Today we take a hard look at the worst words in the conservative lexicon: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Is the conservative backlash to milquetoast corporate guidelines key to understanding modern right wing ideology? We discuss DEI as the right’s current scapegoat for the failures of capitalism and observe their ineptness at obscuring the racism at the center of it. Riding the anti-DEI wave we wash up on the right-wing “conditional hypotheticals” meme which holds that Elon Musk did not get owned by Don Lemon, and we see a televised half-time “spelling bee” that the Noticers are sure is rigged. The question is how… Joni Haastrap- Greetings Subscribe to our youtube channel at http://youtube.com/miniondeathcult Sign up at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult for $5/month and get 2 bonus episodes a week
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I wanted to talk about DEI, which in no coincidence is how you spell Opus Dei.
Right?
Mm hmm.
You can't spell Opus Dei without D-E-I.
Sure you can.
Something to think about.
No, just kidding.
I'm channeling conservative attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts, which is really what I wanted to talk about today.
Um, you know, these attacks have been coming both, like, uh, rhetorically and also legally.
A lot of states have, like, tried to ban DEI.
Um, and these attacks are the, uh, the newest form of the backlash to Black Lives Matter, essentially.
Uh, the first wave of that backlash, I think, being Critical race theory, the attack on critical race theory, rather, which may predate the BLM movement.
Conservatives have been harping about anti-whiteness being taught in public schools for a long time now.
This sort of anti-CRT really did gain steam as part of the All Lives Matter conservative response to Black Lives Matter.
And like most well-funded conservative goals, anti-CRT laws were also passed across the country.
But DEI is this culture war's current focus.
And it wraps in nicely with most of their crank beliefs already because it contains those three awful words that I talked about at the top of the show.
Diversity, which to the conservative mind that conservative reads that as genocide.
Yeah.
Diversity just means not white.
Equity, which a conservative reads equity and sees communism.
And inclusion.
A conservative reads inclusion and sees slavery.
They see the right to exclude people being taken away from them as a form of slavery.
That's theft!
You making me live next to these people You're stealing my freedom to do white nationalism.
Yeah, you're stealing my freedom to not live next to these people.
Or to not let them live near me, is really what it is.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Any of these three ideals just targets the center of a conservative's brain that activates when they see a female Boy Scout.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, Dylan Mulvaney.
Well, that's inclusion.
It's easily explained by inclusion.
We included somebody we shouldn't have included.
Right?
Uh, and then something is like tangible as even like, you know, unions or workplace democracy.
Oh, well, that's equity.
That's, that's a forced equality.
That's forced egalitarianism.
That's democracy at the threat of a blade.
You know, um, black guy made a video game.
Well, that's diversity.
That's so much diversity right there.
That's like the most diverse guy you can be.
He's a black guy.
Immigration, also diversity.
These three things, when I was thinking about this episode and putting this together, it's like you could make a tripod.
These three words do, I think, form a tripod.
Of like anti-beliefs that are at the base of reactionary ideology.
Like I bet you could map every conservative grievance, like even the particular ones about this particular cereal or, or that particular hire or whatever.
Yeah.
This movie, like all of that stuff, one of will like trace to either diversity, equity, or inclusion.
Uh, As a bad thing.
In a bad way, right?
Yeah, easy.
And you kind of have to hand it to corporate America or the WEF or whoever invented like DEI.
Because it's so dumb to be like, we like these good words.
Here at Procter & Gamble, we like the good things.
Like inclusion.
And equity.
And we, some of the biggest bastards to ever exist, Are definitely going to uphold these ideals.
We are definitely going to enshrine diversity into this, this world, right?
Yeah.
Um, that's already pretty fucking funny.
Pretty stupid.
Uh, but then you have to like, but then reactionaries are first like untethered enough from reality to think that the corporations actually mean that.
Oh, we have to stop the corporations before they do like black nationalism.
It is funny how it's like we have the opposite reaction, because we hear that.
We hear, you know, like Hewlett Packard being like diversity, you know, diversity, inclusion and whatever.
And we're like, oh, that's bullshit.
That's absolute bullshit.
That's just it's just, you know, they're they're just putting on an act to try to, like, seem good.
And they hear and they're like, no, this is this is a militant attack on us.
Yeah, this is a militant attack.
The fact that they the fact that they had two moms in one commercial.
And no dads?
That's an attack on us.
Right, and it's funny because I don't even want to be that hard on DEI, even as a corporate tool.
Because like, yeah, sure, corporations should be looking at employees from backgrounds that don't normally get preferential treatment or don't normally know the fucking CEO's son or know someone in upper management or whatever, right?
That's just obviously like looking out for your blind spots as a company, which isn't like good or bad.
That's not like morally good or morally bad.
That's just kind of an efficient way or like a thoughtful way to run a company that might yield some positive results or whatever.
So I do like I do think that, OK, it's it's cool if they're trying to ensure equality or ensure anti-racism or just ensure like some level of happiness, I guess, for their employees.
But A, I don't believe that they want to do that because they can't do that.
If they're not like a employee run store or even a unionized shop or something, there are just too many forces against leadership to ever impel them to like give you a living wage or give you really good health care or give you the amount of pay time off you would need to have like a healthy work-life balance.
You have to actually make companies do that and you don't do it through a PowerPoint suggesting we tweak attitudes or tweak words in the application process or something like that, right?
But even if you could, even if they could make all their employees happy or whatever, that's not benefiting the world, I think.
I think that's benefiting the company and the culture.
And like maybe those employees will have like individually a little happier lives, which I guess does amount to something.
But again, it's just mostly serving the goal of having a functioning, healthy company.
Right.
So like the most credit I can give these DEI initiatives is it like might be good Good.
A good way of running a business, you know?
Yeah, because I mean, even even the companies who like took pride in like, listen, we have happy employees and happy employees are better employees for a better business.
Companies like Starbucks.
You know, like that was their whole thing.
But then, you know, time goes on and they're union busting.
It's like, oh, well, why is that?
And these companies, they take it a step further because they're not only like, listen, we want this stuff to have our employees to be happy because we're trying to create a better world.
Come calm down.
Calm down.
You know, you know, like you have the only thing you're doing is something that will have some sort of incentive for you, whether it's going to whether you do the do the do the work and figure out like that they will be more productive if you treat them better or you realize you're just trying to like stave off some blowback later on.
But there's no there's no bettering the world here.
And that's the rhetoric I think is really funny that they keep on pushing and stuff like that.
There's no bettering the world.
So like, I don't know, you can't even go the opposite way with it and being like, well, they're destroying the world.
It's like, they're just making money, dude.
And this is like one of the least offensive ways a corporation has ever tried to make money was to like, uh, woke wash their product.
You know?
I mean, like, I guess any, I don't know, that's as bad as any other advertising, but so like not only can do conservatives see The bog standard corporate, we like good things.
Hey, what things do you like?
We like those things too.
We like the good stuff.
Yeah.
Conservatives see that and not only are they like, wow, that's real.
I believe, believe corporations when they tell you who they are.
You know, not only are they like that, they're, they're dumb enough to think that this is the way to convince like the broader public that diversity and inclusion and equality are bad.
Because their argument isn't like, Oh, well they're doing, they're not really doing diversity.
They're doing like cynical this or like, that's kind of just what we're saying on the left.
Their argument is they are doing diversity and diversity is demonstrably bad.
And that's like the public facing message there.
I don't know they think is a winning message at this point, you know, um, I like, I think most people who are worried and it's, it's not really catching on, you know, of course, like that doesn't stop conservative legislatures from passing bills against DEI or whatever, killing like that doesn't stop conservative legislatures from passing bills against DEI or whatever, killing wokeness or
Um, but with like the broader public, like I think, I think most people who are worried about the future, like are worried about how they're going to retire.
Or they're like worried about what kind of dystopian cyber dork parking lot hellscape their kids are going to grow up in.
Mm-hmm.
If their neighborhood's just going to be neglected until it collapses in on itself or until everybody in the neighborhood kills themselves, you know?
Yeah.
The broader public isn't like worried about what kind of PowerPoints DuPont is making HR give to whatever, you know, that suite of people.
They're not like the broader public isn't like I don't know it doesn't I don't think it's as effective when like some weird online blue check is like complaining about black data stack engineers getting hired over a white Data stack engineer would have like I don't I guess I have like when it comes to that because that's that's really a lot of it is like I
They see it as another affirmative action, which they've got, which of course the court has overturned.
Now the Supreme Court has overturned now.
Uh, so I think there may be, they're just bored and like they, they got it out of government, but then now they need to get it out of the private sector too.
Um, like I know, I know corporations are, can be like pretty ineffective or just bad at, you know, running a company, but like, I also don't, I don't think they're going to be hiring bad people intentionally to look good, to look anti-rate.
I have a cynical enough view of corporations and larger companies who might be initiating these DEI things that they're not going to be like, we're so afraid of looking racist that we're going to hire awful people just because they're black or just because they're women or minorities.
Like their, their fear is like, so, um, the reason we've got out here today is we need to introduce you to our new, um, COO.
Um, ladies and gentlemen, um, Flavor Flav.
Flavor Flav is here.
Um, and he is exactly the person from the show, Flavor of Love.
Um, he has no qualifications and he will just be yelling at you a lot.
Right.
Um, that, that's what they think is happening.
The thing that's really funny about something like, you know, DEI is that if it was real and if it was genuine and if it was something that was happening because a company really cared about it, it would be something that you could not pass legislation against because it'd be an organic thing that there's really no data behind because it's just happening.
But because there is some document out there saying like, um, we're trying to up our diversity, uh, you know, our equity and our inclusion.
That's what makes it disingenuine.
And that's what makes it like this thing that we were cynical of and we're aware of.
It's like, no, this is, this is bullshit.
This is bullshit.
Right.
Well, and I think like, A lot of this stuff is happening.
What naturally, I don't know if naturally is the right word for it, but more organically than like a corporation being like, we are now going to hire more black people or more women.
Um, yeah, I think, I think like minorities are making gains when it comes to like education and quality of life.
Um, although, you know, it's like two steps forward, one step back situation, but, There are I believe like now that we know like what helps in cognitive development and outcome you know outcomes for your life and all that and we're actually like working to you know get children fed and get children stable housing like I think we are going to see
A lot of the discrepancies in hiring or, you know, college education or that kind of organically go away.
And it's not going to be just because the college was doing woke admissions or just because the company was doing woke hiring.
But yeah, having a document that's like corporations are like, we're going to stop being bad now.
Uh, that is like something physical you can, you can point to and make a boogeyman of.
Yeah, absolutely.
And like, I don't know, it is, like you said, it's just the fact that they had to do that, it says everything about it.
But I do, I do hope that there is going to be some sort of progress there.
But I don't know, just because like, like you said, with some of the rollbacks or the step backwards, it's interesting because it's not like, you know, white people or any becoming any less qualified.
Or are they?
Yeah, I think men are.
Men are definitely becoming less qualified.
Fewer men are going to college.
Women are outpacing men going to college, I think, for the first time in history in the last 10 years or so.
Um, but again, like going to college doesn't even predict any more like a, a robust future or anything like that.
Um, it's just kind of the economy we're in right now is, you know, and when you see just to again, like get sidetracked a second here, when you see like demo loyal Democrats
Pretend to not understand why people aren't optimistic about the economy despite Unemployment being so low or despite despite wage gains that labor has made in the last five years It's pretty obvious to me why somebody who they themselves are doing well or more stable or doing better at least still might not be optimistic Because we know like how the system works like we've all kind of like
Learned since I think the Obama era since the Obama administration What the economy does it funnels wealth upwards it redistributes wealth upwards and It's getting worse in that respect and I don't and There's so many There's so many issues that we have to deal with not just as a nation, but as a world that can't be done
if all that wealth is flowing to the top.
So even though the economy is strong, it's just producing the same results that it's produced our entire lives, which is not necessarily great.
And even though wage earners have made modest gains in the last 25 years, that doesn't mean that the collective GDP of the nation is going to go towards anything good.
It's going to continue going towards things that are actually actively harming our world and our way of life.
I don't remember how I got on that topic, but...
Yeah, I think it's pretty easy to be pessimistic about a lot of this stuff and to be pessimistic about these companies that are falling apart and that DEI is going to be used as a convenient explanation On the right wing as to why these giant corporations look like they're just falling apart at the seams, right?
And we'll get to that in a second.
The right wing is like running so hard on this DEI diversity hiring is going to be the death of us.
So much so that they say DEI is D-I-E.
DEI means die!
I really do wish they would have gone for it.
I do wish they would have done D-I-E.
Oh, the W-E-F?
Yeah, just because they had to have known they were already, like, making people annoyed with this, like, obnoxious... Because it didn't have to be this.
There's other ways to not use the exact words you're trying to do here.
You know, but, like, they... Just lean into it, you know?
Could have gone with Eddie, E-D-I.
I mean, it could have just been E-D, you know?
No, see that's got a negative connotation too.
True.
True.
Um, yeah, but they're working themselves into such a froth over it.
Like they, like, it's already not a normal belief to be like diversity hiring is why a movie's bad or something like that.
Right.
It's already kind of a crank belief.
Um, and they're leaning into it so hard.
They've like got themselves ginned up so hard that they'll, they'll just, they're now like on X, just posting a photo of a black pilot and being like your tax dollars at work.
And it's like, I don't think a normal person could see that and be like, first of all, understand it, what it means.
And second of all, be like, yeah, this is something I want to repost.
This is something I want underneath my name.
I probably should dead the whole telling people I'm a pilot thing.
I think it is maybe not helping anymore.
Oh no, well at least you got in right before the floor fell out.
I'm still standing by it.
I'm still a pilot, I just don't fly because I'm an eagle warrior, you know?
That's good, yeah.
I think that, yeah, I could be paying my bills, I understand that, by being a pilot, but I don't believe in, that's what makes me better than Taylor Swift.
So yeah, believe black pilots, you know?
I didn't know that that was like a stance people had until recently, where it's like, people are actually saying, like, if I saw a black pilot on my plane, I wouldn't want to be on it.
Yeah, that's all this.
That's all DEI shit.
That's insane.
Yeah.
That's, I love, that's insane.
Like, what is the thought process there?
The thought process goes, like, your favorite guys online are screaming that the reason there was, like, cancelled flights is because they gave too many pilot positions to black people and they all, like, slept past their alarm.
Yep.
Yeah.
The only time they've ever seen a black pilot was when Denzel was playing with drunk one.
Um, yeah, or they'll like, uh, they'll, they'll post an article about a Boeing jet that couldn't take off because it had like an unsecured panel on it.
And next to that, they'll post in, they'll post like a screenshot of a Boeing ad that used a female model for a pilot.
Yep.
Yep.
You know, and it's, and it's like, God, the women pilots, they forgot to screw on the panels again, I guess is what I'm, I'm supposed to think looking at this.
Yep.
Hey, my female pilot back at home also forgot to screw something.
You know what I'm saying?
Me!
Me!
Me, I'm lonely in my own house.
Listen, I'm a professional UPS driver, right?
And I would never pull onto the road, I would never begin my day without first doing a 360 inspection of my vehicle.
You know, but I guess that's old school.
I guess it's, uh, I guess it's racist now to walk around your plane and look for missing panels.
I mean, I like how if that was a thing, like, and like, you know, you know, these like white pilots are just, you would just be flying in a plane covered in duct tape.
Am I right?
Am I right?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Fucking tailgate stolen off of another plane.
Latched on.
But they would, they would be like, exactly.
Yeah, totally.
You know, but we're checking it and we're just fixing it with duct tape.
Yeah, this is the way that the failures of capitalism are really like the successes of capitalism.
This is the way it's going to be filtered through the right-wing consciousness.
Businesses gutted for parts by shareholders.
Businesses like Boeing that are appified or gigafied, financialized in this case.
Cutting employees using cheaper materials, making shittier products, etc.
Well actually those businesses were woke.
They were too woke to do regular basic maintenance like checking for holes in the side of planes.
The thing is if you just hire a white man you don't have to worry about that kind of thing because they take care of it themselves.
Like, who's had a real job that also believes they had enough co-workers to do all the work there?
So real, so real.
You know what I mean?
Like ask that question of anybody who's worked an actual fucking job and be like, do you think you were stretched a little thin maybe?
Do you think maybe the company cut costs in hiring somebody who did, hiring four different people who do, who did all the things that you now do?
And then, but, but if that person's a woman, Well, then you got to factor in the wokeness.
Because like, sure, they're asking her to do four things that used to be done by four people, but they've been clearly done like half as good on top of that.
So they could have just hired two men, I think, and got all the work done, but they didn't.
They went, they went with the lady.
Listen, I got no problems with the women, but they're woke.
Listen, I've had to work so much overtime since they hired Susie, and I think that has everything to do with the fact that she has periods.
I'm pretty positive that I would be able to be at home with my family and not working overtime if it wasn't for her and her cramps.
It's like that movie, it's like an extract.
Man, I can't remember that actress's name.
She's a voice actress on King of the Hill.
She's fucking great.
But when she's like looking over and there's another employee who's like doing something else or like talking to a manager or something, and she's like, well, if he's not going to do his job, I'm not going to do my job.
And then she just sits back.
Yeah, that's how I would be.
If I worked with a woman, God forbid, and I saw her go to the bathroom, I would stop working as soon as she went to the, well, if she gets a break, then I get a break.
That damn right.
That's only fair.
We talk about equity, you know?
Makes sense.
Hey, listen, why aren't there tampons in my bathroom?
You know, I'm not going to use them, but I didn't want access to them.
And like, it was like that whole thing too.
Like, you know, we were saying, has anybody ever worked a job where they had enough coworkers?
And the answer, if you've ever worked overtime, then there's your answer.
If you've ever worked overtime at all, the answer is no, you don't, you didn't have enough coworkers.
Yeah.
Or if you did have coworkers, it was just because like, they were, they weren't working at that time.
Like you were all on four hours and only three of you worked at the same time, you know?
Yeah, I guess the argument goes something like, OK, well, these woke companies, they hire black, brown people, black people, brown people.
Non-binary people, women in general who aren't qualified, and then it's racist or sexist or erasing non-binary people to ask them to do their jobs correctly once they're hired.
Um, or like sometimes they'll try to distance themselves from how batshit racist it sounds to say more black people means more plane crashes.
Uh, they'll say like, oh, Boeing was too concerned or too distracted by DEI to not let their planes explode.
You see that argument from the bigger accounts, like Ben Shapiro.
These people with reputations to actually uphold.
They'll get away from saying hiring more black people means you had to lower standards.
They'll get away from saying things like that, but they'll say, oh, the company was too distracted with Uh, what do you, like a quota system?
Like they had to hire 2,000 more employees to focus on how many non-white employees they had, and then they didn't have anybody to screw the freaking panels on the plane.
Yeah, why do they divert the quality control people to the DEI?
That's what happens, right?
And you have to be insane to think that this is how business works or this is the cause of what we're seeing.
The obvious answer is that most of these companies, most private, most publicly traded companies at least, They don't make product.
They're not there to make a product.
They're there to make money for the shareholders.
So things that like companies that actually provide a service like boat like, you know, what do you like Delta, you know, They can't focus on providing the service because they are distracted, but it's not by wokeness.
It's by what can we do to make the most money possible as quickly as possible and also make more money than we made one second ago?
Yeah.
How can that always increase?
Now, which sounds like a more likely motivating factor for a corporation?
The desire to be good, the desire to be morally upstanding, or the desire to suck the coins out of a plane's hull like rivets, you know?
Yeah.
It's definitely the one that's to hold back the traditional values.
Um, I think a big proliferation for this argument, you know, this argument about, uh, diversity hiring, you know, leading, leading to companies being put in a position where they can't fire anybody or it'll be racist.
Or, you know, we have to hire these poor employees because the government's making us or because public perceptions or liberal Hollywood poisoned our brains.
And now we think it's good to hire minorities.
Whatever.
Only reason that argument, like, works, I think, or is, like, traded around is because a lot of these people are fucking just podcasters.
A lot of these people are just podcasters or, like, dipshit AI investors who have way too much money, whose money should be seized from them immediately.
Or they're just like figurehead CEOs like Elon Musk who just morons who couldn't tell you what it's like to even have a corporate job like let alone a regular office job like I don't think it's racist to fire me has ever panned out.
Unless you have access to your boss's DMs or like Discord.
Right?
It's racist to fire me as like a laugh line in a boomer sitcom before that person gets fired because they live in an at-will state where you can be fired for any fucking reason whatsoever.
Yeah, and the smart companies, you know, they have a special black guy on hand to fire the other black guys.
They thought about this, don't worry.
Listen, it's not racist.
My best HR manager is black.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, but the recent interview that Don Lemon did with Elon Musk was pretty rewarding to watch.
It covers a lot of what we just talked about.
And it's great to ask these people, like Elon Musk, normal questions about their outspoken beliefs and just watch them crumble.
Watch them stutter and crumble and be totally unable to give an explanation of why their brains are so fucked up.
It's similar to like what I was saying about grooming about The idea that librarians are grooming children or teachers are grooming children when they say that they mean like You're they're saying you the teacher wants to fuck the kids or they're saying the librarian wants to Make the kid gay so they can have sex with it that's what they're saying and so few like
Publications or journalists or interviewers or whatever.
We'll just say what do you mean by grooming?
What do you what do you mean when you say a public a public school librarian is?
Grooming young children.
Can you can you elaborate on that?
Can you explain and 60 minutes actually did that recently?
I want to think we'll talk about that in a future episode because it was they they had I think it was a Yeah, Moms for America or whatever on the on the show.
And they did they did just that.
So what do you mean by grooming?
And it was their lawyer was just up.
And that's kind of what we see here.
And, you know, you know what I mean?
You know, you know, you know exactly what I mean.
That's like the best answer they have for that is, you know exactly what I mean.
And here's a here's a clip from this Don Lemon interview with Elon Musk.
That's that's pretty good.
Don Lemon's reading a tweet from Elon Musk where he says something about how it's going to take a billion dead in airline crashes for them to get- for them to stop this non- this insane nonsense.
That it will take an airline crashing, an airplane crashing and killing hundreds of people for them to change this crazy policy of D.I.E.
I don't know if you, did you misspell it on purpose?
Oh, that's a good joke, dude.
Did you do that?
I noticed that.
I noticed when you did that, you changed the E and the I. That's pretty good.
B.D.E.I.
Do you believe that women and minority pilots are inherently less intelligent and less skilled than white male pilots?
No, I'm just saying that we should not lower the standards for that.
Okay, but there's no evidence that standards are being lowered when it comes to the airline industry.
You've repeatedly said that there's no evidence that standards are being lowered, and watch the replies showing all the evidence that it is.
Yep.
He said it.
He said, read the comments.
Very enlightening.
Read the comments.
Study the reply.
You say there's no evidence.
I, however, have studied the replies.
Yeah.
The element says, where is this coming from?
And he's literally saying the replies.
The comments, baby.
That's where it's all at.
That's where real America, the facts are.
The facts are in the comment, baby.
It's insane that you would even have to... I know you're in your liberal bubble if you don't know what an anonymous anomaly with an O thinks about DEI.
Yeah, yeah.
You should just know that fact.
Like, listen, somebody posted a screen grab of another comment where it said that that's where the proof is.
I don't know if you, come on, what more, what more do you need, Don?
Replies, though, on social media or on Twitter are not necessarily fact and evidence.
I didn't, I didn't see a community note underneath, underneath that screenshot.
That seems real to me.
And I do hope that happens.
I do hope that happens, and I look forward to it.
And as you said, if you're wrong, then you're wrong, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.
Yes.
Okay, so let's... I'm glad we're having this conversation and debate.
This is what you should safely, despite the major malfunction with the equipment, Boeing has taken responsibility.
Okay, next clip here that I wanted to get to.
You can cut off the last part of that clip.
This is such, again, like... We're going to watch another clip from this interview.
Again, I think DEI really is a keystone to understanding the conservative reactionary mind.
Because not only did you get... Oh no, study the replies.
Study the replies, that's where the truth is.
Everybody knows that Facebook hides the truth.
You're not going to see any truth there.
Instagram and TikTok and all that.
You gotta go to the Twitter replies.
Another... Okay, I can just copy and paste this.
I'm going to use that.
I'm going to use that.
And I'm like, Nah, Shorty, trust me.
I did not cheat on you.
Look, I posted about it.
I said, I said, I did not cheat on this woman.
And look, no community notes.
Right.
Look at the, look at the replies.
Look at the replies to the new Star Wars TV show trailer.
So many faithful men in these replies.
This is a community of men who would never cheat.
No, look, I tweeted right here.
I said, on the way to work, I was really on the way.
And there was so many things that made me late.
And if that wasn't true, there'd be a community down there.
Okay, this is another another great again when I what I'm.
That face man.
Again, such a keystone of conservative thought that in this same interview with Don Lemon, Elon Musk says he used to be a slave.
Expose them.
Verify.
It says Elon Musk gives Don Lemon a history lesson.
So let's listen.
So fucking true.
So, so true.
I dare you.
I dare you to deny it.
Let's look, let's look at the replies.
See, see if anybody denies it.
So true.
I dare you.
I dare you to deny it.
Let's look.
Let's look at the replies.
See if anybody denies it.
I doubt it.
Probably probably just proof supporting it.
Things just so only supporting that these facts.
Again, it's so it's so good to like watch the end of the conservative game of telephone where it's like, okay, it starts off with, well, white people were slaves to.
To now at the end of it, it's everybody was a slave.
Everybody.
Everybody descended from slaves.
We're all the descendants of slaves.
Come on.
I have, if you're going to give reparations to anyone, you got to give it to everybody, basically.
And you know what?
Yeah, sure.
Sure.
Find who enslaved you, and if they have living descendants, then they can go ahead and pay your reparations.
I'll take the same approach here.
Yeah, well, I mean, what?
Like, who enslaved Elon Musk?
Like, Nelson Mandela?
Or something, right?
Well, that's probably what he's gonna say, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's probably who he's talking about.
Yes.
Well, not everyone was a slave.
No, everyone was a slave.
Okay.
No, everyone was study the replies.
Look at how many, look at how many slaves are in the replies right here.
Uh, so yeah, just, I, man, pretty, pretty good interview.
Like I didn't watch the whole thing.
Um, I didn't watch all like whatever it was, uh, some really good clips from it.
Um, this was another one.
A big headline from this interview was that Elon Musk gets owned by Don Lemon.
Not on the DEI thing, but on the why are you refusing to take responsibility for how poorly you're running Twitter question.
Did you see this exchange?
I saw bits of it, yeah.
Pretty good.
So you said if they kill the company, it's them.
But doesn't the buck stop with you?
I mean, you're on... I have to say, I... Choose your question carefully.
There's five minutes left.
Okay.
Choose your questions carefully, Mr. Lemon.
We have but a few minutes left.
It's funny, because it almost sounds like a threat.
Almost.
Yeah.
You know?
It's like, I...
He wasn't, that was a pretty good clear question.
He gets, uh, it's just Elon Musk's already been asked this a million times by like CNN and New York times or whatever.
Why do you, why do you suck and why are you trying to blame it on other people?
You know?
Yeah.
What's your deal bro?
Um, And it's funny that, I don't know, Elon Musk had that response in the first place.
Like, Oh, the other, the advertisers are going to kill this company.
Whatever.
Because it makes you sound like a loser.
Like it makes you sound like a victim.
Like the argument that I would have gone with is just like, Oh, we're too cool of a platform.
Totally.
That nerdy advertisers don't want to come on and, and support us.
And so, yeah, we might not be able to make it.
Oh, but he's like, oh, they're killing us or whatever.
Um, and so he gets, he, uh, you know, Don Lemon is like, well, you're, you're the CEO and it's your responsibility, yada, yada, yada to, to make money.
And it's like clear that Elon Musk, at least at this point, I mean, maybe he does have some idea that X will be just a huge money making revenue generating product.
Um, but right now I don't think he has any, illusions about it making money for him anytime soon he's definitely doing this as like a culture war thing as like a personal political project as A like flex, you know when it comes to politics that is why he's doing it So it's funny to be like, well, I thought the buck stopped with you, sir.
Why are you not giving a product that's good enough for Disney to want to advertise on or whatever?
Um, but right here, I loved this because Don Lemon essentially asks him, he's like, what's wrong with you?
Why are you, why are you weird?
What's going on with you?
There's something we don't know about here, bud.
Let me let me play it.
And it's not working.
Well, to be clear, we are trying to watch this on the X.com that he's speaking about, so... It's them.
But doesn't the buck stop with you?
Hmm.
Okay, so I will have to watch it and just, I'll just cut it up.
I will say X, man, what a great platform for video.
Unless you want to try to play the video at a point that it's not currently on, then the whole thing kind of, kind of falls apart.
Yeah.
Hello.
Whoa.
Okay, it's not playing.
Essentially, Don Lemon's like, well, this is just a normal question.
This is a normal question I would ask of any fucking... This is a normal, like, softball-ass question I would ask of the CEO of any failing company.
You know, let alone your... Like, you're not special, right?
Why are you so combative over this?
Or, like, how long... He's like, how long have you been like this?
Or where does that come from?
And Elon Musk says, oh, my whole life I've been like this.
And Don Lemon's like, why, what happened?
And he's like, well, I had a rough childhood.
He's like, I was born this way and I had a rough childhood, but I don't have time to get into it.
You can, you can ask, what is it here?
Ask Walter Isaacson, who wrote an Elon Musk book.
And I was like, I got to know what kind of hard upbringing the fucking South African Emerald Mine heir had, right?
So I looked it up and Walter Isaacson essentially argues in his book that Elon Musk has PTSD from his mean dad.
Yep.
I remember, I remember hearing something about that.
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's mean, mean dads come in all shapes and sizes.
Okay.
All right.
But you know, sometimes it, cause he, something is clearly like up with him.
Well, I think he has Asperger's and I, you know, that's, that's like, I don't think we even, I don't think we even say, I don't think Asperger's is a diagnosis anymore.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I don't know his particular diagnosis and I know there's plenty of pleasant people with Asperger's and autism and who aren't just like Uh, contrarian assholes or like people with some degree of God complex.
I don't think much of that has to do with, uh, whatever part of the autism spectrum he may or may not be on.
Um, but yeah, I found this article from fortune, uh, fortune magazine, I guess.
Uh, does Elon Musk have PTSD biography while biographer Walter Isaacson says the billionaire's turbulent childhood with an abusive father left him scarred.
Elon Musk has post-traumatic stress disorder from a turbulent childhood that included time in apartheid South Africa.
I like how they say that as if he was on the hard part of apartheid.
Yeah, yeah.
And verbal, it just, God, do you know how hard it is to watch a second class group of people not have rights?
It's so, it's, imagine growing up around that.
Imagine what it would do to you.
So that's the problem.
That's what he thinks.
He thinks that because, you know, his experience, you know, black people can't even access education.
How are they supposed to learn how to fly planes and we're just letting them fly planes?
They only want to fly the plane so they can take the tires off the landing gear and put it around the neck of a white farmer and set it on fire.
But does the co-founder of six companies actually have the psychiatric condition thought to affect around 5% of the global population?
Was Isaacson misappropriating the term, as mental health experts say commonly occurs?
Or is Elon's mental state perhaps even more nuanced than Isaacson alludes to?
And this article is just a bunch of, uh, like actual, you know, psychologists and psychiatrists and, you know, uh, People have written books on the topic who are like, no, Elon Musk doesn't have P.T.
Like he would have to go to a fucking doctor and like get diagnosed with P.T.S.D.
by someone other than his biographer.
But I love that there is a possible future where we're going to have to accept that Elon Musk killing a bunch of monkeys with his cybernetic implants was him stimming.
Yep, totally.
Totally.
Because like it's funny, too, because Don't people like him not take PTSD seriously?
Isn't that considered like a soft diagnosis?
I think that's why we haven't heard much about this.
I think that's why he didn't say I have PTSD in the interview with Don Lemon because that would have been a huge laugh line.
That would have been a massive laugh line.
And yeah, if you're on the right wing, I don't know.
He's pretty Reddit, so I think he probably is woke about mental health, although he probably does have some crazy Scientology-ass beliefs about curing whatever mental illness and stuff like that.
But I'm sure he does have some sort of like sensitive side about how we need to just be nice to each other, you know, just like that blanket.
Like he doesn't have that can that particular like conservative outlook where it's like.
Mike makes right, you know, he doesn't have like that outward, at least that I've seen, um, tendency towards his politics.
Um, so I could see him like in private company or in the company of just like the blue check crypto nerds being like, you know, check on your friends, you know, check, check, check on your Ethereum friends right now.
Look, you don't know what someone else is going through.
You can't see the burden they're carrying on their shoulders.
You can't see their mean dad.
Just because someone's wearing a really cool t-shirt of astronauts walking like the Beatles on the Abbey Road doesn't mean everything else is cool in their life.
Sometimes it's just a brave front that they're putting up.
Sometimes all they have is that shirt, you know, and the rest is just being scared.
If you go home with a man, and he's got a poster, and it's all the Pink Floyd album covers, but they're spray-painted onto anime waifu torsos, talk to him.
Because he probably needs someone to talk to.
Yeah.
Ask him what's really going on.
Ask him how they really feel.
And let him know it's a safe place.
So I thought that was amazing.
I learned that Elon Musk was diagnosed with PTSD by his biographer.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Another thing that this led me to is a meme that I've been seeing recently, which is the idea that stupid people can't understand hypotheticals.
It's like a race science argument that I think was first The screenshot is from 4chan.
That's where the meme comes from.
It's some guy who says he was studying a group of people with sub-90 IQs, so already it sounds fake.
Already it sounds like racist 4chan nonsense.
He said that inmates, prisoners, they were incapable of understanding a hypothetical.
And the example he gave was you would ask the subject, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast?
And he said that the subjects were incapable of understanding the idea of a hypothetical uh what's the word a like a contra to reality hypothetical yeah well i did eat breakfast is is how the meme goes and it's just wow and we need to kill all these people is literally how how that meme ends um we need people to understand hypotheticals to get on in real life yeah um
Um, and so one point of this interview with Elon Musk became a aspect of this meme when, uh, yeah, both Tim pool and end wokeness tried to own Don Lemon via a question that Elon Musk posed or like a hypothetical that Elon Musk posed to Don Lemon during their interview.
Um, Elon Musk tries to explain how lowering the standards for doctors could result in more deaths.
Don Lemon is unable to grasp the concept.
The entire exchange is incredible.
Uh, and then Tim Pool quote tweets this and says, holy shit, Don Lemon can't comprehend conditional hypotheticals.
So that's the, uh, the intentional, that's the intelligent way of saying hypothetical.
You say conditional hypothetical in front of it.
Um, So let's listen to this, uh, this exchange in the interview and see what the fuck they're talking about.
I believe that if, uh, if, if we, if we lower the status for what it takes to become a doctor, you're saying if we lower the standards, but do you believe people are dying because the standards are being lowered?
I don't think that is yet an issue, but it could become an issue.
Okay.
That's, that's, that's a correct response.
When somebody is like, people are going to die because of lowered standards.
And you're like, I don't see the low, the lowered standards don't exist.
And then the other guy is like, yeah, but if they lowered the standards, you can see why that would happen, right?
Yeah.
And then you would have to go, Oh yes, you're right.
You're, you're right.
That if they lowered the standards, less able people would like, what, what do you do?
The argument is about whether it's happening.
The argument isn't about whether lowered standards means worse results.
And that's what's funny is like these people are allowing the hypothetical question to override the actual question.
Yeah.
You know, they got back into a corner and they were exposed as fucking fraud.
So now they have to pretend that they were just posing a hypothetical that can't be that that a black man can't wrap his mind around.
Yeah, exactly.
It is.
It's like if answer answer the the real question and like, sure, yeah, you're hypothetical.
Yeah, I guess I guess that would That would probably be bad if they lowered the standards, but they're not.
And I hope they don't.
But you can't give them that much.
You can't answer that hard.
You can't give them that much credit, you know?
It's like the opposite version of DEI.
It's like a company saying, we do diversity and inclusion.
And you're like, okay, I guess that's good because you used good words.
And then conservatives are like, they actually lowered standards.
You're like, oh, okay, that's bad because lowered standards are bad.
Wow, you've convinced me, you know?
Yeah.
Let's hear any more of this.
Actual evidence in history shows the exact opposite.
If you look at how minorities are treated by the medical system, most doctors, most doctors now are white.
And there are lots of mistakes in medicine.
So you're saying that He's like kind of trying to help him out a little bit.
Yeah, see George Alexopoulos, who is the cartoonist we've talked about a couple times who does those insane, you know, vivid cartoons about like children being preyed on by a crazy blue haired teacher.
Or like one of my favorites, Kamala Harris screaming in the war or the boy whose dad was an American soldier who died and he's at the funeral and Kamala Harris like screams in his face or something and then dances away.
Love that cartoon.
George Alexopoulos says, but he did have breakfast this morning.
What do you mean?
And so then yeah, an obvious reference to that, uh, racist meme.
And I don't know the question, if the question were like, um, does, does having breakfast or does not having breakfast lead to, you know, better health results throughout the day or feeling better throughout the day?
And then, you know, the person conducting the study asked you, okay, did you have breakfast or not?
And you were like, yeah, I had breakfast.
And they're like, but what if you didn't have breakfast?
And it's like, well, that's a different question.
Like, are we trying to actually answer whether or not having breakfast or not having breakfast has a result?
Or are you just asking my opinion about the breakfast?
That's kind of like the analogy here.
You're asking my opinion about lowered standards.
having worse results.
And it seems like a tautology.
It seems like definitionally lowered standards.
So the, yes, that's that your, your great experiment has been conducted now.
Yes.
Lowered standards would hypothetically lead to worse results.
Can we talk about reality now?
Yeah.
And like, you can't, you can't use hypotheticals in like research.
It doesn't work that way.
Like the question wouldn't be like, and if you didn't have breakfast, how would you feel?
The question would be like, in the past when you have skipped breakfast, how did you feel?
That's how you would have, it wouldn't be a hypothetical.
It'd be something based on real.
Yeah.
It would be, did you have, did you have breakfast or not?
How do you feel?
That would, that would be how you.
Yeah, and then like I said, the equivalent would be like a real example, like in the past when you have it, you have to have, it has to be real.
So to give credence to hypotheticals is so fucking silly.
And it's funny because like, What Don Lemon hears, he knows he can't really get into medical racism here.
Because that's what he's talking about, because that's true.
You know, specifically black women, you know, get, don't get taken seriously in hospitals or in medical, medical environments.
Yeah, absolutely.
Specifically.
And it's because the, you know, because the medical field is mostly white or, or to say non-black.
And, but he, And this is something that does have data behind it.
He knows he can't even really broach that here.
Yeah, I can't really deal.
He like he's like, I'm I'm going to hint to this, but.
He knows that, like, even if he brings up data, Elon Musk is going to be like, well, that's not real data.
Well, listen, give me a hypothetical about it instead.
I don't I don't necessarily think, you know, there's more to this part of the question, but we're not going to listen to it.
But.
I think, I think reactionaries are more than happy to admit to medical, previous medical racism because it's evidence for there being like weaponized medicine.
It's evidence, you know, they, they'll cite the fucking extinction, the near extinction of the, of, you know, uh, indigenous North American peoples.
As a reason to not trust the government.
As a reason to go against whatever.
True.
And they would cite things like the Tuskegee experiment.
I bet Elon Musk cited the Tuskegee experiment when he was railing against the COVID vaccine.
So these people, they will adopt and adapt certain aspects of racist history to their own benefit, for sure.
But medical racism is a current thing that's happening.
And that's what Don Lemon's talking about.
Because it is current, you would have to acknowledge that racism is still happening.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't know if he would acknowledge current medical racism is still happening.
Um, maybe, you know, he, he, I don't think he likes modern medicine in general.
So I don't, I don't know if he would like defend it all that much, to be honest, but, um, one more, like, here's another example.
And then I think we're gonna, we're gonna wrap it up, but this is, um, just so beautiful.
Um, and an example of what we're talking about, With this hypothetical thing.
Um, so this is that whatever podcast, uh, which is just called whatever.
And I think it's the one where they bring on only fans, girls to make fun of them, uh, to try and own them for being, for having sex while they're not, you know, things like that.
Um, and this is a post from that podcast.
This is something that that podcast uploaded themselves, uh, on X and it's, A short video of one of their contributors trying to do the breakfast meme on OnlyFans girls that are being interviewed and just himself not understanding it.
I did have one question for you if you don't mind.
Just the last one.
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
Me?
Yeah.
I didn't.
Like, that's an appropriate answer.
Because it sounds like a normal, concerned question or something, you know?
Like, everybody should eat breakfast.
Like, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast?
And she's like, well, I didn't eat breakfast, actually.
Like that's that's an appropriate answer, because she doesn't know he's trying to own her with facts and logic by this like esoteric meme from 4chan.
And so he immediately starts short circuiting here.
What do you mean?
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
Oh, okay.
Now I understand that you've rephrased the same exact... You've gone through the same exact dialogue prompt that you hit before.
It's so much clearer now.
Breakfast this morning.
Me?
Yeah.
I didn't.
Yeah, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
How I feel right now, because I didn't eat breakfast this morning.
Boom.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I did have one question.
Good one.
He did a W. He thinks that was a W right there?
They're posting this as like a victory?
They're posting it.
Whatever captioned this intelligence test, can they engage with a hypothetical?
Oh, funny.
It's just like, bro, he like started short circuiting when she talked to him like a human being.
That's so funny.
Her answer's perfect.
I guess how I feel now, because I didn't eat breakfast.
Like, dude, you blew it.
That whole thing, there's a way to do it, and you find out if they had a breakfast, and then ask them the opposite of whatever they did have.
Sure, or immediately, you could have just said, oh, you didn't have breakfast.
How would you feel if you did have breakfast?
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
Or how would you feel if you did have breakfast?
Switch it up immediately.
I don't know.
Like if you understand what a hypothetical, uh, what is, what is the word I'm trying to think of?
Like contra to reality, uh, like an alternate universe.
Like all you have to do is think of an example that didn't happen.
Think of the thing that didn't happen.
And this is this is an audio format for the most part.
So people do need to know the gentleman asking the question does have like a twisted mustache, does have like a pointy, twisted mustache that we have.
We continue and we advocate against because we love you, listener.
We love you.
And and like and I just whatever you're thinking is happening with your curly or wax mustache, just know that you look more like this guy than you don't.
Yeah.
We love you.
We love you.
Gotta agree with that.
Um, and it's funny cause this guy, like I had to, I looked through a bunch of videos of this podcast and this guy does seem to be like a member of the podcast, but he's never in the same room with them.
He's always like split screened in and like his own, I think his own little like man cave where he smokes cigarettes while he podcasts.
Hell yeah.
Um, So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if maybe he's not allowed to be around some of these women or what.
But yeah, he's frequently calling in and owning them from abroad.
I'll just do one more thing that I saw while I was doing my research.
The modern expression of anguish against DEI and an extremely funny thing I saw Was here, uh, posted by I hypocrite.
Um, I love I hypocrite.
They, um, they're ostensibly like a sort of like a Herman Cain award type account where it's like, Oh, here's, here's liberals being hypocritical.
Or here's liberals like getting what they swore would never happen.
You know, so if like, like whatever those two, the, you know, the two people killed by undocumented immigrants or alleged to be killed by, you know, they would just like post their photo.
Look at this, look at this hypocrite, you know, or like, um, or like, look at this, uh, single mother who had a black husband.
But they got divorced or or she left him or he left her like what did you think was gonna happen?
You know, that's like their example of hypocrisy, right?
Well, they've posted a video that is It's a video somebody took with their phone of the TV And definitely like a boomer uploaded this and I hypocrite has captioned it equitable spelling bee and And so we're looking on the TV and it's at a basketball game and it's like the halftime show and there's, they're doing like a contest.
And so there's two contestants.
There's, um, a white guy on the left and then a black woman on the right.
And there's a black woman who's asking them both the questions.
And it is a spelling bee. - All right, Alexis, your first word, strike.
Mars, take time.
Okay, Alexa, the black woman had to spell sprain.
The white guy gets the word synovium.
Good job, dude.
She got stress fracture.
That's correct.
All right, Jacob, your word is a vascular necrosis.
Vascular necrosis.
Yeah, so this, wow, it's an equitable spelling bee.
Look at all the hard questions they gave to the white man for his privilege.
And they gave all the easy questions to the black queen so that she can slay, so that she can be on fleek.
Um, when like even me, I don't, I don't even watch sports and I can just tell that this is a joke against the white guy.
This is like a halftime side show.
That's like obviously comically slated against this guy, because guess what?
He's supporting the visiting team in the basketball game.
Boom, boom.
And like it's so, it's like, it's obviously a joke.
Also, this is like a halftime show spelling bee.
This is not an important thing.
This is not like the spelling bee.
This is not like the spelling bee. - He could have gotten a call, if he had done well on this college, on this spelling bee, he could have put it on his college resume, dude.
Yeah.
It's like, there's, there's no, there's no guy out there who's like, you know, on house and it's just like lamenting the day that he got the, the, the on equitable spelling via the halftime show was all downhill from there.
I was really, I was, listen, I was, I was really depending on, on the free burger I would get if I, if I won that.
Yeah, the reason I'm shivering in the cold right now is because they wouldn't hit me with the t-shirt candidate after I misspelled Voluvia.
Yeah.
Yeah, but the replies to this amazing godly dot algo blue check says this looks a lot like corporate America job interviews.
Totally.
Yeah, totally.
You're definitely like AI.
You're definitely like chat GPT replying to this.
The right guy verified says basically America right now.
Pretty much, pretty much.
But yeah, Dr. Steve Turley, Blue Check says, how is this real?
What's your doctorate in, dude?
What did you get your?
Was it reading comprehension?
How are they getting away with this?
I have a doctorate in media consumption.
The secular world is at its brink and a new conservative age is rising!
Join me as I examine worldwide trends in a light of rising conservative age.
They're rising the age of conservatism.
That's good.
I really want to know what that guy's doctorate is.
Is this real?
It's because if you're like, if you're like, I don't know, if I was like a white guy who believed that I was the superior race, I was to look at this and be like, listen, even if they are giving me the harder word, it's not a problem for me.
Right.
He still did pretty good.
It's not a problem for me.
You know?
Bruce Wayne parentheses Batman blue check at I am the Batman with a four instead of an A and Batman says DEI explained in one minute.
The whole point of Batman and Bruce Wayne is that you're not supposed to know that one's the other.
You're doing a bad job.
Oh, that's a really good point.
You're doing a terrible job.
Bruce Wayne parentheses Batman.
This dude's from India.
He thinks he has to explain that Bruce Wayne is a reference to Batman.
Yeah, do you get it?
That's why I'm referencing you.
Oh my god, dude.
If Batman could make memes, shitpost, and occasionally trade stocks.
Former IBD M&A startup co-founder.
I thought you were just making a joke.
You were reading the biography.
Yeah.
Oh man, he's got IQ memes as his banner.
The Wall Street Guy's 145 IQ.
Uh, yeah, greater than 145 IQ, but the Stonks guy, the Reddit Stonks Bitcoin dog guy has a greater than 95 IQ.
I guess he's just saying he...
They're like the slobs who owned the snobs on Wall Street?
I guess so.
White is... Oh, okay.
He's got, like, tan lines for the mask.
Which, again, doesn't make sense when Batman only comes out at night.
Night.
Yeah.
He wouldn't have, like, a farmer's tan on his face.
I don't think this guy's seen Batman.
Bat.
The bats, the famously... The animal famously around during the daytime.
Yeah.
Blowing it, bud.
Oh, he acknowledges that the fucking libertarian government here in Argentina might might flop.
But they'll blame it on libertarianism.
But the reality is he cut a deal with the devil.
And that's why he will.
Yeah.
Private finance capital.
It's the devil, bro.
To make.
That's who makes up libertarianism.
I want to see a meme he posted.
Oh yeah!
Hell yeah!
He shared...
He shared the story from Seattle about the landlord's rights protest that happened outside the guy who's squatting in the Seattle homeowner's home or whatever.
Why are you complaining about sky-high rent when we live in the era of, quote, squatter's rights?
The laws for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
Yeah, that's so true.
Why are you complaining about high rents when there's, like, this one guy in Seattle is squatting?
Yeah.
Hello.
Duh.
Thank you, Batman.
Thank you, Bruce Wayne.
Appreciate you, Batman.
Yeah, beautiful.
Alright, well that's DEI.
I hope everybody learned something.
I hope maybe you'll be able to take some of this information back to your most insane friends and relatives and give like an alternate explanation for why the world is the way it is.
Why things are happening that are hard to understand for some people.
And let them know that you listen to a show that is hosted by a black pilot who has no crashes on his record.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
Don't tell them about the Communist Teamster on the podcast.
Do not.
Keep that one a secret.
Almost forgot about plugs.
We just were on an episode of Guys with Brian Quimby talking about, God, some of our favorite guys, cop guys, guys who are cops.
A lot of very deranged material on that episode of Guys.
Thanks so much to Brian for having us on.
I was also on an episode of Self Worst with Brad Pearson, fellow Teamster, by the way.
Talk about mental health.
Talk about talked about music.
Fun little chat.
Go check that out.
And I think, Tony, you were just on Radio Free Tote Bag.
Is that right?
Oh, yeah, I was.
Yeah.
Radio Free Tote Bag.
Some of our favorites had a really good chat over there.
Check it out.
Radio Free Tote Bag.
It's everywhere.
You can find podcasts.
Yeah, listen to guys, listen to self-worst, listen to Radio Free Tote Bag.
And you know what?
Why don't you listen to Minion Death Cult too?
Yeah, do that.
Do more of that.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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