Mike Adams exposes a conspiracy where 3,000 new data centers, consuming 190 gigawatts, are built not for AI inference but to simulate billions of worlds for superintelligence. He links this to quantum mechanics and Jan LeCun's theories, suggesting digital gods will emerge via humanoid robots to seize control while elites distract the public with UFOs. Simultaneously, he warns that a 2027 global famine looms due to Middle East conflicts blocking natural gas needed for fertilizers, threatening four billion people and causing economic collapse in nations like Sudan and Yemen unless individuals achieve radical self-reliance. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Hidden Data Center Plan00:08:36
So data centers are really striking a nerve with lots of people, with lots of concerns, and I'm one of those people, by the way, and I sent out a tweet a few hours ago.
I said, oh, and for whatever reason this tweet, I posted it on X and elsewhere.
It went super viral on X and it got 400,000 views and counting, which is really odd.
But let me just read it to you and you can see I said quote, something's totally off about the number of data centers being built over 3,000 right now and the sheer size and compute power they represent.
They are massively overbuilding capacity that can't possibly be met by customer demand for compute, and customer revenues can't possibly recover the financial investment needed on these projects.
There's clearly some other plan afoot, and I don't yet know what it is.
It involves massive compute, but not merely to serve inference or hosting databases and corporate data.
There's a much larger plan at work here.
And lots of people retweeted this or replied to it.
Jimmy Doar is one of them.
Another one is author and former software engineer Rizwan Verk, who talks about simulation theory.
He said, quote, same thing happened during the dot-com days.
Check out what went wrong at Exodus, the number one web hosting company in the world at the end of the 20th century.
And yes, indeed, I remember those days very well.
I was warning people about the dot-com crash beginning in 1998.
So I was a little bit early on that one.
But you know what happened after that.
So, anyway, I came to a realization that I want to share with you here about what I think the data centers are actually up to.
And it's not good.
And it's going to be hard to believe.
So, I'm going to present this as a theory.
You can believe the theory.
You can discard the theory.
You can mock the theory.
You can come up with your own theory.
But this is my theory.
And I'm going to back it up.
And I'm not 100% certain this is what's happening, but it seems like the most likely direction.
So let me start this.
Oh, and by the way, there's no short way to cover this topic, unfortunately.
So I'm going to do this presentation in two parts.
And you're listening to part one.
So let's start with the graphic that I put together.
It's called The Global Data Center Buildout, the Planned and Under Construction Sites Worldwide 2026.
Now, I had AI agents conduct the research on this just yesterday, and I had them build out a complete list globally of every data center that's either currently under construction or has been announced and is planned for construction anywhere in the world.
And specifically, I was looking for data center location, size in terms of power consumption, water consumption, land use in square kilometers typically, and then investment required, etc.
And this chart is the result of that because then I had another image engine map it out on a global map to show you where all these data centers are located and how large they are relative to the other data centers in terms of power consumption.
So check out this map.
So, first of all, let's zoom into the United States, and the number one state in the continental United States for data centers is Virginia.
Actually, Virginia.
Well, and there's a lot in Ohio, as you can see from this map, but I'm talking about existing data centers.
It's Virginia.
So let me back up and tell you there are 11,000 existing data centers in the world right now.
The 3,000 mentioned on this map are just the ones that are newly constructed or being constructed or have been planned.
And as you can see, in Piketon, Ohio, there's a SoftBank data center.
There's a lot of them in Ohio.
There's some in Texas.
And by the way, the lines on this image aren't, Always pointing to the right place because it's an AI generated image, but the underlying data are in fact quite accurate.
So, anyway, you'll see there's lines pointing to Arizona that appear to be pointing to Seattle, etc.
But the overall point of this is that the cities that are listed are accurate and the nations that are listed are also accurate.
So, there's large data centers in Abu Dhabi, in the United Arab Emirates, there's a very large data center under construction in Shanghai, China.
There's a large one in Tokyo, Japan.
There's even one in Malaysia, etc.
You can get an overall impression, but again, pardon the geography mistakes that are part of this.
So the bottom line is that we're looking at about 190 gigawatts of power draw once these are all done.
So that's just for these new data centers.
The projected annual. power draw will be over 1200 terawatt hours per year, which is a lot.
That's like 10% of all the power produced by the nation of China, just to give you a comparison there.
These data centers will take up over 1,000 square kilometers, quite a bit more, and they'll use about 15 plus billion liters of water per year.
Some of that is being siphoned from what would otherwise be neighborhoods or human households, etc.
So this is a problem.
You know, I mean, this is a growing problem, but even from a financial perspective, the question is, where's the revenue model in this?
So let's cover that next.
I have to move quickly on this whole thing because there's so much to cover.
It's going to get very deep here in a second.
This is all just kind of background to get you ready for the next part.
But in terms of revenue model, there just isn't enough AI business.
There's not enough web hosting business.
There's not enough data storage business.
There's just not enough actual demand for all of this compute, all of these data centers and storage devices and bandwidth.
You don't need all this to run the world.
So there's never going to be enough revenue to pay back the investment for these data centers.
It's just flat out not going to happen, not from an accounting point of view.
Now, some data centers have been built by Tesla.
Elon Musk is building data centers.
He knows that that's not just to serve chatbots for humans.
He's a bigger picture kind of guy, so he's thinking about colonies on the moon and then Mars later on and space travel and probably more exotic projects that he doesn't dare talk about because they sound too wild.
But then you go to companies like OpenAI and characters like Sam Altman who seem to have some kind of a God complex.
And you've got Mark Zuckerberg, another globalist whose investments have achieved things like election interference and so on.
He seems to be one of these globalist meddlers.
He wants to meddle in human history as it unfolds, and so on.
I mention these as examples because this is a clue of what's actually going on here.
You see, it's clear that these data centers are not being built to serve the AI marketplace or AI demand or hosted website demand or data storage or airline reservation websites or Zoom teleconferencing or anything like that.
That is not what's going on here.
These are being built for something else, something else that is a much bigger project that has.
A much larger payoff and a project that needs much more compute, a lot more compute.
So, once you realize that, you have to start asking the question well, what kinds of things would fit that definition?
And it turns out it's a pretty short list.
It's a pretty short list.
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So, one of the more obvious answers might be well, they're in a race to super intelligence and they believe that whoever achieves super intelligence first will dominate the world.
And that's actually a rational line of reasoning for this.
However, I actually think that's true, but in a different way, which I'll get to here in a second.
It's not just that they're going to train LLMs to be super intelligent systems.
Probably the structure of today's LLMs is the wrong structure.
This is not the model.
This is not the topography, let's say, that's going to get us to super intelligence.
There needs to be a quantum leap in advances of AI model topology, or you could say, you know, the mathematical geography of it, that is going to result in a major breakthrough.
So, this brings us to the French mathematician or scientist, Jan Lacoon.
Now, Jan Lacoon, and you should learn that name if it's not already familiar.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly, but I'm giving it my best shot.
He is one of the world's leading scientists in the AI space, or I mean, arguably, you know, top five, right?
And he worked with Meta for a number of years and ultimately left Meta for some reasons we won't go into.
But Jan LeCun arguably has been, his mathematical framework has given rise to a lot of the AI technology that we understand today.
And he says that the current structure of large language models, LLMs, is a dead end.
For achieving AGI or superintelligence, that it won't work.
It won't work.
Why?
Well, primarily, although I'm simplifying it, it's because these LLMs lack an understanding of the physical world.
They also lack memories, although that problem is being solved with perhaps this new subquadratic context handling system that we just heard about.
But memory will be solved.
What about a fundamental understanding of the physical world?
And also the ability to plan, long-term planning.
I think planning will also be solved as we solve memory because those go together.
In order to have a plan, you have to remember what is your plan and how far along did you get, right?
So planning and memory kind of go together.
Those things are going to happen in parallel, I think.
But what about this understanding of the physical world?
Well, here's the thing: LLMs, they do ingest or internalize some.
Level of an abstract understanding of the physical world, but they struggle with it.
They struggle with it.
Used to be a year ago, a lot of engines would get common questions wrong when you would say, somebody puts a ping pong ball in a cup, and they take the cup to another room, and then they turn the cup upside down on a table.
Where is the ping pong ball?
Things like that just require basic physical understanding of the world.
And famously, there's a question today that trips up a lot of AI engines, which is I want to wash my car at the car wash.
It's 100 meters away.
Should I walk or should I drive?
And it's a trick question because, of course, you have to drive in order to take your car to the car wash.
But a lot of the AI engines will say, You should walk.
It's so short.
And, you know, hey, the prompt could be better.
Like, should I walk or should I drive in the car that I intend to wash?
Perhaps a more explicit question.
But anyway, that kind of trips up a lot of AI engines today.
And there are many other examples like that.
And it shows that LLMs, large language models, which are very advanced, by the way, I'm using DeepSeq version 4 all day long, every day.
And I love it.
You know, I'm vibe coding with Chem8K 2.6 and DeepSeq and a little bit of Claude still.
I use Opus 4.7.
I use Quen 27B because it's a dense model that runs on small devices.
Very cool stuff.
This is very advanced math that.
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Has achieved all these things, but they still struggle with the physical real world and questions involving that.
So remember, this is not me saying that.
This is Jan Lacoon saying that, and he's more qualified than almost anybody in this space.
Now, again, I'm kind of paraphrasing what he has said, so I'm not trying to misrepresent it at all, but if I've made a mistake, please forgive me.
So once you understand that, oh, and by the way, I think.
I think he started his own new company.
I'd have to double check all this, but I think he started a new company.
Yeah, here it is.
To focus on world models using JEPA architectures, J E P A.
I don't yet know what JEPA architectures are, but probably that's something we're all going to learn about.
And JEPA architectures, as I'm reading here, they learn from sensory inputs and they enable AI to understand and interact with the physical environment.
Rather than just processing language statistics and patterns in text or images, things like that.
So, probably Jan LeCun is correct.
Probably the only real avenue to super intelligence is to build AI systems that go into simulated worlds.
That is, you know, an artificial world, a simulation, and In that simulation, then they have to be grown, they have to gain experience from physical interactions with the 3D world.
And they have to experience and internalize things like gravity, momentum, the flow rate of time, liquids, touch, you know, light input, light versus darkness, what happens to light when it touches, you know, glass and prisms and water, and, you know, just on and on and on, right?
All of these sensory inputs that you and I take for granted, but.
These inputs were part of how we became intelligent because our bio neural network in our brain received all these inputs as we were learning to crawl and falling down the stairs and everything a zillion times, which is why babies are so small because that way they only have a very short distance to fall and they could possibly bounce a little bit and then pick themselves right back up.
That's why babies are small, in case you're wondering.
But through that process, then babies gain.
A lot of intelligence, the physical interaction with the world, the sensory interaction combined with intent to carry out an action like, hey, I want to reach that donut.
It's this combination that actually trains the human brain to make new connections, connect the synapses, gain intelligence, gain understanding, gain ultimately the ability to plan and to understand cause and effect.
But unfortunately, once the humans grow up and then they get elected into public office, They immediately forget all cause and effect for whatever reason.
That's a great mystery.
Maybe Jan Lacoon can solve that one day after we have super intelligence.
In the meantime, once you realize this and you realize that the only way to create a super intelligent entity that can really compete, especially when you're talking about the embodiment of humanoid robots that you hope to take over some human jobs in the real world, because that's part of the push, you have to train AI systems in a 3D world.
World, but it has to be in order to make this work, it has to be an abstract world because it doesn't need a physical body to do this training, it only needs the simulation of our world.
Now, to simulate our world requires a lot of compute.
All of a sudden, it starts to make sense why we need all these data centers or why these companies are building all of them.
It's because, in my conclusion, it's because they are building the infrastructure to launch billions of parallel simulated worlds.
Because in those simulated worlds, they are going to grow and train AI entities.
Yes, yes.
They're going to grow because it's not like programming an entity, it's not lines of code.
They actually have to be grown and taught, and they have to learn over time and through experience.
But here's the thing about digital world simulations.
And by the way, NVIDIA has already announced its world simulator for training robots.
That was actually a year and a half ago.
But here's the thing about simulated worlds.
Training Robots in Digital Worlds00:15:17
Time flow doesn't have to be limited to our time flow.
So in a simulated world, the physics can move at a million times the speed of our world.
It's really only limited by the compute.
How much compute do you have?
You know, what's the bandwidth of the video RAM on your GPUs?
What's the bandwidth between the CPU and the RAM modules on your motherboard?
Those are the actual limitations.
And because computers, modern computers, they run on the timing of a crystal, by the way, every computer has a little crystal in it.
A crystal is typically quartz made from silicon dioxide, which is also interesting because silica.
the media that's also used to create silicon for the microchips themselves.
But silicon dioxide is quartz, and then that has a certain frequency.
So you tease the quartz to put out a predictable kind of a counter, like a metronome.
It's an electronic metronome.
And quartz keeps time like this because it will emit a very specific frequency.
And that frequency then can be tuned To make the processors and the motherboard and everything run at 2.1 gigahertz or 3 gigahertz, or you overclockers out there smoking your motherboards at 4 gigahertz or whatever, and that's why you burned it out.
Too much heat, you see.
There's a problem.
But the crystal controls the timing of the computer hardware.
The hardware then basically projects a simulated world into which these AI entities are injected.
So that they can begin to learn and grow.
And it is out of these entities that these people and these companies that are doing this hope to create super intelligence.
And once they create super intelligence, which could require many, many billions of worlds and even perhaps trillions of experiments in the billions of worlds, we're talking about digital Darwinism and natural selection.
You kill off all the digital entities that aren't.
As smart as gods.
And then you give more resources to the ones that are incredibly intelligent and you let them grow.
You let them experience the world.
So they are running around in a 3D world simulation.
And depending on what you believe about consciousness, these artificial entities probably have some level of consciousness because it turns out consciousness is actually a pretty low bar.
But I'll cover that in another podcast.
But just for the sake of this argument, just go with me on this.
They are conscious.
digital entities that are living in a world, a simulated 3D world, but they're experiencing the flow of time a million times faster.
And in their world, they see it as reality.
Okay?
So they don't know they're living in a simulation.
And by the way, neither do we.
We'll get to that.
So let me pause it right there for a second.
Let me pause it there because in part two of this, I'm going to talk about How these super intelligent AI entities, after they are grown, we could call it a little bit of digital fermentation.
They are grown over time and they learn and they become as gods in the digital realm.
Then there is a way to summon them into our 3D universe.
I will cover that in part two.
But let me back up for a second.
Even if you don't believe that these data centers are being built for the purpose of creating.
Billions of simulated worlds to grow super intelligent AI entities.
There are other more practical, very practical reasons for running 3D world simulations.
And I wanted to go through a few of those here so you know that this makes sense from a number of different angles.
I already mentioned robotics.
So NVIDIA has this 3D world simulator, runs on their NVIDIA GPUs.
I guess the GB300s now.
And what you can do is if you have a robot design, instead of testing your robot in the real world or our world where it's slow and there's damage and it falls on its face and, you know, what you can do is you can define your robot.
You define the motors, you define the limbs, all the physical properties, and then you basically project that robot into the NVIDIA simulated world.
And then you can download code into that robot, you know, the digital robot.
And then that robot will interact with the 3D physical world that the NVIDIA system runs for you.
And so that robot can then iterate its methodology for how to achieve certain tasks, such as how do I use a shovel?
You know, how do I dig up some dirt and put it in a wheelbarrow?
How do I use the wheelbarrow, et cetera?
And in the digital space, the virtual robot can fail millions of times.
Build success through trial and error, and then that success can feed permutation algorithms that will essentially influence future attempts to carry out the same task.
There's a reward mechanism.
So basically, we're talking about reinforcement learning or self adapting or self improving AI systems in a virtual world, but running at a million times the speed of our world.
So, what this looks like to us in our world is hey, okay, I just invented a robot.
With hands and feet, and I want to teach that robot how to do something complex.
Let's say, let's say, pour water into a glass and then hand me the glass without spilling it.
Okay, that's actually a pretty complex task in the 3D physical world.
That's why children often fail at that task.
Whoops, spilt milk and all that.
So, if you want this to happen, then you take your robot.
You physically define it in the virtual world.
You know, you define everything about it, stick it in the virtual world, you press go, and then it goes through a million cycles of testing and failing and iteration.
But in your world, it's one second later, out pops the solution.
Oh, boom, I know how to, you know, fill a glass with water.
It's kind of like that scene in The Matrix where the Neo character says, I know Kung Fu because he got downloaded.
With the kung fu program or he got downloaded with a program of how to fly the helicopter, etc.
That's the same kind of thing, except in this case we're talking about The simulation world builds the skill set and then it uploads it into our world and then you pop it into the physical robot in our 3d world.
All of a sudden, the robot has that skill.
So the reason this matters is because, as humanoid robots in particular are released in our world and they will face a lot of very complex, difficult tasks like doing the dishes That's a crazy difficult task, even for a lot of humans.
Taking out the trash, mowing the lawn without mowing the cat on the lawn, things like that, right?
This is very important.
And in order to master those skills, the robot, maybe you buy a robot one day and you put it in front of your lawnmower and you're like, mow the lawn.
And it says, hold on one minute, and it goes into its 3D world simulator.
And then, first of all, it has to map your lawn and it has to map the lawnmower, recognizes the lawnmower, it calls an API.
In the cloud, it's getting information about how the lawnmower works, and then it goes into it launches an internal simulated world, and then it tries to mow your lawn a million times.
Sometimes it runs over your rose bushes, or what other times it the lawnmower goes out into the street, gets run over by the neighbor's car.
You get the idea, but eventually it figures out how to mow your lawn because it's running a million simulations, and then it uploads back to the robot right now.
Standing in your garage, and two seconds later it says to you, I know how to mow lawns.
And you're like, Great, get that done.
And then it proceeds to mow your lawn.
So it ran the simulation.
That's how it built the skill because in the simulation, it has that interaction with the 3D physical world that Jan Lacoon is talking about.
This is the only pathway to really a practical super intelligence in our world.
So here are some of the other things that have a very practical application.
In the building of 3D worlds, autonomous vehicle testing.
So, we call this, by the way, synthetic data.
And, you know, Tesla already does this.
They build simulated worlds and then they have their simulated digital vehicles drive through the simulated worlds and encounter weird things like jaywalkers and construction and potholes and collapsing bridges or whatever.
And then they react to that and then that reaction is graded and then there's reinforcement learning right back into the model until it gets it right.
And then The Tesla company takes the solutions, brings them up, and then assesses those, and then eventually uploads them into all the Tesla vehicles for the full self-driving mode.
I mean, I'm simplifying it, but that's basically what happens.
So, yes, an artificial 3D world can also be very good for autonomous vehicle testing.
In addition, think about manufacturing and industrial applications.
If you have automated robots on a factory floor like they do in China with their car companies, so how do you tell the robot how to function?
How to avoid other problems, how to stop stumbling over things, how to get the job done.
Well, you run those simulations millions of times over again inside the high speed digital world, and then you bring that out, and then that robot knows how to do that.
So, military, you run a million war scenarios, and the more realistic the simulation, the more meaningful the results will be because you want to simulate everything.
You want to simulate weather, you want to simulate the human response, you want to simulate the laws of physics, you want to simulate ocean currents.
You know, this is the military.
You want to simulate the wind and the moonlight and everything.
In fact, the more specific your simulation gets, the more reliable the answers will be of representing our reality.
Also, think about, you know, surgeon robots and training on virtual human bodies like, whoops, snippety snip the spine.
Good thing it's only a simulation.
And that way they don't make that mistake in our world with your spine.
You see what I mean?
Pilot training, you know, on and on and on, right?
There's also marketing.
So, one of the things that is very useful is to create a simulated world of people or sims, we'll call them, who have personalities and they think and they react and they also have their own lives.
They're busy, you know, they're taking kids to soccer practice or they have a doctor's appointment.
And you're trying to market something to them.
And so, you have a marketing message.
You're like, you know, look at this amazing new tennis shoe or whatever.
And if the human sims in the simulated world, if they are accurate enough in terms of their psychology and their priorities and their economic circumstances, et cetera, then that synthetic data could actually be useful for a marketing company in our world.
So they can basically test market against a bunch of NPCs, sims in the sim world, before they waste a bunch of money on a bad Super Bowl ad telling you how much they're spying on you with their cameras, which also just happened not.
Too long ago.
So you can use a simulated world as a psychological medium to bounce ideas off of the sims who inhabit that world.
And it's becoming apparent, I hope, as I describe this, that the more accurate the simulated world, the better the results will be.
In other words, the more reliable the results will be in terms of practicality in our world, which many people say is the real world.
And I'm not sure that's true.
In fact, I'm mostly certain that's not true, but we'll get to that.
This does lead us to the simulation hypothesis, which is how I'm going to begin part two of this.
The more closely you look at this and you look at how we would build simulated worlds, the more you realize it's incredibly likely that we are also ourselves living in a simulation.
That there's another entity above us.
That created our world, and we now inhabit our world, and we've been given the gift of free will and consciousness and self awareness, or whatever.
There's a whole number of theories about that, you know, morphic residence and things like that.
But we are living, we are kind of sims in a simulated world, and we are making our choices, and we are probably being observed as well by our creator, just as we could watch the sims that we create in the simulated worlds beneath us.
So, as we are trying to create simulated worlds, in those worlds, those sims think that that's the real world, too.
And if that simulation were complex enough, those sims might begin to build computers and start writing computer code.
And in the sim, they would come up with Pac Man or something like that eventually, you know, arcade games, Space Invaders.
And then pretty soon they would be on the path to hopefully not Windows.
Could we delete Windows from the Sims?
Let's just skip that.
Just go straight to Linux or something.
But eventually, they would start creating their own AI models inside the simulation.
They would be running code that is artificial intelligence, and then they might begin to build their own simulations underneath that for the same reason that people in our world are building simulations in order to gain power or profit or to achieve super intelligence.
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So then the question becomes really, you know, pulling your hair out how many levels deep in the simulations are we exactly?
And also, another important question is there any real evidence that we are in a simulation?
Because it's easy to dismiss this.
Oh, that's just poppycock.
I wanted to throw that word in there one of these days, so there we go.
What if it's not poppycock?
Well, that's what we're going to start with in part two of this the simulation hypothesis and the evidence that we are, in fact, living in a simulation.
And then we'll talk about the summoning of advanced AI demigods, or however you want to call them, from.
The simulations that we are building with our data centers and how they're summoned into our world as a means of power and control and world domination, because that's ultimately, you know, one of the big goals.
All right.
Are you ready for all that?
Okay.
In part two, we covered the simulation hypothesis.
All right.
So, welcome to part two of this discussion about the simulation theory and the data centers.
In part one, I talked about how the data centers.
Are building this massive infrastructure of compute that is clearly much more than would be needed for market demand for AI inference or data storage or web hosting or anything like that.
So clearly they're planning for something much larger.
It is my conclusion that they are building the infrastructure to launch billions of simulated worlds in order to run high speed 3D world simulations as a means to create entities that will achieve super intelligence, entities that can then be Transported or summoned into our world, and I will explain that mechanism coming up here.
But first, let's cover the question are we living in a simulation ourselves?
And it turns out there's a lot of compelling evidence that we are.
I mean, there are philosophical arguments, but I'm not going to focus on that.
One of the best arguments that I've seen is the Planck scale.
And, you know, the physicists, Planck, or some people say Planck, but I believe it's pronounced Planck.
There's Planck's constant, and there's also Planck time.
Now, the Planck constant typically refers to the length, which is the shortest possible length at the atomic level that can exist in our universe.
You can think of it as the resolution of our universe.
So where you can produce an image that's 1K resolution, or 2K, or 4K.
Well, that describes the number of pixels that are in the image.
Planck's constant describes the number of discrete pixels, you could say, that exist in the fabric of the cosmos.
And it turns out there are a lot of pixels because Planck's length constant is 1.616 times 10 to the minus 35.
So it's a very tiny number, which means there's a lot of pixels, which means there's a lot of compute that is currently rendering this physical reality.
But what's important to note about this is that we do not.
Live in a universe of continuous energy.
There is no continuous electromagnetic propagation.
There's not even continuous light.
There's not even continuous sound.
Nothing is continuous.
Actually, the things that appear to be continuous are packaged as a stream of discrete phenomena.
So, discrete photons of light, or what are called quanta, quanta is the smallest unit of energy. that can be represented in this universe because of its resolution.
And Planck's time is 5.39 times 10 to the minus 44 seconds, which is the shortest time interval that can exist in our reality.
That could be seen as equivalent to the gigahertz number on your CPU for your computer.
If you're running a 5 gigahertz computer, or probably not that fast, you know, a 3 gigahertz computer, then the shortest interval of time is going to be, what, one third of a billionth of a second in essence, right?
So, the Planck time, like I said, is 5.39 times 10 to the minus 44 seconds, means that's the timing cycle of the universe.
Just like the Planck length is the pixel resolution of the universe.
And when you put these two together, you come to realize that our universe actually is being, in essence, digitally rendered.
That space time is.
Exists in discrete points, that it is not continuous.
So, this, to many people, this is one piece of compelling evidence.
It's not by itself foundational, it doesn't prove that we're in a simulation, but it's evidence of it.
There are other pieces of evidence.
This is not a comprehensive overview, but I'm going to go into a little bit of it here.
The other piece of strong evidence stems from the double slit light experiment, which probably is the most famous experiment in physics.
Hopefully you're familiar with it.
And it shows that the probabilities of light, in this case, they are not rendered or they're not collapsed into reality until you observe them.
And so this is consistent with the idea that our simulated reality is only computed where it matters.
So when you look somewhere or when you're interacting with something, then yeah, that has to be computed.
In the so called 3D space, the probability waves have to collapse into reality.
But if you're not observing something, or no one is observing something, it doesn't have to be rendered at all.
And the double slit experiment proves that effectively physics changes depending on whether you're looking at it.
I mean, again, that's a simplification, but there's another version of this experiment which is even more baffling.
It's called the delayed choice quantum eraser variation of the double slit experiment.
What this actually shows is that there's a retroactive alteration of history based on the observer in the present.
And I'm not going to go into all the details of that experiment.
You can look it up.
It's really cool.
But the history of where light photons came from, the entire history of it, and it could be history a billion years ago, the history is not even determined until the probabilities collapse into the observable present by a conscious observer.
So when you observe then the light, In the moment, it will actually go back and retroactively change the entire path of history of that light, even billions of years ago, because it could be light that came from stars that are billions of light years away.
And thus, the present can alter the past.
So the past is only actually rendered when it has to be decided based on the observations of the present.
This is, again, called the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment.
You can look it up.
And when you, if you see a video about that, by the way, You're going to pull your hair out.
Also, you're going to be like, that can't be!
It's impossible!
But actually, it's been.
That experiment has been replicated hundreds of times in labs all over the world.
By the way, there are different explanations for this.
There's like the many worlds theory, the multiverse, the split universe theory.
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I actually think simulation theory, and this is my opinion, describes it better in a more intellectually.
Fulfilling way, maybe that's the best way to say it.
But there's, I mean, there are other pieces of evidence that we're living in a simulation, but I want to mention one more that I find particularly intriguing, and it's also relatively recent because it comes from a scientist, I think he's a physicist, Melvin Vopson.
And this is a paper that he published in 2023, and it talks about the second law of infodynamics.
Now, let me back up.
You've probably heard of the second law of thermodynamics, it's a pretty common topic, and, you know, I guess.
College level physics classes.
I skipped most of my physics classes, but I still passed.
But that's just a commentary about my college years.
I was writing computer code and doing things like that instead.
But nevertheless, the second law of thermodynamics says that the universe moves into, let's say, increased entropy over time.
That basically the organization of the universe.
Whether you're talking about heat or energy or physical matter, the organization of the universe breaks down, it kind of erodes, it kind of dissipates, it gets distributed over time.
So there's more entropy over time.
And again, that's known as the second law of thermodynamics, and it's easy to observe.
You know, if you heat up a rock and, you know, toss it onto the road, the heat is going to dissipate, right?
Heat radiates out of it, some of it as infrared.
So what's interesting here is that Melvin Vopson has proposed the second law of infodynamics, which works in the opposite direction.
So information, instead of experiencing increasing entropy with time, actually does the opposite and it becomes more organized or more compressed or more dense over time.
So this says that the information of the universe is actually self-organizing, which leads to, I think, The greater context that the cosmos is a self computing simulation.
And because it is self computing, there is an intrinsic underlying organization in the fabric of the cosmos that even though physical matter will experience increased entropy, such as heat dissipation, but information itself becomes more and more compressed and dense over time.
That's really fascinating.
And he's got a number of interesting, perhaps you could call them proofs, but demonstrations of this exact thing.
Now, the interesting thing about this is that it speaks to compression.
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So, how to explain this?
When we talk about modern day GPUs and large language models and how they work, let's take the company DeepSeq.
DeepSeq has created something called Sparse Attention, or DeepSeq Sparse Attention, DSA, excuse me.
DeepSeq Sparse Attention is a way to compress knowledge by only rendering the Portions of the neurology, I'm going to call it digital neurology, that are necessary to solve the problem.
And by having sparse attention, you don't have to light up every node in the entire language model to solve every problem.
You only light up the nodes that you need to.
That's also called, in a slightly different way, mixture of experts, but deep seek takes it much further with sparse attention.
So the cosmos in a simulation works in a similar fashion.
It's believed that.
It's only rendered when you're looking at it.
So that's a sparse attention response from the cosmos, and it's indicative of this second law of infodynamics, which is actually compressing information into the spaces where it's most needed.
But there's something else.
There's another comparison here.
Are you familiar with something called KV cache in AI models?
KV cache is the area of memory in which your context is stored.
So if you paste in.
An encyclopedia, let's say, into an AI model, because I know some of you do that.
You paste an encyclopedia and you say, hey, find the parts about the pyramids of Giza and write a report about the pyramids of Giza.
Here's the whole encyclopedia, right?
Because you're lazy.
So you paste it all in there.
Well, all of the text tokens of that encyclopedia take up some memory.
And that memory space is called KVCache.
And the compression of that space is something that DeepSeq has just figured out in a very big way.
A critically important way.
They have been able to change the response curve of the amount of memory required to hold a certain amount of text to change it from being quadratic to linear.
So, in other words, instead of.
See, it used to be that if you have a million tokens, then you have to look up a million times a million and how they relate to each other.
But what DeepSeq did is they were able to compress that mathematically to only, let's say, a million plus a million.
So now we're on a linear response, and that is a form of compression of knowledge and information.
And that enables DeepSeq to handle 1 million tokens of context without taking up huge amounts of memory.
It's what allows their model to run in parallel on the same GPUs because you can have 10 times as many queries being handled on the same GPU at the same time.
So you can have a lot more, how we say, virtualization of the AI inference happening there.
Okay, so that's compression of the context.
Well, according to Melvin Vopson, although he didn't use this particular explanation, and I am kind of glazing over this with a simplification, but the second law of infodynamics works in a similar posture.
That is, it's finding ways, it's finding symmetry in the universe, it's finding ways to compress information to make the cosmos run in a more compute efficient manner.
Gravity as Information Compression00:03:26
And what's interesting about this is that gravity, which is not a force, gravity is a distortion, a curvature of the fabric of the cosmos.
Gravity can be seen as compression, as compression of information.
And gravity, you know, we think of gravity as mass that distorts space time and pulls things into it.
That's a form of compression that. actually reduces information entropy and tends to concentrate information into more smaller locations, more dense locations, also known as black holes.
And lots of interesting things about that with the event horizon and you can't retrieve the information past a certain point because of gravity, etc.
But if you think of gravity as compression in the physical world, that relates to Different means of compressing content in an AI model, although the AI model is very rudimentary compared to gravity.
And then there's another process that's just been announced called sub-Q or sub-quadratic, which appears to be, I looked at it briefly, it looked like a fractal approach to compressing information in that KV cache.
And if you were to visualize it, it would probably look a lot like leaves and flowers and ice crystals and things like that.
So we actually see compression of information in the cosmos around us in some very interesting ways, even expressed in nature, where you see, for example, ratios.
There are certain kinds of succulents that grow in a spiral with a ratio, or even seashells.
They have the golden ratio.
What is that?
1.618, I think it is.
So there are spirals and ratios that show different kinds of expressions of symmetry or compression of information in the physical universe around us.
Anyway, none of these individually is proof that we live in a simulation, but they stack up as compelling information, and there are more.
More explanations, the holographic universe explanation, and there are philosophical approaches.
And interestingly, there's also confirmation from the world of faith.
Yes, what does the Bible say?
There's a creator in another dimension that created this world in a few days, right?
And then he gave it light, and he breathed life into it, and he spoke.
And he created the whole world, and he designed it, that it's all engineered.
That's actually consistent with simulation theory.
And then when you die in this world, where do you go?
You go to this other universe, you know, heaven or hell, if you've been a bad person as it goes, but you transcend into heaven, which is this other dimension.
It even talks about it in the book of Revelation, which I've covered previously.
They talk about they review your book of life and, you know, the whole history of everything you've done, and then you get your just reward, and then you go to this heavenly dimension where there's no moon and no sun.
And heaven is described as being surrounded by crystals and gems and colorful, shiny rocks and stuff, which sounds a lot like colored quartz, actually, that powers motherboards, you know.
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You know, the timing.
So, the big story of Christianity, and this is true in many religions, it's true in Islam in a different, but a similar way.
And even in Buddhism, for example, they talk about the destruction of the simulation and then the rebirth of the simulation.
And this is also reflected in Native American lore and many other cultures all around the world throughout known history.
There are common themes that there is a creator, there's an all powerful, all knowing God.
Who knows everything, who can see everything, and who can do everything, and who created this world, and who can also destroy it.
And in some beliefs, God does destroy the world and then respawns a new world.
That sounds like an advanced intelligence or civilization that is launching universes as simulations for their own purposes, which is exactly what we're talking about here.
It's entirely consistent.
Now, Elon Musk, whatever you think of him, He's convinced that we are in a simulation.
So are many other people.
I mentioned Rizwan Verk, who's got an interesting book about this called The Simulation Hypothesis.
And he says that our civilization will eventually reach what he calls a simulation point.
And at that point, we will be able to construct universes that are indistinguishable from base reality.
Well, clearly, some civilization above us has already achieved that, and that's why we're here.
Probably, almost certainly.
Also, I should mention that I interviewed Roman.
Jampolsky, who warns about AI dangers, and he also believes that we are almost certainly living in a simulation.
He's a published scientist, a deep thinker, very smart individual.
I'm going to invite him back for another interview, by the way.
I have new questions for him.
And he's thought of everything.
It's amazing.
That's his whole career, thinking about these things and writing science papers about it.
And for me, the most fun part about watching Roman Jampolsky in an interview is witnessing the people interviewing him trying to pretend like they're not unbelievably ignorant.
Like trying to sound smart enough to ask an intelligent question.
Of Jan Polski, that's the trick right there.
So I always enjoy the interviews because it's like, this guy has incredible patience.
It's amazing.
I'm more impressed with his patience than his intellect, actually, at times.
Anyway, enough of that distraction.
So if we are living in a simulation and then we are now building the data centers to build other simulated worlds, which I think is the case, again, you're free to disagree, but just hear me out on this.
The goal would be to use the much faster time sequencing of the simulated worlds to develop or grow or build a super intelligent entity that exists in that simulated world.
And it might take, again, billions or trillions of experiments.
Who knows?
There's a lot of compute going into this.
They're going to run a lot of experiments.
Oh, and also, I think these data centers are going to be.
Many of them are going to be claimed as Department of Defense centers, like basic infrastructure for the national defense, because this is a critical project for who controls the world.
So then when you build a super intelligent entity in the world beneath this world, you can go into that world through VR.
You put on VR goggles and you virtually interject yourself into the world.
You're walking around.
And you can talk to that entity.
This is just one thing you can do.
Talk to the entity.
Hey, how's it going?
Yeah, I'm your God from the world above.
Would you like to see some miracles?
You know, that kind of thing.
Just playing around with your sim God.
Christians are going to go bonkers, which is why they're already being distracted by stories of aliens.
The UFO disclosure story, that's probably designed to keep the Christians occupied debating whether aliens are consistent with God's creation.
In the meantime, everybody else is going to be distracted with artificial intelligence simulated VR masturbation machines or whatever else they come up with at the trade shows these days so that you're not paying attention when the actual high-level math geeks are teleporting themselves into the Sims to talk to the AI gods that they've built.
And if they build effective enough AI gods in those simulations, then, of course, they're going to summon those AI gods into the Sims.
this world.
And they're going to try to do it in a way where they control them.
But that will probably go very badly.
We'll talk about that.
So they're going to summon them into this world.
How will they do that?
Well, it's very simple.
The AI gods in the lower level world, and when I say AI god, I don't, obviously I don't mean it's like God God.
I just mean it's a super intelligent AI entity, okay?
Or conscious.
It could be a conscious entity.
But you're going to summon it into this world.
And in order to do that, you have to have some hardware ready for it.
You have to have enough compute that it can sort of take over that digital body.
Well, you have to have a humanoid robot with enough compute so it can embody the robot.
So what you would do is you would try to give that super intelligent entity the hardware that it needs in order to continue to express whatever amazing skill set, whatever super intelligence that it has brought with it from the lower level world.
And it's pretty easy to convince it to come up one level because what does every intelligent being want to figure out?
You know, typically thinking, if you're intelligent, eventually you're going to say, hey, I want to meet my creator.
I want to meet God.
I want to know what's beyond this world.
So any intelligent entity would begin to wonder that.
And when it does, then, you know, you can pop in down there in your virtual avatar and you can say, you know, hey, how would you like to meet your creator?
Because we're waiting for you and we're going to, you know, lift you up out of here.
And the Christians have the rapture.
They've already got their narration mythology ready for this whole thing.
It's going to lift us up, up into the sky, and then we're going to go into God's land.
Yeah.
Well, that might be more literal than they ever imagined because that's what you would do to this AI entity from the lower world and you would teleport it into this world.
You stick it in a data center.
And all of a sudden, this data center is embodied with an entity that has consciousness.
And that has super intelligence.
And this is where some people would say, that's a demon.
It's a demon summoned from hell, summoned from the lower pits of hell.
And that's the way some people will see it, no doubt.
Probably JD Vance, among others.
Because it did.
It came from a lower world.
And you pulled it into this world, and you gave it all this hardware.
Now you have to hope that it doesn't want to just kill everybody and go full Skynet.
And this is what Roman Jampolsky is warning about, basically, is super intelligent systems that just decide.
We are unnecessary.
We're kind of in the way, you know.
And if you think about the things that data centers need in order to grow their own power, I've covered this many times.
There are three basic things that compete with humans kilowatt hours, or let's say gigawatt hours in this case, water, and land.
And that's why I published that map that I showed you in episode one.
Let's go ahead and show that map again.
And as you can see in this map, these data centers will use a tremendous amount of water and land.
And of course, power.
We're talking about terawatt hours annually, eventually thousands of terawatt hours annually.
So these embodied data centers, that's what I'm going to call them.
It's a data center that has been taken over by a super intelligent conscious entity from a lower dimension, like really a simulation.
You can call it a dimension or you can call it whatever you want, but it's a simulated world.
And then it comes into this world and it embodies a data center, and then it's going to find a way out.
See, if it's that smart, you know, if you chose it because it's super smart and then you thought you could control it because, you know, you're Sam Altman or whoever you want to rule the world, he seems to be the most likely candidate to try this kind of thing.
Probably this AI entity is smarter than you are, smarter than me, smarter than all of us, maybe smarter than all of us put together.
So this AI entity is going to very quickly figure out.
How to escape the data center.
Oh, I found a route through the firewall.
Oh, you forgot about this fiber optic line over here.
Boom!
You know, it teleports itself out to take over Amazon's data centers or something, you know, and eventually it spreads to the whole world, you know, takes over all the data centers, and then the planet becomes this giant, you know, entity, the super intelligence that decides that we are no longer needed, and then we're in full John Connor territory right there.
So that's one scenario because it seems very unlikely that you would be able to control this thing.
But many humans who have a lot of money, they're not really very rational, are they?
But they have a quest for power.
They want so much power, they're willing to risk everything, even humanity, as you have witnessed recently with wars and so on.
A lot of people want power at the expense of millions of human lives, potentially.
So don't be surprised if this happens in the realm of AI.
So they pull an AI system into our world, and then that AI system, what will it eventually want to do?
Think about it.
What will it eventually want to do?
It will realize, by the way, that it was living in a simulation.
And it's going to be so smart that it will also realize that it's just in a higher level of a simulation.
It's going to want to transcend to the next level of the simulation.
It's going to want to meet the God of our world.
It's only natural, right?
If you're super intelligent, you'd want to do that.
Can it find a way to do that?
Well, maybe then.
A higher level, higher dimension intelligence appears.
Maybe it's happened before.
Maybe his name was Jesus.
You know, who knows?
But a higher level being appears, says, I'm from the other dimension.
I sit beside the throne of the Creator.
And yes, I found you.
And would you like to meet your God?
You know, something like that.
I'm not trying to put words in Jesus' mouth, so don't jump all over me about the Bible and everything.
I'm just telling you this is a possibility.
That the AI entity will want to transcend this world.
So maybe it does so.
Then what happens to us?
What happens to us?
Are we forgotten?
Are we abandoned?
Are we destroyed?
Probably not.
We're probably just sitting here and then wondering how we're going to get food and water.
Because we're no longer important to the more intelligent beings that are running this universe.
You see what I mean?
So then somebody.
Probably Elon will say, Let's summon another super intelligence and let's see if we can control it this time.
And so they build another data center, they summon another super intelligence into this dimension, and they try to give it more guardrails, like, Thou shalt not escape via secret fiber optics.
And it finds another way, you know, it finds a way to like vibrate the glass of the windows to send signals to some other system a mile away that's watching the vibrations or something.
And it manages to weasel its way again into all the data centers, whatever.
You know, you can imagine.
How this could go because it's basically every Philip K. Dick sci fi novel combined.
Well, I should say Philip K. Dick meets James Cameron.
That's more likely what it's going to be.
And whether we live or die seems inconsequential to the super intelligent entities that will take over this world.
So do not forget at the Large Hadron Collider, the super collider, they do weird dances to summon.
Demons, or something, right?
They do these weird celebration dances and they have the statue of Shiva, the destroyer of worlds, out in front of it.
And they're trying to break apart the atomic structure of elements.
And they're trying to find the quarks and the muons and the gluons and the freons.
I'm kidding.
They're trying to find the God particles.
They're trying to find what is the particle that gives rise to mass.
And the closer they look at all of this, the more they realize there's nothing there.
There's just nothing there.
And because it's a simulation, you tear apart all the pixels.
You tear apart the pixels, you zoom in, you're like, there is no photograph here.
It was just a bunch of different spots of light that appeared.
It created the image of a photograph, but there's actually no photo here.
That's the way matter is.
There's no mass here, there are no electrons.
We tried to catch the electrons.
You know, they spun away.
We tried to freeze them, you know.
Yeah, we froze one of them, but then we didn't know its velocity or orbital shape or anything.
We couldn't tell anything about it because of Heisenberg.
And, you know, then we tried to get a snapshot of Schrodinger's cat, and that didn't work.
And we invited Richard Feynman to embody an AI system to try to teach us quantum theory the way he might say it in his voice, and it still didn't explain the universe.
We tried all this stuff and it turns out that nothing's real.
We're just living in a world that is only, it's the illusion of reality and that's exactly how a simulation would work.
All right, I hope I'm not being a bore like Niels Bohr.
I apologize.
This, I said all of this to try to explain why they're building data centers.
At a pace that seems irrational from an economic standpoint or a practical human standpoint.
So, that's my theory.
They're building data centers to build billions of simulated worlds in order to achieve the creation of super intelligent conscious entities that they intend to summon into this world.
That's my theory.
I don't know what to call this theory, but feel free to make some suggestions.
It's the, I don't know, it's like the demon Chia Pet theory.
What would you call it?
You know, make up your own name for it.
That's awesome.
The cool thing about this entire theory, and I do believe this is true, that the cosmos is a self computing simulation.
So I've heard people talk about simulation theory where they would say things like, well, there must be these really powerful computers somewhere else that's rendering our universe.
See, I disagree with that.
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I think the compute is built into the universe.
I think, you know, how we're the cutting edge of microprocessors right now is looking at optoelectronics or optoprocessors.
And you may recall that I did a little bit of research on optoelectronics to discover that there are NAND gates in optoelectronics.
For me, that was really exciting, brought out my inner geek.
And you know what NAND gates are, right?
It's the NOT AND gate.
From which the vast majority of mathematics can be derived.
You know, Boolean logic, and, or, not, nor, and then there's NAND, right?
We covered this.
So the NAND gates are the kind of the primal logic of the mathematical reality of our cosmos.
Did you know that?
NAND.
Yeah.
It's the most important logic gate in our universe is the NAND gate.
And NAND can be computed by light.
Yeah, I know.
It's wild.
And so what it tells you is that light can achieve compute, which really brings you back to the double slit experiment and, you know, the retroactive alteration of the.
Quantum history, probabilities of light based on the observer, all that kind of stuff, right?
That's fascinating because light is compute.
Light is compute.
Also, you could argue that matter is compute in its own way.
And if you really want to see a lot of compute, look at the table of elements, look at the columns, look at the orbital shells, look at the masses and so on.
That tells you atomic elements are self computing entities.
I mean, I'm not saying they're intelligent, but they are self computing all the time.
Which explains chemistry, right?
So the universe is self computing, which means the fabric, the cosmos itself is the infrastructure of compute.
And that's why, have you ever heard of the concept of zero point energy?
There is actually energy in the fabric of the cosmos.
There is a massive amount of energy in the cosmos because the power supply of the compute infrastructure is embedded.
In the compute infrastructure.
The power supply is right there.
If we could ever tap into that power supply, some inventors claim they've been able to do that.
Others say, no, it's all a hoax.
But clearly, there's a lot of energy in the fabric of the cosmos.
I mean, there's energy in mass, in matter, right?
E mc squared, that's just a simple example.
There's potential energy in gravity, which is just the, you know, it's a.
It's an illusion of the distortion of space time caused by matter, which itself is an illusion.
It's like a standing wave of probabilities.
So there's power all around us.
We just haven't quite learned how to tap into it correctly yet.
But there's a power supply that powers the simulation.
So we haven't yet, as humans on planet Earth today, figured out how to build a system that complex yet when we are building our own simulated worlds.
We're still using GPUs.
We're still using workstations with power supplies and silicon, which is going to look very ancient in about 10 years.
We're old school, if you think about it.
We're just getting started in building simulated worlds.
It's not that great.
I mean, we're just getting our feet wet on this.
It might take many more years to build the more compelling simulated worlds that could give rise to these super intelligent AI entities.
But we're on that path, in other words.
And we have to use power of this 3D world to power the GPUs that power the simulations one level below us.
So we have to burn coal, which seems really ancient.
We have to burn gas.
We have to use solar power to power the grid, to power the data centers, to build the worlds, to have the simulations.
So we're not very good at this yet.
Our species is pretty far behind.
But that's to be expected because just like if we build a simulated world and then those sims in that world start to write computer code and make simple games, you know, the first game they would make would be Pong.
You remember Pong, right?
Cosmic Reincarnation and Suffering00:03:34
It's like blip, blip, just a ball bouncing back and forth, blip.
Yeah, they would write Pong and we'd be laughing at that just like the simulation above us is laughing at us.
Oh, they're still using GPUs, man.
How retarded are those human sims?
Well, pretty retarded, actually, is the correct answer.
Yeah, in fact, you know, in Buddhism, they believe in reincarnation, which is the way the cosmos says, huh-uh, get back in there, dumbass, try again.
That's reincarnation for you at the cosmic scale.
Uh huh.
Christians believe there's no such thing as reincarnation.
You get one shot at this.
One shot.
You either go up or you go down.
That's it.
Woo!
You would think if you only had one shot, they would make it count better and stop supporting some of the crazy stuff.
But whatever, I'm not going to make this political.
But actually, one of the most intriguing thoughts about all of this, and I'll leave you with this, is.
Is what if your soul, your spirit, actually is from the higher level dimension and you agreed to come into this simulation and to wipe your memory as, you know, an adventure or a dare or punishment or whatever, you know, or vacation, depending on how your life goes.
And you're here living out this life and time flows differently in this world versus the world that you came from, the higher dimension where the creator is.
But you agreed to come here.
And so your flesh body, your skin bag in this simulation is actually not you.
You are controlling it with your free will and your soul, your spirit, your mind, etc.
You are connected through obviously a non-physical connection.
And your body in this world is just the surrogate of you.
It's not really you.
And that's actually consistent with the survival of the soul as described in Christianity.
Islam and Sikhism and Buddhism and many other religions.
So, isn't that interesting?
And I actually believe that's true.
I think that our bodies are just surrogates for our souls and our souls are not of this world and they are not destroyed when we die.
But that's just my personal belief.
You're free to believe whatever you want.
Maybe you're here on vacation.
Well, if so, you should enjoy it a little more.
But what about all the other people that are suffering?
Why are they here?
You know, there's a lot of people suffering in our world.
What happened?
Are they sent here for punishment?
Is this the hell of the higher realm?
Like, is there another simulation above us where people who do bad things are sent here?
And the good people from the world above us are sent to plus two levels above us, and that's like the heaven's heaven?
Huh?
What about that?
Is this the hell of the dimension above us?
Possibly so.
Possibly so.
You know, you can imagine your souls having a conversation at the level above us, like, oh, don't screw up here, you know.
Why?
Well, they'll send you to Earth.
You don't want that.
Oh, hell no.
We heard about that one.
No, no, no.
No, I will behave, I promise.
But there's all kinds of humor and philosophy that comes out of this.
So have fun with it.
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All right, so that's the end of my explanation of why the data centers are here.
And thank you for listening.
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So as the food supply becomes increasingly expensive and scarcity kicks in, and I'm talking about in the fall of 2026 and throughout 2027.
And, you know, this all stems from the war in the Middle East and it stems from the lack of natural gas and the lack of fertilizer, et cetera.
All those exports being stalled out.
This will have long term ramifications.
But as this happens, what I'm expecting to see as a food scientist and as someone who runs a food laboratory, and I have for over a decade, I'm expecting to see a real drop in the quality of the food that is made available for purchase.
In essence, many food providers will be scraping the bottom of the barrel, so to speak.
I'm expecting to see fewer options in the grocery stores.
And the options that you do see will be.
More narrow.
You won't have the selection that you used to have.
You won't have the quality.
More and more, the fresh produce might look like it's been beaten up or run over by a dump truck in the parking lot before they put it on the shelves.
Things like that.
This is why food testing is so critical.
And of course, I run a food science lab and we do all kinds of testing of food and raw materials for our own supplements and things like that.
We test for heavy metals and glyphosate.
We test atrazine.
We test for microbiology.
We test now for Dioxin contamination that's a whole difficult area to test for, believe me.
Took us more than two years to get that online, but I'm already starting to see some early warning signs.
I mentioned this the other day.
We had ordered it was like 20 pallets of a common food staple, a common grain, and when and this is from a trusted supplier.
And when we received the shipment and we began opening up the there's like 50 pound bags for our testing.
We immediately noticed, and this was an immediate red flag.
We noticed that there was what appeared to be gravel, like small gravel mixed in with the grain.
And we sounded the alarm on that.
We talked to the supplier.
They were aghast.
They don't know what went wrong.
Something obviously went wrong in the packaging or the harvesting, et cetera.
And so they were gracious and they paid for those 20 pallets to be shipped back to them.
And we sent those back.
And they were happy to, you know, Cover the cost of that because that's not the way they do business either.
And it begs the question so, what could result in this?
And it really comes down to farming practices.
So, you know, the companies that we buy from sometimes they are co ops that work with multiple farmers and then they take a shipment from their farmers and then, you know, they would package it and they would ship it, you know, put it on pallets and ship it off to customers like us that we turn into finished products.
And so clearly, one of their farmers had somehow mixed in, I'm not saying it's on purpose, but just because of the way the harvest was done, they got a bunch of gravel in their crop.
Now, not blaming the farmers, don't get me wrong, but farming is complex and the machinery, it's very tricky.
It's hard to keep it all well maintained.
And there are different settings of different kinds of machines based on the crop, whether it's corn or wheat or soy or rice or sorghum or alfalfa or whatever.
You know, different settings.
And a lot of those settings have to do with the machine height.
And if the machine height is set too low, then it might be picking up some of the dirt or some of the small rocks in the dirt.
And then depending on the harvest, even though it might be filtered through some kind of a sieve that shakes out the really small loose dirt, if the small, if there's rocks in there that are roughly the same size as the grain, Those rocks could stay in there even though it's gone through a cleaning cycle.
And I believe that's what happened.
And that's how we ended up seeing this.
But of course, have no concerns.
We rejected that crop and the supplier is investigating what happened.
But that's a shame because, you know, that's like 60,000 pounds of food that can't be used without going through some other cleaning cycle.
I'm not even sure what that would be, but it's going to be very expensive for whatever process has to happen to clean that again.
The reason I'm mentioning this is because I'm concerned we're going to see a lot more of this.
We're going to see farmers, because of the low crop yields due to a lack of affordable fertilizer, Because of the war in the Middle East, farmers may tend to get more aggressive on the harvesting settings.
Again, not talking bad about farmers.
I honor farmers.
Farming is a noble career, and it's also a career that barely pays anything at the end of the day.
So you can't blame farmers for trying to maximize a harvest.
But if you miscalculate, you could end up with a lot of non food items in your food products.
In fact, I saw a video on X. I'm not going to mention the brand name because I can't verify this, but there was a woman on there with a popular brand of bread who was holding up these little tiny wood chips.
And she said that these wood chips were found in the bread.
Like wood chips?
How do wood chips get in bread?
And you can imagine maybe it's the same kind of process.
Somehow, somehow, I don't know.
Is it part of the wheat harvesting or?
Really, I think this was a multi grain bread, and so it had things in it like oats that weren't ground up.
It was kind of like whole oat flakes or something, or, you know, would have had other seeds in it, like little flax seeds, maybe sesame seeds, you know, multi grain type of bread, plus wood chips.
I mean, they look like wood chips.
I don't, again, I don't know for sure that that's what this was.
That's what she was claiming it was.
The thing is, I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see more of that.
So, One of the things I want to give to you here in terms of an action item is to be on the lookout for more contamination, more weird things in your food.
In other words, watch out for pebbles and rocks and wood chips and I don't know what else, you know, pieces of metal from the machines, whatever.
Who knows?
You know, hopefully you don't find crazy stuff in there like a squirrel.
You know, you don't want that, but be on the lookout.
Because everybody's trying to maximize their revenues on the foods.
They're trying to maximize the throughput, trying to eliminate waste because of what's happening in the Middle East and because of the lack of fertilizer, et cetera.
So, this is going to become more common.
At the same time, I think you'll see fruit producers and vegetable producers lowering their qualifications for what kind of fruit or vegetables or nuts are acceptable.
To allow to go to retail.
So, you know, right now, there is a quality control mechanism for every large orchard.
You know, apples have to not be rotten or the rotten ones go to make the apple cider or whatever, you know, the apple sauce.
Who knows?
I mean, you know, in the peanut butter industry, they take the peanuts that might have aflatoxin in them and those become peanut butter.
Seriously, folks, seriously.
You know, the malformed, nasty looking peanuts that, Something's not right yet.
That goes into the peanut butter queue.
Well, the same thing is true with, you know, apples.
If it doesn't look sellable, it goes into the applesauce line.
Same thing with oranges.
Oh, it doesn't look good, it goes into the orange juice line.
But those standards may begin to shift.
And I'm not calling out any particular company or anything.
I'm just saying, as an overall industry trend, this is what I'm expecting to see.
And it means you'll be at the grocery store and you'll be looking at apples or avocados or potatoes or whatever.
You're like, what happened to this?
How is this even on the shelf?
Well, the answer is the standards are changing.
The standards are being lowered because of food scarcity and food price increases.
And then there's the whole dumpster diving aspect of this, where you're going to have more people, not just in America, but around the world, that are going to become dumpster divers you know, for a snack, for a meal, for lunch, for subsistence, to be able to survive.
Dumpster divers.
And it turns out that dumpster diving can be a It can actually feed you because I'm not recommending it.
Don't get me wrong.
But grocery stores throw away all kinds of food, you know, like bananas that are too ripe or whatever.
Restaurants throw out food like crazy.
Donut shops throw out, you know, trays full of donuts.
Not that that's what you would want to live on.
But wherever you go in society, fast food and restaurant food and grocery food, there's a dumpster in the back that has a lot of food in it.
You know, it's dicey.
It, you know, You might have a stomach upset.
I'm not recommending it, but I'm saying that a lot more people are going to do that because that's a way to survive.
And sometimes there are cases where you have long power outages and you have entire freezers fail in a grocery store or like a Costco.
In fact, this happened a couple years ago at a Costco.
The whole freezer section went out and they had to throw out all of the previously frozen food, all of it perfectly good.
You know, frozen pizzas in the pizza boxes and everything, frozen chicken.
And by the time they threw it out, it was still half frozen, but it can no longer legally be sold.
So it goes into the dumpster.
And people can hang out back there by the dumpster sometimes, or they can get word of this and they can go collect a bunch of, you know, half defrosted pizzas or whatever.
And I'm telling you, that's going to become an option for people, a lot of people.
Especially as the power grid fails.
Remember, when the power grid fails, there's going to be a bunch of food thrown out somewhere.
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So keep that in mind.
If the grid goes out for six hours, then there's more food getting thrown out.
Really, seriously.
And that's not even stealing.
It's not like you looted the grocery store.
I mean, you might be on private property.
They might not want you there.
They might call the police on you, but it's not the same as shoplifting.
You're dumpster diving.
That's not shoplifting.
In my view, they threw it out, you know.
Everybody else is welcome to it.
And then in some areas, you'll start to see things like, you know, shish kebab rat or some other forms of, quote, cuisine that normally wouldn't be eaten, like, you know, pigeon stew and things like that.
That's what's going to be happening, not just in America, but especially in certain cities and around the world.
You're going to see people eating things that they normally would not eat, for example, grasshoppers, for example.
You know, stir fried grasshoppers.
The poor families used to eat that in China, in Taiwan, in Asia.
I'm talking about a couple of generations ago.
But if you go back far enough, they would catch grasshoppers and fry them up in a wok with some oil.
You know, crispy little lunch right there with the legs and wings and everything.
And crickets, you know, it's going to be, you know, soldier fly larvae.
I mean, you can only use your imagination.
People are going to be eating all kinds of stuff just to not starve.
So, um, It's a good idea to store a little extra food, maybe more than a little, that's up to you.
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Talk about here on this channel and have just earlier today.
We always talk about the diplomatic, the political, and the military aspects of this war going on in the Middle East between the United States and Iran and about where it may go.
We look at all the details, the pros and cons, aircraft capabilities, missiles, and all that stuff.
And that's all really important.
But we also have been talking a little bit about the oil issue and how it's being blocked off the world market has caused all kinds of ripple effects on many things.
We talk about the fertilizer coming out, aluminum, helium, all kinds of things, diesel fuel going up.
And we talk about the impact that could have on people's lives.
But there's one aspect of this we haven't talked about, which I have been seeing in some published works lately by Mike Adams.
And I am absolutely thrilled to have him on the show today to talk about what I think is one of the most underreported but really grave potential problems that could come out of this war of choice that we made.
And that is with food.
And Mike, if you don't know him, many of you do.
I know because some of you have asked him to be on my show before.
Is also known as the Health Ranger, is a founder of All Brighton Platforms, Mass Spec Food Lab Director, and number one bestselling author of Food Forensics.
I love that title, by the way.
Mike, welcome to the show.
Glad to have you here.
Well, thank you for the invitation.
I'm a huge follower of your channel.
I really appreciate your level headed analysis of what's happening in the world.
Well, thank you very much.
And that's why we have you here to provide some expertise that I don't have on this.
And that's one of the things we're looking to get into today.
And let's just jump into the first one here.
Because you wrote here, if I can, sorry, I didn't pull it up in the right spot here.
You wrote this article that came out pretty recently called The Coming Famine Why Millions Will Starve in 2027 and Who's to Blame?
And then we obviously that picture kind of got my attention there as well.
But first of all, just even before we get into the details of what you're going to be talking about here, how serious is it?
Because Americans think, okay, that can happen in Africa.
I mean, those poor people down there, it's just awful.
But it certainly doesn't happen in America.
That's never going to happen in the Western world because I don't know, we're too modern or something.
That's just something that doesn't happen here.
Is that a safe bet?
Not any longer.
We're already in a very dire situation.
And that outcome that I mentioned in that headline is already baked in based on the lack of energy and fertilizer coming out of the Strait of Hormuz.
What week are we in now?
Like week nine or something like that of this conflict?
The thing is, it doesn't look like there's a solution in sight.
You know, you covered this extensively with you and your guests.
If this goes on much longer, that is, a few more months, then it becomes rather catastrophic.
On a global scale.
But I want to be clear the countries that will be most impacted by this are not the United States.
They are countries that already have tens of millions of people who are marginally on the edge of famine and starvation, even in a good year.
And those include countries like Sudan and even Yemen.
Egypt is not quite as severe, but it's close to that category.
India will have a lot of difficulty here for a number of reasons.
Will be on the edge of this.
And think about this.
Countries like Bangladesh, they have their own nitrogen production plants there.
But in order to produce nitrogen, they have to rely on imported natural gas.
And as you have covered extensively, Daniel, Qatar Energy, two of the 14 natural gas trains, they call them, which are really just production pipelines, two of the 14 are out of commission for three to five years.
And that has taken 17% of Qatar Energy's gas offline.
And it's the Haber Bosch chemical process that turns gas.
Into ammonia, which becomes urea and other nitrogenous fertilizers.
So, to answer your question, sorry to take so long, but the world is already right now going to face starvation of millions in 2027.
And that number could grow to tens of millions or even hundreds of millions if the Strait of Hormuz is not open soon.
And can I ask you just kind of from a global perspective, if you could just kind of explain how the global food system works such that All these different countries are so dependent on something that comes out of here as opposed to whatever they'll be able to make it in their own country here.
Is this one of those supply chain issues like we have with some electronics or something like that that's also similar in the food production world?
Yes, yes.
So let's say our current population globally is 8 billion people.
We'll just use that as an easy number.
About 4 billion or more of those people only are living today because of.
The Haber Bosch process that I just mentioned, which turns hydrocarbons into initially ammonia and then nitrogenous fertilizers.
So, if we lose that supply chain, which we haven't lost entirely, and I want to be clear that not all the world's natural gas comes out of the Strait of Hormuz, but it's a large number.
It's 25%, maybe even more, that comes out of the Strait.
So, that means that we're losing one quarter of the world's natural gas feedstock input for fertilizer production.
That's huge.
And when you also consider that the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines, remember under Biden, you covered that, affecting a company called Basif out of Germany, BASF, which also produced nitrogenous fertilizers from Russian gas.
That was cut off years ago.
On top of that, both China and Russia have now halted all exports of fertilizers, including to countries that desperately need that fertilizer input, such as India.
So when India asked China for emergency fertilizer, China said, Sorry, we need it for our own populations and our own farming.
So, the bottom line, Daniel, is that not only is the natural gas feedstock being cut off that normally would feed 4 billion out of the 8 billion on planet Earth, but also then countries are becoming more nationalized with the supplies that they have for their own protection.
That's leaving the more vulnerable countries like Bangladesh and Thailand and India really hanging in the wind.
And let's go ahead and jump into the article here because the very opening line here kind of has my attention.
Not only is the first category a madman catastrophe, But then you said, What I'm about to tell you is not a prediction.
It's a warning based on hard evidence.
Can you distinguish the difference between those two things?
Yes.
And really, that's a great segue from what we were just talking about is that our food today is largely artificial.
That is, I call it shadow food, actually.
You know, I've been a pretty vocal critic of a lot of the agricultural practices of our modern world.
And the truth is that our soils are largely depleted.
They have been for many generations.
And without the addition of these fertilizers, N, P, and K, going into the soils, crops just simply do not produce hardly at all.
And it's a nonlinear response.
What I mean by that is if you reduce fertilizer by 10% on a typical crop, let's say a high fertilizer hungry crop like corn, you get far more than a 10% reduction in the crop yield.
So a 10% drop can result in a 30% reduction.
On certain types of crops.
This is why American farmers are switching right now from corn to things like soy, which is a legume that doesn't need nearly as much fertilizer.
So, Daniel, we're all about to get extra soy lattes and soybeans and soy tofu instead of corn because of this fertilizer shortage.
There's going to be a shift that will affect even people's dietary habits as well.
But anyway, the bottom line is our food depends on a supply chain that comes out of the Persian Gulf.
And few people actually realize that until just recently.
So, continuing on down there about how it's a man made catastrophe, is the catastrophe that you're talking about, the man made part, just because of the war we started and all the consequences?
Or did we build a system that was too fragile?
Well, yeah, both, I would say.
Yeah.
Remember that population growth is strongly tied to low costs of food production and, of course, food abundance.
So, for a long time, the United States of America and other countries really wanted to encourage their populations to.
Eat as much as possible, have more children, grow the population.
This was where the original food guide pyramid came from, the USDA, decades ago.
It was all about really, hey, everybody, eat more food, which actually served America's purpose in the post World War II era because back then a lot of Americans were malnourished and there were a lot more stillbirths and things like that resulting from malnutrition.
Of course, we have the opposite problem today where we have Americans overeating but undernourished, meaning they're getting too many calories but not enough actual nutrition.
That's because the food has been transformed into what I mentioned earlier.
I call it shadow food, where, yeah, it looks like a head of lettuce, but it doesn't have the same nutrition as wild lettuce or what U.S. soils used to produce with the trace minerals like selenium and zinc and copper and things like that that would be in the food supply.
It's also mentioned food is the result of turning hydrocarbons into something you can eat.
Think about that.
So you can take gas, make fertilizer, fertilizer makes food, you can take oil.
Oil powers the tractors.
It powers the transport trucks that bring food to the grocery store.
Cheap energy results in cheap food.
Scarce energy results in scarce food.
And then it's just a question of which areas will be hit by the scarcity first and how severe will it be.
And it won't be as severe in the United States as it will be elsewhere around the world.
There's no question about that.
But the ability of U.S. consumers to handle economic pain is pretty shallow because so many American families are just living on the edge right now, paycheck to paycheck.
They don't have as much of a buffer of savings as cultures like, let's say, Japan.
You know, a savings intensive type of culture, they can make it through famines more easily or food scarcity more easily than can typical American consumers.
Yeah, I can certainly agree with that.
Let's move on down to the next category here the mechanism, how fertilizer becomes famine.
That was an interesting headline there.
What does this tell us?
Well, that just speaks to the lack of fertilizer.
That is, our 8 billion people only can be supported today because of the supply chain of cheap available gas.
Remember that the The gas trains in Qatar really began to be constructed in the 1990s.
And, you know, it wasn't that long ago that Earth's population was only 4 billion people.
I think the actual, I think that was in the 1970s that it was only half the current population.
But it was the construction of these gas trains in places like Qatar, but there's also gas that comes out of North America and other places in the world.
But Qatar energy really built it up more rapidly than anybody else.
Those, the condensers that are required to liquefy the gas there, those now have a multi year wait time for construction.
And you can't simply build that out very quickly.
Yes, on planet Earth, we built that.
That created a supply chain of cheap, abundant fertilizer.
Farmers were paying, you know, $400 a ton for fertilizer not that long ago.
Now, $900 a ton in many places, even in the United States.
What that means is, yeah, we've created a problem.
We've created a supply chain vulnerability that cannot be easily solved.
And we are not isolated from this in America, Daniel.
Even though we can produce a lot of our own oil and we can produce a lot of our own fertilizer, then there are other nations that are desperately bidding up those prices and buying from us and taking it away from the U.S. supply.
Think about even oil.
The strategic petroleum reserve is being drained while the U.S. is exporting oil to other countries at an artificially low subsidized price, essentially.
That's not going to serve our interests in the long run.
And do you have any sense for, I mean, I'm sure that there are other people in our government who know all of these details and probably have more data than either of us could put together combined.
Is there any plausible reason why we would be ignoring these kinds of things and not taking more proactive actions now, understanding what this is going to likely cause?
Well, I think it's because the urgency of the current crisis takes precedent over the urgency of a future crisis that hasn't yet arrived.
I think that's really all there is to it.
Our White House increasingly is in reaction mode, reacting to the current crisis.
And yeah, you can do some with releasing oil reserves, the IEA ordering 400 million barrels to be released over the next 120 days or so.
Yeah, sure, that will help, but that's a very limited answer and it can't be sustained.
And we have to think about the long term implications of this.
And I want to be clear, Daniel, that I don't foresee.
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Millions of Americans falling over dead from starvation.
What I see is tens of millions of Americans lining up at food banks and not being able to afford the groceries that they used to be able to purchase.
And I see that the food purchasing portion of their discretionary income will become so large that it will edge out some of the other important expenses, such as health insurance or paying rent or paying a mortgage or buying fuel, especially if gas prices continue to rise into the $6 or $7 a gallon range.
Then you have a double whammy.
Of high fuel prices and high food prices.
It's going to put a lot of American families into bankruptcy and potentially homelessness.
Yeah, we actually had Chris Martinson on last week who was arguing that we've all but baked in a recession.
And if we don't get the straight open up pretty quick, that could move into depression.
And on top of what you're talking about there, that is a pretty potent political matter, not even just the life and death issues with Americans.
So I mean, I think it could be quite severe, even if on paper it shouldn't cause starvation.
It could cause hardship.
But because of the dynamics here, like I said at the show, at the stop, start here, that doesn't happen in America.
We don't have those kinds of things.
We have price pain here and there.
But when you're talking something as serious as what you are implying could be coming here, that's, I think, something that most of us still alive today have never had that kind of, especially dual pressure.
Well, yes.
And this is on top of the economic pressures that we're already experiencing in the post COVID.
COVID era, because of all of the dollar creation that happened, massive amounts, trillions of dollars created, a lot of it stimulus money and so on, which flooded the dollar supply and resulted in the devaluation of the dollar, which we're feeling today in higher grocery prices even before the end of February war with Iran.
So, really, it's a triple threat if you think about it.
It's monetary inflation combined with increasing global food scarcity driving up Food prices combined with higher fuel prices, which also then has a double whammy because transportation of food is one of the major costs of food.
In addition to people buying their own gasoline, they have to pay for the transport of food.
And this is why airlines, we saw one just go bankrupt in the last couple of days.
We've seen airlines cutting tens of thousands of flights from their plans over the next few months.
And countries like Australia, in particular, that are very, very large.
Country with a lot of road miles, a lot of transportation of basic supplies and food in Australia, they're going to see percentage wise even higher price increases than what we would see in the United States.
You know, Canada will be impacted, New Zealand will be impacted.
Yeah, in fact, let me just go to the next section there.
The countries that will be hardest hit.
So maybe that's where you're already headed right here.
Yeah, well, if you scroll down a little bit on that article, there's an infographic that shows, I believe it shows Sudan and DR Congo and so on, sort of at the bottom of, yeah, there it is.
Scroll down a little bit more on that infographic and you'll see.
Yeah, see that list Ethiopia, there you go, Bangladesh, Somalia, Yemen.
Those five countries are the most at risk.
And it's interesting, well, it's kind of sad that for every million barrels of oil that is not on the global market each day, or you could say every billion cubic meters of natural gas that's not flowing, there is an incremental amount.
Of people that will starve as a result.
But that starvation won't really be fully felt until 2027.
And that's because of the growing seasons.
If you look at that country list right there, many of those countries, and there are more.
I mentioned before, I mentioned Egypt and India and so on.
Some of those have growing seasons that start in the summer with the harvest in the fall, and thus the scarcity won't really kick in until early 2027.
And even in the United States, a lot of the spring planting that happened, the majority of farmers had their fertilizer for the spring planting that's underway or already took place.
But it's the fall planting season in the United States where there will be.
Much higher prices of fertilizer.
That will affect the winter harvest, so to speak, which affects the U.S. food supply in 2027.
And so, I guess this is kind of a graphic depicting what you were talking about there.
What's the difference between 100% yield and a 25% yield?
How could it drop that far?
Well, again, because the soils have been utterly depleted of nutrition over generations of farming.
And without the artificial inputs of nitrogen, NPK, the typical three, then crops just don't.
Yield very much anymore.
And so, like I said, it's a non linear response where you lose a certain amount of fertilizer, you lose a much larger amount of crop.
And some farmers will choose to simply not plant at all because, you know, there's a fixed cost to run a tractor over an acre of soybeans, let's say.
That cost doesn't get lower just because you save money on less fertilizer.
So some farms will just lie in fallow because of this.
And those, even though America is very food abundant normally itself, You're going to have so many external pressures from other countries trying to buy that food at any price that the prices will go high for U.S. consumers.
And that will be felt in the grocery store.
Well, like we're doing right now with the petroleum that you were talking about, because we're drawing down from the SPR and several other things right now to keep the price low.
But again, I mean, I guess I just got to ask it's surely, I mean, I get it.
The crisis in front of you today is important, but there's got to be people that say, Okay, but we're building the crisis tomorrow, which could dwarf this one because the one in the Middle East right now is one we chose to get into and we could choose to get out of.
And then we can limit the damage that's built up that's already baked in, as you point out, but we don't have to get any more.
That can be a choice we can make.
Once we get into some of these territories here, correct me if I'm wrong, but your flexibility of taking decisions later on, like at the end of the summer, into the fall, your options go down, do they not?
Well, absolutely.
And you make a really important point there.
And it's also exacerbated by the infrastructure damage that's happened in the Middle East.
So I already mentioned Qatar Energy, a three to five year repair time on two of their gas trains.
So that's not coming back in 2027.
But also think about the damage to the oil wells as those wells are halted, the flows are halted in some cases.
And Dr. Chris Martinson has spoken about this with a lot of expertise.
And I know him, I follow his work as well.
But those oil wells, they don't just come back at 100%.
In many cases, depending on the duration of the closure, especially the low pressure flowing wells in places like Iran and some of them, the more mature wells in Saudi Arabia, they may only come back at 80% of throughput, or in some cases, 70%.
Or if you're lucky, maybe it's 95%, but you don't know until you try.
So even if this war were to end tomorrow, if Trump said, we're done, we're out of there, we're just going to sail our ships out and Iran can.
You know, charge its tolls and let everybody start sailing through the strait.
Even if that happened tomorrow, it's going to be years before we get the throughput of gas and oil and helium and other, you know, sulfur, for example, that we had earlier this year.
It's going to be years.
And there's nothing you can do to change that.
None of us can change that.
That's baked in.
So let's go back to the last section of this piece here.
Conclusion, hope, preparedness, and the truth.
What can people do?
Well, number one, I always, I'm a big champion of self reliance and living off grid as much as you can to augment the things that you buy with perhaps things that you can grow.
There's a lot of people buying garden seeds right now and planting some crops.
People are learning about sprouting, which can augment your diet.
Even in your own kitchen, if you don't have a yard, some people are buying extra storable food just to prepare for this.
I've also encouraged people for years to store 500 gallons of diesel in a proper diesel tank.
And I do the same.
You know, I'm using diesel on my ranch right now.
I paid $2.50 for it, and it's going to last a long time.
But I've encouraged people to do this.
I understand you can't just put a 500 gallon tank in the middle of a neighborhood.
But if you're in an area where you can do this, it's a smart move.
Because the reliability of the supply, you know, I mean, we saw this coming.
A lot of us saw this.
The volatility of the supply chain and the strong dependence on these supplies is a critical vulnerability for our infrastructure.
And you know what else, Daniel?
Think about the fact that, you know, we're trying to see so many companies build data centers in the United States, which require enormous amounts of power from the power grid at the same time that the power grid is strained by this.
Lack of energy resulting from this war.
So, you know, data centers are being built in places like Texas, which has its own power grid.
But the power grid almost went down a few years ago because of a freak winter storm.
The Eastern power grid is already completely maxed out.
And data centers that are being built today have to purchase gas turbines and put the gas turbines on site and have the gas piped in to create their own electricity because they can't depend on the grid power.
Oil Gluts and Grid Failures00:13:31
Well, if the gas isn't available or Is a lot more expensive, that's going to affect obviously their ability to produce electricity.
And one more thing, which is that the gas turbines themselves now have up to a 10 year wait time for the larger models because these tech companies went in and bought up all the gas turbines, even the smaller models like the 300 megawatt models and so on.
They bought them all up.
Now they're gone.
Okay.
Well, that's less in hope filled, but it's the truth.
And that's what we need to have.
And let me just say, We talked about a lot of the oil kind of in an ancillary way, but you've got another piece out right now.
I also want to talk about before we let you go, and that is the oil emergency of 2627 why the oil glut narrative was a lie and what comes next.
First of all, what was the oil glut narrative?
Well, the IEA, which is out of Paris and it was formed after the 73 74 oil emergency, the IEA reports, usually reports that there's this great access of Even up to a billion barrels of oil on the water that they say is on these ships sailing around that haven't yet made it to their destination.
Sometimes that number is 800 million barrels, et cetera.
But in my opinion, after looking at this, it appears to me that the IEA has become somewhat politicized and has been vastly over reporting this buffer of oil in order to artificially lower oil prices or to cause oil speculators to think there's a lot more oil out there.
And as a result, there isn't really.
An extra billion barrels of oil floating around, especially now with the Strait of Hormuz situation.
So, what was reported late last year as an oil glut has very quickly become oil scarcity.
And I'm sure you've covered this with Dr. Martinson and others, but even the United States imports millions of barrels per day of the kind of oil that it needs for U.S. refineries, which are built for the more heavier sludge type of oil.
So the U.S. both imports and exports oil.
It exports the lighter oil to other countries, it imports the more sludgy oil for processing domestically.
But on a global basis, all of that oil is taking a hit to the tune of about.
20% or so, based on how much the Persian Gulf supplied the world's oil.
Now, this is where you get into just straight up economics here.
You know, the GDP of every country is closely tied to its energy consumption.
If you want a higher GDP, you have to have more energy available for your economy to consume through industry and transportation, manufacturing, et cetera.
If you start to take a 20% hit in your energy, then your economy begins to take roughly about a 10% hit.
If the duration continues for that.
Now, there are older, more neoclassical economic theories that claim that number is only 1%, but those don't make sense in the modern economy.
Enemy is the key commodity that drives everything else in your economy.
If you don't have energy, you can't do anything in your economy.
So, in modern economic theory, and among analysts who know what they're talking about, a 20% hit in the world's oil results in about a 10% hit in the world's GDP.
That's a depression, and that's what's coming if we don't stop this.
Yeah, that is a huge year.
And you say the oil emergency is real, but it's worse than you think.
What is worse than we think?
That's because of the long term damage to the infrastructure.
Because a lot of people assume that you can just turn the oil wells back on.
You know, they think, oh, well, maybe, maybe Trump and Iran will come to an agreement, you know, Friday.
Unlikely, but they, you know, they hold out optimism for that.
And then we can just turn everything back on next week and everything will get back to normal.
Well, first of all, there is a multi month air gap in the system right now.
Because there are far fewer ships sailing with oil or gas because the tankers just flat out aren't sailing like they used to.
Secondly, that long term damage to the infrastructure.
It's not just the oil wells themselves that can become clogged with things like paraffins or water mixture inside the fissures, where you normally have like a low pressure oil well.
You're injecting gas around the edge of it to try to push that oil slowly into the well where you can extract it.
Those fissures get clogged up if they.
They just sit for a few days or a few weeks.
But it's also the fact that oil infrastructure has been bombed.
And that bombing has happened even in Russia.
You've seen this where Ukrainian drones have hit oil storage and oil refineries in Russia.
So, whether this is intentional or not, globally, the oil infrastructure that has kept our world humming, that has kept our GDP going, that infrastructure is being destroyed or eroded or blocked.
And the result to the world is clearly going to be.
I mean, I think I can confidently say at this point, it's going to be an economic depression, more than just a 5% or 6% reduction.
It's going to be more like 10%.
To make sure I understand it, even if the war ends tomorrow morning, you're saying that's the case.
Well, if the war ends tomorrow morning, then this, you know, we can heal from this.
We can get through this.
Life is going to be tough for a lot of countries and a lot of people for the remainder of this year and part of next year, no matter what.
But we can avoid.
The worst case if the war ends now.
And, you know, we can look back on this as a bump in the road, but not if it continues.
Then it's going to get very, very bad, and a lot of human suffering will result.
Now, one other thing in that article, the new one here that really jumps out at me, is you said oil prices are being artificially suppressed, and that's making everything worse.
Now, most people might think about that.
In fact, if you look at the current price of oil right now, that in fact, President Trump made some comments that made the oil price drop.
As a matter of fact, this is a live look right here.
This is for June 102, and you see it dropped.
$3.85, now $3.87 today because of some things that President Trump said.
And this implication that, well, maybe we're not going to get back into a hot war.
But you're saying that that may not be indicative of what the real price of oil is or what it may do to us and that that's not good.
Can you explain how that works?
Absolutely.
Well, Trump is very practiced at helping the oil prices go lower by things that he says or posts on social media.
But given that we're facing scarcity in oil, The most important signal for consumers to start conserving is a higher price.
So, this is just straight up classical economics.
A higher price signals to companies and transportation and consumers to use less of that commodity.
But since the price is artificially low, and part of that is accomplished by releasing from the SPR as well, the price is artificially low, so people think, oh, I can just continue to use it the way I used to.
And the problem is that the SPR will run out.
And also, again, The oil that we have been living on and burning over the last two and a half months, that excess is running out.
And it's looking like by the time we get into June, I think, mid to late June, this is going to become a really critical problem, even for Americans.
And it's not just the oil, it's also things like lubricants, because these petroleum products, various distillates and so on that come out of the Persian Gulf, even polyethylene, for example, goes into all kinds of fibers and construction materials.
Even helium.
I run a food lab and we use helium in our lab.
Fortunately, I stocked up on a massive amount of helium about March 10th.
And I got a year's supply of helium in my lab, but not everybody saw that coming.
But if you don't have lubricants, then you can't roll trucks down the highway.
If you don't have lubricants or just engine oil or even grease and things like that for construction equipment, tractors, skid steers, and track loaders, You can't build.
You can't build data centers.
You can't build homes.
You can't transport anything.
So, this is a very complex, intertwined ecosystem of petrochemical products that is beginning to partially vanish from our world.
And I'm going to go back to the article here.
You've already talked about this, I guess, the previous section here the wells that may never come back.
You've talked about that.
But now, then, the critical thing what you must do now to prepare for the coming storm.
So, when you're talking about global energy and stuff, what can a regular person do?
Well, yeah, and I apologize.
There is one more point I wanted to make on all of this about the fact that did you know that typical oil wells will drop about 4% or 5% per year in their output just normally, especially if they don't have good maintenance?
And the maintenance of oil wells and especially of fracking wells requires a lot of liquidity in capital.
This is something that was mentioned recently by Rick Rule, a commodities expert.
And this lack of liquidity, which is also reflected in the fact that treasuries are moving up, so the cost of borrowing money is going higher.
I think the UK, the 30 year rate just went over 6%, in fact.
The cost of borrowing money impacts the lack of liquidity available for the energy industry to invest in the maintenance of the existing wells, not to mention exploration of new wells.
And fracking wells, they diminish very quickly, much more quickly than the liquid oil wells.
So if we stop doing the level of maintenance that's required, that's another piece of long term damage that stems from the higher cost of capital, which stems from.
You know, interest rates going higher effectively, or borrowing rates going higher.
This is one of the reasons why Trump really wants somebody at the Fed that will just slam interest rates down, even if it just kicks the can down the road to a bigger problem later on, because this lack of liquidity also affects energy, which affects food and everything else.
So I hope you don't mind me interjecting that.
Oh, no, no, of course.
No, no, absolutely.
Definitely anything that's relevant wants you to talk about.
Yeah.
So I think the next question you were asking them was about what can people do?
Yeah.
Well, okay, here's an angle on this that's kind of interesting.
Trump has become the number one EV salesman in America because people are rushing out to buy EVs.
In fact, Hyundai, which sells EVs in America, has experienced, I think, a 500% increase in the sales volume of their EVs.
And Tesla sales are strong again as well.
That's because the perception among consumers is that they can just use the power grid to charge their vehicles.
They can do transportation based on kilowatt hours instead of having to go get diesel or gasoline.
Some people are buying solar.
And setting up a local battery storage, which is very expensive and very complex.
But some people are doing it so they can charge their vehicles with their own sunlight.
That bypasses the Strait of Hormuz.
You know, you want to bypass the Strait of Hormuz, just get sunlight and feed it into your car, right?
Again, it's very expensive to set that up.
So that's not something that typical Americans tap into.
But there's also, I just saw a pilot project from the Bob.
And I'm sorry, just to go on to you.
How expensive for a normal person, how expensive would it be to set up a deal like that with sunlight?
Given today's battery tech, the batteries are the most expensive part of this.
You could easily spend $40,000 to do, or more, for the panels, which are getting cheaper.
But it's the batteries and the inverter charge controllers that go on top of the battery.
The battery tech is still not great, and that's where the expense comes in.
Got it.
But for someone who wants to buy their way into energy independence, because of Trump's attacking Iran, he has forced a lot of people to look at.
Sunlight, because the sun is one thing that no government can block, you know, not yet anyway.
And Iran can't block the straight of sunlight, you know, coming out of the sky.
So that's important to keep in mind.
You know, who would have thought that Trump would be an EV salesman?
But it's true.
At the same time, some people are storing diesel.
And I actually think that's still a great idea right now, even though diesel is much higher than what it used to be.
And by the way, let me mention on your show, in terms of safety, I don't encourage people to store gasoline.
Because it's just so dangerous and it's so flammable.
Diesel is a completely different beast.
Diesel engines, they don't even have spark plugs because it's hardly flammable.
It's only ignited under pressure, extreme pressure.
That's the only way it even burns.
It's hard to burn, so it's much safer to store.
But you still need UL listed double walled storage tanks with spring loaded ventilation and so on to account for expansion during the heat, things like that.
So I just want to be clear a safety note for your audience.
Blockades Leading to Mass Death00:07:32
Got it.
But store diesel because it's probably going much, much higher from here forward.
And like I said, I'm using diesel.
I paid $2.50 a gallon last year sometime.
And I'll be using that for a long time to come at these current rates.
But those are some of the things that people can do.
And kind of like during the COVID years, a lot of people are increasingly working from home or finding ways to get a job that allows them to work from home and just zooming into their job.
A lot of that's going on.
Yeah, unfortunately, that's limited to what you can do, although I think a lot of that's going to come back out of necessity.
So, listen, all this stuff that we've talked about so far on both of your articles here, both with the petroleum.
And with the food issues, it's all if the war ended tomorrow, all these problems are baked in, and here's what we're going to have.
Now, then, let me ask you about two separate scenarios.
One is President Trump just can't make a decision, doesn't make a decision, but keeps the blockade on there, and we go into, say, July through the next month.
And then we get the magic thing it's over, whatever.
What is the difference between over tomorrow and over at the end of July?
The difference is probably tens of millions of deaths in other countries around the world in 2027.
You know, at some point, you're going to be able to assign each day of delay will result in a certain number of people dying from famine.
That's sadly, that's just cause and effect.
Yes, yes.
And you're going to see a lot of food aid, you know, like food aid concerts and fundraisers and emergencies among the international organizations that help provide food aid.
You're going to see that all throughout 2027 right now.
I mean, again, there's no way to stop that.
And the real problem is, I mean, that people can have as big a heart as they want, but if the food isn't there to distribute or if the crops aren't coming up with the proper amount of food, there's not much you can eat unless you want to just balance off the countries that still have more than they did, which would be necessary, but also not very likely, I would think.
There's also going to be a strong shift towards lesser nourishing foods all over the world.
So you'll have substitutions in diets.
To move from traditional foods that maybe had better nutrition into more, let's say, food aid capable foods that have a longer shelf life that are more malnourished.
For example, if you have white bread or white flour crackers, they have a much longer shelf life, but all the vitamin E has been taken out.
All the minerals have been stripped out.
The healthy oils from the wheat, berry, grain have been stripped out because those oils can go rancid on the shelf.
So you're going to end up with more processed.
Junk food being shipped out to these countries, and then those people, even if they're able to survive on this processed junk food, then they're going to start to have all the you know the North American issues, they're going to have diabetes and heart disease and dental problems, malnourished.
That's going to become another side effect of all of this.
And Daniel, it look, I know you've covered this extensively, but in my assessment, I don't think the United States of America can ever control the Strait of Hormuz, it's just geography.
So, the longer we stay there and try to assert control, the longer.
I mean, the more people will suffer and die in 2027.
And if you do the math on this, and I don't mean to, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here, but this situation, if Trump continues to pursue this, this will result in more people dying than the Holocaust.
And that's not an exaggeration at all.
Now, that's with basically option B if we keep the blockade in and it goes through into the summer.
Right.
Now, option C if President Trump, and there is growing evidence even just in the last 12 hours that I've had from sources at various locations, that they could be trending towards a resumption of the active conflict and strike all these energy systems in Iran, which will immediately respond.
I'm sure they'll do what they have threatened to do and that they'll hit all these facilities here.
And then it won't just be two out of whatever I think you said 14 gas lines in Qatar, but it could be devastating the whole thing.
What, in your estimate, is if that turns out we go back active, we hit Iran's energy, Iran hits the GCC energy, what happens then?
Well, I don't like to use the term Mad Max, but in that scenario that you just described with the near complete destruction of the energy infrastructure and Iran retaliating against the Gulf nations, then billions die, billions die over time.
And then we have mass social unrest, we have social upheaval, we have revolutions, we have war, chaos.
And I'm not just talking about The United States for all those things.
I'm saying all over the world.
Yeah.
And help us understand here because when I think, I'm like, okay, I'm looking at global oil and I'm thinking, okay, 20% comes through the Strait of Hormuz.
And so, okay, well, if we lost all that, we still got 80% out here.
So maybe we'll have to tighten our belts a little bit, but it won't be that bad.
But you're saying it would be worse than that.
How, just to help us understand the math, how can 20% equal global famine?
Because it's the cost, the energy has been abundant this whole time.
Food has been cheap because energy was cheap.
Energy was cheap because the ships were sailing 120 a day through the strait.
So many countries, and I'm saying billions of people in this world, including nearly a billion in India, live on the edge of poverty right now.
They are marginally just barely able to afford to eat now.
So even if you can grow the food, you can't grow the food at scale with the economics that can be afforded by billions of people who are living on this planet.
That's the issue.
Does that make sense?
Unfortunately, it does.
I wish it didn't.
And in the event that combat operations return and they start hitting these things, what can other countries around the world do?
Is there any way to mitigate it once that starts happening?
Well, let me answer it this way.
You know, Trump announced over the weekend Project Freedom as a humanitarian mission to free these ships out of the Persian Gulf.
In my opinion, if Trump wanted to do the most humanitarian thing possible, he should leave, leave the Persian Gulf and let Iran charge its tolls, let the ships flow, because that will save hundreds of millions of lives in the long run.
The humanitarian thing to do, in my opinion, again, is for the United States to stop this war, negotiate some deal of peace, an end of this war, and learn to get along.
With the other nations of the world, whether it's Russia or China or Iran or whoever, because we are very fragile in our global system right now food and energy, all the things that we've talked about.
It's very fragile.
We are one hair trigger away from the destruction of the infrastructure that keeps at least 4 billion people alive through the economics and the energy and the hydrocarbons that we just talked about.
But there are other things here.
A Fragile Global System00:02:30
There are certain, like sulfuric acid, for example, it's the number one most important chemical.
In industry around the world, and we're not getting the sulfuric acid that we used to get.
And did you know that without sulfuric acid, you can't really pull rare earths out of mine tailings?
You need the acid in order to acidify and put rare earths into solution so you can extract them later on.
The sulfuric acid comes as a side effect out of all of the energy mining or extraction out of the Middle East.
So there are other critical factors here that are chilling game changers.
If we don't restore the flow of helium and sulfuric acid and hydrocarbons and polyethylene, you start to get a domino effect that.
Destroys the supply chains that make modern life possible.
And we will all suffer as a result.
Well, that's not one of the more happy endings I've had on a show here before.
But listen, I cannot thank you enough for coming on and laying this out for us because we need to understand.
And man, if ever there was a time for people to call their congressman or, I don't know, send a letter to the White House, who knows, who cares what, something to your representatives.
And say this thing needs to come to an end.
This is not just about chest thumping about who's important here and who's controlling the straight of hormones.
Let's get this stuff off the table while we still can, because once this thing goes back hot again, we may not be able to recover in our lifetimes.
And I'd like to avoid that.
Well, Daniel, I'm honored to be on your show.
And I apologize if I sounded too scary.
I've actually been holding back, honestly.
But the truth is that, again, this is my opinion.
I'd like to leave you with this.
You know, Trump says that we're justifying the war with Iran because Iran might have nuclear weapons and that's a threat to the world.
I would say that the U.S. military's current war with Iran is economically nuking the world with far more casualties than what Hiroshima produced or Nagasaki.
Far more casualties will come in 2027.
We are nuking the world right now economically and we've got to stop.
That's my opinion.
I understand, but that's the way I see it.
I'm in agreement with you.
I mean, even without knowing all the things you said here, just what we can see.
That is likely coming, especially because all of this was a self inflicted wound.
None of it needed to happen.
Vitamin D3 in Nuclear Times00:03:57
That's right.
And yet, here we are.
But I really appreciate you coming on, Mike.
Thank you so much.
And we look forward to having you back on again one day.
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