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Aug. 6, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Jeffrey Prather reveals shocking truths about the FBI’s international deep state spying...
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Welcome to today's interview on BryTown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, and today we're joined by America's intelligence officer, Jeffrey Prayther, a multiple returning guests here because he's been there.
He knows how the system works, a former DEA and DIA in many different aspects.
His career spanned a couple of decades.
And today he's going to give us his analysis of why is our FBI opening an office in New Zealand of all places.
So welcome our guest, Jeffrey Prather.
Mr. Prayther, it's an honor to have you on today, sir.
Welcome back.
Hey, Mike, thanks for having me back.
It's great to have you back.
As soon as I saw this news that the FBI under Kash Patel was opening an office in New Zealand, I, of course, tweeted out, the FBI has no jurisdiction in New Zealand.
And how is this shutting down the FBI, which is what Patel promised to do on day one?
But now that he's running it, he's expanding it, obviously.
What is going on here?
Well, Patel, unfortunately, is a panderer and Bongino is a blatherer.
And they are not contracting the deep state at all.
They are expanding it.
And so what's going on here is in every embassy, there are FBI special agents.
They're DEA special agents.
Those are part of the liaison staff.
I was also a defense attaché officer, although I never served in that role.
Everybody's in the embassy because everybody has a deal.
But to put an FBI legat with a legal attache in a standalone position signifies a much larger presence in New Zealand than ever before.
And I saw this because, of course, the DEA and the FBI have always been alongside each other.
We both go to Quantico.
I actually went through the FBI Academy in 1990.
They hadn't built the DEA Academy back then where everybody, all the other 1811 special agents go through Glencoe, Georgia, through the Fletse Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy.
So the DEA and the FBI are kind of the elite of the 1811 Corps.
And what I noticed about this was I'm quoting the newzealand.us embassy.gov slash FBI open standalone office.
So I'm quoting the government here as a milestone in U.S. New Zealand law enforcement and intelligence cooperation.
And Wellington is the capital, New Zealand.
FBI Director Cash Patel traveled to New Zealand this week to open a dedicated law enforcement attaché office, which is a legat, legal attaché.
They've had FBI's histation personnel in New Zealand for several years, but they're establishing a full league at position with their own building.
It's kind of like where Bongino and Patel were saying, hey, you're demoing the old headquarters.
And they played that up when actually I showed very clearly that that had been going for a long time.
And so they were purposefully misleading everybody because that had already been scheduled for Demo.
Actually, the FBI is getting two new headquarters, one bigger than the Pentagon and another off-site.
Bigger than the Pentagon.
It is, yes.
And so, but in the statement, it says, establishing fully got position in a country will strengthen and enhance the long-standing cooperation with the key five I's partners in the southwestern Pacific region.
Now, the five I's are what I refer to as the global cabal.
The double state, the double state, deep state government is the intelligence community.
And the global cabal at its lowest level is the deep state double governments of each country, which are the five I's, which is the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
So even in the statement, it admits that he's doing this for the five I's, but then it switches immediately and says, we've cooperated in a relationship for a long time, and we're going to investigate crime.
And this will also extend to disrupt a wide range of criminal activities.
They start off with criminal activities because they still want to present the cover story, the storefront for the FBI.
It's a law enforcement organization.
It's not a law enforcement organization.
It's an intelligence organization with a law enforcement function that is the cover function for the deep state.
I've said this many times.
A covert operation run in federal law enforcement is called a SARC, a special activities review committee.
And so they start off saying criminal activities, including terrorism, which actually is counterintelligence and special operations, cyber crime and fraud, organized crime and money laundering, child exploitation, and foreign intelligence threats.
At the end, they put the foreign intelligence threats.
And then they say New Zealand, Antarctica, Samoa, Nui, Cook Islands, and Tonga will cover Antarctica is also especially important for everything that's going on there.
But why does the F, to answer your question, why does the FBI need a full legal attaché office?
Why don't you just have a couple of special agent investigators to liaise on with locals?
Well, it has come out that the U.S. has a secret U.S. military spying operation in New Zealand, in Waihopai, which is a river in New Zealand.
And so the deep state script is that the U.S. is running covert satellite spy operations inside a foreign allies intelligence community without the permission of that government, focused on military kinetics, drone assassinations, and the taxpayers are paying for it.
And because that has now come out, and I'll explain that even more, but that results in illegal satellite spy operations and drone kills.
And Patel, who was on the International Security Council under Trump's first administration, knew all about this.
And so my conclusion is, and I'll go into this more though, is that Patel and Trump are not contracting or weakening the deep state, the intelligence community, the Global Cabal.
They are expanding it because this is going to include autotonomous AI targeteering for nuclear weapons via nuclear submarines.
Okay.
Wow.
There's a lot to unpack there, Jeffrey.
But I really appreciate your analysis.
I don't think there's anybody who could cover this better than what you're doing.
So I guess my initial thinking that they need to open up an office in New Zealand because they're hunting for the Epstein files in the Hobbit houses there.
I guess that's wrong.
I don't think they care about the Epstein files.
They're not under a rock in New Zealand where they film Lord of the Rings.
So right now, I mean, let me zoom out here and express the fact that, you know, the U.S. is at war with the world economically, currency-wise, and now increasingly with military posturing like Trump announcing he's moving the two Ohio-class submarines, et cetera.
But the U.S. seems to be losing that war because there are many countries like India and China are saying we don't care about these tariffs.
We don't care.
We're not going to stop buying oil from Russia, for example, or gas.
The EU buys all kinds of gas from Russia.
Every effort that Trump is making for world domination is actually boomeranging back in his face right now.
And the message from the non-Western world, the UK being the exception, and the EU, because Trump did fillet von der Leyen there with that recent trade deal.
But the rest of the world is saying, we don't care what the U.S. says anymore.
The U.S. doesn't control us.
Is that, you think, is that a proper context for what's shaping up here?
Or how would you alter or push back on what I just said?
No, I would have to agree with that.
And I'd have to say, though, that Trump is captured.
The Congress and Senate are captured.
And they're captured by a lot of our foreign adversaries, but mainly they're captured by Israel.
And so this suits Israel's purpose because continuing to weaken America fits along with the Greater Israel project because America needs to fall.
Christians need to fall as well.
So I agree with you, but it's important to understand that this IG report that came out through the CHQ, I'm sorry, the GSCB out of New Zealand was an IG report talking about this Operation Iron Sands.
And they found out that a foreign partner, unnamed, and it's the NSA, obviously, has been collecting foreign and domestic intelligence through an intelligence SIGINT signals intelligence program inside the New Zealand station.
And this program, it looks like this is the NSA's apparition system, which was first used by spy satellites to geolocate targets during GWAT.
And I'm wearing my GWAT pocket square there just to say I'm a veteran of GWAT, government war on terror.
And the IG report said the capability clearly had the potential to be used in conjunction with other intelligence sources to support military action against targets.
So what that means is targeting targets, satellite targets, and drone kills.
But neither, nobody notified the Australian, the New Zealand minister to seek approval.
So this was a covert operation inside the New Zealand government, where the New Zealand intelligence apparatus was reporting directly to the U.S. intelligent apparatus.
Wow.
Which exactly is what the deep state and global cabal is, that they're not reporting to anybody in their chain of command.
So I talk about this all the time.
And this is evidence of that.
And this is also kind of like what happened in Pine Cap.
Pine Cap even has movies and TV shows now about it in Australia, where the NSA was doing the same thing through the Australians.
Can I jump in here?
Sure.
Real quick, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the increased interest regionally there, I'm guessing, but you correct me if I'm wrong.
The U.S. needs to maintain its and assert its control pressure over the Philippines to make sure that the Philippines stay as a strong ally.
But then also, it seems like this is all posturing up for an eventual conflict with China.
You are exactly right.
You are exactly correct.
And so this apparatus, this apparation system is clearly to support military operations and it supports satellite operations and support nuclear submarine operations.
And that is to put pressure on China.
So this is not de-escalation of anything.
This is escalation towards nuclear conflict.
Now, I still don't say there's going to be nuclear conflict.
There may have been a nuclear artillery round set off that caused those tsunamis off of Russia.
That's what the signature from my sources look like.
But this is escalating all of this.
And this is also being used.
The apparatus analysis system enables precise geolocation of targets and is used for U.S. forces in capture-kill operations and lethal drone strikes against U.S. targets in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, and now Gaza as well.
And so, of course, Netanyahu has just decided that he's going to have a permanent military presence in Gaza and just announced that.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that he's announcing that at the same time Patel is announcing an FBI league at attaché in one of the five eyes because this Iron Sands operation got found out.
But the new FBI league is there so that they don't get found out.
So it ends up like a Hunter laptop.
It gets covered up.
So it ends up like a Hillary server.
So it gets covered up.
So it ends up like a Russia gate.
It gets covered up because that's the function now.
In a covert operation, there's different elements and teams.
And one part of a covert operation is where you don't want to be identified as doing it.
Clandestine is it's just secret, but it's you.
Covert is it's not identified as you.
And the matrix for doing that is if it's found out, is it really worth doing?
So most covert operations never happen, at least in my day, because it was bad, you know, fast and furious was.
But yeah, Eric, that's the last time I was on Fox News when I started telling about the truth about Eric Holder.
But here we see the two deep state apparatuses working independently in the global cabal without not now.
Now, it could be that the New Zealand government knew, because this is how you run a covert operation.
You don't come out and say, it's not like a Tom Cruise movie where the tape goes, if Cotter killed, the secretary will disavow all knowledge of your actions.
Because in real life, the tape doesn't self-destruct half the time.
Because the equipment doesn't work.
And so then you've got the tape.
So the way a covert operation is given is if you've seen the great movie Jack Strong, the true story of Major Kolinski, the great Polish intelligence officer Who had worked the Czechoslovakia invasion in 68 when the Czechs said, Hey, we've got reached the final communism phase.
We don't need you, Soviet.
And they came in with thanks.
He wrote that.
But he saw that the Soviets were going to push out the West, just like they say they are doing in Ukraine, which they are not.
And he knew that the West would have to nuke the Soviets, which would destroy Poland.
So he recruited himself to the CIA, never took a dime.
When he was questioned later, why'd the CIA recruit you?
CIA didn't recruit me.
I recruited the CIA and I never took a dime from them.
I paid everything back.
Why did you turn on your nation?
I never turned on my nation.
I'm a Polish soldier.
I turned on the Soviet Union for my nation.
That's how you can do it all right.
It can be done.
Covert operations can be done correctly.
They are rarely because of corruption, breeds incompetence.
But here we see lots of corruption, lots of incompetence, and just going along with it and making it worse and worse.
Okay, so Jeffrey, the timing of this is raising a lot of red flags in my mind.
And I want to talk about the sequencing of these world wars.
So it's very clear Trump has said that losing dollar dominance is like losing a world war and that he sees protecting the dollar as something that justifies a world war.
And, you know, the U.S. Empire sees any other strong nation as an existential threat to its own existence.
And that's true of Russia, true of China, of course.
But the sequencing of these conflicts seems to be that the U.S. needs to first destroy either Russia or Iran, neither of which I think is possible for the U.S. to do, but that's what they want to do.
This is like the, you know, Wolfowitz doctrine, essentially, on a global scale.
And then after they take care of Russia and Iran, and again, they were trying to go for regime change in both Iran with a decapitation strike from Israel and then also in Russia by trying to drive Russia into an economic quagmire with all of the sanctions, which also did not work.
Putin's stronger than ever domestically.
But the plan was to take care of those two countries first and then turn to China and then somehow try to destroy China, which also seems impossible.
But the fact that they're opening this office in New Zealand tells me that they see that this China threat is not that many years away.
Like it's coming soon.
And China is right now working on developing its nuclear weapons stockpile to massively increase the number of weapons it has.
I think China is the third country in the world in terms of the number of nuclear weapons it possesses, Russia's first, America's second.
I think China's third.
So, and also China has, as you may know, 200 times the shipyard naval construction capacity than does the United States.
So the more time goes by, the stronger China's Navy becomes.
Although the drone and robotics technology may make a lot of naval vessels obsolete over time anyway, but is there a sense of urgency, you think, behind this?
What's driving this now?
Well, there's a lot to unpack there too.
But what I think really is behind it is I think Trump wants to defeat communism in China.
I think that's what he wants as his legacy.
We've talked about that before.
And that's why he's willing to do all of these other things.
China is, I believe, the third largest nuclear power.
China is building up their navy, but their navy has lots of problems.
Our navy has lots of problems.
You can always tell when an empire is fading is when their navy is fading.
And our republic has fallen.
Our empire is fading, just like the Roman Empire faded when they lost their sea power as well.
And the Visigoths came in.
So I think maintaining empire, you maintain empire through two ways, through military dominance and through economic dominance.
So we're losing economic dominance and we're also losing military dominance.
And I just don't think Trump realizes that, but I think he may be obsessed on defeating Chinese communism.
And as far as New Zealand's government not knowing about this, I do have to add that, again, it may be a covert operation where they wanted deniability for it and they got money and techniques in exchange for that.
But it doesn't look like that in this case.
It just simply looks like the global cabal doing what they want.
And again, presenting it in a way that goes along with what Trump wants, because that's how you source somebody.
You don't try and make a source do, an asset do what they don't want to want.
You get them to do what they want while they're really doing what you want.
Okay.
Yeah, I completely agree.
Let me backtrack to something you just said and turn that into a question.
I think in Trump's mind, it's still 1991.
And he thinks that the United States controls the world that could dominate the world militarily and also economically.
He's learning the hard way that that's not the case.
And in the 12-day war between Iran and Israel, Israel was almost destroyed.
And in addition, Israel fired off what I believe is 25% of the entire stockpile of the Patriot missile interceptors that would require many years to rebuild based on current production schedules in the United States.
So the U.S. military cannot produce the munitions to maintain any kind of a long-duration war with any of these countries, not Iran, not Russia, and certainly not China, which of course is now the industrial hub of the world in terms of churning out products.
So doesn't that actually lead to the idea that Trump is going to leap to nuclear weapons because there's no like the U.S. military doesn't have Oreshnik missiles, doesn't have hypersonic missiles, doesn't have a good supply of non-nuclear medium-range missiles, can't even manufacture much of anything any longer, shipped everything to Ukraine and already got blown up by Russia, shipped whatever else could be scrounged up to Israel, already got used up in Israel.
I mean, where does that put our military in your view?
Well, that could be.
And again, those Russian tidal waves that came in, I've seen source intelligence analysis that indicated that might have been a nuclear artillery round to create that.
So I have often said, you know, nuclear war doesn't make any sense anymore with genetic weapons, but fixed mindsets can certainly lead to that.
But I'm sorry to interrupt, but about that nuclear artillery round theory, there would have been a radioactive fallout signature in the ocean water.
Certainly, maybe that's part of the intel you received.
But I recall from recent research that those artillery rounds have yields from between, I think, about 20 kilotons to about 300 kilotons max.
Is that enough yield to cause such a tsunami?
The intelligence analysis I saw, and I'm not an expert in this area, but if you air burst in at a certain level, then the radioactivity goes up rather than down.
And I think that that could have been an experiment for covert nuclear explosions where you don't have the typical radioactive signature.
I think that might be what they were actually trying to test.
Well, it did flood a Russian submarine base on the shore there.
Yes.
So it looks like, it doesn't look like what we think of MAD mutually assured destruction where it's fail-safe where everybody launches missiles.
Nobody's going to do, that's old.
That MAD worked.
Mutual assurance destruction worked.
It stopped.
I did my master's international relations on the START treaty.
But now I think that they may be fiddling with ways to use tactical nukes that they have not in the past.
And that kind of fits in with what you're saying as well.
Not limited nuclear strikes, because again, they're associating that with nature.
But weather weaponry, of course, as we both know, is very much in style.
If you combine harp weaponry as well with tactical nuclear strikes, there's some intriguing possibilities.
Well, but of course, two can play the tsunami game because Russia has the Poseidon weapon systems that are launched from these large Russian submarines.
And remember, to our audience, I'm reminding them that Russia has the most sophisticated submarine fleet in the world.
Not the surface vessels, not the aircraft carriers, obviously, but the submarines.
Russia has the best technology in the world.
And they can launch these Poseidon, which are basically these underwater drones that carry reportedly up to 100 megaton warheads that can be parked off the continental shelf of, for example, the East Coast of the United States, obviously remotely detonated via satellite signals that penetrate the ocean water.
And then kaboom, you have a 300-foot radioactive tidal wave all along the east coast.
I mean, aren't we inviting some kind of insane retaliation like that?
That could also be called an earthquake, you know, right?
It does begin to look like that.
In my day, American submarines were superior, and the CIA did a great covert operation of recovering a submarine.
The actual movie Hunt for Red October was kind of a cover-up actually designed to disguise away from the CIA recovery of a possible rogue Soviet submarine that was going to target with their nuclear weapons the East Coast.
And that was a covered up, of course, to de-escalate things.
But there's even documentaries on YouTube as well.
But you got to remember the old school CIA and Green Berets were all about going back into the Soviet Union against Russia.
And originally all Green Berets were Eastern Europeans that were going to be inserted back behind lines to overthrow communist governments.
And so that was also the focus of the CIA as well.
And it really seems to be that there's some old timers in there that still think Russia is the Soviet Union and they seem to be influencing or threatening or extorting Trump into that.
But you can't also take Israel out of this because there's a far-right Israeli politician who on Saturday just went to the Al-Aqsa Mosque, which is also Temple Mount, and barged in there with his crowd and was praying openly, which has escalated tensions there.
That was Gavir, I believe, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think it was.
Yes, you're right.
It was Itamar Ben Gavir.
And so I don't think it's a coincidence that Netanyahu says permanent presence in Gaza.
And we know that Iron Sands was doing targeteering for Gaza as well.
And at the same time, this Gavir goes onto Temple Mount to escalate tensions where that has not been allowed for decades because the red heifers are getting old.
One of them, they had a couple of black hairs, so they slaughtered it and burned it.
Practice round.
And Tishbav started on Saturday.
And Tishbav is the memorialization of the destruction of the second temple.
And it's been 600, as of Saturday, it was 666 days from October 7th.
Now, me as a Christian pastor, I think St. John on Patmos saw the Arabic words inshallah and did not see 666 in the Greek.
But that doesn't mean people don't buy into it.
You know, the Google Chrome emblem, the CERN emblem, the monster drink, that has been adopted as well.
But anyway, I don't believe in coincidences.
There's a lot of things that are tying in here.
But whether it's Israel or whether it's Ukraine or whether it's China or whether it's Russia, it's escalation across the board.
It's escalation to maintain the failing empire as opposed to rescue the republic.
So it is interesting that Netanyahu has now admitted that it really is an ethnic cleansing campaign, even though they denied that the entire time.
And of course, they still deny that there's any starvation or famine.
I wouldn't be surprised if Netanyahu comes out and says, actually, Gaza has an obesity problem.
I mean, that's how insane he is.
But you're right.
This is a global conflict.
And I want to point out, I think a lot of this goes back to China.
For example, China's Belt and Road Initiative, which is in large part designed to bypass naval shipping routes using land passageway.
And that goes right to Tehran.
So Iran geographically is a key gateway for China to reach a lot of Western Asia and, of course, the Middle East.
So when Iran is threatened by the West, then that threatens China's Belt and Road Initiative, which is tied to China's economy to be able to export goods and transport goods efficiently without risking the naval routes where the U.S. Navy still dominates, but perhaps not for long.
And, you know, there are some key straits like the Strait of Malacca there that is, you know, the control of that strait really determines something like 70% of the cargo that sweeps around Southeast Asia there.
And I think this also explains why Trump is so crazy about supporting Israel because I think the Suez Canal cannot be fully protected because, of course, Egypt despises Israel.
And you can't count on Egypt being your ally, even if you pay them billions of dollars a year.
And I think Israel wants Gaza because they want to build a new canal to go straight to the Mediterranean right through Gaza and bypass the Suez.
You know, I mean, it's about routes and trade and the economic power that comes from that.
But China is clearly shaping up to be the biggest economic and industrial powerhouse challenge to the United States.
And I think the U.S. has already lost that war, actually.
That's my assessment.
What do you think?
Well, I don't know.
It's interesting about Israel wanting to build a new canal.
Trump is certainly aware of logistics routes.
His emphasis on the Panama Canal has certainly proved that.
You know, I'd say Russia is becoming a rising economic power.
It certainly isn't the manufacturing base that China is.
But China's economy is failing as well, too, teetering very much so, as NG's power base is as well.
And all this lines up with biblical prophecy as well for Revelation.
But I wasn't aware of Israel being interested in building a new canal, but that is an interesting thought.
Yeah, that's that.
I mean, I've always been a lot of Trump stuff is Trump is doing everything that Israel wants.
That's the biggest problem here because so much of this does not, what he's doing does not suit us in any regard, but it suits Israel quite well.
Well, and let me just add one thing about the canal, the planned canal, I believe it's called the Ben-Gurion Canal.
And it would go, of course, right, I believe it's right from the Red Sea or where it opens up into the Arabian Sea into the Mediterranean there.
But I might have to review a map to make sure I'm seeing the southeast portion of that where that terminates.
But in order to build that canal, they would have to detonate hundreds of nuclear weapons to clear out the mountainous region there in order to bring it down to sea level.
We're talking hundreds of nukes with all, you know, all the fallout and everything associated with that.
If anybody could get away with nuking planet Earth hundreds of times and being excused for it, it seems like it would be Israel.
And that sounds a lot like Revelation, where it's a burning disaster field for years.
A lot of people don't trust it.
Open pit.
That's actually the fifth trumpet, I believe.
It talks about the opening of the earth and the fiery pit underneath, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And we also know that, and this is where American Christian Zionists mistake scripture, is that the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven with Yeshua.
And there's a reason for that because old Jerusalem is destroyed.
Do you think that that destruction of Jerusalem is that, does that happen in a nuclear conflict?
Does it happen from Iran?
That certainly looks like a nuclear conflict.
And we can see, so we clearly see that Israel is provoking and escalating with everyone around it.
And do we see America doing the exact same thing in lockstep with it?
I mean, I think it's obvious.
And then if you put scripture in there, it looks like they are going to make it happen.
I'm thinking about Damascus, and I'm thinking about the Euphrates River, because also in the book of Revelation, it talks about, I believe, the four angels being unleashed to the four corners of the Euphrates, and it talks about the Euphrates being completely dried up, gone.
That would also be consistent with a nuclear wasteland, wouldn't it?
It would.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that I think that is coming for sure, over there, but not over here.
Again, the good news for us is, you know, the way I interpret America is the lady, which I think is the true church, which is not Roman or Protestant or anything.
It's just the people.
I see the two rivers as Judaism, which is waiting for a Messiah, and Christianity is waiting for the Messiah to return.
Those are the two rivers.
Those are the two prophets.
They're not individual people.
And the lady is the true church carried off on the wings of evil to the wilderness.
That's us.
We kind of go back to being a frontier country, kind of like where we started.
And I'm just fine with that.
Well, Kash Patel is not waiting for the Messiah, that's for sure.
Oh, no.
Got the Indian gods going, I believe.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay, so where does this put us during what's remaining on Trump's second term here, or technically his third term?
But, you know, we're seven months into this roughly.
He has not pulled us out of wars as he promised.
He campaigned on peace.
He said he was going to end the conflict with Russia in one day.
It's been months now and it's only worse.
You know, he bombed Iran with a surprise attack in the middle of negotiations while Israel murdered the negotiators.
So he set a precedent for any country to say there's no point in even negotiating with the United States because they will murder your negotiators.
So where does this go from here in any way that's rational?
Oh, rational?
Nowhere.
Okay.
No rationality.
Where it looks like it goes, because I mean, we're not following the founders.
We're not following General President Washington is avoid foreign entanglements.
You know, nobody's paying attention to that.
All these idiots say our democracy all the time.
But where it looks like it is going with the transnationalism movement, which is morphing, while Trump is trying to deport some of the folks and making a show of it, although the numbers aren't particularly good, is it looks like the deep state double government apparatuses and global cabals are now moving behind and through individual oligarch empires.
So for Ukraine, that was Kolomovsky, Kolomoyski.
For America, that kind of looks like Theo and Musk, where the deep state intelligence apparatuses, the DARPAs, Ardas, and BARDAS are backing them.
And the reason is, is because they've got so much control of the existing government.
So they're going for more of that.
So it starts to look like feudal states.
It kind of looks like, you know, Sparta and different regional states run by techno-oligarchs.
And for that, I use the analysis of where Trump commissioned a while back these half dozen oligarch tech guys as lieutenant colonels out of the blue so that they are totally infiltrating the military structure, the army structure, where it should have been the other way around.
And it has been the other way around.
They're working for the military.
But again, it looks like it's changed as well.
So lots of bad news there.
Yeah, definitely a lot of bad news.
I'm just wondering, how does the United States of America make it through this intact?
I mean, the ability to keep printing money relies on the ability of the U.S. to sell treasury debt.
And there are no more new international buyers for Treasury debt.
China is selling off.
Japan is not really loading up anymore.
They're just kind of holding steady.
The other holders of U.S. Treasury debt, a lot of them have their own struggles, like the EU and the UK, etc.
So this empire costs a lot of money to maintain, as the Roman Empire did, right?
As the USSR did.
That's one of the reasons of the 1991 downfall.
It could not maintain the payoffs to keep the system in place.
It seems to me that we are approaching some kind of similar moment for the U.S. Empire.
I mean, where do we keep getting money to fund this whole thing like FBI offices in New Zealand?
Any ideas?
Well, that's why they got to have the make-up wars, you know, the made-up conflicts with Iran.
And by the way, there's new intelligence saying, as I said, the nuclear facilities are still being developed in Iran.
And they knew that intelligence.
And a former DIA head intelligence analysis had said that.
I talked about that a lot, which is what they want.
They're not going to eliminate the threat.
They're not going to eliminate totally the Gaza threat because they always want to have their boogeyman to come back to and throw more war at it.
Right.
Because that's what they've done.
But Trump's efforts, if they were sincere initially to revitalize the economy, and I think some of them were and are, are failing.
But just like the Roman Empire, we will not be able to maintain this standard.
And so it will fall back to people like you and I who live rurally and are in tight, smaller rural communities that become quasi-self-sufficient and have regional autonomy.
That's where all of this is eventually going to be threatened by big farm, big PHA pharma and farm as well.
But that's not going to work either.
That's failing as well.
And we've also seen RFK fail in those regards as well.
Well, it sounds like you're describing the breakup of the United States of America into regional nation states.
Yes.
Yes.
With their own currencies, their own economies.
Well, you're seeing there is those gold.
People send me those gold bills.
Goldbacks?
Goldbacks that work in certain countries.
That's that movement already beginning to happen.
I got them right here.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
I always have a stack here.
Yeah, I hand those out to people a lot, and they've become extremely valuable because of the rising price of gold.
I think each one of these is worth like seven more than seven dollars now.
It's one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold.
But yeah, it's not going to be a civil war.
Right.
Because the regional pockets, really, again, it's the fourth generation resistance movement, us, against the fifth generation government, which is doing democide against us.
Democide is when the government kills its own populace, but is, but as the government empire fails, regions will build.
That's the ideal resistance so that where they are independent, but they are modular.
That is, they can reinforce each other just like the original colonies did, but they can stand independently.
And that's the undefeatable aspect of fourth generation resistant movements, if they are authentic, is you just can't squash them out.
They just keep reappearing.
And that's where we're headed, I think.
Well, plus, the American people own hundreds of millions of firearms.
Yes.
You're never disarming America.
Right.
Just like you're not going to get rid of all the illegals that have come in either.
That's true.
They can be co-opted, though, especially the Latin Americans.
The Latin Americans are not going to go for the trannyism and all that stuff.
And the violent groups will be dealt with eventually at a regional level.
Okay, good point.
Let me give out your website.
It's jeffreyprather.com.
And that's spelled J-E-F-F-R-E-Y.
Don't forget the E there.
JeffreyPrayther.com.
Here it is, Meet America's Intelligence Officer.
You've got your show, The Prayer Point, live streaming Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Here it is, 1 p.m.
Pacific, 3 p.m.
Eastern.
And can they just catch that show on your website?
What's the best way for them to find it?
The best way to interact with me.
I do it live so I can talk to the audience.
And so the best way is to get me on Rumble or on X. And like today, we had a lively discussion.
And I always appreciate that and like that on Patreon as well.
Yeah, what's your Patreon page?
Oh, patreon.com slash JeffreyPrather.
Oh, okay.
Easy enough.
All right.
And so what else is on your mind in the few minutes that we have left here?
I mean, I know we've covered a lot of big picture items here, but what are you concerned about?
There are a couple wins, possible wins.
Bondi is tasking a U.S. attorney to look into Russia Gate.
That U.S. attorney is probably out of Florida.
The attorney has been tasked to put the Russia Gate stuff before a grand jury.
I've done hundreds, if not thousands of grand juries.
I only had one that I didn't get a true bill returned.
You could grand jury your grandma or a ham sandwich.
So if that does happen, if that grand journey grand jury isn't in panel to look at the Russia gate stuff, it'll certainly succeed, especially in Florida.
And doing it in Florida is the right place to do it because it's conservative as well.
And so that'd be a step in the right direction.
But it's really slow, you know, and really late.
And of all the people I'm disappointed in, I'm disappointed in Bondi the most because that's the key position.
Because if you don't have an aggressive and moral attorney general, then anything goes.
And the Epstein cover-up is the line in the sand, the hill that we got to die on.
Yes.
And seeing what we're seeing with the Diddy thing, where it looks like he's going to get four to six years.
And the real tell there was with Diddy is no conspiracy charges and no conspiracy charges.
So there's no co-conspirators because it's all the big names again, the same names that were with Epstein or with Diddy.
And so what we're saying is, yeah, it's okay to rape and torture and kidnap and murder little girls as long as we let our intelligence agencies and our big names and our oligarchs continue on.
Yeah, clearly, this could be the end of the Trump administration if they continue to mishandle this.
Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein had ties to Mossad?
Of course.
It's obvious.
But I think Ghislaine Maxwell, whose dad was Mossad, was running Epstein.
I see.
I think it was the other way around.
I don't think Epstein was particularly clever and Ghislaine is still alive.
So who's still making deals?
Is usually the real enemy.
And what's going on with Ghislaine?
Well, she talked.
Yeah, so what?
And so she's being handled very carefully.
Right.
But is the blackmail material still being leveraged against the people caught on video?
I think it is.
I think it very clearly is.
Otherwise, they would have given it up.
Right.
And they said, so I've talked about this.
Is the only way.
So the same.
So I don't think Trump is on the files, but he could be, but I don't know.
But we've got to understand that there are a lot of powerful people on there, but we've also got to understand this.
There are a lot of border patrol agents, ICE agents, DEA agents, DHS agents, HHS agents who were pedoes under Peto Joe and Joe's Pedo's.
They ran children.
Now, they're working to export illegals now and catch them, but it doesn't excuse the fact that they did it.
And there has to be some kind of repercussion, some kind of confession, some kind of repentance.
Yeah, I admit it.
I'm sorry I did it.
I'm not going to do it again.
But to just act like this whole apparatus is okay that did this, that some 320,000 plus probably more of children that were kidnapped, tortured, murdered, raped, and we just go back as business as usual with Epstein and we just go back to business as usual with Diddy shows that we are not worthy.
Right, right.
We've lost the moral high ground.
Yeah, no, we're like the Roman Empire.
We make Caligula look good.
So we're not raping virgins in the Coliseum anymore, but we're raping virgins on Epstein Island and we're raping virgin in America, porn central, child trafficking central, drug central.
We are a fallen empire.
And until we acknowledge that, and until Trump as commander in chief leads that, and until everybody in federal law enforcement and the military that did that, there's no moving forward.
Yeah, I agree with you.
And I also agree.
I very much doubt that Trump engaged in any of that behavior.
I don't think Trump himself is caught on video doing any of that stuff, but he's not known as a moral person.
And he is covering this up, which tells me he's covering it up because he's probably been ordered to do so by Israel so they can continue to use the blackmail to get the people who are on video to vote pro-Israel all the time to send more bombs, send more money, support Israel.
So the blackmail is still the currency.
It is.
And that means so that means then that Trump is a co-conspirator in the rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping of little, even though he's not directly involved.
He's involved in the cover-up.
Yes.
He's covering it up to appease his handlers.
Yes.
If he had the courage, the moral courage to come out and say, whatever I did, here's what I did.
I'm sorry.
Forgive me.
His popularity, he would be successful.
It just goes along with those who think that the Butler and Mar-a-Lago assassinations were faked.
There was no need to fake him.
He was already super popular.
And he's still super popular with doing stupid things like the Obama in Iran.
But it is certainly dividing the base.
And that's fine for the deep state to divide the base because it weakens the patriotic base as well.
Because then you've got the American Christian Zionist Pentecostals that are just, hey, Israel can kill everybody and kill kids.
And then the constitutionalists and what I think are true Christians, true followers of Christ doctrine, who were saying, no, that's not okay.
So it serves their purposes very well, one way or another.
That's interesting and a little bit disturbing because Trump's base is fractured.
It was fractured over the bombing of Iran and then additionally fractured over the Epstein files, a continued cover-up.
And then on top of that, the news that just broke recently indicated that DHS, and I verify the document, I have the PDF, that they said we will withhold disaster aid to any cities or states that boycott any Israeli company.
I mean, it's spelled out there in black and white, even though some Trump, you know, Trump worshipers are denying it, calling that fake news.
It's not fake news.
I just checked the document again last night, and it's still live.
It's still on the DHS.gov website, and it's all spelled out right there.
But Jeffrey, isn't that exactly what Israel did to Gaza, denying food aid?
And then Trump mirrors that to deny aid to Democrat cities.
I mean, it's the same playbook.
It is.
It is exactly that.
You know, Ukraine was the biolab for America.
America was the biolab for the Global Cabal.
But now it looks like we are just in lockstep even more than under Peter Joe, under Trump.
And it's really sad.
You know, I have given Trump every opportunity and every chance, but it's become very clear.
Again, the greater Israel concept, where Israel becomes the greatest nation in the world, the right-wingers want a one-world Messiah.
That one world messiah emerges out of Israel.
Trump is on a coin as the political messiah.
There's like two messiahs in the Israeli doctrine, in the Zionist doctrine.
It's not the Torah doctrine, Mosaic law doctrine.
And he seems to be eating that up and buying right into that.
And that means more war and more chaos.
Yeah.
All right.
So what happens for the remainder of this calendar year, 2025?
I mean, I know it's always hard to project, but if we're having you back on around Christmas time, let's say, and I'd love to have you back on then.
What kind of world are we looking at then, you think?
Well, it all depends upon whether we keep the pressure on about Epstein.
And so far, you know, I'm encouraging Team America to do that.
And a lot of groups are.
You know, Johnson put Congress on vacation early so that everybody would forget about that.
And it really, that is the line in the sand.
That's the hill to die on.
And if America is returning to becoming a virtuous populace, which we're seeing young people do that, and they hold on to the pressure of that, there could be a regime attitude change within the Trump administration,
because we know that Bondi, Patel, Bongino, and Trump all respond to public pressure because they're all these, you know, they have casts like ours.
They had them before, and they really want to be popular.
You know, you and I, I don't think we care about being popular.
We're going to tell the truth.
But they want to be popular.
So that's where pressure can be put.
So if In the fall, if the pressure is still on there, if the American people haven't moved on, uh, we could see things uh change and turn around uh to some degree because things are just going to get worse as we continue to follow uh Israeli guidance and we continue to uh do things of empire.
Plus, you know, how are we going to afford it?
So, yeah, uh, so there's there's two paths there: one is nothing changes and everything just continues to slowly slide and fall.
Um, and the other one is uh, there is a change, um, and that would be when Congress returns um in the fall.
And by the way, um, when Mike Johnson uh traveled, he traveled to Israel to go through the humiliation ritual at the wailing wall, of course, and and so did uh uh you know, Huckabee and Mike and his and his daughter, Sarah.
And let me say, let me say that's done on purpose because when you go to the wall and you pray at the wall, you're acknowledging that Yeshua is not a prophet because Yeshua says not a stone will be left of the temple.
And so they claim that's the temple wall, it's not, it's the Roman stockade.
That's right.
The Roman when the Romans destroy something, the Romans destroy it correctly.
They saw the ground, they know how to destroy, they know how to build stuff and how to destroy stuff.
They destroyed the temple completely.
But the whole point with the wailing wall, as far as Americans go, is to get you to go there, you know, put your head there and then and then acknowledge, yep, this is the temple wall.
Yeshua wasn't a prophet, therefore he is not the Messiah.
Therefore, we're waiting for the Israeli Messiah.
That's what that's all about.
That's just incredible.
So when the GOP, when they leave the halls of Congress in the U.S., they go worship a foreign entity with an antichrist belief system.
And the message, putting messages to the wall, by the way, was a Roman thing anyway.
Just like Afikomen, the middle matzah at Pesach at Passover, Afe Komen is a Greek word.
Wow.
Because when Eshua holds up the Afe Komen at Pesach at Passover, which everybody translates as the hosted and everything, what he's saying is, I'm not hidden anymore.
I'm right here.
And any Jew would have recognized that because the kids go and find the Afe Komen during Pesach, during Passover.
But if you don't put it in a cultural and temporal context, it looks like this strange Catholic ritual that comes out of nowhere.
But no, that piece of the Afe Komen, that piece of the middle matzah of the three pieces, was hidden, signifying that they were waiting for the hidden Messiah.
And the Jewish kids go still find it and they get money when they find it and everything.
But what Yeshua was saying was, nope, I'm right here.
Well, what this Israel worship ritual proves is that there's no crime against humanity that the Trump administration will not endorse.
And the fact that he's covering up the trafficking and raping of children and then covering up for genocide against the Palestinian children.
I mean, both of these are crimes against humanity.
And every single nominee in the Trump cabinet is 100% okay with that.
Well, I don't know if RFK is.
My hopes are pinned on the future administration, RFK.
He seems to know.
No, he's 100% pro-Zionist.
He said there's no genocide.
He said that's blood libel.
He's, I mean, he's children's health defense has been funded by the same people that funded Trump's campaign.
Okay.
Well, just saying.
And I don't want people to get hope, feel hopeless or anything because, again, it's a fallen world.
We have fallen human nature.
You know, Trump's not a Messiah.
RFK is not a Messiah.
Yeshua is the Messiah.
And we got to do the best we can with what we got.
But we also got to face facts.
And Jeffrey, look, I mean, you and I aren't, we're not perfect human beings either, but we have really strong fundamental morality, at least for God's sake, enough to say it's wrong to starve children to death.
I mean, why is this even debated?
You know, or to rape and traffic children, you know?
Well, yeah, even worse is rape and rape and traffic little girls.
That's what we're saying is okay with Diddy.
I mean, if you look at the Diddy, if you look at the details of Epstein, there were eight-year-old twins.
If you look at the details of the sodomy and humiliation that Diddy was doing, What we're saying is, we're like the Caligula Roman Empire, and we're fine with that.
And if you're not speaking out against that, then that's what you are.
And I'm not going to be that.
Yeah, well, and if you don't have a moral foundation, your empire eventually crumbles, period.
Yes.
Yep.
America was great because she was good.
She was good because she was godly.
If we become godly again, we'll become good and we'll become great.
If we don't, we're never going to be great again.
I think individual regions can be good.
And of course, that's really the Bible Belt in particular.
You know, the metrosexual coasts are lost.
You know, that terrain is seeded already.
And that's why you see all the fires and everything.
But you can't separate politics and morality.
You've got to have that if you're going to have it.
I mean, that's what the founder said.
You can only have a republic of a virtuous populace.
And we've got to return to that.
And therefore, we have to have the line on the sand with Epstein and Diddy and all the others as well.
But I agree with what you just said, but a lot of, especially the older Christians in the Bible belt, they're no better than the child mutilators because they support child starvation by Israel.
They think that by their fealty to Israel, that they earn God's favor, no matter what Israel does.
So we have a moral collapse on the right and the left in America, in my view.
That's the new age or Christian Zionist pastors who ignore true scripture, where Yeshua on the temple steps to the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin tells the vineyard story about how the vineyard workers killed his employees, beat up his son.
And so they are no longer the chosen people.
He says it very clearly directly to them.
Yes.
And I don't know how, you know, American Christians, and I run into them all the time, you know, nice people.
It's just like if you're around shriners, you know, shriners are wearing the cap, the red cap that was dipped Christian blood, you know, with the sword on it and everything like that.
And, you know, they're helping kids.
They just don't know what's going on.
So it's really important that, you know, you and I keep getting the message out there because the legacy intelligence community, SIOP media is dying.
The middle age, the immediate age, I think, is 70.
That's all dying.
True.
And so again, we're the resistance that the alternative, because now what you're seeing is all these stories that come out like, wow, Russia Gate was faked.
Well, you and I covered that years ago.
Years and years ago.
I mean, the stuff that they're putting out there now, like, is new.
We all covered that.
You know, it's well, Jeffrey, you'll appreciate this.
I tweeted this out.
I said, if Clinton, Clapper, Comey, and Brennan had only said that Trump was controlled by Israel instead of Russia, they wouldn't have had to fabricate the intelligence.
There you go.
That's a good one.
Right there.
So, yeah, Trump is controlled by a foreign nation.
It's just not Russia.
Yep.
And the Democrats are largely controlled by China.
You know?
And so much of Congress is dual citizenship with Israel.
So basically, we're in.
I mean, if you're watching, and we're going to wrap this up, Jeffrey, I didn't mean to keep you, but to the people watching this, number one, I believe you need to have faith.
You need to have morality in your life.
You need to operate day by day with that sense of morality and ethics and human compassion.
And on top of that, you got to take care of yourself financially.
You got to take care of your health because the system is not going to save you.
The system is actually going to destroy you if you trust that system because all these systems are crumbling.
Would you agree with that, Jeffrey?
Does that make sense?
Oh, totally.
I mean, that's why your health stuff is so important.
And, you know, we are really into that.
You know, and we're growing our own foods.
And, you know, you know, my kids and I'm growing them up to so they know how to work the land.
Yes.
They know how to shoot.
They are homeschooled.
They said the other day, hey, dad, my teacher said we're democracy.
I'm like, what?
I'm going to talk to that teacher.
Now, that's a remote Liberty University thing.
And I think he was just talking about democracy in general.
But if that's the case, I'm going to get rid of that teacher.
So our kids are going to be in this war.
And it's a it's a law, it's resistance in plain sight.
It's not redoubt up in the mountains or anything like that.
And in the long run, I don't see how we lose in the long run.
Okay.
Just going to be an interesting time during this recalibration of nations and currencies and humans and wars and all that.
It's going to be a wild ride.
All right.
Thank you, Jeffrey.
Let me give out your website again.
JeffreyPrayther.com is the site.
And don't forget about his Patreon page also.
Well, here's his main website, JeffreyPrayther.com.
And there you can find his Prayer Point show.
You can watch the live stream on Rumble and X and other places.
And then check out his Patreon page.
That's patreon slash JeffreyPrayer, I believe, correct?
That's it.
Okay.
And thank you, Jeffrey, for joining us today.
I always appreciate your analysis.
I mean, you're the kind of person that we need for this republic to survive.
You know, so I just, thank you for being available and for sharing your wisdom with the world.
Hey, thanks for having me again, Mike.
You're very welcome.
All right.
I thank all of you for watching today.
Again, what an amazing American Jeffrey Prayer there.
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