covering some political commentary and some true crime as well, kind of combining it into a new show. | |
| And it's taking off. | |
| You guys really love it. | |
| The channel's been growing ridiculously. | |
| I think we're about across 100,000 subscribers in just seven months, guys. | |
| So down the market to you guys for that. | |
| Right? | |
| So, you know, we're going to cross 100,000 subscribers in seven months. | |
| So you guys clearly like the content. | |
| A lot of you guys have told me you stop watching the news. | |
| You basically just watch me now for your news, which is like, you know, I take that very seriously. | |
| So in order for me to justify, right, the amount of time that I'm putting in and the research and all the effort that goes in behind the show, as you guys can see, all the crazy shit around me here, right? | |
| Obviously, I need to be able to ensure that we're operating the black so that we can continue to go. | |
| And obviously run this channel ain't cheap. | |
| I just fucking, it's the first time that's spent like easily what? | |
| Like $16,000, $17,000,000 for just to run this channel alone. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| For my clippers and getting people paid and everything else like that. | |
| Because guys, I got like a team. | |
| We got like Brett has a team of clippers that works under him that put out the content. | |
| You guys like those clips that you guys see with like the B-roll and all that shit while I'm covering politics? | |
| That shit ain't cheap. | |
| It's really good editing, as you guys know. | |
| And, you know, Brett is on top of that. | |
| So he's managing a team of those guys. | |
| It ain't cheap. | |
| Then I got my other guy that like, you know, does my regular clips. | |
| That's just like shorts and you know, stuff for Instagram and shit like that, like reels. | |
| That's just, that's what Brett handles. | |
| So it ain't cheap, man. | |
| So doing that and expanding the channel, you have obviously have to invest. | |
| So, like for a while, since I was only doing it once a week, I was just putting my own money and I didn't give a shit. | |
| I was like, whatever, bro. | |
| Just put my own money. | |
| This channel is like red for years. | |
| I didn't give a fuck about making money on it. | |
| It was red. | |
| But my thing is, you guys really enjoy the crime breakdowns, whatever. | |
| So I'm like, all right, if I'm going to really take this seriously and put more time in, we got to be able to operate this thing like a business. | |
| So that's why we're putting the OSS to combat also. | |
| The other thing too that you have to deal with, and this is for anyone that wants to be a podcaster or be a creator in the future. | |
| If you cover, if you're a conservative, right? | |
| And you have any type of political views that are considered right-wing or alt-right or far-right, you're pretty much going to be on the chopping block for censorship to some degree. | |
| That's just kind of something I've learned over the past. | |
| Like, it is what it is. | |
| Like, unless you're like a Charlie Kirk and you got like the president back in you, bro, you're getting canceled somewhere, nigga. | |
| Like, you're going to get censored. | |
| You're going to get canceled somewhere. | |
| Like, very few conservatives that are actually based actually stay up on all platforms without getting censored. | |
| So the way you combat that is you got to have alternate platforms where you're always able to generate revenue regardless of them censoring you. | |
| As you guys know, I got banned on fucking Twitch. | |
| I got demonetized on X, got demonetized on YouTube, right? | |
| Been demonetized on YouTube for like two years now. | |
| Still going fucking strong. | |
| So, and a lot of that is because we have the OSS Army. | |
| The OSS Army allows it where we don't need fucking YouTube revenue, right? | |
| As long as like 50% of the audience is fuck with us on OSS, I'll take the 50% hit. | |
| Like, I'm losing like fucking 50, 200K a month on YouTube easy with the amount of views I'm getting. | |
| I've showed you guys my dashboard before, and we don't need to go through that shit anymore. | |
| But you guys get the point. | |
| So, so yeah, the point is, that's where I started the OSS. | |
| Make sure that we can continue to run this thing at a high level. | |
| I could travel and do stuff. | |
| I can, you know, research stuff, spend more time, make the content better, get out clips and shorts. | |
| Because you guys know we're doing, you know, five, six, seven, eight hour long streams. | |
| We're able to chop that shit up into really high-quality clips and put it back out. | |
| It ain't cheap. | |
| So that's kind of how we do it. | |
| So I'm going to ensure that we continue to. | |
| I see some of you guys saying, fuck JTube. | |
| I know, bro. | |
| I know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I know y'all. | |
| Yo, a lot of you guys like really fucking support me and fuck with me. | |
| And you guys see that they're doing this bullshit, especially when like they're demonetizing me for shit that other niggas be doing. | |
| It's kind of crazy. | |
| Like, whatever. | |
| But that's fine because whether we get remonetized or not, like, we built infrastructure where we're independent. | |
| We don't need those motherfuckers, right? | |
| Anything at this point, we want it to be where we're self-sufficient no matter what. | |
| We got 10,000 strong. | |
| YouTube wants to fuck with us or not. | |
| It doesn't matter, right? | |
| So it's about building that parallel infrastructure where they can't do nothing to you. | |
| And that's what I learned early on. | |
| Anyone, any of you guys want to become a podcaster, any of this other shit and you got conservative views, bro, always build an alternate platform, bro. | |
| That's the number one tip I could give to anybody that wants to get into this line, bro. | |
| Because the censorship is fucking outrageous, man. | |
| It really is outrageous. | |
| Like, you can't even say basic shit anymore. | |
| It's fucking wild. | |
| So anyway, some people in the chat are saying, what does OSS mean? | |
| Oh, sir. | |
| You'll find that out. | |
| That's good, though. | |
| That's a good sign. | |
| That means that we got a lot of new people in here. | |
| So that's a good sign. | |
| But anyway, I'm going to read some chats, guys, and then we're going to go ahead and get right into the Candace Owens debate from yesterday. | |
| I fucking love y'all, by the way, man. | |
| We're almost at 1700 strong. | |
| You know, the goal said 2,000, then work our way up to 10,000, baby. | |
| And then we can literally, we can go to YouTube headquarters at that point and say, fuck you guys. | |
| Okay. | |
| One chest says 372 members, OSS Discord so far in 24 hours. | |
| Let's fucking go with Hit 400 by the end of the day. | |
| And for sure, men on 500 by July 4th when the merch launches. | |
| Shout out to you, OneChess. | |
| For a lot of you guys that don't know, OneChest, one of the homies. | |
| He actually is a personal trainer as well. | |
| Did brand as a high-ticket trainer, doing wildly successful truck driver. | |
| Been a long time supporter of ours, bro. | |
| Thank you so much, dude, for supporting for as long as you have. | |
| I really, really appreciate that. | |
| You really fuck with us. | |
| And I'll try to make it out there to Chicago in August. | |
| Mr. B93 says, bro, maybe I'll bro, maybe, you know what? | |
| Maybe I go out there and set up a fucking table. | |
| Maybe I go out there and set up a fucking table, you know? | |
| Like band drill music, change my mind. | |
| Who fucking knows? | |
| Maybe I'll do that shit. | |
| Yo, Chad, what do you think about that? | |
| Chat, what do you think about that? | |
| I set up a table, band drill music, change my mind. | |
| And do that shit in Chicago. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Anyway, Mr. B says, bro, this is the best audio we've had so far. | |
| It's so good that we can hear your breath super clean. | |
| Pause. | |
| I tested on JTube, Locals Rumble, and even with Speaker on Blue Telephone's fucking good. | |
| I'm glad our sheckles are well managed. | |
| Let's surf that Mountain J and skip them haters. | |
| Hey, man, appreciate it. | |
| Mr. B93, I think you're an audio engineer, aren't you? | |
| Is it you or Bruce Broski? | |
| Not Broski, Broski's not an engineer. | |
| You is it you? | |
| Might be you. | |
| But yeah, that's a funny ass Mountain Dew. | |
| Not gonna lie, he was absolutely cooking extremely sharp yesterday and after hours. | |
| WWW. | |
| Hey, bro, I try, bro, Jacob. | |
| I'm a little tired today, bro. | |
| I barely saw like only three or four hours. | |
| So, you know, we're still gonna cook today, though. | |
| Gabbedy says, bro, did you see that Trump called Candice personally to ask her to stop talking about Macron's wife husband? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| I didn't see that. | |
| Yo, W. Candice. | |
| Wow. | |
| That's when you know shit is real. | |
| Bro, could you imagine? | |
| Candace, you gotta stop. | |
| You gotta stop. | |
| It's gonna be very bad. | |
| Very bad. | |
| Wine is gonna be expensive. | |
| They're putting tariffs. | |
| Just say she's a woman. | |
| Do it for me. | |
| Mega. | |
| Bro, could you imagine that phone call? | |
| Nigga, what the fuck, man? | |
| How the fuck do y'all know that? | |
| Did she say that? | |
| No way. | |
| All right. | |
| But anyway. | |
| Have bills put on every gift sub on all apps. | |
| Oh, with Mordecai, bro. | |
| We don't know how to do it, man. | |
| We can only do it on kick. | |
| We're trying to find a way to do the Mordecai coming up, you know, with the. | |
| We're trying to find a way to do it on fucking Rumble. | |
| Well, Rumble subs. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Guapogi says, Thank you, Myron, for giving everyone in the chat the N-word pass. | |
| We appreciate you, nigga. | |
| Hey, bro. | |
| You know it, baby. | |
| Freeze up voice actor Dose Soundbites for $50. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| There you go. | |
| Shout out to Mordecai in the chat. | |
| She belonged to the streets. | |
| Thank you for the gifted sub, bro. | |
| Thank you for the gifted sub, sir. | |
| I'm going to fucking. | |
| I got to find, I got to put this somewhere else, bro. | |
| Hold on, niggas. | |
| I'm going to put this somewhere else so it doesn't block Mordecai, man. | |
| Also, just so you guys know, if you guys want to go ahead and, you know, get involved in the show, MyronGainsX.com is the website to Super Chat Two Ninjas. | |
| I'll put this up top now. | |
| I'll put it right here. | |
| There we go. | |
| I feel like I got a lot of shit on the screen, but nah. | |
| Anyway, okay. | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| Radek, if you could find out a way that we could get Mordecai on locals and on Rumble, let me know, bro. | |
| But the API is different. | |
| Usmaki says, hey, Marin, just want to tell you, say that it's an absolute honor to finally become an OSS member. | |
| Gone are my dark days of Brokey Hood trapped among the greasy obese freeloader masses on YouTube, desperately clawing for crumbs. | |
| I've now ascended Liberator from their peasant life, and it feels magnificent to be king. | |
| May God may the help one day get help. | |
| Until then, long live the pay tier. | |
| Hey, man, appreciate you, nigga. | |
| Bro, just so you guys know, the OSS chat is crazy, bro. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| They be putting all kinds of funny shit. | |
| And we got Castle Club niggas in here too. | |
| Shout out to you Castle Club guys. | |
| I see you 33 you guys in there as well. | |
| Shout out to Castle Club guys. | |
| But guys, Castle Club guys. | |
| I've been told y'all, though, I'm going to start migrating. | |
| This is probably going to be the last week that I stream the debrief on Castle Club, right? | |
| I want to keep Fresh African OSS separate, you know, because I mean. | |
| Right? | |
| You guys already know why. | |
| Okay. | |
| Thank you, Usmaki. | |
| Mr. B says, I'm an AI engineer. | |
| I'm working on something with Jacob to help in the background coming soon. | |
| We got you, brother. | |
| Thank you, Mr. B. Okay, you're an AI engineer. | |
| All right, sweet. | |
| Sweet. | |
| Bro, if you could make some funny gifts and shit like that, that'd be great. | |
| Not gonna lie, the JD nigga got cooked yesterday. | |
| Bro, that JD nigga did get cooked. | |
| Punch. | |
| Yeah, I was in rare form. | |
| That shit pissed me off, bro. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| I'm over here giving commentary. | |
| Nigga says, hey, bro, stop pausing the video. | |
| Let Candice talk. | |
| Nigga, what? | |
| Bro, you're here watching me. | |
| I'm giving commentary. | |
| Like, you can go watch it on Jubilee if you want. | |
| You don't want interruptions. | |
| What the fuck is wrong with this guy? | |
| So, anyway, OneChess says, we'll have security for you, big dudes at Casil Carrier. | |
| Can work on permits soon. | |
| Just let me know when you want to pull the trigger on that for Chicago Bandrill music. | |
| All right, let's fucking do it, OneChess. | |
| Let's do it, bro. | |
| Let's do it. | |
| Let me know the days that y'all wanted to want to meet up there, and then we'll fucking work around this, bro. | |
| We'll make it lit. | |
| But yeah, we'll need security for sure. | |
| I can't bring my gun to Illinois. | |
| So breaking the Senate vote, voted 50-50 on President Trump's mega bill with Vice President J.D. casting a tie-breaking vote to pass the tax immigration bill. | |
| Yes, the big beautiful bill did get passed. | |
| Yeah, we'll talk about that today, too. | |
| We'll talk about that. | |
| Gabbedi says, it's on our latest podcast. | |
| I'll put the link in the chat. | |
| Start up 1230 called Breaking News. | |
| That's wild. | |
| What happens in OSS? | |
| Yeah, shout out. | |
| Dirty Harry. | |
| Bro, I'm telling you, that's where the real niggas are at on the OSS. | |
| And as you guys can see, I read all the chats on OSS. | |
| I only read $5 minimums on Rumble or MyronGainsX.com. | |
| But if you're on OSS, I read them all. | |
| Owen says here, hope you're having a great day, Myron. | |
| I wanted to know your view on investing in ETFs. | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, slash. | |
| Yes, dude, definitely get an ETFs. | |
| Get a basic one, bro, that tracks the SP 500, and you're good. | |
| You know, don't complicate it. | |
| When it comes to index funds and shit like that, guys, like, just invest in shit that either tracks the total stock market or the S ⁇ P 500, put money in it and never look at that shit again, bro. | |
| I did a whole episode on this. | |
| I had to invest in index funds on Fresh and Fitz. | |
| Type in index funds, Fresh and Fit, and I go over the ones that I use. | |
| Like, I think I got like VT Sachs, which covers the total stock market, and then like Vu, which is like the SP 500. | |
| Bro, simple shit, man. | |
| Don't overcomplicate. | |
| A lot of people like the complication, bro. | |
| Because the goal is you put the money in, you never look at it again. | |
| When it comes to like index funds and shit, that's like old nigga money. | |
| You put that money in there and just like let the compound interest work out. | |
| You know, if these damn boys can do it, you could do it too, right? | |
| So, okay, let's see here. | |
| Okay, let's go ahead and go to I'll go on. | |
| All right, let's go ahead and go on YouTube real quick. | |
| Before we get into the debate. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Partial verdict reached? | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Hold on, chat. | |
| With a verdict on that relatively quickly, I also feel that they found him not guilty with respect to sex trafficking of Jane, partially because they didn't have any questions, any readback. | |
| As you guys know for the Diddy case, bro, literally, they're deliberating now, chat. | |
| With respect to Jane, that is suspect, to say the least. | |
| So let me ask you this. | |
| Again, Safa, do you think Diddy will serve any time in jail if he's convicted of sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution? | |
| What could he be looking at? | |
| I think he's definitely going to serve some time in jail. | |
| And he's already in custody right now. | |
| So all of the time that he has spent in custody is counting towards any sentence that he ultimately might be sentenced to by this particular judge. | |
| He's looking at if he's only convicted of those counts and not of the RICO of up to 15 years. | |
| And so in terms of sentencing, there are going to be a number of factors that go into what his exact sentence will be. | |
| The judge can take a number of things into consideration, including, you know, some of the other allegations that were heard. | |
| Okay, video's low. | |
| All right, I got y'all right now. | |
| I got y'all right now. | |
| Hold on. | |
| All right, let me fix that right now, Chad. | |
| Information that he gained from sitting through this trial. | |
| Not only that, but there's going to be a pre-sentence. | |
| All right, chat. | |
| How's that? | |
| Is that better right there? | |
| That should be a lot better. | |
| I think I'm still going to be louder than the thing, but I'm playing it now. | |
| Let me know if this is good. | |
| ... | |
| that digs into his life and things of that nature that will help guide the judge into what his sentence is going to be. | |
| You're also gonna have Mr. Combs'attorneys putting together a mitigation package which essentially would humanize Mr. Combs to the judge to say, give him the most lenient sentence possible, judge, Audio is still low, chat. | |
| I turn it up quite a bit. | |
| Here, let me turn. | |
| You know what? | |
| Fuck it. | |
| I'll turn it up even more. | |
| This should be better. | |
| The government, of course, we can expect is going to come in and ask for the maximum, especially if they lose on that RICO charge. | |
| By the way, I said that we have incredible viewers. | |
| Listen to this. | |
| This is from Miss on Average. | |
| Watched every single day of the 33 days from Lagos, Nigeria. | |
| Thanks, Jesse, and the team. | |
| Unbelievable, the people across the board. | |
| I want to get Sierra Gillespie in, so I know we're working on getting her up as soon as we can. | |
| I'll jump in. | |
| And also, we might be trying to get Elizabeth Milner up as well, trying to get everybody up to talk about this. | |
| But Bradford, I'll start with you. | |
| This is a question from Offre Coco Lux. | |
| Just so we are clear, he can still. | |
| All right, I'm fine-tuning it right now for you guys, making it louder. | |
| That should bring us to where we need to be. | |
| Go to jail, even if they are hung on one count. | |
| I mean, if they're guilty on another count, yes. | |
| I mean, if it's all not guilty and hung, no, he's not going to jail. | |
| And here's what's interesting about if they're hung on the Rico charge. | |
| What's so very interesting is if you're going to find him guilty of a sex trafficking with concerning Cassie, those predicate crimes, aren't they much easier to prove at that point? | |
| I mean, if you're saying, hey, yeah, he's guilty on sex trafficking with Cassie, to your point, which you were discussing that you think that he might be guilty on the sex trafficking with Cassie. | |
| I think it would be a lot easier to get that Rico charge and get a guilty on the Rico charge. | |
| Shout out to Unforgiven again with the gift of sub. | |
| Thank you so much, Unforgiven. | |
| You're really a G supporting on fucking on kick, dude. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| That's why I'm leaning. | |
| We're almost at 3,000, by the way, for our goal, guys, on kick. | |
| All right, guys, how's the audio now? | |
| I'm looking at all the things. | |
| If the audio is good now, I turned up, I know my audio is good, but I turned up the USB audio for the video. | |
| So that should be significantly better. | |
| You know, I'll even turn it up a tad more for you, ninjas. | |
| I literally turned it up a tad more. | |
| I'm going to play it now. | |
| If it's good, I'm going to give it like 10 seconds. | |
| Give me O slashes, and we'll never have to fine-tune this shit ever again. | |
| Towards the not guilty. | |
| That's my reasoning behind it. | |
| Because if you're saying, yeah, he sex trafficked her, he did all these things, he distributed pills because, you know, she said that he handed me pills and he handed me drugs. | |
| It's easier to get to that guilty on Rico than a split on the Rico and a guilty on the trafficking, unless they're just splitting the baby. | |
| It's just, it is a very, to me, this is a very unique way that the jury has been looking at the case. | |
| And I, like I said before, I love, love, loved Mark's closing where he was saying, you know, no one came forward. | |
| This is the government looking for the crime and finding the guy. | |
| This isn't all of a sudden a victim came forward and then they're like, let's investigate this. | |
| That's not how this went. | |
| And it could be anyone. | |
| It could be you. | |
| I love this closing. | |
| I thought he did an excellent job. | |
| No matter what the outcome is here, I think the defense did a very, very nice job with what they had and what they had to work with. | |
| And I'll be interested to see how hey, yo, TPC with the 10 gifted, bro. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Shit, I got to call you today, bro. | |
| I got to call you today. | |
| I'm going to call you on Zoom after the stream, TPC, so that we can finish the video. | |
| For those that are wondering, real quick, TPC OSS member, one of my guys, he's the one that's responsible for this video stuff that you guys see. | |
| So if you're in the Orlando area, you need a videographer. | |
| That's your fucking guy, bro. | |
| That's your guy. | |
| So hit him up. | |
| TPC Films. | |
| He's in the OSS community. | |
| You need a videographer in Central Florida area. | |
| He's there. | |
| He's fantastic. | |
| He helped me personally with this setup. | |
| So shout out to him. | |
| Okay, we got the Candace link here. | |
| I got the video right here as well for you guys. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| So the audio is good now, chat. | |
| The audio should be good. | |
| Okay, this is a video that you guys were asking about Kenny. | |
| Tell me something that is even stranger. | |
| They say, look, I'm, I, again, and the messenger here. | |
| What I was told from somebody that's pretty high up at the White House is that Emmanuel Macron is holding up negotiations to end the Russian and Ukrainian war unless you stop speaking about his wife. | |
| What the fuck, bro? | |
| What? | |
| What are you saying? | |
| What are we even speaking about? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. | |
| Hey, shout out to you, DPG with the 10 gifted, bro. | |
| Thank you so much, man. | |
| Shout out to DPG. | |
| I'm just like, you know, looking into a story at my house. | |
| I've got a very small team here. | |
| And you're telling me that somehow negotiations are being held up. | |
| Yo, shout out to you, DPG, with the 45 gifted. | |
| For those that are wondering, DPG is helping me out with getting you guys some dog tags. | |
| Okay, we got some in the makes right now for you guys. | |
| I know you guys said you guys wanted some dog text. | |
| So OSS, we're going to have some dog text for you, ninjas very soon. | |
| The design is nice. | |
| You guys are going to like it. | |
| So that's coming very, very soon, ninjas. | |
| Very, very soon. | |
| But, bro, we got some big things planned, man. | |
| We got some big things planned with Fresh and Fit, with OSS, with everything, man. | |
| So. | |
| Oh, but it needs to be communicated to me. | |
| They got to stop talking about Brigitte. | |
| What are we saying? | |
| And then I'm asking myself in my mind, because I hang up this phone, I am in true shock. | |
| Did Emmanuel Macron pretend to fly into DC under the guise of negotiations, the Russia and Ukraine war, and then instruct someone on his entourage to have an off-the-books discussion, a little meeting on the side, maybe somebody, again, like a Susie Wiles, where he made his truer demands. | |
| Like, hey, this is for the pictures. | |
| Me and Trump are talking about you. | |
| We're going to get it done. | |
| And then what really. | |
| Unforgivable with the five gifted. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| Quelcomb! | |
| Punch! | |
| He goes on behind. | |
| Oh, I know y'all niggas heard that one. | |
| I know you guys heard that one, that Falcon Punch, baby. | |
| Scenes is like, we're not doing that. | |
| That loud enough for you, motherfuckers. | |
| Quelcomb! | |
| Punch! | |
| Anything until that little podcast, her Candace, agrees to shut her mouth. | |
| What? | |
| This is crazy. | |
| This is absolutely insane. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, guys, I purposely have my volume louder than the video so that you guys can hear me over the video if I talk. | |
| That's why. | |
| So I say, we ended the conversation. | |
| I say, I'm going to sleep on this. | |
| It's a lot to process. | |
| I remember I get into bed and I just turn to my husband and I say, no one will ever believe us. | |
| Just something that just arrived at me. | |
| Bro, that is crazy that bro wants the war to continue because Candace is making fun of his wife. | |
| That's some fucking wild shit, man. | |
| DPG with another 40. | |
| Bro, thank you so much, bro. | |
| DPG, my ninja, man. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| Like, I don't really know what to say, man. | |
| Thank you so much for the support, bro. | |
| I really appreciate that, man. | |
| 45 gifted subs once again, bro. | |
| By DPG, man. | |
| This nigga cooking, man. | |
| I don't, bro. | |
| Bro, got unlimited money, man. | |
| I respect it, man. | |
| I really do, bro. | |
| Thank you so much, man. | |
| Like, support like that is how I'm able to do this show. | |
| So you guys should all be thanking DPG right now. | |
| You guys should all be thanking DPG. | |
| And I got the pleasure to meet him a couple weeks back. | |
| He actually came out to one of our live events when we were doing the table. | |
| Change my mind. | |
| He was out there. | |
| I think, DPG, when you're out there when them boys came and attacked, were you there that week or the week after? | |
| I think you came the week after. | |
| But got to meet him. | |
| Awesome guy. | |
| Shout out to you, bro. | |
| Appreciate you greatly, man. | |
| I think you're going to be down here in Miami with us soon, too. | |
| So yeah, dog tie's coming soon, man. | |
| How this all shake. | |
| All right, let's see a little bit of this. | |
| Did he stuff? | |
| We're going to go to the canon stuff because obviously the guys are getting a partial verdict. | |
| Is acquitted or there is a hung jury as to racketeering conspiracy. | |
| Will the prosecution be kicking themselves for not bringing her on? | |
| They might be kicking themselves for it. | |
| You know, I can't say exactly why they didn't call her as a witness on the stand to testify. | |
| Certainly, if I was on the prosecution team, I would want to call her as a witness to testify, particularly because I think she lacks in that criminal enterprise component that people would ideally be looking for with respect to the RICO charge. | |
| You know, she could have been just a really bad witness for the prosecution, or they may have thought that she would have been a really bad witness for them, considering her alleged participation in these acts, you know, whether or not she was going to be truthful, whether or not she was going to come off as a likable and honest witness to the potential jurors. | |
| So I don't know why they didn't call her. | |
| It could just be something strategic. | |
| You know, she could have been a part of the initial investigation, a part of, you know, what ultimately ended up in the search warrant application to go into Mr. Combs' home by the Department of Homeland Security. | |
| We don't know. | |
| And I don't know that she's testified in grand jury. | |
| I didn't have any information that led me to believe, and I could be wrong. | |
| But I don't know why they didn't call her. | |
| I would have certainly called her, but she could just be, you know, a bad witness that they were worried about the jury considering her when she was to go testify if she were to have testified in the trial. | |
| By the way, we put them to inside baseball. | |
| Yes. | |
| Play inside baseball, raised their hand. | |
| I know I do, especially for Bradford Cohen, Professor Cohen. | |
| So here's the deal. | |
| Here's the deal. | |
| They didn't call KK because they were not, she was not going to be helpful to them. | |
| They spoke with KK is Diddy's right-hand assistant, guys, that was there for everything. | |
| Several witnesses, several witnesses called my office, in fact. | |
| I'm not going to disclose any kind of information that they gave me, but I can tell you that their testimony was not helpful to the government. | |
| And once the government found that out, the government decided not to use them. | |
| So the government spoke to tens and tens of witnesses. | |
| And I just so happen, I don't know why, maybe I'm a witness magnet, but a lot of witnesses called my office in terms of representation. | |
| Obviously, there was some representation that I could not take on because of conflicts. | |
| But I can tell you that a lot of the witnesses that I spoke to were not helpful for the government, and therefore they were never called by the government. | |
| Although they spoke to the government, although they gave statements to the government, the government decided not to use them because they were not going to be helpful to their case. | |
| In fact, they were probably going to hurt their case to help them. | |
| Now, why didn't the defense use them? | |
| Because it's a double-edged sword. | |
| Some of the things that they were going to say were not necessarily helpful to the defense. | |
| So it's one of those things that you're stuck as a defense attorney. | |
| Do you really want to put on that individual witness? | |
| Is the juice, you know, is the juice worth the squeeze? | |
| And for those that are wondering, the defense did not put any witnesses. | |
| They were going to, but they did not. | |
| They decided not to. | |
| They felt as though their cross-examination on the government's witnesses sufficed to create reasonable doubt. | |
| And remember, guys, in the American justice system, as a defendant, you don't have any duty to present a case. | |
| It's the government that's bringing the case where the burden is on them to prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. | |
| As they say. | |
| And in this case, the juice was not worth the squeeze. | |
| I think the defense put on a very nice case in terms of cross-examination of the witnesses, in terms of the individual texts that they brought up, in terms of the receipts that they had, in terms of the Instagram posts that they had. | |
| Those all those things, while not putting on quote-unquote a case, that is the case that they put on, and I think they were very effective. | |
| Bradford, I think you're 100% right in the sense that she might have been not the link they needed to establish there was a criminal enterprise, that there was a criminal agreement. | |
| She might have, her testimony might have really hurt that idea. | |
| But heck, you said, maybe she helps with drug offenses. | |
| Maybe she helps with bribery. | |
| And there are going to be components of that case. | |
| We don't want to concede that. | |
| So I agree. | |
| Okay, we have with us Elizabeth Milner, who is inside the courthouse. | |
| Queen Elizabeth is with us. | |
| Elizabeth, good to see you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| All right, guys, we're going to segue. | |
| I just want to hear what she's got to say. | |
| I'm going to segue. | |
| They're live right now. | |
| Thank you so much for coming out. | |
| I'm just going to ask you straight up. | |
| We got this question that came out from Elizabeth. | |
| This is from Enlin DK. | |
| What was the overall vibe in the room? | |
| And also, this is from Doug K788. | |
| How did the jury look when they came into the room? | |
| How did they look at Diddy? | |
| So what was the vibe? | |
| How did everyone look? | |
| Yeah, as far as the tone and the atmosphere inside that courtroom, Jesse, it was so quiet. | |
| I would say you could hear a pin draw, but really all you could hear were the sounds of the court sketch artist really just kind of drawing her painting. | |
| Because I remember coming in, and normally I come in around like 4:15-ish because I was thinking, okay, it's the end of the day. | |
| Their jury is probably going to want to go home around five. | |
| But then there was this tone, this feeling inside. | |
| The defense was all huddled together. | |
| You saw Anna Maria Esteval's arm kind of around Tenny. | |
| Sean Carl always hesitant to say that he looks defeated or he looks worried or he looks nervous. | |
| But this time was different, Jesse. | |
| I think once that jury note came down, once he saw that actual note about, because he got the clues before we got the clues, as far as they reached a verdict on count two, three, four, and five, I think there was kind of a moment of nervousness. | |
| I felt like you could feel the weight on his shoulder. | |
| And then at first, I was thinking, oh my God, if they're about to read a verdict, where is his entire family? | |
| And then I saw his family member. | |
| And guys, we are streaming on 4K on Rumble, man. | |
| So if you guys are watching on Rumble or on YouTube, we're streaming in 4K, man. | |
| We fixed it. | |
| So you guys should be able to enjoy better quality on either one of those platforms if you choose. | |
| You know, you can watch Rumble Kick. | |
| We're live everywhere. | |
| We're live on Twitter as well, by the way. | |
| So wherever you guys want to watch, you know, it's up to you. | |
| But we're streaming 4K on Rumble and on YouTube. | |
| Some that we haven't seen this morning inside the courtroom start to kind of trickle in. | |
| That included all of his sons. | |
| That included his daughters, too. | |
| And that included also Dana Tran. | |
| It included his mother, Janice. | |
| It included his sister, Keisha, included his brother-in-law, too. | |
| So it was a pretty packed courtroom. | |
| I was thinking at a point that they would just read the verdict. | |
| I didn't know what was going to be going on. | |
| Obviously, everyone, they did not read the verdict. | |
| None of that had happened. | |
| But really, you could feel just the tense atmosphere to the point a lot of us in the press obviously are going to be looking at Sean Combs, looking at his movement, looking at his demeanor. | |
| But because the defense huddled so close around him, likely to kind of prevent us from seeing what his demeanor looked like and for us to write it down, those types of things, it really was a tight circle. | |
| So it really was kind of a tense atmosphere. | |
| And obviously, when the judge got back on the bro, that courtroom is packed with reporters, guys. | |
| I'm telling y'all, like 100-plus reporters were there, man. | |
| With that, they said that they reached a verdict on count two, three, four, and five, but they're still kind of not been able to reach a verdict as to count one. | |
| I think a lot of us were just like, oh my God, it's happening. | |
| It's happening. | |
| Obviously, the verdict wasn't read. | |
| They're going to come back tomorrow, continue deliberating. | |
| You could feel the weight of the world, especially on the defendant, but also the Combs family. | |
| But I will say, Jesse, when they brought the jury in, because they brought them in twice, one to kind of breathe them, I guess, that modified Allen charge about continuing to deliberate, and then the second time to release them. | |
| But by the end of the day, I will say I did kind of note that they weren't looking in the defendant's direction. | |
| I think a lot of them were making their way all the way to their seat, didn't know what the next process would be because, again, they're jurors. | |
| They don't know what's going to be happening. | |
| They didn't know if they were going to be told to continue deliberating tonight, if they could have the option to come back tomorrow. | |
| Obviously, the judge gave them the option to come back tomorrow. | |
| But even when they were exiting the courtroom, from what I could see, I couldn't see them necessarily looking at the defendant. | |
| But if it was vice versa, I did see the defendant looking at the juror. | |
| So, you know, maybe some people kind of did like a little peripheral eye glance look or anything like that. | |
| From what I could see, they didn't look in his direction. | |
| So, we'll see what tomorrow brings as far as what their possible decision might end up being in the outcome. | |
| Let me ask you this: this modified Allen charge that the judge gave to the jury. | |
| What exactly did he tell them? | |
| Did he say, you know, go back deliberating? | |
| It's different, but and it's modified because I think they were trying to stay consistent with what the actual jury instructions were. | |
| What exactly did Judge Arun Subramanian tell them? | |
| Well, he told them to keep on deliberating. | |
| He said that each and every single one of you must decide the case for himself or for herself. | |
| And that no juror should pretty much like waiver on their opinions in terms of if they feel some type of way that they should feel that type of way. | |
| And it's okay for them to feel that type of way. | |
| But in terms of just even what's going to be happening next, is the jury will come back, everyone, and they'll deliberate a little bit. | |
| And then they see, or excuse me, and then they'll continue. | |
| All right, man. | |
| I'm going to keep it all the way a million with you guys. | |
| I don't think I've ever shared this, but let me go ahead and share this. | |
| I wanted to share this yesterday, but I couldn't. | |
| Here's the thing with the Diddy case. | |
| All right. | |
| And this is, I think this is very important for all men, and guys need to listen up. | |
| As you guys know, the case centers around two women that claim that Diddy forced them to do freak offs, okay? | |
| Where the woman would engage, having sex with an escort, and they'd fly these escorts all around, hence why it's a federal charge affecting interstate commerce, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Cassie and a girl named Jane, who we think is 50 says baby mama. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| Right? | |
| So during the course of the trial, because I was there, as you guys know, I spent two weeks there, right? | |
| And I was there actually for some of the most important testimony. | |
| I was there for all of Cassie's testimony, right? | |
| I covered every day that she was there. | |
| And when you look at the text messages, which is what they were showing as evidence, on one side, you got Cassie saying, yo, I didn't want to do this. | |
| I was being forced. | |
| I was being coerced to do this, right? | |
| And then on the other side, you got the text messages that showed that this was consensual. | |
| Now, whether you think Diddy is guilty or not, what I think really matters and what guys need to take away from this is simply this. | |
| We're getting into an era now where women can kind of retroactively withdraw consent, right? | |
| And if you're like a rich, powerful guy and you do some fuck shit, right? | |
| And she feels away about it, she can come back years later and fuck you up. | |
| If I'm going to be honest, again, I'm going to say this. | |
| I want you guys to really understand me here. | |
| This case is going to set the precedent where it could get to a point where women could have an axe to grind with you and come back years later and say, oh, you did XYZ to me if they didn't get a desired result out of the relationship. | |
| Because make no mistake about it, Cassie walked away from this shit with 30 million. | |
| She got 20 million in the lawsuit with Diddy. | |
| And then she got another 10 million from Intercontinental Hotel. | |
| Now, am I saying that Diddy's a saint? | |
| No. | |
| Am I saying he's innocent? | |
| No, I'm not even saying that. | |
| But what I am saying is that a lot of this shit was consensual. | |
| A lot of it. | |
| I looked at the text messages. | |
| They were together for years. | |
| She's an adult. | |
| She could have left, but she stuck around. | |
| The other girl, Jane, that's a witness in this case, who Diddy is still paying her bills to this fucking day, by the way. | |
| A lot of it was consensual. | |
| Sending messages like, I want to go ahead and do XYZ. | |
| So it's like, if the premise is this is consensual sex and what we're doing is consensual, right? | |
| Like, that's the premise. | |
| And it's consensual and we're adults. | |
| Like, if you don't want to do a freak off one time, does that constitute as grape? | |
| See, we're starting to get into this gray area now, right? | |
| Because by that definition, does your wife want to have sex with you every single time you smash? | |
| No. | |
| Sometimes she might be tired. | |
| I don't want to do it. | |
| Can that be constituted as grape? | |
| Who knows? | |
| Right? | |
| Depends on how you frame it and how she feels or what she wants to say. | |
| So what I do think is that this is literally we're starting to get into very murky and dangerous waters here because I'll keep the doubts with y'all. | |
| Like, Diddy is just a perv, right? | |
| He's a perv that likes to watch this chick get smashed. | |
| Weird. | |
| You know, I guess whatever turns people on. | |
| But a lot of this shit was consensual, chat. | |
| I'll be honest with y'all, man. | |
| A lot of it was. | |
| You know, he didn't have a gun to their head saying you can't leave. | |
| But they wanted the lifestyle. | |
| They wanted to be there. | |
| He paid all the bills. | |
| He took care of them. | |
| They were, you know, Limousine Ryan and Jeff Flywhe, you know, on some Ric Flair shit. | |
| And then years later, they come back and say, oh, no, I'm going to testify against this nigga now. | |
| Like one of the witnesses, like his, the one that they called Mia, you know, she's over here saying, oh, Diddy did this to me, did that to me. | |
| And then like after she left, she was still trying to get a job with him. | |
| She was, you know, writing on Instagram, happy birthday. | |
| I love you so much. | |
| You're the best boss ever. | |
| So it's like your testimony isn't lining up with your prior actions. | |
| Like the defense beat her up on that shit. | |
| One of the witnesses, like all three witnesses, Jane, Mia, and Cassie, they beat them up on like, bro, like a lot of this stuff was consensual. | |
| And they're like, yeah, but not this time. | |
| Well, the hundreds of times, how many times was it consensual? | |
| How many times was it? | |
| Now we're getting into murky waters, man. | |
| So again, I'm not saying that he's innocent. | |
| I don't fucking know. | |
| But what I am saying is that this is going to set a precedent that might not be good for men in general in the future. | |
| We've talked about Me Too many times on this channel. | |
| It's alive and fucking well. | |
| And if Diddy loses this case, it's only going to strengthen me too. | |
| And that's the reality. | |
| And that's like the ugly side that a lot of people aren't talking about of what's going to come next from this, depending on the verdict. | |
| You on whether or not they need to bring in more specified instructions. | |
| But from the defense's perspective, they were pretty adamant that they think it's too early for them to come back with any type of split verdict or anything like that. | |
| They were very adamant. | |
| Like I said, often, if there's one holdout, usually a trial in case in San Francisco where they're hold out. | |
| This is their audio chat, not me. | |
| I don't know what's going on. | |
| He would come out. | |
| He's crying. | |
| He's upset. | |
| Everyone was upset. | |
| They came back in dozens of times. | |
| The foreman came back in and said that the verdict, All right, this shit has audio problems. | |
| Okay, I know Nick is going to go on with the Souza soon, I think. | |
| Here's Alex Jones. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Keep it shown here, regardless of what happens. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think he's running commercial. | |
| All right, let's read some chats and then we'll don't worry, guys. | |
| We're still going to cover the Cannon's debate and everything. | |
| Great money Monday yesterday, W. Myron, WOSS Army. | |
| Got you, True Off. | |
| Appreciate that. | |
| Armator, five bucks. | |
| Appreciate you. | |
| Shitting Brick says, W chat from last night kept me up for the eight-hour drive. | |
| I just did. | |
| Almost crashed from the chat roasting W chat. | |
| Hill, bro. | |
| Diggas was cooking yesterday. | |
| You see I can't was burstley asked by Trump. | |
| Okay, we got that one. | |
| Demetrius Rapids. | |
| Yo, Myron, you got to see this Instagram post and read the top comment 100% target at you. | |
| I don't, bro, that link you gave me, it didn't work. | |
| I tried putting it in. | |
| Yo, minds, I need a fresh link for the Discord. | |
| Gaz says, that was Utmost TFM. | |
| Can you guys give him a discord link? | |
| Let's see here. | |
| We got here. | |
| Gaz says, I know he has his wife and husband's dick up his ass, but he should learn to let shit go. | |
| Pause. | |
| Okay. | |
| Almighty says, Myron, I fuck with you, bro. | |
| I support everything you do, but setting up a table in Chicago about drill is the wrong move. | |
| Chicago is a different place than Miami, and I'll be there no matter where you're decisioned. | |
| You're better off debating these 304s. | |
| I come from the streets and I could tell you it's a problem with these young niggas. | |
| It's all good, bro. | |
| We'll set up in like the Gold Coast or something. | |
| Patrick Bateman extra subscribed. | |
| Welcome to the OSS. | |
| As you guys know, man, OSS, join up for four bucks right now. | |
| We got a sale going for you, Ninjas. | |
| So get in now while you guys can. | |
| Get in now while you guys can. | |
| We got, what else do we got here? | |
| One chess says, uh, Candace Owens on the front first French lady, the phone call at 40 seconds. | |
| Okay, I read that one from before. | |
| How's it going, mine? | |
| I send you a video on IG for Red Pearl Topic. | |
| If you can react to it, my handler name is the same as Gokul's. | |
| Okay, yo, Christian, can you send me the link? | |
| Uh, on just send another rant with the link. | |
| Uh, Lessenda X, you never mind if I put the uh pull the trigger for the whole year. | |
| Love the community and everything you're doing, bro. | |
| Big W. I'm a Sri Lankan. | |
| Moved to Sydney, Australia, six months ago, building an AI business. | |
| I once heard you talk about Sri Lankan and Matthew Cox bought. | |
| I believe it was about the LTTE. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| And those terror fighters in the Canada going to the U.S. or something alongside that. | |
| Would want to hear your thoughts on that if time allows the guys experience that war for over 10 years. | |
| Cheers. | |
| Yeah, man. | |
| Definitely did some LTTE shit. | |
| Tamil Tigers. | |
| Hey, Marin, Joino says we can't use emojis on Rumble. | |
| Already linked account, so not sure what's wrong. | |
| Keep up the great work. | |
| It might be that you got to be a sub-member on Rumble because Rumble and locals are still kind of different interfaces. | |
| Hey, Brad, did you decide camera look different now or need some work? | |
| Let me know if Friday come down. | |
| I'll probably call you after. | |
| Okay, so I'm looking here. | |
| Nick still is not on. | |
| So you guys can tell me when they are on and they're debating. | |
| So let's go ahead and go right into Candace. | |
| Don't want to stay at home when you pull them. | |
| They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have. | |
| And I think we should all advocate for that. | |
| All right, we left off here about 10 minutes in. | |
| Also, according to John. | |
| Hey, DPG with the 45, bro. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Thank you, DPG. | |
| I appreciate you greatly, my friend. | |
| Greatly, greatly, bro. | |
| You guys give me support like that. | |
| You guys, you know, add the fuel to the fire to keep me going, bro. | |
| For real, man. | |
| I'm on like three hours of sleep right now, but we're still cooking, bro. | |
| Yo, holy shit, man. | |
| Another 45. | |
| Thank you, bro. | |
| Thank you, bro, so much, man. | |
| DPG, the fucking G, man. | |
| Holy. | |
| I appreciate you, man. | |
| I really do. | |
| DPG is that ninja, man. | |
| Well, I think we left off right here. | |
| 10 minutes. | |
| I'm going to give you another dumb. | |
| And let's not remove this from the other part of the claim, which has made women infinitely less happy. | |
| Right. | |
| So are you saying? | |
| Okay, so yeah, we just crossed 286k, guys, by the way. | |
| So we guys officially, we started this channel at 186,000 subscribers. | |
| I'll never forget, I started streaming on this channel doing this shit in January. | |
| We were at 186,000. | |
| Today, guys, we are 100,000 subscribers up. | |
| So shout out to you guys. | |
| The fucking community is growing. | |
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| Guys, we're sitting at like 15 million views for the month. | |
| This channel only has 286,000 subscribers, by the way. | |
| We grew 100,000 on YouTube while being demonetized, while being shadow banned, while being told that we're bigots, not getting invited on podcasts, getting banned from certain places, getting demonetized, all this shit. | |
| We still Persa veered, baby. | |
| Punch. | |
| Never give up, never surrender, guys. | |
| We've been fucking demonetized for two years. | |
| Most YouTubers would have quit off that, man, but we found the fucking way. | |
| Fucking beginning of this year, you know, we were like, man, this shit sucks. | |
| You know, we're over here trying to figure out a way, make shit happen. | |
| And we never gave up, bro. | |
| And, you know, still doing Fresh of Fit. | |
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| And, you know, the grind is fucking worth it, man. | |
| Six months, 100,000 subscribers, guys. | |
| We started the channel at 186,000 together in January of 2025. | |
| Seven months. | |
| So it's July 1st now. | |
| We crossed 286 literally like yesterday. | |
| So big fucking milestone, guys. | |
| 100,000 in seven months. | |
| Thanks to you guys, man. | |
| So Dona Marco to you guys that watch and support. | |
| Thank you guys so much, bro. | |
| And we're almost to 2,000 people on OSS. | |
| So great shit, man. | |
| Great shit. | |
| But you're saying that, according to you, women have been devalued. | |
| Not according to me. | |
| According to the time in which people are getting married, how difficult it is for people to find a partner that's willing to commit to them. | |
| And I think that's in large part due to the all right. | |
| We were on this girl. | |
| This girl's the retard. | |
| This is the one that we were on. | |
| We're on her. | |
| So we'll start with her from new. | |
| Hey, I'm Nikki. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| So when we're talking about the value of women on a societal scale and how we view each other, right? | |
| When you're devaluing us, you're objectifying us. | |
| And follow me, I promise. | |
| But rape rates have gone down by about half in the last 20 years. | |
| The only thing I ask. | |
| If you're saying we're less valuable now, why wouldn't we be suffering at a higher rate? | |
| So is the argument that you're making, just so I understand that because women are giving up sex for free, they're not being raped. | |
| Every study shows rape is not correlated with just sexual gratification. | |
| It is a power structure. | |
| So it is about objectifying and abusing women when you rape them, not about whether or not you want sex. | |
| What I am saying is that women are less objectified, so therefore we are being raped less. | |
| Okay, so you think that in today's today's society, because this is pretty wild for me. | |
| In the 1950s, you're saying women were more objectified than today in the land of OnlyFans, the Kardashian clan, and women that are essentially putting up their boobs and butts for free. | |
| Yeah, women are more objectified now than ever before. | |
| In the 50s, we used to protect women from objectifying themselves. | |
| That's literally what the religion, what religion, community, shame, all these things used to be in play to keep women from fucking themselves up. | |
| On Instagram, you're saying we are now, we finally have achieved less objectification where women can't even get onto an advertising. | |
| You can't even advertise a bag without them having to be naked in order for them to get a career as a model. | |
| You're saying, oh, great, we've achieved actually less objectification. | |
| So I'm not trying to suggest that I think that the over-commodification of women's bodies is positive. | |
| But what I am saying is that when you're going to the 1950s, that we shouldn't put this glazed look of, oh, it was so happy. | |
| We had single-income households and we got to stay home. | |
| We also had a pill-popping problem. | |
| We also were viewed as maids. | |
| Like we were seen as a house appliance far more than we were as people. | |
| And this is where I said yesterday. | |
| So notice how she says, oh, women were looked at as a house appliance, but men don't complain about being looked at as wallets when we're providers, right? | |
| Like, isn't it interesting when like men have duties? | |
| It's like, yo, do your fucking job, be a man. | |
| But when women have duties, they say, oh, I'm not a fucking appliance. | |
| Did you guys catch on to that? | |
| Have you guys caught on to that? | |
| I've kind of noticed this where if you put responsibilities on women and tell them, yo, you're supposed to do this, they'll say, oh, why are you objectifying me? | |
| Or I'm not like a fucking sandwich maker or an appliance. | |
| But if, you know, if they say, yo, be a man, be a protector. | |
| What I'm not your fucking security guard. | |
| I'm not your fucking bank. | |
| I'm not your wallet, right? | |
| But like for some odd reason, like we don't shame women back for them objectifying us, but they try to shame us for us objectifying them. | |
| But the reality is they objectify themselves. | |
| That's the fucking truth. | |
| Guys, I've said this before, I'll say it again. | |
| No one can objectify you unless you objectify yourself first. | |
| Okay? | |
| So when women trust like dots and the dudes objectify them in response, it's because they objectify themselves first. | |
| If you don't respect yourself, no one's going to respect you. | |
| But women don't understand this shit. | |
| They think that respect is given just for existing. | |
| That's one of the biggest differences between men and women. | |
| Men understand, right? | |
| We innately understand that we must earn our respect. | |
| Women, on the other hand, think, oh, respect is just given because I'm a lady. | |
| It's not the same. | |
| Respect is earned. | |
| But for women, they think it's just because I got a vagina, just give it to me. | |
| And the other thing, too, is that when you put responsibility on them, they'll shirk it off and be like, oh, I'm not your appliance. | |
| What am I supposed to be? | |
| A slave? | |
| Right? | |
| But no, I've never heard a man say, oh, I'm a fucking slave for walking and working and taking care of my family. | |
| No, that's your fucking job. | |
| We would all laugh at that nigga if he complained about being a breadwinner taking care of his family. | |
| But if a woman, right, is supposed to do chores or cook or clean, I'm a slave. | |
| Isn't that interesting? | |
| Female responsibilities are always looked at as slavery or bad. | |
| Meanwhile, male responsibilities are looked at as you shut up and fucking do it. | |
| You guys ever noticed that fucking restrained double standard? | |
| Very few people have caught on to that. | |
| Fucking wild, dude. | |
| Absolutely nuts. | |
| And then women wonder why they can't get a guy. | |
| And so when you have that kind of objectification where you are in a subservient position, I think we're facing a different form today. | |
| But I think that rape is a signifier of a contradiction to your statement. | |
| Okay. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| It doesn't make sense, but I do want to rebut it on a couple of points. | |
| So first, I just want to say, suggesting that. | |
| Guys, when the Nick debate starts, let me know, and we'll play it live. | |
| Because I'm looking at Alex Jones right now, and I don't see... | |
| ...the census before 2026 midterms, and only count Americans, not illegal... | |
| Yeah, he's not there yet. | |
| Objectification has gone downward since the 1950s is wild. | |
| That's just a firm no. | |
| That is not the truth. | |
| And you know that's not true. | |
| Wait, so do you feel like— Let me answer your second thing. | |
| Second thing. | |
| You then brought up, okay. | |
| Women were at home, but they were pill popping. | |
| Well, it's you then have to acknowledge we're actually popping more pills now, right? | |
| So, we have actually increased our amount of pill popping. | |
| Women are having overdoses on opioids, and on top of that, since I think 1999, by rate, we are increasing our opioid use compared to men. | |
| So, women are not popping pills less because we're going into the workforce. | |
| That's actually not true at all either. | |
| And we're also, like I said, to you, consuming alcohol more and binge drinking more than we did in the 1950s, which is why I was trying to get her to say, We need to look at actually a reasonable, give me any reasonable metric of how we can define happiness because it's hard, right? | |
| Are you happy, yes or no? | |
| But you're waiting. | |
| We're actually avoiding what my original point was: was about rape being the signifier. | |
| Okay, pause. | |
| You've been voted out by the majority. | |
| Please return to your seat. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| Hey, and by the way, guys, we crossed the fucking 3,000 mark on kick. | |
| We hit 3,077, man. | |
| Shout out to you guys. | |
| Thank you to DPG. | |
| Thank you to TPC Films, Unforgiven 22. | |
| She Belongs to the Streets. | |
| Thanks to all you guys at Gift on Kick, man. | |
| And enjoy watching on Kick. | |
| It seems like we got a bunch of you guys that like watching the stream on Kick, man. | |
| So hi. | |
| Hi. | |
| I like your hat. | |
| Whitney Shanahan. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| I am fascinated by your claim that women have lost happiness since the sexual revolution, since the 19th. | |
| She belongs to the streets with another gifted sub. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| 50s. | |
| Do you think that there is any tie to happiness and freedom and happiness and choice? | |
| Because since the 1950s, since the sexual revolution, women have gotten exponentially more freedom and more choice. | |
| And for me, as a mother and as a woman, having the freedom to choose what I do to make my own destiny makes me infinitely more happy than, say, back before the sexual revolution when I couldn't get a bank account, couldn't get a home loan, couldn't work outside the home, couldn't travel around without a man, couldn't control my own reproduction. | |
| So I feel that happiness, personally, my belief is tied to our ability to have freedom. | |
| And I think that in the United States, protecting freedom and our individual freedoms is what's going to lead us to happiness. | |
| Yeah, she just made an anecdote, like, okay, that's for you. | |
| That's for you. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like, it's crazy how she comes in, like, ah, freedom. | |
| For me. | |
| College. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Okay, great. | |
| Did you? | |
| Yes, I did. | |
| So you have a degree. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Now, when you went to college, did you go to college because it was simply something that you wanted to do? | |
| Or did you think that I have to go to college because in order to get a job, I have to have a college degree? | |
| I went to college for art because I was fascinated with art. | |
| Of course, a useless degree. | |
| As always. | |
| Okay. | |
| Bruh. | |
| It's just answering my question. | |
| Did you go to college? | |
| Was that the only reason you went to college? | |
| Or did you think that I might want to do something in art so I have to go to college for my career? | |
| I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizon. | |
| Translation. | |
| Be a fucking return to waste time. | |
| Bro, see? | |
| All right. | |
| You know what? | |
| I know what I'm going to do. | |
| Let's let her say what she's going to say, and then I'll decode it for you guys. | |
| How about that? | |
| I think that will be far more better, far, far better. | |
| For the purposes of education. | |
| So let's double check. | |
| Okay. | |
| Still not there. | |
| All right. | |
| To university. | |
| No, I'd expand my horizon. | |
| To go to college, like for my career. | |
| I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizons. | |
| I mean, I all right. | |
| Let's translate Domini's. | |
| Guys, women say stupid shit like this, like expand my horizons, right? | |
| Find myself, all this other shit. | |
| You know what that fucking means? | |
| Be a fucking slut, guys. | |
| That's what it means. | |
| Okay. | |
| Like, women will sit there and say stupid shit like this all the time. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Expand my horizons. | |
| Find myself. | |
| Travel, right? | |
| Become a better woman. | |
| All this dumb shit. | |
| Bro, it's all cap. | |
| It's to be a whore. | |
| That's what it is. | |
| I want to travel and learn and explore and show whore. | |
| Want to be a whore. | |
| Mike, understand, guys, that the way that women communicate isn't like us. | |
| They don't speak directly. | |
| They don't speak overtly. | |
| Everything they say is covert. | |
| Okay? | |
| Everything they say is covert. | |
| So when they say the things that they say, there's always like an undertone to it. | |
| And the reason why they speak this way is because if they actually said what they mean, they would look like sluts or they would look poor. | |
| Guys, for you guys to understand this, let's go into female nature a little bit, okay? | |
| Let's really break this down. | |
| So look, female nature is basically this. | |
| Women are the weaker and more vulnerable gender. | |
| Since they're the weaker and more vulnerable gender, they need numbers to defend themselves and insulate themselves against danger. | |
| So this is why women are social creatures, because they need to be able to not just socialize with other individuals, but also be able to quickly ascertain if someone's on some weird shit. | |
| Now, I don't know if you guys know this or if you've noticed this, but when you go out with a girl or when you're hanging or when women meet people, right, notice how they're able to pick up on men that are creepy very, very fucking quickly, right? | |
| They're able to get the vibe. | |
| They can't even describe it to you, but when a guy's kind of off or not all the way there or strange or peculiar, they immediately pick up on that. | |
| And the reason for that is because women have a natural spidey sense where they can detect irregular behavior, especially from men, because it's a defense mechanism so that they can go ahead and run. | |
| They can't put up two fucking fists and box the nigga and win. | |
| Most women will get beat up by a fucking 13-year-old boy, just so you guys know, okay? | |
| That's how physically inferior women are to men. | |
| A 13-year-old boy could beat up like 90% of females. | |
| So therefore, they don't have the strength advantage. | |
| So they rely upon numbers. | |
| Now, now that you guys understand that women are social creatures and they rely on other people, you need to know that since their safety is intimately tied to their ability to socialize within a group, you need to understand that the biggest fear that they have is being ostracized by the fucking group, okay? | |
| That is the biggest fear. | |
| Because if they're ostracized from the group, they're out in the wilderness left to their own devices. | |
| And if they're left to their own devices, that means they got to fight off the fucking dangers out in the wilderness and shit, which they can't really do. | |
| Okay? | |
| Which they can't really do. | |
| So the reason why, and this is all to bring it back full circle for you guys, the reason why women don't speak overtly and say what's on their mind is because they don't want to be ostracized by the group. | |
| So they say things in a way that is politically correct or not crass or not rude or not disruptive. | |
| Another thing, women don't want to be looked at as whores because if a woman is looked at as a whore, what ends up happening is she's not able to get a higher status male that can provide resources to her. | |
| So they're never going to say, right, I want to go to Miami to get fucked by five black guys. | |
| No, she's going to say, we're going on a girls trip and we're going to have fun. | |
| That's how women communicate. | |
| She's not going to say, oh, I sucked this guy's dick in the elevator because I'm a raging fucking thought and I have a boyfriend at home. | |
| She's going to say, yeah, I entertained other men or I cheated. | |
| They always downplay or minimize the fuckery because if they were to tell you what it really is, rightfully so, we're going to look at them as sluts and be disgusted. | |
| And if we discuss, we're discussing with them, we're more than likely going to ostracize them from the group. | |
| And that is every woman's fucking chief fear, okay? | |
| I don't give a fuck what any of these bitches try to tell you. | |
| Women want to be accepted by the masses because the masses is what ensures their survival. | |
| So to bring it back full circle all the way here, the reason why she's saying, oh, expand my horizons is because she doesn't want to say, I went to college to fuck a bunch of fucking frat boys and athletes and experiment fucking black dudes for the first time. | |
| She doesn't want to say that for obvious reasons. | |
| Right? | |
| So guys, women never communicate overtly because they can't afford to. | |
| They can't defend their ideas. | |
| Okay? | |
| Every single revolution was fought by dudes. | |
| Why? | |
| Because men have the ability to put up their fists, raise up a gun, raise up a fucking sword, and fight for their beliefs. | |
| Women don't lead revolutions ever. | |
| Okay? | |
| They just don't. | |
| All right? | |
| They don't. | |
| When it comes to like revolutions where wars have to be fought, real shit, it's always dudes, not women. | |
| So since women can't actually defend their beliefs through violence, they must implore this tactic where they have to speak surreptitiously or in a very vague manner to convey ideas so that they don't get ostracized by their counterparts. | |
| Give me ones in the chat if that makes sense. | |
| But this is why women never mean what they say and say what they mean. | |
| I think that's why most people go to university. | |
| Yeah, I do why most people go to. | |
| Bro, people go, university college is an acceptable way. | |
| It's a socially acceptable way to spend four years being a fucking degenerate. | |
| That's what college is. | |
| For 99% of college students, it's four years of acceptable fuck fucking off. | |
| Sexually, that's actually not true. | |
| Awesome. | |
| I see a lot of ones in the chat. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Hey, man, we still blend this red pill shit in here too, man. | |
| It's not just politics. | |
| We blend this red pillshit in here as well. | |
| TBC Films with the 10 gifted subs. | |
| I appreciate you, bro. | |
| Yo, TBC, how does camera 3 look, by the way, bro? | |
| I don't know why. | |
| I don't know if this is like focused or whatever. | |
| What the fuck, man? | |
| This shit doesn't. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think it looks okay, but it like keeps blurring and shit like that. | |
| So let me know, bro. | |
| How I need to adjust it. | |
| But yeah, I don't think it's as focused as it should be. | |
| So anyway, I'll talk to you on the side after the show. | |
| And then this is camera four, by the way, so you can see it. | |
| I know we didn't get to finish this one, but yeah. | |
| Anyway, I know you're watching the show, so we'll figure it out. | |
| I went, and I think a lot of people go because there's a pressure that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a failure. | |
| It's a choice. | |
| Everything's a choice. | |
| So you're taking away choices doesn't make people happier. | |
| Taking away from you. | |
| I'm actually disagreeing with you on the idea that people are feeling more free by financial pressure. | |
| I think financial pressure makes people feel remarkably less free. | |
| So you want no bank accounts again? | |
| Women not to have credit cards? | |
| I'm not saying that women shouldn't have access to credit cards or banking accounts. | |
| I love how she just like totally misrepresented her position. | |
| And like, that's another thing that they do. | |
| Like, she's saying, hey, I don't know if women should be like, you know, having a lot of financial pressure. | |
| Oh, are you saying they shouldn't have credit cards? | |
| Like, bro, what the fuck? | |
| How'd you come to that conclusion? | |
| You're putting words in my mouth. | |
| So why don't you respond to the words that I'm saying? | |
| There you go, Candace. | |
| Well, less financial pressure. | |
| If I don't have a bank account, that's a lot less financial pressure, I guess, right? | |
| Financial pressure in terms of most people that go to college, and I'm counting myself among them. | |
| It's because typically, in order to get the job that you're being sold is going to make you infinitely happier and infinitely more free, it just requires a college degree. | |
| And most of these people, to be clear, have to put themselves, the majority of people, have to put themselves into debt. | |
| And I don't think anybody would describe debt as a form of freedom, right? | |
| I don't think anybody would realistically say. | |
| Let's get back to happiness. | |
| So we're here to talk about happiness and how the sexual revolution, and we're not talking about college debt. | |
| I think it's important because we are, we're talking about freedom. | |
| You just said that the reason why I feel happy is because I have more freedom. | |
| And I am saying that financial restraints and debt doesn't make people feel more free. | |
| So let's eliminate the debt. | |
| Let's eliminate color situations. | |
| Maybe we should have a free college here in the U.S. That sounds a great idea, Candace. | |
| I love that idea. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| Love it. | |
| Champion. | |
| Champion for the people, bro. | |
| Fucking retarding. | |
| Very nice. | |
| All right. | |
| Return to your seat. | |
| Surrounded is now a podcast available wherever you listen. | |
| Identify that class. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Here we go. | |
| All right, bro. | |
| These niggas right here are the worst. | |
| Yo, there is nothing worse than a male fucking feminist chat. | |
| Male feminists are some of the worst motherfuckers ever. | |
| So we're going to see what this guy's got to say. | |
| But before we do, quick word from our sponsor, niggas. | |
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| But I'll take the financial hit to reach more people, especially on YouTube where people go and talk about this shit. | |
| Gets a phone call. | |
| She talks about. | |
| All right. | |
| One of you guys sent me a video on, I guess, PBD. | |
| Candace is weak character. | |
| Trump calls Candace Owens's brigade scandal spirals. | |
| Bro, niggas are so mad at Candace, bro. | |
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| Hi, Candace. | |
| Hi, nice to meet you. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| I'm John. | |
| Okay, so I feel like a lot of your arguments today are very rooted in a sort of old school perspective. | |
| I have to be honest. | |
| Like, I think, and I'm not. | |
| Yeah, that's what traditionalism is, my friend. | |
| Traditionalism is old schoolness, hence the word tradition. | |
| Trying to be insulting whatsoever. | |
| Feel as though most people would identify that claim as pretty extreme and pretty like children are extreme. | |
| Well, no, that women would get more happiness inherently from raising kids than having a job or deciding what they want to do with their lives. | |
| Why is that? | |
| I'm just curious. | |
| Why would having children, which is just a natural biological conclusion, be something? | |
| Isn't that crazy how having a family, the nuclear family, is now considered extreme? | |
| Isn't that wild, chat? | |
| Oh shit, Bill's calling. | |
| You know what? | |
| Let me take this time to test out how the phone shit works. | |
| Hold on, chat. | |
| Yo, yo, Bills, hold on, hold on. | |
| I'm going to try this Bluetooth thing real quick. | |
| Okay, cool, sure. | |
| Yeah, hold on. | |
| I might as well because I got you on the phone. | |
| Let's see how it works. | |
| Okay, let's see. | |
| Let's see. | |
| I got the phone channel on. | |
| All right. | |
| Talk. | |
| Test, test. | |
| Hey, yo, chat, can you guys hear Bills? | |
| I think we're good, baby. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Yeah, so it's good, dude. | |
| It's working on a whole other channel. | |
| Guys, so we're going to start doing the phone calls probably this week on a debrief. | |
| So, yeah, so this is how it's going to be, guys, when we do the calling portions of the show. | |
| But yo, what's up, Bills? | |
| You're on the air, by the way. | |
| They can hear you. | |
| Yeah, I was just doing an audio check. | |
| How's the audio look for you? | |
| I think it's good. | |
| They're saying that the audio is, I had to turn up the USB volume a little bit, but they're saying the mic is crispy, man. | |
| Guys, what do you think about the mic? | |
| Or what do you guys think about the microphone audio? | |
| And I told them earlier how you said that if they said the mic audio was bad, that's fucking like this. | |
| Yeah, fuck this. | |
| The mic audio is bad. | |
| I was actually there watching when you said that shit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I was like, W Myron, bro. | |
| No, man. | |
| Yo, video coming. | |
| Oh, by the way, just so you guys know, we're posting a lot of Bills, you want to tell them about the Castle Club stuff? | |
| We're doing minus scenes for them real fast. | |
| Yeah, we're going to start posting a lot of Castle Club vlogs, some a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff for you guys. | |
| A lot of Myron's perspective, a lot of Fresh's perspective, a lot more just BTS content. | |
| Just a lot more content overall. | |
| So make sure you guys are joining Castle Club. | |
| Join OSS ASAP. | |
| Oh, I got the other boss on the line. | |
| My, I got Fresh on the line. | |
| Let me hit you right back. | |
| All right, man. | |
| No worries, bro. | |
| Yeah, yeah, great. | |
| Anyways, sounds great. | |
| I'll just check the audio. | |
| All right, bro. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| All right, peace. | |
| All right, peace. | |
| Yeah, no worries. | |
| All right. | |
| W Bills, as always, man. | |
| Frank, you want to say what's up to the people? | |
| Look, Frank is here, guys. | |
| Just in case y'all were wondering. | |
| This is my dog, Frank. | |
| Some of you guys may or may not know him. | |
| He is the O slash mascot, pretty much. | |
| Look, see, he already does O slash. | |
| He does it. | |
| Hey, what's up, buddy? | |
| How are you? | |
| You okay? | |
| You want to drool on my new hoodie I just got, man? | |
| Okay. | |
| Look, you got this little bow tie. | |
| Here, come here. | |
| Come here, buddy. | |
| Here, come here. | |
| Come here. | |
| That noise is his tail is wagging and hitting the fucking shit all over the place. | |
| Look at this nigga, bro. | |
| He got a bow tie. | |
| You guys see that? | |
| You got this little fucking bow tie right here? | |
| Look good. | |
| Looking good, buddy. | |
| You looking really handsome. | |
| Okay. | |
| You got this blue little bow tie, bro. | |
| All right, man. | |
| All right. | |
| All right, buddy. | |
| Go to your bed. | |
| Go to your bed. | |
| I got to work, nigga. | |
| Frank, hold on. | |
| He's tangled in the headphone wire. | |
| Hold on, buddy. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | |
| There you go. | |
| You're good, buddy. | |
| You're good. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, Frank. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, buddy. | |
| All right, go to your bed. | |
| Go to your bed. | |
| All right. | |
| Sorry about that, chat. | |
| This guy. | |
| All right. | |
| Yeah, he's a year old, guys. | |
| He's a full border collie, 100% border collie. | |
| That is his breed, if you guys are wondering. | |
| Okay, let's get back into the debate. | |
| Let's see what this feminist has. | |
| Male feminists, these guys are the worst niggas ever. | |
| He literally said having a family is extreme. | |
| Traditionalism is extreme. | |
| Okay, buddy. | |
| I think that sounds extreme. | |
| I just said inherently. | |
| Inherently. | |
| That's the inherent expectation. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's better for it's inherent because it's biological. | |
| So I think when we think about things that are inherent, I think biology is a good thing to start with, right? | |
| So biologically speaking, men and women come together, they form families, and that's the reason why you're sitting here. | |
| That's the reason that I'm sitting here is because biology is inherent. | |
| So saying it's just, it's just natural order that we're speaking about, right? | |
| Okay, let's break it down. | |
| So why do you believe that? | |
| Why do you believe that? | |
| Why do I believe that? | |
| Why do you inherently, inherently are happier? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You keep stressing this word inherent. | |
| All right, this guy's an atheist. | |
| Here we go. | |
| How much you guys want to bet? | |
| I got on my bingo card that this guy's a fucking an atheist. | |
| You niggas saying that this guy's a mutt? | |
| Bro, fuck y'all niggas, bro. | |
| Frank is not no mutt, man. | |
| Frank is 100% border collie, aka master race, okay? | |
| Master race dog. | |
| He's not like your fucking dumbass pit bull or retarded and shit. | |
| This nigga Frank is like a genius. | |
| Literally, I'm not kidding around. | |
| Bro is literally a genius. | |
| Okay? | |
| Any of you guys see me, man? | |
| I'm going to have to walk him on Instagram for you dumbass niggas in here. | |
| Some of you niggas are new. | |
| Okay? | |
| Don't diss my dog. | |
| It's not no fucking mutt. | |
| Niggas pure border collie. | |
| High IQ. | |
| Does tricks. | |
| Nigga can shake your hand. | |
| Okay? | |
| Knows how to do poi, knows how to spin. | |
| He knows how to give a hug. | |
| He knows how to walk him without a leash. | |
| Niggas master race. | |
| Some of you dumbass niggas got a dumbass pit bull. | |
| Or a rottweiler or some other stupid fucking dog that can't do no tricks. | |
| Useless like Hero. | |
| Fuck out of here, man. | |
| Cloud home. | |
| Pawn. | |
| Talk a shit about Frank, bro. | |
| This nigga needs a, he even knows how to do O-slash. | |
| What the fuck you guys talk about? | |
| Some of you guys don't even know what an O-slash is. | |
| This nigga was here with me when we made it. | |
| God damn it. | |
| What are you talking about, bro? | |
| Frank is one of the original O-slashers. | |
| Fuck out of here, man. | |
| This nigga will fuck your cat up, too. | |
| And your dumbass dog. | |
| This nigga's smarter than all of them. | |
| Talk a shit about my dog, bro. | |
| Meanwhile, your name is fucking Jaquarius. | |
| You got a stupid ass pit bull that bites everybody on the block, dumbass. | |
| Dog almost got put down three times because you're stupid. | |
| You don't know how to train him. | |
| Dummy. | |
| Talk a shit about my dog, man. | |
| Yeah, I think because it speaks to natural order. | |
| And did you niggas see him? | |
| He's handsome. | |
| He got a blue bow tie and shit. | |
| His eyes are green. | |
| He's brown and white. | |
| Niggas better looking than me even. | |
| Don't fucking insult my dog, man. | |
| Fuck out of here, bro. | |
| Especially when I know that your name is fucking Jaquarius or some shit. | |
| You probably got like a shitty ass boxer. | |
| Fuck out of here, nigga. | |
| Every piece of life, I think, is enriched by children. | |
| Don't you think it's natural for women to get to decide what they want to do with their lives? | |
| I do not think that saying women can decide whether or not they want to go to work or have children is problematic. | |
| What I'm saying to you is that women will get the most fulfillment from having a family. | |
| Because it's natural. | |
| It's natural, but also children are wonderful and beautiful and spiritually divine creatures. | |
| I mean, they're just, they're amazing. | |
| There's everything about having a child. | |
| Yes, it's a lot of work. | |
| It's just, it's beautiful. | |
| I hear that. | |
| Okay, what if there's a little girl born and it's her dream her entire life to be an author or to be on TV or any of these things? | |
| And having children is very expensive. | |
| It takes a lot of time. | |
| So how is it better for that, like, and I understand this hypothetical, but that hypothetical little girl to have children than to pursue these things that would make her happy if she could. | |
| I just think that if she publishes the book and she has a child, she would agree with me that the child was more fulfilling and made her happy. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Bro, ask a mom, hey, would you give up your career for your kids? | |
| They always say yes, bro. | |
| Like the career matters until it don't anymore. | |
| And that's another thing that these fucking liberals don't understand, right? | |
| They just don't get it. | |
| Yo, are they debating it or what? | |
| What's going on here, man? | |
| What's going on here with Alex Jones and Nick? | |
| You're supposed to be debating here, bro. | |
| All right. | |
| We're happy. | |
| That's what I'm happier than the book did, is what I'm saying. | |
| And I say this as a published author of the New York Times. | |
| I would choose my children over my best-selling book. | |
| There you go. | |
| Literally. | |
| And here's the thing that's actually really good. | |
| Candace is wildly successful, right? | |
| And she's even saying, no, my kids aren't come forward before my career, whatever. | |
| Because if you guys notice, she only streams for like maybe an hour a day, not even like 45 minutes to 50 minutes a day, right? | |
| So, and she does that to optimize time with her kids, right? | |
| And I've seen how she does things behind the line. | |
| The scene, she has like a whole team. | |
| And I'm sure she does that. | |
| She has that whole team. | |
| So that all she's got to do is come in, sit down, talk, get off the mic, and then be done. | |
| And then goes back to her kids. | |
| Right? | |
| So even someone here that's wildly successful is selling this dumbass, bro. | |
| I'm where a lot of women want to be. | |
| And I'm here to tell you that having kids is more important. | |
| And I was that little girl who had a dream that, like, oh, it would be really great if I could share my thoughts and ideas in a book. | |
| But it is utter insanity for me to reflect on that and say that I would have rather published books. | |
| And you guys know, there's probably like, on one hand, the amount of women that I respect, and Candace is absolutely one of them. | |
| You know, I had the pleasure of meeting her last year. | |
| I think she's going to be back here at the end of the year. | |
| So, you know, and here's the thing, too, with Candace that I really like, right? | |
| Unfortunately, since so many women are stupid, they're not going to take my messaging. | |
| You know, women that listen to me are smart. | |
| I'll be honest, Joe. | |
| All you ladies that watch me, you guys are higher IQ. | |
| Because you guys clearly are able to discern the fact that this is important information and put your feelings to the side, which is very difficult for a lot of women to do, right? | |
| So I'm very aware of the fact that my message is simply not going to resonate with a lot of women because it's very in your face, right? | |
| This type of messaging, this type of content is better suited for men. | |
| So what Ken is able to is Ken is able to get in front of an audience of women because she can speak their language, she looks like them, etc. | |
| So it's really good to have, you know, a few people like this where they can reach out to the demographic that won't listen to us and still get these ideas out. | |
| So I do think that it's needed to a degree because there's just people that I can't get to. | |
| Let's just be honest here. | |
| Right. | |
| So if we want to red pill the masses, you are going to need a couple of female allies because they're just going to simply be able to get into rooms and make shit happen that you won't be able to. | |
| Because a considerable amount of our audience is female. | |
| And she's putting this message out to them, which is very important. | |
| Blackout than to have my three children. | |
| But why is it rather? | |
| You see what I'm saying? | |
| It's not rather. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| But she's like one in a million, bro. | |
| Most of these chicks are fucking bimbos, man. | |
| There's very few female YouTubers or podcasters that I respect and she's one of them. | |
| That's your claim, though. | |
| They will be more fulfilled. | |
| Yes. | |
| So rather. | |
| Well, if it's an either or, if you're saying it's an either or, I'm just saying that if these two things are happening, have happened in your life, the thing that will bring you more spiritual fulfillment will be children. | |
| And so women who are neglecting that, who are neglecting the pathway to strive toward family because they think their career is going to hug them at night, or they think that when they're on their deathbed, their career. | |
| Yo, Myron Gaines cut. | |
| The message, I don't know what I'm looking, bro. | |
| That link doesn't work. | |
| There's nothing there. | |
| Supposed to be today at 7 p.m. Central Time, which is 6 p.m. | |
| Now is going to come up next to them and say, you were so great to me. | |
| I think that they have stepped into a delusion and I'm hopeful that they wake up from it before it's too late. | |
| All right, pause. | |
| Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority. | |
| Please return to your seat. | |
| Hi. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| Okay, so currently women make up about 47% of the oh my god, this fucking retard. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Andrew embarrassed her dumbass. | |
| If this were the case and that women were just inherently unhappy or unfulfilled working and would just prefer to be at home, why don't they? | |
| Because it's we've made that due to prior feminist waves. | |
| Yep. | |
| Doubling the workforce, inflation, et cetera, all of that has made it where now women, it's very difficult for women to go back and be house mothers and be house makers. | |
| Very difficult to do now. | |
| Damn near impossible. | |
| Nearly impossible because now, which I believe. | |
| There we go, baby. | |
| Guys, I did not see this debate, by the way. | |
| FYI, guys, I'm watching this debate for the first time just like you guys. | |
| Okay. | |
| I have not seen this debate. | |
| I believe the reason that the government wanted women to enter the workforce is because it gave them an opportunity to tax. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Central time is no, bro. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Bro, 7 p.m. Central Time. | |
| Is it 7 p.m.? | |
| Yeah. | |
| They're an hour behind us. | |
| So it should be now. | |
| They said 7 CFC. | |
| 7 CFC chat is fucking 6 now. | |
| 8 Eastern? | |
| X a household twice. | |
| And so this goes back. | |
| Whatever, bro. | |
| Fuck it. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| 8 Eastern. | |
| Okay, so it's going to be an hour and a half. | |
| All right, we got time then. | |
| All good. | |
| Back to what I was saying is that there's a lot of financial pressure that is being exerted on young women to enter the workforce and they do so blindly. | |
| Shit, I didn't sleep, bro. | |
| I'm fucking dead right now. | |
| Under this illusion. | |
| Sorry, guys. | |
| I'm fucking half asleep right now, man. | |
| I ain't gonna lie to y'all, bro. | |
| I slept like four hours, man. | |
| That somehow entering the workforce is going to make you more fulfilled. | |
| Yeah, I'll get off after that dick debate, man. | |
| I'm cooked. | |
| Like getting yourself into six figures of debt, going to college to then take on a career debt and having to pay student loans while you make 35K is going to make you happier. | |
| And I'm saying that isn't actually true. | |
| Okay, so I hear that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| At the same time, would you not agree that men and that women can both have a career and have children? | |
| I mean, you are actively doing that right now. | |
| And I want to be very clear because I am actively doing it right now. | |
| I would be my bad, guys. | |
| I'm fucking dead, bro. | |
| Someone that you would call an exception because I get to work from home. | |
| I get to wake up in the morning. | |
| I don't have a boss, right? | |
| I don't have to go into the office from nine to five. | |
| I get to then, therefore, spend the entire morning with my children. | |
| So you are an exception, and the 47% of women that make up our labor force are also an exception. | |
| No, the exact opposite. | |
| So, I'm trying to make it more realistic because I think it's it's really bad form when people who are able to stay at home, right, and are able to start working at you know one o'clock p.m. as I do after being around their children. | |
| The children are running around all day, will then preach to you that every woman can have this. | |
| That's that's not the reality. | |
| The reality is that the overwhelming majority of people are stuck behind a desk all day and they're not happy. | |
| They're not and this is kind of my position on it. | |
| I've talked to you guys before about women working. | |
| My thing is, I don't think women should work. | |
| However, she should be in a position where what she does for work is elective, right? | |
| So, I think it's every man's duty, right? | |
| I think I've said this only like maybe once or twice. | |
| So, this might shock some of you on ideas. | |
| I think it's every man's duty where your girl can go to her boss and say, Suck a dick, if she even has one. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Like, she can literally tell her her job to fuck off at any time. | |
| It's your duty to give her that security where she can say, I don't want to work, or tell her boss, fuck off, or whatever, right? | |
| That's your job as the man. | |
| Women should be working 100% electively. | |
| And to be honest with you, optimally, it should be from home where she's still with the kids, right? | |
| So, you know, obviously, I don't live in a fucking box. | |
| I understand it's 2025, things are expensive, and inflation is wild, very difficult to make it without a double income. | |
| I understand that. | |
| However, I do think as a man, it is your duty to work really hard so you make enough money where you can take care of both y'all and your wife or your serious partner has the ability and capability to go to her boss and say, fuck off. | |
| I don't need you. | |
| Right? | |
| So, I think that should be every man's, like you should strive towards that. | |
| If your girl's working right now or your wife is working right now, I get it. | |
| Life is life. | |
| You got a family, whatever, bills got to get paid. | |
| But I think it should be every man's, you should work towards it where your significant other can quit her job whenever she wants. | |
| See, they never show that part, though. | |
| I'm just a raging misogynist, right? | |
| The raging misogynist. | |
| So that's what it is. | |
| Doing work that gratifies them at all. | |
| And at the same time, they're suspending. | |
| Well, that's just what career you've chosen. | |
| But I think that the issue. | |
| Okay, yes. | |
| But if it's the job that is making them unhappy, then maybe they should have chosen a different career path and not the structure of the career itself. | |
| But my issue with this is that not only is it claiming that women can't both be mothers and have but obviously this got to be for a serious girlfriend, bro. | |
| This ain't like for some thought. | |
| Like that, that treatment is reserved for only the best. | |
| Have jobs, which we know to be true because millions of women do that. | |
| My mother does that. | |
| You are actively doing it right now. | |
| But it also is qualifying what every single woman in this country wants without any clear evidence. | |
| I mean, there's 169 million women in this country over. | |
| How can you say that you know exactly what every woman secretly wants? | |
| Are you asking me? | |
| I didn't. | |
| That wasn't my claim that I secretly know what every single woman wants. | |
| I'm saying that if you measure up at the end of your life, what brought you more fulfillment, your career or a child, children, raising children in your family, we will discover that, and there actually have been studies people that have gone to people on their deathbeds. | |
| And the number one regret that people had was that they gave too much to their careers. | |
| And this includes men, by the way. | |
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | |
| I mean, of course, human relation is going to be valued over money and profit. | |
| But at the same time, what is that? | |
| I do agree with my argument. | |
| I did all that. | |
| You're agreeing with my arguments. | |
| Humans prefer humans over a job, but that's not just singular to women. | |
| That's everyone. | |
| And my question is, what does that even have to like? | |
| What is the goal of that? | |
| Should every woman quit working and just have a child? | |
| Well, I'm just trying to warn you that if you decide to suspend that pursuit of family because you think that you have to first climb the ladder, a lot of women make that mistake and they don't end up finding a population. | |
| But that's their right. | |
| It's free will. | |
| You definitely have a right to make sure that you're not. | |
| You don't get to say what people should and shouldn't do. | |
| I didn't come. | |
| I don't think my claim is this is what people should or should not do. | |
| I'm just simply stating that my claim is that you will be more fulfilled if you focus on trying to-You don't get to decide what other people are fulfilled by. | |
| Okay, I am making my claim here that you will, women are infinitely more fulfilled in the household and raising children than they are taking that nine-to-five job. | |
| But you have no evidence of that. | |
| In fact, you are evidence against your own claim. | |
| I'm not. | |
| This bitch is retarded. | |
| Did she not just say, I'm a NY Times bestseller, successful podcaster, but I would not trade my kids for that? | |
| Did she not just say that a second ago? | |
| This shit is retarded, bro. | |
| Evidence against my own claim. | |
| You are saying you're at work right now. | |
| I've literally said. | |
| And she said, her kids come before work. | |
| I am telling you, women cannot have it all. | |
| That is an illusion and that is an illusion that is stressing women out. | |
| And I think it is the reason why so many women are turning to popping pills, why there's been such a significant, more than 1,000% increase. | |
| But men can have it. | |
| Can be fathers and her exact claim can't be verified, but in general, women use antidepressants at twice the rate of men. | |
| I wonder why. | |
| Why is it that women use antidepressants at twice the rate of men, despite the fact that women live life on fucking easy mode? | |
| And guys, let me make this explicitly clear because I talked about this shit yesterday, but I'm going to say it anyway. | |
| Bro, women live life on fucking easy mode. | |
| Everything for them is easier. | |
| People give them better treatment. | |
| They get the halo effect. | |
| Guys want to fucking give them anything that they want for free. | |
| They're able to get into clubs. | |
| They're able to go ahead and get the benefits of affirmative action. | |
| Literally, bro. | |
| In 2025, being a female, dude, easy, Z mode, okay? | |
| Easy mode. | |
| So, because you have the choice. | |
| You can go ahead and be successful or you can find a guy that has money. | |
| If you know what you're doing, you can easily get either or. | |
| But men, we don't have that privilege. | |
| We have to fucking go out and grind. | |
| There's no way around it. | |
| The internet, the ease of communication has made life significantly easier and created far more opportunities for women while also limiting opportunities for men. | |
| Because like I told you guys before, the battle of the, like when it comes to dating and relationships, et cetera, it's a battle. | |
| It's an adversarial relationship. | |
| If women have it easy, that means men are going to have to have it hard. | |
| If men have it hard, sorry, if men have it easy, women are going to have to have it hard. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Like, there's no way that both parties are going to have it easy. | |
| Someone always has to concede, okay? | |
| That's how it goes. | |
| In every single relationship, there's always someone who cares more than the other. | |
| Now, I tell you guys that the person needs to care more is the woman. | |
| If the man cares more, you're cooked. | |
| Because if the man cares more, by definition, that assumes that she has more value than you because you're putting more effort into the relationship. | |
| Right now, I get it. | |
| In the beginning, you obviously got a court. | |
| You got to split game. | |
| I get it. | |
| But as the relationship continues forward, it needs to shift and she needs to start investing and caring more in the relationship than you do. | |
| And the reason for that is because women are emotional creatures. | |
| So since they're emotional, they need to always feel that emotional connection to you. | |
| And the only way women are going to get that emotional connection to you is if they care more than you do. | |
| If they're chasing your validation. | |
| But if you're chasing her validation, that assumes that she has higher value than you. | |
| And when women have higher value than you, guess what happens? | |
| They treat you like shit. | |
| When women treat you like shit, they start to slowly lose attraction. | |
| Once they slowly start to lose attraction, they fucking leave you. | |
| Okay? | |
| You guys get where I'm going here now? | |
| I wish it wasn't this way, guys. | |
| I thought we could be, I wish we could be nice guys and treat them like princesses, give them the world, and everything is a fucking Disney fairy tale. | |
| But unfortunately, women don't respond favorably to men that pedestalize them. | |
| They respond favorably to men that objectify them. | |
| Hey, I don't make the fucking rules. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Since they're the ones that need the emotional stimuli, the person that's adoring always has to have, gets more emotional stimuli than the person that's being adored. | |
| I'm going to say that again. | |
| When it comes to a relationship between the two parties, one has to be the adorer and then one has to be the adored. | |
| Mainstream media and the blue pill, the matrix, the retards will tell you you need to be the adorer as the man and she is the adored. | |
| Doesn't work that way. | |
| That's one of the biggest lies that we tell guys. | |
| Chase women, put them on a pedestal, give them flowers, all this chivalry bullshit. | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| That used to work before when women appreciated it and weren't whores. | |
| But now you have to move differently. | |
| She has to adore you for the relationship to work. | |
| Because since women are the ones that are always being adored, for them to respect the relationship, they have to be the adorer. | |
| Do you understand? | |
| Again, get this through your head, guys. | |
| Some of you niggas right now are with a girl that doesn't fucking respect you. | |
| So you got to get this through your fucking brain. | |
| Never rob a woman of the privilege of adoring you. | |
| Because if you rob her of that privilege, she's going to lose interest. | |
| She must care more about the relationship than you care about it. | |
| If you care about it more, it's a matter of time until she's gone. | |
| Because women are always used to being pursued and being the adored. | |
| But when you flip the script and she's adoring you, she ain't going nowhere. | |
| Anyway. | |
| Bro, I'm on three hours of sleep still cooking, baby. | |
| Women dude, I don't think you can have it all. | |
| It sounds like you're devaluing women. | |
| I think that women can do everything that you do. | |
| It sounds like women do, and men have done this historically throughout time and memorial. | |
| I think women is our topic, debate topic today. | |
| I mean, we're not women exist in a society with men. | |
| We are compared to the men. | |
| Women are trying to be both women and men. | |
| And that is why women are unhappy today is because actually, what's quite ironic about the feminist movement is that women are just trying to be people. | |
| I think women have been taught that being a woman is not enough and that you have to also aspire to be a man. | |
| And that's the irony. | |
| It's like a psychological conditioning. | |
| What feminists went out and did and said is that in order for women to have value, women need to be like men. | |
| And I'm saying that actually women and men are biologically different. | |
| There are differences in our behavior. | |
| There are differences in our desires. | |
| And I think evidence of the feminist movement, by the way, shows us that because even when women enter into the college education space, the pathways of career that we choose are different from men because we're biologically different, right? | |
| Okay, so let's say that this is true, that women truly are more fulfilled at home. | |
| Now, the average cost of raising a child a year is around $21,000 or more. | |
| So my issue is: are you saying that women should just suddenly stop working and now the onus is entirely on men? | |
| Like the society that you're pitching is not sustainable economically. | |
| It wasn't sustained economically, but it's not right now. | |
| Naima, you've been voted out by the majority. | |
| Please return to your seat. | |
| Hi. | |
| Hi, nice to meet you. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| Oh, God. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me read some chats real quick. | |
| Demetrius sends me the thing. | |
| Okay, I'll pull it up real quick. | |
| So, Demetrius said that, look at this shit, bro. | |
| Jeff Bezos got married. | |
| Of course, look at this fucking weave warrior. | |
| She's over 40, had a child from a previous relationship, not with Jeff, and still married a billionaire. | |
| He found her worthy of love. | |
| Ladies, stop letting these podcasts convince you you're expired. | |
| The right man isn't looking for perfection, he's looking for alignment. | |
| Got 12.5k likes. | |
| This right here, guys, this right here, guys. | |
| This right here guys is why so many women are fucking cooked bro. | |
| Fatality. | |
| Bro. | |
| I'm telling you bro. | |
| There's no saving these bitches man. | |
| No saving these bitches. | |
| She pulls out one bitch that married Jeff Bezos, pulls out one lucky bitch and says, Look, see, it's possible for the rest of us. | |
| Women are fucking retards, bro. | |
| Absolute fucking retards. | |
| See, and this is another thing about females, man, right? | |
| That goes to show their ridiculousness. | |
| Men operate on probabilities, women operate on possibilities. | |
| So women look at it like if it's possible, it could happen to me. | |
| We look at it like, bro, is it probable? | |
| Probably not to me. | |
| Bro, this bitch is stupid. | |
| And here's the crazy part: this is the top comment with 12.5k likes. | |
| Bro, they just like to lie to each other, man. | |
| Like, bro. | |
| There's no saving these fucking thoughts, man. | |
| Like, there's none. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| Incredible, Demetrius. | |
| Thank you for that, though. | |
| These women are stupid. | |
| All right. | |
| Akechi, O slash, thank you. | |
| My giving a motivational speech from Akechi. | |
| Appreciate that. | |
| Utmost says, Yo, Marin, these niggas simp so hard on you, bro. | |
| They're literally pay to join OSS just to be a contrary and talk shit and sound stupid. | |
| Nigga, what are you talking about? | |
| King Arthur W. Myron, the last time on your Monday, I was taking mad notes. | |
| Good stuff. | |
| Popping seven. | |
| Yo, Myron got a pussy in chat named Lobo. | |
| He's FBA. | |
| Says Candace is trying to be white because she talks proper and is conservative. | |
| He's one of those crab in a bucket blacks. | |
| We can rope. | |
| Can we roast? | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| Roast him, nigga. | |
| I don't care. | |
| Control my reproduction equal abortion. | |
| Facts. | |
| Sergeant says, America, can you watch Candace Owens' video explaining the phone call with Trump? | |
| We did it earlier. | |
| See a bunch of chats here. | |
| Dirty Harry, join OSS, bro. | |
| I see you sending in these dollar chats. | |
| You got to be an OSS if you want me to read dollar chats. | |
| Hey, Mark, can you comment on this? | |
| PBD responded. | |
| Okay, I'll take a look. | |
| Oh, I got to save. | |
| Uzbeki, why did the VAGA boards on YouTube get 4K, put them on 360? | |
| Because OSS doesn't allow me to stream in 4K yet. | |
| Frank Rennick, clandestine operations, facts. | |
| A dog isn't a man's best friend. | |
| I'm salty. | |
| They salted MW Frank. | |
| Hey, man, I got you, bro. | |
| The Shiznet on Nickstream is at seven, okay? | |
| Dirty Eric says, if I don't got seven kids, I'm not successful. | |
| Miguel says, subscribe for four bucks. | |
| Shout out to you, Miguel. | |
| So your claims that women will be happier at home. | |
| I think you're conflating, though, happiness with importance, because I get what you're saying, where a woman can write a book and have kids. | |
| All right, guys, we're at 1683 active members. | |
| Guys, let's get to 1700 tonight, bro. | |
| Let's get to 1,700 tonight, my ninjas. | |
| 17 and more to go, guys. | |
| How many of you guys? | |
| We got what? | |
| 4,500, 4,700. | |
| Bro, we got like 6,000 of you guys in here right now. | |
| No bots, by the way. | |
| Not one of these niggas that fucking bots their streamer, their views. | |
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| Everybody else out here be fucking, oh, I got 30K watching live. | |
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| Join the OSS, man. | |
| Actually, I'll do a poll as we react to this. | |
| But the kids are always going to make her happier, but I think it just means that kids are always going to be more important, not necessarily make you happier. | |
| But also, piggy packing on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have a one-income household. | |
| Right. | |
| Whether it be the mom or dad that stays home. | |
| And so I think, and you keep bringing up the 1950s, which, because it was right before the fact, I just don't know if that's the period of time that you want to go back to. | |
| I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism. | |
| Do you want to undo progress that's been done? | |
| So I'm curious as to what decade you'd be comfortable living in, especially as a black woman. | |
| Okay, so we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on. | |
| Okay, then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to? | |
| Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we understood that raising our children was fulfilling. | |
| But some women still do understand that. | |
| Right. | |
| A lot of women. | |
| And I'm one of them. | |
| And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want and for other women to be able to live the lives they want. | |
| Do you have children? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| You have a career. | |
| Yeah, duh. | |
| Of course not. | |
| This bitch is crazy, bro. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you work at? | |
| What field do you work in? | |
| I do hair. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wonderful. | |
| So I have both children and a career, as somebody pointed out. | |
| And so the fact that I'm saying that you will be infinitely more fulfilled at the end of the day by raising your children than you will be if you come home and you say, wow, I really crushed it dying somebody's hair today. | |
| What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing that? | |
| Like, that's what I'm actually trying to do. | |
| I'm trying to get to the point. | |
| You know, look at that implicit revolution. | |
| Bruh, Candace makes more money than her, has more clout than her, everything, and still telling her, like, bro, kids are better. | |
| Meanwhile, this bitch is over here blow-drying Asian whores hair, thinking like, oh, I want to be sick. | |
| Guys, look. | |
| Frank, what are you doing, nigga? | |
| Bro, scratching the fuck out that thing. | |
| Okay, so here's the real reality, okay, guys, right? | |
| Here's the elephant in the room. | |
| Here's the real elephant in the room. | |
| And I've talked about this in detail, Rolo Tomasi. | |
| And by the way, if you're watching on YouTube, guys, vote for me if you're in the OSS or not. | |
| Okay? | |
| I'm watching for a while, bro. | |
| Finally a member of the OSS, though. | |
| Looking forward to getting some OSS merch. | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| Merch drop July 4th, guys. | |
| Gonna give you guys discounts for the OSS only. | |
| We'll drop the link for you guys there. | |
| So here's the reality, right? | |
| The reason why women fight so hard for feminism, okay? | |
| This is the real reason. | |
| It's not that they're fighting to be independent. | |
| Let me make that explicitly fucking clear for you guys. | |
| Okay? | |
| These feminists, girls like here with this fucking short hair and the other bimbos that come in and talk shit, they're not fighting to be independent. | |
| They're fighting to be independent of lower status men. | |
| And that is the key fucking distinction that you guys need to understand. | |
| Women would rather be by themselves and work a fucking terrible job than be with a guy that's their equal or a loser. | |
| That's what feminism is really about. | |
| It's so that they can go ahead and sustain themselves for as long as they can until they find their dream guy. | |
| That's the real reason why women fight for this freedom that they want. | |
| It's not freedom from men of higher status that they find attractive. | |
| It's freedom from lower status men. | |
| Now, I know some of you guys are like, Myron, what the fuck? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Let me explain. | |
| Women view most men as pesky fucking mosquitoes. | |
| All right? | |
| I want you niggas to get that through your head. | |
| All right? | |
| Because once you understand this, everything makes sense. | |
| Women view roughly 80 to 90% of men as pesky fucking mosquitoes. | |
| And what I mean by this is, they don't think you're worth talking to. | |
| They don't think you're worth dating. | |
| They don't think they definitely don't think you're worth fucking. | |
| They wouldn't look twice your way. | |
| They don't care for a majority of men. | |
| And here's another dirty little secret for you guys: a majority of women feel as though they are better than a majority of men. | |
| And I'll take it a step further. | |
| Not only do they see themselves as better than the majority of men, they don't respect a majority of men. | |
| Now, they'll never fucking say this for obvious reasons. | |
| I'll fix that angle. | |
| They never say that for obvious reasons because, like we said before, women don't say what's really on their mind. | |
| They don't mean what they say or say what they mean. | |
| But their behaviors show this. | |
| You go up to a girl and you're trying to build attraction. | |
| You got to get her attention, do all this extra shit. | |
| Why do you think you have to work so hard to get a number? | |
| Or why do you think you have to memorize all these can openers to figure out how to build attraction with women? | |
| Did you guys ever wonder why? | |
| Like, I want you guys to think about it. | |
| Like, why is game even a thing? | |
| Why do men have to learn how to talk to women? | |
| Why do men have to learn all these fucking techniques to be able to get girls to go on dates? | |
| I'll tell you why. | |
| Because women don't give a fuck about a majority of men. | |
| Cloud comb punch. | |
| And for me to really explain this, they view most of you niggas as annoying, pesky fucking mosquitoes. | |
| Okay? | |
| You know what people do with mosquitoes? | |
| They kill them. | |
| They hit them with the fucking sandal. | |
| Get out of here. | |
| You're annoying. | |
| That's how most women view most men. | |
| So, since most women view most men in that way, this is why a majority of women overwhelmingly are okay with working, getting a career, and deciding to stay single instead of being in a relationship unless it's with their dream guy. | |
| Why do you guys think so many fucking women are insufferable and annoying and are entitled? | |
| Because they don't have to settle anymore. | |
| Since they don't have to settle anymore and they make their own money, it's a double whammy. | |
| Number one, they already don't like a majority of men. | |
| Number two, they make their own money. | |
| Number three, by making their own money and not liking a majority of men, guess what happens? | |
| Magically, standards go up. | |
| Delusion goes up. | |
| Entitlement goes up. | |
| Ta-da! | |
| Then we end up with the fucking crazy, shitty sexual marketplace we got right now. | |
| That is the ugly truth why women fight so hard for their freedom, why they fight for feminism. | |
| Bro, most women don't even vote. | |
| Did you guys know that? | |
| Most women don't vote, but they fucking fight saying we should have the right to vote. | |
| These bitches don't even utilize half the rights they fight for. | |
| Women should be able to be sluts if they want. | |
| Why are you not a slut? | |
| Well, I just want them to be free. | |
| It's not that they care about having rights, it's that they care about their rights being taken away. | |
| Do you understand the difference, chat? | |
| Women want to reserve the right to behave like a man and do all the things that men do without the responsibilities of what men do. | |
| Are you guys getting it now? | |
| They want to be able to eat their cake and have it too. | |
| They want to be able to get both sides. | |
| They want to burn the candle from both ends. | |
| I can be a lady, but I can also behave like a man and deal with the consequences of neither. | |
| That is what feminism is about. | |
| Ridding themselves of lower status, unattractive men because they don't need to deal with them anymore. | |
| Because before, women had to go ahead and get with the average or ugly guy to get a family and be taken care of. | |
| Now they don't have to do that. | |
| So they've outsourced it. | |
| We don't need this nigga no more. | |
| So what's left? | |
| I want the hot guy that's a Chad. | |
| And that's why we have the sexual marketplace we have now, Chad. | |
| Is that no one is mentioning children? | |
| No, see, no one's angry when you mention children. | |
| I get angry, I guess, when you mention that someone should have a children or you're trying to impose a lifestyle on people that you want to live, which I think is kind of funny because as someone who's anti-feminism, you practice it more than most women do. | |
| I mean, every time you get on your podcast, every time you collect a check, you're practicing feminism. | |
| Okay, that's what you think. | |
| No, that's what it is. | |
| Because without feminism, you wouldn't be able to exist. | |
| Yeah, people keep saying, I hate when people say that. | |
| But this is just shows that you haven't done the research to even understand where the fact is. | |
| Or you don't know history, which was discoverable. | |
| That's what I'm saying about you, because it means that you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the CIA funded the feminist movement. | |
| And one of them, in case you guys were wondering, one of the people. | |
| Every single time, man. | |
| For all of your hatred for the people who are. | |
| I'm so confused. | |
| So, my question is: is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened? | |
| Men wanted women to go into the workforce. | |
| The government, which had a lot of men, it was being occurred and we had to go to factories. | |
| And then when we left the factories, they forced us back into the homes. | |
| That's not what I'm saying at all. | |
| So let me tell you what I'm saying, and then you can respond to it. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Gloria Steinem is considered to be a feminist icon, right? | |
| Because the leader of the most recent feminist revolution. | |
| She led these protests. | |
| She also had a bunch of music festivals. | |
| She got students involved. | |
| It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA. | |
| Okay. | |
| The CIA, being the male-dominated CIA of the 50s and the 60s, funded those movements. | |
| So what do you think was the explicit aim? | |
| Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be more free that they wanted to encourage women to enter? | |
| Well, I have to be honest with you, I couldn't speak on behalf of the government. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| And what their intention. | |
| But I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history. | |
| And I think it's pretty important if you're going to sit across from me and say, I don't know history that you learn a piece of history and then question. | |
| You keep bringing up men. | |
| And I think it's funny because we should talk about men more. | |
| Like you brought up suicide, they're four times more likely to kill themselves, which is why I do. | |
| And while women, we're twice as more often on antidepressants, but that's because we go out and do what we need to do to keep coping. | |
| Because we're not happy. | |
| And we need to focus on men and the patriarchy because it's actually oppressed them just as much as this chick. | |
| The patriarchy. | |
| Women now emotionally, right? | |
| Because when we're kids, we you know, I always laugh when women say the stupid shit about the patriarchy. | |
| Bro, the patriarchy allows you to even complain about the patriarchy. | |
| Like these women are so dumb. | |
| Falcon punch that they don't understand that the fact that they're able to even point at and complain about the patriarchy shows that the patriarchy works because it allows them to live a significantly easier life. | |
| The patriarchy benefits women far more than it benefits men. | |
| And that's what these women don't understand. | |
| Our parents teach us how to cross the street. | |
| Look both ways so you can get the other side unharmed. | |
| When a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using men and boys here because they're the ones suffering. | |
| Women are too, but emotionally. | |
| When they come across a feeling they haven't felt before, we have to teach them how to get to the other side and cope with it. | |
| Otherwise, they stay where they are. | |
| That anger and resentment builds. | |
| That's the feeling they become most comfortable with. | |
| That's the feeling they go to first in most situations. | |
| All right. | |
| So we need to stop telling our boys they don't cry because they do. | |
| They just do it alone and then they become even more alone. | |
| All right. | |
| Yeah, she made no good points there. | |
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| Oh, no. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Cancer is here. | |
| Oh, I'm born. | |
| Jasmine, nice to meet you. | |
| Okay, so you say that women are more fulfilled at home with kids than going out into the workforce or getting educated, but that just wow. | |
| Did she get like what the fuck is going on? | |
| Really doesn't bear out when you look at the stats. | |
| When you look at how working mothers are way less likely to be in poverty, maternal education is the number one predictor of childhood outcomes. | |
| Better school. | |
| Maternal education does improve a child's cognitive development and can help with language and motor skills too. | |
| Of course. | |
| Getting higher. | |
| Okay, so that means that the woman needs to stay home. | |
| What the fuck are you talking about, Jasmine? | |
| Higher incomes in the future, fewer behavioral problems, better mental health. | |
| So it's weird to me with, and college-educated women are least likely to get divorced. | |
| And they're the only women, the top 10% of women are the only women who's. | |
| Anything that means a woman should stay home and fucking raise the, what's it called? | |
| Teach the kid herself. | |
| Marriage rates are going up. | |
| So they're getting married, they're staying married, and their kids are doing better. | |
| When you look at stay-at-home mothers, you see that they're more likely to report being depressed. | |
| They're more likely to report. | |
| Three Digglers with a big $100 super chat says, Myron, why is this bitch so fucking large? | |
| Bro, she gained weight, right, chat? | |
| Chat, she gained weight, didn't she? | |
| Something happened. | |
| I don't know what the fuck. | |
| I don't know if she got fatter or what, but yeah. | |
| Having anxiety and anger and all these types of things. | |
| So how can she has a crazy lisp? | |
| I don't know what the fuck is going on. | |
| When you say that, seems like a woman, if you want to get married and have kids, you should go to college and have a career. | |
| So it sounds to me like we are looking at totally different statistics because everything that you said, I've actually read the exact opposite. | |
| I'm glad we're on a fact check show with you. | |
| Right, exactly. | |
| Oh, it's so exciting. | |
| That's going to be amazing. | |
| Okay, because I know, like I said, I think what we're talking about is that there was this widespread report on female happiness. | |
| And I know that it was formally debunked. | |
| It was not what I'm talking about. | |
| Pew Research, University of California. | |
| In fact, working mothers today spend more time with their children than women did in the 1960s that were at home. | |
| Okay, both women that... | |
| How the fuck would you even measure that? | |
| I have to tell you, women that are at home are obviously spending more time with their children than the people who are at work. | |
| And their children are not faring off any better, and they're faring off worse. | |
| How are you measuring their children off worse? | |
| Yeah. | |
| How likely? | |
| What the? | |
| How the fuck are you? | |
| Yeah. | |
| We have more degenerates now than ever before and more retards and what? | |
| And more hoes. | |
| Like, what are you talking about? | |
| Like, the kids are faring off better now. | |
| What? | |
| They are to higher incomes, better scores, fewer health problems, fewer behavioral issues, and better mental health. | |
| So just to get back to the fewer health problems. | |
| We got more fat people now than ever before. | |
| Bro, I swear, this Jasmine chick be pulling data out of her ass, bro. | |
| Like, that's why, like, people like her, debating people like her are annoying because they're not there to argue in good faith. | |
| Like, what is she talking about? | |
| Oh, yeah, they have better health, better, blah, blah. | |
| Bro, we have more fat people now than ever before. | |
| What the fuck are you talking about? | |
| Like, physical education used to be a thing in school back in the day. | |
| Now it's not. | |
| The claim that I'm making here is that it is obvious that women who have children are going to be more fulfilled. | |
| How is that obvious? | |
| Because you said. | |
| No, it's not obvious because I said so. | |
| It's because when you look at all the statistics in terms of women who are choosing not to have families, they are, as the person who just sat here before you mentioned, they are suffering from more depression. | |
| They're suffering from more anxiety. | |
| And that's not true. | |
| Okay, it is true. | |
| It is actually true that women who are choosing their careers overstarting families are fine. | |
| All right, recent data on this topic is scarce, but CDC data shows that from 2015 to 2018, women were more than twice as likely to take antidepressant men and antidepressants use was more common among those with college degrees. | |
| Ooh. | |
| Now, again, this is a very hard thing to measure because, like, how would you quantify that and actually be able to run a study to properly show this? | |
| But, I mean, bro, you could use antidepressant data, but dude, just take a look around. | |
| Like, use some common sense. | |
| Women don't like to be alone. | |
| They're social creatures. | |
| So you have to use a little bit of common sense and look around and be like, oh, you know what? | |
| Maybe it probably isn't in women's best interest to be fucking thoughts. | |
| You know? | |
| It's very simple. | |
| Aries says, the think-you dating situation in the U.S. will get so bad that we'll be forced to outlaw social media. | |
| I think that would be an easy solution. | |
| Yeah, it'll never happen, though. | |
| Kids are there to keep women busy. | |
| Women without children have infinite time to destroy society. | |
| Now, Western culture has to import children and grapes. | |
| These children, these childless women are more vulnerable. | |
| Yeah, yeah, that's true. | |
| A bored woman is a stupid woman, bro. | |
| I'll tell you that. | |
| You're right. | |
| Kids help them with staying fucking preoccupied. | |
| They have more time to be 304s. | |
| Anxiety-inducing medicines and depression because they suspend. | |
| Oh, shout out to Oskelo Primo. | |
| He says, you're the man. | |
| Even Seminole and McCusky's cultures are suffering from this feminist BS. | |
| Continue to brave and many, continue to be brave and many blessings. | |
| Thank you so much, SCLO Primo. | |
| Yo, Primo, I hope you're in OSS, bro. | |
| I appreciate the 50 bucks, but I hope you're in OSS, bro. | |
| Join for four bucks, man. | |
| Thank you so much for the support. | |
| Bended that timeframe where women really should be looking to find a partner and to start a family because they were instead pursuing their careers. | |
| Why are they? | |
| It has been, it is a dishonest, it is totally a dishonest narrative that men and women want the same things out of life. | |
| We don't. | |
| We absolutely do not want the same things out of life. | |
| In fact, we don't even measure. | |
| We don't even measure success the same. | |
| Men and women don't even measure success the same. | |
| They try to, right? | |
| They try to make it like, oh, yeah, woman's success is the money she makes, but we all know that's cap. | |
| So tell me how the women who are working and getting educated, why are they faring off better in all of these? | |
| I am telling you that I do not believe they are faring off better in all these matters. | |
| And wait, I do not believe that. | |
| Because of what? | |
| I am telling you that we are looking at totally opposite statistics. | |
| Like, so you're sitting here telling me that the statistics show that women who are working are producing better children. | |
| But I am saying that women that grow up in a two-family home where the mother stays at home are faring off better than the children who are being raised in an environment where the women are working. | |
| Where both of the parents are working away from the home. | |
| I do get to work from home. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| That's the ivy. | |
| I've watched you talk about all the nannies you hire and it's so high. | |
| It's hard to find a baby. | |
| I spoke about how difficult it was to find a babysitter who knew how to cook a meal. | |
| And that's because you got to meet a babysitter. | |
| You're already, you could retire right now. | |
| People respond to you when they're speaking. | |
| So annoying, bro. | |
| This chick is so insufferable, chat. | |
| Want to. | |
| Just respond to you. | |
| Candace is getting a taste of what it's like to talk to this girl, bro. | |
| I've debated this chick like three or four times. | |
| She's so annoying, dude. | |
| No, you don't want to. | |
| You want to be working, which is great. | |
| You're telling me what I want now and then accusing me. | |
| And the crazy part is, like, I don't even know if this Jasmine chick has her own channel or anything, but bro, nobody watches her. | |
| Like, she literally has to go on other platforms because no one gives a fuck about her opinions. | |
| Like, they just want to see her get fucked because she's on OnlyFans being a whore, literally doing porn. | |
| Like, nobody gives a shit about her opinions, which is like the funny part. | |
| Because if you guys like, look at her channel, she gets like no fucking views at all. | |
| Does she even have a YouTube channel? | |
| What's this chick's name? | |
| Jasmine something, Jafar, some bullshit like that. | |
| Let me look, bro. | |
| I don't even know. | |
| So look, her channel has 17K? | |
| Last time she posted was three weeks ago, 3K views. | |
| Bro. | |
| See, bro, this is why women suck at YouTube. | |
| Chat, you see this? | |
| And here's the thing. | |
| I guarantee you, if we look at her IG, she's going to have like a million subscribers on Instagram or some shit. | |
| Or sorry, like a million followers on Instagram. | |
| But bitches never get views on YouTube, bro. | |
| Like this tells you guys what you really need to know. | |
| That's why I tell you guys, YouTube is the master race when it comes to social media, bro. | |
| Or a video platform. | |
| Like it could be YouTube, Twitch, whatever, but bro, nobody watches this bitch. | |
| Nobody watches like thoughts in general. | |
| Nobody cares. | |
| 17K, last time she posted was two weeks ago and it was a short. | |
| Like, bruh. | |
| Or yeah. | |
| 909 to bro who did she even post this today Like, dude. | |
| Yeah, she definitely gained some weight. | |
| So yeah, bro, like, nobody watches. | |
| I'm telling y'all, man, nobody watches these fucking thoughts. | |
| They follow them on Instagram, whack off, and look at their OnlyFans. | |
| But this is why I tell you guys all the time, low, like, female creators are literally bottom of the barrel. | |
| They suck. | |
| And there's the proof. | |
| Telling you. | |
| Wait, are you, you don't want to work? | |
| Can you just let me finish? | |
| Because you've said so many words that you just, what you're trying to do here, like your argument style is I'm going to say so much and not let her get awarded and then walk away and feel like I've won. | |
| We're not having a conversation because you've not letting me respond to you for one of your points. | |
| Okay. | |
| What I am saying to you, first to answer what you just said, which was a lie, what I spoke to about on the weekends is that it's been increasingly difficult to find a 25-year-old who even knows how to do it. | |
| This is why, guys, most big YouTubers and most, like, you know, the best podcasts, it's run by men, bro. | |
| It's run by men. | |
| Nobody doesn't, nobody wants to listen to thoughts talk. | |
| How to make box macaroni and cheese, right? | |
| And that's crazy. | |
| And that is in large part due to feminism. | |
| Women don't even focus. | |
| Women don't even focus. | |
| Like there's this, there's this. | |
| There's this idea that women shouldn't be cooking. | |
| Like there's something fundamentally wrong with women even learning how to cook. | |
| Are you spending as much time with your children as you possibly can? | |
| Because that's the way to get the most fulfillment. | |
| No, and that's what I'm trying to say. | |
| I am speaking to you and stop. | |
| Okay, could you please let somebody get in? | |
| I did. | |
| Why do you finish not? | |
| You actually have not let anybody finish. | |
| Like I said, it's no one benefits when you're just speaking over me and not allowing me to respond. | |
| All you're proving is that you have an attitude and you think you need feminism, but you're not. | |
| See, that's what I'm saying. | |
| You just have an attitude and it's not, it's not trying to, it's performing. | |
| I'm actually my point. | |
| I will be quiet if you ask my point. | |
| Does anybody actually feel here that I am being allowed to address any of her points when she just gets running at me? | |
| Jasmine is so fucking annoying, dude. | |
| Comfort zone, Marin, get that Jasmine chick got her lips done. | |
| Is that why she sounds retarded? | |
| Okay, that makes sense. | |
| Earl Stevens, the thing the dating situation in the U.S. will get so bad that, oh, no, I read that one before. | |
| I see pictures of movie strips of what kids look like back in the day, and I just have to say that shit goes wrong in society is way more. | |
| Comfort zone, hey, Marin, got her face done. | |
| Look at the bones in her upper lips. | |
| Either she got her face done or she was in a boxing match and now healing. | |
| My name wants to smash the Asian girl in jeans. | |
| What the fuck, nigga? | |
| Yeah, I know Jasmine chicks and OnlyFans girl, guys. | |
| She's been on the show before. | |
| She's annoying as hell. | |
| But what I'm explaining to you guys is that nobody watches her shit. | |
| That's why I showed y'all her YouTube channel. | |
| Like, it gets no fucking views because nobody cares about what OnlyFans girls got to say. | |
| Like, I'm literally. | |
| Because here's the thing. | |
| She's educated. | |
| She's not a retard. | |
| But since she went ahead and decided to objectify herself, and this is the other thing, too, that women need to really understand, right? | |
| So for all the ladies that are watching this shit, right? | |
| Because there's some smart women out there that watch my shit. | |
| Let me tell you guys something. | |
| If you decide to go into sex work, whether it's OnlyFans or objectifying yourself on Instagram or whatever for some money, congratulations. | |
| You played yourself because now no one is ever going to take you seriously. | |
| This girl, Jasmine, right? | |
| Despite the fact that she's a very annoying debater, she's actually not a retard. | |
| Okay? | |
| She's actually fairly competent to a degree. | |
| But the problem is that since she's a sex worker and she literally has sex on camera, like on her Twitter or some shit, I remember we were doing a show and like niggas were showing her Twitter. | |
| I was like, what the fuck? | |
| Like, no one takes her serious now. | |
| Like, no one cares what she's got to say. | |
| She can't build a real platform. | |
| No one gives a fuck about her argument. | |
| So what she has to do is she has to go on these other podcasts where they actually have a real audience and kind of show herself. | |
| But the problem is that she's not able to build up her own platform because no one takes her seriously because she shot herself in the foot by sexualizing herself. | |
| Does that make sense, chat? | |
| You can't be an intellectual and also be a slut. | |
| It's one or the other. | |
| If you're going to be a slut, niggas are not going to take you seriously anymore. | |
| Because you build your audience by being a slut. | |
| Men are not going to respect you. | |
| And no one's going to take you seriously. | |
| Finito, really bad business model, but she doesn't care. | |
| She gets to be a whore on the internet. | |
| But that's what it is, chat. | |
| Trying to answer your first point of you saying that I don't stay at home. | |
| Yeah, fair point. | |
| Fair point. | |
| Obviously, I get that you're all anti-Candice and pro-feminist, but also it's not productive if you're not actually. | |
| Okay, address the point. | |
| You spend more time saying that I'm not addressing, that you don't have a chance to talk. | |
| I mean, the whole time you could have addressed the point. | |
| Three Digglers, $100 Super Chat. | |
| Thank you, brother. | |
| Said it once. | |
| I'll say it again. | |
| Her and the bitch Destiny fucked are the heavyweight champions of never shutting the fuck up. | |
| Well, Destiny is far better than her. | |
| Speaking of which, I might do something with Destiny Pause. | |
| We might have a debate or something like that up at the Charlie Kirk event. | |
| I think I'm going to be up there in Tampa when Charlie Kirk has his TP USA event up there. | |
| So I might be up there with my guy, Sean Kelly. | |
| So stay tuned for that, guys. | |
| Might do something up there with Destiny. | |
| As you guys know, me and Destiny disagree on everything. | |
| But I get along with Destiny. | |
| I like Destiny. | |
| I don't have a problem with him. | |
| I'm probably the only conservative that he gets along with now at this point. | |
| I think he hates everybody on the right. | |
| Probably the only one he gets along with. | |
| So, you know, we disagree literally on everything politically, everything socially, but there's a mutual respect there. | |
| So shout out to Destiny, man. | |
| You know, it sucks what he's going through. | |
| You know, we know this fucking Pixie girl is a fucking clout chasing whore. | |
| So I stand by him. | |
| I think he's innocent. | |
| I think she just was being a fucking thought. | |
| And, you know, bro, these, these, I'm telling you, man, these OF Twitch streamer bitches, bro, they fuck anybody to get some clout, bro. | |
| And she just doesn't like what ended up happening. | |
| She didn't get enough clout. | |
| She tried to extort him for money and shit after. | |
| So fuck that bitch. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Hopefully everyone is getting to the gym. | |
| I got two cracked ribs and still get it in. | |
| Oh, slash side die. | |
| Shout out to you, Kachi. | |
| So yeah, we'll see what happens with that with Destiny. | |
| But I think I'll probably see him later on this month. | |
| I think the event is in like two weeks or some shit. | |
| So we'll see what happens. | |
| Ozzy asked, why do you say things will never change when all it takes is men coming together on one common cause? | |
| If that happened, even the government wouldn't be able to do anything about it, let alone women. | |
| Yeah, that's the problem, bro. | |
| Ozzy, you got to understand, dude, guys that think like us are far and few between. | |
| If you don't believe me, look at my last show where I sat at the table. | |
| You saw how many simps walked up? | |
| Bro, most guys are sleepwalking. | |
| Do you guys get it? | |
| Most guys are sleepwalking, chat. | |
| Sleepwalking through life. | |
| Simps. | |
| Point. | |
| I could have talked. | |
| Go for it. | |
| I just want you to know that you're not coming across as somebody who wants to. | |
| Yeah, I know some of you guys don't like Destiny. | |
| Cool. | |
| Or you don't agree with his lifestyle. | |
| But like I said before, we can have a mutual response. | |
| Well, I have a mutual respect for him from a debate adversarial perspective. | |
| I don't have a problem with the guy personally or professionally. | |
| And honestly, bro, seeing how people like ABBA turned on him, I was like, damn, bro. | |
| But we all know Abba's a snake, bitch-ass nigga. | |
| Like, he literally kicked Destiny when he was down at his worst. | |
| He kicked him. | |
| And the funny part is like, Destiny brought ABBA's bitch ass on on so many streams and like helped him get like a larger audience. | |
| And that's how he repaids him. | |
| That shit's crazy to me, bro. | |
| Crazy to me. | |
| That's like me like making a video attacking like someone that I used to fuck with and do content with all the time. | |
| Like that's like me kicking Sneeko when he's down and talking shit about him. | |
| Like, bro, I would never do that shit. | |
| Even if he did some fuck shit, I'll call him behind the scenes and call him and be like, bro, you know, whatever. | |
| But I wouldn't make a video like publicly shitting on them for what? | |
| For views? | |
| So, I don't know, man. | |
| Look, you don't have to like Destiny, but Abba's a bitch for that. | |
| Abba's a bitch for that, bro. | |
| Real talk, man. | |
| Watch the hacks. | |
| Abba has zero fucking integrity, bitch ass. | |
| They go, oh, I have a duty to my audience. | |
| Shut the fuck up, nigga. | |
| You would have never made that video if it wasn't for the AdSense. | |
| Fucking one of the fakest moral grandstanding dickheads on YouTube. | |
| Biggest, like these dudes are the biggest fucking cappers, man. | |
| They try to make it like there's like some, you know, you know, these, these moral police. | |
| Like, bro, get the fuck up out of here, nigga. | |
| Like, you literally get pegged. | |
| You are a sodomite, dude. | |
| You're literally a fucking sodomite. | |
| Shut the fuck up, man. | |
| Actually, have a conversation. | |
| So to get back to the claim, because I don't even know where you're at. | |
| You're not talking. | |
| You're saying that I said stuff in my life. | |
| I'll go wherever you wanted. | |
| I never said it. | |
| I'll go wherever. | |
| Do you want to start with me working at home? | |
| Because I work at home. | |
| You just said something about me. | |
| You travel all around the world. | |
| Okay. | |
| You do speeches, and I love that. | |
| I love how ambitious you are. | |
| That's a really great trait. | |
| And if you truly said that you would be more fulfilled. | |
| Now, one thing you do find is women, they don't want to stay at home when you pull them. | |
| They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have. | |
| And I think we should all advocate for that. | |
| It's not one or the other. | |
| But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your time doing that. | |
| We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, like that wasn't a W whatsoever. | |
| Because here's the thing, like I said before, you need people like Candace that have it all to come back and tell women like this isn't real. | |
| Right? | |
| So because here's the thing with this Jasmine bitch. | |
| Like Jasmine thinks that she ate, but she's really stupid, right? | |
| I think it's very powerful for someone like Candace Owens, who literally all these bitches want to be, to include Jasmine, by the way, FYI, just so you guys know. | |
| Jasmine, you can tell from the way that she attacked Candace, she's very jealous because Candace used her brain and doesn't have to show her tits or ass to get views, right? | |
| She's built an enormous following off of her brain and now selling her body. | |
| If you guys noticed with Candice, she always dressed very modestly, something I really like and respect. | |
| And people watch her because of what she says, not how she dresses. | |
| So someone like Candice Owens, who is where a lot of these women want to be, by the way, is coming out and saying, look, this ain't it. | |
| Though I might be a representation where I have it all, this is not feasible for most of you. | |
| And that's very important and it's powerful to come from her. | |
| So to the contrary of what Jasmine Jafar is trying to say here, why don't you just leave the public eye and be with your kid? | |
| No. | |
| Her voice is needed because she's a successful woman who's doing what a lot of you bitches wish you could do and telling you this isn't real. | |
| And that's really fucking important. | |
| Just because someone was able to do something and it's possible doesn't mean it's probable. | |
| The majority of you bitches are too stupid, not interesting enough or charismatic to be able to run a YouTube channel and talk to a large audience of people and cover stories and use your brain instead of using your tits. | |
| Most women can't do that shit. | |
| So Candace has been able to do it. | |
| And instead of her saying, oh yeah, you could do it too, she's giving it real. | |
| Most of you bitches are retarded. | |
| She's being nice about it. | |
| So let me go ahead and be all the way blunt about it because some niggas don't understand. | |
| Most of you bitches are stupid. | |
| Most of you bitches aren't interesting. | |
| Most of you don't have interesting stories to tell. | |
| Most of you can't research anything. | |
| Most of you have no hobbies, no interesting characteristics that you can tell a story about, or no life experience where people can draw from. | |
| That's the truth about most of you fucking women. | |
| Most of you guys can't hold anyone's attention outside of 10 seconds. | |
| That's why most female creators are on Instagram or on TikTok. | |
| That's their biggest platforms. | |
| Or if they are on YouTube, they're doing shorts. | |
| Very few women can actually maintain an audience and get people to listen to what they're saying versus looking at them and focusing on that. | |
| Very few. | |
| I can think of maybe five women that can do that shit. | |
| So since most of you bitches are retarded and not interesting and probably don't have a career in social media, even though a lot of you bitches want to be influencers, Candace is keeping it real, saying, look, most of you are not going to be able to do this, let alone have a regular career and be able to have it all. | |
| I'm an anomaly. | |
| And this isn't feasible for most of you. | |
| I think that's powerful because we know, there was a recent poll done on young people, that most young people want to be influencers. | |
| That's the number one thing that people want to be. | |
| So you need voices on the female side because women tend to be fucking delusional. | |
| You need people on the female side to say, look, get your kids and family because I have it all. | |
| I got the career. | |
| And this fulfills me more. | |
| So I would argue, despite what Jasmine is trying to say, saying, why don't you just get out the public eye and be more with your kids? | |
| No. | |
| Her going out there and saying, look, my kids matter more than everything else that I've built. | |
| That's powerful. | |
| Because bitches want to be like her. | |
| So she could tell them, look, this ain't all it's cracked up to be. | |
| Look at my accolades. | |
| New York Times bestseller, one of the biggest YouTubers, millions of subscribers, millions of views. | |
| People know me everywhere. | |
| I'm a worldwide name. | |
| I could do book tours. | |
| Guess what? | |
| My family is still more important. | |
| So Jasmine actually thinks that she got like a mic drop moment. | |
| No, she didn't at all. | |
| Because despite what Jasmine is trying to say and undermining Candace, she wishes she could be Candace with a fraction of the fucking audience and the ability to be an intellectual and be taken seriously. | |
| But guess what? | |
| Since she sold her butthole, she sold her fucking soul. | |
| And that's what happens once you become a sex worker on the internet. | |
| No one values what you have to say anymore. | |
| I'm a farmer lawyer and nobody cares. | |
| Turn around and show that ass, bitch. | |
| You wish you could do what Candice is doing. | |
| And not only is she doing what you're doing, she has the audience that you wish you had, and she has a family. | |
| And she's telling your dumbass, even though you're less successful, it ain't it, bitch. | |
| So I would argue Candace absolutely cooked her. | |
| But the stupid bitches that don't understand how the world works are going to say, oh my God, yeah, Jasmine ate. | |
| No, she didn't at all. | |
| No, she didn't at all. | |
| Candace has all the shit that Jasmine wishes she has. | |
| And clearly, you can see that she had an agenda. | |
| The fuck up out of here, man. | |
| Incredible. | |
| And look, all the bitches are cheering. | |
| Yeah, look, look, look at this shit, bro. | |
| Look, look, look. | |
| The fucking, like the fucking hyenas. | |
| Like, they think that she actually ate and she didn't at all. | |
| Fulfilled doing this and spend all your time doing that. | |
| We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, because she's got to save other bitches from being stupid like you and selling their butthole on the internet. | |
| What the fuck are you talking about? | |
| For those of you guys that remember, right? | |
| When Candice and Gamma on the show, and we had a couple girls on that did OnlyFans or whatever, and Candace was actually like sitting there talking to them, right? | |
| And Candace has talked to a lot of women and changed their perspective, got them to stop being whores, got them to stop being thoughts, got them to stop trying to, you know, sell their butthole on the internet, whatever. | |
| You need people like Candace so that she can get through to women so they don't become like you, fucking Jasmine. | |
| Fatality. | |
| So what the fuck are you talking about? | |
| You're cooked. | |
| You're cooked. | |
| I know you brag about how much money you make online and shit like that, but at the end of the day, you're fucking cooked. | |
| Okay? | |
| So Candace is here to let the other women know: look, if you go down this road like Jasmine and become a thought, you will never be taken seriously. | |
| And it's going to follow you for the rest of your fucking life. | |
| So no, I would argue she's needed because she's one of the few voices of reason in the conservative space that's a female that could talk to the women and tell them not to go down the dangerous road of fucking pornography. | |
| Because I'll tell you this, there's thousands of hoes like Jasmine all over the internet selling their butthole for fucking $3.99 a month. | |
| But there's not many women like Candace Owens telling the women to not do that shit. | |
| And like I told you guys before, these women ain't going to listen to me. | |
| Right? | |
| They're not going to listen to me. | |
| But they will probably listen to someone like Candace. | |
| So I do think that's a needed voice. | |
| And look, they think that she won. | |
| Look at how they think that she won. | |
| She didn't win at all. | |
| So fucking embarrassing that like all these girls are clapping for this fucking used up thought. | |
| Meanwhile, you got someone here that did it the right way, used their brain and built up an audience, and then they're clapping for this fucking hoe, enabling the bad behavior. | |
| See how the fucking, like, this is like the female hive mind, right? | |
| Enabling each other's bad fucking behavior. | |
| Hey, before we go any further, we want. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Who's this fucking gay Enrique, man? | |
| Get the fuck up out of here, you fatigue man. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| We live under a matriarchy, not a patriarchy. | |
| All right, that's an interesting perspective. | |
| I would say that we live under a patriarchy, but it is a gynocentrized patriarchy. | |
| Like, in other words, I see what she's trying. | |
| I think, I mean, I want to hear her position. | |
| But I would say it's a patriarchy because obviously men still have the monopoly of force, but that monopoly of force isn't used to institute order or oppression towards women. | |
| Rather, it's designed to protect female superiority. | |
| So I think we still live in a patriarchy, but it's a gynocentrized patriarchy that is men have the use of force monopoly, but the women dictate how that force is utilized. | |
| Does that make sense, Chad? | |
| So that's my position. | |
| But let's see what hers is. | |
| mean, she might just constitute that as a matriarchy, but yeah, let's see here. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| It's a pleasure to meet you. | |
| I'm Princella the Queenmaker. | |
| I love that. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| This fucking girl. | |
| Bro, yo, Candace got all the retarded bitches on her show. | |
| I think this girl been on our show before, too. | |
| She's also a retard. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| So you say we live in a matriarchy. | |
| Right. | |
| Can you give me the definition of patriarchy? | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, the patriarchy is the idea that the system, our system in America is being run by men and that women are having to exist under a system that immediately disadvantages them because men are behind it. | |
| And I disagree with that pointedly. | |
| I think actually we're living in a society where people are being very much influenced socially and politically by women. | |
| Okay. | |
| So the denote. | |
| All right. | |
| So we have the same position. | |
| So she calls it a matriarchy. | |
| All right. | |
| I still call it a patriarchy because the men have the dominance of force, but that force is being utilized to push female agendas. | |
| But yeah, she's defining it differently. | |
| But it's the same shit. | |
| Basically, a gynocentric social order is what it is. | |
| Tate of dipping. | |
| But I see what she's saying. | |
| Obviously, saying we don't live under a, we live under a matriarchy, saying that we live, that's triggering. | |
| So obviously the women here are going to get mad. | |
| So that's a, from a social, I'm putting my social media influencer hat on, like, yes, that is more triggering. | |
| So that's going to get more bites. | |
| Because you got, I mean, granted, you got a bunch of feminists there. | |
| So if you say, oh, we live under a matriarchy, they're going to lose their minds because the whole concept of feminism is premised under being under a patriarchy. | |
| So I see what she did there. | |
| She made it say, we actually live under a matriarchy to piss off the feminists that are there because the whole feminist identity was created to fight the patriarchy. | |
| Does that make sense, guys? | |
| So by her saying, look, we live in a matriarchy, she's basically saying all you bitches are null and void. | |
| That's basically what she's saying. | |
| But yeah, call it a matriarchy, whatever. | |
| We have the same definition. | |
| She's just using a different word to, I guess, get a better reaction, which I get it, good wordplay. | |
| But if I was to break it down, I would say, again, it's a gynocentric social order that is protected through male influence. | |
| But the male influence no longer exists. | |
| The male influence is simply there to protect the gynocentric social order because women can't actually defend their beliefs. | |
| Now, if you want to constitute that as a matriarchy, you know, semantics, right? | |
| Semantics at this point. | |
| But I think we all understand here. | |
| And I've been saying this for years. | |
| Rolo's been saying this for years. | |
| We live in a gyno-centric social order 100%. | |
| Female thought is what leads a lot of the way that we do things. | |
| Definition of patriarchy is father rule and where positions of government are held majorly by men where women are largely excluded. | |
| So 125 House of Representatives are female, and that's only about 25%. | |
| And only about 28% make up Senate. | |
| And 3.3% of Congress up until this date have ever been women. | |
| So by denotative definition, we literally live in a patriarchy. | |
| Yes, so I disagree with that. | |
| So I think what this gets to, which is actually an important part of the conversation, is that people always think that where there is disparity, there's somehow inequality. | |
| And I actually reject that entirely. | |
| I think it's just a difference in what we're interested in. | |
| I think we're biologically wired, interested in different careers. | |
| And just because if we looked in the fashion industry and said, oh, well, it's being dominated by women, it wouldn't mean that, okay, well, that means that the fashion industry is a matriarchy and men have no sense. | |
| just means have no ability to communicate how they feel in the fashion industry. | |
| I literally. | |
| We're four away guys from 1700. | |
| We're at 1696, man. | |
| Love you guys. | |
| The OSS is growing, man. | |
| The Discord is one chance. | |
| If you can let me know, how many we got on Discord now? | |
| The Discord is growing. | |
| Telegram group is getting put together right now for the active members. | |
| So guys, the channel is growing, man. | |
| I really think that those numbers show that we're just biologically different. | |
| So I actually think politically women have shown that they have a lot more power than men have. | |
| And I'm talking about just in terms of political movements. | |
| The most recent I can think of is the Me Too movement, right? | |
| If a bunch of women get together and complain about a man and refer to the patriarchy and scream, generally speaking, let me know if you agree, the media will celebrate that. | |
| If a bunch of men got together and were shrieking and speaking about women, generally speaking, the media would call them all white supremacists and say that we had a misogyny problem and that things were really wrong in society. | |
| Women are allowed to be more vocal in general about problems. | |
| Well, men are. | |
| Well, let me speak to that. | |
| When we're talking about government and media, these are two different things. | |
| So under the denotative definition of a patriarchy, by the percentages that are occupied in the government, which is majority male, defines us as a patriarchy. | |
| Now, what it comes to for capitalism for marketing purposes and control for capital and revenue, that is a totally different conversation. | |
| But who's making the laws? | |
| I don't think that women are the ones voting to have their reproductive rights taken away, where you have rape, incest, and all of these things excluded to force women to be able to have. | |
| I don't think women in government would largely vote against. | |
| Bro, the rape and incest argument for getting abortions is a literal, that's like 3% of the grapes. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| It's their own interest because it's majority male patriarchy. | |
| Okay, I think, love that point. | |
| Are women allowed to vote? | |
| Oh, of course they are. | |
| Who's voting that patriarchy and then out of curiosity? | |
| No, I totally agree. | |
| And you want to know why? | |
| Because there are so many women who think like you. | |
| You submit to the idea of men rule. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Here we go. | |
| So which one is it? | |
| First, it was we live in a patriarchy. | |
| Okay, well, women get the equal right to vote. | |
| Oh, well, you submit to male patriarchy. | |
| So what the fuck is it, bro? | |
| Like, what is it? | |
| How about this? | |
| How about this cold hard reality? | |
| Here's another ugly truth for you guys. | |
| If you brought a woman and put her in a room by herself and asked her, look, nobody's here. | |
| Would you prefer a male pilot or a female pilot? | |
| They're going to say male pilot. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, nobody's here. | |
| Life-saving surgery. | |
| Would you prefer a male surgeon or a female surgeon? | |
| Male surgeon. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nobody's here. | |
| Would you prefer a male boss or a female boss? | |
| Male boss. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| all right last one if you could prefer if you could have a female president male president which one would you want Male president. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Bro, like, women naturally defer to male authority because men are more competent, man. | |
| Ta-da! | |
| So what the fuck is this bitch talking about? | |
| And everything. | |
| And your ideology is spread across a lot of women who also falsely believe to vote against their own interests just to complain about it in the end. | |
| You know, earlier you said that, you know, women would be much more happier working at home. | |
| But don't you agree that it's human nature to want things that you don't have? | |
| So during the 1950s, which is something that you constantly bring up, you know, it wasn't until 1994 that it was legally illegal to beat your wife. | |
| And so what we're dealing with is people wanting something. | |
| She's referring to the 1994 Violence Act Against Women Act, which provides protection at the federal level for victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, and other crimes. | |
| Bro, so she totally bastardized it. | |
| What the fuck did she say? | |
| Your wife. | |
| It wasn't until 1994 that it was legally illegal to beat your wife. | |
| Okay, so I'm sure there were state statutes that didn't allow you to beat your wife. | |
| She's saying that a federal law was made. | |
| Ooh. | |
| Bro, like the feds don't deal with domestic violence. | |
| That is a that's a state charge. | |
| What the fuck is this bitch talking about, bro? | |
| The reason why they had to make a federal law for it later on is because the states handle it. | |
| Totally fucking mischaracterizing the law. | |
| What, bro? | |
| Totally mischaracterizing it. | |
| Feds don't deal with domestic violence, dummy. | |
| The fuck you talking about, bro? | |
| And so what we're dealing with is people wanting something and then when they get it, they're not happy with it. | |
| And then they have to revoke that idea for something else. | |
| And so what you're saying is that women vote for these things because they have the same mentality as you. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you're acknowledging that women have the freedom to vote. | |
| Yes. | |
| And you're saying that women are still existing mentally, even with the freedom to vote. | |
| They are voting men in because we are still victims of... | |
| No, I don't believe in victimhood. | |
| I believe in lack of education and lack of knowledge. | |
| Because one of the things that you also say-Do you think that it could just be that more men are running for positions of office? | |
| No, not necessarily. | |
| Because remember, the United States, the average reading comprehension of people in the United States is sixth grade. | |
| So we're not dealing with educated people. | |
| Lack of education is the cause for what we see in the world. | |
| And if we educate the women better, because a nation can rise no higher than its woman, and if she reading and comprehending at a sixth grade level and popping out a lot of kids, you know, because the brokest people in the world pop out the most kids. | |
| So if we have those people voting, of course they're going to vote against their interest because they voting for some utopian society that will never exist. | |
| Okay, so that's that's why you think Kamala lost. | |
| This ain't even about Kamala. | |
| What the fuck is this bitch talking about, bro? | |
| Dude. | |
| But we had an opportunity. | |
| Yeah, go ahead. | |
| We had a male running and we had a female running. | |
| So, bro, I hate these pseudo-intellectuals, man. | |
| Like, bro, there's nothing worse than like neglectuals. | |
| All right. | |
| So, what's a neglectual? | |
| People like Tariq Nasheed, Umar Johnson, this bitch, like, come in. | |
| Oh, I'm an intellectual. | |
| I know a bunch of shit. | |
| Oh, look at me. | |
| I'm going to parent some other shit and mischaracterize shit and look all smart. | |
| Bro, retard it, bro. | |
| These are the worst motherfuckers, man. | |
| Worst ones, man. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| They say a whole bunch of nothing. | |
| They say a whole lot without saying anything. | |
| And we actually showed that Trump increased the amount of women who voted for him, right? | |
| So I'm asking you, do you believe that the reason that happened was because women became less educated during that time? | |
| Trump said what there? | |
| Trump increased the share of the women who voted for him from 41% to 45%. | |
| I believe that the reason that happened. | |
| Yeah, because he campaigned. | |
| He put idiots like fucking Pam Bondi and who's the other girl? | |
| The Attorney General, Christy Noman. | |
| Was because women became less educated during that time. | |
| They've always been less educated. | |
| Did you know that UNESCO says that two-thirds of the 700 and the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women? | |
| Illiterate. | |
| And we have sixth grade educated people voting. | |
| And guess who? | |
| Guess the dominant population? | |
| It's white women. | |
| And so guess what? | |
| Now you have to add a race element into that, which you already know exists. | |
| Because we, as black folks, we ain't the dominant people voting people in. | |
| Okay. | |
| So now, when we have to go into white supremacy and feminism, now you have to look at the mind of the people who actually have economic success and what they're voting for because classism actually matters as well. | |
| So, I'm sorry, but a lot of people vote based on their feelings and not based on policy. | |
| Pause, guys. | |
| Yes. | |
| Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority. | |
| Thank you for the respectful conversation. | |
| Well, y'all saw Get his face right there, like, bro, what the fuck is this? | |
| Bro, what the fuck is this bitch on, bro? | |
| Hi. | |
| How are you? | |
| Great to meet you. | |
| I'm doing well. | |
| So, I view this argument. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Another male feminist as a matter of fact, right? | |
| All I heard when that bitch was talking. | |
| Hey, shout out to you, man. | |
| The true alpha with funny emos. | |
| I like that, man. | |
| Those photos. | |
| Man of Stripe says, Hey, Myron, when is your clan rally? | |
| I already paid my clan dues. | |
| I'll do one once a month, bro. | |
| I'll do clan meetings once a month on X. This is a descriptive claim about the culture reality we live in and patriarchy being a system in which men hold the predominance of power in both political, economic, and social. | |
| Punisher says, Myron, you debated that this lesbian the fast well. | |
| She also argues bad faith, just like the lawyer, bitch. | |
| Yeah, I see the video. | |
| Yep. | |
| Wait, why should Myron go to Jubilee? | |
| Shit, Fresher Freaking literally hosts they own 1 verse 20. | |
| Facts. | |
| We could do our own 1 verse 20, actually. | |
| Yo, we should do that, chat. | |
| You know what? | |
| Good fucking idea. | |
| Let's do it. | |
| Chat, you know what? | |
| You niggas just gave me a good idea, bro. | |
| You niggas just gave me a good idea, bro. | |
| I like it. | |
| We can do our own fucking one verse 20. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, yeah. | |
| You know what? | |
| We do it ourselves. | |
| We don't need fucking Jubilee, bro. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Why did I think about that? | |
| Here, I'm going to message Chris right now. | |
| I'm going to message Chris right now and fresh. | |
| Bro. | |
| Ah, man. | |
| Bro. | |
| Text these niggers right now. | |
| All right. | |
| What? | |
| You guys are saying, okay, some niggas said, keep fresh out. | |
| Bro, why y'all niggas, bro? | |
| Stop hanging out fresh, man. | |
| Yeah, Pierre, good idea, bro. | |
| Okay, it's always bitter, old, jealous women that have the biggest mouths. | |
| Dad Dyke wanted to be a man so trying to flirt with Candace. | |
| Trippy says, you did see that yesterday. | |
| Pro was reacting to your street debate from this past Friday. | |
| God damn, that show is boring. | |
| She sounds so miserable. | |
| Moping emo blackpilled. | |
| I didn't know she reacted to it. | |
| Shout out to Pro, though. | |
| 457 members on Discord. | |
| 500 by the end of the stream. | |
| No problem. | |
| All right, niggas, join the Discord. | |
| Let's get 500 y'all in there. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me look here, uh... | |
| Alright, uh... | |
| What else do we got? | |
| Bitch, look, look like she's stuck in a Tupac video from Fresh's Dog. | |
| Can it's going against some top FF top villains? | |
| This is some Marvel type shit. | |
| I'm telling you, bro. | |
| I wish I could be there to help. | |
| Why do these types of women don't realize that they will regret their decisions when they get old and don't have a partner they respect? | |
| Bro, they're stupid. | |
| Mr. Rain says, for the love of God, Martin, go on the show and roast these people. | |
| Bro, I don't think Jubilee wants me there, bro. | |
| Just join OSS from Xavier. | |
| Welcome, bro. | |
| Best news channel out there and entertaining for four hours. | |
| Can't beat it. | |
| W. Martin, always go to streams. | |
| Appreciate you, bro. | |
| Xavier, just so you know, it's going to go up to 10 after this month. | |
| The first month is four bucks. | |
| But thank you so much for your support, bro. | |
| You guys allow me to keep doing this show and keep posting it on YouTube despite the fact that I'm demonetized. | |
| And thank you guys so much. | |
| I love y'all niggas. | |
| 20 verse 1 with fresh lol love fresh cook. | |
| We could do it with fresh too. | |
| I think that would be funny. | |
| That's right. | |
| You don't need Jubilee. | |
| Don't do 1 verse 20. | |
| That's too many thoughts. | |
| Okay, maybe I'll do 1 verse 10 or 115. | |
| 1 verse 15. | |
| We'll see how many of these chicks we could fit in the studio. | |
| Yo, Martin, when can we call you Dr. Misogyny? | |
| I already am, bro. | |
| All right, let's see what this weirdo nigga got to say. | |
| Methods of organization. | |
| So SP 500 companies, 90% of CEOs are men. | |
| Board members, 70%. | |
| Yeah, because women don't want to get these jobs, bro. | |
| 80% of CEOs are men. | |
| 70% of congressional members are men. | |
| Now, you may provide some sort of naturalistic argument to why that is, but what you're assuming. | |
| Yeah, guys, I'll do the 20 verse 1. | |
| Fuck that. | |
| We'll do it better than fucking Jubilee. | |
| Clalcombe Punch. | |
| We'll do it way better than Jubilee because we ain't going to hold back, nigga. | |
| So we'll do it better, bro. | |
| We'll do it ourselves. | |
| Fuck that shit. | |
| You know what's funny? | |
| We do it ourselves. | |
| How much y'all want to bet? | |
| They're going to say, damn, we need this nigga on our shit. | |
| How much do you guys want to bet? | |
| They're going to be like, Clalcombe, punch. | |
| We need this nigga on our shit, bro. | |
| So, yeah, man, I'll do it myself, bro. | |
| Fuck that shit. | |
| What the fuck am I thinking all this time? | |
| Essentially arguing then is that there's a natural patriarchy, which I'm not going to hear from their lawyers. | |
| Bro, you can't. | |
| They didn't fucking, it's not their concept. | |
| I think feminine. | |
| Technically, I've been doing this shit way before them. | |
| I've been doing one verse 20 since 2020, bro. | |
| What the fuck y'all think is talking about, bro? | |
| Everybody that watched Old Fresh and Fair members, we used to have 20 bitches in the studio and I'd be debating them, bro. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| I've been doing this shit way before Jubilee. | |
| This would all disagree with. | |
| We think that there's a clear social pressure as to why this is. | |
| And part of the evidence for that is since feminisms, you know, arise within our public culture, we've now seen an explosion of women entering these fields, but we have a long way to go. | |
| But fundamentally, the claim regarding patriarchy or matriarchy, we are so much closer to where we were just a few decades ago or several, a couple generations ago where women couldn't hold a credit card than a system where men can't hold a credit card. | |
| We're still much closer to that form of system. | |
| Why would you say that we're closer to that? | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| Did you just call us? | |
| Because in terms of economic power, so for example, household wealth, women own 55 cents to every dollar a man owns. | |
| Who controls? | |
| Bro, once they found out the gender gap, wealth gap is 55 cents for every dollar. | |
| Another found it to just be 30 cents for every dollar. | |
| The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis founded the gap. | |
| Bro, that's because women spend their money like retards. | |
| Let's be honest here. | |
| Oh, Sparks. | |
| Sparks84 gifted 50 subs on Rumble. | |
| Thank you, bro. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| I really appreciate that, man. | |
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| Household spending, though. | |
| Talk about how the money's made in America. | |
| How is it being spent? | |
| So it's primarily spent by women, as you've noted, but then the money where the profit's being generated. | |
| It's being generated by the people that are spending and deciding on what the money is being spent on, or would you rather be? | |
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| The person that's just working to earn that. | |
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| Making much profit. | |
| Yeah, you would rush much in a capitalist system, by definition, you would much rather be making the profit than spending. | |
| I would much rather be spending your money than having to work for your money. | |
| Just so we are totally clear here, I would much rather spend your money than have to go out and earn your money. | |
| He's making the stupid wage gap argument. | |
| Well, you're talking about wage laborers in terms of working, but in terms of spending power. | |
| Right. | |
| Well, yeah, well, sure. | |
| But that matters. | |
| If 85%, 85 cents of every dollar, how that's being spent is being determined by women, that's power. | |
| We can't say it's spending power is not. | |
| Why do you think that is the case? | |
| It's because women. | |
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| Unable to enter the workforce and have economic political. | |
| So let's get into the reasons because you brought up something that men are the people that are at the top of these companies, these Fortune 500 companies. | |
| And political power. | |
| You're absolutely right. | |
| Why is that? | |
| It's primarily because the women haven't broken the ceiling quite yet in terms of meeting in terms of parity with these sort of powers. | |
| But what we've seen with the explosion of feminism is that women have actually begun to enter these companies, have risen into both political and economic positions of power. | |
| But that continues to grow year by year, which shows that these social pressures are actually breaking apart as soon as feminism comes into play. | |
| What I would say is what that shows you is that women and men have different interests. | |
| And I think this gets into what I was saying, that just because you see a disparity does not mean that it's not just a disparity in what our interests are. | |
| That's what's being represented. | |
| I don't know why there has been this idea that women should want to aspire to work 80 hours a week in order to be on par with men. | |
| Do you think that the interests are innate or do you think the interests are innate? | |
| So why is it then that, for example, in the 1980s, only a quarter of college graduates were women were now majority of college graduates or women. | |
| That shows that because of the way that social pressures have actually changed, women's interests are actually now changing too. | |
| A majority. | |
| Yeah, they want to be whores, bro. | |
| That's why, if we're going to be honest, like a lot of women go off to college so they can be sluts. | |
| Let's just deal with the elephant in the room, bro. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| A lot of these women just want to be 304s. | |
| I think, or at least half of law school graduates are now women. | |
| It used to be the case, for example, a few hundred years ago that a lot of primary philosophers like Immanuel Kant, Hegel, didn't even believe women could be reasonable. | |
| Now, here you are today doing a debate with me where we're using logic and reason to get to these clothes, and nobody here would dismiss the claim that you can't be rational or logical or be, for example, a great lawyer because you're a woman. | |
| Right. | |
| So I totally agree with you that women, but I think they have actually entered into the workforce. | |
| I mean, entered into college under this external pressure of feeling that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a failure. | |
| She should be able to do that. | |
| And dealt with that. | |
| And those are a part of the way interests work. | |
| Yes, but we're disagreeing on where the pressure is coming from. | |
| Like, I think that now the pressure is that if a woman doesn't enter the force, there's no longer this idea that, okay, we're going to come together as a family, whereas there was this reality that there was this understanding that you would have a partner. | |
| People were getting married when they were 18, 19 years old. | |
| All right. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| People signing their names a little. | |
| The terrible giant. | |
| No! | |
| Alright ninjas. | |
| Alright so Nick Fuentes versus D'Souza. | |
| Now for those of you that don't know Dinesh D'Souza This is him right here American right-wing political commentator and conspiracy theorist is what they label him as. | |
| When the flames of heresy consumed the thinkers of old, it was there when tyrants rose on the lies of propaganda and empires crumbled beneath the truth they couldn't silence. | |
| It was there. | |
| The info war marched alongside the armies of men. | |
| The battle was not just for land or power. | |
| That these colonies are and have a right ought to be free and independent states. | |
| For the hearts and minds and souls of those caught in its wake. | |
| More now than ever, the war rages on. | |
| Nations crumble, ideologies clash, and voices rise in defiance. | |
| For the battlefield of the info war is everywhere, and everyone is a turn to volume up for you guys. | |
| Soldier, truth is rising in every moment of human struggle. | |
| The info war was always there. | |
| Which side are you? | |
| They're going to debate Israel-Iran. | |
| This is a fight for humanity. | |
| This is InfoWars. | |
| Real leadership, the essence of leadership is showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to adopt it. | |
| And being a leader means you go against the tide when the tide is wrong. | |
| You go against all right, as we wait. | |
| Oh, hold on. | |
| I'm just gonna mute it. | |
| Shout out. | |
| We got to uh, we got DPG says, says, uh, DPG said, uh, let's see here. | |
| Myron versus 20 girl bosses, right after you enjoy some fine chicken, waffles, watermelon, cool day in the hood. | |
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| Don DeMarco. | |
| Okay, yeah, Alex is running ads, guys. | |
| Alex runs a lot of ads. | |
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| Probably sometime in August. | |
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| Myron, just got the notification for Nick's debate. | |
| Okay, Druski, Druski, yep, got you, got you, got you guys. | |
| We're on it now. | |
| We're on it. | |
| All right, cool. | |
| It is everything. | |
| It is your greatest strength. | |
| It becomes your soul to risk your life for freedom. | |
| It's what God forged you. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| Let me know when he's done running the ads. | |
| Our grandparents. | |
| Now, it's because of feminism. | |
| And I'm saying this is actually the dad. | |
| Alex runs a lot of ads, chats, so just let me know when it's done. | |
| They think that if you they have to be pressured to go take out a loan to go to college and then you have the pressure to get well, they have the same pressures as men because we no longer rely on pause. | |
| You've been voted out by the majority of people who did like our conversation. | |
| Yeah, bro is getting cooked, though. | |
| He's using the fucking stupid ass wage gap myth, retarded. | |
| Absolutely retarded. | |
| Might have to come back to you. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| This fucking whale. | |
| Hi, guys. | |
| Hi. | |
| Very nice to meet you. | |
| All right. | |
| So I don't want to start this up because I know that we're probably. | |
| Let me go to see here. | |
| Okay. | |
| So they're waiting here. | |
| They're probably doing a sound check or some shit like that. | |
| So, all right, let me see if I have any chats here. | |
| Hey, Martin, have you heard back from any college applications? | |
| No, I didn't get to. | |
| I didn't fucking apply yet. | |
| I'm going to do it, though. | |
| I will do it, Cage. | |
| Did you imagine, bro? | |
| I would go to Harvard Digga. | |
| That'd be funny. | |
| I might get it. | |
| They might just deny me, though, just on just on fucking calls. | |
| Like, hey, this nigga to Eldo, bro. | |
| Major of women's studies. | |
| That'd be funny as hell. | |
| All right. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| We're here. | |
| No seven central standard time. | |
| I am your embattled host, Alex Jones, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas broadcasting worldwide this evening. | |
| And we are about to host a two hour uncensored, unfiltered, real debate. | |
| Not where there's a whole bunch of canned questions, not where it's a bunch of corporate chills upside down. | |
| Shout out to DPG with the 45 gifted, bro. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you, DVG. | |
| People for their perspective have a real debate. | |
| They can go three hours if they want. | |
| We're scheduled for two. | |
| But when we get into the next hour, we will take questions. | |
| We're going to post very soon up on X above the live feet of this so we can get some of those questions in from X and have your questions. | |
| I have a few questions for later. | |
| I imagine those will already probably be answered on both of their own prerogative. | |
| So, Dinesh D'Souza, I've known him for 20 years, was watching him and saw speeches he gave when he worked for Ronald Reagan as a cabinet official, best-selling author, filmmaker, former political prisoner, a true American success story. | |
| Dinesh D'Souza.com on X at Dinesh D'Souza, host of the D'Souza podcast. | |
| And then the 26-year-old phenomenon. | |
| I mean, I've known who this guy is for nine years. | |
| Exploded on the scene. | |
| Unforgiven for the five gifted. | |
| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| Fuentes, America First at Nick J. Fuentes, NicholasJ. | |
| Fuentez.com. | |
| And he's very proud of his commoner roots, which I am as well. | |
| But he's Nicholas J. Fuentes, as I always said. | |
| This is a college dropout from Chicago. | |
| He was in his early 20s, 26. | |
| He worked on a campaign for Donald Trump 2016 and hosts a nightly show called America First that is reaching tens of millions of people a day conservatively. | |
| So both men are very different in different ways, but obviously in general, are obviously both very articulate and very popular. | |
| And so we're not going to have classic debate standards here, but I want to give each person a five-minute opening statement here tonight. | |
| And I should also- Hey, I'll have been watching my debates, bro. | |
| That's exactly what I do. | |
| Add, I mean, you know, you can see the promos and everything, why you're here. | |
| We're having a debate about the Iran-Israel war/slash crisis, AIPAC, lobbies, the Mulas, sleeper cells, the FATAWA, unprecedented issued by the number three Moolah, calling for Donald Trump and Benjamin who's death and basically death for anybody that supports them. | |
| They admittedly have big sleeper cells. | |
| I mean, this is a declaration of war. | |
| It's gotten very little coverage. | |
| I think Trump's trying to ignore it and hoping it's just a threat. | |
| But this is off to the races. | |
| So I'm going to flip this silver coin to decide who is going to have the first five minutes here. | |
| So I'll just say Dinesh D'Souza's heads, Nick Fuentez is tails. | |
| Here we go. | |
| And it is Dinesh D'Souza. | |
| All right. | |
| So we will go now to Dinesh D'Souza and get his first five minutes. | |
| Then we'll go right to Nick Fuentez. | |
| And then after that, you probably won't hear from me for almost 30, 45 minutes. | |
| I'm going to try to shut up and have a real debate. | |
| There's nothing more frustrating than these debates where there's constant eruption. | |
| So, Dinesh, thanks for accepting this debate. | |
| And I'm glad it happened. | |
| Glad it got done. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| You've got the floor for the next five minutes. | |
| Thank you, Alex. | |
| Welcome, Nick. | |
| I am looking forward to our debate. | |
| And, you know, it's, I'm thrilled to do it because free speech has been under attack. | |
| And you guys, Alex, Nick, Laura Lumer, and others have been deplatformed. | |
| I am a strong opponent of all of this. | |
| And for this reason, even though some people were like, why do you want to debate Nick Fuentes? | |
| I'm like, no, there are taboo issues here that are being raised. | |
| They're not being adequately discussed. | |
| Some people run away from them. | |
| I don't run away from them. | |
| And I think it's a good idea to sort of have it out. | |
| And so that's really why I'm here. | |
| I want to defend Trump. | |
| I want to defend MAGA, make America great again. | |
| I want to defend America first. | |
| Seems to me we have a big disagreement here about what America first means. | |
| And that's what I want to talk about. | |
| When we talk about making America great again, it's important to think about what made America great in the first place. | |
| Now, one obvious answer to that is that America became great by kind of looking inward and attending to its own problems, going back to the founders. | |
| I up the volume on the USB guys. | |
| It should be better now. | |
| Not true at all. | |
| Right after the American founding, Thomas Jefferson found out that there were these Barbary pirates in the Middle East. | |
| Now, they weren't attacking America. | |
| They weren't starting a war over here. | |
| But Jefferson basically dispatched an armed force to collobber them, to beat the heck out of them. | |
| Why? | |
| Because they were disrupting our interests. | |
| They were disrupting our trade. | |
| They were hurting our position in the world. | |
| So even though we had this infant democracy, collobbering bad guys is something that we started doing from the very beginning. | |
| Now, fast forward to, you know, Alex, you and I are in Texas. | |
| And let's talk about the middle of the 19th century. | |
| Again, America's building a strong country. | |
| It's focused inward. | |
| But guess what? | |
| We get into a big war with Mexico. | |
| The Mexican war lasts about four years. | |
| We start it. | |
| We started the Mexican war. | |
| We go over there, get our troops into Mexico City, clobber the Mexicans, take a good chunk of Mexico, including a good chunk of Texas. | |
| Later, large parts of the country that were not part of America become added to the country. | |
| And we do this basically by force. | |
| Now, we have good reasons for it. | |
| I'm not going to go into the reasons, but the point is we did it. | |
| Fast forward now, I'm going to omit World War II and focus on Reagan. | |
| The Soviet empire is gaining strength. | |
| The Soviet Union grabs nine countries, 10 countries actually, between 1974 and 1980. | |
| They don't attack us. | |
| They're not waging war over here. | |
| And Reagan does not start a war with them either. | |
| But what he does do is he starts clobbering them in all kinds of ways. | |
| He clobbers them in Afghanistan. | |
| He clobbers them in Somalia, in Angola, in Mozambique, in Nicaragua. | |
| And we do it by supporting armed forces that are repelling these Soviet armies, and we win the Cold War. | |
| Who can deny that the world is better off and America is better off? | |
| That is America first. | |
| And that is making America great again. | |
| So when we're talking about making America great again, it has never meant, and it doesn't mean for Trump, a kind of, you know, isolationism. | |
| I would even deny that it means no new wars. | |
| And I say that because no president, no president who takes an oath to support the Constitution can make that absolute guarantee. | |
| There are all kinds of scenarios, and I'm happy to lay out about six of them, in which the United States would be drawn into a war. | |
| And so the pledge is made as a statement of principle, but Trump is the commander in chief, and it's his decision to make at a given time when the situation is dangerous enough that there should be a war. | |
| Now, there isn't a war going on in Iran, but I do want to say about the Iranians this. | |
| They are not a regional power like Iraq. | |
| This is, I think, one of the key differences. | |
| A lot of people think Iran is Iraq, you know, and Saddam Hussein is the same as the mullahs, and Trump is the same as Bush. | |
| He's becoming like Bush. | |
| No, Iran has a global ideology, and they always have. | |
| The reason that they chant death to America, they also chant debt to Israel. | |
| But death to America is the main chant, and debt to Israel is the secondary chant. | |
| Why? | |
| Because we are the main enemy. | |
| We are the great Satan. | |
| Israel may be the little Satan, but we are the great Satan. | |
| And we are controlling Israel, not the other way around. | |
| That's how the Iranians see it. | |
| The little Satan is not telling the great Satan what to do. | |
| Sure. | |
| It's actually the opposite. | |
| The Iranian goal is a global caliphate that obviously involves global supervision, Sharia law, bringing it here, infiltrating this country, terror cells. | |
| And the nuclear weapons are just taking this global ideology and giving it enormous power. | |
| There's an old saying that says, what do you say to what do you call a dictator who has nuclear weapons? | |
| And the answer is, sir. | |
| What that means is that when a guy gets nukes, he's on a completely different level. | |
| You've got to, in a sense, be deferential in a way that you otherwise wouldn't. | |
| So here's Iran. | |
| They are cooking these nukes. | |
| They are building this uranium. | |
| They're enriching it way beyond any peaceful purposes. | |
| And Trump says, look, it's in our interest that they not have this weapon. | |
| Yes, it's in Israel's interest as well, but we're not doing it for Israel. | |
| We're doing it because we don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. | |
| Okay, that's about five and a half minutes. | |
| We'll come back to you. | |
| You guys have a free-for-all in a moment. | |
| Nick Fuentez and something you said today. | |
| I'm just going to add a small caveat and then go back to you guys. | |
| I'm about to say it up front. | |
| I appreciate you doing this debate. | |
| I appreciate Nick and you guys having this idea. | |
| I forget who came up with it, but I think, if I remember correctly, Nick challenged you and you said sure. | |
| And then, you know, here we are two weeks later. | |
| So thank you both for doing this. | |
| But exactly, what we're doing is what the left, who is diabolical against free speech, does not want. | |
| They don't want real debate. | |
| Guys, do me a favor, smash the like button on YouTube. | |
| Nick's going to give his opening statement here in a second. | |
| Smash that fucking like button, man. | |
| All right. | |
| You guys aren't going to get content like this anywhere else, man. | |
| Smash the fucking like button. | |
| I'm going to give some commentary over this stuff as well. | |
| So smash that fucking like button. | |
| Let's get to 3,000. | |
| We got 5,000 plus you guys in here. | |
| We got, I think, almost 8,000 of you guys all together. | |
| And I'd like to start out by saying as well, I appreciate Dinesh D'Souza for doing the debate. | |
| And I actually appreciate him saying that because it is true. | |
| We have both been brutally censored. | |
| And I know that Dinesh was also targeted by the Obama administration. | |
| So, you know, we're really all sort of in the same boat in terms of we've all been persecuted to some extent. | |
| So I appreciate him saying that. | |
| But I'd like to move on and get into the subject of the debate. | |
| And I actually like how Dinesh framed it. | |
| I agree with him. | |
| The central question concerning the Iran war is what does America first mean? | |
| What is the United States involvement in Iran or what should it be? | |
| And how does that conform to the stated goal of putting our country first, making America great again and pursuing the American strategic interest? | |
| And without going into the Barbary Wars or Reagan or any of that, we don't need to go back that far. | |
| I think we need to talk about the current strategic landscape in the Middle East. | |
| And we need to get some things down first analytically before we proceed. | |
| And I'm actually going to pick up where Dinesh left off at the end and kind of start with that premise, because that is, I think, the mainstream premise. | |
| Let's say that's a status quo accepted premise of the U.S. media or the conservative media is that Iran is an apocalyptic regime. | |
| They have global ambitions. | |
| They're led by religious zealots and fanatics. | |
| They're racing towards a bomb because they want to attack Israel and the United States. | |
| And I would say that with that analytical framework, you probably would say that it's justified that we go to war with Iran. | |
| I would probably agree under those circumstances. | |
| But I would clarify a couple of things. | |
| Let's say that in the first place, this is not the first regime that has been described this way. | |
| When we were at war with the Soviet Union, it was conservative military planners that said the exact same thing. | |
| They said the Soviets are a nihilistic death cult. | |
| We can't negotiate with them. | |
| Khrushchev said we will bury them. | |
| They want to destroy the United States. | |
| Of course, we negotiated with them. | |
| Of course, Nixon had detente. | |
| And eventually we negotiated with Gorbachev. | |
| And the wall came down and we didn't have to go to war. | |
| We said the same thing about Maoist China. | |
| They killed 70 million people. | |
| They're a communist death cult. | |
| We negotiate with them all the time. | |
| They joined the World Trade Organization. | |
| I don't think anybody would argue that communism is not a nihilistic, global ideology with ambitions to take over the planet. | |
| It certainly did. | |
| It always had. | |
| Yet we negotiated. | |
| Let's also talk about Iran's nuclear program. | |
| And once again, let's sort of do some housekeeping. | |
| Iran does not have a nuclear bomb. | |
| They're not currently pursuing a nuclear bomb. | |
| And what you would call Iran is a nuclear threshold state. | |
| They're engaging in something. | |
| And this is technical. | |
| It's called nuclear hedging. | |
| This is where you have the technology, the expertise, and the infrastructure to make a nuclear weapon. | |
| But you don't actually build one. | |
| Why do you maintain the threshold latent nuclear status? | |
| You maintain that in the event that the security situation changes. | |
| There's a few countries, actually. | |
| Not just Iran. | |
| They're in the exact same boat. | |
| And those countries are South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. | |
| They're all considered nuclear threshold states. | |
| They have the expertise, the infrastructure, the technology to make a bomb. | |
| Why do they have that expertise? | |
| Why do they maintain the threshold status? | |
| Because they're on the doorstep of China. | |
| China is a much more powerful country. | |
| And they themselves have a native nuclear program. | |
| They engage in nuclear hedging in the event that they need to deter a threat from a regional adversary. | |
| Does this sound familiar? | |
| Why is Iran pursuing nuclear hedging? | |
| Why do they have a threshold status? | |
| They have this because Israel is the only country in the Middle East, actually, that has an undeclared nuclear weapons program. | |
| They have a nuclear arsenal of 200 bombs. | |
| They're not a signatory on the NPT. | |
| Israel is the only country with a nuclear arsenal and their Iran sworn enemy. | |
| Let's also talk about the history. | |
| The United States overthrew the government of Iran in 1953. | |
| A democratically elected prime minister who wanted to nationalize Iran's resources and put Iran first. | |
| He was overthrown by the CIA. | |
| The United States installed the brutal dictatorship. | |
| The Iranian people revolted against it. | |
| Ever since, the United States and Israel have been at war with Iran. | |
| And we've destroyed all their neighbors. | |
| We went into Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein. | |
| All right, Nick, I'm going to interrupt you. | |
| I just said five minutes. | |
| It could have been 10 minutes. | |
| You guys are both smart. | |
| We're talking for hours. | |
| So at this point, just let Dinesh come back and counter that. | |
| And then you guys just, this is a real debate. | |
| You guys can have a free-for-all. | |
| So I'll just pitch it back to Dinesh. | |
| You can leave off where you were stopping there. | |
| Nick Fuentes, go ahead. | |
| Yeah, terrific. | |
| I mean, Alex, I think you only jump in if we are interrupting too much and can't make our points or either hogging all the time. | |
| And I think otherwise, I'm happy to just go back and forth. | |
| I'd like to just address a few of these points and we can kind of get into it further. | |
| So I'll start by kind of correcting a couple of points that I think are just fallacious. | |
| The first one is the idea that the Soviet Union was said to be some kind of a maniacal nihilistic power. | |
| No one ever said that. | |
| Not only that, but the whole premise of mutually assured destruction or mad was based upon the idea that you have two completely rational adversaries and each of them understand that the deployment of nuclear weapons, the one against the other, will meet with catastrophic retaliation. | |
| Never once did we dream that Khrushchev was like a suicide bomber or Brezhnev or Andropov or Chernenko or any of the Soviet leaders going back to Lenin. | |
| We knew that they valued their lives. | |
| We saw them as protecting their own interests. | |
| So the idea that there's some kind of a, we've heard all this before with the with Russia and China, that's not true. | |
| The idea of negotiating with the Soviet Union was the liberal idea. | |
| It was the idea that when you make treaties, people behave themselves. | |
| And I think Reagan exposed that to be fundamentally stupid. | |
| It misses what human nature is all about. | |
| It misses the lessons of Machiavelli and Klaus Witz and Sun Tzu. | |
| It misses the idea that treaties are simply disguised ways that powerful countries advance their own interests. | |
| No one is going to sit down and make a treaty because they want to. | |
| You make treaties because you have to. | |
| You make treaties by and large in which you concede things that you would have lost anyway on the battlefield. | |
| Now, let's look at Iran, for example. | |
| If it's true, first of all, a word about Mozadeg. | |
| I kept, I heard Nick use the word democratically elected. | |
| Mozadek was not democratically elected. | |
| He was not elected by the Iranian people. | |
| He was in fact appointed by the Shah. | |
| Let's remember that the Shah was in power in 1953. | |
| So if you have a dictator who's running the country, how does someone get democratically elected? | |
| So I think this is actually taking up a talking point from the left and a bogus talking point also. | |
| By the way, the first thing that Mozadek did when he came in, he dissolved parliament. | |
| So this democratically elected guy dissolves the very parliament that supposedly put him into power. | |
| So he was an autocrat, in some ways, no different than the Shah. | |
| There was a power struggle. | |
| Yes, the CIA was involved. | |
| Mozadegh was overthrown. | |
| In my view, that was a very good thing. | |
| Now, some people will say, well, that's what caused the Iranian revolution. | |
| Wrong. | |
| The Mozadegh business was in 1953. | |
| The Iranian revolution was in 1979. | |
| Are you telling me that the Iranians were really mad, but they decided to go on a 25-year vacation and then decided, okay, now let's work ourselves up into a frenzy 25 years later. | |
| The reason we got Iran is basically because of Jimmy Carter. | |
| Jimmy Carter decided that the Shah was a despot. | |
| He didn't want to support the secret police. | |
| He pulled the Persian rug out from the Shah and basically we got Khomeini. | |
| So this is the nincum poopery of Jimmy Carter. | |
| He tried to get rid of what he saw as the bad guy and we got the worst guy. | |
| And then we've had a risk. | |
| I'm going to respond to that, but we're going to jump in a bunch. | |
| This is a great debate, but we're kind of doing a history lesson debating history. | |
| Go as long as you guys want. | |
| We go three hours if you want. | |
| I hope we get into the current stuff, the FANO. | |
| Trump's saying they may have a peace. | |
| Yo, Mozadek was elected by the 16th Magis. | |
| So they voted him in. | |
| So what is he talking about? | |
| Also, he said that we only have that deal with the Russians because they're rational. | |
| Well, I would argue the Iranians are rational too, because they could have attacked the U.S. base, but they notified the U.S. beforehand. | |
| They went ahead and did restrained responses every time Israel escalated. | |
| So they're rational actors as well. | |
| What is he talking about? | |
| You feel Monday, the Israel lobby, all of that. | |
| During the 60s and 70s, we believed the Soviets are more powerful than us. | |
| They had more nukes than us. | |
| And we thought that they were going to strike us first. | |
| They thought they could survive it. | |
| And the rhetoric about the Soviets was the same. | |
| They have this global ambition, domino theory. | |
| They want a global revolution. | |
| It was the exact same stuff that they say about Iran, and yet we never invaded the Soviet Union. | |
| We didn't need regime change in the Soviet Union to go in and decapitate the regime with airstrikes. | |
| It just isn't true. | |
| We negotiated. | |
| So I would say that's in the first place, but we don't need to relitigate the history of the Cold War. | |
| In the second place, the Mossadegh, it's really neither here nor there, the exact particularities here. | |
| The point is this. | |
| The United States and Israel pursue regime change across the entire region. | |
| That's the point I'm trying to make. | |
| And I didn't get to finish in my opening statement. | |
| We overthrew Iran's government once. | |
| And you admit it's a CIA coup in 53. | |
| In 1979, the people are furious because of the secret police, because of the white revolution, because of the reforms that were made under the Shah. | |
| They overthrow the Shah's government, the Western-backed government, because they saw it as a puppet. | |
| And the Islamic Revolution enjoyed broad support in Iranian society. | |
| What took place ever since then is regime change, one regime change operation after another. | |
| Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria, you name it, whether it's the Arab Spring and it's these soft power color revolution coups or ground wars or it's civil wars. | |
| That's the business we do. | |
| And we do it no matter who it is. | |
| We do it against secular dictators. | |
| We do it against people that cooperate with us and those that don't. | |
| Gaddafi gave up his nuclear weapons in 2003. | |
| We backed airstrikes against him anyway in 2011. | |
| We backed Saddam at one point. | |
| We oversaw the dismantlement of his nuclear program. | |
| We went to war against him in 2003. | |
| We said we weren't going to war against Assad and Syria. | |
| We did. | |
| He's now overthrown and now you have ISIS in power. | |
| This is the history of the Middle East. | |
| And this gets to the reason of why Iran wants a nuclear weapon. | |
| It's not because they want to kill everybody. | |
| It's not because they're fanatical and we can't negotiate and they're trying to bring about the end times and the escaton. | |
| It's because they want to deter the same fate. | |
| Regime change would happen to all of their neighbors. | |
| That makes them rational. | |
| Oh, let me stop you. | |
| I said no interrupt. | |
| You guys are both too polite. | |
| Every two or three minutes, I'm going to make you pause. | |
| That goes back to what Dinesh was just saying earlier. | |
| He's like, when North Korea has nukes, we say, sir, which I get that, and I don't want them having nukes. | |
| They do embolist missiles to hit us. | |
| But that then begs the question: Iran, if we can hedge and maybe have some hidden, then that speaks to why they would want to. | |
| I mean, it says there's a lot to say here, but go ahead. | |
| Yeah, one of the mullahs, right in the middle of all this, one of the key mullahs made a very key admission. | |
| He said, this is not about Iran. | |
| This is about Islam. | |
| Right there, you get the heart of the matter. | |
| These mullahs, and yes, there was a broad-based Iranian revolution, but the mullahs in that power struggle took power. | |
| And they have ruled dictatorially over Iran now since 1979. | |
| They've made the Iranian revolution semi-permanent. | |
| But the key to understanding that revolution, going all the way back from when they seized the American hostages to the strike on Beirut, 1982, to the fact that Iran has been sponsoring terrorism, not just in the region. | |
| They have tentacles in Venezuela. | |
| They have tentacles in South America. | |
| They have cells in the United States. | |
| They are making an alliance with Russia and China to create a kind of axis of power. | |
| So to the degree, Nick, that you're saying that this is a global chessboard, I agree. | |
| And I think that, in a way, puts an interesting question for us, which is that isn't it a fact that there is a jihadi or radical strain of Islam? | |
| This ultimately is what is driving a lot of these radical Muslims, right? | |
| They are Hezbollah, Hamas. | |
| It doesn't matter whether they're Shia or Sunni. | |
| Hamas is Sunni. | |
| Why is Iran funding Hamas? | |
| Because they don't care about those distinctions. | |
| At the end of the day, at the end of the day, they care about whether you're an infidel, yes or no. | |
| This radical Islam is a global ideology. | |
| Look, you can say the mullahs keep saying it, I don't believe it, but you should believe it. | |
| When the Russians said that they wanted a global triumph of communism, they meant it. | |
| We took it seriously. | |
| And by the way, we didn't end the Soviet Union through some sort of a treaty. | |
| We ended the Soviet Union by bankrupting them. | |
| Reagan ultimately defeated them in the Cold War. | |
| It was not a treaty. | |
| It was they were out of gas. | |
| They couldn't compete in an arms race. | |
| We were building MX missiles and putting multiple warheads on them. | |
| We were building a missile shield. | |
| We were supporting guerrilla revolutions around the world. | |
| That's ultimately Afghanistan became, by their own admission, a bleeding wound. | |
| So this is why the Soviets gave in. | |
| They didn't give in. | |
| No country ever gives in because of a treaty. | |
| The idea that communism abolished itself. | |
| Eastern Europe was freed because we put a piece of paper in front of them. | |
| They went, oh, okay, let's get rid of all of this stuff. | |
| We were once a global empire. | |
| We'll now become a second-rate superpower. | |
| That's not how it happened at all. | |
| And that's a misunderstanding of Iran. | |
| Islam is a conquering force. | |
| The Muslims came out of the Arabian desert. | |
| How do you think they conquered the Holy Land? | |
| They took Jerusalem. | |
| They took Syria. | |
| They took Jordan. | |
| They conquered Iran by force. | |
| That's how they got it. | |
| They are the occupier of Iran. | |
| Okay, Dinesh. | |
| And by the way, you're both very smart men. | |
| I've studied the history. | |
| You're both accurate in the basic facts. | |
| Very interesting. | |
| I'm not saying the general public's dumb, but even really smart political people really, most of them can't find Iran on a map. | |
| So I don't want to throw this in. | |
| I figured very smart, Dinesh. | |
| You know, I'm trying to throw the debate away here, but very smart to get into America versus Iran up front. | |
| I was imagining, and I'm not trying to steer this, though I want to spend some time on it, the whole issue of Israel and the Israel lobby and where that sits, because I know that's Nick's bailiwick. | |
| And, you know, so that's just something I'm throwing out there as well, because that's why a lot of Americans have seen, I'm not saying I love the Islamists or any of this, but we've seen regime change. | |
| Now, the former head of Al-Qaeda in charge of Syria, we see Hamas being, you know, Israel helped set it up, you know, as a counterbalance. | |
| Then we've got, you know, Iran, you know, all of this. | |
| And so I think a lot of Americans just don't believe the intelligence establishment, even though I wouldn't cry at night if the mullahs fell. | |
| So, I mean, what about the APAC-Israel issue in all of this, Dinesh, for like a minute? | |
| Can I respond actually to what he said? | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I apologize. | |
| No, you're fine. | |
| I just want to have equal time. | |
| But I mean, with regard to this, there is just like this. | |
| And, you know, forgive me if this sounds, I'm trying to be cordial here, but I do believe there is this engine in the United States from the conservative movement that says it is about Islam. | |
| You know, this is Glenn Beck's book. | |
| This is sort of the Fox News mantra. | |
| It is Islam. | |
| Islam is the problem. | |
| And I'm not an Islamist. | |
| I'm a Catholic. | |
| I'm not pro-Islam. | |
| And I wouldn't even call myself pro-Iran. | |
| I'm pro-America. | |
| And to sort of narrow the discussion, let's talk about Islamism. | |
| Let's talk about jihadism. | |
| I agree with you. | |
| There is an element of jihadism in the Middle East. | |
| There are these radical Muslims that they want to return to the faith of the pious ones, the ancient Muslims, the first two and three generations of Muslims. | |
| They come from Saudi Arabia. | |
| Hezbollah, Hamas, the Iranian backed groups do not attack Americans on American soil. | |
| They're not global powers. | |
| They're local powers. | |
| They're regional powers. | |
| They don't attack the United States. | |
| They may attack the United States in Beirut or Iraq because the United States is in their territory. | |
| We're in the Middle East. | |
| We're in their neighborhood. | |
| We're backing Israel's brutal war on Lebanon in the 80s, where they commit massacres, castrating people, scalping people, brutal atrocities that are well documented that Israel, I mean, their own commission blames Ariel Sharon for this, the defense minister. | |
| So, you know, they don't attack us on our soil. | |
| The terrorists that do attack us are Wahhabists. | |
| They're Salafist. | |
| That comes from Saudi Arabia. | |
| Saudi Arabia spent billions of dollars promoting Wahhabism, which is the ideology of al-Qaeda, of ISIS. | |
| We backed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. | |
| We backed bin Laden. | |
| We do arms deals with Saudi Arabia. | |
| And you know what? | |
| To some extent, this radicalism is going away. | |
| And it came from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, these other places. | |
| And it's going away because we made a deal with Mohammed bin Salman. | |
| We did arms deals throughout. | |
| We're allies throughout, buy oil from them throughout. | |
| We didn't invade Saudi Arabia and install a Western liberal democracy. | |
| You know, we don't like your regime. | |
| We're going to drop bombs on you. | |
| We negotiated with them over time. | |
| And by the way, they were the biggest problem. | |
| As far as Iran is concerned, it's important to analytically determine their strategic interest because that's how you determine what we have to do about it. | |
| Israel wants regime change in Iran. | |
| That's why Iran wants a bomb to deter this, which is a credible fear. | |
| Now, the United States won't let Iran have the bomb. | |
| Now, if you want to give Iran the Soviet Union treatment and bankrupt them through maximum pressure and sanctions, that's what we were doing. | |
| But you're calling for regime change. | |
| We didn't do regime change in the Soviet Union. | |
| We allowed them, and we went in there, actually. | |
| George Bush managed it, I think, in a good way. | |
| We managed a peaceful transition of power after a long period of soft power and smart power that we used against them. | |
| You're saying we need to go in and invade Iran or not maybe invade Iran, but force them to have regime change with CIA operations, foreign media, maximum pressure sanctions, backing Israeli operations. | |
| And I would say that's not in America's interest. | |
| That's what Israel wants. | |
| That's not what we want. | |
| Regime change has a terrible track record from Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Syria. | |
| There's zero success stories. | |
| I think that I agree with you in some sense. | |
| We don't want a nuclear Iran, but we need to understand why we're on the threshold of one. | |
| And that has to do with Israel's ambitious and aggressive actions. | |
| In my opinion, the move is restrain Israel, stop them from attacking Iran, get Iran to come back to the table and try to get them to agree to some kind of framework like the JCPOA. | |
| And maybe we could talk about the JCPOA because to me, that is the most important precedent. | |
| I am trying to equal time. | |
| I was throwing a quick question back to Dinesh to give you a longer response because I kind of, I'm glad we have this debate. | |
| I just figured it would be about the current situation. | |
| I love the history, but we're kind of still in that. | |
| And I'm glad you guys are so informative trying to educate people. | |
| But just in general, you guys can wherever you want, counterback what he was saying Dinesh. | |
| Then I would like to just interject the current crisis. | |
| Where do you see it going? | |
| The FATOA, Trump saying, I'm going to kill, you know, you're lucky I don't kill you. | |
| I might kill you, the Iranian leader, which I support Trump and Loving, but that was provocative. | |
| I mean, and I also would ask you guys where you think this is going and is there a path for peace in a larger debate, which I figured you guys were getting to first about the Israel lobby. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me say some things about regime change to lay a foundation of what I think the MAGA view on this is. | |
| Because I think the MAGA view on this is a repudiation of Bush, but it's not a repudiation of Reagan. | |
| In fact, it's a restatement of the Reagan principles, although admittedly in a very different situation. | |
| Obviously, in the 70s and 80s, the Reagan focus was on the Soviet Empire. | |
| The situation now is totally different. | |
| But there are a lot of really bad regimes in the world. | |
| And these are regimes that harm our interests in all kinds of ways. | |
| So ask a simple question. | |
| Is it in our interest for these really bad regimes? | |
| And I'll be happy to go through a list and we can agree on what they are. | |
| Would it be a good idea for these regimes to have change, for the bad guys who are running these regimes to go get away, for the regimes themselves to be toppled, and for something else to take their place? | |
| So if we look at Iran, for example, I would say, I am willing to take any chance on getting rid of the mullahs, these jihadi mullahs, these people who wish death to us and are building up the means to do it. | |
| Oh, and I don't know. | |
| Okay, maybe Nick's right. | |
| Maybe he's wrong. | |
| I tend to believe the mullahs over Nick. | |
| They say that they want to have global jihad. | |
| They say that they want a global caliphate. | |
| They say that they're building up the strength to do it. | |
| They're allying with other people who certainly do have nuclear weapons and do have that kind of power. | |
| So would it be a good idea to have regime change in Iran? | |
| Would it be in our interest? | |
| Forget about Israel. | |
| Of course it would. | |
| Now, a separate question is: what are we willing to expend for that to happen? | |
| So my question to Nick is: all right, let's start at the very beginning. | |
| Would you be willing to expend 50 cents to get the mullahs to leave, to quit, to go home, to become refugees and go to other countries? | |
| They can go to luxury apartments in Qatar and elsewhere and let the Iranian people have a plebiscite. | |
| We're not going to go in there. | |
| We're not going to arrange tribal meetings. | |
| We're not going to take over the country. | |
| We're going to let them fix it. | |
| I would be very confident that what comes after, whatever it is, which could be autocracy, it could be democracy, it could be some hybrid, is going to be better than what's there now. | |
| So I think Nick is so blinded by his hatred of Israel that he's losing sight of America first. | |
| He's become automatically friendly to the mullahs. | |
| So he's giving them a much more rational account of the Iranian interests than he even gives of American interests. | |
| I mean, every time he talks about America, he uses the phrase we. | |
| But let's remember that we've had alternating regimes between Republicans and Democrats. | |
| So he mentioned the Arab Spring. | |
| The Arab Spring was basically an anti-American operation organized with the help of Barack Obama. | |
| Barack Obama wants Iran to have nukes. | |
| He was trying to create space for them to do that and give them money to enable them to do that. | |
| Why? | |
| Because Obama has an ideology that's anti-American. | |
| So we can't just say we and take the blame for what Obama did and what we're doing. | |
| I'm just watching the clock trying to just be a referee here. | |
| Good points, Nick. | |
| Well, that's a lot to tackle there. | |
| I would say in the first place, we, and I have to address this first, just to get it out of the way. | |
| When you say we take the mullahs at their word, you're citing obscure one of their clerical leaders. | |
| And you say, well, that guy said it's about Islam. | |
| That defines their whole regime. | |
| If you want to take them at their word, let's go to the supreme leader. | |
| The supreme leader is the top cleric in Iran, the top cleric in Shiite Islam. | |
| It's in their constitution. | |
| Supreme leader's got to be a cleric. | |
| The Ayatollah promulgated a fatwa 20 years ago that says that attaining nuclear weapons and using them is against Islamic law. | |
| And that has been cited over and over again in 2005, in 2015. | |
| In recent negotiations, they say the supreme leader says it's contrary, and I could give you the quotes completely to Islamic doctrine to have nuclear weapons. | |
| So you can't have it both ways. | |
| You can't say we're going to take them at their word when one guy in the government says we're going to take over the world, but you can't have it both ways and say we can't listen to the supreme leader say we don't want nuclear weapons. | |
| We have to do one or the other. | |
| I'll just say that first. | |
| Then we get further, Nick. | |
| May I ask you a question about that? | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| Okay, go ahead. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, so, and then with regard to regime change, I would contend that regime change is just not desirable. | |
| You say, you know, well, how much are you willing to expend to pursue regime change? | |
| I'm saying I don't think it's desirable. | |
| And here's the evidence for this. | |
| You say, well, I'm confident something better will happen. | |
| There'll be this democratic plebiscite. | |
| What is the history of regime change? | |
| When Hazni Mubarak was overthrown in Egypt, you got the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamism, Muhammad Morsi. | |
| When Gaddafi was overthrown, you get warlords, you get civil war. | |
| When Syria was overthrown, you get ISIS. | |
| You get this guy al-Julani, who's literally from ISIS and Al-Qaeda. | |
| In Afghanistan, you still have the Taliban. | |
| If we overthrow Iran, and by the way, here's the other evidence. | |
| When Israel attacked Iran two weeks ago, they thought that the government would collapse and the people would rise up and they would overthrow the government. | |
| This is what they said for years. | |
| The opposite happened. | |
| The people rallied to the supreme leader. | |
| They said we're under attack from a foreign entity. | |
| They actually rallied in the streets and there were major funeral processions for the martyrs, the IRGC leaders that were killed. | |
| They rallied behind the government. | |
| If anything, if this government goes down, I don't know where you think we're going to get something better. | |
| We're going to get something more hardcore. | |
| The reason why it matters to articulate Iran's interests is to say if their worst fear is regime change, which is the credible fear of all leaders, every leader wants to stay in power. | |
| No leader wants to meet the fate of Gaddafi. | |
| No leader wants to be deposed and live in exile. | |
| If their credible fear is regime change and we pursue that in one form or another, and it's a little naive to say they're going to come together and have a new government, CIA and State Department and Israel will be all over that, just like they have in all these other operations. | |
| You're going to get hardliners. | |
| You're going to get IRGC commanders that said, our worst nightmare happened. | |
| Now we really got, now we're really in an apocalyptic war. | |
| Now we're really, this is the end times. | |
| The United States overthrew us. | |
| So I'm against research. | |
| I'm going to watch the clock here. | |
| Do you want to answer Nesh's question or just go back to Nesh? | |
| Was that what question? | |
| I really exact question. | |
| You had a question there. | |
| Oh, well, I've forgotten what the question was. | |
| 100% right. | |
| They united Iran with this shit. | |
| Your theme here a little bit because look, I mean, Nick, you're 26, and so it's understandable that your view of history, you keep saying history, regime change has a bad history. | |
| And the history you give is like four years old. | |
| You know, your compass is so narrow that you don't understand that I could give you 40 examples of regime change through history that have all worked out beautifully. | |
| Some recent, some more ancient. | |
| There was regime change in Spain. | |
| Franco fell. | |
| Spain became a democracy. | |
| You had autocrats all over South America. | |
| Those regimes all changed. | |
| Many of those countries are much better off as a result. | |
| The United States produced regime change in Mexico. | |
| There was a dictator named Santana. | |
| He was the one who actually came and fought against us in the Alamo and in Texas. | |
| Ultimately, Santana was overthrown. | |
| That was excellent regime change. | |
| I'm not even counting, of course, the Nazi regime in Japan in World War II. | |
| The Soviet Union was regime change of an excellent quality. | |
| So regime change sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't work. | |
| A lot of times it depends kind of on who does it and how. | |
| Now, here's a key point. | |
| And of course, you know, Alex has brought up Israel. | |
| I want to get into Israel. | |
| So I'm happy to do that. | |
| Here's the point I want to make. | |
| It is very much, in my view, in our interest and Israel to have regime change in Iran. | |
| And if Israel is willing to do it, I would say more power to them. | |
| I think Trump is stopping them. | |
| Trump says, no, I'm going to save the life of Khamenei. | |
| And so Trump, in this sense, I think, is more allergic to the risks of regime change and willing to keep the mullahs in power. | |
| But what's really important here is Israel is not controlling Trump. | |
| It's the other way around. | |
| If you leave it to Netanyahu, you leave it to the Knesset. | |
| They would like to overthrow the mullahs and they have the power to do it. | |
| And the fact that they're not doing it shows that, again, to use my old phrase, the great Satan is controlling the little Satan and not the other way around. | |
| There's another example just from today. | |
| Trump is basically pressuring Nedan Yahoo to have a 60-day ceasefire in Gaza. | |
| Now, first of all, Israel has every moral right to level Gaza. | |
| And what I mean by that is quite honestly, when a country attacks you, when you are invaded, just like if there's a home invasion, some guy comes into my house, rapes my wife, kills my daughter, kills my kids, and then he runs away and I chase after him. | |
| And of course, I chase his car down. | |
| I stop him. | |
| He jumps out of the car, grabs his own kids, and sticks them in front of him. | |
| And then he goes, don't shoot because women and children are in front of me. | |
| No, what you've done, you put your children in danger, first by invading my house, and second by using them as human shields. | |
| I am not under any moral strictures based on what you did to me. | |
| I have every right to attempt to destroy you. | |
| And the suffering of your women and children is the result of your actions and not mine. | |
| So my point is once you had October 7th, and October 7th, by the way, bankrolled by Iran, planned in Iran. | |
| Israel has every right, strategic, moral, political, to strike out at Gaza and to strike at Iran. | |
| And so the United States is the one that's tying their hands. | |
| And so once again, even with this Gaza treaty, you can see that the man in charge, the numero uno, is not Netanyahu. | |
| It's Trump. | |
| Okay, so I want Nick to be able to come back. | |
| I got to say something here. | |
| Dinesh, you're a great guy. | |
| I respect you. | |
| Love your films, interview 20 years. | |
| But the analogy of somebody breaking your house, raping and killing your wife and daughter, then you chase him down so he uses his kids. | |
| They're still innocent. | |
| And look, I get it, 50,000 dead in Gaza. | |
| The whole liberal media making it the biggest thing ever. | |
| I'm sad it happened. | |
| The left loves way more than that. | |
| It's like 400,000. | |
| But 377K, man. | |
| Israel's army. | |
| But to say then if somebody uses their own kids as human shields, I don't know if somebody killed my wife and daughter. | |
| They use their kids as human shields. | |
| I'd wait till they dropped the kids or I'd, you know, whatever. | |
| I just think it's an oversubhistoration. | |
| You wouldn't wait till they dropped the kids. | |
| You would look for a clean shot at them. | |
| But if you accidentally hit their kids, whose fault would it be? | |
| Yours or theirs? | |
| I get your point. | |
| That's fair, Touche. | |
| So go ahead, Nick. | |
| I'll stop interrupting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, forgive me, but I have to do this. | |
| You know, you said that I'm a young man and my view of history is so short. | |
| Well, let's talk about some of your history here. | |
| You were a big supporter of the war in Iraq. | |
| And I want to actually read and go back to what you said about it in 2003 and 2007, because I think this is fair. | |
| You said in 2003 that Saddam's support for terrorism, his attempt to acquire nuclear weapons, makes him an imminent danger to world peace and security. | |
| That was in 2003. | |
| Four years later, you said the important point about the wars is that 50 million Afghans and Iraqis are free. | |
| And for the first time in their history, they can control their own destiny. | |
| Liberals emphasize the negative and relish the failures of American foreign policy. | |
| Now, there's a lot of other quotes here, but this speaks to the kind of hubris of the neocons, of the interventionists, of advocates for regime change, which is just like in 2003, there is this alarmism. | |
| They support terrorism. | |
| They're building nuclear weapons. | |
| Now, both of those things turned out not to be true. | |
| There was no connection between al-Qaeda and Saddam. | |
| Saddam did not have nukes. | |
| Then there's this justification after the fact. | |
| Well, you know, it doesn't matter because it's going fine. | |
| Well, 20 years later, guess who took over Iraq? | |
| Iran. | |
| Iran filled the power vacuum. | |
| Guess who retook over Afghanistan? | |
| The Taliban. | |
| So, you know, you can talk about like Germany and Japan. | |
| I think those things are fundamentally different for starters because Japan attacked us first on our soil in Hawaii. | |
| I mean, that's fundamentally different. | |
| But in terms of regime change, this does harken back to Iraq. | |
| And I've seen your videos where you talk about the dissimilarities between the two situations. | |
| I think they're very similar. | |
| Now, as far as Iran, I don't even want to get into Gaza because that's a little bit, we can later, but I want to talk specifically about Iran. | |
| In one of your videos, you say, well, unlike Iraq, where you had to rely on government intelligence with Iran, we know about their facilities. | |
| We know where they are. | |
| We've seen the tunnels. | |
| We've seen the centrifuges. | |
| We know what they're doing. | |
| Well, isn't that sort of precisely the point? | |
| When the United States made the nuclear deal with Iran, they adhered to it for years. | |
| The deal was made in 15. | |
| And from 15 to 2018, the IAEA said they were in compliance with the deal. | |
| They had 24-hour monitoring. | |
| They had cameras. | |
| They had inspections. | |
| And they were in compliance with the deal. | |
| It wasn't until a year after Trump pulled out of the deal and forced all the other Europeans to pull out as well. | |
| And we reneged on our commitments. | |
| We pulled out and didn't give them sanctions relief. | |
| We, through secondary sanctions, forced the Europeans to pull out and they didn't get sanctions relief. | |
| It was only until 2019 that Iran started to gradually reneg on their commitments. | |
| And it went in succession where America killed Qasim Suleimani, which is one of their generals. | |
| Then Iran began to enrich without limitations. | |
| They enriched and they engaged in all nuclear activities without any kind of restrictions. | |
| It wasn't until 2021 when Israel attacked Natan's twice, cyber attacks and sabotage attacks, that Iran began to enrich to 60%. | |
| Every action has this equal and opposite reaction. | |
| Iran was a partner in 2001. | |
| Iran helped us build the Northern Alliance. | |
| They helped us put Kaiser or Karzai in power in Afghanistan. | |
| A few months later, George Bush calls them the axis of evil. | |
| This is how we treat Iran. | |
| Now, I'm not going to interrupt you. | |
| I'm just looking at the clock. | |
| You guys interrupt each other just every few minutes. | |
| Maybe I should just go bing. | |
| And the person interrupts you guys are so polite. | |
| Dinesh. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, first of all, I want to do a mea calpa here because I was wrong about the Iraq war. | |
| Not because I said Iraq had new. | |
| I'm sorry, but Iraq war. | |
| Not because I said Iraq had nuclear weapons. | |
| Course, you remember with George W. Bush, the claim was that they had these so-called weapons of mass destruction. | |
| Not quite the same as nukes, but the idea was it could be chemical weapons. | |
| It could be a weapon that could kill a large number of people. | |
| Now, this information, which was given to us from high levels in the U.S. government, I think was the first case of where we learned that we can't always trust the government. | |
| And we can't trust the government because these intelligence agencies have their own agenda. | |
| And this was a neocon scam. | |
| And I got to say, I might have been a little too deeply in the neocon world. | |
| I went for it. | |
| But unlike a lot of the neocons, I broke with them. | |
| Most of my former colleagues at AEI won't speak to me. | |
| I left the neocon camp, which is now basically the never Trump camp. | |
| And I came into the Trump camp because I think the Trump was based on the idea that, look, we've learned some valuable lessons from the Iraq war. | |
| And that is this idea of trying to occupy other countries is a great mistake. | |
| By the way, the United States had every right to blow up the Taliban, to chase them out of power. | |
| Those were the guys who supplied the monkey bars for 9-11. | |
| So if you're talking about a direct attack on the United States, yes, it was al-Qaeda, but the Taliban was a hospitable regime that trained them. | |
| What we should have done is turned to some rival tribe, some war. | |
| There are plenty of warlike tribes in Afghanistan and said, listen, we're going to turn it over to you. | |
| You keep kicking their ass from now on, and we're out of here. | |
| But we didn't do that. | |
| We went over there. | |
| We started conducting meetings and talking about women's rights and a whole bunch of nonsense. | |
| And the whole thing backfired on us. | |
| So that's a bitter lesson that we've learned. | |
| And I think I'm with you on that, Nick. | |
| All right. | |
| But Iran is a different animal. | |
| And I think this is the key. | |
| Iran is the one that is threatening Israel, not the other way around. | |
| What does Israel want out of Iran? | |
| You think Israel wants to go occupy Iran? | |
| Do you think Israel has designs on Iran? | |
| Israel has one of the smallest, most God-forsaken pieces of earth on the planet. | |
| They are just trying to hold onto it. | |
| And by the way, it's theirs. | |
| Now, what do I mean by that? | |
| This is a very important issue because how do you get a country? | |
| I mean, how are countries, how do you get the title deeds of a country? | |
| There are really only three ways. | |
| They fight for them. | |
| One way is you're the original inhabitants, right? | |
| Like the Native Americans are the original inhabitants. | |
| They go, it's ours. | |
| That's one way. | |
| The second way is there's some sort of a negotiation, a treaty. | |
| If someone gives it to you and you get it that way. | |
| A third way is conquest. | |
| That's how we got large parts of Mexico. | |
| That's how the United States now reaches from one end of the ocean to the other. | |
| We took a lot of it by force. | |
| So that's the third way. | |
| Most of the boundaries of most of the countries of the world are established by war and by nothing else. | |
| Now, interestingly, with America, you could say that on one side, the Native Americans have the right. | |
| They were here first. | |
| So they have the title deeds. | |
| And then you can say on the other side, well, we conquered them. | |
| We fought a war. | |
| They lost. | |
| That's that. | |
| So it's ours. | |
| But with Israel, all the arguments benefit Israel. | |
| They were the original inhabitants. | |
| They were there for 4,000 years going back to the time of Abraham. | |
| Number two, they were awarded Israel by the United Nations in 1948. | |
| And number three, they have fought multiple wars, at least three, 1948, 1967, 1973. | |
| They beat the combined invading armies of Syria, Jordan, Egypt. | |
| So the Arab world united against them. | |
| They kick their butts. | |
| And so whether you're looking at who's your original inhabitants or who took it by conquest. | |
| I didn't look at the clock. | |
| Like five minutes. | |
| So we're running over, Nick. | |
| I got to be fair. | |
| Nick, you got five minutes because I just let him run for five minutes. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| It was great. | |
| I was listening. | |
| Sorry, I got to go ahead. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, once again, it just gets back to the analytical framework for the conflict is that these are rational actors. | |
| And maybe we'll get into Israel's objectives. | |
| Iran wants a nuclear arsenal to deter an attack from the United States and Israel. | |
| I think that's a credible fear. | |
| The United States' interest is they do not want nuclear proliferation. | |
| So we don't want Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. | |
| We don't necessarily have an interest in regime change. | |
| Israel's strategic objective is to overthrow the government of Iran. | |
| And why? | |
| It goes back to the Laikoud party and their takeover of the government in the late 1970s. | |
| They witnessed what happened in the Camp David Accords, which is that Egypt got the Sinai back in exchange for peace. | |
| They witnessed some of the Israeli ministers try to negotiate with the Palestinians. | |
| They called it land for peace. | |
| We'll give you some of the West Bank in exchange for peace. | |
| We'll give Syria the Golan in exchange for peace was the idea. | |
| They thought that's what was going to happen. | |
| And these Lykudniks, the people that have been running Israel basically for 50 years, nearly uninterrupted, they said, we can't keep giving up land in exchange for peace. | |
| They said, we need to go on the offensive. | |
| This is in Oded Yanon's plan for the 1980s. | |
| He was an advisor to Ariel Sharon. | |
| This is in the clean break memo in 1996. | |
| And in both of these doctrines, and this is consistent throughout, you know, 20, 30-year period, they said we need to go on the offensive and we need to basically destroy all the big states that are supporting Palestine, all the big states that might pose a threat to Israel. | |
| And that is why they push for regime change against Saddam. | |
| That's why they push for destabilization of Syria. | |
| And ultimately, they saw Iran as sponsoring Hezbollah and the Shiite groups in southern Lebanon, and then eventually Hamas. | |
| And so Israel has an interest in what they call creating stateless. | |
| They don't want big, powerful regimes like Nasser's Egypt, like the Assad dynasty in Syria, like Gaddafi and Libya. | |
| They want small, manageable fiefdoms where they're going to dismember Libya into like three countries, dismember Syria into Druze, Alawite, and Sunni, dismember Iraq into Shiite, Kurdish, and Sunni. | |
| They want to do the same thing to Iran. | |
| And that is because, and I agree with you, Israel wants to be safe, but you characterize Israel as small and fledgling and just trying to hold on to their land. | |
| They're the only nuclear power, the most sophisticated, most powerful military and intelligence operation in the Middle East, as evidenced by this very one-sided conflict. | |
| And what they want to be safe is regional hegemony. | |
| In order to be safe from all threats, they want to make it so that there are no threats. | |
| That's why the road to Israeli safety and their right to exist runs through regime change, destabilization, and civil war. | |
| And so I'm saying, look, that's probably in their best interest, but it's not in ours. | |
| And so that's why I agree with Trump. | |
| We should pursue diplomacy with Iran and try to get them to give up their nuclear program with limitations and restrictions without regime change, which is unpredictable and has negative effects for us. | |
| Israel wants the regime change, and they want us to pick up the pieces and clean up after them, just as we did in all these other countries. | |
| And we deal with the terrorism and the hatred, and we deal with the high gas prices and all the rest of it. | |
| So that's the America first position. | |
| Restrain Israel from pursuing regime change, restrict Iran's nuclear program. | |
| You can use maximum pressure and Reagan doctrine to do it. | |
| I'm fine with that. | |
| But I think diplomacy is preferable and that's in our interest to try it. | |
| That's my position. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I want to go back to Dinesh here, and we're approaching 15 minutes of this. | |
| This is amazing. | |
| You guys stay as long as you want. | |
| I also want to get to questions from X. And I'll just say, because I'm not trying to throw this either way, I have complex views. | |
| I know it's all nuanced. | |
| I think both of you are making great points. | |
| And I'm public about that. | |
| I want to blow up Israel. | |
| And I also, you know, and I don't like the Mullahs, but I don't want to have war with Iran. | |
| I know most people don't even like it. | |
| My issue is we saw Netanyahu strike them first and drag us in. | |
| And look, I know that their proxies, Iran's been striking them in Lebanon and the West Banks and Gaza and with the Houthis. | |
| And I mean, no one can say started first. | |
| Okay. | |
| And Iran, you know, does make all these statements, you know, rhetorical. | |
| We're going to drive you in the ocean and blow you up and all the rest of it. | |
| Okay. | |
| So my larger sure, sure. | |
| Dinesh, I'm going to go to you. | |
| I just have it. | |
| I've been pretty good here. | |
| I just want to, and I got some questions coming up here very soon for both of you, and we're going to go to questions. | |
| But honing in, because both you guys are very smart, and I'd like to hear, not even, I mean, it's a debate, but also discussion. | |
| What do you think is about to happen? | |
| I know, Dinesh, you have amazing context. | |
| Trump today says twice at Allegheny Alcatraz that, oh, we got a deal Monday. | |
| You're going to love it. | |
| And Netanyahu's coming and all this. | |
| And usually Trump doesn't just bluff. | |
| That sounds really good. | |
| Then you have the Moolah's putting out a very rare fatua against Trembladan Yahoo on Sunday. | |
| So just in general, looking at that, but I will just say, Israel initiating the latest round and us coming into it a week into it, and then all of that. | |
| And then I could predict the media was going to say it didn't take out the sites. | |
| Clearly the sites were highly damaged or obliterated. | |
| But then did they hide fissile material? | |
| Then the Mullahs are, we're going to go all the way to Enrichment. | |
| We did hide it. | |
| And it's like to get out of this, the Moolah seem to do whatever it is keeps it going. | |
| It's very bizarre. | |
| So it's easy for me on like straight Western politics to know who the sides are, what the interests are. | |
| Man, I wish I was moderating this debate, bro. | |
| I really wish I was moderating this shit. | |
| I would do, dude, come on, man. | |
| As a moderator, I'm supposed to just have easy answers here. | |
| A lot of bizarre behavior. | |
| Why would the Mullahs put a fatto out? | |
| Well, because maybe they're about to fall. | |
| We're seeing some evidence. | |
| Their foreign minister on TV contradicting them, saying the nuclear sites were basically destroyed. | |
| So the intel I'm getting is they could fall. | |
| What happens if the Mulas are cornered then? | |
| And see, this just is a complex. | |
| When I hosted Nick with Destiny, that was way better because I had time rounds. | |
| What topic? | |
| Like, dude, come on, man. | |
| Fuck. | |
| Diametrically opposed to each other. | |
| And like Trump said, both sides don't know what the fuck they're doing. | |
| They've been fighting so long. | |
| I agree with that. | |
| How could generally gut level? | |
| Where do both of you see this going? | |
| We'll go to Dinesh first and finish up with Nick's response if you want. | |
| But then where do you see this going next? | |
| Can this be de-escalated? | |
| What are the paths out of this? | |
| Nidashazism. | |
| Yeah, the reason I keep anchoring our discussion, not just in history, but kind of in the facts on the ground, is because it's hard to have a debate when the facts are really fuzzy, right? | |
| So you mentioned, Alex, that Netanyahu strike struck first. | |
| But if it is true, if it is true that Iran was a driving force between behind October 7th, then Israel did not strike first. | |
| Israel struck second. | |
| Second of all, let's remember a lot of times, I mean, if we go back in history, not very far, you know, Hitler attacks Poland and Great Britain, Great Britain declares war on Germany. | |
| Japan attacks the United States at Pearl Harbor. | |
| Did we just go to war with Japan? | |
| No, we didn't. | |
| We sent Patton starts taking U.S. troops into Europe. | |
| We went after the Nazis, even though the Nazis did not attack us directly. | |
| It was the Japanese who did. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me turn to Nick. | |
| Nick says that it's the goal of Israel to somehow topple all the big, strong powers in the Middle East. | |
| And let's test if that's true. | |
| Which are the big, strong powers in the Middle East? | |
| And the answer is, certainly in the Muslim world, there are three. | |
| There is Saudi Arabia, there is Egypt, and there is Iran. | |
| These are the three big boys of the Middle East. | |
| And they are jostling, by the way, for power, the one against the other. | |
| Israel has excellent relations with two out of the three. | |
| Now, the only reason Israel doesn't have excellent relations with Iran is Iran continues to not only plot and scheme, but openly declare and fund military forces, Hezbollah, also Hamas, that are aimed ultimately at eradicating Israel from the map. | |
| That's the meaning of from the river to the sea. | |
| So Israel is willing to get along with powerful forces in the region. | |
| It's made friends with some of them. | |
| It gave back land to Egypt. | |
| It's on good terms with Saudi Arabia. | |
| I think it would be on good terms with Iran if Iran wasn't driving the aggression from its side. | |
| So I completely reject Nick's idea that somehow Iran is fighting a defensive war. | |
| Nobody wants to invade Iran, least of all Israel. | |
| Israel would like to have nothing to do with Iran. | |
| They've got a successful society on their own. | |
| Now, you're asking about Trump and kind of where all of this is going. | |
| And I think I want to highlight the simple point that, look, Trump is actually a kind of master of this kind of, well, I'm going to call it mafia diplomacy. | |
| By that, I mean that he acts like Don Corleone. | |
| He twists people's arms. | |
| He basically tries to pull everybody into line. | |
| And sort of this idea, number one, when Trump basically even started talking about the idea of striking the Iranian facilities, there was a massive scream on the part of the, let's call it the Nick Fuentes camp, but there were many others in it. | |
| This is disastrous. | |
| We're going to be in a war. | |
| We're going to have tremendous casualties. | |
| The Iranians are going to strike back at us. | |
| Just wait for it. | |
| None of this actually happened. | |
| So if I'm going to show a little modesty about Iraq, it would be good for Nick to admit that he and so many others were completely wrong about what the effect of Trump's strikes were going to be. | |
| Number two, Israel is a country of 10 million people or 12 million people. | |
| The United States has 350 million plus. | |
| Are you seriously telling me that Israel is controlling America? | |
| Let's stop there. | |
| You just got four minutes. | |
| Nick, then we're going to go to break and come back. | |
| I've got questions and then listeners have questions from ex. | |
| Nick, responding to that. | |
| Sure. | |
| So to address the first point, Saudi Arabia is not a major power in the Middle East. | |
| We give them a lot of weapons and things like that, but Saudi Arabia has a small population, mostly foreign workers. | |
| It's held together by this weird dynasty from 100 years ago because they sell oil. | |
| They couldn't even defeat the Houthis in Yemen. | |
| I mean, they were at war with the Houthis for 10 years with American backing. | |
| They said they were fighting al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. | |
| They couldn't beat back these guys. | |
| They're pirates effectively. | |
| So Saudi Arabia is not a major power. | |
| And what's more is they're effectively in a relationship with Israel already. | |
| They, like the Emirates, like Bahrain, are going to enter into the Abraham Accords. | |
| They're submitted to Israel. | |
| And that's the fate. | |
| If you are against the West, if you're against Israel and the United States, you get overthrown, you get regime changed, you get invaded, civil war, or you're like Egypt and Jordan, where you get bribed and become a Western puppet to Israel and Saudi Arabia wants to follow suit. | |
| So I would just say that. | |
| And that's obviously the case also because Netanyahu and other ministers in the Israeli government have said for 30 years they want regime change in Iran. | |
| That's just not even disputed. | |
| In the mid-1990s, they're calling for regime change in 2006. | |
| Netanyahu is calling for regime change. | |
| They're publishing videos all the time in Farsi and English saying the Iranian people need to rise up. | |
| It's just not even a question that they do want that. | |
| And they want that because Iran is a rival. | |
| Iran has one of the largest populations. | |
| It's often said about the Middle East. | |
| You've got three countries, Turkey, Egypt, Iran. | |
| The rest are tribes of flags. | |
| Iran has a big middle class, big economy, oil wealth. | |
| They have a lot of intelligent people. | |
| They're a threat to Israel's security and hegemony in the region. | |
| And that's why Israel wants to depose that country along with all the other ones with ambitions, whether they be Islamist or pan-Arabist. | |
| With regard to Israel, and we can maybe get into this topic because I think we sort of settled a lot of this other stuff. | |
| We're looping a bit. | |
| But to get into the question of Israel driving U.S. foreign policy, it's pretty clear. | |
| Trump initiated diplomacy with Iran in April. | |
| He had Netanyahu at the White House for talks about the tariffs, and he announced that he was going to engage Iran in negotiations over the nuclear program. | |
| That same day, Netanyahu went on TV and said the only deal we will accept is if we get to blow up Iran's nuclear program and if they follow the Libya model. | |
| The Libya model is where Libya gave up their nukes with inspections and then we regime changed them eight years later. | |
| And that was obviously a poison pill to blow up the talks. | |
| They said repeatedly just last week, the defense minister came out and said, we are pursuing decapitation of the supreme leader. | |
| And when asked, did you get permission from the United States? | |
| He said, we don't need permission on such matters. | |
| And I believe, of course, you absolutely do. | |
| I wish it was as you're describing, where we are in control of Israel and they're our client. | |
| This has never been the case. | |
| Israel was the driving force behind the road to the war in Iraq. | |
| They're the driving force behind the road to the war in Iran. | |
| And the question of, and this is the last thing, just briefly, was I wrong about the strikes in Iran? | |
| We're not in a war in Iran. | |
| Of course, we're in a war in Iran. | |
| Trump killed Suleimani in 2020. | |
| He comes back into office and picks up where he left off. | |
| Israel attacks Iran and then we bomb Fordo. | |
| And this is going to be the case in the future. | |
| Iran says they're not giving up enrichment. | |
| The United States says you have to have 0% enrichment. | |
| It's setting the stage for more strikes. | |
| We've been in a state of hostilities. | |
| Nick Fuentez, stay right there. | |
| We're going to take a break here. | |
| I'm going to ask both of you during the break of the producer as how long you want to stay. | |
| I'll go another 50 minutes. | |
| I'll go another hour and a half, two hours. | |
| Oh, five hours. | |
| This is riveting. | |
| And I think this is a really very professional intellectual debate. | |
| This is not people trying to make points for the other person. | |
| They're both very knowledgeable. | |
| Dinesh is a very former head of a federal agency, best-selling all their filmmakers, super scholar. | |
| Nick for 26 is this group of his politics. | |
| Agree with him. | |
| The guy's a phenomenon. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Any 26-year-old knows half what he knows. | |
| It's very refreshing to hear this. | |
| I'm not saying he's going over the audience's head. | |
| Our audience is way more advanced than most people. | |
| I imagine a lot of people, millions, watching on X right now. | |
| It's a big viral thing. | |
| I'm having to like a lot of what they're saying, like, remember it? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| So I'm having trouble following some of this with Dinesh, some of the things he's saying. | |
| And Nick, then I think about it and go, oh, yeah, that's true. | |
| So it was, you know, this is this is not baby time here. | |
| This is not, you know, real simple, mindless slogans. | |
| This is a real debate here. | |
| And this is what debates I think really should be, like the Lincoln Douglas debates. | |
| So we'll find out how long they want to stay. | |
| This is a whole other issue because I told the crew on the X Post asking, what are your questions when the debate launched? | |
| We can't find out of thousands of questions, maybe 10 that are pro-Israel. | |
| And I'm not, again, I don't want to just come on here and read anti-Israel stuff. | |
| I want to get both sides for a debate. | |
| We literally, which the poll numbers show the whole world's turning against Israel. | |
| And they got nuclear weapons. | |
| Yeah, because they're killing innocent kids. | |
| All right. | |
| So look, I'll give you guys some comments here while Alex talks. | |
| You know, number one, we showed that, you know, we did absolutely overthrow Mogadesi. | |
| And the thing here that, you know, the Sesus is saying, oh, well, 25 years later, well, since we overthrew him, we put in a Shah that was wildly unpopular. | |
| And the Shah basically raped the country for 25 years. | |
| And that's what led to the revolution. | |
| That's what he doesn't understand. | |
| He's like, oh, what? | |
| They just took like 25 years. | |
| No, the point is, is that they elected a guy. | |
| We came in with the Israelis, the Brits, and the Americans. | |
| Operation Ajax threw him out of power. | |
| And then that led to the Shah, who absolutely destroyed them of their resources for 20 plus years. | |
| That's what led to the Islamic Revolution of 1979. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I'm not trying to. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Sorry. | |
| You get two minutes before we go to break. | |
| I mean, go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was saying maybe what we can do is do a brief sort of summary of our positions for a couple of minutes. | |
| And then, you know, let's set a time and take questions and we can each get a chance to answer them. | |
| And, you know, it's, let's see, it's a little after eight Central Time. | |
| Why don't we go till nine if Nick's agreeable? | |
| I think we have sort of agreed we'll do two hours total. | |
| So I'm good with that. | |
| No, no, it sounds good. | |
| You know what I can do? | |
| Because I got no serious questions on X. I mean, it's just, I'll read some of these. | |
| I mean, they're good questions, but it's all like foaming at the mouth. | |
| You know, just whatever. | |
| The point is, I'll read them. | |
| I'm just being honest. | |
| Like, I wanted to get both sides. | |
| I'm not getting it. | |
| Well, we'll fire the phones up. | |
| But I want at least an hour. | |
| So let's go to 10 after 9. | |
| I'll get that both from you because I want to take a bunch of comments. | |
| Here's the toll-free number. | |
| Fire up the phone system. | |
| Never fear. | |
| The phones are here. | |
| We'll have people call and actually have some real questions. | |
| I'm not like, oh, look at Jones trying to get pro-Israel questions. | |
| No, I'm not just going to literally read 50 questions in a row anti-Israel. | |
| I want to get both sides for a real debate. | |
| So the toll-free number, we're firing the system up right now: 877-789-2539. | |
| 877-789-2539-877-789 Alex. | |
| But it shows you just two years ago, half the stuff would be pro-Israel. | |
| That's a whole nother issue with the poll numbers show, the world turning against Israel, which again, you hate Israel. | |
| They got nuclear weapons. | |
| They're not going away unless it's in Armageddon. | |
| 877-789-2539. | |
| Dinesh D'Souza is a best-selling author and one of the top documentary filmmakers in all time. | |
| Probably the number one documentary for actual grosses. | |
| Dinesh D. D'Souza, DineshSouza.com. | |
| And of course, you can find Nick Fuentez on Rumble where he dominates at NickJ. | |
| Fuentez on X, NicholasJFuentez.com. | |
| We're going to take a short little four-minute break and we're going to let both men have six minutes. | |
| That way they get plenty of time. | |
| All right. | |
| So, so yeah. | |
| And then the other thing, too, right? | |
| Because here's the other thing that we need to also like kind of get into. | |
| So, and Nick was talking about this, but like the this whole like, okay, they're doing commercials. | |
| This whole idea of like, you know, crazy radical Islamism is like, you know, so dangerous and everything else like this, and that the Iranians want to kill us, whatever. | |
| Look, bro, they don't give a fuck about the United States. | |
| They don't. | |
| It's our foreign policy that gets us in trouble because we sit there and we support Israel and we prop up Israel. | |
| We give them the weapons. | |
| 70% of Israel's weapons, guys, come from us. | |
| They would not be able to defend themselves and do things that they do had it not been for the United States. | |
| They don't give a shit about us, man. | |
| I'm telling y'all, bro. | |
| They don't give a shit about us. | |
| They give a shit because we prop up Israel and Israel is constantly trying to put Mossad agents in there in their fucking country, get them killed, do regime change, do all this bullshit, do these strikes, violate ceasefires. | |
| So that's what it really comes down to. | |
| Also, he mentioned that he was like, you know, notice how, I don't know if you guys noticed it, but like Dinesh was like, oh, yeah, I made a mistake with Iraq. | |
| You know, I was a neocon there, but I left the neocon camp. | |
| But then look at him. | |
| He's advocating for war with Iran. | |
| So he never really changed. | |
| Falcon! | |
| Punch! | |
| Oh, yeah, like, yeah, I'm not a neocon. | |
| I left that camp, but he's over here advocating for war. | |
| He's like, yeah, Israel should go ahead and attack Iran and kill everybody. | |
| Bro, what the fuck is that? | |
| That's like an L take, dude. | |
| And look, honestly, at the end of the day, if Israel wants to go ahead and fucking squirt the earth and do what they want to do, let them do it on their own. | |
| Let them do it on their own. | |
| We don't need to get involved. | |
| We don't need to get involved because regime change is going to be very fucking taxing. | |
| It's going to be very difficult to do. | |
| We're going to have to put boots on the ground. | |
| And like I told y'all before, we put roughly 200,000 soldiers, boots on the ground in Iraq with a smaller military, a smaller country. | |
| And we did airstrikes for like three weeks before. | |
| Now, Iran's a bigger country with a more capable military. | |
| It's going to be a bloodbath if we're to put boots on the ground. | |
| So no, man, we're not going to do that shit. | |
| And then, yeah, like to not admit, like, I don't know if you guys caught, Dines didn't want to admit that Israel runs our foreign policy. | |
| He said that, oh, we're considered the big Satan, so we really run shit. | |
| No, we don't, bro. | |
| No, we don't. | |
| If America ran shit, right, as much as he claims, we would be able to control Israel. | |
| We wouldn't be having them do all this crazy shit. | |
| They're killing kids every single day, guys. | |
| The IDF killed like 100 kids earlier today. | |
| They're killing kids every fucking day. | |
| You guys think the U.S. government wants to be involved in that? | |
| No. | |
| But it makes us look bad and we have to run cover for them. | |
| And since they have such strong lobbyists in America, where you can't even be a politician unless you talk about the Israeli lobby being awesome, they have like, they're impervious. | |
| Now, people are finally starting to wake up now and say, fuck Israel. | |
| But guys, it took decades. | |
| Ever since Linda B. Johnson, we've been a pro-Israel country since 1963. | |
| November 22nd, 1963, the United States became the United States of Israel. | |
| Trying to tell y'all, man, when they swore Linda B. Johnson in after John F. Kenny was killed, he was the last president that stood up to Israel's bullshit and they killed his ass. | |
| So, bro. | |
| Anyway, let me, they're still running ads. | |
| I'm gonna read some of these chats. | |
| How can Israel do fuck all without us? | |
| They seem to know, they never seem to articulate that. | |
| They're nothing without us. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And they don't listen to us. | |
| That's the point. | |
| Nick starts to coke with points. | |
| Alex, time for a break. | |
| Okay. | |
| Bro, what the fuck is Alex doing? | |
| His moderation is ruining a quad of the show. | |
| The thing that sucks here, what Alex should have done was have prompts. | |
| Okay. | |
| Is our foreign policy conducted by Israel? | |
| Bam. | |
| Let them get three rounds. | |
| Cool, done. | |
| Is Israel dragging us into a war with Iran? | |
| Bam, three rounds. | |
| Next, should the United States get involved and to what level? | |
| Bam. | |
| Done. | |
| And then you can open it up for a fire round after that. | |
| But the fact it's very disorganized, Chad. | |
| I don't know if you guys noticed. | |
| Very disorganized. | |
| Kind of just letting them talk. | |
| That's why they're going into history and all this other shit. | |
| Alex didn't give clear parameters. | |
| What he should have done. | |
| This is what I do in all my debates. | |
| We're going to cover these three. | |
| These are the three prompt questions. | |
| These are the four prompt questions. | |
| Three rounds each topic per person. | |
| That's what he should have done. | |
| But he didn't do that, bro. | |
| That's why I meant, that's why niggas got to give me the moderator, bro. | |
| This is why I'm the best moderator, bro. | |
| Some of you stupid ass niggas in the chat. | |
| Myron, you're not even going to do a great merit. | |
| You're going to be a better moderator. | |
| Really, nigga? | |
| You see what's going on here? | |
| Stupid fucks? | |
| Some idiots in the chat say, Myron, I was a better moderator than you. | |
| Have you seen me moderate debates, dumbass? | |
| The best moderator there is. | |
| In the beginning, so why doesn't Nick go first for six and I'll go for six and then we'll go to questions. | |
| Perfect. | |
| So, and then I have one question after that, but Nick, go ahead. | |
| Yep, sounds good to me. | |
| So to sum up sort of what we've been talking about so far, the question is, what is America first? | |
| What's putting America first? | |
| I'm not pro-Iran. | |
| I'm not an isolationist, or I'm not even necessarily opposed to the United States engaging other countries abroad. | |
| What I am opposed to is a policy that isn't in our interest. | |
| And I think that regime change is something that historically in the Middle East never goes our way. | |
| It leads to chaos, civil war, ethnic cleansing, failed states, worse regimes than we got before. | |
| I think the U.S. interest in Iran is to prevent them from acquiring a nuclear bomb. | |
| I don't think they're pursuing one right now. | |
| I think they have a latent threat to deter regime change from Israel. | |
| And I think that on the flip side of that, Israel has been pushing for regime change in Iran like they have in virtually every other country for 30 years. | |
| That's why the America First position, how do we balance these two competing states, which are they both have their religious zealotry, they both have their share of terrorism. | |
| Neither of them are the United States. | |
| How do we balance those competing forces in the Middle East? | |
| I think we restrain Israel from pursuing regime change in Iran. | |
| I think we make a deal with Iran to restrict their nuclear activity. | |
| And that comes from a deep respect and humility about the nature of regime change, the size of Iran, the undertaking that regime change would be. | |
| And with respect to what our own foreign policy is, you know, I think that we had a nuclear deal with Iran and it was going well. | |
| They were abiding by it. | |
| We had monitoring. | |
| We had 24-7 cameras. | |
| We knew what they were doing. | |
| We have engaged Iran in good faith before. | |
| They've demonstrated by telegraphing strikes and through calibrating them that they're rational, that they can be patient strategically. | |
| And I think that we should attempt to do that again. | |
| I think that Trump and Biden both tried to do that over the past 12 years. | |
| They've been repeatedly sabotaged by Israel. | |
| Their dream is to drag us into a confrontation where we fight their regime change war for them. | |
| And I think that's something that serves only the interest of Israeli hegemony and not the interest of American strategic withdrawal and removal from the Middle East so that we could focus on our real rival, which is China. | |
| So that's kind of my big picture view. | |
| And it's based on fundamental assumptions about the nature of Iran's regime and what Iran wants. | |
| And the same is true about Israel, what the nature of the Israeli regime is and what they want. | |
| And so that's a summary of what I think the America first position is in this conflict. | |
| All right. | |
| So you only went for like less than three minutes. | |
| That's just Susan. | |
| Yeah, I'll try to keep it brief as well. | |
| I've been trying to sort of figure out Nick Fuentes as this debate has been going on. | |
| And I've come to a kind of startling conclusion. | |
| And I mean this only tentatively because I don't know enough about Nick. | |
| But from what I'm hearing, basically Nick Fuentes is a Democrat. | |
| And what that means is that he can't be America first because he is echoing all the tired, discredited, have faith in the goodwill of our enemies, have faith in treaties. | |
| This is what Democrats said throughout Reagan, throughout the Cold War. | |
| Let's trust the Russians. | |
| They can be, they're trustworthy. | |
| They want peace too, don't they? | |
| And now, you know, we have Nick and he's like, you know, we had a deal. | |
| Well, it was Obama's deal, remember? | |
| You think Obama was a good guy? | |
| You think Obama was America first? | |
| What do you think Obama was up to? | |
| America last. | |
| Obama's idea was let's strengthen our enemies and undermine our friends. | |
| Why do you think he got rid of Mubarak in Egypt? | |
| Because he was an ally of the United States. | |
| And then we got the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt. | |
| That was not, Obama is not the same as Jimmy Carter. | |
| Jimmy Carter was an idiot. | |
| He was an income poop. | |
| We'll give him the presidential nincompoopery award. | |
| Obama's malevolent. | |
| Obama represents ultimately, if you follow what Obama says, it's basically what our enemies want and not what we want. | |
| And so, notice, Nick, how close your position is to Obama. | |
| The Iranians are reasonable. | |
| The Iranians don't have any imperialistic ambitions. | |
| They don't have any real ill will toward Israel. | |
| Their militarization is purely defensive. | |
| We can make a peaceful deal with them. | |
| The only thing you didn't say is we should give them a whole bunch of money. | |
| I guess that's your one difference with Obama: you wouldn't give them the pallets of cash that Obama turned over. | |
| But otherwise, you're saying pretty much the same thing. | |
| Now, here's what I'm saying, which is the opposite. | |
| In the world, America has allies and we have enemies. | |
| Our enemies, our rivals, they're adversaries. | |
| They wish us ill. | |
| They would do regime change over here if they could. | |
| And who are some of those people? | |
| Well, China, to some degree, Russia, certainly Iran. | |
| And so, any, I mean, if you read Klauswitz, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, the whole idea is you want to weaken your enemies and strengthen your friends. | |
| That's what America first means. | |
| It means promoting American interests in the world. | |
| And you seem to be promoting the opposite. | |
| You seem to be saying, well, enemies aren't that bad, and our friends aren't our real friends. | |
| Why don't we put some pressure on our friends? | |
| And why don't we trust our enemies more? | |
| I mean, this is basically straight out the logic of the Democratic Party. | |
| It's been disproven time and time again. | |
| And I think you're wrongly drawing lessons from the Iraq war that are basically turning you into a 26-year-old Obama. | |
| Okay, so I said six-minute closing comments, but Nick went less than three. | |
| You just went less than three. | |
| So let's keep going here. | |
| Nick, I'm sure you want to respond to that. | |
| Yeah, I didn't really expect where you were going with that, but in retrospect, I should have. | |
| When you said this is tentative and I, you know, I've just met you. | |
| I thought maybe it was going to be positive, but I should have known it was going to be, he's a Democrat. | |
| It seems just a very strange thing that the moral universe you live in seems to be based on partisanship. | |
| It's Republicans and Democrats, like the KKK, the Nazis, Iran, like every ideology that's against like America and Israel's interests can be can be kind of molded into this like Democrat Party narrative. | |
| The thing is about Democrats and Republicans, I don't think there's a big difference. | |
| We have the same national security apparatus. | |
| Obama had the same defense secretary as Bush. | |
| And we maintain very much a similar foreign policy under Obama that we did under Bush. | |
| And then again, under Trump, Biden, and then Trump again, I think we have a deep state: the Pentagon, CENTCOM, National Security Council, the directors of the intelligence, the IC. | |
| I mean, all these people are permanent bureaucrats. | |
| I don't think there's a lot of daylight between Republicans and Democrats. | |
| I think that's a huge distinction. | |
| I wouldn't say, I don't know what that means to be a Democrat. | |
| I'm a Catholic. | |
| I'm a reactionary. | |
| I'm in favor of immigration moratorium. | |
| I voted for Trump in 16. | |
| Like, I don't know where you get off saying I'm a Democrat other than that. | |
| I think we should pursue diplomacy. | |
| And by the way, it's not based on good faith towards our enemies, like Iran or Russia or China for that matter. | |
| It's based and anchored again in foreign policy realism. | |
| I'm a realist. | |
| I'm not a liberal internationalist or a liberal globalist where I believe there's a world of friendly democracies and autocratic foes. | |
| I would say that Israel is similarly a foe. | |
| Israel spies on Americans. | |
| Israel has planned and perpetrated false flag attacks against Americans in the past. | |
| When 9-11 happened, B.B. Netanyahu said it's a good thing because now we can sympathize with what they go through. | |
| And they looked at that as a gift because they thought that we would support them against the Palestinians and then we would support them against their other rivals in the region. | |
| You know, so this idea that we have friends and foes and Israel's part of the Avengers and the Iran is part of the bad guys. | |
| I think this is just juvenile and childish. | |
| And it's like I'm debating Fox News, this kind of stuff about. | |
| Okay, so since we went off the debate form, which is fine, Dinesh, counter that. | |
| And then back to Nick response back. | |
| But I have a few questions for you that I want to go to callers. | |
| I don't want to go to comments on X. But Dinesh, anything back? | |
| Yeah, the polarization of the world is not the result of some sort of ideological fantasy. | |
| It's a simple reality. | |
| You can see it in the animal kingdom. | |
| If there are two strong animals that are in a herd, they will fight each other for leadership. | |
| If there are two powerful countries in the world, they will become rivals. | |
| And the small countries around them will basically take sides. | |
| And you will begin to see this kind of polarization. | |
| So, survival of the fittest. | |
| It's not survival. | |
| It's a description of a power struggle that drives international relations. | |
| And you'd be very naive if you don't see that force is at the bottom of international politics. | |
| Now, domestically, American politics is divided generally into two camps. | |
| Now, I realize that Nick wants to say, oh, they're just the same, but just think of the stupidity of saying that, because if they're just the same, it would make no difference if Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan won the 1980 election. | |
| I honestly believe that if Reagan wasn't in power for two terms, the Soviet Union might not have collapsed. | |
| In a sense, Nick is saying he voted for Trump in 16, but it didn't really matter. | |
| It wouldn't have mattered if Hillary was president because Hillary would have been pretty much the same as Trump. | |
| And similarly, Nick is saying now that he wouldn't mind really if Kamala Harris won the 2024 election, because after all, the country would be pretty much the same because the two parties are a uniparty. | |
| And as to quote him, these are meaningless distinctions. | |
| Well, I think the whole idea of America first, of MAGA, of Trump is based on the idea that, look, yes, there are common forces. | |
| The intelligence agencies have been a malign influence in both parties. | |
| And there are, of course, there is a kind of drinking at the swamp establishment and Republicans and Democrats are part of that. | |
| But nevertheless, there are distinctions that really matter. | |
| This country already in just a few months is very different than it would be if Kamala Harris, the border would not be secure. | |
| We wouldn't be looking at making these tax cuts permanent. | |
| We wouldn't be looking at 10,000 new border agents. | |
| And on and on it goes. | |
| We would be dealing with the trans phenomenon, would be shoved down our throats. | |
| Probably, Nick, you and Alex would still be thrown off social media. | |
| So the Trump phenomenon matters. | |
| Trump has made a difference. | |
| I'm not saying that Trump is not open to criticism. | |
| I'm not saying that MAGA means some kind of a, we all have to follow Trump like the Pied Piper. | |
| But what I am saying is that Trump has proven far more often to be right than wrong. | |
| And if I'm choosing to be the full-time, thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Brief comeback from Nick. | |
| I think I'm going to go with Trump. | |
| All right. | |
| I understand. | |
| Nick, quick comeback. | |
| I got a couple of questions for you guys. | |
| I don't want to go to questions from the audience. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, as far as all of this is concerned, Trump and Biden and Kamala and all of that, I would say yes. | |
| I don't think it's even controversial at this point to say that there really is no distinction, especially when it concerns matter of foreign policy. | |
| I mean, Biden gave Israel $20 billion last year when Israel was in peril, when Israel was fighting this war in Gaza and against the Houthis and Hezbollah. | |
| It was Biden last year in April that gave Israel $20 billion, which is a huge military aid package. | |
| And Biden showed up when Iran retaliated against Israel in April of last year, and then again in October of last year, and even earlier when Israel initiated these provocations earlier in July and in April of 24. | |
| It was Biden that deployed the carriers to protect Israel and shoot down all the incoming missiles from Iran and from Hezbollah and from the Houthis and actually offensively bombed them, bombed the Houthis, bombed the Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria. | |
| And for all people like to say, you know, the Democrats are abandoning our friends and empowering our enemies. | |
| No, actually, the opposite is true. | |
| You know, Biden gave this huge aid package to Ukraine, our big ally. | |
| They gave a huge aid package to Israel, our big ally. | |
| So I think that whether we had Kamala or Trump, we would be engaging in strikes against Iran right now. | |
| I don't think anyone even doubts that slightly. | |
| And so the question, again, what is America? | |
| I don't care about being Republican and Democrat. | |
| It means nothing to me. | |
| I'm independent. | |
| I'm America first. | |
| It's a question of what's in our interest. | |
| And you can say, you can appeal to this tribalism and say, you know, you sound like Jimmy Carter. | |
| Okay, that's 50 years ago. | |
| What's in America's interest is not another regime change war, no matter our level of involvement. | |
| It's too unpredictable. | |
| It's too much chaos. | |
| There's no guarantee we'll get something better or something that isn't horribly worse. | |
| This is what Israel wants. | |
| This is not what we want. | |
| We want nuclear nonproliferation. | |
| They want regime change. | |
| We should have nonproliferation. | |
| Okay. | |
| Now, again, it's great. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| I want to go to comments, questions. | |
| This is huge. | |
| People are millions are tuning in right now. | |
| Just on X alone, millions everywhere else. | |
| This is a real raw debate, folks. | |
| When you see corporate media, the questions are already prepared. | |
| It's been planned for months or weeks. | |
| This is real unfiltered. | |
| None of us talk before the show other than text messages. | |
| Hey, are you ready to come on the show? | |
| That's it. | |
| So this is raw. | |
| This is what it's all about. | |
| This is real media. | |
| We're so blessed to be here. | |
| So thankful the crew. | |
| So blessed for all the listeners and viewers tuning in and the clips of this going viral everywhere. | |
| This is what it's all about. | |
| Let me ask you both this question. | |
| I know you're both pundits and both analysts and you have your views. | |
| And I think you both come from a position of realism and integrity that you believe what you're saying. | |
| We all see the rose colored darklies, but we believe what we're saying. | |
| Sometimes we're a little bit wrong. | |
| And me, I'm mostly right, maybe. | |
| But I want you to both do. | |
| And basically, as a favor to me, do what I do. | |
| And I know you both do this because Nick said, I think Trump very soon will hit Iran when he was running for office the last time, eight, nine months ago, right before he got elected. | |
| He thought this would be a big crisis. | |
| And I know, you know, Dinesh has made a lot of predictions come true. | |
| I want to ask you both, first Dinesh, then Nick, gut level. | |
| I think Trump thought he did the right thing, believed he was shutting this down, putting back the nuclear program. | |
| The left and others won't do that. | |
| They want to keep it going, which then adds the war. | |
| The Moodles are saying, don't worry, we're going to red shit. | |
| They're going to stop us. | |
| I see this as the beginning of quagmire. | |
| I have a really bad feeling about where it's going. | |
| So here's the simple question, which is a super complex question. | |
| The most simple questions are. | |
| It looks simple, but they're not. | |
| How do you gut level see this ending, Dinesh? | |
| This is regime change, wider war, Iran rolling over. | |
| Gut level, how do you see this ending and how would you like to see it end? | |
| And what do you think we as the American people can do to have this end in a peaceful way? | |
| All right. | |
| I think that the Trump strike on the three nuclear facilities was a brilliant move because it was basically what it was is essentially an overnight job. | |
| We fly over there, we clobber their nuclear facilities, we don't suffer a single casualty. | |
| They don't even know we're there. | |
| They have no control over their own skies. | |
| We had all these fighter planes, by the way, accompanying those B-2 bombers because B-2 bombers can't defend themselves. | |
| But not a single fighter plane was really needed. | |
| They ended up just flying sort of decoratively around the B-2 bombers for no good reason. | |
| And then they all came back safely. | |
| And what is the result? | |
| A crippling of Iran's nuclear facilities. | |
| So look, whether they were at 80%, whether they were getting there, whether they were almost there, whether they were weeks away, whether they were months away, who cares? | |
| Their program has now suffered a devastating setback. | |
| And even though initially the media tried to deny it, they've now pretty much come out and admitted it. | |
| Machiavelli says something very profound. | |
| People can get revenge for small injuries, but they cannot get revenge for large injuries. | |
| And what that means is that by and large, when you go poke somebody, they're going to come back and poke you back in the eye. | |
| On the other hand, if you give such a devastating blow from which they can never recover, they are too preoccupied with their own survival to even worry about you anymore. | |
| It's going to take a long time for Iran to get back on its feet. | |
| Now, I think that the mullahs are going to try to survive, to hang in there, to slowly rebuild their power. | |
| And so this is actually the downside of striking and then leaving, in a sense, sort of snatching partial victory out of the jaws of total victory. | |
| Because I don't think we're very far away from the mullahs essentially running away. | |
| There were even reports that some of the top Iranian officials were already starting to leave the country. | |
| And just before the regime falls, we go, oh, well, we better stop. | |
| You know, we don't really care about, quote, regime change. | |
| And so for the moment. | |
| Yeah, but that's because Trump doesn't want to quagmire, Dinesh. | |
| Who knows who's going to come in the vacuum? | |
| We never know, Alex. | |
| But the point is, when you have these dangerous situations in the world, you have to make a judgment call about whether what's going to come later is better or worse. | |
| We have certain red lines. | |
| One of them is we're not committing troops. | |
| We're not going to commit troops unless Iran attacks U.S. borders or U.S. bases. | |
| If they do that, then Trump's, you know, we're not in a war has to be set up. | |
| Let me realize this now that we're deep into this. | |
| I got a few questions, Dinesh. | |
| If the Moodles are so insane and they just put a fato out, which goes to that side of the question, on the other side, they did like in 2020 when they attacked the Iraq base and called Trump before and said, we're going to launch 18 missiles in the desert. | |
| And they did as a face-saving event. | |
| They did that again this time, called ahead when they were going to hit Qatar and did that. | |
| So they're so crazy. | |
| Why did they then telegraph all this and try to de-escalate? | |
| Because like I said, come back to the quote from Machiavelli: when somebody is down on their back and you're standing on top of them with your foot on their chest, they're going to behave themselves wonderfully. | |
| They're going to be very, see, Iran did not actually want to strike us because they realized, of course, the logic. | |
| If they strike us, we're going to strike them 10 times harder. | |
| And so they were like good pussycat. | |
| They basically were like, we'll behave ourselves. | |
| We'll pretend to attack you and you pretend to go ouch, ouch, ouch. | |
| I mean, this is actually the definition of total victory. | |
| If you get into an MMA fight with some guy and at the end, he goes, listen, I want to convince my family that I'm not a wimp. | |
| So I'll pretend to throw a punch at the very end and you pretend that you're bending over, even though you've clearly won the fight. | |
| What does that tell you? | |
| And so you say maybe the FATAWA is that as well. | |
| How do we know some of their followers don't follow that order? | |
| We don't know that. | |
| And I think we should take preparations to meet. | |
| I don't have, I don't, I'm not a believer, as Nick is in Iranian goodwill. | |
| I think if they put fatwas on you, there are going to be radical Muslims who are going to be willing to carry it out. | |
| There are probably some of those in this country. | |
| So we need to be taking preemptive or precautionary steps to make sure that we have to get everything out. | |
| So, so, yeah, Nick, Nick, that's a lot to unpack. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Yeah, to answer the original question, where this is going, I think we're trapped. | |
| I think we're trapped in a situation where now it's inevitable that there will be more tension. | |
| There will be more tension. | |
| There will be more conflict. | |
| We're not getting out of this. | |
| And it basically comes down to this. | |
| We had a deal with Iran. | |
| We overcame decades of distrust and decades of suspicion from Iran. | |
| We made a deal that satisfied Russia, China, the E3 countries, the European, France, Germany, and the UK, and the United States. | |
| We had a deal with monitoring, with verification, with 24-7 cameras, like Dinesh himself said. | |
| We know everything about their program because they disclosed it to us. | |
| And the IAEA report said they had no weapons program since at least 2009, but probably not meaningfully since 2003. | |
| So we had a deal. | |
| Everybody was playing by the rules for years. | |
| Trump pulled us out and now they don't trust us again. | |
| Trump killed their general. | |
| Now they hate us. | |
| Then Trump engages them in diplomacy and he comes back to power. | |
| And there's all this fanfare about they're going to make a deal. | |
| We might be able to make terms with the United States. | |
| And what does Trump do? | |
| He says we knew the whole time this was a ploy for a sneak attack by Israel to attack Iran. | |
| Then we come in and bomb them. | |
| And contrary to what Dinesh says, if there's some new report, I haven't seen it. | |
| On the contrary, U.S. intelligence, Europeans, Iran, and Israel all have said we did not destroy Fordo. | |
| We didn't even destroy their nuclear stockpile. | |
| They said we weren't even trying to destroy their nuclear stockpile. | |
| So now what they're saying is Iran still has a stockpile. | |
| They have centrifuges we don't know about. | |
| Iran says we're never giving up enrichment. | |
| They're moving heavy equipment to Fordo to rebuild it. | |
| And what are the Israelis saying? | |
| The Israelis are saying we're going to treat Iran like Lebanon, which means we're going to bomb them all the time with no restriction. | |
| So, you know, this ceasefire, Israel never makes good on ceasefires. | |
| They made one with Hamas. | |
| They didn't implement the second phase. | |
| They made one with Hezbollah. | |
| They bombed them throughout. | |
| None of them trust Israel. | |
| None of them trust us. | |
| And now, if we don't make a deal with Iran, there really is only one other option. | |
| Iran doesn't trust us. | |
| Russia didn't bail them out. | |
| They're clearly vulnerable to Israeli intelligence. | |
| The only deterrent that they can get to prevent further hostilities, you know, now they're talking about pulling out of the NPT and maybe getting a nuclear weapon. | |
| So as far as I'm concerned, our fate is sealed. | |
| And Israel drove, they orchestrated this every step of the way. | |
| They engineered the confrontation in April last year. | |
| They attacked Iranian generals in Syria. | |
| They provoked the other confrontation in July. | |
| They killed the leader of Hamas in Tehran. | |
| Nick, I want to go to comments and questions now. | |
| Both of you are making very interesting points. | |
| Quick announcement. | |
| Can I just do a really quick one? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Just a really quick, just a quick response, because it seems to me that Nick has been moving in a kind of crab fashion, saying one thing, contradicting it, then saying the opposite, then saying the opposite again. | |
| And here's what I mean. | |
| At the beginning of this debate, Nick, you said emphatically, Iran has every good defensive reason to want to build a nuclear weapon. | |
| You said Israel has nuclear weapons. | |
| And so Iran, in order to counter Israel, needs to have a nuclear weapon on its own. | |
| Then you said, but even though it's in their interest to build a nuclear weapon, albeit defensively, somehow a treaty is going to convince them not to do it. | |
| It's kind of like saying it's in my interest to do something, but because you put a piece of paper in front of me, I'm going to go, gee, I'm not going to do that because I'm such a nice guy. | |
| No, if it's in Iran's interest to build a nuclear weapon, they're going to try to do it openly or covertly, but they're going to try to do it one way or the other, according to your own logic. | |
| Then you said, we tried to bomb their facility. | |
| And you said, but you know what? | |
| We probably didn't do a very good job. | |
| And a lot of their nuclear facilities are in place. | |
| And in fact, they might just turn around and build a nuclear weapon. | |
| Now, you just told us that Iran has no desire to build a nuclear weapon. | |
| You told us earlier that it's against Islam. | |
| They've made some Islamic proclamation against it. | |
| But now you're telling us, first of all, that there were obviously some fairly advanced facilities. | |
| We tried to bomb them, but unsuccessfully. | |
| So they're still in place. | |
| And gee, if the Iranians get really mad, they can now just get together and put that nuclear bomb together. | |
| Well, obviously, that means if it's in their interest to do it, and they're not that far from doing it now, we were certainly right to bomb them. | |
| If anything, we should have had a second round of bombing to make sure we finish the job. | |
| According to the-keep you guys online, I want to go to these comments. | |
| You guys got to say we knew that. | |
| Callers and comments. | |
| But Nick, back to my question, respond to Nash. | |
| Quick summation. | |
| How do you see this ending? | |
| And I know you have a crystal ball, but currently, where's this going? | |
| Regime, like I said, I think we're trapped. | |
| I think we're trapped. | |
| It's going to end in regime change one way or the other. | |
| As far as the apparent contradictions, I said at the start that they are engaging in nuclear hedging. | |
| And what does that mean? | |
| It means that they have the infrastructure, the expertise, and the technology to make a bomb if the security situation demands it. | |
| The reason they probably could have developed a bomb by 2012. | |
| The earliest estimate says that Iran could have had a bomb. | |
| They had all the pieces in place by 2010. | |
| And in the longest-term timeline, 2012 is when they could have had a bomb. | |
| Why did they not do that? | |
| Because getting a bomb would invite aggression, because the United States has a non-proliferation doctrine. | |
| But not having any latent ability would be weakness. | |
| And that would also invite aggression. | |
| Countries that don't have nukes can be destroyed by countries that have them. | |
| So that's why it's hedging. | |
| It's hedging their vessels. | |
| Wait, wait, wait. | |
| Let me finish. | |
| Let me finish. | |
| Let me finish because this is really important. | |
| So the reason why the deal changes this dynamic is because if we can give Iran confidence and assurances, we are not going to invade you. | |
| We don't have designs on overthrowing you. | |
| Then Iran can have restrictions on their nuclear program and they can ensure us they're not going to weaponize. | |
| I said there's other countries that do this too. | |
| Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, they're hedging as well. | |
| Why do they have nuclear programs? | |
| North Korea and China. | |
| Now, the reason they don't have nuclear bombs is because they can rely upon the United States to deter attacks from North Korea and China. | |
| If that changed, it would be in their interest to develop a bomb. | |
| So it has to do with their level of confidence. | |
| It has to do with the current security situation. | |
| So they have the ability to make one. | |
| Getting one would invite aggression. | |
| Not having one makes them vulnerable. | |
| Now, we had a chance to make a deal that was based on mutual trust and assurances. | |
| We blew up that trust. | |
| That's why Iran started gradually increasing their stockpile of highly enriched uranium in reaction to cyber attacks, assassinations against their scientists, their generals, attacks against their nuclear plants. | |
| And then, wait, wait, last thing, last thing, last thing, super important. | |
| When we bombed Iran, that's their worst nightmare. | |
| So that's why now they might be contemplating, oh, well, the breakout time is here. | |
| The security situation has changed. | |
| We need a nuke. | |
| We're imminently in danger of being overthrown. | |
| And that's really important. | |
| I want to be clear. | |
| I've been very good for the last hour and 45 minutes. | |
| You guys are doing a great job, by the way. | |
| I just agree with you, Nick. | |
| And the CIA came out months after I said this and said attacking them may accelerate them towards finishing their bomb with nuclear hedging. | |
| So let me ask Dinesh D'Souza that, and we got to go to these questions and comments. | |
| I'm making you guys stay. | |
| We have to do it. | |
| Bunch of callers, bunch of comments. | |
| What about that issue that this accelerates them into that? | |
| I think that is common sense, Dinesh. | |
| Yeah, but there is a little bit of unrealism to it. | |
| And some of the times, I think what happens is we get caught in this spider web of analytics. | |
| This is Iran's motive. | |
| They're hedging. | |
| They're, you know, as if we're listening to some stock trade. | |
| I got a hedge here. | |
| It's very simple. | |
| If you had a guy that lives down the street whose official doctrine is death to Alex Jones or death to Nick Fuentes, and that guy in his basement is making a bomb that can take out your home, take you out, take out your whole family. | |
| You're not going to sit around and go, well, what's the computation going on in their mind? | |
| You're going to say that, guess what? | |
| If that guy has the intention, which is to say the motive, and he has the ability to deliver this bomb in a catastrophic way, then guess what? | |
| If I've got some friend in the neighborhood, let's call it Israel, and they go, listen, we're happy to go do the job for you. | |
| We will go clobber that guy. | |
| But guess what? | |
| There's one part of the room we can't get to. | |
| If you will lend us a plane for one night, we will bomb that part of the house. | |
| And that'll be the end of that guy. | |
| No more debt to America. | |
| You'll be able to sleep safely at night, you and your family. | |
| Who wouldn't take that deal? | |
| Who would sit around going, well, we have a relationship based on mutual trust? | |
| They keep saying debt to America, but we don't really believe them because lots of other people say similar things. | |
| And so therefore, we're going to do an Obama-type deal in which, by and large, we kind of look the other way. | |
| We don't even have good ways to fully monitor what they're doing. | |
| Nick conceded they have the motive to do it, the interest in doing it, and they can do it pretty much whenever they want. | |
| And you're saying we should rest at ease when we have people like that with essentially dangerous weapons. | |
| Okay, Dinesh, Dinesh. | |
| I want to go to comments and callers now. | |
| I just want to ask you guys one more question. | |
| People can look at it from Israeli perspective, American perspective, Iranian perspective, but we've seen this whole chain and we've seen Wesley Clark, you know, 15, 20 years ago saying he was in the Pentagon meeting seven countries of regime change. | |
| And we saw all that. | |
| That's why Americans are against this. | |
| It's not because we support the Mullahs. | |
| It's because, you know, we see this larger issue. | |
| And that's my personal view. | |
| I don't like the Mullahs, but at the same time, I don't want to be lying into a quagmire much worse than Vietnam. | |
| 93 million people, potentially hidden nuclear weapons. | |
| And Russia and China have said no more dominoes are going to fall. | |
| This is part of a proxy war in World War III that's really already begun between the West and China and Russia. | |
| We all know that. | |
| So both of you, just one minute on. | |
| One minute on where the world is. | |
| Has World War III already begun? | |
| And do you guys agree with me that this is a proxy war or a hybrid war battleground between what's left of the West and the emerging new multipolar world? | |
| I would just sum it up in a single sentence or two, and that is basically, I trust Trump in the same way that I trusted Reagan. | |
| I don't think, I think Trump himself, just like the rest of us, was there for Iraq. | |
| He learned the lessons of Iraq the same as the rest of us. | |
| The difference is this is a guy who knows how to operate on the global chessboard. | |
| He's already proven it in his first term. | |
| He didn't drag us into any wars. | |
| He has been a no war president. | |
| And I think he's a no-war president now. | |
| I think he's trying to settle the issue in the Middle East the same way as he's trying to settle the issue in Ukraine. | |
| This is not the same between the two parties. | |
| Kamala Harris would never have ordered this strike on Iran. | |
| Why? | |
| Because she has too many jihadis in her own party. | |
| This is the party of Ilhan Omar. | |
| It's the party, and I'm afraid it's a party. | |
| This is why I suggested that Nick might be a Democrat because a lot of the things that he said tonight are pretty much an echo of Ilhan Omar. | |
| We can trust Iran. | |
| They don't have any evil intentions. | |
| They're a rational power. | |
| They don't have any ill will. | |
| Israel's the real problem. | |
| Well, I mean, that's Ilhan Omar. | |
| Okay, final comeback, Nick. | |
| We got to take a few questions because everybody's got to go here soon. | |
| It's an amazing live debate right now. | |
| Tuesday, July 1st interview. | |
| We are at 848 Central here. | |
| Appreciate both these guys being with us. | |
| Nick, final comeback to that. | |
| Yeah, I mean, the Democrat thing is just so crazy. | |
| I just don't even know how to respond to that. | |
| I mean, I guess the basis of the debate is I'm trying to talk about the present timeline. | |
| I'm talking about the details of Iran's program, cause and effect, you know, the mindset of these countries, how they calibrate, how they calculate their strategies. | |
| And then we get these kind of like fables, you know, from the cave paintings of Lascau, the Barbary pirates, you know, Ronald Reagan. | |
| And it's just like, what am I watching here? | |
| I feel like we're just in two different universes. | |
| And, you know, look, I was sympathetic to a lot of those arguments at one time. | |
| I read your books, Dinesh, and I watched your speeches when I was in high school. | |
| And I was big into Fox News and all that stuff. | |
| But I just feel like it's a completely different reality. | |
| And I would say that the big picture, which we can all see, is that the Israelis, once again, are trying to drive us into another one of their wars, some dimension of U.S. involvement that is really not in our interest. | |
| I don't trust Trump at all. | |
| Clearly, he has no control over Netanyahu, who cannot restrain Israel at all. | |
| And the tail is wagging the dog. | |
| He pulls his chair out for him. | |
| And Trump said repeatedly, we want to make a deal. | |
| We want to make a deal. | |
| And Israel said, no, we accept no deal. | |
| We don't care about the terms. | |
| If it's good, if it's bad, we're bombing Iran anyway. | |
| And the second the time ran out on Trump's deadline, they were scheduling a sixth round of talks for that Friday. | |
| And then that Sunday, Israel let loose and they bombed Iran and they started this war, one they knew they couldn't win. | |
| They started getting pummeled and they knew that would force the United States to intervene in a way that wasn't effective. | |
| And look, now we're in it. | |
| Now we're trapped in this problem. | |
| You're going to see it rear its head again in a few months and there will be more U.S. involvement. | |
| We spent $30 billion on this conflict so far. | |
| There's nothing America-first about it. | |
| I don't trust Iran. | |
| I don't like Iran. | |
| I don't like our adversaries. | |
| I just want America's interest to be pushed first. | |
| And I don't see how. | |
| Very briefly, this is a swear to God, the last question. | |
| We're going to go to these callers and a few quick questions. | |
| If Trump is trying to stop war, and we hope that's the case, and then Israel wants to go forward, then is there any way out of a larger conflict? | |
| You're saying it's going to continue on. | |
| Then why is Trump saying today at Alligator Alcatraz that he's got a deal Monday? | |
| Have either one of you heard what that is? | |
| Did that show you got a lot of contacts with the Rolocy? | |
| Well, no, I mean, all that I know is what's in the public record, that Trump is trying to get Israel not simply to conclude the war in Iran, but also to declare a ceasefire in Gaza. | |
| Now, Israel said right after October 7th, we are not doing this until we get the hostages back and until we have defeated Hamas. | |
| So there is unanimity in Israel. | |
| By that, I mean the Likud, the Labor Party, across the spectrum, the Israelis believe you attacked us. | |
| We have a job to do. | |
| But Trump is telling them, no, I'm going to stop you along the way. | |
| So, right away, I think here you see who's calling the shots. | |
| It's not Netanyahu, it's Trump. | |
| In fact, the very idea that a small country like Israel, which is, like I say, what, 10 or 12 million people, we are 350 million, we're bigger, we're stronger, we're richer. | |
| If somehow the Jews control us, then truly they are the master race. | |
| All right. | |
| Nick, you got to respond to that. | |
| And then I hate saying the last question. | |
| But, you know, pulling back from all of this, I literally wanted to just have a pro-Israel question, a pro-U.S. | |
| question, pro-Iran, whatever. | |
| I literally cannot find on the X account, Iron Office Jones, a even pro-war view because I want to show both sides. | |
| And it's the same thing. | |
| All the callers that I can see are anti-Israel. | |
| So that's a larger question. | |
| The polls show it. | |
| Good sign, boys. | |
| The whole world is true against Israel. | |
| The Democrats are tremendous. | |
| I can't stand it. | |
| And they love Islam, which is even crazier. | |
| I got to be mad at Israel, but also not support radical Islam takeover or Orthodox Islam takeover. | |
| So I think it's fair to say maybe you both disagree with me or maybe Danesha Souza does. | |
| There is definitely a hyper accelerated anti-Israel movement. | |
| And does Israel realize that? | |
| Even Michael Savage was on my show Friday and he said, look, I'm pro-Israel, but I want Netanyahu to go because he's turning the world against Israel. | |
| And now they expel the few Gazans that are left alive and the image of them being marched off in the desert, you know, to Libya or wherever. | |
| I mean, here's a simple question. | |
| Do you agree, Danesh's and then Nick, that Israel is at its most unpopular point since it was formed in 1947? | |
| I would say to me, it's, it doesn't even matter. | |
| Why? | |
| Because I'm not Israel first. | |
| I mean, I'm America first. | |
| And so Israel's popularity or unpopularity is not at the forefront of my concern. | |
| Now, I will say that my experience is that in the Republican Party, and I'm talking about the mainstream of the Republican Party, Israel is very popular. | |
| Israel is not, in fact, it's not that the Republican Party is turned against Israel. | |
| And this is why Trump's the only place that is popular. | |
| I said that. | |
| Well, I mean, it's popular among it's popular by and large, I think, among the majority of practicing Christians in this country. | |
| Why? | |
| Maybe part of it is for biblical reasons. | |
| Maybe it's partly because we have a Judeo-Christian heritage. | |
| We have a Western civilization based on Athens and Jerusalem. | |
| And Athens, of course, refers to classical reason. | |
| But what is Jerusalem if not the land and the promises of the Bible? | |
| So for a lot of Christians, that is important. | |
| So yes, I agree the Democrats don't like Israel. | |
| I agree that there are powerful forces around the world that don't like Israel. | |
| But look, one reason for this is because the Muslims outnumber the Jews like 100 to 1. | |
| What are they like 2.5 billion Muslims and what, 13 or 14 or maybe 20 million Jews in the world? | |
| So is it any surprise that this larger force of Muslims has far more influence worldwide with the UN, with a lot of other countries, Asian countries, and so on? | |
| They just outnumber the Jews. | |
| And so that's one of the reasons why Israel is so, quote, unpopular. | |
| Nick, comment to that. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I would say Israel is unpopular because they killed 100,000 people in Gaza. | |
| They destroyed 90% of the buildings, 90% of the roads, the hospitals. | |
| People that are trying to get aid supplies. | |
| They kill innocent civilians. | |
| They rape prisoners. | |
| And then when the soldiers that rape the prisoners, this happened last year, get arrested, all the government ministers defend the soldiers and a riot forms outside the prison to defend them. | |
| I think that's why people hate Israel right now. | |
| And I would say, as far as Christians are concerned, why? | |
| Why do we like Israel? | |
| You have government ministers in Israel that say spitting on Christians is an ancient Jewish tradition and it's fine. | |
| You have Zionist rabbis like the Kooks who say that Christians should be killed. | |
| They say atheism is preferable to Christianity because Christianity is idolatry. | |
| Maimonides, who your buddy Josh Hammer, Josh Hammer, who, by the way, called all Europeans inherently anti-Semitic in our DNA, he said that Maimonides is the ROM bomb. | |
| He's our Thomas Aquinas. | |
| Maimonides said to pray for the death of Christians every single day. | |
| I don't know why Christians love Israel. | |
| I don't know why people think that they're our friend. | |
| I regard Jews and Muslims as basically the same insofar as neither of them are friends of Christians. | |
| Neither of them are friends of the West. | |
| I think they both have their own motives. | |
| They both have terrorist groups. | |
| They both oppose Christianity and see us as idolaters. | |
| That's the Muslim beef with Christians. | |
| That's the Jewish beef with Christians. | |
| Our worship of the person of Jesus Christ. | |
| And so I think that, you know, Israel's become very unpopular. | |
| Contrary to what you and your family say, Dinesh, you say, well, anti-Semitism is because we like hate God's promise to Israel. | |
| No, we don't like the fruits from the poisonous tree. | |
| We don't like what Israel has wrought in the Middle East and the world in the past couple of years, in the past 70 years. | |
| And it's just, I mean, it's not even a question they influence us, the APAC money, the Adelsons, Chabad Lubavitch, all over the White House, brought in by the son-in-law, Jared Kushner. | |
| In the first term, Jared Kushner was put in charge of negotiations over the border, over the Abraham Accords, over so many things. | |
| He's a donor to the Lubavitchers, and they ran that White House. | |
| They were all over the place. | |
| Real fast, Dinesh. | |
| I swear to God, we're going to stop going to calls, but just realize that. | |
| Just on this issue of, just on this issue of influence, here's the thing. | |
| I think that, you know, it's Miriam Adelson gave $100 million to Trump for the 24 campaign, a great deal of money. | |
| However, Trump is worth something somewhere between $4 and $8 billion. | |
| So what that means is that for Trump, this kind of money is trivial. | |
| It's kind of like saying, I'm a multi-millionaire and someone's giving me $100. | |
| And then along comes Nick Fuente. | |
| He's going, that guy owns you. | |
| We gave you $100, Dinesh. | |
| And people actually say this. | |
| My son-in-law is a congressman in Dallas. | |
| People say, well, APAC gave him $10,000. | |
| Well, Brandon Gill spent well over a million dollars in his campaign. | |
| You think he's going to sort of change his position on Israel because someone gave him 10 grand? | |
| I mean, this is madness. | |
| So similarly, I think there's a lack of perspective here about APAC. | |
| You think APAC is more influential than the pharmaceutical companies? | |
| You think APAC is more influential than the French company Airbus, which is powerful lobbyist influences and getting contracts all over the world, by the way, not just in America. | |
| So there are lots of interests. | |
| A lot of our own tech companies are far more loyal to globalist interests than they are to the United States. | |
| They may be headquartered in Silicon Valley, but they don't care about America. | |
| They care less about America probably than Israel does. | |
| So the point is, we can't be naive about all this. | |
| And we've got to realize that Trump is big enough. | |
| He's enough of a mammoth figure that for these relatively trivial sums by a billionaire standards, he can't be bought. | |
| Okay. | |
| You both been very gracious. | |
| Let's do a few calls and a few comments off X. But I'm, bro, that is one of the most disingenuous arguments ever. | |
| Dude, it doesn't matter. | |
| Oh, you're a billionaire. | |
| You got $100 million. | |
| It's not that much money. | |
| The $100 million isn't to influence him with all of his policy. | |
| It's to influence his foreign policy. | |
| That's what this guy isn't getting. | |
| These people that donate are single-issue fucking donors. | |
| They're not coming in saying, oh, I'm giving you $100 million so that you can like make gay marriage illegal. | |
| No, they're giving $100 million to say, I need you to preserve Israel, something that we've been doing a minute. | |
| So, bro, completely deflected and obfuscated from the main point. | |
| Committee, which was a foreign entity. | |
| It was foreign money pouring into the United States. | |
| JFK said you got to register under FARA because it's foreign money lobbying for a foreign country. | |
| And all they did was basically a trick to reorganize how that money is spent. | |
| They changed how the money is spent and said, well, we'll take APAC and we'll make that a U.S.-based chapter. | |
| And then they can spend the money in the United States. | |
| So it is a foreign lobby. | |
| And this is basically what about ism to say, well, what about this lobby? | |
| What about that lobby? | |
| What about, you know, they're not the only one. | |
| They are foreign lobby. | |
| And even though they give small sums to some congressmen, they spend big sums to let me make this very fucking clear. | |
| Some of you bitch ass niggas in the fucking chat. | |
| I mute the shit when I want to fucking mute it. | |
| If you guys want to just watch Nick the whole time, go on X and watch yourself. | |
| This is my fucking stream. | |
| So if I want to go ahead and pause and make a comment, I'll fucking do that. | |
| And any of you bitch ass niggas that got a problem, get the fuck out of my chat. | |
| You're on my fucking channel watching my shit. | |
| If I want to pause it to give commentary, I fucking will. | |
| All right. | |
| Some of you bitch ass niggas in the fucking YouTube chat. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here, bro. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here with that shit, bro. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here. | |
| Turn on X and watch it yourself then. | |
| Shut the fuck up. | |
| Bitch ass niggas. | |
| All you guys are saying, bro, unmute. | |
| You niggas are again putting time out. | |
| The fuck up out of here, bro. | |
| This is my shit. | |
| Who the fuck do you think you are, stupid fucks? | |
| If I want to give commentary, I'm going to give commentary. | |
| Turn on X and watch on your own shit then. | |
| Shut the fuck up. | |
| This is my stream, bitch. | |
| To primary congressmen that oppose to a number of progressive Democrats last year. | |
| They spent millions behind primary candidates against Democrats that didn't vote for foreign aid to Israel. | |
| So their influence is felt everywhere. | |
| And it's always this little like obfuscation game that's played with them. | |
| If you're America first, you can't be in favor of foreign lobbying. | |
| All right, let's move to the next. | |
| Let's move the next one. | |
| Well, let's, yeah, let's push it some more because the one name that you gave us was Miriam Adelson. | |
| Now, Miriam Adelson is married to Sheldon Adelson, and Sheldon Adelson made about $20 billion because he's a casino mogul in Las Vegas. | |
| He owns the Venetian hotel, for example. | |
| So, here's a guy who's an American citizen. | |
| He's a Jew, but we're not talking about the Israeli government. | |
| So, are you saying that you want a law that says that Sheldon Adelson, an American citizen, can't spend money on lobbying? | |
| And how would you draw tell us what this law would say? | |
| Are you going to single out APAC, or are you going to say that basically no foreign interest can lobby in the United States? | |
| Which, by the way, I'm in favor of. | |
| I'm not against it. | |
| I'm simply against what it appears to me to be a kind of conflation between the foreign interests of a foreign state, Israel, and American Jews who are no different than Irishmen, who, by the way, are very involved in Ireland's politics. | |
| You have all kinds of societies, German societies, English societies that promote friendly relations with England. | |
| As I mentioned, there are corporate interests abroad. | |
| There's a Swiss billionaire, Hans Weiss Jordan, I think is the guy's name. | |
| He plows tons of money into the Democrats. | |
| George Soros is a massive influence, a lot of money that's made abroad, now being deployed within American politics. | |
| So, yeah, if you want to have some restrictions on foreign money, I say more power to it. | |
| But weirdly, you seem to be wanting to restrict the one money that's actually coming to benefit MAGA against these left-wing Democrats, as you say. | |
| And you've not said one word about foreign money that's going to these left-wing Democrats in the first place. | |
| I am against all foreign lobbying. | |
| I am against all foreign money. | |
| And the problem with this is you talk about Sheldon Adelson. | |
| You say, well, he's an American citizen. | |
| So, what would you do about him? | |
| Well, let me ask you about Sheldon Adson. | |
| Yes, American citizen, born and raised in the Northeast. | |
| Shell Nadelson, when he died, his body was flown to Israel where he was buried, and the body was greeted on the tarmac by Benjamin Netanyahu. | |
| Sheldon Adelson said he wished he served in the IDF and not the U.S. military. | |
| He said, My heart is in Israel. | |
| He lobbied the Trump administration to pardon Jonathan Pollard, who is an Israeli spy, stealing our secrets and giving them to Israel. | |
| This was something he lobbied for for 10 years. | |
| Like this guy clearly was a foreign agent. | |
| Do you see any sort of problem with that? | |
| I mean, don't you think that his citizenship is sort of a technicality? | |
| Or do you take any issue at all with his clear foreign allegiance to the state of Israel? | |
| Look, all I'm saying is that there are numerous examples of Americans homegrown who have, for some reason or another, fallen in love with some foreign country. | |
| I mean, I'll give some examples. | |
| There were countless Americans who have a problem with that. | |
| Yes, of course I do. | |
| Of course I do, but I'm just saying that there's nothing uniquely Israeli about it. | |
| Think of all the Sandinistas. | |
| Think of all the Americans who went down there. | |
| Think of the number of Americans who went and fought in the Spanish Civil War. | |
| They were obviously putting other countries first. | |
| There were many Americans. | |
| Look at the Rosenbergs. | |
| They spied against the United States for the Soviet Union, Klaus Fuchs. | |
| So, what I'm getting at is there's an American tradition of Americans who, for whatever reason, sometimes ethnicity, sometimes ideology, they start putting another country first. | |
| Are you asking me if that's wrong? | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| And I think when they break the law, they should be punished. | |
| As the Rosenbergs, of course, were put to death. | |
| Klaus Fuchs was arrested. | |
| So we have laws and we should enforce them. | |
| A lot of times, a lot of this bad stuff goes on because people in this country, our own people, allow it to happen. | |
| How did we get 10 million illegals? | |
| Because the Biden-Harris people went to the border basically and said, wink, wink, wink, come on over. | |
| Biden said, when I win, let him in. | |
| When Biden said, I win, immediately search the borders. | |
| I think that's not open for debate. | |
| You guys are gracious. | |
| Let's hit a few phone calls and we'll end this debate. | |
| This is amazing. | |
| Thank you to Nash Assusia. | |
| Thank you, Nick Fuentes. | |
| We've got loaded phone lines, hundreds of questions. | |
| Let's just get to a few of these real fast. | |
| Yeah, he definitely avoided that whole Sheldon shit, man. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| But yeah, let me make that very clear, guys. | |
| Like one thing, like I'm going to put a rule right now. | |
| If I'm stopping a video to comment and one of you bitch ass niggas ever says some stupid shit about on pause so I can whatever, you're instantly getting banned. | |
| Instantly getting banned. | |
| And your shit is getting hidden. | |
| I'm giving you guys that warning right now. | |
| This is my channel. | |
| I do the content the way that I do. | |
| I'm not going to have none of you butch ass niggas come in here and try to tell me what the fuck to do, especially in the YouTube chat. | |
| Fuck you guys even harder. | |
| Okay. | |
| OSS guys could go ahead and give their take on shit, but you bitch ass niggas in the YouTube chat, fuck you guys. | |
| Don't want to sit there and say that shit. | |
| Boo! | |
| Unmute. | |
| You will instantly get banned on my shit, bro. | |
| Instantly. | |
| It's called Political Cultural Commentary, aka my fucking opinion. | |
| If you don't like it, watch it on X. It's there right now. | |
| Watch it on X uninterrupted. | |
| I will pause it as much as I want. | |
| Okay? | |
| So all you guys right now, show yourself so I can ban you bitch ass niggas. | |
| Show yourselves right now because I don't even want y'all in the fucking chat. | |
| You niggas are getting banned because this is my shit. | |
| That's one thing I will do. | |
| I'm offer free speech or whatever, but you guys come in like, no, bro, unpause it because I'm just going to go ahead and bitch about that. | |
| Fuck you. | |
| This is my shit. | |
| I do my content the way that I like fuck out of here, man. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Disrespectful dickheads come in here. | |
| You can literally turn this up on your ex right now and watch uninterrupted. | |
| You're on my channel. | |
| Who the fuck are you to tell me how to run my shit? | |
| The fuck? | |
| Banned. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here, man. | |
| Turn it up on your ex then, bitch. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Now, what's the solution? | |
| When Trump first said it, I couldn't even believe it. | |
| And it's taken me some weeks or even months to get. | |
| All you idiots say unpause right now so I can find you, kick you out the fucking chat, bro. | |
| Don't want none of you toxic motherfuckers in my shit at all, at all. | |
| And you niggas aren't on OSS. | |
| Fuck out of here, bro. | |
| Banned immediately. | |
| So go ahead. | |
| Just put, oh, unpause so I can find you and just ban your shit. | |
| Look at even Lebanon. | |
| Lebanon, Beirut used to be a tourist destination. | |
| Why? | |
| Because people loved it. | |
| It was beautiful, great food, lots of interesting things to see. | |
| Then it became a war zone. | |
| It went kaput. | |
| Trump is basically saying, if we can take some of these places, give these people an incentive to live a different kind of life, maybe the jihadism will be melted over time. | |
| And what we will have is prosperity and trade and tourism. | |
| All right. | |
| Not much time left here. | |
| Nick, you want to respond to that or the next caller? | |
| In principle, I agree. | |
| In principle, and you and I, Alex, have talked about this. | |
| In principle, I believe that the alternative to war is prosperity. | |
| And I think that we should achieve that through diplomacy. | |
| But I think that when you start doing regime change in Syria, Libya, and then in Iran and these other countries, it leads to these long-term problems where it becomes basically impossible. | |
| So that's why I'm a little bit more reserved when it comes to any kind of U.S. intervention, especially regime change, because I think that, you know, that's what Steve Witkoff on some level, to the extent that we can trust him, when he says make a deal with Iran, it's because he has business interests in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. | |
| He doesn't want missiles flying over the Persian. | |
| Let me ask you both. | |
| That's why I shan't do if you were calling in this. | |
| This is amazing. | |
| I wish we could all lie. | |
| I'm going to respect you guys. | |
| Let you guys soon in like 10 minutes. | |
| What about Russia? | |
| What about China? | |
| What about North Korea saying we're thinking about giving nukes to Iran? | |
| Pakistan talking about it, Dinesh. | |
| And then, Nick, you haven't talked as much in the last 10 minutes. | |
| Well, let's do that, Nick, first. | |
| Nick, what about the escalation ladder here of these major powers and see it's the last dumbo to fall? | |
| My bigger concern is that. | |
| And yo, do me a favor, guys? | |
| Just hide them from the channel forever. | |
| All the guys that are saying unpause, hide them from the channel forever. | |
| You niggas are never in the chat ever again. | |
| Nobody's ever going to see your shit. | |
| So good job. | |
| You don't come on my channel and tell me what to do. | |
| I'm not fucking Neon, bro. | |
| Like, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, oh, no. | |
| No, I run my shit the way that I want. | |
| If I want to pause, I'm going to fucking pause it. | |
| That's one thing we're not going to do on here. | |
| One thing we're not going to do. | |
| I'm all for the free speech and everything else like that, but you guys are not going to tell me how to run my shit, especially when I didn't run a poll and ask you for your fucking opinion. | |
| If I want to stop and give commentary, which is what this channel is, especially when you have the ability to turn it on on your own on your ex, literally open up X, go on Alex Jones. | |
| It's right here for you. | |
| Real Alex Jones. | |
| Go check it out. | |
| But yeah, I don't even want you guys in here. | |
| The fuck up out of here, bro. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Well, you're a wimp, like Rabbi Shmoley. | |
| You're just a wimp. | |
| So yeah, mods, get them out of here. | |
| Get them out of here, bro. | |
| All these niggas saying any of this shit, get them the fuck up out of here, bro. | |
| No, I'm not a wimp. | |
| I'm a realist. | |
| What about Russia? | |
| What about China? | |
| What about North Korea? | |
| Your response to the national decision. | |
| Well, there is another frame to look at the bombing of Iran and let's just analyze it from a bit of a different perspective. | |
| It was a major blow to Russia, no question about it. | |
| And I'll tell you why. | |
| Russia is attempting to make this comeback. | |
| They're trying to become a global or regional at least power again. | |
| And they've done that by selling their weapons in Syria, building bases in Syria, giving their weapons to Iran, other countries. | |
| And Iran had this idea that Russia was their strategic partner and they were going to get missile defense systems and fighter jets from Russia. | |
| When Israel attacked Iran, those systems were completely null and void. | |
| I mean, they were totally ineffective. | |
| And Russia would not intervene on their side. | |
| Russia basically abandoned them. | |
| This is a major blow to Russia's credibility and to any potential client state. | |
| They're all going to look at Iran and say, well, what about Iran? | |
| How did that go for the Iranians? | |
| You know, you were supposed to be their patron and now Israel wiped the floor with them. | |
| Although I think there's more acute ramifications in the Middle East, without a question, this is, I mean, let's just be honest. | |
| I think Russia's point that it's the U.S. is the dog and Israel is the tail. | |
| But I don't think that's why the United States did it. | |
| I think that that was a byproduct. | |
| And I think that, again, that's what we can say in this narrow timeline right now. | |
| I think that we're trapped in regime change in Iran. | |
| I think that's going to be extremely negative in the long term. | |
| But one of the byproducts, because we invaded Iraq, that is what forced Iran to stop weaponizing. | |
| We invaded Iraq. | |
| Syria and Libya abandoned their WMD programs. | |
| Like sometimes it has byproducts that you can say are positive, but you have to take it all together. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think that's a good byproduct. | |
| Well, I mean, I think it's kind of, it diminishes Trump not to recognize that he's thought of this, right? | |
| I mean, if China is more reluctant to invade Taiwan, if Russia is more reluctant to take on a second conflict above and beyond Ukraine, I even saw Putin say something very interesting where he goes, not only do I have my hands full in Ukraine, but he goes, there are 2 million Russian Jews living in Israel. | |
| And he says, I got to take that into account. | |
| So this was an angle I hadn't really thought of, which is the number of Russians who emigrated to Israel. | |
| And apparently, Putin has some thought for those guys. | |
| So I'm saying that I think Nick thinks, well, we did it because we're the fawns of Israel and we got some good benefits out of it. | |
| I'm pretty sure that Trump had those benefits also firmly in mind when he did what he did. | |
| Let's show the world that we are not, this is not the Biden-Harris regime anymore. | |
| We're not the world's patsies. | |
| We're not going to be sending pallets of cash to you. | |
| If you misbehave, we're going to clobber you the way Reagan did, the way Thomas Jefferson did. | |
| And that is America first. | |
| All right, Sailor in Florida. | |
| You're there with Dinesh's Souza Dick Fointes here, the historic today. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Sailor in Florida. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Hello. | |
| So I have a question for Mr. Dinesh D'Souza. | |
| So you say that, and you didn't explain why Israel has the right to that land. | |
| You said there's many reasons a country might, but you didn't get into that. | |
| But my question for you, and you also say Judeo-Christian values. | |
| Well, Jesus says, you have heard it said, therefore I say, and Jesus said, I'm going to have this temple that you're seeing here is going to be destroyed. | |
| All right, I want to listen to this woman talk. | |
| All right, Boro says, I agree, big dog. | |
| Shit on those dumbfucks rather spend money on some dumb snowballing on off and trying to tell you how to run your show, go straight, kick an OSS. | |
| Yeah, bro, especially YouTube chat niggas. | |
| Fuck you guys. | |
| Like you guys are in here trying to yo, unpause. | |
| All right, bro. | |
| Get the fuck out of my shit, bro. | |
| I'm offer free speech, but you're not going to tell me how to run my show. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| You're not going to do that. | |
| Martin, YouTube section A of the OSS don't give these niggas no more free attention. | |
| Yeah, just get rid of them. | |
| I don't give a fuck. | |
| These motherfuckers on YouTube do the most and pay the least. | |
| That's what I'm saying, bro. | |
| At least on Rumble a Kick, I don't give a shit, whatever. | |
| But you guys are watching on YouTube and you guys are over here trying to tell me what to do, bro. | |
| Fuck that. | |
| We don't like those YouTube freeloaders. | |
| OSS cooking, y'all niggas, man. | |
| That's funny. | |
| The YouTube dudes ain't shit. | |
| W show checking in. | |
| Appreciate you. | |
| When was the last time Airbus got somebody debanked? | |
| Dude's been being disingenuous. | |
| Martin, I texted Fit and he told me that you told him that I wasn't allowed to join OSS. | |
| What? | |
| Could you blink twice or do a backflip? | |
| What do you? | |
| That's not true at all, bro. | |
| We have a Judeo-Christian heritage at G2 2025. | |
| You know, shit's crazy, bro. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Yeah, fitness by us says it's used for decent deterrence, idiot. | |
| China and Russia both have bombs and we still don't invade them. | |
| Yep, absolutely. | |
| Denes analogies leave out the context of the good guys inhabiting inhabiting someone else's home. | |
| Yep. | |
| Mr. Sousa sounds like a neocomputer claiming to be MAGA Nick a Democrat while using Machiavellian tactics. | |
| Bro, it's crazy. | |
| You're calling him a Democrat. | |
| Like, bro, holy shit. | |
| Kara says, YouTube, broke, he's acting like in Title 3 or 4. | |
| Yeah, bro, 80% of these niggas aren't even in OSS trying to tell me what to do. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What are your thoughts on these female teachers? | |
| Fucking their underage students. | |
| Bro, I'm telling you, man, it only works for women, guys. | |
| Not men. | |
| They're catching a whole bunch of these young, these women, fucking these kids. | |
| It's absolutely crazy. | |
| Absolutely nuts. | |
| Kessler with the emo says YouTube be like, Yeah, I know, bro. | |
| It's crazy, bro. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| That's funny. | |
| Yeah, no, I appreciate you guys in OSS. | |
| You guys are roasting these niggas on YouTube, bro. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| Because, bro, they're like wildly disrespectful. | |
| Wildly disrespectful. | |
| I'm on this fucking platform, not getting paid to be on here. | |
| And these niggas want to try to tell me how to do my shit. | |
| Bro, what? | |
| What? | |
| The Jews, after being scattered to the ends of the earth, will return to their homeland. | |
| Now, if you read this in the Bible 100 years ago or 200 years ago, it would have seemed like the most preposterous, implausible. | |
| See, and then this bitch ass dude says, Yeah, bro, I'm not going to give you my money. | |
| Good. | |
| Just ban me. | |
| You got it, buddy. | |
| You got it. | |
| What's this bitch-ass nigga's name? | |
| Hidden Gates. | |
| Good. | |
| Gone forever, nigga. | |
| Banished to the shadow realm. | |
| Have you guys don't fuck with it anyway? | |
| You guys don't fuck with me anyway. | |
| So it doesn't matter. | |
| Have you guys don't even fuck with me anyway? | |
| So fuck y'all niggas, man. | |
| Honestly. | |
| Ridiculous thing to say because no other group has ever done this. | |
| No other. | |
| You got to trim out the fat man. | |
| Got to trim out the fucking pussies. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here. | |
| Group has been scattered in this way and come back to the same land and speaking the same language and following the same rites and customs and having maintained their tribal identity and worshiping the same God. | |
| But the Jews have. | |
| The Bible predicted it and it's come true. | |
| And you have to attach some theological significance. | |
| Hit that loser with the spirit bomb, bro. | |
| Significance to that. | |
| Now, with regard to what you were saying about the Jews being there, I'm writing a book currently on biblical archaeology. | |
| And this is the archaeology that began in the late 19th century. | |
| It's continued through the 20th century, but massive archaeological discoveries in the last 20 years. | |
| And it turns out that there's archaeological evidence now for Abraham. | |
| There's archaeological evidence for King David's palace. | |
| King David, by the way, lived 1,000 years before Christ. | |
| There's archaeological evidence. | |
| The seals of Isaiah and Jeremiah, the prophets, have been found. | |
| So these are not mythical figures. | |
| These are historical figures. | |
| And what does this prove? | |
| That the Jews were there. | |
| They were there in 2000 BC, 4,000 years ago. | |
| So whose land is it if not theirs? | |
| Okay, so let me just say this. | |
| The Romans wrote about the Jews there in the histories. | |
| And so did the Babylonians and the Egyptians. | |
| So I don't, the Greeks. | |
| I don't think it's debatable that that went on. | |
| Solomon, King David, all that. | |
| Nick, Nick, comment to that. | |
| Yeah, I don't disagree with Dinesh about the archaeological record. | |
| And I believe I'm a Catholic, so I believe that King David and King Solomon were all real and they live there. | |
| But I don't take it as a good omen. | |
| When you say there's like a theological significance to the Jews retaining their religion ostensibly and then coming back to the Holy Land, I see it as actually a very dark omen because, of course, we talk about Iran's eschatological views about the 12th Imam and the Makdi and all this. | |
| We don't talk about the Jews, which is in order for them to practice their religion, they need to reestablish temple worship. | |
| In order to have temple worship, they need another temple. | |
| And this is not exactly a fringe idea in Israel. | |
| They talk about sacrificing these red heifers, these perfect red heifers. | |
| And then ultimately, one of the goals of the religious Zionists is to just take out the mosque, the Al-Aqsa mosque, and rebuild the third temple. | |
| And this is sort of terrifying because it undoes what the callers said. | |
| It undoes what Christ did. | |
| And we talked about this. | |
| I told you guys that they got the five heifers. | |
| They bought them from Texas for like half a million dollars, man. | |
| So they're absolutely looking to destroy the mosque and rebuild that temple. | |
| Which was to destroy the temple because there's a new sacrifice, which is him, the Lamb of God. | |
| There's a new temple. | |
| There's a new church, new priests. | |
| There's a new law. | |
| And then they were sent out. | |
| Now that they've returned, it's almost like it's working in reverse. | |
| They've returned to the land. | |
| And then, you know, it might point towards maybe they're going to rebuild the temple. | |
| And who will inhabit the temple? | |
| The Jews say that our religion is dead because Christ is dead, they say. | |
| They say their religion is alive and their Messiah is yet to come. | |
| Who will inhabit the third temple and sit in the Holy of Holies on the site? | |
| It sounds like the Antichrist. | |
| So, you know, and this is just sort of my speculation on this, but I mean, I sort of agree in a sense that you can't say it doesn't have theological significance, but I sort of tremble. | |
| Yeah, they bought a bunch of heifers out in Texas, guys, a couple years ago because that's the prophecy. | |
| These five red heifers that don't have a single white hair, they found them in Texas and bought them. | |
| Fear what that represents. | |
| I don't see it as a good thing. | |
| Okay, Dinesh. | |
| Comment on that. | |
| I'm going to go to Jeremy and Daniel. | |
| We're going to shut this debate down because I want to respect both. | |
| You have to go for 10 hours, but you guys have busy schedules here. | |
| We're live. | |
| No, they're going to destroy the mosque, guys. | |
| They're going to destroy the mosque to build the temple at 9.16 Central Time. | |
| Dinesh, go ahead. | |
| Well, I don't want to go too far down this road, but the Bible is a Document that not only celebrates things, but it's prophetic. | |
| And by that, I mean it anticipates events. | |
| And this doesn't mean that these events are by themselves good or bad, or the people who are involved are good or bad. | |
| It just means that this is what's going to happen. | |
| And so when the Bible says the Jews will come back, this is not a moral judgment. | |
| It is a prediction. | |
| And all I'm saying is it has come true. | |
| The interesting thing to me about the Bible is even some of the figures of the Old Testament are morally not only ambiguous, but are just downright abominable. | |
| Starting with David, by the way, because this is not just about him taking up with Bathsheba, but having Batsheba's husband deliberately sent to the front where David knew he would be killed. | |
| So David is not only an adulterer, he's a murderer, but nevertheless, he is also a chosen instrument of God. | |
| And so you have this very interesting duality in understanding the Bible, where on the one hand, you have figures who are dubious in their own right, and we would not admire them in any way. | |
| And as Nick says, they're a little scary, but they are nevertheless instruments of God. | |
| Yeah, I agree with that. | |
| Actually, amazing. | |
| I can go over 10 hours. | |
| Two more callers. | |
| I swear I'll let you everybody go. | |
| This is amazing. | |
| We got to do this again. | |
| I'll do more debates. | |
| By the way, just brief question, both of you. | |
| Because I forget, like three weeks ago, I heard Nick says, hey, will you let me, would you do a debate with Desa? | |
| How did this debate happen? | |
| How did it start? | |
| Well, as far as I know, what it is, is that I saw on social media, it's probably some of Nick's super fans, and they were kept saying, these people in Con Inc. | |
| are all wimps. | |
| They're scared to debate Nick and they won't debate him and stuff. | |
| And I just replied to a couple of those guys and go, well, I'm not scared to debate him. | |
| I'd be happy to do it. | |
| And then I just left that. | |
| And somehow, kind of the snowball gathered more snow. | |
| And to be honest, you know, I got to say, I mean, Nick, you know, I have seen some of your funny routines on social media and I expected a very different kind of debate. | |
| I thought you'd be basically talking about how, you know, Indian people smell bad and things like this. | |
| I had no idea where this was really going to go. | |
| I want to commend you for keeping this very professional, focusing really on the topic that we agreed to. | |
| I also want to commend you. | |
| I mean, I don't think I've met too many 26-year-olds who could speak with the confidence and kind of background knowledge that you have. | |
| So it's been a pleasure for me to engage with you in this debate. | |
| And I'm very glad I'm here. | |
| And I think that's an illustration for you, Nick, of populists, common sense conservatives. | |
| We will have debates because I'm not endorsing everything Dinesh says, everything Nick says, but this is what freedom is about. | |
| This is what colleges used to be. | |
| Nick, Fuentes, go ahead. | |
| Well, I really appreciate you saying that. | |
| And yeah, it started out a little contentious. | |
| You know, we said some things on Twitter, but I appreciate you saying that. | |
| And, you know, I've been watching you for a long time. | |
| I mean, I am younger guys. | |
| So I grew up with your movies and your books. | |
| I read your books. | |
| I watched you on Fox News. | |
| And I know we disagree, but I do think you're a brilliant guy. | |
| I always have. | |
| I think you're good at arguing. | |
| And I've argued the subject with a lot of people. | |
| And I think you're a pretty skilled debater yourself. | |
| So I appreciate it too. | |
| You know, you could have seen it in a lot of ways. | |
| You could have hit me and called me an anti-Semite and really railed on me. | |
| So I also appreciate that, you know, we kept it cordial and we, you know, there's a little flair in things, but we kept it about the issue. | |
| And I had a great time too. | |
| I think the audience learned a lot. | |
| Good. | |
| Two more callers. | |
| We're let some of the Chris winners at 6 a.m. | |
| So have I, but I'm having fun here. | |
| No, it was good stuff, man. | |
| Very professional. | |
| I just wish it was a bit more organized on Alex. | |
| Both Dinesh and Nick were very cordial. | |
| George, you're on the air. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| A question. | |
| Alex should have done some prompts. | |
| You're on, go ahead. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay. | |
| So it's a real honor to be on with you guys. | |
| Nick, as a young man, you've been a huge inspiration to me. | |
| Seriously, you give me people like me a voice. | |
| Dinesh, you're a total staple in the movement. | |
| Your work's been foundational for years. | |
| I think you're amazing. | |
| And Alex, man, people call you crazy. | |
| You've been right more than wrong, of course. | |
| And history just keeps on proving it. | |
| We'll be able to speak to all three of you guys. | |
| Well, Charles, thanks for the comments about us. | |
| But you want to talk about boots on the ground, which is a good question. | |
| So go ahead. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Real quick week. | |
| I just wanted to, and when I got on the line, I mentioned that, but I noticed when Dinesh called Nick a Democrat, I just wanted to point out something to Nick. | |
| Nick, when you debate Dinesh, stay sharp on history. | |
| Don't let him shift into abstract moralizing. | |
| The greatest sounding principles while dodging the core issues. | |
| Keep them pinned on specific dates, policies, outcomes, and don't let them reframe your position. | |
| Listen, listen. | |
| I took your call off a question you asked. | |
| I'm going to have a philosophical about shifting debates. | |
| What is your comment? | |
| Yeah, he wants to give debate time. | |
| In the future, when debating Dinesh, debate, do not redeem the cops. | |
| All right, enough, enough. | |
| I know it's all big joke. | |
| It's all big, you know, whatever. | |
| Exactly what we're talking about. | |
| What the fuck, bro? | |
| I don't want Nick to hire him as the debate coach. | |
| I don't think Nick really needs them, to be honest. | |
| Yeah, I don't think so either. | |
| Okay, let's see another serious caller here. | |
| Daniel in Alabama. | |
| Go ahead, Daniel. | |
| We have a real question. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| What the fuck was that? | |
| Yeah, thanks for taking my call, Alex. | |
| I love how this debate came right on the heels of the Tucker Carlson Ted Cruz debate where Cruz was defending Israel's war against Iran. | |
| So my question is for Dinesh D'Souza. | |
| How much of this war attacking Iran, defending Israel, is do you base it upon Christian Zionism and dispensationalism, which is an erroneous view of the scripture? | |
| Without getting into the issue of sort of biblical exegesis, my views about politics are entirely secular. | |
| And by that, I mean I see the world as a dangerous place. | |
| I think there are lots of bad guys in the world. | |
| And it's naive to think that we can make treaties with all of them. | |
| What we have to do is realize that occasionally a good thrashing is very necessary to put people in their place and keep them from their nefarious designs. | |
| Sometimes we have to ally with smaller powers. | |
| We're doing this all over the world, by the way, to check the growing power of China. | |
| The U.S. will make alliances with India, South Korea, Japan. | |
| This is the most normal thing in the world to prevent China from getting out of control. | |
| We did it with the Soviet Union. | |
| We allied with all kinds of countries, including a lot of European countries, by the way, to block Soviet power. | |
| And similarly, in the Middle East, we've got a night watchman, and it's basically Israel. | |
| I don't think we should make a single decision regarding Israel that's not in our interest. | |
| I don't think we should. | |
| We do all the time, though. | |
| That's the problem. | |
| It's crazy how these MAGA guys don't understand that, bro. | |
| Turtle money because it benefits us. | |
| I want Nick to have one-minute comment. | |
| We're taking a final caller from Douglas in New York, and then we're going to shut this debate down. | |
| It's been amazing. | |
| I want to thank you both for being here. | |
| We'll tell people how to find you. | |
| JustinSusa.com, Nick Fuentes on Rumble, Nick Jay Fuentes, and more. | |
| Nick, comment to that last statement. | |
| Well, yeah, I mean, I'll sort of meet Dinesh halfway here if he's willing to say, you know, we don't, we shouldn't do anything, spend one cent, do anything that's against our interests and for Israel. | |
| You know, I will say for anybody that misunderstands my position, I agree Iran is an adversary. | |
| I'm under no illusions about the fact that our State Department, our defense department compiles this sort of information. | |
| And look, Russia, China, Iran, they are our adversaries. | |
| They are forming up a block or a posse, whatever you want to call it, to challenge U.S. power. | |
| Iran does not trust us. | |
| They don't like us. | |
| And they do backgroups that I don't support their tactics. | |
| I don't support terrorism and hostage taking and these types of things. | |
| You don't support a theocratic dictatorship? | |
| Correct. | |
| I don't support. | |
| I'm not a Muslim, so I don't support that either. | |
| And I think, to be fair to Dinesh, I think it just comes down to: I think we both love America. | |
| We have different experiences. | |
| I think we both articulated we want America first. | |
| And I think neither of us are ideologically isolationists, actually, or necessarily even total pro-war people. | |
| I've seen Dinesh, he was against overthrowing Gaddafi and Assad. | |
| It's just a question of in each case, you have to evaluate the facts and determine what the best course of action is. | |
| And I think that's what the debate was. | |
| So I, you know, I think it's a real debate. | |
| Thank you both. | |
| One last caller. | |
| Two plus hours, two hours, ten minutes. | |
| This is a for people who ever saw one on CNN or ABC News. | |
| This is a real debate. | |
| You just saw it. | |
| Last caller. | |
| There's 100 more, but we just can't do it. | |
| Let's go to Douglas in New York. | |
| You say you want to ask both people about Gaza and fighting for freedom. | |
| Go ahead with your question or comment, Douglas. | |
| Hi, my name is Douglas Vader. | |
| I'm a member of the American Communist Party. | |
| My question is mostly for Nick. | |
| You know, Nick attacks Israel. | |
| He's always attacking Israel, but he never defends the people that are actually fighting them, like Hamas and Hezbollah. | |
| Hamas is ultimately waging a political struggle for national sovereignty, just like our founding fathers did in 1776. | |
| If your friends and family were getting bombed by Israel, if you were living in a prison colony like Gaza, you'd fight back. | |
| Any real man would. | |
| My question for Nick is: why do you mock the people fighting Israel like Sinwar? | |
| Why won't you uphold 1776 and its revolutionary spirit, cat boy? | |
| I love it. | |
| I love it how we don't worship Islam. | |
| Like even someone against Israel in general, I would just characterize, is not good enough for the communists who pick up any revolution to piggyback on. | |
| That's a whole other question about the guy that won the mayoral Democrat primary. | |
| I just like, I mean, my, as much as I don't like what Israel does, I look at the left and they're wedding to Islam. | |
| Sorry, I'm just, I can't handle it. | |
| Nick, go ahead. | |
| Did that's just final comment on this? | |
| Well, there's your proof that I'm not a communist. | |
| Okay. | |
| There's your proof that I'm not a Democrat. | |
| And I would say, you know, with regards to these, and, you know, we shouldn't be glib because it's a serious topic. | |
| I think that, look, terrorism and guerrilla tactics, this is asymmetrical warfare. | |
| When you're fighting a much larger opponent, you hit soft targets. | |
| You engage in these types of campaigns that affect, they engage in terror that are meant to intimidate and scare the public into withdrawing. | |
| And there's a logic to it. | |
| It's not to say that it is an evil, but you understand there's a logic to it. | |
| And I would say that unlike communists, I'm a Catholic. | |
| Christians do not do suicide bombing. | |
| We just don't believe in that. | |
| We don't do hostage taking. | |
| We don't do that. | |
| And I would, by the way, condemn the Christian militias in Lebanon who carried out the genocide in that war in 1982. | |
| I just don't believe in those things. | |
| Christians endured persecution and people say, well, any group that's oppressed that's a man is going to fight like Hamas. | |
| That's not true. | |
| Christ bore the suffering on the cross and so did the apostles and so did the martyrs. | |
| And, you know, that's our religion. | |
| So I'm not a communist. | |
| I don't believe in this like our theory, you know, rest in power and power to the people. | |
| I'm not a communist. | |
| That's another question. | |
| I'm going to close this out for both of you. | |
| Then I swear I'll stop. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let me let me say just a word about this, if I can, Alex. | |
| And it's this. | |
| So here's the thing. | |
| Nick has spoken a lot about how he's a Christian and what they're doing and killing the innocent people in Gaza is unacceptable. | |
| So I don't know what the fuck that guy, what his problem is. | |
| Like, what, you want him to fucking put on a Hamas banner? | |
| Like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy, bro? | |
| These communists are retards, dude. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| Because it's in reference to what Nick said earlier about the fact that Christians are somehow like equidistant from the Jews and from the Muslims. | |
| And I think that that is wrong on two separate counts. | |
| The first one is that as Christians, our New Testament is not a break or a supersession or an abrogation of the Old Testament. | |
| It incorporates the entire Old Testament. | |
| We still love, we don't do the Jewish rites and customs, but we do do the Ten Commandments. | |
| And that comes out. | |
| Christ said, I have come to fulfill the law. | |
| Hey, guys. | |
| Also, I'm running a poll. | |
| Please vote if you're watching on YouTube. | |
| Are you a member of the OSS? | |
| It looks like 75% of you guys are not members of the OSS. | |
| I'll talk about it in a second. | |
| Not abolish it. | |
| That's right. | |
| That's right. | |
| The other point about this is that Jews are not into conversion, but Muslims are. | |
| Jews, in other words, by and large, are happy to be Jews. | |
| They don't really want anyone else to be Jews. | |
| They make it really difficult to become a Jew. | |
| But on the other hand, Muslims... | |
| Yeah, they're not inclusive at all. | |
| Guys, smash that like button. | |
| Do me a favor. | |
| Smash the like button. | |
| On YouTube, let's get to we're at 3,300 likes. | |
| Let's get to 4,000 ninjas. | |
| Let's get to 4,000. | |
| We got a lot of you guys watching. | |
| Let's keep cooking. | |
| Are not only so eager to convert that they want to talk to you about it, but they're perfectly willing to hit you over the head. | |
| Well, Islam means submission. | |
| It means submission to them. | |
| There you go. | |
| That's a key difference between Judaism and Islam, which is that Islam will force you and kill you and will in fact kill Muslims who defect from the faith. | |
| Look at Salaman Rashdi, for example, who still has fatwas on his life. | |
| The Jews don't do that kind of thing. | |
| Wow. | |
| Final comment and then final comment from Dinesh. | |
| Incredible debate. | |
| Want to thank you both. | |
| Nick, Puentez. | |
| Well, just, I mean, that's a whole can of worms, so we don't have to really get into that. | |
| But I would just say that it is true that Jews don't try to convert people, but they, I am a supersessionist. | |
| I'm Catholic, so I do believe that the New Testament does supersede the Old Testament. | |
| And I would say that if you look at the modern Jewish religion, there's no basis in the Bible. | |
| They look at the 613 commandments from the Bible, but they also believe that they received an oral tradition and a mystic tradition on Mount Sinai, that Moses went up and he didn't just get the Ten Commandments, but he got the Talmud, that he got the Kabbalah. | |
| And, you know, there's these forgeries in the Middle Ages that say that he got this mystical tradition. | |
| And I think that a lot of this stuff completely deviates from, to the extent that modern Judaism has any roots in the Old Testament, it completely deviates from that. | |
| I think that the Jewish... | |
| Yo, Kenzo, he says, I watch on YouTube and appreciate the content. | |
| Rest of the chat, be lame. | |
| Sorry, Marin. | |
| Bro, it's cool, man. | |
| Look, guys, I'm for constructive criticism. | |
| I'm for, you know, hey, suggestions or whatever. | |
| But when I'm running the show and I pause to give commentary or whatever, and people will say, unpause it, that's fucking annoying. | |
| It's super annoying. | |
| Throws me off whatever. | |
| And the thing is, I like to engage with the chat. | |
| Like I like to look at the chat and see what you guys are saying and engage with it. | |
| But like when people try to like throw me off because I'm like going to give some commentary to add to it, uh, they're like, oh, oh, oh, pause, bro. | |
| Like, dude, you can literally go watch this on your own then if you don't want to have it pause. | |
| Like, why the fuck are you watching it here? | |
| Like, I'll never understand that. | |
| So, bro, don't worry about it, bro. | |
| You good, Kenzo Anthony. | |
| I see that. | |
| I am mad at the fucking YouTube chat. | |
| There were a couple idiots, but that's fine, bro. | |
| There's always idiots everywhere. | |
| We have like 6,000 people in here. | |
| So, of course, they're going to be on some. | |
| There's going to be a couple idiots, knuckleheads, every single time. | |
| So, it's all good, bro. | |
| Don't worry about it, man. | |
| Messiah came. | |
| His name was Jesus. | |
| And the Pharisees that rejected him, that put him up on the cross, well, they are the ancestors of the modern Jews, and they only developed and further made complex their errors and their ignorance and their hardening their heart away from the true God. | |
| So, that's just sort of a that's a huge topic, maybe for another debate, maybe another time. | |
| But, um, but yeah, I mean, if we're wrapping it up, I just say it was a phenomenal debate. | |
| I think everybody had a great time. | |
| A lot of great points, a lot of good information, watchable, very civil and calm. | |
| You know, it wasn't a streaming match, so I thought it was great. | |
| Holy shit, that music was loud. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Oh, crispy drums hosted. | |
| I didn't know what that music was. | |
| I was like, what is that music? | |
| What the hell? | |
| I wouldn't call myself a super. | |
| All right, Krispy Drums hosted. | |
| Shout out to you, bro. | |
| But clearly, Christ came to fulfill the Old Testament. | |
| It does. | |
| Okay, so that was a raid. | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| I didn't know what that sound was, bro. | |
| Culfill it. | |
| It's not even like an overriding. | |
| It's a continuation of what he said. | |
| And I, the covenant for everybody, not just the Jews. | |
| So there you go. | |
| Dinesh, final 60 seconds. | |
| Dinesh the Souza, DineshSusa.com. | |
| Amazing. | |
| And Nick Fointez, Nick Jay Fuentez, amazing, amazing debate. | |
| Yeah, no, I mean, Nick, Nick, beat him because, like I told you guys before, supporting Israel is like an indefensible position. | |
| So it's going to be an L every time. | |
| It's not a real debate. | |
| Alex, I'll just close out on this. | |
| This is really a topic for another day, but I think that there's an important distinction between the new covenant and the old. | |
| There is a new covenant that God made with the Christians, and that does supersede the old covenant. | |
| But the New Testament doesn't supersede the old because, quite frankly, if it really did, we wouldn't have an Old Testament in the Bible. | |
| The New Testament, I think, a phrase I learned in Christian philosophy many years ago is that the New Testament is in the old concealed, and the Old Testament is in the new revealed. | |
| So you see here the intimate relationship between the old and the New Testament. | |
| No, I agree. | |
| It is a completion. | |
| It is a fulfillment. | |
| It's one compendium. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So I don't think one even, I'm just saying the new is the completion. | |
| All right. | |
| Amazing, incredible interview. | |
| This is what the left doesn't want. | |
| They're the ones that want to censor. | |
| This is totally different and free. | |
| Thank you so much, gentlemen, for being with us. | |
| No, good stuff, man. | |
| Good stuff. | |
| All right. | |
| We'll go back to the cannon thing and finish this up as well. | |
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| Hey, Myron, in case you didn't realize, this is a real debate. | |
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| Speedy says, it's sad that we live in a modern time where when anyone who's curious about the toxic feminism, Zionism means that you're furious of Jewish people. | |
| Yeah, they're stupid, bro. | |
| You are the next infos. | |
| Amen. | |
| Soon. | |
| Bro, I'm here for it up, but the real question, my G, how you doing? | |
| Clearly, there's some stress and raspiness in your voice. | |
| You doing okay? | |
| I'm fine, bro. | |
| I'm just a little tired. | |
| I only slept like three hours. | |
| So I'm very fatigued and tired, man. | |
| But the grind doesn't end. | |
| Fucking dipshits cry about the smallest things. | |
| Amen. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Mr. Rain says, I love how he quote the scripture, but forgets to quote the part Rev 29 to 9. | |
| I know that works in tribulation and poverty. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was once a lost YouTuber, but now I'm found OSS. | |
| Okay, I appreciate you, bro. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay, where were we? | |
| I think we were on this. | |
| Where were we? | |
| We're like in the middle. | |
| Oh, yeah, we're on this fucking fat girl right here. | |
| We covered all, baby. | |
| We cover politics, debating, all this shit. | |
| By the majority of people who did like our conversation, might have to come back to you. | |
| But yeah, guys, running a sale, as you guys know, four bucks to join the OSS right now. | |
| We're growing almost to 2,000. | |
| Let's get to 2,000 cook on there, man. | |
| Hi, guys. | |
| Hi. | |
| Very nice to meet you. | |
| So, can I explain to you why I believe we live in a patriarchy and why I believe we live in the society that's preferential to men? | |
| So I'm going to use the example of male violence. | |
| Oh, Alan Hurd eight minutes ago said, As a great Pope Bull Color God, he prays to and about what God has been ahead in Antarctica. | |
| Pay attention to the weather. | |
| I'm not like them. | |
| I don't have mercy. | |
| I didn't choose you, Farrakhan, Marin. | |
| God did, and bloodlines Ramaine. | |
| Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about? | |
| What the hell are you talking about, dude? | |
| I'm not going to like, bro. | |
| Yeah, this thing Alan Hurd is on some weirdo shit, man. | |
| I ain't going to lie. | |
| Long nose Peter Bill, 20 bucks says, off topic, I'm 30. | |
| I have the craziest it's to join the military and serve our country. | |
| U.S. Coast Guard specifically wanted to join the Marines, but I dropped out of high school back then. | |
| By my GD now, Friendship. | |
| What are your thoughts? | |
| Bro, if you want to surf, go ahead, bro. | |
| Coast Guard is only the, you know, it's a military branch, but it's under the Department of Homeland Security in times of not war, but it goes into the DOD in times of war. | |
| There's a lot of places I can look, but we're going to talk about that. | |
| 81% of women have been sexually assaulted. | |
| One in six have been raped. | |
| One in four women. | |
| Oh my God, here we fucking go, bro. | |
| These bullshit rape statistics. | |
| Are the victims of domestic violence? | |
| 98% of perpetrators of rape and sexual assault are men. | |
| 95% of perpetrators of domestic violence are men. | |
| Actually, in regards to human trafficking, 75% of the people. | |
| Yeah, women are too. | |
| What the fuck are you talking about, bitch? | |
| Of human trafficking victims are women. | |
| So we're seeing a very clear issue of men being violent towards women. | |
| And then when we look at the way that our government handles that, one out of three rapes go reported. | |
| And then out of the ones that go reported, 7% end in jail time. | |
| So if we're looking at that and we're looking at the fact that our government... | |
| Yeah, because the problem is that women retroactively withdraw consent and And a lot of the times they don't want to be looked at as 304s, man. | |
| Like, come on, man. | |
| Really get that worried about male violence. | |
| Well, so what I would say is, going back to biological differences, men are naturally inclined more towards aggression than women are. | |
| So I am not shocked by you telling me it's even if you looked at, like I said, male-on-male crime, you would see that there are more instances of men killing other men than there are instances of women killing other women. | |
| And that I think actually speaks to our biological differences, which is actually at the root of everything that I believe about feminism being a lie, is because they're trying to program people to believe that men and women are the same. | |
| Now, I don't think that pointing to the fact that men are more aggressive than women, which is a point that you and I 1,000% agree on, whether or not that manifests in the very wrong way, men harming other men, which I think they do more probably than they are beating women, men on male on male violence. | |
| That manifestation doesn't change the fact that men and women are just biologically hardware. | |
| Shout out, Nasty. | |
| If you want to join just OSS, you can, bro. | |
| You're good. | |
| Take advantage of the deal, my friend. | |
| Why are different? | |
| I think it's actually proof of that. | |
| I don't think it has anything to do with the fact of power dynamics in this country because to the contrary, if you look at prison rates and talking about how disparities don't mean anything, the majority of overwhelming people that are in prison are male, right? | |
| There's a reason for that. | |
| So when it manifests in a good way, that male aggression is the reason why we have men defending us, men that are willing to go to war and die for our nation. | |
| So aggression being an aspect of masculinity has nothing to do with the conversation of whether or not feminism is harming women today. | |
| I mean, I agree with you. | |
| We agree in our biologically just men. | |
| But I don't, what I want you to connect it to is, I guess, power. | |
| Because what I'm talking about when I say that we're existing under a matriarchy is that I believe that the social pressures politically and socially that are coming and even within our music, if we talk about Hollywood, it's very much has become like just because like who was on the top music charts or whatever are women. | |
| Okay, how many women have paid maternity leave? | |
| That's not like how are the how are things panning out in the family cards? | |
| Why are abusive men having access to their children? | |
| Like why are women making less than men? | |
| Like what I mean none of that means anything to me. | |
| So that because they're lazy. | |
| And they go into career fields that pay less. | |
| Bro, this woman's like an internal victim. | |
| I don't know if you guys noticed. | |
| Fucking weirdo. | |
| This bitch, I don't know what she looked crazy, bro. | |
| Obviously, I'm sure you're so fat. | |
| We've recognized the gender gap has been debunked so many times. | |
| It's almost foolish to debunk it again. | |
| Well, you could say, yeah, that most women will go into jobs where they're making less, but then it doesn't answer the question of why do we not value women's labor. | |
| It's not, that's not valuing women's labor. | |
| It's just a reality that if you are going to be a person that aspires to become a brain surgeon, you are going to make more money than a person that aspires to do something that's, you know, like being a hairdresser. | |
| In the household. | |
| Can we go back to the Bill Biden's question? | |
| Why does our country not persecute men then who are rapists? | |
| They absolutely prosecute men. | |
| Men go to jail way more for domestic violence than women do, even though we know that women can perpetrate a considerable amount of domestic violence. | |
| Women beat on men or attack the men. | |
| When there's one party beating the other, it's majority the female beating the guy. | |
| So what she's talking about, our men are violent, but that doesn't, that does, she forgot to mention to you guys that women also beat on men. | |
| Most domestic violence cases are the people beating each other up. | |
| Well, the majority of people who are in prison are men. | |
| So I don't know what you mean that we don't prosecute men that are rapists. | |
| We even prosecute people. | |
| 7% go to jail. | |
| Only 7% go to jail. | |
| I don't know what that has to do with the question of whether or not we're living in a matriarchy or patriarchy. | |
| If government men are preferential to men saying that they only like to arrest men when they kill someone, but they are yeah, but women are raping too, and they don't go to jail for nearly as much. | |
| Look at all these teachers that are getting caught for literally having sex with underage students. | |
| Are they doing as much time? | |
| I'll tell you. | |
| Nope. | |
| Government is awarding the fuck is this woman talking about men for raping women? | |
| I don't understand what you're saying. | |
| They don't care. | |
| Rape is effectively legal. | |
| You can literally rape a woman and you have a very low likelihood of actually going to jail as a man. | |
| Rape is effectively legal. | |
| It's effectively legal. | |
| Bro, this girl is fucking crazy, bro. | |
| Here we go. | |
| These radical leftists are retards, bro. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| How many men are actually going to join? | |
| I actually agree with you that in terms of sex crimes, and I don't know how you're peeling out women because I would even, and again, this is. | |
| Hey, guys, do me a favor. | |
| Like I said before, I fucking hate YouTube, but I'm on here anyway because I know a lot of you guys prefer to watch on YouTube. | |
| So I'm here for you, niggas. | |
| Even though some of the, we had some retards in the chat earlier, but I think they're pretty much all gone now. | |
| Because they're not real supporters anyway. | |
| Guys, do me a favor. | |
| Smash that like button. | |
| Let's get to 4,000. | |
| I don't want to have to hold the show hostage, but let's get to 4,000 likes, guys. | |
| We're only at 3,400. | |
| Look, if you're not a member of OSS, maybe you don't have money right now. | |
| You don't want to join. | |
| You're still waiting. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Four bucks. | |
| We got three days left to go for the deal. | |
| No biggie. | |
| Only thing I ask is that you guys like the video. | |
| We've been streaming now for almost six hours. | |
| So just smash that like button, guys. | |
| I feel like crap. | |
| Really tired, but I'm here anyway. | |
| So, yeah, man. | |
| That's the only thing I ask. | |
| You know, if you can't join OSS, just smash the like button. | |
| It's free. | |
| There's nothing to do with our argument. | |
| Back to it. | |
| But I would even say that people are not being prosecuted hard enough when we're dealing with crimes against children, period. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Talking about sexual crimes not being prosecuted in this country is a whole other conversation. | |
| And you will not get a disagreement with me, but I think that it's wrong to say that it's somehow attached to being a woman when you know that there are so no, I don't want to hold the show hostage, bro. | |
| Just smash the like button, guys. | |
| I'm not going to hold it hostage. | |
| Just if we can get it like in the next 10 minutes, hit that 4,000 next 10 minutes. | |
| I ain't going to bro. | |
| How many children that are going through the exact same thing? | |
| I mean, the lights are going to be. | |
| We're at 36-something right now. | |
| So smash it. | |
| For pedophiles, it's completely ridiculous. | |
| But I don't think it has anything to do with the conversation that we're having right now. | |
| But I agree with it. | |
| It has everything to do with it. | |
| And you're separating it to make your time. | |
| Bro, this fucking milk dud. | |
| Thank you for your seat. | |
| I'm going to add five more minutes to this claim. | |
| Antisemcast says, which race of men is the gotcha question for these idiot libs? | |
| I don't understand But hi, Adam. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| So your claim is, just to be clear, that we live in a matriarchy, right? | |
| So I think even you'd agree that on a global level, that's obviously ridiculous when there are countries where people literally are honor killed for like Instagram posts. | |
| But even if we're talking about just the U.S., right? | |
| We don't have paid maternity leave. | |
| Abortion is illegal in over a dozen different states. | |
| And as someone earlier was mentioning, women are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence and domestic abuse. | |
| So that doesn't seem like a very well-designed matriarchy where women are victims or lacking power in so many different realms. | |
| Notice how he only mentioned two things. | |
| Oh, they're the victims of domestic violence, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Bro, men suffer far more than women do. | |
| Like, you're mentioning two things. | |
| Like, oh, my God, women are oppressed. | |
| Bro, if we're going to go ahead and use the whose life is harder fucking model, which is what the frame he's trying to go down, men have significantly harder lives. | |
| We have to fight for everything that we get. | |
| Moving up in a company is way harder. | |
| We don't get the benefits of fucking affirmative action. | |
| Men are far more likely to be homeless, vagrants, alcoholics. | |
| There's no fucking shelters for us. | |
| There's a whole bunch of better women's shelters, but there's no fucking resources for men with any of this shit. | |
| What the fuck is this guy talking about, bro? | |
| I'll tell you this. | |
| If we want to go ahead and go through the victim Olympics of like, who has a harder life? | |
| Because that's the frame he's going down here, men have it way fucking harder. | |
| Bro, whenever they mention these bullshit stats, it's all about blacks. | |
| Okay, I guess. | |
| Smash the like button, guys. | |
| We're 300 away. | |
| 3725. | |
| Smash the like button. | |
| Let's get to 400. | |
| 4,000. | |
| I just do not think that women are lacking power on a structural level because they can't, which they can, by the way, abort their children. | |
| Is that like one of your components is that? | |
| There's many states where abortion. | |
| He mentioned 12 states out of 50. | |
| Bro, the fact that women can even abort the kid and the men have nothing that have no say in it shows that women have power. | |
| Calculum! | |
| Punch! | |
| This dude is fucking retarded, bro. | |
| Literally, dude, you're over here saying, oh, bro, women can't abort a baby in 12 states. | |
| Okay, nigga, men can't abort a baby ever. | |
| Calculum! | |
| Punch! | |
| Shut the fuck up, man. | |
| What the hell is this guy trying to say? | |
| Dude, these fucking loser feminist motherfuckers are the worst. | |
| Is illegal? | |
| Do you dispute that? | |
| I am going to dispute that having a child is somehow something that restricts women in any capacity. | |
| Like you're saying that the ability to decide what you do with your own body. | |
| I don't believe that it's, I don't believe that murder is something that you should be allowed to do. | |
| Sure, and murder is illegal to actually what you're doing to somebody else's body. | |
| So I'm pro-life. | |
| So that, so the argument that, well, women will only be free if they're able to, you know, kill off their own offspring to me is really extremely off-colored. | |
| All right, guys, I brought the sound down. | |
| Calculum! | |
| Punch! | |
| Oh, shit, that's just those kind of loud, huh? | |
| All right, I brought it down to 50%. | |
| Calculum! | |
| Punch! | |
| That should be a better chat, right? | |
| Yeah, well, I guess if you frame it that way, everyone kind of has to agree with you. | |
| But when we're talking about abortion, when 99% take place in the first few weeks, when there's no thalamus, there's no cortex, there's no capacity for consciousness in the fetus that's developing, saying that that fetus that has no capacity to be conscious or wear anything else should have the same rights, same bodily autonomy as a woman, that is an obvious when you guys call them a simpete in the chat. | |
| That's funny. | |
| I mean, you're making my point for me that I'm actually making the point that people who are, you know, born with tremendous disabilities should just be killed because of cognitive functions and I don't remember saying that. | |
| When did I say that? | |
| The best argument, which again, this is sidetracking. | |
| Let's get back on track. | |
| I'm saying that if you're saying, no, I am saying that if you're saying that it's cognitive ability and at what scale conscious and just so we're clear, disabled people are conscious. | |
| They're aware. | |
| Okay. | |
| So the best argument that it is a life is the fact that you have to kill it. | |
| You have to have a procedure to kill it, right? | |
| So you have to intervene on the development. | |
| You called it a developing life. | |
| Sure. | |
| You have to go into your body and murder it. | |
| Notice how he's over here advocating for women on all this other bullshit, but then now he's sitting here saying, yeah, let's kill the baby. | |
| Let's kill the baby. | |
| Bro, these niggas are the worst, man. | |
| It's speaking that there's living human cells in a female. | |
| Again, so we can just tack that off because we just have a fundamental disagreement on whether or not you're not going to be able to do that. | |
| You can talk about paid maternity leave. | |
| People have been talking a lot about whether you have to be a mother, you have to work. | |
| A lot of women have to pick one or the other because in many cases, if you want to have a child, first of all, there's a big gap in your resume. | |
| So getting a job after that might be super difficult. | |
| And then secondly, even in the process of having that child, being pregnant, especially in the third trimester and then raising the child where the vast majority of the burden typically is on the mother, the workplace and our system of our economy is not tailored to make that easy for them. | |
| I actually totally agree with you. | |
| And this is this gets to the best. | |
| I don't know, actually. | |
| I'm agreeing with you that this pressure that you're describing exists for women. | |
| And I'm saying that it exists for women because of the feminists that came before who argued for women to enter the workplace. | |
| So what you're saying is the solution didn't work and it actually produced more problems. | |
| And now we have more problems and we need more governance to be able to tackle these problems. | |
| So you're not. | |
| And the system that's forcing women to make certain decisions, I just want to say, it's not forcing women to make women should have the option to choose, do I want to be a stay-at-home mom? | |
| Do I want to work? | |
| Do I have some mix of both? | |
| Right. | |
| That's the entire point here. | |
| But you are also making an argument that if you are a woman who does run a business and does have employees, that they should be forced to pay them maternity leave. | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| Okay, so under, let me. | |
| That's like saying taxes are 400. | |
| Yo, OSS, guys, can you guys do the Cookie Monster event stream with our guy, Corey Hughes, Tuesday, guys? | |
| You guys cool doing it next Tuesday? | |
| Because he's out of town Thursday. | |
| So to all my OSS guys, Cookie Monster event. | |
| OSS only. | |
| Most banned topic ever. | |
| Can't cover it on YouTube or even Rumble, for that matter. | |
| Next Tuesday, I'm thinking like 11 or 12 a.m. | |
| You ninjas want to do it or what? | |
| Let me know in the OSS chat. | |
| Assemble, guys. | |
| Time to assemble, ninjas. | |
| Let me know if you guys want to do it on Tuesday or you guys can do it on Tuesday. | |
| Because I know some of you guys probably want to catch it live and ask questions. | |
| Now, I can't do it Thursday, guys, because Corey Hughes isn't available. | |
| Corey Hughes is not available. | |
| So he asked for it tomorrow, but tomorrow we got Fresh and Fit. | |
| So it would have to be probably next Tuesday is what I'm thinking. | |
| No, I'm definitely not doing it on YouTube, bro. | |
| You niggas crazy. | |
| Hell no. | |
| We'll get banned instantly. | |
| Bro, if I did that stream on YouTube, I'd get banned midstream. | |
| 100% get banned midstream. | |
| 100% with that topic, bro. | |
| There's certain things the government YouTube niggas are saying are saying, yo, what's the cookie monster, bro? | |
| You niggas must be new here. | |
| That's great, though. | |
| That's great. | |
| That's to regulate our economy to ensure equality and justice and better outcomes. | |
| Okay, but just so you know, when you okay. | |
| Okay, so I see a lot of you guys are saying yes. | |
| All right, cool, cool, cool, cool. | |
| All right. | |
| Yeah, I'm thinking next Tuesday, chat. | |
| We'll do it. | |
| So basically, what I'll do, guys, I'll do my regular show at 5 p.m. | |
| Next week. | |
| I'll do the show. | |
| Then we'll go up until about like 11 p.m. | |
| And then so I'll stream for like five, six hours. | |
| Then we'll do it on OSS. | |
| I'm not doing it on Rumble because people are going to clip it, bro. | |
| So no, it's going to be OSS only. | |
| Because we're going to go deep. | |
| Also, this topic is illegal in like 20 countries, bro. | |
| It's not illegal in America, but it's illegal in like 20 other countries. | |
| Obviously, we got freedom of speech, but yeah, can't do it. | |
| I can't even do it on Rumble, bro. | |
| So yeah, we're going to do. | |
| No, nigga, don't wait for Europa. | |
| This is going to be better than Europa. | |
| You're going to have an actual researcher. | |
| What the hell? | |
| You're going to actually be able to ask questions and go through the thing with Corey Hughes, man. | |
| So yeah, it's going to be next Tuesday. | |
| Promo ends July 4th, guys. | |
| Price is going to go up back to $10. | |
| You get it now for four. | |
| So get it now so you guys can save your spot for this stream next week where we cover the cookie monster event because I definitely can't do that shit on YouTube, not even on Rumble, bro. | |
| Do that, like to a small business owner. | |
| So what you are arguing? | |
| Yo, I just told you guys I can't do Thursday because Corey Hughes isn't available. | |
| So it has to be next week. | |
| For is supporting big corporations and taking out the little guys because I'm arguing for supporting people that want to be mothers and also work at the same mechanism we do that way that can be subsidies, taxes. | |
| You guys can't just keep this. | |
| You can't say that we can't have the economic. | |
| We can't get down to the economics of what it actually implies, right? | |
| I have an economics degree and I can tell you if there's a small business degree. | |
| Well, what the fuck does that help with anything? | |
| You niggas are still stupid. | |
| Business that can't afford to pay maternity leave. | |
| The government might probably subsidize them and help cover the costs. | |
| Where is the government getting money from? | |
| This is like this is tax revenue. | |
| I mean, right, exactly. | |
| So from us. | |
| So from us, just to be clear, from us. | |
| And this is the thing that gets me about all of these debates. | |
| The magic solution that everybody has is that we just need to tax the government. | |
| Every other developed country has paid money. | |
| But it's not magic as in like the money is magical countries. | |
| The money is coming from you. | |
| It's coming from us. | |
| So you're sitting here. | |
| That's how taxes work. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And that's why those other countries pay like 50% of their fucking income to taxes, dude. | |
| The AK, they're socialists, man. | |
| That's what it's like, bro. | |
| What the fuck, man? | |
| We should be raising taxes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And this is the entire problem: the government is already taxing homes times two. | |
| And people are already struggling with what's being taken out of their taxes. | |
| Taxing capital gains properly or corporate profits properly. | |
| You have something that there's a reason that we should be taxing more here, there. | |
| The point is that the reason why families are having to be bringing in more revenue to help women be mothers. | |
| Yeah, let's go ahead and give the government, who's incredibly inefficient, more money so they can be even less efficient. | |
| Yes. | |
| What I'm saying is that you are just creating a cyclical argument. | |
| You're basically saying that women want to be able to have it all. | |
| Women cannot have it all because the government choice to do what they'd like. | |
| Okay, but you're saying women should be have the choice to have it all. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you're saying. | |
| That's a really interesting way of putting like what you're do you have it all right now where you're working and you're also yeah she does how do I sign up for the OSS I've ever been uh dived in a Balkan history of World War II crush has probably had the only real death camp um Bro, it's pinned at the top, man. | |
| Just click the link. | |
| Anti-Semcat. | |
| Literally, the link is pinned. | |
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| The website's right there, man. | |
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| Four bucks. | |
| Get in. | |
| Also, a mother? | |
| Is that having it all? | |
| I'm saying that it's not possible for women to have it all. | |
| It is impossible. | |
| And that's one of the things that's not. | |
| Whatever that is, is what I would want other women to have as well, which is the flexibility. | |
| Right. | |
| So you can get it. | |
| And most women can't get that, buddy. | |
| Most women are not going to get that, buddy. | |
| Job and also raise kids if they'd like. | |
| No, but that's exactly. | |
| You guys keep arguing that what people want is more flexibility. | |
| So you're acknowledging that right now, under with feminism on fire, we are agreeing. | |
| Women are going into the workforce. | |
| Like, I'm just kind of using a hyperbolic expression. | |
| It definitely is on fire. | |
| Women could do anything that they want nowadays, bro. | |
| They are more free now than ever before, despite this fucking retard saying this shit that they're not. | |
| They're absolutely. | |
| We are arguing that women need to have more opportunities. | |
| Women need to have more rights. | |
| They've taken that. | |
| Now you have them. | |
| I would argue women have more rights and opportunities than men do. | |
| We've overcorrected. | |
| We have absolutely overcorrected. | |
| Majority of people that are graduating with college degrees are, in fact, women. | |
| Men are committing suicide at a higher rate than women. | |
| We're looking around the world. | |
| Feminism also would push for increased awareness of men's mental health. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Great. | |
| You love feminism. | |
| That's great. | |
| We already know that. | |
| Most Americans agree with me, by the way. | |
| Like, women should have paid maternity leave. | |
| If you go issue by issue and by values, they might not associate with the term feminism because people like you have made it toxic. | |
| But the actual value of the money will move the goalpost and then this guy's a fucking bitch. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| When they begin taxing so that we can account for paid maternity leave for three months, which basically means a small business owner has to not have an employee while having to pay money. | |
| Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous, dude. | |
| No, this guy's a socialist, man. | |
| Oh, yeah, bro. | |
| Just give out free everything. | |
| Yeah, woo. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Free everything. | |
| Months and months and months. | |
| Like the person's not there. | |
| They're not actually. | |
| The problem with like guys like this guy's a socialist, man. | |
| Look, dude, if you want to be a socialist, that's cool, but that's not the United States, man. | |
| That's not the United States. | |
| This doesn't have the revenue to cover paid maternity leave. | |
| The government would probably subsidize them to make up the cost. | |
| No, I actually think that the way things were made more sense, where we had an environment where you could afford to take care of children with just one person bringing in income in the house. | |
| Is that possible in the current environment? | |
| You can obviously. | |
| When things are going to get way more expensive with these tariffs as well. | |
| Like it's not going to be easy to afford anything in the coming years. | |
| Is it going to happen overnight? | |
| No. | |
| But I think we need to be realistic about the fact that the first thing didn't work, right? | |
| The entire argument. | |
| The first thing was women entering the workforce is going to make everybody happier and richer. | |
| That was the best. | |
| The idea is that women having the choice to enter the workforce is better than them being forced to not do that. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's the argument. | |
| Okay. | |
| That actually is not the argument at all. | |
| The argument was that women would become, and I'm talking about what the feminists got ahead of, and this is why they're not going to be afraid of the menu. | |
| Like this imaginary Twitter feminist, but like right now you're talking to me and that's not the argument. | |
| I'm not actually debating an imaginary Twitter feminist. | |
| I'm speaking to you and I have no idea why you're being becoming increasingly more rude when I'm just rebutting your points that you're not going to be. | |
| No, you're not responding to my point. | |
| I am responding to your point. | |
| I'm saying that you're creating a cyclical argument where you keep saying that the thing that you just did that you said was going to be enough. | |
| What we actually need is for women to just enter the workforce. | |
| Oh, women are in the workforce and actually. | |
| Not enough. | |
| I'm saying we don't have enough. | |
| And I'm telling you that you're also not going to have enough because you're going to then get be complaining when you get that paid maternity leave. | |
| Because you're okay. | |
| Well, they are arguing for family paid leave. | |
| That's even better. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you might get. | |
| Do you think fathers should also be around to help raise children? | |
| I think who's going to work if everybody goes home every time a child is born? | |
| Everyone's going to have a kid. | |
| Pause. | |
| All right. | |
| Everyone will have a male partner. | |
| I've talked to you as well. | |
| My final claim is that feminism has made things easier for men. | |
| Hi. | |
| Hi. | |
| I'm Jen Andis. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| You said that feminism is easier for men or is it's made things I think easier in anxiety for men. | |
| Now men don't have to commit and they're being offered sex from women for free. | |
| So they have to actually affect all right. | |
| Feminism made things easier for men. | |
| I think she means from a sexual perspective, but it's not this I would actually kind of disagree with because it's made sex actually harder for men. | |
| But the top tier guys are killing it. | |
| So if you're a top tier guy, yeah, it's made it easier for you. | |
| Yeah, for sure. | |
| Effectively do less. | |
| But it's two completely different existences, bro. | |
| Like being a man as a average dude versus being a dude as a top tier guy, it's a completely different existence versus like being a woman that's like average looking versus a girl that's hot. | |
| Like it's going to be similar. | |
| Like, bro, there's mids on yachts, right? | |
| There's mids on yachts with hot bitches, but there's no brokey random regular niggas with higher tier guys. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| Like, it's not going to happen. | |
| And be motivated less because feminism has kind of insisted on this culture of sex and hooking up. | |
| And I think that that's has been a net negative for women. | |
| On good faith, I just want to say, I think. | |
| Yeah, that I would argue that she's correct there. | |
| In general, it's made it bad for women because all the power actually went to the men. | |
| And a lot of feminists don't know that. | |
| I've said it before. | |
| I'll say it again. | |
| Feminism inadvertently gave the power and leverage to men, to especially higher tier men. | |
| So, yeah, absolutely gave the power to them. | |
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| You know what I mean? | |
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| Like, you guys like this type of content? | |
| You guys got to thank the guys that support. | |
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| The camera's turned off. | |
| So, yeah, it's like 85 degrees in here. | |
| So, yeah, man. | |
| Definitely, you know, the grind. | |
| You guys, you know, keep the movement going, man. | |
| I really appreciate that shit. | |
| All right, let's see what this Asian shit got to say. | |
| With like the best interest for women, like, you think that is negative for women and harmful. | |
| And I think in some aspects, we can agree to that. | |
| I do think that there are some aspects of sex work or OnlyFans or whatnot that maybe men are definitely the huge consumers of. | |
| But if we are so concerned with women putting that out for free, it's not, it's charged, right? | |
| They're making money off of it. | |
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| Thank you so much, DBC. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| I got to call you after the show so we can figure out this camera shit, bro. | |
| Because I know you said that the kid, I got to fix the autofocus, you said. | |
| So thank you, brother. | |
| We're not putting the onus more on men for being the one that is in control of that demand, right? | |
| So we can take away the supply or, you know, condemn it all we want. | |
| But if there's no onus on men to be the consumers of said products, then wouldn't you think that would solve the issue that you're bringing up? | |
| Yeah, I actually agree with you on that. | |
| And I really get to that. | |
| I want to be very clear. | |
| When I say that I'm anti-feminist, this does not mean that I do not also criticize men. | |
| I think that's something that people get very wrong. | |
| Okay. | |
| 1,000% agree. | |
| I believe the problem was seeded by the feminist movement. | |
| I think the sex revolution and telling women, I mean, literally we're protesting. | |
| They didn't have their shirts on. | |
| And this used to be just, your grandparents couldn't even imagine this, like women walking down the street and having their boobs out and their butts out on Instagram. | |
| And it created an environment where men then had to work harder for a woman's affection, for a woman to take her clothes off, sex education in the classroom. | |
| There's this huge myth that people were just doing it. | |
| Like, you know, oh, we might as well teach them because the children are just doing it. | |
| Actually, before they introduced sex education, the majority of high school graduates were graduating with their virginity intact. | |
| And then within 10 years of sex education, we saw a reversal. | |
| So I'm saying feminism actually seeded the problem. | |
| And now the problem. | |
| According to CDC's youth risk behavior, 1991, 54% of high school schoolers reported having sexual intercourse. | |
| That number increased to 30 by 2021. | |
| It's bad. | |
| And it's also bad for men. | |
| It's harmful for men to be constantly exposed to porn. | |
| Interesting. | |
| You know why it decreased? | |
| I guarantee you it decreased from the male side, not from the female side. | |
| The bitches are smashing, bro. | |
| They definitely are. | |
| Pornography and soft pornography. | |
| And I think it actually in many ways emasculates men. | |
| But I would say they are the main social benefactors of that culture because, well, first and foremost, as we're talking about women who have to kind of pick one or the other or try to manage both and can we have it all, like, no, you can't have it all. | |
| On a day where I really feel like I gave a little bit more to my career, I ache because I go, okay, but like now I feel like I didn't give the same amount to my children. | |
| And it's a constant push and pull and it never feels enough. | |
| It really doesn't feel enough. | |
| So like to a degree, I think that feminism does benefit men. | |
| I think that it allows men to be more emotionally intelligent, allows them to understand what that looks like and also be able to connect emotionally intelligent, man. | |
| I hate that fucking term. | |
| With other people, right? | |
| But at the same time, there's so much work that feminism has done for women that to say that it benefits men more, I don't think is an accurate statement. | |
| For example, Title IX has made it very possible for women to go to college, 600% more so, right? | |
| And I think that that is a huge benefit. | |
| Yeah, even though their sports don't generate as much money and their sports suck, their sports now have to get as much funding as the men's sports, which is fucking retarded because women get all the same funding even though their sport sucks and nobody watches it, which is hilarious. | |
| So in college, which is a make-believe world, meritocracy doesn't matter. | |
| Also, guys, we are 50 away from 4,000, man. | |
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| Benefit that we can credit to the feminist movement. | |
| Though I understand your point, though, of trying to say that like sex work is harmful for women and more beneficial for men because they're benefiting from it the most. | |
| But at the same time, if you think they're also suffering from it. | |
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| Ozzyaz, during Fresh's show with Zerka, DDG was brought up and the people in the room said fuck him. | |
| But Fresh started defending him and saying he was a fan. | |
| You know, said he doesn't know how he didn't like how you handled him. | |
| I don't know why you what's the point of that? | |
| What was the point of that, Ozzy Az? | |
| Does that not contradict your point? | |
| Yeah, so I disagree on the fact that, and we do agree that more women are going to college, more actually more women than men are graduating with college degrees. | |
| And despite that, people are saying that we still live under a patriarchy. | |
| Women are free to start their own companies. | |
| Women are free to pay women whatever they want to pay. | |
| Women could hire and in some cases do hire all women. | |
| And so I don't, I don't really understand, which wasn't your argument, to be fair, the idea that even with all of that freedom, women are still not able to achieve what men are able to achieve. | |
| I think college education actually has increased women's stress. | |
| And I'm talking about in terms of how expensive it is. | |
| And I know you're going to then say, well, the solution to that is we have to then move the goalpost. | |
| And I'm guessing here. | |
| But like college should be free. | |
| Everything should be free. | |
| He thinks that. | |
| Well, I think, you know, we just need more free stuff. | |
| And obviously, nothing's free. | |
| We're talking, we're just going to tax. | |
| If I did contact you, I think the issue that we keep coming back to is that you believe that women would be happiest in the home where they don't have to work. | |
| And I think most people in general probably wouldn't like want to work anyways. | |
| But I think the main issue that we keep avoiding is that this is not an issue created by feminism. | |
| This is an issue created by capitalism. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I've heard this argument that it's an issue created by capitalism. | |
| But you don't agree. | |
| You think feminism is the greater issue than this system. | |
| I think that now the issue. | |
| Money to live. | |
| Well, we have to spend more money to live. | |
| I think in large part because feminists got duped by the government. | |
| And I think we just keep further enslaving ourselves to the government. | |
| I'm not a person who believes in big government and you find that feminists are constantly like, well, we can deal with the college issue. | |
| We just need more government. | |
| We can deal with the, you know, needing to have more benefits. | |
| We just need more government. | |
| So it's like, okay, every household 100%. | |
| And I'm trying to prevent that. | |
| And I'm saying that there was a time in America. | |
| And what's aspirational for me is I was raised in part by my grandparents. | |
| They were very happy. | |
| They were just, I lived in that environment of what that looked like. | |
| And I think for many of people who didn't grow up there, feminism has taught us. | |
| And I say this as someone who had to take feminism 101 courses when I was in college, that it was like this nightmare and people weren't happy and people were suffering and women were just people were being forced and that there weren't actually these things that just marriages that worked, that the women actually weren't disempowered by being the CEOs of their household. | |
| Well, allowing women. | |
| Shout out to Montezino. | |
| Appreciate that, my friend, with the five gifted. | |
| Appreciate you very much, my friend. | |
| And you guys, you guys got Mordecai showing up on the screen, man. | |
| To have more choice and freedom to leave. | |
| Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority. | |
| I did Atlant Enjoy this conversation. | |
| Ain't very respectful. | |
| By the majority. | |
| I did Atlant Enjoy this conversation. | |
| I think very respectful. | |
| I was thinking that a lot of your claims are very contradictory, saying that we live in a matriarchy, that men benefit from feminism more. | |
| I would like to understand why, again, you think that men benefit from feminism more. | |
| Basically, because men don't have to commit to women. | |
| Men are still able to do what they're doing. | |
| And they are allowed to basically step away from all of the responsibilities of what it really meant to be a man and lead a household. | |
| And that's in large part, I think, due to the sexual revolution. | |
| I mean, is it really bad that we don't have to give men the chase? | |
| Don't they have gratification from chasing us? | |
| Like, it's a hunter versus prey situation to me. | |
| So I could already tell this bitch is retarded. | |
| She's a bimbo 100%. | |
| I feel like a lot of relationships, especially back then, were based on trying to get to home run like very fast. | |
| And now that we have the freedom to not commit and not tie ourselves to one man for the whole definitely a whore. | |
| Okay, guys, we hit 4,000. | |
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| Let's get to 100% engagement. | |
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| Thank you so much, brother. | |
| I appreciate that. | |
| The rest of our life, I just don't necessarily think that's bad. | |
| I just don't think the revolution has decreased our value. | |
| We're not chewed gum. | |
| We're people who got no chewed gum, band, if we're going to be honest here. | |
| Speaking of which, man, I got to give credit to my guy, Brett. | |
| Look at this video I made on JFK real quick. | |
| Quick little side note here. | |
| Oh. | |
| John F. Kennedy was anti-Israel having a nuclear bomb. | |
| He was not a fan of Israel. | |
| He did not like Ben-Gurion. | |
| Ben-Guria lied to him, said that they don't have a nuclear program when they really did. | |
| When he sent inspectors in, he had like a fake nuclear facility set up that was not real. | |
| JFK knew this. | |
| He hated it. | |
| So him and his brother effectively worked to not only get APAC, he tried to get them to register in Nefarah. | |
| This was his brother, Robert F. Kennedy, RFK, and John F. Kennedy, who's trying to get the nuclear inspections. | |
| The next thing you know, both of them end up dead and assassinated through peculiar means. | |
| We'll just say it that way. | |
| So Israel ends up getting a nuclear bomb shortly after John F. Kenny was killed in 1963 because the president that came and replaced it, John F. Kennedy was this guy right here, Lyndon B. Johnson. | |
| You can thank him for the unequivocal support of Israel that we currently exercise now as part of our foreign policy. | |
| Lyndon B. Johnson was the first president to come in and basically have this, we're going to give Israel whatever they want. | |
| Foreign aid, triple pretty much under his reign. | |
| We've stopped the nuclear inspections. | |
| We stopped making them register in Nefarah. | |
| And Linda B. Johnson was the beginning of a very pro-Israel America. | |
| And ever since after Linda B. Johnson, we've adopted this very unequivocal support of Israel and they're our greatest ally. | |
| Bro, let's go, baby. | |
| Yo, nice clip from Brett, man. | |
| You guys can see Brett is putting in the work, baby. | |
| So, so yeah, man, here's a clip, guys. | |
| Do me a favor. | |
| If I could get the troops to rally and support this, open up the video, man. | |
| Play it another tab for me, guys. | |
| Smash the like button. | |
| Let's get a couple hundred actual views and likes on this thing. | |
| This thing needs more fucking views, man. | |
| This is a great video right here. | |
| Nice and summarized, man. | |
| And this is the type of shit that got me in trouble with fucking YouTube. | |
| But yeah, the editing is fire, bro. | |
| So guys, for all you bajas niggas, bro, why do you pay your clippers so much? | |
| Yo, if you want good content, you got to fucking invest, man. | |
| Like, I'm not going to fucking not take care of my people. | |
| So, so yeah, bro, that's, that's, um, that's, that's kind of what it is. | |
| You got to take care of the people. | |
| Got to take care of the people. | |
| So, shout out to my guy, Brett. | |
| Fantastic fucking video that he made here. | |
| Um, smash the like button, guys. | |
| I dropped the link in there. | |
| I'm dropping a link for you guys right now on OSS and on Rumble and on Kick. | |
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| Share with a friend. | |
| This is a truth on JFK. | |
| They don't want you guys to know. | |
| Value connection. | |
| And sex doesn't always have to have this deep meaning. | |
| It is just connection and intimacy between two people who trust each other. | |
| And why do we have to deny women that's gratification? | |
| Like men, you say, that are wired to want that. | |
| Why not women? | |
| Why? | |
| Well, we, again, I go back to just our basic biological differences. | |
| There was a really interesting book that was done by a biophysicist. | |
| He, I think, recently passed away named Edward O. Wilson, where he just sort of breaks down the biological arguments. | |
| Basically, he looks in the wild to see the behavior of animals. | |
| His thesis is just that you can never, you basically can never beat your own biology. | |
| And then he kind of compares it to what we see here as just humans and our social interactions and things that have been abundantly clear when you look at every civilization over time, whether it's from, you know, 400 BC to LA today. | |
| What are these habits that you can see that never go away? | |
| And people coming together and starting families is one of these things because we are biologically wired to find a family, to settle down and to have children. | |
| And I think when you have women that are going out and they're giving all of the goods up for free. | |
| The goods. | |
| I'm not going to say, I'm not going to buy the goods up for free. | |
| Men. | |
| We want to buy the goods for free from men and that we are very actually very happy with. | |
| That's the see. | |
| She thinks that sex is. | |
| Yeah. | |
| This bitch is retarded. | |
| Okay. | |
| Candace, you can't save them all, bro. | |
| Connections. | |
| We're not sockeyed salmon. | |
| We're not made to breed and have families and then die. | |
| You are welcome to do that. | |
| I'm just saying that when it comes time for you to find a partner, you may find yourself in a circumstance where men don't value you as high because men like, like you spoke to, men like to compete. | |
| They like to feel like they've won something. | |
| I'd like to deprive men of the because they don't need to have that. | |
| That's actually like, that's actually what you did bring up. | |
| You did bring up. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| And that's what you say that men are, you know, essentially predatory and we have the goods that we have to keep from them. | |
| Oh, I didn't mean the goods in a bad way. | |
| But that's such an objectifying way. | |
| The goods, what the grocery goods? | |
| Honestly, I think, I think that that's just kind of colloquial songs today. | |
| I think they have value apart from how many people we sleep with, how many, like you also devalue education for women. | |
| And I think that's very interesting because you're also a very educated woman. | |
| And in a lot of ways, this is just like an observation. | |
| You devalue yourself a lot. | |
| I definitely do not feel like I'm devaluing myself. | |
| Make him a sandwich. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes. | |
| Which is why I love my best friends. | |
| Yes. | |
| Feed your men and everything. | |
| Feed the people that you love. | |
| Because family isn't defined just by your partner or your kids. | |
| family is community and you should care about your community and understanding that yeah this woman is cooked bro bro This is why, like, this rhetoric that she's giving, this is like, this is how modern women think in America. | |
| This is how they think. | |
| And like, this is why a lot of them just are never able to keep a guy cooked. | |
| I just don't think you really care. | |
| All right, we're 48, 40, almost 4,100, guys. | |
| Smash that like Molly's gets a 4,200, man. | |
| 4,200. | |
| Let's get to it. | |
| Care about the community that much when you're pushing this rhetoric of devaluing women so much to stay in the kitchen, stay within the home. | |
| It's actually valuing yourself more because you're not exposing yourself to the bullshit of, you know, outside, being around a bunch of men, being a 304, hurting your value. | |
| She doesn't understand that women are supposed to preserve their value, right? | |
| And it's sad because, you know, Asians typically understand this, but she doesn't. | |
| And also saying that they're wasting money on college when education is very important. | |
| There's a lot of scientists. | |
| You've been voted out. | |
| You've been voting out. | |
| Of course, tattoo face. | |
| Hello. | |
| Hi, how are you? | |
| What's your name? | |
| I'm Zella Stone. | |
| Very nice to meet you, Zelia. | |
| Very pretty eyes. | |
| Thank you. | |
| And then she ruined it by putting faith on her face and this stupid ass tattoo on her neck. | |
| Bro, these women are stupid. | |
| See, this is why the father is important. | |
| Father would have told her, No, you can't put that shit on your face. | |
| You make yourself look stupid, make me look stupid in the process. | |
| What the hell is wrong with you? | |
| Um, so you keep talking about hey guys, do me a favor, smash that like button again. | |
| We're almost at 4,200, almost at 100% engagement. | |
| Let's get to 100% engagement and then we can stop fucking smashing the like button about OnlyFans and Kim Kardashian. | |
| And well, I do OnlyFans. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I'm a stripper as well. | |
| Well, I'm mainly a recording artist, but I do that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, cooked. | |
| Absolutely fucking cooked, bro. | |
| Holy. | |
| Holy. | |
| How you got faith on your fucking face and you're a fucking thought. | |
| Only faith I got is that you're going to be sucking some dick. | |
| To fund the music. | |
| Okay. | |
| But, you know, you're saying basically that we kind of like devalue ourselves, but at the same time, I'm celibate. | |
| I still consider myself okay, guys. | |
| Let's translate some womanies for you guys. | |
| Okay. | |
| Womanies 101. | |
| When a girl tells you I'm celibate, what that really means is I was a whore or I recently was just acting like one. | |
| So I'm going to go ahead and take a period of cleansing. | |
| And I am now celibate. | |
| Anytime a girl tells you that she's celibate, that's a red flag. | |
| She was a whore. | |
| Okay. | |
| She either just got done going on a fucking rampage or has done a rampage her entire life and now she's celibate. | |
| But one of those two things happens. | |
| When they say I'm celibate now, 304. | |
| 30 fucking four, bro. | |
| Myself, a woman of God. | |
| And so, you know, not all of us. | |
| Woman of God, but you're a stripper doing OnlyFans. | |
| Bro, these bitches are cooked, bro. | |
| Nigga, what the fuck? | |
| Bruh. | |
| Us are just out there just, oh, hey, showing the goods, you know, like we do respect our bodies still. | |
| So I don't like that you how do you, how do you, how do you respect your body by showing it to random dudes in a strip club and this as they throw money on you and playing fucking back that ass up? | |
| How is that like what? | |
| Kind of putting us all in one box. | |
| Yes. | |
| So we have to, in order to have debates, we have to make generalizations. | |
| Of course, there can be some exceptions to the rule. | |
| But what I'm trying to understand is how can you say that you're not, you know, giving up your body if you are a stripper? | |
| Well, because I said I'm celibate. | |
| I still want to get married. | |
| I still want to have kids. | |
| And for some of us, it's hard for us to have kids. | |
| And I've also dealt with sexual abuse since a child, you know. | |
| So I wasn't doing any sexual work as a child, you know, and still went through things like that. | |
| So I first want to say perfectly sympathetic to everything you're saying, especially if you come from an environment where you've lived through something when you're a kid, it makes it infinitely harder. | |
| And it's actually a reason why so many people turn to sex work because they don't have that structure at home that gives them, I think, other options. | |
| But would you agree with me that if you could, like, that wouldn't happen? | |
| I have to go to college for music production. | |
| For music protection. | |
| I went to LA recording school. | |
| Okay. | |
| So did you decide to be a stripper because of economic restraint or because of freedom? | |
| For freedom. | |
| You know, we want the choice to do. | |
| Isn't that interesting? | |
| She stripped so she could be free, but what she doesn't realize is you end up becoming a slave. | |
| And I'll tell you guys why. | |
| When you become a dancer, guys, let me tell you guys about women that get into sex work. | |
| It's very fucking difficult, okay, to get out. | |
| The problem is that women that do sex work, right? | |
| Fast money, I always say this, one of my phrases, right? | |
| Is fast money comes with slow problems. | |
| And when girls get into sex work and they make money quickly, we're talking about a woman that doesn't have any tangible skills. | |
| Okay. | |
| Most dancers, a lot of the times. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Most dancers, guys, don't have any real tangible skills. | |
| Hence why they have to be dancers. | |
| Okay. | |
| They have like maybe a low-paying job. | |
| They don't make that much money. | |
| So one way that they can make quick money is they can dance. | |
| Guys, a girl can easily go into a club and make $1,000 a night, $2,000 a weekend. | |
| You multiply that by four. | |
| You know, that's $8,000 to $10,000 a month, working only eight days, right? | |
| So what ends up happening is the women make the money quick and they don't have any real skill sets and they don't feel the need to learn any of the other skill sets because they're making this money so quick. | |
| This is why strippers that say, I'm going to college, they almost never finish. | |
| Okay. | |
| Very rarely do they finish. | |
| So they go ahead, they make this money, etc. | |
| And then it's like they can't work a regular job anymore. | |
| You're going to tell me they're going to work a regular job making $10 an hour when they can go work for a couple hours and make $1,000 a night? | |
| No. | |
| They're Fenito. | |
| They can't do regular jobs no more. | |
| It's over. | |
| Okay. | |
| So what ends up happening is they end up on the perpetual stripping pole for a very long time. | |
| And it's hard for them to get out of that life. | |
| Damn near impossible. | |
| Because during the tenure of them being dancers, they didn't learn any tangible skills. | |
| So since they didn't learn any tangible skills, they need to keep relying upon and doing the fucking dancing to make the money. | |
| And then also a lot of these strippers have bad spending habits. | |
| They do drugs to dance. | |
| They drink all the time to dance. | |
| So you add in the fact that a lot of them aren't educated. | |
| You add in the fact that a lot of them don't have any tangible skills. | |
| They're using drugs and they're drinking alcohol all the time. | |
| What the fuck do you think is going to happen? | |
| It's going to be a spiral. | |
| And then you end up like this fucking girl with faith tattooed on your face saying, I'm celibate. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Yeah, you're celibate now. | |
| But we know that's used goods. | |
| Do whatever we want with our bodies. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know, I don't think it matters if you if it doesn't matter though. | |
| Why the fuck are you celibate, bitch? | |
| If it doesn't bother you and you're so proud about your fucking job, et cetera, you do all this shit. | |
| Why are you celibate now? | |
| See, her celibacy was to regain some composure of her brain. | |
| Women will sit there and make it sound like they can go ahead and sport fuck their way through life and be hoes with zero consequence, but the reality is they can't fucking do it. | |
| There's a reason why it's called hot girl summer and not hot girl life. | |
| Okay. | |
| Women can't be career-long sluts. | |
| They just can't do it, bro. | |
| They can't do it. | |
| Some girls can stay out of cock carousel longer than others. | |
| Albanus for wine. | |
| I appreciate you, bro, with a gifted sub. | |
| But yeah, some girls can stay on the cock carousel longer than others, but they all got to get off at some point, bro. | |
| They all got to get off at some point. | |
| And the girls that have been on the cock carousel the longest, they're the ones that got to go, I'm celibate now. | |
| I'm lesbian now. | |
| I have therapy now because being a whore fucks you up as a woman. | |
| So when it comes to dancers and women that do sex work, they almost can never leave it because it's too high paying and they don't learn any real tangible skill sets while they're doing it because it's so high paying and they can't go back to a regular job and end up getting a drug problem and an alcohol problem in the middle of it. | |
| Nine out of 10 times, bro. | |
| Damn near impossible. | |
| You do want to dress how you want to dress. | |
| That doesn't mean, oh, you can, you know, sexually abuse or sexually harass. | |
| Do you think men that are being brought into the strip clubs to watch you? | |
| Do you think that they're walking away and going, I did that because that woman was empowered to take off her clothes? | |
| Here we go. | |
| Or do you think that they're actually devaluing women? | |
| No, I get it. | |
| I used to be that hypocrite. | |
| You know, I said things that I said I would never do anything like that. | |
| You know, like I totally get that. | |
| But some people just want to go to the club and have a good time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think most people. | |
| That's not what she asked you, Retard. | |
| Well, who are making those decisions are doing it because they have they're dealing with addictions themselves. | |
| I think you're worth more than taking your clothes off. | |
| I think that if you wanted now, this is powerful because here's the thing. | |
| See what she, and this is what I like about Candace because she enjoys talking to the, she told me this behind the scenes, like she wants to save hoes, which is fine. | |
| Like that's a noble ambition. | |
| This is what she really, I think this is why she does what she does, to be honest with y'all, is she wants to keep, she wants to get women off the stripper pole. | |
| And remember, guys, like you guys know what I say, you know, once you're at thought, it's over. | |
| It's a wrap. | |
| Like it is what it is, man, with these hoes. | |
| But people like Candice, right? | |
| She's a woman too. | |
| So she wants to save these chicks, which I understand. | |
| She has a different mission. | |
| Like, I want to save guys. | |
| She wants to save women. | |
| So I understand it. | |
| And this is kind of where she shines. | |
| And this is why it's so important to have people like Candace because she's a woman and she could talk to them on another level, right? | |
| It's not going to be the same when I come in and say, hey, you're better than taking your clothes off. | |
| She's going to think I'm like some monkey simp nigga that's trying to smash and be a nice guy. | |
| It doesn't come off genuine. | |
| It's very difficult for a guy to like come in and like try to give a woman advice like this without it like without them thinking that there's ulterior motives. | |
| And here's the thing. | |
| She's a stripper. | |
| Let's keep it all the way a thousand. | |
| Strippers are used to fucking dudes being on some weird shit. | |
| So every guy that tries to act nice or whatever, they're trying to finesse their gull one over. | |
| So strippers are very apprehensive around men. | |
| Okay. | |
| They don't trust men. | |
| Rightfully so. | |
| They do a lot of fucking scumbags. | |
| A lot of underlings in the underworld go into these fucking strip clubs, guys. | |
| Strip clubs are filled with degenerate fucking losers. | |
| So I get it. | |
| But when someone like Candice is going to come in and say, hey, look, I think you're better than that, right? | |
| That's powerful. | |
| That's going to have more potency than someone like me saying that shit because you're going to think, oh, this nigga's just trying to smash. | |
| Fuck this thing. | |
| I don't care what he got to say. | |
| Right? | |
| Because she's heard that all the time. | |
| Oh, I can save you, baby. | |
| Oh, you better than this, blah, blah, blah. | |
| But when another woman is saying it that actually has some merit, it has a little bit more oomph. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| So this is why I say, like, you know, there is a place for women in the content game with helping women like this trying to get off the poll. | |
| Now, is she going to get off the poll? | |
| Probably not. | |
| But you know what? | |
| Some other girl might be watching this and say, damn, I thought about dancing, but now I'm not going to do it. | |
| You know? | |
| So that is important. | |
| To have a career in music, you wouldn't have to take your clothes off to do that. | |
| And I think that it's sad that you've been. | |
| Every story is different. | |
| Every story is different. | |
| But I do think that, you know, we can make a generalization. | |
| I was at that point where I was going to college. | |
| I was working three jobs. | |
| I used to be a nurse. | |
| So you just. | |
| Oh, even worse. | |
| So you had the ability where you had a job where you could make six figures, but you still decided to be a fucking thought. | |
| Even worse, bro. | |
| Falcon! | |
| Punch! | |
| I have even less respect for women that used to be nurses or that dumbass lawyer had a real career and you gave that shit up to be a slut. | |
| You took the easy way out, quite literally, took the easy way out. | |
| Don't know the situations. | |
| You don't know how life is going to turn out. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | |
| You had a six-figure job and you decided to be a stripper, bro. | |
| Nobody felt that's even less, even worse. | |
| That's why Jasmine, the lawyer, she deserves all the fucking shit she gets because you were a lawyer and you gave up that shit to be a whore. | |
| Well, they make a lot of money now. | |
| Okay, well, you sold your soul. | |
| Cool. | |
| Sold your soul for feminism. | |
| You're not feeling it now because you got all these simps on you, but 20, 30 years from now, when that BBL starts to sag, when niggas aren't checking for you no more, when you're not making 100K a month on fucking OnlyFans no more because some new bitches there making the money, what are you going to have? | |
| Cooked, man. | |
| Cooked. | |
| Because nobody gives a shit about your opinions when you're a whore. | |
| Nigga, that's how I be talking, bro. | |
| That's what I've been thinking in my head. | |
| When these women are over here, like trying to give their opinion, and I know that they're sluts. | |
| Literally, bro, I'm like Shao Kahn, man. | |
| The ups and downs, but no, I didn't want to do it. | |
| Join OSS today. | |
| That comes from Mango Old Passion. | |
| Thank you so much, guys. | |
| A bunch of you guys have been joining. | |
| Bro, we might hit 1,800 tonight, bro. | |
| I'll tell y'all this. | |
| I'll tell y'all this. | |
| If we hit 1,800, I'll fucking go on OME TV and debate some IDF soldiers. | |
| How about that, chat? | |
| I was going to finish this video for you guys because obviously DPG. | |
| But I'll tell you guys this. | |
| If we hit 1,800 active supporters tonight, and we hit 500, by the way, on the Discord. | |
| So we're cooking, baby. | |
| We're cooking. | |
| We got the fuck. | |
| We trimmed the fat out. | |
| Those bitch ass niggas that were saying pause, unpause the video, right? | |
| Got those fucking losers out. | |
| See them niggas tomorrow, time them out for 24 hours. | |
| They can go to the corner and think about what they did. | |
| Stupid fucks. | |
| But if we hit 1,800, I'll go ahead and I'll turn on the OME TV and I'll go debate some IDF soldiers. | |
| So let's go, baby. | |
| You guys like that shit? | |
| When I debate the people in Israel. | |
| So let's go ahead. | |
| You guys got, let's grab like 43 more. | |
| We got 4,420 of you guys watching, 6,000 plus between all the platforms. | |
| We got, yeah. | |
| Shouldn't be too hard. | |
| Join the OSS ninjas. | |
| This is the fucking community. | |
| We got a Discord. | |
| Got a Telegram group for the active members. | |
| Great community of guys in there. | |
| Fucking hilarious. | |
| They post on there. | |
| All the content is on OSS. | |
| Timestamps are in there in every video. | |
| You can watch on there. | |
| You can join the chat. | |
| The chat is awesome for the OSS. | |
| I'm going to make it where it's members only probably soon once we end the sale. | |
| It's going to be only members can be in there chatting because that way you guys get the discount. | |
| Because when you send in the chat through OSS, I read your chat on air, no matter what the price point is. | |
| But I'll give you guys a taste. | |
| You guys that are watching on YouTube, pause or rumble, especially the Rumble guys. | |
| That's the OSS stream. | |
| Go in there and look at the chat. | |
| It's hilarious, bro. | |
| Dudes post memes in there and everything. | |
| It's fucking awesome. | |
| You guys can't see it on the stream because obviously it just shows the text. | |
| It doesn't show the memes. | |
| But go in there, bro. | |
| It's fucking funny. | |
| I put it in there for you guys on Kick, Rumble, and YouTube. | |
| You guys can go in there completely for free. | |
| Go in there, see what they're saying. | |
| Completely for free. | |
| You can engage. | |
| But starting like this week, I'm going to close out the chat, make it supporters only. | |
| So the guys in there get the benefit of sending in the super chats and getting them read and getting attention and all that other shit, like getting my attention for polls and shit like that for the show. | |
| So, anyway, let's keep cooking, though, chat. | |
| 1800, now stay on and we'll fucking debate some IDF soldiers after this video. | |
| But in my situation and things that I went through. | |
| They're making a telegram right now, guys. | |
| Talk to Brett. | |
| Brett is handling that. | |
| It's something that it just. | |
| But I'm actually really glad that you said, no, I didn't want to do it. | |
| And you were put in a situation where you had to do it because I think that's really honest. | |
| And I think the problem that I find with feminism is that it's tremendously, it's a dishonest movement. | |
| All right, guys, pause. | |
| You've been voted out by the majority. | |
| Thanks for coming. | |
| I'm not judging. | |
| Nice to meet you. | |
| Catherine, Candace. | |
| You brought up a book about that we are going to biology and that biology is what we should organize society on based on like what skills men are good at. | |
| I can restate what I said. | |
| That there is a book. | |
| 20 likes, guys, and we'll be at 100% engagement, man. | |
| Smash that like button if you're watching on YouTube. | |
| Can't join OSS, can't afford. | |
| No problem. | |
| Just smash the like button. | |
| Support the channel, man. | |
| The argument that's being made is that you can't override. | |
| You can't outthink your biology is the easiest way to say it. | |
| So feminism, I would say, is a movement where they are trying to outthink biology, meaning that all we have to do is this, this, this, this, and that. | |
| And then magically we're going to be transformed. | |
| And that desire within us to want to start a family is just going to like die or we're going to be happier doing this thing. | |
| And I think the answer to that is no. | |
| Right. | |
| I would argue that our biology does not have as much of an effect on the things that we choose to do with our careers, with our life choices as you think it does. | |
| Our closest ancestors are chimps and bonobos. | |
| Bonobos are matriarchal chimps, are patriarchal. | |
| So, and our previous societies have run egalitarian for millennia. | |
| It's not been this inherent desire for men to rule a certain way and women to rule another way. | |
| It has been egalitarian. | |
| It's been matriarchal. | |
| It's been patriarchal because there are things that go into affect like your situation, your personality that make you better at doing something than just your biology. | |
| I know many quiet, nerdy men that would not be good leaders, and I know many strong women and vice versa. | |
| Like it does not matter as based your testosterone and the hormones you admit, it's not going to have as much of an effect as I think you think it does. | |
| I totally think it does. | |
| And so that's why what's getting back to college, since I'm assuming you support women going to college. | |
| Can you explain why there is when they can freely choose? | |
| 304 lines are crazy. | |
| Why there is such a difference in the majors that women choose versus the majors that men choose when they get to college? | |
| Well, I think it's also important to note that things are changing and there's like many initiatives to get more women into STEM to get women into higher paying career fields. | |
| When women have been kept out of these fields for so long, it's the slow and steady race to get them there. | |
| It's not that women are not choosing them. | |
| They're slowly learning that this is okay for them to choose. | |
| There's more women in STEM. | |
| There's more lawyers. | |
| There's more women. | |
| Women are making up strides to those positions. | |
| So it's not like they're sedentary and they're staying in these humanities or arts fields. | |
| I don't think you're being honest. | |
| I think you know, like if did you go to college? | |
| I mean, I'm in college. | |
| I think I know that women aren't, it's not because they're not pressured. | |
| It's because when quite literally they say, what are you interested in? | |
| Women flock to certain things. | |
| They just do. | |
| We do. | |
| We as a whole do. | |
| It tends to be, and this is because we are biologically wired. | |
| And even when a child is born, when a woman, like a female child versus a male child, the girls. | |
| Joshua Josiah Monte, so glad you have 4K on Rumble. | |
| That was the only thing that swayed me from watching on that platform. | |
| Do you have any diet plans available or fitness tips? | |
| Put yourself in a calorie deficit, bro. | |
| I might do an episode on fitness for you guys on the OSS as well for you, ninjas. | |
| Might do something like that. | |
| So yeah, but no, man, I'm glad that you like watching on Rumble. | |
| Yeah, guys, we have 4K capability on Rumble. | |
| I stream on 4K on Rumble and I stream 4K on YouTube for you ninjas. | |
| Even on YouTube, even though I fucking don't get paid on there, I still stream on 4K for you ninjas because I want you guys to have a good experience. | |
| Dealing with the cheapskate trolls and the idiots. | |
| Hey, man, I do it for you niggas because look, just because there's like 10 or 20 retards doesn't mean that the other tens of thousands of you guys, you know, don't fuck with the content. | |
| Don't fuck with the movement. | |
| So still do it for you guys. | |
| Start speaking faster and they speak more words. | |
| Just a fact, right? | |
| For the rest of their lives. | |
| Like my daughter started speaking. | |
| And this is not anecdotal, but this is, I'm giving you an anecdotal example of something that is a real fact. | |
| So there's just a biological proclivity there that women like communication. | |
| And you see that followed all the way. | |
| Kadim on Rumble said, hey, bro, keep out the go work. | |
| I love what you do. | |
| Please start more debates. | |
| I really think you have a solid politician. | |
| Get some real stuff done. | |
| Hey, man, them boys will never let me get in, bro. | |
| Them boys will never, ever, ever let me get in, man. | |
| As an example, into college, women are drawn toward these careers that are compassionate, emotional, and communicative, which is why you'll see women flooding journalism. | |
| That's why even when you see women that are finding success, they are typically in careers that are communicative and compassionate. | |
| Women that will say, I want to do psychology. | |
| I want to do children's stuff. | |
| Let me read some chats real quick. | |
| Let's work towards Mari getting a yacht and calling it SSMG. | |
| Nah, man, no yachts, bro. | |
| Guys, I invest all that money back into the show, bro. | |
| Like I told y'all before, I spent 16K on this channel alone, bro. | |
| No. | |
| No, like 20,000, guys. | |
| Spend 20,000 today on this channel, guys. | |
| Literally today for this channel. | |
| So actually 22,000 because I bought a generator. | |
| So last week, guys, you guys know the battery ran out, right? | |
| Last week, when I was out there debating, battery fucking died, went down and shit like that. | |
| Guess what I did? | |
| I went and bought a fucking generator. | |
| $2,000. | |
| It's the big fucking thing. | |
| So we should be able to run with no goddamn problems now. | |
| Let's go, baby. | |
| Stupid. | |
| No more stupid fucking problems. | |
| We're going to keep cooking. | |
| Welcome! | |
| Punch! | |
| All right, hey, bro, keep it a good work. | |
| Love what you do. | |
| Please start. | |
| Oh, read that one before. | |
| Big up to Myron. | |
| Keep per usual. | |
| Keep killing it. | |
| Hey, I got you, man. | |
| This Friday, guys, I don't think we're going to do a debate because it's going to be raining. | |
| So we're going to do a subaton. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Deness supports Israel to help his son's political career. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| For the dudes complaining about you pausing, just keep it 15 seconds like I do. | |
| By the way, I subscribe to OSS. | |
| Thank you, G. Canto. | |
| Thank you so much, bro. | |
| Yeah, bro, you got common sense. | |
| Join OSS today, W. Martin. | |
| root rebellion with the funny picture bro this nigga with the i see what you did bro um Fresh as dog. | |
| All the strippers I've smashed have let me hit raw and busting out inside. | |
| Thankfully, some numb got pregnant. | |
| Fresh as dog. | |
| What the fuck, nigga? | |
| All right, what's your thoughts on Big Beautiful Bill? | |
| Good or terrible? | |
| I'm going to cover it tomorrow. | |
| Hey, Myron, this still got me banned on your account. | |
| Your wife lover? | |
| She told kind of she devalues herself like, yikes, Myron. | |
| I know you stream on X, but will you be hosting more Xbaces? | |
| You fire my drives up while working. | |
| Love from Callie. | |
| I want to do one clan meeting a week. | |
| Or sorry, a month. | |
| Only for, it's going to be for OSS guys, though. | |
| So like you guys got only mics will, I'll give mics to OSS guys. | |
| Ozzy Out says, the point is why he's passing defending the guy that accused him of snaking you and that you beef with. | |
| That's not how loyalty works. | |
| It starts at an hour, 15-minute mark, June 24th upload. | |
| I'm not going to bother watching it, bro, because I don't care. | |
| I don't know why you care so much. | |
| Craig Cass, appreciate you, Myron, for all the hard work you put to keep us in. | |
| Shout out to Model's gifted a sub. | |
| Thank you, bro, for getting Mordecai on the stream. | |
| Bro, that fucking gif is funny, bro. | |
| Or noodles, sorry. | |
| Every time you guys donate, bro, that fucking Mordecai digger comes on. | |
| That's funny, bro. | |
| Okay. | |
| Rocky says, did you see the uncanny similarities between Abe Lincoln and JFK? | |
| There's a video. | |
| Check it out. | |
| Even the Asians make retarded women? | |
| They do. | |
| Love your streams, my brother. | |
| Are you able to one day make a debate kind like Alex Jones? | |
| I could do that. | |
| Hey, Mark, give it a good work. | |
| I'm going to say this. | |
| Every stream, there will always be a fucking clown in the chat trying to drive a wedge between you and Fresh by bringing up dumb shit like you two aren't different individual beliefs. | |
| They always come with a dumb shit. | |
| Fuck them and keep doing your thing. | |
| Well, that's interesting. | |
| So you're talking to Ozzy Oz, I guess. | |
| Update from One Chess Pracker. | |
| We got 516 in the OSS Discord. | |
| Guys. | |
| So within 24 hours of launching the fucking Discord, we already got 500 guys in there. | |
| Guys, if you want, join the most based fucking Discord by far, the OSS. | |
| Get in there completely free to join. | |
| Jump in there, ninjas. | |
| Also, I'm going to make like a OSS like Discord chat. | |
| So you guys can pull like memes and shit like there. | |
| And I'll like, you know, maybe react to some stuff. | |
| Maybe, or no, probably for the Telegram niggas. | |
| But yeah, Discord is free. | |
| Just join OSS so you can get in. | |
| Bro, even the Asian bitches getting fat. | |
| Yeah. | |
| God says, if you don't support, you have no right to criticize Myron. | |
| We need merch saying fuck BAN's bitch ass niggas. | |
| Bro, we might have to do that. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| We really might have to do that. | |
| We really might have to do that. | |
| Because that's annoying, bro. | |
| Look, I'm all for constructive criticism, whatever. | |
| But when niggas say unpause the video, like unpause the video when it's like my commentary channel, that's like a big fucking slap in the face. | |
| Super disrespectful. | |
| So it's like, like, you're not even here to add to the conversation. | |
| You're just here to troll and fuck up the show. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here, bro. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here. | |
| Because my thing is, like, I look at the people, like, when you guys say stuff, like, criticisms or whatever, or give suggestions, I literally look at that shit. | |
| I'd be looking at the chat. | |
| Earlier, somebody said, yo, do the 20 verse 1. | |
| How do you guys think I found that? | |
| Because I look at the chat. | |
| I look at the chat because I do value what you guys got to say. | |
| But when people do disrespectful shit like that, it's like, what the fuck? | |
| Like, what? | |
| Because it's like, guys, you got to understand as a creator, right? | |
| Like, your job, you have a plan of how you want to do things. | |
| So when people come in and try to tell you how to do your job, like randoms on the internet, that don't even fuck with you, by the way. | |
| Most of these people that say this shit, like, they don't even watch you like that. | |
| They don't really like you like that. | |
| They're just kind of coming in and talking shit. | |
| Like, that's incredibly disrespectful. | |
| Incredibly disrespectful. | |
| That's like going to someone's restaurant and being like, oh, this food sucks. | |
| I want you to give me this, even though this is a Chinese restaurant. | |
| I want you to give me some Jamaica, nigga, right? | |
| And say your food sucks. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Get out of my restaurant. | |
| Why are you here? | |
| There's a fucking Chinese, there's a fucking Jamaican food restaurant across the street. | |
| Like, that's the part that's annoying. | |
| You know? | |
| So that's my thing. | |
| So niggas like that, get the fuck up out of here. | |
| Because they're just spamming at that point. | |
| They're trying to be funny and like they're just spamming and hurting the choir of the show because what ends up happening is the trolls do that shit. | |
| Then I stop looking at the chat. | |
| Then I miss all the good shit with good suggestions. | |
| Why do you guys think we're going to do 20 verse 1 right now? | |
| Chat. | |
| So I'm not going to have the rest of you guys suffer because of a couple of retards. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Some of you guys might have some really fucking good ideas and we and I miss it because some stupid niggas say some dumb shit. | |
| So yeah. | |
| Anyway, because that's not freedom of speech. | |
| That's like that. | |
| Well, they're there to derail the show. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Like they're not there in good faith. | |
| If you're there to criticize and comment on good faith, fine. | |
| I'll take it all day. | |
| Some of you guys have said some shit in here, pissed me off, but I'm like, whatever. | |
| You know what? | |
| Fine. | |
| I'll do it. | |
| Yo, fix the audio. | |
| Yo, do this, blah, blah, blah. | |
| I'm like, all right, I'm going to make the show better. | |
| Fine. | |
| Right? | |
| Like, I'm cool with that. | |
| You guys have seen. | |
| I'll put the work in to make the show better. | |
| But like, when niggas are in there to like derail the show and just fuck up the quality of the show and spam and do that dumb shit, then, bro, you're hurting the, you're hurting a quarter of the show for everybody else. | |
| So you gotta, you gotta get, you gotta get hit with the fucking, you know what I'm saying? | |
| Falcon! | |
| Punch! | |
| They're not here to add to the stream. | |
| They're here to take away. | |
| So you got to get rid of the cancer because some of these motherfuckers are cancerous, bro. | |
| You got to get rid of them. | |
| And they'll destroy your community too. | |
| They'll destroy your community. | |
| Mario 765 says, WMR WDBG WCastle Club W OSS. | |
| Let's go. | |
| Thank you so much, bro, for the $100 support. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| We still rocking on CC too. | |
| I still got the stream up on Castle Club. | |
| I was going to turn it off earlier, but yo, you Castle Club niggas, you guys got to come on over to OSS, bro. | |
| I'm not going to be doing Castle Club much longer. | |
| Okay? | |
| You guys got to come on over. | |
| Just joined OSS, brother. | |
| That's from Amod Cloud. | |
| If there's an app to watch this, like locals with CC and how do I get the Discord and stuff? | |
| Aman, the link is right here. | |
| Wait, no, you're in here. | |
| If you sent the thing in through locals, you're already in watching it on there. | |
| So, QRME joined OSS. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Your wife lover says, hey, Marin, I joined yesterday and I'm loving it, but your J mods need to stop getting irritated if I throw up three O slash. | |
| I get banned. | |
| Go look to see yourself. | |
| These Rumble mod bros, your wife lover, the name. | |
| Guys, why'd you mod up? | |
| Why'd you ban them for putting O slash? | |
| You can't ban niggas for putting O slash. | |
| Come on, bro. | |
| All right, bro. | |
| I'll unban you, nigga. | |
| Don't worry. | |
| Let me find you here. | |
| You probably did some other shit, bro, because they never banned niggas on Rumble, bro. | |
| You probably did some other shit. | |
| But I'll give you a pass. | |
| I'll bring you back. | |
| Even the idiots from earlier, they just got banned. | |
| I didn't even really ban them. | |
| I just put them out for 24 hours. | |
| Niggas could come back tomorrow. | |
| They could go home and think about what they did. | |
| Or just sit there in silence. | |
| Hey, man, just put them YouTube niggas on 360p and make them pay. | |
| Ah, man. | |
| Fresh as dog just, Fresh Dog don't give a fuck about these YouTube niggas, bro. | |
| He's always roasted up. | |
| He said, put them niggas at 360p. | |
| Yeah, and I'm giving these niggas 4K, bro. | |
| And they got the nerve to talk all this shit. | |
| I'm on here for free. | |
| I'm giving these niggas 4K. | |
| And they got the fucking nerve to tell me, unpause the video. | |
| Fuck you, bro. | |
| Fuck you. | |
| Big Tings of Guan said, I signed up for OSS as well, man. | |
| Continue supporting you. | |
| Bro, thank you so much, man. | |
| Welcome. | |
| Welcome, bro. | |
| Happy to have you here on the stream, man. | |
| For those of you that don't know, Big Tings of Guan came on and talked about trucking, man. | |
| He came and talked about trucking, helped out a lot of guys, bro. | |
| So shout out to you, Big Tings. | |
| Put some respect on Myron, especially OSS. | |
| I appreciate you, bro. | |
| Thank you, Big Tings. | |
| And yo, the fare is never going to go up, guys. | |
| I'm going to keep it always at 10 bucks, man. | |
| I'm going to keep it at a manageable price for y'all. | |
| So you guys don't even feel it. | |
| The goal here is that you guys can support without feeling it, right? | |
| I don't want y'all to think, like, damn, am I going to pay my bill or fucking rock out with OSS? | |
| $10 a month, totally affordable. | |
| Like, you know what I mean? | |
| You know, for the price of you getting a fucking burrito, pretty much. | |
| And you get like a whole bunch of entertainment and learn and support the mission and everything else like that. | |
| So I fuck with you guys. | |
| I love you guys so much. | |
| Telegram coming soon from OneChat. | |
| Thank you, OneChat. | |
| So, guys, for those of you that are wondering about the Telegram, coming up soon. | |
| Coming up very, very soon. | |
| One chest, just let me know. | |
| One of my guys. | |
| The shizness says, put some respect on Myron, especially though it says, Absolutely, man. | |
| Yeah, I love when you guys shit on the fucking YouTube niggas, bro. | |
| That shit is funny. | |
| See, like this bitch ass nigga, Johnson, John Johnson, says, move on, bro. | |
| Shut the fuck up, nigga. | |
| Is this your stream, John Johnson? | |
| Huh? | |
| You fucking retard. | |
| You got the same name twice, you stupid fuck. | |
| You got the same name twice, but you don't think twice before you say dumb shit in the fucking chat like you're saying right now? | |
| Fucking bum. | |
| Holy shit, man. | |
| And then some other nigga, bro, you repeat yourself so much. | |
| That's it. | |
| Shut the fuck up, nigga. | |
| You can also shut the fuck up. | |
| Psychology. | |
| And so, even at the same time that women are saying that they're running away from their biology, so to speak, they are still exhibiting that they very much believe in these. | |
| No, I'm not going to ban those idiots, bro. | |
| You guys can just roast them. | |
| You guys can roast them in the chat. | |
| Nigga's name is John Johnson and some other nigga. | |
| What's the other idiot's name? | |
| Kobe 0808. | |
| So John Johnson and Kobe 08808. | |
| You guys could go ahead and cook them, man. | |
| I just, I ain't got to deal with those stupid niggas. | |
| You guys could just fry them. | |
| Welcome! | |
| Punch! | |
| Determined biological characteristics that I think are something that's just never going to go away. | |
| Right, but I would also bring up that the way that women are, young girls are given dolls, young boys are put in sports. | |
| These things that kids learn at a very early age are very impactful in what children like and pursue in the future. | |
| It's not simply that I don't think there's a biological gene that women like fashion and men don't. | |
| That's why we do see men in fashion. | |
| That's why there's actually at the top of all these fashion houses a lot of men are in successful positions in fashion. | |
| The way in which you teach a children to explore creativity and to play and what we put women in. | |
| We put women in pink rooms and little girls in pink rooms and boys in blue room. | |
| That has an effect. | |
| So, and I'll tell you why I disagree. | |
| And I know because I had my children back to back that there was yo, you're a wife lover. | |
| You're not banned, bro. | |
| I just looked you up. | |
| You're not banned at all. | |
| There's a blur here. | |
| So I never had to separate them and say, you play with this, you play with that. | |
| They were growing up with their toys. | |
| I mean, one year apart, my daughter and my son. | |
| They just are interested in different things. | |
| And this is one of the, I think, lies of feminism. | |
| And when you actually have children, there may be some exceptional child, but I am telling you, my boy's first word was car. | |
| He is obsessed with trucks. | |
| He's obsessed with cars. | |
| I did not do that. | |
| I do not like, I don't like having to answer his questions about cars. | |
| I don't like having to answer his questions about trucks because my biological proclivities are not designed. | |
| I'm just not feeling passionate about engineering and wanting to know how everything works. | |
| You don't recognize. | |
| That is inherently a male trait. | |
| This is why men are mostly engineers and most men build everything in society. | |
| Women don't. | |
| That's just an uncomfortable reality that no one wants to accept. | |
| And this is, I think, one of the worst harms of feminism because I was a feminist when I was in college, or I at least thought I agreed with the movement because you don't have the family yet. | |
| So when they make these arguments that you're making, you think that that's real. | |
| You think, oh, well, it's just because you're not giving the child the Barbie doll that they don't love Barbie dolls. | |
| And that's not a reality. | |
| We are just quite literally different. | |
| There are many. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| Time is up. | |
| All right, Candace will now choose a feminist in debate for 10 minutes on the claim of their choosing. | |
| I am going to choose Jenny to have a further conversation with because I thought that it was a respectful dialogue and I want people to be able to learn from the differences. | |
| And I think she is probably the best equipped person to get that done. | |
| My claim is that I believe feminism is wrongly interpreted as anti-men when it benefits both men and women. | |
| It's a great claim. | |
| I like that claim. | |
| All right. | |
| Feminism is wrongly interpreted as anti-men when it benefits both men and women. | |
| Well, here's the thing. | |
| She's actually correct in a degree because feminism was originally created for equality between the genders. | |
| But what quickly happened is it became for supremacy of one gender. | |
| That's the problem. | |
| Because the definition of what feminism actually is is no longer adhered to today. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I think that in today's environment, when you look at the messaging that's coming out from self-proclaimed feminists, it's very much an F-men. | |
| Men can't do anything. | |
| Women can do bad all by themselves, sort of colloquial messaging, which I think is harmful to men and to women. | |
| I have seen examples of people that I truly do think are more old school who don't do that. | |
| But I think in 2025, we've landed on the side of this, it's being, it is, I think, rising to a level of just being anti-men, which is not what I think it was supposed to be aspirationally. | |
| Okay. | |
| In response to that, I would just like to say I think that in all ideologies and beliefs, there is a spectrum, right? | |
| And on either side, there's going to be a radical point of view. | |
| I do understand how it may come across as negative when women say things like, I hate all men or F men, this, F men, that. | |
| But I'm also, as a woman, not going to fault other women for having that perspective and fear because unfortunately, our greatest predator is men. | |
| Our greatest harm does come from men. | |
| And therefore, when women have experienced violence from men, when women have experienced oppression from men, I'm not going to fault them for feeling that way and expressing such. | |
| I think the onus does rely more on men for acknowledging that these issues do exist. | |
| It is harming women. | |
| And unfortunately, a lot of men don't listen to women and they actually would rather listen to well, she's right about that. | |
| And here's the thing: there's a very like, there's a very honest reason why men don't listen to women. | |
| The reason why men don't listen to women is because women simply don't understand the male experience and they don't understand male struggle at all, right? | |
| Like, at least as a man, right? | |
| You can dispense advice to a woman and it's somewhat reciprocal. | |
| But like as a, as a woman, when you're dispensing advice to a man, like, that's like telling somebody that's like a professional gamer. | |
| Oh, look, okay, I'll give you guys an example of what I mean here. | |
| Let's go into a situation, right? | |
| So a woman dispensing a man advice is like is like a rookie, right? | |
| Like a rookie NBA player trying to tell like MJ how to shoot a fadeaway. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like they simply don't have the prerequisite experience and they don't understand that we're playing on different levels, right? | |
| I'm at the all-star game. | |
| You're at the rookie fucking sophomore game. | |
| We're not playing at the same level whatsoever. | |
| I'm playing the game on hard mode. | |
| I'm playing literally on veteran difficulty. | |
| You're playing on recruit. | |
| So the advice that you give is not going to help me. | |
| If anything, it's going to fuck me up because you have access and the ability to traverse certain situations in a way that I'll never be able to. | |
| You're able to get into rooms that I'll never be able to get into, right? | |
| Like when women sit there and say, oh, I'm a good networker, bitch, that's not a flex. | |
| Like women, guys, here's a big red pill for you guys. | |
| Let me give you guys a huge red pill. | |
| Average women are able to get into rooms with A-list celebs like that. | |
| You understand? | |
| If you want to meet future as a man, you need to be a fucking somebody where he's like meeting you on an equal footing. | |
| Like he'll talk to you and shit. | |
| You're not on some fan shit. | |
| You need to be an artist. | |
| You need to be a musician. | |
| You got to be an athlete. | |
| You got to be a somebody for him to come up to you and dab you up and say, hey, what's up? | |
| I fuck with you. | |
| You have to be a guy, like you have to be that nigga. | |
| As a bitch, you just exist. | |
| And you could be at a section and talk to him with no accomplishments. | |
| So in other words, a bitch with no future can meet future and then potentially get a future with future. | |
| Right? | |
| Meanwhile, if you don't got a future, you ain't going to see future, which will mean you got no future. | |
| That's the difference. | |
| Damn, son. | |
| Where'd you find this? | |
| So we're not the same at all. | |
| So the reason why men don't listen to women is because it doesn't make sense for us to listen to them. | |
| It just doesn't. | |
| It doesn't benefit us. | |
| Other men. | |
| While that may seem like negative message. | |
| Now, are there some women out there that could give you advice and help you? | |
| Of course, there's a few. | |
| There's going to be women out there that could do it, right? | |
| But very fucking hard to find. | |
| Very hard to find. | |
| She's going to have to be in a niche and be really good at what she does to be able to actually advise you as a man. | |
| Messaging, if we can get past the idea of, oh, this feels like it's attacking my character. | |
| Like, I feel like feminism is attacking me as a man, then I think that we can have a much more productive discussion and move forward in making sure that this society is better for everybody. | |
| And I do believe that feminism benefits men as well. | |
| I think that's also misunderstood and misinterpreted in that when we hear that, instantly we turn off. | |
| We don't want to listen. | |
| Right. | |
| But when we look at historically what feminism does. | |
| Joey Banks said, you should call the 21 Verse Show 20v1 show that Thought Roulette. | |
| It has a nice ring to it. | |
| As always, love your streams. | |
| I never miss one and I plan on joining the OSS soon, brother. | |
| If you need a graphic designer to help you out with the channel, hit me up. | |
| Nigga, you just donated five bucks. | |
| You could have just spent four and got into the OSS. | |
| Nigga! | |
| Why do you guys think I made a four bucks for you guys to join? | |
| Bro, literally. | |
| Joey Bang, what are you doing? | |
| Nigga spent five bucks. | |
| could have spent four and got in. | |
| Alright, but thank you for the suggestion, mate. | |
| I'll find... | |
| I'll find something to call it because maybe calling it 20 verse 1 might be too crazy, bro. | |
| That might be too crazy. | |
| It's actually trying to bring women at an equal level to men, give them the same opportunities and options as men, and also not receive the same judgment that men do for the same actions. | |
| And so I believe that when men are exposed to more female role models, when men are exposed to more feminine or feminist-leaning women, they actually have higher quality of life. | |
| They have deeper conversations that they can have with their loved ones. | |
| All the men that I know in my life are feminists, and it is. | |
| Look, bro, I'll be honest with you guys. | |
| The most masculine men don't like to talk to women, bro. | |
| Let's just, let's just call a spade a spade, bro. | |
| Let's be fucking really honest here. | |
| The guys that I know that got their shit together, they're in good shape, did real shit, whatever, make money, successful. | |
| Masculine guys, they don't enjoy talking to women or being around women like that, bro. | |
| Bro, women are a liability, man. | |
| They're a liability. | |
| Being around them all the time is not in your best interest. | |
| It really isn't at all. | |
| Like, and honestly, any guy that sits there and says, like, I enjoy the company of women, you should be careful. | |
| You should be careful. | |
| If you meet a guy, bro, if you meet a dude and he says, oh, yeah, I enjoy the company of women, bro, that is no fucking bueno. | |
| You should watch yourself run that, nigga, bro. | |
| That's the type of guy that will sit there and be like lurking, you know, talking about, you know, how he can, you know, talk. | |
| That's the type of nigga that will sit there and talk with your girl about you. | |
| Right? | |
| He'll sit there and like be like the cold shoulder, or sorry, the warm shoulder to cry on and shit. | |
| Bro, always be wary of guys. | |
| You got to be wary of two things. | |
| You got to be wary of niggas that can't attract women and simps. | |
| And you also have to be very wary of guys that enjoy female company. | |
| Very weird dudes that enjoy female company. | |
| Okay. | |
| Like outside of sex, I mean, because let's be honest, bro. | |
| Outside of sex, it's like, why are you even talking to this bitch, bro? | |
| Let's be honest here. | |
| Like, come on, man. | |
| It's because they are feminists that we all have a beautiful community and beautiful friendships. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I would actually even expand it to say that not only is feminism hostile to men, but it's also very hostile to women. | |
| And I think you saw a lot of an example of that today, where there seems to be a reaction when a woman says children are beautiful. | |
| It's like, oh my God, how dare you say that? | |
| Like having a child. | |
| And it's like, why is there this instant reaction to people that are traditional? | |
| And you see that when we have a society, which is really kind of being dominated by what I would call like this hyper sexual character, like of the Kim Kardashian prototype of feminism, weighed against the other extreme, which would be like the Lena Dunham types who are coming out. | |
| Lena Dunham's much more the F-Men forever. | |
| Kim Kardashian is kind of the one I was saying, like, come get everything for free, you know, that sort of a model. | |
| And I think both of them reject tradition in a way that there's a little bit of hatred there for women who don't want to climb the ladder and work 45 hours a week for a small paycheck and who actually aspire to marriage. | |
| They think that there's something intrinsically backwards about that. | |
| They think that there's something wrong with women who are wholesome and happy and they instantly try to problematize that. | |
| And I'd say one of the greatest cultural examples of that today was like the feminist attack on Ballerina Farm, which just kind of came out of nowhere. | |
| It was so weird. | |
| Will you let hardcore no limit fans join the OSS? | |
| No limit like Master P, bro, Curtis Leon. | |
| I guess, nigga, just don't. | |
| I mean, what the fuck? | |
| That's a random ass question. | |
| I have an example of every feminist on the cover of everything. | |
| And it's like, but no, this woman can't have 10 million followers. | |
| She's not allowed to have 10 million followers. | |
| We have to take her down. | |
| And that to me, that to me is the greatest example of what modern feminism has become because they pretend it's about choice. | |
| But in reality, they want every woman to enter the workforce and to pretend that they're happy in the workforce from a nine to five job trying to compete with men. | |
| And I think if people are being honest, the overwhelming majority of women are doing that because of financial power, not because they're really happy. | |
| And that's why they're binge drinking on the weekends. | |
| Okay, I disagree with that. | |
| I think that feminism just gives women options. | |
| And if you want to be a stay-at-home like wife and you want to be a trad wife, that's fine. | |
| Feminism is not, in my opinion, I think a lot of other people agree with me. | |
| Feminism is not the belief that you can't do those things. | |
| And we're trying to convince women that they have to work. | |
| I believe that feminism is, if you want to work, go do it. | |
| So the thing is, is that she has the original definition, the correct definition, but the problem is that it's not practiced that way anymore. | |
| That's the issue. | |
| Do that. | |
| Go get that bag. | |
| Shout out to Auntie Farella with the gifted sub appreciate you. | |
| Moon says, how do you think Sir Major is surviving a joke? | |
| Maybe a Zoom or phone call on stream one day. | |
| Oh, you're funny, bro. | |
| This nigga moon is funny. | |
| Yo, he's probably, bro, that nigga get a federal prison, bro, for fraud, man. | |
| Stupid ass FBAs, man. | |
| No, but if you don't and you want to be a stay-at-home wife, then there shouldn't be consequences for doing that. | |
| And I think the whole ballerina farm discussion is kind of highlighting some of the consequences. | |
| We see a woman who wanted to be a ballerina, but gave up that passion and dream to be a mother. | |
| And I don't think that it's wrong to want both. | |
| I think that you can, I think there's value in being a mother. | |
| I think there's value in having a family, right? | |
| I work with kids all the time as a swim teacher. | |
| I love kids. | |
| But at the same time, I don't want to have to choose between kids and my career passion issues. | |
| And that's another thing is they just keep rejecting her answering this question a thousand times. | |
| Of course, when you're young and before you have kids, the things that I wanted to do aspirationally has radically transformed from now that I'm married. | |
| It's suddenly everything came into focus. | |
| And really, I understand that family is what it's all about. | |
| It's like you have your first kid and you just, you change entirely. | |
| Your focus changes. | |
| And I do find exactly what you're saying is that even when she herself says, this is what I wanted, I was not forced to give up. | |
| You know, that's what I wanted when it was just me in my life. | |
| And I went to Juilliard and I did what I wanted to do. | |
| And I danced as a ballerina. | |
| And then my husband moved to support me as a ballerina. | |
| And then I got pregnant. | |
| And when you have a child, your entire world changes instantly in a moment. | |
| And it's hard to describe that to someone who doesn't have a child yet because when I was there, I didn't understand it either. | |
| So I actually would have agreed more with you until that moment happens. | |
| You don't get it. | |
| And so what I'm saying is that to see people constantly try to problematize her life when she's like, I have eight kids now. | |
| It's like, not only do I love kids, I have eight of them. | |
| And I'm. | |
| I didn't increase the volume like that, guys. | |
| That is, that is fucking these guys over at Jubilee, I guess. | |
| Curtis Leon says, yeah, hell yeah. | |
| Silk the shocker, Mia X, Kane, and Abel, C-Murder. | |
| I don't think you saw my super chat about Carmelo. | |
| No, I didn't. | |
| Join OSS, nigga, and I wouldn't miss it. | |
| King Lajeune, subscribe. | |
| Welcome to the OSS, brother. | |
| Big things, Laguan. | |
| I truly appreciate what you do, bro. | |
| The dedication is motivating. | |
| And by the way, for you to be somebody and still be who you are is exactly why I respect the hell out of you. | |
| I appreciate that, big things. | |
| I really, really appreciate that, man. | |
| And thank you so much for coming on the show and helping out with the truck. | |
| We need to do a part two. | |
| Whatever you say, man, my conscience is clear. | |
| Anyways, without going too far into detail, what is a cookie monster? | |
| Ozzy Oz, my friend, you need to join OSS if you don't know what the cookie monster is, bro. | |
| Your wife lover, W. Myron, thank you for the unbanned. | |
| And literally some mods banned me for no reason, but keep killing the game with your content, fam, O slash, O slash, all day. | |
| I got you, my friend. | |
| Like I said, bro, I don't have a problem with you guys talking shit in your chat, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Just don't spam. | |
| They're hard to quiet of the show and we're good, right? | |
| But when these niggas say the dumb shit like unpause, that hurts the quiet of the show, bro. | |
| Absolutely hurts to acquire the show because now I can't get my commentary because niggas are being stupid. | |
| Does that make sense? | |
| Oh, bro, don't, bro. | |
| And it's like, nigga, then why are you watching my video? | |
| Then go watch the original. | |
| The original is there. | |
| Like, you don't need me then. | |
| Why are you here? | |
| Like, you're on my channel watching my shit, which means you're here for my commentary. | |
| You're trying to get me to not do what I'm supposed to do. | |
| Like, I don't want you here. | |
| Get the fuck out of here because I can't even do my job now. | |
| That's not free speech. | |
| Like, you're fucking up the show. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| It's free speech until you start fucking up the show for everybody else. | |
| Then at that point, you got to get out of here. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| Okay. | |
| got you bro um cooking and i'm going to school and i'm bringing them with me toireland And the attacks on the trad wife culture, it just shows you that there is fundamentally a hatred for tradition. | |
| And I think that hatred is being bred into women. | |
| And guys, it sucks because I don't want to fucking time people out or ban them. | |
| But it's like, I'm looking at it like, okay, I either A, let the trolls control the chat and ruin the quality of the show, or B, get rid of those niggas so it's healthy discourse in the chat and healthy comments and healthy like criticisms or whatever. | |
| Like, I'm not going to ban people for like saying like, oh, yo, fix this or, yo, here's a suggestion, whatever. | |
| But when people are saying like, unpause the shit when this is a commentary channel, that's literally what I do where I fucking react to content, get my commentary, explain things, et cetera. | |
| That literally inhibits what I'm here to do. | |
| And then it, and then, and then people, the thing with trolls is like, they love to like, they're like cancer. | |
| They like to spread. | |
| So you got to fucking like nip it in the butt and get rid of those niggas immediately because they will fuck up your community, fuck up your chat. | |
| So and fuck up your shit. | |
| Cause then you can't even effectively do what you want to do because niggas are in there spamming bullshit. | |
| So it's a balance where I can either A, let trolls take over the chat and then I don't look at the chat and then everybody suffers or B, trim out the fat, get rid of the trolls, get rid of the cancer so that I can, so I'm looking at the chat and I can like quickly see like what the fuck is going on. | |
| So it's it's a very delicate balance, man, of maintaining some semblance of freedom of speech, of course, right? | |
| Which I believe in, but at the same time, running it in a way where people aren't coming in and trolling just to get a to get a reaction or hurting the quad of the show. | |
| Because at the end of the day, if these niggas come in and troll and hurt the quad of the show, everybody loses. | |
| And then on top of that, not only does everybody lose, like, I'm not going to look at the chat and like see your guys' feedback from like legitimate people that are actually trying to like make the show better. | |
| There's some other people that just want to be cancer and like fuck everything up. | |
| So that's kind of where you have to find a fine balance between moderating it so that you can have a good community and be able to do the show, but at the same time, like level, like allowing some levels of speech. | |
| Like niggas in the chat talk shit about me all the time. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I don't have a problem with that. | |
| It's when they say, oh, unpause, unpause shit like that. | |
| And it's like, bro, this is my shit. | |
| This is what I'm supposed to do. | |
| Right. | |
| And then they spam it. | |
| It's like, all right, now you guys are fucking being retarded. | |
| So yeah, anyway. | |
| Like the nigga before, L Johnson, John Johnson, right? | |
| Saying, bro, some, some other, he said some shit about you repeating yourself. | |
| I didn't even ban him. | |
| I said, bro, fuck you, nigga. | |
| Like, I'm going to let the chat shit on you. | |
| Look, some idiot right now just commented, unpause, stop yapping, right? | |
| I could ban this bitch ass nigga right now, but you know what I'm going to do? | |
| I'm going to let you guys roast him because this guy, automated intelligence, I'm putting your name out there in the YouTube chat. | |
| Guarantee you're not a member of OSS. | |
| Guarantee you're fucking retard. | |
| Guarantee you probably have Brillo pad for hair. | |
| Guarantee you probably live on Section 8. | |
| Guarantee you're a fucking EBT executive, right? | |
| Talking all that shit, you bumass nigga. | |
| I'm gonna let the chat roast you because guys like you hurt the quad of the chat for everybody else. | |
| So I'm just gonna let them cook you, bro. | |
| Women. | |
| And ultimately, when you find those women at 50 who have chased their careers, it has been my experience. | |
| The poorest niggas got the most to say, bro. | |
| Every single time, poorest niggas got the most to say. | |
| Experience and they don't have family that they suffer from tremendous unhappiness if they've missed that window of opportunity to be part of family. | |
| I mean, I would like to disagree with that point that feminism is hating on the trad wife life. | |
| I think there is a misrepresentation of that life that's being fed to people. | |
| For example, people like Nara Smith and Ballerina Farm are, they are social media content creators. | |
| That is their job, right? | |
| So it's not that they're just a stay-at-home mom. | |
| Content creation itself, as I'm sure you're aware, is also a job, right? | |
| So they are not actually fully trad wives. | |
| They also are working. | |
| And on top of that, they are marketing this lifestyle that is not attainable by everybody. | |
| It's not feasible. | |
| And I think you agree with this too, to be spending eight hours cooking like, I don't know, chocolate chip cookies from scratch where you've harvested the cocoa yourself. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| And it's not feasible in our current economic system. | |
| Right. | |
| And maybe that's what people want. | |
| And that's great. | |
| And I don't think feminism is the one that's telling you you shouldn't want this. | |
| I disagree with that strongly. | |
| I think feminism is telling you that if you want to pursue that, that's great. | |
| That's for you. | |
| I've never met a feminist that didn't find a problem with the trad wives. | |
| And that's my point is that it's just illusion. | |
| Well, you're meeting one now. | |
| I think as soon as I said something traditional, everyone rejected it. | |
| I said, you get more, you will get more purpose. | |
| And joy from raising a child, you get joy from raising a child. | |
| And everyone acted like when I said you get joy from raising a child, like I had stabbed them in the chest. | |
| Well, guys, it's that we just like understand that children are like, it's a good thing. | |
| No, and I fired it. | |
| I don't think any of us here have kids. | |
| I think the point is it's not about, oh, I've mentioned something traditional and this is the reaction that I'm getting from it. | |
| It's that it's almost like you're making an assumption that this applies to everybody. | |
| I do, I am making a generalization and I am seeing that. | |
| The majority of women did not invest time to start a family. | |
| Women would be miserable. | |
| And I think that recognizing that when women start to like the biological clock is real and women start to recognize that they spent so much time trying to climb a ladder and they maybe don't find a partner. | |
| And it's harder to find a partner now because, as I said, we have devalued ourselves by giving up sex so freely. | |
| I do see that there is an increase in those types of women who are relying on drugs to make them happy, whether they're right. | |
| But not everybody wants marriage and not everybody wants a relationship. | |
| I think overwhelmingly. | |
| Yeah, they, bro, that is the biggest cap ever. | |
| Guys, let me tell y'all, son, women will sit there and cope and say, oh, women don't want a relationship or, you know, I'm single by choice. | |
| That is a lie. | |
| When women sit there and say, I'm single by choice, that's like the equivalent to you saying, oh, yeah, I masturbate by choice. | |
| I masturbate. | |
| I could go get a bunch of bad bitches, but I masturbate by choice. | |
| Let's be honest. | |
| It's not that you niggas are masturbating by choice. | |
| You guys are masturbating by you must because you can't get a bitch. | |
| Okay, so women sit there and try to tell you, oh, yeah, I'm single by choice. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| And I'm fapping for choice. | |
| Get the fuck up out of here, man. | |
| One of the biggest copes women give, bro. | |
| Women, women do. | |
| Biggest lies ever. | |
| Do want the safety of a relationship and a happy home. | |
| And I think that feminism lies to you and tells you that you don't until it's too late. | |
| And that's that is what I do a lot of work trying to get women to understand. | |
| Yeah, no, and I understand that you're trying. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| That's time. | |
| I do apologize. | |
| You have people who are coming because they want to create a social media moment. | |
| And these are always, I've done so many events, the most frustrating. | |
| Ozzy, why do you think Dan Bozerian lives with so many women then? | |
| Just imagine the amount of brainless word sound yapping he listens to all day. | |
| They literally talk all the all, they literally all talk at the same time like turkeys. | |
| Dan doesn't live with women anymore, bro. | |
| He gave that shit up. | |
| He don't fuck with bitches like that no more. | |
| He's he's on a bigger and better things, bro. | |
| And honestly, even back then when he used to have them all around, he would do it for shoots, bro. | |
| But like, bro, he's like me, man. | |
| Like, he don't like being around these bitches, man. | |
| They're stupid, man. | |
| Frustrating things because nobody's learning. | |
| And I also think it's something that women that are young need to come to terms with, or they're going to end up on the other side and be miserable and be popping pills like a lot of women who bought into the illusion of feminism did. | |
| So it was frustrating, but also people can see how many times I just couldn't. | |
| I wasn't allowed to speak. | |
| It is important to interrupt conservatives, specifically conservatives like Candace, because once you do that, their policies will show themselves. | |
| Today, it felt like one conservative, a 19 cisgender mainstream feminist and the weird queer person just kind of hanging out. | |
| We absolutely are part of the feminist movement, and I hope the mainstream gets that one day. | |
| I think that Candace herself is a great example that you can do both. | |
| And when you have a society and a culture, just because you can doesn't mean it's probable. | |
| And this is the problem that these fucking women don't get, bro. | |
| Like, now everybody's, oh, you can make it to the NBA, but are niggas going to make it to the NBA? | |
| No. | |
| All these bitches think they're going to make it to the NBA. | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| God damn. | |
| Sure, that encourages women to do what they want, how they want in a way that is because being able to do it all is the equivalent to like making it to the NBA for a dude, bro. | |
| Safe and healthy for these women. | |
| Healthy, you will see that women can do it all, as she said, and be happy. | |
| I don't think that you have to choose between having and fucking incredible. | |
| All right, niggas. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| What do you guys? | |
| Let's see what we got here. | |
| We got, oh, we did the Kennedy video. | |
| That was a banger video, by the way. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Let's see here, PBD, what he's got to say about Candace. | |
| Guys, let's see here. | |
| We are at 1781. | |
| Guys, we're 20 away from hitting 1800. | |
| Join the OSS, my ninjas, and we will have 18. | |
| We'll hit 1,800 tonight, and I will jump on OME TV. | |
| I'll give you guys 15 minutes. | |
| So we'll react to this video right here. | |
| I was going to get off after the candidate, but I'll do you guys a solid. | |
| Let's see what he's saying here about this thing. | |
| When you guys sent me this clip, so let's see. | |
| In regards to it, I think Curtis Leon said, How much is OSS? | |
| Nigga, have you been here? | |
| Bro, I swear some of y'all niggas retorted. | |
| Bro, how many times have I told you? | |
| It's four bucks, man. | |
| It's four bucks, bro. | |
| I'm running a special. | |
| I'm running a special. | |
| See, now everybody's going to be mad at you because now I got to run the ad again. | |
| See, now I got to run the ad again. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| I won't run that right now. | |
| It was yesterday, if I'm not mistaken. | |
| An episode yesterday about a phone call she got out of nowhere from the president about somebody. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I want to play this clip for you. | |
| Go ahead, Rob, and play this clip. | |
| Here's Candace talking about a phone call she got from the White House. | |
| Go ahead, Rob. | |
| And I get another message that's like, hey, keep your phone up. | |
| Yeah, a couple of you guys asked for this, so I got you, ninjas. | |
| And anyways, this phone call is coming from Florida. | |
| Pick up the phone, and lo and behold. | |
| You know, so here's what happened. | |
| I'm negotiating this thing. | |
| I'm negotiating Ukraine and Russia. | |
| You wouldn't believe how many, how many parts are part. | |
| It is President Donald J. Trump. | |
| He is calling me. | |
| And in true President Trump fashion, he jumps right into the narrative. | |
| We're not, hey, how you doing? | |
| He just like jumps right into the narrative. | |
| Nigga didn't even say hello. | |
| Exactly how this went down. | |
| I am literally, it is hard to catch my breath to comprehend that four days ago. | |
| I'm ending a series about Brigitte Macrone. | |
| And now I'm speaking to the President of the United States. | |
| And the topic of conversation, no matter which way you want to slice it, it's about Macron's wife's penis. | |
| I mean, there's no other way to say it, right? | |
| Anyways, I have Macron. | |
| I like Macrone. | |
| We're speaking at the White House and I'm walking him to his car. | |
| And, you know, he says to me, Mr. President, can I speak to you for a second? | |
| I say, of course, you can speak to me about anything. | |
| It's going on. | |
| And Macron wants to have a little sidebar. | |
| And then Macrone says to him, Mr. President, do you know Candace Owens? | |
| And I say, yes, yes, of course I know Candace Owens. | |
| What's going on? | |
| I think it's Hughes' narrative. | |
| And he tells me that Emmanuel Macrone is requesting to his face that I stop speaking about his wife. | |
| And one of the things Trump said is, like, you know, he tells me, you know, she's old and this is really, really impacting her. | |
| And then he said, you know, that's why she slapped that nigga in the face, probably. | |
| No, I saw her, you know, Candace, I saw her up close, and she looks like a woman to me. | |
| She looks like a woman to me. | |
| I had dinner with her at the top of the Eiffel Tower. | |
| And I explained to him that she has had this amazing doctor who specializes in transgenderism surgeries or feminization procedures. | |
| I'm not sure if I can do it. | |
| How much longer does this happen? | |
| This is crazy. | |
| This is wacky. | |
| And I said to Trump, and I will be honest that at that moment, I realized that one day this is going to be a mission. | |
| So, Vinny, your thoughts on this. | |
| So, this is Candace saying that Trump called her to say Macron is asking to pump the brakes because we're trying to do deals. | |
| And hey, you know, Candace, can you give Candace a call? | |
| Your thoughts on this comment. | |
| Listen, with all due respect, and you know, I absolutely love Candace, but you don't go talking about a private call from the president of the United States. | |
| I don't care if it's Trump. | |
| I don't care if it's Biden. | |
| I don't care if it's freaking Ronald Reagan's ghost. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's just not loose lips. | |
| It's just, it's just weak character. | |
| Like, if you're, if you're leaking conversations or click or whatever, like, it's not, you can't trust someone who's willing to expose stuff like that. | |
| Like, she, and, and I don't know. | |
| That's, it's, it's not a good look because, like, for instance, do you think they're ever gonna, anybody's gonna ever have a conversation just with whatever it is, whatever it is with Candace with that information coming out? | |
| Yeah, they're, they're not gonna trust her. | |
| Um, I wonder if she asked if she could even probably not. | |
| Yeah, I mean, people are gonna be reluctant to call her. | |
| That's a fact. | |
| That's true. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you honestly think, would you trust? | |
| Would you trust? | |
| First of all, let me ask this question. | |
| Do you do you believe that phone call happened? | |
| I think she said the robot what was exactly? | |
| Oh, no, I believe that phone call happened. | |
| I 100% believe that phone call happened. | |
| 100% believe that phone call happened. | |
| She said sometime in February, so you're talking about 30 days after inauguration, January 20th. | |
| I think she says the phone call happened third week of February. | |
| The question is: do you believe the call happened? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Two. | |
| So you believe the phone call happened that President Trump called. | |
| My opinion, yes. | |
| Okay, you believe that. | |
| It's too, it's too Candace doesn't strike me as the type of person to lie about some shit like that. | |
| And then also, like, she's met him before. | |
| She's probably the biggest female conservative creator, has a massive amount of influence. | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| 100% he will call her. | |
| Yeah, I think so. | |
| Now, I'm shocked that he called her direct, though. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| I am shocked that he called her direct. | |
| I thought he would have one of his aides call her or some shit like that. | |
| But yeah. | |
| It's too easy to deny, right? | |
| It's like, we never talked to her. | |
| Adam, you believe that, that the phone call happened. | |
| I do. | |
| Do you want me to get my feedback? | |
| But the second thing is, is there anything wrong with her publicly sharing a phone call that I guess the second question is, do you think she asked permission from the Trump to publicly talk about the phone call? | |
| No. | |
| Hell no. | |
| I was going to ask if she asked, that's what I was going to say next, but I'm like, probably not. | |
| He wouldn't have allowed that. | |
| It's appropriate for her to publicly talk about it. | |
| Now that becomes a question. | |
| Adam, your thoughts. | |
| Well, it depends on what the phone call basically encompasses. | |
| If he said, keep this between us or not. | |
| But Candace has an opportunity to basically make friends with Trump or make enemies with Trump. | |
| If Elon Musk is an enemy of Trump at this point, you better believe Candace might be in her sights. | |
| Now, what you don't see in that clip. | |
| Sparks84 said, OSS anymore, is there a way to donate OSS memberships? | |
| Yeah, there is. | |
| Yo, OneChats, can you post a picture real quick for Castle Club Clan? | |
| Niggas, bro. | |
| What kind of name is that, bro? | |
| Niggas' name is Castle Club Clan with the K's. | |
| Yo, One Chess, can you show him how to donate subs on there for some brokies? | |
| Welcome to the team, by the way. | |
| Sparks84. | |
| That's a funny ass name. | |
| Nigga's name is Castle Club Can with a KKK, bro. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Is the reason that Emmanuel Crone asked that of Trump was because basically it was, you know, we've heard the quit pro quo thing before. | |
| He said, listen, if you want my help in ending the Russia-Ukraine war, I need a favor from you. | |
| Have Candace, who has made it her life's work of dismantling my wife, husband, whatever body parts. | |
| If you really want me to go all in and help save literally millions of lives, do me a favor and make a call to her and see if she can just chill out. | |
| Because no matter who you are, no matter what you know, they sense her a seasoned assist letter. | |
| You do, we all have emotions, we all have feelings. | |
| Everything's interpersonal relationships. | |
| We just talked about how Trump, she can't go to France. | |
| I'll tell you that. | |
| And Musk fell out because of personal relationship. | |
| Do you believe that Macron maybe said something to Trump about, hey, this woman has made her life's work about my wife being a man or man? | |
| I totally believe that happened. | |
| So, but I also, if Trump never told her, don't say anything, I'm actually understanding why Candace will say this. | |
| I'll say one last thing: making a documentary about Emmanuel Macron's wife or ending the Ukraine-Russia war to me, it's not even a conversation. | |
| You end the war. | |
| But Candace, in another clip, said this: She said, I didn't know what to do. | |
| So, do you know who she said she called? | |
| She said she called Tucker, who she doesn't really speak with, but he got it. | |
| She got his advice, free speech advice. | |
| She said at the time I was pregnant with my fourth child, I believe. | |
| I was emotional and I tend to be hot-headed. | |
| Wink, wink. | |
| I do believe that she's been infected by the IDS Israel derangement syndrome. | |
| Bruh, come on, Adam. | |
| Come on, Adam. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| The IDF is killing kids every day, bro. | |
| Like, they're killing the IDF is literally killing kids every fucking day, Adam. | |
| Come on, bro. | |
| But I don't totally understand. | |
| Oh, guys, chat. | |
| You know what? | |
| OSS niggas. | |
| I'm going to ask you guys. | |
| Matter of fact, because I fucking love you guys. | |
| OSS guys. | |
| They want me to go on her take. | |
| You guys want me to go or not? | |
| What do you think? | |
| Yay or nay? | |
| I'll do a poll for you guys on there. | |
| OSS niggas assemble. | |
| Yo, I need to get the fucking sound effect. | |
| I'm going to get to get sound effect right now. | |
| Fucking Thundercats Assemble or some shit or OSS niggas assemble. | |
| I'm going to do a poll for you guys. | |
| OSS niggas. | |
| Okay. | |
| Go on, which is a value tame show. | |
| I don't know what the topic would be. | |
| I know it's this YouTube channel right here. | |
| Oh, actually, we still got to react to one of it. | |
| Adam battling Anna Kasparian. | |
| I know it's PBD shit right here. | |
| I want to put this one up. | |
| It's a brand new channel, 52.8K. | |
| They made it like, when did they make this thing? | |
| It's kind of like the view, but like a more, I guess, not liberal version, I guess. | |
| They made it a month ago. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They made it a month ago. | |
| So yeah, it's a part of the Value Tammany family, I think. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you got PBD. | |
| You got, oh, Amy got her own channel. | |
| Okay. | |
| Value Tamman short clips and then the original Valueutainment channel. | |
| So yeah, I mean, I don't know. | |
| I'll see what you'll put the poll up for you guys on. | |
| I'll put the poll for you guys on what's it called on OSS. | |
| Stand why she's putting that out there for clips for views. | |
| All right. | |
| This bitch ass nigga Duke said he said OSS Simps. | |
| Chat, you guys know what to do. | |
| You know what to do. | |
| I'm not going to ban this nigga. | |
| Just roast him. | |
| You guys know what to do. | |
| Bitch ass nigga said OSS Simps. | |
| I get that. | |
| You're about to get a cook, boy. | |
| Hopefully, this will lead to ending the Russia-Ukraine war, and we can refocus the conversation not on Emmanuel Macron's body parts. | |
| But I don't think she said that she's changing her position. | |
| The fact that she's talking about this, that's bringing it back up. | |
| So I don't think this is going to put an end to any of it. | |
| It is back surface that people are talking. | |
| We haven't talked about this. | |
| And by the way, do you want to know what's crazy? | |
| I actually think she's right about Macron. | |
| Me too. | |
| I actually think that, and I'm not even taking a position that, I think that was one of the better jobs of investigation work that's happened the last couple years. | |
| And I even remember we've had a UFC fight. | |
| The first time she was reading it, and she's telling us about it backstage. | |
| But the challenge becomes that phone call. | |
| And Adam, to add to what you just said right there, I don't think this gets her closer to Ilan, because she's also been very critical of Ilan and Trump. | |
| So I don't think it's going to be all of a sudden getting there. | |
| Yeah, Ilan is a bitch. | |
| Bitch-ass nigga, man. | |
| All right, put the poll up for you guys on, I put the poll up for you guys on, on the OSS. | |
| I'll put it in the chat for you guys right now. | |
| Poll is up, ninjas. | |
| In the chat. | |
| This position here. | |
| So number one, I have a couple thoughts. | |
| Man, if the President of the United States calls you, and he's speaking about that, I don't think you talk about it on the air unless you had some sort of a... | |
| And only supporters can vote on it. | |
| Only supporters. | |
| Framework. | |
| Active supporters. | |
| Right? | |
| And say, Mr. President, I appreciate the call and everything. | |
| You know I'm very public, and I'm very out there talking about many things. | |
| If I was to mention this, yeah, I would prefer you didn't. | |
| You can do what you want, Candace, but I would prefer you didn't. | |
| I think you ask about that. | |
| We've had all kinds of celebrities. | |
| I agree. | |
| I think asking is obviously the best policy. | |
| And all kinds of, shoot, heavy-hitting major political people that have said things behind the scenes. | |
| Would we have liked, or would you have liked to go on out and say things? | |
| Hey, folks, in the insurance industry, the following, the following, following might help us out. | |
| Yeah, but we respect what's called confidence. | |
| And I just don't think with a sitting precedent, unless you've got a conversation there and an understanding, that you say anything. | |
| Now then, I think she's right about Macron's husband, wife. | |
| And she's not the only one, but her investigative reporting was quite good and quite deep and quite backed up. | |
| But I have a final little point here, and it's about Macron. | |
| If Macron said to the President of the United States, I am not going to weigh in and help out with a major humanitarian crisis in a foreign country until gossip stops about my wife, that you are one of the shallowest people to walk the halls of leadership at the country level. | |
| that just absolutely greets me on that point. | |
| That's a good point. | |
| Vinny, your thoughts? | |
| Yeah, well, just, I want to get in there because, Adam, you said something like, does he have to say, or like, should there have been like a, hey, can I, no, no, that there's an unwritten rule. | |
| You don't have to say, keep this between us. | |
| It's a personal phone call between me and you. | |
| I shouldn't have to even think about you going on air. | |
| The conversations that we have, that you have with him, that you have with Adam, ever, did you ever be like, hey, don't ever... | |
| I guess you could say this is months ago, so it doesn't matter now, but, yeah, I mean... | |
| Talk about this. | |
| No, you should know. | |
| It's not a good look. | |
| Keep your mouth shut. | |
| Especially the President Adam of the United States, there's a trust, and once that trust is gone, I don't think anybody would ever talk to her on any type of level, just do me a favor. | |
| And listen, I love Candace to death. | |
| By the way, great reporting. | |
| She revealed that the president of freaking France's husband, wife, whatever, at least at the bare minimum, was in some pedophilia shit because you met him when he was 14 or 12 or whatever. | |
| But when it comes to allegedly, allegedly. | |
| But there shouldn't be a question, Pat, of should he have said something? | |
| Should she have asked? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| The president of the United States isn't asking. | |
| How about this? | |
| You should know. | |
| Whatever I talk to, mind you, when the person calls you, hey, this is a call from the President of the United States, that's it. | |
| That's the cosine. | |
| Unwitting. | |
| I got you. | |
| Adam, your thoughts. | |
| Vinny, I hear you, but you have to understand your audience. | |
| Understand the person you're making. | |
| Trump isn't making a phone call to some random person, some person with information, a business contact. | |
| He's making a phone call to one of the most popular podcasters in the world whose job it is to yap and talk shit. | |
| You say, don't say this to your audience, and you say that up front. | |
| That's like when you're saying, giving a quote to a newspaper or the New York Times, The Washington Post, you'll say this is from an undisclosed source. | |
| You'll say that. | |
| Or I'll talk to you on background. | |
| Exactly. | |
| You'd say, listen, Candace, I know that you have a big platform. | |
| Do not mention this, but here's what I need from you. | |
| And listen, if the Trump is basically saying, hey, as much as shallow it is about Macron basically trying to defend his wife, people have emotions, people have feelings. | |
| If it's a matter of saving lives and ending of war, you do what you're told. | |
| Because to me, this whole thing that we talked about, signal versus noise, noise is whether Bridget Macron has a penis or not. | |
| Signal is ending a freaking war. | |
| It's not even close, in my opinion. | |
| Yeah, but no, Adam, I agree. | |
| I agree 100%. | |
| Okay, so we'll just end it right there. | |
| Let me ask this. | |
| Let me ask this other question. | |
| So, on this one here, we went. | |
| Okay, so maybe the last question. | |
| Maybe the last question. | |
| Trump making the phone call. | |
| Do you think Trump made the right decision calling, or should Trump have told Macron, bro, that's your business? | |
| You want me to call Candace to tell her to stop talking about you? | |
| That's an embarrassing request you're making. | |
| The request means it's right. | |
| So do you think the president should have made the call? | |
| Or do you think the president making the call knew that there's a possibility that Candace is going to talk about this publicly? | |
| Remember when we did the podcast, something happened in the middle of the podcast with the president and he said it, you know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So do you think the president knew she may talk about this publicly? | |
| Yes. | |
| I think in that moment, Pat, because he's like, we talked about such a deal maker, Adam, you said this. | |
| He just wants to make deals. | |
| I don't think in that moment he's going, oh shit, is she going to, because you should have, and because there's a book, Pat, this is in regard to her, too. | |
| There's a book that a guy wrote. | |
| You guys might have read this. | |
| It's called Choose Your Enemies Wisely. | |
| She is choosing Adam. | |
| Elon's a whole different ball of wax. | |
| This is the worst enemy to make, is the president of the United States, who's not only going to be in for four years, whoever's going to come in after him is going to be in there for hopefully, you know, God willing for a bunch of other years. | |
| Nobody's going to trust her. | |
| They're not going to trust her to have any conversations. | |
| She doesn't have to care. | |
| Okay. | |
| The range of people that follow the future looks bright. | |
| It's absolutely amazing. | |
| Seeing people in airports wearing angry Patriot gear, future looks bright gear, all over the place. | |
| Exciting times. | |
| And it's 4th of July. | |
| And we love America and we love freedom. | |
| And if you do as well, you love the brand, Valetamin, you love America. | |
| You believe in the future looks bright. | |
| This is a way for you to support your brands. | |
| This is why we don't take sponsorship money. | |
| We do through the businesses that we run. | |
| And by the way, we are shameless capitalists. | |
| We don't hide it. | |
| We believe in capitalism. | |
| We believe this is the way to make the money so you don't have to go and have to be loyal to somebody that's giving you money. | |
| Our loyalty is to you. | |
| We talk to you raw, open. | |
| And if you like it, you don't like it, great. | |
| You get to menet us and say, Pat, I disagree with you. | |
| I can't believe you said this. | |
| And if you agree, great. | |
| We talk about it as well. | |
| So this weekend, 4th of July, we have a blown out sale up to 60%. | |
| All right. | |
| Always a salesman. | |
| Shout out to BBD. | |
| Speaking of which, okay. | |
| So, yeah, this actually, I was going to react to a video here with the Iran strikes because I know they got in a. | |
| Yeah, I think this was it. | |
| Another trillion dollar war that has a heavy cost to America, including lives. | |
| What triggered Operation Rising Lion? | |
| Was it self-defense? | |
| Was it something more calculated? | |
| What are the stakes for America? | |
| Is this the start of peace in the Middle East, or is it the opening act of another trillion-dollar war that has a heavy cost to America, including lives? | |
| So, and I'm going to let you start us out here. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Sure. | |
| Put on my flag. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, on Thursday of this week, Israel carried out strikes in Iran, essentially beginning what is now referred to as a war. | |
| The strikes were carried out right before Donald Trump, the president of the United States, of course, was supposed to have another round, I believe the sixth round of diplomatic negotiations with Iran to get a nuclear deal, a new nuclear deal, because in 2018, Trump ripped up the original nuclear deal, which prevented Iran from enriching enough uranium to build nuclear weapons. | |
| That brings us to today, where you have the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, for literally decades trying to push the United States to go to war in Iran on Israel's behalf. | |
| He decides to carry out this strike. | |
| There's now evidence indicating that Trump did give him his blessing to do this. | |
| And so what's the argument? | |
| Well, of course, Israel is making the self-defense argument. | |
| And I'll give you a little taste of what Netanyahu had to say when he was on Fox News being interviewed by Brett Baer just yesterday. | |
| Take a look. | |
| No, no, first video. | |
| First video that I sent you. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| All right, we're headed away from 1800. | |
| So we didn't make it for the video, guys. | |
| It's all good. | |
| I might play some Marvel rivals if Chris is on. | |
| If not, we're going to call it a day because I'm dying. | |
| One second. | |
| Anna just wanted more screen time, so just see one second. | |
| There it was right there. | |
| Natalia's doing a good job pulling this up. | |
| But Brett Bear landed that interview. | |
| Yeah, this is the show, by the way. | |
| This is her take. | |
| This is the channel, by the way, chat. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| Red Bear is a G. Did you see him rapping on stage? | |
| Brett Bear is a rapper. | |
| Brett Bear can rap. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Yeah, he's great. | |
| He's probably the best. | |
| All right, well, wait. | |
| All right, niggas, you know what time it is. | |
| The only thing I ask, especially for my YouTube viewers, is for you guys to join OSS. | |
| We just passed 1,500 active supporters. | |
| I want to say thank you guys so much for the OSS. | |
| As you guys know, the OSS is my community. | |
| Starting in July, we're going to start adding in some quirks. | |
| We got a Discord that we're working on, a Telegram group. | |
| Also, giving you guys merch discounts. | |
| You can call it to the debrief show. | |
| I'm going to take in calls. | |
| $4 to join. | |
| I'm running a sale right now for you guys, or you can jump in for the year at $75. | |
| Basically, this is how I offset the fact that YouTube is absolutely robbing me blind because I know that they still run ads on my shit. | |
| The goal is 10,000 strong for us to fight back against the censorship of YouTube. | |
| That's how you really support me, support the mission. | |
| It allows me to continue to do these super long streams for you guys. | |
| A lot of people tell me, hey, Myron, like, you shouldn't even be streaming on YouTube anymore. | |
| You should be streaming on Rumbling Kick Only. | |
| But I'll take the financial hit to reach more people, especially on YouTube where people don't talk about this shit. | |
| All right. | |
| Back to the schedule programming, ninjas. | |
| That's how we keep the fight going, chat. | |
| Niggas demonetize me, fucking losers, man. | |
| JTube. | |
| I just liked it in the text. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I'll read chats real quick. | |
| Group of plastic balls attacking women to protect trans. | |
| Ram Tram says, I didn't realize the power of cannons hold as soft leader. | |
| Okay. | |
| Art news says, Myron Gaines, have you seen Predictive History, Chinese history teacher blowing out the YouTube recently? | |
| Has some ideas on geopolitics? | |
| Okay. | |
| One chess put up the screenshot. | |
| So Castle Club Can, there you go. | |
| One chess put it up for you guys. | |
| Here's how you do it. | |
| Actually, he took a couple of pictures. | |
| I need to take pictures of this shit, man. | |
| Let me get this shit real quick, man. | |
| Step one. | |
| Okay. | |
| And step two. | |
| OK. | |
| And then step three. | |
| So yeah, if any of you guys want to gift OSS Ninjas, this is the way. | |
| Well, let's go back. | |
| Exchange, so you'll know which video I'm talking about. | |
| And I'm going to go in that order so you guys know how I'm going to present this. | |
| Well, she's pulling it up. | |
| All right, someone in the Trump cabinet called her first before Trump called her directly. | |
| Okay, that makes sense. | |
| Give a quick summary of what the central thesis is that you want to. | |
| Okay, so, all right, let's just forget the videos, I guess. | |
| So basically, yeah, yeah. | |
| So Netanyahu argues, we have intelligence indicating that Iran is on the precipice of developing nuclear weapons and that poses a threat to Israel. | |
| At the same time, though, we have Tulsi Gabbard. | |
| Can we pull up that video, Tulsi Gabbard? | |
| In March, Tulsi Gabbard gave a briefing. | |
| She is the secretary of the Department of National Intelligence. | |
| And so she's talking about the threat that Iran poses. | |
| She's specifically addressing them allegedly building nuclear weapons. | |
| Now, this is in March of this year. | |
| Take a look. | |
| The IC continues to assess that Iran is not a nuclear weapon. | |
| And Supreme Leader Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. | |
| The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. | |
| In the past year, we've seen an erosion of a decades-long taboo in Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear weapons advocates within Iran's decision-making apparatus. | |
| Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons. | |
| So, without nuclear weapons, they're not building a nuclear bomb. | |
| That's what she clearly states during this hearing back in March. | |
| Then you have Netanyahu making it appear as though, oh my god, they're about to drop the nuke on Israel. | |
| There's no evidence of that. | |
| There's no indication that they're building a nuclear weapon. | |
| And more importantly, now you can go to the last video I sent you because this is a video from 2002. | |
| And I should also note, dating all the way back to the 1990s, Netanyahu was saying that Iran is about to obtain a nuclear weapon. | |
| This has been a narrative by Netanyahu for literally decades. | |
| And here's what he had to say back in 2002. | |
| Obviously, this was after 9-11, but before the United States did the preemptive war in Iraq, Israel was trying to goad the U.S. to invade Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. | |
| Nonetheless, here's what Netanyahu said. | |
| And this is a tyrant who is feverishly trying to acquire nuclear weapons. | |
| And today, the United States must destroy the same regime because a nuclear-armed Saddam will place the security of our entire world at risk. | |
| is simply not reflecting the reality to assume that Saddam isn't feverishly working to develop nuclear weapons. | |
| If you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime, I guarantee you that it will have... | |
| All right, so I'm looking at the numbers. | |
| Over 100 of you guys have already voted, almost 150. | |
| 88% of you guys say yeah. | |
| All right. | |
| Let me respond. | |
| I told him, sure, what's the topic? | |
| Got you, ninjas. | |
| So just like that, OSS said, yo, go. | |
| All right. | |
| 88% of you guys said go. | |
| So we're going to do it, Niggas. | |
| Enormous positive reverberations on the regime. | |
| Principles of real estate, the three L's, location, location, location. | |
| The three principles of winning the war on terror are the three W's. | |
| Winning, winning, and winning. | |
| The more victories you amass, the easier the next victory becomes. | |
| The first victory. | |
| And that, my friends, is why he wanted so bad to go and attack Iran because he looked at it like we won in Hamas, we won in Lebanon, we won in Syria, and now we got to go to Iran. | |
| That's his strategy, by the way, guys. | |
| He likes some momentum. | |
| In Afghanistan makes a second victory in Iraq that much easier. | |
| The second victory in Iraq will make the third victory that much easier less than dismantling his regime will do. | |
| Okay, so BFD says, Noam Billy, how much weight has your fat ass lost? | |
| Did you waste Myron's money? | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Noambilly, you want to know how much weight you lost? | |
| Actually, I want to know, too, Nigga, how much weight you lost. | |
| Noambilly is taking shots. | |
| How much weight have you lost, Niger? | |
| Whether you're talking about Iran, whether you're talking about Iraq, whether you're talking about Libya, whether you're talking about Afghanistan, there has been this orchestrated effort, specifically by Netanyahu. | |
| He's been kind of like the mouthpiece for it. | |
| But the government of Israel has been trying to get the United States to fight its wars for Israel to the detriment of Americans. | |
| We went into Iraq, 4,000 of our soldiers died based on a complete lie. | |
| There were no weapons of mass destruction. | |
| There was no indication that they were developing nuclear weapons. | |
| It was a lie. | |
| And I believe that right now what's happening is Israel does the strike. | |
| Okay, I think Trump made a huge mistake by giving that strike or giving these current strikes that Israel is doing his blessing. | |
| I think he was under the assumption that that would bring Iran to the negotiating table and give the United States more leverage. | |
| But that is not what's going to happen. | |
| Now Iran is in full-blown war with Israel to the point where Israel is trying to get the United States to fight offensively, not to just defend Israel, but to fight offensively. | |
| So I give you that because people are going to die. | |
| People are already dying. | |
| On the Iranian side, as we speak right now, upward of 220 Iranians dead. | |
| On the Israeli side, it's now in the dozens of innocent people dead. | |
| And I think this is really part of what's known as the Greater Israel Project, right? | |
| They want to have dominance in that region. | |
| And they want to install puppet governments. | |
| And so in the case of Iran, Netanyahu can barely contain himself when it comes to wanting regime change. | |
| But it is always a bad idea when you have a third party or a foreign government carry out or orchestrate regime change in your own country. | |
| We have seen how that works out. | |
| It destabilizes countries. | |
| Look at Libya. | |
| That's a perfect example. | |
| Libya gave up their nuclear program. | |
| And you know what they got in return? | |
| American boots on. | |
| All right, I'm calling Chris right now, chat. | |
| Yeah, Anna's cooking on here. | |
| Again, this is something, probably the only topic that me and people from the Young Turks are going to agree. | |
| All right, let me join in Discord. | |
| I think this nigga Chris is on Discord. | |
| Hold on one sec, chat. | |
| Leo, let me open up this Discord. | |
| This nigga's in here. | |
| hate discord but we made one for you guys anyway bro On the ground to do regime change war. | |
| So my you guys can hear my phone. | |
| Let's go, baby. | |
| Yo. | |
| Yo, Chris. | |
| Yeah, what up? | |
| Yo, they can hear you. | |
| We're on stream. | |
| I just jumped into Discord. | |
| I don't see you on, though. | |
| Chris. | |
| No way. | |
| You're on micro right now. | |
| So you something, I guess. | |
| Chris? | |
| Yes. | |
| You said my mic is echoing? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Something's echoing. | |
| That's just your sucky phone, bro. | |
| Bro, like, I'm on the phone right now. | |
| You're my partner. | |
| Well, either way, yo, send me a, I don't see you on Discord. | |
| Yo, Chris. | |
| Okay, I'll be on in 15 minutes then. | |
| Oh, you're not on right now? | |
| No, I'm not. | |
| Alright Alright there you go Wait, I see. | |
| No, actually, yeah, you're right. | |
| It's probably my phone. | |
| Yeah, I think it's your phone, bro. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| You know why? | |
| Because your stream was open. | |
| That's why. | |
| Okay, never mind. | |
| Oh, yeah, my stream open. | |
| Okay, yeah, yeah, bro. | |
| I was wondering, I was like, what the hell I'm talking to you on my phone? | |
| Like, what the thing? | |
| Like. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| It's not good. | |
| But yeah, but so 15 minutes then? | |
| Yeah, I guess. | |
| I'm on stream. | |
| Is it what? | |
| No, I'm on stream. | |
| No, I'm on stream right now. | |
| Uh, yeah, I mean what I could do is... | |
| Shit. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. | |
| I mean, like, no, like, right now, no rush because I'll company over, but you know, we ain't playing niggas. | |
| Never mind. | |
| We ain't playing this nigga. | |
| No, no, you know, no. | |
| Like, we, like, we can play. | |
| Just like, let me know. | |
| Because, like, normally when I, when I wait for you, you take like at least 32 minutes to an hour to get ready. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, I'll. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, I'll talk with you. | |
| I'll talk with you then, bro. | |
| Wait, wait, wait. | |
| So now, 15 minutes, like, let me know. | |
| Well, yeah, I'm reacting to a video right now, but like, yeah, it's like 13 minutes left on it or whatever. | |
| So I'll be on and be done. | |
| All right. | |
| All right, cool. | |
| All right. | |
| All right. | |
| All right, man. | |
| Peace. | |
| Issue here is that we're being lied to, and we're being lied to to the detriment of Americans and to, I guess, to the benefit of Israel. | |
| And I don't think that's okay. | |
| Adam, do you want to? | |
| I actually have some thoughts, but I know you're far more well-versed than me. | |
| Well, I mean, I'm an American-American first. | |
| So respectfully, what's your point? | |
| My come on, Adam. | |
| She made a bunch of good points, bro. | |
| Basically, they want a regime change in Iran. | |
| And Nanya was going to stop at nothing to do it. | |
| Guys, by the way, thank you guys so much. | |
| We just crossed 1800. | |
| So what I'll do, guys, is I'm tired as fuck. | |
| I'm not going to lie. | |
| I slept three hours or whatever, but I'll play. | |
| What I'll do is I'll stream on kick some gaming with Chris. | |
| So what I might do is I think I might walk frank. | |
| I'll finish reacting here. | |
| Walk frank, come back, and stream on kick. | |
| I might do that so I can end the show nice and clean, and then I'll start up another stream on kick for you guys. | |
| Because, yeah, bro, I barely slept, man. | |
| I'm tired as fuck. | |
| But hey, man, we grinded it out eight hours plus. | |
| The point is the United States should not be backing Israel in this war. | |
| Even though we didn't hit to 1800 in the time limit, it's fine. | |
| I'll still stay on and I'll play a couple games with Chris. | |
| I'll stream for like an hour or two, do some Marvel rivals on kick. | |
| Or of aggression against Iran. | |
| Iran is not a threat to our national security. | |
| There's no evidence of that whatsoever. | |
| That's true. | |
| They're not a threat whatsoever. | |
| They really aren't, bro. | |
| Like, they're really not. | |
| I don't think that's true. | |
| Niggas are on the other side of the world, bro. | |
| Ooh, Anna. | |
| Based on what? | |
| Okay, based on the fact that she just said they have a huge amount of enriched uranium. | |
| They do. | |
| They have six bombs worth. | |
| So let's start with that. | |
| You want to know who has. | |
| But they don't have the capability of delivering it all the way to the United States. | |
| Nuclear weapons? | |
| Israel. | |
| Yeah, facts. | |
| Israel. | |
| Hold on. | |
| No, no, not allegedly. | |
| Not allegedly. | |
| Hold on. | |
| There's a difference. | |
| Israel is not chanting death to America. | |
| They are not. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Bro, when they say death to America, bro, guys, when they say death to America, it doesn't mean let's kill the U.S. citizens. | |
| They don't want, they don't like the American empire. | |
| Okay? | |
| That's what it is. | |
| They don't like the American Empire, the government, et cetera. | |
| Because let's be honest here, we have a government that allows Israel to run rampant across the Middle East. | |
| That's what they're talking about. | |
| Okay? | |
| They oppose the U.S. government. | |
| Now, do I like that? | |
| No, I don't actually. | |
| However, we have to be honest here that a lot of the problems we have in the Middle East is because of our really bad fucking foreign policy, bro. | |
| Ideologically captured. | |
| On top of that, they just got detonators, which makes them more dangerous. | |
| What is the proof that they're doing this? | |
| They have nuclear sites that both chill. | |
| This is the same Iraq narrative. | |
| Yeah, I was going to say, bro, literally, this is 2003. | |
| This is the same shit they used to say about Iraq. | |
| Falling for it again. | |
| 20 years later. | |
| I agree with you that I don't want Iraq ever again. | |
| But I see driving toward that. | |
| We're totally driving toward that. | |
| Because you're right on something doesn't mean you're right on everything. | |
| I'm right on everything. | |
| Can I also say this is not that important? | |
| So that's where you made a problem. | |
| Okay, tell me where I'm wrong. | |
| Tell me where I'm wrong. | |
| Sometimes we're on our weapons, though. | |
| Tell me where I'm wrong. | |
| Yeah, I'll be honest. | |
| Anna is obviously far more versed in this topic than the other individuals on this broadcast. | |
| Are you going to go fight? | |
| Are you going to enlist and go fight on behalf of Israel? | |
| I have family. | |
| I have friends that are in the IDF. | |
| Okay, that doesn't help the argument here. | |
| They're in the IDF. | |
| They're in Israel. | |
| If you're American. | |
| You should not be calling for American soldiers to fight Israel's war. | |
| You're disoriented. | |
| Okay, hold on. | |
| And I'm going to talk to them. | |
| I'm going to ask you one question. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Okay, Adam got. | |
| But if we're going to talk, talk, and then let me talk. | |
| Let me just say one thing. | |
| One thing, real quick. | |
| One thing. | |
| I don't get to talk. | |
| You kept going on. | |
| You did. | |
| Anna, welcome to your show. | |
| Go ahead, sweetheart. | |
| The country that is currently carrying out a genocide in Gaza has nuclear weapons and they have the audacity to talk about how other countries in the region are a threat to their national security. | |
| Okay, that holds. | |
| You let me just say one thing. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| I appreciate that Netanyahu is a terrible person. | |
| He's a flawed person. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I appreciate that nobody wants to see Iraq again. | |
| But on top of the fact that I do think there is some legitimate concern at this moment with regard to nuclear weapons, there's also intercontinental ballistic missiles. | |
| Every country has that. | |
| Are we going to invade every country because they have missiles? | |
| They're not going to bring death to America. | |
| The top funders of terror, the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Shia militias, they have assassination plots against our president. | |
| There's cyber. | |
| There's no evidence of that either, by the way. | |
| Where does that mean? | |
| The CIA loves to let go of the United States into the United States. | |
| I want to understand your central thesis. | |
| Here's my goal. | |
| What is your central thesis? | |
| That Iran is not a threat to America. | |
| Iran is not a threat to the American American. | |
| There's no evidence that Iran is a threat to America. | |
| nuclear weapons? | |
| They are part of... | |
| Are they developing nuclear weapons or not? | |
| They are not developing nuclear weapons. | |
| There is no evidence of that. | |
| So why are they having nuclear peace talks? | |
| Why do they have deaths? | |
| Because they think it's fun? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Because nuclear. | |
| Okay. | |
| If we can't live in reality, they're having nuclear peace talks. | |
| Let me answer you. | |
| To do what? | |
| To talk about the nuclear weapons that they're not developing? | |
| Okay. | |
| That makes no sense to me. | |
| First of all, I would not be surprised if they geared up enriching uranium as a result of the fact that they definitely did. | |
| As, you know, you call threshold, deterrent, whatever. | |
| The point is, is that they need to maintain some semblance of ability to enrich uranium to protect themselves. | |
| Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal in 2018. | |
| The Iranian nuclear deal. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me make that. | |
| I'm not developing nuclear weapons. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let's just go. | |
| Okay. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Iran is part of the non-proliferation treaty. | |
| Do you know what that is? | |
| Go ahead, explain. | |
| Non-proliferation. | |
| NPT. | |
| Yep. | |
| I told you guys, like, bro, like, foreign policy, guys, most political commentators don't understand foreign policy. | |
| You know, I'll give credit to Anna. | |
| She does understand it. | |
| Obviously, Chenk from Young Turks. | |
| You know, Democrats tend to be a bit more foreign policy savvy because of the nature of their humanitarian aid a lot of the time. | |
| Republicans are not good with foreign policy. | |
| I will be honest about that. | |
| The right wing is extremely weak when it comes to foreign policy because I'll tell you why, and I've said it before, the reason why they're weak on it is because the elephant in the room, when you deal with foreign policy, is Israeli control. | |
| And Republicans don't want to touch that boogeyman. | |
| So they'd rather focus on talking about trans and gay and all this other shit. | |
| King Lajeune says Armor Reforger is a good one. | |
| Okay. | |
| Noam Billy approaching 40. | |
| Good stuff. | |
| No and Billy. | |
| I've been struggling with diet. | |
| That's obviously my fault, but I have been talking to OneChess the whole time. | |
| He's been helping me out. | |
| I go to the gym three times a week, minimum. | |
| He knows my progress. | |
| I've been adding things to my workout routine. | |
| My guidance. | |
| One chest says Rowan. | |
| Good, good, good. | |
| 40 is good, but you got to do better, my friend. | |
| You're fat as hell. | |
| Gore, the one says, hey, I'm in CC. | |
| Do a current, I need to sign up. | |
| Oh, it says, I just woke up. | |
| I got to support what you do. | |
| Join OSS, bro, because I'm not going to be streaming this stuff on the CC anymore. | |
| I'm trying to separate shit, obviously. | |
| And also, you know, look, guys, look, let me be very honest about this shit. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm very controversial. | |
| I say crazy shit. | |
| All right. | |
| Obviously, I could tell sometimes, you know, that, you know, the shit I say, Fresh might not agree with, or like it makes him feel uncomfortable. | |
| So I can't be a selfish fucking retard and say wild shit, right, on, you know, Fresh and Fit all the time. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| So that's a shared platform, right? | |
| It's me and him. | |
| And I can't be a fucking selfish retard and say all the crazy shit that I say on Fresh and Fit, bro. | |
| So I'm making this here so that we can, you know, have the discussions that we want to talk about with politics and everything else like that, because that's not fair to Walt, man. | |
| So that's what it is, bro. | |
| That's what it is. | |
| So I'm separating everything, right? | |
| Because obviously my political takes are my political takes. | |
| And, you know, a lot of the times, you know, Fresh is at the suffer because of my fucking political takes, man. | |
| And that's not fair to him. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Sure that they are not developing nuclear weapons. | |
| The country that does have nuclear weapons is Israel. | |
| They are not part of the non-proliferation treaty. | |
| They don't even acknowledge the fact that they have nuclear weapons. | |
| The idea that Israel that has the backing of the top military superpower in this world, and that's the United States, the country that has nuclear weapons is crying about how Iran is such a threat to Israel. | |
| It's ridiculous. | |
| But didn't they just pull? | |
| No, I am not educated enough to fully go in, but what I did see everyone post this morning is that Iran is pulling out of that treaty. | |
| Yeah, I didn't see that. | |
| So what are they in the treaty as well? | |
| So what are the implications? | |
| What does the treaty ensure and break here? | |
| What are the implications of it? | |
| The treaty ensures that they're not developing nuclear weapons. | |
| Here's the problem. | |
| Iran played by the rules and they got fucked anyway. | |
| That is true. | |
| That is true. | |
| They did play by the rules. | |
| And then Trump came in and just tore everything up. | |
| They did play by the rules because the international community was involved. | |
| Nick even said that. | |
| Why is it that both Republicans and Democrats agreed that the nuclear deal was probably the best way we had to actually control Iran's nuclear program? | |
| Why do you think that's the only thing? | |
| Let me understand one thing. | |
| Let me ask you something. | |
| No, I'm not a defender of the government. | |
| I'm a defender of the United States of America and Artie Galji. | |
| You know what? | |
| I think Israel needs to fight its own wars. | |
| Why do they keep pulling the United States into their wars? | |
| America is not around in Israel. | |
| I'm America first. | |
| There's zero. | |
| You're not American first. | |
| Don't say that. | |
| You don't want to. | |
| When you're egging on American war, you're not America first. | |
| We have soldiers in that region right now, tens of thousands of them who are now a target as a result of this. | |
| So are you just like, do you hate Israel blindly that you can't address the facts? | |
| Yeah, this is what they say all the time. | |
| See, I've had a couple of retards in the chat say this too, like you're an Iran defender, you're an Islamist, you're a jihadist. | |
| And I'm just like, all right, bro. | |
| Like, that is the propaganda that Israel says to try to get you to, instead of like attacking your argument, they say, oh, you're an Iran sympathizer. | |
| It's like, no, bro, it's like common sense. | |
| Like, you're trying to destroy their country and effectuate regime change. | |
| Like, of course, they're going to try to get nuclear weapons. | |
| Like, duh, you fucking retard. | |
| What the hell do you think is going to happen? | |
| What the current Israeli government, not just the current Israeli government. | |
| It's like, bro, it's crazy. | |
| It's like, yo, you violently oppress the Palestinians, and then like, you guys get mad when like they fight back. | |
| What do you think is going to happen? | |
| Look, I don't condone what happened on October 7th, but it's like, dude, violent resistance, violent occupation always leads to violent resistance. | |
| That's what happens, unfortunately, with humans. | |
| What the Israeli government over the last several decades has done. | |
| It's like they punch you and then you punch them back and they're like, oh my God, oh, oy Veh. | |
| You know? | |
| Like, it's another Holocaust. | |
| Oh, you know? | |
| Done in lying to Americans and the American government in order to get us to fight their wars for them. | |
| So that's what I have to do. | |
| I'm blaming all the wars. | |
| And I agree we shouldn't have done what we've done in Afghanistan, Iraq, and all that. | |
| Yeah, blame 10 years. | |
| I'll say the same about Iran. | |
| The entire presidential congressional and military apparatus, all of that is based on Bibi Netanyahu's opinion. | |
| Is that what you're saying? | |
| The Israeli government wants to be the dominant force in that region. | |
| Can we pull up the Western newsflash? | |
| They've just taken out all their enemies. | |
| So I don't understand. | |
| Are you defending terrorists? | |
| Yeah, see, there we go. | |
| The defending terrorist claim. | |
| Yeah, Adam's using all the Zionists talking point bingo card. | |
| Let's go, baby. | |
| I don't think this is. | |
| No, no, I'm not defending terrorists. | |
| I don't know what you're saying. | |
| No other country expects the United States to fight their wars for them other than Israel. | |
| Why is that? | |
| Well, Ukraine's doing a pretty good fucking job. | |
| How about that? | |
| So you're dead wrong. | |
| In the case of the United States. | |
| And there's also other countries that we get involved in. | |
| And you should see American troops on the ground in Israel in Gaza, in Lebanon, in Syria, in any of these. | |
| Okay, so what you're doing is yapping and lying. | |
| Here's my problem with you. | |
| You could be loud. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But she didn't lie about anything, bro. | |
| That's all true. | |
| You could be wrong. | |
| You don't have to be. | |
| You don't have to be aware of that. | |
| When you're loud and wrong, that's when you get in trouble, okay? | |
| She's factually correct, man, on everything. | |
| And when we made Iran, I've been trying to speak this entire, it's like 20 minutes in. | |
| I haven't. | |
| Okay. | |
| She's interrupting to talk. | |
| Let's see if she says something smart. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Said a single word. | |
| Go ahead, Linda. | |
| Go crazy. | |
| Go nuts. | |
| I don't want to be like. | |
| Just go. | |
| Well, anyway. | |
| I just want to say, just because you're yelling doesn't mean that you're correct, but that's not my main point. | |
| My main point is this. | |
| I'm not even pro the Netanyahu regime, but let's get our facts correct. | |
| Iran is completely desecrating all agreements that it's previously made. | |
| In fact, just two weeks ago, they refused to let nuclear inspectors into their infrastructure, into their facilities. | |
| That is a clear violation of pre- Yeah, that's because they backed out the deal, man. | |
| Like, what the fuck? | |
| Like, they're trying to attack them. | |
| The IEA, IAEA, has had spies in there that have been spying on their program. | |
| So, yeah, of course not. | |
| To say that that's not happening is completely dishonest and disingenuous. | |
| And I'm not even. | |
| And Israel, with the hypocrisy, doesn't even let the IAEA go into their country. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Pro-Netanyahu. | |
| I just want to lay out the facts here. | |
| This is what's happening. | |
| They are violating agreements. | |
| Yeah, because we violated ours. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Bro. | |
| Can this woman, she interrupted to say that they violated the agreement that we had violated originally? | |
| Well, let me ask you something. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| You play by the rules for years. | |
| You literally play by the rules. | |
| You're part of the. | |
| Yes, this is a fact. | |
| The international community literally was overseeing the entire process. | |
| We oversaw it. | |
| Russia oversaw it. | |
| China was involved. | |
| France was involved. | |
| Several different countries were involved in this nuclear deal, man, to make sure that there was oversight so every party was happy. | |
| And Iran did play by the rules. | |
| Part of the non-proliferation treaty, you're allowing IAEA inspectors to come into your country. | |
| And you Donald Trump ripping up the nuclear deal was probably one of the worst geopolitical decisions that have happened within the last 10 years. | |
| And you guys could take that one to the fucking bank. | |
| Damn, son. | |
| Where'd you find this? | |
| Still see that Israel is successful in goading the United States to fight this war. | |
| They're still lying about what Iran is up to. | |
| Wouldn't you just say, you know what, Effett? | |
| Why am I even part of this? | |
| Why are we allowed? | |
| Facts. | |
| They're paying money to Israel to try to destroy us. | |
| Like, of course, I'm not sure. | |
| So you're saying Iran is playing by the rules. | |
| Yeah, Iran is absolutely black. | |
| Now I know who you are. | |
| You believe Iran. | |
| Trump. | |
| Respect. | |
| I don't believe Iran. | |
| Dude, she said they were playing by the rules. | |
| This was before Trump ripped up the nuclear deal in 2018. | |
| Then obviously them playing by the rules started to erode. | |
| I believe international inspectors, and I believe the United States, as they, by the way, if you don't want Iran to develop nuclear weapons, best way to do that is to remain in the Iran nuclear deal. | |
| But Netyahoo hated the Iran nuclear. | |
| He was one of the biggest lobbyists to get it destroyed. | |
| He even challenged Obama, came to fucking Congress and spoke against the president of the United States, bro. | |
| City President of the United States, like, I don't agree with this nuclear deal. | |
| What are we relitigating? | |
| Wait, they did have you to Juliana. | |
| That was not. | |
| You just moved the goal post. | |
| First, you've said it. | |
| I literally don't understand. | |
| Let's go clearly here. | |
| Anna first said Iran is playing by all the rules. | |
| That's what you said. | |
| They were playing by all the rules. | |
| I told you that they refused to let nuclear inspectors into their facilities just two weeks ago. | |
| So now you've moved the gold. | |
| Yeah, because they're a fucking woman. | |
| They're about to get attacked by the United States and Israel. | |
| Of course, they're not going to comply with the IAEA. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Dude. | |
| And you're saying, oh, but it's not their fault because they didn't play. | |
| They played by the rules. | |
| Now they cannot. | |
| Yes, it's called common sense. | |
| You need to understand why people do the things that they do. | |
| They're not complying because we pulled out the nuclear deal. | |
| We're fucking, Israel's going to attack them. | |
| They've been talking about regime change for a minute. | |
| Of course, they're going to say, IAEA can't come in. | |
| We know that you guys have spies in here, which they do. | |
| How do you think we knew about Ford and all these nuclear facilities? | |
| What was in there? | |
| I played by the rules because Israel isn't. | |
| Playing the standard, like you're changing. | |
| Let me just calmly try to explain it so you guys understand what I'm saying. | |
| Yeah, dude. | |
| All these other cohosts are completely out of their depth in this conversation, dude. | |
| They can't even engage with what she's saying, bro. | |
| They can't even engage with what she's saying. | |
| Like, they're putting like random, oh, they didn't comply with the IAEA. | |
| Yeah, because fucking the IAEA was spying on them and we pulled out of the nuclear deal. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| For years, Iran played by the rules because they don't want war. | |
| Okay, they allowed the international community to come in. | |
| They did abide by the Iran nuclear deal. | |
| Even after Trump pulled out, for a few years after that, they were not enriching uranium because they wanted to re-enter the deal. | |
| By the way, Biden. | |
| Because there's crippling sanctions on them. | |
| I'm sincere power. | |
| Biden promised on the campaign trail that he was going to re-enter the Iran nuclear deal. | |
| He didn't do that. | |
| So Democrats are a problem in this scenario as well. | |
| Hold on, let me finish my point. | |
| Let me finish my point. | |
| CCI allow you to talk? | |
| So I need to ask you something, Adam. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Do you think Tulsi Gabbard was lying to the American people when she said that Iran was not building a nuclear weapon? | |
| Was she lying? | |
| I don't know what Tulsi what information she's looking at. | |
| Shout out to Master Chess subscribed. | |
| PIP says the right side doesn't know overseas shit because most have the mindset of just bomb that shit and be done with it. | |
| W you pushing through for the people. | |
| Oh, slash, I got you, Pip. | |
| Yeah, bro. | |
| Republicans don't. | |
| Republicans, I'll be honest with you, bro. | |
| They're stupid on foreign policy, bro. | |
| Tess says, bro, by the way, if the chat doesn't get ignored, Jade, like on my chats, we hit 1800 for OME TV. | |
| Pop pop, I said specifically we need to hit it before I finish reacting to the PBD video, and we didn't. | |
| So what I'm going to do is I'm going to take Frank and I'm still going to give you all some content. | |
| I'm going to go and I'm going to stream on kick and play some Marvel rivals with Chris. | |
| So I'm still going to stream for you guys, even though we didn't hit the number. | |
| Armor Forger is a good one. | |
| Appreciate you, man. | |
| But I'm pretty sure Iran is working on a nuclear weapon. | |
| Question for you. | |
| Sure, based on what? | |
| Question for you. | |
| Based on what? | |
| How are you sure? | |
| Here's the question. | |
| Enough enriched uranium. | |
| She says that they have accelerated. | |
| And if they're not working on nuclear weapons, why do they have detonation? | |
| Okay, so what do you think is going to happen? | |
| How do they talk about the Islamic regime of Iran? | |
| How do you deter? | |
| That's why they have those people there, for deter. | |
| Just like white people have weapons for deter that's doing a genocide right now having a nuclear weapon. | |
| Do you have any problems with that? | |
| But let's say we're talking about Iran, right? | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, we're talking about Israel and Iran. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Israel military superpower because of the United States. | |
| They have nuclear weapons. | |
| They're carrying out the mass slaughter of innocent people in Gaza and the West Bank, which had nothing to do with the mock October 7th. | |
| It's not. | |
| It's all related. | |
| We're pretending as if Israel is a double and they're not Arabs. | |
| I've learned my lesson. | |
| Don't try to convince someone who's completely off-left field. | |
| Someone who's actually educated on the matter, yeah. | |
| So here's my question for you. | |
| Well, Anna's on this show chat, so we'll see when I go over there. | |
| How do you feel about the Islamic regime in Iran? | |
| Somebody said to Anna on the show. | |
| They're terrible people. | |
| So are the Saudis. | |
| So are a bunch of other countries we do trade with. | |
| We have literally violations of the proliferation agreement. | |
| Why are people in Iran? | |
| Saudis are pretty bad. | |
| They killed tens of thousands of innocent Yemenis. | |
| I'm cheering for Israel. | |
| Why is that? | |
| Yeah, no. | |
| 80% of Irvinians actually detested. | |
| Iranians are rooting for Israel. | |
| If there's one country that Israel has the highest approval readings, it's within the Iranians absolutely detest Israel, bro. | |
| They hate them so much that they fucking got behind the Ayatollah, even if they don't like him because they got attacked by a foreign country, bro. | |
| They got reunited. | |
| I mean, I talked about this yesterday. | |
| Nick talked about it as well. | |
| Guys, like, Iran is 100% united with this shit. | |
| Iran. | |
| Iranians. | |
| Iranians. | |
| Why is Reza Pelavi getting on TV, doing an interview? | |
| Bro, nobody likes Reza. | |
| Bro, come on, man. | |
| Come on, dude. | |
| Pull it up. | |
| Saying, please, Iranians, now's the time to get it. | |
| Because the regime changed, failed. | |
| He tried that and they failed. | |
| Vote against the regime. | |
| That's installed by Israel. | |
| That's what you're saying what you're doing, respectfully. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You're defending Iran. | |
| I'm defending the United States. | |
| It's not about the God. | |
| This is the Zionist actic. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| Well positioned to be in the future. | |
| Yeah, I'm defending the United States. | |
| The country that yells death to America. | |
| Right. | |
| A United States. | |
| I don't want our soldiers fighting this war. | |
| I don't want American. | |
| You're using a strongman argument because our soldiers are not fighting this war. | |
| But they could be. | |
| It's like they could be any minute. | |
| And that's. | |
| No, they're not. | |
| They're not in Iran. | |
| But what makes you say that? | |
| The whole thing is already so suspicious. | |
| So the argument is that we don't want them could be. | |
| Right, but they're not now. | |
| So let's live in reality. | |
| Trump initially did not. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Come on, dude. | |
| Like, they could literally bomb the U.S. bases all across. | |
| Denied involvement. | |
| That'd be bad if they did that, but they could do it. | |
| Putting people in danger's way for what? | |
| For Israel is the point. | |
| Correct. | |
| And then he later went on and said he actually had full knowledge of everything going down the entire time. | |
| Thank you so much for watching. | |
| All right. | |
| So anyway, yeah, I might go on there, guys. | |
| Figure out the fucking time and everything like that. | |
| So this is what I'm going to do, guys. | |
| I'm going to go walk Frank because he's been here for eight hours, chat. | |
| Niggas dying. | |
| I need to feed him, walk him. | |
| Also, I'm going to fix the cameras. | |
| This camera angle, I think, is good, but I need to fix this camera angle right here. | |
| I got to get with TPC and fix it. | |
| And because it's like fucking, it blurs for some odd fucking reason, pissing me off. | |
| And then this camera right here, oh, it's off. | |
| But yeah, the up above camera, I got to change the coloring on it. | |
| So I'm going to fix the cameras with TPC, stream with Chris. | |
| I'll be back on kick in a little bit. | |
| So, you know, that'll be a good time. | |
| I'll be back tomorrow, five o'clock. | |
| We're going to cover what I'll probably cover. | |
| I'll cover Jeff Bezos. | |
| And I'll also cover the Big Beautiful Bill. | |
| I'll cover those two different, two, two things. | |
| So politics and some red pills. | |
| It's going to be a good time. | |
| So love you guys. | |
| I'm going to be back on kick here in about, give me like, let me see here. | |
| I ordered some food too because I haven't eaten either. | |
| I was like, I'll be here for like a bit. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm going to go walk Frank. | |
| Eat. | |
| I'll be back in like, I'll play in like at like two o'clock, guys. | |
| So two o'clock. | |
| I'll see you ninjas on kick. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm going to come back on a kick of two. | |
| So love you guys. | |
| It's kick.com slash Myron GainesX. | |
| I'll be back on kick out at 2 a.m. guys. | |
| And we're going to play some Marvel Rivals with Chris and Chinaman. | |
| It's going to be going to be a good time. | |
| Love you guys. | |
| Peace out. | |
| And what do we do here? | |
| I'll leave you guys with a song that you ninjas like. | |
| You guys. | |
| Alright guys. | |
| Yeah, no, I'm going to grind for y'all a little bit more. | |
| Like I said before, like we didn't hit the 1800 in time like I wanted for the OME TV, but that's fine. | |
| I will go ahead and I'll still stream on kick, game a little bit with Chris. | |
| I'm fucking tired. | |
| I'll debate. | |
| You know what I'll do? | |
| Maybe I'll do IDF debates on Thursday because Thursday is going to be a longer stream. | |
| I'll do IDF debates for you guys on Thursday. | |
| Fair? | |
| So we'll make that happen. | |
| And then we're going to do the cookie monster event next week with Corey Hughes. | |
| Cookie Monster event will definitely be next week. | |
| So guys, smash the like button on the way out. | |
| Love you guys. | |
| I'll be back on kick at 2 a.m. | |
| later guys Boop, boop! | |
| Boom, boom, television. | |
| This is what you get for all your evil deeds. | |
| Boom, boom, boom. | |
| Boom, boom, television. | |
| You brought this upon yourself. | |
| It's your time to bleed. | |
| Boom, boom, boom. | |
| Boom, boom, television. |
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