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Social thing that we have nowadays that's literally destroying our young women.
Um, but it's gonna be a lot harder for the young guys because I don't think, um, you know, like even myself, like I have to get a lot of the stuff from looking at the internet, talking to my younger people, but social media has absolutely corrupted both men and women, both young men and young women.
You know, that much I can understand, especially the pornography side of it.
Like we grew up and kids, we had we had access to nudie magazines and you'd have to go to a store and ask for the top shelf or go into the movie store and go behind the beads and things and if you wanted to catch a glimpse.
And now it's like the most hardcore at your fingertips.
I can't imagine what that does to kids.
And we're going to have to figure this out because we've got three kids of our own.
Yeah, it's really ubiquitous.
It's wild, right?
Like used to be very hard to access.
Now it's, I mean, thankfully they got rid of it in Florida where you have to log in and show your age, which is good.
But yeah, man, I mean, this is like all of the ubiquity of pornography, social media, et cetera.
Like all of this has been extremely destructive.
And I think it's going to have some serious consequences for the next generation.
This is the question I had to ask when you said, you know, like women get used to talking back, yada, yada.
And I know I can hear, I can hear the snowflakes screaming.
And part of me says, well, okay, people are equal.
And if someone wants to be a rude jackass, well, they'll end up divorcing like 50 some odd percent of people out there.
Flip side is go to societies where women can't talk back.
And I can only think of like the most extreme religious societies, which are not, you know, which I wouldn't want to emulate either.
So there is something of a middle ground in there where, I mean, I do believe spouses should talk back to each other, but they should fight in private, not in public.
And I definitely understand the idea, the emasculating thing that goes on with being slapped by a woman.
And that becomes somehow cute and acceptable.
But God forbid, the roles are reversed and it becomes quite literally criminal spousal abuse.
I don't know what the middle group is.
When I say talk back, I mean as and I'm not saying like, oh yeah, you know, Sean Connery, your girl.
No, what I'm saying is that.
And for those, for those who don't know, Sean Conner, you talked about slapping a woman if she was rude to him.
Yeah, yeah.
So, no, what I mean by that is like, she's constantly challenging your authority.
Like you say, hey, this is going to be the final decision.
And she doesn't respect that, right?
Because, you know, it should have, I think, any relationship dynamic, the man needs to be the final decision maker.
I'm not saying don't listen to what your girl has to say or to what your woman has to say.
Obviously, her opinion matters and what's going on, but you need to be the final decision maker.
So, and but when you make these final decisions or when you say something, she's constantly changing, challenging your authority.
And I say that because we live in a society now where it's amazing to me how many times I ask a woman, hey, what do you think men want?
And she says, like girls literally think that challenging their guy or making him better through challenging him is something that men men want.
And it's actually alarming how many young women think that this is something that men find attractive.
And it's like, no, that's not what we find attractive whatsoever.
But they've been indoctrinated through feminism, through mainstream media, to think challenging their man is something that men want.
No, the last thing a guy wants to do is work all day, challenge the world, then come home and have his wife challenge him.
That's completely antithetical.
But young women think that this is attractive.
So that's what I mean by that.
And I just happened to flip over to the Rumble and look at one chat.
It just stuck up right now.
It says, Christine Anderson, this guy's a real jerk.
He hates women and thinks we are useless.
I know what your response is going to be, but let me hear it.
Yeah.
So the majority, the reality is a majority of women are useless.
And they don't like to hear that.
But, you know, a big reason why so many women are useless is because they've never had to be useful, if we're going to be honest here.
Because a lot of women, right?
You know, especially if they're attractive, they just get everything given to them.
Like, let's be very candid here.
A man's life is significantly harder than a woman's life in every regard, right?
Men have to earn their value.
Women don't.
Now, if women do want to work hard and become successful, absolutely.
There's a bunch of women out there that are extremely hardworking, right?
I could give my ex-sister as an example, but that's far and few between.
Most women prefer not to enter the workforce or work a super hard job or have to go through ridiculous levels of education to reach that job.
And if they do actually go through, they end up quitting or backing out because the reality is there's no real proclivity for women to earn an abundance of money or resources because their sexual market value is not determined by that.
A man is far more likely to work hard because if we don't work hard, we don't get laid.
We don't get sexual access.
We can't procreate.
But for a woman, if she decides I don't want to work hard, that's not going to affect her ability to find a suitor.
Okay.
And in many cases, it'll probably make it easier for her to find a suitor when she's not too successful.
So when I say these things, women get angry, but the reality is that there's a significant burden of performance on men versus women.
The funny thing is, it's only the focus on sex that I think would piss some people off.
This is pretty decent advice for everybody is make yourself useful and don't rely on superficial elements of your being in order to get what you want.
I mean, I'm not one of them, but I've seen plenty of men who are so good looking, it's actually been a curse in their life because they get things that they don't necessarily have to work for or deserve.
And also, it becomes something of like people look at them and they don't see someone who worked hard and did whatever.
They just see someone like painfully good looking, chiseled, and whatever.
So, I mean, I think this applies to everybody.
And here's another thing too, real quick.
I'll tell you, Viva.
So, notice how people get offended when I speak in generalities.
This is something also that's a unique phenomenon that I see only with women.
When I speak in generalities with men, no one bats an eye.
If I were to say, yeah, most men are complete idiots and buffoons, no one in the chat would get angry at me and say, get for me saying that.
They'd be like, Yeah, a lot of guys are fucking idiots.
I agree with you on that.
But if I say most women are retards, what the hell?
Like, women have an inability to understand that the world operates on generalizations and they will get offended and they will go ahead and make an argument for the exception to the rule.
Well, I'm not an idiot.
I am smart.
I have a 4.0 GPA, even though the whole education system is literally, you know, made for women to be better slaves because they tell you to sit there and follow instructions.
So, of course, little girls do better.
That's a whole other conversation.
The whole education system is scammed on women.
But the point I'm trying to make is like men, when I say, when I talk in generalities, no problem.
No one's going to bat an eye.
Even if I say something bad about men, but when I speak in generalities about women and I say something negative, they get extremely offended and they're unable to think of things from a rationally sound, logically sound perspective, and they get angry and offended and they get mad at me.
It's a phenomenon that only women have this thing.
Well, I say you might be right on a broader scale, but if you speak, if you generalize about other demographics, I think you'll find those demographics or those broad groups will get angry at the generalizations.
And we're probably going to get there in one second.
But just the thing about you said about school being designed for girls.
Yeah.
And any girl or anybody who's saying that's that's a sexist thing.
I've got, we've got three kids, one boy.
And we're homeschooling the boy now because school is quite clearly not made, or at least today's schools are not made to deal with rambunctious boys because they are, I don't care what anybody says, physiologically, psychologically different and not necessarily better.
Boys are, or I think, are bigger idiots for a longer period of time than girls.
They don't sit still.
And they're not just like harder to deal with.
They're more destructive also because they're like strong, strong, you know, primates compared to girls that don't break shit all the time.
And the teachers who happen to be at school happen to be young females by and large, like 90 some odd percent who can't deal with young boys.
And it either leads to the emasculation of young boys or the medication of young boys, or I should say the prescription of medication to young boys, or what we did, pull them out and we'll do it ourselves, despite it making us both go freaking crazy.
It's a thousand percent true, or at least accurate.
But it's funny, Myron.
I can see people not liking the delivery, not liking the, you know, some of the rhetoric, but it's very tough to disagree with thousands of years of human nature.
Like this is what religion was predicated on.
This is what the nuclear family was predicated on, and whether or not there are exceptions to the rule that by and large, there's plenty of nuclear families where there's abuse and broken marriages and unhappiness, but you're talking about odds over a longer period of time.
And in poker, an amateur can win every now and again, but over the life of years, the professionals will win just because all the odds tend to flip in their favor over a period of time.
But I'm just saying what we all say in a locker room anyway.
And I also, the other thing you were saying, right, like I find it interesting, right?
If you look at ancient Islam, biblical times, et cetera, there was no cell phones.
There was no emails.
There was no text messaging.
How is it that all these different ancient civilizations understood that men need to be in leadership roles in order for the civilization to progress, right?
Like whether it was Asian, Indians, Native Americans, whatever, they all were patriarchies and understood that men need to be at the helm for us to be able to progress as a society.
And then even to this day, it wasn't until we have all this technology and all this modernity that now that we've pretty much civilized the world to an incredible degree that we let women have some kind of power.
And they still fuck shit up.
So my thing is, I'm just saying the truth that quite frankly, when it comes to leading a society, prosperity, et cetera, men need to be at the helm.
And if they don't, we're going to end up with women at the helm.
And that's going to lead us to problems.
Because let's be honest, man, women suck at everything when it comes to competing with men.
Men are better than women at every single endeavor when you actually compare the two genders.
And for all the women that are probably losing their minds watching the stream right now, it's like, that's not true.
We have kids.
Well, you need us to have kids, you dumb bimbo.
So the reality is, in every regard where humans can compete, you put a man against a woman, we are better than them.
I'm trying to think now, because sports, it's an easy one, except they'll say gymnastics, women perform better than men.
I was going to make the joke that there haven't been very many warrior societies that were led by women because I presume they would have been decimated by the other warriors that had like the Maoris as their warriors and whatever.
Okay, let me try to let me try to tell you.
We're better than them.
I'm going to feign outrage of what you just said.
It's terrible.
There have been very many good female chess players.
There's been very many good.
I can only think in sports.
Literature, there have been some great thinkers.
So, I mean, the question is going to be, you mean just by numbers, proportion, statistics?
And then the argument's going to be, well, that was only because, you know, the Ayan Rands of the world had to break through the patriarchy.
There are just as many great philosopher women as there were men, but men kept them down.
That's going to be the retort.
Yeah, they always say that.
But then I say, well, women have more privilege and rights now than ever before.
And they still, like, with affirmative action, they still can't beat men out.
Like, it's well, excuse me.
In the hip-hop industry, I'll say the women are doing very well with Cardi B. In the music industry, what's her face?
Lady Gaga just went to space.
No, it is interesting because people will say, you're wrong.
There have been great many female thinkers.
And then you're going to say, yes, but then statistically, you know, the ancient Greeks were by and large men.
The argument's going to be, well, that's because the men prevented the women from reaching the tops or they built their knowledge base off the backs of women.
And then it's just going to be a question of statistics.
And then it's going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Did the women not attain those peaks of intellect and physique because they were forced to raise families or because they chose to raise families?
And then is it a natural order of things to have that distinct or that differentiation between the sexes?
I'm going to have to mull that over.
Yeah, no, I always say that.
Suppose every correct part of me wants to get mad at you for what you just said, but now I'm going to have to actually think about it for a second.
Yeah, because even when you think about it, right?
Like, because women now, right, over the past, what, 60, 80 years, right?
Thanks to feminism, they pretty much have had all the same rights and privileges as men.
Why do they still not dominate STEM?
Why do they still not dominate infrastructure jobs?
Why do they still not dominate certain fields where they can make quite a bit of impact?
And the reality comes down to men and women are simply just different.
And women aren't interested in a lot of the things that men are interested in that just tend to lead to civilization growth.
Women just aren't interested in this stuff.
You know, it comes down to it.
STEM industry, anything that's not based on strength as a general requirement.
So take out athletics, take out oil rigging.
I am trying to think of endeavors that are purely intellectual and then whether or not you reach something of a parody.
But then you get into things like STEM engineering, which is purely intellectual.
There's nothing physical required.
And there'll be statistical overrepresentation at higher levels, but of men, I think, but statistical overrepresentation of women in education.
And so what happens is they're filtered out for whatever the reasons.
Is it because the brain is different or because they realize, yeah, you can't have a family and do this.
But I don't think you can disagree with the stats overall.
I'll be honest.
I think women are just lazier than men in a lot of regards.
And I'll explain what I mean by this, right?
So, so for, I can't tell you how many times, right?
I've met a guy, he had to sacrifice, and this is anecdotal, but I'll go somewhere further with this.
Men will sacrifice, right, a dream because they understand, damn, I can't be a musician and make a bunch of money.
It's just not going to happen.
I got to go ahead and do a job that I hate doing because there's a burden performance on me to get out there and make money.
I got to become an engineer because my family told me I need to do this or else whatever, right?
They'll sacrifice doing what they do.
But women, right, they'll go ahead and they'll also kind of sacrifice.
Okay, my family told me I got to be a pharmacist because I can't be a singer, whatever.
But they're far more likely to quit that job and pursue what they want to do or find a man that will allow them to take care of, you know, the provisioning and stuff.
And then they'll go ahead and pursue their dream.
So in other words, like women have a back door that they can escape out a lot of the times where they don't necessarily have to be the provider.
But for men, it's like, if you don't provide, you're not going to get sexual access.
No one's going to respect you, et cetera.
So we have to work.
Women don't, right?
That's the difference.
I can't tell how many times girls will have a degree, right?
In a certain field, and they'll just quit.
They'll say, I don't want to do it.
And they just want to do it because they don't need to.
Versus the guy, he doesn't want to do it, but he still has to grit up his grid, get up every day and do it.
Well, now, but now I got all there's a logical problem here.
Is that on the one hand, you're saying that, you know, women should be the homemakers and not endeavor to do what the men do and become senior partner at law firms.
Yep.
But then, unless you're suggesting they're not quitting to raise a family, they're just quitting because they're lazy and not actually doing the other part of what you think that they should be doing is the natural order of things, which is building a home.
Yeah, I mean, it depends, right?
So, you know, they might not see it through for different reasons.
Maybe she wants to pursue something else.
Maybe she wants to pursue a family.
But the point I'm trying to make is that they always have that, they always have that luxury of where if they can find a guy to take care of the provisioning side, and then they can focus on what they really want to do.
Versus for us, we can't do that, right?
Like we have to, you know, I can't tell how many times guys, you know, give up on their dreams or stop doing what they want to do or don't pursue what they want to do because it's just simply not going to make enough money for them.
And they understand that they got to live in reality and earn money.
Versus for women, they can go ahead and quit doing what they're doing or find a man to take care of them so they can pursue their dream and do what they want to do.
So with us, we're very rigid in our opportunities versus for them.
They have a bunch of opportunities, right?
And that's because, you know, women are the privileged gender.
And my thing is people get mad at me for acknowledging this and saying it out loud.
They say, oh, well, that's sexist.
Well, reality is sexist.
I argue that sexism only benefits women.
I really can't think of how sexism benefits men.
The only way I could think of that sexism benefits men is like men are basically able to have sex with multiple partners without being judged.
But maybe that if you want to use that as an example, but in general, sexism widely benefits women over men.
Some would actually disagree down now that I thought about it a little bit more that the women that do dominate tend to also be men.
Yeah.
That's the butta bing, but a boom joke.
Myron, well, some people are going to say that the reason why you're not getting married is because you're not going to find a woman who's not going to be offended by what you're saying.
You know what's amazing?
A lot of girls actually, you know, privately agree with me a lot and say, yeah, no, everything they're saying is 100%.
And they agree because a lot of women respect guys that can just say it like it is, right?
They want a guy that isn't afraid of what they're going to say, can tell them that this is what it is.
As much as women sit there and say they want an equal, they really don't, man.
They want a guy that's superior to them that could look at them and be like, yeah, be quiet.
We're going to do this.
Oh, my God, that's so hot.
He's just telling me what to do.
Because it's such a foreign concept now of men just standing up to women.
Like so many guys are so scared to tell a woman to shut up because they want to get laid so bad.
Like, oh, my God, I can't say anything that she's not going to like because then I will get laid.
But it's like, if you could just simply tell a girl, like, you're dumb.
We're not doing that.
We're going to do this.
Like, so many girls would respect you and find that attractive because so few guys can do it.
Right.
Now, I know there's a bunch of women probably in the chat right now that are mad.
This guy's a misogynist.
Shut up, bitch.
You're fucking, you love guys like me that could tell you to go in the kitchen and make a sandwich.
Women want guys that tell them to go back in the kitchen.
You know what?
For all you guys that are watching the stream right now, it's okay.
I got y'all.
If you guys are watching this with a woman, hey, go get him a sandwich.
Now, if she doesn't get up and get you a sandwich right now, guys, you might need to rethink what you're doing.
All right.
So some people are going to get wildly offended.
And I would say, first of all, if you can't hear what someone says and you don't like, and you're going to get offended, you're a bit of a baby.
I'm looking at you, Myron.
I'm saying, like, this would lead to a divorce in my family, not because I'm a beta male, but because, you know, first of all, maybe it's a different time where, and maybe I'm just fortunate that I don't actually disagree with my wife or we don't disagree on meaningful things.
So like we don't have to have these critical arguments on issues that would otherwise drive a wedge in people's marriages.
Like when we moved to Florida, we both agreed.
It might have taken some persuasion on my part, but not this type of force or psychological force.
When the kid came out of school, we both agreed.
And so like we're in Sympatico.
But some people say, like, if I told my wife to go make me a sandwich, I'd get fucking divorced.
And some people are going to say that's why people do get divorced is because some of the men, it's not a question of being dominant and the man who could defend them, but being verbally abusive and psychologically abusive.
But I know that maybe most of what you're saying is sort of tongue-in-cheek.
And also you got to have a bit of a spicy delivery to.
Yeah, the reality is, right?
There's a reason why women want a guy who's stronger than them, taller than them, and can tell them certain things.
And there's a reason why they love books like 50 Shades of Gray.
They want that dominant sort of man.
I'm not telling you to be walking in the house all the time and like, hey, come here.
Like, I'm not saying I do that.
But what I am saying is that women are very aroused by and attracted to men that could put them in their place when they get out of place.
Because let's be honest here, there's plenty of times where women will sit there and try to test you and, you know, try to disrespect you and see how you respond.
Sometimes you just got to be able to tell her, shut up.
Okay.
I'm watching the game.
Shut the fuck up.
Go make a sandwich and be quiet.
And she might like pout like, that's so mean.
But deep down, she's like, damn, like that, that is hot.
This guy could tell me what it is.
And a big part of the being a man is being able to identify when you need to do that, right?
Like it's obviously you can't do it every day.
You can't be Sean Connery, but at the same time, you also can't be a wimp where you're scared to do it.
You need to be able to wield that authority and be able to do it when you need to.
Now, of course, there's going to be women in the chat that are going to get mad and be like, that's not true, blah, blah, blah.
Because these are unflattering realities about female nature because, you know, they've been fighting for decades to be treated as equals.
So you get this guy on the podcast that comes in and tells you like, yeah, they're actually aroused by you telling them to shut the hell up.
They're not going to like that, right?
But the truth is, if you're the right guy, they will like it.
But that might be good.
And I'm putting it in quotes.
That might be good advice for having sex and short-term relationship, short-term dating, but not for a marriage.
Because I view marriage more like a corporation and you're working with the vice president type thing, although who's the president?
I view it as a corporation in terms of the relationship.
That might be good advice for dating, but not good advice for marriage.
But time will tell and success leaves clues.
But, Myron, if people are offended by this, let's get to the one that's really going to piss them off.
Sure.
Israel and the Jews.
Okay.
Sure.
Let's do it.
No, I say tongue in cheek.
You got in trouble recently for, I think I gave you a bit of a hard time.
And I'll explain it.
But for people say at some point, the people who take a trajectory like you in terms of what you talk about on the internet, eventually you find yourself in the rabbit hole of the Jews are behind everything.
Question everything, even, you know, I say basic historical facts.
Did you get into the most trouble for some of the things you said, not questioning the Holocaust, but rather questioning certain elements of the history of the Holocaust?
How much flack did that get you into?
And did that have anything to do with whether or not you were at risk in terms of going to England for social media posts?
Yeah.
So my thing is, look, I think we've been lied to about a lot of things, right?
Not just World War II.
We've been lied to about 9-11.
We've been lied to about the Iraq war.
We've been lied to about the conflicts in the Middle East in general.
We've been lied to about the USS Liberty blind.
Hell, we've been lied to even about October 7th in many regards, right?
And that's in modern day society.
So in many wars, right?
So I think the important thing here, the bottom line is I think people need to be able to look at what's going on and be able to question things in a healthy manner.
Obviously, you don't want to get into the whole, you know, conspiracy theory rabbit hole and go deep down in there and just, you know, become an autist.
But I think people need to be able to critically think and look at everything with another set of fresh eyes and be able to assess what we've been told the truth about and what we've been lied about.
Because I mean, there is an absolute trend here where, you know, many big historical events we've been lied to about.
That's the, and full disclosure, people can accuse me of whatever.
I've had this discussion with people where, you know, there's the term Holocaust denial has taken on such a broad meaning now where people come and say, well, you know, let's talk about the numbers, talk about the extent.
And that's Holocaust denialism.
And it's illegal in certain countries.
And I've always said, like, you need people to be able to discuss this because if you don't allow them to, on the one hand, it will legitimize their views in their mind.
And it'll actually legitimize the conspiracy theories in the eyes of others.
The question becomes worse.
Censorship never works, right?
And I think this is what Israel is like kind of losing a lot of support here where they're trying to censor people with these anti-Semitism laws.
And all they're doing is making people think, oh, well, they're hiding something or they're lying.
Like censorship simply doesn't work.
I mean, the Daily Wire tried it with Candace Owens.
It's hurt them significantly.
Even to the point where Brett Cooper, when she left, they thought it was because of censorship, when in reality, it wasn't.
But that's how much people hate censorship.
So to censor people and tell them, oh, you can't talk about XYZ, all it does is empowers them to want to talk about it more.
And I think this is something where, you know, they're losing quite a bit of support in the main arena in the information war for trying to censor people from talking about certain things.
Well, no, but the question is, censorship in terms of talking about it is one thing.
The other issue is that there's always going to be an underbelly or a niche.
And people are going to say, like, there's going to be in the markets of the world, there's going to be a market for people who want to make that argument that, oh, you know, the calculation as to how many bodies could have been cremated in the Holocaust.
And you tap into certain niches, and then the question becomes whether or not the discussion is one about free speech or commercial exploitation of the niches that you know will exist.
And when does, I mean, when do you distinguish sincere questioning versus when it descends into potential niche?
Like I don't like the word grifting and I'm not going to use it, but getting into a niche where you know there's going to be people who are going to be interested in hearing it despite the fact that it's either been debunked or that the only use in entertaining it is to entertain that niche.
If that question was clear.
Yeah, no, I think my thing is I think, you know, I'm pretty much a free speech absolutist slash maximalist.
I think all a conversation needs to be entertained.
And even the conversation that might be looked at as like, you know, potentially being grifting, I think it needs to come in and then people should be able to challenge it if they do think that it's grifting.
I think all discussion, you know, as long as it doesn't lead to imminent violence, needs to be had, right?
So these laws that are in place about, you know, the certain event, I call it the cookie monster event when I'm on YouTube.
But like, you know, this discussion in general, I think it needs to be allowed.
And I think people need to be able to question it because whenever you forbid people from questioning things, you create a market for it.
And then you almost like give energy and power to the thing that you're trying to avoid.
So I think all conversations should be able to be had.
And then what so that way people can come in and question and they can go ahead and have a debate?
Because my thing is, I like the arena of ideas where we're able to kind of come in and then go ahead, bring in the people that don't believe the World War II narrative, bring them in and let them talk to the people that believe in the World War II narrative and let them have a debate.
And I love those discussions because then now we're letting them have the discussion and then the people can decide what do they believe in, what do they agree with, because you're letting both parties debate each other and then the people can decide.
It's going to be a very, I don't know if it's politically incorrect.
Your Sudan, parents are Sudanese.
Yeah.
You're black.
The question is this.
I mean, say black is in physically black skin.
Depends on who you're asking.
Some of them don't even have to do that.
Well, that's the question now.
Yeah.
Well, do you have it?
Do you do you view, do you consider yourself to be part of what they refer to as African-American, Black America?
Or do you have a, do you, do you feel that you're, do you consider yourself coming from a different demographic that doesn't necessarily see eye to eye with what they typically refer to as black America?
Yeah.
So me personally, I consider myself black, right?
You know, I grew up, you know, in the United States.
I'm very familiar with black culture.
My skin is black.
When I check the little box, I put black.
But black people, you know, interestingly enough, and it's only this one demographic of idiots called FBAs, foundation black Americans, who basically, for those that are unaware, thank God that you're not aware.
But yeah, basically they're like descendants of slaves.
They look at me and say, you're not one of us because I'm not a descendant of a slave.
And they consider anyone, for that matter, that isn't a descendant of a slave as not black.
If you're Jamaican, if you're Haitian, if you're from anywhere from Africa, Nigeria, whatever, they don't consider you black, which I think is absolutely ludicrous.
But this small demographic of idiots don't consider themselves black.
I consider, don't consider people that aren't FBAs black, but I consider myself black.
I would argue most black people in the United States would consider me black, and they probably consider themselves black regardless of where they're from or whether they're related to a slave or not.
But yeah, it's only that small demographic of people that don't think so.
But I think I am.
I think other individuals would probably identify me as that.
Like literally, I am the definition of African American.
Like my parents are from Sudan.
I was born here.
Like I am African American to the T, quite literally.
No, but I mean like in terms of culturally between Sudanese immigrants who might come to America and have as much cultural collision with black America as you would imagine white America would.
Like do your parents have that experience with what is historically or traditionally regarded as black America?
So like funny enough, like my dad, he doesn't like being called black.
He likes being called African.
And I've noticed this with a lot of people because like being black in America has such a bad connotation with being affiliated with crime and hip-hop and degeneracy.
So like growing up, like my dad never wanted to be called black himself.
He was like, no, I'm African.
I'm not one of them.
And I think a lot of people that, you know, are first generation, their parents might have felt this way, whether they came from the Caribbean or they came from Africa directly.
They felt this way.
But yeah, I mean, you know, let's be honest, like, you know, the black community does push out a lot of degeneracy, single-mother households, drug, drug trafficking, gang violence, violence in general to solve their problems, not being educated, drug use, alcohol.
Like there's a lot of degeneracy.
And like as an adult, I can look back and be like, damn, yeah, this is stuff that isn't necessarily good for the community, but this is something that's pushed by this culture.
So I can see why, now as an adult, I can look back and see why my parents didn't want to be affiliated with it.
Okay.
And then this ties back and goes back to the Jewish question.
The cookie monster is the Holocaust, right?
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
I refer to that whenever I'm on the other side.
The cookie monster.
Whenever I'm on YouTube, I refer to it as the cookie monster event.
I used to have code that we used to call it the My Sharon of Cyrus instead of coronavirus, but I've given up on that.
And the reason why I asked you the question about, you know, like Sudanese versus black America, and then the Holocaust question, where like, where I say, in this, I don't find anything you've ever said that offensive.
Some of it, I'll disagree with it.
And I think some of it's, I'll say, juvenile for lack of a better word or shocking for the sake of being shocking.
Underlying points, you know, there's a discussion to be had there.
Sure.
When it comes to the Holocaust and the number.
And then, you know, I saw the video where like, oh, you know, everyone, do the math.
I saw someone say, do the math, you know.
And I'll say, like, okay, I'll even entertain the question and just say, how many millions?
And I say not exclusively Jews because the whole irony, and I think I mentioned this in my reply to you.
It's not like the Nazis were a little bit better to the blacks, but they weren't good to the blacks.
They weren't good to the gypsies, the gays, the handicaps.
I mean, how many do we agree that the Holocaust happened?
And I don't know that anybody disagrees with that.
And then you say, okay, well, if it wasn't 6 million, do you agree that it was many millions of Jews?
And I don't think anybody's going to disagree with that because the Nazis were kind of kept good records decent enough.
So if you don't think it was six, if it was five, four, I know that that qualifies as Holocaust denialism.
And I'm not sure that I agree with that because like as far as 4 million versus 6 million, that's a genocide.
Getting back to the, you know, the black America versus not.
Yeah.
One of the historic, correct me if I'm wrong, but like one of the historical gripes between the Jewish community of America and the black community is the success that the Jewish community had in recognizing the event, the Holocaust versus a black America, A, you know, not necessarily getting the recognition or the historical recognition for the, for the, for, for slavery, but also the reparations for slavery where, you know, Jews got something back from Germany and German companies.
And the, like, your dad's from Sudan.
Is there any of that harboring that resentment for reparations?
I say success in quotes.
It's not, well, no, for the, call it the successful acknowledgement of the Holocaust in particular.
Like that, that's where I think a lot of the resentment of the black community comes in terms of the Jews were successful at getting, you know, turning it into Hollywood Oscar winner movies, although there's been a bunch of slavery movies that have been very, very widely recognized as well.
But that there has been a successful campaign to single out the genocide that was the Holocaust and not say the Armenian genocide, not say the Holodomor.
I always get a Hodomor.
Yeah.
So did your folks or did you have any of that resentment if it even existed?
I might be presuming it existed.
No, not at all.
Why were the dad grew up, like he told me, like he never ever used any of the injustices against like African Americans in the United States ever to justify any of his positions?
He always told me that his thing was he always used to yell at me and say, I brought you United States.
It's the best country in the world.
More opportunity here than ever before.
I would be a doctor or a lawyer if I was raised here.
You better be somebody, something.
And then he smacked me if I was being a mess up.
So that's how my dad raised.
He never ever used like the history of the United States to try to justify, you know, grievances.
He always said, I brought you here, which is the best country in the world.
You better be a somebody.
That's how he always framed it to me.
All right.
And have the mindset.
The flip side to that question is, you talk about the cookie bonds of the Holocaust.
Yeah.
And people can get mad at you.
You also, and I know it, you deal with the black community just as bluntly in terms of statistical overrepresentation.
Does the black community ever look at you and say, well, you're the son of Sudanese.
You're not part of the American Black experience.
And so what you're saying about us, we take offense to because there's historical reasons or you're picking on a small demographic to come to broader sweeping generalizations of black America at large.
Yeah, no, that's 100% the reason they come at me.
They say they always say, well, you're not one of us, so therefore you can't comment.
That's their argument 99% of the time.
But what I tell them is actually, I tell them, like, not only have I dealt with a lot of the obstacles that you guys cry about, whether it's poverty or being labeled or being racist, getting stereotypes thrown at them, because people used to follow me around the store and think that I was a criminal as well.
Also, I had to deal with the whole after 9-11, I had to deal with the whole, I hate the term Islamophobia, but people.
There was distinct, yeah, there was distinct stereotyping after 9-11.
It went from the Russians being bad in every movie to Middle Easterners.
Exactly.
So I, you know, and I hate to even use this, like whether like, but yeah, I got it on both ends.
I got it from the being black and I also got it from being Muslim.
So like I can sit here and put myself in a victim box too, but I refuse to do that.
So when they say that and say, oh, you don't even, you can't even comment on this because you're not one of us.
I'm like, well, I've dealt with a lot of stuff that you guys have, but that doesn't even matter because my thing is, I don't think you have to be a part of a group to be able to comment on said group.
If you're able to identify, you know, patterns or you're able to see things, the truth is the truth regardless of who reports it, right?
So I think this whole concept of you need to be a part of said group to be able to criticize group as well.
But the only reason the FBA has used that is because it insulates them from valid criticism saying, well, you're not one of us, you can't comment.
And that's what a lot of these low IQ individuals use to kind of curb criticism from themselves.
Myron, what is the post that you've taken the most flack from?
Man, so I get a lot because I'm critical of, you know, obviously I'm very critical of Zionism and Jewish power.
I'm very critical of the black community.
I'm very critical of, I got a lot of slack actually for the H-1B Visa stuff.
Talked about bringing in Indians to the United States to work these H-1B visa jobs.
Elon Musk didn't like that.
So, yeah, man, I get it from all angles.
I've been critical of Islam even as well, even though I grew up in a Muslim household.
I said it a bunch of times where I don't think Sharia law is compatible with a first world democracy where freedom of speech is a paramount principle.
Because unfortunately, Sharia law doesn't allow you to engage really in freedom of speech.
You look at any of these, even the wealthy Arab countries, the monarchies and the dictatorships.
If you criticize the government, you're getting killed.
You're going to get Khashoggi in an embassy somewhere.
So, you know, I am able to be critical, even if it doesn't necessarily benefit me.
I've even insulted the Arab world and the Muslim world.
Well, they'll think of it as insult, but I've even criticized many of their fault points and they don't like it.
Because my thing is, I will say something, even if it doesn't benefit me, or attacks the group that I'm aligned with, because I think the truth is more important than how I feel.
So there's many things I'm critical for.
But yeah, people are obviously most aware of how I'm critical of the black community, critical of Israel quite a bit.
But, you know, some other things that have gotten me in trouble.
Definitely, the H-1B visa got me in a lot of trouble on Twitter, especially.
Which end were you on?
You were on no more Indian immigrants to fill the visas, or you should allow the immigrants in?
No more Indians to fill the visas.
Because you were disagreeing with Elon, who said that we, well, he attenuated his position over that debate.
Him and Vivek agreed with the H-1B visas.
I was anti-H-1B visa because there's a multitude of reasons why.
But like, you know, I'm not for foreign labor and I'm also not for a foreign group of people coming in that have completely different cultural values to us coming here in swarms and not acclimating.
Because the reality is, a lot of these people that come from these countries like India, et cetera, they don't assimilate.
They simply don't.
Now, that's an uncomfortable truth that no one wants to hear, but they don't want to assimilate a lot of the times.
They want to keep their Hindu God.
They want to keep their cultural culture and stuff like that, which is cool, but that comes at the cost of infiltrating our culture.
And I look at places like Toronto.
I look at places like Western Europe where they've allowed this mass immigration and then these places have basically turned into shells of their former selves.
Like you go to London now, London is filled with Muslims everywhere.
And this is me as a Muslim guy, like this doesn't feel like I'm in England.
It doesn't feel like I'm in London.
I just see a bunch of North African immigrants everywhere and I'm worried about getting stabbed.
Toronto now is basically turned into India, you know?
So that depression is problematic.
You know, I was just saying, like, I went to Toronto recently.
I say, call it what you want.
It felt like going into Bangladesh in the airport.
And literally, like, the lineup for the immigration visa checkpoint was just Bangladeshians.
But now, this is the problem, though, or the problem.
This is the question.
Your dad comes in, you're a Muslim family.
What is the path?
What is the path for Islamic or Muslim assimilation?
It has such a negative connotation, but what is your ideal in terms of assimilation in Western society for anyone in particular, but from your Muslim experience?
So I think, you know, especially these Western countries where there's United States, Canada, whatever, I think they need to stay white majority Christian countries the way they were founded by Protestant white men because that's the way the country was founded.
And I do think that that's the best way for the country to continue having the rights and privileges and the structure that it had in the first place, because what ends up happening when you import too many immigrants is they bring their way of thinking.
And winds up happening as the culture slowly starts to change.
And let's just be honest here.
Muslim countries don't value free speech.
They just don't.
And there's a bunch of cultural and religious reasons for that.
But if we want democracies, if we want freedom of speech to be paramount, we can't let them be the dominant force in this.
And again, I'm going to get ran out of the flagpole for saying this, but I'm calling it like it is.
I think the countries need to stay majority what they were founded by in order to preserve those values.
Right.
And I think disintegrating the way the country was founded for economic gain through H-1B visas or whatever is not worth the trade-off.
In our encryptus in our locals where he says, show us Myron, Rabbi Myron, but over on Rumble.
May I ask who Rabbi Myron Gainesteem is?
Oh, I have like a hat that I put on every time I go into certain things.
Well, let me ask you this.
You mentioned Zionism.
And I might be one of the very few people also who does not equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism.
But I had on Naddy Taub last week, and I asked him to define Zionism, and I think he gave a decent definition.
What's your definition of Zionism?
Zionism, man, I would say to be very, very clear about this, because I do think that, you know, given the fact that the Jewish people have been persecuted for a very long time, it makes sense that they would need their own homeland.
But when I'm talking about Zionism, I'm talking about specifically the state of Israel, where it's located, and the preservation of Israel, particularly when it comes to what used to be British mandate mandatory about Palestine.
That's what I'm referring to when I say Zionism.
So that's the existence of the state of Israel.
So critical of Zionism.
And I don't really care to get into it because I don't even, it's not that I'm going to think less of you if you don't think Israel has the right to, well, if you don't think Israel has the right to exist where it exists or the Palestinians have the first claim to the land when you're critical of Zionism.
So in that sense, what?
Critical of Israel's right to exist where it is under the modalities that it exists, under the conditions that it exists.
Yeah, precisely.
You know, their right to exist over another groups of people, another group of people's right to exist that were there before.
So, you know, I'm completely sensitive to the fact that, you know, they've been persecuted, kicked out of a lot of countries, had issues and haven't had a homeland.
That's where people are very aware of that.
But I think them having a homeland at the expense of another group of people is not acceptable.
I think they should have a homeland, but at displacing another group of people, I think that's problematic.
Yeah, and then I said, I'm going to say I'm not interested in because I know what the responses are going to be.
And then I'll ask you the question, how far back do you go in terms of who was displaced from the land of Israel?
And then you'll say 200 years and someone will say 2,000 years.
And that's why the Jews get to have it back.
And this is where like, it's just a religious debate and then it becomes a biblical thing.
And I know exactly what you mean.
Like, it's like almost you go down this hole that no one's ever going to be satisfied with this with it.
So no, I completely understand why you might not want to get into that.
And that's totally cool.
And people ask me, it's like, well, you know, are you a Zionist or are you pro-Israel?
I'm like, first of all, I can easily evade the answer because Israel exists, whether I like it or not, or whether you like it or not.
And I'm not there to say Israel should not exist.
Like, am I anti-Canadian?
Canada exists.
A lot of natives would say Canada shouldn't exist where it is because it displaced a lot of natives just a couple hundred years ago, to which I'll say, well, Canada's there, and I'm not advocating for the destruction of Canada.
And therefore, I respect the country of Canada's right to exist.
Now, what I will say is this, because I agree with you on that, that like at this point, like, bro, we got to deal.
Israel ain't going nowhere, right?
I've said this a million times too, as well for the fanatical, you know, pro-Palestinian people.
I tell them, look, Israel's not going anywhere.
We need to figure out a two-state solution.
Okay.
That's the only way that we're going to fix this because Israel ain't going nowhere.
Obviously, the Palestinians aren't going to go anywhere.
They're trying to get them to go somewhere, right?
As we saw with the organizers to take over Gaza, whatever.
But I think the only way that Israel is going to be able to live in peace in the Middle East without constantly having to worry about being attacked is they're going to need to come with a two-state solution.
Now, we can make the argument about, you know, who's been preventing this, whether it's Nanyar or whatever.
But I think at this point, the only way to move forward is we need to come up with a two-state solution.
Now, that's where I think the conversation needs to go.
This whole of, you know, who has historical right to the land, whatever, that's irrelevant now at this point, because we are where we are.
So I do think the next path forward is a two-state.
Yeah, well, and that's where I was also.
But then the question becomes two-state under what modalities?
And some people say two-state with the right of return, which is effectively a one-state.
Others say a two-state.
And then two-state with one state that refuses to recognize the right to exist of the other.
Eventually we'll get there.
I mean, the Irish, the IRA or the northern Southern Island, they resolved their differences after enough people got killed, but it looks like we're not yet there in the Middle East.
Myron, if I may see if I have any questions in the chat for you, there's well, if I let me read this, it's not a sponsor, but Bill Tong, if you want to talk about healthy foods and healthy meat, Bill Tong has his own channel.
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And Guido 240 says, Myron, you're wrong.
Sure.
Women were first class and now they're second class.
And now second class.
They were held on high and taken care of.
And they had it before making suffrage.
This is, well, the religious argument to this is that it's not sexist to say that the men and the women have separate roles.
Some people consider it antiquated.
And if you consider it antiquated, then go live out your wildest modern dreams and see how that works out for you.
We can certainly see the way it's playing out to some extent in modern American society, but then you compare it to other countries and then you'll never find an ideal or you'll find some better ideals than others.
Myron, did I forget to ask you anything that I wanted to?
This has been the funny thing, I think the chat's going to cut.
I don't think anybody really hates you, but I like this discussion because I know what the media portrays you as.
And they, you know, take, they'll take a few clips from here and say you're a total misogynist, anti-Semitic, whatever.
You're a reasonably thoughtful, thought-out guy.
And I don't think many people are going to think ill of you after having watched a full two hours.
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, man.
Yeah.
Like, again, you know, all my worldviews, right?
whether it's, you know, people say my views on, you know, Israel or Jewish people or, you know, or Islam or immigration, whatever, you know, I'm able to always explain how I came to that conclusion.
Now, people might not necessarily like it, but what I've realized is when I'm able to, you know, get the opportunity to explain why I have the worldviews that I have, you know, people kind of say, okay, you know what?
I see how you came to that conclusion.
I might not agree with it, but I can see how you came to that conclusion.
So, you know, it is what it is.
I understand that sometimes the way I put my ideas out might be crass or rude and people might not like the delivery.
It's deliberate.
You know, it's deliberately provocative and some people might call it immature or whatever.
But it's, first of all, if people don't like it, they can, you know, they can listen to someone with a British accent say it in a much more polite manner and cloak and cloak the verbiage and whatever.
Exactly.
Whatever is more palatable.
Myron, so are you going to stay live on your channel afterwards or are you going to end this at the same time?
Yeah, I'll probably, yeah, I'll probably still stay live.
I'll cover some news and stuff like that.
You know, we'll probably go until I think like 8 p.m. when we do Fresh and Fit.
But yeah, I'll go on a little bit longer.
Okay.
Encryptus, this guy that you're looking at right now is the Viva Fry equivalent of the Jamie, Rogan Jamie.
Encryptus, what's up?
You do have some other tip questions.
A couple of people in the chat wanted me to remind you.
And I just have to say this was freaking entertaining as hell.
The chats were off the chains.
You've got about.
Yeah, I'm not going to hop on whatever.
20% streaming hate.
Yeah, no, we could talk about, you know, like I said, I'm still chilling.
So any questions you guys have on anything, if you guys want to expound more on whatever you guys want, I know that we kind of went surface level and a lot of the stuff weren't able to go deep.
But whatever you guys want to talk about, I was happy.
I think we went deep on, we were good on some of this.
Let me ask this one over on locals.
Boopsy says, ask him, having many women makes you judge and compare each woman.
That's my argument against that level of promiscuity environment because once you've done that, it becomes very, you've led a very exciting life.
It becomes very difficult to settle down with.
Well, I would argue, I would push back on that.
It actually makes you appreciate girls that are good more, right?
So when you deal with, so what I've realized with men is when you, when you've dealt with a lot of women, right, that are annoying, because a lot of women are annoying and stupid and not really interesting, when you do find one that is, you end up, you end up, you know, we tend to appreciate that more because men don't get the same level of options and, you know, volume when it comes to dealing with the opposite gender that women do.
So when men are in a position where we're getting, you know, attention from women or where we're getting treated well, we tend to appreciate that far more.
This is why being a nice guy as a man doesn't work, but being a nice guy as a woman absolutely does work.
And Encrypt says there are women in the chat who do agree with him as well as women who do not agree with him.
All in all, show and the chats are very entertaining.
And then says that's from Pants on the bottom.
It says with Viva, W Viva, W Myron, W interview, which I think means win.
Let me just go see.
I'm going to take it out just so I can get.
Yeah, the women in Donor Girl may tend to be fat and ugly a lot of the times.
So it's all good.
The idea, it is amazing that I was talking to some younger kids, like, where do you meet people these days?
And I am, I'm old school dog run, but you go to the dog run now and people are on their freaking phones and nobody's making any human to human interaction, you know, interactions.
Censorship versus truth.
Grift thrives in lack of knowledge.
And there's Europa the last battle.
There's a video there.
Is the chat room going crazy?
My iPhone and even my PC joining chat room and never getting there.
I don't know if it was going that crazy.
Okay, here, Rich 987 says 1360.
When it comes to Afro-Americans, I'm not going to read that word.
That'll get me canceled.
You and Barnes are deranged as Ben Shapiro and Glenn Greenwald.
I don't even know what that means.
I know the 1350 is the idea that 13% of the population accounts for 50% of the violent crime murders.
Oh, it's even less.
It's like, because blacks make up about 15% of the U.S. population, about half of that, so 7% to 8% is men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they make up about 15%.
And the age bracket.
So it's like it's probably maybe 1 to 2%.
But again, the question is, is the purpose of that to say there's something genetic within black America, or is it because they get convicted more because it's a racist institution, or they're prone to it because of poverty and historical inequalities?
But the bottom line is.
I think it's a multitude of things.
It's obviously the culture.
It's the, you know, what they value versus what they don't value, the fatherless households, that's a big one.
And then this is the one that's going to get me in trouble, but IQ as well.
Blacks in general have lower IQs than other than other groups of people.
Asians are number one.
Whites are second.
Hispanics are third.
And then blacks are fourth.
And people get mad when I say that.
Yeah, but they'll get mad at you and they say, well, the IQ test, I mean, if you put patterns and whoever the given, who gives a shit about the IQ test, they're going to say that that is a culturally irrelevant and patriarchal or white patriarchal test in the first place.
I'm not convinced, you know, the ability to predict patterns or detect patterns, which is what much of the IQ test is.
But, you know, like who composed whatever piece is purely cultural.
But there was, there was, oh, I forget.
I just lost my test.
And there's been a bunch of, and there's been a bunch of meta-analysis that have like proved this.
As much as they try to say, like, oh, this is like pseudo-science.
It's not true.
No, it's absolutely true.
And they've been suppressing it for a very long time.
But IQ is tied to race.
Now, does this mean that anyone that's black has low IQ?
Of course not.
But what we're saying, what I'm saying is that when, in general, when races are tested, certain races tend to score lower than others.
And this is just what it is.
Now, you know, sorry, that's just how it goes.
And I remember what the comment was that I was looking at in Rumble.
It said Jews per capita, which is where I wanted to go with this.
Some people say, well, good, IQ doesn't necessarily translate into criminality.
It doesn't necessarily translate into being a good person.
And then the flip side is, well, the bottom line is you're talking about statistical overrepresentation.
You said something earlier about Jewish dominance or Jewish influence.
I forget what it was.
It was talking about Zionism, Israel, and Jewish power.
Sorry, that's what I think it was.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Elaborate if we can all get ourselves into a lot more trouble today.
Yeah, sure.
Well, what that means is basically the overrepresentation and the influence and certain what I call trigger points in society that allow for basically the ability to preserve Israel, right?
And preserve Israel utilizing this network of different individuals in different places, different industries of different positions of power for the self-preservation of Israel.
I'll give you an example.
So Donald Trump, right?
Donald Trump was able to get into office.
A lot of people don't want to admit this, but let's be honest.
He was able to get into office because of the Zionist lobby, the Zionist lobby of someone like Amira Maidelson, who gave him $100 million, who obviously her husband, Sheldon Adelson, made a bunch of money as a casino tycoon.
Then someone like Bill Ackman, who made his money in a whole other different endeavor, who is a lifelong Democrat who came in and supported him.
And then other individuals as well that are Zionists that, you know, all basically got together and said, you know what?
We need the president's going to be more, you know, more pro-Israel.
Let's make sure that we get him in, regardless of our political affiliation before, because right now what matters is getting Trump in to preserve Israel.
So what I mean by this is utilizing that influence to push and get someone into office for their own means.
And they're able to do this by having positions of power, influence, obviously money.
And that's basically why Trump is in power right now and why he's president.
This is what, because he understood that being extremely pro-Israel was going to be critical to him getting back into office.
That's kind of, yeah, I'm trying to think of not how to push back, but just to even steelman the rebuttal to that.
The numbers are relatively accurate.
There was 100 million through whatever that pack was that Adelson gave to.
The question is going to be being pro-Israel versus being anti-Israel.
I'm just trying to think of how to ask the question, which is going to be.
And is it?
So the argument is that there's rich Jews who are Zionist or who are pro-Israel that you think have the determinate impact on the outcome of the election.
And then others are going to say, well, okay, the 100 million, whatever, but there's 77 million people who voted for Trump.
On the one hand, either they want that as well, or on the other hand, the 77 million who are not Zionists, certainly some of the big ones are, wanted Trump anyhow.
So the question is then, what degree is the being pro-Israel related to his election if it actually got 77 million Americans to vote for him who seemingly osposed that policy?
If the people didn't like it, he wouldn't be elected.
No, sure, sure, sure.
But I do think it's very important to understand that that money, right, that was given to him, that was donated to him, was used to run the ads, was used to run these rallies, was used to be able to create this enormous social media platform that he was able to do running these ads, et cetera, because running a campaign is very expensive.
And I do think that it's also important to note that, you know, the fact that this crosses party lines, right?
Like whether you have someone, I'll give you an example.
You got someone like Ajon the Greenblatt who's a leftist, and then you got someone like Aben Shapiro who's a conservative.
When it comes to Israel, they agree, right?
And they both understood, look, Trump is going to be the better party for Israel.
Let's get him in, right?
Bill Ackman, et cetera.
So they will go ahead and change their voting philosophy or even their party lines depending on who is going to be more beneficial to Israel.
So that's just one example.
There's other examples as well.
But I do think that, you know, to not under to not acknowledge that they have an enormous amount of influence and power in certain regards.
I mean, hell, I mean, the fact that, you know, APAC is able to exist to this day with no fair registration compared to other lobby organizations is wild, right?
Like Thomas Massey went on the Tucker Carlson podcast and literally said, yeah, everybody has an AIPAC guy.
I'm the only one that doesn't have one.
And then the fact that he doesn't have the support that these other ones have, they tried to primary him.
So I do think that there's an enormous amount of power there where if you want to be a politician in the United States, you must bow down to the Israel lobby.
Otherwise, you're not going to get elected or your ability to get elected is going to be significantly hindered.
I do think that that's very important to note.
Someone in the chat asked who were the biggest donors.
And a quick to Trump's campaign and a quick grok overview is Timothy Mellon, who I don't know who that is, 150 million to make America great.
Miriam Adelson, 100 million.
Elon Musk, 118 million.
Richard Wheeline, who I don't know who that is, 84.1 million.
Isaac and Laura.
I'm just trying to see who looks like they have Jewish names.
Because some people are going to say, well, look, you got Elon Musk who's donating massive amounts.
But he's assuming Timothy Mellon.
Some of them might not be able to do that.
But then I see where you're going.
Yeah.
And I see where you're going to go with that as well.
And then the question's going to be the resentment.
The resentment seems to be that it's, I know your answer is going to be, it's not because it's Israel.
It's just because it's another country that we are seemingly that election is loyalty to which is determinate of the outcome of elections.
Yes.
And it could be, it could be Madagascar.
It would be just as offensive.
Others are going to retort and say, yes, Jews, you can't disagree with the influence because on the one hand, some people will get offended at you and say you're an anti-Semite for noticing the Jewish influence.
Flip side, how many times the Jewish community is very proud of the fact that, what is it, like 30% of Nobel laureates are Jewish or half Jewish or Jewish descent.
Yeah, I mean, and my thing is, you know, they'll gladly take credit when it's positive, right?
Like, for example, I've seen it many times where it's like, hey, you know, Jews led the civil rights movement.
They led the, you know, the gay rights movement, right?
They'll say that.
Like, but if you say anything negative, well, yeah, well, they also, you know, are involved in pornography.
Oh, well, that's fucked up.
You know, so my thing is I just kind of call a spade a spade.
And, you know, it depends on the way that you say it.
And then they'll go ahead and call you an anti-Semite.
But my thing is, I'm against all foreign aid.
I was against giving aid to Ukraine years ago when the war first started.
And then they were calling me, you know, a Russia shill for saying that.
But my thing is, I'm a very, I'm a hardcore American nationalist.
That's why a lot of the opinions I give might not necessarily be accepted by many when I say things like, yeah, we need to limit immigration.
We need to have an immigration moratorium.
I don't want the United States to be a Muslim majority country because I understand what comes with that.
Despite the fact that I grew up in a Muslim household, I'm able to take myself out of the situation and understand what's best for the United States, regardless of whether it benefits me personally or not.
And I think that's very difficult for a lot of people to say or admit.
But I'm critical of everything.
So yeah, I mean, when it comes to the Israeli conflict in Gaza, I think this is just another example of us giving foreign aid.
And quite frankly, my biggest issue with a lot of the problems that's going on with Gaza is it makes us look bad on the world stage, giving this aid to Israel and they're conducting this military campaign and killing a bunch of innocent people because we lose influence in the process and it makes us look horrible internationally as well.
Well, flip side, they've also been giving, ironically enough, giving funds to the to Hamas as well, directly or indirectly.
So it's funny that it's the meme.
The bombs are going off on both sides.
And like my tax dollars, somehow also my tax dollars.
And the funny thing is, you know, when you notice the statistical overrepresentation, when it's a bad thing, people get offended.
When it's a good thing, they take pride.
The funniest thing is when you notice it on the same thing, like it's one thing, okay, a statistical overrepresentation of Jews in porn.
Yes, and there's a historical reason for that.
But the best is when you say, like, all right, well, there's an influence in science or the arts or media, but don't dare say the Jews control the media because they don't control it.
There's just statistical overrepresentation in it, for which we're proud when we want to take credit for it, but which becomes anti-Semitic if it's a source of criticism because of the message being conveyed.
So it's one thing, you know, one screen, two films, and that's the best example.
No, and this is why I can't really disagree with you.
And there is statistical overrepresentation for which the community is proud, but then you have to take the responsibility that comes with that statistical overrepresentation.
And when you see the first impeachment and the disproportionate number of players who you might make an association with, you can't blame someone for coming to that conclusion and noticing it.
Flip side, you look at the other side and say, well, there's enough overrepresentation as well there fighting the impeachment.
And then you get some people saying, well, why are there just so many, in any event, in a Christian society like America, that you have 1.6% of the population that has this influence.
And then it leads into all the other questions about IQ, culture, heritage, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that you're willing to have the conversation, Viva, because a lot of them would say, I'm not even going to entertain this.
This is an anti-Semitic conversation.
The fact that you're even willing to have the conversation, I think, speaks volumes.
And I know, you know, yourself, you're ethnically Jewish, but you're willing to have these talks.
And, you know, that's that, I think that's very important that we can have these discussions and be critical of our own people.
Like I have been with Muslims and you have been with Jewish people or Zionists, whatever it may be.
Though I know I don't think that's a good question.
I was critical of Israel's response to October.
I mean, I'm critical where I think it's warranted.
And I hate the tribalist mentality.
They're like, Viva, if Israel ceases to exist, so will you as a Jew.
Okay, fine.
But, you know, and I say the longer term existence means being critical, if only out of love, you know, even assume that.
Critical could be either because you want to destroy or because you want to build up.
What I'm critical of Pierre Poilievre, some people say it's because I hate him.
Otherwise, I say because I expect more from him.
But no, I had on a guy, Gaddy Taub, last week, and he's a proud Zionist who does not any longer believe in a two-state solution.
And I can understand his argument.
But when I asked him the questions, how did October 7 happen at the scale it did for the duration it did?
And the answer was, I don't have a good answer for that.
That's in and of itself, you know, kind of not a good answer when you're relying on the same people who were at the helm of that catastrophe to determine the proper response to that catastrophe.
Yeah, I think Netanyahu let it happen.
I think the conspiracy theory, I think Netanyahu let it happen, man, honestly.
So I asked him about that because there's two, there's two, depending on your political leanings in Israel, there's two conspiracy theories to that.
The left would say Netanyahu let it happen so that he could justify expanding or you know, some I'll say, you know, the criticals of Israel or the anti-Semites would say Netanyahu let it happen on purpose to justify expansion.
When I asked this to Gaddi Taub, he said, there's some people who think that the left allowed it to happen so they could blame it on Netanyahu because I was explaining like there are people who hate Netanyahu in Israel as much as libs hate Trump here.
And so I said, well, so then how do you know they didn't let the intelligence lapse?
And then, you know, his argument is for both sides.
Do you think anybody would let a thousand plus people get slaughtered in the most horrendous manner possible?
And I mean, if you're thinking about humans as normal humans, that would be your response.
But there's a bunch of libs out here that I would have no doubt would love to see something terrible like that happen to Republicans and Trump supporters, et cetera.
Yeah.
And I would say too, just so that.
I'm going to actually add to that.
I was going to say one more thing.
I just want to get my red to take on number seven, building number seven and killing people.
Sure.
I'll talk about building seven here in a second with 9-11.
So real quick, when it comes to October 7th, when it hit me that something was wrong, so the day after October 7th happened, a lot of people don't know this because they buried this story.
Egyptian intelligence came out immediately and said, we warned the Israelis.
We told them that Hamas was planning this attack.
We had seen them on our intelligence services had seen them planning this attack and staging it.
We told them.
Now, the reason why that's important is because Egypt has an agreement with the United States where our aid for Egypt, because it's a very poor country, they have a lot of debt, our aid for Egypt is contingent upon them playing nice with Israel, Jordan as well.
Jordan and Egypt are allies to Israel because we give them quite a bit of money to play nice with them.
So when the Egyptians came out and said, hey, look, we told them about this.
We warned them about this.
That told me right then and there.
I was like, oh, wow, they want to continue to get their aid.
And they did warn the Israelis because they know that their aid is contingent upon this.
So that's when I started to question like, okay, something's going on here.
How the Israelis who have the most advanced border, like that, that area is one of the most secured areas in the world.
They have an enormous amount of technology.
How did they let these guys with paragliders and rudimentary World War II weapons like get through?
I actually asked that to Gaddy as well.
First of all, I remember that story about Egypt warning them.
And I remember I tweeted up at the time.
I could go back and get my tweets, but one of the theories was that they didn't actually warn them.
This was Egypt, again, trying to make Netanyahu look bad as though he didn't heed to the warning.
And when I asked this historian, how did it happen?
He said they became too reliant on technology.
And I'm like, that's, that's, I mean, okay, fine.
All you're explaining to me is like grotesque criminal negligence to let this happen to have allowed this to happen under your watch in the first place.
But how does it explain the amount of hours that it took for the military to respond to some of these villages?
Israel's six hours across by drive, let alone jets and tanks and whatever.
And again, no good response.
And so it's either the most catastrophic criminal negligence imaginable, in which case I wouldn't empower that catastrophically, critically negligent machine to wage the proper response or something far more nefarious.
And after everything we've lived through, yeah, I mean, you could have very evil people out there who would who, you know, enough said on that.
Building seven, Myron.
What have you noticed?
Yeah, so I did an episode.
Building seven officers blown up.
Sure, sure.
So everything went 9-11 as a line.
This comes back to like the whole, you know, where I question every narrative, whether it's World War II, we were discussing earlier, the cookie monster event, 9-11, U.S.S. Liberty, all this stuff.
So when it comes to 9-11, right?
I did a whole podcast on this with a guy named Ryan Dawson, really smart, one of the best 9-11 researchers.
But long story short, I also brought Richard Gage on my show to talk about this.
Building 7 was a controlled demolition.
No if, ands, or buts about it.
3,000 plus engineers agree.
A plane did not hit Building 7, but yet it went down perfectly in a symmetrical fashion.
Not only was it a controlled demolition, it was a control demolition to the degree where whoever put the bombs in there did it at a perfect level.
Textbook control demolition.
So, you know, which leads to more questions with 9-11, like, how the hell is it that, you know, these random hijackers were able to hijack these planes, crash them into these buildings, and then the third building that goes down goes down in a perfect fashion alongside the Twin Towers, which also went down in a controlled demolition fashion.
And there's a bunch of reasons for this.
I mean, I can go in so many different ways, but I'll just answer it, control demolition 100%.
Look, I'll be called crazy because everyone's excuse for the two, the two, the Twin Towers was jet fuel planes.
And okay, fine.
What's Building 7 then?
That it was burning and the fire, whatever they called them, the water sprinklers were not working and that melted the foundation.
There has never been a skyscraper, a metal structure, a steel frame skyscraper that has ever fallen, collapsed as a result of a fire, except 9-11.
The excuse being, well, planes never flew into them.
Neither did that happen with building number seven.
And what was in building number seven?
There was very important information being stored in that building.
Government agencies were there.
You know, there were definitely government agencies there.
I know that one for a fact.
I think some private.
The other thing that's also very important for people to understand, again, not to get into a Jewish conspiracy, but I do think it's important worth noting.
The person that purchased the World Trade Center was a guy named Larry Silverstein.
Now, anyone that's familiar with commercial real estate in the United States, to get a loan for commercial real estate, you need to be able to demonstrate that the property is profitable to be able to get a loan from the bank because Larry Silverstein got a loan from the bank and leveraged and you put just a little bit of his money in and was able to procure the entire property.
Now, the problem is that with the Twin Towers back then, they had a big asbestos problem.
And a lot of the units, not the units, a lot of the office space that was there wasn't rented, right, for that problem.
So this was a billion-dollar stake that needed to be done to basically get it all done.
And it would have cost more to get this asbestos problem handled than it would have done than it would have cost to just build a whole new structure.
So he got this.
So not only was he able to get this loan to purchase this property, despite the fact that it wasn't cash flowing, but he also was able to get a very unique terrorism policy on the World Trade Center, which was also weird.
Now, I know some people might say, well, Myron, he was able to get this terrorist policy because back in 1993, the World Trade Center had a bombing with the failed attempt by Ramzi Yousuf.
And I would agree with you on that and say, yeah, you're right.
There was a failed terrorist attack to bring the World Trade Center down back in 1993, who ended up, Ramzi Youssef is actually the nephew of Khalil Sheikh Muhammad who planned a 9-11 attacks.
But the point is, is that, you know, too many similarities there.
And then not only that, he bought the properties.
He bought the property literally like in July before 9-11, the same year that 9-11 happened.
So, and there's even more to it there.
I don't know where you want me to go with this, but there were people that were going into the World Trade Center that were Israeli intelligence assets.
And this has been documented now at this point at a wide level.
But just too many, too many problems.
And I think we focus so much on al-Qaeda and that connection and the Saudi Arabians, which yes, they were involved in 9-11.
I'm not going to sit here and say Osama and them weren't involved.
They were.
But we almost always avoid the Israeli intelligence angle that was very prevalent in 9-11.
Encryptus.
Both of you guys said you didn't know who the tenants were.
I'd love to give you that information.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I was going to pull up...
Solomon Smith Barney, major investment bank, leased 37 floors.
This is the World Trade Center 7.
U.S. Secret Service, CIA, Department of Defense, IRS, SEC, Office of Emergency Management, other tenants in Cryptus.
Who else?
My focus was CIA, SDC, U.S. Secret Service, and IRS, and the financials.
It's a government building.
Yeah, it was.
I don't think there's many people who actually think that that one fell down as a result of natural fire because it makes no sense, even based on the explanation of the time.
Yeah, even NIST, like NIST couldn't properly explain it, but which they were the ones that were tasked with covering how the buildings went down.
And then on top of that, the person that designed the Twin Towers literally designed it so that if it gets hit by a plane, it won't go down.
There's never been a steel structure that went down from fires.
So it was 100% a controlled demolition.
It is what it is.
I think at this point, Americans are awake to the fact that 9-11 is something that we've been lied about.
A guy named Kurt Weldon went on the Tucker Carlson show, and he even alluded to a lot of this stuff as well.
I think people are waking up to the fact that 9-11 is probably one of the biggest lies.
But if we were to tell them the truth that, hey, the U.S. government, alongside Israeli intelligence, alongside the Saudi Arabians, alongside Al-Qaeda, all worked together to organize an event.
And again, it might not have been organized the way they think.
I think it was more along the lines of terrorists were trying to attack us, and then we just allowed it to happen, right?
They thought they were successful, but we merely allowed it to happen to kind of create this police state, this terrorism-feared society that we have now, the Patriot Act, et cetera.
I think if Americans knew that these were all these components were working together, it would make the American public have a deep level of distrust.
And, you know, this is JFK.
I think there's a big reason why they didn't want to disclose the JFK stuff.
We finally got what we've been looking for for the past 50 to 60 years, which discloses finally that Israeli intelligence was, in fact, involved with killing John F. Kennedy, which they've been trying to keep restricted for the past 60 years.
Well, I think you might be, I think that one might be factually, well, I say factually incorrect.
One of the documents that purportedly showed, you know, the Jews have the money and machine guns is, from what I understand, fake.
The Israeli intelligence level of involvement, I don't know that was involved in anything related to the actual assassination.
I think that was, I think what was revealed was that it's actually the American deep state LBJ with the CIA, not actual Israeli involvement.
Yeah, so no, I could go through this.
So what ended up happening was that so for on a lot of the different declassifications with JFK, what ended up happening was there was like a part that was redacted, right?
And if you look at it on the document, it says CIA is okay with disclosing this, right?
But except for the parts that are bracketed.
And the part that was bracketed now that on this last new release said Israeli intelligence.
Now, there were other countries as well that were bracketed in there too.
But I do find it interesting that the one that they focused on bracketing or redacting the most was the Israel intelligence.
And then when you find out that James Jesus Angleton was obviously, you know, because they also redacted a lot of his hearings that he gave, which a lot of those hearings ended up where he was admitting that he was involved with helping them procure their nuclear program that they currently have now.
And this was against John F. Kennedy's wishes, where he did not want Israel to be involved in nuclear proliferation for a multitude of different reasons, which, you know, which we have this nuclear arms race going on in the Middle East right now with Iran and Israel.
But that was a big, that was just a lot of the stuff that they wanted to not be shown in these documents.
So, you know, people said all the time, oh, it's just a conspiracy theory to say that Israel was involved in JFK's assassination.
They absolutely were involved.
And then the bracket of stuff that they had kept redacted all this time finally was unredacted.
And we saw that it said Israeli intelligence agencies.
Now, with that said, I do think it's very important to state that, you know, I'm not one of these crazy people that are going to say, the Jews killed JFK.
No, there was a group of people that wanted JFK gone.
The Zionist lobby wanted him gone.
Obviously, the Mafia organized crime wanted him gone.
The Cubans wanted him gone.
They were mad about the Bay of Pigs.
The intelligence agency wanted him gone because he threatened to smash the CIA into a million pieces.
Alan Dulles had an axe to grind with him.
There was a lot of people that wanted John F. Kennedy gone.
So to put all the blame on the Israelis is disingenuous and intellectually disingenuous.
But I do think that all of them had a shared interest in getting rid of him for different reasons.
Well, I know that I know the guy who I consider to be the brain of the JFK assassination, and he'll listen to this efforts and he'll be screaming at the screen.
But who was it?
Mark Robert, he would be very fun to talk to.
I'll see if we can hook it up.
I got quite a bit hook him up.
All right.
And his take, his take.
I mean, he's one of the, I think he is, you know, him and I know that he would say he knows more than Roger Stone and Roger Stone and Oliver.
Hold on one second.
Who's the director of?
No, Oliver Stone is the director of JFK and Roger Stone.
I want to make the same mistake.
One of those, those are the things.
Well, I could debunk the Roger Stone movie right now.
The problem with the Ryder Stone movie, uh, you know, JFK, the famous 1991 film that you know chronicles uh Harrison's uh Jim Garrison's um pursuit to find the killer.
Um, the problem with that movie is it doesn't cover the Israeli angle whatsoever.
And um, when you find some people are gonna say, uh, my understanding is that the Israeli angle never existed until very recently, where no one actually credibly or seriously thought Israel had anything to do with it.
And my understanding is that the recent disclosures don't actually prove that what they do prove.
I'll tell you why.
So, I'll tell you what, the fact that the fascinating reason why a lot of people don't know this: the reason why they didn't cover the Israeli angle is because the person that funded that movie was a guy named Arnon Milchan.
Arnon Milchan is a Jewish billionaire Zionist who was a spy.
He literally admitted this on Israeli television.
He was a spy, and not only was he a spy, he was a spy that worked as part of Israeli's unacknowledged nuclear program.
So, in other words, his job was to ensure that Israel's nuclear program stayed unacknowledged and stayed secret.
And this guy funded the JFK movie.
So, when you actually look at it, you know, it makes perfect sense.
The person that funded the JFK movie was a spy for Israel that was focused on making sure that the nuclear program never saw the light of day.
And then, when you find out that JFK's biggest issue with the Israelis was quite literally because of the nuclear program, it makes perfect sense why the JFK movie was funded by this guy and clearly omitted the nuclear angle with Israel because this had been known since like the 80s.
There was a, I forget the maybe it was a Doug Valentine.
I forget who the who the who the author was that wrote about this.
I mean, the book was banned everywhere, but he did go into this in Doug Valentine or something like that that talked about the Israeli angle.
It had been out for a very long time, so they knew it back in the 90s, even when they did this movie.
It's just that Arnon Milchan made sure to never mention that part in the movie.
And then what ended up happening was the JFK movie ended up becoming the most famous piece of media that documents the assassination of JFK.
And this is why so many Americans are completely unaware of the Israeli angle.
I'm reading a chapter here.
Mark Ruber helped on that movie.
He knows Oliver Stone advised on this.
And he's the one who says very clearly that that information is fake.
Which information is a wonderful debate to have here.
Which information was fake?
One of the new releases which talked about is which mentioned Israel was apparently a falsified document.
And I don't want to make a mistake as to which one it was now.
But no, look, that might be a fun discussion to have with Mark.
And I won't get into it because I know I'm not the expert on this.
Sure, no problem.
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And with the population of the USA, 100 plus 70 divided by two equals 85, why look you there?
Okay, I don't know that.
I'm going to have to figure that one out in a second.
And Big Bad Bob, there are pictures of two so-called Israeli art students for some reason renting two entire floors of the Twin Towers, standing between a massive number of boxes on both sides from floor to ceiling and wall to wall with a company label on those boxes.
And that particular company made nothing but demolition materials for the demolition.
He's referring to Team E11, if I'm not mistaken.
And that's just one group.
So here's the thing: with 9-11, and I'll go over this real quick.
There was multiple Israeli spirings that were caught in the United States leading up to and or around the time of 9-11.
So that was one group that was actually living in the towers and doing an experiment.
I think he's referring to Team E11.
Then there was another group that was actually caught by the DEA that were basically going around and taking pictures and doing surveillance on government buildings.
The DA wrote an entire memorandum on this on Israeli students that were posing Israeli intelligence assets that were posing as students.
And then on top of that, there was the urban moving systems cell that was basically following the hijackers around.
So the cell, the urban moving systems guys, which is tied to the dancing Israelis, these guys were moving the hijackers, were basically following the movers, the hijackers around because a lot of the hijackers actually lived in Hollywood, Florida when they were taking these flight classes.
And these hijackers lived in Miami Beach and were surveilling these guys the whole time under the premise in the guise of a moving company.
So what ended up happening when the attacks happened on November on September 11th, these Israelis were dancing on an apartment building and a woman saw this and called the police.
So the police ends up catching up with these guys and they're driving an urban moving systems van.
And a lot of them had, I think one or two of them had large sums of cash and plane tickets to leave the United States the day after.
And, you know, obviously this was suspicious.
So what they did was they ended up calling the FBI.
FBI interviews these guys.
Two of them, when they ran their names, came back to Israeli intelligence when they ran their databases.
And then, when they interviewed them under polygraph, hey, did you guys have foreknowledge that the towers are going to be attacked?
Um, a couple of them failed the polygraph test.
And then, to make it even crazier, about 70 days later, when they're in immigration custody, they're deported back to Israel.
They go on a talk show and they admit on the talk show that they were there to document the event and they knew what was going to happen.
And the interesting thing is, on September 11th, when the towers were hit around 9 a.m., they were there at about 8 a.m. waiting for the towers to hit and they were taking pictures, dancing, celebrating, whatever.
Then it gets crazier.
The FBI executed a search warrant on Urban Movie Systems at headquarters.
When they went there, they found a bunch of hard drives and computers, which doesn't make sense for a moving company to be there, and that they were going to basically stop shop after September 11th.
Then they did and looked that they looked at the financials and they found that the moving company was funded by Israeli intelligence.
And then, on top of that, the guy that ran the company, a dude named Dominic Souter, right?
And you guys can all look at the FBI 302s.
They're all out there, by the way.
You type in Dancing Israelis, FBI 302s.
You can read all this yourselves.
So they look for this guy, Dominic Souter.
He runs.
He flees back to Israel.
To this day, they still haven't caught him.
He's hiding out in Israel.
This guy, Dominic Souter.
So, you know, look, when it comes to 9-11, you know, I'm not going to sit here and say, because a lot of people, again, they're lazy and intellectual dishonest.
Oh, the Jews at 9-11.
No.
But what I will say is there was absolutely Israeli Zionist fingerprints all over 9-11 in tandem with other deep state assets, Al-Qaeda, et cetera.
So, and there's even more.
There's another ring that was caught out of Tennessee that was in the towers months before the towers went down.
I could go into crazy detail on this, but I don't want to bore your audience.
But there's a lot of smoke and fire there when it comes to Israeli intelligence assets that were around and/or involved with the towers leading up to the attacks.
I noticed in the chat someone said, Why is Viva suggesting the document was fake?
I need, I'm trying to find the one.
I know Jeremy the Quartering published it.
I shared it with Mark privately, and it's the one that refers to machine guns and the Jews have the money.
And I don't mean, I'm not trying to be funny.
That's not the document I'm referring to.
But I'm from what I'm talking about.
That's not the one I'm referring to.
No, that's that's why I just want people to be.
I'm not saying if we're not talking about the same document, I'm not.
I am certain that Mark Robert is certain that the document that talked about the machine guns, I think, and the Cubans and the Jews with the backing was fake, because even though it had the doc, the CIA numbers on it, whatever it was.
But, um, yeah, I mean, I could definitely set up, um, I could set up a discussion with uh Corey Hughes and your guy if you wanted.
They can debate it.
Um, but yeah, no, I mean, um, the document I'm referring to basically, um, just it says here, basically, what it says is CIA is okay to release except for brackets.
And then they finally removed those brackets.
And what you can see is Israeli.
That I do remember.
I do remember that.
And then people are arguing that it doesn't really inculpate or implicate Israel in the actual plot itself, but that the idea they had to redact that it was even Israel in the first place was to save faith for Israel.
I remember that discussion happening when these files were released.
That, as well as the James Jesus Engleton information, is also critical because James Jesus Engleton, who he was a high-ranking CIA operative, he worked very tightly with the Israeli intelligence agencies, and he was a big part of Israel being able to procure its nuclear weapon program, which obviously happened after John F. Kenny was assassinated.
First of all, Viva, I don't get scared for things like this.
I only get scared for immediate events of potential violence, and that's the fight or flight syndrome.
Viva will get the call after this live LMFA.
That's funny.
Just so you understand, with total independence come certain limitations, but come certain freedom.
First of all, they don't have my number, but no, it's funny.
It's funny that they say that.
They've already went over a bunch of different things that most people would never have touched.
So it's funny that they would say that about it.
It's a beautiful thing.
I know I think they mean it tongue-in-cheek, but because I won't get the call Call because they won't make it to me because there's no point in making it to me.
Myron, we're going to do this again.
And maybe sooner than later, I'll come back down to Miami and we'll do another one.
You're always welcome.
Thank you very much.
And ordinarily, I'll say we'd say our proper goodbyes, but you continue doing your show.
I'm going to maybe go to my locals after party just for a few minutes.
Sure.
But Myron, it's fantastic.
Look, I've never, in as much as I disagree with certain things, like the, it's, it's one thing to talk in generalities while simultaneously acknowledging that you don't get to treat any one individual in any predetermined way because of whatever you might assume or say by way of generalities for a group.
And that's unfortunately the human brain works by making rules based on probabilities.
But the true, I would say, criticizable behavior comes when you treat an individual differently as a predetermined basis before even having any discussion with that individual.
Absolutely.
I dare say, Myron, I like it.
And I appreciate you.
I appreciate you allowing me the ability to speak and kind of convey my ideas.
And, you know, though you might not agree, you're open to hearing it out, which I think is something that's like kind of lacking in today's society where people are able to, you know, have a discussion and talk to people and say, you know what?
Well, okay, you think this way.
Can you tell me why you think that way?
Right.
And I really appreciate you affording me the platform to be able to give my worldviews and why I think the way I do.
And what I love is that if you've said anything factually incorrect, the aggregate knowledge of the internet is going to figure it out on both of our ends.
And then it'll make me revise, correct, and be better for the future.
And the same for you.
Yes, absolutely, man.
And that's one of the beauties.
So, no, it's always great talking with you, Viva.
It really is.
I always can, you know, I know I got to bring my A game and be come prepared whenever I talk with you.
And it's always great to have these.
I'm going to go back and listen.
And I know our community is going to.
It was never a question of just like finding a gotcha.
If some of the stuff is incorrect, I know that you would reassess as well.
Absolutely.
That's what it means to have opinions and be ready to be challenged on them.
Thank you very much.
It's amazing.
I'll DM you after this and we'll meet up for coffee.
All right, man.
Absolutely.
Take it easy, Viva.
All right.
Have a good one.
All right.
All right.
I'm going to go to the locals after party.
All right.
So give me one second, chat.
I will go ahead and get my camera back on here.
Hope you guys enjoyed that interview with me and Viva.
Boom, we're back.
Welcome to the stream, ninjas.
We are live.
We are alive.
We're alive.
I think we're good here.
Let me go ahead and get some of this stuff going.
So bear with me here, guys.
I apologize for the issues I had with like, for some odd reason, the YouTube wasn't working.
I had to get Bills to like do it.
I don't know what the hell happened there.
Let me go ahead.
I'm going to get the chat back up for you guys.
So yeah, that was really annoying.
But shout out to Bills.
He got it going.
So give me one sec, chat.
I'm going to go ahead and get the chat up on screen for you guys right now.
Shout out to Viva Frey, man.
It's always good talking with him.
Fellow Rumble creator.
We got into some interesting topics.
Okay.
All right.
So I'm going ahead and making the multi-chat for you guys now.
And then for my Rumble Ninja, my cousin's club ninjas, I'm about to put you guys in the chat right now as well.
We'll cover some news.
What time is it right now?
It's only 6:30.
Oh, man.
Well, we did start at 4.
So that makes sense.
Shout out to Bills for obviously making things happen.
I will go ahead and read some of the super chats as well, guys.
Sorry that I didn't get a chance to really read all the chats.
obviously whenever um i'm uh i'm live i have to you know it's a little bit different uh also guys i am um working on some interesting stuff as well chat with uh getting another school on board for us to um do another one of these debates um Okay.
It's a Ivy League school.
I think you guys will enjoy it.
It'll be a good time.
Yeah, I know I didn't start at four o'clock, guys.
I know.
I couldn't get it to, for some odd reason, I couldn't get it to start.
I had to get Bills to fix it, which Bills did.
Shout out to Bills.
He logged in and made shit happen.
So what we'll do, chat, is we'll cover the news because we got a lot of news to cover.
A lot of shit going on.
Let me see here.
All right.
Okay, let me.
Before I do this, let me go ahead and look at the look at the news.
Or, sorry, look at the chat.
So, we got here.
Ho Flation says, Myron, tell them how Jay people got a message on their hat telling them to go to Into Work at 9/11.
Ooh, didn't get it, didn't get a chance to talk about that.
Sorry, E-Mac.
You feeling better?
I heard you wasn't feeling the best.
Yeah, bro.
I felt like shit, man.
I felt like shit the other yesterday, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
Been grinding.
Nav says, Can you break down the new Twins pod with Nick?
Sorry, I got 109.
If I get time, I don't know if I'll be able to do that today, bro.
I'm gonna have to do that another day.
All right, I think we're caught up.
Hey, shout out to Nick.
Yeah, I saw he was on the Twins pod.
He was on a Twins pod and talked about a bunch of stuff.
More than, oh, this is a cover.
Let's go ahead and cover this story.
And we covered a little bit of it yesterday, but now it's hitting the mainstream media for real now.
More than 100 migrants arrested in Colorado nightclub.
Boom.
Let's go into this.
DEA agents arresting more than 100 migrants during raid on an underground nightclub in Colorado.
Also, guys, if you guys want, go ahead and get your stories in.
I will cover some of the news stuff that you guys have here.
Bear with me, Rope.
What the hell?
Oh, man.
Okay.
Change the screen share.
Okay, I'm going to have to fix this after.
Bill switched the screen share.
All right, that's fine.
Let me dug Lazader is joining us from Washington with all the details.
Good morning, Doug.
Carly and Todd, good morning.
This was a dramatic raid over the weekend.
More than 100 people detained from this underground nightclub in Colorado Springs, including alleged illegal immigrants and U.S. service members.
THIS IS HOW IT ALL PLAYED OUT.
THIS IS THE DEA.
END OF THE STRUCTURE WITH YOUR HANDS UP.
THEY ARE ALL RUNNING OUT OF THE Bro, they're all running out of the clubs They don't know what's going on, man.
You see all the people streaming out of the club there.
It's a big operation.
It included some 300 law enforcement officers from at least 10 like 100 of them were illegal aliens.
They were selling drugs out of there.
It was like some bunch of shit going on in this nightclub.
And federal agencies.
In addition to the illegal immigrants, the DEA says more than a dozen active duty U.S. service members were also detained, some of whom were said to be working security.
The agency also says the club has been linked to gang members from Trende Aragua and MS-13.
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi posted this on X this morning.
The DEA apprehended over 100 illegal aliens at an underground nightclub frequented by Trende Aragua and MS-13 terrorists, cocaine, meth, and pink cocaine seized.
Two people were also arrested.
Oh, that's probably that Tussie that they talk about.
As you guys know, the Tusi is like the.
Oh, man.
Hold on one sec, chat.
Is it screen share two, maybe?
No, screen share three?
No.
For some odd reason, this is.
Let me see if I can fix this chat.
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Okay, I think I fixed the chat.
All right.
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Bear with me, chat.
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I think we figured it out, chat.
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Okay.
So we're good now.
Arrested on existing warrants.
As we approach his 100 days in office, President Trump's directive to make America safe again is achieving results.
And let's take a look at what that building looks like after the raid.
You see it boarded up there.
We may hear much more about this through the course of the morning in about two hours and 15 minutes.
There's going to be a joint briefing from White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt and Border Czar Tom Holman, Todd and Carly.
And not only that, Attorney General Pam Bondi is also going to be on Fox and Friends later this morning with all the latest details on this raid and so much more.
So stick around for that.
Douglas Zader, live for us in Washington.
Jeff, thank you.
Let's bring in John Fabragatori.
He is the former head of ICE in Denver and a Heritage Foundation visiting fellow, and he, of course, joins me now.
John, good morning to you.
sheer number of people involved in this raid, 300 law enforcement officers from 10 different agencies arresting 114 illegal immigrants.
Some of them-I ain't gonna lie.
This is a crazy operation And normally, guys, DEA doesn't do this.
DEA is not a Title VIII agency, as you guys know.
Title VIII means immigration.
But I think what happened was they were looking at them for distributing drugs out of this place.
And then obviously ICE worked alongside them and took anyone that was an illegal alien.
But it's good to see, man, because I'll tell you guys this.
I have never seen the federal agencies come together enforcing Title VIII like this ever before, chat.
Ever before.
A lot of federal agencies never want to touch immigration.
I will give them credit that under this Department of Justice and under Trump, they're actually coming out, man.
I can't remember the last time we brought FBI out to fucking, you know, do Title VIII or DEA.
With serious criminal records, the numbers here stand out to me.
What stands out to you regarding this?
Well, yeah, the numbers are incredible, but this is the actual, the second club that the DEA has raided since January with a large number of illegal immigrants.
This operation was very well planned, very well coordinated by multiple agencies.
was not leaked which which is great because we had a leaked operation here in colorado and uh you know this uh you know the showing the dea taking this down with all these multiple agencies is yeah literally everybody here IRS was there, DEA.
Absolutely a good thing.
I also want to get your take on a situation that unfolded in Washington, D.C. of all the idiotic things an illegal immigrant could do.
One of them allegedly stole DHS Secretary Christy Noam's purse.
He was arrested on Saturday, allegedly a serial criminal from Chile, wrecking up over 20 theft charges in just about five months.
His co-conspirator was arrested yesterday.
Here is Tom Holman on that.
If you're going to rob from the Secretary of Homeland Security, that means you're going to do just about anything.
So he picked the wrong target.
They got right on it.
He's now arrested.
He'll be held accountable.
Secretary Noam is an old nonsense secretary, and she's going to continue to enforce the law.
So I think this is a pure example of illegal aliens committing crimes across the city, big and small.
U.S. Attorney Ed Martin came out and said that Christy Noam was likely targeted not because of her position as DHS secretary, but because she did have a luxury.
I don't think that the dude even knew that it was her purse, bro.
If he knew it was her purse, he wouldn't have done that shit, man.
I think now he's regretting that because now he's got like a federal charges on him for stealing her purse.
Normally, if you steal a purse, excuse me, you wouldn't have the feds all up on you, but since this guy decided to steal a purse, he's cooked now, man.
Absolutely cooked.
So.
Luxury handbag with her, but imagine being these two people the moment they realize that they messed with the wrong person.
So your thoughts on this situation.
So this looks like it was a South American theft group.
We've had some issues with them throughout the United States.
And this guy just saw a target of opportunity, which is incredible that he targeted Secretary Christy Noam for Department of Homeland Security.
She has a protection detail.
We don't know if it was there with her or not, but he was able to abscond with her bag from inside of a restaurant that she was in.
This just goes to show the level of crime that these illegal aliens are willing to go to to get what they want.
Yeah, and then another big news item when it comes to illegal immigration is what's going on in our court systems.
There have been a lot of rulings against the Trump administration.
One judge was recently arrested for trying to shield an illegal immigrant from ICE.
So what are your thoughts on that element of what's going on right now and how detrimental that will ultimately be to President Trump's agenda and getting illegal immigrants out of this country?
These judges need to realize that the Immigration Nationality Act was voted in by Congress, that it is the law of the land.
And what President Trump is trying to do right now is just have that law enforcement.
He's trying to make communities safer.
These renegade judges that are going out there and trying to shield illegal criminal aliens, illegal aliens that have been convicted of crimes before, that have been deported from the United States before.
All President Trump is trying to do is keep our communities safer.
And these judges need to be sat down and explained to you what the law actually is.
Well, while all of this is going on, the numbers at the border in terms of illegal crossings is at an all-time low.
So that will ultimately take some of the heavy lifting off the show.
Yeah, I'll give him credit for that.
Absolutely, he shut down the border, which is good, right?
Deportation is not so much.
He's more focused on this anti-Semitism bullshit.
But, you know, I'll give him credit where is due there.
Thank you so much for joining us.
I'm Steve Juicy.
I'm Brian Kilmey.
All right.
So let's see what else we got here.
Yeah, absolutely crazy.
So guys, any stories that you guys want me to cover, go ahead, let me know.
What time is it?
6:49.
probably go for like another hour or so.
Because then I'm going to hit the gym and then we got to do...
Actually, no, we got to hit...
Because we're going to do Money Monday for you guys.
I think we're going to do credit cards, top credit cards for you guys for beginners.
What the hell?
All right.
Let me see here.
Um.
Oh, man.
Oh.
All right.
So let's play this.
You know, it's always funny to watch these.
Donald Trump suffered.
Here we go.
We got Dave Pacman, another prominent liberal that does not like Donald Trump.
Let's see what he has to say about this.
Trump suffers terrifying mental breakdown on True Social.
Let's see.
A terrifying mental breakdown on Truth Social over the weekend.
Truth Central.
Yeah, that one.
Let's take a look at some of what he said, which tells us so much about what he's thinking and what his administration is considering next.
All right, real quick.
Let me look at some of these chats here that you guys have.
Zion says, hey, Martin, your cops debates was freaking amazing.
What are you going to do?
When are you going to do it next?
This summer.
Early June, I think we got something set up for you guys at Ivy League School.
Bob says, hey, brother Proudie, bro, for being successful with so many things going against you.
I appreciate that, Bob Saget.
So Busa says, Martin, what's your thoughts on a 100 men versus one girl that went violent X over the weekend?
All the usual suspects think 100 men could be a silverback gorilla?
I don't even know what you're talking about, bro.
I'll be honest with you.
Emac James, I know you probably talk about it at some point, but can you talk about what's going on with Candace Owens people saying that she regrets voting for Trump and turning on the right?
I don't think it's that serious, bro.
She probably just doesn't like the stuff he's doing with the anti-Semitism stuff.
It's not that seriously, bro.
Of course, the libs are going to try to make it sound that way.
What did you think of the debate yesterday?
Which debate, Druski?
Which debate?
Oh, Truth Teller and Truth.
I think you mean Truth Teller and Haas?
It was good, man.
It was good.
It was good.
Let's see here.
Warren, can you do an episode on how Truman, Eisenhower, JFK were the last America first presidents to stand up against the influence of them boys?
One day.
I already talked about JFK extensively.
Rich, reaction to Dave Smith and Jake Shields interview.
Fuences thinks Dave Smith is controlled opposition because he says half-truths, it doesn't go all the way.
What do you think?
No, that's not what, that's not what Fuenza says.
Fuences says that Dave Smith is the approved person to give the stuff because he is one of them boys as well.
But he's opening people up to these ideas.
Craig Credit says, I tripped my income since watching your pod.
I'm 20 making $135K a year, ready to FHA my first property.
Should I pay for my catalytic catalytic converter and start in the hood?
6K down?
And can I do it now or save six to eight months longer and go to a bit nicer area?
Put yourself in a better neighborhood, bro.
You know, it's not worth living in the hood, man.
It really isn't.
Understand that everything I'm going to show you here, this is really born out of desperation to change the narrative and to point people's attention in a different direction than from the economic fiasco that's growing.
Let's start.
Quote, just released 99.9% at the border.
Best number ever recorded.
Three people got in versus hundreds of thousands in last administration.
There has never been such a difference before.
Congratulations, America.
Looked for the data that supported this claim.
Unclear what the claim even is.
Was not able to find that data.
It also seems that it wasn't even released by customs and border protection.
Trump seems to be just fabricating the entire thing.
Trump continuing, quote, I'm bringing Columbus Day back from the ashes.
The Democrats did everything possible to destroy Christopher Columbus, his reputation, and all of the Italians that love him so much.
What the F is this guy talking about?
They tore down his statues and put up nothing but woke, or even worse, nothing at all.
Well, you'll be happy to know Christopher is going to make a major comeback.
I am hereby reinstating Columbus Day under the same rules, dates, and locations as it has had for all of the many decades before.
Now, as some of you may know, there has been Christopher Columbus.
Been a change towards calling Columbus Day, the federal holiday that is celebrated or recognized in October, to Indigenous Peoples Day.
Some people now call it Indigenous Peoples Day.
Many call it Columbus Day.
My calendar, I'm looking now at the Google calendar.
Google Calendar still calls it Columbus Day.
Different entities or organizations have different days for it.
What is Trump talking about?
What hill is Trump trying to die on now?
Certainly one that's going to do nothing to help the fact that Trump is putting a blanket import tax called a tariff on just about everything coming into the United States.
It is a distraction.
It's not a particularly well-calibrated or calculated one, but it is a distraction.
And Trump continuing to distract about the tariffs by saying, quote, when tariffs cut in, many people's income taxes will be substantially reduced, maybe even completely eliminated.
Focus will be on people making less than $200,000 a year.
Also, massive numbers of jobs are already being created with new plants and factories currently being built or planned or planned doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
It will be a bonanza for America.
The external revenue service is happening.
It's so important to understand.
I already mentioned earlier in the show, we take in trillions in federal income tax.
Tariffs in 2023 brought in 80 billion.
Okay.
So to even get as much money from tariffs as we get from federal income tax, we would need to put like 100, 200% tariff on everything.
Things would be insanely expensive.
It would never happen.
But it's very important to understand that we can't just eliminate taxes.
This is why these huge tax bills, huge tax bills, require buy-in from the House and Senate.
You can't just go, hey, we got tariffs.
I'm going to get rid of taxes.
No, you can't do that.
And eliminating them altogether, a political impossibility.
Just not going to happen.
Trump's lying, lying, lying.
And then finally.
You know, what I've noticed with the liberals, man, is they really get off on like outrage with Trump.
They get off on the outrage.
They get off on saying that he's a liar, get off on attacking the tariffs, get off on, you know, what I'm realizing after as I watch more and more liberal media, right?
And excuse me, leftist political commentators is they really get off on this whole concept of like Trump is deranged.
He's crazy.
He's a dictator.
He's going to drag us down.
It's just very, very interesting, man.
Whenever I watch these guys, and you guys are going to start to see this trend as well as we watch more and more of these guys just like lose their shit.
Trump turning his attention.
And if you're wondering, yes.
Yes.
His attention on Act Blue.
And I'll explain this in a moment.
Trump posting, quote, hopefully Act Blue, the Democrats' illegal scam used to raise money, including from not allowed foreign contributions, is being looked at by authorities.
The Dems only know how to win by cheating something which they do better than any group or party in history.
But now with their terrible policies and candidates and with people like crooked Adam Schiff, who demanded a full pardon from Sleepy Joe leading the way, it is all.
I go lie though.
These these.
These insults that he uses against them, like with these nicknames, Crooked Joe, they're kind of fun.
Almost impossible to reach their money goals.
The USA is wise to these scoundrels and crooks.
Also, why did the Auto Pen give Schiff a pardon?
Because Biden knew nothing about it.
Who operated the Autopen?
That is the biggest question being asked in D.C. They almost destroyed our country.
They should all be in jail.
Let me give you the shortcut of what Trump is trying to do.
These fundraising platforms, Act Blue, Win Red, et cetera, They all operate essentially exactly the same way.
Donald Trump is trying to make Act Blue illegal or get it shut down while doing nothing about the Republican fundraising platforms.
Another way to rig things in favor of Republicans, despite claiming now for a decade that it's all rigged in favor of Democrats.
This guy's lost it.
This is not normal behavior for the middle of the night for a president of the United States.
See, they always do this, man.
Oh, he's crazy.
Not normal behavior.
He did this at midnight.
Oh.
And what we do see trickling down is the same sort of behavior to his followers.
Your mom wants you to call.
All right, bro.
These niggas are always on some bullshit.
All right.
So, real quick, here, look at this video.
I just dropped one of my clip guys dropped this video.
This is only thing.
So we red-pilled an ABBA and Preach fan, right?
Because ABBA and Preacher are retards.
They don't teach their supporters anything.
We red-pilled them on Zionism Control and 9-11.
I have like.
And by the way, this was a guy that used to watch them, but now he stopped watching them because them niggas don't provide no value.
As you guys can see here, I'm going to drop the link in here.
I want you guys to go give this thing a like and go check it out.
But we talk about 9-11 and some other stuff like that.
You know, red-pilling people on some real shit, man, because let's be honest here.
We all know that Anus and Reach don't teach you guys anything.
And quite frankly, Abba would never have a debate with me, by the way, just so you guys know.
Unless the video is being edited with jump cuts, et cetera, he's not an intelligent individual, and he knows this.
He knows he's not smart.
This tweet that got 250 million views, Myron, about 100 men versus one gorilla.
I didn't see it.
Let's see here.
Wyron says, that blue-pilled, ungrateful simp hiding behind the cross at USC isn't red-pilled.
FNF came out a little over two, four years ago.
No way he had time to get in shape, bang for the chicks vet for a girlfriend at least two years, then be in the LTR for hella years.
Yeah, bro, I know he's lying.
And he says, two out of two, you could tell, you tell men not to get married till married, so he didn't learn anything.
Divorce imminent, and she's taking the kid Clown World.
Hey, man, like I said before, bro, a lot of these Christian conservatives, bro, they're just not aware.
Kumo DTV says, I saw on Instagram, a man claiming to be at the Carmelo Anthony stabbing and said it was a community meet, not a school one, and wasn't on school property.
He said both brothers approached him and threatened him.
You think this can get him off if others cooperate?
Potentially.
Remember, the self-defense thing, guys, is going to have to be would a reasonable person believe?
Remember, guys, when it comes to this Carmelo thing with the self-defense, a reasonable person is going to need to believe that they were in danger.
Okay.
That's what it's going to come down to.
That's what it's going to come down to.
So, let's see here.
It is seven o'clock.
We're going to do a fresher fit at 8.
Because I got to get a workout in, guys, and we got fresher fit coming up.
So, what I might do is I might close this out now, which, by the way, guys, I apologize that I wasn't able to get the YouTube stream up.
So, what I'll do is for my YouTube guys, here is the full YouTube, the full Rumble stream from earlier.
I'll pin it for you guys.
The Viva Frey interview.
Okay.
It's there.
So, I think I'm going to hit the gym now, work out.
Someone said, Myron provides no value.
Thank you, Motion.
Have I provided no value and I don't know why you're here.
Then I'm going to go hit the gym.
We're going to do Fresh of Fit, and we're going to teach you guys the top five beginner credit cards.
Then we got After Hours.
Okay?
Yeah.
I think that's going to be the move, chat.
I don't want to get off, but I do need to hit the gym.
And make sure to like this video, guys.
Someone says sticks are looking thin.
Whatever, nigga.
So, yeah.
So, this is what I'm going to do.
I'm going to hit the gym, guys.
I got to go train.
I will go ahead and we'll be back in an hour for Fresh and Fit with the top five credit cards.
Okay.
Then we're going to have after hours.
Then I might go ahead and do a night train for y'all, be honest, because it's been a minute since It's been a minute since I've done one, and I am not going to be live for two days.
Okay?
Because I got to go.
Oh, shit.
Maybe I won't be able to do a night train because I got to fly out at one o'clock.
God damn it.
Yeah.
So my plane, guys, leaves out at 1:30 tomorrow.
So I actually got to wake up early.
God damn, bro.
And then I leave the next morning.
So I'll be back on May 1st to do the debrief.
Okay.
So Raid Fresh and Fit.
Thank you for doing that.
Okay.
Top five credit cards coming up.
I'm going to go hit the gym now, guys.
All right.
Love y'all, ninjas.
I'm going to go hit the gym now.
Okay.
And then I'm going to be flying out tomorrow for Tim Pool, for Tim Cast.
And it's going to be a good time.
So love y'all, ninjas.
I'm getting off now.
Maybe I'll do a night train, depending on how I feel or what time we get done.