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I haven't seen what that's a reference to, but I was listening to Jamiroquai's Virtual Insanity earlier today, and I was like, man, he was trying to warn us.
It is pretty insane online.
He's trying to warn us.
It's pretty crazy online.
I would go back and warn Jamiroquai that that's ableist.
To name your song that.
True.
To use it as a pejorative.
You're making insanity sound like a bad thing.
He's only referring to the algorithm.
The algorithm is what's insane.
He wouldn't talk about a regular person that way.
But, I don't know, man.
Like, do algorithms not have rights now?
I mean... True.
And who made the algorithm, right?
Aren't you all talking about who made the algorithm?
That is true.
And if we know who made the algorithm, it was a scientist.
And... Well, that must mean somebody made us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck.
I'm a Christian now.
God damn it.
You played me right now.
Did I get you?
I didn't expect that to happen on this episode.
Shit.
Are you Christian too?
I think I might be.
I might be coming back.
I think it might be.
That might be the Father's Day.
I should have been celebrating this Sunday.
It was that Father.
Did you see that little video clip I posted?
No.
Some guy, he was like, dear God, happy Father's Day.
Thank you being for being a great father.
Wow.
And I was like, for real, I wonder how like that guy's dad feels hearing that.
I don't know.
He raised, he raised him.
So true.
Probably like, yep, I did that.
This shit is fucking... This episode's gonna be banging.
Sorry, I'm like... I'm looking at like... fucking 12 different links right now.
I think the good thing is that there is a, like, we, people who are listening kind of know what's up.
They're like, oh man, they're inundated.
There's too much good stuff right now.
They don't even know which, which direction to go with the, with, with the virtual, um, oh, the virtual, um.
Insanity?
Shit.
Like Jamiroquai's saying about it?
What are we going to say?
What are we going to talk about?
Neurodivergence.
We can't say, we can't say it.
Virtual neurodivergence.
Virtual No World Divergence.
That's hard to do.
That's a tough one.
That was... You could probably do it.
Virtual No World Divergence.
Hey, there it was.
It's tough.
It's tough.
I would just like the Virtual Divergence, the excellent film series in virtual reality, please.
On Apple Vision.
Wow, it feels like I'm watching a bigger TV.
Is this what it feels like to have a big TV?
This is nuts.
That's smart, because we won't have room for big TVs soon.
You still only have a limited field of vision in your eyeball, you know?
I don't know.
Yeah, what's up everybody?
It's your episode for the week.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
More Trump campaign stuff.
Did you see where he went into the Cuban restaurant and said, food for everyone and then walked out?
That's such a baller move.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
And like, the funny thing is, it's such a beautiful metaphor for him, you know?
Because I don't think people, do you think people, did people get mad in the moment there?
Or were they like, oh, there must have been a miscommunication.
Something must have happened wrong here.
The argument, we'll get into the defense, the Trump defense of this, but the argument is that the people there, they love Trump more than they love food.
So they just followed Trump out of the restaurant and therefore he didn't have to pay for anyone's food.
It's like that study, uh, where a baby, a baby chimp will, uh, go to the soft, you know, fake mother, uh, rather than the, the like metal hard mother that has a bottle with food attached to it.
Like how, you know, despite there being like delicious Cuban food on one, uh, sort of mechanical robotic teat, They would rather go to the soft, plush, golden flaxen embrace of Donald Trump.
Trump voter a lot like a baby monkey.
I've said this many times.
They literally have the, you know, million dollar dinner with Jay-Z, except for it was, you know, free dinner or be kind of close to Trump.
And they chose kind of close to Trump.
Think about how much you're going to learn just by following Trump out that door instead of, you know, what, you can get food anywhere at any time.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, and chances are, if you follow him long enough, you might catch a stray Big Mac or something.
I think you learn a valuable lesson that you can just say anything, and if enough people like you, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter whether it's immediately proven to be fake or craven or whatever.
Oh, it's so good.
Food for everyone!
Bye!
And it didn't even leave a credit card, apparently.
In his defense, he didn't say, I'm buying food for everyone.
Oh, that's true.
Food for everyone.
Yeah.
You're in a restaurant.
Everyone should get some food.
That's really what he was saying.
Yeah.
There's actually no discrimination policy.
You know, if you're a you might be a protected class.
They still can't refuse you service.
It's so good.
Bye.
Yeah, listen, I want everyone to be able to get food here if they so choose to pay for it.
I'm reading from and that's the kind of president he'll be for you folks.
President for everybody who eats food.
Rudy from Newsweek here.
Fact check.
Did Trump offer to buy food in Miami but leave without paying?
This is this is how we're going to got to explore the story.
Donald Trump's appearance in Florida this week after being arraigned on 37 federal charges related to alleged mishandling of classified documents did not run entirely smoothly, with a protester managed managing to jump in front of the former president's motorcade.
Uh, I didn't hear about that.
Don't, that's probably not a good way to protest Trump.
Just dying, throwing yourself in front of a car.
Haha.
You killed me.
I don't, I don't know if that's, that's good.
You're, you're just gonna, all you're going to do is like give them fodder for jokes and they're going to be like, Oh look, he's like one of us.
He also wants to run people over.
Yeah.
That's going to be like president Trump's most based moment.
You don't want to give him that.
Um, Protests are managing to jump in front of the former president's motorcade.
Trump's visit to the Miami restaurant Versailles after his arraignment Tuesday was also a host to hostility after a UK news reporter was called a stupid bitch by a Trump supporter after asking whether the Republican 2024 presidential frontrunner was prepared to go to jail.
Like, what did he say there?
Like, of course he is, you stupid bitch.
Like, what?
Why was that, like, the angry response?
Is there audio of this?
There's a video attached to it.
No, it's like an infographic video.
Man, they took pivot to video seriously.
It's just all text.
It's all text and still images.
This is great.
OK.
Claims also began spreading on social media after his trip, alleging that he'd offered to buy supporters and turnouts food, but wound up, quote, stiffing the restaurant by not paying the bill.
The claim, and then it lists the tweets who just, you know, reiterate what I just said.
Donald Trump's stiffed Miami restaurant where when he did a public publicity stunt after arrest and arraignment he announced he was paying for Trump just like is a publicity stunt I don't know if you could call anything any individual thing Trump does a publicity stunt is he's just like keeping it real like that's just how he keeps it real publicity stunt is his baseline after the facts this is this is uh this the whatever sub headline the facts
After his arraignment on Tuesday, the former president visited Versailles Bakery in Miami, where he was greeted by a large crowd of press and supporters.
The adjoining Versailles restaurant has been a publicity haunt for former presidents, including Barack Obama and George W. Bush.
Almost the entire visit was recorded by WPLG, whose footage shows Trump saying in the direction of the kitchen, Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Food for everyone!
Food for everyone!
He was really just saying, ready, set, cook!
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody make food for everyone.
You guys are doing the food for everyone!
Um, however, as can be seen from the video, the eatery was packed with security, press and supporters and did not seem to have or be serving any customers.
Later in the footage, the cameraman moves through the restaurant's kitchen, which didn't show any food preparation or cooking.
What if Trump was just like, well, I just thought that's like what you say in restaurants.
You know, it's like salute.
That's like tradition.
Yeah.
I was just offering goodwill to every food.
I wish food upon everybody.
Yeah, it's because he doesn't go to like real restaurants.
So this is pretty weird for him.
Yeah, actually.
How do you get in that circuit?
How do you get on the like restaurant president's go to circuit?
I don't know.
Cuban immigrants in Florida.
I like.
Well, for one thing, that's definitely going to get you, I don't know, considered.
But there's also probably like 13000 restaurants from Cuban immigrants just in like each county of Florida.
I would love to know what Trump's order from a Cuban restaurant is, because I don't think it exists.
I can't imagine him eating anything from a Cuban restaurant.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I haven't eaten in a Cuban restaurant, so I really can't throw stones.
But you would, though.
Totally would.
I think you would, though, yeah.
Absolutely.
I have a little multicolored meme in my lawn that says, in this house, we would eat at a Cuban restaurant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you're not, you're like not, you're, you're down for plantains.
I feel like plantains would freak them out.
Oh, I've had like fried plantains.
Is that Cuban?
They, I mean, Cuban, Cubans eat them.
Yeah.
Okay.
There we go.
I've eaten, I've practically eaten at a Cuban restaurant.
Um, Later, it was only shortly after this that Trump left stopping by for about 10 minutes.
It's great.
And it's like, it's not even like malicious.
Trump is not just like, I don't know.
I'm not in the business of defending Trump, but it's just like, he doesn't mean it like, ha ha ha, I'm getting away with something.
He just likes to make people like him.
And he says things that will make people like him in the moment.
And he knows that's a popular thing to say.
Like other human beings have said that on TV that he's seen before.
And received cheers and applause.
Also, I, I, I feel like he should have somebody on his staff who like it.
He gets to say, food for everyone.
And then it's not like, I can't imagine him going through the steps to making sure the food's taken care of.
I feel like there's someone on his staff that should be the guy that's like, hey, let me just write you, let me just, can I just order 50 sandwiches?
That's what you mean by food for everyone?
Like, I don't even, I don't think this is his, this is not malicious or his fault, really, at all.
That's, yeah, no, once again, it's the employee who has dropped the ball.
Yeah.
I didn't think about that.
I didn't think about the people, the workers, the workers who are working on Trump.
Uh, yeah.
So their argument is that nobody even wanted anything.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
So there, I don't know.
Did anybody complain about not getting food?
They were like, Oh fuck.
I haven't eaten in a while.
And I was like, awesome.
Not just food, but good food and for free and from Donald Trump.
And I will forever say that one time Donald Trump bought me dinner.
It appears that no order was made and the restaurant may not have been in a position to honor requests at the time, given the number of people in the van.
So again, it's like not only was Trump promising something he didn't deliver on, just promising something that was literally impossible, something that was never, ever going to happen.
It rocks so hard.
There is no evidence that the restaurant or anyone else at Versailles was shortchanged by the former president, as some of the social media posts suggest.
Man, that is kind of like a good metaphor for Trump.
Trump comes Trump comes into an establishment, says some really stupid shit that gets some people excited and other people like that doesn't make any sense.
And then when he leaves, nothing is changed.
And it's the status quo, essentially.
Got a lot of people riled up, but essentially, yeah, just more of the same asshole.
Well, I mean, the idea of food for everyone is fantastic.
Mm hmm.
And he did get the he did put the idea out there and you can't kill an idea.
So I think there is value in this.
OK, and they have the little graphic here.
The ruling.
Unverified.
I do like how they're like, oh, there's some gray area in this one.
Kind of a cop out again, just more of the same.
The status quo upholding the median.
Great, great stuff.
So not to be outdone by Donald Trump in his own state of Florida, DeSantis had a bit of a clapback for this.
People are saying, you know, saying what he's, he's never going to win or he's never going to gain the polls if he's like afraid of the frontrunner and like afraid to, you know, denigrate him or, or push back against him.
Well, here you go folks.
Uh, this is Ron Filipowski.
I can't, I can't, Filipkowski.
I can't remember who this guy, if he's a, Uh, he looks like a liberal, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah, he does look like a liberal, I'll say that.
Yeah, okay, so this is a liberal guy.
Uh, DeSantis trolls Trump by handing out free beer after Trump promised diners food and didn't pay for any.
And we have DeSantis behind the bar.
It looks like either a Vets bar or maybe it is like a VFW of some kind because it's got like murals on the wall of medals and awards and things like that.
I think it's a night at Columbus Hall, which is like specifically Catholic.
Sick.
He's behind the bar.
It's fairly crowded.
I mean, you see maybe like, you know, 40 people here in this shot.
And he's talking with the patrons here.
He raises a beer and he says, does anyone want a draft on the house?
Here we go.
All right.
Is that a trip question?
And he handed the beer that he was holding to one guy.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
He did.
Again, words are important.
Does anybody want a draft on the house?
Does anybody want a draft on the house?
He should have said this draft on the house.
That would have been more honest.
Right.
Yeah.
And they could have all split it too.
You know, get, get little shot glasses out.
This is such a this is such an example of, you know, how like the rich just give less like there's there's probably I mean, within this little line up here, there's probably maybe 40 people in this room, maybe.
You know, I like to think that if I was like the governor, I would, I would buy 40 beers and I'm sure they would give me some sort of deal.
Like you'd probably only have to pay cost and the overhead on beers is amazing.
So you'd probably get a good deal on this.
No, because you got to like look up the ownership history of whatever beer you're serving.
And that, that takes time.
And cause you don't want to get caught serving a gay beer to your Republican voters.
That's very true.
Literally turning, like, bimbifying your supporters.
How much longer are they going to support you if you do that?
That's true.
Yeah.
And like, because then you're now you're now you're poisoning them.
I mean, think about it.
I think both of us in our lives have probably bought more than 40 beers at a time.
You've probably bought a 24 pack twice.
Mm hmm.
You know, like, that's pretty It's a pretty low bar, but I gotta give it to him.
We did watch somebody drink a beer that they didn't pay for, that I don't think DeSantis paid for either.
I think that was like a... He poured it out of the... Look at me pouring a beer.
I can pour a beer.
Got behind the bar and poured it out of the tap.
I don't think he's keeping score.
If I were running for governor, I would buy a beer flute for everybody.
Wow.
A flight?
A flute.
What's the flute?
Well, I guess they don't make, you'd have to like find dead stock of the three packs of Tallboys that Budweiser, Bud Light, Bud Ice.
Ooh, baby.
Yeah, yeah.
If I ever run for Governor, three packs of Bud Ice for every man, woman, and child.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
That's a meal.
All right, let's see if he says any more weird stuff in this video.
I'll tell you what, let's do a toast.
Thanks for your service.
Thank you, sir.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Yeah, are you going to go?
Okay.
Oh, are you going to go?
Okay.
Hell yeah.
I actually love that.
I love that.
He's so cool.
Oh, you're going to be there?
Cool, cool, cool.
Cool.
I'll see you there.
All right.
He is... Big ups.
They're not going to see him tomorrow.
No.
He is trying to act cool when he says things like, okay.
We're like, when somebody tells him their name, it's like, okay.
Like that's him.
That's him trying to be cool.
That's him trying not to get too excited about meeting a new person.
Yeah.
That's him playing it cool.
Yeah.
Some of the responses to this were, uh, really annoying.
Right here, Dr. Zoiberg says, Governor Ron DeSantis needs to sell this anti-TFG.
You know what TFG stands for, Tony?
No.
It's what they call Trump.
Anything?
Trump.
No, you're never going to get it.
It's insane.
It's the former guy.
Oh my god.
Yeah, I would have never got that.
Okay, so Governor Ron DeSantis needs to tell this anti-TFG.
I read it like BF, like big fucking giant Steven Spielberg.
Big friendly giant.
Oh.
Well, then I guess I read it as something else entirely.
He needs to sell this anti-Trump bit as quote, don't avoid the draft.
Or something more clever.
Oh, oh, draft.
This is a pun.
He said, wow, does anybody want any bone spur?
I mean, beer.
Do that one.
There was another response.
It was crazy.
I can't fight it, but it was just like giving out free beer.
Isn't that the same as buying votes?
Aren't you?
Aren't you just?
Is that legal?
Just buying votes?
Yeah, I think you might want to consider that with your plan, because I'm not sure if your plan would hold up if you show up on election day.
Show me your sticker and you'll get a beer flute.
No, it's my, the beers wouldn't be contingent on who they vote for.
They just have, they're just like, vote for whoever made you feel the best, you know?
Yeah.
And you know, you gotta be real, because you're telling me right now you'd have a beer with me.
By taking this beer, you're saying you'd have a beer with me, which basically means you'd vote for me.
So, I don't know.
I mean, I see DeSantis rising in polls after this beer he gave out to that guy.
I think.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a good look.
Boy, yeah.
Looked good.
I love watching men drink beer.
There's only one beer left.
Rappers screaming all in our ears like we're deaf.
Temp me, do a number on a label.
Beat up all the MCs and drink them under the table like it's on me.
Put it on my tab, kid, however you get there.
Footed, cab it, iron horse it.
Okay, did you see this interview with an anonymous Apple TV+ executive?
No.
Yeah.
Boots Riley shared it.
Shout out to Boots Riley.
But a lot of the WGA writers are sharing this because this is, of course, concerning the strike.
This is an interview about the strike with allyourscreens.com.
This is by Rick Ellis.
In February, I posted some thoughts from an anonymous Netflix executive who discussed many rooms and other issues that were likely To be part of the upcoming negotiations with the WGA.
This week, I spoke with an executive at Apple TV+, who also agreed to talk as long as their anonymity was preserved.
It was a wide-ranging conversation.
Question, we're a bit more than a month into the WGA strike.
What is your sense on how it's going from the studio side?
Answer.
To be clear, I am not part of the direct conversations, or I don't have any direct responsibility on negotiating strategy, but I do have a pretty good perspective on where we are as a company.
Like most of the people who aren't C-suite management, I am sympathetic to a lot of the arguments put forth by writers.
I think the current mini-room situation has had a real impact on the future of our industry, and we definitely need to figure out a way to train young writers.
I don't know if we've talked about this on this episode.
Other places have covered it more extensively.
The mini rooms are essentially a shortcut, a backdoor to getting an entire season of a show made by having a bunch of underpaid young writers Basically write an entire season of a show in a very short period of time with very few writers and then they hire like an executive writer to clean everything up at the end.
And not only is this a way of undercutting labor and lowering labor costs because you're not hiring the correct amount of Or the necessary amount of writers for like the necessary length of time because writers have to be involved in the production side of things as well to make sure there's there aren't continuity errors for scenes that haven't been filmed or won't be filmed for a year or something like that.
Not only is it that, it's also depriving young writers of the normal process of making a show where you would learn from senior writers who would be the showrunner.
The senior writers would be the showrunners or the producers, and they would have their writers there, and they would, you know, learn from that leadership.
Well, when you have these many rooms, you don't have that.
And so not only is it impacting the writers, it's also impacting the quality of content that they're producing.
Um, and it's impacting the future labor pool that they have to draw from, because like, where are they going to get those executive experienced, right?
I'm using executive loosely.
I mean, like experienced writers, you know, if, if no writer can ever get enough steady work to be experienced or to have a Birds eye view of the entire process because they want to keep these people as like siloed off from each other as possible Much in the same way that Amazon likes to separate its workers.
So I mean, but you know WGR already has a union so it doesn't work as well Yeah, it's also a huge issue with the product itself because if you don't have the same writers involved with a series throughout the writing of that series, you can tell.
You can tell that there was no one there to see this through.
There was no one there who cared about this.
Oh, they might have cared about it, but they didn't get a chance to, you know, illustrate that because it really does get like, yeah, it gets it gets like starts one place and then ends another place.
And it'd be, you know, and it's not a collaboration like like they want to make it seem, really.
So it shows in the product.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, so the miniroom situation has had a real impact on the future of our industry, so it must be extremely bad if even the company side is admitting that the minirooms don't work, or the minirooms are not conducive to a future in the industry.
Yeah, we definitely need to figure out a way to train young writers.
AI can do that, right?
You know, we trained the AI, so obviously the AI could then train other people.
Have they thought about sending them like a Skillshare class?
What is that?
I don't know what that is.
It's like an online learning thing where it's like you can take a bunch of different classes.
Just send them an online class about being writers.
Oh yeah, like a master class.
Master class, yeah.
Get, what, David Fincher to teach him how to write a thriller for 10 minutes?
Something like that?
I mean, I think we just have M. Night Shyamalan doing all.
I think that's... Imagine if every single type of genre had his keen eye on it.
Yeah, I bet M. Night Shyamalan could write a good drama.
I bet he would write an interesting drama.
Yeah, I mean, he can write a comedy, I'll tell you that much.
That's so true.
Some of those movies are so funny.
OK, which gets back to, OK, that being said, this is all about money.
Any streaming platform is looking for cost savings anywhere they can be found.
Is it coming out of the writer's pockets?
For sure.
But it's not personal.
This isn't a matter of not wanting to pay writers what they're worth.
But when we are trying to watch budgets, you cut anywhere you can.
And the truth is that includes writers and other support staff.
That never includes us.
In fact, there's more of us than there ever have been.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's wild.
I just love that whole thing when they somehow separate jobs and labor value from like it being personal.
That's so funny to me.
It's actually almost the most personal.
Well, okay, so it's very personal for me and you.
Theoretic.
Neither of us are writers, but in this scenario, I don't think either of us would be the executive.
It would be very personal for you.
It would be very personal if you were the one being fired or you were the one being deprived of work or whatever.
But you would still know, oh, this isn't personal for the CEO.
This is like, A logical, this is a logical, rational decision on their end that benefits them and hurts me.
Therefore, they are my enemy.
Therefore, they are my natural, not just, not just an enemy because of personal reasons, because we've already established there aren't personal reasons involved at least one way.
No, they're my enemy because of the natural law, the natural relationship of capital and labor.
Bigger than us.
Yeah.
Uh, which gets back to my point about the strike.
The only way writers will get more money or time or anything else is by getting what they want into a contract.
Ding, ding, ding.
Yeah.
Uh, working harder will not set you free.
It's only, it's only, uh, yeah.
Getting, getting that shit in writing.
Um, okay.
Question.
How effective are the WGA memes that contrast the pay of top executives with the rates spent on writers?
Answer.
Oh, it's a fine PR move.
Oh, the memes are pretty dank.
I mean, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll give him that.
I'll give him that.
It's a fine PR move, but it doesn't move the dial in negotiations.
Media companies don't see the world that way.
You could cut the CEO pay in half, but that doesn't mean the money will end up in the pockets of writers.
Can you?
It doesn't seem like you can.
No, yeah, I don't think you can.
I think if that was a possibility, that might have happened.
I don't know.
I mean, it wouldn't hurt getting into the writer's pockets.
There's a better chance of it going into the writer's pockets if it's cut from somewhere else.
Like the idea that they've ever cut CEO pay in order to like better manage it come like maybe you know that one guy that one cool millionaire did it to himself he cut his Salary down to sixty nine thousand or whatever it was four hundred and twenty thousand dollars yeah No, no what they do is they pay themselves until the thing the the thing the business the whatever goes bankrupt and
And then they pay themselves even more on top of that.
They will like you can't say that, oh, you could cut CEO pay.
Sure.
No, you can't.
Because they're the ones deciding.
You could cut the CEO pay in half, but that doesn't mean the money will end up in the pockets of writers.
This isn't a situation where streaming companies don't appreciate the value of writing in the content ecosystem.
Oh, no, they appreciate it.
They know.
They know that it's valuable.
They just don't want to give you money for it.
Like, it's pretty simple.
We do, but we will pay the absolute minimum we can.
There it is.
Absolutely.
Like that sucks so bad.
You're hearing him say it.
Yeah.
Well, because that's the rational decision.
If you're on that side of things, that's the rational decision.
Uh, we will pay the absolute minimum we can.
Yeah.
That's like, I don't know if you're selling your labor, that's one thing you need to fucking realize that like your boss is not going to like pay you out of the kindness of their heart.
They're paying you because they legally have to.
Yeah, yeah.
If they can pay less, they will find a way.
That's the bottom line.
But we will pay the absolute minimum we can.
I see people online blaming streaming for all of this, but this is how all businesses work.
Ding, ding, ding.
Correct.
When a company moves its factory to Mexico or its customer service functions to Costa Rica, it's not personal.
It's not because that company's executives hate their employees or don't value them.
It's just a simple profit loss equation.
And that's the case here.
See, we're demons.
We operate on like a totally different plane of existence than you.
And it's it's like, do the.
Do the robots in the Matrix really like concern themselves with whether it's ethical or not to harvest another year's worth of batteries?
No, that's that they only care about efficiency.
And I like it's kind of funny because they do that.
They do.
You know, they talk about.
Exporting labor like that, you know, outsourcing labor like that, they are saying out loud, oh, also don't don't just to make it clear, like Your humanity was never a factor in this.
I want that.
So it's not personal.
Yeah.
Cause we don't care about.
We don't see you as human.
We don't care about the welfare of the people who are producing our goods.
We just care about getting the goods for as little as possible.
So just to show you that we are going to go ahead and use like closest slave labor in other countries.
Yeah.
I mean, it's that cliche where it's like, you're a line on a spreadsheet to these people.
You absolutely are.
You're an expense.
You're an expense that they would cross, put a line through immediately if they could.
Yeah.
Again, not because they hate you or they're evil in the romantic sense of the word.
It's just their interests are the opposite of yours.
Yeah.
It's a simple profit-loss equation.
And that's the case here.
Streaming platforms are going to pay the least amount they can for everything, writers included.
Uh, yeah, I mean, like, textbook example of why you need a union.
Because you need to be as strong as possible when you are fighting these demons.
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but writers tend to be smart and love what they do, but they can also think they're the center of the fucking universe.
I know this strike is personal for them.
I get it.
I'd feel the same way, but this is all just numbers for the studios.
What's the least amount we can get away with paying for everything?
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for saying it.
It's weird how like they know what a writer is, but they don't really know what a writer is because they don't understand like the whole, that's the, that's the jump off for the whole thing.
The whole thing starts with writer.
Like you can't, there's no, you know, there's not really much that can happen without them.
They are very important, but they don't, for me, they don't see that.
They literally think AI is going to replace them.
Yeah.
That's, that's, that's what they are begging for.
Yeah.
All right, next question.
The WGA has released some charts comparing the amount of money each company or studio is losing during the strike compared to what it would cost them just to agree to the union's demands.
What's your take on that?
He answers, again, it's apples and oranges.
It's not that simple.
Let's say agreeing to every union demand would cost $40 million a year.
That's not a one-off $40 million cost.
That's at least $40 million a year forever.
That's right.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, until you can, like, just strategically bankrupt the company and suck every last drop out of it.
That's yes, you will have to honor these contracts.
But that contract also sets also it's like, yeah, we know it's 40 million a year.
That's that's still like a pittance.
Yeah, we also do know how much you guys make and why this is not unreasonable.
We've done a little tiny bit of math here.
The second paragraph here, the second part of his answer is really revealing though.
He says, but that contract also sets the bar for writers in other territories or encourages industries in some countries to unionize in order to make more money.
It's not so much the direct costs of the WGA deal.
It's all of the fallout costs across the company.
Uh, the other places where they can outsource labor, uh, to cheaper worker, you know, cheaper pay, uh, less paid workers.
Uh, and those, those workers might realize, Hey, they got something that the company needs too.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
Like, no, you don't understand like this might positively impact other workers.
Not even, not even in this country.
Yeah.
Have you thought about that?
Wow, it's almost like borders are fake for capital and strictly enforced against labor.
Weird how that happens.
Yeah, I love it.
No, the reason we don't want to give in to the writer's demands is because of how important they are.
Like, uh, however, you know, uh, I, I just want to let everybody know how important it is, uh, how, how, how much this contract affects, uh, the world around you, how much influence they actually have, how much weight they actually swing.
Now where they're important, but we're not saying they're valuable.
That's different.
Yeah, it's like they're doing the, this is the most important election of your lifetime on their end for themselves.
Uh, but I think it's real for them.
I think this is like, it's, it's a turning moment in, in labor history.
Um, and other people are obviously already inspired across the country and across the world, you know?
Um, There's been a wave of direct actions, labor actions, and it is inspiring.
There's more to come.
There's the potential Teamsters strike, there's the A potential automaker's strike, I believe.
Yeah, so... Yeah, this summer's gonna get rowdy, I think.
I like it.
Insider just won their strike.
Just won a fair contract from their strike.
Cool.
So, yeah, it is an inspiring moment to be on the labor side of things, and they know.
I just love it that they're like, oh no, we're fighting so hard because this is really important, and we can't let you guys win.
Yeah.
And like, mind you too, they haven't even, um, you know, like if you, if you go on, if you go on strike, you know, soon, then that means that right away package is not getting delivered.
Right.
But like the WGA, you know, and the, you know, the entertainment industry right now, they're just barely starting to really feel the actual repercussions.
They're barely starting to not have a product or a service come to fruition because of this.
And like, so like, you know, This this coming up late summer fall season when things just don't exist It's gonna be you know that that's that's like I think it's only gonna be more more inspiring.
Yeah, absolutely There was one last thing here that was kind of interesting They're asking about the Directors Guild of America Where do they fit into all this?
Why do you think they agreed to the contract?
He says that the difference between directors and writers is directors can be replaced.
The golden ticket for every major streamer is to be able to produce a show that looks like it was produced in the US, but that was shot overseas with non-union crews and only a handful of American actors.
Damn.
Yeah, good shit.
That's why all those new Netflix movies are so good.
Despite all of their other issues, American writers are tough to replace.
Despite all of their other issues, like being human, needing vacation time, needing maternity leave.
Yeah, existing in America.
Yeah.
Aside from all their issues, actually, they're incredibly important.
And it sucks.
It sucks.
Because, you know, we wouldn't do it otherwise.
We found, and I think Netflix has the same experience, that writing is a very culturally specific thing.
It has a vibe that is nearly impossible to recreate without having grown up in that culture.
It's tough to write a South Korean romcom unless you grew up there, and it's the same way with American shows.
You need an American writer, or someone with very similar Canadian, maybe British or Australian...
Otherwise, the scripts feel different in a way that audiences notice.
But you know what?
Directing is universal.
You don't need to understand American football or love apple pies to direct a series.
You can be born in Croatia and do just fine with a big budget American series.
I guess you can make money that way, sure.
But I think he's also saying you can do it if the writing is there.
You can be the Ukrainian director.
If the writing is there, then you can still do it.
I mean, if you got American actors who aren't total weirdos, then you could probably do it.
But if you got him like.
American actors who I guess maybe have reading comprehension issues and they're trying to do the line and don't know contextually what the line is, how it's supposed to go.
I feel like somebody also being immersed in the English language or American relationships or, you know, mannerisms at least would be able to direct and act.
I don't know.
I'm being petty about it.
That's what a director does, is he tells you how you're feeling in this moment and feels like you'd have to know the culture to know how that person would be feeling in their own culture.
But again, the writing will have an emotional bracket in there.
You'll have a stage direction.
Yeah.
We'll say, you know... Sad.
Straight shook.
That's when it's going to be a problem.
Yeah, no, I would get that if I read that.
when they say, "Uh oh, I don't know how to illustrate that." - Hmm.
Yeah, no, I would get that if I read that. - Well, I mean, yeah, 'cause you're an American. - Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I love it.
They're pretty much irreplaceable, incredibly important, and this contract fight in particular, extremely important.
I love just reinforcing how important it is for the writers to win this, because that's only going to strengthen their resolve, I think.
It's only going to confirm Their propaganda, their propaganda of how necessary they are and how afraid the studios are of an organized labor force and how the only they're playing their only cards right now, which is to, like, try and starve them out.
You know, we'll see how long they last.
But yeah, good luck and solidarity and everybody in the WGA.
We're rooting for you.
Yeah.
Okay.
Moving on to our, I think our last topic of the night. I think our last topic of the night.
Tony.
Okay.
I think it could be... I think it could be safely said that you work from home.
Yeah, I work from home.
Okay, so the Daily Mail here has an insight as to what your descendants will look like.
And I think they're not too far off.
Yeah, if this is what you were referencing earlier... I mean, this does look like Tony's future wife.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I mean, this does look like Tony's future wife in like...
Absolutely.
You know, when you're both like 70 years old.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, looking great.
Like all, you know, this is a seven year old woman.
Like this is, she's looking fantastic.
Swollen us.
Why is like the, the ancestors old?
That's a weird, you never see, like you never see like the, your lineage being presented as old.
Why is the descendants old?
Well, I think what they're trying to say is maybe this is like a young, vibrant 21 year old.
It's just such a dystopia.
So this is from the Daily Mail.
Swollen eyes, a hunchback, and claw-like hands.
Grotesque model reveals what remote workers will look like in 70 years.
Is this like one of those things where an artist did this?
A quote artist did this?
Yeah.
I don't know if artist is the right word.
I think the closer term would be furniture salesman.
This is mocked up by a furniture company.
This is something I don't know if artist is the right word.
It's I think the closer term would be furniture salesman.
This is mocked up by a furniture company, Furniture at Work.
OK, so that's that's the big reveal in this is that it is an ad for expensive home furniture, because unless you buy furniture from Furniture at Work, this is what you'll look like.
You know, they might be on to something because, like, you know, I really feel like my body's gone to shit since I've been sitting since I've been working from home in my bad chair.
I need a furniture from work chair.
It's furniture at work, folks.
Make sure you go chair.
Yeah.
Make sure you go to the official website and purchase one.
She's got a camel toe, dude.
She's got a fupa and a camel toe.
Yeah.
I'm not joking.
Yeah.
The details are good.
It's wild.
She's got stains on her pink, uh, what do we call a tank top?
I guess like a ribbed tank top.
Well, this is like a two piece, this is like a two piece like fitness outfit.
It's like pink, like, um, like fab fabletics would make this outfit.
Uh, do you think she has all the stains on her belly?
Do you think that that's also, like, uh, evolutionarily related?
Like, uh, her claw-like hands keep spilling food all over her belly?
Or maybe that's where her new, like, sweat glands have accumulated because it's, I don't know, exposed out in front of her when she sits down?
They've just socially accepted that you don't, like...
The woke mob has banned napkins and paper towels.
So like, they just accept that you wipe your greasy claw hands.
Let me see them hands.
What's up with those hands?
They're not, they're just like, the hands are just hands that where they're a little curled, right?
They're nothing.
They don't look different than the other.
It looks like she's carrying groceries.
They should have done like a long, like a really long index finger.
Yeah, you should have like developed like a flatter fingertips for swiping on the screen.
Yeah.
And then one of the, or maybe like one of the fingertips is to like, like you said, like a fine point or something.
And that's your stylus.
The thumb would for sure have to change, right?
Because there's a lot of implications about being on your phone too.
And like, I don't, I have a, I rock a 12 mini.
That's the phone I have.
I have large hands.
I don't get how people use these iPhone pros.
With small hands.
So I thought maybe there would be an extended thumb variation, but there's nothing at the hands.
Yeah, you'd think the thumb would be really muscular.
That's the joke, right?
Like, oh, they don't have grip strength, but don't challenge them to a thumb war.
I don't know if that's a real joke.
I believe it.
I'm pretty bad at thumb war.
Yeah, I don't know if I believe this, Tony.
I mean, like, your boobs are all saggy, too, because you work from home?
Like, what?
I don't know.
I think the only real thing, because this person, this woman looks like... I've seen a million women who look like this, except for maybe the spine thing going on.
The spine's kind of wild.
The spine's, like, protruding pretty bad.
She has kind of, like, a flat butt.
Also, her veins are nuts on the back of her leg.
Like, they're not colored, they're just raised.
She's, like, incredibly vascular.
That'd make her beefy.
Those aren't varicose veins, those are beefcake veins.
Oh, yeah, totally.
I was gonna say, her leg is a map of the world.
It's like not that outrageous, this person.
And also maybe she's interestingly pale.
Because I don't think she goes outside, but I think I go outside in the sun more now that I work from home than when I worked.
I know you're going to have literally more free time.
You're probably going to be sitting down less.
I mean, let's get into this article.
Okay.
While working from home was once a rare treat, it has become the norm for millions of people following the COVID-19 pandemic.
And we're all fucking furious.
Right, Tony?
We fucking hate that.
I'm pissed off.
How dare you work in a different chair than a... I want you to work in the chair I own.
Is that so weird?
Is that so weird I have to own your chair?
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
No, it's pretty... I think... No, they should also own my chair in the sense they should pay for my chair.
Sure.
You know, but that's really it.
I don't know.
How many office workers have a nice chair that work in an office?
Maybe now, maybe the woke corporations are getting nice chairs.
I kind of doubt it.
That's the whole thing, right, is that you're not supposed to, if you're from home, you're not supposed to get a gaming chair, because gaming chairs are just flashy and cool looking.
If you want to get an actual comfortable chair to sit in for a long time, you get a chair made by an office furniture manufacturer, because they have an incentive for keeping people comfortable in their seats.
Yeah, whatever you do, you do not order a standing desk.
On the internet that weighs 85 pounds and have the UPS guy deliver it to you.
Don't do that, yeah.
Those are actually really bad for you.
Science has come out and said standing, one of the worst things you can do while you're working.
They don't recommend it.
I've heard that.
The ones who do say, well, it's okay as long as you're using a tall countertop or something that's already in your home.
Something you already own.
It's best to have something that's already pre-built in your home.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
The actual though, I think it's the, the 5G exposure and transportation from the warehouse to, there's no way you're going to get them.
Yeah, those standing desks, they're actually not tuned to 440 Hertz.
How would you feel if I started recording while I was standing?
Would that be, there's no, there's no way I'd be able to do it.
I'd be, I would, I already wandered from the mic so much now that I'm in a chair right in front of it.
Well, you'd have to get one of those headset mics, like a TED Talk.
Oh, totally.
That way you can pace around.
Widen the frame on the camera a little bit.
Take a step back.
Yeah.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
It's going to be good for my circulation.
But I'm not going to order one.
I'm going to use a pre-built, already existing... I'm actually just going to stack a bunch of books on this current desk and then put a piece of wood over that.
I mean, yeah.
It's the more intelligent thing to do, I think.
But a grotesque new model may have you asking to go back into the office.
Like, who is this?
This is like the most half-assed shit ever.
We showed you a scary- look at this picture we drew!
Aren't you scared?
Don't you want to work in the office now?
Don't you- you have to come back to work or else you're gonna end up looking like this crazy looking bitch over here.
She looks nuts.
Hey, this is you.
I'm gonna draw you as the Soy Jack if you don't go back into work.
Your boss is like, Hey, you know, it smells crazy in there.
You know, it smells crazy in there.
This is like when the strippers formed that union recently, uh, in Hollywood and everybody was like, Oh yeah, well I drew a meme.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, okay.
They have, they're going to get more money now, but that's cool too that you, that you did that.
Like, the strippers, don't they know that their days are numbered?
Like, I have AI, artificially intelligent, generated buff women now.
Like, there are more jack than there'll ever be.
And so I don't need them anymore.
Don't they know that strippers are done?
To me, that's, you know, as a worker and as a humanist, that's completely sickening behavior, Tony.
I think you should go find a nice women's gym.
All right?
Real, real women who've put time and effort into their, their physique and go bother them.
That's like a real, that's like a real like debate that's difficult in your head when you're looking at it.
Because the thing is, there are some real women mixed in with the artificially generated women.
Yeah.
There's a lot of real women.
You gotta look at the hands.
Cause you don't want to say that no woman's capable of looking like that, you know?
Because like, there are plenty of examples of like super jacked women, um, And you know, I think it's cool that everyone, I think everyone should take steroids.
Steroids are for everyone, okay?
That's what I'm saying.
Alright, everyone can take steroids.
I mean, if you're looking at AI porn, isn't it the same ethical problem as looking at AI art, or enjoying it, or buying it?
I would never jerk off to art.
Participating in it?
That's not, you know, it doesn't have to be, I would never jerk off to art, it's okay.
What I'm saying is the problem that people have with AI artists, one of the main problems, is that it's like a plagiarism machine.
It's just copying everybody else's art.
It's bad.
And tweaking it or blending it together, which sure is something that humans do all the time, but they get called out on it.
Isn't it- wouldn't it be the same for porn?
Wouldn't you be, like, stealing real- It'd be like revenge porn.
The ultimate, like, revenge porn.
Yeah, unfortunately, the sad truth of that is the thing that makes the AI-generated porn so problematic is that people put real people's names into the algorithm and try to make real people.
That's so fucking wild.
AI-generated art sucks, but also so does art kind of sucks right now.
Art's pretty Art's pretty bad.
And if your art's good, it doesn't matter if A.I.
art's out.
If A.I.
art exists, it's fine.
There's so much bad stuff anyways, it doesn't make a difference.
But it's bad for everybody, like in porn.
Even the consumer, because now A.I.
is going to generate Photographs of me coming on a printed out picture of a different porn star or a celebrity or something Cutting me out of the process entirely and I definitely can't get off to that If I'm not the one who does it Well, I think this is where, I think this is where the, the Apple vision comes into play because then you are in it.
So you are part of it.
You are part of it still.
That's so funny.
Yeah.
I put myself in this fucking hot ass threesome with two busty babes, two stepsisters.
Look at me.
That's me.
And you're just like watching it.
You're watching yourself do it.
That's pretty cool.
Oh, would there be mirrors in the room?
That's going to glitch for sure, right?
There's no way that's going to work.
Hmm.
Hmm.
They should have it in real time.
Like, have your camera on that way.
Oh no, it's the internet.
It's the internet, so you look in the mirror, but it's the American psycho scene.
So there's a little meme joke for you in your porn.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
Uh, more from this dumb ass article.
Furniture at work has revealed what home workers could look like by the year 2100 and it's not a pretty sight.
Their model dubbed Anna has a hunchback, dark, swollen eyes, uh, and claw like hands as a result from work of working.
You know, I'm gonna assume Anna smokes.
That's the only thing I wouldn't, you know... Vanna's pretty healthy outside of that.
technology, screen exposure, and poor posture.
Yeah, something that people don't already do at home on their free time when they're not at work.
You know, I'm going to assume Anna smokes.
That's the only thing I would, you know, like, if Anna's pretty healthy outside of that, I think Anna's going to be fine.
Do they say how old Anna is?
No, uh, it's, it's... That's really important!
Not going into the office every day and so your boss can like look at you, make sure you're there doing his bidding.
Not doing that actually, you lose some of the elastic in your cheeks and you develop jowls from that.
Because you're not smiling at your co-workers.
You're not building that muscle saying, hi boss, or hey Joe, what do you know?
And yeah, lack of use causes your jowls to look like they're 70 years old.
You've lost that confidence.
You've lost that pep in your step you used to get from when your boss used to like stare at you a little too long.
So you know you look good that day.
And that hasn't happened in a long time.
So like you've just, you've just met, you just, you stopped stretching your face.
And now, now you, now you look, yeah, she looks like 65.
I mean, I'm going to say what we've both been thinking, but maybe you've been too polite or too afraid to say, but I'm going to say it.
Hannah's definitely not wearing makeup here.
And I think that's really contributing to her overall appearance.
Because guess what?
She's at home.
Why does she need to wear makeup?
And it's like, this is what that looks like.
And that brings a whole other layer into it, too.
Would she be this brave to not wear makeup?
If she still went into work, would she have the bravery, the courage to not wear makeup?
In this thing where she's gonna be spread all over the internet, you know?
She looks like if you took the newest version of The Sims and plugged in the white trash shortcut character.
Her eyebrows are so good.
Her eyebrows are wild.
Yeah, I don't know how you'd describe that.
They look like the monarch's eyebrows.
They don't go off of her face, but they're like super long and... They're 2000s eyebrows.
They're 2001 eyebrows, really shaped, but they're low.
They're very low.
Yeah, too low.
That's what's interesting.
But they're shaped nicely.
They look great.
This is so funny, so this is the foundation of it.
The team created Anna following research from the University of Leeds, which they should have given her a futuristic name.
Fucked up there.
I think Anna is, no, Anna's like an acronym for something.
It's gonna come back around, you think?
Like, that's what, that's what, Anna, Anna is a future name.
Okay, hmm.
Oh, oh, it will be an acronym.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Aliens, nanoparticles, neutron, amino acid.
Those are all kind of science future words.
To visualize the effects of not having a proper place to work at home, Furniture at Work used scientific research and worked with healthcare experts to reveal what the remote worker of the future could look like, Furniture at Work explained.
Working from bed has taken its toll on Antwell.
You definitely shouldn't work from bed!
I mean, okay, maybe Anna needed to know that, and somebody should have told her, so fair enough.
Okay, like, real quick, you can work from bed.
Every once in a while you get to work from bed, that's fine, but you shouldn't.
It's not necessarily even about your physical health, it's just your mental health.
Your bed should be for sleeping, you know?
You shouldn't bring your work into bed, it's okay.
I love his head.
Hey doc, would like years of slouching make your back all fucked?
Yeah.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Well, let's plug this into the machine that predicts what slouching will do.
And of course, uh, I forgot to read this part.
Uh, Anna displays many physical effects because of consistent use of technology, screen exposure, and poor posture, as well as highlighting potential mental health issues.
So that's why she also looks bad, uh, is because she's crazy.
You can see, yeah, you can see her mental health issues are being expressed through, um,
I don't know like she's also she's also I don't know I think she's supposed to be supposed to be extra skin or like fat maybe but she looks kind of jacked yeah she's got huge arms like muscular arms those are like biceps try maybe that's it maybe I don't know maybe you can tell that she hits the gym to cope with her mental health issues that's what it is there you go that makes sense
That's so funny.
You can see the reason for her being so ugly is because all the mental health issues that happen when you don't have to go into a fluorescent lit adult daycare for eight hours.
Yeah.
Man.
That's what it is too.
It's like, you can tell that she's sad because she's not wearing makeup.
If she was happy, she'd wear makeup, so she's clearly depressed.
Also, she is frowning.
And I mean, she's clearly single.
No wedding ring on those curled, gnarled fingers.
Yeah.
I don't think they can get them on those claws anyways.
They did manage to render the cat hair all over her pink sport outfit, though.
That was a nice touch.
There's a few different colors of cat hair, so there's multiple cats going on here.
Well, it could be one calico.
You don't know.
True, true.
But we know it's not.
We know it's not one calico.
Some of this looks like badger hair.
Alright.
There's a speech bubble on it.
Coming from out of frame.
Saying, hey lady, you smell like cat piss.
I guess that's kind of illustrating some stuff.
Yeah, man.
Working from bed has taken its toll on Anna, who has hunched back with raised shoulders while staring at a screen all day has given her red, swollen eyes.
What the fuck is she gonna do at work?! !
If she's not staring at a screen, I don't know.
Long hours with her hand curled around her mouse has caused her fingers to curl into a permanent claw.
Definitely, yeah.
The home worker in the future, the year 2100, is going to be using a corded mouse at their desktop PC.
Yeah, I think you really need to like, you need to maybe look into like a two, a two touch, a two point touch mouse, um, or even like a track pad.
There's other options.
No, you get, you get the one.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Wait, just wait.
We'll get there.
Alright, we can talk about it now.
They rendered her in bed.
I forgot!
If you don't feel attacked by this picture, then fuck you.
The thing is, I don't...
I don't think that I don't think that many people who are as old as Anna is supposed to be could sit cross-legged in their bed, sat up watching, watching their laptop with like a bowl of snacks, a bag of snacks, and then to some snacks is on the bed.
Yeah, there's like two individual dishes.
There's like a burrito that's just on the apple core.
Okay, it's an apple core that's on our bed sheets.
Yeah.
A cup of coffee that's just like how, what is, what's the firmness on this, on this mattress, man?
Yeah.
Like also very odd size cup of coffee.
It's like slightly larger than maybe Adopio.
But yeah, like just, I mean, She's chillin'.
So they didn't render anything else in the room.
It's just a grey void behind her bed.
The bed is very clearly rendered.
I wonder if they had this image of a bed they sold at one point.
Furniture at work.
Or they just have access to all the best furniture gifts.
Furniture JPEGs.
I'm trying to like go hang out with Anna in her bed and watch some TV.
I'm like, pass the cookies, babe.
Like, what's up?
No, this is... She's just chillin' on the morning.
She's watching her shows, watching her stories.
Because she's not typing.
She's not working.
This is clearly leisure time.
Yeah, it's so funny.
Oh no, if you work less, actually that's worse on your body.
It's actually worse for your health, mind, body, spirit.
If you work in a place you actually like, that you've cultivated to your own tastes, and work fewer hours because you can actually get the work done.
Yeah.
If you don't have an eight hour day looming over you, you can just do what you need to do and then do other shit.
It's so ridiculous.
So here's the only good thing here.
Sarah Gibson, Director of Proactive Healthcare, recommends following the 20-20-20 rule.
Yadda yadda yadda.
Look away from your screen every 20 minutes for 20 seconds?
That long?
And focus on something 20 feet away.
I guess if the doctor says to do it.
I mean, first of all, we are definitely going to start applying that, uh, applying that to recordings.
So, uh, just a heads up.
Also, I need a bigger room.
I don't think that my room's 20 by 20 even.
So I think we need a bigger room, um, to get something 20 feet away from me.
Hmm.
All right.
Okay.
Have you thought about taking 20 second breaks?
Feels long.
I don't know.
Um.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I missed this part.
She's also fallen victim to weight gain, a weak immune system thanks to insufficient fresh air, anxiety, and depression.
They just gave her anxiety.
I wish I could go back into my open air office.
What'd you say?
I wish I could go back into my open air office.
Yeah, totally.
Did you know that Big Pharma, they don't want you to go back into the office because it would render all their products obsolete?
That's what it is.
Yeah, that's what it is.
They're trying to keep you sick.
The cure, there's no money in the cure going back to the office.
They just don't account for any aspects of what going to the office means.
Like, they never think, like, where are you getting... All these things can be reduced if you have, like, You know, less anxiety because you're getting paid at your job and you don't have to go into your job because you're actually getting your work done at home and you have more time to create your own schedule and stuff like that.
All those things you're talking about, they all go down.
If you have time, if you're not going into the office, you're more likely to be able to go to the gym.
Most people can't go to the gym because they're commuting home from the office the whole time and they don't have time to go to the gym.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you're not, like, maybe your office invested in standing desks.
I have seen a lot more of them.
But otherwise, like, you're not getting fresh air at work.
You're not getting, like, enriching activity.
You're getting the opposite of that.
You're getting work.
You're getting work indoors, probably in a place that you don't like to be, in a physical situation that's annoying at best.
like the whole bad on your body you know at worst I don't know yeah they just want you to buy a nice chair for home I guess I guess they're like not anti work I've anti work from home but Daily Mail definitely wants to like punish workers who work from homes So they saw this and they're like, yeah, sure.
We'll sell your stupid chairs on the website as long as we get to threaten people who work from home.
That sounds good.
I only have a couple responses because most people were like, oh, this is a real stupid article, even on the Daily Mail comment section.
But Dolomite from United Kingdom said, I'm listening, Dolomite.
Yeah, this might be...
Hmm, sounds cool so far.
Okay, employers, here's a way to save money.
A lot of the people on here who are refusing to go into work...
Like, what?
Nobody who can refuse to go.
Like if your boss says you have to come in, you have to come in.
You have to come in.
Yeah.
Like, I don't, I don't know.
They're, they're, they're like media brained, like the media has put these fucking little parasites into their brain.
That's like workers refusing to come into work.
And it's just like, you mean they negotiated to stay home, you know, or, Maybe they were already working from home from COVID and they took a vote on staying home and the boss agreed to it.
Like there's, it's just funny to be mad at them because they're, they're working.
Like it's not even, Oh, you're nobody wants to work anymore.
You can't be mad about that because they are working.
So you, so now you're mad because they're refusing to go into work.
Okay.
Even just the idea of just like workers are too powerful now.
They just do whatever they want.
These workers are just out of hand.
That's not happening.
Right.
It's not happening, but like, if you're a retiree, you're seeing all these people demanding better than you had, and you're like, why should they get better than what I had?
Okay.
Saying they can work better from home, parentheses, assuming that they can fit any work in with all of their, quote, quality time.
Take them at their word.
Get rid of them and employ people in other parts of the world.
I don't understand this.
I see this a lot.
So long as they are OK at reading and speaking English as the quote work from home brigade say you can work anywhere in the world so long as you have a decent Internet connection.
So that's I don't understand this.
I see this a lot.
Here's the other response.
If you can work from home, then don't be surprised when your role is outsourced.
Quote, home can be located anywhere.
It's like, yeah, a lot of companies did that.
A lot of companies did that after COVID because, you know, we developed the technology further to help to aid in doing that.
And so they did it.
Like, I don't, I don't know what you think that proves.
Do you think if the worker was like, okay, nevermind, I'll come into work.
Do you think that would dissuade somebody who knows they could make more money by like ship?
There's, there's no meeting in the middle with the hypothetical capitalists that these people want.
Because you're never gonna convince them, like, oh, well, you're a better person if you hire an American when it would be cheaper if you have the technology to hire overseas.
Like, the fact that those people haven't already been outsourced is probably a testament to, like, their skills or a relationship they've developed with the company that's, you know, more than just, like, good feelings.
Do Americans even realize that Companies outsource jobs to different states where it's cheaper to pay people Like that that's yeah, that's the level that we're at you know Do they even do they understand like that?
Yeah?
No, they're saying is how they're like they're happy that you get a call center in Texas instead of India now Yeah, yeah, they like that, but yeah, it's like no the work from home brigade is not a Responsible for outsourcing.
I don't know.
Very, very deranged take that I love to see.
It's just, you know, like finding excuses to blame anybody except, you know, the system that you're ideologically supportive of.
Yeah.
And you're so convinced that you're being affected by this.
Yeah, what's the principle of the thing, Tony?
Maybe it doesn't affect you, doesn't touch you at all or resonate with you, but it does for some of us.
For some of us, it's real.
I've been thinking we should get an office.
Fuck.
I think if we just got an office, it might help with my weight gain and my anxiety and depression.
If we could just get an office.
Okay, yeah, so that'll come out of your mental health section of your part of the brain.
Exactly, yeah.
Okay, cool.
As long as you're providing chairs, then we're good.
If only I knew of a website where I could buy them.
Find a good chair where I won't end up looking like that lady.
That's my worst fear is looking like that lady.
I don't ever want to look like that lady.
No, especially not in 2100.
When AI girlfriends will be real and also choosy, they'll have the power by then.
And so I need to look my best in the year 2100.
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