Health Ranger - Mike Adams - Recent Interview Highlights (Part 2): Critical Conversations You Need to See

Dec. 1, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Recent Interview Highlights (Part 2): Critical Conversations You Need to See

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	I'm quite worried about AI.
	I think it's going to bring about changes far faster than we as humans have ever had a chance to adapt to technological change.
	So I think Elon is quite correct to be worried about it.
	I agree.
	You don't want to be second, though.
	So we have to invest in it.
	We have to do it with that.
	Isn't that true?
	What we know we can't have is the Bolsheviks running things as this new dawn breaks because we now know their business model is to set up authoritarian power structures and starve off or get rid of 95% of us as useless leaders.
	Working with essentially the FBI at the time to set up Hillary Clinton to be bribed.
	And the question I didn't ask you then, but it's been on my mind is why did you say yes?
	Well, this is where it gets really crazy.
	So first of all, I said yes because I'm a patriotic American.
	And when Uncle Sam asked me to do things to help him, I almost always have tried to oblige them.
	Never again.
	Never.
	We have too much history between us.
	But there's eight plot twists in the book.
	And one of them is, unbeknownst to them, I had been sent to investigate them.
	So if I had literally been sent to investigate the deep state.
	And so if you're sent to investigate a mafia, you have to kind of do some unsavory things.
	And eventually you're getting asked to do unsavory things that you're going along with and doing to because your job is to be inside the mafia.
	And if you read the book, you'll discover who was it.
	And the only reason I'm not prosecuted today or haven't been prosecuted since I came out with everything is I had actually been sent and been given immunity to penetrate the deep state and do whatever I, I was, the language in the document is I get extraordinary latitude under the laws of the United States.
	Extraordinary latitude, right?
	And did the U.S. Senate had to approve that?
	Was that?
	Senate Judiciary.
	And they showed you the letter, but you weren't allowed to have a copy.
	Correct.
	They showed me the letter.
	I've seen it.
	They have confirmed to other people that there's, they call such a letter an extraordinary latitude letter.
	It's normally written, if somebody comes from the Department of Agriculture to the Senate Judiciary, who really are the ultimate thing on corruption in America, if they come and they say, I'm a Department of Agriculture employer and there's something fishy going on, they get given a letter, an extraordinary latitude letter that says, so really it's so they can go into their office at the Department of Agriculture and steal a bunch of government documents and take it over to the Senate Judiciary.
	And they're not committing a felony because they've been, I was given this letter that or shown this letter that I was told had not been done since World War II and that it was to a civilian, not the federal employee.
	And it was a lifelong thing.
	I was commissioned by these senators who are still alive that now they're with, it's kind of funny.
	They wrote, I wish they had included in the letter in the movie the letter that they wrote back.
	They wrote back a letter saying the senators will neither confirm nor deny that there was such a meeting.
	And if there was a meeting, they will not confirm it or deny if they were there.
	And if there was a meeting and they were there, they will neither confirm nor deny if they gave a letter.
	It's the craziest letter.
	Okay, but so you saw this letter, but surely you must have realized at the time that they could disown you and claim they never wrote a letter.
	And there's no way you could prove that it's a very important thing.
	Too many people know about it, too many staffers.
	There's staffers who've confirmed the existence of this letter to reporters and such.
	I see.
	So I don't worry about that.
	And that would be a take back.
	As I told him, I asked them one question, and it's in the movie.
	When they asked me to do this, they said, and they let me read this extraordinary letter.
	They said, you're never going to see a letter like this again in all your life, Patrick.
	I read this letter and I said, no takebacks.
	And they said, no take back.
	So I would consider it a take back.
	No takebacks.
	That's all I had to.
	And then when they said no takebacks, I said, I thought for a few seconds, I said, gentlemen, I won't let you down.
	You're a high IQ individual pioneering in many areas of technology, including crypto with your former company, innovated a lot of things in that space.
	What do you make of the rollout of AI tech right now, which is machine cognition that's becoming increasingly capable and very low cost?
	The trend for cost reduction is remarkable, like 40x per year reduction in cognitive costs.
	What do you think this is going to do to our civilization?
	I think it's at risk of being extraordinarily dangerous.
	We certainly, the changes it's going to bring about are going to happen so quickly.
	It's far beyond the ability of our normal political processes to engage with it and shape it and us to discuss what.
	So, you know, for example, I don't think jobs as we know them are going to exist over the next 10 years.
	I feel so bad for youngsters I see getting out of college.
	I remember, and I'm sure it was the same for you.
	You know, senior year in college, you go over to the student hall and there's all these companies lining up for interviews.
	You sign up for four or five, you get four or five job offers.
	Everybody, it was the simplest thing in the world.
	Now kids get out of college or high school and they work for years for no money, praying for it.
	It's so tough.
	And so many jobs are going to be eliminated that I think people should be thinking, rethinking their life plans around that fact.
	People get out with a graphic arts degree.
	I kind of wish I was still running Overstock because you could AI 95% of the jobs and do better.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	We've incorporated AI augmentation in all our jobs.
	We haven't fired any people, but we've trained them all on AI.
	So almost all the research for our articles is, of course, AI conducted.
	AI does all the editing.
	AI does the citations, everything.
	We've been able to increase productivity by 10X.
	But my question for you about the economy, though, see, during the Trump administration here, and he's got three years or more, you know, more than three years remaining, right?
	So this ramp up of AI is going to hit right smack during his administration with pretty extraordinary economic consequences in terms of job replacements.
	We've already seen announcements from Amazon, some letters leaked that said they're going to replace ultimately 600,000 jobs with automation.
	That's robots, not just the agents on the software side.
	But we've also seen massive layoffs in companies like UPS, 48,000 this year, et cetera.
	And most of these companies are saying we're replacing people with AI because the investors like to hear that also.
	And then the stock goes up because they're like, oh, they're more efficient now, right?
	But what do you think this means for Trump in terms of the loss of human jobs?
	And GDP will fall because of the increased efficiency of machine cognition, producing more output for less pay, so to speak.
	I'm not sure GDP falls.
	Well, I don't mean in the aggregate, but maybe it's going to be, well, I think it's going to create a headwind for him that makes it harder for standard economic reporting to look good as more and more jobs get wiped out.
	There's a solution, and Milton Friedman laid it out in 1965, and it seems especially apt today.
	The solution to everything is you do two things together, and one of them is anathema to the right, and one of them is anathema to the left.
	But you do the two of them together, and something magic happens.
	You do a flat tax coupled to a UBI.
	And our current financial system is going to Chernobyl.
	Our current dollar, everything's going to Chernobyl.
	What they should be doing is designing this for the new world, a flat tax with a UBI.
	And the magic of that is you can reduce 68,000 pages of tax code and this huge Labyrinthian social safety net to you can largely reduce it to two numbers.
	Everyone gets $20,000 of UBI, and we're going to tax you at 20%.
	Capital gains, income, corporate income, or whatever.
	Two very simple numbers.
	Let you together, dial in any degree of progressivity you want, and you can reduce.
	You know we lose two percent of GDP just preparing our taxes.
	It's a $400 billion industry, so you can actually free up anyway, and then that's the right thing to have done anyway, and we ought to get that in place and introduce a second currency.
	So we run like Europe did when there was the EU and the French franc, for example, and everything was priced for a year or two in both currencies.
	If you were in France, something like that will come, and the new currency is designed on a on a sustainable platform, which is that your social safety net and your income taxes are a flat tax with a UBI and you actually you have to do the.
	There was all this argument for it earlier.
	Now you have to do it because the benefits that are going to be brought about by AI and automation are so enormous for the labor market there's no possible way we can contain with normal new rules.
	You have to share the benefits and you know the.
	The only way to do that is to have an UBI.
	You don't want a bunch of.
	You don't want the current social safety that we have government bureaucrats what are trying to fine-tune favored groups to get what they want.
	You want a nice flat Ubi and a nice flat tax.
	The rise of Ai threatens to destroy the middle class and to increase the chasm between the wealthy and the poor.
	To concentrate all financial resources in the hands of very few individuals.
	Um, flat tax, I think would be welcome, but why do?
	I would even argue, why do we need any federal income tax at the personal level?
	Because they're going to print money anyway, right?
	Yeah well, if they believe in this modern monetary theory yeah, that's my answer when I talk to the lefty believers of Mmt.
	If you believe this stuff, why do we have any tax exactly?
	But at the same time then, if you're going to offer a Ubi, that's meaningful, and i've also heard it described as a universal high income where you give people enough that they never have to work, they can pay rent, buy food, etc.
	And I i've also heard some maximalists from the Ai space argue that robots and Ai agents will produce so much abundance that the government will be able to give everybody a universal high income.
	But then my question is, why does the government need anybody around at all if you're just costing the government revenue and you're not paying taxes effectively because you're not working and contributing to Gdp.
	Well, I think you've put your finger on the mystery at the heart of what we've just experienced in this world.
	For the last five years, there is now a business model that has emerged where basically five percent of humanity can escape with all the learnings and benefits of 3000 years of civilization.
	They can escape with that and they don't need the other 95 and I don't think gdp even has to go down.
	But it takes ai and robotics and they're but to make that happen.
	They realize somewhere along the way you have to shift to an authoritarian world before then, because as you starve off those 95 percent of useless eaters, as you all hararely calls we've heard that yes yeah, that they can't do anything about it so you have to get to an authoritarian system, so then you can then hunger, games and them and starve them off and then five percent of the world inherits you know a great place with.
	So that's a real viable business model.
	In fact, I think that's what we just lived through.
	I think that's what 2020, 2020, the WF, that's what it's all about.
	By 2030, they want 95% of us gone, or they were going to get rid of 95% of us.
	And they know the whole world between AI and robotics can go on without us.
	So the trick is going to be have a political system that does not get captured by elites who are, of course, going to favor that outcome.
	And instead says, let's take these technological advances and construct things so that the people, that everybody gets a good uplift from it.
	I think you're spot on with that analysis, by the way.
	And I've spent a lot of time pondering this issue.
	But the assumption that everybody makes, or most people make, is that government wants people to be around and to stay alive.
	And I'd like your reaction to this argument.
	I've argued that government never valued humanity for humanity's sake, but rather valued the product of humans, which is the cognitive output and the labor output.
	And that was it.
	That's the only reason they ever valued human beings.
	And if both of those two outputs can be replaced by machines, then the value of humans goes to zero in the minds of the government, which is pretty much what you just said.
	Yes.
	Well, I'd say it really comes down to the most fundamental philosophical question at the core of the American experiment.
	The thing that is so unique that Frederick Douglass, I always like to quote how he pointed to certain phrases.
	And the big revolutionary thought in our founding is until now, until then, governments are rulers or the principles and humans are the agents.
	In other words, even when Machiavelli talks about a free state or a free city, he doesn't mean that the people are free.
	He means that the ruler does not report to someone else.
	It's just taken for granted that the ruler of any city-state, his ends are what matters.
	And the people, their existence is just as means for him to use as means to his end.
	The U.S. Constitution says we're going to have a system where we, the people, are the principles.
	Like when you sell your house, you're the principal.
	The guy you hire is the agent, the real estate agent.
	The principal is like the boss.
	So we're the principles, and we formed this government to just do some things we can't do ourselves.
	And there's a nice list of them in Article 1, Section 8, that we can't do as individuals or as states.
	And it's a real inversion for that corporation that we form to ever put itself in the position that it's thinking, well, what do I need you folks for?
	It's just like a plumber.
	That's why Milton Friedman critiqued that inauguration speech of John F. Kennedy, where he quoted the line about ask not what you can do, what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
	He says that would be rejected in any society, which I understood what freedom is about.
	Imagine you hired a plumber who came over and did shoddy work and asked for a lot of money for it, and you complained and your plumber said, Hey, don't ask what I can do for you.
	Ask what you can do for me.
	You'd say that plumber has got everything inverted in his mind.
	If the U.S. government is not inverted and our Constitution holds, the analysis you just described, where the government says, well, what do I need these citizens for can never occur because we're always the principles and we're making the decisions about the agent.
	However, that means we have to be very muscular on these philosophical concepts.
	And all that happened under Biden, I mean, it's been happening for decades under the assault from the left, but they've been chipping away at these very fundamental philosophical concepts.
	Look at, and you know, right down to look at how Joe Biden was just dying to sign U.S. sovereignty over to the WHO.
	He was trying to find some way to sign this.
	Really, we have never had an opportunity like this.
	The Secretary of HHS really has been a revolving door between government positions and big pharmaceutical industry.
	He's been fighting this battle for such a long time.
	I can guarantee you he's working as absolutely as hard and as fast as he possibly can to deep state people still within the ranks of the HHS that are dragging their heels.
	At the end of the day, Secretary Kennedy can put his pillow or his head on the pillow and know that he's done his absolute best.
	But I also know that it's a very, very frustrating time for him because there is so much to be done.
	And because of you and your research and CHD and a large group of other people, we know the pathway to get there.
	Exactly.
	We know it.
	And yet there's so much resistance against it.
	And it's hard to not reach the conclusion that there is real evil in this world that is running some of these corporations and some, especially former government agencies.
	It's hard to not arrive at that.
	I mean, how do you explain this reality?
	Evil is in the world.
	It has been in the world since the very beginning.
	Okay.
	I mean, you know, you have to look at post-Garden of Eden really to trace back to the origins of evil.
	I'm a Christian.
	I pull no punches about that.
	And I believe that evil will always, oh, this side of glory, evil will always be with us.
	And there are people that, you know, really could give a rip whether you're dead or alive.
	And, you know, you look at the agendas and you look at just sort of this worldwide industrial cabal that tried to take over during COVID-19.
	And you had, you know, these quote-unquote heroes and luminaries like Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins who were in the forefront that were looking at people like Donald Trump and saying, you know what, President Trump, people just die.
	No, actually, you poison them and you kill them.
	And it's about a population control agenda that goes beyond facile dollars and facile politics that, you know what, the powers that be really don't want you to be here.
	You just nailed it.
	They literally flat out could give a rip.
	You know, what?
	And in order to get to the magic number of 900 million people put out by the luminaries that are behind things like the World Economic Forum, they, I mean, you know, you just have to look at their literature.
	It's no big secret.
	But these people flat out do not care about children, do not care about suffering.
	You know, they're looking at their own utopian society that they think that they can make, you know, these bullcrap commercials that look at us and tell us by the year 2030, you will own nothing and you will love it.
	Like sometimes we're in this Star Trek next generation head trip.
	It is absolutely insane.
	You know, evil abounds in the world and the light shines, the darkness is cast out by the light.
	But you have to admit that the darkness was there as well.
	True, true.
	And it's just been commercialized through the vaccine industry.
	And then it has been codified through regulatory corruption and capture.
	And that is what brought us to this point.
	And that's why you and I both desperately want RFK Jr. to succeed.
	But let me ask you a sensitive question about Trump.
	Yeah.
	Trump's, you know, he's routinely, he's doing deals with big pharma.
	He just launched Trump RX.
	It's like, okay, Trump's going to be in the prescription drug business.
	That's not what I wanted to see.
	And I think most of our audience understands that at least we believe that many of these companies like Pfizer need to be investigated for possible criminal prosecution.
	That's what I believe.
	That's what our audience believes.
	How do we square the circle on this where, you know, here's Trump, who loves Pfizer, loves Eli Lilly, loves Novo Nordisk.
	You know, he's just announced discounts on the GLP1 through his Trump RX program.
	And standing next to him is RFK Jr., who must be, in his mind, he must be going, oh my God, how long can I stand this?
	At least I'm imagining that.
	I don't know how he does it, honestly.
	I could not stay silent, but that's why they don't invite me to the Oval Office.
	You know, it's there have been so many, I'm sure, cringeworthy moments.
	I mean, basically, standing in the Oval Office with Albert Borla right there, I mean, like two paces away from him, you know, there's a reason why they wouldn't have let me in the Oval Office at that particular moment.
	And, you know, all of these vaccine manufacturers are basically serial felons anyway.
	I mean, they've committed crimes against humanity.
	You look at Merck, you look at Pfizer, you look at Glasso SmithKline.
	You know, you'd ask a mainstream AI program how many billions of dollars these companies have paid out because they flat out lied.
	They absolutely flat out lied because they care more about the shareholder and the bottom line and lining their own pockets.
	So, you know, rest assured, RFK Jr. is doing everything that he can do, but he also counts on us of being the person, the people on the outside that are storming in the Bastille that are the ones that are continuing to put up the pressure, continuing to, you know, basically say, no, that's absolutely wrong.
	You know, I'm not a fan of big pharma.
	You know, I don't think that you can be selective and say, oh, well, maybe they lied about Viox, but I'm sure that the MMR is fine.
	You know, you cannot do that.
	You cannot do that in the same breath.
	We put out our AI engine to help people be able to have stronger advocacy on these issues.
	So if you're talking to a family member and they say, well, what are your sources?
	Why do you say it's dangerous?
	They need to go to our AI engine.
	And our main engine, by the way, is at brightu.ai.
	I'll have our editor put it on the screen.
	And it's also free.
	It's also non-commercial.
	But Brian, the thing that we found in building this AI engine is that the most difficult thing to overcome in the base models was the pro-pharma bias.
	It took us two years to figure out a way to do that.
	And we failed about 50 times because every time we would train a model using standard training techniques and then you would ask it about vaccines, it would say, well, vaccines have saved millions of lives and they're tested and they're certified.
	And all this garbage would come out.
	Took us two years to figure out how to get the bias out of the models.
	And I believe we're the only model that has that bias out of it.
	And again, some of it's due to you and CHD and your work that we heavily, heavily trained on, plus Alliance for Natural Health USA, Sayer G's website, Dr. Mercola's website, our website, millions and millions and millions of pages that we ultimately use to be able to overcome it.
	But just like CHD is never going to be invited to write a column for the New York Times, we're never going to be invited to go to a tech conference held by big tech.
	They don't want the world to know that we exist.
	Absolutely.
	We create these infrastructures on our own so we can absolutely get the word out.
	We're creating alternative structures because it really, no, you can't use a standard AI framework in order to get the truth about vaccines.
	They will quote a AstroTurf CDC publication that talks about how in the 20th century, vaccines saved over a million lives.
	And when you pull that back, you look at diseases that have basically been on decline since the early 19th century, like diphtheria.
	I mean, they quote a million lives saved by vaccines.
	Out of that million, over 700,000 are for diphtheria alone, a disease that basically can be treated by standard antibiotics.
	I don't want to go down the antibiotic trail, but it's treated by standard antibiotics and natural remedies.
	Yeah, nutrition.
	And that hasn't really been around since we were all daily exposed to horse manure.
	I live in a small town.
	I'm still not exposed to horse manure every day.
	Well, you're in Texas.
	We could remedy that.
	I do.
	It's not the smell that I mind.
	It's just whatever.
	It just happened to have my vehicle and drive seven minutes away down to my office, and it's all good.
	Well, you spoke about the depopulation agenda, and it's very clear that as vaccines are engineered today, they achieve that through multiple vectors, infertility, spontaneous abortions, and then, of course, well, early death.
	Now, I encountered a U.S. Treasury document that talked about the financial benefits of accelerated deaths of the American people.
	And they were touting $11 trillion in long-term savings by moving up the early deaths to be even earlier.
	How much are you aware of this idea that a lot of Western governments that are on the verge of financial insolvency, they equate early deaths with shoring up their books, so to speak?
	We are in a massive campaign to depopulate these countries, depopulate the earth.
	I mean, when you look at all of the different things afoot, you know, assisted suicide on a whim, the whole, let's mutilate your child's body so they can never reproduce.
	I mean, if you don't, if you think there's not an anti-reproductive agenda behind that, think again.
	I mean, let's just do basic biology on the human body and see what it takes in order to trans a kid.
	You know, and then you look at the vaccine market getting younger and younger.
	And, you know, it used to be that pregnancy was sacred, but now pregnant women are pincushions.
	You know, they can get upwards to eight needle sticks during the term of the pregnancy, you know, and generally, except for the RSV, at any trimester of pregnancy.
	And we know that leads to developmental delays and disabilities.
	Those children generally do not reproduce.
	It leads to early death.
	Those, you know, obviously lack of reproductive capability.
	And it leads to stillbirth and spontaneous abortion.
	So, yeah, there is everything that we see as these miracle interventions of modern medicine are really rewound the other way.
	You know, we, you know, you peel back the veneer and they're looking at decreasing long-term survival and decreasing fertility.
	And in the aftermath of the COVID years, a lot more research has come out that appears to be conclusive to any reasonable person that the COVID jabs caused a lot of early deaths and a lot of disabilities, millions of people disabled, according to researchers like Ed Dowd and so on.
	In your view, what is the best evidence that exists today or the best studies that point to the human cost of either deaths or disabilities or injuries following the COVID jabs?
	There is a sort of a worldwide study, and this was unfortunately only from countries that participated, you know, that you were able to get this data.
	But a study done by Denise Rancourt that looked at the population-wide mortality due to the COVID shot.
	And this is not a worldwide snapshot.
	I think it's much, much larger than this.
	But just in the countries that participated, a handful of countries that participated, their estimate of the mortality due to the COVID shot was 17 million individuals, okay?
	With over, you know, all would that be projected to the world population?
	You're easily talking about over 100 million individuals that were terminated due to the COVID jab.
	And, you know, nobody takes a pass on these.
	Nobody takes a pass on these.
	I'm even looking at family members who were deceived and got the COVID jab and looking at primarily, you know, in my lineage, the disease is uris cardiac.
	Easily, you know, my family members don't get cancer, but we, you know, we have the quintessential cardiac genes.
	And to see individuals that are so young, even in my own family, having cardiac problems, having myocarditis, pericarditis, both together, and then looking at their long-term survivability, getting less and less and less.
	The long story short is that Christianity became a religion about confessing and believing rather than following and obeying the commandments of Jesus.
	And so we think a true Christian religion should be predicated solely and singularly on the teachings of the Master.
	The purpose of life is to develop our characters and to live more like Jesus.
	And that is what Jesus taught us.
	Judge and you will be judged.
	Forgive and you will be forgiven.
	Repent and God forgives you.
	Love your neighbor as yourself.
	Love God with all your heart.
	And this fulfills the entire law.
	And to carry that out through your actions, not just your words.
	The Nazarenes did not teach animal sacrifice.
	They believed in baptism, but not killing animals as an appeasement to God.
	Can you please explain, because you have said this so eloquently in your podcast, the Jesus Way, can you explain why animal sacrifice is a violation of the core teachings of God and Christ?
	Yeah, in every conceivable way it is.
	And we had a podcast guest the other day talking about this, how blood sacrifice, animal sacrifice, is practiced in every single form of Satanism or occultism on earth.
	In history, it is one of the primary ways to increase on the negative polarity, is to take away life and use the blood as some kind of ritual to enhance oneself.
	And so right away, if we're saying that the supreme, omnibenevolent Lord of the universe needs exactly what Satan needs, I think we're off track a little bit.
	But then when you unpack the Hebrew Bible, you get these conflicting narratives.
	And really, when you study the history of Judaism, one of the cool topics that you often bump into is this whole idea of the priests versus the prophets, that the Old Testament is really like a Jedi versus Sith story.
	And you have to read through the lines because if you're enforcing this framework of the Bible's in Aaron imperfect, it's all written by God, you will absolutely not see it.
	But when you're willing to question the narrative and say, wait, are there conflicting, competing narratives here?
	And you're like, oh, of course there are.
	All through the whole Old Testament, you've got the priestly source texts like Leviticus and so forth commanding 613 purity laws and tons of animal sacrifice.
	And then you have later the prophets just like angrily condemning animal sacrifice.
	Even Jeremiah, who's one of the prophets Jesus is compared to by people when he asks, some say you're the prophet Jeremiah reincarnated, right?
	Jeremiah was the most anti-sacrifice prophet.
	And this kid was like 19, by the way, when he wrote his prophecies and we have in the book of Jeremiah.
	Absolute spiritual badass.
	But he said, Jeremiah 7, 21, he's speaking for God, God says, I did not command you animal sacrifices when I brought you out from Egypt through Moses, but this is what I commanded you.
	Obey my word, be my people, and I will be your God.
	You know, love justice, walk humbly, love mercy.
	This is the desire of God.
	I desire mercy, not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings, Hosea 6, 6.
	And all through the Old Testament, you do not delight in sacrifice, or else I would give it.
	It's like over and over again, you get this unequivocal no to sacrifice, yes to righteousness.
	And so, Christ, here's where Christians get hung up is that they've been given this, they've been sort of given this narrative that they believe that, well, but nobody can be righteous perfectly.
	And if you commit one sin, you're worthy of hellfire forever.
	And this is kind of the question they beg to hold up their soteriology, right?
	That God expects all of us to live perfect human lives without one mistake.
	And if we make a mistake, we need a blood sacrifice to forgive us.
	There is no such verse or even context of this anywhere in the Old Testament.
	There is nowhere that Yahweh or God is quoted as saying you have to live perfectly, blah, blah, blah.
	It's always repent and God forgives you.
	Repent with a humble heart.
	That's what pleases the heart of God.
	And God even says in the Old Testament, if you repent to me, I will wipe your sins out as if they never occurred.
	I will cast them to the bottom of the ocean floor.
	And as far as the east is from the west, so far have you removed our sins from us, Lord, through repentance and forgiveness.
	And then this is the message of Jesus in the New Testament.
	He shows up on the scene saying, repent and believe the good news, that God is here in our midst.
	The kingdom of heaven is within you.
	But you have to repent and humble yourself, right?
	Turn from your wicked ways.
	And so we see Jesus echoing the same message of the prophets in the Old Testament, but it was the priests who were corrupting God's law by introducing this pagan demonic practice of animal sacrifice.
	And this is why Jesus gave his life for this cause by going into the temple in all four gospels to cleanse the temple, pronounce condemnation on all of it, release the animals from the cages, kick over the money changers' tables, and say, You've turned my father's house into a den of murder, which he's quoting Jeremiah 7, 11 in that verse.
	Not many people know this, Mike.
	The verse in Jeremiah, you've turned my father's house into a den of thieves is what the Greek says.
	But in Hebrew, the Hebrew word is paditz, which means violent ones or murderers.
	And so you would only ever speak Hebrew in the temple.
	And so Jesus was speaking to Hebrew to fellow Hebrews, and he was quoting Jeremiah 7, 11.
	He would have said paditz, the actual word there.
	You've turned my father's house into a den of murder.
	So he's saying, This is not what God wants.
	And he knew, I will give my life for this.
	If I go into the temple and oppose this temple cult, they will crucify me.
	And yet he said, Yet I lay down my life freely for this cause.
	How would Jesus, if he were living today, how would he look at our economic system today that preys upon the lives and suffering of so many?
	Because think about it, even in the temple, the priests were selling a proxy for salvation through the suffering and destruction of another conscious animal.
	Yep.
	I've called that a racket publicly, and some people are unhappy with that word.
	Whatever.
	It's a racket.
	So to say, hey, I'm the priest in the temple.
	You've committed horrible sins.
	I'm going to have to kill a larger animal to trick God into thinking that you're innocent.
	Like, what?
	How does one negative offset another negative?
	Yeah.
	And if God knows everything, he already knows you're not, I mean, you're killing an animal that did not commit the sin.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't never made any sense to me.
	Jesus said, you don't overcome evil with evil.
	If I murder someone and have to go get my sins forgiven, I can't get my murderous sin forgiven by murdering an animal.
	That's right.
	You overcome evil with good.
	Correct.
	Forgiveness, righteousness, mercy.
	This is the message of Jesus.
	That's what I love about what you teach.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, James.
	I was just going to say, you know, the second temple, this was like our friend Cam Waters, the director of Christ Spiracy, calls it the Death Star.
	Think of an amalgamation of big pharma, the Vatican, the military-industrial complex, the IRS, everything.
	They were in bed with Rome, and they were giving Rome a cut.
	So you have the military-industrial complex, the war machine.
	You have like the back to money laundering, just like today.
	Yeah.
	Huge, selling salvation, which is like the most immoral thing I've ever heard of.
	The Catholic Church also did later.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And Yeshua went in there and freed the animals and kicked over the tables of the money changers.
	But why the money changers?
	What were they exchanging money for?
	They were selling the animals for salvation.
	And Josephus talks about the scale.
	I just want everyone to understand the scale of this death and bloodshed.
	And the Talmud also says it was like they are exaggerating, but they said it was millions of animals.
	But Josephus said it would be 250,000 animals in a week and that the blood would come up to the priest's shins.
	So this is turning the holy temple of God into a saw movie.
	Rivers of blood and suffering.
	What an abomination.
	No wonder.
	Do you really think Yeshua would be in there?
	And oh, you know, it's because they're exchanging money in the temple, or is it because innocent animals are being brutally killed under the context of forgiveness of sins?
	It's an abomination.
	And Yeshua gave his life opposing the system that has descended now into the controllers of the world.
	The people who control Israel, the people who control the United States, the Vatican at the highest levels are the descendants of the people who ran the second temple, the temple cult.
	And they're still steeped in a demonic high prophet death cult.
	Even worse today, actually.
	With the scale, there are more people to harm.
	Yeah.
	And Jesus said, it is written, my father's house was supposed to be called a house of worship and prayer for all nations.
	So he's saying, look, guys, this is the temple of God, and it's supposed to be for the greatest, most positive possible things like prayer and worship.
	And look what you've done to it.
	You have turned my father's house into a den of murder and violence.
	What greater grievance could you do, right?
	And this is why the Essene type of Judaism broke off from orthodoxy in the temple cult hundreds of years before Jesus.
	And Jesus clearly emerged from this Essene type of Judaism and the whole Jesus movement did, because the Essenes also rejected the temple for all the same reasons and because they believed that the Torah was corrupted by these priests over hundreds of years.
	I mean, the book of Leviticus, I don't know if people know this, but the book of Leviticus was written about at least five centuries after Moses, and yet it's purported to be Moses saying all these things.
	It's like, this is a lie.
	Moses did not say any of this stuff.
	This is a Ponzi scheme, a prophet scheme being weaved into the Bible in ancient times.
	And because we don't question the human traditions, we say, oh, it's all perfect and it's all God, then we miss these obvious corruptions of what was once a holy book.
	And so Moses brought down, as we know, 10 commandments from Mount Sinai, just 10, not 613 on 50 stone tablets, just two tablets with 10 commandments.
	There would have been some effort.
	Yeah, we'd have taken a couple Moses' for that.
	And so where do we get all these 600 laws from?
	And so when Jesus is asked, what must I do, good teacher, to inherit eternal life?
	He literally says, keep the commandments.
	And he doesn't list off 613.
	He lists off actually the five love your neighbor commandments, which is the second half of the 10.
	It's don't kill, don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, et cetera.
	And he says, and chief of all, or what they're all summarized in is love your neighbor as yourself.
	So Jesus clearly believed there was a core of Mosaic law that was original, that was given by God, that is good for humanity.
	And he rejected the people who followed the other 600 BS laws that were man-made.
	And so it's like we're kind of doing the same thing now, saying, look, there's a core of truth and goodness in this book, in this New Testament, but man has corrupted it and weaponized it for centralizing power, religious power, for the last 2,000 years.
	And we've got to start unraveling this behemoth that's been created.
	I see in especially conservative politics in America right now, I see a very deliberate push for anti-Islam hatred.
	And my red flags go up.
	Like, who wants us to hate followers of Islam right now for whatever reason?
	Because I don't buy into that at all.
	I don't hate Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists.
	I don't hate Islam.
	I don't hate Christians.
	I love all human beings as brothers and sisters.
	We are all of God's children.
	Amen.
	Right.
	What is going on with, you know, what forces are behind this that want us to hate people because of their faith?
	Because their faith is different from your faith.
	That's not a Jesus way to hate Islam.
	Right.
	Right?
	Yeah, it's very interesting.
	It all goes back to divide and conquer, which this tactic is used repeatedly and over and over.
	And I mean, the Persian people, for instance, have been so demonized, right, in America.
	Yeah.
	And from all of my personal experiences and from people I know, they are the most remarkable, kind, beautiful people.
	Of course, there's extremists there.
	We all understand that.
	In every society, there is extremists.
	Every society.
	But they just want to divide us.
	And honestly, Islam has many parallels with the early Christian movements.
	If you want to get into some of that.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is the funny thing, man, is when we started studying early Christianity, we found out about the Nazarene history and we're like, whoa, mind blown, right?
	And Jesus came from this sect.
	And then the Roman Catholic Church basically borrowed this, you know, Jewish reform movement, which was what the Jesus movement was.
	They weren't trying to start a new religion, right?
	Jesus was trying to reform his own religion and weave out the corruption in it.
	And it got turned through Paul's teachings primarily and the development of Gnosticism and things into this new Greco-Roman kind of mystery religion about confessing and believing and a second coming that's soon to be and all these things.
	Jesus didn't teach any of this stuff, right?
	He was talking about a right now kingdom of heaven among us and bringing it right now, not waiting someday for it to come from the skies.
	And so in studying this, we found a thread that's pretty amazing, which is that Islam, scholars who study this show with pretty convincing evidence that Islam literally is Jewish Christianity just kind of morphed a few centuries later because of the way they were so heavily persecuted by the Roman Catholic Empire and church.
	They literally made Nazarene Christianity illegal in Rome in the fourth century under Pope Damasus.
	And if you were found with Nazarene texts, they called it Judaizing, right?
	You can't Judaize Christianity.
	It's like, but it was a Jewish movement from the beginning.
	And so Nazarenism was a form of Jewish Christianity.
	So you would have all your property seized from you and they would even execute you in some cases, right?
	So the Nazarenes had to flee all of the Roman jurisdiction territories and they went into Arabia and Syria and east of the Transjordan.
	And centuries and centuries later, a guy named Prophet Muhammad comes along and he was pretty much an Ebionite for all intents of purposes.
	Ebionites was one of the Jewish Christian sects that lasted for many centuries.
	And he has this revelation and then this new kind of religion forms off of it.
	But when you look at the core tenets of Islam, it's like early Jewish Christianity would have looked very similar to what we now know today as Islam, truly monotheistic, unlike the Catholic Church with its polytheistic Trinitarian doctrines, right?
	No, no, no, there's one God, one being, one nature, and it's all about following God's commandments, living righteously, pleasing God with your life is how you show you have faith in God.
	And that's what the Jewish Christians believed.
	And so scholars show these links, which are pretty remarkable, that Islam is the result of Catholic persecution against the early Jewish Christians.
	We'll be building thousands of books a month.
	And ultimately, it'll be a million books that people can download free of charge.
	And in 2026, it will generate books in any language.
	This is how I hope to reach, ultimately, my goal is to be able to reach a billion people with messages that empower them.
	With how to be healthier, how to be more practical, how to decentralize, how to live a better life, a higher quality life that your government never really wants you to live because they only profit from sickness and disease.
	So we are the counterculture against the establishment that wants you dead.
	We want you to live and prosper.
	So it sounds like you are really trying to build this like great library of Alexandria created, curated by AI as a way to bridge this knowledge gap that other people might, you know, critical thinkers of this world might want to access, you know, if they don't know a certain skill, if they don't know something, they just want to learn about something.
	But it's all decentralized.
	It's free.
	I mean, it sounds like this is the architecture to like basically rebuild society if it comes to that.
	You got it.
	And is that really, is that part of your plan too?
	This is almost like an emergency backup in case we lose everything because, you know, I think there's a really big risk of, you know, some kind of grid down cyber attack scenario happening, some kind of solar flare.
	We've all seen those headlines and they're all worthy of consideration, but it sounds like, I mean, I don't know of anybody else who's really trying to do this.
	Talk about that.
	What utilities would you have for this store of knowledge in a grid down scenario?
	What would like the average family use it for?
	Just kind of like paint that picture.
	Okay.
	And that's a great question.
	Thank you for asking.
	Yeah.
	The vulnerability of modern civilization is that most people's knowledge is connected to the cloud.
	Right.
	When they're using AI, it's through a browser or it's through an app.
	When they are querying a search engine, same thing.
	When they're reading a book from Amazon, it's on a Kindle device that checks in with the Amazon servers or Audible.
	It has to check in with Audible servers, right?
	And there are even, you know, John Deere used to have, you would buy a tractor and if you didn't pay your loan, your tractor wouldn't start because it checks in with the John Deere servers, you know, just insane levels of centralization.
	So what we set out to do was to first build and release open source an AI engine that you can download and that's done.
	We released that months ago that runs locally.
	So if everything goes down out there, the whole internet goes down, as long as you have local power, you can boot up your laptop or your desktop.
	We even have a company putting it on phones now.
	Our model comes pre-installed on the phones from above phone.
	And it's local.
	It's running locally.
	Now, it's kind of slow because it's a 12 billion parameter model, but it works, you know?
	And so you can boot up your laptop.
	You can ask any questions you want.
	We wanted this to be useful for people, especially in developing countries or off-grid people or in the aftermath of some kind of collapse or civil war.
	That's why we trained it also on how to assemble and disassemble 3,000 different firearms.
	That's all in there.
	That's so cool.
	So, I mean, for two years, I acquired so much documents and knowledge.
	And I would buy like DVDs of open source books and things like that.
	I curated the whole data set myself and put all this into the engine.
	You'd be astonished how much you can ask it.
	I mean, the stuff it knows is like way beyond what anybody typically would imagine.
	But it is designed so that you could use this to help jumpstart society in a collapse.
	But here's the other thing.
	Storage media.
	I've done a lot of research on this.
	You mentioned EMP or SolarFlare.
	That would wipe out most electronics, at least we believe it would.
	Well, what's immune to that is optical storage.
	Optical storage can have a thousand-year shelf life.
	Whereas hard drives, did you know that hard drives lose about 1% of their bits every year just sitting in storage?
	Wow.
	And the reason that doesn't destroy your files is because they have a parity bit that can rebuild the lost bit.
	But over time, hard drives stop working and it doesn't even take that long.
	You know, 10 years, a lot of hard drives just don't function.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Because they're magnetic, right?
	It's a lot of magnetic interference.
	Well, optical media, they last through floods.
	They last through EMPs because it's burned into the plastic, the pits.
	The ones and zeros are burned into multiple layers of plastic.
	My question for you, I guess we might be approaching the end of this here.
	What I want to talk about is, and this may be the answer.
	You may have already answered this, but you can correct me if I'm wrong.
	But the way I see it, these big dogs, the chat GPTs, the Grocs, the Geminis, it seems like the creators and the figureheads, you know, the Sam Altmans, they talk about their tech as if there's like no endgame.
	Like they're just going to see their AI creation until it inevitably becomes like the demon hive mind that kills us all.
	And they're just like, yeah, we're okay with that.
	That's the way they seem to talk about it.
	Like there's no end in sight.
	So my question for you when it comes to Brighteon AI is, as its creator, do you have like an end point in mind where you're like, we are going to use it for just these use cases?
	And though tempting it may be to perhaps even like humanize Brighteon AI a little bit and stuff, we're going to stop here.
	And this is like where we're going to just say the buck stops here with it so that it doesn't become something that we had never intended it to become.
	Do you have like some kind of like line in the sand like that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And we've been very clear about that.
	So our AI is not for pursuing relationships, for example.
	It's never going to be your AI girlfriend avatar.
	Okay.
	It doesn't do that.
	You know, you could try, but you're going to be very disappointed because it's going to tell you about how to disassemble firearms.
	It's the most boring day ever.
	Right, right.
	But it is designed to help humans live in a decentralized manner and to survive the Skynet apocalypse, which is coming.
	So you're exactly right, Reese, what you just said.
	So ChatGPT, Microsoft, Google, in my view, they are all headed toward the goal of destroying, exterminating most of humanity and replacing humans with machines.
	Now, I don't put Elon Musk in the same category as that.
	Elon is in many ways fighting against that.
	I mean, look at his previous involvement in open AI and he doesn't trust Sam Altman.
	I don't trust Sam Altman either.
	And I obviously don't trust Google at all.
	But if there's a surviving human element on this planet, they will have Brighteon AI because that will help them grow their own medicine, make their own herbal extracts.
	It will help them grow food.
	It will help them.
	It even writes code too, by the way.
	It's not competitive with Anthropic or something like that, but it writes basic computer code, batch files, Python code, things like that.
	But our model is the model that they will use to survive and to live off-grid.
	And that's why I'm in a race to build and release the best models that we can.
	And right now, not at this location, but at another location, I think I sent you a video of some of our science paper processing.
	Yes.
	We've got 48 workstations with GPUs that are currently processing the world's knowledge, including every science paper that's ever been published.
	And don't ask me how I got that, but it was not easy.
	But we are classifying the world's knowledge and then selecting a subset of that knowledge that's critical for decentralization and survival for the human remnant.
	And that's what our goal is.
	So it's not going to be your AI girlfriend.
	It's going to be your AI survival coach.
	I guess with this in mind, this picture you've painted for us when it comes to how this would be used in the apocalypse, how it would help literally rebuild society.
	My question for you personally is, has this tech, this AI tech, like radically shifted your prognosis for humanity's survival and flourishing should some like crazy apocalyptic thing go down?
	Basically, my question is, before this was starting to really, like the ball was getting rolling on all this AI stuff back in 2021-ish, were you just like, I don't know what's going to happen to humanity?
	I mean, this looks bad.
	But now that AI has here, have you become more positive about humanity's future more or less stay the same?
	Or what does that look like for me personally?
	That's a great question.
	Also, we're not quite there.
	Need.
	Actually, we need some advances in robotics with open source robot brains, using open source AI models, and that's my next goal.
	So the reason we need robotics is because we need the multiplication of human labor in order to rebuild society.
	So right now, if you try to live off-grid, you're going to spend a lot of your time trying to grow enough food to not die.
	Once you can assign that task to a robot which is right around the corner, maybe in two years, that'll be really practical.
	And we're going to be testing that here, you know, at this facility.
	We're in the process of trying to acquire robots and we're going to run them through all our tests.
	And our goal there is to advocate for home robotics or small farm robotics to grow food and to handle tasks of decentralized off-grid living.
	And those robots can also do patrols, defensive patrols, right?
	To watch out for raiders or the zombies or whatever might be coming for you.
	So once we have agentic AI at the software level for all the knowledge, and remember, AI models right now can teach you anything you want to learn.
	You can just ask it, write a lesson plan, write a book, so that's in place now.
	It just needs to be expressed better.
	But once we have the agentic AI and then the robotic systems that can be flashed with open source models, which that's going to be a fun experiment.
	I'm sure I'm going to ruin some robots here coming up.
	But once we can do that, then humanity has a chance.
	A chance to survive the drone wars, a chance to survive the Skynet Terminator extermination efforts.
	And by the way, I mean, we could do a whole segment.
	I know we're almost out of time, but we could do a whole segment on where will be the most likely targets for the Skynet extermination robots.
	And that will be the cities, because that's where you have the highest population density and the most people that are on government benefits.
	So the cities will be the kill zones.
	So the rural areas will be where the survivors move to by definition.
	And if you don't know how to live off-grid and you don't have a robot helping you, survival is very difficult.
	Yeah.
	So we need to get robots combined with the AI that we have now.
	And then it's very doable to make it through this.
	You can be cut off of anything at any time, you know, with your bank, with Coinbase.
	You can be cut off at any time by any, if you're relying on another party that you don't know.
	So there's a lot of things you can do in your life.
	And I would focus on where you can start.
	Just focus on what you can control and through raising the consciousness and awareness.
	Because if you don't, you're going to suffer the hard way.
	If you don't do those actions, then you deserve what's coming.
	Chris, does fractional reserve and rehypothecation have any with the ETFs?
	Does that have anything to do with BTC?
	Is it really 21 million now or is it not?
	I think it's less than 21 million if we're just looking at the physical itself.
	Sure.
	Yes, there is more paper than there is Bitcoin, not to the magnitude of silver and gold at this current juncture, but absolutely the derivative tail is wagging the dog in this instance.
	I'm actually kind of shocked that it's handled it.
	Like everybody's panicking, it's 87,000, 86,000.
	I look at that having been in 10 years going, okay, I want all the Bitcoins.
	But is the Wall Street effect, the fractional effect kicked in?
	Absolutely.
	Without a doubt.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, we discovered at the beginning of this that there is going to be a 67th book of the Bible, the book of Sullivan.
	So I'm taking notes, Chris.
	Okay, can I have the next question?
	Matt, I want to ask you about gold revaluation.
	This has been a lot of speculation about that for a long time.
	But it looks like Trump is and Besant in particular looking at every possible option to try to shore up U.S. Treasuries and maybe pay down some of the debt to decrease the debt to GDP ratio.
	So in the hopes of maybe lowering, you know, 10-year Treasury rates and things like that.
	What do you think, Matt?
	Is there a gold revaluation in the future?
	Oh, 100% there's going to be.
	I don't think there's any doubt about it.
	The question is, the biggest question, or I think the big open question is whether or not they actually fix it to a price or they simply mark to market.
	And I think it's pretty obvious they're simply going to mark to market.
	And they'll probably do it a few times on the way up as they continue to destroy the currency.
	Wait a minute.
	So they're going to mark it to the current market price, which let's say if it's $4,000, that only generates for them about, I think, $1 trillion in additional liquidity in the general fund of the Treasury, correct?
	Yeah, that's right.
	But the thing is, is that if they do it higher than that, they have to defend that price.
	Are they actually going to print money and buy gold in the open market at that price?
	You don't have credibility because they risk losing a lot of credibility when you do this.
	First of all, the fact you're doing it, you're going to lose credibility.
	But then if you try and fix it to it and it either is way below or way, you know, if it's way above, you just, it's fine.
	And they know the gold is going to continue to go up because they're going to continue to print money.
	Right.
	So they can just follow it on the way up.
	And you're right.
	A trillion dollars isn't that much.
	It's an absurd amount of money.
	Yeah.
	But it isn't that much in the grand scheme of things.
	In 2025, it's not that much.
	That's wild.
	Not a month.
	But it's only going to pay down a small percentage of the debt, right?
	I mean, this market volatility is really good for the treasury 10-year two.
	It really pushes rates down.
	So, you know, this is in a way they're trying to, my guess is, is that they're going to hold off doing mark to market as long as they can because there's no advantage to doing it.
	It's going to have consequences that they can't even imagine, you know, when they do it and market consequences that they might not be able to predict.
	But they do need that cash.
	They do need that cash.
	And so it will come into play at some point.
	I mean, I would expect within the next year, I think you'll have a mark to market.
	But you are confident that gold will continue trending higher in dollar denomination.
	Oh, I'm 100% sure of it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I could be wrong, but in my belief system, I'm 100% sure.
	It's never been as obvious to me as it's been starting this year when the Trump administration came into office.
	And it was clear they had aggressive plans in place to change things, whether they would be successful or not, and that they were going to devalue the dollar as part of it.
	It's a specific plank of the policy.
	And then you also see the central bank buying the way it is around the world.
	It's almost as if every government in the world, and this is true at this point, this wasn't true before now.
	Every government in the world benefits from the price of gold going up because they are the largest holders of gold.
	So if gold goes up, their balance sheets become better.
	I mean, if you think about the price of the currencies look weaker, though, at the same time.
	Yeah, that's true.
	But the fee high currencies are on their way out.
	And I think they know it's endgame at this point.
	So I think that's where the script got flipped recently in the last year, where all of a sudden it's like, no, it's better for us not to suppress it.
	And you see the 2,000 tons roughly of gold that moved into the U.S. in the early part of the year.
	It's inexplicable.
	There is no private buyer who would have been allowed to do that.
	Western currencies are failing.
	And we're ending the era of these failed fiat currencies.
	Many people believe that governments are going to move into digital currencies.
	I mean, that just seems the obvious direction here for at least government currency.
	Two questions to you, Chris.
	Number one, do you think that like JP Morgan is going to have its coin and Amazon is going to have its coin and X is going to have its coin?
	They're all going to be backed by treasuries to shore up the treasury market.
	That's the first question.
	And then the second question is, do you think that the government will issue a UBI and use the UBI benefit as a way to force people into something like a CBDC?
	Or what are your thoughts on that?
	JP Morgan already has one.
	Right.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Amazon probably.
	I've not seen any white papers or written plans to make an evidentiary-based comment on that, but probably is a fair assessment.
	And yeah, of course, how I even look at, oh, we're going to get a 2K tariff dividend for below 150 or below 100K incomes, where it was.
	They said, oh, it's going to come out in two weeks.
	And then, no, no, no, it's going to be Q2, 2026.
	I think they're actually kind of goading the Fed to lower rates because the current liquidity picture at the macro level across the planet is end times looking.
	If they don't step up and print like on the on the come now, then the whole thing goes kaputz.
	And you're looking at the only way out for these powers that shouldn't be is the great taking.
	So whether the administration wants that or not, I can't speak to whether it's part of the agenda.
	I'm not intimately aware of.
	But I know that the central banks are not in cahoots with the administration anywhere on the planet, whether it's in UK, Germany, Japan.
	I mean, look at the yen or the yuan, which they keep printing as well.
	So I'm just not convinced that what you mentioned about it being kind of a teaser to UBI to then CBDC, that's absolutely what the agenda would be central banks, but just not convinced that it would be part and parcel to what the agenda of the administration is.
	What would you and Doug say?
	Do we even have any gold at Fort Knox or do you think that's gone?
	You know, I think Doug believes we do.
	But I'll have to update.
	I'll have to ask him again, actually, about that because we haven't talked about that in a while.
	But I suspect that they have more than they actually say.
	And I know that this 2,000 tons, again, that's added.
	Suppose you just had 8,000.
	It's possible that they were repatriating it or getting it on hand because they didn't have enough.
	That's one thing, one theory.
	But I think it's more likely that when they do, if they do anything, they're going to want to, they know, they know what China has been accumulating and they know that they've got a lot of it.
	And when the endgame comes with these currencies, I think that they're going to, they all, the central banks are going to make sure that they have enough in place to basically, you know, a certain percentage of their GDP or whatever.
	So I suspect they actually have more than people think, really.
	Oh, that's encouraging.
	And Chris, sometimes we talk over people's heads and I don't want to do that.
	Can you please unpack what the great taking is?
	Just for those who may not be familiar, please.
	Yeah, it's essentially the, it's part to all of these plans that have names like Cloud Pippin, Calgary, et cetera.
	I think you can look at Morals and Dogma 1871 by Albert Pike as probably your first teaser offense.
	Essentially, once 1913 occurred, then immediately you have the income tax, World War I, and you set up essentially a plan of three world wars.
	And as these acts were passed both with the confiscation of gold, 1933 and 34 after it, then you get to 1964 and they begin to dematerialize property rights to securities.
	And from then till 2010 was a step-by-step process, very well described by David Rogers Webb in his book called The Great Taking.
	That's why I have that moniker for it, where you don't own anything already and you don't even know that you don't like it yet.
	Cloud Swab.
	So that's already occurred.
	So that every asset that you hold at your brokerage accounts is held in street name.
	You don't own the property rights to it.
	It's totally different than the bearer certificates you had as stocks back in the day.
	And this is why we're all such advocates of self-custody.
	And I'd like to ask you both to talk to our audience about that.
	And also, by the way, before the great taking, there will be the great puking, which is the puking of the currency and everybody losing their minds.
	Like, where did it all go?
	And then there'll be a giant rug pull of all their assets and like, oh my God, we're all suddenly impoverished.
	So how do we prevent that?
	I'll start with you, Matt.
	And feel free to go old school on this too, you know, with just stacking metal or whatever is you, you and Doug Casey talk about this all the time.
	What are the best steps that people can take that are practical?
	Yeah, well, I should say first, if you read what David Rogers Webb wrote, there is no way to stop the great taking if they pull the trigger.
	And if you have your assets in the stock market, essentially, if you own stocks, they and this can be done right now.
	It can be done tomorrow morning.
	It could be done five years from now, but the wiring is all there.
	The building is set to implode.
	Someone's just got to pull the trigger on it.
	So you just have to, if you own stocks, which I do, you're basically betting they're not going to go, they're not going to go nuke on this whole thing.
	They're not going to blow it all up right now.
	So that's just for the record.
	So there's no way to avoid it if you're in the stock market at all.
	But it does make sense to own physical, tangible things.
	And I would put Bitcoin in that category.
	I'm not as familiar with the other cryptocurrencies, but it is something that you can self-custody, that you have possession of.
	I know it's dematerialized and it is something that does exist.
	And so that does count in this category.
	Obviously, I'm a big fan of gold.
	I think silver is speculative.
	The problem with silver, physical silver, is that obviously we talked about how hard it was to redeem gold or sell gold if you ever needed cash.
	That problem is just worse with silver because it's a lot heavier.
	So, you know, I'm much more, much, I might trade in silver, but I own physically much more gold by comparison.
	But I also, I believe in just the things that you need for your life.
	I mean, one of the best things you can do is with inflation where it is and knowing they're going to print money, what are the things that you know you're going to buy in the next year?
	Buying them today, I mean, you're almost guaranteed at least a 10% return on that, potentially a lot higher than that.
	So if you know you're going to, I mean, by, you know, by spending 10% less over time on those things, I mean, you know, while the money's still more valuable today.
	So like, that's one of the most obvious no-brainers everybody can do.
	Like, what are the household goods that do not spoil that you know that you're going to need in the next year?
	You've got extra storage room.
	You should get them in advance.
	There's no reason not to.
	Beyond that, you know, I'm, you know, I have a, I'm into being able to produce my own food.
	And, you know, and I know this is limited for some people, what they can do.
	I understand that.
	But even having a garden, it makes sense.
	You get actually way better food and it's in your control and the prices of tomatoes don't matter to you.
	So that's I think these are all things that are totally tangible that people ought to do and are rewarding in and of themselves to do.
	Like you don't, you feel good in doing and planning and gardening and self-custodying your own Bitcoin, figuring out how that works and doing that and certainly owning gold as well.
	There are approximately 100 million American families, you know, 330 million Americans, the average family and so forth.
	So you've got 100 million American families that are supposed to somehow repay 100 trillion in debt.
	Now, that happens to be $1 million per family.
	And the average family in America today earns $52,000 and they're barely getting by.
	So where is the money going to come from to pay off this debt?
	The question I think is, is it a product of just terrible leadership in our country?
	Or is there a design behind it?
	I have the same conclusion that for every person who loses a job to AI, that actually can free humanity from the drudgery of low-cognition jobs.
	And through retraining, which is now free, because you can learn any skill you want at zero cost by using free AI agents, you can get an MBA education from AI.
	And let me say this, Gary.
	Every employer in America, the corporate employers now, I can't say every, but most, they no longer emphasize what degree you have.
	They emphasize whether you know how to use AI in your job.
	If you come in with a resume like, I know how to use AI, I know how to semi-automate this job, you're hired.
	And you can teach that.
	I mean, you can have AI teach you that at home at no cost.
	So there's no barrier to upgrading your job skills right now.
	Yes.
	No barrier.
	The only barrier is the barrier that people put on themselves.
	And you know what?
	That applies to really everything in life.
	This is going to be a fantastic opportunity for thinking people that are willing to adapt and willing to take the tool and embrace it rather than be afraid of it.
	But it's going to be disruptive.
	And I agree with you.
	I think we're going to see a basic universal income.
	And as I mentioned, I think we already have that, you know, with 42 million people on food stamps.
	By the way, the amount of money, the average amount of money that a person gets for their family on food stamps is about $250.
	It doesn't feed your family.
	Yeah, that's amazing.
	But that's what we're going to find with universal basic income when it becomes a reality.
	It's going to be barely enough to survive.
	After all, they don't want us to eat meat, right?
	That's true.
	They've let us know on that.
	No, they want you to be dependent on the system.
	Yeah.
	So it's just barely enough to survive by design.
	So I think the points we're making here is don't sit back and allow yourself to be a victim of the disruption.
	Right.
	And there's a lot of aspects to that.
	One is start prepping yourself to be a productive person in the new economy that's coming because there's going to be incredible opportunities for people.
	There'll be more millionaires made in this disruption than there was during the 1930s.
	But it's those people that are thinking correctly, thinking well, that have the courage and the willingness to work hard.
	You know, I wasn't able to build my company because I was lazy.
	No one ever accused you of being lazy, that's for sure.
	Somebody asked me on an interview, you know, you built the largest fitness franchise in the world.
	Do you consider yourself lucky?
	Lucky?
	Yeah.
	And I said, well, I learned something.
	The harder I work, the luckier I get.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And this disruption that you speak of right now.
	And, you know, for example, I showed you a project that I'm about to roll out.
	There are new opportunities that did not exist before that can be, I mean, look, I've seen ideas, I've seen prototypes of ideas that are but a shadow of what I just showed you that instantly received hundreds of millions of dollars in VC funding.
	Yeah.
	That were a pale shadow of it.
	I mean, you can instantly add value to society in new ways because of the disruption, which is your point.
	That's what you're saying.
	And the easy way to not be left behind in this is to break your paradigm.
	The new future is not going to be like the old world that we came from.
	One of the great benefits of this disruptive new, this technology and maybe the, you know, the reset and possibly even the collapse of our dollar currency, which is fake money, there's the potential for things to be much better, much improved on the other side for humans to live with greater purpose.
	So to be free from a lot of the drudgery and a lot of the indebtedness, but you might live in a 500 square foot one bedroom place and still be happier than what you are today.
	So talk to us about the evolution of purpose, mission, and consciousness along this pathway.
	Great.
	That's a great question.
	There's two questions that we have to ask ourselves.
	I think they're the two greatest questions of all.
	The first one is, who am I?
	Now, identity has been a battlefield out there.
	And it's crazy how they've run with it and caused confusion in people.
	So if someone were to ask me, who are you?
	How do I identify?
	This is my answer.
	And it's, I think, the most important questions that you can ask someone.
	Well, first of all, as a Christian, I believe that I am an individual who was created in the image of a loving God.
	No one has ever existed like me before or will be like me afterwards.
	I am unique.
	This loving God who made me in his image made me to love him and to be loved by him.
	And then the second great question is, what is your purpose?
	Well, knowing who I am, I believe that my purpose is to serve this loving God, to listen to him.
	He has plans to prosper me, not harm me, and to be an emissary.
	I literally wear the signet ring of a creator God, and I walk in this world as his emissary, teaching people about his love and being about his business.
	When I wake up every morning, the first thing I do, and you'll appreciate this when you're 70, I say, thank you, God, for this day.
	I wake up with an attitude of gratitude.
	Yes.
	And then the second thing I say is, what do you got for me to do?
	How can I serve you today?
	How can it be about your business?
	And you live that.
	I mean, you really work that principle daily.
	Yeah, I mean, he's faithful to assign me.
	And, you know, I don't drag along guilt and shame and blame because I'm not always perfect.
	One thing Christians often forget to do is forgive themselves.
	Jesus paid the price, man.
	My job is to go into that throne room first thing in the morning boldly because Jesus paid the price for that and tell that my loving God that I'm available for him and has sent me.
	And let me tell you what, he sent me on adventures in Haiti with three of my aircraft for six weeks flying search and rescue.
	We're the only rescue for these people who've been wounded in the hurricane and flying through tornadoes and North Carolina.
	Yeah, North Carolina right there too.
	After Hurricane Helene.
	And, you know, that's part of who he is.
	The Bible says that he'll give us the desires of our heart.
	Well, I love aviation.
	And so for me to, you know, I flew Rand Paul, who's an ophthalmologist, to Haiti.
	And we took 250 blind, elderly, desperately poor Haitians, and we removed cataracts.
	Wow.
	We gave 250 blind people sight.
	Transformative.
	I get to do that because I know who I am and I know why I am.
	And so living your life out at that level, there's nothing to fear.
	There's only joy and hope and purpose.
	And it doesn't mean things always go the right way, but when you stumble, it's probably a learning opportunity.
	So that when you get up, you know, Zig Ziegler, the old motivational, he was my personal friend, my personal mentor.
	Oh, really?
	Wow.
	Talk about a, you know, and literally God put him in my life.
	You know, he'd call me in the morning and stuff.
	But Zig used to say, it's not how fast you run that wins the race.
	It's how quickly you get up after you fall.
	See, you know, we talk about AI replacement and jobs.
	A lot of people, their identity is so tied to their job that if they lose their job and they start to think, oh my God, I've just been replaced by a machine.
	I'm worthless.
	I'm a worthless human.
	That is, I mean, don't dwell on that.
	Up your skills, up your knowledge.
	Do better for your future.
	And that's all up to you.
	Nobody's going to come along in this realm.
	No government official is going to come along and rescue you.
	You've got to take it upon yourself with your God-given creativity and intelligence to revolutionize your own future.
	And that's our message today: to seize that moment and make your future better.
	You know, I spoke last week at a senior high school in a small town.
	And I talk about a tough audience, by the way.
	Oh, yeah.
	14 to 18-year-olds.
	I spoke the next day in Waco in front of the entire prominent citizens of the community, judges.
	I had a Supreme Court, Texas Supreme Court justice on the front row.
	That was nothing.
	It was the high school that kept me up.
	But I told these kids, and I'm going to tell your audience too, that all of you have a secret weapon.
	You know, it's kind of like Batman.
	You may not know it, but I'm going to tell you what it is right now.
	All of you have free will.
	All of you are free moral agents.
	You have been given a life to live as you choose if you dare to take responsibility for who you really are.
	Now, we're products of our environment, but with free will, we get to choose much of our environment.
	We certainly get to choose how we react to our environment.
	Yes.
	You know, I had a tough childhood.
	You know, I left home at 16.
	I had to give blood to eat.
	You know, I really wasn't given anything in terms of resources.
	But I chose to take my environment.
	I lied about my age and got a job in oil field as a roughneck at 17.
	No kidding.
	You were a roughneck?
	Yeah, and I still have all my fingers.
	That's a rough job.
	Oh, you did there.
	At 17, I weighed 155 pounds.
	I loaded cargo ships in Longshoreman when I was 17 in the summer in Beaumont, Texas, in the hull of a ship in a 100-degree day, throwing a 50-pound bag of flour over my shoulder, going up into the hull where there was a spot and dumping it, breathing the flour from my lungs.
	I used to load UPS trucks when I was in college, and those are 110 degrees in the summer in the Midwest, and people shipping 70-pound boxes.
	But you know what?
	It was a free will choice.
	I was making 10 times the minimum wage of $1.10 an hour, by the way, to do that kind of work.
	And I was willing to do that to pay for college and to get ahead and so forth.
	It's just free will.
	And, you know, I said in the earlier interview, people have to be willing to do hard work.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	But work is gratifying.
	And work motivates you.
	You know, when I was out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico on an oil rig, they'd fly you out, leave you for seven days, and then come back and get you.
	If you worked a double, you stayed seven days, the next seven days, and another seven days.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I mean, talk, you know, completely away from everybody and everything.
	But man, I made so much money that I could afford to pay tuition and books and things.
	But I remember when I was out there in the winter and it's freezing, I was muddy, and we were working with a drill pipe.
	I said to myself, one day I'm going to work in air condition around women.
	And I'm the founder of Curves with my life.
	That's exactly what you built.
	It motivated me to do what I ultimately was able to do.
	You just didn't know they would all be lesbians.
	No expenses.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	You know what?
	She saw the South Park episode of that Curves, where they depicted us, but that was just a comedy.
	Oh, that's just comedy.
	I'm just kidding too.
	So anyway, free moral agency is a great gift we have if we realize it.
	That's our secret weapon.
	And if you own it, and if you know who you are, you're a child of the king of the universe who's got plans for you and purposes for you.
	And that's how you define yourself.
	And that's how you live your life.
	The opportunities, that's certainly how I was able to not just make a fortune, but to make a difference.
	See, and that's the beauty of it.
	It's more important to make a difference than to make a fortune.
	But it's great when you can do both because then with the fortune, you can often make a bigger difference when it's applied with principles, which is exactly what you do.
	Well, another Zig Ziglar quote.
	You can get anything in your life you want if you just help enough other people get what they want.
	That's right.
	I remember that quote.
	That's exactly true.
	You solve even a small problem for a billion people.
	You become a billionaire.
	Yeah.
	I mean, and that's, see, that's a maturity about understanding that profit cannot be based on extraction from others in a win-lose dynamic, but rather in a win-win dynamic of helping others and then being helped yourself at the same time.
	You know, a quote that I guess I made it up.
	Joy is a byproduct of the good you do for others.
	I like that.
	You know, when I'm got, and my wife often goes with me on these missions, sitting in the helicopter beside me, North Carolina or Haiti with the aircraft, rescuing people.
	At the end of the day, knowing you've literally saved lives, you've fed thousands of people, you go to sleep that night with a smile on your face.
	That's joy.
	That's right.
	That's how I want to live my life.
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