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(Unlocked) Bloomberg is too rich to be president? George Washington had $650 Million.

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	I'm Alexander Edward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	The world is ending, divisive Democratic primary voters are responsible, and we're documenting it.
	When you think about it, like, voting in a primary is one of the most divisive things you can possibly do.
	Absolutely.
	Like, you are ensuring that Somebody is going to get a vote and somebody else won't.
	Several other people won't, in fact, because you chose to vote.
	Yeah, in voting for somebody, you're actually denying somebody else of their votes.
	Yeah, I think we should just do away with the whole thing.
	I think so.
	So today we are talking electoral politics, which is not something we like to do on this show or just really in general, but rest assured we will be discussing the more fun and infuriating parts of this primary season.
	Namely, the Democratic primary and the public reaction to two specific Democratic people running for the Democratic nomination.
	Democratic candidates, that's the word.
	See, I hate talking about electoral politics so much that I can't even think of the word candidate.
	It makes you sick.
	Makes me freaking sick.
	Let's get right into it.
	Thanks for supporting the show, by the way.
	Appreciate y'all.
	So, Mike Bloomberg is officially in the race.
	He's officially spent, like, over $200 million, apparently to some effect, because he's polling it, like, 15% nationally or something like that?
	Yeah, it's pretty upsetting.
	It's genuinely upsetting.
	I'm hoping this fear is irrational, but I am somewhat irrationally afraid of Mike Bloomberg's candidacy.
	Absolutely.
	I wouldn't have thought twice about it.
	I would have considered him just an utter joke, like a clown, you know.
	Except for the fact that, like I said, he's now polling so well.
	And I just see, anecdotally, in my braindead Democrat Blue No Matter Who groups, that people genuinely like him.
	And it's not just the people being paid, you know, to say how, like, fucking...
	I don't know affable he is because he's willing to like make fun of himself on the fuck Jerry meme page or whatever but people just in you know old people in comments and their their rationale for voting for Bloomberg and there's several rationales that we'll get into.
	But yeah, despite Bernie's continued success, despite him getting, uh, you know, the majority of, a plurality of votes in Iowa, uh, and winning New Hampshire, uh, I'm a little bit worried.
	I'm a little bit worried about Bloomberg's candidacy.
	Yeah, there's something about his, like, Being some sort of weird mirror of the Trumpster?
	Because I think there are people that see him and they're like, no, the problem with Trump is not that he's an old white millionaire man, it's that he's an old white millionaire man Republican.
	We need an old white billionaire Democrat.
	And that's the problem.
	We need someone who's an actual billionaire, not just one on paper, who knows how to run a business.
	That's what we need.
	We need a Democrat one this time.
	Let's give that a shot.
	And luckily, I know an old white billionaire who recently became a Democrat.
	His name's Mike Bloomberg.
	Convenient.
	Yeah.
	Where to start with this?
	So we were going to talk about Bloomberg, like, in the main episode.
	I think we were going to talk about him on the Patreon last week, because I started seeing these, like, pro-Bloomberg cringe posts in Democratic groups, and I was like, this stuff is fucking funny.
	Like, it's funny as shit.
	We got to talk about it.
	And then that old audio surfaced.
	The old audio of Mike Bloomberg justifying stop-and-frisk long after the ACLU successfully sued it out of existence for being literal fucking human rights violations.
	For being a campaign of racist terrorism against the black and brown people of New York City.
	This was in... There's no defending him.
	When you hear old Bloomberg audio services, you're thinking, oh man, he said some shit in the 80s.
	But no, he said it in 2015.
	As he'll tell you again and again in his apology, it was five years ago.
	That was five years ago.
	Yeah, and the audio is stunning.
	I'm sure most people have heard it.
	It's just somewhat inaudible if you're not looking at the dub, if you're not looking at the captions.
	So it's kind of pointless to play it over over the podcast, but he says 95% of your murders and murderers and murder victims fit one M.O.
	Which is not the phrase he He wanted to use there.
	M.O.
	doesn't mean your skin color.
	No, no.
	M.O.
	means like your method of killing.
	My method of killing is being black or brown.
	Is my existence.
	My skin has become a killing color.
	like like a racist character caricature of uh paul muad dib from dune oh my skin has become a killing color um mike bloomberg says 95 of your murderers and murder victims fit one mo you You can just take the description.
	So he's saying they fit one profile.
	That's what he's saying.
	Physical profile.
	Xerox it and pass it out to all the cops.
	They are male minorities.
	15 to 25.
	That's true in New York.
	That's true in virtually every city.
	And that's where the real crime is.
	You've got to get the guns out of the hands of the people that are getting killed.
	He went on to say, yes, black people are disproportionately arrested for marijuana possession, but that's good.
	That's a good thing because we get to throw them up against a wall and check them for a gun.
	Yes, it's insane.
	And like, this is, like you said, it's so written off.
	It's so, like, these people are not catching about, like, there's no story.
	The headline should be, you know, Mike Bloomberg, blatant racist.
	Mike Bloomberg regurgitates alt-right 4chan talking points.
	Yes, exactly.
	95% of crime is committed by minorities?
	Are you fucking kidding me?
	Well yeah and like what's it's not it wasn't as bad but like I was saying in the last fucking debate when Buttigieg was asked about his uptick the uptick of black arrest during his mayorship he was like no it's not that we're arresting more black people it's that we're arresting more gang members who are black people.
	And no one batted an eye.
	And that's the soft version of what this Bloomberg quote is.
	It's wild.
	Like you said, it is the most textbook definition of racism.
	It is assigning a characteristic to a person or some sort of thing to a person because of their race.
	Period.
	Point blank.
	That is racism.
	It's just getting written off.
	They're like, oh no, he's just doing his job.
	Yeah, and it gets fucking worse because later on in a different... Okay, this was on the Democracy Now!
	article.
	In another interview, he says...
	One second here, sorry.
	They just keep saying, oh, it's a disproportionate percentage of a particular ethnic group being arrested.
	That may be, but it's not a disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims describe as committing the murder.
	In that case, incidentally, I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little.
	You couldn't make up something more racist than this?
	That's wild.
	Not only is this racism, but we need to do it more.
	Not only is this not racism, but we need to do more of this not racism more.
	We need to secure a future for our white children being stopped less by police.
	Yes.
	Holy shit, man.
	Maybe I was giving liberals too much credit.
	I mean, I guess I was.
	I haven't really had a high opinion of them, but holy fucking shit.
	Yeah, this is definitely something fucking wild.
	Like you said, it is exactly 4chan white supremacist talking points.
	This is in a leaflet somewhere.
	This is in a leaflet that says, you know, protect your neighborhood and it has like a hooded character on it and it's telling you this exact... and it probably even says those words and then it says quote from Mike Bloomberg.
	Mike Bloomberg is gonna like, I don't know, pay people who make zines to just reprint pages from Siege with Mike Bloomberg 2020 on the cover.
	Limited numbers though, you know?
	Super collectible shits.
	- The thing about, so people are saying, yeah, we don't, he wasn't perfect or whatever, but anybody is better but anybody is better than Trump or he is better than Trump.
	Even if he's not perfect, he's better than Trump.
	Okay, so... Mike Bloomberg did essentially the Muslim ban, but for black people.
	For black people and brown people.
	In America that are already here.
	Yeah, like the only reason Trump is more racist is because Trump had more power to enact his racism.
	Like, this is coming from libs who will tell you all day about how racist white people are, how racist Trump voters are, how the South is irredeemable because it's full of a bunch of hicks who say the n-word or whatever.
	I'm sorry, maybe, you know, maybe it's not my place to say this, But some fucking poor white person saying the n-word is nowhere near as racist as Mike Bloomberg actively telling his entire police force to target black and brown people and fucking wreck them.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, it's so... and it's just sad how transparent it is.
	He's a great example, though, of these conversations we have when people do ask me, like, you know, oh, blue no matter who, right?
	And I'm like, I don't know, man, because I'd much rather have four more years of Trump than I would have eight more years of Mike Bloomberg.
	Eight years of Mike Bloomberg.
	You know, I don't want that.
	And that's the bottom line.
	You know, to keep, and that's not even going with the other reasons why I would prefer to just, you know, not no matter who.
	And this is beside the idea of him purchasing the nomination, which is exactly what he's doing.
	That is exactly what he's doing.
	He's also said insanely classist shit.
	He's also said insanely sexist shit.
	He has like 64 counts of sexual harassment or workplace harassment against him from former female employees or co-workers.
	I don't know if you can possibly be a co-worker with Bloomberg, but you know what I mean.
	That's only like one a year.
	That's only one a year.
	That's not that bad.
	So you're saying he started working when he was like 12.
	I'm saying he got his first sexual assault allegation when he was 12.
	Harassment.
	Harassment.
	There's probably some assault sprinkled in there.
	Yeah, for sure.
	This is a dollop of assault.
	The problems with Bloomberg are immeasurable.
	Every problem that Trump had, Bloomberg has that problem.
	Yeah.
	A lot of things that we hate about Trump He got the ideas from watching Bloomberg.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I mean, Trump has always been an awful bigot, but he probably loved him some stop and frisk.
	We know he loved him some stop and frisk.
	We know that.
	Well, he initially said he wanted to do a nationwide stop and frisk.
	Yeah.
	And liberals rightfully reacted negatively to that.
	But I'm sorry, you can't just apologize for something like stop and frisk.
	No, especially when he's like, oh it was five years later.
	Yeah.
	Five years means that if you wouldn't have ran 2016-01, you'd be president right now.
	It's different to say I had these views and I evolved on them over the course of 10 years or whatever.
	I can believe that.
	I can say, oh I believe you've changed in your heart or whatever.
	If you had power, If you had governance of a city and this is what you chose to do with that power, you have demonstrated your evil.
	You demonstrated how fucking evil you are.
	You told us how- you didn't just tell us, you did it.
	You did the practical, structural, uh... What do you call it?
	The, uh, the, um...
	Like the racism that's ingrained in society.
	You implemented institutional racism.
	Institutional racism.
	You did, as one person, as one guy, you fucking did institutional racism, dude.
	You don't get another chance.
	Wanna take a bet?
	Sorry, you could be sorry for that shit, but you just don't get to run for office anymore.
	You don't get to be president, you don't get to be mayor, you don't get to be fucking governor.
	Sorry, dude.
	Watch my man make this player move right there.
	Watch this.
	Guarantee you.
	Guarantee you.
	In the next month and a half, you will hear Bloomberg endorse reparations and volunteer a personal... He's like, I'm going to give $750 million to the black community.
	He's like, I know what I did was wrong.
	I did the math and guess what?
	I only stop and frisk 750 million black people.
	So that's a dollar per person I stop and frisk and I will give that back to the community.
	He's gonna be giving a freedom dividend to dudes that are still locked up because of him.
	And watch, there's gonna be that and there's gonna be a fucking Yang vice presidency.
	Yeah, boy.
	He's like, I got my man to run the numbers.
	I got my man to run the numbers.
	I'm like so mad about Bloomberg, dude.
	I've been just like steaming about it for the last like five days.
	I just tweeted this out.
	If Bloomberg buys the Democratic nomination, I will gladly and gleefully help destroy the Democratic Party.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	100%.
	I am already not a fan.
	I am already begrudgingly participating in this Democratic primary.
	If they do this shit, I will fucking, with a smile on my face, burn it down.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Quite literally, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I wholeheartedly agree.
	Let me read this thing from NPR.
	Sorry, I should have read it a while ago, but it's amazing.
	So this is like a transcript of an NPR interview or whatever.
	I don't know who these people are, maybe I should say that.
	NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to NPR's Mara Liazon and Michael Nutter.
	National political chair of Mike Bloomberg's presidential campaign.
	Oh, okay, so he's like actually, uh, whatever.
	So Inskeep is the NPR guy, Liaison is an NPR girl, Mara, I'm guessing, and Michael is... Michael Nutterson?
	Michael Nutter is the Bloomberg guy.
	Let me just read this right here.
	They just played the clip.
	Innskeep says, that's hard to hear that, Mayor Nutter.
	So I'm going to... Nutter says, yeah, Innskeep, repeat a couple key phrases.
	Okay, Nutter says, I mean, as you said, it's slightly inaudible.
	So this is the Bloomberg guy.
	But nevertheless, if you walk through the pieces of what the mayor said, it is an unfortunate truth and reality that in many cities, and certainly would be the case in Philadelphia, the vast majority of perpetrators and victims, unfortunately, are often black or Latino males, usually between the ages of six.
	So it went from 95% to the vast majority.
	I wonder what that actual statistic is.
	And now if you're looking at a city like Philadelphia, what's the fucking demographic makeup of Philadelphia?
	Oh yeah, it's always, when you tell people that the black population in these cities is like lower than 10%, they're like, what the fuck?
	And yeah, I think it's like less than 10%.
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	In Philadelphia?
	Yeah.
	I'm always shocked when I find out the actual truth of the black demographics of big cities.
	Well, now I need to look this up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's 42% black, dude.
	Oh, good.
	I guess it's just California overall is like 4%.
	But that's a big thing.
	No, the point is that it's not 95% of the crimes being committed are being committed by black people.
	Probably a majority of the crimes that people get arrested for are committed by black people, which isn't that disproportionate a statistic when 40% of the population is already black.
	Yeah.
	And then also law enforcement is racist as fuck.
	So that's going to add some percentage points on top of that for the arrests.
	Okay.
	Inskeep says, so this is the NPR guy, you're saying that what is true is that people of color live in neighborhoods that have higher crime rates.
	And we could talk about all the social reasons that might be.
	Yeah, maybe because the mayor directs them to.
	Yeah, says that's your job.
	That might be why.
	more crime or go looking for more crime in those particular neighborhoods.
	Yeah.
	Maybe because of the mayor directs them to, yeah.
	That might be why.
	Yeah.
	Um, yeah.
	So they just go to like, he just hand waves away the fucking 95% statistic.
	Uh, so, and is like, oh, well, you know, Mayor Bloomberg, uh, what he said sounded racist, but actually it's because of racism that Mike Bloomberg was so racist.
	Um, and yeah, I just, I can't wait until like Mike Bloomberg starts running ads with FBI statistics in them to prove that he's not racist.
	Yeah.
	You know, the totally reliable FBI statistics that are completely transparent and don't illustrate any type of racism happening.
	Did you know that 13% of the popul- And that's something that liberals would buy because they love the FBI now.
	Oh, wow, really?
	The FBI is racist too?
	Hmm, maybe there's a reason for that.
	Yeah.
	I'm waiting for Bloomberg to get in a debate to be like, listen, white people get killed by cops too.
	No one talks about all the Irish deaths by cop.
	And I told them not to kill white people specifically, and they still did it.
	So obviously there's an anti-white bias in cops.
	I was very specific about white people.
	Don't kill them.
	uh rachel stefani beige beige dash 40 posts into blue 2020 which uh used to be a kamala harris group but when she dropped out uh they changed it to blue 2020 now that's solidarity rachel says anyone out there starting to really consider bloomberg i I feel weird for doing so, but I am!
	Bloomberg slash Harris?
	Question mark?
	Question mark?
	Uh, and this has not 292 like or love reacts.
	Um, and then Facebook is doing this thing where it's hiding, uh, the, it's only showing the, the like icon for the top two types of react.
	I think it's trying to, like, be more positive.
	Be a more positive space or whatever.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Yeah, sure.
	So I had to click on the 292 to show, like, the 12 laugh reacts or whatever.
	But yeah, I'm sure this is like a totally genuine post.
	This person is just now starting to consider Bloomberg.
	They're probably not being paid $150 by the Bloomberg campaign to post this.
	David Benz says, I like Kamala Harris, but Dems will win California.
	We need a candidate that will appeal to voters in the Midwest and or South.
	How about Bloomberg-Klobuchar or Bloomberg-Castro?
	What was funny is when you told me, I was very confused when I was first reading these comments because of all the Kamala talk, but then that clarified it for me, the whole how this was once a Kamala page.
	Now it makes sense, but before I was like, why are these people still about Kamala?
	That's so weird.
	We need someone to relate to the South, you know, like Bloomberg.
	That's what's so funny, is like, oh, well Democrats will win California and New York no matter what, so who can we partner up with?
	Bloomberg, the most elitist coastal elite liberal possible.
	He even has a little New York accent.
	Like, we've, you know, he used to be a Republican.
	People don't know.
	Bloomberg was a Republican governor of New York.
	But he's a fucking lib.
	He's a liberal.
	Republicans can be liberals too.
	He's just, he's like a weird socially conservative Republican.
	Like, he's like, he's like, uh, for higher taxes on the poor Republican.
	Yeah.
	He's only a Democrat because, like, him and, like, Jay-Z are friends now.
	Jay-Z was like, how about you stop the stop and frisk?
	And then, like, Bloomberg kind of did it, and so now they're friends, and now he's a Democrat.
	I really don't know why he's a Democrat.
	Like, he probably just likes gay people.
	Like, that's it.
	Yeah, that's it, yeah.
	And, you know, and the Yankees, and they have black people on there.
	But yeah, I love this.
	How about Bloomberg-Klobuchar?
	Yeah, man.
	People in the South are going to love a Bloomberg-Klobuchar ticket.
	Yeah, it's money right there.
	Or Bloomberg-Castro.
	And just overall, this comment is just like one of my most detested types of comment coming from liberals.
	Just like, hmm, I'm putting on my pundit cap here.
	I'm putting on my political analyst cap here.
	People from the South are going to want to see a Southern politician for vice president.
	So I think that Bloomberg should appoint Julian Castro as his vice president, and that will motivate the Browns, that will motivate the Southerners, and they'll come out and vote for him in droves.
	You know, you know how the South loves Mexicans.
	It's just like... the most... like, nerd shit without being smart.
	Like, you're a dumb nerd.
	You're not even a smart nerd when you say shit like this.
	Yeah, yeah exactly.
	You're like, you swear you're being clever and you're just not.
	You're just, you're doing nothing.
	And you're standing for nothing.
	You're saying this is the best chance of winning.
	It's not about, these are who I want.
	They don't even want these people.
	They just think this is moneyball.
	You're playing like, yeah, you're playing moneyball, like you're playing 3D chess on the level of like Don Lemon.
	Yeah, but it's really like you're playing like a fantasy football game with, you know, but it's, It's politics.
	James Burns says, "Late entry billionaire splits the Democrats.
	Sounds too much like a plot to ensure that billionaires stay in a position of minimal tax responsibility." Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Liked that comment.
	Jody Roker replies to James, "James, look deeper into both Steyer and Bloomberg to see if they love humanity and have a compassionate heart." And James replies to Jody, uh, I appreciate the push, Jody.
	I'll do that.
	I'll do that.
	What happened, James?
	What happened?
	What?
	Was that easy?
	Why was that so easy, bud?
	You had it.
	You had it there for a minute.
	You fucking nailed it.
	Bloomberg did a little bit of math and was like, okay, if I invest this much, I will save this much over the next decade.
	If I can win with this much of an investment, it will be totally worthwhile.
	He's literally only losing interest on the money that he already has right now.
	He has so much money that it makes the amount of money that he's already spent on the campaign in the amount of time he spent it on the campaign.
	Yeah.
	He's staying flat.
	He's just not making money.
	It's just an opportunity cost for him to run for president.
	And he doesn't even want to win.
	He just does not want Bernie to win.
	Yeah.
	Like, that should be very clear, and people don't seem to be picking up on that.
	But a bunch of, like, a bunch of these people are fucking insane and don't want Bernie to win either.
	So they're like, yeah, totally, like, sure, we've called Bernie a racist for saying that, like, working class people need something to vote for, but the guy who actually said, hey, I'm a racist, but, like, that's what you gotta do when you're in charge.
	You gotta make the tough racist decisions, like I did.
	It's hard.
	It's hard.
	Like, I respect that.
	I admire that.
	Yeah, just look deeper into both Steyr and Bloomberg.
	Like, just look into their eyes and see if they love life.
	See if they love humanity.
	Does their heart pour forth on behalf of humankind?
	And James is like, oh, you know what?
	I think it does.
	Okay, I'm voting for them.
	And like, what are they hypothetically pointing to?
	What example do they possibly have for Bloomberg?
	Mom's Demand Action, dude.
	That's what it is.
	It's the fucking gun shit, man.
	Yeah, I got into it with somebody who was like, oh yeah, well, Bloomberg was a racist and, like, racially arrested thousands of black men.
	Well, Bernie didn't vote for one gun bill back in, like, 1995 or whatever.
	Yep, I've heard that a lot.
	It's like, alright, uh, who do you- what do you think had the most impact?
	Uh, a background check bill that had a bunch of other stuff in it that, uh, wouldn't have passed anyway, or the guy who physically told cops to go, like, throw black kids up against the wall.
	Exactly.
	Oh man, and I don't know what they would cite.
	They'd be like, well, there, you know, um, there were no, uh, like, Like, notable school shootings in New York, but it's like, no, they just weren't on the news because they were different.
	Like, I'm skeptical of how many of those shootings background checks would prevent anyway.
	Like, background checks are a good idea, but I'm not convinced that by not voting for that specific bill, Bernie had any responsibility for any deaths, you know?
	Yeah.
	Colleen Nicholas says Bloomberg knows Trump very well from New York.
	It would be an even playing field.
	Except Bloomberg has integrity, honesty, compassion, and is highly educated in government.
	Bloomberg graduated from the school of hard government.
	Hard gov?
	He is the only one that can stand up to Trump and give it back to him even harder.
	Just dog shit.
	Dog shit for brains.
	It's wild how much of his platform is like, hey guys, I also hate Donald Trump and I can beat him.
	Hey guys, I'm a catty bitch just like Donald Trump.
	Exactly.
	He's like, he doesn't want, Trump doesn't want the smoke.
	He don't want the smoke.
	He didn't tell you how he's going to do it or what their differences are.
	He doesn't even make fun of Trump as much.
	He just says he doesn't like him.
	It's bringing nothing to the table.
	He's ready.
	He's fiery.
	I deliberately go out of my way to not hear.
	Not that I have to go out of my way.
	I just don't click on anything with him giving a stump speech or a rally or whatever.
	Bloomberg.
	But yeah, I heard him say something like, you need a guy who's gonna go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump, and that guy is me.
	And you're like, wow, you fucking sound like alpha as shit, dude.
	I can't wait for you to go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump.
	You fucking nerd.
	I did also hear one of his jokes.
	He said, oh, well, Donald Trump calling me mini-Mike?
	Well, where I'm from, we measure height from the neck up.
	Saying he's got a big head?
	He's got a tall brain.
	He's saying he's smart because he's got that tall brain.
	Hey, listen, if your brain's not over 2.5, swipe left.
	My man's got a conehead. - Swinging some Dan Aykroyd forehead.
	I mean, as a, as a, uh, oh man what the fuck is that stupid word?
	Sapiosexual?
	Uh-huh.
	Uh, Conehedge really does it for me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Conehedge gets me real, gets me real horned on.
	Just fuckin' lay in pipe, uh, in your brain.
	That's so fucking- We measure height from the neck up.
	Who fucking thinks- Like, how is that a joke?
	Like, you don't say, I got a tall brain.
	My brain is really long.
	No, that's so stupid.
	He would be the shortest president ever elected, I think.
	Yeah.
	So Joy Reid said something.
	She made a couple points about why people are persuaded by Bloomberg or why Democrats are open to the idea of Bloomberg as a candidate.
	She said that a lot of people are just tired, that a lot of people are just exhausted, and they want somebody who will win.
	Somebody they don't have to think about, somebody they don't have to rally for, somebody they don't have to canvas for, or work for, or whatever.
	Somebody who will just win.
	And for whatever reason they think that that's Bloomberg.
	Because of his money, I guess.
	It's just, he has enough money.
	Never mind his, like, fucking reprehensible personality and just his insanely troubling history.
	And just, it's not even things he's said.
	It's not even things that he's, like, done in his personal life.
	It's actual policies.
	It's not even ideas, it's actions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, but I mean, I heard he's gonna actually do, like, um, um, like, drone canvassing?
	Just like send drones door-to-door and like that's good.
	I don't have to do shit that way.
	Yeah.
	No, that's cool.
	He has some AI for auto texting.
	But her point about people being tired and wanting like a sure bet or wanting somebody who could just do it and not have to worry about it.
	That's like, it's a real point.
	Yeah.
	That I see in these groups that like people are so fucking dejected and depressed about Trump or whatever.
	That they think throwing their lot behind Bloomberg is the smart choice.
	And I tweeted out the comment, I didn't put it in the doc today, but it was some old woman who was like, what we want doesn't matter.
	The candidate we want doesn't matter.
	The only thing that matters is beating Trump, so we have to elect the person that will beat Trump even if we don't want them.
	And I was like, it crushed me.
	Because that person's not even being snarky.
	That person's not even being anti-Bernie.
	That person isn't like whitewashing Bloomberg's history.
	That person is saying like, we can't have anything good.
	Yeah, we have to just stop this bad.
	They think it's going to be a huge difference.
	It's not even about making a big difference, it's about ending having Orange Man.
	And it was like a comment about Russia too.
	It was like, whoever Putin dislikes, and that's Michael Bloomberg.
	That's what it was, yeah.
	And it's like, like I said, it's unforgivable what MSNBC has done to our grandparents' generation.
	Yeah, it's pretty fucked.
	Absolutely unforgivable.
	Just scared the shit out of them to the point where, oh because Hillary couldn't beat Trump, that means Trump is like somehow an insurmountable force and we need to rally behind a near equally powerful and evil force just to beat him.
	It's like, I don't know what they're looking at.
	I mean, he was the mayor of New York, the place that is like notorious for being really difficult to live in.
	Like, if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere.
	It's hard.
	It's like grinding.
	You've got to grind.
	You're working multiple, just like everywhere in America, but especially in a place like New York, where living expenses are outrageous.
	They're like, no, this is cool.
	He's going to make it better for all of America.
	But the thing that like kind of gave me hope about this Joy Reid strain of thought like like I was seeing it in in the comment section before I even saw Joy Reid's comment about it but she's saying like people are just tired people are exhausted or whatever and I want to say like the left isn't The left is not exhausted.
	The left is as energized as we have ever been.
	Ever.
	Yeah, it's invigorated.
	Part of it is because we actually have a theory of change and a theory of power and we are organizing outside of the machines that are completely invested in making us feel powerless as individuals.
	The Democratic Party is 100% invested in keeping you feeling helpless so that you will just elect Bloomberg to fix your problems or whatever.
	The left has a theory of power that is outside of that and it gives us hope and it gives us strength and it gives us a goal to move toward and it gives us something like practical to focus on.
	The left isn't exhausted, at least mentally, because we haven't been just, like, pulling our hair out at every Trump tweet for the last four years.
	Yeah.
	We haven't been, like, screaming into the ether because Trump, like, was mean to our favorite TV show host.
	That's why these people are exhausted, is because that's what their politics are.
	And yes, you are fucking, like, beating your head against a wall if you think you're gonna change anything that way by retweeting some resister, or by, like, how dare you suring him on Twitter.
	Like, that's why you're exhausted, that's why you feel helpless, because of course those things don't matter.
	Yeah, their issue with the Donald Trump presidency is that, like, orange men tweet too much.
	Not, like, the actual things that are happening.
	And if these people don't get out of the fucking way and let the people who are actually, like, doing the work, who actually have prescriptions for these problems, If they don't get the fuck out of the way and allow us to do this or join in and help us, it's gonna be bad.
	Absolutely, and it needs to be.
	They're gonna wish away their own efficacy, they're gonna wish away their own agency, elect Michael Bloomberg, and it's gonna fucking suck.
	Because he's not gonna win.
	No.
	I've been saying this a million times and I don't think I'm alone here when I do say I really think that the only candidate who genuinely, the way that people feel about Bloomberg, I think that not only is he my guy, but I think the only one that can win is Bernie Sanders.
	I think he's the only one that can win, like straight up.
	If he doesn't win, then Trump's going to win.
	If he's in the primary, then Trump is probably going to win the whole thing.
	I'm still of the mind that almost any Democrat can win.
	I said that back six months ago or something.
	I still feel that way.
	I still feel like almost any Democrat could come out against Trump and would beat him.
	And that's not necessarily a good thing.
	I don't think that that's necessarily a healthy place for the country to be in.
	But I think Pete could beat him.
	I think Amy could beat him.
	I think maybe Elizabeth Warren could beat him.
	I know Bernie could beat him.
	I don't think Bloomberg would beat him.
	And Bloomberg is the only one of these candidates that I will say wholeheartedly, heartily, that I will not fucking vote for Bloomberg.
	And I will help destroy the Democratic Party if he gets the nomination.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, I mean, for sure.
	I mean, there's just... He is the worst.
	Yeah.
	He is the worst.
	He's like... I mean, he's...
	And what fucking Marvel movie is the New York City Mayor like an actual good guy?
	They're always like a little devious, right?
	They're always like a little bad?
	Like in all the movies, they're always bad.
	Like come on, that's not a thing.
	And the mayor from Godzilla 2000 was, possibly the worst of all, Mayor Ebert, who was a parody of the movie critic Roger Ebert, who's one of history's greatest villains.
	Easily.
	If you ask me.
	Somebody did, like, word art, you know, on Facebook, where you do the background and all that of, like, smiling, laughing faces, and it says, Bloomberg is too rich to be president.
	George Washington had 650 million.
	What?
	And if you count all his slaves, he was even more rich than that.
	I wonder what $65 million is like with inflation today.
	$650 million.
	George Washington era.
	What is the inflation on that?
	It's probably pretty gnarly.
	I would assume.
	I would hope.
	You make a good point.
	George Washington was also a piece of shit.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, we know that.
	Uh, I'm scrolling down, there's this tweet that was amazing.
	Bryce Tatch said, uh, people ask me if Warren ends up not being our nominee, who I'll support.
	My answer is anyone, but I'll say any, this fucking, you pathetic piece of shit.
	My answer is anyone.
	I'll support literally anyone.
	I'll, I'll, I'll have any beliefs you tell me to.
	Yeah, I'll do it.
	I'm down.
	But I'll say this.
	I'm watching Bloomberg.
	I've got my eyes on Bloomberg.
	Yes, I'm a progressive and he's a moderate.
	But I see a clear path for him to beat Trump.
	And nothing is more important.
	People, and then he replies to himself, people ask me about Bernie.
	Yes, his vision and ideas more closely mirror my own.
	But Bloomberg has a better shot in swing states, especially if he chooses a female and or person of color as VP.
	By the way, even this mild criticism may attract trolls, and that should concern us all.
	What are you talking about?
	What did I say to this?
	I said shut the fuck up you goddamn moron.
	Which I normally don't do on Twitter.
	Though.
	But yeah, just a fucking pudding brain.
	Oh my god.
	How could you possibly think Mike Bloomberg, the guy who wanted to tax poor people for sugary sodas, tell them what they can eat or drink Is the poster child for wanting to steal your guns... How do you think this effete liberal New York City guy is going to do better in swing states?
	What the fuck is wrong with you?
	I heard he might get a Dan Balzerian endorsement.
	I feel like that's next.
	I mean, that guy's a Trump voter, 100%, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying he's also a Twitter influencer.
	Oh, I got you.
	Dan Bilzerian's not gonna fucking do that shit for $150, dude.
	He's not some Instagram meme page.
	It's gonna take more than that.
	It's gonna take 150 million dollars.
	I mean, then yeah, he might, he would probably do it.
	Um... No, I just, I don't understand what, why people think this.
	I, it, I cannot wrap my mind around why people think that Bloomberg would be more appealing to Rep, to Republican, because he used to be a Republican.
	Okay, that doesn't matter.
	Republicans are about the culture war, baby.
	That's why Republicans vote.
	He is on the wrong side of the culture war for Republicans and on the wrong side of the culture war for Democrats too.
	He's on the wrong side of fucking everything, man.
	It is funny because he is like a total, in a lot of ways that we hate him for, you think Republicans would like him for, but he's not quite there for them either.
	No, he's, he's the weakest candidate.
	He's like the weakest person to run for both parties.
	Yeah.
	And then also, yeah, by the way, even this mild criticism may attract trolls and that should concern us.
	It's not a mild criticism to just go on Twitter and say, hey, I'm really fucking stupid.
	I have hundreds of thousands of followers and literally the stupidest ideas.
	That's not a mild criticism.
	That's people telling you, for the good of the Earth, for the good of their future generations, to shut the fuck up.
	To delete your fucking account, man.
	Go live in the fucking woods, dude.
	Unplug bro, it's good for you.
	Okay, so, that's Bloomberg.
	Fuck, fuck everybody.
	I'm so mad.
	Um, yeah, okay, so, let's move on.
	So Sanders, hey Sanders won New Hampshire, alright?
	Hey!
	Sanders won New Hampshire, uh, not by as much as we perhaps would have liked.
	Uh, but Sanders fuckin' won New Hampshire, and in these Democratic groups I'm in, uh, you're not allowed to, uh, celebrate.
	You're not allowed to say, I like Bernie Sanders, because that's divisive.
	I'm not, I'm not exaggerating.
	You are not allowed to say you like Bernie Sanders in these groups.
	Uh, because that's divisive.
	Well, I mean, the, the, the Democrats really need to, like, embrace the whole, Fast and the Furious mentality that it doesn't matter if it's by an inch or a mile, a win's a win.
	You do get to gloat.
	Richard Patron didn't quite gloat, but he celebrated a little bit by posting a Time article in this same blue 2020 group.
	A Time article, the headline of which reads, After New Hampshire, Bernie Sanders is the Democrats' 2020 frontrunner.
	So I saw this post and I did like the Vince McMahon meme in real life.
	I did the escalating excitement Vince McMahon meme in real life because I saw A pro Bernie post in blue 2020, and it's like the first panel where he's getting a little interested, you know?
	And then I saw that it had 124 reacts, about like 50 of which were negative, and I got a little more excited.
	I went, oh yeah.
	Then I saw 212 comments, and that's when I'm like leaning back in my chair, and then I saw, uh, an admin has turned off commenting for this post.
	And I vibrated through the fourth panel.
	Yes.
	Beautiful, beautiful stuff.
	And it's like, I like seeing an admin has turned off comments for this post.
	One, because that's a brave thing to do.
	You didn't just delete the post.
	Okay?
	Keeping it up for posterity.
	You left it up there.
	It's a brave thing to allow your post onto Minion Death Cult.
	I appreciate that.
	I respect it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	But it is kind of sad when you get to the thread after the comments have been turned off.
	You kind of want to, like, help have the comments turned off, you know?
	You want to be part of that.
	I like being part of that process.
	But no, very excited.
	Very excited about this.
	The comments are just so, so deranged.
	People just fucking hate Bernie Sanders incredibly.
	I actively despise him.
	And if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, I hope he does, how broken are the brains of specific people going to be, it's a very weird way to phrase that idea, when Bernie Sanders beats the candidate that Hillary Clinton lost to?
	How many people's brains are going to snap in half?
	It's going to be weird because I feel like we're going to see a coalition of recount demands, not even just from Trump support, but from old hill stands.
	I feel like we're going to see people on our feed being like, I don't know.
	They're going to start saying we need to recall the popular vote.
	We need to get rid of the popular vote.
	Do an even harder electoral college.
	It's time now.
	We can't trust people anymore.
	We can't trust them to their own devices.
	Sheila Dougherty says about Bernie Sanders.
	His ride is over dot dot dot two out of reality states before period space space space now it will start in the real dot world period he will letter b letter e done period Yeah, so, uh, go ahead.
	Remember when we, like, didn't we learn from from Hill Dog, like, not to just ignore states?
	Like, these states are not in the real world.
	These are not reality states.
	These people don't count.
	Yeah.
	We gotta give them that credit, you know?
	It's pretty incredible for, like, Democrats to say that the Iowa caucus, the competition that has been, like, a decisive factor in every Democratic party since it's been the first, you know, first election of the primary season, suddenly say, oh, it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, it's a big deal that we freak out over, but now it's like, oh, but you didn't like the way it went, so it doesn't really count.
	Like, this is not accurate.
	And they're not even saying like, you know, Pete Fudge the numbers.
	They're saying like, oh no, this isn't right because the guy we don't like is doing well.
	And it's funny because a lot of people will say, oh, Iowa's so white.
	Iowa so white, New Hampshire so white.
	Let's get a real state in there with some color in there, which I don't think is a bad idea.
	I wish there were a more representative state as the first, you know, competitions in the Democratic primary.
	But when you look at the breakdown of Iowa, say, guess who won 38% of non-white voters?
	Yeah.
	Just take a guess.
	The one and only Bernie Sanders.
	Take a guess.
	The one and only.
	Out of the 9% of non-white voters in Iowa, Sanders won a fucking plurality. 38%.
	It's such a weird way to think about it, too.
	If those are the candidates who can't even convince white people that they're good, then they're really screwed.
	Let's be real.
	White people are an important demographic.
	You've got to get some of them on board.
	Sanders won exactly the same amount of white people as Pete Buttigieg.
	Won 23% just like Pete did.
	Just like Pete.
	Yeah, but Pete only won 12% of non-white voters.
	Which is impressive for Pete.
	I'm actually kind of proud of him.
	Still too many.
	They were arguing about Sanders electability.
	I had to cut off this person's name because the stuff that was worth reading in this screenshot takes up the whole iPhone screen.
	The name on the first commenter got cut off, but I think she's an Amy supporter.
	I can tell there's a green ring around the bottom of her profile pic, which means she's clobberin' with Klobuchar.
	She's part of the clobberin' crew?
	He's, quote, electable, so, Sanders, is, quote, electable by motivated primary voters in small areas.
	Unelectable in the general.
	This is not a hard concept.
	Great guy, but his followers can be cult-like, unfortunately.
	And I love this tactic.
	Oh, I have no problem with Bernie Sanders.
	It's his followers that are cult-like.
	That's the problem.
	It's really weird where I've been.
	So I thought this was like only like the internet acting this way.
	And then like at, um, you know, I did that pop of my brother's show at the Chamber of Ciphers.
	And, um, it's like, you know, guys probably like Black dude in his maybe like late 20s had some stickers on the table and he's like aren't these like people kind of like culty and weird?
	Bernie's people?
	Yeah and unfortunately it was like a whole table of Bernie people and we were all like no not us!
	None of us are weird.
	Just in unison the same exact phrase.
	Yeah it was like so and we all we all kind of like realized okay maybe we should like ease into this like But yeah, it was really weird.
	It is a very prominent thing.
	Well, it's a good tactic.
	I didn't realize how big it was.
	I don't know if he was doing this, but it's a good tactic from the opposition.
	Because it immediately discredits how popular he is.
	Yeah.
	Because you're just spinning his popularity, which is one of his greatest strengths, at least electorally, That is his greatest strength, electorally.
	It's his popularity.
	I mean, that's prima facie true.
	But you're spinning it as a negative, and some people are spinning it as his greatest negative.
	They always Trump-like because his fans like him so much.
	It's so weird, because in no other venue would you be like, I don't know, his supporters are very passionate.
	Would you say that anywhere else?
	Well, you would say that about music, but it doesn't mean you're not going to listen to the album.
	Yeah.
	Like, Mars Volta fans were some of the most, like, obnoxious people, but it doesn't stop me from liking the music or whatever, you know?
	Yeah.
	Might get in trouble for saying that?
	I don't know.
	Probably because those fans are so obnoxious.
	Yeah, you'll get a little, you'll get a DM, you'll get a DM or two.
	No, but what I'm saying is, once again, I'm criticizing the fans.
	I'm being a coward by criticizing the fans and not the band.
	But not only does it spin your greatest asset as a negative, It also, like, prevents any defense.
	It prevents you from defending.
	Because once you, like you said, once you go to defend that yourself from that accusation, it's like, oh, me thinks thus doth Bernie bro protest too much.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, whatever, man.
	Like, yeah, I'm in a fucking cult because I want health care, dude.
	I'm in a fucking cult because I want to, like, tax the rich.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, once again, if you have to get back to it this year, you know, he's got the best merch.
	It's alright.
	I like the bootleg stuff.
	I bought a bootleg Bernie shirt.
	Oh no, I like the bootleg stuff, but I'm saying he's got the best merch out of all of them.
	Yeah.
	Like the picture of him being carried by the cops when he's protesting, that's like on a shirt in the Bernie shops.
	Like, that's cool.
	Elizabeth Warren is like looking at that shirt, she's like, damn, who came up with that idea?
	That's such a good logo.
	He must have some, like, tight people working for him to come up with that graphic.
	Joe Biden's telling people that's him in the picture?
	That's me in the picture, but what those cops were doing is they were holding me back from corn pop, because I was about to teach that young rascal a lesson.
	Um, yeah.
	But yeah, you can't- Oh, you guys are a cult.
	No, we're not.
	We like him for his policies.
	Like, these are the list of policies.
	Wow, you're fucking weird, man.
	You just listed off, like, ten policies you like.
	That seems pretty cult-ish.
	What is, like, your, uh... What is, like, your elevator pitch?
	Me?
	For Sanders?
	It's hard because I have my reason that I like him, and it has mostly to do... I mean, I have several reasons, obviously, but my most prominent reason is class consciousness.
	It has to do with class consciousness.
	And it's a pitch, it's like a meta pitch.
	You can't make that pitch to somebody who doesn't have class consciousness.
	Like, he is raising the level of class consciousness in this country, and maybe you can include that as part of your conversation as to why you think, like, class consciousness is important, or whatever, and you can dovetail that in, but that's a whole other... I would just say my...
	If I was trying to convince a Democrat I would say a he's got a giant following he knows that he can't like Unilaterally get his own platform through that all of us need to do that and that's something that he's like Repeated time and time again like his slogan is literally not me us and it sounds like a corny platitude but he means what he means is an actual like
	It's going to take all of us to change politics, and he's been successful in that respect so far.
	He's gotten, you know, the largest number of donors of any presidential primary.
	And I would say the policies, if you're talking policies, like the policies that he's trying to enact are just an extension of the New Deal.
	Which Democrats are like famous for it's our greatest accomplishment as our greatest.
	I mean as a country.
	It's our greatest accomplishment And I think that you know the average Democrat can see That Democrats haven't produced a large-scale victory or large-scale change for people in a long time.
	And we've been resting on our laurel.
	They've been resting on their laurels.
	And that's me being charitable, because that's not what I think.
	I think Democrats have been actively courting the right wing and deliberately chipping away at those accomplishments.
	But anyway, I would just rest on, like, you know, oh, he's an FDR Democrat, and oh, he's got, like, a huge, like, group of people and grassroots support behind him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Definitely, um, uh, turns out elevators are very slow in Seattle.
	That's what I learned.
	He has a lot of support.
	He's polling very well.
	He's an FDR Democrat, if you want to say it that way.
	He's been about it.
	He's authentic.
	And by an FDR Democrat, I mean he's going to lock up all the Japanese.
	And we really look forward to him doing that.
	Um, Jennifer Esperanza says, uh, responds, cult-like is media propaganda.
	He is awesome!
	Four exclamation points.
	It's always nice to see, like, women getting in on this and throwing some exclamation points in there, because I'm like, yeah, that's tight.
	Like, I wouldn't do that.
	And then Jan M Bartlett says, uh, to the original commentator, Lee, I agree.
	I think Bernie would be a great president if we could just appoint him.
	I mean, that's kind of what you do with your vote, you know?
	That's what voting is, yeah.
	He loves this country and all Americans, but unfortunately, it is not a level playing field.
	And I don't think he can beat Trump because there are so many dumbass Americans out there that will never take the time to read up on him, study his story and policies, and understand what he wants to do.
	The idiots among us need more flash and sizzle to make up for the fact that they are ignorant and want to stay that way.
	I think Bernie will not excite enough voters and unfortunately that is what we need.
	We have to defeat Trump at all costs.
	Maybe make him VP and then he could run after letting the country have eight years of seeing what a wonderful leader he can and will be.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	What a rollercoaster of a comment.
	What an absolute ride.
	I hate that whole thing where they need more flash and sizzle.
	Are you not seeing Bernie rallies?
	Are you not seeing Bernie speak?
	Are you not seeing people speak for Bernie?
	That shit's moving.
	What more could you want?
	I don't understand.
	We need a platinum selling rock band to support him.
	You know what?
	Nobody's assaulted somebody at his command.
	We need one of the largest female rappers to support him on Twitter.
	That's what we would need if we were going to support him.
	That's what we would need.
	Something like that.
	Something small like that.
	What if Ariana Grande endorses him?
	I wouldn't be surprised by that.
	She already kind of did.
	She gave him a shout out.
	She already kind of did, yeah.
	She picked him up.
	What a great day.
	I remember that day.
	It was a good day.
	Thank you, Next.
	Thank you, Next.
	No, the whole thing right here is just infuriating.
	I don't think he can beat Trump because there are so many dumbass Americans out there.
	The idiots among us need more flash and sizzle.
	They are too ignorant and want to stay that way.
	I really like Bernie, but I just fucking hate America.
	I just fucking despise everybody else inside this country.
	So I'm gonna vote for somebody worse than Bernie because I hate my neighbor.
	Yeah.
	Cause fuck you.
	Cause fuck them kids.
	That's why.
	This person is like either has just the most weirdly curated news feed that I've ever seen or they're making up excuses to not support Bernie.
	Because, like, how could you know about Bernie Sanders' candidacy without knowing how excited, like, his voting base are?
	That's the whole Bernie bro thing, is that they're too excited.
	They're too cult-like.
	Yeah, and then on top of that, like, one of the biggest oppositions is that he's older, and then you're like, let's let him wait eight more years.
	It's, appoint him as Vice President.
	Like, that alone should tell you that these people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
	Seeing what he can do as Vice President.
	Vice President does nothing.
	You do nothing.
	You give the tie-breaking vote in the Senate, and maybe you cut some rivets.
	Oh, I got a movie for you to watch.
	I gotta movie for you to watch.
	It's called Vice.
	It's gonna fuck your shit up, man.
	Think Vice Presidents don't have any power?
	I'm not in the mood for another edgy documentary about doing drugs while squatting in the Playboy Mansion.
	Yeah, don't.
	It's really just upsetting.
	Watching it's just upsetting.
	It's well done and everything, but it's just upsetting.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	We can't have Bernie because my extended family and my neighbors, the people in my town, they're all wretched scum.
	They're trash people.
	They're trash people and that's why I'm not voting for Medicare for All.
	They want to watch it burn.
	They want to watch it burn.
	Bill Ives says, I am voting for our nominee regardless of who it is.
	This was actually a bad night for Sanders, as he only won New Hampshire by 2%, while in 2016 he won by over 20%!
	What?
	What you're saying is that he's been good.
	That's what you're saying right now.
	Yeah, what you're saying is like, uh, he beat more people this time around than he beat in 2016.
	Yeah.
	He took on fuckin' six different people and still beat them.
	As opposed to beating just Hillary in 2016.
	Yeah.
	Insane.
	yeah Amy and Pete had 44% to his 26% wow that's true I never thought about it like that Yeah, that's a good point.
	I mean, yeah, okay, sure, he won, until you realize that everybody else had 74% to his 26%?
	Yeah.
	It's insane.
	Here's how many more people, he didn't get the majority, he didn't get over 50%.
	Yeah, dude's just finally learning what a plurality is.
	What the word plurality means.
	Oh, he's not learning.
	Hopefully someone told him after this.
	Hey, 44% is a bigger number and you can't deny that it's a bigger number.
	Hey, 44% is a bigger number and you can't deny that it's a bigger number.
	44% beats 26% every time.
	If the moderates can't agree on one choice, that person should run the table.
	Okay.
	So, this is the same nonsense of like, why do not all the Republican candidates simply pick the best candidate amongst themselves?
	Why do not the Democratic primary candidates simply get together and decide who's going to be president?
	Who's going to be the Democratic candidate?
	Not only that, but it's saying, like, see the problem with Bernie Sanders getting the most votes is that we need the person who's going to get the most votes.
	Yeah.
	Well, every one of these people will tell you that the electoral college is bad, that we need to go with the popular vote, that that's the most democratic way of choosing, and Bill Ives is like, uh, no, the two losing candidates should combine, should stack themselves into a pantsuit, and they should be president.
	They should form like Voltron.
	Yeah.
	No, I like that.
	I like the little, yeah, little rascals.
	Little rascals, like, trying to buy a movie ticket into the presidency.
	Yeah, totally.
	One for the Democratic nomination, please.
	And they're just, like, wobbling.
	Amy definitely gets to be on top.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	And just, one thing I will, like, get a little obnoxious about, or a little, what do you call it, pedantic about, if the moderates can agree on one, so, like, conventional wisdom, and I mean, it's not wrong.
	Pete and Amy are the more, quote, moderate candidates.
	They're the more right-wing candidates.
	There is a idea of the moderate voter That I feel is, like, a pretty big myth.
	Most independents, most, quote, moderates, like, they're not moderate politically, they just don't have coherent political beliefs.
	They'll just vote for Obama, and then they'll turn around and vote for Trump.
	It's not like they're in the middle so they have to vote one Republican, one Democrat, and alternate.
	That's not how that works.
	Yeah, they're not trying to keep a balance here.
	They're kind of like willy-nilly.
	There's no consistency.
	I guarantee a lot of it is just based purely on personality.
	When people ask, when canvassers ask Pete supporters why they like Pete, oh, it's personality.
	Oh, it's his education.
	Oh, it's the fact that he, the quote, fact that he speaks seven languages, which I guarantee you he fucking doesn't.
	It's, oh, that he's a Rhodes Scholar or whatever.
	It's these personal affects about him that you like which I mean because sure of course you don't pay attention to politics that closely you just see him like speak maybe once a day on your TV you know maybe once a week you catch a phrase that sounds like inspirational and I mean I don't understand anything about politics so what he said sounded like gobbledygook to me but I mean people clapped and he said it in a way that reminded me of Obama so I don't know it sounds good to me.
	But the long and short of what I'm trying to say is that just because Pete and Amy and the other Joe Biden or whatever are considered the moderate candidates that doesn't mean that their voters are quote moderate voters.
	That doesn't mean that like those voters are going to group together around whatever ideologically whatever other candidate is most closely like ideologically related to them.
	Like I saw a post that was like Who are you voting for?
	I'm voting for, uh, Yang or Biden.
	You know, of course, this was before Yang dropped out.
	This was before Yang dropped out, but it was like, um, I'm voting for Yang or Biden.
	And it's, it had like hundreds of likes.
	Nobody was even laughing at it.
	They're like, oh, that's cool.
	I like Warren or Pete Buttigieg.
	Oh, me?
	I like Sanders and- The Yang-Biden connection is a strong jawline.
	Voting for a strong jawline.
	I like Sanders and Tom Steyer.
	People are just a little bit incoherent.
	They're cute together, that's why.
	I'm not convinced of the argument that Sanders is in trouble because he doesn't have a majority of votes or delegates going forward.
	I don't think that Amy is going to be able to give all her voters to Pete or vice versa.
	Yeah, at all.
	It is interesting to see where people are going to push their people.
	Yang has basically said it, but I'm kind of waiting for him to actually say it.
	Because he's already said that Bernie should be your second choice.
	Do you think he's going to say it again now that he's out?
	I don't think it's going to matter, dude.
	A lot of polling shows that Yang voters' second choice is Trump.
	That's so, yeah, it doesn't surprise me, but I still want to hear him say that.
	Sure.
	Um, so this was, uh, I posted a screenshot of all the notifications I got from one of my posts.
	From somebody named Teresa Smith who tagged me in like eight comments in the span of four minutes in this blue No Matter Who group, this blue 2020 group.
	And luckily I caught screenshots before she either blocked me or deleted the thread.
	She did one of those because I can no longer see her comment anymore.
	It's gone now.
	Somebody posted, oh, Bernie won, or I like Bernie, or whatever.
	And I'm doing, like, the positive thing.
	I'm like, oh, it's so great to see a candidate who has a long track record of progressivism and a rich, diverse coalition of people behind him.
	You know, I'm just doing, like, the dumb voter, like, Democrat thing.
	Which, you know, those things I believe.
	But, you know, you have to be, like, performative in these groups.
	Teresa Smith just commented on her own, Bernie isn't an effective leader when faced with opposition.
	His agenda is too extreme for the national electorate and he has more baggage than LAX.
	Bernie is as much of a fraud as Trump and he'd run the country with the same autocratic craziness we get from Trump.
	And I pointed out that If you're not an effective leader when faced with opposition, how could you be an autocrat?
	How could you run the country with autocratic craziness if you're not an effective leader?
	Those two points don't quite go together.
	And it's also just funny, his agenda is too extreme for the national electorate.
	Once again, like, oh, it's just, oh, other people won't like him.
	Oh, but then also I fucking hate him.
	Like, just say that.
	You don't have to make the, oh, he's unelectable in Florida.
	Florida will not vote for that.
	Just say you hate Bernie.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Just keep it real.
	But yeah, don't give somebody bullshit that does not make any sense and doesn't add up.
	And then she replied, having autocratic tendencies is a barrier to actual success.
	So, autocrats are notorious failures, apparently.
	Having autocratic tendencies is a barrier to actual success.
	You may be able to con people into thinking you know what you're doing because you're so passionate about it but at the end of the day you fall on your butt and the people under and around you no longer respect or trust you because you've treated them all like crap.
	I love that whole thing too where it's like you're so passionate you don't know anything about it.
	It's like, what do you think?
	Do these people only have passions?
	Is that what it is?
	They don't really know what passion dictates?
	Well, again, it's like criticizing his strength, which is that he's been passionate about these issues for decades.
	They're criticizing the people who follow him for being passionate.
	They're criticizing himself for being passionate.
	And you know, it's just trying to find a hole in the breastplate or whatever.
	And yeah, it's just so funny.
	Like, oh well he's actually an autocrat but actually autocrats are notorious failures and they just con everyone around them and then they prevent the first woman from getting elected president and then they fall on their butt because they've fucked over everybody who's known and supported them.
	Yeah.
	And you're like, what?
	Where did that come, that kind of escalated fast.
	What's going on there?
	All because you've treated them like crap.
	And I was just like, um... You seem to have, like, a personal issue with Bernie.
	Like, what did Bernie Sanders do to you, Teresa?
	Yeah, who hurt you, hon?
	What's going on?
	I said, who has Sanders treated like crap?
	This is the first I'm hearing of that.
	And she posted an article about how he switched his party affiliation to run for president.
	I'm like, oh yeah, totally, I can see why you would be, uh, you would have PTSD from that.
	From that time when he like, you know, totally betrayed you because I'm guessing you were like a devout socialist and now you're like, wow, can't trust him.
	Yeah, and she was just copying and pasting like oppo research from the New York Times and Politico and Wall Street Journal.
	So she did like 12 comments and each comment was the length of an entire article and then it had the link at the bottom.
	Nice nice.
	And yeah, she said, oh, he's a con man because his stuff will never pass Congress and therefore he's a liar.
	And it's like, well, you just don't want his stuff to pass.
	That doesn't mean he's a con man.
	You just don't want it to happen.
	You just don't want it, yeah.
	Yeah, that's all.
	Final comment here.
	Jeffrey L. Stanley says about Bernie Sanders.
	Frontrunner?
	Mayor Pete has the most delegates.
	Oh, that's a funny typo.
	Cause it totally is a typo.
	Cause it's a, Wow.
	Bit of a Freudian typo here.
	I honestly did not read that when I saved this comment.
	That's not even the funny part of this comment.
	Mayor Pete has the most delegates.
	Okay, I think he meant Mayor Pete has the most delegates.
	And Biden still holds the lead in likely delegates.
	He was never going to win Iowa or New Hampshire, but he takes South Carolina and Super Tuesday is his, and it wouldn't surprise me if Amy isn't in third by then, basically making Sanders an also-ran.
	Oh my god.
	In this future that I have seen into the future, and I have seen Bernie Sanders as an also-ran fourth place candidate.
	Yep.
	It's like the magic shell trick he's trying to play here.
	It's just so funny.
	You know, uh, Mayor Pete was never supposed to win those first two.
	That's Biden.
	Sorry.
	Oh yeah, Biden.
	They're supposed to win the first two.
	And like, Mayor Pete's just doing great with all the delegates.
	Like they're going to pull out ahead and they're just, they're slow starters.
	It's a shell game, but there's no actual ball.
	No.
	It's a shell game.
	And he's like, Oh, see, there are the delegates that are going to happen in the future.
	This phrase is killing me.
	Biden still holds the lead in likely delegates.
	Yes.
	That is he you know what technically I mean yeah sure Bernie's won a couple races but technically Biden is still in the lead for the races that haven't happened yet.
	They haven't happened yet.
	He's still got his... Well, the thing is that there are people that have already voted for Biden in the past as a vice president, and those are basically delegate votes.
	Hypothetical.
	So yeah, it works out.
	That makes sense.
	I'm just picturing Jeffrey L. Stanley with, instead of a power stash and a ponytail, he's got a lanyard and his hair parted down the middle.
	And he's cutting up a LaCroix can and flattening in it.
	He's saying Democratic primaries are a flat circle.
	Everybody who will ever vote for Joe Biden has already voted for Joe Biden.
	He's just unstuck.
	Jeffrey is a man unstuck in time.
	And he's just telling us that those people will have voted for Joe Biden in the future.
	He's seen it.
	Yeah.
	Dude, I love this.
	Biden still holds the lead in likely delegate.
	It's like potential energy.
	I forgot all about the concept of potential energy that I learned in physics in junior year.
	But it's like, you know, Biden has potential delegates the same way like a ball you're holding out a window has potential energy.
	Yeah.
	And all we have to do is just let go of Joe Biden and he's going to fall and, like, collect delegates like he's bouncing off tree limbs on the way down.
	Well, the cool thing about the potential delegate statistic is the way it works is we can all claim it.
	So if you want to start using that as part of your elevator pitch, like, well, you know Bernie actually has us leading in potential delegates.
	He has the most potentiality as, um, from my point of view.
	I mean, you could actually make a case for that because Nate Sander, er... Wow.
	Nate Silver?
	Yeah, and it wasn't even... Whoa, who's in whose pocket?
	I wasn't even citing the right guy.
	I think it was, uh, yeah, I guess it was 538.
	So it was Nate Silver.
	Like, projected Sanders to win all fucking 50 contests.
	All 50, yeah.
	Yeah, so you could make the case for that.
	It'd be very stupid to make that your argument or whatever.
	And I don't think Bernie people will get as much leeway trying to make that argument or whatever.
	No.
	But I love, oh yeah, well Biden was always going to fail miserably in the first two contests.
	We knew that.
	Biden was always going to get 12% in the first two states.
	It's going to be so tight when he loses Delaware.
	I'm still so tickled by how bad it was.
	Well that's the, so the worst part about like the whole app, the Iowa app fuck up thing was obviously Sanders not having a decisive victory that night.
	The second worst is Biden not having like a decisive loss.
	That is, we were robbed of that.
	We will never forget what the Pod Save America boys stole from us.
	Those motherfuckers.
	They stole the Sanders victory and the Biden loss.
	Because I was working late that night and I said, God, I'd much rather be at home getting drunk with my cats and watching Sanders win and Biden lose.
	It's two wonderful things.
	Two great tastes that taste great together.
	And I was denied that.
	We were denied that.
	No.
	Uh, yeah.
	We had the soda, but the soda was kind of flat.
	Uh, yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Sanders is basically an also-ran at this point because I've looked forward into all possible worlds and determined that Joe Biden has the likely delegate lead.
	Because you know how that works.
	The person who wins Iowa and New Hampshire usually goes on to just like crash and burn.
	Do terribly, yeah.
	And I don't even know the names of the people who did that last time, you know?
	Yeah.
	I don't even know the name of the person who that happened to last time that they had to start at 1 Iowa, New Hampshire.
	I don't know that name either because I've deliberately not looked them up.
	Probably nobody.
	Probably nobody.
	Probably never happened.
	Okay, that's the end of the episode.
	Thanks so much for listening, folks.
	Thanks for supporting the show.
	We love you guys.
	This episode went long, so I'm gonna just say bye right now.
	Bye.
	Bye!
	Hey Mike, say stop and frisk!
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Racist piece of shit.
	I'm a teacher and I'm...
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