Shield Arms to unveil new modular 9mm pistol with ALUMINUM grip - Full interview
|
Time
Text
Welcome to today's interview on Brightown.com.
I'm Mike Adams and as you know I'm a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and I have long advocated for people to learn how to use firearms effectively and safely and to acquire them.
And a couple of years ago I switched from the SIG P320 platform which currently is making a lot of ways for having alleged problems with you know automatic discharge we'll talk about that but I switched to a Glock 43X that was made by a company called Shield Arms and today I have the CEO with me to talk about that.
Brandon Zaider joins us and Shield Arms makes the best, I'll tell you, the best magazines for Glocks.
And I'll tell you why because I have a very important story about that.
But welcome, Brandon.
It's great to see you today.
Thanks for having me, Mike.
Glad to be here.
I'm really glad to have you back.
It's been too long, I think, but I just want to tell you, actually, let me, a little I do.
That's your Glock 43X, and it's a fantastic firearm.
I love your magazines.
So thank you for putting that together.
Absolutely.
Happy to do it.
I want to get about your website, shieldarms.com, and I'd like you to just give a brief overview of what Shield Arms is all about.
I know I think you first got famous from actually the Steel Mags, but tell us what you're all about right now.
Yeah.
Well, we started the company in 2017 in my barn, and we really didn't do much with it until 2018.
We had our first sort of commercial success in 2019, which was actually we started out with mag extension.
I think you've got some of our mag extensions.
And then from there, we launched the folding lower receiver.
We were actually downselected by the US Army for our 9 mm system.
So we submitted to the Army Subcompact Weapons System trials and were downselected to go up against B and T and SIG and some other well-known companies.
So that was kind of our first splash onto the scene.
People were like, who's Shield Arms?
We've never heard of them before.
Fast forward, I think it was probably six or eight months after that.
And we announced the S15 magazine.
And that's really what kind of blew us up a little bit.
So when people hear Shield Arms today, they certainly think about the S15 magazine.
That's by far our most well-known and best-selling product, which is our 15-round magazine for the Glock 43X and the Glock 48.
Okay.
Is this that mag?
That's the magazine and that has one of our plus fives.
So that's actually a 20-round.
Okay, that's a 20-round.
Got it.
Yep.
Okay, I just got out of the package.
I actually haven't used this magazine.
But what I like about what you offer is you have a custom size Glock.
Well, let me just show it here.
So here's, you've got this pistol, which has the much shorter grip.
Right.
So it's easy to carry and because it's a Glock 43, it's extremely narrow, right?
So easy to carry appendix or outside the waistband, whatever.
And then you carry it with a standard magazine, which is here, right?
And then it doesn't stick out, correct?
Right?
Yep.
So you can just flush fitting 10 round magazine, but then all of our magazines fit in that same platform.
So your reload could be up to 30 rounds if you want.
That's what I wanted to mention.
So right.
So if I'm in a firefight and I blow through that, then you can take a much larger magazine and you can pop it in.
And that actually functions.
It does.
No problems.
And then, so Mike.
I've got some toys to show to you here today, but on that topic, launching soon are these two things.
So the longer the two magazines that you see here is a 30 round magazine.
Wow.
And then the shorter is a 20 round magazine.
So without having to put an extension on, we're now going to be bringing two more options in that whole family.
So we have a 10 rounder, a 15 rounder, a 20 and a 30 with extensions anywhere from two rounds all the way up to 10.
And they're all compatible with each other.
So you can mix and match, play tactical Barbie, but then configure basically as long a reload as you want.
Wow.
Those are coming soon.
I'll get these are actually the first time we've shown these, but I'll get you some samples of these soon.
We've been testing them and they're running great.
See, that's really amazing because I can see a lot of first responders doing something like putting one of those larger stacks on a vest where they do a reload from a vest.
Yeah.
And then wouldn't it be cool if you could use that same magazine in a carbine?
Again, prototype, but your S15 magazines, S10s, S30s, S20s.
are now going to work in a carbine, one of our folding nine millimeter carbines.
Oh, wow.
Is that the SA nine or is that something different?
The SA nine.
Okay.
We have currently on the market, we have the double stack Glock mag variant.
So the standard Glock mags, which would be your Glock seventeen, your Glock nineteen magazines.
And that's, so if you look at our website, that's what we're currently offering today.
Okay.
This is just a standard Glock magazine with one of our extensions on it.
Right.
But launching soon will be those twenty round magazines, the thirty round magazines, and then the SA nine variant that accepts them.
So if you're carrying a 43x.
Okay.
You're carrying a 48, one of our grip chopped S10s.
Those magazines are all cross-compatible at that point.
Okay.
Wow.
Number one, let me know when that's available, because I'll go on your website and purchase it and give you my FFL, et cetera.
Because see, so that opens up a world of possibilities to be able to carry one system of magazines that works both in your pistol and in your carbine.
And the carbine is foldable.
Again, can you show us again the folding mechanism of that?
Yep.
So this is our, what we call our FLR, and should be able to come through.
There we go.
Yep Yeah.
But you can see the button here.
Yeah.
And it's it's fenced in, so you're not going to accidentally hit it.
It's a steel catch and a steel insert.
When you hit this, you can then fold the system for storage.
That's really what it's for.
Throw this in a bag, under the seat in your truck, wherever you want.
You can see how tiny this system folds up.
Yeah.
And then it locks out solid.
Okay, now clearly, because I see the buffer tube still in the buttstock there, so you don't want to fire it in the folded position, correct?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, we tell people not to do it, of course, and then people do it.
You know, it will shoot once.
Yeah, I've actually done that with your 5.56 rifle.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you tested it.
So we tell folks not to do it.
It's not designed for it, but we know it's going to happen.
And so, you know, the system is robust, but eventually if you continue to do it, it will probably damage your lower receiver.
But there's not a lot of sort of utility in firing in this position here.
Right.
Utility comes from having an optics and being able to shoulder provide the stability that a rifle gives you and firing in the way it was designed.
Perfect.
Then also, another issue that's been resolved is the arm brace issue.
Now, that was huge.
And I know that, you know, the ATF madness under Biden that really hurt the sales of a lot of companies in the firearms space.
That has now been resolved, and that would not have happened if Kamala had been elected.
So that's one very positive thing about Trump winning the election.
I mean, we may criticize him on this or that or whatever, but thank God we have our arm braces back, right?
Yep.
So tell us about the arm brace options that you have for some of these platforms.
Also, you have a 5.56 rifle.
Yes.
So we offer these in pistol and rifle configuration.
This is the arm brace.
This is one of our SBA 3s.
We've got several options and if customers wanted a certain option, then we could certainly accommodate that, but this seems to be a lightweight, great option for folks.
And so we've kind of settled on these as being sort of the one that people tend to like the best.
It's fully adjustable.
And then, you know, it functions as an arm brace.
You know, if that's the way that you want to use it.
But then a lot of people are sticking it up here and using it as a stock.
I can't endorse that, but that's what happens.
Yeah, clearly.
And what's the barrel length on that unit right there?
Is that a 12 inch?
I believe this is one of our 7.5 variants.
Oh, that's 7.5.
Yeah, okay.
I see it now.
Wow.
Okay, so that's, and is that 5.56?
No, no, no.
This is a 9 mil.
Oh, this is a 9 mil.
Okay.
Sorry, I'm just not seeing it as clearly as I would like.
Sorry.
Okay, got it.
Well, that makes more sense on the barrel length then.
Okay.
Yeah, 7.5 inches on a 5.56.
I know some folks do that, but...
yeah i wouldn't like that either full powder burn and no that's not a great option no no no i totally agree okay Okay, so perfect.
Then, oh, and let me mention too, I always, in full transparency, this is not a paid appearance.
You don't pay us anything.
You have given me some evaluation samples in the past, but most importantly, you have extended a discount code to our audience.
And I want to give that out, and I don't earn anything on that discount code.
It's Ranger.
So, everybody, if you go to shieldarms.com and if you use discount code Ranger, then you'll save, what's the current savings, $50 or $100 on certain rifles?
What is it?
I believe so.
I should have looked that up before I came on, but that's been running for a while now.
And from what I understand, it's just running.
I think it's 50 on a pistol and 100 off of a rifle.
And I think it's 10% off everything else in your store, including the magazines.
Is that right?
I'll make a note to check on that.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Well.
I'll tell the audience.
Use code ranger and save some money.
Yeah, use code ranger, save some money.
And no, I don't earn anything off of that.
But again, you have in the past sent me some samples for evaluation.
And I very much appreciate that.
But for your new, for your SA9, I will buy that from you.
you so just let me know and seriously i i mean i'll just go online and order that because i really want to support your company want to keep you in business let me tell you a really important story here we'll talk about glocks and then we want to talk about the sig p320 but years ago the reason i stopped carrying a glock is because the glock polymer magazines have a problem in my experience and i want to show the audience this
indentation right here this is the mag release catch indentation well it's really more of a just like a hollow point in this steel mag.
Now, when you're using polymer mags, that indentation over time, if you carry your gun every day, like I do, everyday carry, no exceptions.
Weekends, everything, you name it, right?
What I found out is on the polymer mags, that thing gets worn out and it wears an angle in it.
And then when you fire your first shot, the magazine drops out.
And I've experienced that myself.
That's why your steel mags are a game changer for me because the steel mags never have that problem.
And I've been carrying your gun for a couple of years.
So for me, your steel mags made a massive difference.
That's when I switched from SIG to Glock was because of your magazines.
It wasn't the capacity for me.
It was the fact that they don't fall out, which is pretty important.
And then since then, there's been a lot of buzz about SIG and the P320 having an accidental discharge under certain conditions.
Just for the record, SIG has denied that it's any problem at all, but There are gun ranges banning the P320s now.
A lot of videos about it.
Brandon, what's your take on the SIG P320 controversy versus the Glock trigger safety?
Well, it's complicated.
What I will tell you is that we don't make any products for the P320 platform.
We used to make MAG extensions, but we stopped doing that years ago.
We don't make any products for that system at all.
So far from an expert, since we don't specialize in that platform, we don't tear them apart and study them and do all the things that we do with our engineering team.
But it seems like from the reports that we're hearing that there's something, like you said, there's a whole lot of, you know, there's the Air Force investigation.
There's a bunch of police departments that have put out notices and they're stopping to use a lot of ranges.
some friends of mine who are firearms instructors.
So I don't know what the underlying issue is, if anything, but there's, So people are looking for fire.
Now, I've seen a bunch of these tests on YouTube.
I get sent those a lot from buddies or industry people.
Some of them look pretty ridiculous.
And then some of them.
look like, well, there may be something there.
So my general take is we're not P320 experts.
We don't make products for the P320, nor do we have any plans to.
Okay.
Well, fair enough.
And look, I carried the P320 for many years and never had an issue with it.
and I carried it hot, right?
And I noticed that in those online videos, I don't know.
Some of those tests look flawed to me.
Again, I don't want to get into the specifics of whatever.
But what I will tell you is that it seems like the design of the P 320 striker holds the striker in the fully tensioned position.
Right.
Whereas a Glock does not.
Glock is in a partially tensioned position.
You know, in addition to all of the different internal safeties in a Glock, that trigger pull is what finalizes the striker pulling back into the fully tensioned position.
So.
Not to say that fully tensioned systems are all bad, you know, inherently, that's certainly not something I would ever say, but I think that that's maybe a contributing factor if if it's proven that there is a problem which to be fair to sig i don't know that anybody has proven that yet yeah um we're gonna have to see how this plays out yeah absolutely but i i will say that i now have extra appreciation for the glock trigger safety yes it just it gives me an extra sense
of comfort and safety knowing that even that trigger can't be pulled back unless that trigger safety is depressed is depressed.
And since I didn't have the SIG variety that has the thumb safety for the military...
Just like it's an extra thing to remember, you know?
But Glock has the trigger safety, which is absolutely perfect.
So I think you're smart that you're sticking with the Glock platform.
Okay.
Thanks for covering that.
And I guess the conclusion to the audience is let's wait and see what some of these investigations turn up.
Yep.
I mean, I like to think the best of people.
I like to think that if there is a, there was a, is currently, was in the past some flavor, a problem that SAG would have addressed it.
So, I mean, benefit of the doubt.
Let's see how that plays out.
I would want the same if someone accused one of our systems as being unsafe.
Yeah.
Well, Sid, they did have an early recall, I think, on the first P320.
Yeah, it was a voluntary recall.
Yeah.
It was a voluntary recall for dropping, which I suppose could be related.
But the issue that we're hearing now, and again, these are all allegations, but what we're hearing now is that this gun wasn't dropped.
Is that the latest?
The Air Force gun?
Yeah, that it wasn't dropped.
Yeah.
But who knows?
Maybe they got a bunch of weeds stuck up under the trigger with a partial pull.
Because, you know, I carry my stuff on my ranch, and you wouldn't believe how dirty these get.
In fact, I cleaned this up before today's interview, because otherwise it was very dusty.
But you know what I always do?
When I go out to my private pistol range, I always fire it, you know, dirty.
way i carry it sure to make sure right and then I and then I clean it after that and of course it's never never failed to fire all right The industry, the firearms industry right now arguably is hurting because we don't have a Democrat president that's trying to ban guns, right?
Right.
So nobody's panicked at the moment about buying guns, which means like this is the best time to actually purchase firearms because they're available.
Can you speak about the industry trends right now?
Sure.
Yeah.
So summer is always a slow time for the firearms industry.
That's historical, virtually year after year after year.
COVID was a little bit of an anomaly.
And then, yeah, we're in Trump slump 2.0.
I think this was the worst, this previous quarter was the worst quarter since the last Trump administration.
So yeah, gun sales are down.
That's no surprise to anybody that's following the industry.
If you're in the industry, you know, it's a it's an obvious thing.
Sure.
Yeah.
I was just saying that the the industry as a whole is down right now.
And that's like you mentioned, partially due to the fact that nobody's out there trying to ban guns right now and there really isn't any national emergencies.
And then the other factor is that it's summer.
So it's kind of a it's kind of a perfect storm right now.
Yeah.
Indeed.
What's your take on the status of the NFA?
Because of course, you know, recently we I know you don't you don't make suppressors, but apparently the $200 tax stamp.amp will be removed starting January.
So a lot of people are going to line up to buy suppressors.
But why should we have to go through?
Why should we even have to get a tax stamp in the NFA and all that garbage in the first place when we're already filling out forms and getting fingerprinted for the concealed carry and all that?
What do you, what do you make of all that?
Well, I think it's in, it's nonsense.
It's a law that we are forced to follow right now.
But I saw that the FPC, the Firearms Policy Coalition, recently filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality based on the fact that there's, it's nos no longer a tax.
And so what they're calling it is what it is, which is a gun registry.
So I am hopeful that that lawsuit is going to have some legs.
I think it will have some legs.
And I think there are other groups beyond the FPC that are either involved in that or planning on joining that because, you know, industry wide, imagine if you could just walk into a gun shop with your concealed carry and pick up a suppressor.
Well, I would even go one step further.
Why do we need to regulate them at all?
They're just, they're just safety devices.
All they're doing is it's making your firearm less loud.
Yeah, even better.
It doesn't, you know, this nonsense that it makes them Hollywood quiet, I mean, you know, that's nonsense.
Yeah.
All it's doing is it's making it so that it's damaging your ears less.
And the, you know, the noise pollution, you know, you can go on and on and on about the benefits of suppressors.
So why do we need to regulate them at all?
They're just an accessory that...
So why are we serializing them to begin with?
Well, exactly right.
I mean, let me give you a personal true story about that.
So I jog with my dog and I've set up a bunch of steel targets along my jogging path.
And I take a big honken 45 auto to keep it subsonic with a suppressor on it.
And so I jog and plink.
I'm hammering targets and jogging to the next one and hammering targets.
My dog's with me.
I don't want to hurt my dog's ears.
And I don't want to have to wear all this hearing protection either.
So I just wear minimal protection.
The report is hardly anything.
I mean, I can still hear it, but it's not going to damage my ears.
And then the 45 rounds are subsonic.
So I'm just hearing metal, you know, I'm hearing the metal pinging, which is correct.
Like that's what we're supposed to hear.
That's another reason why we need suppressors.
Makes your exercise more quiet.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't understand the need to regulate that product at all.
So my step.
Okay.
Well said.
All right.
So what's next on the drawing board?
You already mentioned the SA9 that will carry the Glock 43X magazines or the Shield Arms magazines that are compatible with the Glock 43.
What else is on your drawing board?
Yeah, so big products.
We got a bunch of them.
Some I can't tell you about yet, but one I'm going to show you today.
So we started working on our own pistol.
Boy, it's been about two years now.
We've been working on this for a while.
We started with the magazine, the SFT magazine, making them for Glocks.
That's actually the the backwards way of doing things.
You typically want to develop your magazine and then your frame around the magazine doing them together.
We took an existing frame on the market, reverse engineered it, made a magazine for it.
It's actually very difficult.
So we started designing our own pistol and what we've come up with is a modular system.
So this is our chassis.
Whoa.
This is the gun.
And then what we have done is we have created our own modular system where the firearm fits into the grip module.
And then you can build it out into multiple configurations.
This is our S-10 variant.
So this is the small version.
This is a 10-round magazine.
You'll notice that it looks very Glockish because the top end is Glock compatible.
Oh really?
Yeah, it goes all the way up to this is our Glock 48 size.
Okay.
So you'll also notice that the last one was plastic and that this one, if it comes through, this is aluminum.
Oh, no kidding.
So what we have created, we call the modular pistol system, MPS.
And we will be launching this either late Q4 or early Q1.
And this will be, like I said, Glock top end compatible with multiple components.
You'll have every Glock safety component, but instead of running Glock magazines, it runs all of our S fifteen, S ten, S thirty, S twenty magazines and all of our extensions.
Okay, wow.
So wait a second.
So 100% compatible with Glock slides?
I don't want to say 100%, but I think it's I think so.
We've gone back and forth on a couple of pieces like the slide stop, but for the most part, you're going to be able to slap your Glock top end right on this system.
Okay, wow.
And then can you show us the firearm the serialized firearm piece again the chassis this is the chassis okay so this has the serial number this is the firearm that's regular this is the firearm this is the piece that you need to have you know an FFL sell to you and you know go through the background check etc but then once you've got this you can take whatever top ends you want and whatever grip modules you want So for example,
this is what's going to, this is what our first gun is going to look like.
This aluminum, it's in the raw.
It's not going to be this color, it'll be black, but this is aluminum.
Wow.
And this is what the Glock 43x size gun is going to look like with a slide on it, of course.
But then there's going to be all kinds of other options.
And so a person can just buy these different lowers just online.
Yep.
These can be shipped right to your door, the modules.
Right, right.
The firearm is the chassis piece.
So a person can also, of course, buy the Glock slides over the counter online, lots of places, and then they can buy these lowers from you or you, I'm sure you would, you sell the, Yeah.
You'll be able to do the builder bear you know you'll be able to go out and build one out yourself.
Wow.
So this is a Glock 43x size.
This is our grip module.
This is a Glock OEM top end just slapped right here.
And then you can see that it's got one of the aim point red dots.
And then this is a radian comp on the front.
So lots of aftermarket support for people to build these out however they want.
You still get all the Glock safeties, but you're getting what we believe is to be is you know much much better quality we're going to launch with aluminum and then plastic will follow after that but you can see we've done things like ergonomic improvements you've got an improved uh beaver tail oh yeah see that's that's one thing that sig did really well on the 365 for example that beaver tail made
a huge difference with accuracy it does this will be compatible with aftermarket Glock triggers.
So if there's a Glock trigger that you really like, you know, throw it in the system works just fine.
Wow.
We're going to have different grip module sizes.
Yeah.
And then some of our grip modules themselves will be modular with removable, replaceable back straps, panels, et cetera.
So there's a lot of modularity built into the system.
And then I can't give you names yet, but then there's also a whole lot of third party aftermarket support coming for the same system.
So people from other companies are also building parts for this MPS system.
So there's going to be lots of options for folks.
If you want to just buy a gun and forget about it, we've got you covered.
But if you want to go and mix and match and sort of customize something and make it what you're going to have a lot of options.
Yeah, and it's also important because in a lot of jurisdictions, it's much more difficult to purchase firearms than it is in Texas where I live.
And so you may want to have the convenience of just having one serialized component, but then one day you might want to carry concealed with a much smaller profile.
And then another day or around your home, you might want to have a much larger frame with a larger capacity.
Yeah, you can go from, you know, these are the same system.
You can go from a sort of a full-size Glock 48 style.
all the way down to this very very small 10 round system which conceals quite nicely wow and obviously different barrel length in these as well different barrel length i'm not sure if it's coming through okay but different barrel lengths different grip lengths and then different grip sizes as well okay that's great and can you also show us that aluminum grip again because i noticed the stippling on it So you've been able to machine this with the textures that are needed for control.
Yep.
So the part that's up against your skin, there's texture here, but it's not, it may on the camera, it might look sharp.
It's not sharp at all.
So that part when you're carrying up against your body is not going to irritate your skin.
But this front and this back back straps, or I guess they're not back straps, the front and the back though are much more aggressive.
And so when you're gripping this, it really locks your hand in.
Feels really, really good.
That's right.
But yeah, I mean, we I think we've worked on this for quite a while.
I think we did a great job on it.
No, I'm looking forward to that because here in Texas, I'm often sweating.
You know, when I need to use a firearm and sweat will make it slip.
Can you show it one more time?
Also looks like you have a slightly flared mag well.
Yep.
There is an internally flared magwell.
So you can see when you hit this ramp.
that's going to funnel you into the...
Wow.
Well, they're going to have lots of options for folks.
Okay.
I love the ergonomics of it.
I mean, that looks amazing.
Let me ask you about the speed of being, you know, taking down a pistol and taking out that chassis.
How difficult is that for a typical user?
It's one of the easiest systems out there.
So there's a bunch of different modular systems.
We by no means came up with that.
You know, the P 320 we were just talking about is a modular system, P 365 There's a bunch of them out there.
This one is, we think, one of the easiest to take down.
So you're going to lock your slide to the rear.
I don't have one to show you right now, but you're going to lock your slide to the rear.
You're going to pull your locking lever out, pull your slide off, and obviously you've got to clear your gun first, and then from there you're going to be able to just pop your your chassis out okay wow drop it into the next frame drop it into the next frame okay wow very cool okay so you said maybe end of this year or early next year is when you're expecting that end of q4 beginning of q1 okay cool and uh you said there's things you can't tell us about also but
i imagine you're also working on on things in the carbine and the rifle formats that, because you're always innovating, you know?
I appreciate that.
We have some cool stuff coming.
I'm very excited.
Okay, I can't wait.
2026 is going to be a big year for us.
Okay, very cool.
All right.
So what do you make of the fact that, for example, some of the magazine capacity laws in certain states are being thrown out or challenged?
You know, we already talked about the NFA.
Do you think the overall legal environment for firearms with also some recent Supreme Court decisions is becoming much more amenable for customers?
It seems to be heading that direction, which is great.
I would like to see national reciprocity for carry laws.
I would like to see, you know, a lot of the what I consider to be unconstitutional laws struck down.
So I think we still have a long ways to go.
But certainly under the Trump administration, it has been a much friendlier environment to gun owners.
Yeah, that's true.
But the thing is, you won't have another massive surge in sales until there's a the way it always is.
Yeah, but I think so our approach to that is, I don't know if it's unique, but it's just our approach.
We kind of think that innovation outstrips any of that sort of slow time.
seasonality, if you will, of the firearms industry.
It's been very cyclical in nature.
And our answer to that has always been just make cool stuff.
So we've tried to do that.
We're going to continue to try to do that.
And I think the modular pistol system plus the next product that's coming right behind that is they're going to be quite popular.
So, you know, it's slow in the firearms industry right now, but we are really looking forward to the, you know, six months from now when that system's on the market.
Are there any other benefits over a Glock for your modular system other than the modularity of it?
And that you already mentioned the aluminum frame.
Is there anything else we should be aware of?
So I would say the big wins are, of course, the modularity, being able to mix and match and carry a different system from time to time if you want.
The ability to put on an aluminum lower, it's only about a 2 ounce weight penalty over plastic, but you get a lot more rigidity.
We think that they're softer shooting.
So some folks have trouble shooting these smaller pistols, really depends on your grip strength, your hand size and a whole bunch of different factors.
But that extra rigidity seems to really help people present and put rounds on target quicker.
So that's a benefit over the other systems and then we think that the ergonomics let me see if I can pull an example here for you but um you know with the increased beaver tails and just the the ergonomics of the system we think that that's an added benefit as well and that's gonna you know it's gonna be up to the individual some people are gonna love the feel of the Glock system but that's traditionally one of the things that folks complain about is that Glocks feel blocky.
And then lastly, and this I put this in last place because it doesn't really matter, but to some it does, you know, aesthetically, they just look cool.
Can you show me where your middle finger goes right up under the trigger in the trigger guard?
I want to see that geometry.
Oh, I think that's so smooth and it's rounded out.
It's an undercut.
Yeah.
So there's room.
I have kind of fatter fingers and there's room for your finger.
And there's no pinch.
It's a very smooth out undercut trigger guard Okay, because that's been one of my complaints about Glocks is it's hard to get your hand higher up so that it's more straight behind the slide.
Yeah.
I think you can get a really high grip on this gun.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah, it looks likeoks like it.
And again, okay, well, I'm sold, right?
So as soon as you have one, I'll get one from you.
And I'll go out and try to do some rapid fire exercises and see about control, you know, recoil control.
That should be really interesting.
Okay, very cool.
All right.
So again, the website, folks, is shieldarms.com.
Here it is.
They've got magazines for all Glock models right now.
They've got mag extensions.
They've got the steel mags that I absolutely love.
That's all I carry.
They've got these grip chopped Glocks, or they can chop your Glock.
You want to talk about the Glock Chop service?
Yeah, so it's a cool little service that we launched.
You know, the S fifteen had a lot of the success, but there are people that do find the Glock 43x to be too big to carry in certain situations.
We live in Montana, nobody here worries about printing or, you know, people seeing your gun or whatever it is, but in some places that's a real concern.
And in.
There are certain people that do things around the world that's a real concern.
And so we had some folks come to us and say, love the 43x with the S fifteen, but it's just too big.
So we came up with the ten round version of the S fifteen, just shortened it.
And then we said, well, we'll just chop this, the 43x down to give people a very small carry package.
So this is one of our grip chopped 43xes.
This is in our Montana mud colorway.
We've got a bunch of different colors and we've got black if people just want black.
But you can buy them like this, already created from us, or you can send your pistol in and we'll do what we call our grip chop service.
And that's availilable right on our website.
It's really easy to do.
And we turn those around in just a few days, so it's pretty fast.
And that's you'll see that.
That's the same as this one, right?
Yeah, it'll be the same size.
And if you want us to paint it, we can, but you can see that this one we put a mag well on.
It's got our mag catch.
This one has a Meriglow sights.
And then it's one of our paint jobs.
This is another one of our paint jobs.
We call this one Fallout.
This one's pretty cool.
But paint is not, you know, it's not needed, of course, but it's just something that makes us a little bit unique.
But yeah, I like that.
The grip shop service has been really popular.
So I know you partner with Glock on a lot of these pistols, but why wouldn't Glock release their own chopped version of the 43X?
I mean, I'm just wondering.
I don't know.
Yeah, so we don't, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why Glock doesn't do certain things, but we did.
Okay.
All right, fair enough.
All right.
What about, are you going to do you going to do pistols in any other calibers?
Are you going to expand into other calibers that you don't currently cover?
So currently plans are nine millimeter only and that's because nine millimeter comprises depending on which numbers you look at, I've seen estimates up to 90 percent of the market.
So yes, there are other things in the well, I'll say there are a few ten millimeter projects on the stack in different various places because that's around that we love.
But for now, the MPS is going to come out in nine mil only.
Okay, all right.
Well, nothing wrong with that.
I think nine mil is what we've all stockpiled.
And also want to mention that right now is a great time to buy ammo too because Trump just put a 50% tariff on copper imports.
That's going to make many rounds much more expensive towards the end of this year and next year if that tariff stays in place.
And also since the great majority of people are not panicked buying ammo right now, it's a great time to get ammo.
Man, there has hardly been a better.
time to buy ammo.
I don't know that I've seen ammo this cheap since way before COVID.
So right there with you.
This is a great time to buy.
Anybody that's not bought all the ammo that they want to shoot for the next couple of years, I think is silly and they need to fix that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And again, the time to buy is when most people aren't thinking about it.
Yes.
It's the same.
You don't want to wait until there's a national emergency or some sort of panic and then try to get in line somewhere.
Do it now.
Buy the ammo you need.
Exactly.
And I do believe also that was it the ninth circuit that overruled the California law requiring ammo to be sent to an FFL?
Yeah, I saw there was some drama about that.
Some of the companies were pulling back and saying they weren't.
We don't sell ammunition online.
So that didn't affect us and we didn't have a legal review on that, but I don't know if that stayed or not.
Yeah, I'm not sure either, but I saw that there were a lot of ammo companies initially saying, we're going to ship.
We're going to ship to California, ship to your house now.
So I'm sure it was Brownells.
I think it was Brownells came out and said that they were, and then there was, I think they had to pull back.
Don't quote me on that.
Yeah, I'm not sure either.
Okay.
So Brandon, is there anything else that I haven't asked you about that you want to cover here before we wrap this up?
Oh man, Mike, there's a bunch of cool stuff.
I'm just going to have to come back on in a year, six months and show you, but there's a bunch of things I just can't release.
quite yet.
No worries.
You've already given us a lot to think about right here.
And, you know, can't wait for your new items to come out.
That's going to be great.
You'll see these 20 and 30 round magazines will be first followed by the SA 9 S that accepts them.
So I'll make sure you get samples of those.
And then, like I said, the MPS, the full modular system, we're targeting the end of this year or beginning of next year.
Okay.
Any supply chain problems with that?
Are you able to get the components you need?
Yeah, we' have not had any issues.
Okay, very cool.
Let's hope it stays that way.
Brandon, thank you so much for spending time with us and giving us a demo of your latest goods.
And I just want to say to the audience, you know, you're my go-to company for carry pistols for all the reasons we've talked about here.
I've been very happy with what you've been able to make, and I can't wait for what you have coming out later this year or early next year.
Absolutely.
Thanks for having me, Mike.
It's been great to work with you guys.
And like I said, I'll get you samples and we'll be in touch.
All right.
That's awesome.
Looking forward to it.
So everybody, shieldarms.com is the website and if you use the discount code Ranger, you'll save some money on everything they sell.
And no, we don't earn anything off that.
That's just a discount that extends to you.
But I believe Brandon said he was going to give me samples of some of the magazines, so I certainly welcome that for evaluation.
But I will buy your carbine when it comes out, like I said.
So just let me know.
Deal.
Or I'll trade you.
I don't know.
I'll give you a food credit for carbine credit or something.
We'll swap.
What about that?
I love barter.
We should absolutely do that.
Okay.
I'll totally do that.
I'll give you a store credit or whatever works.
All right.
That's the economy right there.
All right.
Thank you, Brandon.
And thank you all for watching today.
Mike Adams here, Brighton.com, interview with SHIELDARMS.com.
And thank you for all your support.
And everybody, my last message is don't just buy a firearm and stick it in the closet and not practice using it.
You need to put, you know, thousands of rounds through it over time.
You need to get proper training, proper, you know, keep your finger off the damn trigger training, you know, that kind of thing.
Be safe with your firearms.
Keep them away from children.
Obviously, all these basic things.
You know, know the four basic rules of firearms handling and safety.
Practice, practice, practice practice you can even do a lot of dry fire practice because when the day comes that you need this you're not going to be able to go out and practice easily on that day you need these to be built-in skills that become second nature so get yourself some training and start practicing right now and you'll be ready when the zombies come all right thanks for watching take care everybody when you're ready for the cleanest most nutrient dense foods and superfoods and nutritional supplements personal care products Do
yourself a favor, do your health a favor, and shop with us at healthrangerstore.com.
We have our own mass spec laboratory where we do our own in-house testing for heavy metals, for glyphosate, for bacteria, yeast and mold and E. coli and salmonella and so much more.
We do more extensive testing for the cleanliness and the authenticity of foods than any other company that I've ever heard of.
And you can get all of this right now, the cleanest, most nutrient dense foods.
at healthrangerstore.com plus all these amazing categories.
We've got personal care solutions for you from toothpaste and shampoo and body soap to prepare us items such as freeze-dried fruits and superfoods in number 10 cans that are sealed and good for very long-term shelf stable storage.
We've got home care products such as cleaning concentrates and laundry detergents, automatic dishwasher detergent, and so on.
And of course, we never use fragrance chemicals.
We never use artificial dyes.
We never use fillers or garbage or anything like that.
Nearly everything that we sell is certified organic and non-GMO.
And even our vitamin C is non-China vitamin C, non-GMO vitamin C. So shop with us, you'll be glad you did, and we have freeze-dried tart cherries available right now in number 10 cans and in pouches.
And those are delicious, you can eat them like snacks.