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March 11, 2019 - Minion Death Cult

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This week: DL Hughley's facebook page tries to drive a wedge between the black community and Ilhan Omar The MAGA crowd responds to accusations of fragile masculinity by being violently confused about what "fragile masculinity" means and Q Anon plans a civil war over the DNC refusing to let Fox News host a democratic primary debate Plus: We respond to Bernie's stance on sex work and reparations

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	The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today.
	So stay tuned.
	We're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
	It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
	Stay tuned guys, we'll show you exactly what it looks like when you're in the middle of the storm deserts.
	Follow their embargoes down.
	Stay tuned.
	I'm Alexander Edward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	The world is ending.
	D.L.
	Hughley's Facebook page, Mormon Teachers, and Newsweek, that's W-E-A-K, magazine, are responsible.
	We're documenting it.
	Uh, so as you can tell by the intro, we have a, uh, packed show for everyone today.
	Uh, there is so much to cover and so much we can't cover, unfortunately, uh, including an amazing article, an amazing post in the QAnon Follow the White Rabbit Facebook group about Chelsea Manning going back to federal prison for refusing to testify against WikiLeaks.
	That's right.
	Chelsea's heart body is fucked.
	And I mean, that would be the response that I would expect from a QAnon Facebook group.
	You would think, oh, the person responsible for working directly with WikiLeaks to reveal the war crimes, I want to say.
	I think that's an appropriate word of this government.
	WikiLeaks, of course, being the organization that released the Hillary Clinton, John Podesta emails.
	You would think that this would be the group to be sympathetic towards Chelsea Manning for going to prison to protect WikiLeaks.
	Nope.
	Don't they realize?
	You would be 100% wrong.
	Don't they realize if that if Chelsea Manning goes to prison, then she can never release like the lodges from Pizzagate.
	She can't, the logs of people coming in and out of the pizza party.
	Uh, she'll have to do it by kite.
	Specifically, by kite.
	By kite.
	Not pigeons.
	And then the government will know who visited Pizzagate, and they'll be able to protect them.
	But... No.
	Of course, in this QAnon Follow the White Rabbit Facebook group, people only had jokes about how Chelsea Manning is a man.
	People only had comments about how Chelsea Manning is a traitor to the U.S.
	government, which we now love, apparently.
	In a post with 160 comments, there were literally three people who were like, wait, isn't this group pro-WikiLeaks?
	Yeah, what's the deal?
	Don't we like that thing?
	And everybody else was like, she is a traitor, or he, excuse me, he is a man and a traitor and deserves to be raped in prison.
	And it's one of the most glaring examples, and we already knew this, but it's just one of the most honest and glaring instances of people in the QAnon Just telling on themselves that QAnon isn't about subverting the government or authority or the establishment.
	It's just about punishing your enemies.
	That's all it is and Chelsea Manning is the enemy for being trans.
	That's it.
	It's the antithesis of people who like claim gang shit and still rep Takashi 6ix9ine.
	It's the exact opposite.
	So that's something we can't cover really, but I think we just did a little bit.
	Another thing we can't cover is people comparing that cheese slice challenge, where you throw a slice of cheese on your baby's face, to, you guessed it, abortion.
	Another thing we were unable to talk about this week.
	Which is stupid because if you think about it, the only real comparison, it'd be more of like a pate than a cheese slice.
	Uh, Cheese Slice Challenge, why don't we do a Preserving the Sanctity of Life Challenge?
	How about that?
	Like, that's all it would have been, anyway.
	How about I challenge you to birth?
	To have birth.
	To give birth.
	That's what I challenge you to.
	I mean, hey, that is quite the challenge, and we honor the women who participate in it every single day.
	Shoutouts!
	So let me get Tony off my laptop, the other Tony, the furrier Tony off my laptop here.
	Hold on, furrier by like a hair.
	By one single hair.
	And I wanted to give a shout out to the couple people who left ratings and reviews on the iTunes.
	I'm scrolling through my phone here.
	Here we go.
	Thank you to Jesus Humps Kids.
	for saying uh enjoyable weekly banter five stars basically an hour of libs getting owned so hard and um that is true on this show we do amplify the voices of the lib owners on this show so an accurate review and then also press jockey says show this to your parents five stars shame them out of the comment sections of facebook actually don't yeah don't show this to your parents but do not show it to my mom
	Shout out to everyone but my mom, who I love dearly.
	Also, happy birthday, mom!
	It was your birthday this weekend, and we love you.
	We love you.
	Yeah.
	Thanks so much.
	If you're a new listener, hey, thanks for tuning in.
	This show's all about the...
	You know, some shows cover, you know, New York Times, editorials, what Forbes has to say about the working class, etc.
	No, we go straight to the source.
	We cover what the American, what the average American in the Facebook comments section is saying about politics, and it's every bit as horrifying as it sounds.
	Yeah, it gets pretty gross.
	So thanks for tuning in.
	Okay, so what we are talking about today, first topic here, Ilhan Omar vs. D.L.
	Hughley.
	A matchup I did not expect.
	You know, it really is a shame that a celebrity deathmatch is not a thing anymore.
	Because I was really looking forward to this problematic-ass episode.
	So, Ilhan Omar, literally my new favorite politician, I fucking love everything she's doing and saying so far.
	Big facts.
	I don't know if it's a contrarian take, but the whole Democratic-Liberal Ethos or mantra of, um, we have the most women coming in to this Congress or whatever is, you know, definitely a good thing.
	But it doesn't necessarily bode well for, like, fundamental change or fundamental...
	reshaping of the politics and I stand utterly corrected.
	I stand completely corrected because the people most responsible for changing the conversations right now are the are three freshmen women in Congress including Ilhan Omar AOC and Rashida Tlaib.
	Well all this really validates it doesn't really say that like It's not really saying that, you know, women are the savior, but it is definitely validating the sentiment that men are trash.
	So yeah, shout outs to them.
	Cause there's like, there's, there are zero men that are, there's zero men in like, I mean, except for the, except for the one big homie, the one big homie, shout out Bernie.
	The only one, and he's still got some work, but we'll talk about that.
	Um, he, there are no other men who are making waves.
	I can't think of anybody.
	And even, well, yeah, and even among these three women, Omar is standing head and shoulders above AOC and kind of upset at how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has responded.
	to the various controversies surrounding Ilhan Omar, the non-controversies that have been blown up against her.
	So Ilhan Omar, if you're not familiar, she was recently accused of anti-Semitism for saying that a lobbying group, an Israeli lobbying group, specifically the right wing of Israel, their lobbying organization, Influences Congress.
	She was accused of being anti-semitic for saying this obvious fact that a lobbying group lobbies Congress.
	And she was also accused of anti-semitism for bemoaning the fact that she is expected, as a politician, she is expected to Refrain from criticizing Israel.
	She is expected to refrain from boycotting Israel.
	She's expected to not be critical of Israel at all if she wants to serve in a foreign policy capacity for the government.
	She described this as, uh, I'm expected to be loyal to a foreign country, um, which is absolutely true.
	That is the, that is the, That is the political reality in this country.
	You really can't talk about how bad Israel is in mainstream politics.
	And she was accused of anti-Semitism for talking about how she can't talk about Israel.
	Not even for talking about Israel.
	For talking about how she can't talk about Israel, she was accused of anti-Semitism.
	The response to that was so interesting because people had to fabricate quotes in order to really make her look even kind of bad.
	Right.
	At no point did she say anything about having dual... Loyalty.
	Loyalty.
	She never said that.
	No, and the whole... Sorry to interrupt.
	Go ahead.
	And that was the thing to use against her, you know?
	It was so wild.
	It was just like... Why can't you quote her directly and make your point?
	Well, because they're saying that she's invoking this other bad thing.
	Yeah.
	And you have to compare it to that bad thing in order to make it, what she said, controversial.
	But the fact is the dual loyalty smear is a smear used against Jews.
	It's a smear used against Jews that they can't be trusted because they have loyalty to a foreign country.
	That's not what she was saying.
	By the way, I'm off by mere digits here.
	I think something like 72% of American Jews do not support the state of Israel.
	Yeah, I mean it's just crazy how rampant anti-Semitism is in America.
	The people who are claiming anti-Semitism know nothing about actual American Jews.
	And if you want to hear more about this, a very good sort of argument against the anti-Semitism lob against her comes from Sam Sater in the Majority Report podcast.
	It's an episode from last week.
	The word neoliberal is in the title, but you can also search on YouTube for Sam cuts through the noise on the Ilhan Omar controversy.
	He does a very good job of explaining that, you know, no, she wasn't accusing Jews of being...
	traitorous or whatever she was saying how oh look in texas there's a there's a fucking lawsuit uh being brought by a speech therapist who had to sign a document saying she wouldn't boycott israel in order to work for the fucking state that's what she's talking about how wild is that listen you can't enjoy you cannot like that's so un-american you
	You- they're saying you cannot engage in activism.
	You could not- you could not- Put your money where your mouth is.
	You're not allowed to now.
	I mean, it's the literal stifling of free speech.
	It's literally an act of a government imposing restrictions on the political speech of its employees.
	And you won't hear a peep out of Jordan Peterson or Charlie Kirk or Donald Trump about this.
	And oh, look, what's this in the news?
	Oh, Benjamin Netanyahu just said Israel is quote, not a state of all its citizens.
	So, wow.
	Shame on Ilhan Omar for criticizing Israel.
	Okay, so this D.L.
	Hughley post is not about her remarks about Israel or about AIPAC.
	This D.L.
	Hughley post is about her comments about the U.S.
	presidency, about the The acts committed by every president.
	Okay.
	And the page, whoever posted this, uh, via DL Hughley's Facebook page posted the New York Post article.
	Um, the headline is representative Ilhan Omar colon Barack Obama is a quote pretty face who quote got away with murder.
	And if you're wondering why only the words pretty face and got away with murder are in quotes, it's because that's the only thing she said.
	I fucking wish she said that.
	That she would have been so hard bodied.
	Whoever is, uh, I mean, New York Post is obviously trying to stir up some shit.
	They've always been trying to stir up some shit.
	Uh, her comments were about the structure and the, The role that the U.S.
	President, the platonic U.S.
	President, has played in murdering innocent people overseas.
	An absolutely true statement.
	Even the furthest right wing will say, yeah, people get caught in the crossfire, whatever.
	She is criticizing all presidents, and the New York Post has editorialized to single out Obama As the pretty face that she was talking about.
	She says, we can't let previous presidents get away with the same actions of Donald Trump just because they have a pretty face.
	We can't let them get away with murder just because they have a pretty face.
	This whole story, this whole post, it really, um, it really personifies the, the, not even conspiracy, just the fact that
	I mean people talk about mainstream media, but one thing that I think the mainstream media and the greater structure does, it does stoke a certain mindset within black America.
	They used Obama as like a reverse dog whistle, right?
	Yeah, totally.
	Hey, hey, listen, Black America, don't fuck with this person.
	She doesn't like your guy.
	Yeah.
	What's even more wild about that is they use D.L.
	Hughley.
	D.L.
	fucking Hughley, who I used to love.
	He had a great family show.
	The Hughleys was a great show.
	But D.L.
	Hughley now is One of the few people who not only talks shit about me too, but specifically Terry Crews.
	Do you know this quote?
	That was him?
	Yeah.
	Fuck.
	Quote, quote.
	He's a very big guy and I grew up a small guy.
	If you let someone do things to you, they keep doing it, he said.
	I felt it was disingenuous of all those people from the Me Too movement.
	Would they do that if he was beaten by police?
	And they do this thing where he's comparing, he's somehow saying that like, listen, we can't stop Assault against women until we stop assault against people by police.
	Two different things.
	And it's this thing that we see over and over again in black media and in black America.
	And it's so disappointing.
	It's like, fuck this dude.
	He literally said, Terry Cuse has all those muscles.
	He shouldn't have been touched.
	Yeah, you're referring to Terry Crews coming out and saying that he got grabbed, I think it was his... Groped, yeah.
	He got groped on his cock and balls there at a fucking party?
	Yeah.
	By a producer, I think it was?
	He was at a party and some producer just fucking grabbed him as like a joke or whatever to like, you know, hey, hey, look at this piece of meat right here.
	And it's this thing where he's really just, he's again, by way of Terry Crews, throwing women under the bus by being like, listen, we don't have time to worry about you women.
	Like we have this other issue.
	Yes.
	And that's a very valid and very important issue, but they're not the same.
	And if you think that a black woman has a better experience with the police, like you're wrong.
	Yeah.
	You're absolutely wrong.
	Anyways, fuck D.L.
	Hughley.
	I can't believe he's getting his own show again.
	He's getting a fucking late night show.
	That's the world we live in.
	We gave people like D.L.
	Hughley and Steve Harvey, these fucking Christian evangelists who were again bringing black America back a few steps by spouting off this conservative bullshit that only hurt ourselves in the end.
	And this is the most literal example I've seen of this in my day.
	Yeah, it sounds like you're telling Steve Harvey and D.L.
	Hughley to pull up their proverbial pants so they stop showing their asses to everybody.
	Exactly, because I mean both those dudes are misogynistic, homophobic, fucking assholes.
	And they are taking the culture backwards.
	The fact that this was posted to DL Hughley's page is wild.
	Like, definitely have an agenda against Ilhan Omar.
	Like, maybe whoever posted this, it definitely wasn't DL Hughley himself, but they, whoever posted this, you know, knew that they were able to post this without any sort of, you know, repercussions or whatever.
	It's definitely designed, yeah, like you said, to sort of drive a wedge in the black community.
	And this New York Post article, you know, obviously targeted at Ilhan Omar's black supporters, but also like, you know, milquetoast libs who love Obama and refuse to acknowledge the failures of the Obama administration.
	He's like the sacred cow.
	Bernie caught so much shit for saying that Obama didn't do enough or that he failed in certain respects.
	And it's the same thing here.
	This is the issue they're trying to drive here.
	Okay, so we just have one comment from this post.
	The top comments were like...
	Have a seat, girl.
	You don't know anything.
	You don't know anything.
	Shut your fucking mouth.
	But if you go past the first eight comments, there were a lot of people who were like, no, this criticism of Obama is valid.
	And I like Obama, but he is responsible for this shit.
	You have to take the bad with the good.
	There were a couple really wholesome comments near the top.
	Barbara Waters says, I don't agree with how she worded it, but she's actually right.
	Knowing or unknowingly, he did kill innocent people.
	And I mean, yeah, he knew it.
	He knew it.
	Played to the audience, you know.
	Troy Clark has the most galaxy brain response to this.
	Troy Clark says, Innocent people have to die for the greater good.
	The greater good is the freedom one gets to enjoy every day.
	Sleeping comfortably at night.
	Going and coming as you please.
	Jumping on a plane and traveling somewhere in the world.
	That freedom!
	Two exploration points.
	In Troy's defense, he did just get done watching Infinity Wars.
	Just gotta, half of them gotta go.
	Half of them gotta go.
	Um, and I, first of all, I love that he specifically references jumping on a plane and traveling somewhere in the world.
	Like, hey, some people got to die for that.
	And this just makes me think of the utter shit storm that happened when the TSA said that people had to remove their shoes to board a plane.
	Like, the complete breakdown of society because people had to remove their shoes for a flight.
	And that, of course, was reversed.
	But killing people?
	Well, that's just an acceptable loss.
	It's just a fact of flying commercial.
	Troy is talking about private planes.
	Troy is talking about... God, what are they even called?
	He's talking about the big bopper.
	What are those fucking... What are private planes called?
	Charter flights?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Rappers talk about them, but for some reason I don't know about it.
	Oh, the specific model?
	That's called an SR-71.
	Leader jets?
	Wait, an SR-71?
	Fuck.
	That was a deep cut right there.
	They're the ones that had the song about the threesome, right?
	SR-71 was about how I don't love her, but I still fuck her.
	I'm thinking of Phoenix TX.
	I don't know how that worked, but I was thinking of Phoenix TX.
	SR-71 is a song called Right Now, but it's all about using women and how you're way cooler than this woman, but you're still gonna fuck her because she may not be Miss Right, but she's right right now.
	Oh, just like a leader jet.
	That is, watch that music video.
	If you've never seen that music video, but you know the song, uh, like I did growing up, watch that music video because, um, it's the worst body language I've ever seen.
	Like that, like, I've never known body language could contain expletives.
	Uh, but that should be censored.
	That should be restricted language, whatever he's doing in that music video.
	I like that.
	I like that a lot.
	Uh, so I just think, like, Troy here lays out the idea that, hey, these freedoms that you enjoy, innocent people gotta die for them.
	And, like, that's cool.
	And this is actually, in my opinion, a fairly accurate assessment of capitalism.
	Cheap overseas labor, exploitative workplaces, poverty wages, private death squads enforcing corporate rule against democratization of workplaces in Africa or in Asia or India.
	These are all fundamental to, like, capitalism and the system we are currently in, and you're just not supposed to say that out loud.
	You're not supposed to use that as an argument for the system.
	You're supposed to just, like, intuitively or, like, subconsciously understand that, like, oh yeah, the misery of others, you know, including death... If he dies, he dies.
	Affords us this, like, relatively comfortable lifestyle if you have one.
	But yeah, when you're defending this system, you're not supposed to say that quiet part loud because it just only reads as a sick joke.
	Well, it's kind of like my favorite part about buying goods from Zara are the sweet little notes they put in the pockets.
	Like, uh, help me please?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I really have to pee.
	I'm being serious about the strife faced in sweatshops.
	I thought you were being serious.
	I was like, come on. - I'm being serious about the strife faced in sweatshops.
	Yeah, being very serious right now.
	But yeah, the way he phrases it is like admittedly hilarious.
	Like, innocent people have to die for the greater good.
	Eating a cheeseburger?
	Wearing a t-shirt?
	Visiting your grandparents out of state?
	Like, we're gonna need some dead military-aged males for all of that stuff.
	Hey, real quick, um, eating a cheeseburger's my line.
	If you could just back the fuck up, that'd be great.
	Yeah, okay, I wasn't talking about, like, dead non-humans.
	Can you not appropriate my vegan culture?
	I was talking about... Can you just not make it your own, thank you?
	I was talking about, like, the fast food employees who get underpaid and, uh, mocked and killed on their free time.
	Oh, I was just talking about the dumb slaughtered animals.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, let's move on to the next topic, uh... See, no one wants to talk about it, see?
	Tony, do you have anything more to say about, uh, this vegan segment we just did?
	I'm just saying, um, no one's free till the animals are free, so maybe you should think about that.
	I just think, like, you know, if you really look at how animals are treated, it's a lot like slavery and the holocaust and the Rwandan genocide.
	I mean, for cows... I'm 100% kidding.
	100% not.
	I mean, I'm... No, I am.
	I can't do it.
	I can't even jokingly do it.
	You can't be PETA in this segment.
	No, and on that note, don't stop eating the Impossible Burger.
	The testing they did was the best animal testing you can do, and it was worth it because that shit's delicious.
	Did they feed it to animals to see if they liked it?
	They tested heme out on animals.
	They fed heme to rats to make sure it doesn't kill them or make them have growths, and it turns out it doesn't.
	It turns out it's delicious.
	Whenever I go to Sizzle Pie, I'm doing my part.
	Whenever I go to Sizzle Pie, I always order one item from the vegan menu, one item from the vegetarian menu, and three items from the carnivore menu.
	Bruh.
	Their fucking vegan ranch?
	Insane.
	Anyways, next topic.
	I haven't tried it, but their vegan pepperoni is really fucking good.
	Yeah, it is.
	I love that place.
	Nigel Martin.
	The Nigel Martin shares a post to QAnon Follow the White Rabbit.
	It's a Newsweek article that says, Trump and Republican candidates appeal to men with fragile masculinity, researchers found.
	And this is like an article from, you know, 2017 or 2018.
	But Nigel definitely is trying to stir the pot here.
	And he posts this in that group and says, Good morning to all the fragile masculinity patriots.
	I like the way that's phrased.
	Hello, my fragile masculinity patriots.
	What's up, y'all?
	This fucking dumbass doesn't even put a hyphen between fragile and masculinity.
	Like, they're sensitive, but they're masculinity patriots?
	Yeah, they're masculinity patriots, yeah.
	So, I don't know, if you're not familiar with the idea of fragile masculinity, it means you aren't masculine at all, and in fact you're a bitch, and you're actually a woman if you're fragilely masculine.
	That's what the researchers found, that all Trump supporters are fucking wussies, and they're feminine.
	That's like definitely a metric by which scientific research can be conducted to find out how much of a pussy you are.
	And like not to...
	Not to, you know, feed into that, but the picture they're using is a picture of the Oval Office with a lot of, like, representatives.
	Ted Cruz being prominently centered in the photo.
	I've never seen a room full of men where, like, I could, I know several women that could beat up that entire room at one time.
	Not that that's a thing, um, but good, good photo choice.
	Like, these look like the fucking, I don't know.
	This group of dudes... Well, they had to include a shot of Marco Rubio where he was only in profile, so you didn't get the full-on stare.
	The full-on Mark Rubio masculine stare, to prove their point.
	It's a bit of editorializing in the thumbnail here.
	More like Mark Doodio.
	Kathy Bill responds to this... That fucking name, dude.
	I love that name so much.
	Cathy Bill.
	People call her Cathy Bill.
	Hey, Cathy Bill.
	She says... Come over, Cathy Bill.
	But Trump makes up for any weakness.
	Yeah, that's what the article's about.
	That's the whole thing.
	That's the whole thing.
	But I don't understand.
	Trump is so masculine, he makes up for our weaknesses.
	His boner is all of our boner.
	Uh, I like I'm insecure, but Trump makes up for that insecurity.
	Um, Bill Corbett.
	You know how many, how many men have like looked at their unsatisfied partners and been like, Hey, but we got Trump, but we got Trump.
	Hey, we got Trump though.
	Right.
	And their partner's like, "Yeah, you're right, we're good.
	We're good." - You're right.
	I squirted twice on inauguration day.
	So we're good.
	Uh, Bill Corbett says, I'm feeling so fragile right now that the only thing to calm me is cleaning my gun!
	Three exclamation points.
	Are they hilarious?
	This is one of those ones where sometimes I'm worried that we just have enough down-ass people out there that they make the best comments on here in trolling fashion.
	Yeah, that we're just getting... Once you click on Bill Corbett's name, you see that it's true as fuck.
	He means this.
	This is a funny joke to him.
	Yeah, we're just out here getting white-fished by QAnon comment sections.
	Yeah.
	You think I'm insecure?
	Well, haha, I'm caressing a rifle.
	You know what's insecure?
	The safety.
	The safety's insecure.
	You watch out.
	I noticed that a lot of you are currently stroking firearms, so just kidding.
	You're no longer fragile.
	You're no longer fragile men.
	Nevermind, I didn't mean to say that.
	Didn't realize you were about to shoot me, so I will take that back.
	Billy Sheehan says, Hey Newsweek!
	Spelled W-E-A-K.
	And then there's a dash and a hyphen, which is awesome to me.
	Like, because depending on what interface you're using, whether you're using a personal computer, whether you're using Windows, whether you're using Mac, whether you're using iPhone, Android, or whatever, sometimes that hyphen can be... sometimes that dash, rather, Can be hard to get.
	You know, sometimes you gotta put in the double hyphen to get the dash, sometimes you gotta hold down on the hyphen to get the dash, etc.
	Dude did a dash and a hyphen, which maybe makes me think he was just doing three hyphens, and it only autocorrected to one dash and a hyphen?
	Hey Newsweek!
	Dash hyphen.
	Go suck a cack.
	And actually, I don't mean to like burst your bubble, but that's actually Morse code.
	What does it stand for?
	It's just typo.
	I just tried to find it.
	I couldn't find it.
	Go suck a cack though.
	Go suck a cack.
	He spells cock with an ampersand.
	Which, you know, ampersand stands for at, which starts with an A, not an O. But go suck a cack, Newsweek.
	Maybe he just got carried away putting the A in Newsweek, and so he also put an A in cack.
	Good thing it was Facebook, because who would he have tagged in this if it was any other interface?
	Calvin Klein.
	Oh, duh, yeah.
	Of course.
	And I just like that this macho man yelling at a magazine to prove his masculinity still censors the word cock.
	Yeah.
	It's so good.
	Greg Abel says, I'm feeling exceptionally fragile down in O.Z.
	today.
	He's referring to the male prison, Oz.
	I might need to add a bit of concrete powder to my kangaroo steak that I hunted myself, killed with my bare hands, and cooked on the exhaust of a diesel tractor.
	Actually, Greg, I'm going to advise not to do that.
	Because if you did any of those things, you're going to get very sick.
	Yeah, but he's just proving that he can handle the sickness.
	I mean, sure.
	I've met people that have thought they could inhale concrete powder and it doesn't work out nicely for their lungs.
	Is that real?
	Stomachs?
	Yeah, you definitely cannot eat concrete powder.
	No, I know you can't.
	Have you met people who thought they could?
	No, but I've met people who thought they were too good to wear their respirators in, like, those scenarios.
	I've met people who snorted cinnamon Altoids.
	And I don't think they were trying to be masculine.
	I just think it was funny.
	Did I ever tell you about when I was trying to be masculine and snorted the powdered canny Raven's Revenge?
	No, trying to be masculine or actually just like the one person who fulfilled that parental scare porn conspiracy about Raven's Revenge looking so much like drugs that kids would snort it.
	It's funny, because I don't know why we did it.
	It was the same summer that I got suspended for having... I got expelled, actually, from summer school.
	Which is basically just like... They say expelled from summer school, even though you can come back for regular school.
	Yeah, so that means you punished with a summer.
	You just got given a summer for punishment.
	Because my hair was dyed red because I was very punk rock at the time.
	I thought you were saying you got suspended for snorting the candy.
	No, it was the same summer though, same day.
	I got, I'm just saying I was really feeling myself and I was really wiling out that summer.
	I snorted the Raven's Revenge and remember how it like foams up?
	No.
	Well, it foams up and it definitely came out of my eyeballs and I couldn't see for like a second.
	Dude, that's amazing.
	It's so weird because it's so out of my character.
	Do you think that person in the Guinness Book of World Records was just crying Raven's Revenge?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	What flavor was it?
	Which Raven's Revenge was it?
	It was blue.
	I don't remember anything else.
	My favorite Raven's Revenge was the white one with blue crystals.
	It was probably that one, yeah.
	That was the best one.
	Because it was like doing Coke and meth at the same time.
	Well, what's funny is I never even really I don't remember.
	I think I've bought it one or two times in my entire life and so it wasn't even mine.
	We just did it.
	You're just holding it for a frame.
	I was like the first one to try it.
	I was like don't don't do it guys.
	Don't do it guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I'm feeling exceptionally fragile.
	I might jump over a train and do a 1080 on my snowboard and have a threesome while surfing one-legged.
	That's the only way you can have a threesome.
	You think my masculinity is fragile?
	How about if I reimagine my life as a Spike TV bumper ad?
	Then will you believe that I'm masculine?
	Like, the dude is just, like, lying.
	Like, he's just, like, lying about being a caricature of manliness to prove that he doesn't have fragile masculinity.
	That's the exact definition of fragile masculinity, bro.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And everybody knows you're lying.
	Like, everybody knows that this isn't true about you also.
	So what is the fucking point of this comment?
	I wish it was like more real and more authentic and to a point where I can actually support it where they would be like, oh, fragile masculinity.
	Uh, think not my friend.
	How about you put on these stilettos and stomp on my balls?
	That would be, yeah, that would be an instance of strong virile masculinity.
	James R. Floyd says, LOL, I actually enjoy seeing Nazi propaganda tactics being used by the left.
	Interesting way to start that.
	Dot dot dot.
	I mean, it sucks that we have people willing to use them, but hey.
	Dot dot dot.
	That is what happens when everyone sucks Mark's dick.
	That's, uh, we're, you know, on this show we have to specify that that's not Mark Zuckerberg, uh, it's Marx with an S, with an X, excuse me.
	Um, so, you know, people adopting, people sucking Karl Marx's dick is why they're being Nazis.
	You guys know Karl Marx, my favorite incubus.
	I don't get that joke.
	An incubus is a demon that has sex with you, and being that Karl Marx is super dead, it's really the only way we can suck his dick.
	I know you're a fan of the band Incubus in real life, so I was confused.
	I thought maybe one of them shared a similar name to Karl Marx.
	That too, that too.
	Brandon Boyd changed his name from Karl Marx to Brandon Boyd to front the band Incubus.
	It just had more of a ring to it.
	And the real reason I wanted to include this topic is because James R. Floyd's profile picture is an evil Care Bear with a skull and bones logo on its tummy and glowing red eyes.
	And there's like a sort of hot topic, you know, the voices in my head don't like you type font.
	It's so fucking good.
	me i'll put you in intensive care bear it's so fucking good um it bums me out though because i i love i love the care bears as a kid i was gonna say man like this is this is a prime example of toxic masculinity like Thank you.
	You don't have to make your Care Bear edgy and murderous in order to like the Care Bears.
	You can just admit that you like the Care Bears, dude.
	You don't have to put a hyper-violent filter over your Care Bear.
	Well, I liked Care Bears a lot when I was a kid because as a chubby kid and a husky adult, I really like the idea of being able to save the world with your stomach.
	And as a vegan, you also like that idea.
	Yeah.
	That's like actually real though.
	And yeah, I just... Intensive Care Bear.
	This is like a robot chicken joke, right?
	Oh yeah.
	This is like, you know, what if stuffed animals were actually, like, having sex and murdering people?
	Wouldn't that be cool and masculine?
	Yeah, what if Care Bears were the intensive Care Bears, but they don't save people, they put people there?
	I don't know why it has to be evil.
	Like, red eyes insinuate evil, or, oh no, that Care Bear's just really stoned, huh?
	I don't know.
	Maybe this Care Bear is, um, I don't know, in favor of Medicare for all.
	And he thinks everybody who needs access to intensive care should get it.
	Uh, and so I was like really ready to be hard on James R. Floyd because of this, you know, this like weird Care Bear profile pic.
	But then I, I swiped right to his next profile pic and it's him.
	I'm assuming it's him.
	In full on... What is this face paint?
	It's... This is like ghost cosplay.
	I don't want to give this Juggalo cred because it's not.
	It's not Juggalo.
	It's too scully.
	It's very much the singer of Ghost, Hieronymus, whatever.
	Hieronymus, Geronymus, or whatever.
	It's like corpse paint through a sort of Renaissance, fair, carnival lens.
	uh and he's yeah he's in this he's in this face paint holding a compound bow at an at an archery gallery uh and so i want to take a step back and maybe reevaluate my assessment of uh james l brooks what is it james r floyd uh This man isn't as toxically or fragilely masculine, rather, as I thought.
	Like, this is a man who sees his own flaws.
	He sees his own demons and he chooses to wear them on his face.
	Like, this is the opposite of fragile masculinity.
	This is a man secure enough in himself to admit that he is twisted.
	Well, I also love that this guy's enough of a man to, you know, use a bow and arrow rather than a, you know, rifle.
	I mean, like, that's real.
	A real man is ready to, you know, take the life of the doe with their knife when they pull the arrow from the heart.
	Yeah, I mean, it's brave of him to take up a bow and arrow, which is the weapon of Katniss Everdeen from The Hunger Games.
	A woman's weapon.
	Artemis!
	Also, the weapon of the character from the movie Brave.
	So... Good on him.
	This isn't... I thought you were making a brave joke and then I realized really fast you were not making a brave joke because you don't have a five-year-old kid.
	Brave is one of the few Pixar movies that I haven't seen, which is weird because I am Scottish and I always talk about how Scottish I am and how proud of my heritage I am.
	That's weird because I've never seen you in a kilt, so... Why would I share with you, an outsider of my culture, you fucking Italian?
	True.
	True.
	Yeah, no, this isn't fragile masculinity.
	This is actually toxic masculinity because he's so fucking sick.
	He's so sick.
	Alright, John Grassel says, Hey, I got some fragile right here for you.
	This is not Jon telling us about how emotionally vulnerable he is.
	I'm pretty sure this is Jon telling us to suck his cock too.
	Jon is definitely grabbing his cock when he says, hey, I got some fragile right here for you.
	He's like, no, but seriously, every time I touch it, it hurts.
	I don't know what's wrong.
	Something's not okay.
	It's very fragile.
	Hey.
	You talking to me?
	With this post about fragile masculinity?
	I don't see anyone else here on the internet.
	You talking to me?
	It's like, just people telling on themselves.
	Like, they see a post about fragile masculinity and they're like, YOU BETTER FUCKING NOT!
	Yeah, nuh-uh.
	Jay Helen Elza says about Trump's policies I guess because again... This is one of my favorite fucking comments.
	Because again the article is about how Trump appeals to people who are...
	To supposedly people who exhibit fragile masculinity.
	The way they did that was they just like quantified Google searches from parts of the country that voted for Trump.
	Like searches that included erectile dysfunction or whatever.
	Which I don't know is a scientific method of determining fragile masculinity.
	It sounds like a scientific method.
	Hey listen, even if it was science it'd be wrong.
	True.
	It just sounds like a method of determining who's fucking old.
	But J. Helen Elza says they appeal, so I guess like Trump's policies or Republicans, they appeal to the teams of the greatest fighting men on the planet, the United States military!
	And then Gary Haslob.
	Gary Haslob replies, Hoorah, ma'am!
	We never lost a challenge!
	They imposed on us!
	Not even in Vietnam!
	What the fuck?
	I love that caveat.
	Like, dude, cause no one...
	No one even talks about how we lost Vietnam.
	Like, no one even talks about that.
	But he was like, don't even bring it up.
	We didn't even lose there.
	That's all you're saying.
	That's like the only, if we are talking about Vietnam, that's the only thing people talk about Vietnam is how you fucking lost, Gary.
	Sorry, dude.
	Listen, if we lost in Vietnam, how come I can go there with $500 and live like a king?
	I mean, hey, innocent people have to die to secure that right for you, and the US military fulfilled that challenge.
	I love that.
	We never lost a challenge they imposed on us, not even in Vietnam.
	Remember the Vietnam challenge?
	Remember that viral challenge when the government...
	When the government dropped its own brand of Kraft Single on the faces of U.S.
	soldiers to see how long they could live with leukemia and Hodgkin's lymphoma.
	Kraft Agent Orange?
	Hey, Vietnam Challenge, let's see how long your progeny can survive with the genetic birth defects they'll have.
	Hey, Vietnam Challenge, when you're done with this, you're gonna deal with a severe heroin problem.
	Vietnam Challenge re-acclimating to society.
	Or if you're President Donald Trump, Vietnam Challenge is a game of dodgeball.
	Well, I stand by that challenge.
	That's right.
	That's a challenge worth doing.
	I bring the hard news.
	Um, Kelly Gianrosso says, sorry idiot, we wear MAGA hats, run to the sound of gunfire, and into burning buildings.
	We drive V8 powered pickup trucks, Humvees, tanks, and fly Apache gunships.
	Oh yeah, and toilet!
	Aw, he didn't really say that.
	That's totally a toilet moment.
	This is a toilet moment.
	This is, I love, I love toilet!
	Toilet!
	Just guy stuff.
	Just man stuff.
	Like Apache gunships and, oh yeah, toilet!
	And fly Apache gunships while you drive Priuses, bicycles, and other lib idiot stuff.
	Like bicycles.
	What idiots.
	It's the left that are limp-wristed soy boy beta males.
	Fuck off Newsweek.
	Again, with an A. Newsweek with an E-A.
	This comment is so insane.
	This comment is, sorry idiot, we're morons.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, idiot.
	We wear MAGA hats.
	Run to the sound of gunfire.
	Sorry, morons.
	When we hear gunfire, we go to that location where people are shooting.
	Dumbass.
	You nosy asshole.
	What are you doing?
	Hey, while you idiots are running away from gunfire, we hear gunfire and say, hey, what's going on over there?
	And like, you know, walk over.
	I have this moment referring to gunfire.
	This week we're... So, I was driving on the freeway, and something just came up and smashed my window.
	And it was my windshield.
	It was the loudest noise I've heard in a very long time.
	And I was telling somebody, a friend, about how, yeah man, it was fucking crazy.
	It gave me flashbacks.
	It gave me... I felt stress like I hadn't felt in a long time.
	And some guy was like, what do you know about stress?
	And I was like, no, it was like...
	He was like, what do you mean PTSD?
	What do you know about stress?
	I was like, no, it made me feel like I was getting shot at.
	And he was like, what do you know about being shot at?
	Are you a vet?
	And I was like, no, actually, I've been in multiple drive-by shootings and I've been in a car where someone was shot and it brought me back to that moment.
	And it was so weird because he thought he was going to like own me.
	Yeah, he thought he was like, not concerned trolling you, but you know, one-upping you.
	This guy's not a vet.
	This guy's only been around a lot of gunfire.
	This guy's not a vet.
	This guy's only been around a lot of gunfire.
	So his mind was like, I don't ever jump when I shoot my gun.
	But it's like, no, I don't jump when I shoot my gun either.
	But when I hear a gunshot very, very, very close to me, without knowing what's happening, it sends survivor mode in me.
	And it was this really wonderful moment.
	It's like, what do you mean you react when somebody fires a gun, but what do you mean your leg kicks up when the doctor hits your knee with a rubber mallet?
	He was genuinely insulted that I was comparing getting my windshield smashed to the trauma that a soldier feels.
	And I wasn't doing that.
	That's not what I was doing.
	But I was like, yeah man, it took me back to that.
	I felt a stress I haven't felt in a long, long time.
	And he was so insulted that I could feel the stress of near death, but I don't have stars and bars, you know?
	Yeah, it's really interesting the way people selectively choose to acknowledge PTSD.
	As if PTSD is...
	Like, something that the president bestows on you when you get back from overseas?
	Yeah.
	And it's not an actual, like, psychological condition that can happen to anybody experiencing trauma?
	And, like, not to at all, by any means, belittle the PTSD that is experienced by veterans, but, like, I didn't... They know that that's a potential side effect.
	That's not something that I volunteered for when I grew up in the neighborhood I grew up in.
	You know, it's a little bit different, but for some reason, this guy's mine.
	Yeah.
	Because I didn't, you know, serve Uncle Sam.
	You didn't even get a Dodge Charger out of it.
	Yeah, because I didn't save anyone's like, you know, I didn't lose any buddies.
	is just like you know crazy.
	Let me get to where I was here.
	Uh... Trixie Griffith Raukowski says, Dems deem masculinity to be transgender!
	Which, I don't really understand what she means by that comment.
	I love this.
	I wish that's what people thought masculinity was.
	That's such an optimistic point of view on masculinity.
	Listen, masculinity can be transgender, right?
	That's a good thing.
	I would be into that.
	Lots of comments in this comment section were like, Republicans have fragile masculinity.
	Dems are the ones with men in skirts.
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	Which, like, aside from the fact that they don't understand what fragile masculinity actually means, that they're taking it to mean anti-masculinity or a weakness in the arena of masculinity.
	They're in the space where fluidity and masculinity would be a bad thing.
	No, they're in the space where they're, like, acknowledging that trans women aren't masculine.
	Oh my god, yeah, you're right.
	To make their point.
	They're acknowledging the fluidity of gender and the sort of social construct and the social idea of gender to where it is this sort of superfluous or Shallow interpretation of what it means to be a different gender.
	Oh, you put it like they're acknowledging that trans women aren't real men.
	And it's amazing.
	That's beautiful.
	It's amazing.
	They're so close to getting it.
	They're so close to getting it.
	Holy shit.
	I just thought that was like a really interesting thing that was happening and that's something you can see in almost any comment section where people want to make fun of trans women like they'll call them you know pussies or wimps or whatever and all of all of those words of course being substitutes for women the word women you know Yeah.
	Kurt Kendig says, So, Soyboys think we're fragile.
	A little tag team MMA with their best and brightest would clear that up.
	Wait, does Tag Team MMA exist yet?
	I'm not an MMA person, but I am a WWE person.
	I would love Tag Team MMA.
	Tag Team MMA is like when you get knocked out with a folding chair and somebody has to jump in and take your spot.
	That sounds so sick.
	And so then I replied to Kurt.
	I said, uh, what belt are you?
	I just started training MMA and I feel fucking awesome.
	And then Kurt replies, I am a 67 year old health enthusiast with no belt rating, but I would relish the opportunity.
	Wait, does he realize he's challenging us to a fight with him and his best mate?
	Uh, well, he is a health enthusiast.
	So I don't know.
	It doesn't sound like an easy target to me.
	I don't know, man.
	He's calling out an actual soy boy.
	Like to be, to be a health enthusiast, you have to, um, be confident in your health, you know?
	And if you're in a fight and you lose, like you're obviously like getting hurt and therefore not healthy.
	So he's, um, not going to enter a fight where he thinks his health might be at risk.
	So he wants the smoke is what you're saying.
	I just think that's funny.
	He's like living, he's just like living vicariously through people who actually do MMA.
	Tom Kaiser, last comment of this segment says, when one of them sticks a gun up your butt and pulls the trigger, we will see who is fragile.
	Is Tom like impervious to having a gun stuck up his butt and having the trigger pulled?
	Can he survive that?
	Well just none of these like soy boy beta male weaklings would be willing to do that to him.
	That's the difference between him and these fucking researchers.
	My favorite thing is when like Dude, bro, guy, masculine, male dudes go into like, I'm gonna put a thing in your butt.
	I'm gonna do butt stuff and we'll see how gay I am then.
	Yeah, it's the best.
	Yeah, no, threatening a combination of rape and murder because an article indirectly implied that you might be insecure.
	Yeah.
	We'll see who's insecure when I fucking murder you for this possible insult that wasn't even levied against me personally.
	You think I'm hypersensitive about my masculinity?
	What if I kill you?
	We'll see who's sensitive then.
	That's the best part.
	We'll see who's fragile.
	Just like him crying while he murders you.
	It's me!
	I'm the sensitive one!
	I didn't expect this, this is a big moment for me!
	Alright, so moving on to Fragile Masculinity, or moving on from Fragile Masculinity, on to another just totally deranged comment section about a relatively benign article.
	We have another QAnon post, a post in the Facebook group for QAnon, follow the white rabbit.
	Anne A. Chevrier posts a Huffington Post article about how the DNC says it will exclude Fox News from televising 2020 debates.
	And this was just like Tom Perez...
	DNC chair saying, hey, fuck Fox News, we're not going to let them host a Democratic primary debate, etc.
	And the comment section was just utterly deranged.
	I mean, it's a wild concept.
	It's a wild thing.
	What is?
	The DNC not using Fox.
	I love it.
	Seth?
	What are your actual thoughts about this?
	I think they're right, you know.
	I'm not a Democratic Party member, nor do I respect the DNC or think they're good.
	But yeah, why would you allow the enemy, from their perspective, to host a debate for just your candidates?
	It would make no sense.
	Now, to play the advocate of Satan himself, and by the way, I recently had someone we both know accuse us of being a few things, and one of them was a Democrat.
	Hell yeah.
	And I was like, wait, hold on, no, uh-uh.
	All that stuff he said, whatever.
	They call us bad Democrats at that, and I'm like, yeah, because we're not Democrats.
	Yeah, no, that's good.
	It's good that we're bad Democrats.
	Yeah.
	So I heard this argument.
	Where, so now, because Fox will play snippets of, they will play highlights from debates, no doubt.
	And they'll use the highlights however they wish.
	They will spice and dice those.
	But if they were to host a debate, they would have to show an unabridged version of a debate between Democrats that, to be honest, the people who watch Fox will never see without that venue.
	They will only see what Fox shows them of them, but if Fox were to have to host one, Which they don't want to, they just said they can't now.
	If they were to host one, the viewership would see that version of it rather than the edited Fox News screenplay they write.
	So you're saying that this person was playing devil's advocate for the Democrats.
	Oh, real quick, time out, time out, real quick.
	So the person that accused us of being Democrats is like a regular folk who I mean no shots of this person but they're Very normal people.
	The person who brought this argument to my attention was actually one of the hosts of the Slates Political Gab Fest, who the only person I spoke on there and the only person who I'll give a shine to is Emily Bazelon because she hates cops.
	Shout out to Emily Bazelon.
	But I think it was John Dickerson was like saying some shit about like, if Fox has the debate, he's going to bring the debate into the homes that would otherwise not watch the debate.
	And maybe they might hear a snippet of Bernie saying something that appeals to them, but now they're only going to get the abridged version.
	Yeah, okay, so two points to that.
	One point is that the content of these snippets, whether they originate from Fox News or whatever, would be different if they originated from Fox News.
	The content would not be the same.
	The content would be... But there'd be that one time where they see answers live.
	I don't think people who only watch Fox News are the target audience for Democratic candidates.
	I think, A, Democratic candidates are going to air ads on Fox News anyway and get their message to Fox News viewers, and B, the people who only trust Fox News are not worth... It's going to be a budge.
	They're not, I mean they might, but they're not worth like the otherwise far-right propaganda and wedges being driven deliberately by the hosts of Fox News that would happen in a debate.
	Wow dude, you sound like a real dummy rat right now.
	Anyways, No, I sound like somebody who's not gonna waste time trying to court suburban soccer moms or whatever.
	You know what I mean?
	Like... You sound like a real damsel crap.
	That mindset appealing to Fox News viewers is asinine.
	Like, yeah, sure, some of them might be swayable, but the Democratic primary and the election itself is going to oversaturate every single market, including those on social media.
	as well as cable, and their messages will get out there and are probably going to get out there more effectively via social media and word of mouth than they would by being filtered through the lens of a Fox News debate host.
	Like, I don't trust Brett Baier to say anything other than, how are you going to pay for it?
	But what if the Fox News debate is suddenly interrupted by a rap concert by none other than LP and Killer Mike themselves, run the jewels, and they will get a whole slew of white college-age voters and they will get a whole slew of white college-age voters for Bernie Yeah, totally.
	They should just air that video where the dude fights with a cop for three and a half minutes.
	Just air that and sway a bunch of Fox News viewers.
	Yeah, so I think that that's like...
	More lib-centrist mindset of, uh, we have to include Fox News viewers.
	Anyway.
	I think you're right.
	I think you're right.
	Seth Pogacich says about the DNC excluding Fox News from hosting a debate.
	Seth Pogacich says... Not American-ish, that's all I know.
	He's Czech.
	Ugh.
	He says, we are the news now.
	Uh, yeah, which is a statement that I love.
	Oh, you mean Seth Pocachich of Seth Pocachich's Tonight on Fox.
	Yeah, Seth Pocachich of Newsroom.
	Yeah, we know.
	We are the news!
	Um, no, I love this because, like, as Minion Death Cult, we fully endorse this statement.
	You, you are the news.
	Yeah.
	You're the news right now.
	You're exactly right.
	Seth Pogosich, by the way, his avatar is half Punisher skull, half Spartan helmet.
	Dude, there was a brief second where I was so terrified because I thought I saw a nationalistic Blue Lives Matter MF Doom mask.
	And I was like, no, the last demographic.
	Okay, so I don't think I told you, I don't think I, the last demographic.
	I don't think I told you this, but I was delivering to a house and this dude was out front and he was wearing a peacoat.
	You know, this is like fucking 30 degree weather.
	And he was wearing a peacoat and he had pins on his peacoat.
	This is a black dude.
	And I was walking up to him and I saw a pin on his jacket and I thought it was a Punisher skull.
	And I was like, that's fucking weird.
	Like not to stereotype or be like racist in a way, I guess, but I was just like, that's weird.
	And then as I got closer, I saw it was a fucking MF Doom pin.
	And I was like, oh, okay, thank God.
	This makes sense.
	It was the exact opposite of what I just experienced.
	I was like, okay, this makes sense.
	And I was, you know, I was like, oh, oh.
	And oh, he had a MF Doom pin and a Bob's Burgers pin.
	And I was like, oh fuck, dude, I love your pins.
	He had like a Gene Belcher pin.
	So when you do start smoking weed again, talk to him about where to get it in the city so you don't buy racist weed like I did.
	And I was like, oh yeah, I like your pins.
	And I was like, MF Doom is super tight.
	He's like, oh, you actually, you know who he is?
	And I was like, yeah.
	And then he told me he bought a fucking real MF Doom mask from some metal worker in like Sweden or some shit.
	He has a real MF Doom mask.
	And I was like, you got an ugly sweater to go with that, right?
	He was all, hell yeah I do.
	So the best part about this is this guy who bought an MF Doom mask from Sweden was surprised that a white dude knew who MF Doom was.
	Of course the white dude knows who MF Doom is.
	No shots at Doom, but I mean, yeah, white people love MF Doom.
	Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I'm a big fan of MF Doom, but I'm a bigger fan of Adult Swim, you know what I mean?
	Where MF Doom has done, like, several appearances.
	I'm just kidding.
	Anyway, um... He had multiple albums released through Adult Swim, yeah.
	Yeah, so that day and, like, the next couple of days, I just listened to Special Herbs and Spices.
	Fuck yeah.
	So I thought this whole, like, we are the news now thing was just so fucking funny.
	Like, we are the news now!
	We don't need, we don't need the fucking New York Times or whatever.
	We are the news.
	Like, we're just making- It's so Joker.
	It's so, it's so Bane.
	Yeah, we're just, we're just making shit up and that's the news now.
	Um, I thought that that was hilarious, but then another comment was just a photo, just a meme posted, And it's like that sexy Megyn Kelly, I think GQ photo shoot where she's like pulling one of the straps off of her.
	That is Megyn Kelly then.
	It's Megyn Kelly and it's where she's like wearing like a slip.
	What is this piece of lingerie called?
	It's a negligee.
	It's a black negligee.
	And she's pulling one of the straps off of her shoulder and it's impact font and the top text says, we are the news now in all caps.
	And then the bottom text says, Q. I think they spelled blacked wrong?
	They spelled what?
	Blacked wrong?
	Why is this here?
	Why does this meme exist?
	This is literally that Bart for class president poster.
	Megyn Kelly!
	Megyn Kelly in lingerie!
	Now that I have your attention.
	Q. Is Q supposed to be kinda sexy?
	Yeah, definitely.
	Sexy people know about Q?
	But see, Megyn Kelly is like the enemy.
	Because she went to MSNBC.
	She criticized Trump.
	I don't understand what this meme is.
	But I love it.
	I still love it.
	She still stands for white Jesus, so...
	And white Santa Claus, so that's true.
	And white?
	Just white, okay?
	Oh my god, where's that meme?
	I stand for white?
	Bob... Bob Q Truther...
	Real name, real name.
	Bob Q. Truether says, then the RNC should refuse the debate.
	Easy peasy.
	Wouldn't that be crazy if the RNC refused the Democratic primary debate?
	Wouldn't that be wild if that actually happened?
	Yeah, are they not letting it happen?
	Are they breaking it up?
	Yeah, they just refused the Democratic primary.
	I thought it was just going to be like a noise pollution protest.
	Tina M. Gladdening says, and the best way the American people can fight back is to refuse to watch the debates and watch Fox instead!
	Yeah, those people are still going to do it.
	Wouldn't it be crazy if all the Fox News viewers just watched Fox and nothing else and only got their information from Fox?
	Wouldn't that change the makeup of American politics?
	So what's really interesting about Fox is that the makeup of the Fox demographic is still only something like 30% of Trump's supporting cast.
	Like, it's only 30% of Trump's supporters are Fox stans.
	People that say we only watch Fox, it's only like 30% of Trump supporters are Fox fans.
	So what do you mean by that?
	Do you mean 70% of Fox viewers don't support Trump or do you mean that 70% of viewers don't watch Fox at all?
	No, 70% of Trump supporters don't think that Fox is the end all be all.
	They watch everything else too.
	But only 30% of Trump supporters watch Fox.
	And Fox is still on like the bottom tier of the rating system.
	So not that many people even watch Fox.
	Fox is on the top tier of the rating system.
	Fox is like the most watched show.
	Sorry, I mean exclusive.
	Exclusively.
	Okay, got you.
	And so it's pretty wild, like, most Trump supporters will still take in on the news.
	But it's that wild bunch, man.
	But when they say other outlets of the news, they're talking about QAnon Follow the White Rabbit Facebook group.
	That's what they mean when they say they watch, they take in other media sources.
	They wouldn't even, like, call that a media source or, like, a news because that implies some sort of, like, washing.
	This is just straight truth.
	I only watch Fox and Facts.
	I love this idea that thousands of Fox News viewers are going to do the hashtag walk away from CNN.
	Yep.
	Hashtag leave the CNN plantation.
	What's funny is the RNC debate was only aired on NBC.
	It wasn't on MSNBC.
	They didn't do every single outlet.
	I mean, they don't have to.
	No one has to.
	Like, this shouldn't have been news.
	I think there's like several debates.
	You know, there's a multitude of debates for any season, primary or otherwise.
	And I think they shift channels.
	Like, the first debate is held on a channel.
	The second debate is held on another channel.
	Yeah, they do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But the thing about the channel is the channel also gets to pick the host and the questions.
	Right.
	Which is why, which is kind of why I think it'd be cool if like, it'd be kind of tight.
	It'd be, okay, so this is, this is my, this is my argument.
	It would be cool because it would force people on the, on the Democrat side to be more raw.
	Like, if they ask Kamala Harris some question about, um, crime and, and, uh, Being tough on crime?
	That would be weird.
	She'd have to ask her, like, really tough on crime.
	She would have to answer that way, because she is.
	And she'd have to answer that way, and that's, like, not a very popular stance on the actual left.
	I mean, there's some Democrats for sure, but it would force them to expose their real rightness.
	Their real, like, conservativeness, you know?
	I don't, I mean, I think that that's a really good point, but I also don't know, I still, even if the debates were held on Fox News, I don't know that the Democratic primary candidates would be playing to the Fox News viewers.
	But in their mind, they're not even playing the Fox News viewers.
	They're playing themselves.
	But the thing is that we have Democrats, we have people on the not-right, I'm not going to say left because they don't get that clout, who are sitting here saying things like, oh, I like Kamala Harris.
	I don't know why, but I like her.
	And this would force her to answer these questions in a way that exposes themselves for the conservative pieces of shit they are.
	Yeah, well she's like shifted on a lot of her politics, you know what I mean?
	So I don't trust her to be honest about her record or have the same, espouse the same views that she's actually put into practice.
	But if they were to ask her about like abolishing prison, she would not answer that in a way that I would support.
	There's no fucking way.
	I don't think Bernie would either though, you know?
	Yeah.
	No, no, he wouldn't.
	Cause I mean, he's still even like, Oh man.
	Did you watch that Breakfast Club interview I sent you?
	Uh, I, yeah, I, I watched a couple of clips from it.
	It's really good until the very, very end when, um, somebody asked him, uh, How do you feel about sex workers?
	Do you think that sex work should be legal?
	And he had no answer.
	He was like, well, I don't know.
	There's, there's a lot to talk about there.
	Yeah, that sucks.
	And I was like, yeah, it sucks.
	But that's, that's my, that's like my big hang up.
	Please bring more hang ups.
	If you guys have them, like let us know, please educate.
	But, um, that's my, that's my hang up there is he was not down for, he wasn't, All the way down for sex work.
	He's gotten better on foreign policy, but he still voted for that anti-sex work bill, along with literally...
	Sosa Festa, I can't remember the acronym.
	Yeah, FASFA.
	Yeah, he voted for FASFA.
	No, Sosta Festa, or I think it is.
	Yeah, I think, yeah.
	Which literally every senator voted for except Rand Paul and Ron Wyden of Oregon.
	And this was the bill that This was the bill that held websites responsible for any sort of...
	illicit activity that occurred on those websites and that illicit activity was defined as, you know, sex work, classified ads for sex work, etc.
	So just all this did was drive sex workers back onto the street.
	It made, it literally like put sex workers in danger and probably resulted in, you know, harm and death for sex workers.
	But Bernie's definitely one of those people who thought He thought that that vote was not against sex work, but was against human trafficking.
	When drawing that correlation is not fair to the people who are trying to pursue sex work as a profession and deserve every right as everyone else.
	Well, they just deserve all the safety they can get.
	Yeah, but that's what he thought he was doing.
	He thought he was protecting people from being human trafficked.
	That's the way the bill was marketed, but that doesn't mean he has to read it that way.
	He's made controversial votes before.
	No, I'm not backing him doing it at all.
	I'm just saying that's where he's coming from.
	And it sucks.
	Yeah, I didn't like his answer on reparations either.
	Me neither.
	I kind of want to like have maybe an episode on that or talk about that soon because I have a lot of thoughts about that.
	I think we do need to dive into that because it's an interesting question and I don't think it's... It's an interesting question is what it is.
	This is where I'll leave this because I do want to speak on this a little bit.
	The concept of reparations, reparations for slavery, does not make sense because the thing is, white America, white male America, is still accruing a tab.
	We can't settle yet.
	What are they going to pay for?
	Damages they're not done doing?
	We have to undo the damages first.
	We have to make things right first.
	And then we can settle the tab.
	But right now we have several levels of reparations that need to happen.
	We have descendants of slaves where there was zero chance.
	And Few and Far Between made it through, through the ground soil.
	From there we have Black America that has migrated to America, descended from slaves and bred and like, you know, become family with.
	We have Black America who has included its own separate amount of injustices and same and a different, different level of, um, unfairness and filters set against them.
	And then from there we've had the women within those minorities who've had a different amount of circumstances thrown against them.
	And then from there we've had other brown people, other non-white males come into the correlation and come into the calculation and they need reparations.
	But the thing is the damage is still happening.
	The tolls are still being taken.
	The tally is still adding up.
	The talk reparations... Yes.
	Yes, it's not fucking fair.
	I want my acre.
	I want my goddamn acre.
	But... I also want to be paid for the other shit you did.
	I also want to break even for the other slights that have been made against me and my people and my brothers and sisters and those among us.
	So the tally is not done.
	How do we send an invoice for work that's not finished?
	That, I mean, that's an amazing point.
	Um, I, you know, I swerving out of my lane here.
	Um, the idea of reparations to me, and I'm sure like even people who agree with the idea of reparations, which I do, um, will agree with me on this is that it isn't enough.
	And, uh, it's only generational at best.
	Not only is it not enough money, it's just not enough of a reshaping of the structures that perpetuate, like you said, the different levels of harm brought against communities.
	I really see reparations, at least in the view that we're looking at it in terms of a Democratic primary, you know, because I think Kamala Harris has endorsed reparations.
	I think maybe Cory Booker has endorsed reparations, and I don't believe that they actually will fight for those things.
	But I see it in this current discussion among Democratic candidates as a sort of... I see a parallel between reparations in this context and universal basic income.
	I see UBI, which some people on the left are arguing for, I view it as a bribe.
	I view it as a sort of placating, you know, a peon to the working class in the UBI sense, or a sort of payoff to people of color in the reparations sense.
	I don't think it's enough.
	I think it's...
	a a bad faith argument that these centrist democrats are making and b it's not nearly as uh as sufficient as as it as it needs to be to to actually do reparations exactly and not only that but um the concept of reparations now in the current state of america where black people and women and black women and um
	Black trans women specifically, when we have these demographics that are being so rooted against and being so fought against and being literally murdered, how can we take a check now?
	How can we take a check now?
	What they're saying is, this is a Stormy Daniels shut up check.
	This is a don't talk about it anymore.
	This is a generational thing.
	And not only is the generational, a generational solution, this might pay my bills for the next year, maybe.
	And that's me being generous to what they would call a reparation check.
	I doubt it would do that.
	I feel like I could maybe pay my bills for three months and that's still me being generous.
	But what this will do, this is going to make a lot of, a lot of non-black people, non-black America, other people in America, people who feel like they're being oppressed, including white men in America right now.
	Even more bitter towards black America to where it would, the backlash would be tremendous.
	And even among the people who were happy, even among the white people who were happy with it, like the libs and stuff, it would just make them wash their hands of it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	You're going to talk about slavery?
	My friend, do you remember when you got $27,000 last year?
	Yeah.
	I don't want to hear about no goddamn slavery, no goddamn more.
	So what we should do is we should finish this segment, stop it, cut this episode, and then finish the second part of this episode and release it later on in the week.
	What do you say?
	No, totally.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Because this is a very good conversation I think we're having, and I don't want to have to cut any of it out.
	So let's finish this segment.
	Finish the episode there.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So, Tina M. Gladdening, you know, said, oh, the best way the American people can fight back is to refuse to watch the debates and watch Fox instead, which is just something we've talked about on this show a lot.
	It is the idea of politics as which channel you watch.
	It's the idea of doing politics by watching a certain channel on TV.
	It's also like me boycotting NFL by like still not watching football games.
	It took me no effort to boycott the NFL.
	They weren't going to watch this anyways.
	But now they're going to say we're not going to watch it first.
	Now you can feel even better about yourself for not watching it.
	But Richard Stucker has a different way the American people can fight back against the DNC for refusing to allow Fox News to host a debate, and that is CIVIL WAR!
	Exclamation point.
	Minions rule, dude.
	Hashtag, hashtag Minions Law.
	Minions Law.
	Minions Law comes again.
	Don't you feel it sometimes like, oh shit, man, they're going to start like it.
	They're just going to, how does it start?
	Does Richard just like walk out of his door armed and like, Richard's now on patrol.
	What's going on?
	How's that going to go down, Richard?
	He makes a bunch of posts calling for a civil war and then continues sitting in his chair, stroking his firearm, waiting for the libs to pound on the door.
	Like that's all that's going to happen.
	That's how Richard is going to fight his civil war.
	Matt Chaney says, we have to stop this BS.
	It's time for a revolution.
	Again.
	You're right.
	You're absolutely right, Matt.
	I think we have different revolutionaries in mind, but you're right.
	We do need to have revolutionaries.
	Imagine if Civil War II was fought between the RNC and the DNC.
	How embarrassing would that be?
	It'd be a real bummer.
	It'd be a real fuckin' bummer.
	Like, who would you fight for?
	Are they mailing it?
	Well, I have to see the uniforms first and then go from there.
	Yeah, um, I would definitely develop a case of bone spurs for that Civil War.
	A, cause, honestly, like, hot take.
	Um, but the real reason why I would have fought for North is because I look terrible in gray.
	I don't look, I look, wait, look at me in Navy right now.
	Yeah.
	I'm wearing, I look so goddamn good in Navy.
	Good luck.
	That's the, that's the, it had nothing to do with, you know, like I had a choice, but you know, mostly because of the uniform.
	That's why, that's how I'm going to pick.
	Did you know actually thousands of black people fought for the South?
	Like I might be from Southern California, but I'm playing for the Yankees tomorrow.
	Uh, and then Ron Grubis underneath Matt Cheney's call for revolution.
	Not as a reply to Matt Cheney, but just the next comment is from Ron Grubis who says, do you have any regrets?
	Some heavy shit, Ron.
	Do you understand life?
	Do you have any regrets?
	How do you not respond to that by like, wait, do you really want to know?
	Check your inbox.
	I love this question.
	I love this question just in general.
	It is a very Tommy Wiseau question.
	Do you have any secrets, Mark?
	Do you have any regrets?
	Do you have any secrets, Mark?
	and then ron not in a reply to his own comment but just another comment underneath says what has made you the happiest and matt was like uh this fucking comment getting so much love What's up, bro?
	Matt didn't even get tagged in this though.
	Like we don't know who Ron is talking to.
	We don't know what Ron is saying.
	It's just another comment that happened after Matt's comment.
	And I went to Ron Grubis' profile and, uh, Ron Grubis is a life coach.
	Ron Grub- Oh shit!
	Ron Grubis is a life coach.
	And, um, I don't know about you, but me personally, this is exactly the type of behavior I want to see from my life coach.
	You know, someone who's supposed to, like, help you organize your thoughts, and focus your energy, and perform at your most effective.
	Delivering, like, worn out platitudes in the wrong comment section.
	That's exactly what I want from somebody who's supposed to help me get my life in order.
	Somebody who goes to a QAnon Facebook post and is like, is the glass half full or half empty?
	It's a good question.
	Think about it though.
	Were you thinking about that before?
	I was just irate.
	I wasn't thinking about my own happiness and what makes me the happiest and if I have any regrets.
	I don't know, yelling at Tom Perez in a closed Facebook group makes me pretty fucking happy.
	It's probably the most validating relationship I have.
	In theory, there is an hourly rate we can pay Ron Grubis to be on the show, so maybe let's not shit on him too much?
	Dude, let's invite Ron onto the show to give us life advice.
	To coach us.
	Hey Ron, we got some articles to talk about.
	I just want your first takes.
	How would you coach these people through their lives?
	Anne A. Chevrier, the original poster, says, people, it's about censorship!
	The control of the media!
	Because a bunch of people were like, I don't give a shit.
	I don't want to watch that debate anyway.
	Fuck the DNC.
	She was like, no, it's about censorship, the control of the media.
	And then right under her is another comment from Judy St.
	George who says, there won't be a debate.
	Dems plus CNN equals Gitmo!
	so um this is you know this is like low-hanging fruit but i just love the idea that that ann chevrier was trying to concern troll about censorship and about like uh this this sort of like grip that mass media has on our politics and the way that certain ideas are promoted or erased from the national conversation uh thanks to cable news
	and thanks to our the sort of incestuous relationship that you know the corporate the corporations i.e the the DNC and the RNC have with the news media.
	And then right underneath, somebody's like, no, it's okay.
	We're going to throw the news in jail.
	We're going to, we're going to, we're going to kill the news.
	We're going to torture the news.
	And of course, you know, we're going to put bags over the news head and I take pictures of their genitalia.
	Yeah.
	Try, try reporting from a black site.
	Yeah, give that a shot.
	Oh, no reception?
	No shit.
	And then Renee Marie Collette says, she is such a beautiful baby.
	Congratulations to you and your family.
	Yeah, so I don't have much to say about that.
	I think it's a good comment.
	Is there like a Renee Marie Collette Robot is just going out there just putting out every profile every post is hoping they're gonna strike gold and like be like Yes, and you're the godmother.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Well, you're just not as familiar with Facebook because you never go on Facebook But this is um, you're not wrong and I'm sorry Renee Marie Collette is what we in the Facebook business call a gem She is a gem.
	A what?
	She is a gem.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	As in, please show to Jim.
	Ha.
	Ha.
	Oh, yep.
	Yep.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	How do I do this and not know that?
	A couple more.
	I don't know, dude.
	Plug in.
	Plug into Facebook.
	Should we save these last comments for the segue to the next episode?
	Uh, yeah.
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