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	Well, it's the last day of July, folks, July 31st, 2025.
	This is Brighteon Broadcast News.
	And thank you for joining me.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Appreciate you joining me.
	I'm going to start out by reading a pretty gloomy post here.
	Well, a couple of posts that I posted on social media earlier.
	Here's one of them, which is from my interview with Dennis Kucinich that I played yesterday.
	I said, the GOP is working on a plan to mass poison poor people across America, killing them with pesticide saturation of the food supply.
	Only the well-off can afford organic foods that aren't sprayed with these poisons.
	And the cheapest foods will be laced with poisons while the pesticide manufacturers are granted total legal immunity.
	That's Section 453, which is being pushed by the GOP.
	Just like the vaccine manufacturers.
	And then I say, listen to my conversation with former Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
	Now, if you missed my interview with Dennis Kucinich, you can find it, of course, on my channel on Brighteon and Rumble and other platforms.
	Now, I want to be clear about something here, that even as Trump is president, the extermination agenda against Americans, well, against humanity, is being accelerated.
	And that extermination agenda has multiple vectors.
	One of those vectors is the mass poisoning of the food supply.
	And the only way they can get away with it is first, they have to grant legal immunity to the pesticide and herbicide companies like Bayer.
	Once they have legal immunity, then those companies can add anything to their pesticides and herbicides.
	So they could theoretically sell Roundup with VX nerve gas in it, let's say, you know, just as a theoretical example, although they would have something that's in a liquid form, not a gaseous form.
	But they could put just instant death chemicals in their products on purpose, just like the vaccine manufacturers do.
	And you can't sue the vaccine manufacturers because Congress passed the law 1986 to make sure that you can't sue them.
	And they're about to do that for the pesticide and herbicide manufacturers.
	So understand, they can put actual death chemicals directly on the food supply and they can spray that on the crops and there's nothing that you can do in a court of law to stop them.
	So just like the fact that the vaccine manufacturers killed, what, at least 1.5 million Americans during the COVID jabs, now since everybody has to eat, you know, very difficult to say no to food for an extended period of time anyway,
	almost everybody who doesn't eat organic is going to be exposed to fatal levels of pesticides and herbicides as a kill vector extermination attempt to kill off potentially, combined with other methods, hundreds of millions of Americans.
	Now, you can't spray those chemicals on organic foods, though, under USDA organic certification programs.
	And of course, I know a lot about food contamination because I run a food lab and, you know, we test for glyphosate concentrations using a triple quad mass spec instrument, for example, using a method that we actually created.
	I know because I think we spent 18 months working on that method.
	And it's a very special method because it doesn't require what's called post-column derivatization.
	It does not require that.
	So it's a much better method.
	It has a very good limit of detection and limit of quantitation, etc.
	I'm not going to go into all the tech details.
	But we can't test for every chemical.
	You can only test for the chemicals that you know you're looking for.
	And that's one thing that a lot of people don't understand about the way modern laboratories work is that typically you can only test for chemicals that you know you want to look for.
	Now, there are other kinds of mass spec instruments like time of flight instruments that can determine the accurate mass of other molecules, but only the molecules that happen to work with the chemistry of your columns and your gradients, etc.
	And that can be very limited.
	So my point is, the pesticide and herbicide companies could put secret chemicals into their products that nobody's testing for.
	Not the EPA, not the FDA for sure, not us, not anybody.
	And the only way to avoid those chemicals would be to buy certified organic because again, the synthetic chemicals are not allowed to be sprayed on organic crops.
	And the farmers in America that actually engage in organically produced foods and so on, it is a rigorous audited process, by the way.
	Now, it doesn't test for heavy metals, just to be clear.
	And actually, there's, I mean, technically there's no testing required even for pesticides or herbicides, but there's tracing of the inputs into the food crops.
	So if a farmer were to spray, let's say, a field that's certified organic, if he were to spray it, sooner or later he would be caught and he would be committing a serious crime at that point.
	So it's very rare that that happens.
	But of course, organic food is much more expensive than non-organic food.
	And you know this if you've shopped with us, HealthRangerStore.com.
	Our foods are not cheap foods because they're almost all certified organic and they are all laboratory tested.
	But again, we can't test for chemicals that we don't even know Might be synthesized and put into crops as poisons, but we don't sell non-organic products except for things that can't be certified organic, like salt.
	And of course, nobody sprays pesticides on salt.
	What would be the point, right?
	Or herbicides on salt.
	There aren't weeds in salt fields, is my point, right?
	So nobody does that.
	So here's the deal.
	Then people who are having difficulty making ends meet, they're going to be buying, of course, non-organic foods because that's all they can afford.
	And that's actually, I mean, that's most of the middle class, and that's almost all lower-income people, let's say, poor people.
	Almost everybody's eating non-organic food.
	And almost every restaurant is serving universally non-organic food.
	There are very few exceptions to that.
	And the restaurants that are exceptions are only located in certain cities, like Los Angeles, for example, or New York City.
	And their menu prices are five times higher than everybody else probably for serving organic, right?
	So what this means, in other words, is what Trump is overseeing with the GOP is an actual mass poisoning of poor people and lower income people or even middle class people in America by legalizing the total saturation of the food supply with deadly poisons and giving the American people zero legal recourse.
	Even if they are given cancer, even if they are killed by those chemicals, they cannot sue.
	And the Supreme Court has already ruled on the legal immunity of vaccine manufacturers.
	The Supreme Court ruled that the vaccine court sits higher than the U.S. Supreme Court.
	Did you know that?
	That was a few years ago.
	So the same thing is going to happen with pesticides.
	So in other words, if you can't afford organic food, you are going to die from your poison-saturated non-organic foods.
	And that is all by design.
	And that is being put into law by Republicans on purpose.
	And you know why?
	Folks, it should be obvious because poor people don't vote Republican.
	You got it?
	You got it?
	And I don't want to hear from anybody.
	Oh, no, they're not that evil.
	Come on.
	It's 2025.
	What have we all just lived through?
	Mass extermination campaigns, hospital homicide, Trump giving bombs to Israel to bomb children to death and starve children to death in Gaza.
	Don't tell me that the GOP has a heart that they care about children, that they care about the poor.
	I mean, but neither do the Democrats, just to be clear.
	Don't tell me that anybody in power in Washington, D.C. cares about human beings with maybe very few exceptions.
	Very few exceptions.
	I mean, like, I think my congressman is one of the exceptions.
	I think Thomas Massey cares about humanity.
	I think Senator Rand Paul cares about humanity.
	And there are other exceptions.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene is really demonstrating her ability to stand up against some of this insanity.
	And there may be others.
	It's not a complete list.
	But overall, don't tell me that anybody in a position of power gives a crap about the mass poisoning of the American people.
	After all, almost without exception, they all went along with the COVID jabs, didn't they?
	And the COVID jabs were biological weapons developed with a chain of custody traced back to Fort Dietrich, Maryland with the Department of Defense building biological weapons to murder Americans.
	And yesterday, I played the documentary for you, the mini documentary about bioweapons.
	And I don't know, do I need to play that again today?
	Give you the whole history?
	Maybe I'll put that at the end of today's broadcast here because we have documented the entire history of the United States government deliberately using the American people, even in cities, as guinea pigs for their mass death experiments.
	It has been going on for generations, if not actually centuries, in one form or another.
	So I don't want to hear from anybody.
	Oh, they wouldn't do that.
	Of course they would do that.
	They are doing it.
	They've been doing it.
	I mean, has RFK Jr. blocked mRNA technology?
	No.
	Why?
	Because it's the depopulation kill shot technology to exterminate Americans.
	That's why.
	He wants you focused on, oh, fruit loops.
	They're not going to have red dye in fruit loops maybe one day if they keep their promise.
	They pledged.
	I saw RFK Jr. tweeting that they pledged.
	Oh, really?
	You're telling me they pledged?
	They pledged to take the red dye out.
	Well, the problem with companies that make such a pledge is that for the pledge to mean anything, the company has to operate with integrity and honor.
	And if that company operated with integrity and honor, they never would have used synthetic dyes in the first place.
	So by definition, they are not trustworthy companies, are they?
	So their pledge is worth exactly nothing.
	And, you know, Trump and HHS and all the RFK Jr. supporters are out there saying, oh, it's victory, victory.
	They're going to take the food dyes out.
	Our clean food army, we are so successful.
	Nah, you didn't do Jack because none of that has happened and most of it will never happen.
	I remember in the 1990s when Bill Clinton claimed that he negotiated this wonderful new thing that they were going to take sodas out of public schools.
	All the soda vending machines were going to be removed.
	It was a deal.
	And it was going to happen in the future.
	And then, of course, it never Happened.
	I mean, not under Bill Clinton's watch.
	Most of the sodas did get removed, but not all of them over the following 20 years or so, but had nothing to do with Bill Clinton.
	So they loved to reach some kind of a deal and then announce it today and then get you to imagine that it's already happened when it's not even supposed to happen until the future and it's only a pledge that's backed by nothing, kind of like the dollar.
	It's backed by nothing.
	So again, you are about to be subjected to, I mean, really, this is, I mean, I hate to bring up the Holocaust, but you know how they use Zyklon B in the gas chambers, or at least allegedly, that's the history that is largely cited about the Holocaust.
	What if they didn't need gas chambers?
	What if they just put Zyklon B on all the food and everybody that ate the food just died within nine months or something?
	That would still be a Holocaust.
	Now, in history, there have been other famines, obviously, like the Holodomor that killed millions of Ukrainians.
	It was carried out under Stalin, I believe, and it was politically motivated to starve out an entire group of people that Stalin saw as a threat to his power base.
	And this was in the 1930s, by the way, so many, many years ago, under the former Soviet Union.
	And that was just famine and starvation, kind of like what Israel is doing to Gaza right now.
	Well, exactly like that, but on a much larger scale.
	And that's one way that governments exterminate people.
	Yes, it's very effective.
	But a more covert way is to let people eat themselves to death, you see.
	So in America, what do Americans love to do?
	They love to eat.
	We have all-you-can-eat buffets.
	We have, what's it called, the Golden Corral.
	I mean, you literally role play as a head of cattle in there, and you put your head down and you graze the buffet.
	You know, it's called the Golden Corral.
	And the food quality there, in my opinion, is so bad, a farmer wouldn't even feed it to his cattle because, well, you need to keep your cattle healthier than that.
	But the American people love to eat.
	And so, just like you can buy ant bait, that is a delicious, delicious gel that ants love to eat.
	Oh, man, it must taste amazing to ants.
	I mean, I've used some of this before.
	Not my preference because I don't like to have poisons around, but I have used it in years past.
	And it's a little gel.
	I think it's made by, I don't know, maybe it's Bayer.
	It's either Bayer or it's Eli Lilly or it's one of these fertilizer pharmaceutical chemical companies.
	It seems like they're all the same.
	But it's one of these main companies and you squeeze out a little bit of gel on the countertop or wherever they are.
	And then the ants come in and they gather around and they eat it and eat it and eat it.
	And then they take it back to their nest and then they share it with their little ant brothers and sisters.
	And then they all die.
	That is now what's being applied to us.
	It's, hey, isn't this food so affordable?
	Yeah, and we're going to have a universal basic income on your CBDC so you can go to the grocery store, you know, with your food stamp card, your UBI, and you can buy up all the cheap non-organic food and you can eat yourself to hog heaven.
	The thing is, you're just going to die in a few months as you do that because they're going to lace the food supply with all these deadly chemicals.
	And this politically benefits the GOP.
	See, the Democrats cheat in elections by rerunning ballots over and over again, stuffing ballots into the machines, making sure that they can hack the machines and alter the votes, and also, of course, processing dead people as if they were active voters and then applying ballots to dead people or non-existent people or just name variations of real people, but 27 different variations of their name.
	So they multiply the effect of their vote fraud.
	That's how Democrats cheat.
	Republicans are just going to kill off all the poor people who eat food by poisoning the food supply.
	There you go.
	You see, it's a whole different approach to winning elections.
	Just let them all die.
	I guess this would be a let them eat cake moment, actually, in history, but let them eat toxic cake laced with pesticides, right?
	That's what this is.
	The reason they're rushing this law through right now is because they have to poison all the food crops and get people to eat them and die before the 2026 midterms.
	That's part of the GOP's plan for staying in power.
	But, of course, there's going to be a lot of GOP supporters who are also fat and happy cattle grazers at Golden Corral, and they don't buy organic, and they're not going to do very well either, especially if they're also jabbed up.
	You can imagine the spike protein factories in your body combined with the saturated toxic poisons in the food supply, plus all the 5G radiation exposure and the chemtrails and whatever else they're throwing at you these days.
	The life expectancy of Americans who engage in that kind of consumption is not going to be very good.
	So I sent out another post on social media, and you can follow my social media.
	I'm HealthRanger on X. I'm also HealthRanger at Brighteon.social, which is our uncensored platform.
	Much better than X. better quality of users there.
	And very rapid news coverage, by the way.
	I'm also on Brighteon.io, which is the decentralized version of our platform.
	But I posted this.
	Many of the humans on this platform right now will no longer be living by the year 2030.
	Not from natural causes either, but because your federal government is rolling out multiple vectors of mass extermination.
	AI automation of medication management, AI surveillance of vaccine compliance, legal immunity for pesticide manufacturers so that foods can be saturated with poisons, toxic chemtrails, engineered food scarcity, nuclear war, engineered financial collapse, and more.
	If you aren't already a prepper who stacks precious metals, firearms, storable foods, emergency medicines, and more, you're already way behind the curve.
	And if you are obedient to government messaging, you simply won't live much longer because you'll walk right into your own death trap currently being set by the FDA, CDC, NIH, DOD, and other nefarious agencies to achieve rapid depopulation at your expense.
	So be a prepper or be gone soon.
	It's as simple as that.
	You'll soon see.
	That's my message.
	Be a prepper or you'll be dead.
	Bottom line.
	Be a prepper or you'll be dead.
	And the reason I set this out is because I see a lot of Trump supporters that are like, rah, rah, rah, the economy is the best ever.
	No, it isn't.
	It's collapsing, actually.
	Rah, rah, rah.
	Food prices are the lowest ever.
	That's what Trump said.
	No, they're not.
	Go to the grocery store, for God's sake.
	Just look around.
	You know, rah, rah, rah, America's winning the trade wars.
	We're winning the tariff wars.
	No, you're not.
	You're pushing the entire world away from the dollar and into bricks.
	And by the way, I have an interview coming up today with Andy Shackman.
	We talk about that exact topic.
	But all these people are like, rah, rah, rah, Trump is awesome.
	And I'm thinking, these people don't have any plans for things to go wrong because they think they think Trump is winning.
	They think America is winning.
	They think everything's great.
	So they're living in this delusional dream world and they don't have any backup plans for a collapse, for a food supply collapse, a power grid collapse, war, nuclear terrorism, false flags, whatever, all these scenarios.
	Even the earthquake yesterday had people fleeing Honolulu and they had a lot of trouble getting out of the city because they didn't have a plan to get out and the city is too dense.
	So it was gridlock, you know?
	But these people think they're winning because Trump is their president.
	And probably even a lot of people listening to this, probably you voted for Trump too.
	And that's okay.
	I'm not harping on you because you voted for Trump, but I'm saying have a plan because Trump is not actually succeeding right now.
	In fact, the main emphasis of this podcast today is that it looks like Trump is marching America down a path of total destruction, economic destruction, that is dollar destruction, and also kinetic destruction with World War III.
	So I wanted to get to that.
	And of course, the GOP is wanting to mass poison the entire population, or at least the non-organic consuming population, the golden corral crowd, you know, with the pesticides in the food supply.
	Unlimited pesticides.
	No limit whatsoever.
	Now, in my interview with Andy Scheckman coming up today, and he's the CEO of Miles Franklin, of course.
	He's the expert in BRICS.
	I mean, he was the very first guy to put BRICS on my radar, and that was many years ago.
	And I was like, whoa, this guy makes sense.
	He is tracking the dots on this.
	He's been right.
	And wait till you hear what's happened next, because we've had a lot of tariff action these last couple of days.
	Trump just slapped a 50% tariff on Brazil.
	I think a 25% tariff on India.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Tariffs on South Korea and, I don't know, a bunch of other countries.
	He's back into his random number generator tariff frenzy again.
	He's slapping tariffs all over the world.
	He does this every few months while his family, no doubt, is making all kinds of money on the whipsaw of the markets going up and down on the commodities and companies affected by these tariffs, you know?
	The churn is generating billions of dollars in profits for somebody, somebody who knows what's coming.
	Yeah, I gee, I wonder.
	But Trump is putting our nation on a path of economic destruction.
	Andy Shackman says that it's very clear that Trump's plan is to destroy the dollar.
	To destroy the dollar.
	And as you know, I've interviewed many times before John Rubino from Dollar Collapse, or he was the founder of Dollar Collapse.
	And, you know, Rubino has known for a long time the dollar is going to zero.
	Well, now we have the details of how that plan actually works.
	And as I pointed out to Andy in our conversation today, which you'll hear coming up, said, Andy, okay, so if Trump's going to collapse the dollar in order to save the debt market, that is the treasuries, that means that everybody who holds most of their savings or wealth in dollars is going to be wiped out.
	And Andy was like, yep.
	I mean, he had a lot more to say than that, but he agreed with that basic premise.
	So think about this.
	Most certainly poor Americans or low-income Americans and middle-class Americans, most of them, probably 99% of them, don't own any gold or silver, right?
	The vast majority of them don't even have any savings.
	I mean, they don't have $1,000 to their name.
	I don't even know how you function like that, but that's the way a lot of people live in America at the lower scale of the income spectrum.
	Now, I know that's not you listening to this.
	Most of you listening to this have some level of gold and silver, so you're not in the bucket that I'm about to describe.
	Because the bucket of those who do not own gold and silver, they are going to be so financially wiped out, they will have nothing left to lose.
	And as Gerald Salenti says, when people have nothing left to lose, what do they do?
	They lose it.
	And so isn't it convenient for the powers that be that at the same time that they're going to lose everything financially with the great taking and the reset, etc., that they're also killing themselves off by eating poison-saturated foods because that's been legalized by Congress.
	Huh, what an amazing coincidence.
	So therefore, dead people don't start revolutions.
	Make sense?
	So, you know, when Antoinette said, let them eat cake, well, you know, that was it for the enraged masses.
	And, you know, and they marched on Paris, right?
	But dead people don't march on Washington, D.C., do they?
	No, they just die.
	They just die.
	And when they die, the government no longer has to pay out Social Security or food stamps or Medicare, which is a huge part of the federal budget.
	So I believe that part of Trump's effort to balance the federal budget, not that he's ever going to actually get all the way there, but he is desperately trying to reduce the national debt.
	He's trying to refinance a lot of the debt into like 50-year redeemable bonds that Andy Sheckman talks about.
	But he's also trying to reduce the entitlements burden of the United States government.
	And, you know, look, to his credit, Trump and his team are trying to, I think they're trying to kick the can down the road a little bit longer.
	But in order to do so, they know, this is my analysis, this is my opinion.
	I think that they know they have to kill off a couple hundred million Americans.
	And the plan to do that is to poison them, to vaccinate them, to have them killed off in World War III, to chemtrail them, to 5G them, etc., etc.
	These are multiple kill vectors.
	And if they kill off enough, especially the welfare class people, they know that not only will the GOP win every election for many, many cycles to come, because there won't be many Democrats left to vote, but at the same time, then they can end those outflows of all those entitlements from the federal government, and they can give the U.S. Treasury a few more years of runway.
	And they might be able to then grow the economy enough to grow us out of this debt quagmire.
	At least that's what Andy Shackman thinks.
	I'm not sure that I agree with that, but it's clear that Trump is going to attempt it.
	Understand?
	Understand where we are in history?
	And look, I don't apologize for being so blunt about this.
	I've also put together the numbers, of course, on the power grid.
	I talked about that earlier this week for a couple of days.
	The only way for the United States to remain competitive in the AI race to superintelligence is to greatly reduce the residential electricity consumption on the power grid.
	And I'm not going to go into all the numbers again, because I covered this Monday and Tuesday, but China produces more than twice the amount of total power as the United States.
	And building nuclear power plants will take up to 20 years in the United States.
	So the only way to free up new power for AI data centers is to, well, reduce the number of people using power.
	And it turns out that just like dead people don't vote and dead people don't collect social security, at least not for very long, dead people also don't use air conditioning.
	Can you imagine that?
	They don't use air conditioning.
	They don't charge electric vehicles.
	They don't engage in Bitcoin mining.
	They don't use microwaves and hair dryers.
	So if our government arranges for 200 million Americans to no longer be living, I've done the math on this.
	It's estimated that that would free up 1,500 terawatt hours of power annually, which is enough to power several data centers.
	And in fact, 1,500 terawatt hours is equivalent to, what would that be?
	I think that's...
	Because, yeah, each nuke plant is about 10 terawatt hours annually.
	So, yeah, there's about 150 nuclear power plants equivalent.
	So since we can't build the nuke plants overnight, guess what?
	The government is legalizing the mass extermination of the American people, which frees up the electricity.
	And you might think, well, that's crazy.
	Why would a government kill its own people?
	Are you kidding me?
	Have you read anything about history?
	But something's different today that has never been true in history, which is the rise of the robots.
	So why was the population a good indicator of national strength up until now?
	Why?
	Because of the outputs of the people.
	And those outputs are cognitive outputs and labor outputs.
	Now, there are, of course, many cases throughout history, such as China, before we recognize it in 1971 under Richard Nixon, or was it 73?
	It was sometime in the Nixon administration.
	Before we recognized China and then began a lot of technology transfer to China and a lot of industrialization of China, China had a lot of population, but very little output.
	That changed in the 1970s.
	And now, of course, China is the leading economy of production in the entire world by far.
	And China got there by leveraging and exploiting the cognitive output and the physical output of its own people.
	Same thing with the United States from its first founding, you know, 1776 all the way to today.
	What is it that built America?
	Well, it was the brains and it was the elbows and hard work of your grandmas and grandpas and their grandmas and grandpas, etc., right?
	And then, plus, of course, we learned how to use horses and oxen and then eventually steam engines and then, you know, combustion engines and then electricity and, you know, motors, et cetera, et cetera.
	But along this entire way, you've always had to have humans in the loop.
	You needed the output of humans to be a strong country.
	Right about 2030, that stops being necessary.
	Because right about 2030, or you could say the 2030s, let's call it the decade of the 2030s, both cognition, well, cognition is taken over by AI and reasoning models, and we're already seeing that in spades, especially with the cognitive decline of the human race.
	Everybody's getting dumbed down, at least in the West.
	But then the automation of robots, especially humanoid robots with opposable thumbs, that really begins to ramp up in the 2030s.
	And so there you have the replacement of human labor, and then the strength of a nation no longer depends on its population.
	Understand?
	The strength of a nation no longer depends on its population.
	And in fact, industrial output of a nation will no longer be tied to its population.
	It will be tied to, instead, its embracing of technology and its ability to scale up technology.
	And the number one most important input in the scaling of technology is electricity.
	You see?
	So in other words, as the whole world is shifting from a human-based cognition output and labor output model to an artificial intelligence and robotics output model, then you no longer need lots of people who eat lots of food.
	Instead, you need lots of power plants that produce a lot of energy that goes into the robots and the AI.
	And if you don't make that transition, then you're going to be left behind as an agrarian nation growing corn and soybeans and feeding your obese population instead of being an advanced technologically equipped nation that's pioneering the future.
	So that's why it is no coincidence that at this moment in history, our government wants to mass poison the people with the food supply because they are no longer needed.
	This is why they are being mass poisoned with vaccines.
	This is why they're being mass medicated with toxic prescription medications.
	And it's why HHS just announced a super creepy new program.
	See if I have the link to play for you here.
	Where they are going to, they're going to have AI automation of your medical ecosystem run by Microsoft at Google and OpenAI.
	Yeah.
	And it's going to monitor your medication compliance.
	Uh-huh.
	And it's the brave new world that you've been begging for to have AI control your health or your sickness, actually, your sick care management.
	This has just been announced by the Trump administration.
	Let's take a look at this creepy video.
	Imagine scanning a QR code at your doctor's office and instantly sharing your medical history, just like when you board a flight.
	Imagine having an AI assistant that knows your care plan and helps you manage medications with confidence.
	Picture patients truly at the center of their care, building stronger relationships with providers who can focus on healing instead of on paperwork, freed from the administrative burden that technology should have solved years ago.
	That's not science fiction.
	That's what healthcare can and should look like.
	We're finally at a moment where real progress is possible.
	CMS, under Administrator Oz's leadership, understands both the urgency and the opportunity.
	CMS is building the core infrastructure, a national healthcare directory, secure data access, and modernized systems.
	But the future of healthcare technology can't come only from the government.
	The apps, services, and tools that make this data useful in people's lives must come from you, the private sector.
	We're creating the space for new ideas to rise so better solutions can compete, scale, and help real people like Morgan.
	Step into this space with us.
	This isn't just a showcase, it's a national sign of acceleration.
	It's about action.
	We're asking real companies to make real commitments, to build data sharing networks, to create apps that deliver real health outcomes, to help us kill the clipboard and give people a healthcare system that's smart and secure.
	Let's stop waiting and let's definitely stop vaccine.
	Let's start building.
	The right data at the right time can mean the difference between loss and hope.
	The time is now.
	Are you in?
	Produced by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
	Okay.
	I posted about that.
	I said the woman narrating this video is my worst nightmare rendition of a Terminator killbot.
	Okay.
	So if you read between the lines there, what's being proposed is to bring in all of these private sector tech companies that already spy on you, that already pushed massive censorship, that pushed vaccine propaganda, mass propaganda, that blocked your access to knowledge about nutrition and alternative medicine and natural health, et cetera, to put those in charge of your medical data for proper sharing.
	Yeah.
	And so just like President Trump through the Genius Act is allowing JPMorgan to act as the proxy for the central bank digital currency, which is really a private bank central currency that's surveilled by the government, The government is going to also use big tech companies that are, in my opinion, all criminal operators.
	I mean, they should all be shut down.
	The ones that engaged in censorship, which is all of them, the big names that I can think of, they're all engaged in censorship and disinformation on purpose.
	They all pushed narratives and agendas that got Americans killed during COVID.
	But the Trump administration trusts them now and wants to use them to track and share and monitor everything about you, just like RFK Jr. was pushing wearables.
	So he wants you to wear all of these biometric surveillance devices that then share your data with big tech, which isn't subjected to constitutional limitations, you know, violations of your Fourth Amendment, for example, right?
	So the government then pushes private corporations to engage in acts of illegal surveillance that the government itself could not do without a warrant, you know, like a search warrant.
	And the government will use J.P. Morgan to spy on your finances without a search warrant.
	You see how this works?
	So this private-public partnership has a name, and the name is fascism.
	This is called fascism, or it's called sometimes technocracy.
	So this is the future that Trump is building.
	And you'll notice that if you're going to poison some large percentage of the population through the food supply, you need a way to monitor the effectiveness of your extermination chemicals.
	Just like if you're spraying weeds with glyphosate, you might have a robot that takes pictures of the weeds to see how many died.
	And if you didn't kill them all, you might re-spray that area, right?
	That would be automation of weed control.
	Well, just like Planned Parenthood says that human beings are weeds.
	I think the founder of Planned Parenthood mentioned that black people, in her view, were human weeds.
	That's an actual quote that, of course, I strongly disagree with that, but that's the terminology that she used.
	The way the government looks at human beings is as human weeds.
	And if you're going to exterminate the human weeds, you have to monitor the effectiveness of your pesticide and herbicide food saturation programs.
	And how do you do that?
	With wearables.
	So the function of the wearables is to monitor your death status so that they can then adjust your exposure, your medications to accelerate the deaths or to say you need to go get another vaccine to accelerate it or to activate it.
	Or they might even send you free money or free coupons for a certain restaurant or a certain food chain that they know serves heavily saturated toxic food that would kill you more quickly.
	So if you're not dying fast enough, they will know it and they'll use their AI algorithms, which is exactly what Google has done with Israel and the IDF in order to choose targets to exterminate in Gaza.
	Just like I said for the last couple of years, everything that they're doing in Gaza, they're going to do in America.
	They perfect the technology of human extermination in Gaza and then they apply it in America with a happy-looking video to say, are you in?
	Are you in?
	We're going to build the future together.
	No, you're not.
	You're running an extermination campaign.
	This is a Holocaust where you don't have the gas chambers, but you still have the poisons.
	You're just convincing people to poison themselves, and then you're using wearables to monitor how quickly they are dying so that you can adjust your poisons to make sure you are reaching your extermination goals.
	And when all this is said and done, then America would be transformed into a country with fewer than 100 million people living, which is the Deagle report projection, by the way, with lots and lots of robot automation, AI surveillance, and AI data centers.
	So instead of having a lot of humans, you would have a lot of robots.
	And then that will give the U.S. more dominance moving ahead into the future.
	In other words, they don't need you anymore.
	They don't need you.
	And they're working to exterminate you as quickly as possible.
	They don't even need human soldiers for the military.
	And it's important to understand that Donald Trump, it looks to me like he's going to start bombing Russia in less than 10 days.
	So mark your calendars, folks.
	What is today?
	It's the 31st of July.
	Okay.
	So I am going to guess that Trump will authorize the long-range missile strikes on Russia either this Saturday, August 2nd, or Saturday, August 9th.
	Okay, those are my two best guesses.
	August 2nd or August 9th.
	Why Saturday?
	Well, because they want to control the stock market fallout and they want to suppress gold and silver prices in the early Monday markets before people react to the World War III panic.
	But it's very clear to me that Trump is all in now with the warmongers.
	He may have campaigned as the peace president, but actually now, for whatever reason, or maybe he was faking it, he's all in for war.
	He's basically turned into John Bolton when it comes to war.
	He wants full-blown war with Russia, and he's willing to risk everything.
	Well, actually, I think he wants America to be nuked.
	And he needs to provoke Putin into nuking America.
	Now, I've talked about this earlier this week, but I just want to remind you of a couple of important points here.
	Remember that just as mass poisoning of food supply tends to kill low-income people who tend to be Democrats, nuking U.S. cities also kills mostly Democrats because who lives in the cities?
	Mostly Democrats.
	And it does Not actually nuke the AI data centers, which are almost always located far from the downtown areas because property is cheaper and more abundant.
	You can build a sprawling AI data center out in the country or the suburbs.
	And also, the power grid substations are outside the downtown areas.
	So they feed power into the downtown, but the substations and especially the power generators, the coal-fired power plants, the natural gas plants, etc., are not located in the inner cities.
	And right now, given that a lot of U.S. cities are half-ghost towns anyway, since the post-COVID era, nobody wants to lease commercial buildings, do they?
	I mean, the malls are mostly empty and closed down all over the country.
	Office space, you could get it on the cheap.
	There's actually not, probably, in Trump's mind, there's not a lot of economic damage that comes from nuking a few cities.
	But it has tremendous benefits for the party in power.
	One benefit is, again, they get rid of a lot of people that vote, that don't vote for Republicans.
	And again, I don't want to hear from anybody who they would never do that.
	They've already done this.
	They already allowed Pearl Harbor to happen.
	They already allowed 9-11 attacks to happen.
	They already pushed Operation Warp Speed and injected and killed 1.5 million Americans.
	So that's not even an argument to say, oh, the government would never kill its own people.
	That's not a rational argument.
	That's just an argument from somebody who is ignorant, just doesn't know anything about reality.
	Because we can point to numerous, numerous, even the Tuskegee experiments.
	They just round up a bunch of black people and use them as lab rats.
	I mean, so come on, don't even cite that.
	But by getting Russia to nuke U.S. cities, then Trump can, of course, declare war, shovel all kinds of money into the military-industrial complex, which is a really powerful money laundering machine.
	They will launder money back into the campaign finance donations for all the Republicans at the same time that they're killing off Democrats with the food toxins, etc.
	This is actually, this is a permanent power strategy to keep the GOP in power for a lifetime.
	The Democrats wouldn't stand a chance.
	They would be dead.
	They would be gone.
	Their cities would be smoking ruins.
	But it wouldn't take down America's AI data centers, you see.
	And you might say, well, that's crazy.
	It would irradiate all the farmland.
	Yeah, see, you're not thinking yet about where we're going.
	They don't need the farmland.
	You got to listen to what I'm saying here.
	They don't need the farmland because it's not a people-centered future.
	It's a robot-centered future.
	Robots don't eat corn and soybeans.
	Robots eat electricity.
	So they don't need the farmland.
	They don't care if there's radiation fallout on the soils.
	They don't care about the half-life of cesium-137.
	They'll just set up a bunch of solar panels and wind turbines and nuclear power plants all over the place, power the AI data centers, and just say, hey, it's the new America.
	You ready to join the new America?
	You know, for those who are not dead yet, I mean, there still will be maybe, you know, 140 million Americans left alive after this.
	And, you know, those Americans, well, they'll mostly be people who eat organic and who can financially survive the collapse of the dollar.
	And it's going to be a lot of preppers, etc.
	So, you know, it's going to be a totally different demographic if this indeed happens.
	But I believe that Trump is now trying to start World War III.
	He wants Russia to nuke America.
	And the way to do that is for Trump to launch a surprise attack on Russia, possibly within the next 10 days, using cruise missiles that forces Russia into a nuclear response.
	That's what Trump is trying to do.
	And you can bet there's a whole bunch of people in the Trump administration that are just pushing him to do exactly that.
	This is what they want.
	They want an excuse to go into a new world war with all the benefits.
	You know, they can write off all the financial losses and all the debt, you know, force majeure everything.
	Yeah, we don't have entitlements anymore.
	It's Russia's fault.
	And they point the finger to the other side of the world.
	It's Russia's fault.
	They nuked us.
	That's why the dollar collapsed, you see.
	So this is the perfect excuse for the great taking.
	This is the perfect excuse for why the American people find themselves poisoned and destitute, having no money, no health, and ultimately no life.
	And it can all be blamed on the Russians.
	And in fact, they can even tell people who are dying from the poisons that are saturated in the food supply, they can say, no, no, no, that's radiation fallout.
	You're dying from radiation fallout.
	Just like during COVID when they actually dropped aerosolized poisons on the population in New York City, and then they said it was COVID.
	And then they took those people into the hospitals who were symptomatic from the contact poisons.
	And then they said, oh, they died from COVID.
	No, they died from being killed with hospital homicide and put on ventilators and given remdesivir until their lungs filled with fluid and their kidneys failed or whatever.
	And then when they died, they said it's COVID.
	You see, they can always cause a mass death event and then blame it on something else.
	They can kill everybody with food poisons.
	They can call it radiation.
	You see what I mean?
	And they can blame it on Russia.
	It's Russia's fault.
	This is the game that's being played.
	Now, I had someone ask me this week, say, Mike, how is it that they even let you say this?
	Why haven't they killed you yet?
	Well, the answer is very simple.
	I've actually answered this before, because I'm censored everywhere.
	YouTube has my voice print.
	I can't post any video talking about anything using my voice.
	I mean, if I were reading nursery rhymes on YouTube, those would be banned because my voice print is on the YouTube instant ban list.
	I've even, unfortunately, generated strikes for other people's channels when they post my videos.
	So I am arguably the most banned person on the planet.
	I was banned and deplatformed even before Alex Jones.
	I'm shadow banned on X. X won't link to Brightion.
	We have sued the federal government and X and Google and YouTube and a bunch of others.
	We sued the DOD.
	That lawsuit is still pending.
	And it's going to take years to work its way through the court system.
	And until then, I continue to be blacklisted.
	So I am unable to reach anything but a tiny remnant of individuals, typically those who just heard about me from somebody and who sought out Brighteon.com, sought out my channel, etc.
	I'll probably be banned on Rumble at some point too.
	But for the moment, I'm not.
	Let's hope Rumble honors free speech and keeps me on there, but we'll see.
	I know that I'm certainly targeted with banning in the UK because it was the UK government and MI6 to some degree that actually laundered the censorship requests through the DOD, putting my name on the list, or my company's name, on the lists that were then handed over to big tech in the United States to be completely de-platformed and censored.
	So I can't even post videos on Vimeo.
	I can't even post anything on LinkedIn.
	I can't post anywhere except on the platforms that my company built.
	Now you know why we built our platforms.
	It's the only way I would ever have a voice.
	And as a result, this is a really interesting truth about this.
	As a result, I actually have more freedom of speech than Joe Rogan because my audience is a tiny fraction of Joe Rogan's audience.
	In other words, if Joe Rogan were to say the things that I'm saying, they probably would kill him.
	Or they would threaten to and they would silence him or they'd threaten his family or whatever.
	The only reason I'm able to say the things that I'm saying right now is because my audience is more than 99% wiped out because of this high-level deep state censorship algorithm that bans me on every major platform.
	So as a result of that, I have a lot of freedom of speech because I'm barely reaching anybody.
	If you are fortunate enough to be a listener to my podcast, just remember, you're one of very few Americans who are even aware that this podcast exists.
	In other words, what the powers that be know is that even if I'm totally right about everything I'm saying here, my voice won't have any impact on the masses of Americans.
	And most people, by the way, especially for today's podcast, most people in America would never believe what I'm telling them anyway.
	And that's actually the most powerful point in all of this.
	When you tell people the truth, if that truth is horrifying enough, they will decide not to believe it.
	Because they just can't imagine how much evil there is in the government.
	Most people can't.
	And I know Alex Jones had this same issue for a very long time.
	I mean, still does to some extent.
	And of course, you know, I've hosted his show before.
	I've been a guest.
	I'll probably be a guest again soon.
	I just haven't had time to get into the studio there with him.
	But he's doing great work.
	And all these years, Alex would say something like, for example, Oklahoma City.
	Okay.
	The bombing of Oklahoma City was carried out by the FBI.
	Timothy McVay was just a Patsy.
	He was recruited and, you know, classic FBI terror plot.
	This is the way they've operated, you know, for decades.
	But when Alex Jones talked about that, nobody would believe it.
	Nobody would believe that the FBI would bomb a building that housed its own office.
	Except, of course, certain people, all the high-level people, they were told to not be there that day.
	But there was a children's nursery in that building so that they could have the bodies of dead babies and bloodied infants and whatever on TV to say how heinous this explosion was.
	It was all an FBI plot.
	So when Alex Jones would talk about that years ago, most people would say, we don't even believe you.
	That's insane.
	That's crazy.
	And that continued until probably, frankly, until COVID.
	And then the experience of COVID caused a lot of people to go back and start rethinking things like 9-11 or Oklahoma City or Waco, Texas, things like that.
	And like, oh, yeah, okay, now we see the pattern.
	Yeah, the government is waging the war against the people.
	We see that now.
	But back when it happened in the 1990s, nobody believed that it was any kind of a conspiracy.
	Nobody believed it.
	And today, right now, the things that I'm saying in this podcast here, most people are incapable of believing it.
	They will not believe that the FDA, for example, would allow the food supply to deliberately contain toxic poisons.
	And yet, and yet the FDA allows that now.
	And of course, the USDA allows it, and the EPA is in bed with the pesticide and herbicide companies.
	And the EPA allows toxic bio-sludge to be spread on farms as fertilizer, and it's loaded with PFAS.
	You know, forever chemicals.
	So the people who say these things, oh, they would never do that.
	You know, if it were dangerous, the government wouldn't allow it.
	I mean, that's so laughable.
	The only person who can say that is someone who's either a retard or completely ignorant of reality.
	The government allows you to eat cancer-causing chemicals in hot dogs like sodium nitrite.
	The government allows toxic excitotoxins, MSG and aspartame in the food supply.
	I mean, the government allows pesticides, herbicides, heavy metals, mercury, lead, cadmium, arsenic in the food supply.
	They allow it.
	In fact, the FDA has the highest limits that are allowable of any modern country in the whole world.
	You can legally poison foods in America at insane levels that would be illegal in Canada.
	They would be illegal in Japan.
	They would be illegal in Taiwan.
	They would be illegal in China.
	Or especially illegal in the EU, because the EU has very strict limits.
	But in the United States, a company can deliberately poison the food supply right now with heavy metals at insane levels like up to 10 parts per million mercury, which is extremely toxic.
	And the FDA says, oh, that's perfectly allowable.
	No worries.
	Yeah.
	Those are the published guidelines.
	And yet, the vast majority of Americans have no idea that that's the case.
	So not only do I reach an audience too small to cause a mass awakening, let's say, I also, for people to understand my message, they have to be highly intelligent.
	And that's also not very common.
	So it's actually a small percentage of a small percentage of the population of America that can, A, listen to what I have to say here, and B, process it and understand it.
	Now, again, if you're a regular listener, that's you.
	And thank God that you are informed and you have this knowledge, you have this information, and that it's actionable.
	Because there are things that you can do to protect yourself from all of this.
	And we are all blessed to know each other in this because we're going to be the survivors.
	So number one, stop eating non-organic food, especially when this law goes into effect.
	You've got to stop eating non-organic food.
	And me too.
	You just have to completely stop it.
	Secondly, of course, we have to avoid the toxic jabs, which most of us already do anyway.
	We've got to avoid the toxic pharmaceuticals.
	We've got to avoid or protect ourselves from the chemtrails or whatever else they're exposing us to.
	And one good way to get rid of 5G out of your life is to move out of the city, which is something that hopefully you are considering anyway, or maybe you've already done it.
	But for every assault on our population, there's also a defensive strategy that can protect you from it.
	And those are the things that I teach.
	So get out of the cities, get off the processed food, grow some of your own food if you can.
	Buy real food from farmers markets, co-ops, CSAs, etc.
	Buy organic if you can afford to do so.
	Stack gold and silver, obviously, to protect yourself from a financial collapse.
	Make sure that you've got some level of iodine in case there's a radiological event.
	Make sure that you're ready for a power grid collapse.
	On and on and on.
	All these preparedness things that I talk about.
	These are true survival strategies to protect you from the deliberate extermination attempts.
	And the only area where we need to shore up a lot more, I think, in my own material, is we have to start talking about how to defend yourself against Terminator drones.
	You know, the airborne drones and the ground-based drones, because as those get rolled out over the next 10 years, they're going to be hunter-seeker Terminators.
	But they're not going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	They're going to be much smaller and camouflaged with thermal cameras.
	And we're going to have to have strategies for how to hide from those or destroy them or evade them, obviously.
	So we'll be talking about that in the coming years for the surviving human remnant.
	And look, there's also a silver lining in all of this.
	The highways in Los Angeles are not going to be jammed up.
	There's going to be parking everywhere.
	You might want to have a Geiger counter with you to check the fallout before you use parking lots, but there's going to be plenty of parking.
	There's going to be a lot of real estate available just for the squatting, basically, for the claiming.
	And I covered this in one of my books a few years ago.
	There will be an entirely new economy of salvage operations.
	So there'll be salvage teams that go into the homes and especially commercial buildings in these cities that have been bombed where the buildings haven't been destroyed, but everybody's been killed and the city's empty, but there's a lot of good copper in those walls, in the wiring.
	There's electrical infrastructure, there's aluminum wiring, there's appliances in people's homes, etc.
	There's still usable furniture.
	I mean, there's a lot of assets that are still going to survive the nuclear war and the extermination.
	And what you're going to see is you're going to see cities and counties auctioning off the right to salvage of a certain building in the same way that you currently have, I think there's even a TV show, it's like salvage something where they auction off the rights to salvage like a storage unit.
	Like, here's a storage unit and it's been abandoned and we have no idea what's in it.
	And, you know, people bid on it.
	I'll give you $200 for that storage unit or whatever.
	You're going to see this with houses and commercial buildings.
	And then you're going to have salvage teams that go in there.
	And some of these salvage teams will, of course, have accompanying robots.
	So you're going to have salvage robots that run in little like salvage drones with fingers and cable cutters and whatever.
	They start hauling copper out of buildings.
	Yeah, seriously.
	You're going to have like copper salvaging robots in the not too distant future, within 10 years, for sure.
	You may wonder what it's like to have my brain because I'm always seeing the future 10 years ahead, and it's so obvious to me.
	And then everybody is like, No, that's crazy.
	And then 10 years rolls around, and they're like, Oh, yeah, we all knew that.
	No, you didn't.
	No, it seemed crazy 10 years ago, but the way I see things, it all kind of lines up of where this is going.
	Now, it doesn't mean that it's absolutely perfect, obviously.
	And I do have a prediction on the books here right now that the United States of America, as we know it, will not be the same by the end of this year.
	That prediction may be off.
	I don't know.
	I guess we're going to find out.
	I hope it's off because I'm not hoping for the destruction of our country.
	But you can also see that events are being put into motion where that prediction could come true.
	But what I have seen in my mind's eye is the fall of the United States of America and the gutting of mega-U.S.
	cities, like ghost towns, smoking ruins of U.S. cities.
	That is coming to be.
	I just don't know exactly when.
	So where do you want to ride this out?
	Well, you want to be outside the cities.
	Obviously, you want to be in a rural area that's not a target zone.
	You want to have your own independent power sources, your own independent food as much as you can.
	Obviously, you want to stack gold and silver.
	That's critical.
	And, oh, our sponsor there, if you want to get some gold and silver, just go to metalswithmike.com.
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	But you want to be outside the cities, obviously.
	You know, check.
	You probably already are.
	Secondly, you want to stack some metals.
	And it's a good idea to add to that on a regular basis, whatever makes sense for you economically.
	But this is where the value is going to hold versus the collapsing currencies.
	And by the way, silver is down below.
	It's almost, it's in the low $37 range right now.
	And gold dropped a little bit.
	So it's actually a relatively good buying opportunity compared to the last few weeks.
	Just noteworthy.
	And I think gold and silver are going much higher in dollars because the dollar is collapsing, obviously.
	But you also want to have your own self-defense.
	You want firearms and ammunition.
	You are going to need a thermal scope.
	So save up for one of those if you don't already have that.
	You're going to need night vision or thermal.
	Maybe one of each, depending on the circumstances.
	You're going to need backup communications, satellite phone, bibby stick, backup bandwidth.
	You're going to need local radios, etc.
	Like, I'm not going through the whole list, but we talk about this all the time.
	You know what you need.
	First aid, medical supplies, colloidal silver, right?
	Chlorine dioxide.
	Definitely need to get chlorine dioxide.
	A thousand uses for emergency medicine and so much more and many other things.
	And then you also want to be able to grow a lot of your own medicine.
	And then finally, use our free AI engine, Enoch.
	It's at brightion.ai.
	You can ask it anything right now.
	It's free of charge.
	We've got now a peak of 10,000 people a day using the engine, completely free.
	No ads, non-commercial, totally free.
	Okay?
	And everybody loves it.
	Every once in a while it flips out and gives some weird answer, but that only happens like 10% of the time.
	The other 90%, it's great.
	But it does lose its mind about one out of 10 times.
	And then we're working on the standalone downloadable model.
	And I'm frustrated about that.
	I thought it was performing better.
	And then when we did the quantization, it lost some capabilities.
	And so now we're working on the quantization algorithm.
	It's like, oh, my God.
	It worked fine.
	It floated point 16.
	And then we quantize it down to eight bits.
	And it's like, oh, turn into a retard AI engine.
	So we're not going to release a retard AI engine.
	So we're going to get it right.
	And then we'll release it free of charge, download it.
	You can run it locally at that point on a GPU, etc.
	And then, I don't know if you, I don't even think I played this interview for you yet.
	I had Hakeem Anwar, the founder of Above Phone, I had him in studio.
	He was running our Neo AI engine on his phone locally.
	He loaded up the GGUF on the phone and it was getting good output on the phone because the phone has 16 gigs of RAM.
	And so what we're going to have actually, we're going to be handing our model over to abovephone.com.
	And if you want to get the de-googled phones there, it's abovephone.com slash ranger.
	We'll get you a discount.
	And as soon as we have our GGUF done, we're going to give it to them.
	They're going to put it on every phone they sell and every laptop they sell.
	So you're going to have our AI engine, Enoch, is going to be on their hardware free of charge when you open the box.
	It'll just work right out of the box.
	No internet needed, nothing.
	It'll just work locally.
	And it's got really great local voice recognition.
	So you can talk to it.
	Just talk to it locally.
	And it's got good voice recognition.
	Really cool stuff to help you get off grid and survive in a decentralized manner.
	I mean, so don't take this whole podcast as total doom and gloom.
	They can't kill all of us.
	And remember, the key is to be hard to kill.
	And the way to be hard to kill is to decentralize.
	Hence my show, Decentralized TV.
	You should watch some of the episodes there, you know.
	It's a kick-ass show.
	It teaches you a lot.
	But the people who are going to die are the people who depend on the centralized food supply, the centralized medical system, centralized vaccines, and centralized government, you know, all that.
	The centralized banking system and the dollar, which is going to collapse.
	Those are the people who are screwed, the people who believe in centralization, people who trust the government.
	It's like a death wish to trust the government, really.
	I mean, it's a suicide wish because we've now entered the phase of history where our government wants you dead for all the reasons I just previously mentioned.
	But you don't have to go along with that.
	You can simply decentralize.
	You can decide to live.
	You can decide to reject all of the government's nefarious plans to try to kill you off.
	And then at some point, you know, we'll talk about how to survive the robots.
	Which probably involves AR-15s or flamethrowers or pickup trucks.
	Something like that with stringing out cables, local EMP weapons.
	We'll figure it out.
	We'll just watch a bunch of science fiction movies and we'll try to mimic all their weapons.
	Like, how did they kill the robots?
	In Star Trek, they just asked it logic questions until smoke came out of its ears.
	Does not compute, you know?
	That's probably not going to work.
	We're going to need flamethrowers or something.
	Or how about this?
	Flamethrowing drones.
	Those are legal in most jurisdictions because they're used in agriculture for controlled burns.
	Yeah, I'll give you a controlled burn.
	Let's control a burn on that Terminator over there.
	How about that?
	Yeah, it's on fire.
	It doesn't look exactly controlled, but it's burning.
	Good job.
	Go find another one.
	Anyway, bottom line, folks, you are on the extermination list, but you do not have to comply.
	It really is that simple.
	And that's why I'm optimistic about the future, despite everything I just said.
	I'm optimistic about the future among those of us who know this information.
	I'm not that optimistic about the NPCs and the oblivious masses.
	I wouldn't bet on them.
	Not going to do that well.
	But for you and I, and I welcome anybody to get up to speed with this information, anybody who's got the cognition to grasp this, I welcome them to join the club of the human remnant.
	We are the survivors.
	We are the builders of the future civilization.
	We're going to be here.
	And so we're the only ones that matter.
	You realize that?
	The NPCs that are killed off don't matter because dead people don't have a vote in the next society.
	They don't participate unless they're voting in Democrat elections.
	But they generally don't participate and they can't be reanimated.
	So those of us who live through this, we build the future.
	And it's a good thing that we are the ones who are the most well-informed, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Lots of opportunities coming up for good people to create a, let's say, a more free society.
	How about that?
	We've got to figure out how to turn the robots onto our side, just like Terminator 2.
	We capture the Terminators, we mind wipe them, we flip them around, and then they protect humanity.
	So the future is going to have robots.
	We just got to figure out how to make them work for us, which is what I'm doing with Enoch AI, using AI technology for humanity.
	That's why you can ask it anything about survival skills.
	I forgot to tell you, I fed it like 5,000 gun manuals also.
	I did.
	It knows how to assemble and disassemble every firearm that you can possibly think of.
	And you can ask it questions about firearm repair.
	I never even mentioned that before.
	It's just one of my data sets that I fed into it.
	It's got all kinds of ham radio knowledge and all kinds of old army manuals for some reason.
	I found a big lot of PDFs of, I don't know, off-copyright survival military manuals.
	And so that's all in Enoch too, on top of everything else.
	So you can ask it just about anything.
	I mean, anything that's important.
	And it'll give you some good answers.
	It's not perfect, but it's like 90% of the way there.
	Anyway, check that out at brighteon.ai.
	And if you want to support us, shop at healthrangerstore.com, where our foods are not saturated with death poisons.
	Okay, that should be our new slogan.
	No death poisons in our food.
	Because we do the lab testing, obviously.
	So, you know, buying clean food is going to be a matter of life and death coming up here very soon.
	And then enjoy today's interview with Andy Sheckman, the CEO of Miles Franklin.
	And of course, this is an enthralling conversation about how the Trump administration is going to try to prevent the U.S. debt Ponzi scheme from totally imploding.
	And Andy thinks that Trump might succeed, and I think he won't.
	So that's the context for the conversation coming up here.
	That's why there's a little bit of give and take.
	It almost sounds like a debate sometimes, but it's not.
	I'm not arguing with Andy.
	I'm just saying, well, what about this?
	You know, it's a what about kind of conversation, and it's very interesting.
	So give it a listen, and then plan accordingly.
	Thank you for listening today.
	Welcome, everyone, to today's interview.
	I have an amazing guest for you, Andy Scheckman from Miles Franklin.
	He's the CEO of Miles Franklin.
	He's got a brand new show and channel on YouTube.
	He's got a brand new studio, a new co-host, etc.
	Now, I'm not on camera today, folks, because I'm not in my studio.
	But don't worry, Andy's studio makes up for both of us.
	Welcome, Andy.
	Thanks for joining me.
	I love your studio.
	Thank you, buddy.
	I appreciate it.
	It's wonderful to be here.
	Yeah, I do too.
	And it was one thing doing it out of my basement in Minnesota, and then we moved to Florida in my office.
	But, you know, three dogs and craziness going on around Me all the time and doorbells ringing.
	And it was just nice to, you know, step it up a little bit and build a studio.
	And we did.
	We hired Michelle McCourry to run our media division.
	And it's funny, we did our first video together.
	And I was reading some of the comments, and someone said, Michelle, great first video and great first guest.
	So I'm already, you know, I'm second, but that's okay.
	That's why I brought her on.
	She's fantastic.
	And we'll have to have you on or come on your show with her.
	And I think she won't disappoint.
	She's a wealth of knowledge.
	Yeah, that's worth pointing out.
	Michelle McCorrie, I mean, I've grown to respect her incredible depth of knowledge about financial markets, about crypto, about privacy, all these things.
	She is one of the most well-informed people in the whole industry.
	Totally.
	And, you know, I learned that when I did my first interview with her maybe five, four or five years ago, she knew everything about everything that I was talking about.
	And I was blown away by that.
	And she'll make comments to me like, if I'm going to have someone on who's just written a book, I will read their book before I have them on and know everything about them.
	And that makes a big difference when you're having a conversation because what she prides herself on is respectful pushback.
	So she'll say to me, listen, I agree with what you're saying.
	But for those that may not, what about this?
	And what about that?
	And makes you think and she keeps you on your toes.
	So we're excited to have her.
	I appreciate you bringing that up.
	And yeah, the new digs is great.
	And it's nice to be out of the house, really, and actually have a place to go to now.
	So that's good.
	It's good to be here more than anything, Mike.
	You're amongst the best in this entire industry.
	I try and follow everything you put out, although it's too much to follow because you put out a lot, but I try and catch almost everything.
	And you're doing a great job.
	And it's an honor to be here, as always.
	Well, I'm honored to have you on.
	And let me just back up for the audience here.
	I first became aware of your analysis several years ago.
	Maybe it was five, six years ago.
	I forgot exactly.
	But you were the very first person to be talking about BRICS and how BRICS was a legitimate threat to dollar dominance.
	And when you were saying this, Andy, initially, and I say this with respect, but you were laughed at, right?
	I mean, but then you have been proven so right again and again and again that now even Trump and his people are saying BRICS is essentially a threat.
	And in this tariff war and the sanction war that's underway, which we'll talk about in more detail, it's obvious.
	It's obvious that the BRICS nations are choosing BRICS, not choosing to capitulate to the dollar.
	Can you talk about that?
	A thousand percent they are.
	There's no question.
	And, you know, there are some things happening right now, Mike, and you might have to stop me along the way.
	I have a bad habit of rambling, but I think is bigger news than anything that I've covered to this point.
	You know, one of the pushbacks, Mike, about BRICS is that they're not big enough.
	That, yes, they're legitimate when you're talking two of the three largest nuclear arsenals and China and Russia.
	And, you know, they're big, right?
	And India, they're big.
	They're legitimate, but they can't compete with the West.
	I disagree with that.
	And so if we look at, for example, they had, when we last talked, probably, I'm thinking that it would have been, I don't remember when we last talked about the bridge, but BRICS, but they had something called BRICS-M-Bridge.
	And Embridge was a cross-border technology that allows them to trade with one another free from SWIFT interference.
	And it was developed between China, Hong Kong, Thailand, and the UAE.
	And Saudi Arabia became a fifth partner at the end, a fifth formal partner.
	And all of this was developed through the innovation hub of the BIS.
	And the BIS at the Bank of International Settlement, which is the biggest bank in the world, a Western bank.
	And I believe what they did amounted to espionage right out of a James Bond film where at the 12th hour, right before their big meeting in Russia, they pulled out and said, look, we can't be part of any technology that allows the Western sanctions to be escaped through this technology.
	In other words, they're saying countries that are sanctioned, we can't allow them to use this technology.
	It's as if they just realized for the very first time that Russia was the R in BRICS after four years of developing this with these countries.
	So everything's kind of gone dark.
	And if we look at what's happened to the past.
	I just want to be clear and add that it was designed to delay BRICS.
	And it did.
	It did delay.
	It did.
	It did.
	And so then about a month ago, we find that it's now called the Renimbi Cross-Border Payment System or the Bridge.
	I got some great stuff for you, Mike.
	So you won't even have to, you can interject all you want, but I can show you what I think is happening here.
	So the bridge technology has just been, they came out and said we have connected, that being China, 11 countries in Southeast Asia.
	They're called ASEAN Asian countries.
	Is there that unit, that Asian unit?
	These are the countries in Southeast Asia and five Middle Eastern countries.
	We've connected them to the new bridge technology and they represent 38% of global GDP currently.
	The technology is free from SWIFT interference and it's cross-border payment of local central bank digital currencies.
	So the Bank of China can trade Yuan to Saudi Arabia for oil and then Saudi Arabia.
	I'll tell you what they can do next.
	I'm going to stop right there for a moment.
	So anyways, this settles in seven seconds.
	Typically, it takes three to five days with the currency switches back and forth, three to five days to complete a transaction with SWIFT from border to border in other parts of the world.
	Seven seconds with a 98% reduction in fees and no SWIFT interference.
	So they got these countries signed up.
	And then, so something happened that I don't think I've heard anybody but me mention.
	And I've been screaming about this for the past month.
	And that is that in a meeting that Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, just had, he said something very interesting.
	He said the BRICS Technology, which is, or the new bridge technology, which is not compliant or not compatible with the dollar, the pound, or the Euro, okay, dollar, pound, euro, out.
	It's going to be opened to other countries of the world.
	And so he's opening up the technology to the rest of the world minus the pound, the dollar, and the euro.
	Now, immediately after realizing that this just came after the integration of the Asianic countries and the five Middle Eastern countries, I'm thinking, Belt Road, the Belt Road is what got me interested in all of this.
	Belt Road is 75% of human population, 50% of global GDP right now.
	And the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the Eurasian Economic Union, these are two organizations that in and of themselves represent about 65% of human population and north of 40% of global GDP.
	And the president of Belarus is saying these two organizations need to meld with bricks.
	If you stop right there and you look at the Belt Road, the SCO, the Eurasian Economic Union, and the 11 Asian countries and the five Middle Eastern countries, you're talking 90% of human population that will be able to use this system.
	Now, that in and of itself is cool.
	Let's connect some more dots.
	I'm sorry.
	Before we go there, I just want to make sure, even though my audience is very sophisticated, I just want to lay down the implications of this.
	It means that the U.S. would have no tariff leverage for one over any of these countries.
	Now, right now, just a couple of days ago, Trump said in 10 days, we're going to put secondary tariffs on any country that purchases energy from Russia.
	That includes China, that includes India, Turkey, even the EU, etc.
	Trump just announced pretty big new tariffs on India, which is, you know, hey, we're the United States.
	Let's punish all our allies.
	Right?
	So I think it's 25% on India.
	And China has already said, go pound sand.
	We're not going to stop buying energy from Russia.
	And then Russia just announced we are immune to Western sanctions.
	We don't care.
	We've already got workarounds.
	So, I mean, Andy, isn't the U.S. just losing its grip over being able to influence and dictate the terms to the world?
	Yes, and I think they're going to destroy the dollar purposely, which I will get to.
	But yes, they are.
	And that would be the opposite thing you'd want to do after the last four years of literal brain-dead foreign policy, irresponsible fiscal and monetary policy, to go around and to use the stick instead of the carrot.
	It's the wrong thing.
	Now, I would vote for Trump again.
	God bless him, because what he wants to do, I think needs to be done.
	And I'm going to try and connect all of the dots.
	You stop me at any point.
	This is about a 10-minute weaving through.
	And I think you'll say, I mean, I might go, oh, my goodness, could this really be what they're doing?
	But you say he wants to destroy the dollar, but that's to save the debt system.
	That's correct.
	That's exactly right.
	So, first of all, if we look at what I just mentioned about all of these countries having the ability to trade local currencies over this new bridge in seven seconds with the SWIFT not even knowing about it, it's not compatible.
	Well, that's pretty impressive.
	Now, at the same time, the Shanghai Gold Exchange comes out and says we are now going to, in an effort to help internationalize the yuan, we are going to open a network of multi-jurisdictional gold vaults, starting with Hong Kong,
	which is completed, the second one, which is under construction right now in Saudi Arabia, and then a series of vaults throughout the Belt Road Initiative and throughout Asia, Africa, and eventually South America.
	These vaults will be multi-jurisdictional.
	Think of us of Venezuela and trying to get their gold back from the Bank of England.
	No, we don't feel like giving it to you.
	Goodbye.
	The problem of having all of the gold in one jurisdiction, it gives too much power.
	So, all right, so China comes out and says, we have now immediately, as of today, made, and this is about a month ago, yuan convertible into gold immediately on the Shanghai Metals Exchange, deliverable if you want, in Hong Kong, soon to be Saudi Arabia, and then the rest of these exchanges.
	In other words, you don't have to take your digital yuan and convert it to dollars first to buy gold as you would have in the past.
	So now, Saudi Arabia will sell their oil to China for yuan that goes over the Ember, over the bridge technology in seven seconds, no swift interference, 98% reduction in fees.
	And if they wish, they can immediately either exchange it all for gold and leave it within the system, the vaulting system, or say, you know what, we'll stand for delivery.
	Pretty soon, it will be in Saudi Arabia.
	All of the Middle Eastern nations will have this same capability.
	You're seeing exchanges pop up in Moscow, in St. Petersburg.
	You're seeing them pop up in Singapore.
	You're seeing vaults that are being built.
	The BRICS new vault, they'll all be connected to this new skeletal system where we trade over the bridge technology in CBDC.
	We settle in balances in gold.
	The gold is not representing a new currency.
	It's representing the treasury bond.
	It's backing the currency because it is deliverable.
	Okay, hold on.
	So every time you say a big chunk like that, I'm going to need to restate it in a different way, if you don't mind.
	But please, mass decentralization of the physical ownership of gold, the vaults that are going to be in BRICS participant nations, inside those vaults, there will be allocated gold that is owned by the different BRICS members.
	And when there is a trade imbalance in oil or commodities or whatever, that trade imbalance can be settled by just shifting the ownership of the gold without moving the gold.
	Is that correct?
	It's correct.
	But the only caveat being they're going to do it through the belt road as well.
	So all of the belt road, 150-plus countries, they're not all going to have vaults, but there'll be a bunch throughout the system.
	These are all aligned with the bricks, But not part of it, which makes it even bigger.
	So, you got all of these countries that are being industrialized that will be able to move their goods from the ground to the market.
	They'll build roads and bridges and maritime channels.
	They'll build vaults.
	They'll build oil refineries and all of this stuff, they will sell it through the system over the bridge network, and they can be paid in other currencies or in gold for their rare earths or for their oil or for their copper.
	I mean, it just presents so many vast opportunities where the cash part of it, the settling is not in dollars anymore, it'd be in local currencies, and the reserve part of it's no longer in treasuries, but in commodities.
	Okay, but Andy, I'm sorry to interrupt, but tell me about what mechanism prevents any one player in this system from mass counterfeiting its own currency, you know, printing its own currency, and then using that to flood the system and acquire all the gold from the other participants.
	Because I would think that it, and again, that's a fair question, but I would think you would have to keep your monetary house in order in order to do trade.
	In other words, in order to do, if you are hyper-inflating your currency, it would rear its head pretty darn quick.
	And you would have to, no one would want to trade with you.
	No one would take your currency.
	There has to be, what this brings in is it brings in monetary restraint.
	That if I'm going to trade with you, you're going to have to keep your monetary house in order.
	And if I hold your currency, I have the right to sell it and buy, have to sell back to you, potentially, in order to get the funds to buy.
	And that's an agreement made.
	We'll always take our currency back.
	That was part of the Embridge theory.
	But I guess the point of it is, is it doesn't work if countries are destroying the value of the currency.
	No one will trade with them.
	They'll only want gold.
	They won't take the currency part of it.
	So I think in and of itself, it's kind of like eBay.
	When you buy an eBay, you have to pay quickly and you have to ship quickly at the other side.
	And if either one don't work, well, no one's going to trade with you.
	You get a bad review.
	Don't trade with them.
	They're bad.
	Their currency sucks.
	Don't do it.
	So anyways.
	But importantly, the current SWIFT system is dominated by the control of the United States, one country with one currency that is mass counterfeiting its currency and effectively ripping off the entire planet.
	And everyone.
	That's correct.
	And everyone kept their gold at the Bank of England and the New York Fed, two centralized locations.
	So you're right.
	All of that is true.
	All right.
	So now we get to a point where they say, well, we're going to, you know, this is what we're going to do.
	I believe that the BRICS, they had talked about the unit currency, which is the exact same thing.
	I believe they're waiting out Trump because of all the threats and tariffs.
	And instead, the Chinese are building the infrastructure.
	They're building the rails or the skeletal system, which are the multi-jurisdictional vaults.
	They already have an operational bridge system.
	They're signing on members.
	They signed on 38% of GDP already.
	They're introducing it to the Belt Road.
	I'm going to tell you something in a minute, which will validate that.
	And they're expanding it so that when, if in a year or two, they want to roll in, in place of the digital yuan and all these other digital currencies, the common settlement currency, not the common BRICS currency, but a common settlement currency, which the former president of Brazil,
	Delma Russoff, who is the head of the BRICS New Development Bank a year ago, said, we've agreed in principle to this new unit token, 60% BRICS plus currencies, 40% gold, deliverable of bond requests in a series of multi-jurisdictional vaults.
	This is the unit ecosystem that China is building out under the guise of internationalizing the yuan and internationalizing the reach of the Shanghai Metals Exchange.
	So in essence, they're building the rails by which the currencies will trade and the gold will settle.
	So, okay, all of that being the case, so that's all great.
	We find out it's going to be open to other currencies.
	So the other day, I'm watching a video, and let me give you the name of this guy.
	Watching a video just a couple of days ago, and it is, his name is Andre Mikhailishin.
	M-I-K-H-A-I-L-I-S-H-I-N.
	Mikhailishin.
	He is the chairman and founder of Bricks Pay.
	Now, I've talked a lot about Bricks Pay.
	Bricks Pay, think of it as B2B.
	Think of it as retail, B2B, customer to business, business to customer, small bank to small bank.
	Again, free from swift interference.
	He made a comment.
	He was very upfront saying, we're not trying to create a revolution.
	We'd love to be part of the dollar system, but they won't let us.
	We're sanctioned.
	And so, you know, this is not, we're opening it up to other countries, but the West, we can't, you know, coordinate with Visa and this and that because of it.
	So, you know, this will just be for BRICS countries and non-BRICS countries, just not the West.
	But he said some really, really, really, really interesting things that I want to mention to you.
	The first thing he said, he says, we're currently in meetings in China to develop BRICPAY technology throughout the Belt Road.
	75% of human population, 50% of global GDP.
	What are they doing with the BRICS bridge?
	Industrializing it through the Belt Road from central bank to central bank.
	This is one step below.
	He said, in the future, BRICS Pay and BRICS Bridge will be combined.
	Interesting.
	It's a retail, non-non, it's service open to non-BRICS countries, B2B or bank to bank, also for retail.
	But then he also said something else, just as an aside.
	He said, you know, this is an aside because I'm going to switch to the U.S. now and tell you what I think they're doing to combat this and where we're ultimately going with gold.
	But you can stop me at any point.
	He says, you know, the reason, Mike, that I left my company in Minneapolis, even though I moved to Florida, where I've had a satellite office for going on 20 years, my oldest friend in the world runs it in Del Rey.
	And I left my corporate office in Minnesota because it's the only state in America that regulates what is a federally non-regulated industry.
	We're held to a higher standard.
	Most of the industry won't sell into Minnesota because of the regulations.
	You have to be licensed, bonded, and background checked annually, including myself.
	And so I take all the classes, right?
	And I know all this stuff, but I've never heard what I'm about to tell you.
	And I've been on three or four shows and asked, do you know what this is?
	No one does.
	So no Googling.
	All right.
	here's what was asked of Andre.
	And the lady says, Andre, well, you're working with all of these countries, they're terrorists out there.
	How do you know that your funding or your rails of the BRICS pay system, think of it as like a Visa card almost, for all currencies?
	It's just seamless, that how do you know that it won't be funding terrorist operations?
	He says, well, you know, you're right.
	We are opening this up to other countries.
	And so we are very sensitive to compliance of other countries.
	And so our software is compliant with KYC and AML.
	Now, do you know what those two terms mean?
	KYC and AML?
	Know your customer and anti-money laundering.
	Correct.
	And that's what we're all aware of, right?
	And have you ever gone to a bank and they say, Mike, you're taking out $1,000.
	What do you plan on doing with that money?
	And you want to say, none of your darn business, but everyone's been saying that, right?
	He then goes on.
	Now, keep this in mind.
	He says, our software is compliant with KYC, AML, and KYT.
	And I stop it and I rewind it.
	I'm like, what did he just say?
	KYT.
	Now think of what they say to you.
	What are you going to do with that money, Mike?
	None of your business, Ms. Teller.
	KYT means know your transactions.
	He goes back and says it is KYT compliant as well.
	Know your transactions.
	So I believe, as an aside from all of this, that the banks have been told for a while now, ask them what they're going to do with it.
	If they volunteer it, write it down.
	If they push back, ignore it.
	If they say something that frightens you, fill out a suspicious activity report for them.
	Kind of gently moving into this direction.
	But when we talk about the benefits of ease of these stablecoins, which I'm going to get deep into in a moment, bear in mind, I would venture 100% that they have KYT technology in it.
	So not only will we be told this is much more convenient and quick, and instead of a check clearing in five days, this would be like Venmo clear just like that.
	But they're going to know who you are, where the money came from, and what you are buying.
	So if you want to go out and buy stuff that you don't want people to know about, whether it be firearms, which are legal, or precious metals, which are legal, or whatever it is you want to own that you want anonymity, and you might want to think about that as to where we are moving down the road and how fast the integration, you know, my podcast is little by little that I've been doing.
	Well, the little by little, just from five years ago, the concept of stable coins to where it is now.
	And I'm going to get into why we're here and why I think they're doing this and what's going to happen with gold.
	So, okay.
	Well, this, okay, yep, this is critical.
	And I wanted to go there with you anyway, because the Genius Act has passed.
	It has been signed into law.
	And it allows the government to authorize and surveil bank-issued stable coins as long as they are backed by purchases of U.S. treasuries.
	And Andy, you probably have heard me say that you're an idiot if you buy stable coins backed by debt in the dollar because the debt is only backed by the full faith and credit of a government that is bankrupt and morally bankrupt.
	No, it's unstable.
	It's mentally unstable coins is what they are.
	You'd have to be an idiot to buy them or hold them.
	Now, I can understand buying them and using them for a transaction and you get rid of them in 30 minutes.
	But if you're going to buy and hold something, it should be gold and silver or platinum.
	Right.
	And so many of the people who think they're leaving the legacy system are actually supporting it by buying the stable coins throughout the ecosystem.
	And, you know, so you're going to see American Express start to issue them, and you're going to see all of these other banks issue them for ease and transaction and speed and all of this stuff.
	And they will all be backed by treasuries.
	So here is why I think they're doing it.
	Obviously, we have $28 trillion in debt that comes due in three years, right?
	We take in $15 trillion in tax revenue in three years.
	That math doesn't work, but how about the $3 trillion in deficit spending each year at least?
	They just raised the debt ceiling to $5 trillion.
	So $3 trillion a year in deficit spending, that adds another $9 trillion.
	So that means 28 becomes 37, but you take in 15.
	So you're about a third of the way there.
	Where does the money come from?
	And when you look at countries like China and Saudi Arabia and Russia and India and Japan, they're all shedding treasuries.
	China has now gone to number three ahead or behind Great Britain, who's number two.
	So you have two massively indebted countries buying each other's debt.
	It's like two drunk guys leaning against each other so they don't fall down.
	It's the silliest thing ever.
	At the same time, you know, you look at like last year as an example, the difference between holding gold and a treasury.
	10-year treasury was up 4.5% last year.
	Gold was up 40%.
	This year, halfway through the year, the 10-year treasury is up 2.5%, half of 5% or 2.2%, half of 4.5%.
	But the dollar is down 11%.
	So you're net 8.5% down while gold's up 35%, which plus the net down 11%, you're up 55% in gold versus a 10-year treasury.
	Doesn't make much sense.
	You go back 25 years, it's doubled its performance.
	But Andy, I'm one of the few people who's actually done the math on this.
	And there's no way that they're going to be able to sell enough stable coins to people to cover any significant portion of the Treasury debt.
	See, but here's where I think I've put a spin on it for you, my man.
	And let me tell you my take on it.
	All right.
	So here's my spin.
	First of all, the Treasury, all of the stable coin debt or backing by Treasuries will go just to the front end of the curve, up to two years.
	That will be enough just for the front end, right?
	So you do your 90-day, your six-month, your one-year, your two-year treasuries will all be funded to keep the engine going on the front end.
	Now, the back end, this is the problem.
	If we owe $37 trillion in three years, but only take in $15 trillion, how do we do it?
	Well, we print.
	We're going to destroy the dollar.
	We'll continue to print.
	We'll continue to print.
	But when you do that, what happens to interest rates?
	You can't sell a 10-year treasury or a 30-year at 4% when your inflation is running 11 or 12.
	And, you know, CPI says 2.5% or 3%.
	John Williams of Shadowstat says add 8 to that.
	That's how they used to measure it prior to the Reagan administration.
	So you had 11% inflation.
	What if it really goes higher?
	You know, they lie about the CPI and all this stuff, but they're going to realize, look, they're printing, they're going to destroy the dollar.
	There's no way they can do this.
	So the rates have to be way higher in order to track demand to sell treasury debt, right?
	So you're right.
	It's not enough just for the stable coins.
	So what do they do?
	Luke Roman says they're going to anesthetize the 10-year Treasury and kind of make it irrelevant.
	Judy Shelton comes on my show six months ago, says they're going to peg gold to the treasury market, to the back end of it.
	Start with the 50-year in duration and then go to the 30, 20, and maybe 10.
	But here's where it gets interesting.
	So since November, we've imported that we know of north of $100 billion in gold and silver, that we know of.
	And I say that we know of because I believe the Treasury is behind a lot of this through the Exchange Stabilization Fund.
	Scott Besent, the self-proclaimed gold bug who said he wanted to monetize the balance sheet of the U.S. government asset base, which is only $5 trillion, $1.5 trillion nearly or 40 plus percent of it is student debt.
	The next biggest is military.
	Those won't be monetized.
	You could do some with national parks, I guess, which is three.
	But I believe he was talking about gold.
	And he did this in February.
	And I think someone said, Scott, shut up.
	What are you doing?
	You shouldn't be saying this yet.
	We're still importing it all.
	And we become net importers of gold for the first time ever.
	Massive, massive, hugest deliveries ever, month over, month over month, biggest delivery in gold ever on the May contract, $8.5 billion that we know of.
	And I say that we know of because by proxy bank like Citibank or JP or Goldman buying directly from other places around the globe like Singapore or Switzerland or wherever it may be, taking it in directly, not through Comex.
	My guess is they've been buying a lot more than this, but that's a guess.
	What we know of has been over $100 billion.
	And we don't know who it is.
	That's why I think it's the Treasury using the Exchange Stabilization Fund under the guise of national security.
	We can't tell anyone.
	Just like the Kennedy files, we can't know this stuff.
	So they're keeping it quiet.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	There's no question.
	This is not just some family fund or some hedge fund doing this.
	Right.
	So, all right.
	Now, on the balance sheet, U.S. Treasury holds 260 or 80 million ounces of gold that is valued at 42.22 an ounce.
	It's held in an account called the gold revaluation account.
	You can't make that up.
	When Roosevelt revalued gold in 33, he confiscated it, paid everyone $20,67 off a $20 face value coin.
	$0.67 when nickels are when eggs are a dozen for a nickel.
	It's a lot of money.
	And he devalued the dollar by 40%, making gold 35 bucks.
	Nixon did it when he closed the gold window in 71 at 35.
	He devalued the dollar next year by 7%, made gold 38%.
	Did it the next year to 42.22.
	In each case, the dollar gets devalued.
	And this plays into my thinking, but that's where it sits on the balance sheet today.
	If he marked it to market, and by the way, the Treasury Secretary would just tell the head of the Federal Reserve, mark it to market now, and bang, that's what it is.
	We'll pay whatever.
	We will pay the market price if people want to deliver their gold to the Treasury.
	But the gold we are holding right now, we are valuing it at the market price of 33, whatever, and that would add $800 billion to the Treasury.
	And the way that works is, in essence, the Treasury takes gold certificates and sells them to the Fed.
	The Fed creates the money out of thin air, which devalues the dollar, all the inflation, and buys, gives that to the Treasury, free and clear.
	The gold is held by the Fed, but they don't have claim on the gold, just the cash value of it.
	The gold belongs to the American people.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Let me stop you right there.
	Because this is one of the questions I have, because a lot of this looks like a gold swindle to me.
	It looks like an international banker.
	It's a gold swindle.
	But doesn't the Fed hold the claim to the gold at that point?
	Only the cash value of the gold, the fiat value, not the gold itself.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And that is the key to it.
	They do not hold claim to the gold.
	They hold it in custody as collateral.
	They do not hold claim to it, only the cash value of it.
	Okay, so wait, so basically then, this is the generation of more Treasury IOUs to the Fed.
	Yes.
	And it's a way to devalue the dollar and revalue gold.
	So if there are people out there, but who's been buying all the gold?
	The central banks, right?
	So they're not going to mind if gold gets revalued at all.
	But at least marking it to market has no impact.
	But what if they mark it much higher?
	Now, James Rickards, who's a pretty smart guy who's run simulated war games for the CIA, financial war games, he says 24,000 they're going to revalue it to.
	Others say 15,000.
	One is taking M1 and the other is taking M2 and dividing it into the gold stash that hasn't been audited.
	But he says at 24,000 an ounce, as crazy as that sounds, the Fed would give the Treasury $6 trillion free and clear.
	Now, that $6 trillion would massively devalue the dollar, which is what, because here's where I think I'm going to connect the dots for you.
	They want to devalue the dollar, right?
	You devalue the dollar, you get a bunch of inflation, and he gets on TV and says, we need to do this for our kids and our grandkids.
	We've messed up and there's no way that we can, well, let me connect the dots first and then I'll go there.
	So they devalue the dollar.
	The treasury gets $6 trillion.
	They can start paying down debt.
	Judy Shelton says they're going to issue, she said, Andy, July 4th, 2026 is a huge day for President Trump.
	Remember, for all of you who don't know by now, Judy was his Trump's Treasury, I mean, Fed nominee in 2016.
	She wasn't confirmed due to partisan policy, but she probably is in the running for this next Fed chair.
	Regardless, she said, he told me flat out, he told me, and she's been tweeting this again recently, that on July 4th, 2026, he will issue Treasuries redeemable in gold.
	Now, the front end is being controlled by the issuance of stable coins, keeping the engine running.
	The back end, the 10-year gets anesthetized.
	The back end, which would be the 50-year, the new one, 30 and 20, will be redeemable in gold.
	And guys like Luke Grohman says, I think they're going to let gold go to 7,000 or 8,000 and then revalue it to a higher number.
	Let's say they revalued it to 24,000 or whatever number it is.
	The reason that they would do this, and the reason I believe Judy is right, and the reason I think they're going to destroy the dollar, what does Trump want to do?
	He wants to bring back manufacturing.
	Manufacturing, if you run, if you're the world reserve currency, there's something called Triffin's dilemma.
	You'll always have trade imbalances, period.
	So tariffing these countries, really, you have to wonder, because these countries have accepted dollars and then put balances in excess in treasuries, we've had low asset prices.
	We've had low interest rates and I mean high asset prices, low price goods and low interest rates.
	It's been a benefit to this country.
	And if we push away from that, do we really want to do that?
	Now, you're going to have high interest rates, high price goods, and low price assets in a higher interest rate environment.
	So the point of it is that being the World Reserve currency, Triffin's dilemma says the world cannot get enough dollars for all of the trade they need to do just through our trading alone.
	So they have to sell their currency to buy our currency, which means ours goes up, theirs goes down.
	This is why we send them our manufacturing.
	It hollows out your manufacturing because you can send it all to Taiwan and to Hong Kong and to China and to Vietnam.
	By the way, Vietnam just joined the BRICS and they'll manufacture it for pennies on the dollar.
	This is why you have a trade imbalance.
	So in any case, that's, you know, how do you continue to get, how do you bring back your manufacturing?
	Well, the first thing you need to do is have a massively devalued dollar, which helps in selling your product to the world.
	That's what Trump just said.
	He just came out and said, in fact, you're going to like how I connect this, Mike, I promise.
	He just came out and he said, what did he say?
	He said, which kind of confirms all of this.
	He said, strong dollar.
	He says, Trump said today, he liked a strong dollar, but you make a hell of a lot more money with the weaker one.
	So when we have a strong dollar, one thing happens.
	It sounds good, but you don't do any tourism.
	You can't sell tractors.
	You can't sell trucks.
	You can't sell anything.
	He said manufacturers would be the first to benefit from a falling dollar.
	Japan and China fought for weaker currencies for decades and were able to dominate markets over the years.
	Now, it doesn't sound good, but you make a hell of a lot more money with the weaker dollar.
	So the dollar gets weakened.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Yes.
	No, Andy, sorry.
	I've got a stack of questions.
	Before you continue, I've got to throw these at you.
	So number one, Donald Trump has always accused China of currency manipulation for striving to achieve a joint.
	Right.
	So that's what Trump is doing now is admitted a currency manipulation.
	Second point is I don't believe that you can reindustrialize America for several reasons.
	But one of these important reasons is that the entire Eastern power grid, the JPL power grid, is already maxed out.
	They've announced they can't have any more data centers and that if you build anything that requires a lot of electricity, you have to build your own power plant.
	And you've got big tech companies actually contracting with nuclear power companies to build nuke plants.
	The problem is, and I looked into this in great detail, and Trump announced 10 AP1000 Westinghouse nuclear power plants, right?
	And I'm going to pull a Michelle McCorrie on you here with the pushback question.
	Those nuclear power plants take 19 to 20 years to permit and build.
	So sometime in the year 2044, we might have enough power to begin reindustrializing sectors of our economy.
	Would it take that long if your administration greenlighted the permitting?
	The permitting, you could save about four years off of that if you fast-track the permitting.
	But you can't make the construction go any more quickly for a number of reasons.
	And furthermore, Andy, the uranium that we get for our nuclear power plants comes from where?
	Russia.
	We are buying uranium from Russia while tariffing all the countries that buy energy from Russia.
	But then we depend on Russia for our energy for the nuke plants that will only exist 15 years, 20 years in the future.
	So this plan to reindustrialize America seems to me like it's a fantasy.
	Well, it may have challenges, and I'm not discounting that.
	But I do think it's one that is a worthy fight.
	And maybe he has plans for that.
	Maybe it's going back to coal and opening up the shale and the Bakken and all.
	Who knows?
	And to your point, maybe they'll start digging here again in the mothballed uranium mines here in the United States, which haven't been permitted, and they mothballed and reopened it all.
	Let's be a smart thing to do.
	Well, you have to.
	I mean, you would have to.
	But the only way that you can even begin to do that would be to have a much weaker dollar and low interest rates.
	How do you get to low interest rates?
	Because they're going to see that we have to print in order to pay just the $28 trillion in debt that comes due.
	So you got the stable coins greasing the wheels on the short end.
	You peg gold to the long end, redeemability in gold, and now you have zero borrowing costs.
	You have a zero coupon bond that is redeemable in gold instead of a high level of interest rate to compensate for the inflation.
	Okay, but Andy, this is one of the questions I was asking you in a voice message.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	I apologize.
	No, that's okay.
	But if I'm Saudi Arabia, and why would I buy a 50-year bond from the Treasury redeemable in gold if I could just buy gold?
	Some nations won't.
	Many other nations will.
	I mean, I think that's what they think.
	They're hoping that the redeemability in gold will be enough to reinstill confidence.
	Some nations won't.
	You're right.
	You could argue we're so far down the path that many nations won't, and they'll just buy gold.
	The reason that they would say others will is because of the rails of the treasury system because it's so liquid that it enables things to, you know, the whole reason people invest in treasuries now is because it's the most liquid and deepest market on the planet.
	So when you talk about the plans that they're making, that could very well thwart it.
	That's why it has to happen sooner than later, in my opinion.
	Okay, I agree with you.
	Treasuries are the most liquid debt instrument on the planet, but gold being, as you have often said, recognized as a tier one asset and now being recognized by all the BRICS participants with the distributed vaults and so on, seems to me like gold is universally liquid and not subject to sanctions.
	So again, I'm some other country out there.
	Why would I buy treasuries instead of just buying gold if the treasuries don't really pay me any earnings on the gold and I have to wait 50 years to get the gold?
	Well, and I have to trust the U.S. She said that they would issue shorter denominated bonds after the 50, shorter duration.
	But I mean, think about it.
	I mean, the hubris that the United States has, Mike, I mean, Trump says this stuff right now.
	We're going to tariff you and watch out.
	And I mean, it's getting to the point where what you're talking about will happen.
	But if we don't change it, I believe this is his plan to change that mentality, that they don't want to be the World Reserve currency anymore, that they look at it as a penalty rather than a benefit at this stage of the game.
	That's why they're tariffing all of our allies.
	Because I think they want to push back against it.
	But in order to continue, I think that they would still, because you don't have to trust us any longer.
	And if we continue to destroy our dollar, the coupon being redeemability in gold will just make the value of that bond go higher and higher and higher.
	And you can trade it freely, just like any tradable security.
	But the only reason that I think that they would even think this way is that they got the stable coins keeping the engine running, and then they put a zero coupon bond on the long end and maybe ultimately go down to 10 year, redeemable in gold at a way higher level.
	That zero coupon allows you and the devalued dollar to actually think of bringing back your manufacturing, reindustrializing and selling your products to the globe at a much lower price because the dollar is massively devalued and the debt in order to build all this stuff is at a zero coupon, albeit redeemable in gold, at a much, much higher price.
	It enables you, in essence, to continue the game and maybe grow your way out of this problem.
	Because when you have the amount of debt that we have and the inflation that will ensue with it, the only way out, as Richard Russell used to say, is to inflate or default.
	I think they've chosen option three, a soft default on the dollar in order to attempt to reinstill confidence in a treasury market that will allow them to bring back manufacturing.
	I get what you're saying about the energy.
	That's a valid point.
	But maybe they're thinking they have ways around that.
	That's an angle I'm going to have to look at.
	But they think, hey, we can bring it back at zero borrowing costs in a devalued dollar, which will spur demand for U.S. exports right away.
	And that we can do this without interest rates back into the treasury going high enough to blow up the entire system.
	So I will tell you, because I've looked into this a lot too, that one possible solution is what's called the SMRs, the small modular reactors.
	The thing is that technology has been kept under wraps mostly to power military bases and so on.
	They don't want the civilian sector to have access to that technology.
	Even though the fuel for it lasts eight years.
	So you only have to swap out your fuel rods every eight years, and it can power neighborhoods.
	It could power a data center and so on.
	I think Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors have that tech.
	But I don't know if they're going to let that loose because of the risk of terrorists stealing fuel and making dirty bombs and things like that.
	But let me ask you a different question before you continue.
	And this is a brilliant analysis you have here.
	It's apparent to me that if this happens, especially the gold revaluation, then the middle class is gone.
	You're going to have mass poverty of those who don't own gold.
	And then those who do own gold will be incredibly wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.
	Is that your assessment as well?
	Yeah, maybe that even goes along with universal basic income for a while.
	I mean, look, I think we've messed up so bad the opportunity of being the World Reserve currency.
	You know, even as going back to right before 2000, in the late 90s, we had a surplus and we were revered and we were trusted and people wanted to own our debt and we weren't fostering wars and paying for wars all around the world and involved in wars everywhere and we weren't seeing the idiocy between the left and the right and the divisiveness and the lawlessness and the election interference and all the stuff that we've had to go through and the order problems and all of this stuff.
	I don't know of another way.
	Look, short of this happening, we're going to get to a point, to your point, where why would I even want to hold treasuries, period?
	And there is no way that stable coins in and of themselves can fund, and I agree, there's no way they can fund the whole thing.
	The question becomes, how do you sell your debt to bring back manufacturing if that's what you, you mean, look, we can't leave all of our pharmaceuticals and our microchips and our military components and our aircraft, everything that we need, we can't leave it over there anymore.
	It has to come back.
	How do you do it without rates going to the moon and blowing up the entire system and just resetting?
	Well, that is always an option.
	And that is the great reset, the Operation Sandman, that you were the first one.
	And I always give you credit, always.
	Mike Adams, smartest guy ever, told me Operation Sandman, I always say, well, maybe that's what it is.
	Maybe they're tariffing our friends and saying, you know what?
	Either this works or it all blows up and it's on them.
	They're the ones who dump the dollars in the treasuries.
	We can blame it on them and reset the system.
	We have a villain.
	But otherwise, this is the only option you can ever think of to keep rates low on the back end of the market while greasing the front end with the stable coins and have any shot at a low interest rate and a devalued dollar to bring back manufacturing to spur demand, lose the reserve status, but still be the rails of the global financial system with gold-backed treasuries ultimately.
	I don't see another way.
	maybe you do.
	Let's, you and I do some of the math on this together.
	So, by my estimates, you know, the entire crypto market's only about $3 trillion globally.
	If Trump is able to convince enough suckers to buy $1 trillion of stable coins backed by treasuries, that's a big success.
	So I'm going to say $1 trillion in stable coins.
	Okay.
	Then you said with the gold revaluation, let's say it's $24,000 per ounce.
	That frees up, or that creates about $6 trillion, you said, correct?
	So it's about $1 trillion per $4,000 valuation of gold.
	Is that the right ratio?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	All right.
	So that gives us about $7 trillion.
	And then countries buying the, let's say, the longer term 10 and up to 50 year bonds redeemable in gold.
	It seems to me like Trump would have to find buyers or Besent or whoever would have to find about $20 trillion of buyers of the medium along the way.
	Judy did say that it would be her belief that the market would issue stablecoins off of the gold-backed treasuries as well.
	Again, buying more treasuries.
	So, I mean, the whole thing, it's a Ponzi scheme.
	There's no question about it.
	But the idea is through massively devaluing the dollar as well to pay off the debt with inflated dollars.
	And you're right.
	It's going to kill the lower and middle class people.
	No question about it.
	But what other way can you do it?
	We're so far, you know, we're at 125% of debt to GDP at the 37 trillion, but that doesn't take into account the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security alone.
	That's almost 200 trillion combined.
	And so there's never been a country to cross 130 without defaulting or hyperinflating.
	And Japan is there, and I guess the jury is still out what they're going to end up doing.
	But I can simply tell you that we're way over 200% with when you add in the unfunded liabilities.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Trillion seconds ago was 31,688 years ago.
	What are our options?
	Either we blow up and reset the whole system and blame them for doing it.
	And maybe the tariffs and the prodding and the, you know, you do this or else, those aren't tariffs.
	Those are sanctions.
	Maybe that's recent it.
	But Trump is very clearly working to maintain dollar hegemony.
	He said so recently that he's not going to let the BRICS nations become the world currency.
	And there's a quote from Trump.
	I'm sure you've heard it, where he says, losing dollar dominance is like losing a major world war.
	And he's also threatened an extra 10% tariff on all BRICS participants, which doesn't seem to stop any of them, by the way.
	Well, maybe he's saying all of that stuff.
	Think the art of war, the art of misdirection.
	He's saying that stuff to incentivize all of these countries to join together.
	And the tariffs, those aren't tariffs.
	They're sanctions.
	Tariffs are used to support your manufacturing.
	And they're not talking about a common currency, not for a long time.
	They're talking a common settlement currency.
	And that's why, you know, if you even take a step back and let's say they don't even use the unit, they just use local CBDCs, make sure that all of their monetary systems are kept in check and settling in balances in gold, free from swift interference.
	It gives them the immunity from that.
	At some point, they roll in their common settlement currency, that being the unit, which would make the ecosystem a little tighter.
	But here again, these rails are being opened up to the non-BRICS nations.
	That's the part he's missing.
	The non-BRICS nations, you're talking the Belt Road and all of the other countries united with the BRICS.
	And if all of this business is done through non-SWIFT channels, how will the SWIFT even know or the U.S. even know what's being done?
	Settled in gold and trading in a manner that isn't SWIFT compatible or Euro compatible or pound compatible.
	So the point of it is, is that, yes, if we were just looking at the BRICS, it's a little bit more myopic.
	But if you're talking opening it up to all of these other nations and you too can trade with us and settle in gold outside the Swift in seven seconds, how much of that will start to grow?
	And then what if they wait Trump out?
	And God forbid we have a re-emergence of the previous administration in a different outfit and they go back to doing the same stupid things or those kinds of things.
	And then boom, they just jump in and issue the unit and do all of these things.
	The rails will already be built.
	All I'm simply saying is this.
	I don't know how this all plays out, but I see all of these things that are linear in progression, the massive influx of metals, all of the talk from Besant to Judy Shelton to Trump saying on Easter Sunday, he who has the gold makes the rules.
	Well, where did that come from?
	I look at all of these pieces and what the BRICS are doing and opening up to the non-BRICS nations and the BRICS pay opening up to the Belt Road along with the BRICS Bridge.
	At some point, these things connect.
	And when they do, it's too strong to break apart.
	I think your analysis is spot on, Andy.
	And I have to thank you for being the very first to even bring this to my attention.
	I think most of what I've learned about BRICS was from listening to you.
	And my only contention here is that I think this effort by Trump will not succeed.
	I mean, it's going to be a good try.
	You know, you're going to get partway there, a few trillion here, a few trillion there.
	But I think we're too deep in debt.
	And I think my guess is that when the BRICS settlement system is well functioning, then you're going to see nations just absolutely abandoning U.S. debt and showing no interest in it.
	And I want to mention this too, Andy.
	The United States of America has lost its moral high ground.
	I just interviewed Congressman Dennis Kucinich about this a couple of days ago.
	And when you lose the moral high ground, then you lose the faith of the countries in trusting that America will always do the right thing.
	And we've lost the moral high ground by doing things like funding bombs that are killing children in the Middle East.
	And also, we've lost the moral high ground by being part of this effort to seize $300 billion from Russia in Western European banks, which is just outright highway robbery, looting of Russia's money.
	When you do those two things, you break the faith that once existed in your system.
	post-World War II, America could do no wrong.
	We were the heroes of the world in the eyes of everybody.
	We would always do the right thing.
	We would oppose, you know, war crimes and genocide in Africa and machete slaughters happening between tribes.
	We would oppose that.
	Those days are over.
	And now people look at America from outside the country and they're disgusted by what America has become.
	So I don't think faith is easily restored in this.
	You know something, Mike?
	I totally agree with you, man.
	I really do.
	And I'm not just saying that.
	I've spent the last five years saying this stuff and everything was, we're in trouble and we're screwing up and our actions are too stupid to be stupid.
	And then Trump came on board and there was so much enthusiasm.
	Even though I don't agree with everything he does, I'm thank God he's here.
	And I'm trying to find a shred of positivity and hope in a message that's been anti-positive for a long time.
	And I turned off a lot of people probably.
	So I'm saying, okay, fine.
	Let's take Trump at his face value.
	He wants to do this stuff.
	I got three kids and my youngest is 18.
	And I'm thinking, you know, I'm sad for the entire Biden administration.
	I would cry inside and thinking, I can only imagine how tough it is for my kids to make their mark in life in this environment, in this administration, in this way of thinking where meritocracy is thrown out the window for lifestyle and all of this nonsense, this wokeism and all of this hard work that I excelled at by outworking people, whether it be in athletics or in business.
	It doesn't matter.
	What do you like to do behind the scenes?
	That's all that matters.
	It drove me nuts.
	So I figured, okay, I'm going to take them at face value.
	If we don't bring manufacturing back, we're dead.
	If we don't address the debt system, we're dead.
	And so I'm thinking maybe, just maybe with all this talk about reshoring gold and seeing it with my own eyes and revaluing gold and backing treasuries and an administration that might just know where we are and we're in trouble and might just take unconventional steps, I'm hoping.
	And maybe hopism is foolishness.
	But I agree with everything you've said.
	And I guess I wouldn't be, if we're on a roulette table, I mean, I might put it red, black, 50-50.
	Maybe it's not even that much.
	But I do think I give him credit for, I'm hoping that this is what he's trying to do.
	Because short of that, Mike, I don't see, to your point, any way that we don't lose everything that we've grown accustomed to by losing the World Reserve status, by having it massively dumped, by seeing that Operation Sandman moment.
	And if Operation Sandman happened, just like I said to you four or five years ago in that first interview, and I said it where we're trying, I said the actions of the Biden administration is too stupid to be stupid.
	They are forcing the world to dump dollars in treasuries with their actions, their mismanagement of the reserve currency, their monetary and fiscal stupidity, their wokeism, the open borders, the election, everything.
	They're trying to do this.
	And if it happens, that rush of dumping is a tsunami of inflation that hits our shores.
	Interest rates spike to the moon to compensate for the hyperinflation.
	Stocks, bonds, real estate, the banks that hold everyone's money and the insurance companies that hold everyone's life, bang, are gone.
	Just like that.
	And they did it to us.
	I mean, that's the only other way I see out.
	And Richard Russell used to say, hyperinflate or default.
	There is no other way.
	Number three was to find a villain.
	Number four here is a soft default on the dollar in an effort to keep the game going.
	I guess we'll see where it ultimately falls.
	But this is why I love talking to you.
	There are very few people who are as bright and educated on this stuff as you because I'm trying for once to be, instead of being someone who talks about the pitfalls of where we are, a shred of optimism.
	Because a lot of people really do believe President Trump's motivation is pure.
	And I get a lot of people saying, you know, I wish you would just focus on a little bit of optimism.
	So I'm trying to find it, but I don't know that, I mean, if this is what he's trying to do, it has a shred of possibility of working.
	Okay, and the more uphill battle than I think.
	I am very optimistic about stacking gold.
	So my optimism comes from memory.
	If you were going to put something in a time capsule that's opened up in 10 years and it says, 10 years from today, what does the United States look like?
	What does your time capsule say?
	I think there is no United States.
	In 10 years, I don't think we have a United States of America.
	I don't think we have a functioning system as it currently exists.
	And sorry, I have a little bandwidth glitch here right now.
	And we're about to wrap this up anyway.
	And I really appreciate your time here today, Andy.
	But I just want to say that where you and I urge people to consider is the fact that gold and silver are your life raft through any of this.
	Whether you listening, whether you agree or disagree with our assessments or Trump's plan or Bescent or anything, it's very clear that gold and silver are your life raft through all of this.
	Because, Andy, as you say, if Trump is willing to sacrifice the dollar in order to save the debt market, that means he's willing to sacrifice the savings, the dollar savings of most Americans, most middle-class Americans.
	That's where their savings are kept, is in dollars.
	Whereas it's the wealthy that are involved in the debt market.
	It's the large players typically.
	So this is bailing out the rich by sacrificing the middle class and the poor.
	And the only way to Not be made poor is to have metals, in my opinion.
	And I'm serious about that.
	And Andy, that's why I'm so grateful to have you on.
	Can you tell us about milesfranklin.com?
	Because you offer gold and silver solutions for people connect.
	We do.
	And so we publish a semi-weekly price sheet that if you send us an email at info at milesfranklin.com and request it, the prices in and of themselves should be as good or better than anywhere in America, much better than the prices on our website.
	And we do it for a myriad of reasons.
	I don't want to go through the 50 reasons why I don't post the prices.
	We allow small purchases on the website.
	You want the special prices, no matter how much you want to buy.
	Send us an email.
	Say you heard me on this show.
	And I always, it's important to say Mike and I have respect for one another.
	I don't pay him anything, although if he were ever taking sponsors, I would, but I don't.
	He's never asked me to do that.
	This is about information.
	But I like to know where it's coming from.
	It's very important to me.
	Say you saw us on the Mike Adams show.
	Request our price sheet.
	Any questions you have and anything you've heard here, or even as far as precious metals, IRAs, or anything, info I-N-F-O-MilesFranklin.com.
	Now, if you get our price sheet, which isn't updated every day, and you find stuff cheaper elsewhere, let us know.
	More often than not, we are able to offer the best prices in America.
	Sometimes we can't.
	Most of the times we can.
	We've never had a customer complaint in 35 years and north of 12 billion in sales.
	And we are in the only state in America, my corporate entity in Minnesota, that requires licensing, bonding, and background checks.
	So not only am I confident we have the best reputation in the industry, without ever having a complaint, one of 27 U.S. Mint authorized resellers, we're licensed and we're bonded.
	And knowing that it came from Mike Adams' show, I promise you you will be given white glove service and an attempt to give you the best prices in North America right from there.
	And Andy, thank you for that.
	Let me repeat.
	The email address is info at milesfranklin.com.
	Just request the price sheet, the special VIP price sheet.
	And Andy, I want to say to people, silver has gone up tremendously this year.
	So has gold.
	It's never, in my opinion, it's never too late to buy gold and silver.
	And as proof of that, I bought a bunch of silver at $30 spot a few months ago.
	And I also bought silver this morning at 38, whatever it is right now.
	See, I'm not sitting here saying, oh, it's too high.
	I can't buy anymore.
	No, I am constantly stacking and vaulting metals because I know that's the only way to survive this.
	And obviously, that's my opinion.
	But I feel the same way too.
	Mike, there are very few assets in the world that are being accumulated by the most sophisticated, well-informed, wealthiest traders on the planet, the central banks and whoever's draining the exchanges.
	At the same time, you know, when you look at it in terms of dollar-inflated or inflation-adjusted prices, we're so far below where we should be.
	And the market's been suppressed for a long time.
	And you can look at the strain we're seeing on the LBMA and the COMEX, massive strain where lease rates for one month in silver up to 8% and platinum, 30%.
	I've never seen those ever.
	That's incredible.
	And the exchange for physical, or excuse me, the delivery delay out of London is supposed to be T plus one.
	T is the trade day plus one to settle.
	The bar should be moving to you after the third day.
	They're at eight weeks now because the Bank of England says we have a shortage of manpower and trucks.
	One last point on silver, and I'll wrap this up.
	The LBMA right now has 155 million ounce float.
	That's what's available backing the contracts.
	It's the smallest amount of silver they've ever had since they kept records.
	It's 140-year exchange.
	And that 155 million ounces is less than one day's trading.
	They trade about 190 million ounces every day.
	However, they admit, and there was a survey done by all the bullion banks that worked with them a few years ago, where they said that the settlement numbers, the final settlement numbers are one-tenth the amount of trades during the day.
	They only post the final numbers, which would mean if you're trading 190 million ounces settlement, but you trade 10 times more than that throughout the day, that's 1.9 billion ounces of silver trading against 155 million.
	That's three and a half times the annual global mine supply, almost 15 times the float.
	You wonder why they're at T plus eight weeks in platinum right now?
	I'm going to read you one.
	I don't even know if I can do it.
	Can I put my glasses on?
	If I have one, if I can find it.
	If not, I'll forget it.
	I'm sorry.
	While you look for that, Andy, look.
	I got it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Here's the one thing I'm going to read, and then I'm done, and I'll take any questions and say goodbye.
	This is from a man named, here it is right here.
	This is a man's name is Bruce Ike Mizu, I-K-E-M-I-Z-U, formerly head of Chinese bank ICBC's Tokyo Precious Metals Desk, and now head of the Japan Bullion Market Association.
	It's like the COLMEX in Japan.
	He says the market may already be broken.
	He says London appears to have virtually no physical platinum available for delivery.
	It seems that there really is no platinum in loco, meaning location, London or Zurich.
	Yet they continue trading nearly 3 million ounces per day of London promissory note cash contracts for immediate platinum ownership and delivery.
	Something is about to break.
	He says paying a 30% interest to borrow the metal makes it reasonable to consider just buying it outright.
	He says, I cannot recall a time when lease rates rose this sharply.
	He says behind the banks are the actual users who borrow from them.
	The mining companies, the recyclers, the jewelry manufacturers, and the industrial users.
	Here at the last piece right here, the revelation of the frailty of the London platinum paper market can knock off on other London metals such as silver that are also traded as levered cash contract promissory notes, thus lifting the veil on the one of the biggest market frauds in history.
	And as a side note, silver is now seeing a concurrent surge in its one-month lease rate to a 7% to 7%.
	I've never seen it 7%.
	For a one-month lease rate, you pay 7% to cover a contract if you're naked.
	It's just this is showing the ends of the system.
	Yeah, it's clear.
	silver is going to go into a delivery default.
	That's what he's more or less getting at.
	Yes, that's right.
	Platinum two, real close to it.
	Well, and I wanted to add this just to underscore what you're saying.
	So remember that Trump and the tech giants announced a trillion-dollar investment in data centers in Texas.
	And there are other announcements involving other countries, including Japan, for massive data centers in other states like Arizona.
	Well, every one of these data centers relies extremely heavily on silver.
	Silver is used in the components, in the connectors, in the electronics, and, of course, also copper, which Trump just slapped another 50% tariff on.
	Andy, just to prove to you how much, look, half the secret to my success is that I build for the future.
	We started construction earlier this year in January, I believe, on our new laboratory that also doubles as a data center and our new studio building, which is massive when it opens up.
	I'll invite you out.
	You'll love it.
	Well, my team was saying, well, how much electricity do you want to put in this lab building?
	And I said, we want 800 amps.
	800 amps.
	What are you powering a whole like condo complex?
	I'm like, nope, I want the infrastructure.
	I want the copper, the aluminum.
	I want the circuit breakers.
	I should send you a picture, Andy.
	This thing is outfitted like it's powering hospitals or something.
	And I said, because I know all of this stuff is going to double and triple in price.
	And I want it in the ground right now where the only way somebody can take it from me is with a backhoe.
	And that's what we did, Andy.
	We spent a fortune.
	We built infrastructure that I can plug in a data center or mass spec laboratory equipment or a robot testing facility or whatever.
	And there's no way I could afford it now.
	Just even now, less than six months later, I couldn't buy that stuff and you can't get the components because of the trade wars.
	So, Andy, my point is these data centers are going to require so much silver that the default of silver delivery is going to be even more exacerbated when they try to build the data centers.
	Maybe that's who's bringing back all the silver.
	We've seen record deliveries in silver every month, too.
	So, you know, maybe it's the industrials who's saying, if we don't do this or whoever is going behind Trump saying this is what needs to be done now, maybe that's why we're seeing all this stuff being brought back.
	Let's just try and find a sliver of hope.
	Because the one thing about silver is this, it's called inelastic, meaning if there's, you know, 12, 15 bucks of silver in this, well, if silver goes to 300 and that turns to $100 of silver in this or $80 of silver or whatever, who cares?
	The phone is still a $1,500 phone.
	Big deal.
	So yes, it goes up.
	It costs more, but you need it to make it work.
	And it's in such small amounts.
	Let's just hope that maybe they realize that they need it.
	And that's why you're seeing on the May contract, it was the second largest silver delivery in the history of the Comex.
	Who's standing for it?
	Where is it all going?
	Most of it's leaving the exchange.
	Really?
	Well, if it's leaving, well, where is it going to?
	Defense manufacturers and AI data centers.
	And by the way, I'm now remembering my 800 amps.
	That's not even right.
	I think that was our starting point.
	We went even bigger than that.
	I think we went 1600, and that's at 240 volts too.
	So anyway, the bottom line is.
	Love to have you as a guest.
	I had Bill in the studio last week.
	That was a great time.
	I know you got to run, but I just want to say to everybody listening, in my opinion, if you don't own gold and silver, you will be impoverished.
	I mean, that's, or unless you own like a copper mine or oil wells or something based on commodities, right?
	But if you hold dollars, I think you're going to be wiped out.
	Now, do your own research.
	I'm not your investment advisor, obviously, but I say really look seriously into gold and silver.
	Email Andy Schackman, info at milesfranklin.com.
	Get a price list.
	I don't earn anything off of that.
	This is not a paid endorsement or anything.
	This is just a conversation among two people who are trying to figure it out.
	So thank you, Andy.
	Mike, you're the best, brother.
	And I'm always psyched to come on.
	And we're going to have you on.
	And I look forward to picking up where we left off.
	But God bless you and your family and everyone listening.
	Thanks for having me.
	And I can't wait to do it again.
	And until then, please, please, please stay well.
	Okay.
	You too, Andy.
	Thank you so much.
	Stay connected for just a minute.
	And thank all of you for watching.
	I'm sorry I couldn't be on camera today, but Andy made up for both of us.
	And I got to thank Andy for his time and analysis.
	You can find more of our interviews at brighteon.com.
	And thank you for listening.
	Take care.
	They told you it was science.
	They told you it was progress.
	But behind closed doors, the scalpel was a weapon.
	The syringe, a poison Trojan horse.
	And the test subjects expendable.
	1845.
	Alabama.
	J. Marion Sims, the so-called father of gynecology, straps down enslaved black women.
	No anesthesia, no consent.
	30 operations.
	30 screams muted by history.
	His journals admit it.
	Lucy nearly died today, but we must proceed.
	The U.S. medical establishment funded his butchery, then enshrined him as a hero.
	Then came Tuskegee, 1932.
	The public health service, alongside the CDC, lured 600 black men with free treatment.
	400 already had syphilis.
	The Cure penicillin was deliberately withheld.
	Autopsies were mandatory.
	Broken families buried their fathers, never knowing the government had murdered them for medical data.
	The 1950s.
	Puerto Rico becomes a laboratory.
	Poor women, some illiterate, some coerced, fed experimental birth control pills for testing by Big Pharma.
	They suffered seizures, hemorrhages.
	Some called it population control.
	The victims called it genocide.
	Decades later, those same players would push vaccines with catastrophic fertility side effects.
	History is a spiral.
	World War II ended, but the Pentagon's war on its own soldiers had just begun.
	At Edgewood Arsenal, secret documents reveal that over 60,000 troops were exposed to sarin gas, VX nerve gas, and LSD.
	One veteran's handwritten note read, They told us it was harmless.
	I held my seizing friend as he vomited blood.
	The truth was only declassified after 80% of the victims were already dead.
	September 1950.
	The U.S. Navy operated aerosolized sprayers.
	They hummed over San Francisco, bumping Ceratia marsens bacteria into the fog.
	Aerosolized chemtrail event later linked to fatal pneumonia.
	The hospitals overflowed.
	The whistleblower's report was buried until a 1976 Senate hearing forced the admission.
	And then there was Operation Big Buzz, 1955.
	The Pentagon released millions of weaponized mosquitoes in Florida, testing how quickly they could infect a population.
	Malaria-like cases spiked.
	Internal memos bragged.
	Subjects exhibited symptoms within 72 hours.
	No warning, no cure.
	The Pentagon also turned soldiers into lab rats.
	Operation Whitecoat infected thousands with biological agents.
	One veteran testified, they told us it was harmless.
	Now my body's failing.
	It was classified as national security.
	No compensation.
	No justice.
	Even vaccines became weapons.
	Millions of Americans were injected with SV40, a monkey virus linked to cancer.
	The CDC buried the truth for 40 years.
	How many died?
	The numbers are buried under redacted reports.
	We'll never know.
	In 1977, we learned that from New York to St. Louis, military planes sprayed mock bioweapons on civilian cities.
	The goal?
	To study how quickly a lethal pathogen could spread by being aerosolized, dropped on the population.
	Who were the victims?
	Unconsenting civilians.
	Long before MKUltra, before Plum Island, there were the Tuskegee syphilis experiments, the deliberate infection of hundreds of black men, the lie of free treatment.
	Medicine was withheld, and they suffered for decades while the CDC watched and recorded their deterioration to extract medical data as they suffered and died.
	It was buried in classified files, denied until the bodies piled too high to ignore.
	Then came Operation Seaspray, 1950.
	The Pentagon turned an American city into a test lab.
	Human guinea pigs.
	That's what they called them.
	At Vanderbilt, pregnant women drank vitamin cocktails laced with radioactive iron.
	And their babies, they were stillborn.
	Or deformed.
	The files were sealed for 50 years.
	It was all part of government research.
	Then there were the Fernald School Science Club experiments.
	Orphans fed radioactive milk by MIT researchers, smiling for the cameras.
	Unknowingly, they signed their own death warrants.
	And when the truth came out, they were told there were no long-term consequences.
	But the graves of the victims tell another story.
	MKUltra wasn't just about LSD and psychological warfare.
	It was about annihilation of the self.
	Electroshock therapy at 30 times the safe voltage.
	Sensory deprivation tanks where subjects clawed at their own skin.
	The goal?
	Total mind fragmentation.
	And when the test subjects broke, the CIA laundered the data through universities, Princeton, Harvard.
	Every breakthrough in modern psychology has been baptized in blood.
	Plum Island was just the beginning.
	Former bioweapons scientists admitted Lyme's mutations were no accident.
	The same spirochetti research was conducted at Fort Dietrich in the 1960s.
	Coincidence?
	The Pentagon's own patents tell the truth.
	Weaponized ticks, patented with the United States Patent Office.
	Now victims of chronic Lyme disease are called hysterical.
	It's the same playbook that was used for Gulf War syndrome or for Morgellin's disease.
	Silence the sick, discredit the dying, deny everything.
	Then came the vaccine.
	Untested, unnecessary, unleashed with legal immunity.
	VARES reports skyrocketed, but the CDC scrubbed them.
	Autopsies revealed microclots, graphene, prion contamination.
	The doctors who spoke out, they were suspended, Erased, censored.
	This was never about health, it was about control.
	Digital IDs, CBDCs, depopulation, infertility, food shortages, the same agencies that poisoned San Francisco and murdered Tuskegee victims and dosed troops with anthrax now demand total compliance, absolute obedience from the very population they are working to exterminate.
	Even the Wuhan lab leak theory was not a conspiracy, it was a distraction.
	Because at Fort Dietrich, at the NIH, the U.S. funded gain-of-function research for decades.
	It was all illegal, but Fauci's emails prove it.
	EcoHealth Alliance's grants prove it.
	The 2011 bat coronavirus patent proves it.
	And now, they're moving on to the next phase.
	Transmissible vaccines, self-replicating mRNA, mosquito drones.
	The Pentagon calls it biodefense.
	It's an extermination agenda.
	And we, the American people, are now the targets.
	Concerning Anthony Fauci in 2014, he helped funnel millions of dollars into gain of function research, weaponizing viruses in Wuhan.
	This was an outsourcing of illegal bioweapons research.
	The result of it?
	COVID-19 vaccines, bioweapons intended to achieve depopulation sickness.
	Internal emails proved that Fauci knew what he was doing.
	Yet he pushed for lockdowns and vaccines and masks, crushing small businesses while Big Pharma reaped billions in profits.
	The thing is, all these government agencies, the DOD, the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, they're all still experimenting.
	They're still burning their records and denying the truth.
	Witnesses are disappearing and people are being buried.
	But the truth can't be killed.
	And there is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity.
	They want you weak.
	They want you sick and dead.
	But we are the resistance.
	Share this evidence.
	Share this video.
	Boycott their poisons.
	Fight like your life depends on it because it does.
	They experimented, they lied, they killed.
	Are you going to let them finish the job on you?
	Or are you going to fight back with the truth?
	I'm Mike Adams, the HealthRanger, the publisher of NaturalNews.com and the founder of Brighteon.com.
	And you can find more research reports like this one at healthrangerreport.com.
	Share it widely, share the truth, and help defend humanity against the extermination depopulation agenda.
	Thank you for listening.
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