#615 You people are in a humiliation ritual and don’t even care
Today we discuss the Fallout around the Fallout TV show with returning guests Audrey and Donovan from Radio Free Tote Bag. We relay the messages hidden in the show as deciphered by the right wing, and try to determine if POC actors in PMC roles is woke or not ALSO: we uncover the sick government plot to make sure your bedroom has a window you can escape through in a fire. Will the elites ever stop trying to force their bourgeois tastes on us? Listen to Radio Free Tote Bag: https://radiofreetotebag.castos.com/ Fred Again- LEAVEMEALONE Sign up at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult for $5/month and get 2 bonus episodes a week
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My Fallout experience is actually very radio free tote bag.
I was dating a gamer girl, and I'm not a gamer, and she's like, let's play Fallout.
And I was like, cool, I'll give that a shot.
And we played for like 20, 25 minutes.
And I just was so bad at it that she was like, I hate this.
We're done.
Let me stop playing the game.
I was like, I'm just getting it.
I'm just starting to understand how to play it.
And she's like, I can't believe you.
It was done.
You're a fucking noob and this relationship is over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so I guess you're going to have to tell that story again once we start the episode, Tony.
Oh, I mean, I don't know.
I'll just drop it in there.
I'll just drop it in there abruptly.
This is the first time I'm hearing this.
It sounded like something that would be good in an episode of a podcast, you know, when you said it.
Sorry.
We're warming up.
He's rehearsing his lines.
Yeah.
I'm practicing sandwich games I played.
Okay, alright.
I'm Alexander Edgar.
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Joining us today, yeah, we got Audrey and Donovan from the Radio Free Tote Bag podcast, previous guests, returning champions.
Thanks for coming back, guys.
Whoa!
Thanks for having us.
Oh yeah!
Let's get irradiated!
Donovan is wearing a Minion Death Cult shirt, and he asked me if it was a poser thing to do, like wearing the shirt of the band to the show, and I said, yes.
It is extremely, extremely cringe, and I am going to call you out.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm calling you in, Donovan.
Yes, it was cringe, but it doesn't make you a bad person, okay?
We still love you.
You just got to do better next time.
I'm cringe, I'm soy, and I'm beta, and I'm ready to podcast.
Alex, quick correction.
I am they, them.
I don't know if I was last time I was on here.
Apologies, I didn't even realize I used a pronoun.
I think you were.
I don't think anyone knew it yet.
And you're Cantwell.
Yeah, that's true.
I guess I have been my whole damn life without entirely knowing.
No, I get so many fucking compliments on this shirt here.
I've like plugged you guys a ton because people will be like, I love like bootleg Bart shirts.
I'm like, my buddy does this show.
He made the art for it.
People love this shit.
I met an MDC fan.
I was at a show with Good homie Juniper from Western Kabuki here.
What's up Juniper?
I love that show!
And I got to be like, I've been on that show!
I felt super cool!
What genre was it?
I've only met people at really good shows and that makes me happy.
And I just heard you talking about the many genres that you've been going to shows to recently.
So I'm also curious, that's why.
This one was like a mix of stuff.
June is really big into, Audrey might have to give her whole description, but like cybergrind.
Like this kind of hardcore electronic music.
I guess that's what I was hoping.
I was hoping that's what you were going to say.
Yeah rules.
It was some of that and then a couple bands that were like very like noise rock.
Like one of them was like a trans gal had some kind of like old telephone she was using as a mic that added like this crazy distortion to everything.
It was very fucking loud.
June got hit in the head by A big inflatable unicorn.
It was a weird time.
It was good.
Cybergrind, does that just mean grindcore with a beat machine?
With a drum machine?
I don't think that's far off.
I think that's pretty close.
It's very loud, very noise influenced.
With a blast beat drum machine behind it.
Hell yeah.
Is agoraphobic nosebleed cybergrind?
I don't know that band.
If you talk to me about French DJs, I'll tell you all about them.
What was I going to say here?
I will note, for the listener, Donovan is wearing the Black Bart Minion Death Cult shirt.
Donovan, while you may be they-them, you are still white.
Has anybody... Has anybody accused you of appropriation or blackface or anything like that for wearing the very cool Minion Death Cult black bar t-shirt?
Not yet.
I have to drop like... No, my friend made it!
He's a black guy, it's cool!
It's okay!
My black friend made it.
I had it in my guy.
I had a white guy tell me that it's a cool shirt, but he could never wear it because he walks through all kinds of neighborhoods.
And you know, he just, I was like, shut the fuck up, dog.
Like, you're fine.
You're okay.
He was like, you're like in like a hip Brooklyn bar.
Of course.
I was like, you calm down, dude.
Like it's okay.
I walked through, I walked through all kinds of neighborhoods and they fucking hate me.
They fucking hate my guts, dude.
I cannot be wearing anything that attracts attention.
People are always running up to me and they're saying, ah, that Bart, he's so rude, he's mean to his dad, he's always getting in trouble at school, and you're promoting a bad influence by wearing that shirt.
Is that why you think he's black?
Oh, just because he's... Is that what you're saying?
Because he's rude and getting in trouble at school, is that what you're saying?
Yes, but Black Bart Minion Death Cult t-shirts available at MinionDeathCult.com.
We still got some folks.
Go grab them.
Sturdy-ass shirt, too.
It's a good shirt.
I got a little bit of sensory stuff going on.
This is one of my favorite shirts.
It feels good on your skin.
Go support Minion Death Cult!
That's the best endorsement of a shirt you can possibly get.
That's true.
I don't like how shirts feel, but this one's fine.
Above fine!
It's very good.
Because I've had a few people, you get merch from a band or somebody you like.
Sometimes smaller bands, I don't know if they're struggling to find a good printer.
Or just kinda gotta get the cheaper stuff if they don't have other options.
But you get like the beefy tees sometimes, and the shape's bad, and it's scratchy.
Yeah.
No good.
I would almost take a beefy tee over like a next level that's going to stretch, like, stretch into a hole.
Like nothing's even gonna tear a hole in it, the material's just gonna stretch out into a hole, you know?
No, these are Bayside, American-made, 100% American-made natural cotton t-shirts.
This is a quality shirt that you can only get at MinionDeathCult.com.
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Tell them Donovan sent ya!
Real quickly, I do gotta say, I tell you this every time I see y'all, but I do listen regularly, and I was listening today, while I was driving around working today, and it was fun, and wow, have I never had advice I've given backfire so bad, that someone, it resulted in me starting a podcast.
We had a listener write in and say, I just, I don't know if I have a real defined personality.
I'm kind of adrift.
You know, I have friends.
I have a job.
I'm, you know, I'm living my life, but I'm in my early twenties and I don't know who I am yet.
And we were like, you just need to find what you're into.
Maybe a creative project of some kind.
And they write back in and say, I'm going to start a podcast.
Y'all handled it very well though.
The emphasis of just do it for the love of the game.
Don't expect people to like it.
Do it for the love of the game.
I was like, oh no, what did we say to this person to lead him this far down this path?
I don't know.
It sounds like a red flag.
Like somebody who's like, I'm not sure if I have a defined personality or a strong voice.
I better get into a highly divisive, cult-like media that I can either totally create a false character out of and use it to whatever further my career.
Or maybe just get, like, actually, sincerely sucked into some fucking freakish, you know, political subculture of podcasting.
And they've since debuted their podcast, Pod Save America, and it's ripping through the charts, folks.
Wow.
We wish them well.
But yeah, listen to Radio Free Topek, because it is fucking great.
Thank you.
We love doing it, and we had Tony on recently.
I think we've had some other mutual people on.
It's been some bangin' ups recently!
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Right on.
So, I brought you guys on here to talk about Fallout, because I've been seeing a lot of Fallout stuff in my feed, and just the funniest criticisms.
So, full disclosure, I'm not a gamer, okay?
I know that's going to be a disappointment to some people.
I'm a filthy casual.
So I have not played any of the Fallout games.
We chatted before recording that, you know, you guys have some experience with the Fallout games and I'm sure we'll get to that as it comes up.
But I just want to say I did enjoy, as a filthy casual, I did enjoy the Fallout series.
I thought it looked pretty good.
I thought the funny moments were funny.
I thought the violence was violent.
And...
Yeah that's I don't know that's that's kind of all I need in like uh you know whatever science science fiction post-apocalyptic thing I needed for it to be uh funny and and gross and it and it was that in spades and but there was a couple like I don't know political moments I guess if we want to just talk about the series briefly just in in the abstract before we get to the the fallout of the fallout um one of the one of the things that I Yeah.
One of the things I really appreciated was the main character's younger brother.
The main character is a female who kind of leaves the vaults that they've all been raised in to go on a mission to rescue her father who's been kidnapped.
And her younger brother is like a self-described coward.
He's played by the child general that gets into a fight or like a, you know, is it like odds with Ender in the Ender's Game?
movie from 20 2015 or whenever that movie is from there's like another child general that ender spars with uh and it's and it's that guy i liked him much better in this because he's not trying to play a hard ass as as a you know as like a 15 year old who's who's four and a half feet tall or whatever um but he has a conversation with the vault leaders and they're like chastising him about how he's not enthusiastic about any job
they've assigned to him uh and And they've kept moving him around as like a form of punishment because he's not showing any enthusiasm.
And he just kind of owns them by not caring.
His response to them is, you know, you've reached a dilemma.
How do you punish somebody who has absolutely no aspirations in general?
This is something to the degree to which he says.
And I just, I was like, wow, that's, that's like a very salient way.
I don't know.
That's a, that's a nice spin on the sort of like loafer or anti-work.
Because you do see that type on TV, but they're usually just portrayed as like a slob, or a stoner, or a teenager, or whatever.
They're not portrayed as like a philosopher, which this guy was, and I appreciated that little bit of politics in it.
Yeah, philosopher, codebreaker, explorer, you know?
He's really doing the most.
I think he's an excellent character, and I love How small he is compared to the guy they pair him up with, the gatekeeper dude.
Bert, I think his name was?
It's just the shots, like the far off shots of the two of them together really sell how tiny of a guy he is.
And I like a tiny little guy.
As a large, as a large, I didn't really care for that.
I'm kind of tired of like the curious and, you know, the philosopher is being depicted as like small people.
You know, us bigs, not me, but some of them are, are pretty smart.
Some of them are little intelligent curious folks, you know?
Do you think they're tapping into the white supremacist, western supremacist idea that having a small penis means you have a large brain?
That wouldn't surprise me.
You remember that?
What is the word?
Not authoritative, but the most regal penis you can have is three and a half inches.
That's like the penis of a leader of men.
It's something I've learned from Twitter.com.
The kingly penis.
There was a while where people were, I don't know if this was a phenomenon across the country, where mostly men would describe women's breasts as if they had big boobs, or she's real smart.
She's real smart.
That's funny.
And the idea is really funny of like, oh no, he's a fucking genius.
Poor guy is brilliant.
I thought the meme was that if she has really big boobs, she's Republican.
No, this is before memes existed, and this might have just been my friend.
So that's possible.
That's a good piece of vernacular.
I like that a lot.
Real smart.
I'm going to adopt that into my friends.
Oh, she is an intellect, let me tell you.
Donovan, you watched the first episode of Fallout.
You played Fallout New Vegas.
Are you fucking livid that they retconned New Vegas lore or so I've gleaned from several comment sections?
Fuck.
It's been some time.
Yes, I played I don't you might you might not know it like what they retconned because I think it's I think they're talking about like the reveal that happens in you know a few episodes before the finale that kind of reveals what happened to the settler population on the surface something like that uh and that like fucks with the New Vegas timeline so there were some people who weren't even mad at it for Woke reasons.
I respect getting mad at it for like that petty of a reason.
That's fine. - That's nerd rage.
That's a good time.
- Yeah, that is of our people.
That is of-- - I play at New Vegas though-- - Of the culture.
- In like a weird time of my life.
It was like a summer in college and I was working one of the worst jobs imaginable.
I was like a tooth delivery person.
I was driving like dental molds to dentist's office.
You were a tooth fairy?
I was a tooth fairy.
I should have thought of that.
That's such a more whimsical way to frame it.
It was mostly like waking up at 5 a.m.
and driving like a mid-80s Ford Aspire with no A.C.
and the speedometer needle had fallen off and the rear struts were busted so it was like a fucking death trap.
I would do 12-hour shifts of that.
I'd get home, play New Vegas on my buddy's Xbox and CRT until I couldn't see straight and then I would pass out.
And I don't remember a whole lot of the lore from the game.
and like maybe because I was in a fugue state when I was playing it I just I just remember there's there's bugs and there's the thing where you target people and like time slows down yes the vats and there's the pip and there's the pip boy we love the pip boy and that's kind of all I remember I like the idea of getting pulled over and then like You know how fast you were going, pal?
And you're like, according to the vibes.
No, I have absolutely no fucking idea.
Oh my God.
With, uh, with New Vegas, are you, are you playing it?
Are you on the surface?
Are you in the vaults?
Because I, one of my ex girlfriends had like the fallout mini game or app on her phone, which was, I think, solely to do with the vaults.
Okay, so if you're not familiar with the game, it's like there's people inside of a sort of subterranean, like, network of survivors from the old society who have been raised, like, blast from the past with these sort of, like, quaint notions about propriety and politics and
You know, community and all this, and then there's the surface world which is just post-apocalyptic Mad Max, mutant, nightmare, and like I said before, one of the characters starts off in the Fallout shelters and then winds up on the surface.
Is the stuff in the games like split pretty evenly between the sort of like It seems like wink wink and nod humor of the Fallout Shelter and then also just like the open I'm guessing like open world mayhem on the surface.
Yeah mostly but you like explore different vaults like you'll come across a vault that's like a side dungeon kind of deal.
Right and you will see the social experiment that Vault-Tec was running in that particular vault that was I don't think so.
The vaults were each designed to have a population that a company would be able to run a social experiment on.
Like they would impose some kind of rule.
They would do a prank.
Yeah, they basically do a prank on these people.
Yeah.
And see how they react to it.
And I'm like, you're gonna nuke the earth so that you can fuck with people in a vault underground for money.
Right, so the from what I've gathered both between like doing research for this episode and then watching the series and all that uh it really does seem like in Fallout like the enemy or the villain are these mega corporations who stood to benefit off of creating the post-apocalyptic vault system and then triggered the ultimate demand for it by causing a nuclear fallout you know after already having all these contracts in place with
You know, members of the companies and other wealthy political families or whatever.
And then, spoiler alert, those same people who are from these companies are cycled through these vault systems as management or as presidents of vaults so as to always sort of keep the vaults under the control or purview of corporate entities while maintaining this visage of democracy or whatever.
And so it's very funny that like, I don't know, like all dystopian sci-fi, it's almost always at, laid at corporation, laid at the private sector's feet, you know?
So it's just, this seems no different than that.
And it is very funny that we're getting treatments to, of the ideas that yeah, Fallout is woke because there's a mixed race person.
Let me just let me just bring up one of like the examples of what I'm talking about one of my favorites Because it's just you don't know what they mean, but you know what they mean This is a tweet with a screenshot of
The Fallout shelter leaders sitting behind a desk and it's this comedian on the left who's a pretty funny black or mixed race dude and there's like a woman of color in the middle and then a guy who's maybe not white on the right and these are like the uh the leaders of of this particular vault and it's just a screenshot of them sitting side uh next to each other and jd savage says you people are in a humiliation ritual and don't even care oh my god and what he
what he means is just that there's black people in the show like there's there's people of color in the show because in positions of authority in positions of authority that if you watch the show all of these people are are fucked all of these people suck like the dude on the left is like a coward and like he's a striver he's he doesn't like confrontation but he wants to climb up the ladder
uh typical like middle middle manager type very coded as an annoying middle manager uh that's The leader, the black woman, is a fucking plant from the corporation that nobody knows she's there, who is just there to, like, steer everybody in a very specific direction.
Again, not a good, not the protagonist of the show.
And then the guy on the right, I don't know what their problem is with him.
He seems like probably the most sensible one of the three, but he's, you know, I don't know, of Middle Eastern descent or maybe East Asian descent or something, so therein lies the rub.
This stuff is so fucking wild to me like the pathetic mindset you have to be in that's like yeah dude they're they're casting non-white people to to humiliate white people like what is your day-to-day life when you see that you're like oh oh fuck oh my self-worth oh they're trying to get me like it's a fucking show shut the fuck up It's a fuckin' self-report.
It really is.
Like, this show that I thought was gonna validate my existence, uh, didn't, actually.
What the hell?
Like, I apologize if I'm just leaking, if I'm getting ahead in a comment someone's gonna make, but these people are just like, I play video games to escape.
Like, I don't want a video game TV show to have, like, DEI in it, you know?
Like, that's bullshit, because there's no way that these characters The thing is, if you watch the show, they're not meant to be qualified for their positions.
White guilted their way into, they use white guilt to get these positions, obviously, in the video game TV show. - The thing is, is like if you watch the show, they're not meant to be qualified for their positions.
None of them are supposed to be like these strident, like heroic figures for minority representation.
They're all like kind of craven middle manager types.
I don't know.
You're not you're not supposed to like them.
They're actually trying to stop your hero.
I don't know what you're they cast black people as annoying managers.
What more do you want?
Like that's the enemy of every American and they did it right here.
I like they're doing what I don't know.
I don't know what else you would want, you know, and it's it's just so funny to be like, yes, this is a future where a bunch of people are turning into like walking skeletons because of because of mutation.
Chris Parnell is a cyclops in it, but God forbid you see a mixed-race person in the future.
I think it's because they want to live in the vaults.
They want the closed society, like, authoritarian, you know, everything's taken care of, you just kind of have to go to work and then everything's on rails, right?
They see themselves as the people who would be wealthy enough to buy their way into the social experiments and live underground in safety while the rest of the world burns.
They do, and I think they think that, again, they have it tied up with merit in their minds, where only the strong and hard would be able to survive in a vault with canned food.
What?
There's arguments about their body types and how none of them are in shape or they're too fat to be living off of a small diet or whatever.
And it's like, they live in a fucking vat!
They live in a vault!
What kind of jogging do you think they're doing?
What sort of body type do you think they require to live in a subterranean system of whatever?
Cells?
Yeah, they primarily eat corn and their primary recreation activity is foosball.
And there's mutants and shit.
How are you like, no, this is the thing that's over the line of the show, ruining the realism.
I think people like this motherfucker just don't have anything going on in their lives.
And I think that's a ton of white supremacist types.
It's just, you've got nothing going for you.
Probably largely because we live under capitalism and you're fucking isolated and all of the negative shit that comes out of that.
But instead of doing any kind of reflection or like trying to build something themselves, it's just play video games and piss my pants on the Internet complaining about it.
Like it's so fucking lame.
I hate these people, but I feel bad.
How do you get to this place, man?
Go outside.
I don't feel bad for this one.
He has two lightning bolts in his Twitter name.
Yeah.
I have empathy for the path that you could get warped into and taken down this.
I still would like to hit this person with a brick.
It's just, it's lame and it's sad.
Go fucking outside, man.
I think this is like a 16-year-old who's just learned the linguistic tics of, you know, whatever Ben Shapiro or even further right, like Jordan Peterson.
Like this is something Jordan Peterson would say, you know?
Well, you guys are just focusing on the people we're looking at and not focusing on the dozens of white men who were looked over for these positions.
You know?
What if a white guy went to a casting call for brooding black woman and he didn't get the job just because he's a white man?
Have you thought about that?
Humiliation ritual is right.
So another thing that they've noticed, and I'm just gonna give a trigger warning for self-harm here, there's another aspect of this show that they've determined is woke, and it's because they're confused by a slender character with a mustache.
So, this character is... There's, okay, there's like a few different people we're following in the Fallout show.
I've mentioned the Vault Girl.
I'll just call her Vault Girl.
There's also, like, Mecha Guy, who wants to be one of the, like, savage, holy, whatever, Deathbringers that wears, like, the mech suit.
I can't remember what they're called.
The Brotherhood of Steel.
Brotherhood of Steel, they use Crusader imagery.
They're knights, and each knight has his armor, which is the mech suit.
And then he's got his squire, which is a caddy.
Did you watch the show at all, Tony?
Did you see it?
Nope.
I tried.
OK.
I tried real hard.
So this is not the guy we're looking at on screen, but the guy we're following, I can't remember his name.
He's got some old-timey name.
He wants to be a knight, but he has to be a squire first.
And so he's literally just carrying around a giant duffel bag for a guy in a mech suit who's like talking shit to him the whole time.
He's literally just a caddy for him.
And then we also find out that the guy inside the mech suit who's been an asshole this whole time is Michael Rapaport.
Who then gets killed by a giant mutant bear, which is a pretty cool scene.
And then that character takes Michael Rapaport's suit, sort of like illegally, illicitly, and poses as him so he can be a cool, you know, Crusader, Deathbringer, or whatever.
I did love all the humor about how he just doesn't even know what a boner is.
He doesn't even know what jerking off was.
There's some moment where he is with Vault Girl and she thinks he's a knight.
She thinks he's this guy that he's not.
And she's like, oh, do you want to have sex?
Do you want to fuck?
Like all casually.
And he's like, oh, no, I'm not supposed to touch it or else it'll get big and explode.
You don't want...
You don't want that to happen.
And she's like, okay, all right, never mind.
I thought that was pretty funny.
So in his regiment of other people that are training to become, you know, training for the Brotherhood of the Steel, one of his buddies is this like androgynous looking person.
You know, it's a Brotherhood of Steel.
There's only men here, but this person is like, I don't know.
Maybe a woman, maybe a man.
I don't know.
It's not ever addressed.
I did notice at one point they throw it there when referencing this character.
It's like, I guess they're supposed to be enby.
Sure, but it's never really addressed, it's never a big deal, and I do think it's funny that it's like, yeah, you're part of this death cult that dons this giant mech suit that's meant to turn your body into the uber-mench.
But, like, a slender person with a mustache is woke.
You know, like even a woman, even if this is a woman with a mustache, like, that's not crazier than thinking you're a vessel of God in a giant, you know, warrior outfit or whatever, right?
But, okay, so what happens to this character, this character's called up to, and I can't remember their name, so excuse me, this character's called up to become a knight or go into the service to begin their process or whatever, but the next morning when they go to put on their boots,
There's like a razor blade in the boot and it cuts them cuts their foot up and then the main character we've been following from the Brotherhood is sort of like suspected of doing this sabotaging their friend because they wanted to be it or yada yada yada eventually this character reveals that they're the one they did it to themselves because they were worried about Go to the show, go to the big leagues, you know?
And so people notice this, you know, these non, these anti-woke Fallout viewers noticed this.
And so you get a lot of comments like this, like this tweet that says, Fallout introduces trans character, which again, you don't, don't know that.
Immediately self harms.
What did Todd Howard mean by this?
So like, I mean, to be fair, that's like kind of a relevant joke, right?
I mean, there's the joke, you know, not the joke, but there's the reality of trans people being at risk of suicide and self-harm or whatever.
And it's a joke that's thrown at the trans community all the time.
I even, I see it as a non-trans person.
I see that like, quote, joke used against them or whatever.
But they think they've like noticed something they think they've noticed a joke or something when in reality it's like if this episode or if that story beat or whatever was about trans people and was about like you know self-harm or whatever it was treated sincerely like this character wasn't like ridiculed and laughed out of the Brotherhood of Steel or whatever like
It was treated as like, wow, they had like a really, they had an emotional, emotionally turbulent moment or whatever.
So, so I don't know.
It's, it's funny if like these anti-woke people think they're getting like an anti-trans joke when really it's, it might just be dealing with, genuinely with trans issues, you know, at the worst.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That's kind of what I thought of it.
The way I read it was that I think Maximus was the one that put the razor blade in the boot out of jealousy I don't and then I think that this character like confessed to it in a moment of duress to save Maximus is the way that I read it so I don't even see it as a self-harm thing I just like This feels completely off base to me.
Sorry to interrupt.
That's what I thought at first too, but then they have a conversation with Maximus later where they say, I guess I just wasn't ready to go out.
And so that's where I was like, oh shit, so they really did it.
I was playing Bellatro at that point.
I may have missed that.
I may have missed that plot beat.
Yeah, I don't read anything into it.
There is the real fact that trans people are at risk of self-harm.
There's the 41% thing that fucking shitheads will throw at us.
And you know that behind like a real thing that we are at risk of self-harm and maybe that's just being dealt with here in like a sincere and good way.
I think there's no joke.
It just feels like a plot device to me because self-harm implies like I am doing this out of a desire for You know suicide or I am doing this as the you know pain relief as a response as a negative coping mechanism.
This just feels like a plot device of like oh fuck I'm gonna get called out I don't want to do that I'm gonna you know cause myself an injury so that I don't get called up that that doesn't feel like I mean it is self-harm It's not self-harm TM.
on the fit of his harming yourself, but it didn't. - Right. - It's not self-harm TM. - It's kind of like saying Ted Nugent self-harmed when he shat his pants so he didn't get drafted.
- Yeah.
- I don't, I guess I don't, I wouldn't call that maybe self-harmed.
It's just another example of like, they saw this, right?
And they made it about that.
They made it about like, about, they made it about trans people self-harming.
They made it about trans people.
It's like, why are you, it's another example of why are you obsessed?
Why are you so obsessed?
Why did you see that?
And that's where your mind went.
Like you're watching this show about a video game and this universe that is not real.
And your mind is still like, Oh my god, they're everywhere!
They're just, they're everywhere!
And it's like, well, I mean, yeah, yeah, that's also true.
Like, you're in the same stores as trans people all the time.
You're amongst, they're amongst you!
But like, you're obsessed and it's weird.
It's so weird.
Another example of that.
It's like, what do you mean by this?
I think it was, I think it was just this character, yeah, botching their draft.
Exactly.
It's like, that's so funny.
It's just like, calm down folks.
Especially here, and again, granted, I only watched the first episode, but that's when this happened, this character is introduced.
Outside of referencing them with they-them pronouns, there's never like, ooh, and this person's non-binary, and this affects their character in this way.
I appreciate representation that way, where it's like, this character's non-binary, and that's kinda it.
And it's like, rock on.
That's, it's, it's fucking irrelevant.
Unless you're looking to get up, you're actively looking for shit to get upset about.
It's just a fucking character in the story, man.
What are we talking about?
Exactly.
I do.
I would think it would be funny if like you were part of this post-apocalyptic brotherhood who's like searching for pre-war technology that you can, you know, use to further your fascist project or whatever they're doing that you would be like, no girls allowed.
You know, or like, I don't know, but like, teacher, I think, I think that one's got a nipple ring.
Everybody, look, you know, like, it's like such weird, like, nerd virgin behavior, you know, and I know those words get thrown around a lot, but fucking come on.
Like, if you're, if you're, like, fighting for the survival of the human race, you're still doing genitalia checks on the people who are helping, like, salvage society?
Fuck off.
You're a huge, like, I don't know, just priorities totally misplaced, I think.
Yeah.
So this is a post in Dragon's Dogma Rift posting, and it's from Tim Savigne, who says, And it's like a collage with, you know, the two of the people of color, and then like a Black Lives Matter fist, and then, you know, the ostensible non-binary character, and then the pride flag, and then it says, yeah, Fallout Soy Vegas.
And again, it's just like... I'm so fucking owned right now.
I'm so owned.
It's just like, look at these woke bastards, and they're just black, you know?
Are there no black people in the game?
There are plenty of black people in the game.
Even going back to the first one that came out like 98, 99, there's representation of people of all backgrounds in the original CRPD version.
It's like making up beefs.
This is not even one of those Disney situations where they're making a character that was white black now.
They've always been there in the game.
They're just mad.
They're just so mad.
I love it.
And it feels like it's all getting more masked off about it and like with Elon's fucking insanity tweets, but just woke is non-white people and non-straight people just in any capacity.
That's what woke is.
And they're not even paying attention to the fact that they're literally saying that the PMC is a fucking blight and that we like, you know, that's that's what will lead us to ruin is fucking the managerial class and we have to overthrow them before they destroy the earth.
Like that's the message of the fuckin' program.
Yeah, absolutely.
Very funny.
So the discourse in this comment section was phenomenal.
Dylan Rose says, it's definitely woke.
They add these characters to fill a corny woke quota.
That's a woman with a stache.
Some women have mustaches.
A lot of, yeah, some women have mustaches.
They don't even, it's like a shadow on their lip.
It's not even like a stache.
Like, I know, like, I know, like, Women who, you know, have thicker, like, my mom's mustache is thicker than that.
Yeah.
Like, what are you talking about?
Calm down.
I'm sure, yes, it's a post-apocalyptic society or whatever.
Has waxing just, it's just disappeared, I guess.
Gone, yeah.
We just don't do that anymore.
Wow.
Barbarians.
Hate Havoc replies, like I said, except for that character, I'm not so sure about that.
So like, I'm not so sure if it's woke except for that one woke character.
Except for the woke character.
Confirmed woke.
Dylan responds, this show isn't so bad to be honest.
After they introduced the chick with the stash, there's not really any more weirdly forced woke stuff.
I am not even against LGBT at all.
I just hate when it feels like forced inclusiveness to fill a quota.
And that is what you get a lot of these complaints of.
And you're admitting you're talking about one person.
One person on the show that's, you know, got hundreds of people on screen, hundreds of people throughout the series, and even one, even one is too much for you to see, despite you not being, I'm not against LGBTQ at all, but if I see one, oh boy, oh boy, you better watch out.
We are 1.7% of the population in the United States.
We should get some screen time, right?
It's just one person, from what I've gathered, their identity has nothing to do with the plot.
There's no talk about it.
How is this one person existing and being forced?
Calm down.
Calm down, buddies.
And they're, like, an avowed member of a fascist organization, too?
Like, not with a flag!
I want to ask every one of these people what they think about ginger representation.
What they think about redheads.
And if they think redheads have been treated fairly because redheads have had it too good for too long, in my opinion.
Just based purely on the numbers.
We're just talking about percentages here.
Back of the line, guys.
I'm sorry.
Just once again, get a fucking hobby.
Why are you posting?
Why are you doing this?
And it's just the same thing over and- Oh no, there's non-white people.
Oh no, there's gay people.
And I'm gonna spend- I mean, these are long posts.
This motherfucker's responding quite a bit to this stuff.
Go be around people, man.
Do anything else.
Come on!
That really is a cure for a lot of this stuff.
But Dylan continues, does not take Donald's advice, continues and says, you know they added that character to make one reference to non-binary people.
Literally just to please the woke mob.
Thinking otherwise would be naive.
Yeah, this is an insurance policy.
Who makes Fallout Bethesda?
Is that right?
Yeah, this is how Bethesda doesn't get burned to the fucking ground, alright?
You're mad about whatever token representation, alright?
Well, it's better the evil you know!
Then, yeah, finding, like, your daughter's severed head in your bed the next morning because you didn't introduce a non-binary character in the Amazon TV show.
Damn, Dylan, I wonder why your non-binary friend hasn't come out yet.
Why your one friend in the whole friend group hasn't come out yet.
I wonder why.
Fucking real.
I just, I can't believe people are still unironically saying the woke mob.
What are you fucking talking about?
It's on college campuses right now.
It's still around, folks.
Woke Mob ain't going away.
Havoc, this conversation goes on.
Havoc says, yeah, I'm not bothered either.
Here's two pair of buttons.
But oftentimes, just like you say, it's forced to fill a quota.
If these characters are well-written and correctly implemented, I don't mind at all.
I love that.
What a value you've added to the discourse.
As long as the show is good, I like it.
I like a good show.
The show was good, and the character was good, so... But the Stache chick definitely gives off Transformer vibes, which is, you know, a slur they use.
Or she may just be a tomboy.
Yeah, it's almost like it's not a big deal.
She could be a tomboy, she could be trans, it doesn't fucking matter, bro.
And like, that's not... After what you said in the beginning, how is that the but?
Like, because your whole thing is like, as long as it makes sense, I'm good with it.
And then the but is, but they exist.
But I don't want to fuck them.
So, I don't like that feeling.
That's weird.
Or do you have it?
The last one I'll read is from Marta Bezaleg, who says, Woke?
Well... I hate woke, and was afraid this series would be full of it.
I was pleasantly surprised that there is no woke.
No woke!
Okay.
I do love it when they talk about wokeness like it's a substance.
You know, like it's on the periodic table.
I was pleasantly surprised to find minimal levels of woke in this.
The background radiation wokeness is fairly low.
My woke Geiger counter was not pinging.
Kind of matches the rest of the background, yeah.
Vault Society is a beautiful parody of when a weak society full of weak people is unable to make decisions and is controlled by people from mega corporations.
Yeah, dude.
You're so close.
Oh my god.
You're so close.
Like, the society, all these people are basically slaves to a corporation, and the criticism of the show is like, they're too weak to not be controlled by the entity that owns the thing they live in.
It's their fault, right?
And if that's what you believe, if you believe that a weak society creates this, wouldn't you believe that that vault is full of nothing but woke people?
Yeah.
Right.
God damn it.
This shit makes my brain hurt.
This is, it's just, it's fucking nonsense.
The main character, even though she looked boring in the trailer, is very likable, capable, but at the same time not OP, overpowered.
For example, when the ghoul slightly defeated her and cut her finger, they literally had to show a training montage.
I mean, it was well done.
It wasn't as clunky as it could have been.
But they definitely made a point to show her, like, a training montage of her, like, life in the vault where she, you know, did, you know, weapon firearms training and hand-to-hand combat training and all of that.
It's like the character select screen.
It's like showing where she got her stats points.
If this would have been released at the same time as Rise of Skywalker, was that the first one?
Sounds right.
I don't remember.
The Force Awakens.
If this had been released at the same time as The Force Awakens, it would have had all the same backlash against the female character that was against Rey in that as like a Mary Sue or whatever because she's a badass.
She like goes up to the surface and holds her own against almost everybody up there including The ghoul as played by, what's his name?
Walter Goggles.
Walter Goggles, thank you.
So she definitely is like a badass femme boss or whatever, but it's not, it truly is more well done.
But I'll read, I'll continue here.
A black woman is in a role that is directly responsible for nuclear war, which would not be possible in any woke story.
After all, everyone knows that black people can't be evil.
What are you fucking talking about?
No, I love this.
This is great.
He's saying like, no, this is not woke because if it was woke, then the black people would have all been good people.
But you're actually casting a black person as fallible here.
Like I said, like everyone knows they're being sarcastic.
Everyone knows that black people can't be evil.
I love this.
He's fighting against the woke by saying, we all know that black people can carry out nuclear holocaust as well.
I love him watching whatever flashback shows that there's a black woman pressing the button or whatever to start the war and he's like, oh my god, were they allowed to say this?
I would fucking start having your neighbor start your car for you or something, dawg.
This is so brave.
If you wrote a story where a black woman triggered the apocalypse, I mean, Jesus Christ.
Hillary Clinton, he's about to get suicided, let me just tell you that much.
Everyone knows that black people aren't allowed to have antagonist roles.
Right.
It seems like that would be harmful to your audition and role prospects if you are only allowed to be the protagonist.
But also it's affirmative action DEI and they're just trying to put black people in.
There's no fucking through line to any of this except for I don't like that there's people who aren't white on screen.
And so I need to post five fucking paragraphs.
But I will say, though, if you if you don't have a black woman setting off a nuclear holocaust, that's just Condoleezza Rice erasure.
It's very important that we have black women in positions of power when they're carrying out war and such.
Condi!
Fuck, what's she up to?
I don't want to tangent this too hard, but whatever happened to her?
Condoleezza, come on the show!
Yeah, come on RFTB, Condi!
Let's go!
Probably fuckin' chillin', honestly.
Probably lit.
Probably chillin' hard.
It's lit for her, I'm sure.
She's absolutely giving anti-Trump commencement speeches for like $200,000.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.
And livin' fat.
Condi!
Okay, any more thoughts about Fallout or the backlash to Fallout?
Most people did seem to enjoy the show and again not to like do publicity for whatever commercial property or whatever.
I thought it was good.
Yeah, good stuff.
Yeah, it's fine.
I watched the one episode, I don't know, I don't watch a whole lot of TV series.
I kind of like get into something and watch the whole season or a couple seasons and then I fall off for a long time.
I mostly just watch stupid shit on YouTube.
Uh, this is not my usual wheelhouse of like sci-fi kind of stuff.
It's just anything that there's like a whole bunch of CGI.
I don't know.
It just doesn't, it doesn't do a lot for me.
I didn't think I was going to like it going into it.
I might watch more of it.
I had an alright time with it.
I hope you do, Donovan.
I'd like to discuss it with you.
Hell yeah.
We should do an RFTB episode where we talk about the backlash to it, Audrey.
Like all the people calling it woke.
Maybe that could be the whole format of our show now, actually.
Wow.
Sounds like a great idea.
Million dollar idea.
I will be watching it just to watch Michael Rappaport get torn apart by a bear, apparently.
It's yeah, it's it's pretty bad.
I just want to say I just want to say I'm on record for hating Michael Rapaport for a long time.
All right.
I've hated Michael Rapaport for quite some time, and I've been very vocal.
I can't say that.
Welcome.
Welcome to the party.
Welcome to the party.
Yeah.
I thought he was funny back through like early 2000s.
I didn't know.
I just didn't know.
Well it's funny, between him and Brett Gelman, we're finding out that a lot of our favorite actors weren't just good at playing assholes, they just are assholes.
They just are assholes.
And like...
Rappaport is so good at playing a fucking detestable degenerate asshole.
I'm not even mad when I see him in something because I know he's gonna be killed probably or he's just gonna get dragged through fucking razor wire for a season.
That's what happened with his cameo in Justified.
When he pops up in Justified, I fucking laugh my ass off so hard.
He's like the patriarch of a Florida white trash criminal gang.
It's so fucking funny.
And yeah, he gets owned by a mutant bear in this one.
So I'm not happy that he got money, but it was okay seeing him on screen.
Yeah.
Let's move on to our next topic, which I wanted to get in here because I don't know where we're at on time.
I imagine we're probably about 45 minutes in or 50 minutes in.
Sounds right.
Something like that.
So I wanted, I desperately wanted to talk to you guys about this and get your opinion on this.
Can you believe that some people are demanding to have windows in buildings where they live?
Have you heard about this, guys?
I don't get it.
Are you just playing?
Do you need a photo synthesizer?
Bill Gates can't be stopped!
So this is from the NPR in Austin, KUT Austin, quote, Windows should be a human right, says Juan Miro, an architecture professor at UT Austin, who has advocated against windowless bedrooms.
And then the little infographic that's accompanying it says, Developers built thousands of windowless bedrooms in Austin.
Now the city has outlawed their construction.
Wow, good time to do that, guys.
Picked a good time to do it.
Yeah, apparently all these dorms they're building in Austin just have zero windows, or at least the bedrooms don't have windows.
So I'm reading here from KUT News.
Developers in Austin will have to provide some form of natural light in bedrooms after Austin City Council members voted Thursday to amend the city's building code.
For the most part, Austin will accomplish this change simply by replacing one word in the international building code that many cities adopt.
The rules which dictate safety standards for commercial buildings, including apartments, require developers to provide natural or artificial light in rooms where people sleep.
Austin will change that or to an and.
So they'll have to have natural and artificial light.
Fire code, I'm pretty sure, requires that there be a window in every bedroom.
However, a lot of these builders, especially the new builders, get around that by, I've just learned this, with a floor plan called a one-bedroom open apartment, or a urban one-bedroom apartment, which just means a studio with sliding glass doors that close across your bed.
Right?
There's like a corner of the room that is your bedroom because it has walls around it, maybe a couple walls, and then a sliding glass door, but the walls don't go all the way up to the ceiling.
Oh, shit.
So, that counts as your egress out of your bedroom in case of a fire.
You can crawl over the windows or whatever.
I've lived in these.
I'm realized.
I've never put them together.
Oh, please.
What was your experience?
In Nashville, I don't know, six or seven years ago, I was living in like one of them new development five over one shit boxes that pop up all over the place and are very ugly and tend to be poorly made.
Uh, I had a balcony and stuff.
It was all right, but it was similar.
It like would have been a two bedroom.
One wall was facing like the outside, but instead of the bedroom being separated, there was a wall maybe A little more than three quarters up to the ceiling so that the light would come over that.
And I always was like, why is that like that?
And it allows my cat to jump out there and be a menace at nighttime.
So I didn't love that part, but I never put that together.
It was like a requirement.
Did you feel like if there was a fire, you were going to get over that?
You're going to feel like you're going to get over that mud?
Not a chance.
Not a fucking chance.
As a big wall.
But I don't know if that's, like, how they were able to build these windowless dorms, or maybe Austin just doesn't adopt the same fire code policies that normally do require having a bedroom, a method of egress in a bedroom.
You know, it's very funny to, like, frame this as, you know, windows should be a human right or whatever, because that...
That feels like intentionally inflammatory somehow.
In this environment, literally just saying anything is a human right is like a lantern for all the insects of the internet to come out and tell you that actually humans have no rights.
Water, for example.
Yeah like that's that's kind of like the one of the new right wing bromides on the at least the far right is that you know there there are no such thing as a human right right it's just it makes right or whatever and then closer to the center you get well there are no human rights there are only god rights there are only rights that god said that we can have windows windows aren't actually part of that And so that's kind of the whole, I think, right wing represented in terms of opposition to human rights.
So it is very funny when you get someone saying something like windows should be a human right.
I mean, I guess I agree with that, right?
Like if you have to live somewhere, if you have to work somewhere inside of a building, I think most people like You know, the studies have been done, right?
That you need to have daylight to have a healthy life.
And just, I don't know, like, I don't, you know, I work in a basement.
I work in my basement a lot of the time, but in my house, I wouldn't be able to live in my house without windows, right?
And so maybe I wouldn't frame it as a human right or whatever, because I kind of feel like that's loser talk, to be fair.
Like, I do sympathize with the right wing in that way, where there is no such thing as human rights except what we can make for ourselves as humanity on this earth, right?
And so when I hear somebody saying, well, this should be a human right or this should be a human right, I'm like, that sounds like you're appealing to the refs.
You're like complaining to somebody to do the work for you to recognize your human rights or whatever, which is the way that stuff gets done from time to time.
But it's all to me a joke because we're talking about what corporations are going to do or what real estate developers are going to do, what real estate speculators are going to do.
And they're not going to sympathize with our emotional pleas for human rights or whatever.
They will follow laws that legislatures pass, of course.
But yeah, to me, like appealing to, I don't know, like Why don't these real estate developers want their customers to be happy?
It's just like, no, take it from them.
They don't deserve to exist, in my mind.
It's so funny that we have to wait for a bunch of real estate developers to build a bunch of shit, Make millions of dollars off of it, then look at it after and be like, okay, how, in what ways did this totally fuck over everybody?
Yeah.
And then after that, then maybe you can do the regular, I don't know.
It's just, it's an absurd system to me is I guess what I'm saying.
It feels like just coming up from a, they're cheaping out.
Like, these people are making things worse.
Stop letting them make things worse.
That feels like something that would get to people more broadly and frame what the actual issue is.
Yeah, it's a race to the bottom.
As much profit as possible, as cheaply as possible.
And that's why so many things fucking suck now.
And I think most people can recognize that.
You know, I'm sure they'd still get their propaganda spins because the fucking people who own all that right-wing news media Probably in cahoots with the same people who are profiting off of cheaping out in these kinds of ways.
But I... I mean, it's lazy bullshit!
It's cheap-ass fucking grimy bullshit, and nobody likes cheap-ass motherfuckers who are trying to get one over on you.
That seems like a more straightforward way to address this problem.
Because I feel you on the human right language does just get kind of political, slogany, and the whole bullshit, like, Woke versus right kind of debate stuff.
We're talking about fucking windows and dickheads cheaping out when they're building apartments.
Let's not let that happen.
How is this a fucking political head-butting situation?
Fuck off.
The phrasing is also funny, too, because when you use a phrase like human rights, there are things that we, I think, do acknowledge are, you know, obviously are human rights, like, you know, housing is a human right, you know?
You know, access to food is a human right, but we live in this country where we have, you know, an endemic of on-house people that they need help, so many.
We live in this country where kids are in debt because of their school lunch.
Kids are getting kicked out of school because they're not paying their school lunch, you know, but it's like, That's that's the real thing so when you when it gets what now what you're doing is you're sliding housing into windows by saying human rights and It's like when it's like it just it gets it.
It's not it doesn't sound great It's it's stupid and like you said the whole the whole thing is that's not really the issue the issue is We're allowing profits to supersede anything else.
It makes sense.
That's the real thing.
It is funny when we get caught up in that language.
Not that I'm saying it's good, but it's like, until we have everybody actually having their human rights met, let's not bring windows into this.
I think you're totally right.
I think it does just sound funny because everybody reading this, if you're in America or whatever, are like, Windows, we need fucking houses for, you know, like your reaction to this, Tony.
So even as, like, a right-wing guy who doesn't want to do housing for all or whatever, you could be like, Windows, I would have been happy with a fucking concrete 4x4 block when I was homeless, yadda yadda yadda, you know?
And you did see some of that, like, well, what if people had to choose?
You know, of course they're gonna Choose one or the other whatever and it's like well, what if the real estate developer has to choose?
They're only gonna choose the cheaper one bro, unless it's gonna be like a luxury Right.
Okay.
Let's get into some replies because I had to see how people were arguing against Having windows in their apartment.
I was so fascinated by who would who could possibly be against this And wouldn't you know it having windows is actually bourgeois.
I Saint Rev, Dr. Rev, this guy is like a right winger of some kind.
He's like a Max Stirner fucker or something like that.
One of these weird right wing anarchists, I think.
He says, imagine the society we could build when the upper middle class forces even more of their preferences and consumption habits on the rest of us in increasingly ridiculous and unsustainable ways.
It's so unsustainable to put fucking windows in a bedroom.
It's a fucking window!
Not only is it unsustainable, it's increasingly unsustainable.
Ridiculous.
This is an escalation.
Sure, we've been putting windows in buildings for 500 years, or whatever, a thousand years, I don't know how long, but it's becoming increasingly unsustainable, guys.
Tenements!
Tenements!
Had the window out to the shaft between the fucking buildings.
What are we fucking talking about?
What are you talking about?
This rocks so hard.
Wow, of course the individualist, atomized subject of capital would want his little window.
So he can survey the public square and imagine that he owns it in his private property fantasy.
It's so absurd.
Yeah, it is.
It is like, I mean, because, you know, what did they say?
Like LGBTQ or like whatever identity politics is just bourgeois, you know, distraction or like narcissism.
Yeah.
What do you think a window is, huh?
You're so great, you need to be able to look outside.
What have you produced for the commune, alright?
Oh my god.
What could be out there that you need to look at, huh?
There are new types of guys appearing in increasingly ridiculous and unsustainable ways.
This is a fucking specimen.
I need to know if this is some kind of bit, if they're incentivized to say this inflammatory kind of stuff on the internet, because, I mean, we're talking about it.
Or if this guy is... Is he really like this?
You wanna know more about him?
I got more about him.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, I went over his profile to see what he was.
So he quote tweets somebody complaining about student protests.
Somebody's saying, my basic model of student protests is that, in general, students don't know shit about what they're protesting against.
They do it because it's cool.
Oh my God!
Makes them feel like they're part of, yada, yada, yada, again, like young women are supporting Bernie Sanders so they can get fuckin' raw-dogged up to sundress.
It's kind of like that argument.
Saint Rev, Dr. Rev, quote tweeted this and said, This is true, but people can get as far as this insight and incorrectly infer that protests are meaningless, just random fads that come out of nowhere, which is false or redundant.
You already said incorrectly up here.
The interesting and somewhat urgent question is who is weaponizing the idiotic fashions of children?
So this guy's like, you know, he's talking like a philosopher, talking like Sephiroth or whatever.
And his whole main point is...
George Soros is controlling these children.
That's like the most normie conclusion you could possibly come to.
People on Fox News, talking heads on Bret Baier, came to this argument like six months ago, dude.
What are you doing on the intellectual dark web, bro?
This is basic shit.
Step your shit up, guy.
He goes on to say, very clever, well-organized, and well-funded people are using dumbass kids as disposable henchmen.
Again, disposable henchmen is very funny.
Like, are you saying that the cops are eventually going to, like, start killing them?
Or are you saying that, like, oh, well, that one guy announced he wasn't going to hire anybody who graduated from Columbia, so their lives are ruined now.
All the kids, they're just disposable.
I don't know what they mean by disposable here, but the stupidity and ignorance of the children is part of what makes them useful fronts for old, wicked actors.
Also, the spokes bimbo factory's turning out endless Greta Thunbergs.
Yeah, okay, this is why I pulled the comment.
The Spokes Bimbo Factory is turning out endless Greta Thunbergs.
What is this guy?
Again, you don't have to tell on yourself like this, man.
You looked at Greta Thunberg and you were like, they're just trying to use sex appeal.
Yep.
Greta Thunberg would be sexualized a lot of times because that's what they do.
It's fucked up.
But I've never seen her be referred to as a bimbo.
Insane!
Insane!
Yeah, that's fucked up, man.
You need help, bud.
It's so funny, yeah, dude.
But it's Greta Thunberg dropping the book.
Yeah, yeah.
And putting on the heels.
No, it's the person.
It's like the stacked woman picking up the book and standing up and it's Greta Thunberg.
They've been with fire.
Yeah, no, I was about to commit an ecological, like pro-ecological terror attack, you know, on behalf of Mother Nature, because I thought Greta Thunberg and her octopus were going to be my girlfriend online.
So I do, yeah, I do sympathize with this argument.
She's just so hot!
That's what everybody's always saying!
Goddamn!
Can you imagine joining Greenpeace to impress Greta Thunberg?
Like you'd blow up a whaling vessel to- I mean, worth trying, you know?
I still just love the idea that we're having windows forced upon us because of the tastes of the, whatever, the upper middle class, again, like fake category here.
Big window.
Having a door you can lock, bourgeois decadence.
Yeah, exactly.
They're going to start thrusting their tastes for purified water on us next?
Or what?
Indoor plumbing?
He is a raw milk guy, probably.
Yeah, Sean Dunn replies to this story.
Next story.
Why can't I find affordable housing?
All the new stuff is so expensive.
Yeah, you want affordable housing.
You know fucking glass costs money, right everybody?
Sorry, we're not your parents and can't just give you a window for your birthday or whatever.
Things don't grow on trees like that, okay?
A window costs money.
Housing is expensive because of windows.
That's what's driving the price.
Because you know all these modern houses with windows everywhere.
They're like 100% windows these days.
As like a normal person I would be like, huh okay well I'm like vaguely familiar with construction and I know that Windows used to be a lot better.
Windows used to be a lot better.
I mean now they have like new technology for insulation or whatever.
Right.
They used to be a higher quality and houses were cheaper and now windows kind of suck ass or they're just extremely expensive.
Yeah.
Uh, so I don't, yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, go ahead.
Imagine the contractor would be like, you know what, we're, we're about to hit, we're about to, you know, we don't have so much money.
I say we get rid of a few of these windows.
Let's just get rid of these windows.
Yeah, they're always going back on windows on those HGTV shows.
They're like, we're over budget, we need to cut back on the windows.
I saw some TikTok trying to advertise what they were calling a skylight lamp, right?
And it was like a lamp that you attached to your ceiling that was a square that just looked like the lights in every store everywhere.
But it was a rectangle, so they were like, it's a skylight.
Like that's what these people want.
They're like, let's just put a fucking, put a TV on it.
Put a TV on your wall.
You can project whatever you want outside.
You can pretend like you don't even live where you live.
They want to live in the fucking vaults.
They want the vaults.
And then here's just like a round up.
These four next comments were just in a row, so we'll kind of go through them one by one.
They're all good representations of the people who demanded to not have windows in their apartments or homes.
John Zeller says, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Oh, get burned!
So, of course, referencing Reagan's famous, what, whatever, eight most scary, most, whatever, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, the nine most scary words in the English language.
We're going to put windows in your apartment.
It's so funny to like fearmonger about government overreach for doing something that I think most people would be stoked on.
They keep pushing vitamin D on us.
The jackbooted thugs.
It's not cool.
Let me go get my stuff.
Let me consent to my vitamin D, okay?
Right, these are like the same people who are like, they don't want you to go outside.
They're trying to humiliate you and like fucking return people.
Oh, architecture used to be so much better.
You know, back in the Roman days where nothing had windows and everything was a concrete block and that was it.
It's fucking incoherent.
Oh, definitely.
Catherine says, "That isn't the role of government.
If people don't want them, they won't rent them." - Oh, definitely. - I was thinking about that.
People will rent them if they're cheap enough and out of desperation, you know what I mean?
Like in order to not be homeless, people will fucking rent a windowless room in a dungeon building.
Yeah, they know that.
It's almost like housing isn't a flexible commodity.
Right.
Everybody needs it, right?
So therein we should have the most strict regulations about it possible.
Not just in the construction, but how it's purchased and how it's used and all of that.
Exactly.
No, everything is Econ 101.
And it's all personal decision.
If you can't afford a window place, that's your fault!
And it's all fucking individuals and shit.
I hate, this is like the premise of the show.
I realize this is true, but I fucking hate these people, man.
I'm so fucking sick of these people.
They're just fascinating to me because it's like, okay, so your argument, right, is like, let the market figure.
The market will decide, right?
Yeah.
And it's like, okay, how many products do you personally hate?
How many products are on the market that you hate, that have fucked you over, that you've complained about, that you've tried to get your money back for, etc., etc.?
I'm betting it's a lot of products, right?
Every one of those products is purchased more times or not purchased more times than a fucking house, right?
You got a candy you like, or you got a service you like, or whatever.
That's something that, like, I guess, theoretically, if you believed in, like, the democratic power of the dollar or whatever, you could be like, Well, I was going here every week for a year to get my hamburger, but then they changed the recipe and I'm, you're not going to get my money anymore or whatever.
How do you do that with a house?
How do you teach your, you're the real estate developer a lesson?
You know what I mean?
Like how is your power of the dollar?
It's, it's not even your dollar.
It's the fucking bank's dollar that you had to beg them to get the money to buy the house in the first place, bro.
You are not in a, You are not in a position to fucking negotiate or debate.
You have to accept what they build.
Just bottom line, you have to accept what they build and know that that sucks ass and that's why we should change that about our society.
Fucking baby brands.
Yeah, Hillbilly says, why not require all houses to be a mansion?
It's a fucking window!
Fuck off!
Honestly, mansions are the only houses that, in my mind, would have windowless rooms, because they're big enough to have rooms in the middle of the house, right?
That's the only time a windowless room actually makes sense, is something like that.
Oh, the sex dungeon.
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
Exactly.
Actually, my sex dungeon has a huge window.
It has a sliding glass door.
Wow.
That's part of it.
Wow.
Natural light sex basement.
Amazing.
And then finally, Julie H. Wright, who has a cross emoji in her Twitter name, and then three stars, and then, I don't know what this is, like a buff turkey?
I think it's a karate gi.
I thought it was a karate gi.
Is it?
Oh, it is a gi!
Is she a black belt?
Yeah.
You gotta find out before you read this comment.
She's a Black Belt or not.
Do you get to pick the color of the belt when you have your emoji on iOS?
You better have to qualify to use that emoji.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't want to fuck with a Black Belt.
I don't want to talk shit about a Black Belt on the internet right now, you know?
Right, right.
But yeah, Julie Wright, Christian Black Belt says about window regulations.
Grow up, clown emoji.
Grow up, clown.
Grow up!
Sometimes you just gotta live without sunlight.
Welcome to the real world.
I'm Christian, by the way.
I don't know.
These people are so funny.
I'm saying grow up.
Get over it.
I think we've pissed off Dono enough for one episode.
It was a lot of fun.
But yeah, thank you both, Audrey and Donovan, for coming on the show.
And of course, hosts of the wonderful Relationship Advice podcast, Radio Free Tote Bag.
Why don't you go ahead and tell people more about the show, if you want, and where they can listen.
Let's fucking go.
Radio Free Tote Bag!
Dating Advice Show!
We've had Alex and Tony on a number of times.
It's Audrey and I, and usually a guest.
We interview them about, you know, their history with relationships.
And then mostly we answer listener questions.
You can write in!
And it could be sex stuff, relationship stuff.
We talk about gender identity.
We talk about mental health.
We talk about non-romantic relationships.
Uh, and it's a fucking goofy time, but we, we give very serious advice.
We're, we're very sincere in that at the same time.
And, uh, we've been going for six years, so you got a lot of, you got a lot of stuff to listen to.
Why don't you go throw it on?
Oh yeah.
Why don't you go throw it on?
You could be listening.
Give it a shot.
You could fill weeks on end with our smooth, sultry voices.
rftb.me or just look up Radio Free Tote Bag.
Nothing else is called that.
You will find us.
Great, yeah.
That information will be in the episode's description.
And yeah, personal shoutout for Radio Free Topaz and Audrey and Donovan, who are both very good people and give, from what I've heard, very good advice.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I'm waiting to catch this clip and I'm gonna let you fucking know.
I'm gonna DM you.
That was bad as much as you shouldn't have said that.
I guess I always forget social media.
We're at RFTB Pod everywhere.
We're mostly on Instagram and on Blue Sky at this point.
And I'm at Dono on Blue Sky.
At RFTB Audrey on Twitter.
At Odd on Blue Sky.
How's Blue Sky doing?
Not great.
It is.
You know, I use it much more than Twitter at this point.
It is like much more active.
Apparently we're getting DMs soon.
I just, I can't, I can't handle it.
As you see from my reaction to this shit, I can't handle scrolling Twitter.
I started having an anger.
There's fewer people looking down their noses at windows over on Blue Sky.
A much different type of psycho over there.
It's different, but there is, you can find your fucking weirdos.
It's got what you need.
Good.
Good.
All right.
Well, yeah, thanks again for coming on the show.
Listen to Radio Free Tote Bag and we'll talk to you again soon, folks.
Bye.
Peace.
Bye!
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