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How are you doing, Tony?
You doing good?
I'm decent.
I'm decent.
Long weekend.
I think everyone's got a long weekend this weekend for some reason.
I think that we were spoiled on Memorial Day.
We got to love our country real hard, and we're being punished for that a week later.
I feel like that's what everyone's experiencing this weekend.
Yeah, long weekend, you mean hard weekend.
Our arduous weekend.
Exactly, thank you.
Not an actual weekend.
Yeah.
Because I did have a long weekend last weekend, and it was great.
This weekend, I'm doing nothing but labor.
And I couldn't...
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Let's start the show here.
Tony, did you hear about this?
Did you hear that it seems that a lot of voters, they like popular things.
Have you heard about this?
I've heard that popular things are quite...
That's what I've heard.
I haven't seen the data, but I believe it.
I believe it.
It's becoming normalized to like popular things.
It's kind of scary.
It's new.
It's exciting, I know.
But what does it mean for our future?
Are we in danger of getting popular things?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I think the popular things don't actually exist.
But we're getting mass hysteria into thinking that we want popular things just because they're popular.
I believe that.
I believe that.
It's all a trick.
That's why I don't listen to certain bands once they're big enough.
Once they're big, I'm like, no, you're no good to me now.
I can't trust it.
like Sleep Token.
Sleep Token was really good back when they were real heavy and hard-hitting metalcore, and now that they're kind of popular, it's just like...
Big snooze fest, you know?
Soft.
Yeah, they sold out.
You know, they used to be for the scene, for the people.
Yeah.
Their singer, like what?
Like wearing a solid gold mask instead of the white one he used to wear.
Oh wait, they wear masks?
I'm so peripheral.
They wear masks too?
Yeah, he's like he's like he's an anonymous singer like his name His name is Vessel, because he's just a conduit, I think.
That's amazing.
vessel tang.
Like the thing is you can't, you can't trust a hardcore band with an anonymous, with an anonymous lead singer because you need the ego.
You need the guy to...
You can't be mysterious in this way.
I think it's a good idea, though, because it makes it harder to bring forward allegations of sexual misconduct or DMing minors if you don't actually know the identity.
How can you arrest somebody?
It's kind of like anonymous.
It's kind of cool, actually.
You know there's people out there who are DMing minors using just the mask and pretending to be Vessel?
I think that, like, just generally speaking, if your band has a mask gimmick, there is, like, a 99.9999% chance they suck ass and they're bad.
I like how we're like, Vessel, that's so stupid.
A human furnace, on the other hand.
Well, that's just a nickname.
That's just a nickname, and that's cool.
That's not like his pen name, you know?
We're instantly defending it.
Just like, no, no, no, that's not the same thing.
Listen, I've shared a jacuzzi with the Human Furnace.
I know that motherfucker.
He owns a tattoo studio.
He's not afraid to put his name out there.
Hell yeah.
Anyway, though, however, yeah, the sleep token of politics, Democrats.
They should really lead into that.
Look at Chuck Schumer right here.
Chuck Schumer right here.
You know he's thinking about some baller lyric.
Like, my Facebook popping off like bottles of champagne.
So good.
So good.
He looks like he's ready to like...
My soul is a freezer filled with cold cuts.
Whatever those lyrics were again.
I shouldn't know this.
I shouldn't know about these lyrics.
Wait, those are actual lyrics too, huh?
I don't get it, man.
Let me pull up the cold cuts lyric.
Does he make a reference to beef?
I mean cold cold cuts are oh beef like Room feels like a meat freezer.
I dangle in, like, cold cuts.
Missed calls, answer phones from people I just don't trust.
Mirror talk, fake love, but I'll take a pound of your flesh before you take a piece of my paste up.
That's not healthy.
I just realized That's crazy.
I did not realize that they were like...
Oh, I don't know.
I think it's just, it's poetry.
You know, you tap into, like, dangerous parts of yourself and allow them, allow that expression, you know?
We don't, uh, don't want to judge too harshly.
That's not what a cold cut is.
Yeah, butchers just slice cold cuts.
They don't hang them.
Like, it's wrong.
I lay the wax on the turntable like cold cuts, you know, because they're on wax paper.
I don't know.
I'm still workshopped.
I just came up with it right now.
Like cutting the record, like scratching.
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Okay, so I don't know like if you're if you're not online or if you're not paying attention to internal Democrat politics, you might not know about a The abundance agenda?
Do you know about the abundance agenda, Tony?
No, no one's let me know about the abundance.
I've only heard rumors that it might exist.
So in the wake of massive Democratic failures, the Democratic Party brand being utter dog shit, like 6% of people have faith in the Democratic Party, like the Democratic Party is less popular than the Republican Party, I believe?
Might be like a first in my, you know, I don't know, my adult life.
And so there's this, you know, there's a movement among these people who were already in the Democratic Party advising and writing about what the Democratic Party should do and defending the Democratic Party, etc., etc., who say, hey, we know how to fix the Democratic Party.
Hey, we know what those guys did wrong.
Meanwhile, you know, I've been like a fucking senior editor at a liberal newspaper for the last 10 years or whatever, cheerleading these fucking ghouls the whole time.
And what they've come up with, you know, because a lot of people, they're like, hey, maybe we shouldn't support the genocidal, fascistic ethnostate in the Middle East.
Hey, maybe we shouldn't put Republican neocons in our cabinet.
Hey, maybe we shouldn't team up with corporations in Silicon Valley to put economic growth as the pillar of what we can achieve as a people rather than helping people directly.
And that's kind of dangerous stuff.
Those are dangerous ideas that definitely aren't good and probably aren't popular.
And instead, what is popular is abundance, Tony!
We all we all want abundance.
We all want frickin And the problem is we're not letting corporations do those things.
That's the thing.
We need to get out of corporate America's way.
Let them thrive.
Because they're doing great, obviously.
You know, they're doing better.
I know more people that have Teslas than have...
Right.
Boom.
Boom.
Yeah, and I think we can all learn something from corporations, which is to just, yeah, let them do whatever they want.
Unfortunately, it seems like Democratic voters don't like this idea because a new poll found that Democratic voters prefer populism over, quote, abundance.
i'm reading here from axios uh democratic voters prefer a populist message over one that focuses on an quote abundance agenda according to a new poll by demand progress why it matters democrats are asking themselves some hard questions as they ponder how they lost the 2024 election and consider how they might win in 2028 on the on the economic front some elected officials like representative Jake Auchincloss
Democrat from Massachusetts wants to embrace a version of the, quote, abundance agenda that liberal writers Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson lay out in a new book titled Ahem, Abundance.
Klein gave voice to the abundance argument at a policy retreat for Senate Democrats this month.
And there are other lawmakers who do like this Democrat from Massachusetts.
who do want to embrace the abundance agenda, such as I believe it was the Colorado governor who just vetoed a bill that would ban surprise ambulance fees for patients, for people undergoing medical emergencies.
And also, I think vetoed a vetoed a bill that would ban, if not back page, then back page.
Because, listen, if we don't let corporations do whatever they want, they're going to get mad at us.
They're going to get really mad at us, and then they might start profiting off of us even more.
That's so wild, because it's something I truly believe in.
I think that if more Americans knew that ambulances were a privatized thing, and that EMTs don't get paid enough money, and that it has nothing to do with anything, we have zero say in ambulances, I think if people would realize that, they would maybe become a little more radicalized.
But they have no idea.
I mean, more people are becoming aware.
Bernie Sanders touted this message a lot.
An ambulance ride is automatically $1,000.
If you have to go to the hospital, it's just like $1,000 out of pocket because insurance companies often won't cover those ambulance bills.
But even in that discussion, it's like, okay, well, that's just what it costs for the government to do that.
But it's not the government.
It's the government allowing private companies to do that.
And like, that's so wild that we let like a, like a third party be responsible for making sure you're alive from the emergency to the hospital.
And like, it's just like, so.
And they're not.
Like, they don't have those, like, same...
I don't know, that same...
Yeah, public control.
And it's like, it's shocking when people realize that.
It's like, oh, that's...
That's just like somebody started a company and gets to do that now?
Alright, cool.
Yeah, but I mean, that's like what these guys like.
They love it when companies own the things that everybody needs to use.
It's like when...
The New York Democratic mayor, hopeful, you know, the leftist guy who's running for New York mayor and actually might win against Andrew Cuomo, which is insane that they let Andrew Cuomo back into New York politics.
When he's talking about a rent freeze or rent hike, or I'm sorry, a rent freeze or rent stabilization, you get people who are like, yeah, it sounds, having, you know, low rent or stable rent, Sounds good in theory, but then all the people who own the homes, they're not going to want to rent them anymore.
And it's like, okay, so you just described a reason we shouldn't allow them to own all the homes.
A great reason.
These people will just straight up tell you why organizing housing around the profit motive is a bad idea in order to somehow dissuade you from lightly regulating.
The housing market.
They can't take any dose of reality on this and they'll just give the whole game away.
Similarly, health insurance is a lot like that.
Why would we ever allow privateers and profiteers to insert themselves into these systems of organization?
The only answer is the people who are arguing for this benefit from them being there.
Either they get paid by these right-wing or centrist think tanks, they get supported by it, or they benefit directly from it because they're landlords or because they have stocks and privatized healthcare or whatever.
Going back here to the Axios article about this poll, Other party leaders want to focus their energy on challenging President Trump on the populist front.
And so you're like, okay, that's interesting.
What do they mean by populism here?
And they say, think of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer trying to dare Republicans to vote against tax cuts for billionaires.
And I was like, what?
He's daring Republicans to vote against tax cuts for billionaires?
Why would they want to vote against tax cuts for billionaires?
How are you daring?
They're just going to vote for the tax cuts.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And so I had to click through the article to see what they were talking about.
And Chuck Schumer's big plan as of February 18th of this year to...
His big plan was adding amendments to that bill that won't pass in order to make Republicans look bad.
The article is scoop Schumer looks to jam Republicans on Musk and billionaires.
Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer plans to use this week's budget votes to force Republicans to choose between defending tax.
And I was like, how are they going to be defying him?
what are you talking about?
And so these amendments, You can also expect an amendment blocking the GOP from changing tax rates if they cut funding from Medicare or Medicaid.
So he's, like, gonna add an amendment that if you do one of Trump's things, like cutting Medicare, then you can't do the other Trump thing, like cutting taxes.
Okay.
And then the very next sentence is, zoom in.
None of these Democratic force amendments will pass, but Schumer's goal is to make GOP senators own as many of the cuts and freezes as possible, or put them on the wrong side of a president who demands total loyalty.
Again, I don't understand this tactic, but it does seem to be, like, I think I understand it more than I did before, because it really does, it would make sense if, like, This is what Democrats have been doing the whole time to fight back against Trump,
is like putting a symbolic amendment on a bill or like trying to move an amendment forward that says, if I vote for this, I'm a big stinky Russian traitor.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the Republicans just vote down the amendment anyway.
I'm like, oh, okay, that's what they've been doing.
They've been putting bumper stickers on the bill that say, this is a bad bill, and then Republicans just peel it off before it's even dried.
Yeah, it's like a honk of your horny bumper sticker.
They're honking, oh, you didn't see I had this sticker on my car, and now you're saying that you're horny.
Yeah, and I'm a guy, so you're gay, actually.
And what's amazing, too, is some of these things they're putting in there are seemingly good things, but they're not even trying to do those on their own.
They're only trying to do that to weasel it in here and try to use it against Republicans.
They're not doing it for anybody else.
They're just doing it to make the Republicans look bad?
Yeah, that's so stupid.
They're already on the record supporting this bill.
They'll be on the record voting for it when it eventually goes to the Senate.
For whatever reconciliation, I don't understand this tactic at all, or I don't understand putting this much effort into that tactic.
Like you're not even delaying anything.
It doesn't seem like.
According to like other outlets that are like the American Prospect, which is an outlet that I like.
They say there are ways to actually prevent this bill from going through because you could.
issues that you're going to bring up every day, which require 10 hours of deliberation.
And I think Democrats like Chuck Schumer would rather just have some signs printed out.
That they can display on an easel in front of the Capitol building and be like, Trump is bad for working families, and then go home, not have to spend an actual 10 hours there.
But yeah, getting into the actual poll here, a survey of 1,200 registered voters by Demand Progress, a progressive advocacy organization, was designed to supply some hard data for the debate.
It defined the abundance argument by starting off with this sentence.
Quote, the big problem is bottlenecks that make it harder to produce housing, expand energy production, or build new roads and bridges.
Yeah, the abundance agenda is wondering, why don't Democrats want to deregulate the oil industry further?
I don't understand.
I don't get it.
Yeah, here's the full section from the poll.
Abundance.
The big problem is, quote, bottlenecks that make it harder to produce housing, expand energy production, or build new roads and bridges.
Frequently, these bottlenecks take the form of well-intended regulations meant to give people a voice or to protect the environment, but these regulations are exploited by organized interest groups and community groups to slow things down.
This is another thing about the abundance agenda is this is like their big enemy are the groups.
And what they mean when they say the groups is they mean anyone except a corporation.
Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like actual people.
Actual people coming together, like unions or community groups or environmental groups, rights groups.
These are the nefarious forces of our times, the scary groups.
Why can't they just be normal and form an LLC?
Yeah, I mean, you don't need a group.
You just need a lawyer to represent you.
Like, you don't need a group.
You just need, like, a lobbyist.
Like, what are you doing?
This increases costs and makes it harder for us to provide for everybody's needs.
We need to push back against these groups so the government and economy can work better for working and middle-class Americans.
If a candidate for Congress or president made the abundance argument, would that make you more likely or less likely to vote for him?
Like, and I'm not...
To me, this seems like a no-brainer, but I don't blame Democrats for having to actually put forward a poll to their voters saying, would you vote for Ronald Reagan?
Yeah.
That is an important thing to know about your vote.
That is an important distinction to make.
Do you think that we should just get government out of the way?
And let the makers and the job creators in this society do what they fucking do best, which is provide services and goods for everybody.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I know libs have...
local parties.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's funny, too, because it's that whole thing where it's like, this is basically just, like, marketing, you know?
And you're just going to kind of like a little idiot and being like, how do you feel about abundance?
Doesn't that sound like a good thing?
I don't know.
I think it sounds like you're going to have a lot of stuff.
Like a lot of it.
Doesn't that sound great?
Do you want that?
That's all it is?
It's just a way to candy-candy coat something?
It sounds like they're doing the same thing they've always done.
It sounds like nothing's really changed except they're calling it abundance.
Actually, I'm a communist.
They're admitting it's not the populist thing.
Yes.
Actually, I'm a communist, and I don't think we should own anything, ever.
And we'll be happy from owning nothing.
Zero.
Do you guys want abundance, or do you guys want what this guy is selling?
Despair.
It looks like you only got two choices here.
Okay, so this is the description that the poll gave about abundance, and this is the description that they gave for populist.
For underpopulist message, the big problem is that big corporations have way too much power over our economy and our government.
They work to prevent the government from making investments in things like expanding access to affordable clean energy, housing, and infrastructure improvements so that they can maximize their own profits.
I don't know about a corporation wanting to maximize profits.
That doesn't sound like the community service that I'm used to seeing corporations pursue.
No, no.
If that was the case, I don't think the people in their commercials would be so excited to work for them.
If you go after profits, your company's just going to fail because what people want are from their corporations and the promise that corporations make to us is that of personal values.
It just sucks that we have to consider abundance instead of the corporations.
Have the corporations considered abundance instead of doing this other stuff they're doing?
Totally.
I just want abundance for them, too.
Like, I don't need abundance for me.
I need abundance for corporations because they're going to pass it down.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Trickle down is going to work out this time.
Corporations also try to raise prices by as much as they can, which is easier than ever because the economy is so concentrated in the hands of just a few people.
This is like something that would work on a Republican.
This is like such clear-cut.
Obvious, good messaging that of course it's a danger to the capitalist class.
Of course they don't want to see this.
They hate to see this winning.
We need to hold these corporations accountable and reduce their power so the government and economy can work better for working and middle class Americans.
If a candidate for Congress or President made the populist argument, would that make you more or less likely to vote for them?
Okay, so here we get into some criticisms, some reactions from these Abundance people, like Nurut Bech, who says, this is not a credible poll.
It was commissioned by a progressive grupa.
I think they mean group.
It makes it sound like an exotic resistance group, you know?
A progressive grupa, and gave a critical description of the Abundance agenda.
The question praised regulation and a boosterist description of populism.
Corporations are bad.
Do you agree?
So I think, yeah, again, the main problem they have, they don't think it's fair that populism is popular.
Yeah, it's funny because abundance is like a new idea that they're putting out here.
It's not just the definition of abundance, you know?
But populism is a very well-established idea and word.
And we're talking about democracy, and it's funny that we're having a discussion about, hey, do you want the thing where the people get what they want, or do you want this other thing where you kind of let us do our thing?
And we're still debating over that?
they're not giving a, they're not giving a, a wrong description of, of populism.
No.
And I think you could give like a, But there are ways that you could tarnish the idea of populism.
They do that via the Trump administration.
They call Trump a populist.
They call Trump's economic policies populist.
And we've talked about this, what the right wing considers populist, such as getting the government off the backs of regular America.
They try to frame that as populism.
Or they gin up hatred of specific groups like immigrants or trans people or gay people, and then they say, well, we're just doing what the people want.
The people can't stop thinking about trans people and your genitals in general, and so we just got to go along with it.
And so liberals have this good straw man for populism.
try and discredit populist but they're not even trying to do that here they're whining that the actual economic populism that left and democratic voters recognize as populism as popular ideas are just too popular yeah um and it's funny because in this critique they gave a critical description of the abundance agenda the question praised regulation uh
They're like accusing this poll of saying that the abundance movement actually likes regulation when they don't.
So it was confusing for them or something.
And it's like, if you read this, it's very clearly a charitable...
Thank description of abundance because the abundance people would never say we hate regulations for the environment and we and all government regulations are bad because there are their audience are liberals who know the benefits of government regulations and know the benefit of environmental protections so they they framed it very charitably in my opinion like the way a spin an abundant spin doctor would say hey these regulations
Stupid idiot groups, they wanted these regulations, but they didn't know the ramifications of the regulations.
you know it's it's very hard to engage with this stuff as an abundance person and make any sense i think it's really leaning on that whole idea that like Yeah, exactly.
That's what this whole thing is based on.
It's like, no, people are dumb.
That's why I'm a politician, so I can take care of the people.
Yeah, it's like a liberal technocratic view of governance where all it takes is somebody who's willing to shuck their party for the practical solutions and how little tweaks here and there are all we need to perfect this system, which is already great.
It's just maybe been drifting in the wrong direction or something like that.
But we don't need to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
More responses here from Adam Gentleson.
So this is the guy who was hiding John Fetterman's derangement.
For like a year on behalf of Israel, who finally came out and was like, actually, the whole time I was working for him, I was saying, this is bad.
This guy's going to kill somebody or himself.
But I couldn't say it.
You know, I wrote it down in my private diary for proof that I'm a good person later that I could leak to a reporter.
However, I did let John Fetterman get behind the.
But he's now an abundance guy, apparently.
And he quotes somebody else who says, they don't include the full question text anywhere in this Axios article, but from the included line alone, I'd bet you a dollar that respondents don't understand what you mean by bottlenecks here.
Okay, so going back to the description of abundance, the big problem is, quote, bottlenecks that make it harder to produce housing, expand energy production, or build new roads and bridges.
Okay, so not only is the word bottlenecks, in quotes, because it's an abundance word, it is a word used in this abundance book instead of red tape, which is the age-old cliche that these people have always been using.
They've always used red tape to try and trick people into thinking cutting government services is somehow going to make things better for themselves.
So the Abundance rebrand goes hand in hand with the bottleneck rebrand, with the rebrand of red tape.
But it's not fair for you to use that word because that's not the word that people typically use, despite the fact that they define it.
Yeah.
They define it right after they say it, and I don't, like, bottleneck just sounds like, huh, that sounds like a narrowing of possibility.
It sounds like things may be getting stuck in a pileup or something like that.
Like, anybody who's driven a car knows what a fucking bottleneck is.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyone who's drinking from a bottle knows what a bottleneck is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Adam quote tweeted this and said, this is a good example of how groups cook polls.
Candidates typically say, quote, cut red tape, which probably performs better than just bottlenecks, but the group massages the question wording, gets the outcome they want, and board reporters write it up as if it's something.
And it's just like, do you think Democrats Man, they would have been raring to hear red tape.
Cutting red tape in the message, but they got tricked into hearing bottlenecks.
Oh, bottlenecks?
That doesn't sound as pleasing to my ear as cutting red tape, which I love to hear.
It's very funny to have to create this whole fake new brand for an old thing and then get mad that people are using the new That people are dealing with the newly branded thing like it is its own thing.
That's what you wanted.
You wanted people to take this as a new thing, as a totally different than the other thing.
And you're like, well, that's not fair because you're not saying deregulation.
Yeah, you played yourself.
Come on.
And I don't know that there's ever any evidence that Democrats want politicians to say they're going to cut red tape.
I've never seen it.
100% centrist Republican stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, if anything, a lot of the things that Democrats have campaigned under are just what's called red tape, so it doesn't really work out.
And it's funny, too.
To cope over this poll just kind of shows how bleak things are for the Democratic Party.
Oh, yeah.
I'm happy that voters are not falling for abundance, apparently, but it doesn't give me any faith that the party leaders are going to give the voters what they actually want.
That's never been the case in my experience.
What was I going to say here?
Yeah, I guess like Clinton, like, you know, in the immediate aftermath of Reagan, Democrats definitely did do like a deregulatory.
But since Obama, the Democratic message has been pretty strongly like CEOs are the problem.
The Democratic Party itself has fought against class war, has fought against demonizing the wealthy, which is like the marching order that Kamala Harris got during her campaign.
You know, quit denigrating our donors, dipshit.
That sort of thing.
No, the like voters have strongly been in like the Occupy Wall Street, Bernie crat brand of politics for the last 30 years since since Obama.
And so the idea that like red tape would be a.
Well, you cheated, but you didn't use the surefire red tape phrase that all Democratic voters love.
Yeah, Eric Levitz, who's...
I can just tell he, like, writes for the Washington Post or the New York Times because of his avatar.
He's got like a fake pencil drawing caricature of him.
You know, it's not quite a Hirschfelder New York Post stylized drawing, but this definitely like is in his masthead at the – He says, one, this poll is shamelessly hackish.
I think the word hackish is pretty hackish.
Yeah, you could just say hack.
Yeah, yeah.
Trying too hard, bro.
I also like that he's just like, one.
This poll is shamelessly hackish.
And I'm an astute reader.
I'm like, yeah, totally, dude.
Yeah, definitely.
Good point.
This shit is hackish, for real, for real.
Two, populist rhetoric is definitely more resonant than technocratic critiques of zoning and NEPA.
So, yeah, obviously their message is more popular than ours.
Three, the political case for abundance is that voters will punish you if shit gets expensive, not that, quote, fight bottlenecks is a popular message.
Yeah, and so, okay, so this is, they want to frame the argument instead of, well, abundance means cheap things.
Everything is cheap and affordable and good and better for you and really technologically advanced.
And will raise your material standards of life.
Isn't that good?
And you're like, oh shit, yeah.
It does sound good.
I want that.
Wow, damn, you're right.
I can buy eggs again?
Oh my god.
But then you ask them how, and their answer is, oh, we're going to deregulate.
Yeah.
We're going to give corporations more freedom.
Don't they have more freedom now than they've ever had?
Aren't things more cheaply made now than they've ever been and it's still extremely hard to afford life?
You know the Democrats are doomed to because they're still framing it in that way.
They're still framing it like, hey, things are just too expensive.
Not like, hey, listen, you don't have the means.
We're not...
You don't have...
You know, we need to pay you more.
You need to make a better living.
They're still going under the things are too expensive.
Not you don't have enough.
Well, and I would say you need to go farther than that.
It's not it's things are too expensive and it goes back to like, you know, housing.
It goes back to health care and but it certainly fucking applies to like.
Groceries and food, things that we need to survive.
It's not just that things are too expensive or that I don't make enough money.
It's that you don't have any say in how much any of this stuff costs.
Because it's all privately owned.
It's all privately owned and directed.
And that's how our entire fucking economy functions.
And I think it's a very strong message that you could send to people or you could, I don't know, give to people about how undemocratic our entire economy is.
Not only in your workplace, where you probably don't have a union.
It's definitely not a worker co-op or anything like that.
You experience this anti-democratic shit every single fucking day you go to work.
And you also experience it when you need to go grocery shopping.
You need to go to the doctor.
You experience this, like, utter lack of power you have in your own life.
And, like, you can raise wages, you know, through, I mean, the most effective way to do that is through organizing a union.
But, you know, you can raise things by minimum wage.
Other legislation like that, that's not going to stop corporations from raising their prices.
And you can say, oh, we'll put a price cap on it.
Well, that doesn't stop corporations from going voluntarily filing for bankruptcy and just selling off all of those means that we're talking about, the means of production, to a private equity firm who can then profit off of it and whatever.
You have to actually take control of these systems if you want.
If you want the best chance at your desired outcome.
And now Democrats, like, I don't know, I think a lot of Democratic voters are more than primed for that argument.
We've been living with half measures our whole life and technocratic tweaks to this thing our whole lives, and it's all gotten worse, you know?
And so I think the Democratic voters are being radicalized or just like radicalizing themselves from existing in America.
Whether or not that's going to translate to actual political power does remain to be seen.
That's like a big, it's a big if.
Yeah, I would go ahead and say that, you know, the problem here is not Democratic voters.
You know, I think that the Democratic base is, like you said, becoming more radicalized.
I think the problem is definitely the Democratic Party, which is ignoring the populist's opinion and, you know, trying to suppress it.
Trying to suppress it, yeah.
Like, you know, denying it.
That's definitely the problem.
Jonathan Chait here is a New York Times columnist, centrist guy.
This kind of poll, testing competing messages designed by a party with an interest in the outcome is literally worthless.
Oh, see, I thought the poll looked bad for you guys and the ideology that you've sort of hinged everything upon, but apparently it's worthless.
It's actually a worthless poll that we shouldn't pay attention to, so that's good to know.
That's what I usually think about.
Polls that don't have the outcome I'm looking for, I'd say those are worthless.
Those are bad polls.
Yeah, really all they're doing is confirming the priors of the people who made the poll instead of confirming my priors, which they should be doing.
Jonathan replies to himself here, Now you could test the relative support for fixed competing messages over time and measure changes, but testing message A versus message B is just lobbying.
And yeah, you've described the entire Democratic Party.
Yeah, that's it.
This is like what the Democratic Party does instead of governing, instead of legislating, instead of helping political change to come to fruition.
It is only concerned with messaging.
Like that is what abundance is.
Like I don't have any doubt that Democratic leaders are more than willing to
They've funneled a lot of money into centrist and right-wing projects, a lot of time and money and effort into these right-wing projects in order to appeal to Republican voters or whatever, and they still eat shit on it.
It's just funny to...
That's not what they're doing.
They're saying, I like Democrats who will do this.
Yes.
The messaging is just like the mechanism that communicates what a Democratic politician will actually do hypothetically, right?
Yeah.
Now, like as a Democratic voter, you could be like, well, sure, I would vote for the person who has the populist message.
That doesn't mean they're going to do it.
You'd still have to wait and see.
If they actually did it.
But theoretically, that's what you're measuring for.
You're measuring for my desire for someone to do the thing that they say they're going to do.
To do this specific thing.
Yeah, it's like they really hate this poll because out of it there's like an expectation.
And they're saying, no, we never said we were going to do that.
We just want to see if you like the idea of that happening.
But we're not going to actually do that.
That's not an option here.
Well, I think what they would like to do...
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, let me just get to the numbers here in this poll.
55.6% of all voters preferred the populist argument, the anti-corporate argument.
Compared to 43% who said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate who offered the abundance argument.
Those preferences were even stronger among Democratic and Independent voters.
72.5% of Democrats reacted positively to the populist argument compared to 39% for Republicans.
It was 55% for independents.
Even the independents like the populist argument more.
Given a direct choice, 59% of Democrats preferred the populist argument compared to just 16% liking the abundance one.
The bottom line, quote, what these voters want is clear.
A populist agenda that takes on corporate power and corruption, said Emily Peterson Kassin, corporate power director at Demand Progress.
Sorry, what?
What's that title called?
Corporate power director?
Yeah.
I don't know what that means.
It just sounds evil.
It does.
I think maybe she's like the director against corporate power, like them taking on corporate power.
Contextually, that's kind of what it sounds like, although I don't know if I would have used the same title.
This whole thing is just so funny because they're like, hey, what do you guys like, the popular thing or the other thing?
Yeah, it's great.
And it's like, why are they shocked that the popular thing is what's winning?
It's in the name.
Well, because despite the poll, despite the poll and despite popularity being assumed in the populist argument, they're still somehow convinced that cutting red tape will be the winning message.
They think that it's more strategic to talk about Yeah.
Because the thing is, is like with the idea of regulations and zoning, like there are some regulations and some Zoning legislation that is predatory, that does restrict what the government can do in order to build housing, in order to build multi-family dwellings, like apartment units and things like that.
On the left, like, the left would be happy, I think, to accept a lot of these, like, this so-called deregulation and the so-called, like, you know, rezoning or whatever, as long as it then, as long as we, as society didn't then just rely on corporations to use that deregulation to do the right thing.
Like the left argument for this Ani has mentioned modular homes.
They have the technology to build homes and factories, essentially, that are then just assembled on site.
And you can do this very quickly, and it would be cheaper.
But then you need the government to do that.
You would need like an actual giant organization to do that, which is.
They don't ever mention, as far as I know, in these books about the government filling the role that corporations have abdicated.
Corporations have abdicated all responsibility for providing affordable services and goods to people because that's not what they do.
They exist to make profits.
And in the increasing financialization, Of our economy and of this country, their profits are ever more decoupled from actual good services, from actual good products.
It's just about what the market thinks Apple is worth or the market thinks Google is worth or BlackRock or any of these fucking parasitic organizations.
That, at best, are just weapons manufacturers or financial organizers.
And so, yeah, you can say, like, it makes sense to cut red tape or it's too complicated to do this and that.
But unless you're also saying, like, and then the government just does it.
Then there's no vision.
There's no vision for the future here.
The vision for the future is corporations will just magically start giving a shit about the future of society.
They're actively opposed to that.
It's not in their interest to think about long-term effects or long-term negative effects or anything like that because their interest is in maximizing profit for this quarter.
Yeah, and another reason why it would be good to have the government involved in stuff is accountability.
Because when a company releases a product that ends up being subpar or even dangerous, there's really no repercussion besides maybe a small payout and they get to file bankruptcy and continue to live on.
But there's an incentive for the government to at least try to do a good job and make sure things are safe.
But there's no incentive for a corporation to do that.
Totally.
And I love having this argument with right-wingers who, yeah, think that it's like the government has too much power or the government is too unaccountable.
And it's like the government does have a lot of power and there's a lot of people in the government who would exploit that power.
Guess what?
They're all fucking capitalists.
Yeah.
Guess what?
They're all fucking financial ghouls.
They're profiteers.
Not only that, like, yes, you know, I don't think we have democratic control over our own government.
We have even less democratic control over corporations and over these businesses that own everything that we need to survive.
And it's like, yes, we should make the government even more democratic and then have the government do a bunch of good stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I just like...
Because for so long, this is what Democrat liberal voters did and how they acted.
It's like an under-discussed symptom of temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome.
Like CEO brain or boss brain or movie producer brain.
We've talked about this a little bit.
But everything has to turn a profit.
And everything has to be maximally designed to hit all four quadrants and appeal to the most possible people.
And everything has to profit.
That profit, by definition, is coming out of your pocket and being put into the pocket of a private corporation.
And every political idea has to be poll-tested and focus-grouped and managed for marketplace success, even if the results that you're coming up with are extremely unpopular.
Yeah, none of it's about the actual outcome.
It's about the messaging and the optics.
And the myth of the sensible centrist who will be turned off by the idea that we should have housing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like it's like what doomed, I don't know, Kamala Harris and like a lot of, you know, Democratic leaders is just this.
That they can appeal to the right wing on all these issues like policing or immigration or shooting home invaders or letting Israel mow down Palestinian women.
Kamala Harris should have won the election because numerically she had a numerically advantageous portion of the U.S. electorate that she was appealing to and it just doesn't work and everybody knows it doesn't work.
Especially the right-wingers that she's trying to appeal to.
They're the first ones to call it fake and cynical and not believe that she'll follow through on any of that stuff, even though her administration already was doing all this stuff.
I'm glad to see Democratic voters, apparently, by virtue of this poll at least, Being like, hey, what if we voted for the stuff we liked?
Yeah, what a concept.
Instead of being like, well, what would Mitt Romney vote for?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or how can how can we get John the spirit of John McCain to embrace our our platform?
You know, so I and I think that's what like these abundance people are trying to drag us back into is the idea that.
You can't trust your own feelings about how hungry you are or how expensive your rent is.
And instead you have to you have to like play this this game of marketing and managing and massaging opinion and stuff like that.
And I think.
I think people are sick of it.
It's a disgusting way to do politics.
Especially when all you really need to do to get the spirit of John McCain to endorse your party is if you guys can somehow get me in the same room as Megan and just let me do my thing, charm her up a little bit.
Oh, for sure.
We will get the endorsement of John McCain's spirit from here on out.
I just got to get in the room and put the vibe out and I'll be good.
I'll do that for my country.
Yeah, we'll look into that.
Yeah, I don't know.
So apparently popular things are popular, and they're becoming more popular with Democratic voters, so we're happy to see that.
You know, this might be a good time.
I know it might seem antithetical, but this is a good time to maybe announce that we're going to be doing an abundance tier on Patreon.
It's $100 a month, and it's the same stuff you get at Patreon, except you're going to get more vibes.
Yeah.
You're going to get more vibes and an abundance of vibes.
And we're going to use the word abundance in positive words that sound really cool a lot for you.
So if you want to do that, go for it.
You won't see any change in your inbox except for the vibes are going to be up.
So go ahead and subscribe for $100 a month for the abundance tier.
Yeah, it'll be the same glorious product that you're used to.
Experiencing as an American consumer.
So just, yeah, you'll look forward to that.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think we got time for one more segment.
And this is just going to be a little weird one So, you know those videos Tony of I've reposted them.
Just like obviously fake TikTok videos of like some public encounter where somebody's having a public freak out or somebody's too woke for their own freaking good and they're getting mad at a guy in a MAGA hat.
Yeah.
And it's just like the worst acted thing you've ever seen.
It's like, why are all these supposed high school students 45 in this classroom?
Like, what is happening?
And it's usually along the lines of like, woke black teacher tries to make student take off his MAGA hat.
And he doesn't get upset and he just refuses to do it.
And he's extremely reasonable in this encounter.
It's wild how reasonable I've noticed all Trump voters and fans are and how unhinged and deranged all teachers I've seen.
Another recent strain of these are plane incidents where Like, the captain of the plane will be wearing a MAGA hat and some passenger will have a freaking tantrum and say, I'm not going anywhere until you take this hat off.
And it's like, first of all, if my pilot were wearing a MAGA hat, I would be like, Yeah.
It's not even like, yeah, sure, there's probably, I'm sure there's plenty of Trump voting pilots that you would never know because they're still able to fly a plane or whatever.
If they're wearing a MAGA hat, I would be like, is this like a TPUSA?
Is this like a right-wing version of the rehearsal?
What am I watching right now?
This feels very dangerous.
I love that, too, because that is a real thing that's happening with people, except for it's when their pilot's black.
They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
Who taught this guy how to fly?
But they saw that real thing happening, and they're like, what if it was a MAGA hat instead?
Yeah, and then it would be one of the worst injustices we've ever faced if one passenger was like, why?
Why are you wearing that?
But yeah, these are like obviously fake videos that go viral all the time.
I see them all the time on Facebook.
They're all kind of produced in the same way.
They're all like very unreal looking.
Like if you have any, I don't know, media literacy at all, just the acting is extremely bad.
Like worse than pornography acting.
And so one of these videos I saw shared on Twitter by some user called Antunes or Antunes.
I don't know, but it was a video of a bus.
He deleted the video, so I can't show it to you.
But it was a video of a black guy on a bus.
Putting his feet up on the back of a handicapped woman's motorized wheelchair.
Did you see this, Tony?
Yep, I saw that one.
What context did you see it in?
I think I saw it on, like, TikTok.
And it was that thing, too, where, like, you know, you start watching, and I go, this is interesting.
And then you realize right away that it's, like, fake.
There's, like, no way it's real.
But it's this thing, it's kind of just to show how like, Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the black guy has his feet up on her wheelchair and there's a lone white man confronting him saying, hey, bruh, that's not cool.
Don't do that.
And then the woman in the wheelchair, she's like, no, it's okay.
I don't want to get beaten to death by this vicious animal.
Please appease him.
And the black dude's like, what are you going to do about it?
Yada, yada, yada.
But then another white man stands up and then another white man stands up.
And the black guy is immediately like, oh, I'm so sorry!
And puts his hands up.
And it's all very, very fake.
It's hard to explain or it's hard to convey just how obviously fake it is.
I hope you can imagine.
Because I don't, again, I don't have the video.
What's interesting about these videos to me, because I was just thinking about these in general, is that like, so the whole point of...
they're kind of rage bait videos.
You know, they're supposed to be like, the thing is, So, when you're volunteering to be in these videos, aren't you a little bit worried that someone's going to see this video and then see you in real life and be like, oh, you're the fucking guy that was putting his leg on the wheelchair.
You're putting your feet all over that lady.
Fuck you, in public, because that's what we do now.
You know when someone's publicly shamed with a video that gets leaked you're now you're supposed to publicly shame him You know, it's like is it was it?
Like, how much are you guys getting paid?
Like, I don't think you're getting paid very much.
Yeah, I think, I don't know, if you're doing a video like this, you're like, okay, so this is a racism video for stupid people.
They're just probably gonna attack some other black guy instead of me.
I don't have to worry about this.
That is true.
That is true.
They're gonna attack, like, every other black guy.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's true.
Because I'm gonna, actually, I'm gonna wear my MAGA hat so they know it's not me.
This video had like millions of views, tens of thousands of likes, and I think the caption on it was something like white men are standing up.
White men are getting tired of black men putting their feet up on wheelchairs.
And so this guy, Jason Whitlock, conservative commentator, replied to this video.
This is staged.
Slash acted.
Yeah.
Now, Jason Whitlock is a black conservative commentator who has a podcast for The Blaze.
I'm reading here.
This is from Wikipedia.
Well, some of this is from a different outlet, but the podcast is called Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
On Blaze's website, the description reads that he and his cast quote, protect the realm of common sense and challenge the groupthink mandated by the elites.
Since then, he's spoken about topics such as masculinity, claiming that men in sports were being emasculated, and has also made anti-trans comments.
He compared Black Lives Matter to the KKK.
In 2023, he released a two-hour video questioning whether Michelle Obama was transgender.
How long was the video?
Imagine that for two hours.
Imagine that.
Imagine just taking a right-wing meme and doing it for two hours.
That means there's at least 30 minutes of him just analyzing her calves.
You know, it's like doing a two hour video on Wild.
Wild.
Also in December 2023, Whitlock expressed a dislike of the 19th Amendment and said that granting suffrage to women destroyed the principle of one vote per household, which he associates with a time when American culture more strongly valued the family unit.
Brothers.
Brothers.
So this is a guy who compared Black Lives Matter to the KKK, attacked Michelle Obama, a black woman, for supposedly being a trans man, has attacked women's suffrage, suddenly being like, hey, what's with all the racism, guys?
What's going on?
It's kind of weird that this astroturfed rage bait designed to get people mad at black people is going so viral.
I better tell everybody that this is staged slash acted and A-Tunes replies with just Jason Whitlock's photograph and says, okay, meaning you're black.
That's what he was saying.
I was being more generous with that.
Because it's like a headshot.
His picture is like a headshot that you would probably use in casting.
I thought he was saying, okay, actor.
I thought he was saying, but you're totally right.
He's saying, okay, black guy.
This is just his profile pic.
Yeah.
Okay, black guy is what he meant.
Amazing.
I just, like...
Hey, what's up with all this racism?
He really blew it.
He should have said, you know, as a self-hating black man, this is staged slash acted.
Just wait.
we got a good one yeah okay so here's like uh here's a little screenshot of of the video so you can kind of see how like It's funny because I never really paid attention to the woman in the video.
You know me.
I don't really pay attention to women in videos.
I didn't really realize what a costume this is.
It looks like they went into a wardrobe and said, make yourself an old lady in a wheelchair.
Yeah, she's got like a lace scarf on.
She's got a hot pink blazer and like, I don't know, just like layer of costume.
And the video has 184,000 likes and 13 million views in this comment section.
But yeah, Jason said, I just want to focus on the responses to Jason here.
And I want to see the right wing react to one of its good black political commentators rightfully pointing out that this is staged slash acted.
Finneka replies, maybe, but Jason, do you deny this happens daily?
I like your stuff, but there's real black fatigue out there.
We do.
We do.
We really.
It means you're tired of black people.
Yeah.
Is what it means now on the internet.
It means I'm racist.
Incredible.
I love this comment because it's like, do you deny this happens daily?
Black men are just disrespecting old ladies all the time.
I deny this happened once!
This didn't even happen once in this video!
Now, do I think that there's a mob mentality amongst white men who overreact to black people existing daily?
Absolutely.
I think that is for sure happening.
But no, I don't think this is happening at all.
Mostly because I don't even think her wheelchair is properly...
I think she's oriented wrong.
Yeah, maybe he was trying to stabilize her with his feet.
That's what it seems like.
I think he was caring about her safety.
Do you deny this stuff happens daily?
Oh man, I guess I can.
I guess you really got me there.
The fake video of a guy putting his feet up on a handicapped woman.
So fucking stupid.
Jason, do you know that art does not reflect life?
Is that what you're saying?
Drew from Philly, who's at is Philly Devil, and his avatar is him smoking a cigar.
Replies to Jason saying this is staged slash acted.
No, period.
It's not, period.
But thanks for wasting your time, period.
You got proof?
Line break.
No, line break.
STFU.
Got his ass.
And so this is like a lot of what you'll get when you say, hey, that quote is fake, or hey, this video is fake, or hey, the thing this person asserted is fake.
Unironically, right-wingers will reply to you, oh, do you have proof?
What's the proof that this is fake?
What's the proof that this doesn't exist?
Yeah, and the reason why they're so firm in that is because they're like, no, I like the way I felt watching this.
This made me feel good about being a white man.
I think it has to be real.
Right.
But also, I don't know, anybody who's taken a philosophy, Class or like a logic class or just a science class or an introduction to science knows that you can't prove that something doesn't exist.
That's not a thing that is possible to do.
That is not a thing that is sensible to ask of somebody.
Yeah.
But these people are so fucking deranged and so far from their own family.
Prove that it's a lie.
It's like, I don't have to do that.
The video is fake.
The video didn't prove that it's real.
My proof would be that there is not some TikTokers out there doxing the man who put his feet on the wheelchair.
That's kind of my proof there.
Because that's not happening.
Because this guy hasn't been beaten up in a public square yet.
That's why I think this is fake.
That's my proof.
Sure.
But yeah, Drew from Philly.
Just asserting, no it's not.
It's not staged.
It's not active.
But thanks for wasting your time.
Shut the fuck up.
And then Giovante replies, they're called Beverly Hills Comedy Team and they have many videos resembling this one.
They make those airplane flight videos such as these.
And yeah, he's quote tweeted another tweet from a Trump fan account that says, this numbskull picks a fight with 75-year-old vet on an airplane.
Fuck around and find out!
And it's, yeah, just a fake rage bait boomer boner video.
And Drew from Philly responds, I don't know how these airlines allow them to do this shit.
Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
That's wild.
Thanks for educating me, my friend.
Amazing.
That's the thing.
Wow, they got on the plane and shot this?
This is nuts.
And I think what really happened was there was some sort of deal where you can shoot videos on a plane stage for really cheap, and maybe a bus for really cheap, and so these ran with it.
Oh, how they actually did this?
They fucking bought a fake plane.
They bought a set.
These are sets.
There are movies with fucking planes with cabins in them.
There are movies with buses.
It's phenomenal for these people to be like, well, there's an airline seat in this photo.
This has to be real.
What is a movie at Grok?
Are movies true?
No, my friend was on a plane, and it happened to be the plane that they were shooting Sully on, and they did end up landing in the river.
That's real, so I don't think they can do plane sets.
I think plane sets are illegal.
I saw the rehearsal and I know that every plane is 100% real like the one Nathan Fielder was flying.
Yeah.
Yeah, but just it just instantly went from.
I'm not racist.
I justifiably hate black people because this video is real.
Somebody showing him a totally different video and him being like, whoa, that's crazy.
Wow, that's crazy.
And still thinking that it's partially real.
That it's partially on a plane, that it was filmed, like, even if it's staged, it was still filmed on a plane.
We're just like, we're not gonna make it, folks, unfortunately.
I'm sorry to everybody.
One of the biggest things that's, like, evidence of these is that there's never enough people on the planes or buses to be believable.
Like, there's just, like, the five people that are featured and have, you know, talking, usually.
Yeah, it's clearly not a real plane, because no one in the background is yelling, like, shut the fuck up!
Sit down!
It's also filmed with a high-def camera right on the action, like proscenium staging where you get both people in the shot perfectly.
Yeah, there's just so many red flags about any of this.
See, if you're an Android user, you wouldn't question that part.
You wouldn't just know that you can do that with your phone.
So again, more replies to Jason Whitlock saying this was fake slash staged.
Florida Secessionist says, always with the black cope.
And the angry Ukrainian 2 replies, I'm whiter than legal paper.
It's staged.
Thank you, white man.
And then Florida secessionist replies, I don't care about the video.
Jason here is just displaying his black cope.
He's just displaying his black cope where we tell him that we are not admitting that this is fake.
And this has to be what black people are like.
He's just coping.
He's displaying his black cope that I'm racist.
Yeah, yeah.
Cope harder.
I guess, yeah.
I mean, I guess it sucks that you're racist.
And I understand why a black person would have to cope with that.
I like this one, though.
Director of GIB says, I'm white.
Period.
And racist.
Period.
That shit was staged, though.
And they're disappointed.
Listen, I love me a video of something that fuels my racism.
I love that shit.
But this one's fake, unfortunately.
Enron Hubbard replies, staged by whom and for what purpose?
And you, the listener, and maybe me, I would be like, oh yeah, why would somebody stage this racist video sharing it with a racist caption?
Can't possibly imagine.
And it's funny that it's N, the guy who posted this was N Ron Hubbard, which is like, wow, that's that.
What a cool, like jokey,
Now I think this is just like a fucking AI bot or something because the at is at Hubbard underscore E-N-N-9-8-6-5-3 that probably only exists because of 10 years worth of DSA puns on Twitter.
Maybe there's somebody actually behind this account or something like that, but it seems like it was generated by AI based on really old Twitter jokes.
Staged by whom?
And for what purpose?
And then the racist guy replies for clicks, period, like everything online.
You're not wrong.
It sucks when the white racist is right.
I would say he's right.
But he's not all the way right.
Like, it's not just four clicks.
Four clicks, yeah.
It's four racist clicks.
It's for your project.
It's for your racist project.
You know?
It's like, fuck you!
You love this video!
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck off, man!
You shared it.
I know you shared it.
Freaking hate, you know, hey.
Twitter, it's not just Facebook where people go to be miserable.
Yeah.
And LCSA replies to Jason, are you telling me a black man would put his pride on the line and destroy his character for a skit in which he is totally in the wrong on purpose?
This has got to be, this is an aware comment, right?
Is this person smart and they're calling Jason out, right?
This person's avatar is of Trump, AI Trump in a fisherman's outfit, manning the helm, perhaps in stormy seas.
So no, I don't think they're intelligent.
Man, that's so funny.
Jason, have you heard of this?
I don't think that a black man would possibly...
Make a couple quick dollars.
Wow, a black person aligning with reactionary forces in order to achieve some short-term gain?
That sounds crazy, right, Jason Whitlock?
Yeah, no, that's not the case.
I also just like...
there's a couple things I love about this.
Like, you're asserting that a...
Yes.
But they would act this way in a real way and that wouldn't be undignified.
Like, that's a weird line to draw.
And then also it's just like, Jason, are you telling me that there's movies?
Are you telling me that there's actors, that there's people who do things for money that often are quite demeaning?
Have you heard of this thing called TikTok?
Do you know what social media is?
People do this shit for free.
That guy maybe got paid $500 or $100 or something, and if he had turned it down, somebody would have done it for free.
I don't know what to tell you.
There are a lot of idiots out there who will totally abase themselves just to get their face on TikTok or whatever.
And then there's also a lot of immiseration in the world, and there's a lot of people struggling.
And yes, often when people are struggling, they will do bad stuff to help alleviate the struggle.
I don't like I you know, it's it's just it's such a weird, like innocent existence.
A lot of these.
Right-wingers have, I guess, just like this response.
Like, are you 12 years old?
I don't understand.
Yeah, yeah.
I have a list of profiles to send you to show you that, yes, this happens all the time.
And I think, like, maybe we'll just go out on...
I was looking at more of his posts on here.
And he was doing a lot of anti-pornography posting.
And his bio says, law, controversial writer, DM for business slash promo, quote, particularly bigoted troll.
And he's quoting some outlet who covered him.
And his link is whitelivesmatter.store.
Wow.
Yeah, so I forgot.
Under this video, he was promoting White Lives Matter merch before he eventually deleted the post, which I'm shocked at.
A lot of people were calling him an idiot for seemingly thinking that the video was real.
I never assumed that he thought the video was real.
He just, you know, could have thought that it would be an advantageous video.
So it's kind of astounding that he actually deleted it.
Maybe it was...
I can't imagine that happening.
No way.
But I was, yeah, kind of shocked that he like...
Like if he chose to delete it to like display some sense of shame about it.
That's, that seems so foreign now.
But yeah, his, his other posts about like pornography, Special Officer Doofy replied, when I gave up watching porn and listening to rap music, my life instantly became a more positive and happier space.
This is not a coincidence.
We all know who pushes pornography and rap music.
And then he included the juice box emoji, which is racist for juice.
Juice.
Juice.
Get it?
Took me a second.
Because I was thinking, I was like, wait, is he saying that black people push these things?
But yeah, no.
I was like, how's that relevant?
Yeah, juice.
Juice box.
I get it.
And Antunes replies, facts.
Amazing.
Glad those changes made a big difference.
I love like these right.
Cause this is like a big thing.
Like, you know, they've, they've pointed out like certain websites were owned by a, And they have this conspiracy theory that I'm jacking off too much because the Jews are too powerful.
That's the real reason why they're pushing circumcision.
It's pretty fucked up.
If you're like...
You're just telling on yourself.
So many people watch porn in a very reasonable fashion.
It doesn't take up hours of their day.
Five minutes every hour.
That's all you need.
That's it.
Just a little something.
A little something to take the edge off.
Or put the edge on, I should say.
You're just telling on yourself that you're a little fucking freak.
What's wrong with you?
Skill issue.
Sorry.
And, like, imagine telling your friends, like, hey, guys, so I don't know if you noticed, but I'm doing a lot better now.
It's because I stopped watching porn.
It's like, damn, how much porn were you watching, brother?
Like, that's kind of wild.
I have so much time for, like, chores around the house now.
I'm not just gooning for 12 hours a day.
I mean, you brought up circumcision.
I can't really let this slide.
I mean, that's just such a big...
It's easier to jerk off if you still have your foreskin, folks.
So kind of a conflict there, I would say.
Feels amazing.
God, it feels so amazing to just not have to constantly jerk my shit all day.
I'm so glad through the glory of Christ I was able to overcome this evil Semitic plot to get me to wank my stuff.
So wild.
Imagine just being so open and you go to your friend's house and it's kind of a mess and there's like, sorry guys, I've been slipping.
I've just been watching too much porn these days.
My dishes are out of control.
Lounge is all mixed up.
I don't know which towel is which anymore.
It's bad.
And then at the end of this thread about how pornography is bad, he wrote, Today's men struggle in silence with issues no one talks about.
Ready to take control and reclaim your masculinity?
Download Hold X and quit porn for good.
Start today.
And it's a link to the Apple Store with this, what do you call it?
Sponsored product.
It's so funny how perfectly capitalism aligns with whatever ideology you need it to.
Whatever weird, even seemingly fringe or outside the norm your political stance is.
Guess what?
There's somebody willing to make money off of it.
Guess what?
There's a product for that.
Now, is it going to work?
No.
Because you're a bad person.
You're just inherently an evil person, and there's nothing you can do about that.
But they will sell you, you know, a fake cure, a snake oil for it.
And it's just funny, too, because what he's selling you is just like if men would just realize that, you know, having like a nine and a half inch cock and being able to fuck for 45 minutes and just, you know, like.
That's, like, not regular sex.
If they could just understand that, it would solve all these problems.
But instead, they're just like, nope, you can't.
You gotta stop doing that.
It's messing with your self-confidence and, you know, your self-esteem.
It's bad stuff.
You're masturbating too much to these huge cocks.
You gotta stop.
I mean, I imagine, like, I don't watch OnlyFans or whatever but the good thing about OnlyFans or the selling point of OnlyFans is that it's controlled by the women who have the account or the people who have the account and so theoretically they're going to be doing stuff that they like or that works for them or that whatever that's sustainable or that's maybe more realistic and not as put through the weird
History of professional pornography put through that filter or whatever.
But these people are even more against OnlyFans than they are like whatever quote like regular porn or professional porn.
So I guess that's not an answer either.
That's what we need to do.
We need to start marketing like marketing OnlyFans is something that like the Jews are less involved in.
It goes straight to the people, you know?
Maybe that will help them finally start paying for their porn.
Yeah, totally.
Well, okay.
I think that's a good place to leave the episode.
Absolutely.
A good message for everybody to take back with them.
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So, uh, thanks for doing that.
And anything else to add, Tony?
Yeah, you know, the biggest thing we talk about is to tell a friend.
Let your friends know.
The best stuff I know is things that my friends put me onto.
So do your friends that favor and let them know what a good time this show is.
And also that way you don't look like such a freak when you start talking about what we talk about.
They would be more informed.
And it would be nice for everybody.
Totally, yeah.
It would just be a nice excuse to talk about porn and pornography addiction.
