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July 16, 2018 - Minion Death Cult

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58 - Pod Save the Queen

The world is ending. PC Pizza Traitors and Un-decorous anti-monarchists are responsible. We're documenting it. Papa John goes to racial sensitivity training and promptly says the N word. Trump goes to England and befouls the queen with his impertinent walking style. Libs are furious.

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	The liberals are destroying California, and conservative humor gone awry... Conservative humor gone awry is going to fascistphonia today.
	So stay tuned, we're going to take a few pictures of the desert and how their policies are actually messing it up.
	It's not beautiful when you go across that border.
	But stay tuned, guys, and we'll show you exactly what, uh... We'll show you exactly what it looks like when, uh...
	All right.
	I'm Alexander Edward.
	And I'm Tony Boswell.
	And we are Minion Death Cult.
	Awkward pause.
	The world is ending.
	PC pizza traders and undecorous anti-monarchists are responsible.
	We're documenting it.
	We have a very fun show for you folks today.
	Even if half of it is leftovers from the bonus episode, but as we all know, pizza tastes better when it's leftover.
	It's true.
	Sometimes cold in the morning.
	Yeah.
	So, uh, we also, this is also a fun episode because we have a special guest today.
	We have Ben Yuchaden from the Unpopular Front Podcast joining us today.
	How you doing, Ben?
	Oh, pretty good.
	You almost got the name right.
	You got the first part right, but then you switched up two other parts.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	I anorexed it.
	It's okay.
	There's no problem with that.
	Ben Yuchaden.
	Ben Yuchaden.
	Hi, thank you so much guys for having me on.
	This is very nice.
	Thank you so much.
	Absolutely.
	We are both, all three of us, as a matter of fact, in the Street Fight Podcast Facebook group.
	The Street Fighters Facebook group.
	So, shout out to Street Fight Podcast, of course.
	Brett and Brian, those wonderful boys.
	Great show.
	Almost equally importantly, shout out to the Street Fighters Facebook group.
	Absolutely.
	It's a good Facebook group.
	I've been a member of a few different podcast Facebook groups in my day.
	A lot of them are either just boring or just really reactionary.
	So it's nice.
	It's a good bunch of people.
	Yeah, I mean, I run two separate Facebook groups, four podcasts, and Street Fighters is my third favorite.
	Yep.
	There you go.
	It's a great leftist space.
	I'm in like 30 different leftist Facebook groups, and they're all good to great at varying degrees, but Street Fighters is definitely the best of all those, hands down.
	For sure, for sure.
	So, yeah, go ahead.
	Go on.
	No, no, no.
	Go on.
	Yeah, so, uh, you are on Twitter, at Ben Udashen, this time U-D-A-S-H-E-N, and you host the Unpopular Front podcast, which, like I said, I enjoyed, and I listened to the Elon Musk episode, and I enjoyed it so much that I started reading the Culture series.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, cool!
	Yeah, the Culture Series is a great science fiction series, like, especially if you're, like, a socialist or an anarchist, because it's like...
	It's, I don't know, it imagines a world beyond capitalism and it's also just like bizarre and psychedelic and there's like tons of really good violence so how could you not like that?
	Good sex and violence and sort of like techno-futurism that's pretty cool.
	So today, uh, we're talking just about two, uh, two amazing topics.
	Just, uh, great, great stuff.
	Uh, the first one that I alluded to being, uh, Papa John getting his ass fired.
	Yep.
	And it's, it's a real, real shame to see him go, uh, being I think the only good pizza man left.
	He was, he was the last of the good pizza boys.
	He, uh, he obviously wanted to protect children, and you're like, how, you know, how, how do you know that?
	And first of all, no basements in, uh, in Papa John's pizza parlors.
	That's a fact.
	Second of all, denied his employees healthcare.
	Specifically for the purpose of keeping kids out of one-on-one encounters with physicians, where they are extremely at risk?
	That was hard to do, because you know he wanted to do what society was telling him was the right thing, but he had to think about the sanctity of the child, which is really the way we come down to things.
	I like that.
	We all know what society thinks the right thing is, you know what I'm saying?
	And it makes me sick.
	And the second thing we're going to be talking about is Trump's trip to Europe, the UK most specifically, and just the wild reactions across the board to that visit, including the big ol' baby balloon, which is like dumb but kind of funny in my mind.
	We'll get to that in the second half of this show.
	Let's just go through this story, this Papa John's story.
	So this guy's name is actually John Schnatter.
	More like John Schmammered.
	It's a classic Sicilian name, you know?
	There's the Corleones and the Schnatters.
	The Shnatters.
	Shnatter sounds like an onomatopoeia for the sound your teeth make when you get curb stomped for snitching on your family.
	I'd go by Papa John too.
	That's how it happened at Ellis Island.
	Okay, so John Schnatter, I'm reading from CNN here, John Schnatter, the founder and public face of Papa John's Pizza, what a face it is, resigned as the company's chairman hours after he apologized for using the n-word on a conference call in May.
	I love the way that this sentence is phrased because it makes it sound like he had to resign for apologizing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah!
	We need someone with a spine that's gonna stand by what he says.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Schnatter had apologized earlier in the day after Forbes reported that he used the racial slur while participating in a role-playing exercise designed to prevent public relations crises.
	It wasn't like, hey guys, I probably shouldn't say that word, right?
	He just said it in an amazing example.
	It's like they're doing improv games.
	Like, you know, like, think of an occupation.
	Think of a race.
	The conference call literally is on the subject of preventing public relations crises and the first thing this dude does is drop the n-word.
	He's like, no, this isn't a public conference call.
	This doesn't apply to the subject.
	It would be like bringing your mistress to marriage counseling.
	Yeah.
	Like, I can't imagine a bigger self-own than this.
	Well, Doc, I just wanted you to see what I was up against.
	I mean, can you blame me?
	Can you see the stems on this one?
	It's like such a Mayor Quimby or Krusty the Clown thing.
	Like, okay, let me read the quote here.
	Maybe that'll elucidate.
	Colonel Sanders called Blacks N-words, he said.
	But it's like, N dash dash dash dash dash S. Complaining that Sanders had never received backlash, according to Forbes.
	The parent company of KFC did not immediately answer a request for comment.
	I mean... I mean...
	It is true, though, that I think for a certain kind of lib, they do associate Bernie Sanders with racism more than they do Colonel Sanders.
	Growing up in the South, I'm from Dallas, we always had the assumption that KFC was super racist.
	So, I don't know where this is coming from.
	Well, we learned the other day that KFC isn't even from Kentucky.
	Where's it from?
	Like, Utah or something?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Was you saying Wild?
	Yeah, it's just a big racist lie.
	I love the idea of...
	Fucking, uh, Papa John dropping KFC.
	Oh, well, they say the N-word all the time.
	And so what does the media do?
	They contact KFC for a response.
	KFC did not immediately answer a request for comment.
	Like, thanks.
	Thanks a lot, Papa John, for involving us in this.
	They got nervous because they thought they just were talking about Adam Carolla for a second.
	Because isn't he one of the Colonel Sanders now?
	Oh shit is he?
	Just like scraping the bottom of that barrel.
	They have like several versions of Colonel Sanders.
	One is non-binary apparently.
	Really?
	Good on them, I guess?
	That's just the joke they make when you see a woman in a mustache.
	It's a terrible joke.
	Oh, God, never mind.
	Yeah, they pulled those Chris Hardwick KFC commercials real quick.
	Oh, was he?
	No.
	Really?
	Yeah, they were going through all the podcasts.
	Scott's soccer mom did a Colonel Sanders impression.
	Yeah, sure.
	Marin.
	I mean, Maryknoll already has the facial hair, so he's good to go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	He's got the facial hair, the soft racism.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Forbes also reported that Schnatter recalled growing up in Indiana where he said people used to drag black people from their trucks until they died.
	Forbes reported that Schnatter's comments were intended to demonstrate his stance against racism, but that people on the call were offended by them.
	I mean, the quote was taken drastically out of context.
	Schnatter was saying, listen, I'm from Indiana.
	They used to drag black people from the back of trucks until they died.
	This country was built on the back of the slavery of niggers.
	Oh, God.
	I love, like, him trying to explain that he's not racist by saying that he's from a place that dragged and lynched people.
	Like, this is somehow supposed to be evidence that he's not racist?
	Yeah.
	Like, no, I saw that growing up, and I was like, ooh, that's bad.
	I don't like that.
	He's like, they don't do it to anybody else, so there must be a reason.
	It's like how, you know, your dad is really into Motley Crue and you're like, never gonna listen to that band.
	Ever.
	Just like, God, stop dragging black people, Dad, you're embarrassing me.
	And your heart is just broken when you get really into, um, fuck, what was Tommy Lee's band in the late 90s?
	Methods of Mayhem?
	When you got really into Methods of Mayhem and you were like, no!
	You realized the history, yeah.
	I am my father's son!
	You got really into Ron Paul, and then you realize, NO!
	He's just like my dad!
	Yeah, exactly.
	He also loves racist cartoons.
	Yeah, pfft, fuck.
	That cartoon, that, uh...
	That cartoon rule is so much.
	Oh my god, that was insane.
	The thing is, when I saw that as a Jewish communist, I was proud of it.
	It's like, look, we're helping everyone work together.
	To kill the white man, you know?
	You know, like finally you're referring to.
	So for people who haven't seen it, it's a it's a political cartoon where like this sort of anthropomorphic communist flag shaped like a fist is like uppercutting Uncle Sam.
	And then sort of attached to that flag are like the four pillars of cultural Marxism, which is like, you know, the Jew, the black, the gay and then the soy boy or whatever.
	And the thing is, is like.
	That was actually a communist comic, I think, and 4chan just edited those right-wing face memes, like the happy merchant and shit, over the pre-existing actual wholesome communist uppercut.
	Yeah, there's like a buck or two Chinese man in it.
	It's ridiculous in 2018, you know?
	Yeah, and fucking Ron Paul tweeted it out.
	That's why we're talking about it.
	He just loves the Constitution.
	Again, this quote, Colonel Sanders called blacks N-words.
	Like, also, blacks?
	Again, just like, don't think he's allowed to say that anymore.
	Should have to say B-word.
	Not be allowed to say that.
	The tiptoe around the word that I love so much.
	I mean, like, although when I... I understand that they don't want to type because, like, when I said it earlier, my eyes crossed.
	It was crazy.
	But, yeah, the way they dance around saying the word... Oh, that's in the next passage, yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's... Do we finish the one before that?
	Uh, we finished the small paragraph before the paragraph.
	Okay, yeah.
	This is from USA Today, right?
	This next one, the one you got, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Uh, it says, uh, this isn't how they just don't want to say it.
	Asked how he would distance himself from racist groups online, Schnatter was quoted as saying that Colonel Harlan Sanders had referred to blacks using the n-word, but Kentucky Fried Chicken found it was never faced backlash.
	But instead of saying n-word, Schnatter used the offensive word.
	You know that offensive one?
	What if they're just like, but instead of saying the n-word, shnaddicap it 100.
	Yeah, no, they're definitely, like, sensing their own place in this story.
	They're like, let's not become part of this story.
	Let's just be vague to the point of confusion.
	Yeah, we just know it was a bad move.
	Not good.
	So the reason he says, Colonel Sanders called blacks, which again is this like Krusty the Clown thing of like, you know, Colonel Sanders called blacks, and words!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh shit, I said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud.
	It's a response to them saying, how would you distance yourself from right-wing online groups?
	He was saying, I don't have to.
	Yeah, why do I have to?
	He's complaining about this shit.
	And that's why he said it's not role-playing.
	He's not role-playing a racist.
	Like it's he's complaining about how he has to undergo sensitivity training when, uh, Colonel Harland Sanders never did.
	Yeah.
	Literally just like whining, just whining about it.
	And what this is, what this, uh, you know, racial sensitivity training was a response to was because Papa John's became the pizza of the alt-right.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Do you remember this, Ben?
	The NFL thing?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, he was, like, he was, like, complaining about slumping pizza sales and blamed the NFL for not cracking down on Black Lives Matter protests enough, and so, like, Stormfront was like, fuck yeah, finally a pizza for us.
	It's like when the- Go ahead.
	This happened with New Balances, too, right?
	Like, the alt, right, will just, like, find, like, a brand that does something, and then they'll just swarm on it because, like, they need some, like, cultural validation.
	Yeah.
	The irony is they'd be safe with almost any brand in America.
	Exactly!
	The only problem was they didn't really actually like the pizza because the garlic sauce that came with it was too spicy.
	And then so this sort of, what do you call it?
	This episode recalled another episode in American history that you brought, you brought to my attention.
	You know, you brought to my attention the fact that this was, uh, this reminded a lot of people of another, another part of American history.
	Yeah, people kept on going, oh, you know, he should have learned from the, you know, from the canaries in the coal mines.
	He should have learned from Paula Deen.
	Remember when Paula Deen was, like, on a batch of the erasers a few years ago?
	Oh, yeah.
	It was in 2007.
	So I remembered it, but I didn't really remember what... I think she said something real bad.
	I didn't realize what it was.
	And just to refresh everyone's memory, in 2007, she asked Lisa T. Jackson, who was a baker, to make her a cake for a wedding.
	And among the requests, things were pretty crazy.
	A former employee of Dean Food Empire is suing Dean and her brother Earl, quote, Bubba, hires, charging racial and sexual harassment.
	Lisa T. Jackson claims, among other unsavory things, Dean wanted her design a, quote, plantation-style wedding for Bubba, which is already bad, which would ideally include, quote, a bunch of little niggers in bow ties to act as servers, like the ones that used a bunch of little niggers in bow ties to act as servers, like the ones that used to, quote, tap dance around in Holy shit.
	Did you know that, uh, Texas is currently rewriting all the, uh, all the textbooks to describe the Jim Crow era as Shirley Temple days?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was going to say.
	I feel like Shirley Temple Days is not a broad enough time period.
	It's just like a few years in the 30s.
	This is how the South was for ages.
	Shirley Temple Days only refers to the Prohibition era.
	Right, yeah.
	When it was cool to be really racist but also Prohibition.
	Yeah.
	So everybody was like, oh no, you should have learned from Paula Deen, who by the way, is currently still worth $14 million.
	Like, she's fine.
	She had a little slump.
	I think you can still buy pots and pans with her name on it.
	She's absolutely fine.
	People still don't care.
	Like, yeah, Papa John's gonna step away, but he's not really gonna suffer from this.
	Now he just doesn't have to go to board meetings.
	If yeah yeah no he's he's like you said yeah he's gonna be doing fine too.
	This was strategic.
	It uh you mentioned that this was like a canary in the coal mine or like uh this was in 2007.
	Yeah if this had if this Paula Deen thing had come out like two years later it would be a different story.
	I hope so.
	Because it isn't it isn't just Her saying the n-word.
	It's her, like, fantasizing about owning slaves for fun.
	Like, as part of a gala.
	Like, I'm gonna have slaves at my dinner party.
	Part of a theme.
	Yeah, and I remember there was, like, they actually, like, followed up on this story for a while.
	Like, I remember watching it.
	and there was like interviews with her and they were you know demanding to know whether she had ever used the n-word before you know because this is technically hearsay or whatever and she couldn't say that she had never used the n-word before she was like well you know lots of people have said it yeah well it's because she's talking she was talking about like what people in the south call like pecans Oh, no, it's not pecans.
	It's Brazil nuts.
	Brazil nuts, yeah.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	Yeah, no, I heard that phrase when I was young.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so she's like, I can't say I didn't say it.
	I fucking love Brazil nuts.
	Um, but I remember, like, you know, this is, like you said, 2007, uh, early days of Facebook, and I, I had an ironic Paula Deen avatar, like, profile picture.
	It's the one where she's, like, smiling at the camera, just, like, horrifically, big teeth shining, like, crow's feet caked with makeup, and, you know, of course it was ironic, and I just thought it was, like, a horrific picture, so I, I made it my profile picture, and that's, like, not something you can do anymore.
	No.
	Because, like, you'd be endorsing her at that point.
	Yeah, no, because, like, that was back before I was aware of, like, how crazy people were willing to get, like, in public, you know?
	Like, now, yeah, people would just unironically be like, no, I love Paula Deen, like, she's an evil racist, and, like, that's who I identify with.
	I like that she's not afraid to say it.
	But I mean, she was like classy about it.
	She wasn't, you know, asking for them to wear like chains or anything.
	She just said like, you know, um, loose-fitting clothes and they can't make eye contact with any of the guests.
	Don't walk too fast.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, uh... Let's move on to our first set of comments from this.
	Yes.
	Okay, so a top comment on one of the Facebook posts.
	You know, one of the, I can't remember which one it was, you know, it was like ABC.
	DC.
	One of the top comments was from Stephanie Aguirre, who says, My husband is a franchise owner of Papa John's.
	He's African American.
	He had an experience with John Schnatter at an event.
	And so, like, I'm reading this, like, I know how racist America is, and, like, this is the top comment, so lots of people have reacted to it, and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be, like, an apology on behalf of John Schnatter.
	Like, this is gonna be like, he treated my husband with the utmost respect, and, like, despite the fact that this is one encounter with one black person, like, this is gonna be evidence that he's not racist.
	He gave my husband perfect dab with perfect timings.
	It was amazing.
	It's like he's shaken many a hand.
	But no.
	No, no.
	It goes, my husband, being the only black owner in the room at the time, was approached by John himself and told to start helping the staff to move tables and chairs.
	When my husband told him no, and he was not part of the venue's staff but a franchise owner, John told him he figured he was part of the staff.
	Cool guy.
	Oh, man.
	Like, John Schnatter's just, like, drunk all the time, right?
	Just like... Yeah, exactly.
	He's like, move the chair.
	Move the chair now.
	He gets that sort of, like, drunk stumble that's still, uh, highly accurate, where you're able to be, you know, almost blacked out, but still able to step directly into your own mouth.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is great, like, He clarifies after the fact, oh, I just assumed you were part of the staff.
	Like, goes out of his way to explain how racist he is.
	He should have been like, oh, so you think you're better than a regular employee?
	Like, listen, we're a team here at Papa John's.
	Thank you!
	No one's above moving tables and chairs.
	No, yeah, he could have gone a woke direction and be like, I know you're not staff, but you still need to help do some of the labor.
	Like, these people aren't beneath you.
	I'm sorry, I'm gonna grab chairs and I own the goddamn place.
	Exactly.
	I do feel like this is him being racist.
	You know, call me an ally, if you will.
	But I feel like, yeah, this is him being racist.
	He didn't have to assume he was staff.
	He could have assumed he was the entertainment.
	Yeah.
	You know, he could have been like, oh, you're Kevin Hart, right?
	You're going to talk about how you hate your kids?
	Are you here for the NFL?
	Is that what you're here for?
	He was like, you know, it's a shame because you're so strong.
	You look very strong.
	You probably move a lot of tables and probably fast.
	Have you thought about getting into this industry?
	I own one of your franchises.
	I know, but I mean like, expand your portfolio.
	Uh, Jeanie Rupe, so this is from a post that, like, some comedian made, Tom Mabe.
	Do we know who this person is?
	Tom Mabe the Big?
	Nope.
	Yeah.
	Big fan.
	Uh, he was like, uh, Papa John is a good person.
	He's not racist.
	He just said something stupid.
	It's like, who the fuck is Papa John to you?
	Why do you give a shit unless you just want to say the N-word?
	Like, that's it, right?
	Yeah.
	Knowing comedians, that's probably true.
	There is such that Opien and Anthony type of attention in comedy circles that's just like, yeah.
	Any chance that they could say the N-word, they want to keep that option open.
	They want one person like the papa to get away with it so that they can do their entire set full of bigotry and just saying that word so many times and they end it by saying, oh listen motherfucker, if the papa can say it, then daddy can too.
	I just, yeah, you just, you can't be held responsible for the things you say, like, while riding that crowd wave, you know?
	No, no.
	Uh, but one of these comments was pretty amazing, uh, Genie Rupe says, If every person who uses that word in a sentence or a form of that word were to lose their job, there would be no rap music or football!
	That's not telling at all.
	Also, a form of that word, does that mean saying the n-word?
	Because that's a form of saying the n-word is the... I'm just confused.
	Oh sure.
	No, I think she's talking about the way the brothers say it to each other.
	Not the way that I would say it.
	The soft R. Not the hard R. I love that she went football and not basketball.
	I love that.
	It's that Papa John mind mound.
	He has all the NFL sponsorships.
	My favorite part about this comment is like it's it's kind of not wrong like it's just admitting that like black people dominate football and and music like yeah uh so i like that but i but i also want to say like yeah if everyone uh who used that word were to lose their job there'd be no rap music or football or ceos yeah there'd just be no more ceos either so like and that's for the that's for the hard version that's for the hard r that's for the one involving bigotry and hot brotherhood Alright, you got this next one.
	You wanna go for that one?
	Oh, from Tommy Grinder.
	From Tommy Grinder, who is not nearly as cool as his name, you'd think.
	Yeah.
	He's doing a board slide in this avatar, which is just weird.
	It's not a grind at all, bro.
	Going against type.
	Yeah.
	Fucking loser.
	Maybe it's a lip slide.
	If it's a lip slide, then I'll give him.
	We didn't see it.
	We didn't see how it started.
	Slide.
	Slide.
	Slide is still a slide.
	It's not a grind.
	So, Tommy Crooked Grinder.
	So, pizza joins you to have healthcare?
	So this job should have healthcare?
	Let me phrase it for you.
	I always thought there were places where high school kids get their first job, or if someone wanted to make some extra income, not a job to retire from.
	I always thought this was like, I thought it was like a hobby, right?
	What do you do in your spare time?
	Fucking deliver pizzas.
	Tommy Grinder with the stealth point of why we need to decouple healthcare from employment.
	Hell yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You know, like maybe.
	So maybe healthcare shouldn't be an issue.
	Cool name.
	Fuck the idea of extra income.
	It's called income.
	It's called what I need to live.
	It's not like bonus extra credit.
	Fuck the idea of extra income.
	It's called income.
	It's called what I need to live.
	It's not like bonus extra credit.
	It's called exploitation.
	This mentality that I deserve this luxury, but the person providing luxury does not deserve it...
	Like, I deserve to have my food brought to me, but they don't have to have the same ability to do it.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	Maybe we got Tommy all wrong.
	Maybe this is like a backdoor ad for Tommy's Grinders, which does provide healthcare to its employees.
	Yeah.
	And it's for people who are just, like, in the middle of their life.
	Who, like, don't need extra money.
	They're just... They just want a job making grinders for Tommy Grinder.
	She's, like, just a personal chef.
	Yeah.
	That person deserves healthcare, too.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	This guy at work has multiple Pizza Hut shirts and one of his shirts says, No one has a sandwich party.
	What?
	Yep.
	No adult has a pizza party either, bro.
	It's just the party a pizza happens to be.
	We have sandwiches at parties all the time.
	What else am I going to do with my reading points?
	Your reading points?
	My reading points.
	I'm going to get free pizza from Pizza Hut.
	Is that like a school program?
	That was a school program, yeah.
	Book it, right?
	Book it.
	Yeah, you go.
	Yeah, see?
	Yeah.
	Book it's great.
	Yeah, you get a little personal pan pizza.
	You, like, fake like you read a book and you get free stuff.
	See, I just read for fun.
	That was just me.
	I didn't need a prize from a nerd.
	No, it catered to both my favorite hobbies being a fat kid and a nerd.
	Can we skip Sean's comment?
	Yeah, fuck Sean.
	Sean had a good comment, which we've already kind of talked about a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Just fuck Papa John is basically the comment for his stance on healthcare and employee rights.
	Oh, we're going to Mark A. Alcorn?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Mark A. Al... This is... Let's stick to it, right?
	Is it me?
	It's you.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Mark A. Alcorn Jr.
	says, He wasn't literally calling anyone that.
	So dumb.
	If you read the article, they were working in a public relations company, and he asked to roleplay and how to respond to certain situations.
	He wasn't literally calling anyone that.
	So dumb, people are way too sensitive.
	Yeah, I love this.
	He was rehearsing a play.
	He was reading from Huckleberry Finn.
	That's what was happening.
	Just that very particular part of Huckleberry Finn.
	Just that few lines there, just over and over again.
	Like, first these PC leftists came for Mark Twain, and now they're trying to remove all the N-words from classic American conference calls.
	I'm trying to go back and revise history.
	I'm going to create a museum dedicated to preserving our classic racist conference calls.
	Don't erase the history!
	Well, my favorite thing is that Julie Braun responded, reacting out of sensitivity rather than facts.
	Absolutely.
	Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	Well, you're supposed to react out of facts.
	The fact is he said it.
	That's the fact.
	Right!
	The sensitivity would be me taking time to say, well maybe he is taking it out of context, but the facts are he said it.
	Zuck, when are we going to get that Facts React?
	Yeah, can we please have that now?
	It's just a bench Pirofest.
	But it's too small to see, unfortunately.
	Uh, I like this one.
	Can I read this one?
	Oh yeah, from, uh, yeah, please.
	Kylie Smith says, Stupid, stupid, stupid!
	Stand your ground, John!
	So you made a mistake.
	You admitted it.
	Apologized for it and owned it.
	Now move on.
	No need to give up everything!
	I love, like, the idea of- He didn't give up anything.
	Just caring this much about a CEO.
	Yeah.
	Yeah!
	He's fine.
	All he did was give up his seat at board meetings.
	He now gets to just chill all the time.
	I hope he gets a reality show.
	I hope he dies of alcohol poisoning.
	I hope he dies of alcohol poisoning on his reality show.
	That's probably gonna happen.
	I like that idea.
	I like that idea a lot.
	Dr. Drew, but just for Papa John.
	Yeah, and no help, just his downfall.
	They put him on the roof and keep him up there until he dies.
	Sorry, what were you saying, Ben?
	No, does Eli Manning show up?
	I still think that Eli Manning pranked him and made him do this.
	It's like some crazy conspiracy for those TV ads they did.
	Hey John, what rhymes with bigger and is a lower class of person that you hate?
	And then finally, last comment on this topic.
	Real big brain comment here.
	This was from a Bloomberg Facebook post about this subject, which is indicative once you hear the comment.
	This is like...
	Perfect Bloomberg mindset here.
	Or I guess I should say like Bloomberg fan mindset.
	Kurt Gossman says, Pshh!
	Force him to hire Elon Musk.
	I'd like to hear Papa John tell Elon Musk he put one too many pepperoni on a pizza.
	With my luck, they'd invent a flamethrowing pizza oven in space.
	Oh, God.
	God.
	This comment is so epic.
	Hi, Elon, it's Papa John's.
	Sorry, we're being forced to hire you.
	I don't know what your jobs are going to be.
	We have to hire you.
	Maybe some sort of autonomous pizza box?
	I don't know.
	He's going to find a way to work that fucking submarine in there somehow.
	This little child coffin.
	Yeah, oh yeah, well yeah, he'll find that basement that Papa John's claims doesn't exist.
	I mean... It's since the series Tubes.
	I think we do know after this weekend, though, that Papa John and Elon Musk have given money to the same politicians, so I guess that's something.
	Oh yeah, that's fucking hilarious.
	Yeah, I love that story.
	And it's funny because it's like, of course.
	It's like, why is this?
	I mean, I guess I'm glad they published that story, but at the same time, why did anyone need them to do that?
	Yeah, if you have money, you don't actually bet it all on black.
	Like, you spread the chips around.
	Okay, let's get on to the next topic, which is Trump's visit to the UK.
	Specifically to England.
	In London, they protested his visit by the hundreds of thousands.
	250,000 people, I think, came out to protest Donald Trump, which is great.
	Which is awesome because they were already pretty pissed because they lost in the World Cup semi-final.
	That's a great chance just to let all that energy out.
	Yeah, they were like, just blame it on this guy.
	And a big story about this protest, I guess probably even overshadowing the sheer size of the protest, was this Donald Trump float that somebody made.
	It was this mocking, fat, cartoon baby depiction of Donald Trump in a diaper.
	You know, naked otherwise, holding a cell phone in his right hand.
	Like, that's like the tweeting thing.
	And, I don't know, it's, you know, it's like stupid, but the practical implication of this is that it's just gonna make Donald Trump mad, which I like, which is cool.
	Yeah.
	How do we all feel about this?
	Ben, how do you feel about this?
	As a leftist, how do you feel about this sort of performative protest?
	You know, I think it's good in that it's a good way for people to connect to each other, you know?
	And realize that you're in a community that has a lot of similar interests.
	Like, for the act of actually protesting.
	And you know, the Trump baby thing is pretty funny.
	It's just a ridiculous thing.
	I guess what I do wonder though is like...
	You know, like, sometimes for these larger protests, and when they're just sort of, like, anti-Trump, they're never really for, like, a certain policy or a certain goal, you know?
	Definitely.
	And, like, that's always been, like, a problem that I had with, like, groups like the Women's March.
	Not that I'm, like, anti-woman, you know?
	I, like, consider myself, like, a socialist feminist, like, all that.
	And I don't... And I feel like sometimes when things are so broad, there's no...
	Yeah.
	It's just kind of it then just becomes like everyone registered to vote.
	Yeah.
	You know, so.
	Becomes the Occupy movement.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, I think they're overall I'd rather that they happen.
	Yeah.
	It's a net good, I suppose.
	Yeah.
	You know, like you said, you know, that's a problem with, quote, left politics in like America is, you know, especially in 2016 was just Existing in opposition to Donald Trump is not politics.
	It's not a policy.
	It's not motivating.
	Or even if it is motivating, it's, uh, it's not effectacious.
	Is that the word?
	Yeah.
	Efficacious.
	Yeah.
	What's interesting to me about this is it kind of says a lot about, um, economics and like maybe thought economics and like the actual monetary value of those things.
	So if I had enough money to, buy this float.
	So this float, I think what they did is there was already a Boss Baby float for the Macy's Day Parade, and they just made it blonde and awful looking on the face, but the shape, the cutout, the pattern is from Boss Baby, and they trumpified it, right?
	So this is still going to cost, this is not cheap, this is going to cost a few thousand dollars.
	And you might think right away, why would you spend that few thousand dollars on a float?
	Why wouldn't you do something else with it?
	Well, because if you were to actually take that money and put it towards some campaign or movement, that, say $25,000 that this might cost, and I'm not exaggerating, that's not going to go as far as this float is.
	Because we're talking about the float, and there's nothing you can do with $25,000 in any type of movement right now, like by yourself, that people are going to talk about around the world.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to undercut you.
	Like, 25 grand could help out, like, five families or something like that?
	Oh, no, absolutely.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It could do that.
	But when it comes to, like, thought and conversation, this is, like, it sucks that this is, like, effective in a weird way.
	I mean, hey, anything that gets me more memes, I'm fucking down for.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's some good ones.
	Yeah, speaking of good memes, we have the right-wing response to the Trump baby meme, and there were a few that were all pretty obvious and just sort of recycling old memes.
	This one, kind of no different.
	Top text says, the balls for the Trump baby balloon have arrived in London.
	And there's like a crane holding up two upside down hot air balloons that are like mostly deflated.
	So it's like orange wrinkled truck nuts, basically, is what it looks like.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I, I, you know, it's like, it's, it's weird because like, I don't actually think that having large balls actually means anything about you as your strength, but it's a colloquialism that we just say, but now seeing it transformed into this right next to the baby Trump picture is just... All the late capitalism memes are completely real.
	This is the end.
	Well, it's also just, like, the hyper-literal mind of the Trump voter.
	Like, it's one thing we've sort of explored a little bit on this podcast, is just how literal and sort of surface-level all these political ideas are.
	Yeah, no, those are big balls, and like big balls means you're good and strong, and like you just put the big balls on the baby and now the baby's like masculine.
	Right, now the baby's... yeah.
	The right talks about balls and babies way too much, it's real weird.
	Yeah, no, it is weird.
	So, two things.
	One, I have these photos side by side, you know, the Trump
	Baby balloon and then like the crane hoisting giant orange testicles I don't know if they're buoys or if they are balloons, but either way you get the idea of what they look like But no somebody actually like attached these two images and a meme that I saw but didn't save So it was like the baby floating over people with just like truck nuts hanging from its its you know spot That means it's not a baby anymore.
	That means it's like an adult in a diaper Oh, dude, you don't like pull out your testicles and stamp your bros all the time?
	Yeah!
	That's what we're doing to England.
	Well yeah, it was harder to do when I had literally no motor skills.
	Yeah, but these huge balls, they couldn't contain them.
	Well no, like a very popular meme on the right is Trump sitting next to Trudeau and Trudeau has like his legs together and Trump is like man-spreading on the love seat that they're on.
	And it's like, why, you know, notice the difference?
	It's something even more literal than that.
	It's literally meant to show you that Trump is spreading his legs because he has giant testicles.
	And Trudeau is closing his legs because instead of testicles, he has a vagina.
	But the real answer to that is... Is it like... When someone has extreme hemorrhoids, it's harder to sit with your knees together.
	That's the real truth behind that photo.
	What were you gonna say, Ben?
	Yeah, totally.
	Have the conservatives just given up on the fantasy that their god emperor Trump has a big dick?
	Like they can only imagine him having big balls.
	That's the best they could hope for.
	Yeah, totally.
	Maybe the crane is supposed to be the dick, but it's like not even referenced in the text though.
	It's so sad.
	And then this other one, like, the whole, like, balls thing was everywhere.
	But this one, it was the only place I spotted it in.
	And I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with this one.
	So it looks like a painting, like a classic painting of a sort of farmland, you know, a flat farmland, uh, where hot air balloons would take off from.
	You know, this is like a thing that, you know, like certain areas they have hot air balloon trips and like they all take off from like a flat land area.
	And so there, it's like the scenic, The painting, I think, and the balloon that's front and center, the largest balloon, front and center, on the balloon it says, Trump, my president, and then between Trump and my is a little down caret, and it says, is still.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	So, top text says, uh, it's Friday and... and then the hot air balloon says, Trump, my president.
	Down carrot is still.
	It's the most literal response.
	Yeah, you have a nice blimp, but look at our blimp that's not real, but we've definitely put words over a picture of a blimp.
	Do you think that, um, not just the words on the front blimp, but the iron cross and the iron crosses on the blimp in the back were photoshopped in there too?
	No, that is definitely the Red Baron blimp.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	What happened with this?
	Because the Trump My President text looks like part of the painting.
	It's curved in conjunction, you know, along the path of the curvature of the balloon.
	It's not perfect like a digital font would be.
	It looks like it was painted at the same time as the rest of this.
	But then, the down caret and the is still is computer-generated font.
	So, what am I supposed to take away from this?
	This is from a website where you can buy custom Trump My President balloons, and you can choose from the is still and is not options.
	But they only have one graphic mocked up for both.
	They want to be able to get libs and, you know, MAGA chuds.
	So, they gotta spread out the market.
	I think this is like boomers touching up each other's jokes or memes like in the same comment section, you know, which is the thing that they like to do, you know, like, uh, oh, Trump, uh, if, if Trump cured cancer, liberals would say, Donald Trump puts thousands of doctors out of work.
	And then like right under that, it's like, no, if Trump cured cancer, liberals would say, Trump put thousands of doctors and nurses out of work.
	That's really weird because it actually says that on like one of the balloons really far in the distance.
	It's really small.
	You can barely read it.
	So I think this is like that like somebody thought it would be better if they added is still with a down carrot.
	I don't know.
	We spent too much time on this, but it's just like fascinating to me.
	Like add this add this goofy.
	It's Friday and yeah, and then yeah now you got yourself a better meme.
	Frank Stenger says of the 250,000 people in London, fake crowd, which, you know, something we touch on constantly, just anything you don't like is fake, but it never ceases to bewilder me.
	Yeah, it's easy.
	It's easiest to... Nope, not real.
	It's fake.
	I saw a program that can easily Photoshop millions of people.
	I've seen the Lord of the Rings special features.
	Do you know how to do this?
	It was like 10 clicks, it was over.
	Oh, we should say that the balloon kept Trump out of London, right?
	Yeah.
	I guess the mass protest as well, but... It was the, like, beacon, though, you know?
	It was important.
	It built a wall.
	Finally, a wall is built.
	He was gonna go, but he couldn't stop making the same exact face the balloon's making.
	And he's like, this is bad optics, we gotta stop.
	Yeah.
	Tony Dill, probably also the owner of a sub shop, says, Awesome, we can fly a big balloon of killery with Benghazi on her back and the names of the men she let be slaughtered.
	Oh my god.
	That definitely happened.
	I love this, like, trying to make a joke but just being so fucking mad.
	So full of rage.
	This is not a joke.
	You can go to Tony Dale's GoFundMe page and, uh, help reach his goal of $95,000 to make the custom Hillary Benghazi on her back and all the names of the soldiers she killed.
	I wanna- let's- how about we make a- make a blimp of one of the children that Hillary raped and fly that in London.
	Is that a ice cream cone hot air balloon?
	Yeah, the one right next to the Pizza Gate victim.
	Is that just a face?
	Is that balloon just a face?
	Is that a bowl of cum floating above our heads?
	The face comes off the blimp and becomes a parachute that you use.
	Randy Harrison says, this is a lib take here, Randy Harrison says, they should have made the Trump balloon joined to a couple young girl balloons with him grabbing their genitalia and kissing them without their consent.
	I mean, I kind of get your point, but also like, No, that's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard in my life.
	What's having an inflatable fetish?
	What is that called?
	Oh, like a rubber fetish?
	Like an inflata-foam?
	I don't know.
	Inflata-file.
	Inflata-file.
	Yeah, they're adding that.
	I just read this on 4chan.
	They're adding that to the LGBTQ acronym.
	I. Yeah.
	That's what the I stands for.
	It's not intersex.
	No.
	Not anymore.
	Were you gonna say something, Ben, about this great libtic?
	Oh no, I just don't know how you could do that with hot air balloons.
	I get that they want to reference the Access Hollywood video, but how?
	That's actually way easier than you'd think, being as that they have inflatable dolls.
	Like, they could just use inflatable dolls.
	They're not gonna look good, they're just gonna be.
	They're just gonna exist.
	Just like the idea of, like, let's memorialize the, like, assault of young women to own Trump.
	Let's, like, plaster that in the sky.
	In the literal sky.
	Let's... Do we have photographs of these girls so we can make it as accurate as possible?
	Yeah, and let's just re-trigger people who have been sexually assaulted over and over again.
	That's a great idea, too.
	Yeah, no, totally.
	Listen, I'm gonna need to scan your body to 3D print it.
	It's for a protest.
	It's for you, it's for you.
	Oh, God.
	Okay, so speaking of lib takes, we have some great ones here.
	Last part of this show, Yeah, one of the protest signs, an amazing protest sign.
	British flag.
	Donald Trump in the center of it.
	God save the Queen, plastered over his eyes.
	Bottom text, from the fascist tangerine.
	Obviously a punk did this.
	Yeah, that's pretty punk rock.
	This is obviously a reference to the Ramones and their love of the Queen.
	Yeah.
	Actually, protect the Queen now.
	That's how bad he is that even the punks want to help save her.
	Yeah, this is like how Black Flag wanted to protect cops with their own guns.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They loved the cops so much, they were like, make me come.
	I like you.
	I like it.
	There's another word involved in that.
	You can buy this God Save the Queen from the Fudge Tangerine shirt from The Gap England.
	By the way, I know that that's not... Like $75.
	I know that that's not Ramones.
	I was trying to make a I-don't-know-anything-about-punk joke.
	Okay, good.
	I was about to, well, actually you, but I was like, eh, I'm gonna let it go.
	It's like, what's a 70s American band that this person thinks?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, no, the great, great take.
	God save the Queen.
	And speaking of God save the Queen, uh, something big happened.
	Something real big happened while Trump met with the Queen, which was that, like, he walked by her in a way that obscured her from the camera.
	Like, they were walking together, and then she walked, like, behind him, and then he stopped, and, like, didn't look at her, but, like, stopped, and then she caught up to him again.
	And like, this was the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen in my life.
	Well, you can visibly see the fart that he's letting out.
	You can see the...
	So this meme here is like Trump, a photo, it's not, I guess it's a meme, I don't know fucking know anymore.
	It's just a photograph of Trump like partially obscuring the Queen of England because she's behind him.
	And the text, just this like long righteous screed over this photo says, She's 92 years old and has met with every US president since 1952.
	And this douche nozzle arrives late, walks in front of her, doesn't bow, fails to turn and see if she's okay.
	I fucking hate it when people fail to turn.
	It's the worst.
	And generally embarrasses the country he's there to represent.
	No respect, no decency.
	You want to know a little secret life tip to not being embarrassed by this?
	You can't be embarrassed if he's not your president.
	Oh, good point.
	You know?
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Like, embarrasses the country.
	Like, his fucking existence is an embarrassment to humanity.
	Why do you care about this?
	Sorry, go ahead, Ben.
	No, it's just, this is just what happens with the sort of bored lib brain.
	It's like when you don't have a politics that's about anything besides process and manners, this is the most important thing in the world to you.
	Like, why?
	While they're negotiating Brexit, this is the important thing?
	What?
	Yeah, it's optics.
	Your life is not on the line at all, so all you care about is whether the picture on TV looked good or not.
	Right.
	He's lucky that we don't have the access we really wanted to because if we could cover the whole thing we would see the hour long session where he would read off a list of words he wanted her to repeat and he would giggle at the silly way she says them.
	He was like, he was like, say, say water.
	And she was like, water.
	And he was like, ah, it's funny every time.
	This went on for a whole hour.
	So this, this post was like, this was posted by somebody named Gary, excuse me, Gary Shang, who, who I don't know, but he's got 6,000 reactions to this and 15,000 shares, 868,000 views.
	to this and 15,000 shares, 868,000 views.
	And, uh, dude is cooking.
	Yeah, this is a big, big time for Gary.
	Uh, He says, Look, I have no affinity for monarchies by any stretch of the imagination.
	Oh wait, hold on, the next word is but.
	But, this is such an insult to Britain, our long time ally.
	Not that long.
	This wanker is clueless, classless, thoughtless, lacking in any dignity, and without a shred of respect.
	So fucking embarrassing.
	Britain, I'm sorry.
	You know what you should apologize for, is that fucking, uh, really rude and embarrassing appropriation of the word wanker.
	Don't take my culture.
	Listen, I won't believe you're sorry until you crush yourself with a lift.
	If you really want to prove how sorry you are, if you really want to take on this burden for America, like, drive your lorry off a bridge, dude.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Take that.
	Other great words they use that we don't.
	A crumpet.
	Choke on a crumpet.
	There's a Tesco?
	I think that's like their 7-Eleven?
	Yeah, totally.
	That's the only thing I know.
	I hope your bangers get mashed.
	Alright, let's move on from that.
	Patricia Kier says, What the fuck was keeping an open mind about this quote man Not a real man.
	He doesn't have those giant baby balls.
	But seeing this put a whole different light for me.
	Ignoramus, in a couple years he'll be gone.
	Our queen served for decades.
	Served, I love that word.
	Yeah, they pay her so much goddamn money.
	Not just the Queen, she is a woman.
	Where are his manners?
	I was keeping an open mind when Trump admitted to sexually assaulting women and proudly, gleefully separated children from immigrants and said that cops should beat up black people.
	I was still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he obstructed my view of the Queen.
	Yeah.
	He was in the way of an old lady for like a second.
	She does look a lot like my grandma, so I am a little offended, but I'm like, I'm using facts, logic, and reason to help me, you know.
	What's the queen's last name?
	Uh, the, the... What queen is she?
	The Tudors?
	I think. - I don't know.
	- Actually, no, that's totally, I don't care.
	Abolish royalty.
	Royalty is stupid.
	I don't call her queen, I call her abuela.
	I call her my abuela.
	Just completely wrong.
	It's great.
	Jerry Murphy says...
	He's only president.
	She is the queen.
	There's the difference.
	Have some respect, people.
	He's only a president.
	I don't agree with the monarchy, but you have to respect it.
	That's so lame.
	Just like, uh, you're only president for eight years.
	You're a queen for life.
	Forever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	So like the culmination, the logical culmination of all this shit, uh, resulted, the culmination resulted, uh, it culminated in a argument I got in with some, a friend of a friend on her Facebook.
	Uh, this friend of mine, shout out if she's listening to Jang.
	Um, she posted something about this, this incident, you know, and I'll admit it looks funny.
	Like it looks funny, you know, Trump just like standing in front of her, not looking at her to see where she's going or anything like that.
	And you know, yeah, you could read it as disrespect, but even if it is disrespectful, once again, I don't care at all.
	That's fine.
	Disrespect her more.
	Um, I commented on it and I was like, come on, disrespecting the Queen of England is literally the only cool thing Trump has ever done.
	And, uh, this other person, this other commentator commented, uh...
	I'm totally anti-monarchy, but... It's that but word again, for being so anti-monarchy.
	There's always a qualifier.
	But when you go to their country as a guest of the government, and the crown, and you are a world and national leader, you follow the fucking protocol.
	He didn't show up on time.
	He didn't know where to stand.
	He walked in front of her.
	And he didn't do this because he's a rebel.
	He did it because he's a fucking idiot and didn't even read the goddamn protocol they sent.
	I'm imagining Trump doing this as a rebel, though.
	He comes in on a skateboard and has sunglasses on.
	Yeah, totally.
	He throws his hood up like Jeb Bush.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Please clap.
	Yeah, so this conversation I was having, this argument that I got into, was made all the better by learning after the fact that this Tracy is the Communications Director for the Democratic Congresswoman Jackie Speier of California.
	Oh, I know her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	That's not good.
	Oh no, it's very good.
	So, I said, uh, I responded, I was like, this isn't politics, like, what you're doing isn't politics, like we, like we were talking about it a little bit ago.
	It's just optics that only, like, weirdos like you care about.
	Like, I was nice, I was nicer when I said all this, but I was like, it doesn't affect anybody, like, it doesn't affect real people, besides, like, fuck the queen.
	Yeah.
	I didn't say that either to her, but I was like, you know, you know, like, they're massively wealthy, and their massive wealth is built on, like, Imperialism and colonialism and all that good stuff.
	I was like, it's not only is it, like, nonsensical, your argument, it's also immoral.
	Like, you should disrespect the Queen whenever you have the chance to do so.
	I was just like, and this is why, like, Democrats are losing.
	Again, before I knew that she had any part in a campaign and, um...
	She responded, uh, if you're an elected or appointed leader, yes, you should adhere to the rules of decorum.
	It's part of your job, which is why every foreign dignitary who comes to the U.S.
	does it.
	They also speak their minds, but they have a job to do.
	And so my response to this was like, you really think people elected Trump so that he would follow decorum?
	You really think that that's Trump's job?
	No, every single one's a wild card vote.
	He's a wild card.
	He's an outsider.
	Like, he's doing exactly- if this is an intentional, like, disrespect, that's exactly why people voted for him.
	Like, he's doing actual politics, he's fulfilling the will of his base, which is what's so confusing to people.
	When he does try to punk, uh, you know, the-the premier of China, or the-the fuckin' F-Holland, or whoever, like, he's doing it because that's his job.
	Well, it-it's smart, because, I mean, the-the queen is still a woman, so you still gotta manipulate, you know, her-her, uh, natural tendencies, so, you know, when you wanna get something good from her, you know, you-you gotta kinda, like, show people around her more attention, you know, a la Russia, you know?
	You gotta neg her.
	You know, you got a negger.
	Oh, we say the n-word on this podcast.
	Yeah, excuse me.
	You got a negative feedbacker.
	And, um, you know, and then that's how she's gonna come and she's gonna be eating out the palm of your hand.
	Sure, it's just like... Protocol, and I'm amazed that I had to explain this to her.
	Protocol and norms and civility only exist to serve the purposes of the people involved in them.
	There's no intrinsic value to civility or protocol.
	It's just when you want something from somebody, You play politics, you engage in this sort of political dance or the observance of norms.
	Trump has already decided that he doesn't like Europe.
	He's made Europe his number one foe, geopolitical foe.
	Why would he have any interest in observing the protocol of England or the UK in general?
	This is totally naive and not politics at all.
	It's also telling how much he got into all the ceremony when he went to Saudi Arabia, you know?
	I think that's also really telling about who he is as a person and what kind of power he respects and wants.
	He's like, I want the crazy rich guy power.
	He would have been more respectful if they would have let him know that she also owns exotic cats and nice automobiles.
	She's like, you don't know how many Indians I've killed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's an insane amount.
	We literally lost count.
	And then so yeah, Tracy went on to say as for why Democrats lose races if only it were that simple And I never said that people who are elected people who elected Trump follow decorum I said it is what should be done like I love this idea what is It's what should be done.
	Like, can't we all agree on that?
	No, we literally can't.
	That's just a random idea you have that nobody else has to follow.
	Don't conflate my statements because you either can't or won't consider the complexity of reality.
	I have such trouble considering the complexity.
	That technocrat language.
	It's trying to be, that's for sure.
	While it's fun to think that an anarchic response will fix this country, it's childish and foolhardy.
	It also feeds into the narrative that the right uses to keep their similarly ignorant base fired up.
	So much going on in this comment, and it keeps going.
	And in the end, the people hurt the most will be those who are most vulnerable.
	As difficult and frustrating as it is, the only effective counter is through reason, logic, and respectful dissent.
	Wait, how is walking slower with the Queen gonna help poor people in London?
	Because I feel like that's the point she's trying to make and I don't see how that connects.
	No, because if Trump observes these norms and these sort of like civilities with the Queen, then she'll be more interested in his interests, which are of course helping the poor of England.
	She'll be more willing to work with him and give him that line item of more money for NHS.
	Alex, you're not thinking about how selfish you are.
	The people of England might need a new golf course.
	So, another idea contained in here is that if you're not civil, then the right will use that to their advantage to keep their ignorant base fired up.
	Because if you're civil, then the right will have no choice but to respect you, is the argument here.
	Second of all, this comment, this long comment that I read, was twice as long.
	And I just cut off the second half.
	It was just a fucking wall of text without any line breaks.
	And so my immediate response was like, well that sure is text.
	Like, that sure is some text.
	And then her response to this was...
	Sorry I didn't write in LOL speak.
	I'm sure you can find someone to help you with that.
	Oh, that's good.
	Ooh, gottem.
	And so it's just like, I'm like, your whole argument is about civility and protocol and like the niceties of interpersonal engagement and yet you've implied that I'm stupid like three times throughout this conversation.
	You've been sarcastic as fuck.
	You've called me childish, etc.
	And, and, and, uh, I just, you know, I was just like, that's funny.
	And then also, like, just in general, if you're going to call me childish, like, I don't take it personally.
	I just, I hate this idea of like, we have to obey the rules of politics.
	And it's like, That's childish.
	You pretending that there's some, yeah, like, impartial referee who's gonna step in because Trump didn't, like, hold the Queen's hand, and then they're gonna nullify his presidency and install Hillary Clinton in his place and we're gonna get two more Supreme Court justice picks?
	If you're wondering why the Democrats aren't doing well, it's because people who are actually on the Democratic payroll are engaging at this length with people on the left over this issue.
	That's why Democrats aren't doing anything.
	It's amazing.
	It's incredible.
	This is a real person who is engaging in this fashion over this issue.
	And then she said, uh, I'm sorry.
	Would you feel better if I said that you're totally right, dude?
	You're a genius.
	Problem solved.
	Uh, and this really like, you know, I, I like a subservient woman.
	She could tell that from my comment.
	She could tell that I was a Bernie bro from my comment.
	Yeah.
	And so she's really tapping into my, my way of thinking here.
	You're a genius problem solved.
	Thanks for enlightening me.
	Here, I'll throw in some emojis and nonsense hashtags to demonstrated my sincerity.
	And then it's like a pumpkin, a devil, a shit, and a robot.
	And then she says, LOL, SMH.
	Two things real quick.
	Yeah.
	Those are the emojis she put up.
	That either means A, that's in her most used emojis, or B, she actually scrolled over to get those ones.
	So once again, she's put too much effort into this.
	Interesting.
	Or is a weirdo.
	And then my final point was like, you don't have to be sorry.
	Like, I don't take any of this personally.
	Just admit that civility and protocol only exist to serve a greater purpose and have no value in it of themselves.
	Like, otherwise you wouldn't feel so comfortable casting them aside during this conversation.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Like, when you, like, make a demand in politics, you're, like, that's the thing you're, like, arguing for, right?
	So it's a negotiation.
	So when you make the thing that you're demanding is civility, then you're, like, basically saying you're willing to negotiate away other stuff.
	Yeah, your whole conversation is a meta-conversation about the conversation, and it's fucking nothing, and it's a waste of time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's so silly.
	Get stuff done on the left.
	The fact that it, because our mutual friend, whose post all of this happened on, hit me up after the fact, and was like, uh, that ruled.
	Like, you know who she is, right?
	And I was like, no.
	And she was like, yeah, it's funny, this is who she is.
	That's great.
	I was like, oh, cool.
	So shout out.
	I don't think Tracy's gonna listen to this episode, so I think you're safe, Jang.
	Okay, before we go, let's talk briefly about a piece that you wrote, Ben, on your website.
	Yeah, so I've been a writer on and off for years, but I have a new website called unpopularfront.com.
	It's where I put all my writing and my podcasts and other stuff.
	Take submissions if you guys want to.
	Oh, excellent.
	Someone who's listening, you know, whatever.
	And so the most recent article I wrote there was about this new Sacha Baron Cohen show.
	And there was an article that came out before the show aired.
	I think the show is actually airing right now.
	Um, from Vox that had just the worst take possible, I kind of thought, in the context of what happened this week with that show, uh, Sacha Baron Cohen had tricked Roy Moore, the everyone's favorite pedophile judge, to go to like a pro-Israel rally.
	I don't know if I'd say he's my favorite.
	There's like so many to pick from.
	I know, right?
	Hang on, there's probably more, you know, all the all the Pizzagate references on this show.
	I'm sure there are others.
	But, um, so this article was saying that by tricking Roy Moore and making a big thing about it in the news, basically as publicity for his new show, Sacha Baron Cohen is like inviting
	um like the fake news cry and the sort of the fake news scare to be able to like be reinforced on the right so they'll like not trust liberal media which is just like so silly because it's like these people haven't trusted liberal media for like 25 years no not at all this is not you know like so like it just sort of shows just how much in a bubble It's cool.
	No, I enjoyed it.
	I didn't read the Asia Romano piece.
	That name sounds pretty familiar.
	I might have read something else by them.
	But yeah, it's, uh, it's once again this very, like, impotent cry for civility or cry for, like, observing these rules and norms that don't actually exist.
	Uh, that aren't effective even if you were to observe them.
	Like, you're not gonna convince any MAGA thumbs that the news is good just by doing good news.
	Like, there's good news out there.
	That's not what's preventing these people from caring about reality.
	They don't want to.
	They don't have to.
	Why would they?
	Making fun of them really is one of the best weapons we have.
	There are other things you can do to these people, but making fun of them is fine, and it's funny, and it's invigorating.
	Yeah, well, and also, like, the context of the joke was that, like, all these, like, Christian evangelicals are, uh, becoming super pro-Zionist, um, because, like, Israel needs that political base because, like, my generation of Jews, like me, uh, are less and less, you know, Zionist, if not like me, like a, like, pro-BDS.
	And so like, they have to go to these people and it's like making fun of like, look at how crazy and silly these people are.
	Really, Israel?
	This is who you're going to go to?
	So like, there's like a point in the joke beyond just like that.
	It's, I mean, it's great to laugh at Roy Moore.
	So there's like, there's multiple levels there.
	And it just kind of felt like the critic of the, it just didn't really, didn't really get it.
	No, it would be like, and the idea that this overlaps with fake news at all because it's a prank is disingenuous.
	Because it's the basis of this show from the clips that I've seen and what I've read about it.
	Are people saying very wrong, stupid things.
	Like, it's Roy Moore saying things that hurt him.
	It's Joe Walsh happily talking about giving kindergartners firearms to protect themselves in preschools.
	Like, this isn't fake news, it's a prank.
	Yeah, he just points at the foot, they're the ones that eat it.
	It's, you know, it's Daily Show on steroids.
	It's like if us reading a comment, you know, from Josh Grinder or whatever, like it's like calling that fake news.
	Yeah.
	Right, exactly.
	Yeah, it's just, it's silly.
	It's a thing where I think we're going to have to keep on dealing with, but slowly but surely, I think this can be ground out of libs.
	Yeah, cool.
	So, uh, I'm gonna take a stab at it.
	Ben Udishin?
	Udishin.
	Udishin.
	Okay, I was just worried about mixing up the D and the S-H again.
	Oh, it's fine.
	Just go to unpopularfront.com.
	There's links to everything there if you are interested in me.
	Okay.
	That's what I say.
	Awesome.
	It's a great plug.
	I pay five dollars a month for a website.
	There it is.
	Awesome.
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