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April 28, 2025 - MyronGainesX
01:36:50
Haz Al-Din And TruthTeller Debate: Bolsheviks, Communism, And Zionism! (Part 2/2)
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All right, what's up, guys?
Welcome back, man.
Um, so we got the uh space crack in.
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That's the X Base link if you guys want to listen in on there.
but i will be live streaming it as you guys can see here and i'll tweet it out as well right guys appreciate you guys joining in and listening unfortunately the previous Um, link that we had, it wasn't working.
I was trying for a good three, four minutes to start the space and it wouldn't start, so we have to start another one.
We had at least about one thousand two hundred, one thousand three P under people who'd set a reminder on that, unfortunately.
So do me a favor, retweet, respa share the space, let everybody know we're live.
That would be brilliant.
I am sending the link out to a few people as well because people were prepped up and hyped up for this debate.
Uh on the Bolsheviks and Holdemore.
It's gonna be Haz Aldeen from the ACP and Truth Teller debating.
I wanna welcome Myron in as host.
Myron, how are you doing?
Hey, what's up, man?
Can you hear me?
Uh yes, loud and clear.
Nice, nice.
Yeah.
No, um, I I'm also broadcasting this thing right now on YouTube and on Rumble, so we got even more eyeballs uh that way.
So um this is gonna be a big one.
Got a lot of people um that obviously were waiting for this.
Um tweeting out the the space as well.
Um so yeah, welcome to Truth Teller and welcome to Haz, man.
Yeah, I just want to welcome Truth and Has as well onto the space.
Has uh thanks for joining us, has Al Deen from the ACP party.
Um and Truth Teller uh here to debate uh has uh is your mic working?
Are you are you ready to debate?
Yep, uh thank you so much for having me on.
I've been excited to have this debate for a long time, and uh, you know, thank you both for hosting it.
Should be good.
I appreciate that, has and truth.
Are you doing well?
Are you ready for the debate?
And is your mic loud and clear?
Still mic check, how is it?
It's teeny bit low unless it's me.
Is there any way you can just increase it slightly or is it me?
I'm okay.
I'm speaking right into the mic right now.
How is it now?
Okay, it must be me.
It must be me.
Got Marin is can you hear him clearly?
Mari, can you hear me okay?
Yeah, I can I can hear you fine.
I just turn up the volume on my end.
Um because I'm on my computer.
Can you hear me?
Oh, yeah, I can hear you fine.
I can hear him.
I turned up uh I turned on the volume on my end.
Uh Silman, if you're on a computer, maybe use the master volume uh thing if you have that extension on Google.
But that's what I did.
Oh yeah, no, I realized what it was.
It's cause Haz's uh mic is actually extremely loud, and then when it's in comparison to yours and truths, then uh there's it looks uh pale in comparison.
So that's what it is.
It is it isn't actually his mic.
So appreciate everybody coming on.
Guys, do retweet, reshare the space.
Um I think this is a conversation that's been have been had on social media a lot.
Condor Candace Owens mentioned it, a lot of brick profiles mentioned it, and I think it's really good debate.
First of all, Hazardin and Truth uh are well versed in the topic.
I think it's gonna be a fire debate, and it's an important point uh to learn.
The structure of the debate, and Myron's gonna be timing it.
Is gonna be that both sides are gonna start off with a five-minute introduction.
Uh they're gonna present their argument and their position on the Bolsheviks and the Holdemar.
And then we're gonna have a scenario where they'll be we've got five main topics, and then we'll go back and forth on those.
Um two minutes each side, and we'll probably do two to three rounds, but we'll and then we'll ask both sides if they want to continue the rounds on that specific topic or not.
Um, and then what we'll have is two additional modes within the debate.
The first mode is gonna be, and both by the way, both sides don't know about this, so they're both in the exact same situation.
And I give credit to both of them.
They're literally what this was the easiest debate to put together in the history of debate.
I message has within like 10 seconds, he was like, Yes, let's do it.
I message truth, and then he said straight away let's do it.
I message has and he straight away agreed to the time, and then same with truth.
He then messaged and then agreed to the time immediately.
He literally was very very smooth.
So big credit to both guys that they were ready for this debate.
So then what we'll do is the second format, and by the way, they're both in the exact same situation.
The messages I sent were exactly the same to both sides, so they're both aware of the same thing at the same time.
And the second side part of the debate, I have has and truth are okay with it, is gonna be where both sides are able to propose a question to the other side and have a back and forth dialogue on that.
Hopefully that works out.
And then the last side, and this is where the audience comes in.
Put your questions in the tweet in the nest.
Um, because if there is questions, for example, you've got where you want both sides to speak about because obviously has aldean comes from the communist perspective.
Truth believes obviously that communism is a Jewish construct, and so therefore there may be certain aspects that haven't been covered in the debate, and you're like, mm-hmm.
I really wanted these two to debate or have a questions on this issue.
So that'll be the third part.
So is that okay with you, Truth and has?
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
Brilliant, brilliant.
Um really excited for the debate.
So guys, do retweet, reshare the space.
I'm gonna just put it on my I'm gonna put it on my pin, and then we'll start.
Myron, are you ready with the timer?
Yeah, so um the way it's gonna go, guys, is uh the first two rounds.
Well, it's actually the first round, but each of you is gonna get a five-minute preamble to state your position.
If you guys could just articulate where you stand on the Bolshevik revolution, I think the first topic is gonna be um for this first five minutes is uh that that the Bolshevik revolution was run by Jews.
Is that the first topic or just the overall preamble?
Yeah, the first five minutes will just be an overall paramel uh from both sides.
We'll go let truth go first.
Okay, and then we'll go to Haas.
Um, because he'll give his contentions and his positions, and then we'll reverse it at the end.
Um yeah, the first one.
So just general is gonna be general preamble.
And then the first topic after the first five-minute introduction is gonna be world were the Bolsheviks Jewish.
Okay, so um cool.
So truth will go first.
I got a timer here.
What I'll do is when you have 10 seconds left, I'll say 10 seconds.
Does that work for both of you and Haas?
That way I interrupt you guys as least as possible.
Uh, could you repeat that?
My bad, I didn't catch that.
No problem.
Uh, when you guys each have your rounds, so for this first preamble, it's five minutes.
When you guys have 10 seconds left, and I'll do this every time for every round, I'll tell you 10 seconds.
Or I'll say 10.
Oh, yeah, I got it.
That way you know to wrap up, you got 10 seconds to go.
And if you one of you do goes over, what I'll do is um I'll make sure I add that time to the next person.
So let's say truth goes over by 10 seconds, I will give you an extra 10 seconds, Has cool.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
All right, awesome.
Uh, if there's anything else, truth, are you good?
Yeah, I just want to make sure you can you guys can hear me okay.
I can hear you perfectly, man.
Excellent.
Cool.
I'm ready.
All right, man.
Uh uh, I will start talking now, and I'll start the timer.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
First of all, thanks to the host, co-host for moderating the debate.
Thank you to Haas for showing up as well, and for everyone that's here listening.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for taking the time on Sunday night.
All right, so I'm of the contention that the Judeo-Bolsheviks were primarily of Jewish descent, heritage, and many of them maybe even tried to hide their heritage.
But in fact, communism in and of itself is a Jewish construct.
Nobody has to take my word for it.
I like to use well Jewish sources who claim the same thing.
So I'll start with uh Rabbi Harry Watten, who says the communism soul, the communist soul is the soul of Judaism.
Hence it follows that as in the Russian revolution, the triumph of communism was the triumph of Judaism.
The Jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism.
That was Dr. Oscar Levy, and then some may call it communism, but I call it what it is.
Judaism.
That's Rabbi Stephen S. Weiss.
For those who have a little bit of understanding of the Talmud, it's quite clear that communism is essentially a manifestation of what Judaism wants, which is to create the slave state where the Jews would be on top in charge of all the means of production, and then the slaves being the Gentiles would be the ones working within the gulags and also within factories under slave labor type conditions.
This has always been the intention, contention of what communism was.
So then we ask, well, who founded this?
Who founded communism?
Who drafted the main manifestos?
We keep we have to cite then first.
Moses has he wrote the book actually.
And before that, he always he was expressing his ideas, and he met with both Frederick Engels, Karl Marx, his real name, Moses Mordecai Levy, after he changed it.
So he met with them and discussed ideas for both Zionism and Communism.
Communism, its definition is quite clear.
It's the violent overthrow of the establishment.
So that those who they claim are proletariats, the factory workers will then take control and be in charge of the means of production.
So Moses has of course wrote his book, and he also uh collaborated with both Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, where he then drafted the uh communist manifesto and later Daskapital, which would serve as the main pretext to then go about the invasions later on that would take place because it's an ideology, a socio-political economic ideology.
It isn't based on anything peaceful or democratic or through election.
Again, it's done through violent overthrow.
As you have we as we've seen throughout history with respect to how Jews operate, they've never been ones to operate by the letter of the law.
They like creating their own legal systems, their own ideologies, their own manifestos, to then go about achieving it.
Fast forwarding a bit to 1897, we had the establishment of the Jewish Bundleague, and at the same time, also the Zionist manifesto was released.
How convenient.
And then they slowly went about trying to push their way through.
If even prior to that, they were pushing their way through.
They actually assassinated Alexander II, who was the Tsar of Russia in the early 1860s, even before that, actually.
He liberated all the serfs in 1861.
Now let's talk about pre-sar, or actually during the Tsar's reign and what the conditions were like for Russia.
Well, in fact, they had some of the best working conditions that were established before World War One.
The workers, first of all, the so-called workers' peasants, serfs, whatever you want to call them, they were more like first-class citizens.
They had private property rights, they had their own property.
In fact, they could bear arms.
The Russian economy economy was a top four economy with only a two percent tax rate of minimal debt because they had their own state-run treasury where they were issuing their own notes.
And so they weren't having to worry about these banksters through the Rothschilds who were slow taking over slowly all of the major countries around the world.
They first started when they took what they took over the bank in Amsterdam in 1609, then they moved up to the UK in 1694, and they would get up to the US in 1913 and many other banks in between.
Their objective was to get to Russia, which is the first thing they did when they took power is they installed their bank.
And this way took control of the Russian monetary policy and also the fate of the Gentiles.
Now, this beef between Russia and Ukraine goes back many centuries, and the Jews they don't forget.
It was always their contention, intention, objective to want to take back the land they lost during the time of Kazaria when they had their empire between the 7th and 10th centuries before it got disbanded by Count Vladimir.
They never forget, they always try, they made attempts.
Communism was their way to get it done.
A violent way because they were going up against you know a monumental, uh an amazing and incredible Russian Tsar regime that was a benevolent leader who just sought to give back to his people and give provide a level playing field so that everybody could have a chance to promotion.
Everybody could have a shot at the Russian dream, which is a steady job, a family to have a spiritual fulfillment, because it wasn't based on atheist system.
There was no degeneracy, there was no abortion, there was heterosexual values, there was Christian values, there's a strong sense of identity and a very high standard of living for all.
That's time.
That's time, that's time.
Yeah, my bad.
I didn't uh I I had myself fucking muted.
Oh no, what the fuck?
okay i'm hearing something hold on let me mute my I appreciate that.
Uh 10 seconds, and then we'll give Haz extra 10 seconds.
Sure.
I'll be discussing what life was like on.
And then we'll proceed to discuss how things um failed essentially under cards of the SFC class by 1991.
I'll get into more details during the rounds.
Thank you for coming out.
I appreciate that.
Um minutes and 15 seconds.
Once Byron is ready, uh, we'll stop the time at my ready.
If not, I can stop the time.
Hold on, chat.
Oh, that's what it is.
Okay.
Okay, I'll do it.
One second.
Let me just get the clock up so that you get the exact time.
So it's fair.
Right.
Okay, uh, has uh go ahead.
Thank you so much.
So I'm Hazel Dean, the executive chairman of the American Communist Party, and as the executive chairman of an actual communist party, I am amazed at this colorful description our resident communist and Marxist scholar truth teller has given about communism.
Now, as somebody who studied Marxism for since I was 12 or 13 years old, uh, I I'm amazed at this new scholarly interpretation where it's all about enslaving the goyim and having Jewish people on top.
It's the first time I'm hearing about this.
And I'm sure that as the debate progresses, we're gonna find that Truth Teller is extremely well read and extremely literate regarding the classics of the canon of Marxist and Marxist-Leninist literature.
I'm sure he's read many Marxist books.
I'm sure he's read the writings of Karl Marx and Lenin and Mao and Stalin and others.
And I can't wait to have a scholarly exchange with him about his beautiful and extremely articulate understanding and description of Marxism.
Now, to be actually rather frank, I'm just gonna go ahead and say that it's pretty baffling because every single claim that he made, every single claim he had just made within the five-minute time he was allotted, is comprehensively, completely and without ambiguity, a total lie and fabrication.
From the claim that the Russian Empire had no debt when it was in fact held by the balls by French banks, and it was in fact the French Bolsheviks' cancellation of all of the foreign debt which was owned by the private banking cartels abroad that actually got them invaded by the entire world and uh besieged and embargoed even and sabotaged at every turn because these capitalists basically had all of their property confiscated and their debts completely liquidated.
To his claim that under the beautiful paradise of czarist Russia there was no degeneracy.
When you had registered child prostitutes as young as 11 years old who were basically roaming the streets of Russia's major cities with the permission of the state.
You're talking about a state where maybe at best by World War One, a quarter of the population could read and write.
Uh, abominably low literacy rates where people were living in huts and the overwhelming majority of the country were living in the backwoods as peasants, barely teetering on the edge.
If any famine came, they would just basically die in mass numbers, and nobody would do anything about it because nobody cared, and they just considered it a humanitarian tragedy.
It's precisely such conditions, the rapacious capitalist exploitation of these peasants stealing their land and then preying on them as wage laborers, the robbing of the peasants of their land, the sending them off to die in a vain war against an overwhelmingly more industrialized Germany where Russia was so backward it couldn't even sustain itself and defend itself against foreign aggressors.
These are the conditions that led to the success of the Bolshevik Party.
And regarding the formation of the Russian revolutionary movement to begin with, it's true that the Tsar Alexander II abolished serfdom, and that's great.
But uh following the abolition of serfdom, all that happened was that the Russian peasantry were placed under debt obligations by creditors and basically became de facto serfs, again, the ones that didn't went on to be uh trafficked and and and shoved into these factories with abominable working conditions, where they were treated like cattle.
They had no rights whatsoever.
They were living under the most depraved and miserable conditions uh imaginable.
And these were the circumstances that led to the widespread proliferation of Marxist ideas among the underground revolutionary intelligentsia.
Marxism has always formed in response to a fundamental oppression and exploitation of the people.
They say that how bad the communist regimes were and how terrible communism was, but they never actually go into the weeds and the facts of how terrible and awful it was before and how much communism actually improved things relative to where they were coming from.
And uh moreover, I I mean, I don't even know where to begin.
Every single thing he said doesn't make any sense when you scrutinize it from the basic perspective of historical fact.
How could communism be about Jewish people being on top and all the Gentiles enslaved when the majority of communist states throughout history did not have any significant Jewish presence?
We're talking about China, we're talking about the DPRK, we're talking about uh Cuba, we're talking about today's Venezuela, not necessarily communist, but definitely Marxist and socialist.
We're talking about, you know, uh across Africa and South Yemen.
The overwhelming majority of communist uh political construction was happening outside of the West, outside of places that had significant Jewish populations.
And this has led a lot of these tweakers who are just pulling things out of their ass, lying about the Bolsheviks, lying about communism, to say that Kim Jong-un is a Jew, and that Xi Jinping is a Jew.
And at a certain point, people have to wake up and realize how far are we gonna take this complete sham?
It's just total fabrication, and they're pulling it all out of their ass, and I can demonstrate that, demonstrate that pretty easily.
I appreciate that, has thank you so much.
That was exactly five minutes and fifteen seconds.
And I can take it from here.
The software I was using was being I had to figure out where to turn it off when it rings, but I got it.
Um each round from this point forward is gonna be how long, Suleiman?
Two minutes.
And just before we get on to the next round, you guys, if you can do me a favor, retweet reshare the space.
We have 1,200 people on YouTube, and Myron's YouTube channel, we have 900 on Myron's Rumble channel, and I believe we have almost 1,200 on this Twitter space.
Uh so retweet, reshad the space, a huge spare, uh huge debate.
I think everyone's been talking about it.
It's gonna be fire, so retweet, reshad space.
So we're gonna go on to the first round.
The first round, as Myron said, is gonna be two minutes long.
Uh we'll do multiple rounds, and then once we think that both sides maybe wanna, and then we'll speak and we'll discuss with this both sides.
But minimum gonna do three rounds each, and then if we think that there's a need for another round, we will, and it'll be two minutes long.
And the first uh topic is um were the Bolsheviks Jewish?
Let me pass it back over to Myron to uh speak and then conduct the debate.
Sure, no problem.
Okay, so the first topic is were the Bolsheviks uh Jewish.
I guess I'll turn it over to True Teller again.
I got two minutes on the clock.
Once you start speaking truth, I'll uh start I'll hit the timer and then again I'll give you a 10 second thing.
Uh sorry about that first mishap with uh with the software, but I gotta figure it out now.
So uh once you start going, dude, I'll uh I'll start the timer.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
Yes, the Bolsheviks were primarily Jewish, not all Jewish, and you don't need to take my word for it.
Take the word of Vladimir Putin, who stated that around 85% of the Soviet regime was made up of Jews.
Why don't you take the word of Alexander Solšanistin, who actually served in the Red Army, unlike anyone here, and he was also a prisoner in the gulags, and he said the majority of the Soviet regime was also Jewish and he broke it down.
He actually went up to about 90-95%.
They said it was Jewish, and I can name names.
Of course, the likes of Swarodlov or Yagoda, Yeshov, Beria, Kagonovich, and just so many more names, not Feli Frankel, and was of course funded by Jews.
It was not just funded by Jews, it was created by Jews, as I mentioned.
It was used that created the manifestos.
I've already mentioned Karl Marx and of course Moses Hess, who was used and financed it from Max Warburg, of course, Jacob Schiff and Armin Hammer, Ashberg, and it was used that carried it out under the leadership of Trotsky and also Lenin, who is a quarter Jewish at the very least,
and uh Sverlov and many of the other militants, terrorists who came and invaded Russia, and of course, the first law they instituted was an anti-Semitism law to ensure they would be protected and they could use their law because they canceled all the laws of the SARS regime to essentially destroy any type of dissent because this was not a tolerant society out to help anybody, was just out to help themselves and acid strip the country, which is the first thing they did when they stole the gold.
In addition to that, they carved out a Jewish oblast for themselves.
They were also building settlements for themselves.
That's what Kaganovich was doing on the outskirts of Ukraine.
They were just stealing land and stealing resources while they were killing off slaves within the gulags and forcing them to work for meals while they owned nothing, because communism entails owning nothing and making no profits zero.
The complete antithesis to what was going on in the SARS under the SARS rule, where he allowed for everyone to own property, have property rights, bear arms, have rights, have insurance, and also literacy rates.
He mentioned the literacy rates over 56% by 1918 seven, and they were on their way to being a hundred percent within 20 years because they were building 10,000 schools a year.
So baffles my mind that somebody would lie about the rates in Russia or lie about the fact there were famous scientists within Russia, they were doing all kinds of incredible things from building.
That's time truth.
I'll add an extra five uh for Haas.
Um Haas, whenever you're ready, I'll get it going.
Sure, the literacy rates were absolutely nothing close to 56% for the overall population of the Russian Empire.
That's just blatantly a lie.
Just like all the other things you just said in your um in your little spiel there.
So there was never a point in which the Bolshevik leadership, however, you looked at it, was majority Jewish.
And there was only five percent of the Bolshevik party uh as a total were Jewish in general.
Now, there were some prominent Jewish personalities in the in the Bolshevik party, and the question you have to ask is what are the causes of that?
If the causes of that are the consequence of some kind of in-group Jewish orchestrated conspiracy to assert their interests at the expense of Gentiles.
Why did these Jewish uh members of the Bolshevik leadership not act in unison?
Why were they constantly forming uh on opposite sides of the debates on opposite sides of the power struggles?
For example, Zenoviov and Kamenev uh fighting against Trotsky in the 1920s.
Uh, for example, Yagoda, a Jew, being the one who shot Zenoviev and Kamenev and oversee saw their executions.
Why was it that and Kaganovich, who was Stalin's right-hand man, who himself was uh totally against these other Jewish personalities?
So, if we're gonna go with the idea that this is mainly a Jewish thing and that these are all Jews working together to assert their interests, how do we explain the fact that they are constantly uh on the opposite sides of different factions within the Soviet government and within the Bolshevik Party?
It doesn't have any explanatory value, and it doesn't make any sense.
If we actually want to get into the weeds of why there was uh Jewish presence at all in the first place in the early years, we could get into that and I'd be happy to.
But any notion that it was coming from this uh in-group Jewish orchestrated conspiracy is complete bullshit.
Regarding foreign funding, there's absolutely zero evidence whatsoever that there was any foreign funding for the Bolshevik revolution in particular.
All sources demonstrate very clearly that all of the capitalists uh abroad who were hopeful about the February Revolution, as soon as the October Revolution happened, where they basically cancel all the foreign debt, they completely uh rejected the revolutionary movement in Russia and actually supported war efforts by capitalist governments to invade the uh uh the revolutionary Russia and depose the Soviet government.
So that's completely fabricated and and uh completely made up.
That is time.
All right, so I think you want about seven seconds over there.
It's fine.
Um, you guys kind of evened out from there.
Uh uh do another, I guess we'll do another one so that I can uh yeah, at least two ma, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay.
Uh uh Truth, go ahead.
I got two minutes on the clock when you're ready.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
So it absolutely was foreign funded.
There's no way you can finance a 90,000 plus army coming from New York with bags of gold to be able to pay off mostly uh mostly Jewish army by Trotsky, by the way.
He was the one he created the uh the Red Army, and he was of course a Jew, nobody disputes that part at least, with help from Lenin, Stalin, Sverlov, and many of the other leaders who would go on to massacre close to 100 million Russians based on many different estimates from many different scholars.
It's not even really denied anymore that they killed a lot of people, just because they could.
And uh the whole objective was again to asset strip the country because the first thing they did was steal the gold.
There absolutely was a massive Jewish presence.
I already cited Alexander Solchiness and no comment on that on that.
And he's a subject matter expert.
Even Putin said he respects him.
Even Putin stated 85% of the leadership was Jewish.
So did Dimitri Gordon, a Ukrainian journalist who's Jewish, the top journalist in Ukraine.
He even admitted based on all the research he's done, people should look him up.
He's a he's a very intelligent guy.
He said the leadership was primarily Jewish as well, and it served for the main purpose of again, taking the assets from Russia, installing the bank and getting back at the Goy, getting back at the Slavs, who Kromarx absolutely hated, he called them genetic trash.
And uh what's amusing to me is this foreign invasion that took place, because none of these most of these guys were not even native Russian that showed up there.
Why would anybody defend it defending their interest over the actual Russians who were subject to the massacres that would take place?
And let's look at who actually got killed.
The majority of the people that killed were mainly Orthodox Christians.
Their churches were destroyed.
Over 200,000 priests and monks were killed.
Close to 54,000 were destroyed or turned into wheat silos because again there was a process of collectivization that would lead to famines like the Holodomir to slaughter people deliberately by design.
Vladimir, for those who don't know, it just means death by targetation.
It wasn't even the first one.
They were doing all throughout the 20s because they could never figure out farming.
All right.
Is that it?
Uh yeah, no, that yeah, that's time now.
Uh okay, I never hear you say 10 seconds.
I literally say it, but you don't hear me because you're talking.
But sorry.
You know what?
I'll trust any own timer.
It's fine.
No, no, um, I say it, but then you just keep going and then I'll say it again, and then by then it's already 10 seconds.
But um, you ready?
Yep.
All right.
So Solzanitsin was a prolific liar and a complete bullshitter who betrayed his own motherland and fabricated a bunch of claims.
I don't know why you're making it seem like anything he says should be taken as fact.
I There's no primary source evidence whatsoever that suggests the outlandish and ridiculous claims he makes.
Regarding how the revolutionary government was funding its actual overwhelmingly Russian army, Red Army, uh that was manned by the Russian peasantry.
They didn't need to fund it because they just seized the Russians and peasants.
They seized all the factories, they seized all the energy, they seized all the resources, they seized all the wealth, they just took it.
That's what the revolution did.
And that's why the foreign capitalists bankrolled the actual foreign uh invasion of Russia, which was actually led by global global capitalist powers on behalf of the white movement to depose the revolutionary government, to get back their loans, to get back their wealth, and to get back uh, for example, Royal Dutch shell, all of its oil was simply taken by the Soviet government.
Uh, because the Russian Empire's resources and oil, it was all owned by foreigners.
So this idea that they they needed somehow outside funding when all they had to do was just mobilize the working class and the peasantry to just rise up and seize the wealth.
It's ridiculous.
They didn't need any foreign funding.
They were a highly organized organization for decades.
I mean, you haven't even studied anything about how the Bolsheviks were organized.
You don't know anything about their origins.
You haven't even read any of Lenin's works or writings.
You couldn't possibly understand what they were motivated or compelled by.
You say that it was all about Jewish revenge against Gentiles, but have you ever read a single word of Lenin?
Do you know anything about the actual ideology or the outlook of Marxism?
Do you know anything about the debates and polemics and discussions that were happening in the early uh revolutionary period within Russia?
Have you ever actually set yourself to the task of even trying to comprehend or understand Marxism?
No, you're just resorting to these crazy claims.
You mentioned this one Jewish rabbi who claims that uh communism is Judaism.
I could give you like dozens of more quotes by actual reputable Christians, by the way, including the Pope.
All right.
That was uh 10 seconds right there.
I'll do it that way since it'll be easier.
I said 10.
I said uh I said 10 seconds, but I don't think Hans heard me.
Um so I'll unmute the space again and uh I'll turn it over to the truth teller.
Because I think that's the easier way to go.
Because I don't I think some of you guys sometimes you guys aren't hearing me when I say uh 10 seconds, 10 seconds.
Uh do you want me to t jump me to time it, Myron?
Because I think it is your mics getting over a bed by the mics.
Um that could be it too.
That could be a two.
It's up to you.
If you let me if you want to do it, that's it.
Yeah, let me try this round, and then if it doesn't work, then we'll do the mute thing.
Sure, no problem.
Uh go ahead, true time, whenever you're ready.
And so you got uh go ahead, truth to two minutes down now.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
So look, nobody needs to take my word for it.
Let's look at what some historians said about Russia on the SARS regime to see if it was so horrible.
Let's look at what William Howard Taft said.
He in fact said that the Tsar created an incredible and advanced labor system that was a boon to the entire Russian economy.
He was so impressed by it.
It was something he wanted to bring back home.
And even though he was told personally to abrogate the treaty with uh with uh Russia that had been in place since 1832 for commerce and navigation, he didn't want to do it.
Of course, karma still forced him to do it because American Jews were putting pressure to cease relationships with Russia to try to isolate the country under the SARS regime.
And it's part of the reason why they instigated World War One to begin with.
Now again, let's look at some of what took place while these Jews took power in the USSR.
I like to let action speak, who cares what the words are, what Lenin or Stalin, whoever said, why would you institute an anti-Semitism law?
The first thing that you do if you're not in charge, you obviously want to protect yourself as the ruling class.
Why would you be carving out a Jewish oblast for yourself if you're not in charge?
I thought communism was supposed to be based on egalitarianism and classless.
So why is a certain group being protected and given its own property?
Why is it that Stalin supported the establishment of a Zionist state close to 1947, 1948, when he voted in favor of creating Israel, and he also, of course, spoke Hebrew and he spoke Yiddish as well.
He was married to Rosa Kaganovich, Kagonovich's sister, and he had kids with her, of course.
And he was uh no one's gonna call him a devout Jew by any means, but he was course ethnically Jewish himself.
And what these Jews like to do, the ones that came from Russia essentially, is they like to hide their identity because they can't a lot of them came from the pale settlements where they were restricted with whether they could do for works that would pretend to convert over to some kind of Christian face, so this way they could find other opportunities within Russia, but in fact, they remained Jews, crypto Jews, in fact.
So they absolutely were.
I'll take Putin's word for it, I'll take socialism's word for it, I'll take Dimitri Gordon's word for it, that the majority of the Soviet regime was absolutely Jewish because they benefited themselves.
Time.
Umbrillian.
Um and then Haas, go ahead for your uh two minutes.
Yep, sure.
So here's the thing.
You're claiming that Russia was this paradise before communism.
One in four bit of every baby that was born died of infant mortality.
That number was reduced by a quarter uh after the Soviet uh industrialization and modernization efforts.
So we're saying is a complete lie on that front.
Now, this idea that uh there is an anti-Semitism law is a complete fabrication.
Just because you saw a JPEG somewhere on Twitter claiming it doesn't mean it's true.
There was never a single law in the Soviet legal code at any point in the history of the Soviet Union which specifically outlined anti-Semitism.
There is a general law against the spreading of racial enmity in general.
So this applies to Armenians, Aziris, Georgians, and all the other minorities.
Nothing exclusively about anti-Semitism whatsoever.
It's a complete lie and fabrication.
I'm going to go through the entire Soviet legal code throughout the 1930s, throughout the 20s, throughout the 40s, 50s, 60s, whatever you want, and we can go through it one by one, and you'll find there's absolutely nothing.
Now, regarding this claim that the Jewish autonomous oblast means that Jews were in power.
What about all of the other small ethnic minorities?
Not to mention all of the actual Soviet republics for Georgians, for Armenians, for Aziris, for Ukraine, for Bell for Belarus, for so many other nationalities, all the ASSRs for all of the sub uh ethnic groups and nationalities within the SSRs.
Everyone was given their own uh territory.
They they experimented briefly with the idea of giving the Jews their own uh a blast.
It wasn't even an ASSR, it wasn't even an SSR.
Uh, somewhere deep in the far east, like in Siberia, and it wasn't even popular among them.
How does that how does that somehow explain that they're in power, that they're being given this small sliver of of very infertile, inhospitable land all the way in fucking Siberia that just somehow proves they're in power uh in power?
It doesn't even make any sense.
Yeah, sure.
No, sorry, yeah, 10 seconds.
Oh, yeah, I mean that's all.
Oh, okay, brilliant.
Um, so guys, um, has and truth, you've done three rounds on this topic.
Do you want to do one more or two more rounds, or do you want to move on to the next topic?
Sure.
No, we can keep going.
We want to do one more round on it at least.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
Um let me uh okay, I'm about to stop the timer.
Yeah, go ahead, truth.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
Uh it's cute that he's uh concerned about the infant mortality rate under the Tsar while abortion was illegal on and off during the communist regime, and they did 200 million abortions, killing unborn babies.
What about that?
Did you know the birth rates under the SARS rule for about 30 years was an average of 10 kids per woman?
Nine to ten.
That came down to about two to three, because well, the USSR was constantly in state of war essentially, because they were a war-raging expansionist state seeking to spread their demonic ideology to other countries.
And so the birth rates came down considerably, and they had a population of roughly 160 million before 1917.
They're only at around 144 million now.
Explain that.
Because the population was decimated so hard by abortion, by famine, by the disease, by of course, uh legalization of homosexuality, LGBTQ, degeneracy, filth, usury, and he tries to claim there wasn't debt during the USSR.
Of course they were in debt.
What about the landleaks agreement from 1941 where they took a billion dollars from America and they took 11 billion dollars more, otherwise they would have never had any chance in World War II.
Did you forget?
20 million dollars from Jacob Schiff in 1917, and then that obviously got paid back with the stolen gold.
You couldn't even figure out manufacturing or farming or anything like that.
You needed help.
You signed a Rapallo agreement with the Germans, you supposedly hated so much so they could help you build infrastructure, and then you sign off on a deal with Henry Ford in 1929 because you couldn't figure out how to build cars, tractors, trucks, or do any type of farming.
All you knew how to do is collectivize based on the minimal that you were doing because during the SARS reign, Russia was considered the bread the world's bread garden because they were exporting so much wheat oil, barley, rye, etc.
I say, look at the numbers.
I posted all this stuff.
I've got over 42,000 posts of my name and many articles.
You can see that compared to what the communists were under the SARS reign, nobody starved to death.
There were no mass famines.
So you can clearly see the difference where when during one reign you've got collectivization process with the other.
You're the world's garden basket and you're export you're a net exporter.
I appreciate that.
Okay, we're gonna do one last round on this, but it's oh no, sorry, Haslago that says sorry.
One second, just give me two seconds.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Len lease was completely negligable.
It would all eighty-five percent of it came after the decisive uh battles that actually turned the tide of the war already.
Historians estimate that it only shortened the war maybe by uh uh a few months, actually.
So Lend Lease was completely negligible.
It was about four percent of the supplies that they had used, and it was old, it wasn't even used in time.
So that is complete nonsense.
It's one of the fucking russophobic myths that are used by uh NATO and Western countries today to downgrade the Soviet effort during the war.
Now, the regarding the problem of the demographic crisis, people not having enough kids.
Well, when you modernize and you industrialize that that tends to be what happens.
It's happening in Japan today, it's happening in South Korea, it's even happening in China.
It's a global crisis in general.
You can't blame communism specifically for that.
India, a very poor, uh impoverished country, had a huge explosive birth rate.
We know that very, very poor kind of really, really backwards countries tend to have high, high birth rates.
Doesn't mean there's some kind of advanced civilization.
This whole thing about the legalization of homosexuality is complete bullshit.
They threw out the entire legal code in the early years of the revolution.
That didn't mean they institutionalized or tolerated homosexuality was still being persecuted under common law.
So that's another complete lie.
By the way, Rosa Kadanovich never existed.
Stalin never had a Jewish wife.
I don't know if I caught that last time.
The idea that there was usury under the Soviet Union is laughable.
I mean, there was not even any uh tolerance of of market relations uh until the MEP, but the idea of usury when this central bank was nationalized and owned by the state, it's impossible that it could be any usury.
You want to know where there was usury under the czar.
The Tsar's regime, first of all, was under the control of usurious powers abroad, but usury was a widespread practice, especially by kulaks after the Stolipin reforms who would prey on uh peasants in times of famine and and basically forced them to take out usurious loans in order to steal and gobble up their land, which is also the tactic capitalists were employing uh even before the Stolipin reforms.
So it's complete nonsense.
There the czarist famines, you had one million people die in the eighteen nineties Volga famine.
You had eighteen ninety-seven, three hundred to five hundred thousand people die.
Okay, yeah, I can name more about three seconds more so we'll give that to truth truth.
Um concluding remarks on this topic.
Uh go ahead, we'll do ninety seconds of concluding remarks.
Um, and then we'll move on to the second topic.
Uh so truth, go ahead.
Ninety obviously you'd have the extra three seconds, so be ninety-three seconds for you.
But go ahead, truth.
Thank you.
So I always say judge on action actions, who cares what anyone else says or thinks?
And it's quite clear that Russia was an industrialized country, a top four economy with low tax rates, high GDP growing at ten percent, eight to ten percent per year for thirty years before World War One.
They weren't under any type of they had their own in-house treasury, there was i and it was imposing at best very low interest loans that nobody wouldn't subjecting anybody to type of to like repossession of homes.
There were no market crashes for the most part, things were very stable, in fact.
You know what there wasn't during the restar's reign?
There were no mass famines.
They weren't killing people by the millions.
There was no hilaterometer from 1932 to 33, where they killed over 10 million Ukrainians, Belarusians, and of course Kazakhs by starving them to death.
That didn't happen.
Why were there 70 famines during the USSR if they were so advanced and it was such a great ideology?
Why did communism end up failing by nineteen ninety-one if it was supposed to be so successful?
Why did they make so many bad decisions like going into Afghanistan and engaging in a 10-year uh stalled war that led to just murder of death on both sides?
A lot of bad decisions, they couldn't afford to finance their debt anymore.
They had they actually left communism with a hundred billion dollars in debt.
They were saddle with that because they were spending 50% of their revenue just on military, so this way they could go and invade other countries and spread their filthy demonic ideology so they could kill off that other governments in power and install their own rogue regimes and steal the resources of the land just as the Jewish banks were sponsoring them to do.
Thank you.
Perfect, that's perfect time.
Uh, Hazville concluding remarks on the first topic, uh, for 90 seconds.
Go ahead.
Right.
They had such a high military budget because they were being besieged by the most powerful capitalist countries in the entire world.
I mean, untold tens of billions of dollars were being spent even more than that were being spent in a concentrated effort by all the world's major capitalist powers, including the most powerful in the United States, to destroy the Soviet Union and to destroy its ability to have any kind of international relations.
So that's why they had to have such a high military budget.
They learned the lesson of the Nazi German invasion and they couldn't allow it to ever happen again.
They know that they were being encircled and that at any given moment they were going to be completely toppled and destroyed by foreign rapacious capitalist powers.
So ask yourself the question why did they need to defend themselves so aggressively?
Why was their system such a threat to the powers that be into the global system that prevailed?
Nobody seems to be asking these questions.
Nobody seems to be asking the open and obvious question of why are all of the countries today which are resisting the global system mostly aligned, at least having some connection to the communist tradition and communist history.
There's a reason for these things.
The notion that under the Tsar that you didn't have usury, you didn't have debt, it's a complete laughable lie.
Everything he's claiming is completely pulled out of his ass.
The idea 10 million people died in the so-called holodomore, a lie invented by the CIA backed uh uh organization of Ukrainian nationalists is also laughable.
When estimates put the death toll much, much lower and due to natural causes, and after that famine, there was never another one again, except the one that was a consequence of the World War II.
So we can get into I'd love to get into the weeds of these so-called statistics that he's getting for that because uh yeah, okay, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm I put in if that's gonna be the next topic.
But guys, uh appreciate has and truth.
That was the conclusion of the first topic.
In the comment section, who do you think won the first round?
Uh, which is were the Bolsheviks Jewish?
Was it Haz Al Din from the ACP party or was it truth teller in the comments and let us know?
In addition to that, remember the last round, it is gonna be um questions from the audience where has and truth will debate.
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Myron, anything before we jump onto the second round?
Uh and you can introduce the second round as well.
Yeah, you guys can hear me now, right?
Because I I don't know what happened.
I had myself unmuted, but for some odd reason it didn't work.
I unmuted on Twitter and on uh my roadcaster, but it it's fine.
They can hear you.
The the issue is that you know when uh has and truth a speaking and then you speak, they can't hear you.
Yeah, yeah, I noticed that because I was like looking back again and I saw that I was unmuted and it wasn't working.
So that's fine.
No biggie.
Um I'll just be here.
I'm running a poll on my chat as well right now with who they think won uh the part one.
But yeah, we'll go right into the second topic uh if you can introduce it to the people.
I appreciate that, Myron.
Yeah, the second topic, funny enough, they have just touched on it, has and uh truth, and I will get Has to go first on this topic, and it is gonna be, and because I am interested in his contention and position on this, is um the second question is the Holdemar real and was it a genocide of Christians?
Hazaldin, uh we'll we'll do uh we'll do two minutes.
Yeah, again, I think we'll keep it to two minutes.
Go ahead, Haz.
You've got two minutes uh do provide your position.
The holy more was a term that was invented around the 70s and 80s by the Ukrainian diaspora that were Nazi collaborators and fled to the West where they were funded and backed by USAID and uh the CIA to basically make it seem like the Soviets had their own equivalent of the German Nazi Holocaust to put them on the same level and to demonize the Soviet Union in this way.
It's a fabrication created by Ukrainian nationalists to call it a genocide.
Now, the idea that it was somehow targeting Orthodox Christians because Christians were so uh uh were victims is nonsense because the majority of the population at the time were Christians, so it follows that the majority of the victims were also Christian.
But that doesn't mean that all the victims were Christian, there were Jewish victims of that same famine.
It was a famine, it wasn't intentional, it wasn't deliberate.
And the Soviet government in 1933, when they received word of it, did everything in their power to relieve that famine and divert foreign exports back to uh give it famine relief, giving far more uh in terms of famine relief than they did for foreign experts, which were just as dire and necessary because here's why they needed to export grain in order to get mechanization and modernization of agriculture with industrial equipment, because that's the only thing that actually puts an end to famines in the long term.
That's why, following Stalin's industrialization, you never saw famines of this scale ever Happen in the history of Russia ever again because they managed to industrialize and modernize their economy.
There was one that happened after World War II as a consequence of the devastation of the Nazis on soul wheat industry, but you can hardly blame the communist system for that.
They lost about 27 to 30 million people.
Now, reason uh reputable historians never ever put the famine's death toll at these ridiculous numbers that he's talking about.
He claimed that a hundred million people died uh according to the because of the regime's intentional policies.
That's completely ridiculous.
I mean, even the authors of the black book of communism who have since admitted that they were bullshitting, put the total, which includes China and every other communist state at 100 million.
The idea that it happened in the Soviet Union alone, it's just complete nonsense, it's ridiculous.
Um, two minutes in the font.
Do you want another minute to provide your thesis or your position?
Yeah, that would help.
Another minute would help.
Brilliant, let's do because then it's to stop so people don't understand the foundational business.
Yeah, go ahead, Haskov for another minute, and then we'll do give true three.
Yeah, so the causes of the famine of 32 were the result of a poor harvest due to environmental factors, and it affected many other regions, not just Ukraine.
It affected Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, and it affected other parts of the Soviet Union, like Kazakhstan.
It was the result of a poor harvest.
Now, this was very common.
It was a constant, never-ending cycle for a thousand years in Russia, where because of a drought, because of environmental conditions, there would be famine and everyone would just starve and nobody would give a shit.
I mentioned the millions and millions who died of hunger and famine under the Tsar.
Nobody cares about that.
They all considered it a humanitarian catastrophe.
So when it happened under the Soviet government, before they were able to industrialize and therefore put an end to the famines in the long term, everyone's blaming communism for famine, but famine was the norm before communism.
It was the Soviet industrialization efforts that actually put an end to famine in the long term.
I appreciate that has.
Um, truth.
Um, you're gonna get three minutes.
Uh so do um go ahead.
Thank you.
So this is typical Jewish behavior, blaming the victims.
Oh, it's natural causes, disease.
It just happened.
No, it was deliberate.
There were so many famines between 1917 and 1991.
The Hodomir was just one of the bigger ones.
And again, in terms of acknowledgement, well, guess what?
The Ukrainian courts already acknowledged it and found posthumously both Keganovich, Poshiev, and others who were working on their Stalin of guilty of the holodomir famine.
So they went through all the records and the deaths that took place, realized it was by starvation.
Here's why spread of disease, because there was malnutrition taking place deliberately, because of the process of collectivization, because the economy was weak, they weren't producing enough, they went from not producing enough to being net exporters.
Well, they were net exporters under the SARS regime because once again these people couldn't figure out farming because they were grossly incompetent, Jews don't know how to do farming, they're not good at manual labor.
That's why they always have to outsource it and get help from the likes of Henry Ford and also the Germans, both through the Rapolo Treaty, and also even after World War II, when they brought in over 200 German scientists to help them figure out their aeronautical division so they could build fighter jets.
So you see, it's because of gross negligence.
It's still it was the it was not just negligence, it was a deliberate systematic effort to kill people by starvation because that's the cheapest way to kill.
You don't even have to use a bullet.
And when they weren't killing people with starvation, they were using gas chambers.
It was in 1935, in fact, that Davidovich Berg invented the first mobile gas chamber where he was connecting his exhaust pipe to the chamber and killing off Russians that were within that chamber as they were being transferred to the gulags.
And if they survived, they'd end up getting tortured to death.
One example of a torture routine they used, they would tie up the Russian slaves and literally saw them in half because that's how demonic these individuals are.
Just as they wiped out the Tsar's entire family, him, his wife, his five kids, and even his dogs, they wiped them all out.
There's no due process because due process never existed under SARS under the uh the Soviet regime because these people are violent, criminal, judeo, sadists.
Okay, they worship Satan, and for them when they when they commit these types of sacrifices, it's towards their god, which is the devil, because that's who they ultimately worship.
Now, let's look at some other proof of the Holodomir.
Why don't we look at the statements of Arthur Kessler?
He was the Jewish journalist.
He came in as an outsider in 1932 and witnessed for himself the horrific starvations that he saw in the trains that he was going from town to town within what's modern day Ukraine, Belarus, and other cities.
Why don't we also look at the testimony of Gareth Jones?
He was a Welsh journalist.
He came in three times in the Soviet Union between 1931 and 33, and he posted 20 separate articles talking about the holodomir that took place and the famine that was imposed on these poor victims.
Victims of vicious Jewish behavior to steal the fundamentals of food, oat wheat, barley, and leave him with nothing to eat.
Because that's how vicious these people actually are.
So there's absolutely no reason.
Well, I mean, both so but we have both the Ukrainian courts that have acknowledged it took place and even put guilty pleased on those who were in charge of it.
And even the Russian courts have acknowledged it as well.
So there's simply no disputing.
We've got eyewitness testimony, and we've got the courts uh guilty pleas.
Thank you.
Thank you for that uh truth.
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Great debate going on.
Uh, the second topic that we're speaking about, uh, which the introduction has been done by Hazl Din and Truth Teller is is the Holdemar real and was it a genocide of Christians?
Uh, I'm gonna give the mic straight back to Haz.
You've got two minutes.
Uh, go ahead, start whenever you want.
Citing the courts of modern day Ukraine who came to the determination that it was a genocide as part of an explicit policy help and funded by the CIA and USA to demonize Russia and accuse them of genocide is laughable as if they don't have biases.
There's not a single Russian court that has ever determined that the Soviet government was guilty of genocide against Ukrainians or genocide in general, so that's a complete lie.
And moreover, you're you're selectively choosing these testimonies of anti-communists.
What about even people who are not even communist, like Sir John Maynard, who was an official in the Indian government, who stated that the idea of three to four million dead has passed into legend, that the notion that the calamity of uh is comparable to the one that happened in 1921 and 22, which was before collectivization.
This is when the Kulaks were basically allowed to run rampant throughout the 1920s.
That's why there was the famines that happened after 1917, by the way, and uh before the time uh of the Soviet government in general, because the agriculture wasn't collectivized, they didn't have mechanized agriculture, they didn't have tractors, they didn't have modern machinery, they didn't have any of the modern farming equipment that was necessary to actually mitigate famines when environmental disasters struck.
You can't explain why, after this collectivization, after this industrialization, the periodic famines that used to plague Russia for a thousand years came to an end.
People stopped starving to death every time there was an environmental disaster because they had the modern uh technology and mechanized equipment to mitigate it and get much much higher yields than before.
So, this is what you're not understanding is that yes, there were famines before the collectivization efforts when Kulaks were hoarding grain and acting as speculators and the so-called market was allowed to be in command.
But that's an argument in favor of collectivization.
So now finally, I want to make the point.
If this was somehow a Jewish orchestrated thing, these were Jewish satanic people eating babies and they were all Jewish.
How do you explain the fact that the main personalities uh that were Jewish and Bolshevik leadership actually opposed Stalin's plans for collectivization?
They sided with Bukhara and the Khamenev Zenobiev block sided with Bukharin against Stalin's collectivization.
Trotsky was against Stalin's collectivization.
The Jews in the main were not in favor of it, even Yogoda was against Stalin on this.
So you're completely wrong.
Okay, sure.
Um Truth, uh, go ahead.
You've got an extra nine seconds uh for your rebuttal, which is gonna be uh two minutes and nine seconds.
Uh go ahead, Truth.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
Igoda and Yeshov were in on the deliberate starvation tactics used during the holodomir, but not just during the holodomir.
I mean, this was going on in the 1920s as well.
They were using starvation as a deliberate tactic to starve people to death because it was an easy way to kill people because they came in, they invaded with a vengeance to get back at the Gentiles for what they felt was uh, you know, that they're the anti-Semitism they'd been facing for centuries within Russia because they weren't allowed in because of all the misbehaviors and criminality that they'd been doing and the terrorist activities they were doing before 1914, before even uh before 1917, even because they're just committing so many acts of terrorism.
But once again, you only need to take my word for it.
It was Jacob De Hahn who actually Came in.
He was a Jew from America who came or before sorry, Holland, who came in and witnessed how many Jews there were in the jails for committing crimes.
They weren't even that badly treated or starving to death.
And they went off to Israel and did his own thing.
In terms of other testimony, like I said, our I'll remind the audience.
Eyewitnesses who have no reason to lie witnessed the Holodomir.
Arthur Kessler witnessed the Lodimir.
He was Jewish.
He's already dead.
He had no reason to lie.
And he was publishing his articles in real time.
And he got so disgusted with the policies of these satanic worshippers that he left.
He didn't want to have anything to do.
And he was a Marxist before he showed up in 1932.
And what what reason would Gareth Jones have to lie?
He was a Welsh journalist.
And do you know what happened to him?
He was killed in 1935 because the Jews paid off an assassin to take him out.
So that's what took place because they didn't want the truth to come out.
This is just another typical cover-up of the Jews because they never want to be held accountable for their crimes.
And of course, whether it was 7 million or 10 million, they want to make sure that number never comes out because it's above 6 million.
And that's a very special number to the Jews, because they love to use that as a pretext to be able to collect reparations to the state, where they collectively take from the Germans who weren't even around during World War II to having even been accused of any crimes because that's how these Jews were roll.
They they expect perpetual punishment from those they claim punish them, but they'll deny the crimes they've committed on those involved.
Let me tell you about another crime the Jews also committed against the Germans, the same Soviet Jews, and that's that they killed 11 million Germans after World War II and a rape two million of their women between 1945 and 48, which they uh actively denied because they engage in violent event denial, a crime in the United States.
Um go ahead for your two mass.
He's acting like these people never had any incentive to lie about the Soviet state and demonize it in every possible way.
When the Soviets committed the worst possible sin in the eyes of the global capitalist least, which was repudiate and completely destroy the debt that was enslaving Russia before they nationalized all their resources, they took the oil from the major oil conglomerates, they took all the wealth and resources back from the foreign capitalists.
So, of course, there's a huge monetary and financial and material incentive by the capitalist governments of the world to do everything in their power to have agents completely lie about what was going on in the Soviet Union.
You're conveniently leaving out other sources like Duranti uh Duranti, who uh completely Walter Duranti, who completely repudiates the narratives that you're talking about here that somehow there is some kind of uh uniquely atrocious thing going on uh because of the famine in 3233.
Finally, this idea that it was deliberate and it was a policy of deliberate starvation here.
He once again avoiding the elephants in the room, which is the question of the policy of collectivization was not supported by people like Yagoda.
Yagoda was not a friend of Stalin's, and Stalin actually had you go to shot.
If anything, the fact that Yogoda was ever in a position of power just goes to show that Stalin didn't even fully consolidate full and complete power over the uh the complete Soviet government.
He was someone who sided and was more sympathetic with Bukharin and that completely other block.
By the way, if you don't know who Bukharin is because you're illiterate, Bukharin didn't want collectivization.
He wanted market mechanisms to prevail in the countryside and basically allow the kulags to go run rampant.
Uh but despite that fact, this was causing a profound crisis uh in the Soviet Union because the fact that they couldn't feed their people, they weren't producing enough grain because they were hoarding it in the countryside.
There was no solution to this crisis other than collectivization in order to get the necessary capital to actually fund mechanization and modernization.
You're consistently ignoring the dire and pressing need to modernize and industrialize the economy, not just for the sake of avoiding famines in the future, but also building up the military necessary to resist future invasions like the Nazi invasion that did come in uh 1941.
Um, go ahead with the uh rebuttal.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
So now Russia and Germany actually had a non-aggression pact signed in 1939, and it was Russia that was gonna violate it through the operation Groza that uh was planned three months before there was even an operation Barbarossa for Germany was uh that ended up having to take a defensive position and protect their interests, otherwise, Russia was planning an invasion of Western Europe.
It's so funny to hear the USSR painted as a victim state, they have to spend all this money on arms when they were the aggressor.
Communism in and of itself is an aggressive, violent ideology.
Once again, that entails the violent overthrow of the establishment to then take control of the means of production, take the resources, asset strip it, and then decimate it essentially.
And that's essentially what the Jews in charge, those funded by the central bankers, such as Jacob Schiff, Max Warburg, Armin Hamber, Ashberg, etc.
were looking to do as a flip side to capitalism.
So this way they could create cold wars, finance both sides, and win.
The party doesn't talk about why doesn't he talk about Maxim Litvinov?
Who is he?
Or maybe he knows him better as Meyer Finkelstein.
He was the guy that was financing Stalin and the whole operation.
He was the guy Stalin had to answer to.
He was the arm of the Rothschilds, a name that rarely gets mentioned.
So he was the guy calling the shots.
And he got to stick around well longer than Stalin did, in fact.
Go figure.
Imagine that.
So we see who's actually in charge.
He's always been the Jewish banksters.
And he couldn't deny that they did take debt.
There was a landlease agreement for a billion, then 11 billion dollars more, because they couldn't even afford to defend themselves, much less be on the aggressive side, because they had to be financed by Jewish banksters who owned them just like they owned them in 1917, just like it was Henry Ford that had to come and teach him how to build tractors, cars, and cars and other infrastructure, because they couldn't do anything on their own.
That led to the starvation of their own people.
So whether you want to say it was deliberate or is because of an incompetence, it's on them because they were the leadership and they couldn't figure out how to do farming and feed their people.
But they actually did.
They were doing collectivization and stealing whatever it is they were making under the circumstances that they put themselves in deliberately because they jailed all of their specialists that knew how to do farming.
Okay, um, brilliant.
So we're gonna do the um concluding remarks on uh uh by has untruth 90 seconds.
Haz is gonna get an extra five seconds because uh truth on it, five seconds I mean 95 seconds, but it the concluding mark remarks by has untruth uh on is the Haldemar real and were Christians persecuted uh uh genocided.
Go ahead, uh 95 seconds.
First, he claims that it was a deliberate policy of starvation, then he's just claiming that it was just because they were incompetent and didn't know how to farm.
Which one is it?
You're completely contradicting yourself here, and it's totally incoherent.
And if you were correct that they were fundamentally incompetent and didn't know how to farm whatsoever, why was that the only actual famine that wasn't a direct cause of the war, which was the one that happened after World War II in 1947?
This was the only one that happened.
If they didn't know how to farm, you would have think the famine would have continued on for the rest of the 1930s, and it didn't.
It only happened once, and they quickly relieved it and it came to an end.
So you're completely wrong about that.
You're making the claim that the Soviets were planning a war of aggression against the Nazis before Operation Barbarossa.
There's zero evidence to substantiate that whatsoever.
You just totally pulled it out of your ass.
Now, why would the Soviet Union have developed the country so much, modernized it, gave people education, built up so much infrastructure, improved the quality of life so drastically as they did caloric consumption, literacy rates, healthcare, building twice as much hospitals that existed under the czars.
If the goal was to asset strip it and completely devastate and destroy it, the opposite happened.
They built a prosperous, thriving and and very powerful civilization, became the number two superpower in the entire world.
They did the opposite of what you were saying.
They didn't access strip it and devastated it, they built it up to become a nuclear armed superpower that made the entire established colonial world tremble in fear.
Now, the idea that Stalin was answering to anyone whatsoever is a joke, but the idea that he was answering to some random uh foreign Jewish banker or whatever you're talking about, it's just some random schizoid nonsense you pulled out of your ass.
Now, finally, the Soviets didn't take on debt in the 1930s and the uh or the 40s because Lend Lease was actually never paid back and it wasn't even decisive in winning the war's outcome, which I've demonstrated already.
Appreciate that.
Uh sorry, truth, truth, go ahead.
You've got 93 seconds for your concluding remarks on this specific topic, which is is the Holdomar real and were the Christians persecuted.
Well, in summary, yes, Lotomir was real based on eyewitness testimony, based on the decision of the courts, both in the Duma in Russia, and also in Ukraine.
So I don't know, Russia, why Russia would shoot itself in the foot, acknowledge a crime that would hurt its reputation when it was the USSR, if it wasn't actually true.
And that's of course, in addition to the witness testimony from Arthur Kessler and both Garrett Jones as well, who saw the exact same thing and documented in real time.
And uh it was unfortunately Gareth Jones's that led to Jarrett Jones' demise at the tender age of around 30 years old, because well, that's just what Jews do.
They like to sacrifice Gentiles, especially the ones that tell the truth.
She says, I have a bounty on my head for the same reason.
The Jews like to silence those who speak up against them, and they hired these types of Shaboskoy here to smear them, and he keeps telling me that I'm pulling stuff out of my rear end.
I've not even once insulted him, and that's fine.
So, in summary, we can conclude that Holodomir was absolutely happened.
And it wasn't even the first famine.
It was one of the biggest famines that took place.
There were so many of them, you lose track.
And there were absolutely Jews involved with it.
Now, has there been infighting among Jews?
Let's discuss that for a second.
Yes, there has.
Of course there has because they also operate as double agents.
Yagoda and Yeshov weren't executed because of the crimes they committed.
They were executed because they were double agents.
You go to is also a diamond, it was uh diamond smuggling as well, and he was subject to he was doing corruption.
He was a corrupt guy.
And so Stalin, you know, laid punishment for that reason because he was no longer loyal.
It wasn't because of the crimes that were committed.
So Jews will even double cross each other.
That's all that shows.
It's not because they're against the policies, they're all for it.
Appreciate that truth.
And that is the conclusion of round two.
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Is the Holdemar real?
And was it um the genocide of Christians?
I appreciate has and truth uh going through that.
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We got about 2500 here between Rumble and YouTube um watching live, and then we got another, I think you said 14 or 1300 here on the space.
So now it's it's good, uh good turnout, man, especially for something uh this topic, which is very um particular and uh you know direct, but is good.
For sure, I think there's a lot of people learning a lot of information, so uh really appreciate has and truth providing people with this uh debate.
The third topic is and has been something that's been covered by both of them in the previous uh aspects of the debate.
I'm gonna go for truth first, is and it's is communism Jewish.
And again, it'll be three minutes to lay down the foundation.
I think people appreciate that.
I got a message just saying three minutes to lay down the foundation of the argument, and then we'll go back to two minutes.
But yeah, truth, three minutes.
Um, you'll have to go with topic number three, which is is communism a Jewish construct.
Go ahead, truth.
As I explained before, it absolutely is because the Jews say it is.
So take them at their word.
Otherwise, you'll be anti-Semitic, right?
So Jews say it's communists.
I'll repeat a couple of the quotes I read earlier.
The Jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism.
That's the Dr. Oscar Levy.
Some may call it communism, but I call it what it is, Judaism.
That's Rabbi Stephen Weiss and Bobby Fish who said the exact same thing.
He had an IQ over 180.
I don't think anyone else has an IQ that high, and he recognized communism for what it was, a Jewish construct.
Now, in terms of uh actions, I always say, look at the actions or the actions of communism.
Well, we know the communist manifestos were drafted by Jews.
Karl Marx, Moses Mordecai Levy, of course, Moses S. And Frederick Engels was a Shaboskoy.
So, yes, it was uh drafted by Jews, both the Communist Manifesto and Daskapata.
We know that it was funded by Jews.
I've already named the bankers.
He can't name any other he thinks just things just happen magically and they're just not funded.
Oh no, they didn't need any funding.
People just work for free and otherwise, you know, they're willing to go kill for free.
Well, it didn't work that way.
Jacob Schiff, Max Warburg, of course, uh Armandhammer and Ashberg were the ones who funded common.
So Jews funded it, Jews are the ones who drafted it, and it was Rothschild, who was behind the whole time, enabling the whole thing as the head of the Federal Reserve at that time.
And of course, it was Jews that disproportionately benefited from it.
They're the ones who instituted the anti-Semitism law as soon as it came into power so they could protect themselves.
They were the ones who built up settlements for themselves in Ukraine.
They were the ones who carved out the Jewish oblast in 1934.
They are the ones who were sacrificing Gentiles, Christians, especially about a hundred million of them, killing over 200,000 priests and monks and destroying about 54,000 churches as well.
But you know what?
They didn't touch, they didn't touch any synagogues or Jewish community centers or Jewish schools.
Those were never touched in the secret language that they speak, Yiddish or Hebrew, Stalin could speak it all.
The leaders could essentially speak those languages.
They communicated very well with the Israeli leadership, as Stalin did when he talked to both Goldemar and David Ben Gurion.
So communism, yes, is absolutely a Jewish construct, and it's the flip side to Zionism.
They work together essentially to destroy countries, they're both expansionists, and they don't care about the Gentiles that they kill, just like the Israelis don't care about the Palestinians they killed.
The Soviet Jews don't care about any of the Russians, Kazakhs, Belarusians, or any of the Gentiles they killed there, and that's why I stand by it that communism is absolutely a Jewish construct.
Thank you.
I appreciate that truth.
Um you've got three minutes.
Go ahead with your rebuttal about is communism Jewish.
So he cites these random uh Jews that by the way, the Jew that he cited also claimed that uh that Nazism was actually Jewish in spirit, so he's not very reputable.
But there are far more Christian authorities, including popes like Pope Francis, as well as various Orthodox authorities, especially patriarchs that were under Soviet rule, and even before, like Patriarch Tikin, who said that Lenin had a Christian soul, especially the patriarchs that came afterwards.
It's more and more common for Christian authorities that were in proximity with communist movements to compare communism with Christianity, actually.
The modern day communist party of the Russian Federation, led by Gennady Zayuganov, actually constantly calls communism Christian in spirit, and he works in in tandem in collaboration with the Orthodox Church.
And it's not an uncommon view whatsoever in Russia today to compare the two.
So finding these random people that are claiming, oh, this or that is Jewish, uh Nazism is Jewish, communism is Jewish.
What about all the Christians who compare it to Christianity?
Now, finally, I want to make sure that everyone uh can catch this guy in his lie.
He said that Moses Hess wrote the communist manifesto.
The only person who was Jewish that had anything to do with the communist manifesto was Karl Marx.
Hess didn't have anything to do with it.
And as for who funded Karl Marx, he was funded by his Aryan friend Frederick Engels, who owned a factory, and there's letters that confirm Marx constantly asking his friend for money.
Marx also worked as a journalist on the side.
He wasn't funded by any bankers whatsoever.
Speaking of bankers like Jewish uh Jacob Schiff that he's mentioning, well, uh U.S. Department of Files actually confirmed that investment banker Jacob Schiff was actually against the Bolshevik regime.
He supported the February Revolution, not the Bolshevik Revolution.
Two distinct events.
Uh the idea that the 200,000 priests were killed is nonsense because there wasn't even 200,000 priests before the Bolshevik Revolution uh in the first place.
There wasn't even that many that existed.
The Jewish religion was persecuted by special departments that were meant to modernize the Jewish uh community under the Soviet government.
And that's a fact that the atheism was promoted wholesale, not just against Christians but also against Jews.
The Soviets were consistent opponents of Zionism, they condemned Zionism, Stalin condemned Zionism as a reactionary movement of bourgeois nationalism.
The Soviet press constantly denounced the Zionist efforts, and the Soviet government was actually the one that exposed the Balfour Declaration, which was supposed to be uh secret, actually the Sykes Picot, which was supposed to be secret.
And uh they they constantly said that the international capitalist class was trying to create uh and traffic all the Jews into Palestine.
So they were exposing that and completely opposed to it.
So he's completely lying about that.
Now, regarding the UN uh vote to partition Palestine and that happened in 1947 and the Soviet role and that I can get into it.
But no, communism is not fundamentally Jewish, and it's ridiculous to assert that when the overwhelming majority of communists who have ever existed were not Jewish.
There were some prominent uh uh Jewish involvement in the socialist movements in Europe and Western Europe in the late 1800s and early 1900s, but throughout the rest of the 20th century, you're seeing Africa, Middle East, uh, Asia, you know.
You say yeah, okay, sure.
Appreciate that.
Um, truth, your rebuttal, you get an extra five seconds, it'll be two minutes and five seconds.
Go ahead, truth.
Sure, yeah, thank you.
Stalin was an absolute friend of the Zionists and the Jews.
The weapons he took from Germany in 1945, he gave to the Zionist Jewish gangs.
He was smuggling them through Czechoslovakia to help them to wipe out and kill Palestinians.
He claims to care about clearly he doesn't know Stalin that well.
And why would the USSR vote in favor of a Jewish state?
And why would they convince five other countries in eastern Europe to do the same if they weren't Zionists?
And why were they bringing in the foreign why were the first country to recognize Israel?
Why is it that Goldamayer was the foreign minister to the USSR if they weren't Zionists?
Why is it David Ben Gurin was congratulating Stalin for 33 years of communist devastation because he looked forward to doing the exact same thing to the Palestinians?
Because hey, Jewish minds think alike.
Let's go kill off the natives of the land, steal the land for ourselves, asset strip it, and get rich quick, essentially.
Now let's talk about some more about uh the famines that were taking place, led essentially by Jews.
In fact, there was absolute discrimination.
Naftali Frankl was one of the popular gulag administrators.
Stalin had a particular favoritism towards him because he came up with the idea of the nutrition scale cycle that essentially entailed starving off the least productive slave in the gulag, but then rewarding the most productive one with the meal.
So if he didn't work hard enough as a slave, making nothing essentially and going back to your shoebox of an apartment, you'd be slowly starved to death.
This was Neftali Frankel.
When he got caught trying to escape before he became gulag administrator, he was with like three other Gentiles.
You know what happened to the Gentiles?
They were executed.
What happened to uh Neftali Frankel?
He be he got rewarded because you see there was a preferential treatment when it came to Jews, and he was one of Stalin's favorites because he starved off so many Gentiles because that's just what they do by design.
Now, going back in general to speak about uh Zionism and communism and whether it's oh, yeah, he mentioned uh Karl Marx as well.
I never said that Moses has wrote the communist manifesto.
I said they collaborated.
Of course, it was both Engels and Moses Mordecai Levy.
Call him by his Jewish name.
Why do the Jews always change their name?
Ten seconds.
Why is that?
What do they have to hide?
Vladimir Lenin is Vladimir Williamov Blunt.
Did you know that his grandfather on his maternal side was actually a Jew and he tried to change his name?
Why is uh Stalin changed his name for to Yakub Jukish Philip to just tell him?
Appreciate that truth.
Um has uh for your rebuttal, you've got um an extra four seconds, uh, two minutes and four seconds.
Go ahead, has yep, sure.
So regarding the Czechs who smuggled weapons to the Zionists, they were actually shot in the Slansky trial, and this was leading up to the anti-Zionist purges that were happening under the late Stalin government when they were finding out that there was uh an attempt of by Zionists to infiltrate the communist aligned governments.
So the Czechs who smuggled weapons weren't doing it on behalf of Stalin, they were doing it in secret, and they were shot for it.
Now, the Soviets did not support Zionist ideology.
What they supported was a joint Arab Jewish state with equal rights, not an exclusively Jewish one.
And they were being completely lied to by people like Ben Gurion, when in reality it was the Urg and Lehi terrorists that were actually in control.
And the Soviets caught wind of this, they supported efforts to actually sabotage the Lehi and Urugua nationalist fascist terrorists and completely sabotage them at every turn.
There were Jews in the gulag who were sent to the gulags.
If the gulags were just meant for Gentiles, why were there thousands of Jews in them?
And the notion of the slave stuff of killing off the weakest, again, you just pulled it out of your ass.
Uh, sorry to hurt your feelings.
The per capita rate of people in the gulags in the Soviet Union, by the way, has never actually surpassed the one that exists right now.
They were the worst thing ever.
They were bad conditions when the uh material conditions overall in the Soviet Union were bad.
It was never the intention to torture anyone sadistically.
And by the way, Jews were regularly executed, but that doesn't matter to you because you're just gonna pin that to Jewish infighting.
How convenient.
It's a complete uh way to avoid the illogical inconsistencies in your arguments.
Uh, Marx wasn't even fundamentally Jewish besides his blood and his antressy, which shows that for Jew for you, Judaism is a racial thing.
Marx was raised as a Lutheran, he was a devout follower of Christ before studying under Hegel, an Arian, and it was actually Hegel who inspired him to abandon religion.
And if you don't understand the background of Hegelianism, how that was so fundamental to Marx's transformation, you're emphasizing people like Moses Hess, who Marx and Engels regularly made fun of and didn't respect and had nothing to do with the communist manifesto, it's ridiculous.
Moreover, it's a widespread myth that Lenin's grandfather was Jewish.
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Uh for your rebuttal, glad truth.
Uh that's amusing that he didn't know about it, but his sister knew about it.
Lenin's sister knew, and in fact, wrote a letter about it and knew that her grandfather maternal side was Jewish.
Lenin absolutely knew as well.
So and he and look at his physiognomy, he looks like a Jew.
Now, with respect to Karl Marx, why did he change his name from uh Moses Mordecai Levy?
Why was he given a Jewish name if the plan was to become a Lutheran and then just abandon religion altogether?
It's a little confusing.
What's going on here?
Maybe it's under the guise of pretending to be atheists, pretending to be Lutheran, because well, that's the only way you can really get ahead.
Because at that time, Jews were subject to different types of treatments because they kept getting caught committing criminal activities as they've been doing for 2,000 plus years, and that's the reason why they've been kicked out of 109 countries, 1,034 times from various crimes entailing things such as usury, spreading degeneracy and filth, uh pushing atheism, and of course, uh now of course communism, one of the main Jewish constructs.
That's the whole Point of today's debate.
So once again, there was no answer about the Neftali Frankel that I mentioned.
He was the one who came up with the starvation tactics in the 1920s.
This was this had nothing to do with say, oh, a crop failure or whatnot, and to claim that it was natural.
No, it wasn't natural causes.
They were deliberate starvation tactics to kill off the population.
And in fact, it got to a point where even though they'd allowed for abortion, they actually had to ban abortion.
I think it was close to that.
I'll get the exact date.
Around the 1950s, right after around World War, not just World War II, even it ran close to the 1930s because they were running out of people because they killed so many.
I believe it was after 1936.
He said, Well, we got to stop on the abortions.
We need more people.
We've killed too many.
So that's an obvious indicator.
Not only did the holotomy's and all the famines take place, they killed too many people, and they ended up having to take people out of jail to help them out with farming to help them out with things they just weren't able to do.
Because again, the Jews that were there didn't understand anything about engineering, building infrastructure.
They relied on slave labor and help from the likes of Henry Ford, help from the Germans, of course, through the Treaty of Apollo, and of course, help from the Germans through Operation Vladimir when they brought in 200 scientists to help them build things because they couldn't do anything on their own, unlike during the time of the Tsar, where they weren't dependent on others to build things for themselves.
Thanks for the truth.
Um, and then let's go to um had two minutes for your rebel.
Yeah, well, there we have proof that Lenin was actually a sincere uh sorry, that Marx was actually a sincere Christian in his youth because he would write poems about Jesus, he would talk about Jesus and and how much he was sincere about his faith.
No one was forcing him to do that.
His father did convert to Christianity.
Maybe it was because to avoid the restrictions that were placed on Jews, maybe it wasn't.
But we know that Marx was a sincere Christian, and he was actually a student and disciple of the Christian German philosopher George Hegel.
So you don't know anything about Hegel because you don't read books, but if you did, you would understand why Marx made the transition to communism as a consequence of his study under Hegel.
Now, the the notion that uh Frankel somehow proves that there was Jewish control.
Frankel was appointed by Yagoda and Frankel was one of the gulag administrators, but Yogoda was actually shot and he was removed from power.
Frankel was also removed from power.
So what does that prove?
How could these people be in power if they're being removed?
You're gonna peg that up to Jewish infighting.
What was the infighting about then?
Explain it to us concretely.
The notion that Lenin's sister knew that he was Jewish, yeah, that was the source of the claim that people make that uh Lenin's grandfather Alexander Blank, who was a vulgar German and Tatar was Jewish, but that's a complete fabrication, and there's no evidence for it.
Now, the notion about um Henry Ford, uh, them needing Henry Ford, every single industrialized country in the world relied upon the accumulation accumulated scientific knowledge of mankind.
Nobody just creates the whole inventions of mankind by scratch.
Henry Ford relied upon the inventions of the British engineers and scientists that came before him, and they in turn were uh relied upon the inventions that came before them.
The idea that they were engaging in trade practices where they were getting mechanized equipment and cars and stuff, they weren't taking this out on credit, they weren't doing it, they were it wasn't being given to them for free.
They had to pay for it on the international market, and they had to do it to speed up industrialization.
They only had 10 years, and the 10 years later, what would we see?
We see the German invasion.
So they had to do it.
And the notion that um trading for foreign machinery and foreign technology to rapidly assist and prop up your own industrialization, modernization efforts.
What's wrong with that?
It's good.
No country on the world can just invent everything from scratch.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
So we're gonna do concluding remarks on this uh topic, which is and we're gonna go to truth.
Truth is gonna get uh it's gonna be it's a 90 seconds, but obviously I'm gonna give truth an extra nine seconds because it has one over that.
So it'll be one minute and thirty-nine seconds for your truth on the third topic, which is communism Jewish.
Uh, go ahead, truth for your concluding remarks on this topic.
So, in conclusion, communism is absolutely Jewish.
Jewish scholars have stated this.
Bobby Fisher stated this, one of the smartest chess players in the world who was ethnically Jewish, of course.
And uh, we will look at the actions one more time.
Of course, communism was drafted by Jews, Moses Mordekailevi.
Yeah, yeah, Marx was such a devout Christian.
But then he became an atheist.
So he went from writing songs about Christ to disavowing him.
A little confused.
Who knows what he was on?
Perhaps it was because he was getting funded by the Rothschild.
I have the actual copies of the checks he received.
So maybe he was actually devoted to money first, like a typical Jew.
And he absolutely did collaborate with Moses Hess, in addition to you know, then drafting both the Communist Manifesto and also Das Capital on how to screw over Gentile countries because the Jews just don't really like to work.
None of the so-called proletariats were even factory workers.
Most of them were just writers.
Both Stalin and Lenin were writers just living off real tees from their books.
They never got their hands dirty.
What did they even know about the fact that a factory worker in general?
But now, this whole need to even need communism in the first place.
There was never a need.
Because again, during the Tsar's reign, things were great.
He created a top four economy around the world with advanced labor rights, according to well, a US president who came to visit William Howard Taft, who had nothing but good things to say and high praise about the incredibly advanced, sophisticated and benevolent labor system the SAR had established for all of his citizens who we viewed as equals.
And people could advance very quickly if they just worked hard on merit, but didn't even need to work as hard because taxes were so low at only two percent.
There's hardly any inflation, hardly any unemployment, and they were mass exporters of almost every major agricultural product, industrial product that was out there.
They were already industrialized, but when the Soviets showed up, they couldn't figure anything out for themselves, and that's why they failed visibly and starved people off.
Appreciate that.
Um and then has a nine two 92 seconds for your uh concluding remarks on is communism Jewish.
Sure.
Far more Christian scholars and far more actual heads of Christian churches, including the Pope, claim that the essence of communism is actually Christian.
So that outweighs any of the fringe and marginal people he's trying to cite that were Jewish claiming this.
There's no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Marx was funded by the Ross Childs.
It didn't even make sense, by the way.
And yes, Marx became an atheist just like Frederick Engels did, who is an Aryan and also a Christian, and that was because of their engagement with Hegelian philosophy and the young Hegelians.
There was nothing Jewish about the young Hegelian movement.
You don't know about these things because you don't read books.
Uh Moses Hess had nothing to do with Daskop at all.
I doubt you could even cite a single sentence from the Capitol because you've probably never even read.
Not only have you not read Capital, you probably never read a single page of that book.
Stop talking about it if you don't even you're not even familiar with the basics.
Um you're coping about czarist Russia being some kind of like advanced lost Atlantean civilization which had spaceships and was like this beautiful paradise or whatever.
It was a total shithole.
Majority of people lived no different than slaves and were treated basically as cattle.
One in four of all babies that were born died, and it was basically a total shithole.
And this first opportunity that the majority of people got to rise up and depose the state, they took it right away because that's how this discontented they were with it.
This was beginning with the revolutionary movements in the late 19th century, which was because the peasants were just starting to spontaneously rebel against the state and the government, even in the middle of the 19th century.
Just discontented they were with it.
This was beginning with the revolutionary movements in the late 19th century, which was because the peasants were just starting to spontaneously rebel against the state and the government, even in the middle of the 19th century.
So it was deeply unpopular, and they overthrew it.
It was very popular that revolution they had.
I appreciate that.
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Is it uh um who won round three?
Which is is communism Jewish?
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So here's the link, guys.
You guys can join in.
Alright, I'm dropping a link for you guys in there.
So you guys can still listen to the space on Twitter.
Alright.
Um, but I'm gonna be on tomorrow at uh at four with uh Viva Frey.
Okay, guys.
So how the fuck you have a 200k setup and have mic issues?
Um Raruka, in case you didn't realize retard, um, that's Twitter.
That's not me.
It's not my setup, it's Twitter.
Twitter on web is very bad.
It's very bad.
Okay, that's why everyone, it's widely known that Twitter's fucking terrible uh on PC.
It's good on computer, sorry, it's good on phone, terrible for PC.
So that's the problem, dude.
So yeah, dude's a fucking dumbass.
You got 200k setup, what isn't working?
Stupid ass thing, it's Twitter.
It's the platform itself, retard.
Twitter's meant to be used with your phone.
Uh anyway, yeah.
So yeah, guys, I will um I will be back on tomorrow, 4 p.m. with Viva Frey.
Love you, ninjas.
Peace out, man.
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