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Nov. 24, 2020 - Minion Death Cult

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This week we talk about the newest in an interminable line of Obama autobiographies, this one documenting the bad black people who voted for Trump and how "the long moral arc of history" is squared with his failures as president. Also, Harry Styles wears a dress and the right wing signals the end of humanity Support the show at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult for $3/month and get a bonus episode every week Music: Crumb - Bones

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	No one stands for us, Rush.
	Only you and Donald Trump.
	God forbid, what do we have left?
	I love my president.
	I am not a revolutionary, Rush, but I will die for my president.
	This man has given more to this country than anybody in the African region.
	None.
	He's a billionaire.
	That's exactly right.
	Alright, I'm Alexander Edward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	The world is ending.
	Rethuglicans are responsible.
	We're documenting it.
	So stupid.
	What's up, everybody?
	Thank you for tuning in, as always.
	That is a very funny joke I did up top.
	You'll just have to trust me on that until you hear why.
	But just, I'll... I'll raise a verbal eyebrow at the point in the episode that correlates to that intro, and then you'll have to think back to the intro that I just did, and then you'll chuckle to yourself.
	You'll have a nice moment where you realize that you did not mishear him.
	He did, in fact, say that word.
	I did say the slur.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, this is take two.
	Take two, everybody.
	We tried to record this episode last night and Tony's mic stopped being a mic for a while.
	It was very infuriating.
	It happened like three times.
	And I was just like, I can't live in this world where Tony's mic isn't a mic.
	And so we said, screw it.
	No episode forever.
	We're canceling the podcast.
	And then Tony was like, no, we should still do the podcast at some point.
	Just not tonight.
	And so we instead had a two and a half hour long friend conversation.
	We had a best friend conversation and I'm mainly saying that so nobody yells at us for this episode being late.
	We were having a very sweet and wholesome friend conversation.
	It was worth it.
	It was worth it.
	It was very much needed.
	And you'll never get to hear it.
	All of our parasocial friends that listen to this show, you'll never know.
	You'll never know the depth to which that conversation reached, how fulfilling it was emotionally for both of us.
	Yeah.
	Somewhere out there, there's like a CIA operative that was shedding a tear.
	That heard the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	But now I got my mic fixed and I duct taped it and I feel really cool and punk rock and stuff.
	Totally.
	So I'm really ready.
	I'm going to bring it today.
	Yeah.
	We're going to bring it.
	We're going to open it up.
	We're going to open up the pit that is this episode.
	We're going to open up the pit.
	Yeah.
	We're going to tear this motherfucker down.
	Right, yeah.
	Let's burn this mother to the ground.
	By which I mean, like, you know, dance and be safe and courteous to everybody around you.
	So, first off, first topic of the night.
	You hear this?
	You hear about this?
	Obama released a new half of an autobiography.
	Insane.
	It's a half autobiography that's 767 pages long or something.
	It's epic.
	You could read this or you could read Dune.
	Those are your choices.
	I don't know why this is hard for anybody.
	You could read Dune and all the appendices.
	Yeah, which I recommend much far more than this.
	Yeah, do it.
	You're on you're on you're at home.
	Anyways, you know, right everybody So just read those books.
	It's worth it another another autobiography from Obama The only thing this dude likes more than means testing social services is writing autobiographies Laughter Yeah I mean, Jay-Z still puts out material, and all of his work's kind of autobiographical, and I think that they're two parallel, you know, they're kind of... These are his albums, you know?
	I don't know... This is his Blueprint Volume 1, and then Blueprint Volume 2 will come out next.
	Well, I think it's more like his pink print, if you know what I mean.
	Because Obama's a fucking woman, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's true.
	It's Michelle's blueprint, because she's a man.
	I don't know if Obama would appreciate that comparison.
	I don't think he would like it.
	No.
	No.
	But, I mean, maybe now, because Jay-Z's old and pulled his pants up.
	Oh, did he finally pull his pants up?
	He pulled his pants up.
	I haven't seen Jay-Z's underwear in ages.
	He grew his hair out.
	He grew his hair out?
	What's he doing with his hair?
	He's really in his old man bag.
	It's gonna suck to have to chop his head off.
	So Obama did half an autobiography.
	It's like $100 if you want to go buy it, right?
	I think to get the whole thing it's going to be $100.
	Yeah, actually.
	And we didn't buy that shit.
	I do have a plug.
	I do have a political book plug, but I didn't even think it was worth it.
	I didn't even think it was worth it to reach out to the plug for this one.
	We are instead going to Read from an Atlantic article, an Atlantic interview that Jeffrey Goldberg did with Obama.
	You may have heard some of the hits from this interview, but I promise you there is more in here worth hearing about.
	If you haven't read the article, like I wouldn't have if I weren't hosting a podcast.
	Much like the Blueprint 2, there's a lot of sleepers on this one.
	But there's a lot.
	It's what you come to expect from an Atlantic piece about Obama.
	It's exactly what you want.
	It's that glowing Obama-Atlantic combo that we all love so much.
	Uh, it's gotten the nation through some tough times, and, uh, I mean... Uh, here it is.
	Here it is now.
	In its purest form.
	Okay, this is the first paragraph.
	This is how this interview starts.
	Barack Obama was describing to me the manner in which the Mongol emperor and war crimes innovator Genghis Khan would besiege a town.
	Quote, they gave you two- They gave you two choices, he said.
	If you open the gates, we'll just kill you quickly.
	and take your women and enslave your children.
	But we won't slaughter them.
	But if you hold out, then we'll slowly boil you in oil and peel off your skin.
	This was not meant to be commentary on the Trump presidency.
	This is the opening line.
	This is how the article opens!
	Like, just straight out the gates.
	Peeling skin.
	We flayed some folks?
	This was not meant to be commentary on the Trump presidency.
	Not directly, at least.
	In any case, Obama has more respect for Genghis Khan than he has for Donald Trump.
	Naturally.
	Naturally.
	I guess Obama doesn't care that Genghis Khan was cancelled recently?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's pretty bad, dude.
	You want to stand by that legacy over... okay.
	I mean, you're watching all those, like, hip, prestige Netflix and HBO Max dramas, but you can't, I don't know, turn on Twitter and see that Genghis Khan is actually... actually not that great, fam.
	No, no, kind of problematic.
	Kind of a toxic dude.
	Kind of high-key problematic.
	High-key toxic dude.
	Um, yeah, it's a weird thing, I mean, but I mean, what do you expect from somebody like Barack Obama, you know?
	Who just is just this big swinging dick, you know?
	So you gotta respect the ones like Genghis Khan.
	Right.
	He raised the subject of Genghis Khan in order to make a specific, extremely Obama-like point.
	If you think today's world is grim, simply cast your mind back 800 years to the steppes of Central Asia.
	Compare the degree of brutality and invidality and corruption and just sheer folly that you see across human history with how things are now, he said.
	It's not even close.
	I like that.
	If you simply go back 800 years to when Genghis Khan was brutally raping and pillaging and murdering, today doesn't look so bad.
	I just love that Barack Obama, the black American man, had to go back 800 years for that type of brutality.
	That's a good point.
	Instead of just going back 40 years, a couple weeks, anything like that.
	He had to go all the way back to 800 years to find that kind of brutality.
	I don't know what you're talking about because I am under the impression that America was already great.
	America's been great.
	So are you talking smack about my country, bro?
	Not my country.
	- We're not the same country that has a comic book based on black politicians.
	Like we're good, we're fine.
	We have comic books Yeah, hey if you think it's I'm trying to do my oba I think I think I lost my Obama.
	I'm trying to do it.
	If you think it's bad that I helped immiserate the middle class, bailed out the banks, and installed an unsustainable corporate health care policy, well, at least you aren't having your eyeballs boiled in a vat of acid.
	You know that pulling your fingernails out was an option, right?
	I love how this anecdote starts off with, uh, they gave you two choices.
	Genghis Khan would give you two choices.
	Uh, we'll just kill you quickly and take your women if you lower the gates or whatever.
	Otherwise we'll torture you, or whatever.
	I'm assuming he didn't intend this, but it reminds me a lot of the two choices we have today.
	You know what I mean?
	I think, in a way, the Democrats might be the more torturous option.
	Yes.
	They're cruel because they give us a faint of hope.
	And that's cruel.
	It's not nice.
	Not only do they give us a faint hope or whatever, they fucking scold us while we are getting evicted from our homes.
	While we are not being able to pay our student loans, while we can't buy a fucking house, while we probably won't be able to retire at all, while we probably will be one of the last generations on Earth to be able to survive here, the whole time this is happening, we are going to hear about how, hey, well, at least you're not having your fingernails pulled.
	Yeah.
	You're welcome, women drivers.
	You know, it's just like, the barge is so fucking low, it's so sad.
	Like, it's gonna be 120 degrees in Southern California.
	There's gonna be mass, like, extinction events, and the Democrats are going to yell at you for tweeting at the first female, you know, minister of the Pentagon.
	Like, whatever that position's called.
	Director?
	I don't know what the pen- whatever.
	Hey.
	War criminal.
	Of the Pentagon.
	There you go.
	Okay?
	There you go.
	Someone had to say it.
	You're gonna say, hey fuck you, and they're gonna cancel you for being a misogynist or whatever.
	Yeah, not cool.
	Torture.
	Absolute torture.
	That's actually happening.
	At least the Republicans will just kill you to feed the tree of liberty or whatever.
	They'll just shoot you.
	Your blood has a purpose there.
	The Democrats won't even do anything with the blood because it's not vegan.
	At least the Republicans will water trees with it.
	Uh, okay.
	Obama was in a good mood.
	Happy to discuss the work that it's consumed in.
	Blah blah blah.
	768 pages.
	First half of this autobiography, right?
	We covered a lot of ground in our face- We covered a lot of ground in our face-to-face discussion, which took place on Wednesday.
	I don't care about what fucking day of the week your- your face-to-face conver- Shut the fuck up.
	Are you going for 768 pages yourself, Jeffrey Goldberg?
	The broadest subject of our conversation was the arc of the moral universe.
	Does it still bend toward justice?
	Does it even exist?
	I'm an agnostic about the arc of the moral universe.
	I don't deny that it exists, but I don't necessarily believe in it.
	Yeah, I don't think it's a conversation worth having.
	Because according to what you're saying, I'm not going to live to see the fruits of the labor.
	So fuck off.
	I'm a Scientologist about the arc of the moral universe.
	Like I believe it exists, but you have to like rid your body of evil, uh, evil triggers.
	You have to rid your body of like evil microaggressions, uh, before we can actually bend that arc.
	And the way you do that is by donating money to the democratic party.
	And drinking alkaline water.
	When Obama was elected- so does the arc exist?
	Does this fucking metaphor exist?
	Like, what kind of fucking question is that?
	Anyway, when Obama was elected- The question is, are things getting better?
	Yes or no?
	That's like the question, but they're like, like you said, does this meta- is this the best metaphor?
	Is this metaphor existing?
	Does it happen?
	When Obama was elected 12 years ago, the arc seemed more readily visible, at least to the swath of the country interested in seeing someone other than a white man become president.
	But he now...
	But he now recognizes that the change he represented triggered an almost instantaneous backlash.
	One that culminated in the quote birther conspiracy that catapulted its prime propagandist Donald Trump to the White House.
	Yeah.
	Wild.
	Say that five times fast.
	I'm not going to try that at all.
	Catapulted its prime propagandist.
	So, I think it's funny that we're talking about the arc of the moral universe culminating or resulting in Obama being president.
	That's so tight.
	Man, we're all so happy Obama got to be president.
	We did it.
	I mean, we did though.
	We, we, like, they destroyed the glass ceiling.
	I mean, first we have a black man as president and now we have, now we have a black vice president woman.
	Like, it's, it's done.
	We're crushing it.
	Isn't that kind of fucked up to Kamala Harris?
	Like, shouldn't, shouldn't like the black vice president have come first?
	Like, it's kind of like no big deal, right?
	Well that's like having like that's that that's like sorry that's like having like oh the first black director winning an oscar and then later like the first black assistant director wins an oscar and it's like sorry yeah close yeah well the thing is this is this was a hard one to get through because i mean you gotta remember like she's a she uh married a jewish man this is the first for this is the first vice first man what is that person called
	What is, like, the vice president?
	I don't think they get a title.
	The second lady?
	The second dude?
	The second lady.
	So, like, the second dude is, like, the first Jewish second dude ever.
	So, like, we're destroying anything that resembles glass.
	We are rolling in it.
	We're like Michael Jackson.
	We're like Michael Jackson around any window or mirror.
	It will be broken.
	I'm just picturing like footage of like America grabbing metaphorical hundred dollar bills and washing itself and like rubbing the bills up against its armpit like because we have the first Jewish second man and the first black slash Indian second lady.
	Yeah, it's uh, we're making, we're making, we're, like racism has no hope anymore.
	We're killing it.
	It's awesome.
	I'm in the money.
	We're in the money.
	This is, I realized, I realized too late that this is a very problematic metaphor when we're talking about the first Jewish second man.
	Um, so.
	Yeah, it's... It's very interesting that it's like, well, it looked like the ARC was bidding towards justice because Obama got to be president.
	Like, never mind how that fucking worked out.
	Like, never mind what actually happened or whatever.
	It looked good.
	That did nothing for us.
	It did look good.
	I looked at the TV and it looked good, right?
	Well, it looked great.
	I mean, he's handsome.
	She's beautiful.
	Like, it did look great.
	We loved it.
	Uh, quote, what I think is indisputable is that I signaled, uh, signified a shift in power.
	Uh, that's, I think that's fair to say that you did signify a shift in power.
	Yes.
	You did not actually, uh, affect a shift in power, but you did signify it, Obama.
	Yes, exactly.
	You were, you were like, you, you symbolized it for sure.
	Uh, just my mere presence worried folks, in some cases explicitly, in some cases subconsciously, Obama said.
	And there were folks around to exploit that and tap into that.
	If a Fox News talking head asks, when Michelle and I dap, give each other a fist bump, for you white folks out there, is that a terrorist fist bump?
	That's not a particularly subtle reference.
	If there's a sign in opposition to the ACA in which I'm dressed as an African witch doctor with a bone through my nose, that's not a hard thing to interpret.
	Mm-hmm.
	Can I ask you a problematic question, Tony?
	Uh, yeah.
	Okay.
	I believe so.
	Give me an honest answer.
	You don't have to, like, fucking, you know, walk on eggshells with me or whatever.
	I wouldn't, I wouldn't dare.
	Is it?
	I'm looking at this and I'm like, okay, Obama obviously suffered racism, right?
	Obviously.
	On the face of it.
	There were these fucking signs where it's like, Obama is a witch doctor, Obama is, is whatever.
	I don't like, in my mind, I'm like, You, you, like, suffered those, like, you know, racist overtures or whatever for fucking corporate America.
	For a corporate, like, healthcare policy.
	For the fucking private insurance economy.
	Like, I don't think that that's, like, I don't think you can make yourself a martyr for that shit.
	That's, I mean, like, I acknowledge the racism.
	It probably sucked a lot.
	However, it's, I don't know, it would be like if Rosa Parks was like, I had to be at the back of the line to, like, shoot unarmed civilians, or whatever, but then I refused to be at the back of the line to shoot unarmed civilians, and I got to the front of the line, and it's, it doesn't seem like a noble cause to me, I guess is what I'm saying.
	Well, it's such like a... because the thing is it's low-hanging fruit on both ends, you know?
	Where it's any president who is doing something in opposition or whatever to what the other side like is going to be, you know, satirized and made fun of and characterized and it's they all use low-hanging fruit and like racism is that in both directions where like they're gonna use it to attack him and he's gonna use it to be like look how hard this was and it's like it's it's that whole thing where it's um It's part of the whole good negro, you know?
	It's somebody who's like, I was followed through Louis Vuitton.
	I was followed through there and I bought a purse.
	And it's like, damn, so you can't, like, you're not mad that you got followed.
	You're mad that you got followed and you could afford to buy the purse.
	That's, you know, you see what I'm saying?
	Like, that's how it feels.
	And like, because yeah, we all know that.
	We all know that Barack Obama, like, suffered a ton of racist attacks I mean like we said the president we have now is there because of his racist attacks towards Barack Obama that was his foyer back into politics right but um but like what was it all for bro like you didn't even you didn't even help us out like you that's like the thing that's people forget people forget that like Trayvon was murdered under Barack Obama.
	A lot of this started under Barack Obama.
	Black Lives Matter started under Barack Obama.
	And he didn't do shit to fix that.
	And he's also... we know why he's been quiet now because he's been writing this book.
	He's been... like that's the only way that this guy can come to an interview in this late in the 2020, during this pandemic, during this like mass like execution of black people on the streets that's been going on this entire year, and get up there and say, oh I'm in a great mood.
	Like, the only way you could do that is you've been ignoring everything and writing a book for three years now, which I think is what's been happening.
	I don't want to, like, contradict you too much, but he did, like, stop writing his book at least long enough to get Bernie Sanders out of the primary.
	That is true.
	He did take that break on Super Tuesday.
	Yeah, that was some shit, man.
	Not even not even yeah, like you said not even like make a statement about Black Lives Matter or You know the pandemic like what did he probably said about the pandemic like believe science?
	Well, you probably tweeted like believe science or some shit and I got like three million likes No, he was just like me and my family get daily tests I We're being safe.
	That's what he probably said.
	But it's just like, it's like, yeah, dude, to go back to the original thing, it's like, yeah, man, like you suffered racism and what was it for?
	Like you suffered these like attacks.
	I mean, you know, being, being black, you're going to suffer racism no matter what.
	But it's like, you suffered this onslaught and what did you choose to like?
	What did you choose to, to, uh, yeah.
	Put forward, you know, in the face of this and it's it's insane to I mean, it's it's like tragic.
	It's honestly very tragic There was no like attempts even there was like no even there was no great gestures to black America under like a Barack Obama presidency Like how sick would it have been if he was like, listen guys, we can't give reparations, but what we can do is free education for every black American.
	Like, anything would have been cool.
	The most he did was invite all the rappers to the Oval Office that one time.
	And now Trump's done that too, so it's like you're not even special.
	For Obama, though, the overarching story of America and all humanity is one of fitful progress, and nothing about the past four years has seemed to change his mind.
	Joe Biden's election is proof that America moves forward.
	The persistence of racial animus and resentment-driven populism represents the difficulty of maintaining momentum.
	So, like, hey, we had our first black president, and then we had our first housecracker as president.
	Yeah.
	Like, what is the progress here with Joe Biden getting elected?
	Well, Joe Biden used to be the help.
	And the help, it shows upward mobility.
	The upward mobility of the white man in America is still there.
	So we're maintaining that.
	That's good.
	It's so fucking pointless.
	And then this next paragraph, I don't have much to say about it, but it's just, it's fascinating.
	Obama's, you think you have it so bad, invocation of Genghis Khan was prompted by a passage I read aloud to him.
	In a brief peek Obama quote Osmandias inflected passage about a visit to Egypt, Obama recalls brooding over a face of a forgotten figure etched into an ancient wall, a face that resembled his.
	Quote, all of it was forgotten now.
	None of it mattered.
	The Pharaoh, the slave, and the vandal all along just turned to dust.
	Just as every speech I delivered, every law I passed, and decision I made would be forgotten.
	Just as I and all those I loved would someday turn to dust.
	When you think about it, I'm no different than the Egyptian slave.
	Because one day I will be forgotten.
	He writes from his... What's the area that they live in?
	What's that?
	Where the Obamas live?
	Yeah, what's that fucking- the new house that they- Martha's Vineyard.
	Oh, of course they'd live there!
	One day my estate is gonna be dust, and I keep that close to my mind every night as I lay my head down in one of my 33 bedrooms.
	I thought it was really interesting, the passage in this book about how he wanted to be mummified, though.
	And have his organs preserved in different jars and he's actually building a pyramid right now.
	He wants Rahm Emanuel buried alive with him like a cat.
	Yeah, like imagine being the, well I guess not pharaoh because like their, you know, lineage and all that, but you were a pharaoh for a minute bro, like you were.
	And also it was right so you're just like a you're just like a nihilist like the whole his whole president he was really like guys what's what's the point?
	It's so fucking weird.
	It's it's so it's oh it says which brought him to his main point.
	Quote, America as an experiment is genuinely important to the world not because of the accidents of history that made us the most powerful nation on earth but because America is the first real experiment in building a large multi-ethnic multicultural democracy.
	We don't know yet if that can hold.
	There haven't been enough of them around for long enough to say for certain that it's going to work, he said.
	I don't know, guys.
	We don't know how this is going to turn out.
	My blackness mind, I really gunked it up.
	We don't know how this is going to work.
	We kind of got a little crazy and we've never seen this happen before.
	We don't know how this is going to turn out.
	So what we're doing is we're going to try to put a little bit more in there this time.
	Not as concentrated.
	It's going to be a black female vice president this time.
	It's going to be a little bit of a micro dose.
	We're going to see if we can adjust to it.
	We're trying to inoculate the system.
	This is the same argument that fucking Richard Spencer makes.
	We don't know if this whole multicultural thing can work, right?
	I mean, look at what's going on.
	You know, it's obviously because of the multiculturalism.
	I mean, it's scary.
	Like, have you seen, like, the way mixed people are built?
	Like, we can't have any more super athletes.
	You know?
	We gotta... If there's too many super athletes, they're gonna take over.
	I mean, look at how horrified the audience was by Blake Griffin.
	Look at how divisive his presence was on the court.
	I've never been more scared, horny, afraid, like at once, than seeing that young man in a tank top.
	Wasn't like the Roman Empire?
	Okay, what are you gonna say?
	Nothing, nothing worthwhile.
	I was talking about some show he was on.
	He was on some show.
	I can't remember what it was.
	And he was like, he was like, oh he was like horny in it.
	It was funny.
	Okay.
	A horny Blake Griffin.
	Is that like a horny grandma?
	Is it like a bit?
	Is it a common comedic trope?
	No, it was Broad City.
	He was horny in Broad City.
	Our favorite show, Broad City.
	Our favorite city.
	Our favorite show.
	No, we're a Tuca and Bertie fan right here.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I don't watch any of those shows.
	Wasn't the Roman Empire pretty multicultural?
	Yeah, like that's kind of the whole thing.
	The whitewashing of history is pretty incredible.
	But my favorite thing is the whole, like, people don't know that those Roman statues were not white.
	They're not like solid white.
	They were painted and they were like various shades of tan.
	And like, so it's, it's a really, the whitewashing of history is insane.
	And their, their out, their outfits were all like fucking crazy, like rainbow colored shit.
	Yeah.
	Like goofy shit.
	Very vibrant.
	They look like clowns.
	Yeah.
	And that's something to think about when you think about history.
	Yeah.
	Bunch of fucking clowns.
	Yeah.
	Uh, we don't know if this whole multicultural thing is going to work, uh, Obama said.
	I don't know.
	What, what about if like, The country cared about its people.
	What if the country, like, provided services and benefits to its people, you know, regardless of race?
	What if, what if we actually, like, what if we had a country that was, uh, interested in seeing its population, uh, thrive and, and flourish?
	Wouldn't that be something?
	What if we had a country that wasn't just like, uh, no, you're gonna get none of the benefits.
	You're gonna get none of the, um, sort of connective like communal feeling of being in a country but you're just going to get all of the racism that's all that's going to be there yeah Well that stuff's important.
	You can't just give a country those things because then you're going to lose the real entrepreneurs.
	You're going to lose your real rise and grinders.
	Then what's going to happen?
	Do you think we would have ever had foldable scooters without rise and grinders?
	I don't think we would have.
	Uh, finally, um, this is like probably something people have, have seen from this interview.
	Um, kind of the headline from this interview.
	Uh, they're talking about Trump.
	Obama is talking about how he was, like, surprised by Trump's ascendance, surprised by Trump's popularity, by his presidency in general.
	Okay, uh, Obama says, uh, yeah, you know, I was surprised, yes, and it's this indication of parts of popular culture that I've missed.
	It's interesting.
	People are writing about the fact that Trump increased his support among black men in the 2020 presidential election, and the occasional rapper who supported Trump.
	I have to remind myself that if you listen to rap music, it's all about the bling, the women, the money.
	A lot of rap videos are using the same measures of what it means to be successful as Donald Trump is.
	Everything is gold-plated.
	That insinuates itself and seeps into the culture.
	I don't know if you've seen the new video for the song Bling Bling that just came out.
	That's all they're talking about is diamonds and booty shaking.
	What happened to the party of fiscal responsibility?
	What happened to governments that were about issues?
	Now it's all about bling bling in the form of tax cuts.
	It's all about the hoes, like Melania and Stormy Daniels.
	These folks, they're wearing these huge neckties that sag down to their knees.
	It's all about the drugs, you know, like hydroxychloroquine, you know, or as it's known on the streets, dro.
	So awful.
	He is the...
	He was supposed to be the hip-hop president, and he turned his back on it so hard right here.
	It's so rude.
	This is so fucking funny.
	Black people voted for Donald Trump because they're too hippity-hop.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	We all remember the many rap lines where they referenced being Donald Trump.
	I mean, that's like... It's a thing that kind of existed, but it's also like...
	I don't think a lot of that community is seeing themselves in Donald Trump.
	No.
	Nobody was like, you know what, Lil Wayne does have a point.
	I do make my political choices based on what Lil Wayne would do, because if you've ever watched the Carter documentary, you know that he's a really deep guy.
	I'm like, no one ever thought that.
	It's so stupid.
	He's literally doing... He's doing re-thuglicans.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's saying the thugs are voting for Republicans.
	Yep.
	I don't have a problem with those Republicans.
	I don't have a problem with those Proud Boys.
	Those three percenters.
	But it's those thugs.
	What's those thugs you got a problem with?
	It's amazing.
	It's again like this woke racism that we talked about with the Biden win and the demographic shift, the slight to moderate demographic shift towards Trump among black voters and among Hispanic voters.
	Like, the only arrow in the Democratic quiver to explain that sort of thing is that, oh, those are the bad ones.
	Those are the thugs, those are the hip-hop black people, or those are the white Hispanics.
	Actually, a lot of Hispanics are technically white, and that's why they have the bad part of the brain that makes them vote for Trump.
	Yeah, that disease part.
	The only gesture, the only overture the Democrats made to black people was when we had the opportunity to remain black by voting for Biden.
	I was able to get my card stamped by voting for him.
	That's the only reason I voted for him.
	I thought maybe if I did that, you know... Congratulations, man.
	That's really great.
	I think you can claim 1-8th now, right?
	No, is it probably 1-16th?
	I think I get the whole thing.
	No, you get to apply for the scholarships.
	But that's it.
	Okay, we both know that's not the part of being black that I'm interested in.
	I know, I know, I know.
	It's okay.
	Just not around mixed companies, okay?
	Just keep it within all your other 116th friends.
	Do you count as mixed company?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I'm too concentrated.
	I'm quite literally mixed company, so you can't... I would love for you to be able to, but I can't, you know.
	It's me who can't hear it.
	Um, he goes on, real quick, last paragraph, so I don't know.
	So revealing um and I just want to say again about this previous statement about how oh well these rap people uh all they care about is the bling bling and the money and the women when uh yes once again Obama just bought a multi-million dollar house With dozens of bedrooms on the fucking water.
	Dozens.
	Dozens.
	And like the, like the, the marquee trademark rich white neighborhood.
	Like that is what that place is.
	How fucking dare you?
	Like, I'm not one to get offended on behalf of the black community, I don't think that's my place to do that, but I'm fucking, I'm mad at this.
	I'm like, I'm really mad at it.
	Some might even say the audacity.
	The audacity of this guy.
	Yeah.
	You know what I really want to ask?
	Just get him on a quick one.
	I just want to ask him real plainly.
	Hey Brock, how do you feel about black Americans arming themselves?
	And just see what he says to that.
	that because that would be that would that would to me that would be such a beautiful telling clear thing for us michelle and i were talking about the fact that although we grew up in very different places we were both very much working class lower middle class in terms of income and we weren't subject day to day to the uh that's a wow typo in In the Atlantic.
	I think I could be the editor of the Atlantic.
	All I have to do is notice bullshit like this.
	And we weren't subject... Update your LinkedIn.
	We weren't subject, day-to-day, to the sense that if you don't have this stuff, then you were somehow not worthy.
	America has always had a caste system.
	Rich and poor.
	Not just racially, but economically.
	But it wasn't in your face most of the time when I was growing up.
	Then you start seeing lifestyles of the rich and famous.
	That sense that either you've got it or you're a loser.
	And Donald Trump epitomizes that cultural movement that is deeply ingrained now in American culture.
	This is like very fucking telling to me about Obama, about liberalism in general, which is that, hey, Yeah, you could be poor.
	It's fine.
	It's fine to be poor, to not be able to afford healthcare, to not be able to afford food, or like a home, or a car, or whatever.
	As long as somebody isn't mean about it.
	As long as somebody isn't making a TV show about how bad you have it.
	Because that's when it gets insulting.
	That's when it really hurts.
	Yeah, don't exploit it, you know?
	The poverty, the hunger, the untreatable, treatable illness.
	That hurts, but what really hurts is the lack of respect.
	That's what really hurts.
	It's this whole thing where it's like, listen, I know that we have the exact same card, but I'm not gaudy about it.
	I'm not like, gauche.
	I'm not tacky, okay?
	I'm not calling you a loser, I'm calling you a temporarily disenfranchised winner.
	Yeah.
	It's just, honestly, I'm just really happy to see any type of, like, class consciousness coming from Barack Obama.
	It's really refreshing.
	I like how he says working class and then immediately says lower middle class.
	Like, hmm, what?
	What?
	Yeah, kind of a, kind of a, I don't know, meaningless distinction there.
	Yeah, and it's just like, hey, you can be poor and it's fine as long as nobody calls you poor and makes fun of you for it.
	Yeah.
	It's, it's, I, that's like the epitome of like liberalism.
	It's just like, there, it's a different, it's a different era than when I was growing up, you know?
	Uh, now, now you get made fun of, uh, for not being able to get like your foot looked at.
	Like, like back then you used to be able to like suffer in, in silent dignity.
	And now it gets broadcast on TV.
	No, it's okay.
	It's okay that you're, like, unhoused, but now you get to wear, like, a pin that we're gonna provide for you that says that you're unhoused and you can celebrate it.
	Yeah.
	And we're gonna hashtag it.
	We're gonna create a new national holiday that's National Unhoused Day.
	normalize normalize being unhoused yeah fanny may is gonna have like a fucking woke you know slideshow that's like normalize being unhoused all right yeah There's nothing wrong with it.
	No, I know that you, like, lost your job and had no insurance and are, like, in crippling debt.
	That's fine!
	There's nothing wrong, you're okay!
	I see you.
	I hear you.
	But please don't put your tent there.
	Okay, now to turn our eyes to another election-related topic, another electoral politics-related subject, and another beef we have with this upcoming neoliberal administration.
	Um, Biden hasn't even been sworn in as president and already he's bimbifying our hottest male stars.
	It's insane.
	He is already feminizing our sexiest dudes.
	I got news for you, Biden.
	There's no such thing as the position of president-elect.
	You're powerless here.
	We're of course talking about, what's his name?
	What's the kid's name?
	Harry Styles?
	Harry Styles wearing a dress in a magazine or something.
	And I want to say it's cool to wear a dress.
	It can look good.
	Didn't look good on Harry.
	This dress was dog shit.
	Like, he would look good in a dress.
	He's a handsome, sexy guy, but... This dress looked bad.
	Yeah and like Harry Styles has done plenty of other, you know, call it like androgynous looks that have I think looked way better and like the the praising and love of this of this Vogue shoot is so annoying because as we'll see from like the reactions of people who were just like In love with this whole thing?
	It is complete erasure of Dennis Rodman, of Andre 3000, of more recently Young Thug who like When you see Young Thug in a dress, it's stunning.
	It's not just a regular dress.
	Manz is laid out.
	The whole thing was gorgeous.
	It was so impressive.
	No one was bigging him up like this guy is getting bigged up for some reason.
	It just wasn't a good fit for me.
	I just didn't like it.
	I think, yeah.
	And it's been done better.
	It has been done better.
	The dress isn't good.
	I think he could have picked a better dress.
	It's interesting to me because... I mean, he didn't pick the dress.
	I'm not going to knock him for that.
	None of this is Harry Styles' fault.
	This is the reaction to Harry Styles' fault.
	In my mind.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's weird that it's still a big deal when Dennis Rodman was wearing a dress in the 90s, when Kurt Cobain was wearing a dress in the 90s, when Prince was himself in the fucking 80s.
	It's very weird that this is still a big deal.
	It kind of sucks that it's still a big deal.
	Again, no shots at Harry Styles.
	It kind of fucking sucks that he can go on the cover of a magazine wearing a dress and the internet loses its mind.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're gonna freak out when they discover Scotland.
	Um, the right wing did not have a measured reaction to this.
	The right wing forgot all about Dennis Rodman and Kurt Cobain and, uh, and Young Thug.
	Uh, the right wing kind of lost their mind and it was very funny.
	Candace Owens had a big tweet.
	I'm so happy that Candace Owens has like broken into the mainstream from when like we were covering her on Facebook.
	Seriously.
	Regular ass people know Candace Owens now.
	Candace Owens is like a big deal.
	It's really interesting.
	Candace Owens had a tweet that went, you know, she quote tweeted the Harry Styles Brave magazine cover or whatever.
	She tweeted, there is no society that can survive without strong men.
	The East knows this.
	In the West, the steady feminization of our men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to our children is not a coincidence.
	It is an outright attack.
	Bring back manly men.
	I love this.
	It's just so wrong.
	It's just wrong.
	I mean, the whole two-gender construct is a very Western thing.
	That is directly a Western mentality.
	You know, that's like a modern western con like thing.
	Throughout, referencing the east, who is she referencing that has this like super strong manly man gender role thing?
	No, I think she's referencing the Chinese Communist Virus Party.
	Oh, okay.
	I think she's saying, like, while we're focusing on COVID, they're sending another virus over here.
	Which is, uh, you know, having titties.
	Like, guys having titties is the next virus that we're not even paying attention to.
	Yes, the soy boy infortation.
	Yeah, okay.
	I see that.
	Um, and it's, it's, it's so funny how like fucking racist she is.
	The East knows this.
	Like, this is like the Eastern menace.
	This is like the red menace thing.
	I figured there's a thing where like, in racism, where the East just means China and communists.
	I forgot about that.
	Um, in the West, the steady feminization of our men at the same time that Marxism is being, like, does she think that Harry Styles isn't fucking?
	I think that's a thing, yeah.
	I was like, what?
	Harry Styles is doing just fine.
	He's definitely doing okay.
	What fucking model is he living with right now?
	You know what I mean?
	Also, was he ever known for being a tough, macho guy dude bro?
	Fair point.
	I don't think that's ever been a thing.
	Look what they did to my boy!
	I think that's what it is.
	Candace Owens is our age, right?
	Candace Owens is a millennial.
	She's probably like 30-something.
	I think she might even be a year or two younger than us.
	A little depressing there.
	She definitely grew up flicking her bean to Harry Styles.
	She definitely did some scribbling to Harry Styles and I think that is where this like antagonism comes from.
	She is fucking pissed that like he's no longer doing it for her.
	I think there's also I mean I don't know about her specifically I think you're right there but I think another thing that's different about Harry Styles and this thing is that Harry Styles isn't intimidating.
	Zayn Malik on the other hand.
	Malik, I don't know how to say his name.
	I think Malik, yeah.
	But somebody like Young Thug is intimidating to someone like Candice Owens.
	So you're not going to go up to Young Thug and tell him, look at how you've been effeminized, you've probably eaten too much soy and you're going to let the women take over?
	Well ironically, she would get more traction by doing that probably.
	What Young Thug did was far braver than what Harry Styles is doing.
	Not to say that Harry Styles was trying to be brave or anything like that.
	Again, no shots at him.
	But... What Young Thug did by fucking being in a dress on the cover of his rap album...
	Is like, is something.
	Is actually something.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	She's not interested in playing to that demographic of black dudes who would have gotten fucking weirded out by Young Thug.
	She's not interested in that.
	She's interested in the conservative, reactionary, racist, right-wing, mostly white, male demographic.
	So she's going to come hard at Harry Styles because that's who's already going to be on their fucking radar.
	That's going to be like the best audience.
	And you're right too, because the people of her generation she's speaking to who would be attracted to Harry Styles growing up are also probably somewhat disappointed in this action.
	So yeah, that's totally the direction.
	I just love how terrified this makes them.
	It's so funny.
	Speaking of how terrified it makes them, this is something we've covered a lot on the show, something we've seen throughout the run.
	I don't know if we've ever like really explored it.
	What is the fear of like men, or not only what is the fear, we kind of know what the fear is.
	It's very like libidinal.
	It's very like psychosexual.
	They're going to steal my dick.
	The communists are going to take my peepee away from me, right?
	If we want to take this seriously, from Candace Owens, who doesn't have a male identity to be feminized, she herself does not have this, like, castration fear, right?
	She doesn't have that.
	What is the logic behind, if we want to take it seriously and not just say this is cynical and meant to like gin up a right-wing base and and you know get them all riled up or whatever, what is like the logic behind communist China wants us or like the the deep state here or the globalists here want us to be bimbified
	want our men to be feminized so that question mark so that blank so that we can destroy the traditional family but why but again we're stuck why that's a means to what end because if you don't have a lot of progeny like you won't you won't you don't have like your um You like your autonomy either, right?
	So if you only have one kid and they just, you know, you only have one kid...
	You don't have, like, a little army to, like, defend your property.
	Yeah, they're depriving us of our well-regulated militia.
	Yeah.
	There's this hope, there's this hope that, like, you know, as long as we have, like, virile strong men who can, like, impregnate me over and over again, I can, like, build my, like, my, um... God, like, what are... There's so many movies like that where it's, like, a pack of brothers in the Old West who are, like, Defend the land, you know, it's like the sisters brothers progeny, you know, it's like that's it's Or Yellowstone, you know?
	It's Yellowstone.
	It's all that.
	There's that hope in the back.
	Yeah, like in Yellowstone you have to be so masculine that you can't even fucking marry a woman.
	Yeah.
	You can't even impregnate a woman because you need to be Kevin Costner's slave.
	You need to be one of his bachelor slaves on the ranch.
	Yeah it's like there's nothing more important than family so if you can just have more of that you can have more people who you can like pull that card with.
	That's right.
	I think that's cool.
	We talk about a right-left spectrum and an authoritarian-libertarian spectrum or whatever.
	People don't talk about the family versus... What's the opposite of family?
	Like... Solitude?
	Or whatever?
	Yeah, I think so.
	We don't talk about that spectrum, right?
	Yeah.
	It was weird.
	The other day, Penny was like...
	Yeah, you know, because nothing's more important than family, and I was like, what?
	What are you talking about?
	Have you been watching Sons of Anarchy?
	What the fuck?
	What are you talking about?
	No, apparently they've been watching Schitt's Creek, though.
	That Eugene Levy is a surprising source of fascist ideology.
	But I was just like, actually, like, it's more complex than that, kid.
	Like, we gotta talk about the nuclear family and the obligations you do and do not have there.
	Like, there's, you know, we're still just people, like, and it's so, it's so weird that, I don't know, I've never told her those words, like, nothing's more important than family.
	Like, I don't know where she heard that.
	Like, maybe her, like, fucking grandpa?
	I don't know.
	It's, it's just a, it's a, It's so ingrained.
	It's so ingrained in us.
	It's so interesting.
	Yeah, okay, so I'm trying to decide when I want to bring up this point.
	It's a point I've made before.
	I think I'll make it right here, right?
	The feminization of our men.
	This is a phrase that Candace Owen uses right here.
	Yes.
	The feminization of our men.
	She's talking about Harry fucking Stiles in a dress, right?
	Yeah.
	Harry Stiles who says, I'm a guy.
	I identify as a guy.
	I think he's heterosexual.
	I don't know how he sexually identifies.
	I know he's got like, you know, uh, girls and shit.
	I'm a man and I want to wear a dress and this is like how I am expressing myself.
	It's got nothing to do with, you know, my sexuality or whatever.
	She's calling that the feminization of men.
	Yeah.
	Which is implicitly acknowledging a gender spectrum.
	Which is implicitly acknowledging a societal definition of gender.
	Yeah.
	If you are at all able to, quote, feminize a man,
	Then you are acknowledging that gender exists in a, not only a spectrum, but a spectrum that is expressed physically by how you present yourself, which is all, you know, uh, I don't even want to say the left, which is all like, you know, people who understand gender identity have been saying this whole time.
	It's that thing they do all the time, where it's like, okay, now, take it one step further.
	Just see that idea through.
	And they just never do.
	They never, they just, it tastes, it's like, I don't know, it's like having a mature palate, where it's like, oh, nope, that smells yucky.
	Okay, but you gotta taste it now.
	Like, it actually tastes really good.
	No, I don't like it.
	And it's like, no, but like, take it one step further.
	It's fine.
	They never do it.
	Well, it's like, there are only two genders, man and a woman, it's based on your chromosomes, but also if you sit down to pee, you're a woman.
	Yeah.
	That's like the extent of the principle that's involved in this sort of ideology.
	Yeah, and then when, like, someone who you see as, like, a dude sits down to pee, you're like, no!
	What are you- what are you doing?
	You can't- that's against the rules!
	And then you, like, fucking automatically become attracted to that dude, because now he's a woman, and you're like, shit, I'm allowed to like him now.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	This is- this is like- Excuse me, I'm allowed to like her now.
	You have to respect the pronouns.
	Sitting- sitter.
	Uh, and then Ben Shapiro, like, quoted this tweet to support Candace Owens, who is part of, like, the Daily Wire empire now.
	Uh, he says, This is perfectly obvious.
	Anyone who pretends that it is not a referendum on masculinity for men to don a floofy dress is treating you as a full-on idiot.
	Masculinity and femininity exist.
	Outward indicators of masculinity and femininity exist in nearly every human culture.
	Boys are taught to be more masculine in virtually every human culture because the role of men is not always the same as the role of women.
	And it's like, once again, you were talking about social expressions of gender!
	You fu- like, Does he know this is what he's talking about?
	Is he trying to tiptoe along this line of like not tipping off his audience?
	Because he says right here, outward indicators of masculinity and femininity, aka gender expression.
	Yeah.
	It's like, you're so fucking close, you idiot.
	You fucking idiot.
	You're so goddamn close.
	It's beyond close.
	He is talking about gender theory.
	He's literally just saying it.
	Wow, yeah.
	And it's all based on this thing too, where through saying this, he's also kind of exclaiming, and I am not this.
	I am all that is masculine.
	Right.
	I am peak masculine.
	Me and my sister's husband are the manliest men that have ever been men and like that's the way it should be and we would never wear a dress.
	No, and it's funny because in this same tweet, he says, Boys are taught to be more masculine in virtually every human culture because the role of men.
	Okay, aside from the idea that boys have to be taught to be masculine, what does masculinity mean if boys have to be taught to do that?
	It's just like, I mean, what he's saying here is each culture arbitrarily decides what it means to be masculine and then has to train their, quote, male members to do that thing that quote, male members to do that thing that is masculinity.
	Okay?
	Not only that, he's saying, if we don't teach boys to be masculine, then they're gonna be girls!
	Like, he's saying that it's something that's not intrinsic in each person.
	He's literally just saying that it's not something that's, you know, inherent in nature.
	It's not nature, it's something that has to be taught.
	It's amazing.
	He's gonna hate the movie Mulan.
	He's going to freak out when he sees that one.
	Um, okay, let's, uh, let's move on to comments.
	What are we doing on time here?
	Well, yeah, let's let's go to comments here, Tony.
	Is that okay with you?
	Yeah, that's great.
	Uh, Kenny Stewart says, about Harry Styles and the article that I'm that I'm pulling comments from was an article that from the Daily Wire on Ben Shapiro's Facebook that was the headline of this Daily Wire article was Harry Styles dress it's not about masculinity it's about cultural appropriation Incredible.
	Incredible.
	I love this.
	It took me a while to find a non-paywalled version of this article.
	I had to go to like Reddit to find a link to this.
	Because I signed up for a Daily Wire account thinking I could read this article if I just signed up.
	So I signed up and I made my username John Hinckley Jr.
	And then I found out you still had to pay like four bucks a month to read this article.
	So now, so I didn't finish the signing up process and I'm getting emails from Ben Shapiro that say the title of this email is from Ben Shapiro is problem checking out?
	Hey John, I noticed you didn't complete your Daily Wire membership.
	Did you run into any problems?
	Feel free to reply to this email to let me know how we can help.
	I feel like you should be like, yeah, I would like a free trial.
	Yeah, I don't know if I want to partake in your service.
	Let me get a little taste, you know?
	Let me get a little taste there.
	It's like when you go to the bar and you're like, oh I don't know, what's this cider like?
	What's it taste like?
	Let me just try it a little bit.
	And then when he sends you the link for the free week access, you call him a hypocrite socialist.
	Just give me handouts out.
	But I did find a free version of how Harry Styles' dress is not about masculinity, it's about cultural appropriation.
	And now we have to admit that yes, it is bad that he wore the dress because it's cultural appropriation.
	Something we're very concerned about here on the left.
	The real problem here is that the left have shown that the issue of cultural appropriation, one they claim to defend with fervor, is suddenly unimportant.
	The term, quote, cultural appropriation, refers to the adoption of parts of one culture by members of another culture, with added controversy applied to those of a so-called, quote, dominant culture appropriating from, quote, disadvantaged or victimized minority cultures.
	Well, we all know women are the majority of this population, so I don't know where they're going with this.
	With this definition in mind, and given that the left routinely presents women as victims of some inescapable patriarchy, how can they then celebrate the appropriation of female culture by a male?
	I love this idea so much.
	What's funny is, if they wanted to do this, there is an argument here.
	Where it's like, yes, Harry Styles gets to wear a dress, because Harry Styles, who is a heteronormative cis male, gets to wear a dress without, like, the repercussion or, like, stigma of, say, like, a drag queen.
	Or, you know, someone who has been doing this, like, as an expression of art for a long time.
	But they could never do that, because then you have to acknowledge that those things are good.
	I think it's very funny for a couple reasons.
	Once again, because they're implicitly trying to do a gotcha here on the left for cultural appropriation.
	But in order to do that, you have to acknowledge that gender is once again cultural.
	It's it's an it's a very funny thing that they tried to do here and they were just like yeah so uh well what you're saying basically is that you're stealing from the culture of women Called the culture of femininity, at least in the west, let's just say.
	The western woman.
	Yeah, so that's obviously very funny.
	Remember when you over-scold, there's three fingers pointing back at you.
	Three fingers scolding you, yeah.
	It's also funny because nobody in this comment section understood what the article was about.
	Oh yeah, probably super lost.
	Because it's behind a paywall, so people aren't going to read it, period.
	And to say Joe Biden, people aren't going to read this, and that's on period.
	But also, Like, you're Ben Shapiro, you're Daily Wire, and you're, like, trying to one-up the left by saying that this is cultural appropriation, and your readers are like, uh, women is pussy.
	Like, women isn't a culture, women is a pussy, and this doesn't make any sense, and like, fuck Harry Styles for thinking that he, or like, fuck the left, If we're calling this cultural appropriation, it's just like, no, this is what your dumbass right-wing radio DJ was trying to say.
	I want to see the person that does read the article and doesn't quite understand it, and their reactionary response is like, oh, what's next?
	I'm not going to be allowed to make sandwiches?
	I can't do my own dishes?
	No, a lot of the comments were literally like, Hey, if you want to be a woman, Harry Styles, then yeah, why don't you wash some dishes, huh?
	And see how you like it.
	Why don't you have a period?
	Why don't you have a period and see how you like it?
	All right.
	That's what I thought.
	It sucks being a woman.
	I hate being a woman.
	I wish I could be a man.
	Basically.
	Again, so close.
	Kenny Stewart says, It's the earring for me.
	Am embarrassed for him, they say.
	Am trying too hard to pull it off.
	Been out of the limelight for five minutes.
	He got to shock just like Justin Bieber knob jockey at the Anne Frank Museum, writing she would have been a Bieber.
	It won't be long till he dead.
	Massive drug overdose with some fruit shoved up his ass.
	Oh, arse, by the way.
	Arse.
	Well, we have an American audience, so... That's why it's crucial that we other this person.
	Oh, sorry.
	Kenny clearly has no idea how huge and relevant Harry Styles is right now.
	And has been.
	For some time.
	Did you listen to that Watermelon song?
	What's the song called?
	Uh, yeah, like, I don't know that song, but I like songs off of the last album.
	I've never heard a One Direction song.
	I've never heard a One Direction song, but there was a couple Harry Styles songs I like.
	While I was looking for stuff for this episode, I never heard a One Direction song, never heard a Harry Styles song, but I did hear a Math Rock cover of a Harry Styles song in that it was just some guy riffing and tapping out a Harry Styles song.
	And I was like, oh shit, this is a good song.
	When it's like a real instrument, you know, like a guitar and not like a turntable or like beeps and boops and buttons or whatever.
	Like, oh wow, now this is real music, is what I said.
	And Obama like nodded silently at me, you know?
	Usually I don't like this kind of stuff, but...
	Uh, Lori Losey said to somebody who was like, I don't care if Harry Styles wore a dress.
	Like, what are you fucking talking?
	There were a lot of detractors, like a lot of people, even who like follow Ben Shapiro could not be bothered to be mad at Harry Styles in a dress.
	Uh, Lori.
	Time for this.
	Lori Losey said to reply to somebody who was like, I don't care about this, you know, like, hey, I'm a free market libertarian.
	If he wants to wear a dress, you know, as long as he paid full price for it, I don't, I don't care, you know?
	Yeah.
	And Lori Losey said, you're a prime example of what's wrong with society.
	Males do not and should not wear dresses.
	I would never allow my nephew to wear a dress.
	What the fuck, you nosy-ass uncle?
	What's wrong with you?
	No, this is a nosy-ass aunt.
	Most nosy-ass aunt?
	This is Lori, yeah.
	Lori is like taking a ruler to her nephew's knuckles whenever he like looks askance at a Barbie doll.
	Yeah?
	I would never allow my nephew to wear a dress!
	What?
	Like, you have say in that?
	You have final say in your nephew's wardrobe?
	Yeah, mind your goddamn business!
	That is not- I would be- I would be so heated!
	Imagine- okay, like, imagine if your aunt was, like, not a kooky aunt who was, like, wearing a shawl and, like, lighting incense or whatever, but instead she was, like, rigidly, uh, enforcing heteronormative behavior.
	Sorry!
	I mean, actually, yeah, I- I- I had that when I was a kid.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	When I used to live with my aunt, I used to have to, like, like, tuck my shirt in and, like, take my hat off and I couldn't listen to, like, music out loud.
	That's not what a man does.
	A man doesn't enjoy music.
	No, that was the whole thing.
	I don't want to see you expressing joy.
	You can only suffer.
	You must know suffering.
	I did several, several aunts.
	My most prominent aunt, you know, was like a short bodybuilding gymnast who would arm wrestle my guy friends at birthday parties.
	And like wreck them, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	She had like a short haircut with a long braided like Padawan tail.
	That's what I think of when I think of an aunt.
	Like, aside from her other, you know, faults or whatever, I don't think of her, like, you know, uh, I don't know, uh, making sure I was wearing pants growing up.
	The best aunts are kooky.
	I didn't have any kooky aunts.
	They were all, like, conservative aunts.
	That's sad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This comment keeps- We had some fun times, though.
	Don't get me wrong.
	This comment keeps going.
	You want a daughter?
	Then have a little girl.
	Just have one, alright?
	Just make it happen.
	Don't encourage your child to be a damn sissy because your line of though suggests you'd rather raise a wimp than a man.
	I like that.
	I like this whole thing too.
	It's like... That was the Vogue article.
	It was like, we let Harry Styles' mom dress him up in a dress.
	We let Harry Styles' mom play dress up with Harry.
	He's a big doll.
	We let Harry Styles pick out his outfit and now he's not going to be able to defend the homestead from an attack by the Apaches!
	It's so fucking weird.
	Like, I'm pretty sure he can still pull a trigger in a general dress.
	Yeah, but it's hard to be on the offense when you're riding side saddle.
	Um, couple more comments here.
	Brent Thomas says about Harry Styles, the guy needs to spend a 12 hour day on the shovel.
	Dot, dot.
	Followed up with a dozen beers.
	Dot, dot.
	And, oh yeah, toilet!
	Yep, this is totally a toilet.
	What is this?
	No one should do that.
	No one should do 12 hours with a shovel.
	That's bad.
	No, yeah, it's punishment for not being a man.
	That's who needs to do it.
	God, I remember how miserable I was when I was like working that kind of job, like those kind of hours.
	I was just like a miserable human.
	It was just like, and everyone I worked with was just like, well, you know, we're men.
	We just got to be men.
	No, right.
	We'll see what happens is you spend 12 hours a day on the shovel, then you go home and you drink a dozen beers, and then you are more likely to kill yourself, which is one of the preeminent masculine traits in this country.
	It absolutely is.
	That's how you become a man.
	You become more prone to suicide.
	The most masculine thing you can do is free yourself of this mortal coil.
	Finally, Scott Fisher says, apologies to my new neighbor, Scott Fisher says, So, he's a woman or likes to pretend or has femininity.
	That's who he is.
	That's okay.
	For him, I'm straight and I don't care for this fashion or this crap.
	That's my preference and none of this matters.
	Acknowledge the various types of people and establish some preferences if you want or don't.
	Have a great day.
	Hell yeah, Scott.
	Let's go.
	The energy all day, buddy.
	Love, uh, Woke Minion Death Cult.
	You love to see it, folks.
	You fucking, you fucking love it.
	We do, we do.
	I love it.
	I don't care for this crap, but he likes it, so who cares?
	That's cool.
	It's really none of my business.
	Comma, comma, comma.
	Who gives a shit?
	Comma, comma.
	Help me find Del Taco.
	Oh, yeah.
	I love when we get a good wholesome comment like that.
	It's so refreshing.
	That's the episode, folks.
	Thank you so much.
	Sorry for the lateness of this episode.
	Sorry for the lack of an episode last week, but we got a fucking banging Patreon episode with Chris Cabin where we finally did Yellowstone, something that I've been wanting to do for a while.
	Kevin Costner himself is part of so many weird like minion death cult adjacent media properties.
	The conversation started off, not the conversation that we had on the show, but the conversation about what episode we were going to do with Chris from We Hate Movies, if you're not familiar.
	Very good podcast to check out.
	I was we were thinking about doing the Kevin Costner movie black or white which is where Kevin Costner has a mixed-race granddaughter his white daughter dies and he wants to withhold custody from the black thug Son-in-law or whatever.
	We were thinking about covering that movie and then I watched the trailer again and it was just really boring.
	It seems like a Hallmark movie.
	It seems like an unedgy Hallmark movie.
	The content is still obviously funny.
	It was just going to make me upset.
	It wasn't going to give me the joy of the white on white crime you get to experience in Yellowstone.
	Then also, Kevin Costner and Diane Lane have a new movie coming out about, once again, regaining custody of their grandchild.
	Gotta get those grandbabies!
	It seems like it might be a Minion Death Cult episode, but what we did talk about was Yellowstone, where Kevin Costner plays a multi-millionaire rancher slash politician slash small question mark business tyrant slash livestock cop.
	Who equips his people in like full flak jackets and AR-15s to steal his cattle back from Native Americans and we are somehow supposed to identify with this main character.
	We are somehow supposed to like him for being a rough-and-tumble traditional male.
	It was an experience for sure.
	I'm still gonna watch the rest of the season.
	You should watch the rest of the season.
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	Every weekly bonus episode we're doing going forward and you support the show and we love you folks for it and you get to listen immediately to that episode with Chris Cabin about Yellowstone.
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	Thanks so much for listening.
	Have a good night everybody.
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