This week we follow up with Tony's nemesis Kurt Schlichter, who is doing "sarcastic" calls for fascism on twitter Also, a Seattle couple will not be charged for hitting and killing a homeless person with their car after driving into an encampment with the supposed purpose of retrieving a stolen bluetooth speaker Finally, Facebook takes Ariana Grande's blasphemy head-on Music: Bloodslide - Trap Door Support the show for $5/month at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult and get instant access to weekly bonus episodes of MDC as well as Tony's new "what if copaganda was gay" podcast: Last Responders
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As always, just have a pretty horrific story smack dab in the middle of this episode.
It's like one of those shit sandwiches you hear about.
Absolute shit sandwich, yeah.
So we're trying to, you know, buttress it with nice buns, good wholesome buns on either end of it.
And, you know, helping us do that is Greg Ryan of the Mechanical Freak Podcast, a podcast about a dystopian city on the bleeding edge of neoliberalism, that city being Seattle.
How you doing, Greg?
That's right.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Alex, Tony, Sari, you know, the other members of Mechanical Freak Podcast have, like, lives and concerns and people they're responsible to, so they really wanted to also be here on this beautiful Sunday, but I'm the only one who's got, like, nothing going on, so I am super stoked.
I love Mini Death Cult, and I'm glad to be here.
Glad to help you chomp down this shit sandwich.
Yeah.
Of course, yeah.
Thank you for being here.
I was a guest on Mechanical Freak a few months back.
We were talking about the Seattle PD Union President, I guess?
Is that the title?
We were speculating whether or not he was going to resign in shame.
Do we have a follow-up?
Oh, this is a gotcha.
You're doing a gotcha right now.
Do we have a follow-up on that?
Uh, he hasn't yet, but to be fair, goddammit, he hasn't yet, but... Vindicated.
Just for anybody who didn't hear that episode, I think I was possibly the only, you know, knowing the least about Seattle, having only lived here for two years, Barely learning about this bloviating, bloodthirsty police chief.
What was even the supposed scandal?
I don't even recall what exactly he said that prompted calls for his ouster.
Uh, yeah.
To be real, I don't either.
Hard to remember at this point.
There was some shit where he retweeted, like, some Andy Ngo shit or something.
Yeah, he was celebrating, like, vigilante violence.
Something like that.
And I was of the mind that why would he bother resigning?
I mean, A, he's a cop.
B, he's, like, the worst kind of cop, which is president of the police union.
Like, you have to be the worst cop to be in that position.
I said, no, he's... The guy who...
You know, whose duty it is to, you know, prevent other cops from being prosecuted and to leverage their power politically.
Yeah, the guy whose job it is to, like, never give an inch to management in general when you're the president of a police union.
That's, like, president of a union, rather.
That's your job.
And, of course, manage, quote, management being the public in this regard.
Yeah, you're the worst kind of Yeah, I said if he's learned anything from the Trump era, if he's going to be at all successful in this era, then yeah, you just don't ever admit you were wrong or resign or anything.
Hey, kudos to him for at least being that intelligent.
Maybe that's why he's not an official cop anymore.
I bet if you were to really dig into that, he's probably doubled down since then even.
Oh, totally.
He has a podcast.
He's also a podcaster.
He has a podcast?
Shut up!
I guarantee you he's doubled down.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we'll have more Seattle-based topics here in a minute, but something else close to home.
Thank you to James Fitzgibbon and the Minion Death Commandos Facebook group for Bringing this to my attention, we have a follow-up on Kurt Schlichter.
Kurt Schlichter, famous for being the armed car wash guy.
I think that might be a soldier thing.
I think he probably worked at a base in Afghanistan or some other country.
Completely fucking up and a little tongue-in-cheek reference to his own position as the spear tip of imperialism is, oh, I was an armed car wash manager.
Exactly, yeah, that makes sense.
He had to, like, dust off some humvees and he's like, that's his thing now.
He worked the motor pool.
Yeah, there you go, yeah.
That makes sense, yeah.
Yeah, so of course, Kurt Schlichter took offense to Tony's calls to protest Marjorie Taylor Greene and, what's his name, Matt Gaetz's speaking appearance in Tony's hometown of Riverside, one of Tony's hometowns I should say, of Riverside, California, and quote tweeted Tony and I don't know, called you a communist or something?
Yeah, just like said, you know, these communists are trying to do, these communists are doing fascism, you know?
They're trying to, oh, you're going to edit, you're going to say we can't speak?
Who's the fascist here?
Right, so a person... Yeah, what's bad, because the bad thing about fascists was like, you know, they didn't like public speaking engagements.
Yeah, the bad thing about fascism was the counter protests.
So, he had a very interesting tweet thread that I thought would, I don't know, we should talk about it, we should bring it to the attention of his sworn enemy, Tony Boswell, here.
Kurt Schlichter tweeted out on August 7th, for too long, red state conservatives have offered to live and let live with blue state liberals.
Not even the full sentence, not even the full tweet, but immediately hilarious.
Right off the bat.
Don't you guys have some rule you like to quote or some general rule of thumb for this exact relationship online of red staters to blue staters?
Yeah, this whole tweet thread is Minion's Law, as you'll see.
He does Minion's Law to himself.
It's not even like a conversation that dives into Minion's Law.
It's just him trying to justify Minion's Law, which is, of course, a call for a second Civil War.
But he does this specific thing right here, which is, I don't want the Civil War, but we just wanted to be left alone.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, he gave us no choice.
This is like all of them envisioning themselves as John Rambo in the first Rambo instead of being John Rambo in like the seventh Rambo where you're just looking for like Vietnamese people to kill or whatever, right?
Envisioning yourself as just an isolated hermit.
Hey, I unplugged from the world, you know, you drew first blood by trying to teach my kids about the Tulsa race riots or whatever.
Yeah.
You forced my hand here.
So here he goes.
For too long, red state conservatives have offered to live and let live with blue state liberals.
But the blues are evangelical Marxists who cannot allow us to provide a counterexample of freedom.
I love also the use of evangelical Marxists here to describe how the blue side is not letting the red side live their lives in peace or whatever.
You're literally taking a modifier, which in this case is evangelical, to describe the behavior of the blues.
What's the origin of that word?
I wonder if anyone knows where that word came from, or what it's predominantly being used to do in this country.
I mean, it probably started as a blue state, though.
It probably started blue when they were having the slaves.
So, think about that.
Yeah, you can be a communist, just don't force it down my throat.
Don't force my children to see it, okay?
Yeah, when I think of people who are forcing things down my throat, when I think of people who are altering, you know, the fabric of the nation or the legal system we operate under, I do think of evangelicals, by which I mean Marxists, of course.
I do think of people who identify as evangelicals.
Yeah, then your next immediate thought is communist.
Uh, so, next tweet.
So, no more.
We must, by any means necessary, force them to be like us.
No quarter, no compromise.
Wow.
I love that.
Assimilate or die.
I guess what he's saying is like, you know, to be evangelical is to be like, uh, inviting and proselytizing, uh, is to be trying to like, Uh, persuade people on a cultural level, showing them, you know, the love and the light of a better way and so bringing them alongside.
And he's saying, fuck that!
We need to force, uh, conservatism on America at gunpoint.
It's very interesting because this is, speaking of like imperialism and overseas ventures, this is like imperialism coming home.
It's just, well, we couldn't, quote, liberate Iraq or Afghanistan.
We couldn't do democracy to them like we spent, you know, 12 years, 15 years, 20 years trying to do.
And now we're all back home with nowhere to put all this rage and hatred.
We've got nowhere to put this culture war.
So instead we're going to do imperialism but on our own country.
We're going to do imperialism for a crusade.
We're going to force everyone else in the country to be like me, Kurt Schlichter, a bloviating retiree with an insatiable bloodlust.
Listen Kurt, you're going to have to pry my Cali Chill vibes from my cold dead fingers.
All right, I'm not changing for you, bro.
Once they win the war, there's going to be a scene of them demolishing that mural in Long Beach of Ludog.
Yeah.
They're going to deface Ludog.
They're going to take him down.
I couldn't remember the scene.
They're like, don't forget our history.
We got to protect our history.
We got to protect Ludog.
Yeah, it's gonna be Tucker Carlson holding a chunk with part of the sublime sun on it or something.
Yeah.
Okay, he goes on.
Ban CRT, Marxism, and anti-American misinformation.
Nationalize big tech and academia.
How do you nationalize academia?
I mean, don't we already have, like, public schools?
Like, I guess those are state public schools.
Nationalize Harvard and Yale.
What is nationalizing, like, the big tech and academia?
Isn't that, like, a push towards not what he's talking about?
No, he's pushing it towards, like, a national conservatism.
So he wants to nationalize them, I guess economically, so that he can manipulate them culturally.
Yeah, he doesn't want to, like, necessarily control how Pepsi, like, treats their employees.
He just doesn't want them putting out the rainbow bottle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he would probably, if he were to nationalize Pepsi, that would be even worse for employees.
He would definitely, like, get rid of, if this side of the country were to nationalize any industry, yeah, they would completely, you know, everybody would be a private contractor, despite the company being nationalized.
I mean, besides that, Coca-Cola is America's soda, so bye Pepsi.
Like, you know, we're used to thinking of nationalizing industry as, like, a socialist policy or something, but, you know, it depends on for whose interests you're doing it, really.
This is, like, heron vote shit.
He's talking about fascism here.
He's talking about, you know, a powerful nationalist state that enforces white conservative rule.
I doubt it would even benefit white workers.
This definitely wouldn't even be good for white workers, which is like the myth of the fascist, right?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
It's funny because he's talking about doing what they say we want to do.
Yeah.
But only because we said we wanted to do it.
Only because we were already doing it.
And so now he has to do it.
Now he has to.
You know, he has to do it, yeah.
I like nationalize big tech and academia and mandate conservatism as their operational ideology.
Like, I love, like, oh, we're going to have, yeah, we're going to make Facebook be conservative, like, we're going to make Big tech, be conservative.
Like, all the guy apps are gonna have to wear blue jeans, and all the lady apps are gonna have to wear sundresses and shit.
Just nonsense.
Penalize... Go ahead.
It's incoherent, of course, because, I mean, this guy's a fascist, but like, yeah, none of that... There's no way to mandate
conservative ideology like you know for all these like whatever the employees at these companies or whatever but you know but it doesn't have to like make literal sense like you know this is the this is the Trump pitch you know the trying to reach out to downwardly or you know people who perceive themselves as downwardly mobile small business people and and say like look we need to take Well, I suppose.
I mean, just to go back to your initial point about being downwardly mobile.
homeowner or something, but you know, it's, it doesn't have to actually make like literal sense for it to be like broadly successful as a way to like take power in America and really hurt people, you know?
Well, I suppose, I mean, and I, just to go back to your, uh, your initial point about being downwardly mobile.
Yeah.
Like downwardly mobile has like several degrees, like, yeah, You could be a successful, wealthy, small business owner, but that doesn't stop you from, you know, getting pushed out of your arena by Amazon or whatever.
I mean, all of these companies, like, I just saw that ad for, uh, and there's an app for, uh, HR managers now.
Instead of, uh, instead of hiring an HR manager, uh, you use an app that only costs a hundred dollars a month or whatever to do it.
It's Fiverr for the cops of your employees.
The pitch was like, don't spend $80,000, spend $99 a year.
That was bananas.
I couldn't believe that.
I mean the same thing with, what is it, BetterHelp?
Like, you're just gigifying therapy now as well?
All those quote therapists are just probably getting paid, like yeah, $15 an hour, maybe $20 an hour?
Yep.
Austerity and falling wages, gigification is all coming for the professional class now too, you know, slowly.
They're realizing a lot of these jobs are bullshit, like HR managers, they do a couple of things, they prepare a couple of documents, they're the person who's gonna talk to someone when they have a problem with the company and make it go away, and yeah, they're getting fucked too.
And that's a particular insidious example too because you gigafied therapy now but you also made it to where that's the only access some people are going to have.
That's going to be a lot of people's only option and it sucks that it's coming from people who are being disserviced themselves, you know?
But what we're not thinking about with this conservative thing, it is like the long money, right?
Think about how much money you're gonna save if you can't smoke weed anymore, if women can't get haircuts and only have long denim skirts.
We're gonna save so much money and it's gonna be better for the economy.
Yeah, but it's just, it's that old saying that shit flows downhill, right?
Yeah.
And everybody is downhill from somebody.
And as capitalism continues rampaging and ravaging across the globe, more and more people are becoming downstream of the increasingly smaller number of people at the top, right?
And so, yeah, people like the professional managerial class are gonna feel this pinch as well.
And I just, it's...
I don't know that this it's it's you know this pitch of oh we need to take the culture back or whatever or liberals are are you know enforcing their culture on us and it's like no like you're the quote liberal mainstream culture you know infected by you know hip-hop or infected by lgbtq or whatever like that stuff is popular in the red states Like, people listen to rap in the red states.
People watch, you know, the mainstream television shows in the red states.
That's why they're mainstream.
I don't know how, like, you couldn't enforce this, and I don't know how, like, how successful of a pitch that is.
I really think that, like, the people who have the power right now rely on the liberal cultural hegemony.
Because that placates a lot of the people who are suffering from this, you know, this disenfranchisement that we're talking about.
It's like all the, quote, Democrats, it's like what they have to lean on is that, well, at least, you know, I'm represented on the Disney Channel or whatever, right?
So it's...
It's really, I don't think, something that's going to go away unless things get really, really, really, really bad.
And, you know, what reason would we have to think that things are going to get worse, right?
Well, the thing about shit is, shit rock rolls downhill and, you know, it rolls far enough down, time enough goes by, it becomes fertilizer, baby.
And that's how you can make bombs.
Oh, I mean, plant food.
One of those two things.
They tried to bury Disney Plus.
They didn't know it was a seat.
Um, penalize barren, non-familial lifestyles through taxes and disqualification from political participation.
I mean, you already get tax breaks for having kids.
Yeah.
There's already, uh, the child tax credit.
And then there was also a further incentive to actually give people with children money, uh, to which the right wing, uh, flipped the fuck out.
So.
Yeah.
Uh, and also disqualification from political participation.
Okay.
Establish property.
Yeah, go ahead.
That's a whole new like turn on the Just this sort of American concept of democracy, about who has skin in the game, who has the right to democratic input, and traditionally it's been land ownership in America, and capital, and I don't know.
That could be a new interesting turn, like you have kids, you get to vote.
I don't know, that might be a wash.
Somehow I don't think that's going to include, like, taking power away from childless capital, though.
Or that the fact that you have a kid is going to outweigh the fact that you have millions of dollars.
Well, it seems it's still in line with, you know, it's just, oh, instead of owning land, like, yeah, you own capital, which is like human capital, like your wife and your kids or whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, yeah.
You have these assets, you know.
And then right, the next sentence is, established property and military service qualifications for voting.
Oh, there you go.
Wow, the rich guy who served overseas thinks we should use those as qualifications for participating in democracy.
Who has kids.
Yeah.
Increase... Yeah, I mean, obviously, like, on the face of it, like, the childless, the barren lifestyle, childless whatever, is like, it's obviously, you know, it's a homophobic thing on, like, at first blush, but I do think, like, they're trying to come after, you know, the perceived sort of, like, millennial generation's aversion to rearing children or something.
Well, it's the same thing that J.D.
Vance was just on about.
Yeah.
Like, he was trying to fundraise on the idea that childless cat ladies were coming for your guns.
Yeah, and it's like, guess what?
No one can afford to have a kid.
Everyone's fucking poor.
Having a child is insanely expensive in this country.
Yeah, the birth rate's gonna fall, sorry.
Child tax credit, whatever.
Economically, it's always a bad move to have a kid.
Yeah, yeah.
More than ever.
Well, don't worry, because I'm sure the liberal response to something like this is going to be, no, we actually should end the human population, because humans are evil.
Because overpopulation is the reason for inequality and global warming.
So yeah, we should actually have less people on this planet.
How that happens, we're just going to twiddle our thumbs over here while it does.
Let the free market sort it out.
Yeah.
Increase America's carbon footprint.
Ban that.
He's just saying bad stuff.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
Come on.
This is like a villain.
This is just a troll.
Mandatory hot blades for every man, woman, and child.
Does this guy even roll coal?
Is he even down?
Ban masks.
Dismantle unions.
Use the law to ensure blue submission.
Imprison dissenters.
Force them to act against their deepest beliefs to keep their jobs.
End all social programs and deport all illegals.
Outlaw crime again.
Seems kind of harsh, but hey, isn't this the flip side of what they want to do to us?
So I'm unclear why they would object that it's wrong.
And then the last tweet is, uh, they started it.
So yeah, it is exactly just, I didn't want to do genocide to you guys, but you made me.
You made me, Obama made me be racist.
You guys, the libs made me a genocidal fascist.
Yeah, it's a classic tactic, right?
Like, you accuse, the right accuses the left of, like, you know, planning, you know, assassinations and kidnappings and murder and torture as a justification to do it themselves.
Now, this is just one asshole on the internet who's really just trolling by the sound of it.
You know, he's picking up that current from somewhere.
It's a veneer of trolling.
This isn't actually trolling.
This is just him saying what he wants to do and then couching it in some like, oh, you're a hypocrite.
If you don't like it when I do every single thing I obviously really want to do, then hey, you're a hypocrite because that's what you're doing to me.
Like, if you look at the responses Like, the first tweet, 3,000 faves.
The second tweet where it says, no quarter, force them to be like us, 1,000 faves.
Banning Marxism, CRT, mandate conservatism in big tech, ban leftist media, that's got 1,000 likes.
And then when the likes start dipping is when he gets into the, actually, this is what they're doing to us.
And I was just kidding.
And it's like, oh, OK.
I thought you were actually doing the thing that we've been saying we wanted to do forever.
No, you can hear it.
He's hard for this shit.
He's horny for all of this.
I really love the mic drop of a four-year-old bickering child.
They started it, is the mic drop end of the tweet.
And I still, I gotta be honest, I can't believe they haven't outlawed crime yet.
I'm really surprised that crime is still not outlawed.
That's pretty wild.
And he missed a real opportunity, because what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to say, they started it, we're going to finish it.
Hell yeah!
That way you can sound like a victim and be tough at the same time.
I like that one.
That's a good way to go.
And yeah, I like this.
The number one liberal response was from Blonde in Brooklyn, who has like the Statue of Liberty emoticons, possibly a Warren supporter.
She responds, offered to live.
So, in reference to the red states have been offering to live side-by-side peacefully with blue states or whatever, she says, offered to live?
We pay your bills.
And then she does a screenshot from the Wall Street Journal, the liberals' favorite publication, Biden County's account for 70% of U.S.
GDP.
And so this is the correct response.
The correct response is, as always, to call people who live in red states freeloaders and the real welfare queens.
That's definitely what you should be doing to people in the same class as you.
I think it's genius.
I think the best thing to do is to just say like, oh yeah, you think that we're fucked up?
Actually, the whole system is broken and we're proud of it and you're welcome.
Yeah, so fun times with Kurt Schlichter here.
I hope to see more of his work in the future.
Let's move on to a local story up here in Seattle.
This is a tweet I saw courtesy of DivestSPD on Twitter, so thank you.
Friends of Mechanical Freak, they've been on the show.
Thank you to them for highlighting this story from Kiro News, which is the ABC7 affiliate in Seattle, I believe.
Or is it ABC?
We say Cairo.
Cairo.
Okay.
Couple attacked, man killed while retrieving stolen items from Seattle homeless encampment.
And the way that's phrased makes it sound like the man who was retrieving stolen items.
The victim of theft at the hands of the unwashed criminal class of the homeless in Seattle must have died when he tried to get his stuff back.
Moving on, what's your next story?
Yeah, it's super maliciously written.
That headline is terrible.
That's fucked up.
People snip that, clip that, and just shared only that without any information.
Oh, I'm sure.
Well, because what really happened was the couple who went to retrieve their, quote, stolen items from a homeless encampment also killed a homeless guy.
A 20-year-old homeless guy.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, so the real story is a homeless man murdered by insane vigilante couple.
And incidentally in there somewhere, you know, they may have thought they were looking for some missing belongings of theirs.
Maybe.
If that really even happened.
Yeah, let me read this story here.
It's a pretty short one.
Seattle.
A man was killed in a chaotic altercation between an angry group of people from a South Lake Union homeless encampment and a Seattle couple who had gone to the encampment to locate items stolen from them in a recent burglary, according to King County prosecutors.
So even then... The couple was not angry.
Don't tell the TV news that the couple was angry.
Yeah, and also paint the couple as passive just in the structure of this sentence where it starts with the chaotic altercation between an angry group of people and a Seattle couple.
Never minding the fact that the Seattle couple were the people who drove into the homeless encampment.
Yeah, to someone's home.
A lot of people's homes.
Seattle police originally responded to a hit-and-run at 3 p.m.
July 27th at a large tent encampment at Dexter Avenue North and Mercer Street, according to court documents.
Police said a couple had driven to the encampment hoping to locate items stolen from a recent car prowl, with their two-year-old son secured in a car seat.
Let me just stop you right there, okay?
Like, what you're supposed to get out of that sentence is, oh my god, and in this whole thing, you know, he acted, yeah, somebody ended up dead, but the toddler's life was in danger too.
But we've brushed past the police said, That, uh, these people went to their- this fucking place to find some shit of theirs.
Uh, we're gonna see that this is not actually backed up anywhere else, so like, I'm not even convinced of the story that they were, like, even looking for some stolen shit.
That may have been why they were there, which is an insane thing we can get into, just rolling up on some fucking poor people being like, where's the shit that was stolen from me?
But even as we discuss that, let's not make the mistake of assuming any part of this is true.
Yeah, uh, this next sentence is, uh, the man who drove the car told police he located his shoes and a Bluetooth speaker and he took them back to his car.
So that is also an even less believable thing.
Like, in saying that you would go, you would say, okay, some shit got stolen from my car.
Uh, first of all, I don't give a shit.
Uh, your shoes and your Bluetooth speaker.
So we're talking like a sub $200 fucking theft here that maybe happened.
Absolutely fucking insane to just roll down to the nearest congregation of poors, locate the criminal class, and go show up and be like, hey, where's my shit?
Of course, we get nothing in this story about what actually went down, what that looked like.
We're meant to... And then we're told he found the stuff.
So it's like, ah, we're justified.
Sure enough, he was somehow, he was exactly right.
He found it.
They rolled up and the shoes and the Bluetooth speaker were actually on the top of a pile of stolen goods, like, erected like an altar at the center of the camp with, uh...
You know a sign that said fuck you rich people or they were like stuck on pikes outside the gate like as trophies from the neighborhood like and they were just there.
I like to think we don't know in that big pile in the center but and there was like some sort of assembly line where all the all the homeless denizens were like waiting in line to dump their swag you know to dump their booty.
Into the center while like a king homeless person looked on and scratched his chin and gazed and marveled at his own works.
Yeah, there's a whole shop arrangement going on where people are chiseling the serial numbers off of Bluetooth speakers and taking bleach to the Sharpie initials on the tongues of Nikes, you know?
So they can't be traced, man.
It's like the Foot Clan Warehouse.
It's like organized crime.
Honestly, and we're kind of brushing back this, and as a parent I need to speak up.
You can't bring your two-year-old to this situation.
No.
These people are psychos.
They're fucking nuts.
Penny just turned eight, right?
And I'm so excited because when she turns ten, I can take her to fights.
Until then, she has to stay at home.
You don't bring your two-year-old to that.
That's wild.
It's ironic because every one of these people would be blaming the death of a toddler at the hands of Border Patrol on that toddler's parents for trying to escape.
Yeah.
you know violence or poverty whatever they would be they they would and they have they look at a dead the corpse of a toddler on our border or washed up on the shore of Europe or whatever and say it was their parents fault this guy and his his partner apparently yeah brought their toddler to retrieve sneakers and a Bluetooth speaker Uh, stolen.
Hey, if that shit is so valuable to you, don't leave it in your fucking car.
Yeah.
If it's worth killing somebody over, don't leave it in your car.
That shit isn't even worth getting your window smashed open, dude.
Right, which is why the correct answer is don't keep valuable shit in your car and don't lock your car or roll up your windows like I roll.
But look, so the combination of like which brand of absolute fucking despicable psycho this guy is, like was he really hyped up to do some vigilante justice?
Maybe, and he's just insane and also thought it would be cool to bring his kid along to that.
I don't know.
The other half of it, the other sort of psycho, like, white homeowner motivation of the Seattle style is just the absolute, total entitlement and arrogance
That you as a, you know, a real human being with, like, stake in the community, a home you live in, and a car, are feeling wronged in some way by the homeless criminal class.
You have an absolute right to just walk up in their shit, and so much so that you couldn't even conceive of anything going wrong.
Like, because you don't, um...
View these people as human or having any rights like that they would feel could be infringed by you fucking with them and their shit like this doesn't even occur to you so you can roll into this thinking like I'm just gonna go down there and the criminal supplicants will bow before me they'll see like I'll roll in with my you know in my freshly washed car with my family and they will like they'll hand over the goods because their better has come to like show it up or
You know, we don't know what happened here.
Again, it wasn't on pikes outside.
What went down, we're not told.
Did he show up and start fucking rifling through people's tents and shit?
That's exactly what happened.
People do this in this town.
It happens.
People show up.
and start fucking with people for all, for no fucking reason, whether they say they're, sometimes maybe, yeah, they're looking for their shit, sometimes they're just like trying to find crimes happening or something, or take pictures of people to put on the fucking internet. - When you're a member of a marginalized community like this, you or take pictures of people to put on the fucking internet. - When you're You are also being victimized.
You are also being taken advantage of by predators, whether they're part of that marginalized community or whether they're part of like the suburban exurb of your area or by the police or whatever.
Who's to say that this person in their car with their partner and a toddler is not also homeless?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Homeless people have cars.
Homeless people live in their cars.
And to have somebody going through, like, maybe your stuff or maybe your neighbor's stuff or whatever, like, of course you're going to confront them.
Yeah.
Because that's a reality of living on the street is having your stuff taken from you.
And the fact that, like you said, this guy thought it would be totally cool for him to come rifle through other people's belongings, go into the place that they actually live, not just break into a car.
But actually roll up on the place, drive through the place they live, thinking he could do that without, you know, ramifications.
He's kind of right, because he killed somebody with his car, and right here it says, Prosecutors do not expect him to face charges.
Well, and the entire media apparatus is jumping to his defense, you know, and painting the story in this whole way that I think has had help from the cops as well.
Yeah, uh, going on with this story, um, police said the couple was, okay, yeah, so he locates, quote, his shoes and a Bluetooth speaker, takes them back to his car.
Bullshit.
I say it didn't happen.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Even if he showed up, there's other reasons people show up to homeless encampments to fuck with people, and it's very possible that the cops, like, got out of him, that maybe he, you know, had had some stuff stolen recently, but
That may not have even happened, but even if he showed up looking for stuff, even if that is true, he showed up looking for his items that were lost in an apparent car prowl, I don't believe for a second that he found them because that's an insane improbability.
Why was he there?
So this is the kind of thing the cops will give you to say when you commit violence, commit crimes that are against the people who the cops see as their job to oppress, and you are a wealthy white homeowner who the cops see as their duty to protect.
Then, they will help you out.
They will give you, if not solid legal advice, which I wouldn't take from a cop, they will give you solid PR advice.
I can very easily imagine the police getting out of him, like, oh yeah, I lost this shit, and just say, yeah, say you found it.
Just say you found this, you rolled up, and you found this stuff here.
Or he didn't ever say that and the cops, you know, just told fucking Cairo that.
Who the fuck knows?
The cops handed him a pair of shoes and a Bluetooth speaker and they're like, you found this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, totally.
But yeah, the guy clearly said he thought he was going to be able to just put his people around and then went into panic mode and fucking killed somebody and now he's getting away with it because two people you can run over, for sure, with no repercussion.
You can run over on house people and you can run over cyclists and you're going to be fine.
No one's going to follow up.
It's always their fault because they shouldn't have been in the first place.
Yeah, uh, police say, so he goes back to his car with this stuff.
Police said the couple was immediately attacked by several people in the camp.
Very interesting phrasing there as well.
He's already retrieved his stuff, right?
So, unless, like you said, it was, uh, it was under, you know, a placard posted to a sign that said the date and location it was stolen, uh, by this... Yeah, there's a card catalog.
Yeah, by this criminal community or whatever.
It seems like, yeah, he would have to be, like, rifling through people's shit, even if we believe his story that he found this stuff, right?
But it's not until he gets the stuff, goes back to his car, that then he was, quote, immediately attacked by seven.
They just, they saw a white home.
I mean, I don't, we don't know the race of this guy, but they saw somebody better than them and it drove them to a fucking rage, right?
Well, they were snapped out of their drugged stupor by, you know, the thought of losing those Nikes and that Bluetooth speaker.
The driver was seen on surveillance video being hit in the back with a five-foot wooden pole, while another man attacked the driver and smashed the windows of the car with a machete, according to prosecutors.
More people from the encampment joined the fight with rocks and sticks, and police said a woman from the camp began fighting with the female passenger of the car.
The driver was desperately trying to get away and sped through the crowd, hitting and killing a man who was part of the group surrounding the car.
It doesn't say this in this news article, but I watched the television piece on it.
And yeah, the guy that was killed was 20 years old from Alaska, I believe.
A nearby business owner.
Okay, so glad we could get an expert witness.
This guy rocks.
I also watched the Cairo drop and It's, yeah, okay, yeah, let's hear it.
A nearby business owner who asked only to be called Steve saw the aftermath in video taken by witnesses.
It was a car being attacked, he said.
So he's looking at video, he only saw like video that somebody else had taken with their phone.
Yeah.
That's exactly, they're quoting, so this guy was not a witness to the incident, he's just a business owner supposedly in the neighborhood.
Someone who must absolutely be heard from to sell this story.
Well I think he's got probably a better eye for, you know, even though it was somebody else's footage he looked at, he's got like an eye for character, for gumption.
Also, you're better at looking- Moral fortitude.
He's best to analyze the footage, I think.
And you're used to watching surveillance footage, because you're always watching surveillance footage around your business.
Around your business, in the bathroom.
I am so curious, because you said something fucked up happened here.
I don't care what group of people, from what background, there's a bunch of different types of people there, right?
And for everybody to come together over this thing, and to start even attacking the woman, and if they're even aware of it, because they're probably even aware of the child, something fucked up happened.
To start fucking bashing the car?
Yeah, they didn't just rifle through tents.
They did something fucked up here.
They did something awful because that just wouldn't happen.
No.
It wouldn't happen this way.
There's just no fucking way.
Well, that's an interesting perspective that you're bringing to this, Tony, where you're thinking of The residents of this camp like they're human beings, like you or I. That didn't occur to Cairo or to this small business owner, or to the cops, and so they see it as pretty easy to sell that it's not going to anybody who watches this.
But it's going to be very easy to believe that a bunch of zombies rose up out of their opium stupor and started attacking.
Several of them are yelling brains.
They kept on saying brains.
I don't know what that was about.
It was like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
He found the Bluetooth speaker on a pedestal.
And as soon as he removed it, the weight was displaced.
And all the mummies rose up and started attacking.
Yeah, exactly.
It was disgusting.
Seattle police arrested two men who lived in the encampment for attacking the couple with a wooden pole and machete.
So again, like, stand your ground doesn't apply to the unhoused people.
If somebody's coming up and rifling through your shit, or maybe even stealing your shit, we don't have a statement from- Doing a home invasion.
Yeah, we don't have a statement from any of these people as to their side of the story.
All we've heard from is the aggressor, the murderer in this situation, and the police.
And it's like, if somebody came into where you live, started grabbing your shit and taking them away, and you pulled out just a knife to defend yourself, these conservatives would call you an idiot for not shooting them with a 12-gauge shotgun.
Yeah.
You don't have a fucking shockwave?
Instead of using a machete.
It's just another case of everything being illegal in America, but that being enforced differently based on class and race.
Just add this to the long list of shit you can do in the privacy of your home, like use heroin, and generally not be bothered.
Or pass out drunk on your floor.
But if you don't have a home, if you're poor, then you get the book thrown at you.
And I guess the same goes for home invasions.
If your home is invaded and that home is socially acceptable because you're able to pay for it, then yeah, you can blow someone away and the cops will come to your aid.
You know, give you coaching on how to get through it in the media and legally, and in this case it's the opposite.
These people invaded these people's homes.
I mean, jeez, you can get... people will call the cops on you for, like, getting into an apartment building and door-knocking, you know, for, like, political campaigns or something.
And you can get rousted from doing that.
These people came in and then came into what is essentially an apartment building, a multi-family dwelling here, and murdered someone.
Murdered someone.
And this whole story is about how some other people need to be put in jail.
Yeah, about how scared they must have been while they were murdering.
Imagine somebody running somebody over in your backyard.
In their backyard.
Like, you drive your car into their backyard and run someone over.
Like, you're fucked.
But this is, yeah, they're not real people here, so it doesn't count.
So fucked.
So Steve, I think, quote, Steve continues, the small business owner in the area, quote, since Denny Park encampment closed down, these are the worst of these types of people, Steve said.
It's almost the center of crime here.
So again, these people, you know, these are why they're business owners.
These are why they're business owners is because they know how to word things just the right way.
Like, since Denny Park Encampment closed down, oh yeah, they had to, they put a sign up, said closed for business, all the, all the, uh,
Unhoused people who were living there they closed up shop and they and they moved right here instead of uh the reality which was yeah cops uh have been trying to uh brutalize people out of that park on and off for you know several years since the pandemic started right and more recently they did a they did a complete sweep of the park yeah trashing people's residences throwing their possessions away etc but uh yeah that's that's
Phrased here as that encampment closed down and what the homeless people didn't get houses all of a sudden because they closed down the encampment.
They went somewhere else.
That's fucking nuts.
I can't imagine why.
Why did that happen?
Yeah, that phrasing is wild too, because like they're saying, oh census closed down, these are the worst of them.
So the people who, it closed down, and you know that means a lot of people went and got jobs and houses and they're living good lives now, but these ones didn't want that.
So they are the worst of it.
They're still out there, so they must be the worst ones.
And it's like so fucking, I mean, it is aware, but it doesn't acknowledge anything, any reality there.
Well, it's also like, ever since I got what I wanted all along and they got rid of the thing I really hated, now this is the thing I really hate because it's also still here.
You're winning, dude.
Yeah, no, exactly.
This is the fucking reality you want.
It's just... Well, we should say it's halfway to the reality that they want.
It's the reality they were able to freely express that they wanted, which is, we want the park closed down.
The reality that they actually want is revealed in the next sentence.
There's just a few businesses here, he said, and we don't have a loud enough voice to get rid of these people.
That's what they actually want.
They had to pretend like they just wanted, oh, I want the park back.
I would go to that park every single day if I didn't have to look at dirty people or whatever.
I just love the park.
And it's like, you got your park back, but hey, those people that you hate, they still exist.
And it's like, well, I guess now I'm able to reveal what I really want, which is to be, quote, rid of these people.
Yeah, you can use your imagination for what that means.
Island prison has been floated here.
In California, people are calling for them to be buried in the desert.
There's no option, there's no conservative solution for homelessness that isn't genocide.
Basically.
And the liberal solution is closing down the park, humanely closing down the park.
And then this is what I think this story gets to in general, not actually fixing the problem, just doing a half conservative Half radical right approach to the problem, which is, yeah, heavy policing, criminalizing homelessness, brutalizing them physically, etc.
And then when that doesn't work, well, I guess the only option is just full genocide.
Is just full, lock them up, kill them, put them in a ditch, whatever.
They started it.
But I mean, look, this is a part of a massive national media push that's going on right now to demonize the homeless, to hype this phony fucking crime wave that is supposedly happening, and to blame that on poor, houseless people.
It's only going to get worse.
Some 20 million people are going to be evicted over the next two years.
The Democrats are smart enough not to let it all happen at once.
Well, yeah, and the democratic solution is just, oh, we'll wait to do that, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Just like the liberal solution to the current homelessness crisis is like, we'll wait to imprison them all until there's a Republican in charge.
And then, hey, we tried by just not actually fixing the problem, and it's like, It is a huge problem.
Homeless people are not the problem.
The state of being homeless is an epidemic in this country.
And when you don't fix that problem, when you don't actually provide a material solution, which we know is Far less expensive than the punitive penal solution to this, and more effective.
When you don't actually provide that solution, yes, people like these suburban fascists are going to take matters into their own hands.
You leave a vacuum here for action, right?
Because you've refused to take the humane, practical, and actually viable solution And so people just see homelessness, they see poverty, they see this like dehumanization of these people and they grow numb to it.
They grow numb, they grow desensitized to it.
We are all like constantly being desensitized to the violence that this state does to its own people, to people overseas, etc.
And It's like a forced program of dehumanization to everybody.
Yeah.
A perfect example of how that's washed is the continued popularity of the Olympics.
That's something that we know.
That's something Los Angeles is facing right now.
Los Angeles is displacing thousands of people right now for the Olympics in six years.
But we're just so... You said we're so turned off to it.
We're also taught that you don't get there on accident.
You don't get their, you know, people make decisions and we're taught that and it's pushed down.
It is so normalized to, like you said, treat them like disease or something's wrong with people.
It's so, that's so normal and I don't know what we can do to combat that.
Well, millions of people over the next few years are going to make the decision to be pauperized, thrown out on the street, live in their cars and tents.
They're all going to say one day, you know what, I give up.
If I just worked hard, if I just had a good attitude, I could be living that good American life.
But I choose, because I'm a shiftless criminal, I choose to be homeless.
They're all going to say that over the next two years.
And even if you don't believe that the homeless are there by virtue of their moral failings or whatever, even if you don't buy into that...
They still serve as an example.
They still serve as a threat to every working person.
That if you don't toe the line, if you don't do what your boss tells you to do, if you don't work for whatever subsistence wages we're willing, they are willing to give you, that's going to be you.
It doesn't matter that they did everything right, or they tried to do everything right, or they were good people.
That doesn't matter.
What matters is did you do what capital told you to do, right?
Yeah.
I mean, this response right here from Vincenzo on Twitter is responding to Divest SPD and this article.
You know, Divest SPD, of course, did a good job of framing this story the way it should have been framed, which is, yeah, a fucking couple entered a homeless encampment and murdered somebody.
Vincenzo replied, those poor people having to live near that filth.
Clear case of self-defense.
Did you read the article you posted?
Did you read the fuckin' far-right fascistic propaganda?
It was all right there!
As this trend continues, I wonder when the tipping point will be.
Surely we're nearing it already.
People are getting ready to cleanse their communities.
Jesus Christ.
This is a very classic Seattle idea.
I mean, I'm sure it's everywhere, but like...
One of the sort of, you know, for our listeners, for the listeners elsewhere, like, you know, one of the classic conceptions of liberal Seattle is like, is that, you know, everyone, all the, everybody in the city thinks it's like, they've, you know, they've done something really right by choosing to live out here.
No one's from here, you know, it's the beautiful city, there's so many trees, and it's close to nature, and like, it's this perfect paradise they've all chosen to come to, and...
I'm sure this is the case everywhere, but god, my god, like, the main complaint over the last ten years about poor people and homelessness in this town basically boils down to aesthetics.
It's constantly people just so fucking pissed off, homeowners just so pissed off that they have to see poverty, that they have to see homeless people in their parks, on their streets, in their beautiful Seattle, in the Emerald City, the jewel, you know?
They worked hard and chose to live here.
If you have money to live here, if you have money either to rent in the city or if you have money to own a home in Seattle, you're doing pretty good.
If you own your home in Seattle, your home's probably worth at least a million dollars, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
The fact that I mean Seattle is becoming less and less livable by the day I mean people who were surviving previously cannot do so anymore and the idea that those people who have stopped being able to survive are the problem
is just in it's it's disgusting uh and it's also yeah you moved here because you wanted to take advantage of the tech boom or the development or you know all the building that's going on here that's why people are being displaced that's why people can't afford to live in indoors anymore and then for that to be like somehow uh your problem is it's just astounding yeah and so Vincenzo here
Like, he's saying, those poor people have to live near that filth, which is like, yeah, it's everything we just said.
Like, oh my god, that's such a fucking crime.
Those poor people, meaning the murderers, have to live near that filth.
Like, that's enough, comma.
Clear case of self-defense.
Yeah, I was defending myself from the ugliness.
From living near that filth.
Yeah, from the aesthetic displeasure I was experiencing.
Yeah, I mean, that's it.
That justifies murder.
You know?
You had to see poverty.
You should kill it.
And then he's not wrong when he says, as this trend continues, I wonder when the tipping point will be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As long as this trend is allowed to continue and by allowed to continue, I mean like nothing being done about the further immiseration, the further like inequality or whatever.
And also, uh, the police and you know just the people in charge turning a blind eye to vigilante violence in general that's the trend that's the trend that's being allowed to continue i wonder where the tipping point will be or whatever and it's like it's nonsense because there is no tipping point it's already happening it's like the people
Maybe more and more people are going to get the courage to go get their Joneses by killing an unhoused person or whatever, but that's not really a tipping point.
That's just the status quo here.
They're just hoping for a legislation that's going to allow us to treat them like wolves.
You're allowed to do a few a year just to manage the population.
That's really what they want.
They want legit permission.
And they want to use it as a political issue, too.
Like I said, homelessness, poverty is about to explode in America, and it is going to be used that way.
We're seeing it now, like the phony crime wave stories that's being pushed on your white homeowner class in America.
Man, the aesthetic blight of homelessness.
When that explodes, it's going to be used by the right, and frankly by the Democrats, to push an agenda.
And it's not going to be good.
And it is going to explode.
Like we said, the Democrats are allowing this to happen.
The whole eviction ban, it's not like it was keeping people in homes totally.
People were being de facto evicted.
People were even being evicted in the courts in all kinds of shady ways.
It was happening in broad daylight.
But a lot of people, you see the number, like 20 million were behind on their rent and still in their housing.
How many, just with the crisis they created, by allowing the, you know, the Supreme Court stepped in and said, ooh, well, this is irregular, we can't just be, you know, passing eviction bans willy-nilly, to remind everybody that this is like, was a unique circumstance and will have to end.
And by allowing it to fester for a month, the White House, you know, the Democratic Congress, Uh, was able to make that point to the nation, that this is not gonna last, right?
That this is now, it seemed like something the federal government could just hand down like a lightning bolt from Zeus, but turns out it's actually more in the realm of the parliamentarian.
Some just stuff we can't really do and so they allowed it and how many in the few days where it was like oh the eviction ban's gone did how many people just went who were hanging on who were you know thousands of dollars in debt to their landlord were like well fuck it I better get out of here before this gets ugly how many people got eviction notices taped to their door who've been getting fucking threatening emails and texts all the last fucking year or whatever that they've been behind on their rent
How many of them got eviction notices on their door and were just like, fuck it, I gotta get out of here before this just gets really fucking ugly, this isn't gonna last?
And then they turned around, and the White House was like, oh, actually we can do something, but it's only gonna last the next two months, and it's only gonna protect 90% of those people.
So what, that's two million people who are gonna get evicted in the next two months?
Great, then the next two months it'll be two million more, and they're smart enough to know That they know that capital has to liquidate the poor in this country after 12, 13 years of economic depression and now this pandemic.
They're going to be liquidated out of those homes so they can be redeveloped, and you've got the more careful capital party in charge, so they're going to just stretch it out over a couple years.
Yeah, I mean, we just heard Nancy Pelosi say, oh, we can't actually cancel student debt because that wouldn't be fair to everybody who already paid their student debt off, or that wouldn't be fair to somebody who doesn't have kids.
That wouldn't be fair to somebody who did the right thing and didn't take out student loans, that sort of thing, which is the Republican argument to a T.
For not canceling, yeah, the debt bubble, just in student debt alone that's hanging over, you know, millions of people's heads in this country at large or whatever.
You saw her completely wave that away using right-wing talking points.
What's going to happen with the homelessness crisis?
What's going to happen with these, like you said, millions of people being kicked out of their homes?
Well, we'd love to do something, but it's not fair for the taxpayer to have, everybody who did it the right way, to have to cover somebody who is irresponsible, frankly.
Well, you know, the rules, you know?
There's the rules we have to follow.
We need to figure out a way as, like, tenants to, like, you can maybe file some sort of request for, I don't know, like a, like a land-air-missile system?
And we'll probably get that, you can probably get money for that before you can get money for your rent.
Last thing I wanted to say on this topic, I wanted to read a comment from, I had more, but you know, they're just, they're pretty bleak.
Edwin A. Ramirez, I think, sums it up nicely.
I think it's time to close that particular encampment and send a message to the homeless community that the citizens are not going to put up with their criminal behavior.
Well, I promised you that encampment will be closed.
I mean, I promise you it's going to get swept.
The crime of being homeless, we're not going to tolerate that anymore.
Dot, dot, dot, question mark.
What?
You know what I mean?
The solution is just to go be homeless somewhere else after two months, go be homeless somewhere else after that, etc.
etc.
until we can literally push you into the ocean or something, right?
This is scary too because this situation sets a precedent where Okay, I can go to an encampment now.
I could probably start something.
As long as I can prove that I'm a homeowner who maybe was wronged, I could kill somebody now.
I can start doing this now.
We have the example.
That's really scary, especially when you see people like Edwin who might just be bored enough to You know, they might just bring their Bluetooth speaker with them and say they found it there, you know?
Yeah.
Just looking to play the most dangerous game.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, well, moving on, let's try to get some lighter fare in here before we have to sign off.
I guess if the devil is lighter.
Well, in this case, she's darker, because we are talking about Ariana Grande here.
This was an incredibly viral Facebook post.
I think this was shared to the group by Ben Abbott, who did remark that this was one of the most insane... I don't know if ratio is the right word.
It's called a ratio on Twitter, but on Facebook, it's just a literal ratio of laugh reacts to like reacts.
This post has 35.9 thousand laugh reacts, and it's just a post by a woman named Beth Clanahan, the first syllable of that last name, very interesting, whose Facebook avatar frame says, you know, born-again Christian, right?
Beth has since locked her Facebook profile after this post was up, you know, for several days.
I don't know how it got this popular, but I can understand why, because I'll read it here.
Beth Clanahan posts, I have shopped at Ulta for a very long time, even before they located in Paducah.
However, after I received their August catalog, I won't be back!
As you can see from this photo, Ulta chose to promote the new cologne by Ariana Grande by posting it on the front cover.
As a Christian, the name of the cologne is offensive.
And looking at this photo, yeah, it's like a photoshoot of Ariana Grande laying in, like, you know, a bed of flowers, wearing, like, a lavender dress, and it says, the new fragrance, God is a woman, Ariana Grande.
Oh, damn, that's some sacrilege.
Yeah, that's a straight-up sinny-sin-sin right there.
Once again, as a Christian, the name of the cologne is offensive!
I mean, it would be if it were a cologne called God is a Woman.
Yeah, that would be offensive to me as a cologne consumer.
I have called Ulta this morning and voiced my complaint.
This cover and the name of the cologne is a slap in the face to every Christian who walks through their door and spends money.
My Granny Anderson always said, quote, every tub sits on its own bottom.
So the choice is yours.
What?
Huh?
What?
What does that mean?
It's very clear, it means contact corporate headquarters of Ulta and demand they kowtow to your beliefs.
So the choice is yours.
They certainly wouldn't want to offend other groups... I'm tired of people blatantly throwing this trash in the faces of Christians.
The phone number to Ulta Corporate is 630-410-4800.
We have to start standing up and speaking out!
It's about time the Christians got the cojones to stand up and speak out, finally.
After all this time of being silenced.
Yeah, first they tried to say God is in the TV, and now they're saying God is a woman?
This is absurd.
This is disgusting.
I get it.
Like, you know, I could see if you think God is a man, maybe you think this is an insult to God.
Is it really an insult to Christians?
I mean, butt out of it.
This is between Ariana Grande and God, whoever they may be.
Well, the thing about God is, like, I'm always on the side of God.
So if God's got beef, I got beef.
And therefore I got beef with Ariana Grande.
You were beat into God's crew.
Yeah, okay.
That's right, that's right.
Yeah, it's cool just to see... You got baptized, jumped.
It's cool just to see, like, I don't know, second wave feminism, like, coming to corporate mainstream, you know, and this being like a satanic panic.
Yeah, it rocks.
Yeah, because this is not... I mean, I don't know, growing up in the church and growing up Catholic, this is not that big of a deal.
This is not that wild of a thing.
I mean, most of some of the most devoted Christians I know would be like, Father's a linguistic thing, I don't think it matters, the whole point about God is not important, really.
Sure, if that's what you want to do.
Not a big deal.
Like, I did not realize this was that big of a deal to some people.
Well, I may know different types of Christians than you do, Tony.
I was raised in an evangelical church.
Yeah, I don't know many evangelicals.
The thing is, like, look, they all have a, you know, a persecution complex and a bug up their ass about, like, how they're living in this godless culture.
And so, you know, if you just hit—this is a perfect little, like, target for them because it's, like, gender issues.
We don't like those.
We don't like anything contravening traditional gender roles.
And, hey, they're trying to give a new pronoun to God.
I mean, what could be more perfect, you know?
My God doesn't have pronouns.
Which is it?
Did the Bible not have pronouns, or is God a he?
I mean, let's make up our fucking minds here, people.
My pronouns are I am.
Says God.
My pronouns are alpha and omega.
It's just funny to be like, okay, I'm a Christian, right?
I'm this like fundamentalist Christian who's like a psycho about everything.
Isn't one of the tenets of that faith that like, oh, the world is sinful.
Like the world is ungodly.
I am not of this world.
I am, I am of the, you know, do not like Partake in the sin of this world or the matters of this world.
Try to imagine that same person trying to change the name of a perfume.
Of an Ariana Grande perfume.
Isn't everything bad if you're an evangelical?
Why would you bother?
Isn't it cool that you're living amongst the evil pop singers and everything like that?
Doesn't it make you look better?
Why would you actually start a campaign to change man's world when you're getting ready for God's world?
Because now it's being shoved down the throat on the cover of Alta.
They're cramming it down your throat.
Evangelicals used to have that attitude, that sort of separatist outlook, but now they have, ever since the 80s, now they have They turn it into a persecution thing, you know?
And they just stay mad about it all the time.
It gives their lives meaning, to be honest.
The thing that gets evangelicals excited is getting angry at how the world is godless, and anything that pops up in the world they live in that is connected to the Bible.
That makes it seem like they have a real connection to this absurdly old gobbledygook story.
Like, this is why they're actually into Israel and stuff, because it's like, look!
It says that word in this Bible I have!
That's it.
And it's like, those two things, you can understand evangelicals.
They're hopped up to get excited about how The world is sinful and against God and how stuff relates to the Bible and makes it seem real to them.
What if like so this is God is a Woman is like not just a the cologne I guess it's a or sorry fragrance or perfume or whatever I guess it's also one of her songs and how funny would it be you know I don't know the lyrics to the song but like how funny would it be if like you know all these conservatives are mad about God is a woman but like if you looked at the lyrics it was all just about how like God's God's a woman she's constantly nagging me to go to church She won't yackety-yack-yack-yack, won't shut the fuck up.
Yeah, go make me dinner.
I think that would be funny if that's what the song would be.
Yeah, I like that.
Okay, yeah, and then Beth Clanahan comments on her own post.
Please ignore any of the laughing emojis on the page and on your own comments.
I had to put this post public for people to share.
Clearly those who laugh don't understand or know the God we serve.
Not meaning to judge, but their actions speak volumes.
And that comment has 22,000 laugh reactions.
That's a lot of volume.
That is a lot of volume.
That's some loud-ass laughter.
Marla Dreblo says, I shared your post.
I hope that's okay.
3.2 thousand laugh reacts.
Madison Square Garden just erupting in laughter, you know, is the volume of that.
Yeah, at like your purest convictions.
At like, you just said the thing you've like felt the strongest about in your entire life, and yeah, like a full stadium of people laughed at you.
This is the thing, they love this shit, they love talking about it, they love being born-again Christians, and they hate that everyone finds them ludicrous and annoying.
And they just can't Yeah, they just can't get over that.
You can join us at any time, honestly.
It's fun to laugh at this stuff, you know?
Well, they can't tune out of culture because American Protestantism is about doing business and doing capitalism and being a they can't tune out of culture because American Protestantism is about doing business And they see themselves...
So they see themselves as totally connected to the entire rest of society, and the most upstanding members of it, in every other way except culture.
And they just hate that they can't have it all.
Yeah, instead of seeing this as like a, you know, what's the word?
Like a, you know, a passing moment, you know, the world being a passing state of existence, ethereal or whatever, and not important and really just like a prelude to the afterlife where you'll spend eternity.
Like instead of seeing the world like that, like, yeah, these American Christians, they see themselves as like the rightful inheritors of the earth.
That's what, indeed, what they care about.
And yeah, so seeing themselves just get laughed at constantly in the media, I mean, despite, you know, the puritanical nature of this country's structures and all that, the culture, yeah, like we said, the culture being the release valve for that hyper-conservatism elsewhere really just grinds their gears.
Marla Dreblo, in fact, says, this makes me sick!
And that's got 3.6 thousand laugh reacts.
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Robin Hemphill clarifies, I laugh because this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
So, not mad, actually laughing.
Hell yeah, Robin.
And then that's got 6.9 thumbs up, 6.9 thousand thumbs up reacts, where I think the people kind of misunderstood what Robin was saying.
Uh, Robin was calling a perfume, uh, the dumbest thing that she's ever seen.
Uh, not the post itself.
So, uh, I think the people reacting to this post kind of missed the mark on that one.
Uh, because this is like a closed comment section.
It's just for the friends of evangelical born-again Christian Beth Clanahan.
I don't think... I guess, yeah.
I guess if you just logged onto Facebook today, the name of a perfume could be the dumbest thing you've ever seen in your life.
Sarah Renee Welch says, I see all these people laughing at these comments and while no one asked for your opinion, you can simply scroll instead of acting ignorant and taking the time to put a laughing face.
Either way, I'll pray for you.
And 10.8 thousand laugh reacts.
I love the fervor that people were on this one with.
That's awesome.
The fact that the comments are getting this many laugh reacts, just fucking rules.
It's so funny because it's like, I mean, not to do the nerd-ass hypocrisy argument, but what the fuck is the original poster doing if not offering her opinion that nobody asked for?
Instead of just scrolling on by or flipping on by the Ulta ad with Ariana Grande that she hated, right?
And it's like, she didn't just do a laugh react.
She didn't just do a laugh react, which is all you just hold a button down.
She did a 20-line post on Facebook and also called corporate headquarters.
Well, I mean, if the Laugh Reacts were done, like... Amazing.
...by the influence of God, then that's different.
Like, she did all this because God told her to.
Now, if we were doing Laugh Reacts because God told us to, then that'd be different.
Uh, well, God is a woman, uh, and my wife told me to Laugh React, uh, that person.
And hey, you know, happy, happy wife, happy, happy wife, happy afterlife.
You know?
Lisa Koneman Davis says, Need to get Ariana Grande's manager's number!
Yeah.
So I wonder, like, it's great just how smooth a transition it is from getting mad at your waitress to getting mad at your pop star.
Where's your manager at?
Pretty smooth.
This is also this acknowledgement that maybe Ariana Grande doesn't have anything to do with it.
Maybe it's not all Ariana Grande.
I gotta talk to your manager.
Listen, maybe you need to docker hours next week.
I don't know.
I don't know what you're gonna do.
Imagine being so confused as to think that Ariana Grande's manager is Ariana Grande's boss.
Exactly, yeah.
You got that backwards, my dude.
Ariana Grande's management people are the people who are there to shield Ariana Grande from you.
Yeah, exactly.
I also just remembered that Simpsons bit where I think Lisa's praying and Lisa's like, you could be a man, you know, dear God, you know, Heavenly Father, or Mother, I suppose, or whatever, and Marge rushes in and like pulls her praying hands apart and she's like, oh, she didn't mean that, Mr. Lord, I'm sorry.
Uh, and then, uh, final, final comment here, uh, Terry Eaton Neely says, I called yesterday and they called me back a few period minutes ago.
They told me I wasn't the first who was offended.
I said offended.
I'm more than offended taking our God's name in vain and using his name as if he's a woman and top that printed on a lady supposedly being sexual promoting perfume.
As if using his name will make a difference.
It may, but for all the wrong reasons.
We get blasphemed and censored on what we put on FB, Facebook, whatever it be.
But they don't get the same.
We all have freedom of speech according to the Constitution.
But do we really?
Because almost all my Christian posts I've made, I can scroll my page and they have shut pretty much all them down.
Dot dot dot.
She said again, I'm deaf.
Not the first dot dot.
I stood my biblical ground.
I stand for God.
Who else will?
Here's the number she called from 866-360-6595.
The more calls she said, the more they can do something about it.
No, I think they're having fun with this.
They were like, we need to hear these crazy people.
This is so fucking funny.
Have you guys gotten a call yet?
They are going off about Ariana Grande.
Do they think that the cover of an Ulta magazine is the same as Facebook?
Yeah, they're both run by the government.
Yeah, and you should be able to report both of them.
Hang on, so I'm not on Facebook a lot anymore.
Is getting shut down Facebook slang for just getting no engagement on your posts?
I think that's what's happening here, yeah.
No, being shut down is you sharing a quote from Chuck Norris that says Nancy Pelosi, like personally, capped the skulls of a thousand infants, you know, like a Capri Sun or whatever, and then that post not being in your feed anymore for some reason.
Yeah, I think getting shut down is when you post a quote from the Bible, and it says, like, he is risen, and the verse, and it says, see, no pronouns, and no one likes or laughs at it, and you're like, this got shut down.
I can see it, because it's my post, but they shadowbanned me.
I was shut down.
Yeah, they definitely think they've all been shadowbanned for sure.
Yeah, being shut down is when you share the same thing three times.
You know you shared it three times, but it only appears twice on your wall.
And it's just like Facebook trying to make you look less demented, you know, to your friends or whatever.
And you know it's true, because if you weren't being edited, then how come this post that I'm looking at about Ariana Grande being the devil, how come I'm seeing that, but people didn't see my post?
I'm clearly the one that's being shut down.
The irony is of course that like the most viral stuff on Facebook is 100% like conservative news, conservative media.
I mean, Ben Shapiro frequently has like the most shared post of any given day.
Same thing with, you know, TPUSA, all these people who can Just like pay to reach and just the demographic of Facebook in general predisposes itself to that.
The number one most viral thing is like a praying hands sparkly gif that says, please share.
Amen.
And it'll have 75 million shares.
That is 100% just vaguely Christian gifs or videos without sound that, yeah, just show, like, a cherubic toddler, like, nodding slowly to God or whatever.
That's what's gonna get shared.
That's the power of prayer, baby.
That's the power of prayer.
That's it for the show.
A little bit of a long one, but we needed to get some palate cleanser in there.
We'll see, you know, we'll see if Ariana Grande changes the name of her song and perfume because of Klansman here, Beth Klansman.
Thank you so much to Greg for joining us.
Greg, once again, from the Mechanical Freak Podcast.
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Yeah.
Cool.
Thanks again for joining us.
Thanks so much for having me.
This was super fun.
Tony, we gotta get you on the show soon.
Gotta work that out.
I'm not from Seattle, but I am a big hockey fan.
So I'm excited for the Kraken.
The Kraken, alright, alright.
Maybe when we do a Kraken episode, we'll get you on.
Sounds good.
Yeah, we'll get it Kraken, huh?
Sorry.
You're gonna hear that a lot now.
Definitely worth interrupting me for that one.
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I've seen some of those.
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