Mike Adams & Alex Jones: Domestic Terror Threat, Economic Collapse & the AI Warfare Future
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All right, Mike Adams is riding a shotgun with me in this hour.
He's hosting the fourth hour today.
He's a software engineer, best-selling author, health expert, AI expert, you name it.
And we had him on last week.
I wanted to get him back on to do a deeper dive with us today.
But I've been interviewing General Flynn for 10 years, former head of Fense Intelligence Agency, former National Security Advisor to Trump.
I've never heard him so concerned with everything he's seeing, saying within 90 days, a whole spectrum of terror attacks, a lot of little terror attacks, but much bigger than 9-11.
And we already put the headline out.
I should have wrote it.
The headline's okay, but it's like attack bigger than 9-11.
Actually, clarified, it's a whole bunch of attacks to bring down the infrastructure trying to crash the stock market.
You know, the scarf shutdown was an attempt at that.
Now they've got so much pressure.
It's so unpopular.
They're having to back off.
Who knows what's going to happen there?
But big picture, the globalists are making their move.
And then you've got the Justice Department behind the scenes running around trying to shut down the pipe bomber story.
And that's a bad sign.
So I just wanted to first ask Mike Adams of naturalnews.com, Mike, big picture.
What do you make of General Flynn issuing the starkest warning I've ever heard him put out?
That everything he sees and the pre-preparations with all these drug gang forces, Islamic forces, all of it, and then now ICE getting shot at Chicago, the Latin Kings that you don't ever really hear about because it's more of a mafia, but it's older and way more sophisticated than MS-13 or TDA putting out an officially order to kill ICE on site.
This is escalating very quickly.
How would you describe the moment we're in right now in response to General Flynn?
Well, I completely agree with what General Flynn said.
He's 100% on board, and it confirms a lot of the chatter, a lot of the sources information that I've been exposed to over the years, interviewing people sometimes in shadow because we couldn't reveal their names and so on.
And I know many of your sources have said much the same thing.
And I know Matt Bracken has spoken about this.
There's an infrastructure of domestic terrorism that has been put into play.
So we know, we actually know the U.S. State Department knows what kinds of weapons have gone missing that they initially had track of as they were crossing the border, but they've lost track of them.
And those include surface-to-air missiles.
There was a big scare about that during Trump's campaigning in the last election.
And he actually altered some of his use of airplanes and stopped using, I think, the Trump plane for that very reason.
That was a very credible threat.
And that threat still exists.
I think the last I heard, there were at least 10 surface-to-air missiles in the United States.
And if you remember, not tuning my own horn, I warned of the service-air missile threat three months before it became the big threat.
Absolutely.
And so you also know that there is staged in America, there are small portable mortar units, probably 60 millimeters or something like that, that can be used to hit refineries.
They can be used to hit power grid substations.
On top of that, and this is, I don't know, six months ago that we got word from some of our sources that drones were being used to airlift anti-personnel mines over the border in Arizona.
So there are anti-personnel mines.
There are RPGs that are staged in storage facilities or just sort of hidden, you know, shipping containers or what have you all across this country, including, you know, police uniforms and things like that.
So yes, the infrastructure for massive widespread terrorism exists.
But Alex, what I would like to add to that is I believe that the globalist forces that are trying to destroy America, they're waiting for a critical moment of U.S. economic weakness when they issue the go signal, when they want to strike.
So they want an economic crash as the focal point to blame Trump, claim he's Herbert Hoover.
So do they do it?
Do they do it before the Supreme Court potentially rules against his tariffs or after?
Well, I think that ruling is imminent, and I think it will go against Trump.
But I think that the terror attacks are probably waiting for something bigger.
For example, bank failures.
Bank failures are also imminent.
There are both the consumer lending banks will suffer cascading failures throughout 2026 and also the commercial real estate lending banks.
So there are two different vectors of bank failures that we're about to see.
And on the consumer side, Alex, let me mention consumer debt has reached a record high, $18.6 trillion.
And that's student loans, home loans, car loans, and medical debt primarily.
Those are the top four.
You're seeing subprime auto lenders now going into default.
I think three of them have gone into default so far.
That's going to cascade up the chain to other larger auto loan lenders.
It's basically the big short for car loans is what's happening right now.
And car repos are just skyrocketing all across the country.
There's got to be a glut of used cars available, you know, starting now for this very reason.
Those that don't understand this, not just in the last 200 years, but throughout history, whenever an empire or system comes to the end of a bubble, they always have a war, start a war.
The question is, what type of war will this be?
So we're at the end of a bubble.
They need something to change the subject.
What will that trigger be?
Domestic race war, full war with Russia, China?
I don't think the globals have made their decision yet.
They've got a lot of stuff going on.
Trump being in the White House trying to stabilize and stop it really causes them a problem because they normally make these moves when they're in control.
I've never really seen them make a move in the middle of a transition at the end of a cycle while there's a civil war within the power structure.
That's what makes this so special.
Yeah, and I want to be clear, even though I'm critical of some of the things that Trump is doing, he inherited a problem that is unsolvable.
You know, the debt that exists, the entitlements that exist, all of the Social Security, Medicare, pensions, military spending, interest on the debt, and so on.
There's nothing that any president can do about those expenditures.
And that's why they sat out with Biden and Kamala because the globalists already planned to crash this.
They can't believe the can's been kicked down.
Exactly.
The Gavin Newsom stuff are sitting back to come into the saviors after it.
But I do think that Trump's $2,000 helicopter money airdrop, even though in the short term, it may temporarily spur economic spending at the local level.
It's going to save a lot of local restaurants and retailers and so on.
But that's only going to add to inflation, which worsens the longer term problem, obviously.
You have more currency chasing the same limited set.
True.
So war.
What are the different moves the globalists are going to make?
Well, I think, again, the globalists are going to wait for a substantial financial crisis to unfold, which could happen before the end of this year.
And I think General Flynn is correct that that kind of event will be used to spur a very aggressive set of global moves.
And we have to keep in mind China and Taiwan.
Now, I mean, you know, Alex, you know, I lived in Taiwan.
You know, I'm very fond of the Taiwanese people.
I speak Chinese and I have great admiration for Chinese culture and Chinese intellect, et cetera.
Taiwan is beginning, well, for a long time, they've been moving to rejoining China.
And what Trump has done with the punitive tariffs that have even affected Taiwan is Trump has actually hurt some of the pro-America allies in Taiwan through those tariffs.
Same thing's happening with India, where there's 50% tariffs right now.
So Trump has lost a lot of allies actually in Taiwan, and there's a stronger move to rejoin China.
I would not be surprised.
The reason I mentioned this is because as America becomes economically weak through a crisis, there may be a very aggressive non-military move for Taiwan to make a leap to rejoin China because of the trade benefits that China is developing with its Belt and Road initiative.
And for people who don't know, they go, why who cares about Taiwan?
What percentage of the best chips for AI are made there?
Well, I mean, Taiwan Semiconductor is the world leader by far.
It has the best technology, the best, you know, two nanometer manufacturing lithography technology, et cetera.
So without Taiwan, we, the West, we cannot manufacture our microchips at anywhere near the current rate.
And without that knowledge base, now I understand we're setting up microchip factories in places like Texas.
However, if you follow the most recent factory in Texas, they have massive problems, huge problems.
And you can't just take a microchip factory out of Taiwan and stick it in Texas because everything's different.
The soils are different.
Everything's shifting with the soils.
The water quality is different.
The air, the humidity, the weather, the changes in barometric pressure, all of this affects lithography.
So people did copy for decades and decades and decades.
Absolutely.
And again, my admiration for the people of Taiwan, that's underscored by the fact that they have become the most brilliant microchip engineers and manufacturing people on the planet by far.
And if China then takes over control of that, and you just heard Gen Seng Huang, the CEO of NVIDIA, say that China is very likely to win the race to superintelligence.
And there are all kinds of reasons.
We can go into that if you want.
But Jen Sen Huang probably, I'm just guessing, I'm not trying to put words in his mouth, but he wouldn't mind if Taiwan rejoins with China because it would make well, absolutely it was.
But it's becoming harder and harder even for Western thought leaders to try to say that China is just a third world country that can never beat us or catch us.
China's leading in like 60 out of 65 key technologies for the world right now, including robotics and drones and rare earth metals extraction.
And China, as we talked about on Friday, China's got over double the aggregate annual power output of the United States.
The U.S. is at least 14 to 15 years behind China.
And that's thanks to the globalist carbon garbage.
That's the Democrats, push the climate change cultism, set us back 15 years is my estimate on a power grid infrastructure.
Now, to Trump's credit, he has always been pro-energy.
And that's critical.
We're never going to survive as a nation if we are not pro-energy.
We need pipelines.
We need fossil fuels.
We need natural gas.
If we don't have those things, we are done.
Actually, honestly, Alex, I think it's too late.
I think we're past the tipping point.
We can't build that infrastructure quickly enough unless the government stops censoring key technologies that you know exist, like low energy nuclear reactions.
I was about to go next.
Trump has signaled that he wants to release a lot of the secret technologies.
What's stopping him from doing that?
We're already innovated in many ways, not on chips, but with other free energy and things.
He should just innovate right now.
Because the entire control grid of our world, as long as we've been alive, has been based on scarcity, scarcity of energy, scarcity of cognition, scarcity of labor, scarcity of resources.
If you unleash the hidden technologies like zero-point energy and so on or cold fusion, low-energy nuclear reactions, then you end all energy scarcity.
Now, think about the implications of that in the Middle East.
If you end energy scarcity domestically in the United States, you can no longer justify the assertion of control of the Middle East through Israel as a proxy.
And you no longer have the dollar backed up by oil.
Well, exactly.
Then Saudi Arabia no longer becomes nearly as important as it is currently.
And then their purchases in the dollar would begin to decline.
Saudi Arabia, they know that's coming.
That's why they're racing away from oil.
Yeah, actually, I think a lot of Gulf states are investing in free energy technologies, understanding that's the future of our world.
See, Alex, this is happening at the same time that cognition is becoming incredibly widespread, incredibly low cost through AI, which is reducing in cost by about 40x every year or so, which is just extraordinary.
So you're about to move into a future where energy and cognition are both extremely abundant, but the U.S. is still holding back on the energy side of that through the suppression of energy technologies like cold fusion.
Which is why the globalist left did that to put China in position, but then China and the globalists broke up.
Why did the globalists, I know they're still double dealing, but why, would you say it was 20 years ago or China really never joined us?
Or I say the globalists as us, the West, but they're in control of us.
But 16 years ago, Xi Jinping breaks, five years ago, ends one-child policy.
Clearly, he's left them and really run away with the technology.
So that's what really discredits globalism just from an operable position, not as an intellectual debate about its morals.
Obviously, it's evil, that China double-crossed them or they double-crossed themselves.
So that overturns the whole paradigm right there.
Yeah, well, remember that globalists, their ultimate goal is to prepare Earth for a post-human future.
And one of the ways that they need to do that, an interim goal, is the total global control over human populations.
And they like the China model as the best model of surveillance and control, the social credit scoring system, etc.
They also hate the fact that Trump is laying down tariffs just by himself, which is disrupting the extraction.
I'm asking you, though, your view of the real world power players, the real blocs.
Is China really decoupled from the globalists or is it just partially?
I would say only.
No, they're not completely decoupled.
Not at all.
They are bedfellows, I would say.
I mean, China is its own sovereign nation, but in order to compete globally, it has to pay homage to some of the interests of what globalists control.
Sure.
So what's the pivot 15, 16 years ago?
What caused the West to claim and stop just whole hog giving China everything?
Well, starting from the recognition of China, mainland China in, I believe, what was it, 1971 or right around that time with Richard Nixon, then at first it was thought that China will just make the stuff that we consume and China will never be a competitive threat to the United States because we're America.
We're the brightest, smartest, most capable, most productive people in the world, which was true in the 1970s.
But what happened then, as you mentioned, 15 years ago or thereabouts, people began to realize that, wait a second, China is actually going to out-compete us.
And they're building out their industry that resembles the post-World War II industrial economy of the United States.
And China, it turns out that, you know, back in the 70s, a lot of Americans thought that Chinese were just low-grade, stupid people.
Turns out they're incredibly brilliant people and they are outperforming America in the sciences and engineering and so on.
And this is evident today with the open source AI models that are coming out of the world.
Well, plus, we've had a deliberate 100-year program to dumb Americas down.
So, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, with the chemicals, with the chemtrails, with the vaccines, which are lobotomy injections and bioweapons, et cetera.
Yeah, the American people have been dumbed down through a number of vectors.
And the point was, I believe the long-term goal was always to put China in the lead.
And that's where we are today.
But economically, Alex, there's also Triffin's dilemma is a concept that I don't know if you've covered it on your show, but Triffin's dilemma says that when you are the global reserve currency, the dollar, then there's so much demand for your dollars around the world that it will make your currency strong and it will gut your own domestic manufacturing because other countries will be able to manufacture more cheaply than you.
So that's why Trump is deliberately trying to lower the dollar.
Yeah, exactly.
You got it.
But I don't think that's going to work.
And really, the only way for the U.S. to reindustrialize, which Trump is trying to do, but I think it will fail unless we give up the global dollar hegemony, the dollar domination, and we join a multipolar world with other currencies and other settlement systems, which means that Trump would have to learn to get along with bricks.
And so far, he's not indicating anything.
Sure, I totally agree.
So we're going to have a collision course.
What's the timeframe?
Yes.
It's begun.
It's begun.
I mean, the tariff wars is.
This is part of the collision course.
Now, if the Supreme Court strikes that down, it's going to be much more difficult for Trump to do what he wants to do.
But I believe the tariffs are unconstitutional.
That's my opinion.
And I also believe they've been harming a lot of small businesses in America because of the destruction of the supply chains.
And they've created a business environment that is entirely unpredictable.
If you import products, how can you predict what's going to happen when Trump can wake up tomorrow and change his mind, right?
So we need stability in a business environment.
But most of all, we need, I believe, we need to refocus on America's competitiveness.
We have to radically reform the education system.
The teachers unions have destroyed public education.
The woke universities have destroyed our system.
They've dumbed down our people on purpose.
That's got to be radically reformed so that we have brighter, smarter, more capable people.
And then we can compete with.
Sure, but the timeline is too quick now.
So for those that are informed, they'll do better than ever.
For those that aren't, they're in deep trouble.
My issue is you can argue in an emergency.
And the way these deals have been done, Trump could do this.
We could argue it round or square.
But at the same time, what happens if they shoot down Trump's tariffs?
He's got some other ones he thinks that are constitutional.
I think it's going to be so discrediting.
It derails his whole plan.
And so I'm on the fence now.
I don't know if Trump says it's national security, which it is.
He's kind of made the decision now.
So you can disagree with the idea, but kind of once the train leaves the station, we got to talk about the ramifications of this getting shot down, Mike.
But I think Trump is making a critical strategic mistake in thinking that tariffs will automatically bring back reindustrialization of America.
That's not going to happen, no matter how high the tariffs are.
Now, these foreign entities that have pledged investments into the United States, my opinion is they're going to drag that out until Trump is out of office.
And a lot of those projects will never come to fruition.
Why?
Well, there's a company that tried to make sodium ion batteries in Michigan.
It was called Natron Energy.
And I was a big advocate of Natron.
They were going to make sodium ion here in the United States.
Well, they went bankrupt a couple of months ago.
Why?
Because you can't compete with Chinese manufacturing of sodium ion batteries domestically.
Why can't you compete?
Well, a number of reasons.
And among those, Alex, is the fact that the American people are sick and diseased and mass medicated because they're eating a bunch of processed junk food and pesticides and herbicides, the things that you and I have talked about for so many years.
And I remember when you were warning about all the atrazine herbicide in the food supply, which does turn the frogs gay, everybody attacked you for it.
And everybody deplatformed me for talking about why we need to stop eating junk foods and stop taking medications.
You got to have a healthy population.
You shouldn't be able to run a battery factory.
Yes, that's the point.
We're too sick.
We're too, as a country, we're too obese.
We're too diseased.
We're too cognitively impaired to be able to function in manufacturing.
That is a big part of it.
And so that's why I'm, and you can hear it in my voice, I'm frustrated with the Maha movement that's going in with big pharma, you know, pushing weight loss drugs instead of healthier eating choices.
You know, like people like me, we know how to fix health in this country.
There's a lot of us.
We know how to fix health.
You got to stop direct-to-consumer drug advertising for one thing.
And you got to turn around the USDA's food guides so that they promote nutrition instead of processed foods.
But that's going to cost a lot of money for big business.
Listen, I agree with all that, Mike, but at this point, it's epidemic.
I think the clock's ticked down so far here that all this is academic now.
I think the stage is set for whatever's about to happen.
No, you're right.
It would take a generation to fix America's health, a generation.
And it's too late for that.
And actually, it would take almost a generation to bring our power back online unless we unleash the censored technologies.
I agree.
So it's all, listen, the poisoning was on purpose.
Transferring the jobs to China was on purpose.
Poisoning, all of it was there.
And then you got leftist communists running around everywhere that hate the country.
Man, I tell you.
We're about to go through a collapse type of scenario.
I don't know if collapse is the word that everybody would use, but it's going to be catastrophic economically, socially, culturally.
There will be outbursts of violence.
Trump will be forced, I believe, to declare some form of military control over certain cities.
I think he's preparing for that.
And I think I will actually probably support that at the time because the left is going to be so out of control.
They're going to be just a- No, I totally agree.
But let's be clear.
You're a police state expert.
I'm a well-known police state.
You're more of a health expert than me.
I'm the police expert.
Folks, we didn't do this.
We don't want this.
The globalists want to bring us down with this.
If we don't, we're completely screwed.
And we have an anemic.
Oh, God.
He has a couple thousand soldiers, his rapid reaction force.
It's going to take in a real breakdown millions of soldiers.
He's going to have to mobilize the sheriffs.
They're going to have to call out auxiliaries.
They're going to get all the veterans into volunteer groups.
I mean, Mike, you're an expert on this as well.
I know you've got a lot of preparedness.
How many, how many paramilitaries and emergency workers will it take during a collapse, depending on the type of collapse, to even stabilize the country?
We'll be right back with Mike Adams.
Stay with us.
Now, a lot of people, I mean, you name it, national news, CNN, New York Times.
I mean, so much you can keep track of it.
It's every day.
But also a lot of patriot pundits and folks say, Jones was the guy against a police state.
Jones was the guy against the military domestically.
And now he's sold out.
Two completely different things.
I was told by the military and by senior police chiefs, like the San Antonio police chief, the head of the Austin SWAT team in like 96, they had the military coming.
Even the military is like, yeah, we're trained to take over, take the guns for Clinton.
We think this sucks.
What should we do?
They reached out to me because I was on a bunch of stations in Texas.
So I became an expert because Army intelligence out of Fort Hood came to me and they put me in touch with police chiefs because it turned out, and I wasn't sophisticated then.
I'm like, Delta Force wants to take over America because I'm like 23 years, 24 years old.
I wasn't blaming the military, but it was like, I didn't understand intelligence and stuff.
I got dropped right in the middle because I had a huge show.
I knew a lot of stuff with the Federal Reserve and, you know, basic stuff, the UN, but I, I'm like, because they would, they didn't tell you the whole story.
They're just like, here's this document.
This is going on.
You should be concerned.
And the media would spin it too.
Like, Jones is attacking the army.
It was actually the army telling me this.
Okay.
And even FBI agents would like deliver us stuff.
And we get an anonymous call.
We're running an illegal military checkpoint up here at I-35 today at noon in Temple.
Get up here.
And I'd have the comment line.
I'd be on air.
I'd tell my camera guy, Mike Hansen drive there.
And he'd go, it's weird.
An FBI agent pulled up, gave me this secret document.
Mark classified about it all.
They were doing it to get us to warn people.
And I didn't really demonize them.
I just didn't even understand it.
I was just somebody with a big show.
So they were shoveling me the intelligence because they didn't want to do national gun confiscation and all the fight the patriot constitutionalists and all that.
That was a plan when the globals were thinking about it under Clinton.
This is the Podesta plan now that's public that if Trump ever won election again, they would stir things up, collapse the economy, have a race war.
And then when Trump's forced to put troops on the streets, then they call him a dictator and a king and drive him out, which you've now seen.
So it's not like I even have an opinion here.
This is their plan.
Trump knows martial law is not good for hotels and golf courses.
That's not his bag.
But they're trying to push him into it.
The question is: will they able to set off a big enough crisis to get it done that then further stalls the economy, the stock market, and our attempted buildup to beat China?
Because it's not like this civil war will probably be successful for the communists, the left, but China's funding in and behind it to a great extent with BlackRock, because it will be way worse than the lockdowns and COVID.
Is that an accurate statement, Mike Adams?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
They want to provoke Trump into an overarching police state response and then call him a dictator and try to remove him from office, possibly through certain state-behind agents that are still in the Pentagon, by the way, that haven't been rooted out.
And there are some of those in the FBI as well.
But I think that effort's going to fail because once the left really launches its revolt against our country, and it's going to be regional too, Alex.
So I'm not saying there's going to be nationwide martial law.
It's going to be a lot of people.
No, it's going to be on the West Coast.
Minnesota.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And first it starts on the West Coast, then areas they control in Blue Cities, then the East Coast.
Well, exactly.
And I do not think, however, I do not think that U.S. National Guard units are prepared for the urban drone warfare that's coming.
And I think the best place to look right now is Ukraine.
Look at what happened since 2022 with the special military operation, how warfare has changed.
We know the cartels have got them loaded with hand grenades ready.
So exactly, the National Guard needs to be ready for that.
Yeah, drone warfare is what it's going to be.
So you roll tanks into a city.
It's not going to be very effective when the left is motivated to destroy those tanks.
And the left is for a couple of years building up now are handing out manuals on Maloff cocktail anti-tank moves as well.
Right.
Right.
I mean, look also what we saw in Gaza with the Palestinian fighters walking up to tanks and putting, you know, throwing bombs down the hatch or whatever.
I mean, that kind of warfare will happen in America.
And actually, you know what?
There's a very important story from thegrayzone.com that says AI drones used in Gaza are now surveilling American cities.
And 800, I'm reading from the article, 800 law enforcement agencies across America have contracted with this drone company.
And these drones are being used to surveil protests.
Pull it up.
I already saw some.grayzone.com.
There it is.
AI drones in Gaza.
That's it.
Now surveilling American cities.
Wow.
Right.
Now, even if you're listening to this and you're pro-Trump and you're thinking, well, Trump's not going to abuse that power.
Well, but the problem is once Trump sets the precedent, then of course, whoever else gets power, or even at the state level, you know, Newsom could say, well, I'm going to use our drones.
Let's just go beyond that.
We already had Biden and Swallows Well and Newsom say we'll use F-16s, F-18s on you.
So let's just be clear.
Here's the problem with AI and robots and computers.
Soldiers are humans.
You can't get a lot of them to do false flags.
That's why the globalists are paralyzed.
But even in a martial law scenario that they trigger, Trump will then deploy our own robots and our own stuff that can then be hijacked to attack civilians to blame Trump.
And then you don't have humans that can expose the new 9-11 false flag.
It can be programmed, do the attack, then have the drones wipe themselves and self-destruct.
100%.
And the advantage in drone warfare goes to the industrial centers that can mass produce them.
Now, think about U.S. history.
When, for example, the French came to our aid in the past.
What if this civil war sets off in California and then Newsom does a deal with China, the drone maker of the world?
China starts shipping millions of drones to the California, you know, the Democrat units to start launching drone warfare against Trump's troops that are trying to regain control over those left-wing cities.
So you could very quickly see how, you know, California could become a proxy location for a global conflict involving potentially China.
I mean, and by the way, if you're a new list here and you're thinking this is fantasy, Newsom was on TV two months ago saying we're doing the Western Alliance.
We're going on offense and the crowd all collapsed.
They know that's the movie Civil War and all the new movies, which are in the Podesta plan.
They're producing $350 million movies on the Podesta plan to pre-program it.
The average leftist, they've been caught on tape admitting this is the plan.
And they said the Weatherman back with Obama in the 70s with Larry Grafwald said, when we take down America with Clar and Pivot collapsing the welfare system, China will come to our aid.
And we have pre-placed Latin American communist gangs.
That's why they even made the movie Red Dawn in the 80s, because this is a real plan.
And now we're here, Mike.
Well, exactly.
And the trigger of this would be an economic crisis event in the U.S., after which I think Newsom and some of the other left-wing people that are practically calling for revolution right now, they would rise up.
And remember that Newsom did deals with China during COVID.
He sent a billion dollars to a Chinese EV company claiming that it was for purchasing N95 masks.
And then, to my knowledge, that billion dollars disappeared.
Nobody ever saw it again.
The mask never showed up.
It was some kind of a money laundering operation, which, of course, the Democrats routinely engage in.
But no one was allowed to talk about that in the media.
Well, imagine you're the talk next tower and you're a genius.
And I love talking to you.
I'm not looking for offensive stuff, but if we affect the battle space, people know what's going on.
The deciding factor if this kicks off is going to be people taking into their own hands.
And obviously, as populists and conservatives, we're not going to, we'll be on defense generally.
But a lot of people like Santa Claus have made some lists.
I don't think the leftist leaders understand that once this kicks off, it's open season, which I think is terrible.
But can you speak to that?
I don't think the globalists and their minions and their adjuncts don't.
I don't think they realize what's going to happen because they can attack our power plants and all that.
But when people are literally in the dark, they're going to know who did it.
I don't know how the Zuckerbergs who I challenged to come over to Trump, he least said publicly, should give up.
You think you're safe in your bunker.
Don't they understand what's going to happen once this goes down?
Yeah, for one thing, Silicon Valley could find itself in the middle of a war zone, which is going to, of course, disrupt AI research and all the tech companies, et cetera, Google, et cetera.
Although I think Google is one of the most evil corporations on the planet anyway.
But there's a book series.
I think it's called 299 Days.
I believe the author is Glenn Tate.
And that book series, which is it's set in Portland, Oregon.
But it's, I think, a very accurate depiction over about 10 books of what this kind of West Coast domestic warfare could look like, except it needs to be updated with robot drones and air drones, et cetera, and cyber attacks.
Let's be clear.
Not just Podesta, all their major war games center on the West Coast starting it.
Yeah, because that's where, and by the way, the economic destitution that's happening right now, which is going to get worse, this serves as a recruiting funnel for West Coast people because the more desperate the situation becomes, the more likely they are to have nothing left to lose.
as Joe Salenti says.
They have nothing left to lose.
They lose it.
And if you look at the University of Michigan, it's a consumer sentiment index, which has been run for decades.
It's now plunged, I'm reading, to 50.3, which is the second lowest number that's ever been recorded.
And that was for early November.
That number is likely to get much worse to an all-time low over the next few weeks or next month.
Consumer sentiment is horrific right now.
Sure, Trump's trying to prop it up with cheerleading and policies that have given up time would work.
Shouldn't he just come and put the cards out and address the nation and show who the enemies are and tell the big plan?
Because if the enemy was identified and their whole plan laid out like we're doing, I see that would make them back off.
I've learned when we get their plans ahead of time.
That's why they hate the show.
They've admitted that.
We hate what you do as well.
If they're presented with their battle plan, then they start suing us saying, who's giving you this?
What agency?
No, we reverse engineered it.
How's that, Hill Mary?
What else could Trump do?
Well, I think it's very difficult for Trump to level with the public that is not as informed as your audience.
So you and I can handle it.
Your audience can handle it.
No problem.
We already know what's going on.
But the typical mainstream media consuming American would be so psychologically disrupted by the truth that they would, there'd probably be mass suicides and they would cease to function.
So that's really not an option for Trump.
And that's why, you know, right now the White House is just gaslighting us.
Like, oh, it's a golden age.
The economy is great.
No, it isn't.
It's not great.
You and I know it, but some people are just going to go along with this.
But, you know, look, Scott Beset over the weekend, he gave an interview and he said it's actually looking bad now.
So something, something flipped with our Treasury Secretary to say that there's a risk.
Well, he was talking about if the shutdown continues, there's a risk of our growth being cut in half.
Apparently, that shutdown has been resolved.
I guess we'll see.
We'll see if that happens.
But that's only temporary till January.
And Alex, one more thing.
The food stamps, the 42 million Americans that are reliant on government food stamp handouts in order to feed themselves, think about how much trouble it caused just during this temporary disruption.
Imagine when the dollar collapses.
Imagine when there are no food stamps ever again because the dollar is worthless.
What's going to happen to society at that point when 42 million people realize we can't even, you know, there's no point in even waiting to get paid because the money's never coming.
So that kind of screams.
So imagine the EPP folks literally going and squatting in grocery stores with their kids and like eating, you know, the stuff, the total entitlement, they weigh like 500 pounds.
Can you imagine 42?
Let's play this video.
Start it over and hear it is.
Open the boss.
What did you say to me?
Getting on that.
Everybody get hanging on that.
She had four kids under the LDJ plan.
She gets money for them.
They're literally being taught to rob.
And just, this is so sad.
And imagine 42 million people like this.
That's what they're going to get.
They wanted to sit in here and eat donuts.
That's what they got.
You feel me?
Yo, y'all enjoying y'allself? So, Pentagon Studies, I agree with him.
In 15 days, 30, 40% commit suicide, the rest become cannibals.
So this woman doesn't know she'll be the donut on menu if society collapses, Mike Adams.
Well, as a food safety expert, I would advise people not to eat other people because they're toxic.
They have heavy metals.
They've got pesticides and herbicides.
It's like eating a giant bluefin tuna.
It's very toxic.
It's the worst.
And again, I mean, this is kind of satire here, but not really.
But you don't want to eat.
You don't want to turn to cannibalism as survival because you will become very, very ill if you don't.
I wasn't endorsing cannibalism, but I met a few years ago.
So this continues where we are.
But the point is, that's what the studies show it goes to.
Yeah.
I'm just saying that if you're in a survival scenario, you should eat rats before you eat people because the rats are less toxic.
I mean, I'm serious because I've actually tested like wild rabbit hair versus even my own hair or dog hair, whatever.
The wild animals are by far the cleanest sources of the colours.
That's why they were the toxic food chain.
So the more apex you are, the more toxic.
Well, right, because a lot of the, you know, the forever chemicals and so on are fat soluble, so they bioaccumulate in fat tissues.
And this is also part of the big problem why our nation is failing, which I kind of mentioned earlier, is that we have been inundated with all these toxins for so long.
And the corporate media has been all on board with it for so long, pushing vaccines, pharmaceuticals, pesticides, atrazine, glyphosate, all of it, GMOs, you name it.
And like only now do we have a HHS secretary in RFK Jr. who even has the knowledge that those things are bad.
And even then, his hands are tied to the point where there's very little that he can do, although things have happened.
The globalists admit in their own textbooks, like eco-science, that they did this to dumb us down and control us.
They thought China would work with them.
Now their own base to resist the double cross is retarded.
I mean, this is a disaster.
It's a disaster.
And on top of that is the very real AI replacement wave that has already begun.
And I noticed there's a lot of media pushback saying, oh, AI projects fail.
They don't work correctly, et cetera.
Well, they're failing.
Where they are failing is because the humans don't yet know how to use them properly, but that skill set is advancing rapidly.
AI is extraordinary in its cognition and its capabilities, as I've proven even with my own projects that I've done.
Oh, let me tell you, Grock and Chad GPT, when I ask it to be me, it literally sounds just like me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like our model trained on you.
Yeah.
Well, all I got to do is get your voice.
I mean, if you ever want to do this for fun on your show, but you could clone your own voice with a company like 11 Labs and then use our model to generate Alex Jones talking points.
And it would be awesome.
It would sound just like you with your text.
But of course, you know, we don't want somebody else to use your voice without your permission.
But it is a form of immortality, except they can erase it anytime they want.
That's why we need decentralized.
Well, that's why your 20, what is it, 24 years of your show was used to train our model that's already been distributed to tens of thousands of people.
So you've already achieved virtual immortality.
It's done.
Mike, tell us more time.
We'll take a few calls here, but you're taking over next hour.
What's on your, you sent me a whole list of topics, which I should have gone to.
Trump's administration is implementing $2,000 stimulus payment.
We already hit that.
The economy is characterized as an artificial economy.
The direct stimulus seen in the necessary measure to spur real super spending.
The government could expect control of the UBI funds.
We've got the situation.
It's the technocracy.
Yeah.
So, so what are you going to cover next hour?
Yeah, that's going to be my focus is technocracy, where when the American public become so desperate, there will be an effort to roll out a universal basic income of some kind.
And this $2,000 stimulus promise that Trump has mentioned, this could just be the opening chapter of it.
But whether Trump or someone else, the UBI funds will be controlled.
And what the government can do is.
That's universal basic income for those who don't know.
That's right.
The government can decide that you're only allowed to spend UBI funds with approved retailers or approved online vendors.
So they could say, Alex, for example, they could say, well, you can't spend the free government money at the Alex Jones store because we don't approve of the Alex Jones store.
But you can spend it on Amazon because Amazon is friends with the current administration.
We've had BlackRock and the WEF.
They've all said that's the plan.
They'll say, well, it's already at this warehouse.
We're going to let it go other places.
That cuts into resources.
And I can just see it.
The self-driving cars, the robots, Austin's one of the main testing grounds.
The perverting ingredient is a new virus and a new lockdown to, again, force adoption of the robots.
Well, yeah.
And I also think that a very likely scenario is a false flag cyber attack on the power grid to bring down the power grid in blue cities in order to, well, to destabilize them and to cause mass die-offs.
Because remember, the ultimate long-term goal here is to prepare Earth for a post-human future with very few humans remaining.
This has been the UN goal and the WEF goal for a long time.
And I think that all of this just accelerates that because what government can afford to keep hundreds of millions of people on a UBI forever?
You can't.
Exactly.
We're in greater debt than ever.
Let's kill UBI.
We'll take a few calls before I hand the baton to you.
This little bit of the segment and then the first five.
But Mike Adams is totally on target.
We're not trying to demoralize you.
We believe that you're just like us.
You want to know the truth.
But the point is we're not in the old paradigm now.
We've already crossed the point of return, the event horizon.
It's here.
Mike and I can finish each other's sentences because this is the real thing we're looking at.
General Flint, I can finish going back to the world you knew.
It's not going back to the way it was.
Never.
And I try to even tell my family that is informed.
They still, there's a normalcy bias.
And compared to my family, they're somewhat self-sufficient and good people.
Imagine that sad woman who can barely sit down eating with donuts like she's grazing or something.
You know, imagine her during this collapse.
I mean, my God.
You know, unfortunately, people like that will be the low-hanging fruit for the extermination robots.
That's where this is going.
But look, what I'm going to talk about next hour is how you can survive this and actually thrive and protect yourself.
This isn't, I'm not a, I'm not a doomer on this topic.
I'm a realist.
Billions probably will not survive this, but potentially billions can survive.
And what determines that is the choices that you make from here forward and your knowledge about what's happening.
So that's going to be my focus next hour, Alex.
Wow, let's go to Jonathan in New York.
What's around the corner?
Go ahead, Jonathan.
Hey, what's going on, Alex?
How are you?
I'm all right.
Go ahead.
Thank you for taking my call.
One thing I wanted to make mention is that I think we're having the right conversation now.
I think that Mamdani does play a little bit more of a role in this technocracy that we're going to be headed towards.
I think Mamdani and AI are bedfellows.
And the reason why I believe that is because we're here.
Well, Mamdani is obviously here to consolidate.
He's going to destroy.
He's going to consolidate by destroying and confiscating.
At which point he will then consolidate and we will all be on AI is intrinsically tied with welfare and UBI.
Well, that's right.
So if you don't follow every zoning rule and all the impossible environmental laws passed by Biden, they're going to take your property.
That is literal communism.
Yes.
And one thing that I just read recently, I am from New York, so I'm telling you from the hellhole that I await to be reigned by in about 50-some odd days.
But what's going on now and they're talking about is Mamdani and Governor Hochl are in conversations or in a cooperative effort for a key word, and that's data centers.
And these are data centers in New York State and data farms.
And that's where I believe that Mamdani and AI are here to usher in that technocracy in New York City that also pushes out a lot of the welfare and the bankers.
And everybody thinks, well, why does it have to be a good idea?
No, no, I agree.
I agree.
And all that investment comes in.
And then humans don't get energy, but AI does.
I'm going to come back in a minute and a half with Mike Adams' response to that.
We'll take a few more calls and Mike Adams takes over here today.
Then the war room, Harrison Smith, 3 p.m. today.
You know, I think the big final equation is the so-called elite, the technocrats, know that their plan is out of control, know they're getting the blame with at least enough of the population.
They don't get away with it.
And I think Trump's tried to offer an off-ramp to this, but because of different factions, there's no way to turn it off.
So I just look at all the different potential futures and they run from bad to worse.
And I don't want to depress people.
I just think people need to understand that the world's going to get more and more dangerous, Mike Adams.
You agree with that?
100%.
Probably for at least a decade is my guess.
Things are going to be horrific.
We're going to see a complete, well, we have to restructure what is the value of human cognition.
What's the value of human labor?
How does money even work?
We're going to see the collapse of Western currencies, fiat currencies, including eventually the dollar.
But a recalibration of what it means to have value and how is value distributed throughout society?
And also, what is the value of a person to the current system?
What's the value of a person to the government?
Essential or unessential.
So let me ask you then.
You agree with my statement, though, that the globalist plan the way they planned it isn't going well, but now it's still a runaway train.
Unfortunately, like chaos is easy for globalists to achieve.
So if they don't get exactly what they want, they will inflict mass chaos and bring the system down.
They're going to put pressure on them as the bad guys to get the blame.
So they stop doing chaos.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's why we need mass arrests of the traders, which still has not happened.
And I think, you know, Pam Bondi is sitting too much at the DOJ and needs to get moving on some of these mass arrests because a lot of these top traders in America, they are, of course, run by globalists.
These are the people who rigged the 2020 election.
No, I totally agree with that.
They should realize their failure, their system is the danger.
They should be less worried about, oh, what if the Democrats get back and put me in prison?
They should be more worried about all of this.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because this is really the end game right now that's being played out.
And this could be the end of the U.S. Empire, depending on which timeline Trump chooses or the people around him choose.
There are many timelines.
Like you just said, there are many timelines.
None of them are great.
There are no good, easy pathways out of this.
But there are some timelines that suck less than others.
And that's what we should be working to choose here.
But I don't see that happening.
Actually, honestly, I don't see even surrounding Trump.
I don't see that the people there understand what's happening yet.
So, we have to keep raising the alarm.
We have to keep educating.
We have to keep projecting what's happening and push them to fight back hard.
This is it.
This is really the do or die moment for the U.S. Empire right now.
Which involves the whole world.
Let's be clear, though.
I totally agree.
What we're saying is not our opinion.
If you study the globalists, they're all saying the same thing, but they think they're going to come on top.
Like, what we're saying is not our opinion.
So, is there any way to get the globalists to back off?
I mean, a lot of them kind of stepped over to the sidelines.
Well, you have to think about where is the leverage of those people.
Where is their leverage?
A lot of it's in their assets, some of it's in their power, so their reach.
And why is the world still listening to Bill Gates for whatever reason?
Why is Trump inviting Bill Gates to the White House?
You know, I mean, these are big questions.
Why is Mark Zuckerberg being treated as an ally rather than, in my opinion, the traitor that he proved to be during the rigged 2020 election?
He spent money to cheat and to destroy an election outcome in 2020, and he faces no consequences for that.
So, we have to bring back consequences.
We have to bring back the rule of law first in this country and stop cozying up to the corporations, including the vaccine companies that have been destroying America.
So, that's step one.
And sadly, I don't see Trump doing that yet.
Maybe he'll change, but so far, not looking good.
All right, but I agree with you, but you're going to come back and take over.
But imagine how bad it would come all.
They had a plan collapse already.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm glad Trump won.
Don't mistake what I'm saying.
I'm glad he won, but it's critical.
This is the last opportunity to save this nation, and he's got to do it right.
And that's lagging so far, in my opinion.
All right, Mike Adams takes over now.
Then, in about 55 minutes, the war room, Harrison Smith, share those live feeds, Paul Revere.
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