This week it's a very personal episode of MDC as a guest tells us about her mother coming to the defense of a colorblind white guy on Amber's facebook page, depositing such pearls of wisdom as "good thing I didn't abort you," and "more white men died abolishing slavery than black men" In the second half of the show, we discuss the incredibly measured right wing response to New York's new abortion law, as facebook commenters worry that Andrew Cuomo is going to abort grandma.
It's now a performance piece, so... Hey, we're always performing.
True, true, true, true.
True.
Like, life is a stage, right?
I mean, when it's not a highway.
When it's not a highway or a house?
Life as, oh yeah, a house, yeah.
Well, you could, yeah, that's either a reference to the movie Life as a House or the band Lifehouse.
Lifehouse.
Oh, wow.
Lifehouse, that's taking it back.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's been hanging on a moment for a while.
Oh, I hate you.
Goddammit.
You thought we were on Minion Death Cult.
Actually, we're on that awful sound.
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It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
Stay tuned guys, we'll show you exactly what it looks like when we're going to go destroy the desert.
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I'm Alexander Edward.
And I'm Tony Boswell.
And we are Minion Death Cult.
The world is ending.
Andrew Cuomo, Governor of New York, and our guest Amber are responsible.
We're documenting it.
So, uh, it's our first week back from our two-week vacation, uh, and I just want to give ourselves credit for not denying content to the listener like we have in the past.
Yeah, good job on that.
Thank you for, uh, for satiating their needs.
Yeah, I mean, it took a couple clicks, which, uh, in the past I wasn't willing to do for the listener, uh, but, uh, these two weeks I was.
I think we've addressed it before, but I mean, Alex really does do all the work for the podcast, and that also means when things don't happen, it's still Alex's fault.
It's true.
It's a double-edged sword.
Responsibility.
It's a privilege and an onus.
So, this week we have a first-time guest.
Amber is joining the show.
How you doing, Amber?
I'm good.
How are you?
Very good.
I was going to say very well to shame you for saying good, but I didn't.
Well, thank you for sparing me.
Don't you like that when people are like, uh, hey, how are you?
And you're like, I'm good.
And they're like, and you say, you know, good and you, cause that's the automatic response.
And they say, oh, I'm well.
And you're like, okay, motherfucker.
You need to one-up me.
Yeah.
It's like the Tracy Jordan joke.
When he's like, Superman does good, you're doing well.
Yeah.
I love it.
And that's implying that I'm not Superman, so... okay.
Nor I, so...
I guess I gotta change your ringtone in my phone then because it just recycles through every Superman song.
Including that really good Superman song that has the black lesbian getting deleted from the music video so that the white girl can kiss a white man.
I don't even know this song.
That's deep cut awful sound right there.
That's a great episode of That Awful Sound.
I typed in Superman song and Crash Test Dummies came up.
No, it's Five for Fighting Superman.
Oh man.
The best name is wasted on that band.
That guy.
Yeah.
Is that a good name, you think?
Yeah, I think it's a good name.
It's a hockey reference.
Oh, right.
You get five minutes for fighting, which I guess is only good to people like hockey, like myself.
Five for Fighting just reminds me of an even lamer version of Family Force Five, that, like, Christian death pop group.
I'm sorry, death pop?
They're like, well, I omitted a word in there.
It was like hardcore pop punk.
So, easycore.
Easycore.
They're, like, not worthy of, like, the actual terms.
They're not worthy of me saying fucking three words to describe their genre.
You already said five words to say their name.
Yeah, but listen to that awful sound episode of Five for Fighting Superman.
It's an incredible music video.
Anyway, this is a different podcast.
This is Minion Death Cult, and if you're a new listener, hey, thanks for tuning in.
Today's episode is going to be slightly different than our normal episodes because we have Amber here to regale us with a tale of IRL minion death cultery.
From her own family.
That's going to be very interesting.
I just wanted to shout out Ian for leaving a review on iTunes.
A very wonderful review.
I'm going to read just a little bit of it.
This is titled, A Story You Should Know, so five stars.
A Story You Should Know from Ian.
Jeff Benoit, a man in our church, who has a friend who served on Minion Death Cult's podcast in Cali.
She called him to tell this story.
Last week, MDC appeared at the Thank You Banquet for their podcast staff, and we're going to table to table to shake hands with the 1,000 plus campaign volunteers.
They got to one lady, who by a brief comment she made indicated she was a Christian.
She was there with her 16-year-old son.
MDC asked him if he was a believer too.
He said he didn't think so.
MDC then asked, Do you mind if I tell you how I came to know Christ as my Savior?
The boy agreed and MDC pulled up a chair and witnessed him for 30 minutes and led him in the sinner's prayer.
And this goes on it's a heartwarming story about our work with the church and our work to to proselytize to edgy 16 year olds and convert them and you know this isn't something we would tell ourselves on the show it's not a story we you know it's it's it's not a story we would flaunt on the air ourselves, but we're grateful to Ian for spreading the truth about MDC.
And just so you guys know, MDC now stands for My Dude Christ, so welcome to the show.
This is actually about a show about My Dude Christ.
So MDC now has three official meanings.
Yes.
And yeah, speaking of cops, I just want to shout out Maroon 5 for actually burning an effigy of the president of the Policeman's Union on stage at the halftime of the Super Bowl.
Amazing stuff.
Yeah, that was amazing.
I thought it was weird that they decided to, like, They had that cartoon of just smashing Smurfs in a way to like protest blue lives.
That was pretty great.
Yeah, but then they played She Will Be Loved and dedicated it to unborn women.
That was also kind of weird.
Mixed messages.
Well, I don't know if you're referencing this, but there's like a real There's a real thing online amongst the incel groups that their dream girl has been aborted.
That's a whole thing.
Have you guys talked about this?
She would have thrown you a birthday party but mommy aborted you.
And made you sandwiches.
I just wish that they would accept that she's dead and move on.
The best part about the halftime show, though, is I love seeing everyone just throw their politics out the window once Adam Levine takes his fucking shirt off.
And all of a sudden we're like, NFL!
Let's run this!
I definitely, like, threw all my politics out the window when Maroon 5 did that Victoria's Secret, like, hour-long beach special.
But it was more in the sense that I just, like, became a nihilist and a Posadist.
Like, just nuke us, you know?
Just nuke us from orbit.
Accepting our fate.
Um, okay.
So let's get to this first topic, which is a very personal story from Amber's Facebook.
Um, and then after that, we'll go into the reaction that, uh, the right wing had to New York's new abortion law, which as far as I can tell, um, allows women to kill toddlers.
As long as they bring them to a doctor's office first.
So that's going to be interesting.
But no, Amber, so you had a real-life Minion Death Cult experience.
This is sort of a different thing for the show.
We've only really broached our personal Minion Death Cult anecdotes either in passing or sparsely.
So this is a wonderful thing to have you on.
Why don't you go ahead and tell us what you posted on Facebook and why it was so bad and wrong.
For sure, yeah.
So you guys should know that my family is Happy to oblige in terms of content for this show.
I cycle through periods of blocking and unblocking.
I unblock so that my family can still see pictures of my daughter because for the most part I use Facebook as like a fucking photo album.
But then I have to block again because they get wild.
That's all you need.
Just like, you know, a couple hours unblocked and you get your fill of your family and then you can go back to normal.
Yeah, that's how it goes.
I think it's just a way of enforcing boundaries, really.
I'm in charge of when I see your shit.
This is why Facebook needs levels of block.
They can only see pictures of kids, and that's it.
Yeah, you should be able to mute family members the way you can mute members of a Facebook group.
Yeah.
Well, basically what you posted was, um, remembering Martin Luther King for the the sort of radical person that he was and not just this whitewashed, um, what's the what's the word, platonic ideal of a nice black man?
Yeah.
Yeah, so my post was And I've seen a lot of the, you know, it's not original.
I've seen a lot of these posts.
It's just the idea of, you know, keeping the true legacy and memory of Martin Luther King alive.
And I feel like the story that tends to get, you know, passed on, especially like among white folks, is He he was just this endearing black guy who managed to just dodge all this hate and work with politicians and he ended racism forever.
Yeah he was nice enough that he was able to end racism.
Yeah yeah you know he was just so he was just so pleasing and he made racism and discussions of racism you know palatable for white people and And it's just not fucking true, you know?
I mean, Martin Luther King was hated.
He was so disliked.
He was radical.
And so I just made a post.
It wasn't really all that complicated.
It was just kind of addressing that.
Like, hey, while you're out there, you know, kind of Insincerely putting these quotes up.
Like, let's try to remember what he was really about.
And so, you know, alongside it, I post some pictures of Martin Luther King getting arrested.
And they're kind of brutal.
Like, he was not treated genderly.
And you can see, like, these white... I don't even think some of these guys are cops.
Like, these white guys, like, pushing his head down or kind of jamming him up against the counter.
It was brutal.
It was so easy to citizens arrest a black dude back then.
Yep.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, and by citizen's arrest, we mean like citizen murder?
Yeah.
Like those lynchings?
The real thing?
Yeah, you could citizen arrest, and then citizen try, and then citizen execute black people back then.
See, the good thing about Martin Luther King, though, is he had such a high profile by the end that they actually, the FBI had to kill him, rather than just having some random people do it on the street.
I mean, that's how you kind of know you won.
It's like getting five stars in Grand Theft Auto.
Right.
They could, they spent money on it.
So, all right.
So, you know, I kind of thought this one was safe.
I don't know what I was thinking.
So, this guy, who I don't know, he posted in response, there was and will always be hate.
You just can't fix it.
You just can't stop it.
Just live with it.
Get over it.
MLK, however, however, MLK was beloved by many people of many colors.
Wrong.
I already fucking don't like where this is going.
Yeah, it's already wrong.
And I already know where you're going.
MLK, I don't know the exact statistic, but MLK had like an unfavorability rating among white people in like the 60-70%.
Yeah, it was outrageous, yeah.
Like, more people came together to agree on hating MLK than, like, they can on taxes, you know?
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty good, you know, statistics in terms of politics.
Like, to have that many people dislike you, like, you can't get that many people to like you.
Like, that's actually pretty solid work in terms of Yeah, he could have won the presidential race in 2016 with an unfavorability rating like that.
So he was beloved by many people of many colors, which is why he was able to bring awareness and enable change.
So you have to be loved by everybody before you can bring change and that's why we have a celebrity president now.
You have to attain that status first and then try to change stuff.
Exactly.
You guys know that people who fought for social justice were never disliked.
No.
You know, they were always loved and adored, and that's how change happens, right?
There's no friction there at all.
That's why we need... People love protesters.
We need more Kylies and less Kaepernicks.
Yes!
More Kylies with Pepsis.
Yeah.
Yeah, the idea that... It's like a weird sort of...
Twist on the classic phrase, you know, like hindsight is like 2050.
You know, like, oh, just everybody who did good stuff back then was always good.
And anyone now who we don't think is good is just not good because that's all that matters is public opinion.
When like if you look at the civil rights era like all of that stuff happened in the face of negative public opinion.
It was only like the it was only the sight of like black people getting beaten and killed on the streets that forced politicians hands and you know the activism around those Those protests and those demonstrations that forced the hands of the politicians.
It wasn't, you know, as much as politicians would like to just sit and wait for things to become popular, they don't become popular on their own.
Yeah, exactly.
And that was, I mean, that's kind of the gist of, like, the argument here.
He goes on to tell me, don't bring shame on great people of humanity's history with contemporary ideology.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're the problem here.
Wow.
It's kind of offensive to call Martin Luther King a rabble rouser.
Please don't do that.
Don't do that on my podcast.
Can you not?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Also, I'm quoting him now.
Also, MLK didn't challenge white people.
In quotes, white people.
Well, race is a construct.
Yes.
Well, I think he's, you know, one of those colorblind guys.
Parentheses, many, many, quotes again, white people, participated in his activism.
Rather, in parentheses, rather he fought against injustice, oppression, and for equality and peace.
Cool, thanks, knew that.
Well, nonviolent movement may not always be the answer to oppression.
Making it about color of one's skin never is.
That's actually what got me, and that's kind of basically what I responded, was like, How fucking tone deaf of a response is this?
Real quick, you kind of skimmed over that your post was calling out white people.
Yes.
For just like, you started your post with the term, hey, white people, hey, white folks, chill on the whole, like, just, you know, using, like, don't forget about the real history here, because you called out white people.
That's true, I did directly address white people.
That's a big no-no.
You have to use our people's term which is people of light.
People of light, yes.
Yeah, so yeah, you literally said, oh white people.
Oh white people.
So you started with white people, so therefore, you're the racist here.
I don't know, you know, you should have known this, but you're like a self-hating, like.
Shit, I'm sorry guys.
It's pretty, pretty brutal.
This is my bad.
Yeah.
Alright, I see that now.
So yeah he's he's real mad about that.
I didn't realize he actually has a point here.
He's right like um non-violent activism is not always the answer.
Yeah I agree.
It's amazing in that like I I feel like We're kind of stating the obvious here, but I just can't get over how hilarious it is for a nation that's based around militarism, that's based around armed revolution, to suddenly give a shit about peaceful protest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, well, that kind of betrays the fact that you think you might be in the crosshairs.
I also love this guy's like, hey, like, stop calling out white people, but maybe let's start throwing Molotov cocktails.
Yeah, no, I can get behind that sentiment, for sure.
Especially if you... go ahead.
So this guy's calling out for your white hate, yeah.
Yeah, apparently.
So you clapped back at this dude, and then you got an even more unexpected response.
Yeah, so he kind of... I don't know how much you want me to... he kind of...
He goes on.
He was white guying it all over the place.
He was white manning it.
He really was.
He was like cis-whiting all over your whole post.
Just like, stop making fun of white people.
But you didn't realize he was rolling deep.
Yeah, well... He had shooters.
He had fucking shooters.
Shooters by which we mean your mom.
Yeah, okay.
So, hold on before we get to that.
So yeah, basically I came back at him like, you know, just what I said.
Coming onto this post, literally about whitewashing MLK's legacy and his actual history, and telling me not to make it about color, fucking tone deaf at best, and it was just kind of ridiculous because he was just like, really felt the need to like, mansplain Martin Luther King to me.
And so I just told him, fucking knock it off.
Like, you're being ridiculous.
Knock it off.
Get out of here.
I don't know you.
Don't be so close minded while claiming... Wait.
Yeah.
Don't be so close minded while claiming anyone who disagrees with you is.
It's always the fucking go-to.
That is the go-to that I come up against.
Like, always.
My calling out... Anyone's.
Anyone's calling out another person's, like, shittiness.
Mm-hmm.
You're immediately the racist.
You're immediately the asshole.
You're immediately the close-minded one because you refuse to accept another position, another point of view, which is always so funny because it's just like a special form of gaslighting.
Yeah, and racism is an opinion, and logically speaking, opinions can't be wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's, that's where they're coming from.
And yeah, it's, this is like, this is kind of like NPC meme mindset.
And I don't mean it's the mindset that the NPCs, the NPC meme is trying to mock.
I mean, it's the mindset that would create the NPC meme, which is that everybody else is an NPC except me.
Everybody else is closed minded except me.
Yeah.
And don't try to tell me anything different.
Because I will not listen.
Yeah.
Well, exactly.
That's exactly what goes on here.
So let's get to the boss fight here.
All right.
OK.
And this is after you shamed him, basically, by being like, look at this fucking guy, right?
This is how you found out about it?
I shut him down, right?
And I was like, I'm done.
And then he sends me a private message.
And he says, I have been advised, by who, who the fuck knows, that you delete Your publicly shared post.
My post.
So this is just the post that he's commenting on.
Yeah.
So originally, yeah.
So like to kind of like recap this.
I made a post.
This guy came on to my post with these comments.
I responded a few times.
Whatever.
It's Facebook.
It's public.
Like you were not invited.
So.
Yeah.
So then he sends me a private message.
He's been advised.
Don't go ahead.
I thought, from the messages you sent me, I thought you had posted another, like, call-out post of him that I didn't see.
I did.
Same!
Okay, yeah, yeah.
I did.
So this is what I'm getting to.
So he sent me this private message, and I'll just read it to you real quick.
It says, I've been advised to request that you delete your publicly shared post that reveals my personal information.
Gotta keep that, gotta keep that Facebook protected.
That name.
Gotta keep my, my Facebook identity.
Yeah, that's, I mean, that's like identity theft.
If you post someone's public comments.
Yeah.
That he posted?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's, that's like, that's like you're, you're doxing him for his public comments.
Well, that's exactly, yep.
And yeah, you're right on.
So, Uh, only reason I request this is due to how inaccurately and inappropriately you represent my position.
Um, would be happy to discuss our differences without resorting to doxing or public shaming.
I thought he wanted non-violence.
Right.
So I, of course, like, I screenshot that.
Make up your mind, dude.
And I post that.
And I think my caption was some fucking smart-ass thing.
Like, I said something like, oh, this guy's afraid that I'm going to share his name.
My favorite thing about this guy is that he's like, oh, you post it on Facebook so anyone can do what they want with it.
And so he's posting on Facebook by commenting on it, not realizing that, yeah, you can still do whatever you want with it.
Yeah.
And then also, I feel like if I had an interaction with somebody online and I felt like I was right about it and someone shared the interaction, I would be like, fuck yeah, show them how I owned you.
Yeah.
But obviously you know you're wrong.
I like how he's continuing to comment, just like, making his name even more clickable.
Like, now I don't have to type it into a search engine.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah, appreciate you.
Yeah, it was really funny.
So of course I posted that because, I don't know, I was feeling petty.
This show is all about pettiness, by the way.
We embrace pettiness.
I rarely do this on Facebook, but I was having a bit of fun.
What can I say?
And so his comment directly underneath that.
So again, making himself entirely accessible to anyone who's interested.
Like, doxing himself, I guess.
I mean, this is hardly equivalent to doxing, but... It's rough when you dox yourself.
Yeah.
That's inevitable for the MRA incel type.
Like, nobody else is going to dox you.
Sometimes you've got to do it yourself, you know?
Sometimes.
All right, let's, let me see where his, okay, so his comment directly underneath my screenshot of his direct message is, nice way to turn a shot at a reasonable discourse into social media sensationalism.
Like, he's highly overestimating my Facebook following, but whatever.
Just sounds like he was calling your post sensational.
I mean, his words, not mine, so.
Yeah.
That's definitely the way to come to a mutual understanding and not an attempt at public shaming.
Yeah, this is just somebody who, like, actually doesn't want, you know, it's gaslighting, like you said, it's somebody who doesn't want to actually engage in discussion, just wants to talk about having a discussion incessantly, you know, a Ben Shapiro type or whatever, and talk about logic, but not actually engage in the merits or the points of whatever issue you're discussing.
Right.
So the original Martin Luther King post is long gone by now.
Like, he's not interested in actually having, like, an intelligent or even... There's ways That I can be disagreed with that are still intelligent.
Plenty of them, you know?
But this wasn't it.
But also, it's not your fucking job to educate him, you know?
It's not your job to teach him.
He came on wanting to have a, quote, debate.
Good for him, you know?
Yeah, good for you.
You don't have to do that.
And do you owe him a mutual understanding just because he commented on your post?
I certainly fucking don't.
Wait, I commented on this.
We're supposed to come to an agreement now.
If that worked, then I think I would be maybe rich.
I'd just comment and all like the billionaires, be like, hey, maybe you should give me some money.
And then by the end of it, well, I'll get some money.
That's what politics is.
I could just show up on like, you know, a professor's Facebook and be like, hey, I've deemed that you owe me a discussion in an education right now.
Yep.
Like, come on.
Well, that's what politics is.
Like, politics is just browbeating your opponent into agreeing with you, you know?
Yeah.
It's just like, it's both parties agreeing to the same thing.
That's what politics is.
It's not like a fight against ideologies that are diametrically opposed to yours and trying to win power for your own side.
It's everybody has to agree.
So you don't have to agree.
I can just call you a piece of shit and that's fine.
That's what politics is.
I'm cool with that.
So what happened next?
Okay, so where it gets funny, where it gets interesting and more personal, is my mom steps in.
For whatever reason.
And what's most interesting about this is that my mom never, never once addressed the original post.
Like, I don't think my mom even has an opinion about the original post.
Yeah.
Maybe if I really got some time with my mom and sat her down, she'd probably fucking agree with me.
Also, I never even know if that's sincere because my mom tends to just, she's kind of a chameleon of sorts.
She sort of just is agreeable.
Yeah.
Like, by proximity.
Just real quick, as, this is going to be a little confusing, as the black son of a white mom, I will tell you that no one loves white men more than white moms.
Oh word.
So yeah, someone had to defend this white man.
And it was going to be your white mom.
Someone had to protect this white man from her daughter.
They just have that motherly instinct for specific people.
Exactly.
And not your children.
Like, she didn't step in for me.
Let's make that clear.
I think maybe it might be misleading because, like, a listener might think, like, oh, my mom stepped in, right?
Because, like, intuitively you'd be like, yeah, because your mom was, like, not gonna let this guy talk shit to you.
No, absolutely not.
My mom stepped in to defend this person.
Well, because it becomes... She doesn't know.
I'll let you give the gist of it, but basically it becomes about decorum and not the actual ideologies underpinning the issues.
It becomes about How nice you were to the people who oppose you.
I mean, this guy would obviously oppose you in any political setting, but you're somehow responsible for being nice to him.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, my mom, absolutely, like the undertone of all of her posts and grammatical errors, is tone policing, 100%.
It's an absolute distraction.
She's just like, you owe him.
It's easier to argue.
It's easier to argue, you know, just quote, be nice rather than, oh, this guy is perpetuating racism.
Yeah.
That's a harder thing to confront.
This guy and myself are possibly, you know, perpetuating racism and just talk about, like, the superficial values of having a nice Facebook interaction, which nobody really wants.
Like, you can go to specific Facebook groups for that if that's what you want, but the rest of Facebook is not for that.
Uh, yeah.
yeah okay i don't know how i could go for fucking days explaining my mom's personality which oh they'll they'll learn about your mom right now you guys are gonna learn about my mom okay yeah that's true that's absolutely true a quick a quick little mini history for context i Maintain a relationship with my mom because she is my mom and I love her dearly But my mother did not raise me.
I'm the oldest of seven.
We've all been raised in the foster care system Never once in my life have all seven of us been in the same room at the same time so Me making an effort to have this relationship with my mom is generous as fuck on my part.
Totally.
So I just want to put that out there.
So, um, okay.
So here we go.
My mom steps in.
She says, uh, it never surprises me that when you have an agenda, we can always count on you to post on Facebook, almost begging for some sort to make an example out of.
Otherwise, he wouldn't post on Facebook.
You really don't have to beg for white dudes to make an example out of themselves.
It's just kind of like our second nature.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
I'm a white man.
I think this post about Martin Luther King Jr.
is about me.
Of course it was.
The fact that this person happens to be white Make fits perfect-y, I go your self-serving agenda.
Which I kind of get an idea of what she's trying to say.
I understand what she's saying, but it still doesn't sound like a bad thing.
Yeah, exactly.
like she's saying oh you made this post to call out people and people presented themselves to you with their necks fully extended and it's like yeah okay that's that's good that's cool okay yeah that's fine like like for me like you have an agenda like yeah of course of course we all have agendas Yeah, correct.
It goes on, she says, I just see that you've dusted off your trusty soapbox again.
And I liked your response to that.
Yeah, well, if you know me at all, my response to that is, it stays dusted, Mom.
And that's really true.
If you know me at all, I'm vocal, I'm opinionated, I'm out there.
She does not shut up.
Plus, you're so gosh darn short, you need that soapbox.
That's also true, but whatever.
I've never seen you in real life, so I'm just guessing.
I don't know.
I mean in all fairness, I'm 5'2", so.
Okay.
So now we're switching platforms.
I've blocked my mom.
I was like, I've had enough of this.
Also, like, Side note, when my mom does this on Facebook, it's not just about it frustrating me and annoying me.
I actually have some weird maternal protective instincts.
She's fucking making herself look so bad.
She's always misspelling things or not quite understanding the words that she's using.
I'm not being an asshole.
I actually hate that she does this because I think it's...
I want to protect her against like literally what an asshole she looks like.
Your sweet sweet mom.
Sweet sweet mom.
Dude it's it's a weird thing but it exists like it actually exists like my mom it there she has a lot of intersections of shittiness too and she didn't get an education beyond middle school and She's so like fucking proud and like such an asshole that she doesn't know like what an idiot she looks like to the public and I'm just like no like even when she's an asshole to me I just like want to stop it like no stop like this sucks so hard for both of us.
Yeah so like me I'm like no dad don't wear that Fender guitar pork pie hat uh and you're like oh mom don't protect racists on my Facebook.
Please!
Like, for your own fucking sake.
Please.
Like, you're unemployable.
Like, you can't.
Oh my god.
Like, it sucks.
So, yeah.
I also question her fashion choices, so.
So you blocked her, so it stopped, right?
Right, yeah, totally.
It stopped because my mom doesn't have access to me outside of Facebook.
So of course I get a text, right?
Of course.
So the text is, wow, you're so unpredictable.
You talk about love and acceptance, but only when someone is agreeing with you.
Classic.
Same argument as the what's-his-fuck.
Yeah.
So much for the tolerant SJWs.
Exactly.
I mean, I'm confused here because I thought, like, you know, we have a whole museum dedicated to the idea of tolerance, and I always thought that was about, like, tolerating the Nazis.
That's what I always thought that museum was about.
And the Nazi apologists.
Yeah.
No, I'm calling your mom a Nazi.
That's fine.
I mean, I'm not even mad.
No, my mom's like almost fucking worse.
She's complicit, right?
Oh, no, I'm gonna go ahead and say she's not complicit.
She's not complicit.
She's helping.
She's not turning a blind eye.
She's like saying that you're wrong.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, she's an activist.
Give her some credit.
You're right.
Just because you don't have a platform doesn't mean you're not an activist.
Well, she did until you blocked her.
This is called direct action.
This is what direct action is.
It's something we advocate on this show a lot.
It's haranguing your daughter for arguing with a white stranger on Facebook.
Well, I guess I walked right into it, guys.
She continues.
Oh, I'm so happy every day that I chose not to abort you.
It sure makes life interesting.
Let's have a standing ovation for your mother's right to choose.
Like, honestly, she had me at this point.
I really so badly almost responded.
Like, are you kidding me right now?
But I didn't.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't.
Fun fact.
I'm quoting my mom here now.
Fun fact, guys.
More white men died in the Civil War to abolish slavery than any other.
Oh yeah!
Thought you might like to know.
Oh yeah!
Give me that shit.
Give me that shit.
Yeah, wait, where were all the black men that were coming to arms?
Oh, oh wait, one second.
Where were all the black men at the time?
Where were they?
Oh, strange.
Wait, only a select few were able to go serve?
Wait, what?
I love, that's like a classic right-wing meme is, oh, if you want to blame me for slavery, well, don't I get credit also for abolishing it?
yeah yeah it's like yes no no you're back to zero if you died to abolish slavery you're back to zero that's how that works that's like me saying like i'm not punching you right now yeah i just i decided to stop punching you where's my reward like yeah you're you're not for good boys you're not good now you're just neutral you're like you're like lawful neutral yeah yeah Okay.
Yeah, amazing stuff.
There's more.
We've got one last one.
Okay, please.
This one's beautiful, too.
Okay.
Just remember that in order to give you life, you had to crawl out of the white vagina.
Yes.
Amazing.
Yes.
And it still haunts you to this day, the fact that you, a white person, came out of a white vagina.
So much self-hate so much and like I told you I think that maybe your mom should probably get that check cuz like no vagina should actually be white You say hey listen like I don't want to tell you how to live your life or you know Tell you what to do with your body, but maybe you should get that checked out I've seen a lot of anime, that seems perfectly normal to me.
So that's why my tentacles are fine, right?
My tentacles, I can let them rock?
Oh yeah, you're cool.
you came out of me in a series of egg sacks.
Okay.
That's amazing.
Yeah, pretty solid work.
So, abortion, that's a great segue to our next topic, right?
Yes.
Speaking of abortion, yeah, let's go to our second topic of the night, which is New York's new abortion law, which, like I said, has conservatives either in What's the phrase I'm looking for?
Either in good faith or bad faith, saying that women are now legally able to abort a live baby?
a live newborn.
And this spin, this propaganda, wasn't helped by the fact that Governor Ralph Northam, a Democrat, a real lefty, as we all know, based on recent revelations in the as we all know, based on recent revelations in the news, a real leftist Ralph Northam, Ralph Blackface Northam, -
Went on a radio show because Virginia is adopting a similar law and went on the radio to say that if a baby is born then doctors and the mother can then decide what to do with it.
Which is factually incorrect and just one of the most wonderfully stupid things I've ever heard.
Okay, to get serious for a moment, the new New York abortion law, it's called the Reproductive Health Act, which is, you know, an appropriate name for it, because basically states have to enact their own Roe versus Wade laws in the face of an increasingly more conservative Supreme Court, and with full knowledge that this court will
Not defend Roe v. Wade at best and overturn it at worst at some point.
And so the states have to sort of launch their own laws to protect the rights of women.
And that's what this abortion law does with the caveat that abortions will be allowed after 24 weeks of gestation.
Once doctors have determined that either the fetus is unviable or the birthing process would endanger the mother's life or endanger the mother's health.
Yeah.
Previous to this, women who were past the 24-week mark would actually have to leave the state if their pregnancy was unviable.
Basically, if they're carrying around the remains of a fetus, they will never become a child.
They will have to continue carrying that fetus to birth, which is an extraordinary sort of emotional burden for – emotional and physical burden for a woman to undergo – They would have to, if they could afford it, spend thousands of dollars going to another state where terminating an unviable pregnancy past the 24-week mark was legal.
So this is a good law.
It will prevent emotional and physical turmoil and will not result in the murder of newborns in New York City.
And will actually save the lives of women.
Yeah.
There are women that will actually live now because of this.
Because believe it or not, uh, the United States of America has one of the highest rates of mother mortality.
Uh, they, women die giving birth all the time because of this exact thing in the United States.
So, yeah.
So like, this is, they're, they're saving lives here.
I have an article here from PolitiFact, the headline of which says, No, New York abortion law doesn't let mothers abort babies a minute before they would be born.
God.
Unfortunately.
And it says, yeah, Andrew Cuomo signed abortion legislation on January 22nd.
that says a health care practitioner may perform an abortion when, according to the practitioner's reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient's case, that the patient is within 24 weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, so from conception, or there is an absence of fetal viability or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health.
Previously, women in New York could only get abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy if their lives were threatened, according to Justin Flagg.
Under the new law, women can also get an abortion after 24 weeks if their health is threatened or if the fetus isn't viable.
And there's one quote I want to read here from abortion opponents.
do do do sorry I had this highlighted before I restarted my computer um um It basically says, the scaremongering tactic is that women will be able to get this health, this...
this procedure whenever they want now like that's that's the scare tactic is that women will just be able to walk up to a Walgreens and get an abortion and it's like you're really mistaken about the access to health care people have in this country if even if even if like abortion of any kind was legal up to the point of of birth uh that would by no means guarantee access to it or availability to it for women
I like the idea though of someone about to give birth and then just having panic from what they're about to experience and be like, no, no, no, I don't want anymore.
I don't want anymore.
And the doctor back, okay, cool.
And then that's it.
Yeah.
Abortion done.
Yeah, no worries.
The meme that they're citing that PolitiFact is fact-checking goes, If a healthy baby is born at 12.05... Oh no, sorry, that's the rebuttal.
I was born at 12.05, reads the text over a photo of a smiling infant.
In New York, it is perfectly legal to murder me at 1204.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yep.
And that's what we'll be getting into with these memes here.
Um...
The first one is from a page called Law and Prophets, which whenever I want a moral judgment, I always go to a page called Law and Prophets.
Yes, yes.
And they've posted a piece of art that's just amazing.
It is an artist's rendering of the Statue of Liberty holding a, I don't know, two-month-old baby with hair draped in an American flag.
The Statue of Liberty has thrown her torch of justice over her shoulder, like unlucky salt, and her hand is still extended into the air, and the face is definitely screaming, WHY?!
Yeah, it reads as total agony, absolutely.
She might as well be screaming, MENDOZA!
Well, the real reason is because this two-month baby is gigantic and is the baby from Honey, I Blew Up the Kids.
That baby is a star!
Was just running amok, just killing people on accident, crawling over people, smashing taxi cabs and whatnot.
So this is... And they had to take him out.
The baby's Godzilla.
Well, I was gonna say King Kong.
Like, the allegory at the end of King Kong is like... Be careful, I think this baby's black.
Oh.
Okay.
Alright.
That changes things.
Sorry, Godzilla for sure.
Godzilla for sure.
But it's definitely, like, t'was beauty that killed the beast.
And the beast is this two-month-old black baby.
And I have here a quote from the artist herself, because if you're looking at the Statue of Liberty, you know, in a harbor of some kind, you'll notice the skyline behind her looks a little different than the one we're all accustomed to seeing.
I did not even think about that.
And the quote goes, the Lord gave me this vision of liberty in travail over this baby a few years ago, but I did not have all the elements of it in my understanding enough to paint it until recently.
So like, like, so she didn't have Google?
No, well, I mean, Google for God is something we all need.
She had visions of Lady Liberty in agony and was like, what does this mean?
Please, please God, give me more.
Give me more of this.
I believed the Lord was saying I needed to paint it now.
As I began to do preliminary sketches, some new understanding dropped into my spirit.
I love that phrase.
Their inbox.
Their spiritual inbox.
Got it.
You've got divine intervention.
I knew Liberty was supposed to be in a city with a skyline behind her, but what city?
But for about a year, I had assumed it was to be New York like a fucking idiot.
As I was sketching on that first day, I was listening to Lou Angle on a CD explaining the reason he brought The Call, a solemn assembly of 24-hour prayer, to Detroit on 11-11-11.
Ayo, ayo, ayo.
She still listens to CDs.
What a loser.
Well, she has to fucking paint her memes.
I don't think she's up with the times that much.
Yeah, that's your burn, Tony?
Like, of everything you're seeing here.
No, that's a good burn.
That's a good own.
Yeah, it's called a... You probably wouldn't understand because you know you're a woman and all, but people don't listen to CDs anymore.
It's called a Zune, lady.
I don't understand.
I listened to the horrifying statistics on the number of black babies who were killed by abortion each year.
God damn, I just care so much about black people who don't exist yet.
And I suddenly knew Detroit was supposed to be in the background.
You know, the Detroit Harbor.
Yeah, that's why you can see MC5 playing in the background.
And then I understood that she held a tiny black baby in her arms.
And the word black is capitalized, so she's saying it with only the utmost respect.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Liberty is deep in travail, crying out for our American children's freedom.
Their freedom to live!
By the way, when I see live in all caps, it just automatically reads as live.
Live.
Live in Detroit!
It's Sunday morning.
Beginning in Detroit, and today also in New York.
Also, threw that in there.
Yeah, it's funny how this is like a reaction to the New York law, but God was like, hey, why don't we send everybody a mixed message?
Yeah.
Why don't we put Detroit in the background?
God, not so good with branding.
Not so good.
Yeah, so you'll probably see this meme on the Instagram.
You can go to MinionDeathCult on Instagram, and you'll see this painted meme.
Let's get to the one response I have to this post.
There weren't a lot of good responses, but this one just kind of makes up for all of them.
Oh, also, I wanted to say about this abortion law.
I find it fascinating that conservatives are freaking out about this abortion law because we've all been led to believe that a baby is a baby, no matter whether it's four weeks old or nine months old.
Abortion has always been murder, we're told by these people.
Why is this law any different?
Why is this law a shock to you?
Why is this law more abhorrent?
It's almost as if you recognize that there's a difference between a nine-month-old and a three-week-old fetus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's almost as if there's a difference there.
You're right.
It's very revealing.
I agree with that.
So the one response I have is from Evan Tate.
Evan Tate says, I am working on a short story right now about a fireman whose wife murders his child.
He proceeds to burn down the mill in the city.
So much more questions than answers.
Well, now we don't have to read it anymore, Evan.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks for that one.
Thanks for the synopsis.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like you said, you know, spoiler alert, Evan.
But I feel like maybe in the short story, it's just going to be about this chaotic fireman who's like doing the opposite of his job, which is already shocking enough, you know, starting fires.
That's called job security, actually.
Like, who would be in a better position to start fires but the people who know so much about them, you know?
Yeah.
True.
But maybe he structures the short story.
It's this crazy man who's just, you know, setting fire to the city for no reason.
And then the twist ending is you found out his wife exercised her reproductive freedoms.
And like, that's why he was so insane.
And you're like, oh my God, he was the good guy.
Oh my god, he was the good guy all along.
Oh yeah, the Shyamalan twist.
That concept, I love that.
It's just, you know, that idea where the man gets really mad that the woman has an abortion.
That's my kid you're killing, you know?
But the truth of the matter is, what they really meant was, that was my way to lock you down and have dinner waiting for me.
That's all that was, was my way to automatically domesticate you is now gone and you didn't even ask me for permission.
Or at least some sense of control over... Yeah, absolutely.
That should be a rule though.
Women should have the option to say, hey, either I'm going to abort this fetus or I'm going to sign the kid over to you and you have full rights.
I don't want anything to do with the kid anymore.
Now it's all you.
Now you're doing everything.
I get to walk away.
That should be the law.
Hashtag walk away.
Not only did you abort my child, you also aborted my only chance of attaining my dream of playing college football through my son.
Vicariously.
Yeah, of course.
I can't wait for the sequel to this when his new wife decides to keep her maiden name so he just kills the neighbor's dog.
That's giving him a lot of credit.
A sequel?
Well, he's, you know, you know, I mean, there's going to be a silver lining to all this arson, I think.
Yeah, absolutely.
OK, next meme, one of my favorites.
This was posted in the Trump Train Facebook group, not to be confused with Trump Train 2020 or Choo Choo Trump Train Choo Choo.
Carol Ann Chandler Hasselbalch says, This is the celebration cake the leftists had after winning abortion up to birth in New York just a few days ago.
So sad!
Sad faces.
Hey, leftist is with a capital L though.
I mean... Okay, put some respect on it.
Put some respect.
And the picture she posted was of a... I'm gonna be generous here and say a lifelike depiction of a newborn child in cake form that's being carved up by dinner guests.
The strangest thing about this cake isn't even the realistic looking saran wrapped baby cake.
It's what the fuck flavor is this cake?
Oh god.
The cake is like orange?
Yeah.
It looks like sweet potato?
Did you guys, did you look up like where this is actually from?
Is this like a gender reveal thing?
You have to cut open the baby to see whether it has ovaries or testes.
Oh god, how much do you want to bet this is a gender reveal?
What the fuck gender is?
Well, it's got pink filling, so it's a girl.
Yeah.
Oh, it's pink?
I mean, it's bad lighting, but... Oh, I think it's... Oh, okay.
That makes sense.
Yep.
That's probably what it is.
I would... I would honestly... Honestly, like, this is obviously, like, a baby shower cake.
I would legit rather eat some of that mommy's placenta than this cake.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know what's more disturbing, the baby cut up or the baby in plastic wrap.
Yeah, the baby in plastic wrap is pretty fucking wild.
It's gnarly.
I like how there's like, there's a sort of like series of photos.
It's like, it's like a four panel meme that shows the baby's life cycle, which goes from being wrapped in saran wrap to having its head carved in half and the rest of its body diced up in slices.
It's funny, this is actually when I had to go to the Guitar Center, and I was explaining to them a little bit about the show, and this is the one I pulled up to show them, like, oh, this is what we talk about.
And they were just like, man, this is fucked.
Like, the whole, like, this is fucking crazy.
I'm like, yeah, man, this is wild.
Can you imagine having, like, this much talent in cake making, and this is what you're doing with it?
Talent at all.
Like, you're obviously a sculptor, a painter, whatever.
You have this much talent, this is what you're doing.
Yeah, maybe this sculptor could never have a child of their own, so they put all their love into the newborn fetus cake.
Cake makers are fucked, you know?
I'm just starting to notice a pattern here.
There's that cake guy who refused to make a cake for the gay couple.
I feel like there's a thing happening here.
Cake makers are kind of fucked.
Yeah, well, this is obviously a stray bee and not a gay bee.
So they were able to make the cake.
And people in the comment section were like, you know, mostly swallowing this whole cloth, which I think is a mixed metaphor.
But, you know, they were like, oh my God, this is horrible.
I can't believe that, like, Andrew Cuomo cut up a baby to commemorate the passing of this abortion law.
But a few random people were like, this is obviously fake.
Even in the Trump train group, a good 5% of the comments were like, hey, this is obvious to anybody with half a brain like this baby.
It's not real, you know?
And Carol Ann Chandler Hasselbeck, replies, NOT FAKE NEWS!
A REAL CAKE!
Yes, all caps.
If this cake wasn't real, how would I get this picture?
So, like, contrary to popular belief, the cake isn't a lie.
The cake is real.
And then Loretta Cornell replies, I say, let's kill the mother, save the baby.
So there you go.
Again, like, cool.
So you're volunteering to raise this kid, right?
Yeah.
You're volunteering to make sure this child has a good life?
Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Like we know we I mean I'm glad that Loretta just like admitted to this like we know that this is the right wing position no matter how much they try to spin it.
They would much rather have you know the mother die with the off chance that the baby survives and I think to mainstream Americans that's not a tenable position.
That's not most people's opinion.
I think most people Well, most people I think are in favor of abortion rights in general, but especially if the mother's life is in danger, that's, you know, that shoots up.
There are still pieces of shit like Loretta and people on the right who still think that's unacceptable.
But I think most people, most Americans, would disagree with Loretta.
Fucking Loretta doesn't even agree with Loretta because, like, if her daughter were in this situation, You know, she would absolutely be choosing her daughter over, like, a baby who's not viable.
Well, of course she would.
Well, I don't know.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like, she doesn't even agree with herself.
Just because Loretta's... If pressed on it, if she were in, like, this real-life situation... I mean, that is... Just because Loretta's daughter crawled out of her wife's vagina does not make her obligated to agree with her daughter.
True.
But yeah, no, it's the conservative ethos of unless it happens to me, I don't give a shit about it.
Yeah, true.
Okay, let's get to the final meme of this topic, which is not a meme, but instead it's word art on Facebook from Stephanie Scruggs.
Stephanie Scruggs says, with a vivid red background, if a baby can be killed because of inconvenience, it won't be long before grandma can be killed for the same reason!
Hashtag pro-life.
Cool.
Okay.
Cool.
Run it.
I mean, like, fetuses, feti and grandma is like the whole platform of the Republican Party, right?
Yeah.
Grandmas and fetuses.
Those are like the two demographics that hold sway over their party.
Did you just use feti as a plural?
There was a question mark after that.
I don't know if that's correct.
I don't know either.
It is now.
Okay.
I'll go with it.
Yeah, if a baby can be killed because of inconvenience, it won't be long before grandma can be killed because of incontinence.
This meme, this post had 65.5 thousand shares.
Jesus Christ.
On Facebook.
Wow.
Just like- Oh, my mom's probably one of them.
Just like grandmas shaking in their house slippers about being aborted in the 5,000th trimester.
They're gonna pull the plug and it's like, you're not connected to anything.
What are you talking about?
It's fine.
Like how little of an opinion, how bad of a relationship do you have to have with your kids to be worried about being aborted at 85?
Yeah, I mean, I might be able to speak to that.
OK, well, remember, this is a public podcast, so next time your mom comes over for dinner, she's going to insist you eat off her plate, too.
I need to make sure we're good.
Let's get into comments from this amazing post.
Stella Lohman says, Remember Sarah Palin warned Obamacare called for death panels...health care providers that could withhold treatments according to age or extent of illness?
Here you go!
I haven't heard death panels in a while.
It's kind of nostalgic.
It's kind of nice to hear it again.
Yeah, and I love this idea that like, oh, only now that Trump is in office and has removed the mandatory insurance for people with pre-existing conditions, now healthcare providers can withhold treatments according to age or extent of illness.
Imagine that.
Imagine if we had a health care system that was in the hands of private insurance companies and private health care providers that could decide to withhold treatment based on your previous illnesses.
Imagine.
Just close your eyes.
Yeah.
For too long, because someone might think you're dead.
Then you're gone.
Fran VanCookian.
The oldest name I've seen.
Maybe ever.
She's the oldest, I can tell.
Fran is short for nothing.
Fran is just the name.
Fran.
Just Fran.
Just Fran.
She says, what do you think the pharma has been doing for years through prescriptions on seniors?
Everything you take anymore can kill you instead of heal.
Well, I don't know, Fran.
I don't know if you've heard of these things called essential oils.
They're much more beneficial than what big pharma is trying to sell you.
No, the pharma.
The pharma.
Where are the great chemists anymore?
Most genetics come from either India or China.
Does that make you feel safe or healthy?
Don't think so.
Not me!
Where did all the chemists go?
Wow.
She's actually not wrong, because most genetics come from either India or China.
Yes, those are the two most popular countries.
Yeah, those are very populist, yeah.
There's a lot of genetics in those countries.
A lot of genetics.
A whole lot of folks, a whole lot of genes.
I love, like, Fran.
Man, I hope there's more of Fran.
Just people scared to go to the doctor because their doctor is, like, Asian or East Indian.
And just, yeah, just dying at home out of fear of, like, malpractice from their brown doctor.
Fran just misses the good old days when they used to prescribe drugs that actually had a kick to it, you know, like heroin.
Well, that's actually what's kind of funny about her comment here, because she's not wrong about the fact that, like, everything you take anymore can kill you instead of heal.
Like, in the sense that prescription drugs are mostly garbage and kind of, like, they're shit for us, like opioids, and, like, that's kind of what I'm thinking about.
She's not wrong there.
But she's absolutely like, she's not taking it there.
She's not taking it to like, oh, we have an epidemic of opioids and that's a crisis.
Yeah, that's not the point you're making there.
Absolutely not.
No, she's like, no, these brown doctors are poisoning me.
Yeah.
And the opioid epidemic doesn't exist just because opioids exist.
It's because pharmaceutical companies deliberately target at-risk individuals and over-prescribe and get people hooked on opioids.
Not that opioids don't serve a purpose, um, a valuable purpose for people in chronic pain or whatever, um, but this is just like, you know, God forbid Fran doesn't get her fucking Medicare one month, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah.
She's very quick to call out the pharmaceutical industry, not for their profiteering on the misery of others, but for just prescribing stuff and hiring people of different ethnicities.
Yeah.
Uh, and then, okay, so Wentworth Kindred.
God, some amazing names in this episode.
Wentworth Kindred says, Grandpa too, this world is not fighting evil like it should.
And then let me get to this other one real quick.
Don't forget about the men.
I'm sure it would.
And then Jim Ferguson says, I'm sure it would be grandpa first, the way Marxist media puts down the stale male pales or stale pale males.
I fucking love that so much.
I can't wait to use that.
This is the most woke shit ever, is like aggrieved white people inventing slurs against themselves that nobody else has used.
Yep, yep.
Oh man, I really love it.
But yeah, this overall sentiment, because of course the original post says it won't be long before Grandma can be killed for the same reason, and Wentworth and Jim weren't content to let Grandma suffer.
No, it has to be Grandpa too!
What about Grandpa's suffering?
Grandpa gets to suffer as well, right?
Dudes, and white people, and especially white dudes, want so badly to be oppressed.
Like, so fucking badly.
I want to see the comment that's like, but what about the men who'd have no lineage?
What about the men that have no children or grandchildren?
What about the lonely men?
They're gonna take us out first.
I mean, yeah, I think that that's one of the reasons Evan's character burned down the fucking city was because he won't have, you know, somebody to pass down his speedboat to.
I'll never be a grandpa.
Nina Smith Lenartz says, I'm a grandma?
Did you think before you posted such a comparison?
I'm like way smarter than a baby.
I get it's wrong, but some things aren't right.
Like your comparison.
And my grandparents are dead, so let's not go there.
Don't talk about killing my dead grandparents.
You know grandparents can actually die?
How dare you compare them to other things that can not be brought to a viable birth.
I'm legit confused on what side she's on here.
Well, this is, this is the decorum argument.
This is the decorum argument from the center.
It's like, while I, I, I'm not going to engage in your actual point or your ideology, but could you phrase it a little differently?
Let's not bring grandmas onto this.
Like they can't even have abortions anymore.
Grandma, how, how you're posting this on Facebook.
How are grandmas supposed to defend themselves?
Oh, wait.
Never mind.
It's like, this is the perfect place for grandmas.
Well, she is a grandma, so she's proving your point.
Yeah, I like this.
I love this comparison.
Just like, yeah, you know grandmas actually die, right?
Like, you know they also die.
Roger Chifalo.
I'm not mispronouncing that.
It's spelled like a combination of chief and buffalo.
Roger Chiefalo says, when will it be legal to get rid of brain dead democratic politician geezers in Washington?
And Margaret Taylor replies, that should come first.
Happy face.
Before we kill grandmas, let's pass a law where we get to kill old Democrats.
Yeah, I mean, you're totally, like, betraying this idea of the sanctity of life and unborn life when you're, like, advocating for the murder of adults in Congress, you know?
Isn't that, like, now assassination?
Isn't that what that is now?
Yeah, I think that's what they call it.
What did you call it?
assassination oh yeah yeah yeah well just like like it's you know you're not you're not playing the game here roger you're like you're not playing the game of we're so shocked about quote murder of unborn children because you're advocating for murder in you know in the comment section here yeah
Larry King, who is this person's real name, uh... I'm going to say it, and I don't care who I offend.
Watch out.
Any woman who wants to have an abortion should have a mandatory hysterectomy.
Out of their own pocket, no matter the age.
And any man that does not want children should have a mandatory vasectomy out of their pocket no matter the age.
Hashtag abortion is wrong.
Hashtag all lives matter.
hashtag life at conception. - Or we could just use birth control and like decide when we want to have children.
No, that's also bad.
That's also bad.
What I also like about this is that Larry doesn't realize that if a woman who is still fertile and of a certain age, I would say under 45 or under 40, were to go into a doctor's office and request a hysterectomy because they don't want to have a baby.
Dude, it's a nightmare.
They would have to go through hell to make that hysterectomy happen.
They would have to get a fucking signed paper from their husband.
Basically.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
They would have to get married.
Get a husband.
Get that signed paper.
I would need a marriage of convenience in order to get a hysterectomy.
Or get my tubes tied.
If you ever need a hysterectomy, I'll totally marry you and we can make this happen.
It's cool.
I'll sign the document.
I got your back.
I got your back.
I think there might be some tax benefits involved with that.
Hey, run it.
But yeah, that's so fucking ridiculous.
People just have no clue.
I think if we see all these women out protesting for abortion rights, acting all hysterical, I think they should get hysterectomies.
Oh, that makes sense.
Also, you don't need a hysterectomy to not have children.
You can get your tubes tied.
That's so gnarly.
It's so gnarly.
Just scoop her out.
Also, vasectomies are reversible.
They're outpatient procedure, unlike a hysterectomy or even getting your tube site, which are un-reversible.
Actually, I'm not sure about the tube site thing.
They're basically un-reversible.
Okay, I'm not positive on that, but I know it's not nearly as reversible as...
Not all vasectomies can be reversed.
There is a chance that it doesn't go back, right?
But it's more likely for you not to be able to get your tubes untied.
Yeah.
Which is the technical term.
Can you untie these?
Sorry, we double knotted those.
Those are not coming undone.
Yeah, there's like a kink in them now.
Sorry.
But the point is, it's such a much more invasive procedure for women, and also so much harder to get.
Yeah, so much harder.
And this kind of correlates with the abortion thing too.
Women are not trusted to make those decisions about their body.
Yes.
It's like, you can't fucking do it.
You don't have the brain capacity to decide if you want children or not want children, or if you're going to want them in the future.
And it's interesting that this comment kind of dips right into that like larger theme here.
Yeah well I'm could coincidentally I'm writing a short story uh about a man who starved his children because his wife got her tubes tied.
That makes sense.
She she went to like an illegal black market doctor and killed her tubes without my permission.
Yeah she killed her tubes.
Well you don't want any more children you don't want these ones either.
Oh, right, okay.
Yeah, that logic checks out.
This argument is so... I mean, we don't have to say it.
It's obviously insane, but it's just... It's not even about being offensive.
He says, I don't care who I offend.
This is just a totally monstrous, unpalatable thing for someone to say in public.
For someone to say that I can see...
I don't believe in a woman's right to manage her own reproductive system or processes so much that we're going to have state-mandated hysterectomies that come out of her pocket.
We're going to give her a wild surgical procedure and then lock her up for not being able to afford it.
Yes, and then fine her, yeah.
And that's already, you know, you still got to pay for the abortion.
So this is, no one, no one can afford this.
This is, this is bad.
And then finally, let's end on a lighter note here.
Rita Heligers says about the original post, true.
Please quote fix the miss dash spelled inconvenience apostrophe so I can share.
Smiley face.
Rita, you are perfect.
You are so pure and wonderful and I love you.
Except that you want to share these awful fucking sentiments.
Yeah, but only if it's correct grammar.
Maybe she's a teacher.
Because inconvenience is spelled inconvenice in the original post and Rita has a real problem with that.
She has a reputation to uphold, guys.
No, it's just that Rita's friends and followers are so stupid they would have no clue what inconvenience could possibly be.
Okay, that's the episode.
Hey, thanks so much, Amber, for doing the episode.
Yeah, of course.
Thanks for having me.
Check out her page.
It's Eye Rolls and Blood Lusts.
Yep.
It's so funny.
And also, like, beautiful.
Really tastefully done.
Like, lots of good graphic design done by you and also not by you.
But you have good taste, so search it out.
In my day job, I'm a graphic designer, so this is kind of my outlet.
But also, I tend to follow people who make beautiful work and who are also activists, so it works out.
Cool, well thanks again.
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