I forgive Joe Biden. He has washed away his sins against our race. (w/ Kath Barbadoro)
This week Kath Barbodoro of the What A Time To Be Alive and Lie, Cheat and Steal podcasts joins us to discuss Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's VP pick and the insufferable liberal response. Also, Minneapolis allows toplessness in parks, leading to a tidal wave of angry, horny racism in the comment section of World Net Daily. Support the show for $3/month and get a bonus episode every week at http://patreon.com/miniondeathcult Music: Jefferson Airplane - She Has Funny Cars
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Joining us is Kath Barbadoro from the What A Time To Be Alive podcast and the Lie, Cheat, and Steal podcast.
Thank you so much for joining us, Kath.
Hi, thank you for having me, and thank you for pronouncing my last name right and doing my credits.
That's so much.
I feel very honored.
I typed out the inflection that I assumed your last name had.
Just by ear and by sight, I typed it out phonetically and I'm glad it worked out.
I'm happy he took it because I would have messed it up for sure.
of like, I don't know, I'm not too good at like, you know, Anglo names.
Well, people screw it up all the time.
And it's like, it's very, it is exactly how it's spelled.
But I think people see all the letters and they get scared.
They get lazy.
Yeah, because like, I want to call you Kath Barbadoe.
They don't read the whole thing.
Yeah, I want to do Kath Barbadoe, but there's an extra thing at the end.
I get Barbadoe.
I get Barbados.
I had a very sad experience in college where, like, right when I started college, it was back when you had, like, you would get, like, a directory with everybody's, like, name and where they lived in it.
And this guy from Barbados just knocked on my door because I guess he thought, he thought, first of all, that my last name was Barbados and that meant that I was from Barbados.
Absolutely.
And then I answered the door and it was me and he was very disappointed and I felt very sad that I could not be from Barbados for him.
That's weird because it almost sounds like- But I was also like, in fairness, you probably should have read the whole name before you like walked across the campus to find me.
Probably just don't do a cold call on someone's last name in general, I think.
Yeah, it's probably a bad move.
But I mean, maybe if it's like Barbados, like, that's a pretty, like, you know, small community, maybe he was hoping that it was like, oh, maybe I know this person.
And then, yeah, it just immediately knew that, yeah, oh, this is a mistake.
This is not what I thought it was.
Is Barbados still in, like, medieval times or, like, feudal times where your last name is just, like, the region you were, you herald from?
Yeah, yeah.
I guess.
I guess that's what he was assuming.
Well, anyway.
Yeah, I had no information for him.
So, I want to thank you, Kath, for joining us and for also not having a podcast called, like, PodCath.
Yeah.
Hey, no problem.
Yet.
A podcast called PodCath Yet.
Yeah.
I'm here for it, actually.
I just, I wouldn't do that, personally.
Well, yeah, it would make no sense if you did that.
Why would you do that?
I'm not much of a pun person.
I appreciate a good one, but I'm usually not the genesis of a pun.
You gotta dig a little deeper than just the name of the medium in which you're working.
You know what I mean?
It's like writing a rock and roll song about rock and roll.
Those are the best rock and roll songs I know what you're talking about.
That's kind of true.
I don't know.
Sabbath kind of like... I don't listen to them after they sold their souls for rock and roll.
Let's just put it that way.
Yeah.
We've been getting a lot of requests, a lot of notes from listeners who I will say are not unhappy with the content we've put out.
But we have been getting some requests from listeners.
Please, please MinionDeathCult, take another look at the libs.
Take another look at the libs.
And I mean, with the news this week, I think it's a pretty great opportunity to just look at what the libs are doing on Facebook with the announcement of Kamala Harris as Joe Biden's vice president.
Yes.
We're not really going to be taking a look at, you know, what the conservatives think about that.
Although I will say, I think it's funny that Donald Trump... I think it's Donald Trump.
Maybe he's got people who do this now.
Maybe he's, like, lazy.
But Donald Trump came up with the nickname for Kamala Harris, which is Phony Kamala Harris.
And that's like phony, more like phonying it in, I think.
Yeah, not his best.
And that's a shame, too, because that is one thing that he is usually pretty good at.
And I feel like if he can't do better than phony Kamala Harris, he is not putting up a fight for this campaign.
I don't think he really wants to be the president anymore, if that's the nickname he's coming up with for her.
Like, usually he's pretty good at tapping into the right-wing zeitgeist, you know, whatever, like, the identity, how they identify.
Like, it's a little bit of push and pull between him and, like, the Facebook uncle or grandpa or whatever.
I think they kind of, like, synthesize to kind of shape the party as it is or the talking points or whatever.
But he's usually pretty good at, like, identifying, you know, the character, the intrinsic characteristics of these people.
And if he were doing so with Kamala Harris, it would be like slutty Kamala Harris.
Or it would either be slutty Kamala Harris or Indian Kamala Harris.
Because those are the two memes about Kamala Harris right now.
One, that she's not black.
Or two, that she slept her way to her position.
Yeah.
And if he had any, like, of the 2015-2016 edge left in him, he would be calling her, like, Heels Up Harris.
Yeah, yeah.
I do think he probably had some bangers in there, but being as that it is a black woman and a really easy target to be awful towards, if you're someone like Donald Trump, they were probably all so bad that Heels Up didn't even come up because they were all so bad.
So, how do we feel about her as Vice President?
Does it make a difference?
Do we have any strong feelings about her fulfilling that role?
I have a lot of strong feelings about it.
I think that it's so bad watching people react to this.
Like, people in my feed who, you know, last week were like, ACAB.
Kill them all.
Like, revolution.
All cops are burnable.
Yeah, like this this week they're like, yay, more more black female fascists.
And it's really hard to deal with because then I'm saying things like, this is bad, y'all.
This is like a bad thing.
Because it's just setting us up for like eight more years of what we've already experienced for four years, but just without the red hat.
Yeah.
And like people are like, They just don't get it and it's been really really hard to like get like I got people in my DMs like just losing their minds saying like so you're telling me to vote for Trump and I'm like no you're totally missing everything like whatever.
Well, it's not only, like, eight years of Biden-Harris.
I mean, is Biden going to last that long, really?
Like, not even joking, is he going to be able to- Like, alive?
Like, be alive?
I think he has explicitly said that he will not run again if he wins.
Like, I'm pretty sure he's said he's going to be a one-term president, but I might be making that up because I don't listen to anything he says because I just get depressed.
So, like, I have not heard Joe Biden speak, like, Pretty much this whole election cycle, except I did some shows where we watched the debates live, and so I heard him at those.
But like, I just, I'm like, I know what I think about this already.
I don't need to hear what, I don't need to hear Joe weighing in on stuff, so.
Yeah.
But aside from that, so if he maybe hands off the presidency to Kamala in four years or something like that, she is now next in line, right?
Like, that's how the Democratic Party works.
I was gonna say for better or for worse, but it's almost always for worse, right?
Gore?
Yeah.
No.
Sure.
You know?
I don't like that.
I don't like that she's, you know, next in line for this shit.
Um, and like you said, Tony, I've just been seeing incredibly insufferable responses, uh, in my, in my, not really in my feed, but like in the Facebook group, they get shared into there.
What's, what's your feelings on, on this pick, Cath?
I mean, I'm not surprised by it at all.
I feel like I could have picked this ticket last year, and I feel like that really shows how demoralized and awful the Democrats are.
We're in such a different position as a society than we were a year ago, and they're still giving us the same people they would have given us last year or the year before.
They will not sort of respond to The Times in any way.
And I feel like, if anything, the way they're responding to The Times is, oh, Black Lives Matter is important.
Let's get a woman of color on the ticket, someone with some black ancestry.
Completely missing the point of what Black Lives Matter means and is and like structurally what they seek to do because she's a prosecutor.
So like it's very frustrating and it's also it's one of those things where it's like I just feel completely demoralized by this pic and also by people who seem excited about it but also not In a position to argue them out of feeling that way, because it's just like, well, what I'm learning from this, if you are excited about this, I can't appeal to your supposed professed desire to
Yeah.
diminish or end the police state because that desire was all a front like i don't think you really believe that if you're excited about kamala harris yeah so and that would be my main argument to somebody who's excited about this like here's why this is a problem is because this is just putting uh a a quote-unquote friendly face or like a familiar face on the same old police state and i think most of those people are fine with that i think
I think that's like they at the end of the day don't really care that much about the police state.
So it's a hard thing to kind of disabuse people of.
Well, it's incredibly ironic because, like Tony said, there's a movement going on right now, and you alluded to it too, Kath.
There's a movement going on right now that is all about the inherent injustice of the carceral system, of the justice system.
And yet, we have to suffer through people supposedly on the left talking about how Trump is going to prison.
Trump is going to be arrested and prosecuted as soon as he's out of the presidency.
Because we didn't know that the FBI wouldn't indict a sitting president.
We didn't know that when we spent months and months and months and months hinging our entire hope on that happening.
But now that we know that, as soon as he's out, and as soon as Joe Biden and Kamala, a prosecutor, take power, they are going to charge Donald Trump, arrest him, Try him in court, he will be found guilty, and then he will be doing hard time in prison.
We just talked about this on the Patreon episode this week.
People thinking that they're owning Donald Trump by saying that he's going to be in prison and breaking rocks or whatever.
And it's like, it's just the complete, I don't know, disgusting and demoralizing, depressing irony of Keeping the carceral state so that you can pretend that you're going to wield it against the most powerful person in the world.
Yeah.
Which is never going to happen.
It's just a completely sick joke.
We have hundreds of years of evidence that the carceral state does not work that way and cannot be used in that manner.
It's just not possible.
It's like QAnon for liberals to think that Donald Trump is going to one day go to prison.
Absolutely not.
And I mean, you know, evidence of this right here in the Biden-Harris 2020 group, which I am part of, which was originally Kamala Harris for president 2020, and then at which they changed it to blue no matter who 2020 when Kamala Harris got like 3% or whatever she fucking got in the primary, and now it's back to Biden-Harris.
They can synthesize that.
Herb P. Polhamus shares his own post into this group.
It is a meme, I guess, for lack of a better word.
The top half is Donald Trump's face looking slightly concerned, and then the bottom half is giant Helvetica font.
That says, if you elect Joe Biden, I will go to prison!
Yep.
And then in the bottom right corner, there is a crying laughing emoji, and then underneath that crying laughing emoji, in slightly smaller font, it says, satire.
Period.
Yeah, yep.
Period!
It's punctuated.
It's its own sentence.
So, uh, hey, if you elect Joe Biden, I will go to prison.
Just kidding.
Like nothing's going to happen.
Yeah, not really.
Not really.
This is satire.
Do you think it's like the same thing that we do when we're like, you know, you should like a blank cop, you know, satire, satire.
But they're just talking about... You should parody a cop.
But we're like, we should convict Donald Trump of crimes.
Parody, satire, just a joke.
Donald Trump's going to go to prison in Minecraft.
What I really like about this meme, too, though, is that one thing that the right does is they don't give a fuck what picture of Trump they use, which I think is really funny.
They'll use really bad pictures of Trump.
But this is actually not a bad picture of Trump.
It's one of the better ones.
Yeah, it's one of the better ones.
If you're trying to be against him, you had to look for a good one.
Well, the picture, it shows him, like, I don't know, looking, like, expressing human emotion.
Like, this is a very humanizing photo of him.
Like, he looks, like, sincerely, uh, emotionally engaged with whatever thought he's having.
And we're like, oh, that's, that's fear.
Yeah.
That's such a rare, like, Pick like that is a rare expression for him to have but he doesn't look he looks very vacant most of the time So it's like they picked one where he actually looks kind of focused and like not, you know Just like completely brain dead, which is I have I have a lot of tips for this meme maker Well, I mean, they're doing a lot of work here.
It's interesting, because the top right of the photo has like a watermark or like their brand, and the brand is, it's the top right, it's like a little tag, you know, like a little, like a shirt collar tag.
And the top right, it says, left is right.
And then there's an icon next to it with a thumbs up and an arrow pointing left.
And it's just like, yeah, man, that's a great message to give to your follower.
Left is right.
Perfect.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
You can talk about the footer right now, because that's incredible.
I've never seen such a thorough meme.
For a meme that is so lazy, For me, they're so lazy.
They're thorough.
They're doing the right thing.
The footer, in very small font, it's like, what do you call it?
The fine print.
I gotta go to that bit.ly.
It says, image credit, FB changes, cropped, resized, text added, original, at, HTTPS, and then it gives the bit.ly link.
This is so transparent that it has to be a CIA thing.
I think it's just dorks.
Who else would give image credit?
I think it's just dorks.
I think it's just dorks.
Who else would give image credit besides a fucking bed?
Like dorky libs?
I think it's just dorks.
I mean, the guy's name is fucking Herb.
Yeah.
And anyway, so he shared this into the Facebook group and got 900 likes on it and 123 shares.
If you go to the fucking original post on his page, it's got 900 shares.
Cool stuff.
Thank you.
Thank you, Herb.
Killing it.
Thanks, bud.
So this next post, it's like, it also went very viral, but it's less innocuous.
It's slightly more incredibly maddening.
I did notice, I do want to say before we get into this, I clicked on the link that you guys sent for this post and I noticed that my mom had liked this.
Nice!
I'm gonna have to have a chat with her.
I'm gonna have to send her this episode when we're done.
Damn, that's incredibly effective.
Like, that's pretty cool.
That's pretty neat.
This post is from a person called Shelly Starfire on Facebook, and their avatar just, I think it maybe informs the listener.
It might inform the listener.
The avatar, it's like graffiti on a wall, you know, but it's like live-laugh-love type graffiti that says, stubborn on vision, flexible on details.
So, maybe that, keep that in the back of your head.
Oh, I'm very stubborn on the vision I want for America and this country, but the details, those, you know, we can figure those out later.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I also want to point out that stubborn is spelled wrong in the avatar, and it has one B and then there's like a little caret and a B correcting the spelling.
Well, I mean, that's a detail.
That's true, that's a good point.
Less stubborn on those spelling details.
So the post goes, more on Kamala.
Sorry, I'm on one tonight.
God damn it, you are.
So prepare to get bucked.
She's gonna get bucked on this one.
It's a little bit too convenient for white folks to develop a capitalist, patriarchal, white supremacist society with capitalist, patriarchal, white supremacist systems and then ensure that the only way for oppressed people to be financially secure and attain any level of power or influence is through the maintenance of these systems.
Only to flip the script once an oppressed person nears the pinnacle of power and use their ability to learn and play the game against them.
Where are these white libs who are outraged about it like we are?
Who are they talking about?
Are they talking about us?
Because I don't see that response that much.
I mean, I do think that this is a little bit about Bernie Bros.
Like, I do think that that's part of it.
I think it's also probably about, like, more conservative people.
But this seems, this, it's so weird because it's like, I don't spend any time on the same part of the internet that this person does, so I have, like, no idea who specifically they are talking about.
Yeah.
This person is doing a comment that we had on this show six months ago.
I got into an argument, a discussion, a conversation with somebody who had posted about how Uh, they were only seeing negative things in their feed about Kamala Harris, but nobody was criticizing Beto O'Rourke, nobody was criticizing Pete Buttigieg, and it's like, from my perspective, being on left Twitter and, like, even, like, progressive Facebook,
People were coming much harder for Pete Buttigieg and Beto O'Rourke who were clearly way more phony than Kamala Harris was.
Kamala Harris kind of owned how shitty she was.
She kind of owned that top cop mentality.
All those videos of her talking about the awful things she's done where she's like laughing throughout them.
Yeah, she's about it.
You can't say she's not authentic.
This post was like, you know, all you white boys in my feed, you're talking about this stuff and you're talking about Kamala Harris or whatever.
And I was like, I don't know, like I've seen a lot of negative stuff about Beto O'Rourke or whatever.
And I was like, the fact is just that she had power.
She had the power to do the things that we as progressive and leftists are against.
And she did them.
She did, and like, that's that.
You can't erase that.
And then her argument was, do you know how hard it is to rise through the ranks as a black woman?
And she had to do those things in order to climb the ladder.
And so my response was like, oh, she had to be racist in order to appease racists.
How is that an argument?
And she was like, well, yeah, I mean, that's what happened.
It's really interesting, I saw somebody post, so like the day, I'm looking for it in my Twitter feed, like the day before Kamala was announced as the VP, there was an article that basically made the same argument.
That like, she had to do what she did in order to be taken seriously by the system that she was in.
The shittiest people that we don't want in power anyway.
Yeah.
Like I don't understand this argument at all.
Well, the thing that I the thing that I'm trying to find the post here because I thought it was a very insightful point was that liberals will use that they said the same thing about Hillary.
They said exactly the same thing and it's like they will use this systemic argument to excuse People sort of acting in service of this like fascist carceral state to say they didn't have another choice But they will never use that systemic argument to explain the actions of people on the right because if they did that they would have to acknowledge that like this Trump is not an individual bad actor.
This whole system is fucked up and yes like ruinous and it's not about like It really, like, it was so insightful, and I wish I could find it so I could attribute it, but I've been thinking about that since then.
And the thing that is, like, so frustrating about these kind of systemic arguments is, like, this person, Shelly Starfire, like, it's like she's almost there, because she recognizes that the only way for people like Kamala Harris to get where they are is to work in service of this horrible, oppressive state.
Is to become the oppressor.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
She's absolutely not wrong about that.
What she's wrong about is that she thinks that it's worth attempting.
She calls it, what does she call it in here?
She calls it aspiring for excellence.
And it's like, if you aspire for excellence, you have to do this stuff.
And it's like, you should want to throw this whole thing out.
You're almost to getting it, but you stop short and you're just using it against people who think this whole system is bullshit.
And it's very frustrating.
Absolutely.
And it also speaks to, they're not asking why do they want to get to that position, right?
Why does she want to get to that position?
To enact change?
Because the thing is, I was having a conversation earlier with, there's a couple city council seats that are opening up around me, and me and a couple more radical folks are having a discussion about, some of them are running, and they're like, how do we do this?
I'm like, well you gotta fake the funk a little bit to get elected.
You can't go on the campaign trail saying burn it down, abolish the police.
You gotta talk about what you wanna do, and then when you get there, then you can go ahead and lean into it.
And the thing is, that never happened with her.
She was like, I got there, and so what I did was, I was like, listen, we're gonna arrest you and your kids.
Now that I'm here, I'm going to arrest all the kids.
That speech is so crazy because she's bragging.
She's like, listen, when I got elected, I had some political capital to spend.
So you know what I did?
I spent it being right-wing as fuck.
Being awful.
Yeah.
That's the insane thing about these Democrats.
They're like, oh shit, I have a mandate.
They elected me in with like a sweeping majority, like they have to listen to what I say, so I'm going to push the voters, I'm gonna push the base to their limits of what's acceptable from the right.
Yeah.
Like that's the way the mandate works in their mind.
She literally says like, I terrorized them and it worked.
Like she doesn't say terrorized, but that's what she says.
She's like, and it worked.
I told them they're all going to go to prison and guess what?
They listened because they were terrified.
When she says that her friend, she's like, my friend was like, my wife saw the letter and sat the kid down and said, Kamala, they're going to throw us both in jail.
And she's laughing and pumped.
I'm like, that's your friend, bro.
Like what's wrong with you?
It's very funny this- Sorry, go ahead, Kath.
It's just, it's insane that people think like, oh, she got the VP nod in spite of this stuff.
Like, it completely tracks with what this Shelly Starfire person is saying of like, that's how you act to get nominated to be the vice president in the Democratic Party.
That's acting completely in the service of the state.
I found, by the way, that the person who made that point, their username is funnierhandle on Twitter.
And I just want to read really quick what they said, because I thought it was very insightful.
They said, liberals typically reserve systemic explanation to exonerate individuals willingly carrying out the functions of a rotten system only when they see themselves in the subject.
Quote, a decent person doing their best while participating in a corrupt system.
They do not extend a systemic explanation to their political rivals on the right.
Cheney and Rumsfeld were not viewed as the inevitable product of a system created to maintain American empire, because doing so, they might question their own role in empire.
So rather, they're just some bad dudes.
So I just think that's like, anytime somebody is doing this, I think probably the way to argue with them is to really push that like, so you believe that this is how you have to act in order to function within the system, right?
Therefore, why are we acting within the system?
It doesn't work.
Absolutely.
What are we doing here?
I love the tone of this post.
The tone of this post is so smarmy.
And it's like, it's like a weirdo bizarro version of the Matt Boers.
Oh, you live in a society yet you want to improve it somewhat.
How interesting.
It's that, but it's like, you know, oh, you live in a capitalist system, yet you're upset when there's a capitalist as the vice president?
How interesting.
Yeah.
Real convenient, white folks.
Yeah, it's just, it's so, it's smarmy, but it's like, they're just describing the system that we all hate.
And they're like, absolutely.
They're like, oh, looks like you don't like this system too much.
And it's like, yeah, we don't.
I don't know.
I don't know how this is a gotcha.
I think what it is is, like, they presume that everybody is as fixated on identity as they are.
And so they presume that, oh, there must be, like, leftists must be harder on Kamala than they are on other people because she's a woman of color.
Like, it's the same thing when they were saying that people who supported Bernie were a cult, when, like, everybody I know who voted for Bernie is, like, ready to fucking throw Bernie out the window.
Like, you have been useful to the movement, and now you are no longer useful because you are, like, completely compromised and telling us to vote for Joe Biden.
So, like, thank you for your help, but, like, we're not gonna listen to you, which is the opposite of a cult.
Or even more nuanced, it's like, you might have some use in the future if you want to attend some more strikes, if you want to walk some more picket lines, if you want to flex for workers' rights, cool, I'll get behind you on that.
But yeah, if you want to say that electing Joe Biden is the best thing we can do, no, fuck that.
That's what's so funny about this whole thing too, is that option has kind of been lost in this.
It's like, okay, either we let the Cheeto win or we gotta elect these people.
We have to back them.
And it's like, but you forget that we're out on the streets.
You know, we're out on the streets disrupting.
Not for them to say, okay, we see you guys, cool.
But to actually change things.
And that's the option people have forgotten about.
What sucks so bad and what I'm terrified of is that we have a lot of momentum going on right now, right?
This is one of the longest times in my lifetime where we've had consistent actions For a long time, right?
And what sucks is a lot of people who are showing up to these actions and are doing things, the second that Joe Biden wins, they're going to stop showing up.
And like that, that's terrifying.
And then we have to keep the momentum going up against like an entirely different, like an entirely different like, um, dynamic, dynamic and like enemy.
And it's like, that's, it's the same enemy.
They don't see that.
And so like, they've forgotten that option.
And it's like, well, our options are, yeah, either you go ahead and, you know, vote for Biden or, you know, you let the Cheeto win, or we continue to fight for an actual revolution, which is like, that's supposed to be the goal that That is a real thing that can happen and that's kind of been forgotten.
That point is like embedded or I mean not being aware of that point you just made Tony is embedded I think in two places in this first paragraph.
Which is, uh, you know, white, you white people created capitalism.
Uh, you know, you working class white people, you created capitalism.
Uh, and then, uh, ensure that the only way for oppressed people, which are only black people in this person's mind, by the way, ensure that the only way for oppressed people to be financially secure and attain any level of power or influence is through the maintenance of these systems.
No, no, no!
That's not the only way to attain power.
Right!
That's not the only way.
And that's just, that's like 100, I mean not 100 percent, but that's a giant difference between being a liberal and being a leftist is that the only way to attain power is to become a cop so you can beat up the right people.
The only way to attain power is to become a senator so you can get the correct grease into your palm as opposed to the bad grease into your palm.
Right.
One of the things that's happening here with this, too, and I've been seeing this and it's is that with this movement, with specifically Black Lives Matter, with specifically like, you know, abolish the police movement, there is this thing that's happening where there's a lot of like cachet in black identity, which I mean, I'm grateful for there is this thing that's happening where there's a lot of like cachet Cache in black identity, which I mean, I'm grateful for in this moment.
I finally have like a place to speak and like a platform, right?
But what's happening is people like this person are saying things and they're saying, and you gotta listen because I'm black, which is true.
But what they've forgot to do is to fact, there is no discussion of class consciousness.
and that is what's really like if if you were so every time i see these like you know um tiktoks or like instagram lives of of black people saying this is the time to like back this you know beautiful black woman they're like standing by they're like sitting by swimming pools
Like literally sitting by swimming pools or like driving a nice car or they have they've they don't have the the class consciousness that is necessary and I'm saying this in every facet of these things like there's a local group that I I don't work with at all for these exact reasons who every single time they like do something they get up there and they say things like hey cops like stop killing us we're gonna be doctors
We're all going to be doctors and we go to school and we're good citizens so please stop killing us and it's like that's like stop it it's like there's no class consciousness here and like that's a crucial element that is being lost in all these discussions.
Well, she's completely stuck in the same trap that she's trying to critique, which is that the systems in place, which are capitalist, patriarchal, and white supremacist, only uplift and listen to marginalized voices that uphold those systems.
And that's exactly what she's doing in this post, which is why People like my mom liked it, who's a, like, you know, upper-middle-class white woman.
And I do think that there are, like, well-meaning people who hear this and go, oh, okay, I have to listen to black voices.
But it's, yeah, it's completely in the trap of, like, which black voices are you hearing and which ones are, like, considered valid, and they're all the ones that don't Fundamentally undermine the system because they still believe in this myth that attaining individual power is the way out of this and it's clearly not.
It's trying to collectivize and work together and overthrow the systems that keep us all powerless.
That was one of the more disappointing things about like the Seattle actions because I mean all you know with these actions they're very spontaneous like yeah they're organized to a certain degree but it's usually not organizations who have the lead role in these things it's a bunch of like disparate groups or individuals who have like similar values coming together to you know organize or agitate or demonstrate against you know a corrupt system
But when that happens, you know, people have this interest in democracy, which is great and good, but when there's not like an organization through which that democracy can act, then you get people who literally like grab the megaphone and they're like, we're gonna start a policing app.
Yep.
And it's like, what?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Like, this dude who was in the news a lot when it came to the Chazz and Chop, that guy is posting on his Instagram about how he has apartments for Airbnb and that's how black people are gonna succeed.
That's how black people are gonna come up in the system.
And now he just posted something about Buying two Teslas so that he can have an all-electric Uber-type service.
And people in the comments were like, hell yeah, this is how black people come up.
And it's like, yeah man, I'm happy for that guy who owns the Teslas, but I'm more happy for the black community in general.
You know, that that guy owns the Teslas.
For sure.
That whole thing, too, where you said, you know, it's kind of a free-for-all, right?
That thing happens, and it's so hard to control, and it's so difficult.
So, you know, in some of the stuff I've organized, there's just one guy who shows up to everything, right?
And I like him.
His energy is really good.
Except for he does, like, just kind of say things.
Like, for instance, one of the last marches we had, Um, there's a, there's a moment where like everyone's fucking stoked.
We have the whole, we have the whole street locked down, right?
We're, we're everything and we're doing a little speech and everything's going great.
People are fired up and he's like, and I was like, you know, talking about momentum and how we got to keep this going and this is good.
And he yells out like, when's the next one?
And I'm like, Calm down, God.
I don't have that planned.
This same guy, a week later, is in a group chat with this dumb demonstration that they invited me to the group chat for, which I don't know why they did it, because I immediately was like, this is not for me.
It's the same guy with all the energy.
It's all like, yeah, I got a black cop friend that wants to come speak.
And I'm like, no.
So you're the same guy who's interrupting me.
People kind of putting me on the spot and making me feel like, oh shit, man, I don't know.
This one was kind of an emergency action, so I don't have a next date out there.
When's your next one?
When are you planning one?
Exactly.
It's like, no, you plan it, bro.
You plan it.
And then he's like, I got black cop friends.
I'm like, no, dude.
Not like that.
Like you said, it's a free for all.
And you just don't know what's like.
People just can, like you said, people can just do whatever.
And you got to hope, you guys hope the right people get behind the right people.
The other frustrating thing about this too is like this idea of like you know you have to work to be like personally successful within these systems and that will help everyone somehow is like it becomes a way to launder narcissism that would otherwise be critiqued and otherwise be like rightfully kind of mistrusted and I see this a lot in comedy because you know I work in comedy and like there's been a push to have like
Comedy and writers rooms and shows and everything be have more women have more people of color and that's all like awesome and great And I think those things should happen but like a lot of times there are people who it's like if you were a white man and
People would rightfully call you like a shark and not trust you because you are fully out for yourself and like you're completely careerist and just obsessed with getting ahead but because you're a woman or because you're a person of color you get to act like this is a victory for everybody that you are like that you have an agent and it's like It's great that you have an agent, but this isn't a win for everybody.
There's something wrong with having an agent.
It's like disease of individualism that permeates a capitalist society.
It's like, this is not a win for everybody.
It's not a win for every black woman that Kamala Harris got to be VP.
I mean, we'll get into that in this next post right here.
I think it's a pretty good segue, actually.
But I just wanted to highlight one comment.
We're only going to do the first paragraph on this post.
This post went on and fucking on about how hard it was for Kamala Harris to be a fucking prosecutor and how she had, oh, wow, so when a woman does her job correctly, she's called a bitch just because she locks up a few thousand, uh, you know, marijuana smokers.
She gets called a bitch.
Yeah.
Another very funny comment.
Somebody posted, sorry, I can't remember who posted it.
Somebody posted a couple comments in our Facebook group that were, the first one was like, God, I can't wait to see, it's a woman's name.
I can't wait to see Kamala Harris debate Mike Pence.
She's going to be fierce, articulate, on top of her shit.
The very next comment after that was, oh yeah, my wife works in an all-men's prison as a prison guard.
And it's like, I can't think of anything more liberal than a girl boss sticking it to the man, literally with a stick, you know?
In a prison.
Yeah.
And I, you know, hey, prison guards for Kamala.
Lesbian prison guards for Kamala.
Let's micro-target that group.
Yeah.
That's just such a funny, like, I've seen a lot of people saying that, like, oh, she's going to wipe the floor with him in the vice presidential debate.
And it's like, the only people who watch vice presidential debates are people who love people like Kamala Harris.
Like, you're not convincing anybody with the vice presidential debate.
Like, that is not appointment viewing for anyone.
Also, remember how effective debates are and winning debates are?
Remember how well that went for everybody?
Definitely how we choose our elected officials.
I personally think winning a debate is just as important as winning the presidency.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, if you think about it, Hillary won three different debates and Donald Trump only won one election.
Yeah, exactly.
That's true.
The numbers are on our side.
That's a good point.
This one comment from this long fucking post just five paragraphs of bullshit one comment that I saw just instantly I didn't even look through these comments this one was just like the last comment from a guy named Joe Carlin who says if you're not at the table you're on the menu and
Speaking of course about how you have to join the system, you have to work inside the system or else you'll be a victim of the system, basically.
And it's funny because you look at this dude's profile, he's a white guy, and he's got the frame that says, Biden-Harris Uniting America.
And I can't think of a more uniting message than, if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
And it's like, okay, Kamala Harris is at the table.
What am I?
I'm not at that table.
I guess I'm on the menu then, motherfucker.
How can somebody think that this is a defense of working within the system if they're literally like, well, it's kill or be killed.
Here we go.
How does that make anybody go like, man, you're right.
I should kill.
Well, it's this misunderstanding of like what politics is and it's this obsession with identity which identity politics obviously is important and it does play a role in this sort of things, but it only goes so far like This idea of identity politics is that Kamala Harris is representative of all black women So if she gets a seat at the table, then she is by virtue of her identity going to better society for all of black women and it's like
We know that that's not true.
Like, I mean, who's Condoleezza Rice?
Yeah, ask all the black women, she's locked up.
Like, it's, we know that this isn't true, and it's just, and it's, so they think, oh, well, you know, uh, Congress and politics is made up of a majority of white people, and that's why every single white person in this country is doing so well.
Like, it's a completely blinkered, blinded argument that just doesn't comport with reality.
And I don't know, I think it's just maybe an easier axis to think about these things, you know, unless you're a poor white person or, you know, a poor person of color.
Like, if you're doing all right, then I guess it's easier to think about things like this.
One more post from Kamala Harris being vice president before we Change topics.
Eric Sat shared a link into another pro-Kamala Facebook group.
The link is like announcing Kamala Harris's vice president.
The important thing is what he wrote.
Eric Sat wrote, I forgive Joe Biden.
I forgive him for being against busing.
I forgive him for being against affirmative action in the past.
I forgive him for his treatment of Anita Hill.
I forgive him for the unintended effects of his crime bill.
I forgive him for his support of the Hyde Amendment.
I forgive him for his comments about needing to teach blacks how to raise our kids.
Line break.
He has washed away his sins against our race.
Now, Joe is the first person to show his appreciation to the most loyal group to our Democratic Party.
Black women.
Thank you, Joe.
All is forgiven.
Thank you.
If I didn't go to Eric Satz's profile, I would have thought this was a joke.
Like, I would have thought that this was, like, he was doing irony.
Like, listing, like, eight different god-awful things that Joe Biden has done.
Like, I'm surprised.
I forgive you.
I forgive him for saying he didn't want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle.
Like, this post is insane, but once again, it had about 500 likes in this Facebook group.
It's interesting because even on this sort of identitarian metric that he's operating on he's still like he's a man you can't for if you're if you go by this liberal logic of like who is allowed to speak on what This post still fails because this man cannot forgive Joe Biden for supporting the Hyde Amendment or treating Anita Hill badly.
Even by his logic that does not make sense, this does not work.
So it's very strange to me that people were like, yes, absolutely.
Correct.
You signed off on this.
You're right.
I don't like to do this necessarily, but my biggest response to this is like, Hey, Eric, who the fuck is you?
Like, who the fuck is you?
Who cares that you've forgiven?
Like, if you've forgiven for these things, obviously, like, you've actually never been, like, directly affected by these things.
Like, luckily, you've managed to, like, do that, you know?
Or, like, you're... I mean, you're obviously an idiot.
Like, I'm so glad that, uh...
I'm so glad that, you know, we're not a monolith.
And that's the whole point, is like, dawg, like, I don't know, are you doing this, like, for your, like, white followers?
Like, hey, listen, you can say that you're black friends that it's cool.
Here's a post you can share.
It was weird because in the comments, like tons of white libs were like, uh, why are you listing all these complaints about Joe Biden?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
And his response was kind of real.
He was like, no, it's important to know what like this guy did.
Like his response was like, you know, it's important to know what this guy did, but I believe him when he said he was wrong.
So he, he like fundamentally believes he's being sincere in this post.
Yeah.
Which is like even more incredible because like you said, Cath, all this shit that Joe Biden did didn't just affect like the black community, didn't just affect the black women community, like his treatment of Anita Hill, like getting that dude on the Supreme Court, like what did that do for workers?
What did that do for people who need health care?
I don't fucking forgive Joe Biden for that.
I don't even know one thing Joe Biden's done that I'm like, that's cool, I like that.
I just don't.
It might be from ignorance, but I really don't know if there's a thing that he's done that I've benefited from.
Yeah, I don't even know what any of his proposed policies are.
What is he running on?
I just know he's walked back everything that I would want in a president.
I don't know if he has any affirmative things.
He has, I'm not Trump and I don't want Medicare for All.
They're all negatives.
It's like, strengthen Obamacare.
It's basically like, You know, put up a levee in front of the right wing water wall that's gonna fucking come crashing down the second the tides rise an inch.
Like, that's basically what his plan is.
His plan is literally, cops should shoot people in the legs instead of their backs.
That's what his fucking plan is.
And I, you know, it's, it's amazing to use this language.
He has washed away his sins against our race by picking Kamala Harris, a person who also has sinned against his race.
Like, you know, if I'm using that language has sinned against poor people, people in like marginalized positions in general, like this is that fetishization of the identity to somehow And it's one thing to like forgive Joe Biden for these things, right?
And we talked about this when we covered Michael Bloomberg in the primaries.
This is something that's very funny to me.
We talk about forgiving politicians.
Politicians who have, what's the word, they've adjusted on the issue or they've changed their mind.
Yeah, they've pivoted.
They've evolved on the issue, right?
We talk about this and it's like, cool, you have the right opinion now.
When you had power, you did the wrong thing.
You can change your mind and you can like atone, or not atone, but you can like give lip service to that or whatever.
Cool.
Maybe I forgive you.
I'm not personally, you know, I think that there should be some re-education or some service in order to, in order to quote, forgive somebody.
That's fine.
If I forgive you, that doesn't mean you get to be in power again.
Exactly why why is this your conversation?
Oh, I forgive you therefore you get to be the most powerful person again Again, hey you shot somebody in the face Okay, I forgive you.
Here's a loaded gun pointed at another person's face.
Go ahead and grab it Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like that's such a strange, like, I hate to say the words cancel culture on this podcast, but it's the same idea of like, if you, the only options are this person is completely restored to the authority that they have again, or we kill them.
Like those are, there's like, if you forgive someone, it means they get all of their privileges back.
Uh, and that's just, like, an incredibly strange framework.
But even outside of that, like, even if you- obviously there are, like, political- like, this is a very, uh, politically unsound post based on what we all believe, but even if you're, like, even if you're a liberal, uh, I- I- like, wh- who-
I'm just baffled by this like as a woman like I would never deign just to say that anyone is forgiven on behalf of all women so like the idea that this guy as who I'm presuming based on his language and this is is a black man is like ready to say like we all forgive him is regardless of your politics so strange.
Yep 100%.
I just don't understand it.
And I don't understand why other people would be like, yes, love this.
Like, you know how when you go to therapy and your therapist is like, you need closure from that, like he was abusive, he was emotionally manipulative, but you need to like talk to him, you know, or at least like acknowledge like everything, you know, and maybe you can forgive him.
And once you forgive him, that means you should take him back and be in a relationship with him again.
Yeah, absolutely.
Exactly, yeah.
That that's the only hallmark of forgiveness is to go back completely to square one.
It's so absurd.
That's what forgiveness means, is to give that person the control and power again.
And by this logic, though, I mean, if Trump really needed to, he could totally just really snag this whole thing up by replacing Pence with Candace Owens.
And then there's no hope for the Democrats.
Just none.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay, let's move on to the second topic of the night.
And this is once again from David Harold Grisham, who we just talked about on the Patreon episode for being just one of the more vile pieces of shit I follow on Facebook.
But he's just very interesting.
I love to pick his brain.
Like, he doesn't know... I don't know if he knows that I'm a leftist, but I follow him and I interact and I kind of ask him questions, you know.
Like, he posted recently the swastika flag, the Nazi flag, next to the LGBTQ flag, and he said that both flags are responsible for millions of deaths and economic hardship, yadda yadda, like psycho shit, right?
But he's a Christian.
He's a street preacher.
He's this like fundamentalist Christian.
And so I asked him, I said, well, how do you feel about the American flag?
Like, honest question.
How do you feel about the American flag or American nationalism in general?
Because the framing of this post was like people are killing for these ideologies and people are Are subjugating other people for these ideologies.
I was like, I want to see how consistent this guy is.
And he was like, well, America does have its faults, but it was founded on the principles of Christianity.
So therefore it's much better.
It's all good.
Yeah.
He was like, America has its faults, which are, which are growing more and more every day.
So it's like, yeah, you know, you know what this guy is basically.
So he put, I've had this in the tank for a while.
This is a post from July that I just thought was fascinating.
He shared a link from worldnetdaily.com, wnd.com.
It's almost like Weapons of News Destruction when you think about it.
The headline is, Major U.S.
City Votes on Letting Women Go Topless in City Parks.
And this is Minneapolis, okay?
And his caption reads, So, we're going to shame people for not wearing masks and encourage them to go without shirts and bras?
Is it any wonder why our nation is coming under the judgment of God?
Saints, we should loudly rebuke and publicly shame any woman doing this.
Tell them to stop acting like perverts around kids and tell them they need to get saved.
I mean, they got a point though.
This is like a public safety issue and like nipples are glands.
You know, and like you can get COVID through a nipple.
That's true.
I'm pretty positive, which is why I'm going to start selling tiny little masks.
Little titty masks.
Little bitty masks just to go over little nipples.
It's extremely hypocritical because not only can you get COVID from the breasts, you can also get an even more deadly disease, the disease of sin.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
It emanates directly from the breast.
Radiates out from the breast.
I used to live in Austin where you're allowed, it's historically like titties are allowed, like you're allowed to go around topless and I don't know, I guess it's a den of sin.
I hadn't really thought about it.
I feel like it doesn't really affect your day-to-day life that much except sometimes you see boobs and you're like, alright, my day's like a little improved.
The one time I went to Austin, I tried to have a good time, but I was just inundated with titties and I just could not get anything done.
And it was awful.
It was awful.
Everywhere I went, just boobies everywhere.
I just wanted to get some food and there were just boobies.
And it sucked.
That's the real problem here is if titties are out, productivity is low.
And that's why titties are anti-capitalist.
So I'm not going to read this article.
The article basically states that, you know, Minneapolis is changing its language for the city parks.
So the whole city of Minneapolis allows toplessness.
Right but just the city parks had like signage that said no no women are allowed to be topless okay and all the this this uh this ordinance or this ruling or this decision all it did was remove the signage from those parks So this is like very clickbaity for these people, right?
It's like the entire city was already topless.
Like everybody in this city is already topless.
And it was just in the parks, you know, you had to throw some titty masks on.
But now they've changed that, okay?
The comments are where it's at, right?
Stathanasius, a very weird name, 1952, says, let me get this straight, people in a city with a significant Somali Muslim population want to be able to walk around topless in the parks?
Well, that should work out well, especially now that they don't want the cops anymore.
Send out the psychologists to stop the rapes and murders.
So, uh... What?
Being topless in the park now is like... You're gonna get murdered.
For sure.
Yeah I like that they sort of split the difference on their racism here like they went both that Somali Muslims are going to be conservative and rage murder you and also they're gonna rape you like it's both it's like both sides of it like just really really getting a 360 you know racism from all sides.
It's funny that so they they're hyper aware of how quote Muslim Minneapolis is, right?
They're very hyper aware and yet they are reading a piece of news that is talking about how toplessness is legal in this city.
Yeah, if you're a conservative who thinks that Minneapolis is a no-go zone because of all the Muslims doing honor killings all the time, taking full control of like, you know, the state or the city government, how do you square this in your head?
Like, how do these two thoughts exist side by side?
Yeah, absolutely.
I gotta also think when they say that Minneapolis is a city with significant Somali Muslim population, they just mean they know who Ilhan Omar is, right?
That's their only person, their only evidence they're going on.
Which is funny because her district isn't even majorities Somali Muslim.
It's just a meme.
So Brian Matthews says about the city, they are never, I think about maybe liberals in general, Ryan Matthews says they are never satisfied with the current level of evil.
They always want more.
Soon, God will give them more than they can handle.
What a bummer life, like when you see boobs and you're like, evil!
That is evil!
And then Brian Bumfett.
The current level of evil.
My evil readings are off the charts.
I just like that phrasing.
You're just like scanning some woman's boobs.
Exactly, yeah.
It's like the terror threat level or something.
It's issued every day.
The evil level.
Hey buddy, you see those boobs over there?
My evil threat level's at midnight.
What about yours?
This is a reply to that comment.
As in Sodom and Gomorrah their sin has become their curse.
Real estate companies will be very busy with decent people fleeing from these perverse cities.
You are correct!
God will soon deliver them over to full-blown mindless insanity with no escape.
The rebellion against earthly authority is ultimately rebellion against God's authority over mankind.
The end-time rebellion Jesus spoke of has begun.
I love that he's like, he's like, this is gonna cause like a ripple domino effect.
This is like a butterfly flapping his wings across, you know, across the world and and real estate agents will feel it.
There's going to be like, there's going to be like, it's not white flight, it's just like non-evil flight.
It's just wholesome people are just going to be evacuating the city around the parks because they can't get anything done because of all the evil.
I love that you're like quoting, you're quoting Jesus in this comment.
This comment is like very, you know, high and mighty, fire and brimstone, fully Christian comment.
You're quoting Jesus And you are more aghast at the idea of breasts than you are at the idea of real estate companies.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know, I think anybody except a psychopathic capitalist can acknowledge that breasts are less evil than real estate companies.
Like, we used to make whole movies in the 80s about how bad real estate developers were.
Yeah.
And those were, I mean, actually those were often boob comedies.
So maybe it's like, that's just the dynamic there.
I don't know.
Sorry.
Go ahead, Gath.
No, just it's like on every single level and even I feel like you can find like, like textual support in the Bible that real estate developers are more evil than boobs.
Like I'm pretty sure there is scripture about this.
Like maybe it doesn't use exactly the words real estate developers, but like it's in there.
You could definitely take that tack.
And there are for sure, like, psalms about how cool boobs are.
Absolutely!
There's no doubt.
There's entire verses about, like, there's a whole verse about tits out and that's cool.
I mean, like, even Jesus' bosom was a great thing.
Like, do like a F keyword search in the Bible for the word bosom versus the word real estate.
You're gonna find one much more than the other in a positive light.
One is like a universal source of comfort and you know like sustenance like they're definitely not sinful and also like if your version of sin is boobs and you're trying to outrun that sin by moving you're gonna have trouble.
Like where are you gonna go?
Yeah.
Like do me a favor and find me a crucifix where like Jesus's tits aren't out.
He's a great pro.
He's a great pro boobie.
Well, that was the ultimate sin is they stripped, they like tore his shirt off of him before they hung him up there, you know?
Yeah.
They were trying to get him to go to hell that way.
One last sin before death.
I'm Sweet Ol' Bob says, I think it's a good idea.
That is, as long as all women keep their hair covered with a head bag so they don't inflame the carnal desires of all the penis-driven Muslims.
The women could all wear short head bags that still concealed the Muslim men's sexually maddening, long, flowing hair and still let their boobs hang out.
But they gotta keep that hair covered up.
Boy!
Parentheses.
Snort!
I think this person's hilarious.
I like this.
I think this is a good comment.
I think this is hilarious.
I think this is funny.
It is.
It's, I mean, obviously it is, like, awful and racist, but it is very funny to call a Nekuaba headbag.
Like, headbag is very funny.
I think that's a great, like, logline for this podcast.
Well, it is, of course, like, horrible and racist, but it's also very funny.
It's very funny.
Headbag.
I love it.
Well, what I think is funny about this, and you guys didn't spend time in this comment section that I know of, but almost, you know, there's a lot of stuff that we can't just put in the show because it's not funny.
It's just too fucking vile and violent and not fun to talk about.
Lots of talk of rape in this comment section.
Let's just say that, okay?
And it's extremely funny for I'm Sweet Ol' Bob to pretend like Muslim men are somehow more violent or driven to sexual assault than his fellow commenters in this comment section who were jumping to the idea of mass rape because women go topless in the park.
Yes.
It's a little funny to me, Bob.
Sweet ol' Bob.
In your next comment in this Google Doc, I feel like it is very apparent as well.
There are some serious sexual issues that these commenters are working out in very extreme ways at the expense of women who just want to let their titties out because it gets hot.
Concerned trolling about rape was the number one comment.
The second comment was, well, it sounds like a good idea, but you know, it's not going to be any of the ones you want to actually see.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
It's like second comment proves the first comment.
Like you're all the same freaks.
It's all you.
It's not Muslim men.
It's none of you should be afforded the privilege of looking at titties.
No, it's almost like you share a very common ideology with fundamentalist religious freaks.
Like, it's almost like you guys are more, you know, you're not too different, you and I, kind of a thing going on here.
You'd probably get along very well, I think, actually.
Yeah.
The only real argument I have against this, like, against people being elitopolis and, like, it being known, is, like, the All the men that are going to walk up to good looking people and be like, you know you can have your tits out, right?
You know you can do that, right?
It's cool.
You can just do it.
It's fine.
You can just let it all hang out.
I will say also, as a person who lived in a city where this was allowed, I spent a lot of time at Barton Springs, which is a big public natural swimming hole in the middle of town.
That place fucking rules.
It's awesome.
It's so great.
I miss it.
I used to go every weekend in the summer when I lived there.
But that's ground zero for people having their boobs out, because it's a swimming hole.
And it was almost all great boobs.
I mean, there are certainly people without amazing movie star titties out there, too.
But it's all types.
It gets hot.
People want to take their tops off.
And I feel like if you want to see good boobies, then don't be a freak about it.
And then people will show you their boobs, probably.
I just feel like that's universally good advice.
I think so.
Yeah, just chill out a little bit, everybody.
You might get to see some boos.
Yeah, and just be cool about it.
I just want to say, you know, I just think that needs to be said, and I'll be the one that's brave enough to say it.
You know, all boobs are great.
You know?
I agree.
It's true.
Thank you.
All boobs.
You know what?
All chests are great.
You know, let's run it.
You know, I'm going to be the brave one to say it out loud.
You guys can follow me if you'd like, but I'm going to say it out loud.
Free all chests.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I co-sign that bravery.
I feel like, Tony, you've done a service to everyone else who's brave.
You saying that, you get to be the representation for everybody else who's brave.
You know, it's like a win for all of us brave people.
On that note, I also forgive everybody in this comment section who is coming out against it.
I mean, we're gonna go ahead and, you know, I forgive them all for their transgressions.
I rescind my identification with Tony.
Tony no longer represents me as a brave person.
No, too late, too late.
I'm already the representative of the monolith.
It's me.
Yeah, I just want to know if you forgive Joe Biden on behalf of all brave people.
Uh, you know, if Joe Biden takes his top off, then yes.
If Joe Biden does one debate with no top on, then absolutely, he's forgiven.
And I will give him my full endorsement.
That's on record.
That's on record.
I mean...
Be careful because I feel like there's a non-zero chance they will get into a push-up contest.
I think that is not outside the realm of possibility.
So, be careful.
Last comment thread here.
Mark Lang says, and no doubt, it'll be a crime for white men to look in their direction.
No doubt.
No doubt in my mind.
No doubt.
As it should be.
As it should be.
Just like, yeah, oh, oh, because I was, because I'm white, that's why, that's why you're arresting me.
And it's like, it's like, no, it's because you were blocking her exit from the park, uh, staring directly at her chest.
Because you kept on taking pictures.
Yeah.
This is clearly someone who has some very racially suspect Pornhub searches, like no question, reading this comment.
I'm just like, you're working some stuff out about the sexual role of white men in your brain.
Yeah, we'll be probably arrested, like, handcuffed to a chair with a hole in the center of the seat.
God knows what they'll put through that hole.
And you know, just to continue on my wave of being brave, I just want to, you know, let anybody know if they...
If they're having a hard time with these things, you know, their racial, sexual frustrations or tensions, and they need to explore that, and they maybe need some sort of like assistance, I will, as a friend, I will gladly, I will gladly cuck you.
Like, no problem.
I'm here for you.
Because that's what we got to do.
We got to work together.
You know, that's, I'm willing to put the work in.
We gotta find common ground.
Call Tony Zach De La Rocha because it's gonna be Bulls on Parade.
LP replies to Mark Lang.
I doubt that any man could have a serious conversation with a woman under these circumstances.
So it's like all that conversation these women were looking for when they took their tops off.
It's gonna go out the window now.
They're, you know, they're meeting with their accountants in the park with their titties out.
It's all going out the window.
That's one thing topless women definitely want, is they want you to come up and strike a conversation with them.
And it's like self-defeating.
How are we supposed to do that as men when you got your bazongas out?
A serious conversation, no less.
That's what they're all looking for.
Yeah, like, I'm imagining LP.
This isn't EL-P, okay, folks.
This is LP, like as in Linkin Park.
So, you know, I imagine him, like, defiantly going up to an attractive, topless woman and, like, staring her straight in the eye while he talks about, like, a regressive tax bracket.
Giving her his plan for a flat tax to prove how much he doesn't care about her curvaceous body.
I will not be influenced.
And then Don't Woke Me, finally, last reply in this thread says, I was, this is so insane, I was an accident witness once and the female driver got her kid out of the car, sat down in the grass and took off her shirt and started breastfeeding.
I managed to make her horn stop honking, there's a little Freudian Ideology in there, I think.
Yeah, what?
I managed to make her horn stop honking and then she acts like I'm trying to see her breasts.
You're welcome.
Didn't want to see them anyway, but don't know how not to see them when they are openly displayed.
What?
I'm just trying to get these horns to stop honking.
I have so many questions about this.
She's squeezing her boobies in my direction.
Milk's going everywhere.
What the heck is going on?
Like, does this person work for AAA?
I don't understand this.
What?
What?
I don't understand.
I don't get it.
Why were they in this situation at all?
I wonder why this man spent so much time trying to help this woman who had her breasts out and then she got mad at him for it.
I just love the end, like, but I don't know how not to see them.
I mean, you have them out.
I feel like it's a very undermining, like, it kind of calls into question your credibility as a quote-unquote accident witness.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I think that maybe he's got some sort of like rudimentary theory of uh sight some sort of like rudimentary theory about you know like a metaphysical theory about light and sight and the way things
Operate on the eye, you know, we used to think like light actually emanated from the eye and that's how we perceived objects Maybe he thinks it like just boobs and when they're around they emanate from the eye And it's like they're just they're a product of of the function of sight How am I supposed to not see them?
It's like a Mona Lisa Go on.
It's like the Mona Lisa, like her eyes follow you around the room and that's what boobs do.
Like you can't not see them.
Absolutely.
The only boobs he's ever seen were the boobs in Dumb and Dumber when she takes your top off and it's the headlights.
That's it.
I also just love this whole idea where it's like Because the whole thing is all these men are just mad they're getting horny, you know?
And this whole idea of just like, ma'am, please stop nourishing your child.
I don't want to be horny over here.
I'm not trying to be horny over here and you're over here turning me on by feeding your kid.
What's wrong with you?
Yeah.
Don't you have any shame?
I'm trying to get under this hood, not that hood over there.
All right.
Yeah.
Like, it's so funny.
Like, the symbolism here is pretty overwhelming.
Being a witness, making that horn stop honking.
I love it.
Yeah, there's a lot.
I think this guy might have dreamed this.
It's a very fraught situation.
Sorry, go ahead.
What'd you say, Kath?
I think this guy might have dreamed this, I think.
It does sound like a dream.
It sounds like a very surrealistic experience.
I think maybe he was witnessing some surrealistic pillows, if we're gonna be honest here.
It's a joke for anybody who listens to Jefferson Airplane.
And that's the show, folks.
Thank you so much for listening.
Kath, tell us about your podcast and where we can find him.
Yeah, I have two podcasts.
One of them comes out every week.
It's called What a Time to be Alive.
It's a podcast where we count down the top five things each week that make you say the thing that's the title of the podcast.
It's very fun.
It's very not political.
A lot of animals getting loose places where they shouldn't be, stuff like that.
It's wonderful.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Thank you!
Comes out every Monday.
We have a Patreon for that as well.
We do weekly bonus episodes.
And then my other podcast is called Lie, Cheat, and Steal.
It's a true crime podcast about liars, frauds, thieves, and bullshitters.
That we do one free episode a month and two Patreon-only bonus episodes a month.
Our most recent bonus episode is about the scandals of Ulysses S. Grant's presidency.
His entire cabinet was scamming him the entire time he was in office.
And he just kept getting owned and like every single time the press would call him and he'd be like, wait, what?
Oh, come on.
So it was very funny.
And then our most recent free episode, which we're recording tomorrow for August, is going to be about Sciencing Underscore Bi, which was a fake Twitter account that a white woman made pretending to be a Native American scientist who then fake died of COVID.
So check that out.
Lie, cheat, and steal.
I heard about that in passing.
I saw tweets about it.
I'm very excited to learn what the fuck was actually going on.
So thank you for doing that episode.
I hope we'll be doing everyone a service, because it was something that I think a lot of people saw and were like, this is too much to get into.
And it is.
So hopefully we can give everybody a rundown.
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much for doing the episode.
Very fun.
Very fun, Kath.
Yeah, so much fun.
Thank you for having me.
Of course.
So we do Patreon episodes every week as well.
For $3 a month, you get a bonus episode every week.
Patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash MinionDeathCult.
These last couple episodes have been pretty fucking good, if I do say so myself.
The most recent one we released was about a public school teacher who was having to resume classes, you know, over Zoom, basically, and expressed some concerns over Twitter that, you know, as an English teacher they're talking about cultural subjects and
Having to address more controversial, you know, possibly bigoted opinions in the class might not go over so well with the conservative parents who are able to listen in on their child's Zoom calls.
And this teacher was worried that perhaps conservative parents might overreact when it comes to discussions about race or sexuality.
So, of course, conservative parents then threaten to shoot and kill the school teacher.
Yes.
Awesome.
Great.
And then before that, we had Heaven Ramirez of the Heads Will Roll podcast on the Patreon episode before that, which was, the first half of that was about a, quote, students for life protest in front of a Planned Parenthood trying to get some of that Black Lives Matter steez by chalking pre-born Black Lives Matter.
In front of the Planned Parenthood and just getting arrested immediately while frantically scribbling in chalk.
Very funny.
They went on Tucker Carlson, who had a just a very beautiful segment.
Like, I can't express how fucking funny just that 45 seconds of the Tucker Carlson video was.
And then also on that episode, we talked about the coronavirus pandemic.
It's affect on landlords.
God, we're all so worried about how they are being affected by this pandemic.
The moratorium on evictions.
Gosh, it's got to be hitting them pretty hard.
And boy, are they not happy.
Boy, do they have some opinions about every single person who rents, period.
So listen to that episode and also Heaven Ramirez, her podcast Heads Will Roll, check that one out.
She's doing a mini-series, a socialist feminist look at the films of Quentin Tarantino.
And as I understand it, she is a fan of Quentin Tarantino, so it is going to be, you know, a A comprehensive look at, you know, the roles of women in Quentin Tarantino films.
And I'm very excited about that.
Give that a listen.
Heads will roll.
And support us if you want to support the show.
Patreon.com slash MinionDeathCult.
And I believe that's it.
Right, Tony?
I think so.
I think so.
Thanks so much for listening, folks.
Bye.
Thanks, y'all.
Peace.
Thanks, everybody.
Every day I try so hard to know your mind And find out what's inside you
Time goes on and I don't know Just where you are or how I'm going to find you You can do it Whatever you please.
The world's waiting to be seen.
You can collect all the neglect Or all the self-respect you need And I know, and I know, and I know Your mind's guaranteed It's all you'll ever need So what do you want with me?
We live but once the things can be found around In spite of all the sorrow
If you see black you can't look back, you can't look right, you cannot face tomorrow.
