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Aug. 6, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Jeffrey Prather reveals shocking truths about the FBI’s international deep state spying...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighton.com.
I'm Mike Adams, and today we're joined by America's intelligence officer, Jeffrey Prather, a multiple returning guest here because he's been there.
He knows how the system works, a former DEA and a DIA in many different aspects.
His career spanned a couple of decades, and today he's going to give us his analysis of why is our FBI opening an office in New Zealand of all places.
So welcome our guest, Jeffrey Prather.
Mr. Prather, it's an honor to have you on today, sir.
Welcelcome back.
Hey, Mike.
Thanks for having me back.
It's great to have you back.
As soon as I saw this news that the FBI under Kash Patel was opening an office in New Zealand, I, of course, tweeted out, the FBI has no jurisdiction in New Zealand.
And how is this shutting down the FBI, which is what Patel promised to do on day one, but now that he's running it, he's expanding it, obviously.
What is going on here?
Well, Patel, unfortunately, is a panderer and Bonjino is a blatherer.
And they are not contracting the deep state at all.
They are expanding it.
And so what's going on here is in every.
embassy there are FBI special agents, there are DEA special agents.
Those are part of the liaison staff.
I was also a defense attaché officer, although I never served in that role.
Everyone's in the embassy because everyone has a deal.
But to put an FBI legat with a legal attaché in a standalone position, signifies a much larger presence in New Zealand than ever before.
And I saw this because, of course, the DEA and the FBI have always been side by side.
We both go to Quantico.
I actually went through the FBI Academy in 1990.
They had built the DEA Academy back then where everyone, all the other 1811 special agents go through Glenco, Georgia, through the FLETSI Federal Law Enforcement Training Academy.
So the DEA and the FBI are kind of the elite of the 1811 corps.
And what I noticed about this was I'm quoting the new Zealand.usembassy.gov slash FBI open standalone office.
So I'm quoting the government here as a milestone in US New Zealand law enforcement and intelligence cooperation.
And Wellington is the capital, New Zealand.
FBI director Cash Patel traveled to New Zealand this week to open a dedicated law enforcement attaché office, which is a legal attaché.
They've had FBI's stationed personnel in New Zealand for several years, but this, they're establishing a full GATT position with their own building.
It's kind of like where Bonjino and Patel were saying, hey, you're demoing the old headquarters.
And they played that up when actually I showed very clearly that that had been going on for a long time.
And so they were purposely misleading everyone because that had already been scheduled for demoing.
actually the FBI is getting two new headquarters, one bigger than the Pentagon and another off-site.
Bigger than the Pentagon.
It is, yes.
Yeah, goodness.
And so, but in the statement it says, establishing fully that position in the country will strengthen and enhance in the long stock standing cooperation with the key five eyes partners in the southwestern Pacific region.
Now, the five eyes are what I refer to as the global cabal.
The double state, the double state, deep state government is the intelligence community and the global cabal at its lowest level is the the deep state double governments of each country, which are the five eyes, which is the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
So even in the statement, it admits that he's doing this for the five eyes, but then it switches immediately and says, We've cooperated in a relationship for a long time, and we're going to investigate crime.
And this will also extend to disrupt a wide range of criminal activities activities because they still want to present the cover story, the storefront for the FBI, it's a law enforcement organization.
It's not a law enforcement organization.
It's an intelligence organization with a law enforcement function that is the cover function for the deep state.
I've said this many times, a covert operation running federal law enforcement is called a SARC, a Special Activities Review Committee.
And so they start off saying criminal activities including terrorism, which actually is counterintelligence and special operations, cybercrime and fraud, organized crime and money laundering, child exploitation and foreign intelligence threats.
At the end, they put the foreign intelligence threats.
And then they say New Zealand, Antarctica, Samoa, Newy, Cook Islands and Tonga will cover Antarctica is also especially important for everything that's going on there.
But why does the F to answer your question, why does the FBI need a full legal attaché office?
Why don't you just have a couple of special agent investigators to liaison with locals?
Well, it has come out that the US has a secret US military spying operation in New Zealand in Waihopai, which is a river in New Zealand.
And so the deep state script is that the US is running covert satellite spy operations inside a foreign allies intelligence community without the permission of that government focused on military kinetics, drone assassinations, and the taxpayers are paying for it.
And because that has now come out, and I'll explain that even more, but that results in illegal satellite spy operations and drone killings.
And Patel, who was on the National Security Council under Trump's first administration, knew all about this.
And so my conclusion is, and I'll go into this more though, is that Patel and Trump are not contracting or weakening the deep state, the intelligence community, the global cabal.
They are expanding it because this is going to include autonomous AI targeting for nuclear weapons via nuclear submarines.
Okay.
Wow.
There's a lot to unpack there, Jeffrey.
But I really appreciate your analysis.
I don't think there's anybody who could cover this better than what you're doing.
So I guess my initial thinking that they need to open up an office in New Zealand because they're hunting for the Epstein files in the hobbit houses there.
I guess that's wrong.
I don't think they care about the Epstein files.
They're not under a rock in New Zealand where they filmed Lord of the Rings.
So right now, I mean, let me zoom out here and express the fact that the U.S. is at war with the world economically.
currency-wise and now increasingly with military posturing like Trump announcing he's moving the two Ohio-class submarines, etc.
But the U.S. seems to be losing that war because there are many countries like India and China are saying, we don't care about these tariffs.
We're not going to stop buying oil from Russia, for example, or gas.
The EU buys all kinds of gas from Russia.
Every effort that Trump is making for world domination is actually boomeranging back in his face right now.
And the message from the non-Western world, the UK being the exception, and the EU.
because Trump did filet von der Leyen there with that recent trade deal.
But the rest of the world is saying, we don't care what the US says anymore.
The US doesn't control us.
Is that, you think, is that a proper context for what's shaping up here or how would you alter or push back on what I just said?
No, I would have to agree with that.
And I'd have to say though that Trump is captured, the Congress and Senate are captured, and they're captured by a lot of our foreign adversaries, but mainly they're captured by Israel.
And so this suits Israel's purpose because a continuing to weaken America fits along with the Greater Israel project because America needs to fall.
Christians need to fall as well.
So I agree with you, but it's important to understand that this IG report that came out through the GCHQ, I'm sorry, the GSCB out of New Zealand was an IG report talking about this operation Iron Sands.
And they found out that a foreign partner, unnamed, and it's the NSA, obviously, has been collecting foreign and domestic intelligence through an intelligence Signals Intelligence program.
inside the New Zealand station.
And this program, it looks like this is the NSA's apparition system, which was first used by spy satellites to geolocate targets during GWAT.
And I'm wearing my GWAT pocket square there just to say I'm a veteran of GWAT, Government War on Terror.
And the IG report said the capability clearly had the potential to be used in conjunction with other intelligence sources to support military action against targets.
So what that means is targeting targets, satellite targets and drone kills.
But neither nobody.
No one notified the Australian, the New Zealand minister to seek approval.
So this was a covert operation inside the New Zealand government where the New Zealand intelligence apparatus was reporting directly to the US intelligence apparatus.
Wow.
Which exactly is what the deep state and global Cabal is, that they're not reporting to anyone in their chain of command.
So I, you know, I talk about this all the time.
This is evidence of that.
And this is also kind of like what happened at PineCap.
PineCap even has movies and TV shows now about it in Australia where the NSA was doing the same thing through the Australians.
But can I jump in here?
Sure.
Real quick.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the increased interest regionally there.
I'm guessing, but you correct me if I'm wrong.
The US needs to maintain its and assert its control pressure over the Philippines to make sure that the Philippines stay as a strong ally.
But then also, it seems like this is all posturing up for an eventual conflict with China.
You are exactly right.
You are exactly correct.
So this apparatus, this apparation system is clearly to support military operations.
And it supports satellite operations and supports nuclear submarine operations.
And that is to put pressure on China.
So this is not de-escalation of anything.
This is escalation towards nuclear conflict.
Now, I still don't say there's going to be nuclear conflict.
There may have been a nuclear artillery round set off that caused those tsunamis off Russia.
That's what the signature.
from my sources look like, but this is escalating all of this and this is also being used.
The APRASH Analysis System enables precise geolocation of targets and is used for US forces in capture kill operations and lethal drone strikes against US targets in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen and now Gaza as well.
And so, of course, Netanyahu has just decided that he's going to have a permanent military presence in Gaza and just announced that.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that he's announcing that at the same time Patel is announcing an FBI Legat attaché in one of the five eyes because they got this Iron Sands operation got found out.
But the new FBI Legat is there so that they don't get found out.
So it ends up like a Hunter laptop, it gets covered up.
So it ends up like a Hillary server, so it gets covered up.
So it ends up like a Russia gate, it gets covered up.
Because that's the function now.
In a covert operation, there are different elements and teams.
And one part of a covert operation is where you don't want to be identified as doing it.
Clandestine is it's just secret, but it's you.
Covert is it's not identified as you.
And the matrix for doing that is, if it's found out, Is it really worth doing?
So most covert operations never happened, at least in my day, because it was it was bad, you know, fast and furious.
Was Eric Holder?
Yeah.
Yeah, Eric.
That's the last time I was on Fox News when I started telling about the truth about Eric Holder.
But, but here we see the two deep state apparatuses working independently in the global Cabal without not now.
Now, it could be that the New Zealand government knew, because this is how you run a covert operation.
You don't come out and say it's not like a Tom Cruise movie where the tape goes, if caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow all knowledge of your actions because in real life the tape doesn't self-destruct half the time.
Right.
Because the equipment doesn't work.
And so then you've got the tape.
So the way a covert operation is given is if you've seen the great movie Jack Strong, the true story of Major Kolinski, the great Polish intelligence officer who had worked the Czechoslovakia invasion in 1968, when the Czechs said, Hey, we've got reached the final communism phase.
We don't need you, Soviet.
And they came in with tanks.
He wrote that so that but he saw that the Soviets were going to push out the West just like they say they're doing in Ukraine, which they are not.
And he knew that the West would have to nuke the Soviets, which would destroy Poland.
So he recruited himself to the CIA, never took a dime.
When he was questioned later, why did the CIA recruit you?
The CIA didn't recruit me.
I recruited the CIA.
I never took a dime from them.
I paid everything back.
Why did you spot, why did you turn against your nation?
I never turned against my nation.
I'm a Polish soldier.
I turned against the Soviet Union for my nation.
That's how you can do it all right.
Covert operations can be done correctly.
They are rarely because of corruption breeds incompetence.
But here we see lots of corruption, lots of incompetence and just going along with it and making it worse and worse.
Okay, so Jeffrey, the timing of this is raising a lot of red flags in my mind.
And I want to talk about the sequencing of these world wars.
So it's very clear Trump has said that losing dollar dominance is like losing a world war and that he sees protecting the dollar as something that justifies a world war and you know the the u.s empire sees any other strong nation as an existential threat to its own existence and that's true of russia true of china of course but the sequencing of these conflicts seems to be that the u.s needs to first destroy
either russia or iran neither of which i think is possible for the u.s to do but that's that's what they want to do this is like the you know Wolfowitz doctrine essentially on a global scale and then after they take care of Russia and Iran and again they you know they're trying to go for regime change in both Iran with the decapitation strike from Israel and then also in Russia by trying to drive Russia into an economic quagmire with all of the sanctions, which also did not work.
Putin's stronger than ever domestically.
the plan was to take care of those two countries first and then turn to China and then somehow try to destroy China, which also seems impossible.
But the fact that they're opening this office in New Zealand tells me that they, it's coming soon.
And China is right now working on developing its I think China is the third country in the world in terms of the number of nuclear weapons it possesses.
Russia's first, America's second.
I think China's third.
And also China has, as you may know, 200 times the shipyard naval construction capacity than does the United States.
So the more time goes by, the stronger China's navy becomes.
Although the drone and robotics technology may make a lot of naval vessels obsolete over time anyway, but is there a sense of urgency, you think, behind this?
What's driving this now?
Well, there's a lot to unpack there too, but what I think really is behind it is I think Trump wants to defeat communism in China.
I think that's what he wants as his legacy.
We've talked about that before.
And that's why he's willing to do all of these other things.
China is, I believe, the third largest nuclear power.
China is building up their navy, but their navy has a lot of problems.
Our navy has a lot of problems.
You can always tell when an empire is fading is when their navy is fading and our republic has fallen, our empire is fading just like the Roman Empirere faded when they lost their sea power as well, and the Visigoths came in.
So I think maintaining empire, you maintain empire through two ways, through military dominance and through economic dominance.
So we're losing economic dominance and we're also losing military dominance.
And I just don't think Trump realizes that, but I think he may be obsessed on defeating Chinese communism.
And as far as New Zealand's government not knowing about this, I do have to add that again, it may be a covert operation where they wanted deniability for it and they got money and techniques in exchange for that.
But it doesn't look like that in this case.
It just simply looks like the global cabal doing what they want.
And again, presented in a way that goes along with what Trump wants.
Because that's how you that's how you source somebody.
You don't try and make a source do an asset do what they don't want to do.
You get them to do what they want while they're really doing what you want.
Okay.
Yeah, I completely agree.
But let me backtrack to something you just said and turn that into a question.
I think in Trump's mind, it's still 1991.
And he thinks that the United States controls the world, that could dominate the world militarily and also economically.
He's learning the hard way that that's not the case.
And in the 12-day war between Iran and Israel, Israel was almost destroyed.
And in addition, Israel fired off what I believe is 25% of the entire stockpile of the Patriot missile interceptors that would require many years to rebuild based on current production schedules in the United States.
So the U.S. military cannot produce the munitions to maintain any kind of a long-duration war with any of these countries, not Iran, not Russia, and certainly not China, which of course is now the industrial hub of the world in terms of churning out products.
So doesn't that actually lead to the idea that Trump is going to leap to nuclear weapons because there's no Like the U.S. military doesn't have Oreshnik missiles, doesn't have hypersonic missiles, doesn't have a good supply of non-nuclear medium range missiles.
It can't even manufacture much of anything anymore, shipped everything to Ukraine and it already got blown up by Russia, shipped whatever else could be scrounged up to Israel, already got used up in Israel.
I mean, where does that put our military in your view?
Well, that could be.
And again, those Russian tidal waves that came in, I've seen source intelligence analysis that indicated that might have been a nuclear artillery round to create that.
So I have often said, you know, nuclear war doesn't make any sense anymore with genetic weapons, but fixed mindset.
mindsets can certainly lead to that.
But I'm sorry to interrupt, but about that nuclear artillery round theory, there would have been a radioactive fallout signature in the ocean water, certainly.
Maybe that's part of the intelligence you received, but I recall from recent research that those artillery rounds have yields from between, I think, about 20.
20 kilotons to about 300 kilotons max.
Is that enough yield to cause such a tsunami?
The intelligence.ce analysis I saw, and I'm not an expert in this area, But if you if you air burst in at a certain level, then the radioactivity goes up rather than down.
And I think that that could have been an experiment or covert nuclear explosions where you don't have the typical radioactive signature.
I think that might be what they were actually trying to test.
Well, it did.
It did flood a Russian submarine base on the shore there.
Yes.
Yes.
So it looks like it doesn't look like what we think of mad, mutually assured destruction, where, you know, it's fail safe, where everybody launches missiles.
Right.
That's nobody's going to do that.
That's old that MAD worked, mutual assurance restriction worked, it stopped.
You know, I did my master in international relations on the START treaty.
But now they're I think that they may be fiddling with ways to use tactical nuclear, tactical nuclear that they haven't in the past.
And that kind of fits in with what you're saying as well.
Not limited nuclear strikes because again, they're associating that with nature.
But weather weaponry, of course, as we both know, is very much in style.
If you combine, you know, harp weaponry as well with tactical nuclear strikes, there's some intriguing possibilities.
Well, but of course, two can play the tsunami game because Russia has the Poseidon weapon systems that are launched from these large Russian submarines.
And remember, to our audience, I'm reminding them that Russia has the most sophisticated submarine fleet in the world.
Not the surface vessels, not the aircraft carriers, obviously, but the submarines.
Russia has the best technology in the world.
in the world and they can launch these poseidon which are basically these underwater drones that carry reportedly up to 100 megaton warheads that can be parked off the continental shelf of, for example, the east coast of the United States, obviously remotely detonated via satellite signals that penetrate the ocean water.
And then, kaboom, you have a 300 foot radioactive tidal wave all along the east coast.
I mean, aren't we inviting some kind of insane retaliation like that that could also be called an earthquake, you know, right?
It does begin to look like that.
In my day, American submarines were superior and the CIA did a great covert operation of recovering a submarine.
The actual film, Hunt for Red October, was kind of a cover up actually designed to disguise away from the CIA recovery of a possible rogue Soviet submarine that was going to target with their nuclear weapons the East Coast.
And that was a covered up, of course, to de-escalate things.
But there's even documentaries on YouTube as well.
But you have to remember the old school CIA and Green Berets were all about going back into the Soviet Union against Russia.
And originally all Green Berets were Eastern Europeans that were going to be inserted back behind lines to throw down communist governments.
And so that was also the focus of the CIA as well.
And it really seems to be that there's some old timers in there that still think Russia is the Soviet Union.
And they seem to be influencing or threatening or extorting Trump into that.
But you can't also take Israel out of this because there's a far right Israeli.
Israel's politician who on Saturday just went to the Araqsa Mosque, which is also Temple Mount, and barged in there with his crowd and was praying openly, which has escalated tensions there.
That was Gavir, I believe, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think it was, yeah, you're right.
It was Itamar ben Gavir.
And so I don't think it's a coincidence that Netanyahu says permanent presence in Gaza, and we know that Iron Sands was targeting for Gaza as well.
And at the same time, this Gavir goes on to Temple Mount to escalate tensions where that has not been allowed for decades because the red heifers are getting old.
One of them had a couple of black hairs, so they slaughtered it and burned it.
Practice round.
Yeah.
And Tishbab started on Saturday.
And Tishbab is the memorialization of the destruction of the second temple.
And it's been 600 as of Saturday, it was 666 days from October 7.
Now, me as a Christian pastor, I think Saint John on Patmos saw the Arabic words, Inshallah, and did not see 666 in the Greek.
But that doesn't mean people don't buy into it.
You know, the Google Chrome emblem, the CERN emblem, you know, the monster drink, you know, that has been adopted as well.
But anyway, I don't believe in coincidences.
There's a lot of things that are tied in here.
But whether it's Israel or whether it's Ukraine or whether it's China or whether it's Russia, it's escalation across the board.
It's escalation.
Clearly.
To maintain the failing empire as opposed to rescue the republic.
So it is interesting that Netanyahu has now admitted that it really is an ethnic cleansing campaign, even though they denied that the entire time.
And of course, they still deny that there's any starvation or famine.
I wouldn't be surprised if Netanyahu comes out and says, actually, Gaza has an obesity problem.
I mean, that's how insane he is.
But you're right.
This is a global conflict.
And I want to point out, I think a lot of this goes back to China.
For example, China's Belt and Road Initiative, which is in large part designed to bypass naval shipping routes using land passageway and that goes right to Tehran so Iran geographically is a key gateway for China to reach a lot of Western Asia and of course the Middle East so when Iran is threatened by the West then that threatens China's Belt and
Road initiative which is tied to China's economy to be able to export goods and transport goods efficiently without risking the naval routes where the U.S. Navy still dominates, but perhaps not for long.
And you know, there are some key straits like the Strait of Malacca there that is, you know, the control of that strait really determines something like 70% of the cargo that sweeps around Southeast Asia there.
And I think this also explains why Trump is so crazy about supporting Israel because I think the Suez Canal cannot be fully protected because, of course, Egypt despises Israel.
And you can't count on Egypt being your ally, even if you pay them billions of dollars a year.
And I think Israel wants Gaza because they want to build a new canal to go straight to the Mediterranean right through Gaza and bypass the Suez.
You know, I mean, it's it's about routes and trade and and the economic power that comes from that.
But China is clearly shaping up to be the biggest economic and industrial powerhouse challenge to the United States.
And I think the US has already lost that war.
Actually, that's my assessment.
What do you think?
Well, I don't know.
It's interesting about Israel wanting to build a new canal.
Trump is certainly aware of logistics routes, his emphasis on the Panama Canal.
has certainly proved that.
I would say Russia is becoming a rising economic power.
It certainly isn't the manufacturing base that China is.
But China's economy is failing as well, too, tethering very much, and Xi's power base is as well.
And all this links up with biblical prophecy as well for Revelation.
But I wasn't aware of Israel being interested in building a new canal.
But that is an interesting thought.
Yeah, that's that.
I mean, I've almost listened to that.
Trump stuff is that Trump is doing everything that Israel wants.
That's the biggest problem here because so much of this does not, what he's doing does not suit us in any regard, but it suits Israel quite well.
Well, and let me just add one thing about the canal, the planned canal.
I believe it's called the Ben Gurion Canal.
And it would go, of course, right.
I believe it's right from the Red Sea or where it opens up into the Arabian Sea into the Mediterranean there.
But I might have to reviewview a map to make sure I'm seeing the southeast portion of that where that terminates.
But in order to build that canal, they would have to detonate hundreds of nuclear weapons to clear out the mountainous region there in order to bring it down to sea level.
We're talking hundreds of nukes with all the fallout and everything associated with that.
If anybody could get away with nuking planet Earth hundreds of times, and being excused for it, it seems like it would be Israel.
And that sounds a lot like Revelation, where it's a burning disaster field for..
A lot of people don't trust that.
Open the pit.
That's actually the fifth, the fifth trumpet, I believe.
It talks about the opening of the earth and the fiery pit underneath, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we also know that, and this is where American Christian Sionists, uh, mistake, uh, Scripture is that the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven with Yeshua, uh, would be, and there's a reason for that because the old Jerusalem is destroyed.
Do you think that destruction of Jerusalem is that, does that happen in a nuclear conflict?
Does it happen from Iran?
That certainly looks like that certainly looks like a nuclear conflict.
Okay.
So we can see, so we clearly see that Israel is provoking and escalating with everyone around.
And do we see America doing the exact same thing?
Yes.
In lockstep with it.
I mean, I think it's obvious.
And then if you put scripture in there, it looks like they are going to make it happen.
I'm thinking about Damascus and I'm thinking about the Euphrates River because also in the book of Revelation, it talks about, I believe, the four angels being unleashed to the four corners of the Euphrates and it talks about the Euphrates being completely dried up, gone.
That would also be consistent with a nuclear wasteland, wouldn't it?
It would.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I think that is coming for sure.
Not over there, but not over here.
Again, the good news for us is, you know, the way I interpret America is the lady, which I think is the true church, which is not Roman or Protestant or anything.
It's just the people.
I see the two rivers as Judaism, which is waiting for a Messiah, and Christianity is waiting for the Messiah to return.
Those are the two rivers.
Those are the two prophets.
They're not individual people.
And the lady is the true church carried off on the wings of evil to the wilderness.
That's us.
We kind of go back to being in a frontier country, kind of like where we started, and I'm just fine with that.
Well, Kaj Patel is not waiting for the Messiah, that's for sure.
I think.
No, he's got the Indian gods going, I believe.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay, so where does this put us during what's remaining on Trump's second term here, or technically his third term.
But, you know, we're seven months into this roughly.
He has not pulled us out of wars as he promised.
He campaigned on peace.
He said he was going to end the conflict with Russia in one day.
It's been months now, and it's only worse.
You know, he bombed Iran with a surprise attack in the middle of negotiations while Israel murdered the negotiators.
So he set a precedent for any country to say there's no point in even negotiating with the United States because they will murder your negotiators.
So we're like, where does this.
go from here in any way that's rational?
Oh, rational?
No.
Okay, no rationality.
Where it looks like it goes, because I mean, we're not following the founders, we're not following General President Washington's avoid foreign entanglements.
You know, nobody's paying attention to that.
All these idiots say our democracy all the time, but where it looks like it's going with the transnationalism movement, which is morphing.
While Trump is trying to deport some of the folks and making a show of it, although the numbers aren't particularly good, is it looks like the deep state., double government apparatuses and global cabals are now moving behind and through individual oligarch empire.
So for Ukraine that was Kolomyski.
For America that kind of looks like Thiel and Musk, where the deep state intelligence apparatuses, the DARPAs, ARTAs and BARTAs are backing them.
And the reason is because they've got so much control over the existing government.
So they're going for more of that.
So it starts to look like feudal states.
It kind of looks like, you know, the US.
Sparta and different regional states run by techno oligarchs.
And for that, I use the analysis of where Trump commissioned a while back these half dozen oligarch tech guys as tenant colonels out of the blue, so that they are totally infiltrating the military structure, the army structure, where it should have been the other way around.
And it has been the other way around.
They're working for the military.
But again, it looks like it's changed as well.
So lots of bad news there.
Yeah, definitely a lot of bad news.
I'm just wondering, how does the United States of America make it through this intact?
I mean, you know, the ability to keep printing money relies on the ability of the U.S. to sell treasury debt.
And there are no more new international buyers for treasury debt.
You know, China's selling off.
Japan is not really loading up.
anymore.
They're just kind of holding steady.
The other holders of US treasury debt, a lot of them have their own struggles like the EU and the UK, et ceteraera.
So this empire costs a lot of money to maintain as the Roman Empire did, right?
As the USSR did.
That's one of the reasons of the 1991 downfall.
It could not maintain the payoffs to keep the system in place.
It seems to me that we are approaching some kind of similar moment for the U.S. empire.
I mean, where do we keep getting money to fund this whole thing like FBI offices in New Zealand?
Any ideas?
Well, that's why they got to have the make-up wars., the made up conflicts with Iran.
And by the way, there's new intelligence saying, as I said, the nuclear facilities are still being developed in Iran.
And they knew that intelligence, and a former DIA head intelligence analysis had said that, I talked about that a lot, which is what they want.
They're not going to eliminate the threat.
They're not going to eliminate totally the Gaza threat, because they always want to have their boogeyman to come back to and throw more war at it.
Right.
Because that's what they've done.
But Trump's efforts, if they were sincere initially to revitalize the economy.
And I think some of them were and are failing.
But, you know, just like the Roman Empire, we will not be able to maintain this standard.
And so it will fall back to, you know, people like you and I who are live, live rurally and are in tight, smaller rural communities that become quasi self sufficient and have regional, regional autonomy.
That's where all this is eventually going to be threatened by big pharma, big PHA pharma and pharma as well.
But that's not going to work either.
That's failing as well.
And we've also seen, you know, RFK fail in those respects as well.
Right.
Well, it sounds like you're describing the breakup of the United States of America into regional nation states.
Yes, yes.
With their own currencies, their own economy.
Well, you're seeing additional gold.
There is that gold, those gold, you know, people send me those gold bills.
Gold backs?
Gold backs that work in certain countries.
That's that movement, you know, already beginning to happen.
I got them right here.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
I always have a stack here.
Yeah, I hand those out to people a lot and they've become extremely valuable because of the rising price of gold.
I think each one of these is worth like seven, more than seven dollars now.
It's one one thousandth of an ounce of gold.
But yeah, I think that's why it's not going to be a civil war.
Right.
Because the regional pockets, really, again, it's the fourth generation resistance movement, us against the fifth generation government, which is doing demicide against us.
Demicide is when the government k empire fails, regions will build.
That's the ideal resistance so that where they are independent but they are modular.
That is, they can reinforce each other just like the original colonies did, but they can stand independently.
And that's the unfeatable aspect of fourth generation resistance movements, if they are authentic, is you just can't squash them out.
They just keep reappearing.
And that's where we're headed, I think.
Well, plus the American people own hundreds of millions of firearms.
Yes, you're never going to disarm.
You're never going to disarm America.
Right.
Just like you're not going to get rid of all the illegals that have come in either.
That's true.
They can be co-opted though, especially the Latin Americans.
The Latin Americans are not going to go for the trannyism and all that stuff.
And the violent groups will be dealt with eventually at a regional level.
Okay, good point.
Let me give out your website.
It's jeffreyprather dot com and that's spelled JEFREY.
Don't forget the E there.
Jeffrey Prather dot com, here it is, meet America's Intelligence Officer.
You've got your show, The Prather Point, live streaming Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Here it is, 1 p.m.
Pacific, 3 p.m.
Eastern.
And can they just catch that show on your website?
What's the best way for them to find it?
The best way to interact with me, I do it live so I can talk to the audience.
And so the best way is to get me on Rumble or on X. And like today, we had a lively discussion.
And I always appreciate that and like that on Patreon as well.
Yeah, what's your Patreon page?
Oh, patreon dot com slash Jeffrey Pratherrather.
Oh, okay.
Lichter enough.
All right.
And so what else is on your mind in the few minutes that we have left here?
I mean, I know we've covered a lot of big picture items here, but what are you concerned about?
There are a couple of wins, possible wins.
You know, Bondi is tasking a US attorney to look into Russia Gate.
That US attorney is probably out of Florida.
The attorney has been tasked to put the Russia Gate stuff before a grand jury.
I've done hundreds, if not thousands of grand juries.
I only had one that I didn't get a true bill returned.
You could grand jury.
your grandma or a ham sandwich.
So if that does happen, if that grand jury isn't in panel to look at the Russia gate stuff, it will certainly succeed, especially in Florida.
And doing it in Florida is the right place to do it because it's conservative as well.
And so that would be a step in the right direction.
But it's really slow and really late.
And I'm, I'm, of all the people I'm disappointed in, I'm disappointed in Bondi the most because that's the key position.
Because if you don't have an aggressive and moral Attorney General, then.
then, you know, anything goes.
And, you know, the Epstein cover up is the line in the sand, the hill that we got to die on.
Yes.
And seeing what we're seeing with the Diddy thing, where it looks like he's going to get four to six years, and the real tell there was with Diddy is no conspiracy charges.
And no conspiracy charges, so there's no co conspirators, because it's all the big names, again, the same names that were with Epstein or with Diddy.
And so what we're saying is, yeah, it's okay to rape and torture and kidnap and murder little girls as long as we let our intelligence agencies and our big names and our oligarchs continue on.
Yeah.
This could be the end of the Trump administration if they continue to mishandle this.
Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein had ties to Mossad?
Of course.
But I think Ghislaine Maxwell, whose dad was Mossad, was running Epstein.
I see.
I think it was the other way around.
I don't think Epstein was particularly clever, and Ghislaine's still alive.
So who's right?
Still making deals.
The hardest is usually the real enemy.
And what's going on with Ghislaine?
Well, she talked.
Yeah, so what?
And so she's being handled.
very carefully.
Right.
But is the channel material still being leveraged against the people caught on video?
I think it is.
I think it very clearly is.
Otherwise they would have given it up.
Right.
And so I've talked about this is the only way.
So the same So I don't think Trump is on the files, but he could be, but I don't know.
But we've got to understand that there are a lot of powerful people on there, but we've also got to understand this.
There are a lot of Border Patrol agents, ICE agents, DEA agents, DHS agents, HHS agents who.
who were pedos under Peto Joe and Joe's Pedos.
They ran children.
Now they're working.
They're working to export illegals now and catch them, but it doesn't excuse the fact that they did it.
And there has to be some kind of repercussion, some kind of confession, some kind of repentance.
Yeah, I admit it.
I'm sorry I did it.
I'm not going to do it again.
But to just act like this whole apparatus is okay, that did this, that some 320,000 plus probably more of children that were kidnapped, tortured, murdered, raped.
And we just go back as business as usual with Epstein and we just go back to business as usual with Diddy shows that we are not worthy.
Right, right.
We've lost the moral hydrant.
Yeah, no, we're like the Roman.
We make Caligula look good.
I mean, we're we're not raping virgins in the Colosseum anymore, but we're raping virgins on Epstein Island and we're raping virgins in America, porn central, child trafficking central, drug central.
We are a fallen empire.
And until we acknowledge that and until Trump as commander in chief leads that and until everybody in federal law enforcement and the military that did that, there's no moving forward.
Yeah, I agree with you.
And I also agree.
I very much doubt that Trump engaged in any of that behavior.
I don't think Trump himself is caught on video doing any of that stuff, but he's not known as a moral person and he is covering this up, which tells me he's covering it up because he's probably been ordered to do so by Israel.
So they can continue to use the blackmail to get the people who.
who are on video to vote pro-Israel all the time to send more bombs, send more money, support Israel.
So the blackmail is still the currency that's it.
And that means, so that means then that Trump is a co-conspirator in the rape, torture, murder and kidnapping of little girls, even though he's not directly involved in the cover-up.
Yes.
He's covering it up to appease his handlers.
Yes.
Who are if he had the courage, the moral courage to come out and say, whatever I did, here's what I did, I'm sorry, forgive me.
His popularity, he would be successful.
This just goes along with those who think that the Butler and Mar-a-Lago assassinations were faked.
There was no need to fake him.
He was already super popular.
And he's still super popular with doing stupid things like Obama in Iraq.
But it is certainly dividing the base.
And that's fine for the deep state to divide the base because it weakens the patriotic base as well.
Because then you've got the American Christian Sionist Pentecostals that are just, hey, Israel can kill everybody and kill kids.
And then the constitutionalists and what I think are true Christians, true followers of Christ doctrine, they were saying, no, that's not okay.
So it serves their purposes very well one way or another.
That's interesting and a little bit disturbing because Trump's base is fractured.
It was fractured over the bombing of Iran and then additionally fractured over the Epstein files continued cover-up.
And then on top of that, the news that just broke recently indicated that DHS and I verify the document.
I have the PDF that they said we will withhold disaster aid to any cities or states that boycott any Israeli company.
I mean, it's spelled out there in black and white, even though some Trump worshippers are denying it, calling that fake news.
It's not fake news.
I just checked the document again last night, and it's still live.
It's still on the dhs.gov website, and it's all spelled out right there.
But Jeffrey, isn't that exactly what Israel did to Gaza, denying food aid?
And then Trump mirrors that to deny aid.
to Democrat cities.
I mean, it's the same playbook.
It is.
It is exactly that.
You know, Ukraine was the bio lab for America.
America was the biolab for the global Cabal, but now it looks like we are just in lock step even more than under P. Do Joe, under Trump.
And it's really sad.
I have given Trump every opportunity and every chance, but it's become very clear.
Yes.
Again, the Greater Israel concept where Israel becomes the greatest nation in the world, the right wingers want a one world Messiah.
That one world Messiah emerges out of Israel.
Trump is on a coin as the political Messiah.
There's like two Messiahs.
is in the Israeli doctrine, in the Zionist doctrine.
It's not the Torah doctrine, Mosaic law doctrine.
And he seems to be eating that up and buying right into that.
And that means more war and more chaos.
Yeah.
All right.
So what happens for the remainder of this calendar year, 2025?
I mean, I know it's always hard to project, but if Well, it all depends on whether we keep the pressure on about Epstein.
And so far, you know, I'm encouraging Team America to do that, and a lot of groups are.
You know, Johnson put Congress on vacation early so that everybody would forget about that.
And it really that is the line in the sand.
That's the hill to die on.
And if America is returning to becoming a virtuous population, which we're seeing young people do that, and they hold on to the pressure of that, there could be a regime attitude change within the Trump administration because we know that Bondi,
Patel, Bonjino and Trump all respond to public pressure because they're all these, these, you know, they have casts like ours.
They had them before and they really want to be popular.
You know, you and I don't think we care about being popular.
We're going to tell the truth, but they want to be popular.
So that's where pressure can be put.
So if in the fall, if the pressure is still on there, if the American people haven't moved on, we could see things change and turn around to some degree because things are just going to get worse as we continue to follow Israeli guidance and we continue to do things of empire.
Plus, you know, how are we going to afford it?
So there's two paths there.
One is nothing changes and everything just continues to slide and fall.
And the other is there is a change.
And that would be when Congress returns in the fall.
And by the way, when Mike Johnson traveled, he traveled to Israel to go through the humiliation ritual at the whaling wall.
The Wailing Wall, of course, and so did, uh, you know, Huckabee and Mike and his and his daughter Sarah.
And let me say, let me say, that's done on purpose because when you go to the wall and you pray at the wall, you're acknowledging that Yeshua is not a prophet because Yeshua says, Not a stone will be left of the temple.
And so they claim that's the temple wall.
It's not.
It's the Roman stockade.
That's right.
When the Romans destroy something, the Romans destroy it correctly.
They solve the ground.
They know how to destroy.
They know how to build stuff and they know how to destroy stuff.
They destroyed the temple completely.
But the whole point with the whaling wall, as far as Americans go, is to get you to go there, you know, and put your head there and then and then acknowledge, yep, this is a temple wall.
Yeshua wasn't a prophet, therefore, therefore he is not the Messiah, therefore we're waiting for the Israeli Messiah.
That's what that's all about.
That's just incredible.
So when the GOP, when they leave the halls of Congress in the US, they go worship a foreign entity with an antichrist belief system.
And the message putting messages into the wall, by the way, was a Roman thing anyway.
Just like afekomen, the middle, the middle matzah at Pesach at Pesach, afekomen is a Greek word.
Wow.
Because when Yeshua holds up the afekomen at Pesach at Pesach, which everybody translates as the hosted and everything, what he's saying is, I'm not hidden anymore.
I'm right here.
And any Jew would have recognized that because the kids go and find the afekomen during Pesach during Pesach.
But if you don't put it in a cultural and temporal context, it looks like this strange.
Catholic ritual that comes out of nowhere.
But no, that piece of the Aphikom and that piece of the middle matzah, the three pieces, was hidden, signifying that they were waiting for the hidden Messiah.
And the Jewish kids go still find it and they get money when they find it and everything.
But what Yeshua was saying was, no, I'm right here.
Well, what this Israel worship ritual proves is that there is no crime against humanity that the Trump administration will not endorse.
And the fact that he's covering up the trafficking and raping of children and then covering up for genocide against the Palestinian children.
I mean, both of these are crimes against humanity.
And every single nominee in the Trump cabinet is 100% okay with that.
Well, I don't know if RFK is.
My hopes are pinned on the future administration.
RFK, he seems to know.
No, he's 100% pro-Zionist.
He said there's no genocide.
He said that's blood libel.
He's, I mean, Okay.
Well.
Just saying.
No.
And I don't want people to get hope, feel hopeless or anything, because again, it's a fallen world.
We have fallen human nature.
Trump's not a messiah, RFK's not a messiah, Yeshua's the messiah, and we got to do the best we can with what we got.
But we also got to face facts.
And Jeffrey, look, I mean, you and I aren't, we're not perfect human beings either, but we have really strong fundamental morality, at least for God's sake, enough to say it's wrong to starve children to death.
I mean, why is this even debated?
You know, or to rape and traffic children, you know?
Well, yeah, even worse is rape and rape.
Rape and traffic little girls.
That's right.
That's what we're saying is okay With Diddy, and I mean, if you look at the Diddy, if you look at the details of Epstein, there were eight year old twins.
If you look at the details of the sodomy and humiliation that Diddy was doing, what we're saying is, we're like the Caligula Roman Empire and we're fine with that.
And if you're not speaking out against that, then that's what you are.
And I'm not going to be that.
Yeah, well, and if you don't have a moral foundation, your empire eventually crumbles, period.
Yes, yep.
America was great because she was good.
She was good because she was godly.
If we become godly again, we'll become good, we'll become great.
If we don't, we're never going to be great again.
I think individual regions can be good.
And of course, that's really the Bible belt in particular.
The metrosexual coasts are lost.
That terrain is seeded already.
And that's why you see all the fires and everything.
But you can't separate politics and morality.
You have to have that if you're going to have it.
I mean, that's what the Founder said.
can only have a republic of a virtuous populace.
And we've got to return to that.
And therefore, we have to have the line on the sand with Epstein and Diddy and all the others as well.
But I agree with what you just said, but a lot of, especially the older Christians in the Bible Belt, they're no better than the child mutilators because they support child starvation by Israel.
They think that by their fealty to Israel that they earn God's favor, no matter what Israel does.
we have a moral collapse on the right and the left in America, in my view.
That's the new age.
New Age or Christian Sionist pastors who ignore true Scripture, where Yeshua on the temple steps to the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin tells the vineyard story about how the vineyard workers killed his employees, beat up his son, and so they are no longer the chosen people.
He says it very clearly directly to them.
Yes.
And I don't know how, you know, American Christians and I run into them all the time, you know, nice people.
It's just like if you're around Shriners, you know, Shriners are wearing theing the cap, the red cap that was dipped Christian blood, you know, with the sword on it and everything like that.
And, you know, they're helping kids.
They just don't know what's going on.
So it's really important that, you know, you and I keep getting the message out there because the legacy intelligence community, Syopt media is dying, the middle age, the median age, I think, is seventy.
That's all dying.
True.
And so, again, for the resistance that the alternative, because now what you're seeing are all these stories and come out like, Wow, Russia Gate was faked.
Well, you and I covered that.
Yeah, years ago.
Years and years ago.
I mean, the stuff that they're putting out there now, like, is new, we all covered that, you know?
Well, Jeffrey, you'll appreciate this.
I tweeted this out.
I said, if Clinton, Clapper, Comey, and Brennan had only said that Trump was controlled by Israel instead of Russia, they wouldn't have had to fabricate the intelligence.
There you go.
That's really good.
Right there.
So, yeah, Trump is controlled by a foreign nation.
It's just not Russia.
And the Democrats are largely controlled by China.
You know?
Yeah.
So much of the Congress is dual citizenship.
Yeah.
So basically, we're in, I mean, if you're watching, and we're going to wrap this up, Jeffrey, I didn't mean to keep you, but to the people watching this, number one, I believe you need to have faith.
You need to have morality in your life.
You need to operate day by day with that sense of morality and ethics and human compassion.
And on top of that, you got to take care of yourself financially.
You got to take care of your health.
Because the system is not going to save you.
The system is actually going to destroy you if you trust that system because all these systems are crumbling..
Would you agree with that, Jeffrey?
Does that make sense?
Oh, totally.
I mean, that's why your health stuff is so important.
And, you know, we are really into that.
You know, and we're growing our own food.
And, you know, you know, you know, my kids, and I'm growing them up so they know how to work the land.
Yeah.
So they know how to shoot.
They go, they're home schooled.
They said the other day, Hey, dad, my teacher said we're democracy.
I'm like, what?
I'm going to talk to that teacher.
Now, that's a remote Liberty University thing.
And I think he was just talking about democracy in general.
But if that's the case, I'm going to get rid of be in this war.
And it's a law, it's resistance in plain sight.
It's not redoubt up in the mountains or anything like that.
And in the long run, I don't see how we lose in the long run.
Okay, just going to be an interesting time during this recalibration of nations and currencies and humans and wars and all that.
It's going to be a wild ride.
All right, thank you, Jeffrey.
Let me give out your website again.
Jeffrey, praether dot com is the site.
And don't forget about his Patreon page also.
Well, here's his main website, jeffreyprether.com, and there you can find his Prather Point show.
You can watch the live stream on Rumble and X and other places.
And then check out his Patreon page.
That's Patreon slash Jeffrey Prather, I believe, correct?
That's it.
Okay.
And thank you, Jeffrey, for joining us today.
I always appreciate your analysis.
I mean, you're the kind of person that we need.
for this republic to survive.
You know, so I just, I thank you for being available and for sharing your wisdom with the world.
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