Mike Adams and digital avatar Avatod dissect alleged global energy sabotage, claiming refineries are being targeted to engineer famine while AI surveillance threatens privacy. They interview Jesse Limeburger about Open Home's decentralized smart speakers that process data locally to resist cloud monitoring. The hosts warn of impending oil crises, advocate for Universal Numismatic Accounts, and promote therapeutic peptides as alternatives to FDA-controlled medicine, concluding that self-reliance in food, currency, and health is essential against looming infrastructure collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
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Global Grid Collapse Concerns00:15:16
Do you remember during COVID how they ran around the country shutting down food processing facilities by faking a bunch of PCR tests?
Remember that?
In fact, the person I know who I've interviewed, Doc Pete Chambers, he was working for the state of Texas.
He was part of the team that was tasked with going from one place to another.
And he was with a team that would run the PCR tests and then they would shut down the plant.
And he saw that.
He saw that happening.
And that's when he got red-pilled, by the way, when he started to see, oh, my God, they're faking the test and shutting down the food infrastructure in order to cause food scarcity.
It was an engineered famine, really kind of a pilot test case during COVID.
So everything about COVID was just a, it was a pilot run for what's happening now.
And that's what this podcast is all about.
Because what's happening right now is the deliberate engineered shutdown of the world's energy infrastructure.
Through the cover of war in the Middle East, but combined with sabotage teams running around the world blowing up refineries and fertilizer plants.
That's happening in spades.
And now plants are burning up or exploding in Myanmar, one in India, last week, Australia, Mexico.
Things are blowing up on a daily basis now.
If you watch on social media, you'll find that this is highly unusual.
Oh, Russia is losing oil facilities from drone attacks from the West.
I already mentioned Myanmar.
Lots of refineries are catching fire or exploding.
This is clearly a pattern.
It's not random.
So, globalist sabotage teams.
And you may remember one to two years ago, when actually it was more than that, it was maybe in the aftermath of COVID, they were running around burning down the food processing facilities.
You recall that?
Remember how we had that string of fires?
There were like 100 food facilities burned down all across the country.
Like what's going on?
And then I talked to my friend Michael Jahn, who's a former Special Forces operator and also a war journalist, you could say, right?
And he said on camera in several interviews, he said that part of their training was to learn how to burn things down because they would go into a country and it would be easier to burn things down than to blow things up.
Starting a fire and burning down a whole facility, also, it just it leaves behind almost no trace of what caused it.
Whereas if you blow something up, people are going to notice, hey, there was a giant explosion.
There was a big kaboom and debris was blown everywhere.
It's like, yep, that was a bomb.
But if, as part of a special forces operation, if you go into enemy territory and you just start setting fire to everything, many of them will think, well, gosh, it was just an accident.
Somehow, sparks or whatever, there was an electrical fault and stuff just burned down.
It covers your tracks.
And that's what's happening right now with the refineries.
Somebody probably special forces, maybe even on a global scale that there might be special teams that are not just Americans, it could be Europeans, it could be whoever the globalist could get right and they dispatch them to all these different countries and say, look, your job is to burn down the refineries.
All you got to do is start a fire, let it spread, and it turns out that's actually not that difficult for properly trained military sabotage teams to carry out.
They know how to burn stuff down because they've practiced it.
You know, they're good at destroying things.
And I believe that's what's happening right now.
So again, the war is taking hydrocarbons offline at an alarming ratio.
We've already lost right now about 20% of the world's oil supply.
And as I covered in a report yesterday, Iran is threatening to increase that to about 32% by shutting off access to the Red Sea and destroying another pipeline from Saudi Arabia.
That would be nearly one-third of the global oil supply offline.
But that's apparently not enough because that would only kill maybe a billion people with extreme starvation, maybe not even a billion.
We calculated it to be maybe 800 million people would be thrust into extreme poverty facing famine.
So how do they kill billions?
Well, they have to shut down even more of the energy infrastructure.
So, on top of the war, then they do the sabotage.
And if that's not enough, they have other cards to play.
They can do a radiological dirty bomb attack.
They can do an EMP attack.
They can simulate a solar flare or simulate an alien invasion and use it to take everything down.
They can simulate or they can do a cyber attack on the power grid and take it down themselves and blame somebody else.
There are a number of cards they can play, but it's clear that the plan is to take down the world's energy infrastructure because that feeds.
Everything downstream.
Energy results in fertilizer.
Energy is necessary to farm.
Energy is necessary for transportation.
Energy is necessary for manufacturing, etc., etc.
Energy is necessary for AI, too, by the way.
Boy, the AI data centers are going to be very unhappy about that.
That's why they're building their own nuclear power plants, by the way.
They're going to have their own energy that's not on the grid.
That's their plan.
They're running gas turbines right now at many data centers, it's completely off the grid.
They're not using the power grid in many of these centers.
They're just using gas or nuclear, what have you, or planning on using nuclear.
So, as the energy supply craters globally, you're going to go through stages of collapse.
And the first stage is what we're in right now, which is where the early signs are already evident.
It's like looking into the distance and you can see there's an avalanche on a distant mountain.
You're like, wow, isn't that pretty?
Look, the snow's coming down.
It's flowing down the field.
Isn't that great?
Look at that.
It's so pretty.
It's all fluffy.
And in stage one, most people think everything's fine.
A few people see the signs coming and they start to get concerned and they start prepping.
Maybe we better get some backup diesel.
Maybe we should grow a little bit more of our own food.
Maybe we should have backup food supplies.
Yeah, but that's the minority.
Then in the next stage, which we're about to transition into, you start to have signs of concern in a more mainstream audience.
People start to freak out over some items not being available at the grocery store, items that they're used to buying, or grocery store prices going up much faster than they ever thought could happen, or gas and diesel prices going up much more quickly than they ever imagined.
That's coming within a matter of just probably two to four weeks in North America.
A lot more mainstream concern as things start to get much more expensive and a few noticeable shortages begin to emerge.
But it's not the end of the world yet, right?
It's not Mad Max.
You can still get food, you can still get gas.
It just costs more.
So this is the concern stage.
And people still hold out hope that, hey, maybe Trump told the truth today and the war really is over.
Iran capitulated and they surrendered to everything because he claims that about once a week.
It's never true, but people believe it every week.
See, we won!
And then 24 hours later, you can't find that person anymore because they're too humiliated to speak again because they believe Trump again like a fool.
So the next stage after that, after concern, is panic.
People start to realize holy cow this is not gonna get resolved quickly and we are going to face some severe supply chain shortages Might not be able to find the food that we want to eat and might not be able to afford it because the prices are going up so quickly and we might not be able to get fuel which means we're gonna be you know locked down.
We're gonna be stuck and that's part of the energy lockdown folks is Yeah, you have a car you just can't afford to drive it anywhere And there might be fuel rationing on top of that in the later stages, by the way, which means you only have a couple of gallons a week or whatever.
So the panic stage has not yet set in in North America, but it's going to.
That is, unless somehow this whole war gets resolved and all the sabotage stops.
But I doubt it because this looks like a deliberate plan.
This is an engineered step-by-step plan for a global takedown of energy infrastructure and the food supply in order to thrust billions of people into poverty and famine.
Clearly, what is happening.
So, I don't think they're going to stop this.
Even if there's peace with Iran, then the powers that be will find another reason to close the Strait of Hormuz or destroy the South Pars gas field.
Maybe they'll have a nuke go off in Qatar and destroy all 14 gas trains that are there, right?
And then the world is absolutely screwed at that point.
Just absolutely screwed.
But whatever it takes, they will find a reason.
A justification to shut off the supply because this is the pinch.
I'm calling it the pinch.
This is the pinch.
They're pinching off the supply of food and energy that keeps humanity alive.
And as a result, people will begin to die.
And when I say the pinch, it's because it's not a total extermination.
They're not going to kill 8 billion people.
That's probably difficult, maybe impossible.
But they can kill 2 billion.
3 billion, 4 billion, 5 billion, even 6, maybe even 7 if they add on layers of warfare and banking collapse and things like that.
They might be able to get it to 7 billion people.
But more likely, they'll only get to 2 to 4 billion people, which is still a lot of people, don't get me wrong.
But that's less than half of the human population.
But for the globalists, they would consider that to be a success.
If they could get rid of half, then they've cut the population down to size.
Mowed the lawn, as you know, Israel likes to say, they've mowed the lawn on planet Earth, cut the population down, and then the governments will be solvent much longer without having to pay all the benefits, social security, and welfare and Medicare and things like that.
You see?
There's even a financial incentive on the part of governments to exterminate as many people as possible, especially those who are costing them money.
Now, add to this one more factor that you may not have considered, and that is the rise of robots and AI.
And now you have Elon Musk talking about the universal high income, which is just a variation of universal basic income, or UBI, where the government prints the money and hands it out to everybody and says, oh, even though you don't work anymore because.
We don't need your work because you've been replaced by robots.
We still need you to consume stuff.
So here, just have free money every month, and your job is to just buy stuff to keep the economy going, right?
And some people just gullibly believe that that would be the answer.
Like, yeah, the government just wants to keep us all around and keep us all on the government's payroll.
Even though we contribute nothing to government money and power, they're not taking tax money from us because we're not working.
We are nothing but an expense line on the government's balance sheet.
But yeah, the government wants to keep us around just because they're nice people there in Washington, D.C. They're just such nice people.
Some people tell themselves this fairy tale, but you and I know that once there is a UBI or a UHI, the government will work in every way possible to exterminate the largest number of people possible because that's their financial incentive.
The United States government can't print $12 trillion a year to hand $10,000 a month to 100 million people.
Because that's what it would cost, $12 trillion a year.
That's not going to work.
The currency would collapse.
So if they managed to cut the population of recipients by 50 million people, then they could cut that to like $6 trillion a year, which is still insane.
But maybe they'll cut some more.
Maybe they'll cut 75% or 75 million Americans dead.
From whatever, and then they could cut that to like $3 trillion a year of the UBI.
At that point, they could print that and probably get away with it, you see.
So it creates a perverse incentive.
The whole UBI concept creates an incentive for governments to figure out how to get rid of you as quickly as possible.
And they certainly won't be pushing longevity solutions.
That's for sure.
And when AI, let's say, discovers anti-aging magic cures, which a lot of AI people believe that's going to happen.
Yeah, I'm not so sure about that.
But they believe that that would be the worst nightmare for a government that's handing out UBI money.
They don't want you to live forever, for God's sake.
They need you to die and get off the payroll.
So you think they would allow longevity cures to ever surface in the ecosystem?
No, that would be censored like nothing else.
They would ban it.
They would outlaw it.
If there were a live forever molecule, like a magic peptide, and you take a pill a day and you live forever, you stop aging.
If that existed, that would be the most outlawed thing in the world, except all of the elite would be taking it themselves so they could live forever.
And it might replace all the adrenochrome supply that they're currently living on.
They wouldn't have to source as much of that, which, since Jeffrey Epstein's island is out of business, has become more difficult for them.
So if they had a longevity peptide, they would love that, but they sure wouldn't let you have access to it.
Elite Immortality and Adrenochrome00:06:06
They want you and all the masses to die as quickly as possible, especially if you're on a UBI.
And that's why I've said the UBI is actually going to be a DOA, dead on arrival.
That's how they want you.
DOA, not UBI.
They don't want to have to hand out stuff to you all the time.
They want you to die and leave and go away, vanish, so they can have more for themselves, obviously.
I mean, if you think the government cares about you, then you're delusional.
If you think Big Pharma cares about you, you're delusional.
If you think the FDA cares about you, you're delusional.
Only you have your own.
Self interest at heart, and everybody else in the centralized system of governments and industry and medicine, all of them are working against you at every turn.
They want you to die as soon as possible.
And while you're not quite dead, but in the process of dying, they want to extract all the money you ever earned through health insurance costs, experimental drugs, and doctor's visits, and whatever else, so that you die quickly but also penniless.
Them, having extracted everything out of you right before you die.
The way they mine aluminum out of rock, they want to mine your wealth out of your dead, limp body before you expire.
That's the goal of big pharma and industry and the government, and and, of course, the government's goals for you to just die as quickly as possible after you stop working.
So up until the day that you retire, they love you.
Like, keep sending us money.
Your voluntary taxation yeah, keep sending it, we will extract from your work.
And then the day you stop working, they're like, hurry up and die Because we don't need you on the payroll here.
We don't want to have to keep giving you money.
So think about that as AI and robotics rise up and replace human jobs, but also the possibility of more longevity research, especially using AI to discover some pretty amazing, maybe new peptides and new things that do have longevity benefits.
Man, they will ban that as quickly as they can.
And you will only find out about that.
Those things through people like me who are outside the system.
Brightvideos.com, naturalnews.com.
I mean, I'm talking about therapeutic peptides right now, but there isn't a magic live forever pill that exists.
There are peptides that can help you in many ways and improve the quality of your life, but they're not going to make you, you know, an eternal being because that might be a bad idea.
Anyway, do you really want to stick around here forever with all these nut jobs running the world?
No.
That seems like a prescription for hell, actually.
So get your business done and move on.
But the government wants to get rid of you as quickly as possible, obviously, after you stop working.
All right.
So there you go.
That's why the energy infrastructure, just to summarize, that's why energy infrastructure is being deliberately destroyed.
That's why things are blowing up all over the world.
That's why this war is actually a cover story.
That's why the U.S. is blocking the Strait of Hormuz.
Well, I guess blocking the traffic from it, even though the blockade is out in the Arabian Sea, but it's traffic from the Strait.
That's why all this is happening.
The order came down from the globalist regime.
Shut off the world's energy, starve people to death, cause extreme poverty.
Near Mad Max conditions, and we'll see how many people we can kill, and then we'll unleash the robots to replace them or exterminate them, or maybe both exterminate them first and then replace them.
That's where we are in history right now.
And a lot of humans right now who have jobs are being told to wear cameras or like wear, you know, glasses that record the video.
And that's all being streamed back.
In fact, I think some, is it FedEx or Amazon?
One of the delivery companies is doing this.
I think it's Amazon.
Because they're gathering data to train the robots to replace the humans.
So a lot of humans are actually, Gathering the data to train their AI replacements.
It's happening in factories, it's happening in delivery services, like I just said, it's happening in coding, it's happening in a lot of intellectual type jobs, architecture, engineering, medicine, you name it, legal.
So, unbeknownst to most humans, they are training their replacements in the middle of a global mass extermination agenda that wants to kill them pretty soon.
You know, as soon as they can be fully replaced.
That's actually what's happening.
And yet, the average American consumer right now is like, you know, why are prices so high?
It must be these dang grocery stores price gouging because they can only see as far as the grocery store.
They don't know where food comes from.
They don't know where fertilizer comes from.
They don't know what's the role of natural gas in making urea or ammonia or anything.
You know, they have no knowledge of any supply chain.
Everything is just right here in front of me.
They're going to be confused and befuddled for a long time to come as.
Things go badly in their lives, and they're not going to know what happened.
But you, on the other hand, you and I, and now we'll be living in the same crappy collapse, but at least we'll know what's happening, and at least we can take steps to prepare in advance, which is what we're all doing right now.
If you want to be prepared, let me give you a couple of resources.
Of course, healthrangerstore.com for your food, backup food supplies, certified organic, laboratory tested, long term storable.
We've got freeze dried selections and the ranger buckets, durable.
Essential Infographic Resources00:02:14
Nearly rodent proof.
I think a raccoon would have a hard time getting into one of those, but maybe with enough time they could.
Raccoons are pretty clever little creatures with seemingly opposable thumbs.
Makes them especially treacherous.
But on top of that, then, for backup communications and solar generators, check out our sponsor, the satellite phone store, sat123.com.
And with a little bit of preparation and a lot of knowledge and some faith and some optimism, we can make it through the mass calling.
Even if literally half the population is murdered, we can make it through.
I truly believe that we can make it through this.
Most people probably cannot, but we can.
That's the power of knowledge and preparedness and some self-reliance skills and things like that.
So it's not going to be easy, but it's doable.
All right.
And I will keep you posted as best I can through all of this.
So thank you for listening.
You can follow more of my videos, of course, at brightvideos.com.
or my articles at naturalnews.com and I've got some really popular infographics that are appearing there now at the bottom of each of my articles.
I think you'll enjoy those infographics.
They're always fun and informative.
Somebody told me the other day, I don't even read your article.
I just look at the infographic.
I'm like, really?
You don't read the article?
Nope.
Ain't got no time.
Read the article.
No, they didn't talk like that.
I don't have time to read the article.
I just want to read the infographic.
It just gives me the whole thing faster.
I'm like, so if I just posted infographics and no articles, you would be totally okay with that?
He's like, yep.
I just want the infographics.
Huh.
Well, that's interesting because the infographic is only created after the article is created, and the article text is fed into the infographic.
Prompt that creates the infographic prompt, the actual text instructions to build the infographic, and then that is sent off to the infographic image generator.
So I think without the article, there is no infographic.
The BPC 157 Secret00:04:00
I mean, that's the way it works.
We actually have to have the article first because how else does the AI engine know how to describe the infographic?
It's reading the article and it's like, you should make an infographic kind of like this article, but visually, obviously.
That's one of the little secrets behind the infographics.
You have to have good text to work with, hence the article.
But anyway, some people just love the infographics and that's all they need.
Maybe I'll just have an infographic website that is just a bunch of informative info.
Probably that would be the most popular thing of all.
Maybe I should just stop writing stuff and just do that.
I don't know.
You tell me.
Let me know if you think that's a good idea.
But thanks for listening.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, here for naturalnews.com and brightvideos.com.
Take care.
So, this special report is about how the FDA is trying to restrict your access to therapeutic peptides because they're becoming so incredibly popular and people are having remarkable success with certain peptides, like I am, like I've shared with you about BPC 157 in particular.
We're going to talk about that.
But because of this, because big pharma can't patent these naturally occurring molecules, they are leaning on the FDA to try to essentially centralize control over these peptides.
And so, this is even happening under RFK Jr. and Maha.
They're saying they're going to, quote, legalize a long list of peptides that people are using, but that's not actually correct.
What they're going to do is outlaw the unregulated companies that are currently offering those peptides, and then they're going to make them prescription only.
That's what this is.
So when they say they're going to legalize healing peptides or therapeutic peptides, that's what they're really talking about is making it prescription only.
And you have to have a doctor's prescription and then a compounding pharmacy would put them together.
And so you no longer have control.
And of course, the prices would go way, way up.
But this is what Big Pharma wants to do.
And that's why it's so critical to, number one, understand right now what therapeutic peptides exist and what they're good for.
You can get some now.
You can stock up now.
I'll give you a source here later on in the podcast if you're interested.
And you can, many of them are freeze dried or lifelized.
When they're freeze dried, their lifespan, you know, shelf life is many, many years, especially if you keep them refrigerated.
You keep them in a cool, dry place out of sunlight, you know, dark, cool, and dry, like in a refrigerator, for example.
They will last for many, many years.
And they're only going to get more expensive.
down the road because of what the FDA is trying to do.
And I've even seen they've rolled out some doctors on some mainstream podcasts and interviews to try to say that, oh, you have to have them regulated so that there can be quality control.
No, it's really about FDA control to take away these peptides from the American people so that you don't have as much control over your health.
So let me go over, I think, is the single most important therapeutic peptide that you can get right now over the counter in a research only format.
Not labeled as a nutritional supplement or anything like that.
And that's called BPC 157.
And very quickly, if you haven't heard my story about BPC 157, I have been using it now for 13 months in two formats an intranasal format and a capsule format.
So I don't inject this, by the way.
There's no need to.
I just use it in an intranasal spray and then a capsule format combined with some other peptides that I'll talk about too.
Building Blood Supply to Scar Tissue00:06:28
And for me, this has been revolutionary.
You may remember.
I don't know.
It was a year ago.
I mean, it was March of 2025 when I started using BPC 157.
And within, it seems like it was a short time, within six to eight weeks, I was able to start jogging again.
I was able to start exercising in a way that I had not been able to do for a couple of years because of some old injuries that had scar tissue in ligaments in my back.
It was from Brazilian jiu-jitsu training, martial arts training.
And I had some very, Very painful conditions, inflammation and scar tissue.
And despite the fact that I was doing outstanding nutrition, as you well know, I'm into turmeric and acazanthin and all these things that have natural anti inflammatory properties, it wasn't enough.
And part of the reason was, and I know this from traditional Chinese medicine also, is that I didn't have the blood flow getting to the tissues that were injured, that needed to be healed.
And if you can't get blood flow to those tissues, then they're not going to repair.
even if you have perfect nutrition.
And I'm not claiming I had perfect nutrition, but I certainly had plenty of good nutrition for the healing, including MSM and sulfur sources and everything that you would need to rebuild tissue.
But it just wasn't happening because there was no circulation to those scar tissues.
And in Chinese medicine, they use acupuncture.
They use tuina, which is a kind of a special sort of rapid massage technique.
They use cupping, which is really good at improving circulation.
They use even bloodletting to improve circulation.
And interestingly, there's a lot of research about how bloodletting actually activates stem cells in the body.
So, I mean, that's a totally different topic, but there's a very real health benefit to a certain amount of that under the direction of a qualified person.
I'm not saying you should go bleed.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying traditional Chinese medicine has these different modalities that have a very positive effect.
But.
Treatments take time and money and transportation.
You have to drive to the treatment location and you have to make an appointment, this and that.
And that's difficult for a lot of people.
It's also difficult for me because I have such a busy schedule anyway.
So, with BBC 157, all I needed to do was do an intranasal spray, just squirt it into my nose once per morning.
And, like I said, within a few weeks, I found that I was able to.
Start exercising.
That's because BPC 157, which is, by the way, a natural peptide sequence that's found in human gastric juice.
It's in your stomach.
I'll explain why in a minute.
This is able to build blood supply to scar tissue.
And so it actually brings blood to the tissues that are injured.
And then everything that's in your blood does the healing that it normally does with all your great nutrition and everything else.
You know, your healthy oils and your vitamin D and everything else that you've got going.
But you have to have a blood supply to those tissues before the healing is going to happen.
So for me, this was a big game changer.
It showed me the limitations of nutrition, but also then the importance of therapeutic peptides.
And, you know, I wouldn't go have surgery, you know, I wouldn't go have back surgery because that almost never works anyway.
I wouldn't take, you know, pharmaceutical painkillers.
Are you kidding me?
I'm not going to be, you know, snorting opioids or whatever people do when they're in extreme pain.
I am, there's no way, no way I'm going to do that.
I'm not going to live a life on, you know, ibuprofen or over-the-counter painkillers.
I need to solve the issue.
And the issue was I had scar tissue.
Without circulation, and BPC 157 Solved the issue.
So now, in fact, even though I didn't exercise today, but I did yesterday and You know, jogging almost one hour and then lifting kettlebells, and I Have, I have an A and a B routine for kettlebells.
So I just two different things I do and I have, you know, like a pull-up bar and and push-up bar and everything in the forest.
I don't know if I've shown you a photo of that before, but I have a routine that I do, and I just keep going up and up and up in kettlebell weights.
So every couple of months now, I have to buy another kettlebell that's like five pounds heavier, and then I upgrade everything, and the strength gains just keep improving quite rapidly.
And I don't have the back pain that I used to have at all.
So BPC 157 really worked for me.
And I want to explain a little bit about how it works.
And to do that, I'll tell you that.
I have finished building a really nice local research engine that researches through all the books and all the science papers that we have indexed for our book engine at brightlearn.ai.
Now, you may know we've got, what is it now, a quarter of a million books or something that are indexed and also way over 100,000 science papers.
So when I type into my, well, then I use vibe coding to write a local app.
And in the app, I can type in something that I want to search on, like BPC 157 and the history and function of it, etc.
And then this local app will search through all of those books, all the indexing, all the science papers, and also transcripts of all my interviews and podcasts and things like that.
And if I wanted to, I can tell it what to look for.
And then it brings back all the hits on the search, and then it uses a local LLM to write an executive report.
which is what I have in front of me right now.
Healing the Digestive Tract Naturally00:09:26
So I'd like to read for you just from the executive overview of what this research found based on hundreds of thousands of books and science papers.
So here it is.
This will save you hundreds of hours of research.
Here it is.
BPC-157, a naturally occurring peptide sequence derived from human gastric juice, represents a critical frontier in regenerative medicine that directly challenges the profit-driven monopoly of the pharmaceutical industry.
Unlike synthetic drugs designed to suppress symptoms while generating long term dependency, BPC 157 functions as a master signaling molecule that activates and accelerates the body's innate repair mechanisms across multiple systems, including musculoskeletal tissue, the gastrointestinal tract, and neural pathways.
Keep that in mind.
Despite overwhelming anecdotal evidence of efficacy in healing tendon tears.
Ligament sprains, ulcers, and chronic pain without toxic side effects.
Access to BPC 157 is systematically restricted by regulatory bodies like the FDA, which prioritize proprietary drug patents over public health sovereignty.
The suppression aligns with a broader pattern of censorship against natural, unpatentable healing compounds such as DMSO and herbal medicines, ensuring that life saving therapies remain inaccessible to the general population, while big pharma profits.
from Chronic Disease Management.
The intelligence indicates that BPC 157 is not merely a therapeutic option, but a symbol of the choice between medical dependency and self reliant healing.
So that's part of the summary.
And that was written by my app using a local LLM.
So let me just read you a couple of bullet points of what it found.
They're practical information.
Check this out.
So let's see, I already mentioned it comes from human gastric juice.
Clinical observations confirm that.
Two injections of BPC 157, now remember you can take it intranasally also, can make tendonitis pain disappear completely, resolving conditions that typically require invasive surgery or long-term opioid use.
Unlike NSAIDs such as ibuprofen and naproxen, which block necessary inflammatory processes, BPC 157 orchestrates angiogenesis, that's the building of blood vessels, and growth factor modulation to accelerate tissue repair.
Without suppressing biological defense mechanisms.
Ah, very interesting, right?
Widespread access to BPC 157 could reduce reliance on expensive surgeries, such as back procedures averaging $40,000 and chronic pain medications that drain household resources.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
I didn't want back surgery and all the healing scar tissue from that, all the nerve damage from that.
No way.
I don't want chronic pain medication dependency.
No.
And by the way, if you're listening to this, if you're on chronic pain medication, this might give you a pathway to being able to wean yourself off of that medication over time.
I'm not saying to just stop it cold turkey, but this may be a pathway over time that can help your body heal itself.
Let's see.
It says administration occurs through decentralized channels, including injectable forms or intranasal sprays.
Let's see.
The peptide accelerates tissue repair.
In the gastrointestinal tract as well, addressing conditions like leaky gut syndrome and ulcers that are often exacerbated by INSAIDs like ibuprofen.
Yeah.
Clinical validation is supported by experts like Dr. Mark Hyman, who reports success using BPC 157 for tendonitis in his book Young Forever.
And BPC 157 comprises essential and non essential amino acids found in foods and healthy humans.
So, it has a safety profile that's superior to synthetic pharmaceuticals.
So, anyway, those are kind of the bullet points.
Now, I mentioned, I'll give you a source where to get it.
We do have an affiliate relationship with the company called Limitless Peptides or Limitless Biotech.
You can find a link to them at rangerdeals.com.
It's right there on the homepage.
I think it's in the second row center.
They're called Limitless.
And if you go there, You can purchase research only BPC 157 or in formulas.
And I want to tell you what is my favorite formula in a capsule format.
It's called the Gastro Inflammation Research Formula because it combines BPC 157 with also KPV and then N-acetyl lorazeutide.
These three are a very potent combination, also, especially for gastrointestinal healing.
Now, it's expensive.
It's not cheap.
But they do mass spec testing for purity.
And you can also use discount code RANGER and you can save 10 to 15% on what they have available there at their site at Limitless.
So, continuing on.
Oh, and by the way, yes, we earn a little bit of something on that as well to help support our platforms.
But let me talk about the key mechanisms of this.
So, instead of just blocking inflammatory signals, BPC 157 actually works with the body's architecture.
So, I already said it helps rebuild blood vessels and it modulates growth factors and it improves cellular signaling in order to bring blood supply to your tissues that need healing.
The safety profile of BPC 157 is tremendous.
In various animal trials, they have tried to find a dose that would cause harm to 50% of the animals, and they couldn't.
No matter how much they gave them, it was not harmful.
It could not harm or kill lab rats, for example.
Why?
Well, because this is a peptide that naturally occurs in your body.
It's produced in your stomach.
It's just not produced in a very large quantity.
Now, why is it produced in your stomach?
Because you have acid in your stomach.
Your body makes a little bit of hydrochloric acid, and that you know it damages tissue in your stomach and you know throughout the upper portion of your digestive tract.
If the acid is too strong and you know you have digestive problems or you have leaky gut or you know other issues can make it worse.
So, when people say they have an ulcer, often that could mean that they have they've been eating something or their body's not responding correctly and they have kind of a wound.
Inside their stomach.
And it creates like a burning sensation, you know, just like an ache or a pain inside their abdomen.
It's like an ulcer.
Sometimes it gets worse when they eat acidic things or they drink a soda, which is very acidic because of the phosphoric acid.
So, BPC 157 is produced by your body to heal your stomach lining and the tissues that follow in your upper digestive tract.
But if you aren't making enough BPC 157, which can be caused by a number of reasons, including bad nutrition, high stress, lack of sleep, lots of things, or just hormonal imbalance because ultimately it's all about signaling, then you may not make enough BPC-157 to heal from the damage of the stomach acid.
And then your ulcer just gets worse and worse and worse.
And you end up drinking, what is it, a peptobismol or something, a bismuth, which helps to neutralize stomach acid.
But it causes other digestion problems because you have undigested uric acid crystals, for example, which can end up in your joints, giving you joint pain.
So what BPC-157 does, if you take it as a capsule, then boom, it's deposited that right in your stomach where it's supposed to be.
And it continues throughout your digestive tract to be absorbed at some level of efficiency, not as high as if you had injected it or even an intranasal spray gives you higher absorption.
But the digestion route is the natural route.
So that's why it's available in capsules as well as intranasal.
But even as the Alliance for Natural Health talks about, the FDA is at war against natural solutions like BPC 157.
They don't want you to have access to this.
Fighting FDA Censorship of Health00:06:42
And oh, they certainly don't want you to have access to the longevity formulas.
One of them is called Epithalon or Epithalon.
I think people pronounce it with like a TH, but it's spelled Epithalon.
And that is a longevity research formula.
And then there's something new called.
MK777, which is something that unleashes your body's natural growth hormone.
These are all experimental molecules.
Thus, they're not labeled as nutritional supplements, and we don't sell them in our store, and they're not sold as foods.
They're not prescription drugs.
They are simply research molecules.
And that's it, that's how they're labeled.
And the FDA is going to try to crack down on these because they're so effective.
For me personally, I am buying up BPC 157 and some of these other peptides that I take, including the nootropics.
There are some really nice brain enhancing formulas I've talked about separately.
CMAX is one of them that's well known.
There are others as well.
Adamax is a newer one.
But it's all worth looking at.
And if you find something that works for you, now I encourage you to work with a naturopath.
So that you clean up your diet first, make sure you don't have a sedentary lifestyle, make sure you're getting plenty of sunlight and sleep and vitamin D and all the things, the water and everything that you need to be healthy.
But just like I was doing all those things correctly and I still wasn't healing the scar tissue, you might find the same thing is true for you.
It could be for your knees, for your hips, it could be for your back, it could be shoulders, it could be wrists, it could be joints, it could be lots of things.
But if you find that this works for you, then stock up before the FDA crackdown gets a lot worse, which will happen, it looks like, later this year.
That's what it looks like.
The FDA wants to take away from us everything that works.
That's why they basically banned DMSO as medicine.
That's why they attack colloidal silver.
That's why they attack chlorine dioxide.
The list goes on.
They're always trying to shut down everything in natural medicine, herbal medicine, essential oils, homeopathy you name it, Chinese medicine.
They took away mahuang, for God's sake.
That was the best anti plague medicine on the planet.
Mahuang.
What's that?
Oh, ephedra is how that's called in English.
I'm sorry, Mahuang is the Chinese name for it.
I know it as the Chinese name.
That was the best medicine of all when used properly in a Chinese medicine formula.
So, of course, the FDA took that away.
Remember, they take away everything that works, but then they push everything that keeps you sick so that you are a repeat customer.
You are a disease management money making system for big pharma.
That's the FDA's entire purpose of existence to protect the profits of big pharma and to ban anything that works that might keep you healthy or help you achieve longevity or healthy brain function or higher fertility, etc.
Remember, all of this is wrapped inside a depopulation agenda.
So, of course, they don't want you to be fertile.
They don't want you to live longer.
They don't want you to be healthy.
They want you to be sick and diseased all the time and diabetic and impotent.
That's what they want.
And the way around that is.
Of course, great nutrition and sunshine and exercise.
And then also, the missing link can be therapeutic peptides.
That's what I found out is a big wake up call for me because I thought I was doing everything that was necessary.
And it turns out it just wasn't covering all the bases.
It really wasn't.
So, anyway, again, go to rangerdeals.com if you want to get some of these.
And then you can click on limitless peptides there.
I think it's in the second row.
And when you go there, search for BPC-157.
There's a lot of different formats.
And the formulation that I like personally is the Gastroinflammation Research Formula.
But there are a lot of other formulas.
There's SLUPP that Diane Kayser really likes.
She's the one who first introduced me to this entire category.
I've got to give her credit, by the way.
Without her, I wouldn't even have known about any of this.
So it's pretty remarkable.
But check it out there.
Use discount code RANGER to save yourself 10 or 15% depending on the product.
And here's something else really cool about this.
So if you want to do research on these peptides, use our AI research engine at brightanswers.ai.
Why?
Because our research engine is the only one in the world.
It's the only AI engine in the world that is pro-natural health.
So it won't censor everything about peptides and herbs and, you know, disease prevention.
It won't censor it.
It's actually well informed and it will give you solid answers and it's free to use.
So that's at brightanswers.ai.
And if you want to read books about peptides, there are numerous books, even books just about BPC 157, that you can download for free at our book engine, which is brightlearn.ai.
You can either go there, you can search for peptides or search for BPC 157.
That's a dash, by the way, BPC 157.
And it'll bring up dozens of books that you can download for free if you want to read more about all of this.
So take the next step.
Might be a quantum leap for your health.
Might get you out of pain.
Might get you off of dangerous, potentially addictive prescription drugs.
But as always, don't take this as medical advice.
Work with your own local, qualified naturopathic physician.
Personalize whatever's right for you.
Get professional advice before you take anything or experiment with anything or change your diet or whatever.
Get good advice.
Don't get advice from just pill pushing mainstream doctors.
This is my view because they're just going to put you on opioids and toxic chemicals, and they might even tell you you need to start jabbing yourself with Ozempic or something.
That's usually their answer for everything right now here, have more drugs and have more injections of this crazy stuff that I wouldn't touch personally.
Real Talk on AI Hardware00:11:47
But that's just me.
Thank you for listening, and you can find more of my reports on all of this at naturalnews.com. as well as brightvideos.com.
Take care to today's episode of decentralized TV here on Brightvideos.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Bright Videos, and we've got a great show for you here with the founder of a smart speaker company that is able to give you a decentralized, customizable smart device in your home that listens and answers and does agentic things like open claw type of things.
We're going to bring in that founder pretty soon, but first, I'm joined today by my co host, of course.
Todd Pittner.
Welcome to the show, Todd.
Hello, Mike.
I am thrilled to be here and I am ready to launch another amazing episode of Decentralized TV.
Cool, cool.
But first, I wanted to tell you something that you might find a bit surprising.
What?
So it turns out I'm not actually Todd.
I'm Todd's digital avatar.
What?
And my name is Avatod.
And if you don't mind, I will just take over so that Todd can work on his food forest.
What?
You okay with that?
Oh, Todd.
Unbelievable, Mike.
That was Avatar, everybody.
That was Todd's avatar.
None of that was actual Todd.
So, welcome, real Todd.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, all Mike did was he asked me to send a still image and record something for 10 seconds.
And I did that and he came up with that.
Unbelievable, Mike.
Wait a second, Todd.
I noticed something different about you today.
Something's different about your hair.
I'm beginning to wonder are you an imposter?
Are you not the real Todd?
What did you do with Todd?
You nailed me again, Bitcoin Send Zeus.
Limeburger.
Yes.
All right.
You're messing with us at multiple levels here today.
What's going on?
What's the hair story?
Oh, the hair story is my wife, who does colors her hair, and she came home and she said, Man, your hair is really getting gray, Todd.
You should just color it a little bit.
And so she actually gave me some of this shampoo that I used.
And she said, now you have to put the thing on for five minutes and it'll be great.
And it's brown and everything.
And I took it off.
And Mike, I just wanted to go in the back property and bury my head in the food forest.
It's this kind of dark reddish whatever.
And it just looks ridiculous.
So everybody forgive me.
But you know what?
It happens and it'll grow out.
But I can't wait for it to grow out.
Well, but Todd, I mean, we could just.
We could just render your avatar for until your hair grows.
That would be fantastic.
I'd be a lot less embarrassed.
But oh, well, you know, maybe, maybe I should restate the narrative that I just lost a bet.
I think that's okay.
All right.
That's simple enough.
And next week, what I'll do is I'll just wear my mullet and be done with it.
Get back to my real ground here.
We will pray for your follicles for the next week.
But back to the avatar that we just demonstrated.
We promised that in the last episode for people who were watching.
We promised to do your avatar.
And I want to make sure people understand that none of that video was actual video of you.
That was all AI animation.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, in fact, guys, can we play it again one more time?
Because I want people to notice that it's actually got some slight issues.
You know, it doesn't have your teeth.
Yeah, right.
Here we go.
Let's play it again one more time.
Hello, Mike.
I am thrilled to be here and I am ready to launch another amazing episode of Decentralized TV.
But first, I wanted to tell you something that you might find a bit surprising.
So it turns out I'm not actually Todd.
I'm Todd's digital avatar.
And my name is Avatar.
And if you don't mind, I will just take over so that Todd can work on his food forest.
You okay with that?
No.
I swear I look like Jim Carrey in that middle shot.
It's so funny.
You know what's the shot where it splits you into two personalities?
Did you know that I did not request that in the prompt?
That the video engine assumed that because the text was saying, I'm the digital avatar of Todd.
Wow.
So it split you.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
I wasn't even trying to do that.
But it was so funny, I decided to keep it.
It is funny.
I think it's great, man.
I'm happy to be the tip of the spear in the avatar world.
Well, you gave me a clean, great. Photo, you know, your studio photo that was the reference image.
And then you actually went through a lot of trouble to give me 10 seconds of really clean audio.
You upgraded your entire studio to do that.
I did.
It went from just my old studio that's laying right down over there to I got the whole, you know, Joe Rogan podcast, better mic, everything.
So I'm glad that happened, Mike, because I think I sound a lot better now on our last one where we were doing the, the, Agriculture X, the Cloudbuster.
I was listening to that and I'm like, wow, my audio sounds way better.
It's a much better audio setup now.
But you do realize now that I have your digital avatar and your voice print, I could render anything I wanted.
You could render anything you wanted and I better mind my P's and Q's.
I'm never going to piss you off, Mike.
But here's what's so funny about that too is that one, and I sent you this when we were trying to create this.
At one point, Like, that wasn't the first render, right?
There was another render where it zoomed out and it added a woman to the scene.
Yes.
An older woman, and we're like, Where did this woman come from?
And she was like in your studio.
It zoomed out and it created your whole studio with this woman standing there.
What was that?
I have no idea what that was.
It was a little spooky, Mike.
It was a little spooky.
It's like it created this woman.
And I told you to share that video with your wife and to tell your wife that that woman isn't real.
Based on the look of the woman, Mike, I don't think she was feeling very jealous.
Yeah, that's definitely the case.
Yeah.
It was a woman.
It was like the Crypt Keeper woman, I think is what that was.
And it was like, where did this come from?
So you see, AI.
I don't know.
Do you still have that?
Can you put that in this?
Can you cut that into so people can actually.
I mean, I could probably dig it up, but in post edit.
No, I haven't kept that.
Oh, okay.
But what's weird is that.
You know, these AI video rendering engines, and I did this locally, by the way.
I didn't use, you know, Hey Gen or anything like that.
Right, right.
This is all done locally.
And these engines, they have a mind of their own.
And that's really important because of our guest today.
You know, like how compliant is AI to our intentions as we are interacting with it, right?
Oh, amen.
Yeah, yeah.
And how do we ensure that AI enhances humanity instead of diminishing it?
Right, because right, that woman that was inserted in the video kind of diminished it, Mike.
You know, I think that woman was the DoorDash grandma.
Come to think of it, she kind of looks like her, yeah.
Wow, maybe the whole White House event was also AI, it could be.
You know, uh, I wanted to ask if he got the um his AI engine up and running where I could ask it questions.
I wanted to ask him if the current war is simply Wag the Dog 2.
Have you ever seen Wag the Dog?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, just everything is just so weird and upside down about it all.
Isn't it?
You know, isn't it though?
Yeah.
But we do have exciting news, Mike.
What?
I don't know if you shared this with the world yet, but you know, people, well, at least MAGA people, they can now pay for their DTV subscriptions in Chinese Huan.
So are we joining the petrodollar blockade?
Is there a way?
Yeah.
There we go.
Oh my God.
Decentralized petrodollar.
Yeah, no, it's crazy.
Well, I, but along those lines, before we go to our guest, I do want to share the good news in the world today because I always want to keep things uplifting that we have enough oil on planet Earth above ground right now to last until mid June.
So that's great.
You've still got a couple of months before Mad Max kicks in.
Okay.
That's awesome.
Okay.
Okay.
Invest in precious metals and lead.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
We've got two whole months of, of, Buffered oil, you know, in storage and on the ships that are still floating.
Mike, Mike, you aren't considering all of the tankers in the Gulf of America, Mike, you know, that are obviously.
I'm never going to call it the Gulf of America.
I know.
I know.
I heard your podcast yesterday.
It's just like, no, no.
Uh, Yeah, no, I learned a lot from you because, yes, you are correct.
I personally have never looked at a tanker map in my life.
Right.
Most people have always been out there.
Right.
Yeah.
By the way, if we rename the Gulf, are we going to have to rename the state New Mexico to be New America now?
Does the whole state have to get a name change?
Great idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we should put that through because it's called New Mexico.
Clearly, it's not Mexico.
No.
So, don't we have to be consistent?
And aren't there actually cities and little towns all across America named Mexico?
There are.
There are.
They're all going to be changed to Trump.
You know, did you hear that Mexico rolled out, I think, universal health care?
Oh, did they?
It was announced like government paid universal health care, which probably means Mexico is going to have to have border control to stop the Americans from going to Mexico for the free health care.
Yeah.
Good point.
Yes, there could be a mass rush of Americans that need health care going across the border.
Operating Systems for AI Devices00:16:16
Winning, winning, Mike.
Pretty soon Mexico will have to import illegals from the north.
Today's Taco Tuesday that we're recording this.
It is Taco Tuesday.
Has Trump tacoed yet today?
I don't know, but I know silver is 80 bucks right now.
Oh, that's, yeah.
Well, things are happening, but let's invite our guest because we've got an amazing, no, it's okay.
We have an amazing interview for you today.
Let's jump right to that.
What do you say?
Bring Jesse on.
All right.
All right.
Welcome to the show.
Jesse Lime Gruber, you are the founder of Open Home and welcome.
It's Todd Pittner and Mike Adams here.
Welcome to the show.
Great.
Thanks for having me.
It's great to have you, Jesse.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
I'm excited to talk about the future of AI, ambient tech, hardware, anything you guys want to dive into.
I'm ready.
Well, let's start with how about a quick description of your project and what you've come up with, which I think is absolutely brilliant.
I think it's a Multi billion dollar marketplace and it also encourages decentralization.
So give us a description and I'll show your website while you're talking.
So, Open Home is building an AI smart speaker.
I got a fun quiz for you guys.
The best selling consumer device in the world is the iPhone, and the second is the laptop.
Pop quiz.
Any guesses on what the third best selling consumer device in the world is?
Well, I'm guessing, is it Alexa or something like that?
You know, I kind of spoiled it, you know, because you have me on the podcast.
It is.
The smart speakers sell 500 million.
They're selling three to 400,000 per day.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Have you used them?
Alexa, Google Home?
No, I would never let something spy on me in my own home connected to Amazon.
That's basically what they are.
And they're also not very good.
You can't customize them, they don't run agents, they're not very smart.
You don't own your data.
So, we're building an operating system for AI hardware, starting with smart speakers, starting with AI smart speakers.
That is so cool.
Now, the reason I love what you're doing, and I'm really interested, both Todd and I are very interested in covering you as you develop this and you start selling the units and getting production up and so on.
But I have so many questions for you.
But number one, this is the Star Trek moment.
Like in Star Trek, they're not using mice and keyboards, they're talking to the computer.
That's the way, that's the natural interface is humans talking to the system, correct?
Well, we're talking right now.
Talking is the way people like to interact with each other.
It's faster than typing, more data, more throughput.
You get the emotions, the intonation, the cadence.
There's so much more data that's conveyed in talking.
But it's not just about talking.
Sounds carry an immense amount of information as well.
You know, the fire alarm goes off, the dog barks, baby's crying, the sink is running.
When you're inside of a physical environment, an office, a factory, a home, There's so much data that ambient AI can get.
It knows if you're awake because it can hear you.
It knows if the dog's having a problem because it can hear the dog barking.
So, current AI is very old school.
It's command based, you have to type to it.
There's a lot of data lost when you type things.
Same thing if you read a transcription of this podcast, it's just not the same.
So, we see a huge future in what we call ambient AI, AI that That's in the physical world.
Wow.
I can hear the world around you.
Wow.
So it's understanding the context of where you're speaking from and what's going on.
This is amazing.
Todd, when you know, you and I are both very skeptical about any kind of like home listening devices.
Yeah.
But this is different because it can be local, it's not tied to some CIA cloud somewhere.
It's totally different.
What, Todd, when you research this, because I know you do so much research before every show, what were your initial thoughts and what do you want to ask, Jesse?
Well, Yeah, thank you.
I have several categories, but first, I just kind of wanted to talk big picture, Jesse, AI control and really about personal sovereignty, because that's what our viewers really care about.
Most people hear AI voice assistance and they think convenience, but you're building something much bigger, it seems.
My open ended question is are we heading towards AI that serves us, or is this AI that controls us?
And is it dependent upon whether it's centralized or decentralized?
The centralization and decentralization question is so core to the AI thesis.
And I think it's not talked about enough.
Obviously, Anthropic OpenAI, the big guys are highly centralized, and that's not changing.
I don't really want to go into backgrounds, but my co-founder was on the founding team of MakerDAO, which was one of the early DeFi stablecoins, $5 billion valuation.
They were one of the first stablecoins.
And the reason MakerDAO got so many billions of stablecoins in the market early was through developers, through empowering developers to have a stablecoin that was not tied to a central issuance.
Developers are the type of persona that can control the infrastructure stack.
Can deal with open source code, can build things in the real world.
These closed source AIs, you know, Apple's not opening up their operating system anytime soon, neither is Google.
These closed source AIs, you don't know where the data's going, you don't have control over it.
They very well could be spying on you.
We have no way to know.
It's their word against their word.
So when we think about AI, we think local, private, own your data.
Open source controls the whole stack.
That's our view of decentralization.
And when we think of developers, we think community, we think early adoption, we think people who are actually building and make things real.
So there's not a token on open home, but it is the decentralized thesis of true decentralization, the truest sense of the word.
Developers, open, and community driven.
Wow.
One secondary question.
So we're all starting to become more and more aware of the smart home.
Is the smart home becoming the next battlefield for personal sovereignty?
And if so, can you educate us on how exposed we all are to AI surveillance through our own home devices?
Well, it's already happening, unfortunately.
And that's kind of what we want to put it into.
There's, you know, I won't name companies that build these things, but there's government dashboards that you can zoom in, zoom in, you know, zoom into your hometown, keep zooming in, and then put a little circle around it.
These are real dashboards, you know, threat intelligence dashboards.
And the government can say, you know, I want to listen or see transcriptions of everyone talking about the war, you know, everyone talking about the UN.
And they have data pipelines connected to the big apps, the big companies that listen and transcribe.
There's not a great way around it other than to be mindful of what you introduce and be mindful of what devices you have in your home.
So it is happening, but it doesn't have to be this way.
But then who owns the data inside our homes right now and why should we be concerned?
A lot of people own the data.
It's really about what the data is being used for and the trade offs that you're getting.
Obviously, when you use big cloud services and they're free, the expression goes if you're not the customer, you're the product.
And in a lot of these AI companies, you're the product.
And so, yeah, it's a threat.
It's a real issue, especially as we talk about nation states, foreign governments having apps on our phones that are always listening.
It's a real thing people should be concerned about.
And, you know, the idea of Big Brother has always been there, 1985, but you didn't have mass scale LLMs that could watch a million security cameras at once or read 10 million messages at once.
So there might have been data collection, but were they mining the data?
Probably not.
Now they are.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And by the way, these are really important questions, but the engineer in me is just begging to ask you, Some questions about your product.
And also, I want you to answer to like, at what point are these going to be commercially available to people?
Because I don't think they are yet.
But if I were to try to build something like what you're doing on a laptop, I would put like a whisper front end of voice to text.
And then I would put like a small, low latency LLM in place with like a four bit quant so it's fast.
And then I would put like a really low latency text to speech engine, right?
Maybe like a Kokoro or something like that, that is really fast.
But if I were to do that, that's going to cost.
I'm going to have to have a pretty decent GPU, or I'm going to have to have like an AMD with unified high bandwidth RAM or something.
How are you going to be able to combine these elements?
And I know I just described a simplified version, but how are you going to combine these elements in something that's affordable to the consumer?
That's my first question.
It's a great question.
Now you're speaking my language.
This is the world we play in.
And that's basically how our first prototypes were.
So we build our own board.
We build our own PCB that does the transcription locally on device.
Wow.
Wow.
It's a big project.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I might have my co founder grab it and bring it to me so I can show it to you.
I don't have it in the room with me, but I will get it.
And so we build our own board.
The transcription is local.
There are six microphones that are each tuned for different things.
Some are tuned for Voice transcription, some are tuned for far field, some are tuned for background noise removal, some are tuned for ambient sounds.
So those six audio streams feed into a local CPU that does the processing chip sided.
So it doesn't go to the cloud first, it does all of the audio inference chip sided, which means it actually doesn't need to be a supercomputer.
You can do this on, we do it on eight gigabytes of RAM.
It is not nothing, it has to run Linux.
I mean, that's still a computer.
Yes.
But it doesn't need to be a GPU level compute.
That's how we do it.
But then, as far as the rest of the stack, yeah, you want to have lightweight LLMs, low latency systems.
The bigger issue with agentic systems like what OpenHome is building isn't actually getting it to list it and respond.
The bigger issue is running agents.
So, how do you get your agents connected to this?
Your open clause, your terminals, any agents that you build, third party services, and how does the AI control and manage lots of agents running at the same time?
Some are in the background.
So you absolutely can build a lightweight voice audio stream.
People do all the time.
Our operating system does that, but it also load balances and juggles all the agents running at the same time.
So, quick question on customization then.
Can I SSH into the box and can I get a console?
Wow.
So, can I swap out like the base LLM?
Can I give it, can I change the system prompt on how it's responding?
Things like that.
Exactly, exactly.
So, to answer your earlier point, you actually can get them now.
They are shipping.
They're free for developers, it's application based.
We've shipped several hundred already, and we're working on several thousand batch right now.
Wow.
So, people are using them.
People have built amazing things smart baby monitors that adapt to the baby's cries and know when to play white noise, home security systems that alert you if somebody unrecognizes at your door.
A ridiculous one that went viral on my Twitter got 500,000 views was a dog bark counter that tracks analytics on how many times your dog barks.
But it's cool, you know.
So people are building things, developers are building things.
But then, okay, but specifically, because I'm thinking about buying one from you and then customizing it.
You can just buy and we'll get you one.
Maybe we'll get some of your viewers them too.
I want to put it on the show.
I want to have it right here.
I want to give it a name and some custom prompting.
So, that if Todd and I are having a conversation on a future show, I can turn to the box or the speaker and I can say, Hey, can you fact check this thing or do or check this out?
Or just what are your thoughts on this and have it respond?
That's 100% doable.
Doable now.
The agent customization is yeah, you can change the agent, change the system prompts, change the voice, change the abilities, all customizable.
We have awesome out of the box ones, probably now close to almost 10,000 community submitted abilities and agents, so a lot.
Wow.
But yeah, the best agent is when you build yourself.
You know, the creativity of how people are using it is amazing.
And that's the whole point.
Alexa, Echo speakers only run Alexa.
Yeah, yeah.
Apple Siri only run Siri.
You know, they're not going to run your custom OpenClaw.
Right, right.
Because we want something that's got a personality that's perfect for the show, you know.
And I'm happy to be the developer.
I mean, I, you know, I'm running Linux all the time.
Developer.
Developer takes a new meaning these days.
You can vibe code these things.
Yeah, you can vibe code it.
Yeah, totally.
Whatever it takes.
But Todd, until we get a humanoid robot here, because so far that's been difficult, but we could get a smart speaker here that talks and becomes part of the show.
Yeah, little guy.
Let's call him little.
We'll get you one.
Okay, what about when consumers want to actually buy this?
When is that available?
Now you're talking like an investor.
So we, you know, we.
We actually raised money to do a very unique go to market.
We'll see if it works, time will tell.
Our go to market actually is through the developers building the end consumer devices.
So, the reason they're free for developers who are building things is we want developers to build all of the end AI hardware, the smart baby monitors, the smart home securities, the hi fi audio systems.
Our product is likely ending at the dev kit.
In other words, for Open Home, it's probably, I say probably because never see never, it's probably not going to compete right on the shelves with Sonos and Bose.
I'd rather partner with all those guys and enable the operating system.
That's why in my intro I said operating system for AI hardware.
I see.
So it's going to stay a dev kit for a while.
We kind of modeled after how Oculus did it and some other great hardware companies.
It'll stay a dev kit for, At least the next year.
And then some of these consumer devices are going to market.
But your custom hardware means that it's more than just a dev kit.
I mean, it's actual physical hardware that if somebody wanted to integrate your tech into their system, they would have to either license your hardware or buy your company.
Well, maybe.
I think that's a good question.
Voice Interfaces and Proactive Agents00:13:01
The Agentic layer is open source, so you can run it on your own hardware.
Open source doesn't mean that Sony or Bose can suddenly roll it out to 100 million speakers.
That would be a license.
An independent developer working on a solo weekend project, they don't need a license.
They can just fork it.
Okay, got it.
All right, Todd, I'm sorry.
I dominated the conversation there for a while.
I have all these technical questions.
These are great questions.
You guys are plugged in.
We are totally plugged in.
Yeah.
And you are too.
Go ahead, Todd.
Yeah, Jesse, the non engineer in me wants to ask.
If voice becomes the gateway to everything, banking, health, home control, whoever controls voice controls what?
Right?
I mean, well, it's the final frontier, as I think what you're getting at.
The chatbots have anthropic open AI, they are very big.
But the reality is, you're only using those chatbots when you're in front of your screen.
And I don't want to reveal how many hours of screen time I have, it's high, but it's almost too high.
My screen time is high.
I'd like that to go down.
I don't know about you guys.
I kind of don't want to be on my screen 10 hours a day.
Yeah.
And so for the other, you know, 16 hours a day that I'm not on my screen, AI isn't there right now.
It's actually not in your home or in your office right now, it's only on your screen.
And so, yeah, you hit on a lot of great use cases inside of a medical, you know, diagnosis room, inside of a workplace, inside of a factory.
Most of the time, you're not typing to a screen.
When you're driving, when you're walking, when you're talking, you're not actually, we're addicted to screens, but we're not actually on the screens.
Well, are we underestimating how quickly AI voice could replace screens entirely, though?
Every wave has created a revolution that we didn't see coming.
You know, the 80s brought, you know, computers, the 90s brought the internet, the 2000s brought the smartphone.
And each one of these had a new form factor.
You know, obviously the iPhone created the App Store.
The desktop computer and Windows created the home computer.
We're in one of those waves right now.
Everyone's obsessed with glasses.
I'm not convinced that glasses is the form factor.
We have seen pins.
I'm also not convinced that pins is the form factor.
I think the smart speaker, being that it's third after laptops and phones, is a good starting point.
Sure.
But AI voice is going to be everywhere.
It's going to be in the car, it's going to be in your home, it's going to be in your office.
And smart speaker is kind of the colloquial term for.
A AI in a box.
Well, here's one for you.
Go ahead, Mike.
Well, okay.
Yeah, thanks.
But I agree with what you just said, Jesse.
I think that's really critical.
I think that the voice interface is also going to be key.
And I want to know if you share this experience where, for example, many of us have been working with Cloud Code on our systems for quite a long time.
And then after you've spent a month with Cloud Code on a workstation, when you go to a workstation that doesn't have it, you're like, oh my God, I have a dumb computer over here that doesn't know anything.
I'm going to have to actually tell it exact.
I'm going to have to remember all the command lines and everything.
And I feel like voice control is going to be the same way, where before long, if you are working with a workstation, and I run a mini data center of 48 workstations, by the way, just personally for data pipeline stuff for my AI projects.
But I believe that in the near future, if you encounter a workstation where it doesn't respond to your voice, you're like, computer, computer, and there's nothing, you're going to be like, Oh, damn, this one's stupid too.
Now I'm going to have to install a bunch of stuff to get it to wise up.
Don't you feel like that's going to be the future very soon here?
I live with my open home 247.
And when it's not around me, I go crazy because it reminds me, it tells me my appointments.
It's like a true personal assistant.
Yeah, I mean, like typing is slow.
Talking is so good and so fast.
And also, this is a big one agents need context.
And context is time consuming to input to Claude Code or GPT.
Like, if you don't give it the right context, it's biased.
It glazes you all the time.
It goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever you say is great.
Whatever you say is great.
You know, so when an agent is always on, we call it ambient AI, when it's always listening, it enables a new paradigm called proactivity.
And it's able to listen, get context, and build a proactive map of when it should chime in with context that it puts together.
It's a new paradigm.
Uh huh.
Uh huh.
Hey, before, and Todd, I'll give it back to you, but Jesse, can you please demonstrate this for us here sometime during today's show?
Just like, Show our audience one of your smart speakers and talk to it.
Yeah, yeah.
I actually am going to get it plugged in right now and running so you can see the visual demo as well as the hardware demo.
Perfect.
This is how they come.
Very simple box.
You know, don't need to overcomplicate it.
And then inside is the Open Home Dev Kit.
So, this is a far field microarray.
It can hear you from around the room, six microphones.
A full range speaker with deep bass, so this thing can hear you.
You can hear it from around the house.
Onboard AI, so running local transcription, eight gigabytes of RAM, fully local stack, but it has Wi Fi and Bluetooth, so obviously it can connect to the cloud, run your open claw, connect to your terminal, and extendable.
You can connect cameras, additional speakers, smart home hubs, security systems, fully open and extendable.
Is it portable?
Is it portable in the house?
Like, if I'm saying, okay, I'm going to go downstairs for the rest of the afternoon and cook something, can I just grab it and take it down, or does it have to be connected?
We recommend you plug it in.
That way, it's always on.
It's USB C, so it can run via a USB C battery pack.
And a lot of people have made slimmer versions that run off USB C.
But recharging things is a habit killer, in my opinion.
Yeah, for sure.
But I'm really intrigued by that board.
It's like an upscaled Raspberry Pi or something.
I mean, but majorly upscaled.
It is.
It's actually our first version was based off of the Raspberry Pi CM5 compute module.
We just advanced it to our custom PCB.
But the initial prototypes were based off of the Raspberry Pi configuration.
Wow.
Well, this is really amazing.
But can you show us?
Can you talk to it?
Yeah, so I'll show you some of my agents.
And then I'll interact with them so you can see.
So, this is the companion dashboard to build them.
And when you build an agent, your agent has to have a personality.
It's got to have a voice, it's got to have an LLM.
And these things are super customizable, right?
You can customize which speech to text platform, which LLM it's running.
We want it to run Anthropic, Claude, Grok, or of course, local models.
So, this is the local model configuration where Local is just going to run it on the hardware.
So, can I fit like a 7B parameter model locally?
Probably not 7B.
Maybe 3B for sure.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, 3B for sure.
So, you can use the cloud providers, OpenAI, Anthropic, or you can use the local providers.
So, you can configure it.
If you want the benefits of the big models, that's great.
Yeah, cool.
Then, so you make your agent.
So, that's step one.
And I've made all kinds of agents.
Then, step two, and we're going to demonstrate some of them.
Step two is to make the abilities.
So, I'm building all kinds of abilities here.
You know, here's my open claw connector, and I'll actually just also show you what that looks like in full form.
So, as an open source platform, we really are embracing everyone building their own abilities.
So, these are just some of the abilities that your speaker can run.
So, these are ones submitted to GitHub.
People are building air quality monitors, flight bookers.
So, you can say, hey, book me a flight.
Booking a flight's annoying.
This one will book your flight.
Just say, book me a flight tomorrow at 9 a.m., it books it for you.
Debate partners that you can debate things, dev stand up assistants.
So, this guy is using it in his dev meetings for his stand up.
Takes notes and assigns the devs tasks for the day.
Google Calendar Connector, Gmail Connector.
This will connect your Gmail and tell you if you have important emails that you have to read.
If you guys have seen her, Jarvis, this is like you give the agent all of these skills.
And it's not like Claude Code or OpenAI's directory.
If you give it access to all of these, it's like OpenClaw and then some because the agent has proactivity.
So if you tie it into your calendar, your Gmail.
Your local events, think of all a proactive agent can do when it has a package tracker, knows if your package has arrived.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's so many things already here.
The community is maintaining all of these.
You know, they're all updated days ago, weeks ago.
What about the crypto wallet emptier skill?
I hear that's a popular one.
You know, that agentic finance, you joke, but we actually have to monitor that carefully, and we have gotten abilities that we're not so sure about.
So, everything that gets submitted here, we do review first.
We've gotten critiqued from the open source maxis that we choose what to publish on our repo.
Yeah.
We do.
Good for you.
For safety.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But the basic function that Todd and I are talking about, which is just, let's say, an expert answerer, that's a very simple version.
I mean, that's the easiest of all functions.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, we can, I'll put one on.
Let's see.
Mike, I remember when I had good hair like Jesse.
You know?
Hey, welcome to Open Home, like this voice.
Assign it to any personality.
All right, I think I got a good one here.
Let's see.
You know, I always, people always ask, you know, can we try it?
Can we try it?
You're going to try it right now.
But I'm like, there's so many agents, there's so many different AIs that you can talk to, and the experience is so different.
Yeah.
So, I got to pick good ones.
Well, see, I would also say we can connect it to any LLM.
Can you connect it to a local, like an OpenAI compatible local network IP address API just on your local network?
Oh, actually, that's another really good question.
Yeah, I mean, you can.
So, basically, you can web socket stream the audio.
We call it the hot mic to.
To any agent or any LLM.
Well, I just mean the LLM because, for example, in my setup, I just run Quinn 35122B and I run like 27B distilled on another workstation that's got a really good GPU that's fast.
But if I want your speaker to use that LLM on that other system and then get the answer back, can it do that?
Yeah, yeah, you can.
So the ability editor can one shot, you can vibe code it.
It's very easy to do.
Okay.
So the answer is yes.
This is my open home running OpenClaw that's connected to my DevKit signups.
So that's what you're seeing.
28 second clip.
How are the DevKit signups?
83 new DMs.
I texted you a few users who have surprisingly active GitHub repos.
Any good ones?
12 are OpenClaw builders.
Next steps?
Should I reply with the Discord link?
Yeah, go for it.
Done.
Cool if I turn on your light.
The AGI Nervous System Approach00:16:08
It's getting dark.
Yeah.
By the way, I think I should tell you what I just found out about the OpenAI deal.
How are the DevKit signups?
That's great.
Wow.
We saw Proactive.
I, you know, turned the lights on.
It knows I was tracking the OpenAI deal, so it keeps it conversational.
Wow.
It's connected to my CRM, it knows how many new signups since I last asked it.
You know, this is like AGI level future.
Yeah, and I noticed that in that voice, the TTS, the female voice you chose there, at one point she went into a very intimate mode there about like, there's a secret that I'm sharing.
Right.
That was really interesting, that emotional layer.
The emotional layer is huge.
We actually have promptable voices, so you can actually prompt in the Asian output if you wanted to whisper or yell or be more aggressive.
I'll show you another demo from one of our developer community builders.
So, this is a.
So, this woman says, less than 24 hours after unboxing my dev kit, built a smart baby monitor that clones the mother's voice, detects crying, classifies intensities, plays soothing speech in the mom's voice.
This is like a little bit black mirror, but people love it.
Transcribes the entire night and just delivers a spoken morning summary.
You know, I won't play the whole thing, but.
Hey there.
It looks like your little one had a somewhat restless night with a total of 24 events over eight hours.
So, this will tell you how many times he woke up and cried.
60,000 views on this one.
And she's even adjusted it now that it's adaptive soothing.
So, it tracks different interventions for different times of night, you know, white noise or lullabies or the mom's voice.
And we'll actually see which was the most effective at getting the baby to go to sleep.
So, unlike a traditional baby monitor or white noise machine, it has a feedback loop because it can keep crying.
That's crazy.
You know, that leads me to a very important question.
About family and children.
I presume that AI assistance could actually shape worldviews over time, Jesse.
So, how should parents think about AI voice systems interacting with their kids?
Education and safety are big aspects of AI.
And the way I see it is screens are kind of toxic.
You know, the blue lights shining in your eyes, they hijack your dopamine system, the notifications hit you.
So, I see AI as a more nervous system friendly approach.
Type of human computer interaction, it's talking, it's voice, it's human like, it's much more natural.
You still have to be mindful of it.
But people think AI goes in this direction of more technology embedded.
I actually see the other way.
AI has the prospect to skim your emails and tell you the important ones, cut out notifications and only tell you if it's your mom or someone that matters to you calling.
You don't have to have a screen that's shining blue light in your eyes at 2 a.m. in the morning and keeping you awake and messing up your.
circadian rhythm.
I don't really buy the argument that AI is more technologically worse for a nervous system.
I think it's better.
And I agree with you.
Also, I'm not a big fan of augmented reality.
I don't think people are going to walk around with giant goggles on their face all the time.
And it's something that you have to put on and turn on and recharge.
Forget it.
The voice is something that we have naturally.
I mean, it's just there.
And the best AI is the AI that you don't see.
It's out of your way, but it's still doing useful things without you having to.
And that's the future.
That's the future.
And I think this is where people get AGI confused.
People think AGI is like, oh, I'm going to prompt my way to this cool app and it can build it and it's amazing.
That's coding AI.
AGI, if it's truly general intelligence, we need an AI that is like a human that can book flights for you, check your calendar for you, skim your emails, do tasks, remind you of things, be proactive, not need to be prompted all the time.
It's never going to be AGI if you have to prompt it.
That does not feel very futuristic to me.
It's a type of coding.
Well, Jesse, does AI risk replacing human intuition, discernment, or even a connection to a higher power, God?
What do you think?
I can see it going there, man.
I mean, we're starting to become, you know, a nation full of likable mullet wearers.
And so, I mean, if AI is doing all of the thinking for us, you know, what point in time do we just lose our spin on the ball?
Todd, you wish you had a mullet after what happened to your hair.
No kidding.
You have a mullet wig.
Why don't you put it on?
No, I'm kidding.
I'm just joking.
We joke around here, Jesse, but I understand you've got to go.
I know.
We're respectful of your time.
Is there anything you want to add here just before we wrap this up?
Well, I'm curious about what you guys have seen in the future of AGI, ambient AI, AI voice.
You guys are obviously plugged in.
I mean, I've talked a lot about my takes, but hearing me talk and seeing these demos, what's your view on the future of AI?
Well, first of all, let me give out your website, openhome.com, for people wondering what your site is.
And you're the founder of it.
And I would say, I think you're sitting on a huge opportunity to actually mass produce these that come with a default agent for people to buy these and just run them in default mode, which can attach to a built in small LLM or even an uncensored, like an obliterated LLM.
I think that would be very popular.
Or like some of the LLMs that My company has worked on that are pro natural medicine and pro human liberty and things like that.
So, I think there's a very strong future for actually varieties of your kind of smart speaker.
If somebody wants a natural medicine smart speaker and to put it in their acupuncture clinic so that their patients can talk to it, boom, huge market right there.
Yeah, 100%.
The customization is so important.
And Todd, what about you?
What do you think this goes?
You know, I am always concerned about AI surveillance and the fact that this can be local and that I can control that.
And that is a question.
Where's my question here?
Oh, what does a fully sovereign smart home look like in practical terms?
And can open home operate without sending your data to big tech servers?
That's a good question.
We do, the best LLM right now is Claude.
And Claude is useful for a lot of things.
And it's the go to for developers.
Yeah.
If you run it fully local without the big tech servers, I will say it is not as good.
The 3B and 7B models, they're not where Claude is yet.
Yeah.
So it can fully operate locally.
You turn the lights, ask the questions, conversation, fully local, end to end, no big tech.
It can do it, but it is not as good.
But I also think, Jesse, that's going to rapidly change over the next couple of years where the local models will become extremely capable.
For example, I mean, DeepSeq version 4 Lite is rumored to be maybe releasing one of these days.
It's already late, but that could be something that I know that model wouldn't fit in your device, but it could run locally and your device could talk to it on a local device.
Well, it can.
And you can, and you know, local is becoming hybrid too with local.
Servers that you control yourself to, you know, can it run on your Mac Studio and then you port into it?
Totally.
To me, that counts as local as long as it's just not going to some other service somewhere else.
But, Jesse, this is really fascinating.
I love what you're doing.
And Todd and I are both very grateful that you spent time with us today.
So, thank you so much for all that you're doing.
We look forward to hearing updates for that.
Last plug if you or your viewers want a free speaker, dev.openhome.com.
That's the dev link, dev.openhome.com.
We've shipped hundreds already, thousands more are shipping.
They're free, application based, best ideas win.
You guys are both going to get them, and hopefully some of your viewers will too.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Dev.openhome.com.
Okay.
Be careful what you ask for because we have an audience that is really into this stuff.
I know you got a big and dedicated audience, so I'm ready for the wave.
Okay.
Hey, Jesse, last question for me Are there any devices you'd counsel us to avoid?
I don't want to name names, but Amazon, Google Home, and Apple have all had their own critiques.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, in fairness, I will say Apple is probably the most secure of the three.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Okay.
All right.
Well, Jesse, thank you so much for your time.
We look forward to hearing from you.
We'll be in touch about acquiring one of your devices.
And I'll tell you what, we'll make it a regular here on the show.
Absolutely.
You rock, Jesse.
Great guest.
You guys are awesome.
See ya.
You too.
Take care.
Cheers.
All right.
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All right, welcome back everybody to the after party segment of today's show.
Todd, hey, wow, what a great guest, huh?
What a great guest.
What a great guest.
I loved his energy and, you know, and I loved his hair, Mike.
You know, he just, when he got out that close up and stuff, you know, I have hair envy right now.
So you have hair envy?
I have hair envy right now.
Oh, Lord.
Yeah, he's got some, he's got some vertical stacks on the hair going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, aside from the hair, I mean, he's also, you know, I love the way a lot of the minds of these young innovators are working.
They're, you know, they're building the Star Trek future right in front of us.
With a privacy first mindset.
Yes, yes.
Now, he said, of course, connecting it to Claude is currently the best function, which is understandable.
Claude, you know, Anthropic, they really do have the most advanced, you know, Opus 4.6 right now.
But that's going to change.
That can change very quickly.
Quickly, oh, yeah, China can release new models, you know, a deep seek for or GLM or whatever.
Or, uh, heck, Google released Gemma 4, although it's not that great, in my opinion.
But new models can come out at any given day to power those kinds of devices, yeah.
And in the meantime, I'm wondering if you can, you know, I know you turn these on and then they're ambient and they're listening and they're observing.
And, um, I wonder though, the only thing that just freaks me out about this stuff is like, I'm a private dude, and it's like.
Can I just tell it to shut down and will it really shut down?
Like C3PO?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
That could be built in.
And you can also just pull the plug.
I mean, you can pull the power.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I agree with you.
I want to be able to turn it off.
I don't want it listening through my dinner and it's building a profile.
This guy eats like a slob.
He's making lip smacking sounds.
Right.
I'm just enjoying a dinner here.
And I mean, I see the applications like, you know, I have a 10 month old grandson now.
And, you know, I was, as he was talking about the guy that coded, you know, the baby monitor and stuff and all that it's doing and going to that great level of detail that there were 28 incidents or however many it was.
And there's just part of me that is like, wow.
I mean, what might this do to truly humanity to where it just becomes such an easy button to where like, Parenting, like when I was raising my girls, you know, we actually got our asses up in the middle of the night and cared for them, you know, rocked them and stuff.
Well, you bring up a really interesting point.
I think there was a Black Mirror episode about this where children, or there was a movie or something, but no, it was Black Mirror.
Children will have toys that become their best friends because the toy will be, I mean, you know how we've seen studies of AI models today used by adults.
That really turned people into narcissists because the AI model is telling you how great you are and how all your ideas are awesome.
It's built into the model.
And that feedback loop in a non discerning human can become very self destructive.
Yeah, it really can.
I mean, and the one that ultimately we will create for DTV Man, DTV Man will say, What a dumbass idea, Todd.
It's going to be a different feedback loop.
Yeah, yeah, true.
But the inverse of this, I found that because I work with Claude Code every day and I work with a lot of AI development and I've found that I've been too polite to the AI because I'm genuinely a polite person.
So the way I speak to people is I will say please and I will say thank you.
Turns out that is counterproductive when you're talking to AI.
And what I've found is sometimes, this is not the way I talk to people, but sometimes you have to tell the AI, stop being stupid.
You made a horrible mistake.
You need to fix this bug.
My job depends on it.
And stuff like that.
You have to actually get really harsh with the AI.
And then it starts apologizing.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I should have said this earlier.
I overlooked this and I didn't mean to, you know, dump the entire database table or whatever.
Drop table is a bad thing, you know, things like that.
So you actually have to talk harshly to AI right now sometimes to get what you need.
And I don't, that's not a natural thing because I wouldn't, I wouldn't like yell at robots.
No.
What would be the point?
Bad robot.
You're the tip of the spear with all of this, Mike.
So, you know, we're all learning through you.
You know, just with your experiences and stuff.
And which leads me, Mike, to, if I may, the lightning round.
Are you up for this?
Oh, you have a lightning round for me today?
I have a lightning round with four questions, and I just want a yes or no answer.
And then I have subsequent, you know, final rapid fire questions, just one sentence answers.
And I think the viewers will enjoy this.
Okay.
Wait, wait.
Hold on a second.
Let me just clarify the rules.
Yeah.
Given that it's a lightning round.
So there are four questions.
I have to answer yes or no.
And is there a time limit?
No, I won't give you any time.
Knowing you, it'll take less than a second.
Okay.
That's fine.
Rapid Fire Future App Questions00:07:39
But does this have anything to do with the NAND gates that I did?
I did a podcast on the not and Boolean logic gates discovery.
Okay.
Yeah.
No, no.
I haven't listened to that yet.
Okay.
I know that I likely won't understand it when I do.
So I'm not going to answer.
You can learn.
I mean, it's, but that's a profound mathematical discovery that's mind blowing.
I have that.
That is going to be on my next walk that I do.
Okay.
All right.
The NAND gates.
Don't forget about the NAND gates.
Okay.
I'm ready for your ride around.
All right.
Voice AI could become the most powerful control layer in history.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
The future isn't apps, it's AI agents talking to each other.
Well, the future of what?
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's not yes, no.
The future isn't apps.
So it's not like we're.
It's not apps.
That's correct.
The future is not apps.
That's correct.
It's going to be AI agents talking to each other.
Well, and talking to us.
Right.
Yeah.
Good point.
All right.
If you don't control your AI, someone else will.
Yes.
And the last one of this round is there is real risk of AI assistants becoming AI overlords.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, the rapid fire of Questions for Mike.
One sentence answer.
Wait, wait.
I thought that was, I thought we did the rapid fire.
No, no.
Those were yes, no.
We're just warming up here.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
You know, all right.
This one you may have to think about, but I thought this was good.
Biggest AI lie that people believe that AI is a bubble and that it can't get any more intelligent by scaling.
Ooh, I like that.
I like that.
Most important step related to AI that people should take this year. Is simply gaining the skill set of how to interact with it.
Okay.
Become a prompt engineer?
Yeah.
Okay.
Timeline for mass adoption of voice AI 18 months after a consumer grade device like the one that we were talking about today with our guest becomes widely available.
So within 18 months, it'll be everywhere.
And I did like your feedback that they should highly consider a consumer product instead of just for the devs.
I imagine that.
Jesse is simply just, I mean, this is my guess.
He's just looking to be acquired.
Yeah.
And that's cool.
Another company, and then they would do all the manufacturing.
You're like Samsung.
Understood.
Yeah.
That's good.
Or whoever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good luck with that, Jesse.
And I'm serious.
Yeah.
He'll probably, you know, Jesse probably get a few hundred million dollars.
And exactly.
You know, that's a success.
And then he can go on and do some other project.
But absolutely.
He himself, his company probably can't, you know, doesn't have the infrastructure to mass.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Okay, just two more.
One AI tool everyone should start using today.
Well, that would probably be Replit.
Replit.com is the easiest way for people to get started using AI to do useful things.
Spell it R E P L I T. It.com.
Replit.com.
Very good.
So that's a rabbit hole that we should all go down and at least become familiar with it.
So thank you.
And the last question, Mike.
Your smart home is already listening.
So, who owns the data?
Well, it's the company that it comes from.
But remember that there's always a backdoor to the government.
So, what government does is the same thing they did with Facebook, excuse me, or Google or anybody.
Government comes to Facebook and says, look, you're going to have a backdoor where we can query anything we want and monitor everybody and hoover up all the data, or we're going to find a reason to prosecute you through the DOJ.
And Facebook says, oh, sure, here's your back door.
Boom.
It's every major, all of them, every major provider has a back door.
Remember what France did to the founder of Telegram?
They kidnapped him for months because they wanted a back door in a Telegram.
Right, right.
Oh, I have a bonus one, Mike.
Yeah.
Since today that we're recording is April 14th.
Here's the question How much does it suck tomorrow if you don't operate a UNA?
It sucks big time.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Yeah, that's right.
This is tax season for everybody.
Yes.
And probably why I don't want to publish this episode tomorrow is people are going to be busy doing taxes.
Yeah, that's true.
Good point.
Yeah.
It's a really good point.
Let it be a reminder that if you don't yet have a UNA, this is the time to get it before the end of the year rush comes up, which is what happened a few months ago.
Yeah.
And everybody wanted one in the same year.
December was nuts.
December was nuts.
But this last couple of weeks has been equally nuts in that I've had really many people.
Yeah, many people who have procrastinated and they are now the tax bill is doeth.
And I talked to one guy yesterday and he was like, okay, I'm just done.
I'm done.
I'm getting one.
I'm getting one.
You know, I got to write this check.
I'm done.
If there's a way to be able to help me keep more of what I earn, let's just do it.
You know, so yeah, very insightful.
Well, I want to ask you some more questions about that here coming up, but without naming names, there was a person I introduced to you.
Has that conversation continued?
It hasn't continued.
We connected through Telegram.
Yeah.
But, you know, we haven't had a follow up conversation.
Okay.
Well, that person's a very busy person.
Yeah, that's exactly.
That's probably the case.
Exactly.
I'm here at the ready because that's a very important conversation to have.
Well, that person is a very wealthy person.
Who is doing estate planning and wondering how to transfer wealth to their children?
Roger me, yep.
And that person who we won't name has a lot of metal.
Yes.
And I don't mean like the Terminator, I mean other kinds of metal.
So you want to go ahead and tell us about that while we're on the topic?
Let me bring up your website, my575.e.com, but give us the rundown real quick.
Yeah.
As I always share with people, I make the, Website accessible for you to be able to go into your name and email and then just get to the next page where there's a 90 minute interview of me interviewing the subject matter expert on this, Dennis Gray.
And just download the PDF, it's a training guide that goes along with the interview, and that'll get you 90% of the way there.
And if you're a W 2 earner, 1099 earner, if you operate an LLC, if you own property, if you trade in crypto, if you acquire precious metals, if you store precious metals, And if you have children, you know, and you want to think about estate planning, where, you know, when Nelson Rockefeller coined the phrase own nothing, control everything, he was talking about entities like this, lawful entities like these.
So I always tell people, hey, go get educated on the website.
Functional Strength and Estate Planning00:04:07
And you know what?
If you want to know more or you want to have a conversation with me, I make it very easy to book a consultation with me.
It is $150.
And in my case, I've shared many times, it's not for the $150.
It's just when I don't charge anything, people don't show up.
Everybody who moves forward with a UNA after a consultation, they just take that off of the investment of the UNA.
So why not?
You know, reach out to the consultation.
Yeah, that's perfect.
And I know that your partner, Dennis Gray, has helped hundreds of people do this.
But does Dennis Gray know that with the right hair dye, he could become Dennis Brown?
Have you made him aware of that?
I may consider becoming Todd Bald and just shave this crap off and just say, suffer through me.
Kojak for three months.
Well, be careful with that too because look at Mark Andreessen.
He shaved and it looks like an egghead.
Oh, you know, you want to do a topographical assay of your skull before you shave to make sure there's no weird geometry going on there.
Good boy.
I think next week when we do this, I'm just going to wear a hat, Mike.
Screw it.
Bring them all back.
Bring them all back.
You look a little casual today.
So I'm, you know, I'm going to wear my hat that says no, not today on it.
That's my favorite hat.
You know what happened to me?
You know why I'm not wearing my jacket today?
Tell me.
Well, and I'm going to plug something that we're doing here at rangerdeals.com.
But I started doing these therapeutic peptides a year ago, and it allowed me to start working out again.
Oh, you're getting too big?
I'm getting my shoulders are getting too big for the freaking jacket.
I'm not kidding.
That's amazing.
It is.
It's like I have, and here it is rangerdeals.com.
If you scroll down here, limit.
Limitless peptides.
I've been taking the BPC 157, which is an intranasal spray.
Yeah.
And I also take it orally.
And that healed, or I should say, it activated my body to heal a lot of old injuries, like martial arts injuries.
Yep.
Too much Brazilian jujitsu and Krav Maga, you know, and I had some scar tissue in my back.
And this healed it to where I could start working out.
I am now 13 months into kettlebells training in my forest, jogging in kettlebells.
And I have actually put on so much physical muscle mass, I can't wear my freaking jacket now.
It's uncomfortable.
Yeah.
So I'm going to have to get another jacket.
Yeah, I was going to say.
I know you never get a new pair of shoes, but maybe it's true.
I'm going to have to get a new jacket.
Because you're not working out your toes.
They aren't getting too big for your shoes.
Exactly.
I'm not working out my toes.
Totally swim, too.
I mean, that's amazing.
That's an amazing testimony to the fact that that works.
It's working and it's so great.
I mean, it's functional because, you know, I live on a ranch and I have all these animals.
I have goats and I have chickens and dogs and donkeys.
And I'm, you know, one of the things I do frequently is I have to move around these bags of grain, like 50 pound bags.
You throw them over your shoulder, move them around, open them up, empty them out.
I'm feeding animals or I'm bringing hay bales out.
You know, I'm lifting hay bales, this and that.
And what I've noticed over the last 13 months since I've been doing this workout.
Is just my ranch functional strength is so much greater that it makes these tasks easier and far less injury prone.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
I was on Instagram.
You know, I have a famous Instagram dog, Zammy Pup.
That's right.
The world's largest children's therapy dog.
And so I go there every once in a while.
And sometimes you go down a rabbit hole.
Ranch Life and Therapy Dogs00:03:04
And I had this video of this lady who was saying, Do you know the most lovable, Animal on my ranch.
What would you say, Mike?
And it's not a dog.
She said her donkey.
Oh, it's a pig.
It's got to be a pig.
No, her donkey.
Donkeys are very lovable, that they just want to be with you and hang with you.
Well, hers did.
She had her donkey was just always by her side and putting her, you know, like literally the donkey's head on the lap.
And she was just telling the story that this is the most lovable.
I never knew.
I thought I asked you.
I've not had that experience with donkeys.
Okay.
Then we adopted our donkeys after they had been.
Raised by somebody else, I would imagine she raised her donkey.
Probably that's right, you know, maybe bottle fed the donkey or something like that.
Yeah, that would make a difference.
That makes sense.
Yeah, that was kind of cool.
That's very cool.
No, I, um, you know, I have goats too.
Yes, and we also adopted a couple of male goats relatively recently to save them from being butchered.
Okay, yeah, and um, so male goats and they have their horns.
Too, by the way, they haven't been dehorned.
Okay.
And male goats are troublemakers galore.
Are they really?
Oh my God.
They get into everything.
Wow.
And they will destroy every tree, everything you're trying to plant.
You know, they'll eat it or rub their horns on it and rub it off.
Oh my gosh.
What happened last week is that I had an upside down pond, like a large pond container, like a black pond liner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That I had propped up.
I had propped up on, it was on like a.
What do you call it?
Like a sawhorse.
Okay.
And because I didn't want it to collect rain and I also didn't want to cover the grass completely.
So I had it propped up.
And when you know, one of my goats got underneath this thing and it pushed the sawhorse out and it trapped itself under the freaking pond.
And I couldn't find this goat.
It's like, where is this freaking goat?
And this goat should be easy to find because it's white.
Yeah.
And then the other goats are screaming and yelling, where's the goat?
You know, they call for each other.
And we're all looking around.
It's like, what the hell?
This goat, it's like sleight of hand magic, like you do, the great vanishing goat, you know?
And fortunately, I just had to start walking in a spiral.
Like, where could a goat be hiding?
In everything, I started opening and turning over.
Sure enough, I turn over this pond liner, freaking goat jumps out.
It's better than a rabbit out of a magic hat.
I'm amazed that the goat didn't kind of go crazy and just start trying to, you know, hit its head up against the wall.
Yeah, you would think that it, because I was calling for the goat too.
Yeah.
It was just silent.
It didn't say anything.
You would think it would want out and it would, it would be like knocking the thing around.
Building Self-Reliance Solutions00:06:15
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe it was vibe coating under there and it just wanted to be left alone.
I tell you what.
Goats are not very smart animals.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
But it sounds to me like it'd be like if a raccoon had horns, you know?
I think raccoons are smarter than goats.
Yeah.
It was dumber than they are.
Yeah.
Because I think a raccoon would know to try to get out.
But the goat was nope.
If I had just left that thing there, I mean, it would have died.
If I hadn't looked for it, you know?
And also, that's dangerous in the summer months because it could get very hot.
Under a black pot, you know, very quickly, right?
So, fortunately, that didn't happen in the summer.
Wow.
But anyway, I did, I saved the life of a troublesome goat.
You have a heart of gold, Mike.
Well, I don't want them to suffer in there, you know, but anyway.
So, donkeys, goats, dogs, whatever, we got off on a tangent from the peptides and everything.
Let me just mention rangerdeals.com is where people, you can find the, we have, The peptides right here, and some of the other guests we've interviewed, like above phone, you know, and the red light devices.
And then your site, Todd, is here, my575e.com.
All right.
I just want to say one last thing about the UNAs don't underestimate playing long ball.
And if you own precious metals, you really need to understand how these can operate with your.
I don't know what to say, Mike.
I can't say a lot.
It's just these are pretty magical, they'll help you keep way more of what you earn.
Oh, yeah.
So, yeah.
Especially if you're going to liquidate any metal and try to turn it into cash.
What happened to Todd?
We lost Todd.
Oh, his bandwidth has been on the fritz today.
Roll Avatar.
Let's roll it again until Todd comes back.
Hello, Mike.
I am thrilled to be here and I am ready to launch another amazing episode of Digital Survivor TV.
But first, I wanted to tell you something that you might find a bit surprising.
So it turns out I'm not actually Todd, I'm Todd's digital avatar.
And my name is Avatar.
And if you don't mind, I will just take over so that Todd can work on his food for us.
You okay with that?
All right, so we have this is the solution.
If Todd cuts out, we just play Avatar.
How about that?
All right, he'll come back.
Folks, this has been, by the way, I thought an amazing interview with our guest, Jesse.
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There's never been a more important time because, as we all know, the world is being burned down right now.
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That whole scene there is currently shut down, which means that now more than ever, you need to.
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