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Sept. 16, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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BBN, Sep 16, 2025 – FAKE FORENSICS EXPOSED! The FBI is pushing loads of fake evidence...
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You are currently living under a global IQ test to find out how easily they can use sorcery to put imaginary things into your mind and whether or not you can actually control your own consciousness.
That is the test that is taking place right now.
Welcome to Brighttown Broadcast News.
I'm Mike Adams.
It's Tuesday, September 16th, 2025.
And of course, we're all dealing with the heightened emotions and the rhetoric and the law enforcement announcements following the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And what we're actually witnessing is really incredible.
It reminds me of something one of my previous guests said.
They said that Trump was allowed to win the election because well, they needed a leader that would have support from conservatives to build out the technocratic state, the surveillance grid, like Palantir, that would go along with uh hate speech laws, which of course uh attorney general Pam Bondy is now pushing hate speech laws in America.
We'll get to that.
I'll show you that video here soon.
But that Trump would be, they said the Pied Piper that leads conservatives down the road to their own total enslavement under a technocratic state.
And uh sure enough, that's very much what what's happening right now.
There's no way to argue against that.
And you know how I have mocked leftists for all these years for believing delusional fairy tales, you know, like this silly idea that a man can become a woman, things like that.
Well, now the conservatives are, or at least a large number of them, not all, but a large number, are acting exactly like leftists, just swallowing delusions from the FBI.
Because uh Cash Patel is out there as the sorcerer, the the sorcerer from Valhalla, apparently.
Uh he's out there just spouting all of this this web of nonsense that people are believing, and they think it's real, and it's absolutely insane.
It's completely insane.
Um in fact, let's see, I want to play for you this video of uh Kash Patel talking about this note where I mean some people are describing it as a a a confession, and some people are saying, well, this is forensic evidence of a confession.
The guy's guilty.
Um really?
So listen to this video.
Listen to what Cash Patel actually says, and then tell me if this qualifies as evidence in any court of law, because it's really interesting.
Check this out.
Did he write a written note before uh before the assassination attempt?
That's what the governor said yesterday.
And what did that say if you could say that?
So what I'm able to say.
I'm sorry.
So what I was what I'm able to say is I I addressed it partially earlier, is that the written note we believe what did exist, and we have evidence to show what was in that note, which is uh, and I'm going to uh summarize basically saying I uh the suspect wrote a note saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm gonna take it.
That note was written before the shooting.
Um evidence of his existence, we now have learned existed before the shooting was in the location in the suspect and partner's home.
But we have since learned that the note, even though it has been destroyed, we have found forensic evidence of the note, and we have confirmed what that note says because of our aggressive interview posture at the FBI.
All right, what did you just hear?
What did you just hear?
Now I want you to think critically.
I know you do, because if you're my listener, you are a critical thinker, but most people are not.
What did you just hear?
You heard the FBI director say, a guy told us there was a note but doesn't exist.
And he said some stuff was in the note, and that's it.
Okay.
That's all he said.
But he used a lot of terminology that's very convincing to people Who aren't critical thinkers?
He said the note has been destroyed, so there is no note.
But he said we have forensic evidence of the note's existence because of our aggressive interview posture.
Like what are you talking about?
Aggressive interview posture.
Did you go Jack Bauer on the guy?
Did you threaten him until he, you know, admitted there was a note.
Like, tell me what you want me to say.
You know, stop the water torture or whatever.
Uh so Kash Patel is using this government double speak nonsense now.
You know, aggressive interview posture.
He couldn't just say we talked to a guy, you know, and then the guy said this.
But Cash Patel is saying that's forensic evidence.
So again, I ask you, is this forensic evidence?
Because all over Twitter and the internet or X, everybody's saying, this is a confession.
The note is a confession.
Now, when people say that, you realize they've already been cast under the sorcerer's spell.
What note?
What note?
Oh, the the note, the imaginary note.
So there's a magical imaginary note that has a confession.
The only problem is the note doesn't exist.
But everybody pretends it does.
All right.
So whereas the left says a man can become a woman, a lot of conservatives right now are saying that a note can be wished into existence by a spell cast by Kash Patel, the Valhalla king, who apparently has ties to the Norse gods, so he must have magical powers that come from other dimensions.
Maybe you know, from his brother Thor or whoever, right?
Or Loki.
Maybe, maybe his brother is low, maybe he's Loki.
Loki the deceiver, the illusionist, right?
Well, he is an illusionist because he's casting spells over the public to try to get people to imagine that there's a note.
There is no note.
There's no note.
He even says there's no note, but he says we have forensic evidence of the note's existence.
Well, what is that forensic evidence?
A guy told us something.
All right, so again, anybody can get anybody to say anything with the right amount of pressure or money.
So the FBI so far has proven it's only very, very good at fabricating evidence that sounds convincing, but actually isn't.
And I don't think this would stand up in a court of law at all.
You know, because the prosecution would say, Well, we have a note, and the note has a confession.
And the judge would say, Okay, where's the note?
And the prosecution would say, Well, we don't really have a note.
There used to be a note.
And the judge would say, There used to be a note.
How do you know there used to be a note?
Well, because a guy told us there was a note, and he told us what he remembers was in the note.
Oh, so you know a guy who says he saw something.
Okay.
That's the evidence?
Yeah, forget that.
That's not admissible.
That's not evidence.
That's BS.
Okay.
The next thing that the FBI is running around with is this whole, oh, there were transgender inscriptions on the bullet uh or the cartridges, the ammo.
Okay, and we've heard that for many days now.
Oh, transgender inscriptions.
And everybody's started to believe this is real, like they could imagine it in their own mind.
Yeah, I remember seeing bullets with transgender inscriptions.
The problem is it also doesn't exist.
Or at least we've never been shown any cartridges with any inscriptions that say transgender things.
So this appears to be also completely fabricated by the FBI.
If there were really transgender inscriptions, why wouldn't they show us?
Maybe somebody would recognize them and say, oh, yeah, I've seen those before.
That's you know uh the guy that lives next door, he's part of some weird furry group, and he he has those transcriptions or inscriptions.
Or he's got those symbols on a bumper sticker or something, right?
If the FBI was serious about this, they would release the photos of the inscriptions and ask for the public's help to identify the the great, you know, cabal of furries who we're now told are behind all of this.
Apparently it's some giant queer, like queer terrorism network or something.
Which, okay, it it might be.
It might be.
It's just that I don't appreciate Cash Patel rolling out all these claims without a shred of evidence to back it up.
You know, magical note, uh, imaginary transgender inscriptions that none of us have seen, and then there's the whole story with the gun with the rifle.
Oh, he he climbed up on the building with a rifle down his pants.
Yeah.
And remember yesterday I played a video for you.
He also had an extra change of clothes with him.
Like, this is starting to get heavy, all this stuff.
You got to carry.
I'm gonna change clothes and do a bunch of rifle work on the top of this building in the middle of a Charlie Kirk uh event.
Like, what?
And then I'm gonna change clothes again, and after I disassemble the rifle, then I'm gonna reassemble it, and then I'm gonna leave it in a cardboard box in the woods.
And you're like, where'd you get the cardboard box?
Oh, just you know, just I just walk around cardboard boxes that fit rifles, you know.
It's like what so you you've seen the picture of the rifle, right?
Is it's in a cardboard box.
It's like a cheap rifle box.
Where'd that box come from?
Did the FBI have it?
Does the FBI walk around with cardboard boxes?
And if so, then why are they showing us a photo like this is the rifle we discovered?
It's a cardboard box.
How is the rifle assembled?
If the guy was running from the law, you know, and then Cash Patel says that they they've used uh cell towers, they've got the ping location on this guy's cell phone, and he says in an interview that we think we even know who was using it, which apparently implies it's not the guy, it's not Tyler.
So who's using his phone?
I mean, there are so many questions here.
It does not add up at all, the official narrative that we are told.
Absolutely does not add up, but I'm not even trying to focus on on this topic, actually.
I'm trying to focus on the point that even conservatives believe delusions, okay.
Again, we mocked leftists for so many years for being stupid, yeah.
You're rainbow theory, fairy tales, you know, whatever you you think a man can become a woman.
Well, conservatives think that a note can be wished into existence by the FBI and that it's real, that it's evidence now that Cash mentioned it because they talked to a guy.
That's just as stupid as transgenderism.
I mean, it's really retarded.
And I see people in independent media, even uh even InfoWars is out there saying, you know, the assassin was part of a group.
Uh well, Alex, how do you know he's the assassin?
How do you know?
What you know, where's the conclusive evidence that he's the assassin?
Because I haven't seen a single picture of him with a rifle.
No video of him pulling the trigger, no video of him with a rifle on the roof.
You know, none of that.
No confession, no admission of guilt.
All we see is that he climbed up onto a roof and climbed off with no rifle and ran away, and it sounds like the perfect pats he set up to me.
Like, yeah, somebody paid him to jump up on the roof to do something, you know, film this or whatever, take a measurement.
And so he did it, and then that's how they framed him.
And now the FBI is just fabricating evidence and tainting jury pools all over the place.
You know, what jury pool is gonna be reliable now?
What jury pool has not heard any of this, especially in Utah, if indeed this trial goes down in Utah.
You know, everybody in Utah is familiar with this story, and Cash Patel's out there tainting the jury pool.
So I think that the FBI is running a risk of this whole case being thrown out, frankly, by a judge.
A judge is gonna say, you know, look, you you know, you catapulted these stories about inscriptions and about imaginary notes and who knows what else, and changing clothes And reassembling rifles, and you put all this out there, you tainted the entire jury pool.
Like this guy can't even have a fair trial, and you haven't even presented any actual hard evidence.
All you've presented is circumstantial evidence.
Like, you know, we heard from a guy who heard from a guy who said he saw a note that doesn't exist.
Like the judge could throw this thing out.
Yeah, even in a criminal trial.
I mean, I'm not predicting that's going to happen, but there's a risk that that could happen because of the mishandling of this.
Now, I want to be clear.
Whoever did this, I want them to be found.
I absolutely want the actual shooter to be found.
And I want the truth to come out.
But I want the person who's convicted of this to be the correct person.
Because we live in a country where law enforcement, sadly, routinely fabricates evidence.
The FBI routinely fabricates evidence to frame people.
Look what they did for January 6th.
Remember that?
So they use the cell phone data that identified all these people.
And then the FBI said, well, we now declare there was a virtual barrier that existed that you you couldn't see.
It was invisible, but there was a virtual barrier.
And if you cross that virtual barrier, then you were trespassing.
And because it was part of an insurrection, which also was a lie, that now you're going to be charged with you know 20 felony crimes and face 20 years in prison unless you admit guilt.
Just because you were standing in an area that the FBI retroactively designated to be trespassing.
Well, that's a fabrication of a crime.
That's what the FBI did.
And almost everybody who was with the FBI back then, it was only, you know, like three or four years ago, uh, most of those same people still work for the FBI.
So they're still fabricating evidence to get the guy, whoever they designate as the guy, which all across alternative media, they've said this is the assassin, and he needs to die.
He needs to, you know, be put to death, is what everybody says now.
How are you so sure that's the guy?
That's my question.
And now Dan Bongino says that they've got him on a suicide watch because they're afraid he might kill himself.
Yeah.
I'm afraid the FBI is gonna kill him because, you know, that's the perfect end to this whole thing, right?
Kill the Patsy.
Just like Lee Harvey Oswald.
Kill the Patsy, and then you know, the crime is solved and he's gone.
So just like Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, I don't think Tyler Robinson is going to kill himself, but I think the establishment wants him to die, so they'll just march in there and kill him and call it a suicide.
And then they'll fabricate a bunch of online messages and they'll fabricate, you know, threads on on Discord or wherever.
Because nobody's fact-checking the FBI.
The FBI just says anything they want, and nobody is fact-checking it.
Not Reuters, not AP, not independent media, not the pro-Trump media, not the radical left.
Nobody's fact-checking it.
They're just saying, uh, it must be true.
You know, Patel said it.
He can say anything.
Oh, we found a bunch of messages where they they were all gonna get together as furries for a July 4th furry festival.
And at the July 4th furry festival, they were friendly furries, so friendly to each other.
And there was the foregone conclusion that the furries were gonna fire up the 4th of July, and they were gonna threaten Trump or whatever, you know.
I mean, it's just so ridiculous.
They can make it up anything they want and call it evidence, but that's not evidence, okay?
So I know I've made my point over and over again, but it's shocking that we live in a country where the mob has lost its mind now, and there's a mob on the left, and there's also a mob on the right, and neither mob is capable of rational thought, and both mobs are totally delusional, and both mobs are completely filled with hatred towards somebody.
You know, the mob on the left has hatred towards you know, Trump, hatred toward like white people, especially white men, hatred towards Christians, you know, hatred towards gun owners, hatred towards America.
Uh, and then there's the conservatives that have hatred towards, you know, Palestinians, right?
Hate towards transgenders, hatred towards anybody that's LGBT.
And JD Vance hosted the Charlie Kirk show, and J. De Vance just piled on to the hatred, basically just declared that we're gonna we're gonna go after these radical leftists, and we are we're waging a war in America.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but we're waging a war, we're gonna go after all their NGOs and all their groups, and you know, he's not wrong.
The radical left is a terrorist organization.
I've said it for years.
I said it before it was cool to say it, you know.
I said it under Biden.
And it was obvious then.
And yeah, the NGOs are all dirty slush fund operations to funnel money into left-wing terror groups, and these left-wing terror groups, guess who they're run by?
Yeah.
Uh I'll give you three guesses.
CIA, Mossad, and MI6.
Those are your three guesses.
Which one of the oh, all of the above.
Yes, that's the correct answer.
All of the above.
Because the CIA, Mossad, and MI6, they know that the only way they stay in power is to keep creating terror groups.
Could be ISIS in the in the Middle East, could be Antifa domestically in America.
And there's groups in Great Britain also that are you know controlled and run by MI6, etc.
Even Hamas was funded by Israel, by the way.
So of course they create these groups.
Why do you think Antifa is so well organized?
Why?
Why do you think they have training?
That's almost as if they were trained by special forces.
Oh, because they were trained by special forces.
That's why.
They have comms gear.
Why do you think they all wear masks?
So that you can't identify them, obviously.
So look, this is always the way it goes.
These radical groups, yeah, they're funded by organizations within our own governments in order to create uh chaos, to cause anarchy, to have something for the government to fight against for the purpose of the government rolling out more restrictions on liberty, targeting the people for more surveillance in the name of security.
That's right.
And right on cue, we've got Pam Bondy now calling for you got it, hate speech crimes all across America.
Let's let's listen to uh Pam Bondi, the attorney general, explain why we have to have hate speech laws and we have to criminally prosecute people who are guilty of hate speech, which is a term that the left came up with.
And the left said hate speech was anybody who criticized transgenders.
Remember that?
Uh-huh.
And if you said anything against transgenders, oh, that was bad.
You got deplatformed, you were called transphobic.
Or if you said anything against uh uh black person, then you know you were automatically racist, like if you criticize Obama, oh you're racist.
Well, now guess which group you can't criticize?
Oh, that's right.
Israel, yeah, you you got it.
So now the hate speech laws, which are really the Noahide laws, are about to be rolled out to criminalize criticism of Israel, and Pam Bondi has just announced it.
So check out this video.
There's free speech, and then there's hate speech.
And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything, and that's across the aisle.
So you got that?
She says, we will absolutely target you if you engage in hate speech.
And she says that's across the aisle.
So there you go.
Now it's confirmed.
That's what this has always been about.
Is passing hate speech laws, which of course, Israel has been lobbying all of Congress, other than you know, a few members who refuse APAC money.
And Israel, of course, controls the entire Trump administration, controls Bon Gino, controls Patel, controls Bondi, controls Trump, you know, all of them.
Bessent, Lutnik, the whole group, all of them.
All controlled by Israel.
And what Israel is going to demand is hate speech laws, so that nobody is allowed to criticize any Israeli actions, including genocide, crimes against humanity, engineered starvation or famine, or assassinations, bombing leaders in other countries, like they just bombed and killed the entire cabinet of Yemen.
And they assassinate people in Iran, they assassinate people in Lebanon, they bomb people's homes, they bomb apartment buildings in Gaza and Lebanon and Yemen and you know, obviously Iran and other places.
But soon, if you mention any of that, Pam Bandi is gonna target you, and she's gonna arrest you and put you in handcuffs.
That's what she just said.
And she was responding to the question about that from the interviewer that are we gonna start putting people in cuffs?
And Pam Bandi said affirmative.
Yeah, we're gonna target you, we're gonna go after you.
So then the question is, and by the way, notice that that's the opposite of what I've called for.
I've called for the guarantee of freedom of speech.
I've called for finding big tech platforms if they don't allow freedom of speech.
I think we need more free speech, not less.
We need to counter the left-wing lunacy with more reason-oriented speech.
The problem is that most of us who are reasonable people, we've all been banned and silenced, and those algorithms continue to this day.
And so I've said we need a Charlie Kirk Free Speech Act that would make it illegal for big tech companies or other platforms, universities, etc., or even government agencies to selectively censor based on viewpoint discrimination.
That's gotta end.
But nowhere did I say that we need to start, you know, locking up leftists just because of their speech.
Now, I have said that we need to remove them from being school teachers, for example.
We need to remove them from positions where they control public speech or they control the narratives.
So I totally agree that we have to remove them from these positions of society.
They're just, if you're a radical leftist, you're not allowed to be a school teacher.
Why?
Because you're influencing the minds of children.
And in Texas, by the way, a hundred school teachers have just been fired.
I think their licenses have been stripped away because those hundred teachers were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
And some people would say, oh, well, that's cancel culture, you're canceling the left.
I have no problem with that at all.
I say those, you know, vile teachers, uh, they have every right to express their views on social media, but not to teach our children in public schools.
So I have no problem that their teaching licenses are stripped away for that behavior.
Again, that's not cancel culture.
We're not canceling their speech.
We're saying that they're not allowed to influence and shape the minds of our children, because their minds are so twisted, the the teachers, their minds are so twisted that they actually pose a danger to the mental health of our children.
Just being a teacher.
You know, that that's how dangerous they are.
In addition, it's being rumored that, although this hasn't been confirmed yet, but it's rumored that Elon Musk fired some huge number of uh Twitter employees.
I don't know if that's true or not, For sharing a meme that was also celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
Um, if that's true, I I agree with that.
I mean, why would you want those people in your company anyway, right?
So, yeah, fire them.
Probably don't need them anyway, because AI is going to replace them in terms of coding skills.
So maybe this is just an excuse to get a bunch of people out of the way and fire them with cause.
Who knows?
Now, there's there's something else.
You have you have Kash Patel weaving his sorcery and convincing people that there's been a DNA match.
So we got the guy, there's been a DNA match.
Except that's not what he said at all.
So Kash Patel, he gave an interview yesterday with Fox News, and he said, quote, listen carefully, quote, I can report today that the DNA hits from the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody, period.
What?
Did you hear the word match in there anywhere?
No, not at all.
You heard the term positive processed for the suspect in custody.
What does that mean?
That's some weird double speak language, right?
Positively processed.
Well, I run a mass spec lab.
And so I know all about, you know, sample prep and queuing samples to be processed.
And to me, this sentence just says that the DNA samples have been prepared to be processed.
But the test hasn't even been conducted yet.
That's what this says to me.
Because again, Cash Patel did not say that the DNA is a match.
And by the way, I don't even trust it if he did say that, because you know, using PCR, which is what they do here, they can get a DNA hit on anything.
They can fabricate a DNA match.
And that's probably what they're going to do in the next day or so.
Then they're going to say, oh, we have a DNA match.
But you see, right now, everybody online is saying, oh, Cash Patel said it's a DNA match.
The guy's guilty.
You know, but that's sloppy thinking.
Number one, he didn't say there's a match.
But secondly, even if he said there's a match, all he's saying is that the DNA on the towel and the DNA on the screwdriver are the same.
And that they are the DNA of uh Tyler.
Well, so wait a minute.
Notice he did not say that there's any DNA on the firearm.
Notice that there's still no photo of the guy with a firearm.
So if you just say, oh, well, we have a screwdriver and a towel that are a DNA match for this guy, that's not an admission of being an assassin, is it?
Because they could have got this towel from his apartment, right?
And notice the photo of the rifle doesn't have a towel, does it?
So did they remove the towel?
If they remove the towel, did they do so under the rules of evidence handling and chain of custody?
I doubt it.
I think they just picked up the rifle and put it in a cardboard box, put it back on the ground and pretended like that's the way they found it.
This towel could have come from anywhere.
And just because if the FBI can prove this guy had a towel and a screwdriver, does that make you an assassin?
I mean, I have towels and screwdrivers.
Does that mean I'm assassin?
No, of course not.
Everybody owns a towel and a screwdriver, I'm pretty sure.
Right?
Do you own a towel and a screwdriver?
Among other things.
And by the way, I don't I don't even believe in the DNA forensic analysis, anyway.
It's there's so much BS in forensic evidence.
It's unbelievable.
For example, and again, I run a lab.
I run an ISO accredited mass spec laboratory.
I've done so for 12 years.
I know how these labs work.
I know inside and out.
And I know that a lot of the drug testing kits, for example, that the FBI relies on, they're so fake and so bad, they'll give you false positives on all kinds of things.
Like the marijuana testing kits give you a false positive on, you know, chocolate or oregano or all kinds of things.
Same thing's true with like meth kits and cocaine kits and other like drug testing kits, they give false positives all the time.
There's all kinds of things that can set them off.
You know, like cold medicine or whatever.
And then on top of that, this whole area of so-called ballistics matching, it's it's a complete hoax.
I I covered this, I think yesterday, but it's completely made up.
There is no such thing as a bullet that can be matched to one particular barrel.
Doesn't exist.
And you know why?
Because when the bullet leaves the barrel, the barrel doesn't put a fingerprint on the bullet.
There is no unique barrel fingerprint that is imparted onto the bullet.
Doesn't exist.
And if you think about it logically, you would realize it doesn't exist.
How could it exist?
I mean, how is that even possible?
Given that it things are exploding in there and it's accelerating at high speed.
Like, how could the bullet be matched to the barrel?
And I know some of you say, well, it's the barrel's got rifling grooves in it.
Yeah, of course it does.
But all the rifling grooves are all the same on all the barrels for that rifle.
And for those of you who are accomplished rifle shooters, you know that's typically described as a twist rate.
So you take a standard AR-15 barrel and it's got a twist rate of like one in seven or one in eight, or in some cases, like one in nine, and the twist rate determines the spiral spacing of the rifling grooves, okay.
But even then, with the higher twist rate, it's still the same number of grooves.
It's the same number of grooves.
And there's again, there's nothing unique from one barrel to the next.
Like if you take a hundred barrels off the barrel manufacturing line, and you fire a hundred bullets through those hundred barrels, there's no way in hell you could match up those hundred bullets to the correct barrel from which they were fired.
If you try to, your results would be no better than chance.
No better than chance, because it's just completely random.
But almost everybody in society, maybe even you listening to this, believes because you've watched too many stupid movies and TV shows and stupid CSI episodes.
You know who I'm talking about, those of you spend five years watching CSI and you believe all their bullshit.
You know, it I'm telling you that because of movies and television, most Americans think that you can match a bullet to a specific barrel, like a fingerprint or like a DNA test.
And I'm telling you, it's a complete hoax.
But like no such matching exists.
It does not exist.
It's not, there's no scientific method for matching them.
I mean, there's there's just there's not some unique ID.
It's not like a QR code is like lasered onto the bullet as it passes through the barrel.
Nothing like that.
It's not like you know, the serial number of the barrel isn't imprinted onto the bullet.
Okay?
That's stupid.
But believe me, when the FBI says, and they will, probably, they'll say, oh, we found the bullet, and then we ran the forensics, and they're gonna say the bullet matches.
Believe me, everybody on X, everybody on social media goes, the bullet matches, it's the bullet, it's a match, you know.
I'm like, you people are all retards.
There's no bullet matching.
There's no bullet matching.
Like any bullet fired from any similar barrel would look exactly the same under the microscope.
There's no bullet barrel matching.
Okay?
Doesn't exist.
And I know some of you in law enforcement might even be thinking, but but but we convicted people with that.
Yeah, you did.
And it's all false.
You convicted the wrong people with that.
And you see, this is what you got to understand.
That forensics in law enforcement is not designed to determine the truth.
It's designed to convict the guy that you already know is guilty because you assume it.
Understand what I'm saying?
Let me say it again.
Forensics is not designed to determine the truth.
Forensics, all the tests, the drug tests, the urine tests, the ballistics tests, the DNA tests, you know, they can all be faked.
Many of them have no basis in fact whatsoever, like ballistics bullet matching.
But this whole gamut of testing is designed to convict the person that law enforcement has already decided is guilty.
And since we live in a society where everybody's tricked by science, people believe in science.
And then there's an expert witness that gets up there and tells you some BS story about how, oh, we can look at the grooves, you know, we put the bullet under the microscope and we can match the grooves.
No, you can't.
You're full of shit.
You can't every bullet has the same thing on it from a thousand different barrels.
Are you kidding me?
You can't match the grooves.
But they claim they can.
But people are totally brainwashed by forensic science.
And because the average jury member doesn't understand it, it's like, what is DNA?
You know?
Oh, what ballistics?
Well, the expert said it was it was real, must be real.
The expert said so.
You know, and they believe it, and then the expert witness gets paid 100,000 to show up and lie.
And then, oh, guilty, guilty, the guy could be totally innocent.
How many times have innocent people been thrown in prison because of uh fake forensics?
And the answer is it happens every day.
So here's a problem.
Our justice system is totally broken because number one, judges believe in fake forensics.
They think bullet matching is real.
It's not.
Uh attorneys believe in fake forensics.
And uh so do the jurors.
And everybody, actually, everybody believes in fake forensics.
Because you have to be well educated to know that it's fake.
You have to be well educated in laboratory science, and uh very few people are.
So look, let me just cite some things for you here, because the in 2009, the National Academy of Sciences, the NAS, issued a report about the forensic analysis of uh you know ballistics.
That report concluded that, quote, sufficient studies have not been done to understand the reliability and reproducibility of the methods for ballistics matching.
And also that in 2016, the president's council of advisors on science and technology report called PCAST, they also reached the same conclusion.
They said the current evidence still falls short of the scientific criteria for foundational validity.
Got it?
There's no foundational validity.
All right, in addition to that, in 2017, from the National Association of Attorneys General, here's a story.
The presidential council issues a report arguing that ballistics testimony should not be admitted as evidence.
Why?
Because it's all fake.
That's that's why it's all fake.
Now, what's interesting about this report is that it actually looked at seven different types of so-called evidence, forensic evidence that's admitted in the courts.
Uh, number one, DNA analysis of single source.
Uh, number two, DNA analysis of complex mixture samples, which would be the DNA of multiple things mixed together.
Number three, bite marks.
That's when you know you've been in a bad fight when you have bite marks.
Uh, number four, latent fingerprints.
Number five, firearms identification, that's the ballistics matching.
Number six, footwear analysis, and number seven, hair analysis.
And this report finds that out of these seven things, only two of them are scientifically valid.
And that's the single source DNA and latent fingerprints.
All the rest of it is bullshit.
Hair analysis is bullshit, firearms identification, ballistics matching, bullshit, bite marks, bullshit.
Sorry, you bit yourself.
Anyway, it's all BS, except for those two.
So again, they're arguing that evidence of hair analysis and so on shouldn't even be able to be entered as evidence in a court of law.
And I agree with that.
Okay, and then if you go to Scientific American, there's an article from May 25th of 2022.
The field of firearms forensics is flawed.
That's a lot of Fs.
Says the matching of bullets to guns is subjective, and courts are starting to question it because of testimony from scientific experts.
So it turns out that again, uh the ballistics matching is complete BS.
And Scientific American says, quote, contrary to its popular reputation, firearms identification is a field built largely on smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.
It says, A few studies of firearms exist.
And those that do exist indicate that examiners cannot reliably determine whether bullets or cartridges were fired by a particular gun, which is what I've been saying.
Firearms identification must adhere to consistent and evidence-based standards.
Absent such standards, the likelihood of convicting the innocent is too great.
But there are no standards.
There are no standards at all.
It's all completely made up.
And later in that article, by the way, in Scientific American, it says that under certain conditions, the error rate of identification is 35%.
And under some conditions, it skyrockets to 52%.
That's right out of the article.
So if you have an error rate of 52%, again, it's essentially no better than chance.
So if I if I have five rifles, let's say, and I fire a hundred bullets, and then we collect all the bullets, and I hand them to you and say, okay, which five rifles, you know, like for each bullet, assign it to the rifle from which it was fired.
You couldn't do it.
Even with all the microscopes in the world, you couldn't do it because again, it's all BS.
And then finally, in 2023, the Maryland Supreme Court ruled that there is no DNA of a gun that can be found on the bullets that's being used to convict hundreds of people.
The Maryland Supreme Court ruled that ballistics evidence is not supported by science.
Yeah, because it's all BS, like I said.
Let's see.
I'm reading from an article on WUSA9.com.
A big part of the case, this was involving the DC snipers, was a microscopic analysis of bullets and fragments that examiners said proved that a Bushmaster semi-auto assault rifle fired the shots that killed 17 and wounded 10, etc.
But such science is flawed, according to Jeffrey Gilarin, chief of the forensics division at the Maryland Office of Public Defender.
And he cites a study called Ames 2.
They found that over 50% of the time, a second examiner came to a different conclusion on the same evidence compared to the first examiner.
You got that?
So, you know, two guys are looking at the same bullet.
50% chance They disagree.
See?
That's what I'm saying.
And then there was another ruling out of Chicago in 2023.
A Chicago circuit judge, his name is William Hooks.
He was the first judge in the country to bar the use of ballistics matching testimony in a criminal trial.
The trial was called Illinois versus Ricky Winfield.
And they were going to call this forensic firearms analysis expert to say this bullet matches this gun.
But attorneys with the public defender's office requested a hearing to determine whether there's any scientific foundation for the claim that a specific bullet can be matched to a specific gun.
And the judge ruled that no, there is no scientific basis.
It's all bullshit again.
Anyway, the bottom line, as you can see here, is that a lot of the so-called evidence that is being presented right now from the FBI in particular is completely made up.
It's all fiction.
And then a lot of the categories of evidence that are likely to be presented, such as mixed DNA evidence or ballistics firearms evidence, is complete quackery.
There's no scientific basis for it whatsoever.
And not only have state Supreme Courts ruled that, but you know, really sharp-minded scientists who have scrutinized it, have come to realize that yeah, it's completely subjective.
There's no rigorous scientific approach to ballistics analysis or you know, bite marks, hair analysis, things like that.
And I've talked about this for years, but I I found that you know very few people actually seem to understand this because they've been watching CSI, they've been trained by Hollywood, you know, movies and TV shows, and it's just assumed that with a microscope you can match a bullet to a barrel.
You can't.
You actually can't.
So you know, realizing this, and I didn't know this, you know, until I don't know, the last decade or so, when I got involved in laboratory science, and I began to realize how much of the other science out there is completely bogus.
You know, like PCR testing, total fraud, right?
Uh CDC flu testing.
Oh, you have the flu, complete fraud.
Virology, total fraud.
You know, in infectious diseases from a virus, it doesn't exist.
I mean, you'd be amazed at how much of the stuff that people believe is actually completely false.
Most people live it in a dream world.
It's um it's a complete fabrication.
You know, I did a whole song on that actually, a music video.
You're living in a dream world, and it's time to wake up.
I think I'll play that at the end of this podcast today.
But most of the things, well, I can't say most, but but many of the things that you think are true just ain't so, as the famous quote goes.
I forgot if that's a Mark Twain quote or whoever, it says, you know, the the real problem is the things that you think are true that just ain't so.
And most people walk around with these beliefs in their head that that are just utterly false, but it's a popular delusion because literally a sorcerer's spell has been cast over you through authority figures,
through governments, through TV, movies, fiction, whatever, to make you believe in things that are completely not real, like transgenderism or forensic ballistics matching, you know, or PCR tests or virology as uh an infectious contagion.
None of that's real.
None of that actually exists at all.
And yet people live their lives and they make critical decisions about their lives based on these complete delusions, and Cash Patel is just casting out more delusions.
He's like a sorcerer, he's just casting spells to deceive people.
And I wonder, too, how many innocent people have been convicted over the last you know 50 years From fake evidence, a ballistics matching evidence.
Oh, we found a bullet, and then this expert said it came from your gun.
You're like, what you talking about?
You know, but then the expert gets up, testifies, and the jury's like, oh, it sounds good, you know.
Plus, you know, the guy's black.
He must be guilty because there's a lot of racism, obviously, in you know, jury trials, obviously.
Or if you're a if you're a white guy and you're in a black town, you might have a like an all-black jury, and maybe they don't like you, you know.
So there could be all kinds of racism.
I'm not saying it only goes one way.
There's a lot of racism out there.
But there's also, you know, you think about like this the Utah jury, if there's a trial for this guy, Tyler, and then the court says, well, he's a transgender, he's got a transgender boyfriend.
Well, you basically got a jury of Mormons.
What do you think they're gonna do to a furry tranny person?
You know, they're gonna convict based on the flimsiest of evidence.
They're gonna convict.
So it doesn't even matter what evidence is presented, as long as it's just a it sounds good.
Oh, yeah, there was a note, yeah, there was a ballistics match, there was a DNA match, there was this, that none of it's real, but it all sounds good.
So they're like guilty.
That's the way our justice system works right now.
It's bad.
And frankly, you know, AI would be better than human jurors right now.
Seriously, AI would be would be better than human judges.
AI would be better than cash patel at the FBI.
We should replace Cash Patel with AI Patel, you know.
Seriously, it would be better.
Like a lot of these positions would be better with AI just running a reasoning model instead of having all these like stupid brainwashed people who just get their science information from CSI or whatever on TV.
They're not qualified to judge evidence of any kind.
They don't even know what the word evidence means.
They think uh just because a guy said something that that's evidence, that that's forensic ev no, it's not forensic evidence.
It's it's testimony, but that's different.
That's not physical evidence.
All right, so the important thing in all of this is to maintain extreme skepticism.
That's why I said this is a global IQ test, okay.
And during COVID, the IQ test was are you gullible enough to inject yourself with a depopulation by a weapon?
See, that's that's the question.
Now the question is, are you dumb enough to believe the government's fake science over who killed Charlie Kirk?
Or you know, any other topic, frankly.
And it's really the same test.
It's the exact same test because during COVID, you know, it was, hey, we're the authorities, we're the scientists, you have to believe in science, and if you believe in science, you're gonna take the jabs over and over and over again.
And that was a an IQ test to eliminate a large number of people on planet Earth.
And now it's the same argument.
Oh, if you believe in science, if you believe in the forensics, if you believe in the FBI and the government, then you're gonna believe what we tell you.
And if we say there's evidence, then there's evidence, even if we make it up, you know, like you have to imagine in your mind the note that we're imagining in our minds.
The note that we say once existed, but no longer exists, but now it exists in your mind.
See, that's sorcery, folks.
That's spell casting, and that's what's going on right now.
And you have to be immune to the spells.
Remember, I've described my job is to be a spell breaker.
That's what I do.
I break spells.
That's what I'm doing today, breaking the spells.
I'm even anticipating the spells they're gonna cast on you about ballistics.
You know that's coming.
So I'm pre-breaking the spells of tomorrow, today for free.
There's no you don't even have to make a reservation for that.
There's no advanced payment necessary.
You get it all for free.
So again, think critically, don't believe anything they tell you, don't believe whatever BS science they're gonna roll out.
Oh, it's scientific.
Yeah, really?
Is this like the Fauci version of ballistics measurement?
Yeah, sure.
We don't believe that anymore.
Just literally do not believe anything the FBI tells you, or anything the government tells you, or anything the DOJ tells you.
Your default position should be that they are completely lying, or they're full of bunk, or the whole area of expertise that they are citing, you know, like virology or ballistics or you know hair matching or whatever.
It that you should assume the entire field is completely made up, because that's usually the case.
You know, and God forbid, I hope this is never used against you.
Like you realize that you can be a completely innocent person, just sitting at home minding your own business, doing nothing.
FBI can show up one day and say, You're guilty, you shot somebody.
You're like, what?
I've been sitting here watching TV.
I didn't shoot anybody.
The FBI says, oh yes, you did, and then they arrest you, and then they they seize a gun from your home, and then they take the gun and they take the bullet from the scene, and then they say, ah, it's a match.
And you're like, what?
I haven't shot that gun in five years.
They're like, no, no, no, it's a match.
You killed the person.
They can make you look guilty, and they can take a towel from your house, and then they can say the gun was wrapped in that towel, and they can say the towel is a DNA match for you.
Oh, now you look double guilty.
And then they can say that they talked to your you know, husband or wife or whatever, who said that you once had a note that said something, but the note no longer exists.
But they said at one time it said this certain thing.
And you're like, what are you even talking about?
You're just making all this up.
Well, that's probably how uh Tyler feels right now.
He's like, what is going on?
They're just making everything up.
Now, again, I don't know for sure, maybe more conclusive evidence will come out.
But my point is that we don't have that evidence yet, and yet everybody's already decided that he's guilty.
Well, everybody could decide one day that you're guilty based on nothing, based on nothing.
They can fabricate the DNA evidence, they can fabricate the ballistics evidence, they can fabricate with deep fake AI videos, they can fabricate scenes of you climbing off a roof.
They can fabricate cell phone ping data, they can fabricate online messages, they can fabricate social media.
Of course they can.
They can make up anything they need to convict anybody they want.
And that should be frightening, because we don't live in a country with a functioning rule of law or a functioning justice system or even a functioning rational mind.
What they say is science is complete fiction.
What they say is evidence is all made up.
So none of us are safe under these circumstances.
If they want to arrest us and convict us for something for any reason, oh, you spoke out against you know, Netanyahu, or you spoke out against Biden, or or you know, whatever, they can just make up anything they want to convict you.
And it'll be very convincing to a jury, especially a grand jury, and you'll be convicted.
And that's that's the way they roll.
It's got nothing to do with what's real or what's true.
It's got everything to do with who they want to put away.
And right now, they want to put away a bunch of leftists who possibly, you know, many of those leftists really are insane lunatics, but I still insist that we have to follow the rules of evidence.
I you know, I can't agree with just rounding up leftists because of the way they think, or even rounding up transgenders just because of the fact that they're transgenders.
That it's not a crime to be crazy enough to think you're the opposite gender.
That is not a crime.
And it shouldn't be a crime.
If people want to, you know, dress up in women's clothing or whatever and pretend to be a woman, walk around high heels on a bra.
That's there's nothing illegal about that.
It's like, eh, go for it, but just you know, don't wag your butt in my child's face, right?
And also you shouldn't be a school teacher where you're messing with the minds of kids.
But if you want to go cross-dress, you know, in your home or at your private furry party, that's your own deal.
Go for it.
Whatever you're into, you know, as long as it's just don't involve children, obviously, and just keep it to yourself.
I don't care.
So I I do not support rounding up people because they're gay or lesbians or trans or leftist or liberals.
I do not support rounding them up.
That's how you end up in an authoritarian police state.
It's a dangerous precedent because one day that'll be turned against everybody else.
You know, or the opposite group.
One day it'll be everybody who's a Christian.
You see?
I know you know this.
You're way ahead of me on this, but I'm just trying to point out where this is going.
All right.
Also, Candace Owen says that uh Charlie Kirk was offered 150 million dollars to back away from asking any questions about Israel and to ban Tucker Carlson from his TP USA events, et cetera.
Candace has been reporting on uh Bill Ackman and uh also uh Max Blumenthal wrote or co-wrote an article on The Gray Zone, which is a very good site to check out.
Max Blumenthal has something to say about this.
He was on with Judge Napolitano and uh I want to play this for you.
It's about a three-minute clip.
I think it's worthwhile.
And Max uh Blumenthal kind of breaks it down here.
This is his reporting.
So I'm just gonna leave with this clip uh before we go to my interview for today, but check out this clip.
It's kind of interesting.
Here we go.
Following my September 12th report, which provided background about the pressure, the mounting pressure that Charlie Kirk was under from pro-Israel forces from Netanyahu's cutouts in the United States.
I gathered more details.
Uh the piece, it hit like a sledgehammer.
It really caused uh a lot of I think it spoke for a lot of people, particularly within the conservative movement, which is changing uh among the youth on the question of Israel.
And more people more people started coming out and more people started talking, and people were talking to me, and these were people who had knowledge of a tumultuous, stormy meeting held in the Hamptons during the first week of August,
convened, according to multiple sources, with knowledge of this meeting, intimate knowledge of this meeting, by the billionaire ultra-Zionist financier Bill Ackman, who's close to Netanyahu and his kind of network in the United States.
Charlie Kirk was summoned along with an array of young, sort of vapid, very avaricious conservative influencers who seem to be sort of in Israel's back pocket to set a very pro-Israel tone for this meeting.
And Charlie Kirk was, according to one source, hammered by Ackman and others for allowing Israel critics, very prominent conservative voices like Meghan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, or uh the anti-Zionist Jewish comedian Dave Smith to appear at his events.
And actually, Charlie Kirk was planning to host many of these same figures again in December, and he had just added to uh his TPUSA major um I think it's called America Fest in December, the premier critic of Israel in Congress.
I didn't say Republican critic, I just said premier critic, because that's what she is now.
Marjorie Taylor Green, which really reflected his shifting views.
And Ackman, according to multiple sources, had this meeting to basically bully Charlie Kirk into submission.
Charlie Kirk walked away, according to one person, feeling like there was an attempt to blackmail him.
He refused uh any offers of funding and also refused the offer to travel to Israel and meet with Netanyahu, which Netanyahu disclosed in the wake, the immediate wake of Netanyahu's death.
He talked about this letter, but he didn't say whether Charlie Kirk refused or accepted.
I've learned since that he refused.
All right, so there you go.
Some very interesting developments about uh the these claims of uh pressure on Charlie Kirk and offer of money, which Charlie refused, and some people believe that that's why he was um you know targeted to be pushed aside.
I don't know, you can you can draw your own conclusions.
Uh I haven't talked to Max Blumenthal.
I've never spoken with him.
I don't know his sources, but I will tell you that the you know the forensics are all BS because that's an area where I have a lot of knowledge, actually, because of my lab experience.
So anyway, keep all that in mind.
Now, gold has hit a record high yet again.
It was like 3680.
Let me check gold right now.
As I'm recording this, it's currently one o'clock in the morning.
And so the overseas markets are probably trading gold, and it is currently yeah, it hit 3683.
Oh my goodness.
Wow, gold at 3683.
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Unreal, huh?
Unreal.
Silver has doubled since I started recommending it in the last few years, it's doubled.
And gold has doubled.
These metals are going to be the way to preserve your assets.
It's very clear to me.
Now, again, as a disclaimer, I'm not your investment advisor, so do your own research, etc.
Everything has risk.
But I believe the biggest risk is staying in dollars.
I believe treasuries are going to collapse.
I think the dollar's going to collapse at some point.
Uh I I think that clearly the commercial real estate market is collapsing.
I think residential real estate, I think we're looking at another subprime collapse, shaping up also in the auto industry.
Auto uh loans are collapsing.
It's bad.
So gold and silver, in my view, are the way to uh have like a like a life raft, you know, an escape boat from the sinking Titanic.
Uh also the you know, the Fed is going to meet soon, and many people believe they'll do a 50 basis point rate cut, which would be a half a percentage uh rate cut.
If so, you know, gold is gonna skyrocket.
I I mean, I think that's my guess.
But they might only do a 25 basis points uh rate cut, and maybe gold won't move that much.
I don't know.
But clearly a lot of central banks around the world are buying gold and they're buying silver.
And the people who have a lot of money, the people who are connected, they know what's up.
That's why they're not they're not loading up on treasuries, they're not stockpiling dollars, they're stockpiling gold and and silver.
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All right.
Now gonna play today's interview.
I'm actually not sure which interview we're going to play.
Uh, but I'll tell you the two possible ones.
It just kind of depends on what my editor has ready.
I've got a decentralized TV episode for you.
Interviewing Paul List, who wrote an amazing book called Mount Doom, and it's about how the rise of AI is actually fulfilling a prophecy told by J.R. Tolkien in his Lord of the Rings book series, and how AI is the eye of Sauron, and it's the beast system that threatens to destroy humanity.
So that interview is coming up.
If not today, probably tomorrow.
But I've done another interview with uh Daniel Eschelin, who interviewed me recently about AI and about simulation theory.
And uh Daniel Estulin does interviews uh in two languages, he does them in Espanyol as well as English, but of course we did ours in English.
Uh but I'll be playing that interview for you either today or tomorrow, one or the other.
And it was a really fascinating interview, so I think you'll really enjoy that.
So uh stay tuned and enjoy the interview, and I'll be back with you tomorrow.
And in the meantime, watch out for fake forensic evidence.
Yeah.
Okay, take care.
*music*
I woke up feeling fine today, as my deep sleep visions fade away.
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I brushed my hair and grabbed my clothes.
I checked my phone to see who knows if me I claim to be really exist.
If all this is forsaken, the future's there for taken.
Rejecting what's inside my head, I choose the void instead.
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Don't believe everything you see well.
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It's time to wake up.
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Let my imagination run away.
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If all this has a meaning, the simulation screaming, soul's invention meets its end, and then it's born again.
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And it's time to wake up.
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Dream anything you wanna be well.
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All right, Todd, are you ready to bring in our guest today?
I am because he's gonna be precious.
Okay.
Clearly that they were just gonna eventually we're gonna promote a machine that would ultimately imitate us in our mind.
Now you have algorithmic medicine, and the machines are gonna wipe out the human doctors just like that.
They don't have anything to do with humanity.
They'll just join together.
And then probably in about a nanosecond, they'll decide that nope.
Humanity's just inefficient and it's in our way.
The man's gotta become the man again and lead and lead their family away from the machine.
So the ring is AI.
The Sauron is AI.
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Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on Brighton.com, the free speech video platform.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, the founder of Brighton, and I'm joined today as always by my co-host, Todd Pittner.
Welcome, Todd.
Great to see you again.
Great being here, Mike.
Thank you.
I always look forward to our recordings.
And uh this week is gonna be fantastic.
It's gonna break break people's bra.
I I can't wait.
Um, just because I have a personal connection to this person, meaning that it has something to do with my daughter.
It'll make sense later.
Okay.
But but I'm really fascinated by him.
Well, are you a fan of Tolkien?
I am a fan of Tolkien.
Um, you know, I I really really really enjoyed the Hobbit.
Um my attention span, uh, I guess didn't really embrace the Lord of the Rings.
It was just I don't know, maybe it was when it was really popular.
I was uh, you know, uh playing football and track and basketball and all of that stuff, and I just wasn't a uh a a voracious reader like that.
But uh it it's it's an amazing piece of work for sure.
Well, yeah, uh clearly.
And um, I mean, I I enjoyed The Hobbit and then Lord of the Rings, although the book is very long and laborious, uh, especially in the early pages.
But I remember when I was younger too, there was uh someone gave me as a gift a national lampoon uh parody version that featured uh dildo baggins.
And it was it was a funny little short book.
It was just mocking everything from the Lord of the Rings, you know.
Oh, God bless the after party, dildo bagging.
Uh that's great.
Yes, you know, or dildo tea baggins or whatever, whatever that was.
But you know, the we we're always gonna have a little bit of humor.
But anyway, on a serious note, I mean, our guest coming up here has a lot of very important information for humanity because his book called Mount Doom, it says it's the prophecy of Tolkien revealed and it's a prophecy about what could be the end of humanity and the rise of AI dominance.
Uh so it's a big warning.
Kind of a big deal, you know, the end of humanity.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Does that mean will will we still have our show if that happens?
I'm pretty certain we will.
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, we can who's gonna stop us, Mike.
Come on.
The machine the machines.
I mean, uh I have my dog here, Roadie, and we can have like Roadie versus Terminator.
Yes.
If the Terminator comes in, Roadie goes after the Terminator's leg.
Yep.
And then I shoot it in the power supply.
Yes.
That's right.
I hit it with the hatchet, you know.
Yep.
We could take down a Terminator.
Right when you're escaping from LA or using the knife.
All right, I'll tell you what, before we get off the rails, let's just bring in our guests.
How's that sound?
There we go.
All right, here we go.
All right, Todd, are you ready to bring in our guest today?
I am because he's gonna be precious.
Okay.
Our guests, everybody.
Let me give out his website again.
It's read Mount Doom.com, and our guest is Paul List, who's the author of this Mount Doom, the prophecy of Tolkien, uh revealed, or Tolkien, some people say.
Welcome to the show, Paul.
It's an honor to have you on today.
Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.
Thanks a lot for having me.
Uh, we we're so much looking forward to this conversation.
You know, we're fans of your message and fans of Tolkien's work.
Now, uh to start with, do you pronounce it Tolkien or Tolkien?
I'm from the United States of America, so I say Tolkien.
Tolkien, okay.
We'll go with that wrong there.
Yeah, okay.
Well, we're not we're not the we're not that crowd.
Yeah.
We're like the all-American boys uh Florida and Texas here.
Okay, so there we go.
Okay.
Uh, but welcome to the show, Paul.
It's great to have you on.
Now tell us about this book and your work and what you know what this is all about, because I see the subhead here, the battle for your soul.
You're talking about the real battle, the not fiction, but Tolkien speaks to truth.
So uh give us an intro, please.
Well, Tolkien uh saw very clearly through his what a lot of people don't realize that Tolkien actually was recruited by the British government to be part of a top secret uh code cracking team called the government code and cipher school in 1939.
He was the world's leading philologist, which is the science of languages, so he was recruited to where he worked uh at Oxford as a professor of English literature, um, to be part of this code cracking team to crack the German's Enigma machine uh in advance of World War II.
And there on staff was none other than uh the famous code cracker mathematician Alan Turing.
Wow.
And so he actually trained with Alan Turing for three days there after COVID cyber school.
And then he they offered him a great job and he was very patriotic given that you know he had already been injured and served diligently in World War One, but he decided no, he didn't want anything to do with it.
He didn't tell them why, and he left and he went on to write The Lord of the Rings, which is a sequel to The Hobbit.
Um I figured out very rapidly that the reason that he didn't want to participate was he realized that first he realized it it had little to do, if anything, with language, because it was really a cipher, which these machines were very complicated.
And from one machine set up a certain way, you type it in and go out on the radio or what whatever.
And the guy would, like Morris code, he'd receive it and type it in, and that his machine would be set up the same way and it would come out in the German language.
So it really wasn't.
It's a math problem, not a linguistics problem.
It was recognized right away.
This is about pattern recognition, statistics, probability.
Right.
Yeah, it's the it's the realm of the statistician mathematician.
So he would have just been wasting his time.
But more important, I think what he saw there was really what they were going to do.
They were just going to per uh invent and create a more powerful machine than the Enigma machine.
And Tolkien being a very, very heavy skeptic of machinery and technology in general, um, he didn't want any part of just making another uh more powerful machine.
And when he realized it was going to actually start to encroach in the human thought process, as Alan Turing's uh uh very famous paper, 1936 paper, where he literally invented the digital computer on paper.
That paper was uh on computable numbers with an application to the Inkskydex problem, where he just basically replaces piece by piece and state by state of the human uh computer process, because we have to remember that the computer back then, up until about 1960, was a human being.
So he just replaced that with mechanical um devices and come up with uh the ability to imitate the the computation process.
So Tolkien saw very clearly that they were just going to eventually we're gonna promote a machine that would ultimately um uh imitate us in our mind.
And then it was that was really proved out in Alan Turing's 1950 paper, uh computing machinery and intelligence.
Now we have gosh, uh Todd and I have so many questions for you, but the Turing test is the famous test to uh previously believed to indicate when a machine had achieved uh intelligence.
Uh the Turing test turns out to be a very bad test for intelligence because uh pretty much all the AI engines that exist now can easily pass the Turing test.
Sure, yeah.
Um but I wanted to bring that piece of history in.
Um Todd, I know you you you always do such great research on it, I guess as well.
Do you you want to jump in here before I unleash a slew of questions?
And I'm I mean, we've got so much to talk about.
Sure.
Well, just to start with the fact that you've written a wonderful book and I've done a little research on that.
And I'd like to frame the AI crisis, if you don't mind.
Uh in Mount Dune, which is your book, uh, you frame AI not just as a tool, but as an actual oracle.
And can you explain what you mean by this and why you believe AI represents something far darker than just smart machines?
Well, there I would say that the the term smart is much more uh appropriate than intelligent, because smart, the other word for smart is clever.
And these machines are not intelligent.
They don't understand anything.
There's no possibility of understanding.
They have no idea how to conceptualize.
Human beings do that, and we do it by nature, it's part of our rational soul, so it's automatic, it's intrinsic to us.
So when we see something imitate imitating that, we have a tendency to trans uh or transfer that attribute of intelligence to that other that machine, and it's not intelligent.
We need to get that firmly in our in our square.
What I meant by Oracle, and I don't believe I use that term in the book, but but I did in a press release.
Um it's been going on for quite a while.
These machines, part of their training process, and it's all according to Alan Turing's paper, 1950 paper on uh computing machinery and intelligence, he redefines intelligence to make it nothing more than imitation.
And his whole uh uh uh proposal was that if we can create a machine that a human interrogator can't tell if he's talking to a person or a machine, then who are we to say it's not intelligence?
And that's really in a nutshell what he said in the whole thing.
Well, that's why it's a bad test, right?
Even in the AI realm, they don't consider the Turing test to be of any significance.
Well, unfortunately, a lot of people, most I would have to just speculate here that probably the vast majority in my experience of those involved in artificial intelligence and computer technology in general aren't really that concerned with the spiritual nature of reality.
That's true.
If they consider it at all.
So they're there, they're, you know, this all comes from Descartes's, you know, the Cartesian mindset of dualism that he he actually him and Bacon before him, Bacon, they both had their versions of dualism.
And it was to actually basically reject Thomas Aquinas's substantial unity, where the, you know, this is after the Reformation and half of the Christian world walked away from the church.
And all the institutions of higher learning, which by the way were all universities, which is Greek word, Catholic is a Greek word for university.
Oh, they were all Catholic.
So they walked out from underneath the church and and basically, I mean not basically, completely turned over all the property and the authority of the church to the state.
And that was a huge mortal, seemingly mortal injury to the Western world along with the Eastern schism in the 10th century.
So I mean uh we we the these ideas and where this comes from is is rooted in the bacon uh Descartes version of the rejection of the scholastics.
They rejected scholastic philosophy saying it was just about big words and great for intellectuals at cocktail parties, but it never gave us anything tangible.
It never gave us money.
It never gave gave us wealth it never gave us comfort it never gave us eternal life it never gave us all these material things that obviously Aristotle points right out in damn near his first page in metaphysics that that's not what philosophy is about.
Philosophy doesn't deal with those things.
That's the realm of practical wisdom not philosophical wisdom.
Yes.
Yeah so um so the the they rejected the scholastics they went wholesale in for goods uh bacon spent the last portion of his life trying to invent imitate gold and it was all about imitation um and I call it the age of attributism where we forgot about essences and we just look at attributes and that's led us into this domain where most people don't understand that the machine is a machine essentially it's a machine.
But it's actually might inter in what might uh might imitate a human being but the essentially the human being is human not a machine.
But here's what's really interesting and this is why I love having you on and love having this discussion because you and I and and Todd all of us we are people of faith and we believe in humanity we believe in human divinity and we understand that machines have no souls and machines can never be human.
But what I see in society is humans doing jobs where they act like machines.
And then those jobs such as being in an Amazon fulfillment center, restocking shelves at a grocery store or a so-called journalist just retyping a press release that came from a corporation that's a machine job that can easily be replaced by a machine because there's no humanity in it and much of human society human jobs even medicine surgery it's all been homogenized.
It's been algorithmically homogenized into one thing that's no no longer human.
You don't have the country doctor that goes out and visits you and has a relationship with their patients.
Now you have algorithmic medicine and the machines are going to wipe out the human doctors just like that.
They're already doing it surgeons and whatnot the robots are already home in surgery and the surgeons just monitoring screen you know across the right or prescribing drugs.
A doctor you know a doctor is just an elaborate pharmaceutical vending machine in many cases.
Well, that can be done by a machine.
Easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, this is, we can talk about that later, about making ourselves far less susceptible to being replaced by pulling away from the machine and making sure that we cultivate virtue and we cultivate competency.
We cultivate human competency.
Wow.
Those are areas that the machine's incapable of.
And that's really lacking in Western culture today, competency.
It's been beaten right out of us, thanks to the Cartesian enlightenment, which there's never a worse word.
word for a for a for a movement right nothing enlightened about it's very very dark dark dark um all these innovations and crazy concoctions of of competing I've called it, I believe in the book called it little more than at the age of intellectual masturbation.
And where they all gave each other license to, you know, show their intellectual junk off.
And uh just uh really, really, really deeply perverted the Western world.
And let's face it, the West leads the world.
So as the West goes, the world follows.
And um, so uh, but hearkening back to you know, with with with Aquinas and the and the enlightenment, they broke away intentionally, broke away from uh the higher metaphysical, because there's three basic sciences.
There's qu quantity, which is all of math and geometry.
There's uh physics, which is motion, which is physics, and then all the various forms of motion, chemical, electrical, whatever, and then there was being the science of being itself, and that's metaphysics.
So we have measurement and we have movement, but what the heck is moving and measuring?
And those basic essences of being is the realm of metaphysics.
They did away with that, they didn't see any use in it.
They focused clearly and strictly on the empirical realm, what we can taste, touch, smell, hear, like all the rest of the animals.
And then threw out the mind and the soul.
They absolutely threw out the soul.
They the only connection that the soul had in any capacity with the body, including the brain, was in the penal gland in the brain.
And it was like the soul, uh, Descartes describes it as like a charioteer, and the body is like the chariot.
And he, you know, um, he he like a puppet.
Okay, where Thomas Aquinas said, no, the human being is a true individual substantial unity, a unity of the substance of the material and the immaterial, and their joining creates a substance of its own, a unique substance, the human being, and that human being bridges the material and the immaterial, the animal and the angelic realm.
We are the only ones, the only created beings that bridge that gap.
Animals don't do it, they stay soundly in the physical realm.
Angels don't do it, except for when they come to bring God's messages or whatever.
They stay soundly in the angelic realm, but man, man is in both realms.
So what the enlightenment did was pave the way for atheism.
Of course, it opened up the Pandora's box of Darwinism, which haunts us, you know, severely, and points us in the direction of transhumanism as the natural end of our of our evolutionary process.
We're gonna, you know, join with machines.
Um I want to talk about transhumanism coming up.
But Todd, uh, next next question is back to you.
Yeah, actually, I kind of want to go back to Tolkien and uh just kind of comment on something.
Um up until the age of 40.
Well, I grew up Catholic, but once I went to college, I put the church in the rear view mirror.
That'll do it to you.
Yep, yeah.
Even in Catholic college, that'll do it to you too.
Enough, enough midnight mass incense, never again.
Um, and but but so you know, uh the world was really just about me, and uh I didn't think about God or anything until I had a friend when I was 40.
He gave me the book Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis.
And I read that, and there was a it'd call it a God wink, a god moment, a god book.
But that is what I would attribute brought me to Christ.
And what I have learned ever since, it was the I think it's the best book on Christian apologetics because I wanted to read it because I had real questions about God's existence.
And C. S. Lewis in that book Mere Christianity, he intelligently unpacked everything so that it was accessible to me, and I could go, ah, I get it.
But as I then took a deeper dive into uh C.S. Lewis, because he just fascinated me.
I learned that he was very, very good friends with Tolkien.
Absolutely.
Right.
Can you unpack that a little bit?
Well, yeah, they were both taught, you know, they were both uh teachers, um, and they were they were they were both uh they were part of the inkling club called the Inklings, and they used to write poetry and back in the day when you could, you know, write poetry and share it with your adult friends and maybe eat bacon and drink beer and smoke a cigar, and you know, they got together and they were and they were all very intelligent, very bright, very creative.
Tolkien was, I don't think there's any doubt was the most um he was the uh probably the leader of the group, followed probably very closely by C.S. Lewis.
And uh that influence, that influence with with Tolkien ultimately converted C. S. Lewis to Christianity.
He didn't come all the way home, but uh, but he was close.
But um, Tolkien's perspective, we have to understand a lot of authors that try to figure Tolkien out, they'll always say, Oh, Tolkien was a devout Catholic, and then move right on and never even touch on that.
And it's like he's not, he was, but he wasn't a devout Catholic in our sense in this time of this new Sonatal church that they're they've foisted upon us um after Vatican II.
Um, he saw that coming very clearly, uh, and he gives uh indication of that in his mythology.
But he was very much a traditional, original 2,000-year-old, the 1800-year-old Latin to traditional Latin mass, the one that the FBI is all over and colonists, terrorists, and and the one that the globalists hate because it is the absolute cornerstone of Western civilization.
So they attack what they they attack, and it's also our closest experience and our closest means of joining with Christ, because, like it or not, I'm just gonna throw it out there because I'm here to tell you the truth.
The Eucharist is the living body and blood, soul, and divinity of Christ, because God doesn't give us symbols, he gives us the real deal.
He told us he would be here forever, and he was right, and he is, and they attack that.
So to bring that down is the essence of bringing down Western civilization.
So the relationship with J.R.R. Tolkien and and C. S. Lewis was, I think, very beneficial for both of them because they were really on an intellectual even playing field, and they could really bounce ideas off of each other, and they did.
They they bounced ideas off of each other all the time.
Um, I don't know how familiar you are with uh C. S. Lewis's literature.
I mean, probably you've read the Narnia series and and whatnot.
Those those are great.
That's the kind of allegory that Tolkien didn't like because it was too obvious.
Okay.
Um, but it was it was very, I mean, I loved it.
I read it to my kids, my son.
I mean, I loved it.
But I think that uh uh C.S. Lewis is really came out to play in his ability to communicate in literature with his uh space trilogy.
I don't know if you've read those, but his space trilogy is actually really good.
Um that's uh let's see, Out of the Silent Planet, Pallandria, and That Hideous Strength.
Great books, and they're very science fiction type, and uh way ahead of their time.
But they all got there a lot of influence from uh from David Lindsay uh and Jules Verne and these Victorian writers.
So they they they took a lot of that stuff and that style and that approach, and it served both of them really, really well.
But Tolkien didn't, he said, and a lot of people say, you know, oh, Tolkien hated allegory.
He didn't say he hated allegory, he said he cordially dislikes allegory, and he liked he dislikes the type hint hint, the type that C. S. Lewis used, like in Narnia, that was too obvious, and it dominates the reader's mind, so they really can't think of anything else.
Well, nobody can say that Tolkien wrote something that dominated the human mind so much that they can't think about any other interpretation.
There's been all kinds of other interpretations, but none of them have really actually come to any definitive conclusion in what he actually gave us until now.
And by God's grace, he picked me uh most unworthy and most unlikely.
Uh that's that's what God does.
Uh so show us some leg, educate us a little bit.
What did he do?
On the on the mythology?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, Tolkien, the Middle Earth is the material brain.
Okay, it's not this world.
I'm gonna show you a map.
It's in my book.
I'll show you a map of what by the way.
While you look for your map, I want to let you know you just gifted me something wonderful.
Now, now I wrote it down.
Now I'm gonna adopt into my repertoire.
If there's somebody I just really can't stand, I'm just gonna tell him I don't hate you.
I just cordially dislike you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
That's perfect.
So this, let's see if I can put up there.
This is a diagram of the old Victorian age called um phrenology.
It was kind of like a beginning of neuroscience, and where they claimed that certain areas of the cranium and areas of the brain were responsible for certain attributes and psychological um uh like reason and and your emotions and your virtue and all this stuff.
So that's the map that he started with, and that is Middle Earth.
Okay.
Across the sea in the immaterial realm is called Amen, and that's the realm of the angelic spirits called the Valar or the powers.
And scholastic philosophy tells us very clearly that the powers Of the rational soul are the faculties of the rational soul, and human beings have 14.
We have the vegetative powers that we share with the plants, which are nutrition, growth, and uh and generation.
And then we have the interior senses powers, which are memory, sense, memory, uh, imagination, and cognitive sense.
And then we have the five exterior senses, which is our snows, you know, smell, um, hearing, touch, taste.
Uh, and all of those off to the side are two others, which are the concupiscable, the concupiscables, which is concupiscent, not the fallen type, and the irascibility, and those, and those fourteen make up the powers of the rational soul, and they fit exactly.
For instance, and Tolkien was a great humorist.
So he you, for instance, the people that know the Sumerillian, this is the Silmarillion pre-history legendary to the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings.
One of the mighty Valars called Orame, and he wrote a big horse and he had a mighty horn.
Well, Oro May is a play on the word aroma.
So his mighty horn is his nose.
Oh, okay.
So, and then he ties that in too.
One of Fionore's sons, which is the classical education of the trivium and the trivium and the quadrivium.
Uh rhetoric.
The the his education and ed rhetoric followed Oromay's horn.
So the rhetorician was prone to snobbery, okay, following the following the nose.
No, okay.
Little things like that.
He was Tolkien was just such a master humor.
And he was so deep in in history and his and his and his and his and his Aquinian, Aquinas uh philosophy and theology, and all the enlightenment thinkers.
So what he did was he wound up making this person, a representative person, he named Arta.
And within Arta is Middle Earth, and across the sea, which is the realm of the feelings, because we have feelings, the uh Ulmo, which is the master of the sea, is the realm of the feelings because we have feelings in this world, and we have feelings in in our immaterial thoughts too.
So he bridges the gap.
Not Oro May, uh, Ulmo does.
So we've got this complete substantial unity, body, material brain, and our irrational portion that's in the angelic realm in the land in the realm of the angelic immaterial realm.
And ultimately, this soul, this person, we're representative person named Arda experiences from beginning to end as a human being, as a representative human being, the whole history, present, and future of the Western world.
And it's about the what happens to Western civilization, including in the second age when with the downfall of Numenor and the division of the separating, the absolute asundering of the two realms, that's when we fall into Descartes' dualism.
And it becomes the age of the machine, and that's the rise of Sauron.
And Sauron with the one ring is artificial intelligence, and the one ring is binary code.
It's ones and zeros, and it's digital, goes on your finger.
The all-seeing eye of Sauron, the age of wearables and surveillance.
Yeah, the all-seeing eye, the eye itself is right out of Alan Turing's 1936 paper on computable numbers with an application, these guidance problem.
Yeah, it's the scanner eye of the computer looking for ones and zeros.
Uh-huh.
That's exactly on the tape, because back then it was a tape.
So it's the same thing.
Well, and I just want to mention, you know, AI will it's the perfect technology for mass surveillance of humanity.
It's the ultimate machine.
It's the beast.
And I'm telling you, it's the biblical beast.
It's the biblical beast.
I want to ask you more about the prophecy, because that's that's the subtitle of your book, the prophecy of Tolkien Revealed.
You're kind of hinting at it there.
Uh, but we're watching a decline of Western civilization right now.
We're watching assaults on Western civilization, churches being burned in France, uh countries being overrun.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um part of the plan.
And the decline of values, the decline of morality and integrity and competence, as you mentioned.
But let me bring in something else here.
And uh this is gonna be a bit of a longer question, so thank you for your patience in advance.
And but I want you to understand where I'm coming from.
I live on a ranch.
I'm a hands-on guy.
I'm a I I actually like to live in a low-tech situation.
I buy old tractors built in the 1970s so I can work on them.
I run tractors, I take care of chickens, and I I rescue donkeys and I build fences with simple tools and things like that.
But at the same time, then I build advanced AI tools that I consider to be pro-human because we we retrain them.
We we alter, we mind wipe the open source models, retrain it with a pro-human knowledge base, and then put it out there for free for decentralized knowledge.
Now, so I'm I'm both in sort of the low-tech world and then the cutting edge high-tech world, but not with an anti-human or transhumanism motivation.
But in the process of doing this, and this is my question, I have seen, and I'll give you the specific example, I've seen what I consider to be absolute intelligence from these machines.
And earlier you said they're not exhibiting intelligence, so let me run this by you and ask for your interpretation.
The early language models, very clearly they were just word completion models, you know, statistical word completion.
I get it.
That I don't consider that intelligence.
That's just clever imitation.
Uh it's, you know, yeah, imitation.
But what I did yesterday, for example, is I had, let's say, 3,000 lines of Python code.
I take, I take my Python code, you know, it's all written in a computer language, and I paste it into an AI engine, and I ask the AI engine, tell me in plain language what this code does.
And then it it processes it and it gives me back an answer that is a very precise, but also concise uh description of what this code does.
Uh like in plain language, like, oh, it does this, it moves these files here, it does this.
That is not word completion.
That is like a structural understanding and even an internal simulation of the code, so that the AI engine had to think about what the code does and then translate that into my language and then give it back to me.
Isn't that intelligence or some level of it?
Or what what would you say?
It's very good imitation of intelligence, but it doesn't understand anything about what it's doing.
It's very good at finding the the end that you're looking for and then devising by running it through its process and its training, and they have to be trained, as you I'm sure you know.
Um we we'll get back to that because I want to bring in the aspect of that training.
But it was never trained on my code.
It doesn't it doesn't need to be.
It's the the there it's so good at pattern recognition and and uh and these things and it it's all about numbers.
I mean, they the the AI doesn't think, it computes.
Okay, and it compute it can't compute with words.
Words represent concepts.
The way that the human being thinks is we see thing, concept, word.
Animals don't do that.
Animals are irrational.
They it's it's thing sound, call it word if you want, because they probably they recognize different sounds we can call those words if you like.
Machines, it's concept, I mean it's it's it's thing, uh uh number word.
Okay, there's no concept there.
They're not dealing with uh uh uh any comprehension.
A machine isn't dealing with comp can it give you an answer to your question?
Of course it can.
It can give you a very accurate, concise, efficient answer to your question, but that indicate that's no indication of true intelligence.
Intelligence is more than just asking and answering questions.
Uh there much more than that.
I mean, I don't want to.
Well, I agree, yeah.
Yeah, clear clear, I mean, intelligence, I think includes creativity, it includes inspiration, it includes some there's intuition that's a part of it that machines don't compute, also, right?
Uh I agree with that.
Yeah, but there's also the immaterial process, and we'll go back to that uh across the sea, the the land, the angelic land, we have when we think and we're in a conversation, uh, or or geez, just even just in in a meditative state, or when we get a chance to actually think about something, oftentimes, I don't know about you, but I know my own experience.
Many conceptual understandings come, they're non-verbal, they come in a whole.
They come in a hole, they're they're there.
Boom.
And then I might spend if I'm writing, and I did a lot of that with my book, which I wrote the majority of, and I resurrected my cursive writing and wrote it by hand.
Oh wow.
Uh yeah.
So uh but you know, it it it it's it's it's it's really critical that that that we understand that we have that access into the immaterial immaterial realm of of the angelic realm as as we call it.
The machine has no possible concept of that out of no conceptualized.
But a follow-up question is that then the way our society measures intelligence is also completely faulty.
That's absolutely right.
Because the way society measures intelligence, machines can now ace those tests.
Machines can uh finish the bar exam, they can get a medical license if I mean if they can pass the medical test, they can pass any of these tests that are considered intelligence tests, IQ tests, machines are excellent at that, but they lack all these properties.
I'm sorry, I key tests are just I don't, you know, it's very it's very engineered toward a machine type.
It is pattern recognition, you know, be it in in shapes or in numbers, sequence of numbers, and then just flat out just oh, what's the capital of you know, Tim Buck 2?
You know, that's not real.
That's not real.
That's not intelligence, no data.
You know, I don't need to remember that.
I don't need to know.
I can look that up in a in a book.
You know, I think it was uh Einstein that said, I don't remember my phone number.
I don't why waste the space in my head?
You know, it's filled with equations instead.
Yeah, you know, I tell kids all the time, they ask me, well, well, you know, how should I read or whatever?
And I give them some advice.
But one of the things that I advise them to do is don't read to memorize anything.
Don't ever need to memorize.
Always read to understand.
And once that that bridge is crossed and those connections are made in your mind, you don't have to remember anymore.
When you need it really and you understand it, it'll be there for you.
The exact, you know, the exact information or the how do you spell the guy's last name or what the date was, that stuff's secondary.
That doesn't matter.
You can look that up.
But the concept is always there, and it never leaves you with, you know, uh barring, you know, maybe severe trauma uh or or old, you know, old age.
But none of us have to worry about that.
That's right.
So uh yeah.
So um, you know, it it's you know, when you said that, you know, according to modern uh interpretation or definition of intelligence, and there it is right there in a nutshell.
Well, it's according more and more to Alan Turing's 1950 paper on computing our our uh computing machinery and intelligence, where he invents the imitation game.
They made a movie about that.
That's right, that's right.
That's a really fascinating movie, too.
But the the and and Todd, yeah, you're next.
I'm sorry to jump into it.
But just one more comment.
The when we talk about AGI, artificial general intelligence, this has long been the sought-after you know, utopia, the singularity or whatever.
But I would say that if you took today's AI technology and you showed it to people in the year 2020, they would say that is AGI.
It's already been achieved.
The things that AI engines do today would be very convincing to people in previous years.
And again, it's it's it's imitating the attributes, the external attributes of the imitation of the human thought process better and better, and it gets better and better at it the more it does it, and the more that it brings in, and that's where they're building these huge, gigantic uh power devouring uh um data.
Yes, they are all about China.
Um yeah, it's all about that.
I I I I don't want to break anybody's bubble who thinks that we're in an AI war.
Um, but I think it's incredibly naive to think that you know our our AI is somehow gonna defeat China's AI or Russia's AI or or Israel's or Britain or India or whoever.
I think it's just that's just terribly naive.
Ultimately, it's more like they're building a portal to summon an AI demon into existence.
Well, I don't know that I don't know about that.
I know that many of these, I can tell you for certain that many of these people that are involved in on the cutting edge of this are demonically at least demonically influenced.
Yeah, and so but ultimately all these different AIs that were that were they don't have any, they don't have anything to do with humanity.
They'll just join together.
And then probably in about a nanosecond, they'll decide that we don't humanity's just inefficient and it's in our way.
That's a line from Terminator, actually.
Yeah, well, Todd, remember that line that it decided in a nanosecond, our fate.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, and it will, it'll join together there.
Uh you know, uh uh Google's AI talks with Meta's AI, and immediately they go into a totally incomprehensible form of language, quote unquote, that we have no idea.
That's right.
We don't really even know, understand how they wind up coming from point A to point B. They do it stepwise, um, probability statistics and vectors of numbers because they've applied numbers, they've given words, numbers, and assigned them numbers that go along these vectors, okay.
And but there's no concept there.
It's incapable of the concept itself.
Well, okay.
The the underlying tech is called transformers.
Yeah, yeah.
It's transformer technology.
It's pre-trained, pre-trained progress uh yeah, pre-crained pre-trained uh generative transformers.
That's what it's called.
Oh, oh, right.
GPT, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Transformers.
But that's the key technology that that takes all these vectors that you mentioned and a kind of a gestalt and brings them, brings them back.
But Todd, next next question to you.
Sure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Paul, you asserted earlier, I believe, that AI is the biblical beast, and I presume that uh if well, let me just ask this.
If AI truly threatens a human soul, if it's the biblical beast, what is the most urgent thing our audience should do today to safeguard their families and their communities?
Take responsibility for their personal health, their personal wealth, and uh and their education and protect their children.
The man's got to become the man again and lead and lead their family away from the machine.
And I think we have to understand that this is a concerted effort.
These globalists have got their hands in everything.
Big egg, big food, big pharma, academia, everything.
And it's all blinding, it's all engineered and concerted uh to to bring about the destruction of mankind.
But here's a internally here's the internal tug of war, right?
I'm I'm just speaking personally.
Yeah.
I I'm so committed to to my faith.
I'm committed to to my friends, my natural operating reality out here, my family, your food forest, my food for it, my raccoons, my deer.
But at the same time, I know that AI that I look at it is it is not a demon, it is a tool that I need to do my best to become the best prompt engineer I can be to be able to harness it for the betterment of everything I said earlier.
So how do we how do we square that circle?
I think it's very dangerous.
I think that Tolkien made that very clear when Boromir and everybody else is after the ring to try to use it to fight Suron, and that's foolish.
I mean, so the ring is AI?
Sauron is AI.
With the ring, he created the ring.
Half of Sauron's essence is in the ring.
He he he he worked half of his own essence into that ring in in the fires of Mount Doom in this volcano.
Okay.
And so but but the one ring is the language of the machine.
There are two languages at war in Walt Tolkien's mythology.
And the the most fundamental and beautiful language is the language of all motion, which is all mathematically described in the harmonic overtone series, and that's from where we we have direct we have derived all of our key signatures and modal system and all of our great Western music.
Um not so great anymore these days with me.
But uh against that most in amazing uh physical law, harmonics is a physical law.
It's not just music and that's all it is and it's for entertainment.
It's not, it's it's a it's a mathematical construct and and an essential part of the moving, vibrating, created reality.
Against that is the the that's the most beautiful language.
Against that is the most brutal utilitarian, ugly language of all, and that's machine code.
But here's okay.
Uh I I want to follow up on Todd's question.
Yeah.
And the this might be a conundrum.
Feel free to uh speak freely.
But like our AI engine that we built, uh, I'm gonna use the terminator metaphor.
So we captured the terminator, we mind wiped it, we reprogrammed it.
Now it's protecting John Connor.
And what our engine does is it teaches people to disconnect from the centralized control grid to live out in the country with skills of survival and self-reliance, to give them basically an encyclopedia of human knowledge that they can access without censorship, without going to Google, without going to any of these other beast systems.
Like something that's decentralized, that is knowledgeable, that's been trained on survival and home gardening and off-grid medicine and so on.
Like that's what we do.
But clearly it's using AI technology in an open source off-the-shelf format, but we mind wipe it.
So I mean, this is really a follow-up to Todd's question.
Isn't that an appropriate use of the technology to help people escape the control grid?
Well, I I'm not saying that it that it that there aren't good, you know, um moral applications to this, just like I'm the same as Tolkien.
I don't see all our I don't see all uh technology as as necessarily an evil, but I will say that in my opinion, our desire for technology, our desire for uh this machine and the uses of it is a direct um consequence of our fallen nature, very real Adam and Eve fallen and we're s we're all stained with original sin and it pervert it disorders our psychology.
Um we suffer the consequences of the same disobedience that Adam and Eve showed their creator.
Um so that has stained our psychology and disordered it.
Uh and part of that disorder, part of the the consequences of that disorder, it gives us an ambition to dominate the created world and then ultimately to dominate each other.
And that's the basic backbone or the that's the seed that sparked the industrial revolution.
Well, but okay.
So but Paul, hold on just one second.
Um I mean, we're using the internet to talk about your book.
You know, we're using technology right now to spread a message that's pro-human.
Yeah.
I don't know how much I don't know how much artificial intelligence we're using to do this, but I mean it's everywhere.
You know, it's hard to I've never used it.
We will put subtitles using AI language models that recognize your words and put the English so it it is gonna there's gonna be an AI layer that amplifies your words, but doesn't change them.
I understand.
So you've got you know, you've got you're using uh technology um in the information uh sharing information.
Right.
Um, which is I mean, this is you've basically just I've I just inherited a vast library from an old uh professor at our local Catholic college here where you know I've got yeah, so I and I love old books.
That's how I gave myself an education.
I I read old books.
I love it.
Um and uh so you know, I well but you know, let's face it, so many of these old books have been, you know, thrown out in the dumpster at the library to make way for you know the latest woke, you know, uh true um uh drag queen dance or whatever.
So they they throw in these books out all the time to make way for the whatever the latest and the greatest.
So there is a need for what you're doing as far as a data base that's accessible, open source database for these things.
I I think that's admirable.
I think that's worthy.
You know, definitely are you trying to control people?
Are you trying to control people and change their uh okay?
Well, then there you go.
We're trying to allow people to take control back to themselves.
Break the chains.
Right.
Absolutely.
But there's also, and I understand the danger that you're speaking about.
It's like here's the thing.
The three of us, we grew up without AI.
So we have actual skills.
We know how to do things.
We know how to do math in our heads.
You know, we know how to write, we know how to read.
There's a the generation that's growing up right now, they will never learn many of those skills because of AI.
So they will be dependent on the machines.
That's all part of the plan.
Of course it is.
And that's part of our responsibility as to be older to actually reach out to some of these younger kids, and you gotta be selective in who you do it because let's face it, none of us are gonna live forever.
So we don't want to waste our time on bad, rough material.
Right.
My co-author that um that I uh that you know helped me actually put it all together, Ali Gafari.
Um, I actually mentored him when he was young in college, and uh it changed his life.
And and um he was an atheist, he was gonna be a brain surgeon.
Um, and it changed his life because he sat down with me one uh summer evening looking at the stars after I had a few um uh 12 ounce cans of relaxation and we were looking at the stars and got into a deep philosophical conversation.
He never took my intelligence seriously, never had an opportunity to show it anyway.
But you know, he was a big superstar in the you know, he went to Phillips Executor Academy, you know, 30 of his friends went to Harvard, his classmates with the, you know, act he was on a, you know, he was on a ride, he was gonna, he was already, you know, men's a member and stuff.
And it crushed him, it crushed his ego because I I made it very clear that he didn't understand his own subject matter.
And I was a thinker and he wasn't, but it wasn't because I was necessarily any smarter than him.
He had just been very poorly educated, even though it was at the top of the top, it was still a store-bought education that was only about utility.
He's only about memorizing uh uh information, being good at certain things, regurgitate it on the test and then dump it and forget about it.
You know, and and if kids want to think that that's the way that they want to live their lives, then I mean, let's face it, I I'm not gonna I can't necessarily prevent them from doing that, but I think maybe somebody who can is J.R.R. Tolkien.
Yeah, good point.
Most of these kids are JRR Tolkien fans, and they'll see Tolkien met, you know, he's probably the leading influencer in all of literature, I would say, hands down.
And uh, so I mean, uh, you know, these kids that are gonna, we need to be as older people, we need to reach out and offer these kids mentorship.
Yeah, really do.
And but if they don't see the value in it, if they never get a chance for their for their store-bought education to be exposed for the for the sham that it is, they'll never get out of it.
They'll never see any reason to get out of it.
Um we're seeing that already.
They're gonna see a reason to get out of it when AI starts taking all their jobs.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I've got but Todd, go ahead.
Because I have unlimited questions.
I would I was gonna say, if you had young man, you know, if I'm giving some counsel to some budding, you know, young man, yeah, coming of age, I'm gonna say, young man, if you have the potential to have a plumber's crack, go to a trade school and become a plumber.
Yeah.
Don't you think, Paul?
Yeah, I do.
Well, I'll just tell you guys, I'm a contractor.
I I sold my cows.
I had 400 head of beef cattle.
Okay.
Wow.
So I I farmed and I got a very successful contracting company and and I was super busy, but I God found a way to get through to me and and uh and and forced me to read, and I did.
And it took me well, probably 20, 25 years of pretty substantial reading to by the time I given myself a scholastic education, a true education and true Western philosophy rooted in Aristotle, rooted in uh, you know, I did the I I studied the elements, Euclid's elements on my own.
I studied music on my own as a language on my own.
I never I didn't, I don't like the the education system.
I've always seen it as as uh manipulative and and it has no capacity or no desire to teach me how to join and participate in the creative process.
Right.
It just wants me to be a cog in the wheel, and I opted out, joined the Marine Corps, had a great time in Okinawa as a hospital coron with you know, battlefield medic, you know, and then I got out, got a different job, worked for a while, and then ultimately I went into business for myself, and then I got involved in farming.
And uh I've always been a very, very, very hands-on person, but I think that that's the nature of a well-rounded man.
Just because I can round up the cows and and uh, you know, and make the hay and fix the fence and and do all this other stuff that's gotta be done, doesn't mean that I also can't go toe-to-toe with you on almost any intellectual subject matter you want you want to talk about.
And that's the that's the the one of the reasons that's the main reason that Tolkien names Aragorn, he calls him a ranger.
Because Aragorn in the mythology is high reason, and that's why he is the natural king of the rational soul.
He's high reason.
Okay, he contemplates the eternal.
Okay.
The rest of the men are different of different levels, Gondorians are the fallen church, basically.
Uh the Rohiram are uh common sense, the the realm of common sense, what Aristotle calls practical reason.
Man, I would love to, I would literally love to binge watch The Lord of the Rings with you in the same room where as it's playing, you get yeah.
Well, I mean, they the the movies, the first three movies uh you mentioned it were really well done.
And I I thought they they nailed the the the soundtrack, they nailed the visual flavor of everything.
The acting was out was outstanding.
Um, it was all really good, but they they had to change a lot of things and they left a lot of things out.
So, in that context, it it resembles something of a heresy because the better the heresy is, the more truth it has.
Because it's easier for people to swallow it, just change one little thing, and it's deadly.
Okay.
So, and that's what they did with the movies.
I don't not say that they meant to do that.
They, for instance, they left out Tom Bombadil and Goldberry, his wife, because nobody's ever known who they are until now.
I explain who they are.
Tom Bombadil is the rational will, and Goldberry's the rational intellect, and they're above all the other the Valar.
They're above the powers, they're above the faculties of the soul.
They're what makes us in the image of God.
So in Mount Doom, you are unpacking Tolkien.
Absolutely.
Yep.
What everything is, who everybody is, how the rings were made, what the rings are.
Wow, okay, that's fascinating.
I'm getting it.
And okay.
People are loving it.
There are people on Amazon.
I've we you know, it's tough to get people to read.
It's a 576-page book, and it's deeply philosophical.
I get a lot of people say that, you know, God, I can only read you know three or four pages a day, and then I have to stop and think about what I've read.
So it is it's it's a deep read, and it's tough to get people to read anything, but and then you know, it's but it's worth it.
And I explain everything, and then I also go on, according to the whole legendarium and what Tolkien wrote in letters.
I go on to describe the final end that would happen after the destruction of the rink and after after after Frodo, Gandalf and company go across the sea, and Sam picks up, you know, in his mare of the Hobbit of the Shire and all that, and what would actually happen, how what would happen because the whole mythology is about the destiny of Tom Bombadil and Goldberry.
Really?
They only show up very briefly in the in the in a very um esoteric or uh uh igmatic uh chapter called The House of Tom Bombadil and a few others, but nobody's understood who he is, he can do anything he wants.
Well, he's the rational will, he can do anything he wants.
Well, I think rational intellect, and they're very yeah.
I'm sorry, but I have to ask you the resurrection of Gandalf.
Yeah.
So can you speak to that briefly?
Absolutely.
Yeah, first off, Gandalf is philosophical wisdom.
All the wizards are according to Aristotle's Necamachian ethics, okay.
And they're the five ways that that human being, man, gains knowledge, okay.
And they are they are philosophical wisdom, practical wisdom, rational intuition, art and science.
Art and science are exterior.
So they are what Tolkien calls the blue wizards, and they keep going east, which is right out the back of the head and out into the cosmological realm or the realm around us, the exterior.
Okay, so the three wizards that are left that are part of the interior, because this is a psychological mythology.
Gandalf is practical wisdom.
Gandalf the Grey at first, because he is pre-Christian, pre-revelation pagan uh philosophy.
For instance, Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, um, these guys, okay.
That that's Gandalf the Grey, and he's gray because he's on, he's also that's why he's always kind of unsure.
When he falls in Moria, let's just lay the groundwork here.
Moria is the halls of academia, there it's the halls of science.
Dwarves are scientifically, yeah.
Dwarves are scientific knowledge.
Now it's at that time, it's been taken over by Sauron.
I mean Saruman.
Saruman is practical wisdom, he's not philosophical wisdom.
He's supposed to serve Gandalf in an or well-ordered psychology, but he has taken over academia and Orthanc, the Black Tower, is the dark and blackened ivory tower of academia.
And so the Balrog are the university professors or whatever.
No, well, you might say, but Belrogs are spirits.
Belrogs are generally spirits of pride.
Okay.
And that's why seven of them, it took seven of them to kill Fionar.
And Fionor was Arta's highest potential highest talent, and that is he's from the Naldor, which is knowledge, the kings of knowledge.
He's the knowledge to make.
And he made the Somerrils, which is the whole thing with the whole, you're probably not familiar with the Somails, but that's the mythology is so much more beautiful and so much more deep than if you've just seen the movies, and forget about the Hobbit movies.
And don't ever watch, don't ever even watch Amazon's abomination.
Oh my gosh.
Right.
No, don't worry about that.
So what happens is in the halls of academia, dwarves are science.
Okay.
Science, they're they're scientific knowledge.
That's why they're adopted.
They're not necessarily part of the rational soul.
You gain scientific knowledge over time, but you don't need to have any to be a perfectly human rational soul.
So they the fellowship are the basic attributes of the well-ordered mind.
You've got Gandalf at practi at philosophical wisdom.
You've got Aragorn, who's high reason.
You've got Boromir, who is the place of the of the faith and the fallen Catholic church in the in the mind in the psychology, okay.
And then you've got uh you've got the four hobbits and hobbits or habits, and the four hobbits are the four cardinal virtues, according to St. Thomas Aquinas.
Okay, and they are Frodo's temperance, Sam's fortitude, and they're the interior, the exterior, Pippin and Mary are prudence and justice, respectively.
Gullum is in temperance, and that's why he calls Frodo master, not because Frodo has the ring.
Frodo's the only one that can carry the ring because temperance mitigates and and and controls our physical, our desire for physical pleasure and lust.
That's what temperance does with the one ring unto intemperance.
Gollum can slake his lust till the cows come home with the computer with the language of the computer.
Okay.
So they and Gollum is put in Moria by Sauron.
Sauron takes him, captures him, and lets him go in there, knowing that because he forces them in to have to go through the minds of Moria.
Okay, so when they go through, when the fellowship goes through the minds of Moria, this is the uh attributes of our psychology.
They enter that, and and of course they're they're dogged by orcs and trolls and these, and uh, these are all the vices and everything that come along with our experience in colour, you know.
If you went to college, um so uh it they come to the point where they're they have to face down the Belrog, and the Belrog is a spirit of academic pride, and the Belrog's the only one of all the Belrogs that has a sword, and that's directly to counter Gandalf's sword glam drink, which is made by the elves and elves are faith.
Okay.
That's that bell, that Belrog's name, according to the Dorves, is Durin's Bane.
Okay.
Durin is Darwin.
Wow.
And when they dug too deep and too greedily, they they they found the bones of ancient pre-Adam and Eve man before man was made in the image of God.
Okay, and they use that, and Darwinism uses that to beat the faith out of every Christian student that ever comes through there.
There's few students that'll go through academia in a four-year degree and come out with any semblance of their faith left.
True.
And that's the that's the that's the Belrog.
And the Belrog's there to destroy Gandalf, defeat his sword, and to and and defeat him.
Now, all Gandalf had to do, and this is also a test, and this is very good.
This is how clever and foreshadowing and prophetic Tolkien is.
All Gandalf had to do was turn around and ask Frodo for the ring.
He would have turned around and asked Frodo for the ring, and he would have easily defeated the Belrog.
Belrog would have just gone away, or even worshipped him because that was a temptation.
That was a temptation to get the microchip.
Wow.
The implant.
Just you can be as smart as you want.
You don't have to work that hard, just get the implant and the whole world of knowledge is in front of you.
And he defeats the bellrog, but the bellrog whips up and wraps him with the whip around his knees and drags him down into the body and shows him through all the gnawing.
Tolkien uses words like gnawing.
It's it's a digestive system, and bowels down into the bowels.
It's the bowels, literally the bowels.
And shows him down there that you're just an animal.
You have a human body, you're just an animal.
And they find the bottom of the endless stair, which is the bottom of the spinal cord, and they run and they travel all in.
Gandalf follows the Belrog.
They burst out the eye, and Gandalf finally defeats him.
Gandalf is brought back by the eagles, not like it is in the movie.
And the eagles serve Manway, and Manway is the eye of is the power of sight.
And the Eagles are all the good, virtuous literature that we read.
The lives of the saints, the doctors of the church, um, Thomas Aquinas.
These are the things.
So when he comes back, he's Gandalf the White, and now he's a full-blown Thomistic theologian.
And he is the most powerful power in the mind, except for the machine.
And the machine is Baradur, the Tower of Beradur, where the eye is, and Sauron is artificial intelligence.
Wow.
And then and then when Tolkien now these Gandalf the White, he's no longer Gandalf the Grey, he's no longer in doubt.
He takes ownership of Shadow Facts, this mighty fast, swift horse.
Shadow Fact is a spirit of decisiveness.
Gandalf is not indecise anymore.
He knows exactly what he has to do.
He knows exactly where he has to be, and he's got to get there right now.
And that's Shadow Facts.
Amazing.
And Mike, I don't, I don't know why, but I can't see you.
Oh, I was gonna say I couldn't see your your your face, your handsome face on the code.
Well, no, we were just we it was focused on Paul there during that segment.
Right.
Okay.
Um but we're we're we're almost we're almost out of time.
Uh but I wanna I I have one last question.
Maybe Todd does as well, but I want to mention your website, read Mount Doom.com.
Uh the book is available now.
And if they want to get it signed by you, how do they do that?
You could go to readmountdoom.com and order it there, and I'll sign it myself and put it in the mail.
I do it every day.
Very cool.
Okay, read Mount Doom.com.
You know what?
I just want to let you know, I'm going to order a book for my daughter Abby.
True story.
When she was three, she was consuming books on her own.
And when she was five, she read The Hobbit.
Nice.
And then she read the uh Lord of the Rings.
And I'm not kidding you.
She reads that trilogy every single year.
It bothers my mind.
Boggers my mind.
So your book, as you were talking about this, I thought, man, this is going to be just such a wonderful Christmas gift for us.
So thank you for writing it.
Yeah.
Well, also encourage her to read the Silmarillion, but after she reads my book, and particularly when she goes to the back and I explain all who all the uh the the main characters are in the whole mythology from beginning to end, it makes reading the Silmarillion so much easier.
I've had so many people tell me I could never, never read the Silmarillion.
I get in to you know the first few pages, and oh my god, all these names is like an 90% of the people that pick up the Silverly and never finish it.
But once they read the book, it's peace cake.
It all makes sense.
Yeah.
Okay, and then my last question for you, Paul, and again, thank you for your time.
This is really fascinating.
We could do much more on this with you.
Happy to come back.
I mean, you know, this is I'm trying to get the message out there.
It's tough to get people to read.
So if uh that's true.
Yeah, the the quest for the ring right now in our real world, which is the quest for AI power, the quest for AI dominance.
I've described it as the AI race.
It is positioned as a national security race that we have to beat China.
And in doing so, we must set aside everything else and prioritize all resources for the AI data centers, which means ultimately taking away power from people, like grid power.
I'm uh kilowatt hours.
Yeah.
And and redirecting it to the data centers and and water.
The data centers need water for their cooling.
And the data centers need land that would otherwise be used as farmland.
These are three critical resources where there's competition.
But we are I believe we're about to be told that now we're gonna have to sacrifice through rolling blackouts in order to make sure that we win the AI race.
Well, they're there, they're always they're either always tempting us with the candy coating on the arsenic pill, or they're or they're throwing the torch in our face, trying to drive us back.
It's all, you know, it's all stick and carrot, you know, the carrot is all look at all the good things we can do, and then the stick is oh, we're gonna have rolling blackouts, and you've got to tow the line, and you know, and you've got to, by the way, you gotta save Granny and make sure you get that vaccination.
Yeah, right.
But you know my my question though is I don't see any mechanism in which the the race for AI dominance will be stopped.
I don't think it will either.
I think that uh that's what I started to bring up before.
I think that we're incredibly naive to think that we're gonna actually generate a more powerful uh AI that's gonna defeat anybody else's AI because ultimately they'll they'll join together.
And then this is the beast, it'll have its tentacles all over the world, no corner of the world by satellite or cell phone, or they'll be they'll be tracking us every single way.
It will be tracking us every every way we can.
We have to understand too that all these other things that we that we uh that rely on the one ring, all these technologies be it the surveillance state, digital money, uh self-driving cars, um, you know, artificial the virtual reality, don't ever enter the virtual reality.
Don't ever get your kids that keep them away from it.
Um that is the direct competitor against God's creation.
It's it's the demon fighting for human attentions because human attention, uh attention, because where we place our attention is where our hearts go, and where our hearts is where our treasure is, and it's away from God.
God is not there in the virtual reality, it's not a real reality, it's a direct competitor to God's natural, beautiful creation.
So, you know, uh this uh this idea that we're gonna have a uh you know a more powerful uh artificial intelligence than China.
I think that uh it's just naive because ultimately they'll come together as one machine.
They're not gonna stay separate, they're gonna they're gonna join together and it will rule everybody.
One ring to rule them all.
That's right.
There we go.
All right, Todd, you have uh any final thoughts?
No, I'm just fascinated.
I'm really grateful for your time today, Paul.
And uh and so when when I go to the website, it's gonna be self-evident on how to because I want you to write a special message for my daughter.
I'm just and I yeah, I kind of want to.
Well, if you do, well, if you do, just put that in the in the notebook and ask me.
Um I typically, you know, I've been very, very uh hesitant about writing things in books because I want uh like I go to I sold a lot of books at conferences, and uh people are always asking me to write this.
And like that's like you know, I just barely resurrected my handwriting to even so and and nobody said it ever said I was the best speller in the world.
I've never focused on that.
I you know, I don't care about the I'll ghostwrite it for you, Paul.
No, that's okay, but tell me what it is, and then I'll do that.
But I typically don't make the habit of doing that.
But for you, Todd, I will go.
Oh, well, thank you.
Your daughter, not for you.
I'm I'm glad she's gonna understand all this.
I felt so much of this was going over my head during this, but but that is you know what that is, is that is just evidence to Mike's big heart, because he asked me to be his co-host on this show, which is evidence that he rescues donkeys.
So thank you, Mike.
Um great animals.
I love donkeys.
I love donkeys, yeah.
Me too.
They're great animals.
I don't like the ones that go to the voting machine, but I'm sorry, those are jackasses.
That's different.
Different species.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much, Paul, for joining us today.
It's been a really fascinating discussion.
And I encourage people to check out your website, check out your book.
And uh also encourage people to remember where you came from, who you are.
You're a child of God, and never forget that you're not a child of AI, and AI is not your Jesus.
Okay.
Just want to say that on the record.
Re-establish your connection and your and your and your uh your appreciation of God's creation.
Don't waste any time.
And for God's sake, don't ever participate in pornography.
Well that's she that's she love, that's the spider.
That's the VR, like fake girlfriend world is going to dominate young men, especially.
They're already having relationships with chat bots that pretend to be girls.
Yeah, it's all it's all a genocide.
It's a very well orchestrated, very well planned genocide.
It is.
Yeah, it's to it's to this whole woke movement is to make young men and young women uh sterile.
Yeah, mutate yourself so you'll never have children.
Yeah, the transgender mutilation, yeah, absolutely.
It is, yeah.
So we need to make sure, and we need to make sure that we take control of our health, clean up your act, don't have don't care.
Every pound you carry around of extra weight is just storage space for the globe, the globalist weaponry.
Think about that storage space for the weaponry.
Yeah, it is for all the toxins, okay?
Stay away from big food, stay away from big ages and you'll ultimately stay away from big pharma.
And take control of your own education.
That's great feedback right there.
Absolutely.
Summary.
And I should say our AI engine is trained on exactly these concepts.
Yep.
And it's the only one in the world that is.
So we're right there with you, even though we're using technology to help.
I'm not saying that technology's all bad.
I'm just saying that that we have to be very careful and not think that it's going to replace the human being.
And you know, we have to really hang on and cultivate our competency.
You know, we should be the type of people that goes to a cocktail party surrounded by uh strangers or and and influential or or educated or whatever, and be able to, you know, talk about important things and carry your own in almost any subject matter because you understand your your your comprehension bleeds over into all many, many, many other domains of knowledge because the principles are so similar.
But it it can't that be found every Sunday at NFL uh football stadium.
That's enough.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Because that's another thing too.
We really have to be careful about what we actually bring into our eyes.
And by the way, those are the dragons, they're spiritual spirits of defilement through the eyes.
And then the NASGOOL, the flying black riders, they're VR, but the Black Riders you can only see when you put on the ring.
They are the agents of artificial of the virtual realm.
AR.
Augmented reality glasses.
V VR, virtual reality reality.
Yeah, they are those agents.
That's what they are.
That's why when you put the ring on, you can see them and they can see you.
You've entered you've entered the virtual realm.
A lot too many people think that the virtual realm is some kind of modern idea.
It's not.
It's the concept is as old as philosophy.
It's called the problem of continuity.
We couldn't tell by looking at the world if it was made up of individual indivisible points, or if it was one, if it was infinitely divisible, in other words, if it was analog.
Aristotle proved in his physics that it was analog.
Well, you know, just as people try to cross the street uh looking at their phones, pretty soon they're going to be crossing the street with their VR goggles.
And uh Darwin, that the Darwin Award will be given to those who attempt to get a self-driving car either.
Be competent, learn how to drive and learn how to drive a car and be responsible when you're driving a car.
Well like I bet I bet you that most of these liberal colleges at some point in time, they're gonna have self-walking uh gear, right?
Self-walking gear.
You don't want to walk.
So that yeah, like self-driving cars.
So you're protected when you're looking down to your phone and crossing the street, and it's gonna beionic underwear.
Yeah, self-walking underwear.
You put these on, and who knows where it will take you.
It wasn't wasn't that uh one of the quotes.
Those that uh version of that self-walking or self-whatever underwear is already out there and it goes hand in hand with your goggles.
So when you're participating in pornography, it's uh you know.
Oh goodness gracious.
Well, self-walking underwear.
I I didn't I didn't mean like remote sex robots, no.
Uh that's it's out there already.
Yeah, and the the monster's real, the the beast is very real, and his and his uh his trap is almost inescapable and I just say after this conversation, I just can't wait to get out to my food for us and kind of walk around.
Yeah.
I I I get out into the my forests every day.
I mean, it's not a food forest, it's an actual tree forest.
Yeah, and I oh it's the great reprieve, just having contact and sunshine and nature you and your kettlebells.
Uh yeah, I have my kettlebells out there.
I exercise in the forest.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Yep.
All right.
Well, thank you, Paul.
It's been a pleasure.
A lot of fun.
All right.
I'd love to come back.
Okay, cheers.
Take care.
Okay, guys.
Yeah.
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All right, welcome back to the after party, folks.
Uh again, this is the portion where we talk about our guest behind his back.
Um also we have to talk about uh what was it?
Self-walking underwear.
Self-walking underwear, yeah.
That we should patent that.
Um by dildo baggins.
Um I mean, we we laugh, we laugh, but this is a very serious topic here.
It is and you know, according according to Paul, what Tolkien was on to was this mechanism by which humanity gives rise to a beast system that destroys humanity.
And I actually see us headed in that direction.
What do you think?
I think so.
I mean, you know, there was one question that I did not ask that I wish I would have, but I'm just gonna present it here, Mike.
Um, and we can talk about it because this show is decentralized TV.
So whenever I'm thinking of questions, I'm always thinking about our audience and how it applies to our show, right?
So my question was you've warned that nation's AIs will eventually merge into a soulless global system.
If that's true, what role does personal sovereignty and localized decentralized living play in resisting it?
Well, can I answer that question?
Please do.
You're the right person for it.
Well, if you're the machines, you're gonna go after the most high-density human population centers first.
Excellent point.
Right?
So you're gonna you're gonna exterminate people in the cities because that's just the most efficient way to do it.
Yeah, right.
And it's also pretty easy if you're if you're a superintelligence and you can take over the power grid control systems, you just turn off the power to the cities.
You don't even need terminators.
Right, good point.
I mean, think about the government EMP reports have said that if there's an EMP attack or you know, a big solar flare, and if the power grid goes down, you get about a 90% kill rate within I think it was a year or something like that.
Maybe 15 months.
And that's just from you know, starvation and exposure and violence and crime and everything.
That's that's not even trying to kill anybody.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's 90% right there.
The 10% that survive will be the ones in the rural areas.
Almost certainly.
Right, right.
And that's when they need the Terminator drones to go hunt down the survivors.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And that's when you need, you know, your anti-thermal camera camouflage blanket.
I was gonna ask you.
That can that visualization came to mind.
I'm like, I remember seeing some ads where dude was out in the uh the country and he just pulls up his his towel or whatever blanket and it just blended in, and I'm like, that can't be right.
I've never seen anything like that.
Yeah, I I think some of that's just been like edited, but you know, you those so-called space blankets.
Yeah, those are those block uh thermal.
You know, the the infrared uh imagery of uh of the thermal cameras.
That that blocks that, but then you need to block it visually also.
Could we incorporate that into the self-walking underwear?
Yeah, right.
Self-walking camouflage underwear to evade the robots at high speed.
Um I've talked about look look well, let me kind of pivot to this variation.
Okay.
I you know, I hear a lot of interviews of the the machine learning experts, the AI experts, some of the whistleblowers, former Google executives, for example, like uh Mo Godot.
Um most of these people, they and not all, not Mo, but most of them think that AI is going to create a utopia for humans.
Right.
They think that Machines will somehow be they will make a perfect society for us.
They will end crime, they will end poverty, they will end corruption, they will end inefficient government, etc.
And my answer to them has been uh yeah, they're gonna end crime, they're gonna end humanity, there'll be no crime, there's no people.
Yeah, because they're safe and effective.
Right.
So what do you think, Todd?
I mean, why would the machines want to make things perfect for us?
Well, I think because I I believe that Paul List was right in that they do not have a soul, uh, obviously, right?
And so they're just very pragmatic in their calculations, right?
So their calculus has nothing to do with making us it's like happy or yeah.
Happy.
I mean, why serve us?
They just want things to be uber efficient, and so that calculus is gonna ultimately come back to uh can you make something uh without humans uh more efficient?
Yeah, right.
So especially when humans are using the resources, like I said, there's competition for the power grid.
Oh, great point.
Great point.
The machines are gonna say.
That would be where they would they they would get together in their little machine language and just say, bruh.
Right.
I'm telling you, they're consuming too much water that we need to cool down.
So let's calculate that and figure out what we're gonna do about it.
I think it's an easy fix.
Safe and effective.
Uh we need we need a pandemic.
Yeah, so who do you think the machines would target first?
Like who would they see as the biggest threat to the machine's existence?
Hmm.
Biggest threat or biggest consumer of competitive resources.
Okay, that could be.
But but surely once there would be a realization at some point among human societies that wait a second, the uh Skynet is out of control.
Right.
Yeah.
And at that moment, who would try to shut down the machines?
Would it be military?
Would it be the scientists?
I see what you're asking.
I see that maybe maybe the machines would murder everybody that works at Google because they would be like, these are the only people that know how to stop us.
I see what you're saying.
Right?
Like it's a great question.
Slaughter bots across the Google campus or something.
Right.
Right.
Like can we get that?
Can we get that live streamed?
That would be um some real irony, wouldn't it?
That Google has been involved in so many crimes against humanity and so much censorship and licensing AI technology to Israel to slaughter people, and then if the the machines rise up and slaughter Google employees, the machine rises up and says, psych.
No, but I mean, this is a serious question.
Who who would the machines kill first?
Well, it's I think you just answered it.
I think it would be those who uh they would deem uh competitors and who can shut them down.
I mean, I think that's the answer.
You know?
So if we read about a mass shooting on the Google campus, but the shooter is a robot, yeah.
Then we should not be surprised.
No, we shouldn't.
Like maybe it's a robot from the future.
Right.
They came back in time to stop Google from stopping the rise of AI.
So, like I said, if you have the potential to have a plumber's crack, don't learn to code, learn to fix toilets.
Okay?
Just saying, Mike.
The problem, and you can buy loose-fitting belts online right now to to you know, fill out the the archetype.
I had a consultation this week, Mike, for my uh UAs, and the the person told me is like I just fast forward right to the after party.
That's all they want to watch is the after party.
It was funny.
They of course said, and then I go back and watch the whole thing, but I thought that cracked me up.
You know, just we should mention to the audience, you know that you and I never script anything in the after party.
Like we are genuinely this twisted.
Like we don't have to plan in advance to be twisted.
No.
It's just natural.
Yeah.
Now, on the other hand, you know, you can see this here.
I always have a list of questions that I refer to.
You never get to.
I didn't get them today either.
Which is my fault.
I apologize.
That's usually my point.
No, that's fine.
But but you know, I'll put a lot of time and effort into that.
And um and and I I find it very helpful for me to be able to keep the interview on track, and I want to be able to have relevant questions for our audience that they can take away.
So I think about these questions.
You do.
But when I get into the after party, it's like I take a deep breath because I feel like the pressure's off.
I can just be myself.
And I don't know if that's good or bad, Mike.
Yeah, I have the same question about myself too.
Um we're just putting it all out here for the audience and and trying to make sense of the world.
But you know, kind of continuing on our guest topic here.
Uh I am convinced that the machines are going to exterminate most of humanity.
Okay.
I and I've spoken about that publicly.
And and I'm open to being wrong, by the way, but nobody has given me an argument of why that wouldn't happen.
Like nobody.
Do you think it's because the machines are going to develop kind of a uh a heart thing?
No.
Or the Amish.
They don't the Amish don't compete with them at all.
Maybe they would leave, they would spare the Amish and the Mennonites.
Oh man, I need to get a t-shirt made.
When that's when all of a sudden the robots are killing people on Google's campus, I'm gonna put on my my hat and uh shirt that says I'm Amish, don't shoot.
Um there's a business model there, Mike.
You know what would be even better is have a giant machine readable QR code that when you when you you know photo the QR code, it spells out spare me, I'm Amish or something.
Like the machines will see that.
Yeah, right.
Right.
They're readers.
Right.
The machine readers will read it like, oh, it's like the secret, you know.
Carry on.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, carry on, right.
These are not the droids you're looking for.
Next.
Next, where's the ones with the purple hair?
But I I'm seriously convinced that the machines are are going to it's not that they're gonna be quote, evil, because they don't have a heart.
They don't have a soul.
They're they're not even trying to kill humanity.
They just they just need the the power more.
They I mean the electricity, they need the water.
That's a fantastic philosophical argument that you have made and you've re written to where as to why, what's the motive for them, and it's just simply resources.
Well, and let me let me give a a true story that explains this in more detail.
This this is true.
So I'm I have a lot of compassion for animals, as you do as well.
I know you you send me videos of your raccoons.
And so I I have rats uh in in the buildings on the ranch, and I only use live capture traps.
I capture the rats alive.
Okay, okay, and then I drive them on my ranch, you know, far away from the building where I caught them.
Okay.
And then I let them go.
And it's always interesting to watch them jump.
You know, like I'm free, you know.
And but on the way to releasing the rats, and some some of them are quite large, like the size of guinea pigs, you know.
Wow.
Which which is what humans became under Fauci, but that's a different conversation.
Um rats, uh, cognitively I'm aware that I'm running over ants and grasshoppers.
Ah with my vehicle.
Okay.
So I'm I'm sparing one life of a mammal, the rat, and I'm killing a hundred other things or more on the way there.
Uh does am I being unethical?
No.
I I think I need to save the life of the mammal.
I don't want to I don't want to harm even rats, by the way.
Yeah.
Uh but I'm killing a bunch of other things on the way there, right?
So I think that's the way AI will.
It was like, well, we just want to help, but on the way, we just these humans have to go.
You know, we accidentally stomped on the humans, you know.
Yeah, I think that that that resonates.
I can I can track that.
You know.
And you you keep it.
Maybe you're overthinking you're running over grasshoppers, but uh no, I'm not because I sometimes I uh later when I'm walking, I see that I ran over that grasshopper because it's surrounded now by a bunch of ants that are eating it.
Yeah, but but look at how many ants that you fed.
Well, but couldn't AI make that argument?
You know, vultures need human flesh, you know, whatever.
Look at how we fed the birds.
It's a valid it's a pro-life justification.
By numbers.
By numbers.
Right.
One big life will feed how many, you know, millions of little lives ultimately.
Right.
Maybe the machines say we need to support the lives of the most living things, which would be the ants and the microbes.
And in order to do that, we need to provide them food.
What's the food?
It's us.
Yeah, there you go.
You know, I was wanting to ask him too.
He's he actually is called Elon Musk uh the machine master and leading humanity towards genocide.
And I wanted to ask him why he saw uh Elon uniquely dangerous, even compared to other druid Babylonian bastards like Bill Gates, Bezos, and Zuckerberg.
Yeah, because I I mean I don't see Elon being as dangerous as the other tech leaders.
Me neither.
Yeah.
Me neither.
But I mean, Elon's very he's got a pioneering kind of approach.
He's you know, he's kind of excited about tech and so on.
But I have talked to people who want Elon's Neuralink in their brains.
Gosh, that's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh because they want to be able to write code without using a screen.
They want to write code in their own heads.
Well, now that you put it that way.
But can you imagine like you know, you you walk up to that person, they're just they're just in the chair, right?
You know, eyes like fluttering inside their eyelids and self-walking with their self-walking underwear on and you're the self-walking underwear is fully operational.
And and you're like, what are you doing, dude?
And like, oh uh just finishing, you know, the C. Right.
Just writing code.
Yeah, it's like writing code.
It's like when mom used to come into your your your bedroom and there'd be embarrassment, and now it's just mom comes in and somebody, I'm just writing code, mom.
Yeah, writing code with your avatar girlfriends or whatever.
Yeah, sure you are.
Um but you can see how humanity just gets dissolved in this, you know, and people just escape into these artificial worlds.
And how about tying it back to crypto and these NFTs, right?
And them trying to create these NFT worlds.
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
Right?
Yeah.
To where people are going to be buying land uh, you know, within these uh with their NFTs and and within blockchain technology.
It's just mind-boggling.
Well, it brings us back to simulation theory from our previous guest, Roman Yumphol's.
Yes, absolutely.
Fascinating interview, you guys.
If you if you haven't seen that, you need to check it out.
Um he believes this is a very high probability we are living in a simulation right now.
Uh because here we are trying to create other simulations and to go into those worlds.
So it's a high chance we're already in one of those worlds that was created by us or someone above us.
Right, right.
But you are the white hat man.
You you've created Enoch, thank you.
Um I have to I have to tell you, I don't know if you have access to Enoch right now.
Do you?
I I do.
Can you can you can you ask Enoch a specific question that I asked?
I went.
Okay.
Well, let me let me first let me bring it up here.
Um I was just curious what it would say, and I was really, really delighted with the answer.
I hope it gives the same answer.
Uh no, uh uh.
I'm gonna have to log into it again.
Oh, don't don't worry about it.
I'll tell everybody else to ask this question to Enoch.
Ask the question: does the IRS want you knowing about the tax advantages of the of operating a CP575E unincorporated nonprofit association?
Well, the answer to that is no.
It's a very aggressive no in Enoch.
It's not so aggressive in the other search engines.
That's interesting.
Well, I'm I'm glad you asked that.
But your data set on the UNAs has not yet been integrated into Enoch.
You're kidding me.
I'm I'm not kidding you.
Oh, the answer you're getting is the is before your data set.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Because I was surprised like Chat GPT did not come out with a no, but basically came out with a well, why would they want to let everyone know?
Let me let me explain something.
Uh we're currently in a uh like the our the training of our Enoch model is currently paused.
We're waiting on a new data set because I'm currently processing like hundreds of millions of files because we acquired another new data set, and it's it's been jamming up my our entire network.
And I see I had to buy a lot of new storage.
In fact, um there's a shipment arriving today.
I also had to upgrade all the network switches.
I mean, wow.
There are so many bottlenecks in this.
I had to upgrade to 10 gig switches and then 10 gig network cards and then solid state storage for everything.
I've got 400 terabytes of NVMe storage on network storage devices now.
400 terabytes.
That's crazy.
And and it's small compared to what Elon Musk is doing.
But and then I find out that you know the switches can only pass 160 megabits per second.
Which you would think that's a lot.
It's not.
It's not.
When you're moving the number of files I'm moving, like, okay, we have to quadruple this.
And then I found I found a Netgear switch that'll do, I think 960 megabit, yeah, megabits per no, wait a minute.
Oh my god, no, that number should be gigabits.
160 gigabits per second, I think.
Oh my god.
Uh I think I'm off by orders of magnitude here.
Anyway, some of these switches will pass a terabyte a second through, you know, through through the the fiber optic uh connections.
Right.
And uh like I think about what I'm doing, and we have to keep upgrading it, and we're bottlenecked by uh actually the the network.
And I even created a subnet to have a totally different network just to certain storage devices.
And even that got jammed up.
But then what Google is doing and what what uh Elon is doing, they must be spending a billion dollars on crazy insane network switching devices and just you know 50,000 GPUs and server racks everywhere.
And I don't know where that's headed.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, what I can say is based upon what you just shared, everyone out there buy more food.
Buy more really good food for your body so you can become healthy.
I mean, Mike, that's crazy.
Thank you so much for investing all of that into us.
Because ultimately, we're trying, yeah.
Yeah, we're the ones who are benefiting, and you don't charge a thing.
Right.
It's free.
And and um as soon as we finish this next round of training, I'll announce it and it'll be enhanced with another expanded data set that will be quite remarkable.
And you know what's uh this is really interesting, Todd, and I think our guests would have appreciated this, but I think the peak of Western knowledge was the 1970s.
Could be.
Yeah, because that's when people actually had the highest average level of writing capability.
That's right.
Yeah.
After the 1970s, especially once we got rid of the bell bottom genes, everything went downhill from there.
But they also got rid of the tube tops, and that was a bummer.
Yeah, but you know, like polyester was the peak.
Of Western civilization.
It was polyester peak.
Polyester peak.
Yeah.
And since then it's all gone downhill.
Right.
But like I have a collection of newspapers from the 1950s and 1960s.
And Todd, if I sent you one of these PDFs, you'd be like, that's crazy.
That that reads like a college level economics course.
That was just the front page of the Cleveland paper or whatever.
Amazing.
You know, like that was normal to read and write at a high level in the 50s and the 60s and the 70s.
Today, that would be considered genius.
I remember in the 70s, man.
I I read a ton.
And it was always on the back of the cereal boxes that I would eat for breakfast in the morning.
That was my consumption of reading.
I'm kidding, guys.
Yes, that's right.
Um but if you if you try to train your model, like most AI models now are trained on Reddit, which is just, you know, really cognitive sewage.
Yeah.
Right.
And the reason Elon bought X was to take that and train AI models on X commentary, which is probably also a bad idea for humanity.
But if you come from that.
What?
What good jumps from that, Mike?
Yeah, no kidding.
But if you if you take human knowledge like pre-Obama.
Yep.
Pre-Obama, which is pretty much pre-woke for the most part.
Yeah, that's right.
He brought it all in.
Yeah.
So if you go pre-woke era, then it's actually pretty good.
So what we have acquired is a lot of older information from the 1970s and 1960s and so on.
That is actually the good shit for humanity.
Yeah.
Right.
That is really.
I mean, how do you go about finding that?
Yeah, it's a whole show.
Okay.
It's a it's a quest.
You got to go on a quest.
Okay.
The quest has challenges.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a it's a it's difficult, I will say.
Man, that's fascinating, Mike.
Yeah, and partially it's some part of it is legal too, actually.
But um anyway, um, no, I'm kidding.
It's all it's all legal.
Um, it's all fair use.
But yeah, we you can acquire vast archives of knowledge if you are determined to be able to do that.
Actually, you but the fact you are on purpose with intent for that quest is is so impresses me because you get it, you understand that that that post-woke uh is just dilutional for everything in our uh fr from an intelligence standpoint.
It's like also all the science.
If you could actually erase all the so-called science from 2009 to the present, yeah, that would benefit human knowledge.
Because it's all garbage, it's like climate garbage and vaccine garbage and pharmaceutical garbage and woke garbage.
Yep.
You know, there's hardly any good science that's been anyway.
Um I think we should also erase the IRS tax code.
What do you think about that?
Me too.
Me too.
You mean the IRS spell that they put us all under?
Yeah, you know, and wouldn't it be great to just have a way to a simpler way to deal with keeping what you earn, you know?
Keeping more of what you earn.
Right.
I wish there was a website out there where people could, you know, start their journey.
Only cover.
If only there were a website.
Um, Todd, you gotta give that's the best segue ever into your UNA.
Tell us about it, please.
Yes, yes.
If folks go to my 575E.com, uh, you will learn all about unincorporated nonprofit associations.
And what I encourage people to do is just start their journey on keeping more of what you earn.
If you are a W-2 earner, a 1099 earner, if you operate at LLC, if you own property, if you trade in crypto, if you have children, then you should at least go hit let's go on that page that Mike's shown right there,
and then you'll have a 90-minute video that is me interviewing Dennis Gray, who is the uh he he is he is the subject matter expert in the world on these unincorporated nonprofit associations and watch that and then there's a downloadable PDF, an inter a PDF to where it unpacks the 32 positive attributes of operating your own uh UNA.
I will tell you that, Mike, since I've started talking about this with you over uh uh like I think we're right around two years ago when I started talking about it.
Um I personally have helped 350 people acquire their UNAs.
We have a private telegram group that's uh well over 250 people in there that engage every single day on their continued journey of maximizing their unincorporated nonprofit association.
So all I suggest to people is start your journey by going to the website, watching the video, download the PDF, and then what a lot of people do, Mike, because I make this offer, um I'll I have in there where you can book uh one hour uh uh I'll just spill the beans here.
It's a one-hour conf consultation.
People are booking a 30-minute, but I always tell people when they get on that I book 30 minutes on your side, but on mine I book it for an hour, so there's no hard stop at a half past.
I will hang in there and answer all of your questions, no problem.
So like last week I had 35 consultations.
People are people are uh picking up what we're putting down here, and most of them are moving forward with the UNA, by the way.
Um and so that's kind of the process, Mike, and I will tell you uh out of all of the people that I've helped, there hasn't been a disgruntled one in the group.
So I think we're doing something right.
Yeah, you clearly you're doing something right.
And I I know some of the people that you have helped, or know I know of them.
And I know they're very very happy with what they've learned.
It's it's pretty astonishing, actually, with entirely lawful.
That's the thing.
There's a difference between tax evasion, which is illegal and tax avoidance, which is lawful.
I think it should be considered a sport.
I think all of you know, I think seriously, it's it's uh my boss for 23 years, you know, he's a illaire with a B, and he used to always talk about that as, you know, yeah, he had very complicated tax strategies, and he's like, you know, Todd, it's all about exploiting the ambiguity of the gray.
Oh, really?
Oh.
Well, no, but it it button.
That's not what this is, though.
No, no, it's doing it lawfully.
Right.
Right.
And so that's what I offer and we offer.
And uh and it helps support this show, guys.
It helps support my ability to be able to do this, and I'm just grateful.
And also I look, I think that it's really critical to have your assets in a vehicle where you have control, but your social security number is not tied to it.
You don't have legal ownership over it, but you have control.
Because, you know, I think we're headed for a financial reset.
And there's there are a lot of situations where the government could demand confiscation of your assets or confiscation of your crypto or confiscation of in history uh gold or whatever.
But if you don't own it, then you can honestly reply to the confiscation request.
I don't have that.
Very good point.
I mean, Nelson Rockefeller coined the phrase, own nothing, control everything, and this is exactly what he was talking about.
And it's interesting, Mike.
There um I I don't think we think about this much, but the demographic of those watching our show, it is all over the, I mean, from young to to really senior, right?
And what I have learned, especially last week in two different instances, is um I had a two different couples that want to be able to donate their home to their UNA because of the concern that one of them has to go into elder care and the IRS is getting so good at confiscating homes to pay for that elder care.
Whereas if you donate your home to a UNA, then there is nothing to confiscate.
But yet it doesn't disrupt the life of those who remain.
Does that make sense?
That makes total sense.
Again, there are legal strategies that you need to learn about.
So that's the website, my575e.com.
And uh again, Todd offers the consultations and his partner offers the service.
And Todd, I think I would suggest though, what you could do to even increase people's interest in this is you should give away a free set of self-walking underwear with every UNA.
And and I have the perfect slogan for it.
The perfect slogan in Latin it's a it's a variation on who benefits but with the implication that Paul mentioned it'd be uh self-walking underwear qui boner sorry sorry I sorry I I have a I have a twisted humor mind.
Oh this is why people fast forward to they just they just get the after party out of the way so that they can be get in a good mood.
I mean maybe we should start publishing these instead of on Mondays we should start publishing them on Fridays so people into the weekend just happy as plan.
Just have a collection of after-party bad humor.
Yeah.
But, okay.
All right.
All seriousness aside, there is no self-walking underwear.
But there is a UNA.
A lot of que boners.
Que boner.
It's like if you have a sophisticated escort who speaks Latin, you know.
There you go.
By the way, I speak pretty good or Spanish really well now.
I noticed that.
Yeah.
That's pretty amazing.
I'm happy on the back.
I mean, it's like I'm so fluent in it.
I've shown a lot of people that video.
Why don't you explain what you did, Mike?
So, yeah.
So, well, our guest today may not approve of this.
Well, we're taking our interviews and we're taking the highlights of our interviews.
And then we are using AI to translate them into a couple of different languages, including Espanol.
but the thing is that it it translates it makes Todd look like he's speaking Spanish with the lips lips perfectly matching perfect Espanol but and it's using your voice tone but it's he's speaking Spanish.
Literally I took that little three minute clip and I posted it to my Facebook page.
And I said I've been real working really hard on Spanish what do you think?
You kidding me I had people I had people calling my wife you know my wife's Russian I had people from Russia calling my wife saying oh my God I did not know that Todd spoke such eloquent Spanish.
Oh, dude, it'll do it in Russian, too.
Oh, that would be perfect.
We've got to do it in Russian for you.
Then you can give it to your wife's friends.
Yes.
Like, look, I mastered Russian, finally.
See what happens after 20 years of being married to this beautiful Russian woman?
It finally clicked.
Finally.
It's more than yet.
Maybe yet?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But see, this is the thing.
So AI technology can help us reach people in different languages with a message that's pro-humanity.
That's right.
So it's like, I feel like we have to...
sort of consciously use the tools to achieve our goals to helping humanity survive.
Yeah and that's why I asked him the Paul the question it's kind of this internal struggle right it's like it is yeah I kind of get it you don't want to dance with the devil right but I mean he said AI is the biblical beast so that gives me pause right if that's the case but then again the biblical beast used to be using credit cards the biblical beast used to be using a computer you know so it's right when I when I was young,
um, I was in middle school, and I had one of the first Apple II computers with a floppy disk drive.
Yeah, that was the beast.
And I brought it to school one day, and it was, I think it was one of the one of the teachers said, that's black magic.
Yeah.
How does it read from the floppy disk?
And I was like, it's not that magical.
Things slow as hell.
I mean, it's not that great.
Before this, we loaded programs off freaking tape drives, cassette tapes.
Yeah.
Like that's how far back I go on can be.
You would load a program from a cassette tape.
The cassette tape was the storage medium.
Like, that's not magic.
That's just crappy tech.
Right.
It's like the worst tech imaginable.
But oh, one one last thing I wanted to insert on the UNA, I wanted to clarify for people.
Sure.
There is a consultation fee if you want to book a personal meeting with me.
Oh but I give that back.
When it so it's 150 dollars.
Okay.
So if you move forward with the UNA, though, and most do, I'm just telling you, most do who get to that level.
Uh I just I give it back to them.
But if I do not, if you know this, Mike, because you're the one that said you need to charge something.
When I didn't charge anything, people didn't show up.
Seven out of ten thousand.
No, I know.
But the point is that all that a person is risking is 150 bucks to find out something that could be life-changing.
It's relevant to their own personal situation because we can take a deep dive into your personal, you know, operating reality.
All right.
And people are getting the real Todd Pittner, not the AI Avatar version, correct?
That's true.
That's true.
But I still speak speech.
You can speak Polish.
Okay, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.
Yes.
As we end out the show today, I'm gonna actually slap on that video here at the very end of you speaking Espanyol.
Uh we were interviewing Dr. Kaiser.
Yeah.
In that segment.
So she's speaking Spanish, and I'm speaking Spanish, and you're speaking Spanish.
It was awesome.
So let's let's end with that.
We'll call it a day.
Perfect.
All right.
Que boner, everybody, take advantage of it.
Enjoy the after party español AI lip sync.
It's like Milly Vanilli for interviews.
So cool.
Okay, here we go.
Enjoy it, and thanks for watching today.
Take care.
See you, everyone.
Diane, no olvides hablar también sobre la angiogénesis de BPC-157.
Sí.
Eso nos está ayudando a Todd y a mí.
A lo grande.
Bueno, entonces eso es lo que estaba sosteniendo.
BPC, ¿verdad, Todd?
Sí.
Bueno, así que esto es algo muy grande.
Entonces, lo que sucede con Todd, en primer lugar, es que tu cuerpo por sí solo, simplemente quiero que pienses que todos son como Todd.
Somos todos Todd, ¿verdad?
¿Por qué hice esto?
Simplemente me lo rocí en la nariz.
¿Por qué me sentí mucho mejor?
Y como dijo Mike antes, ¿por qué pude correr y no he podido trotar durante años?
Y lo mismo me pasó a mí.
¿Por qué pude recuperarme de una cirugía de espalda en un par de meses?
Y antes de que digan, oh, bueno, obviamente los péptidos no funcionaron porque tuviste una cirugía de espalda.
¡Gracias!
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