Is Trump actually working to DESTROY America? Michael Yon offers new warning in latest interview
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Welcome, everybody, to this important interview with our overseas contact, Michael Yan, who is currently in Japan.
I'm Mike Adams, of course, at Brighteon.com.
This is audio only today because of the sort of last-minute nature of this, but as you'll see, we've got really important issues to cover.
Welcome, Michael, to the interview today.
Hey, thanks for having me on.
You were on the other day on that incredibly important vax call.
That was amazing.
Yeah, Dr. Murakami there in Japan with his research, they concluded that over 600,000 Japanese citizens have been killed by the jab.
That's extraordinary.
I mean, that's sad.
Yeah, I was listening in while you guys were talking.
That's actually stunning.
And Misako Ganaha has helped Dr. Murakami and others put this thing together.
And it's just growing.
It's getting worse and worse, as you well know.
And one of the big takeaways from that, well, two of them, I might as well just share with the audience, is that what the Japanese researchers found based on 21 million vaccine records and death records associated, what they found is that the peak death risk time is from about 60 days to 120 days after the vaccine.
That was shocking to me.
Right.
And, you know, Misako and I, we went for a long walk a couple nights ago talking about this.
You know, that it's clear that it's a weapon because it's, you know, it's not a vaccine.
It's just a weapon.
And it's clearly designed to depopulate.
And, you know, if you're going to do, you know, deploy and employ such a weapon, you don't want it to kill people instantly because it'll be very obvious.
I mean, the temporal difference between the shot and falling dead would be too obvious.
But if you stretch that thing out, it gives you more and more deniability while you also have plenty of time to get as many people shot as possible.
And obviously they succeeded very well in getting many people shot and boosted.
Absolutely.
And the other takeaway from that is that after about one year, there is no additional increased risk of death from the shot versus the unvaccinated.
So in other words, if you survive one year after taking one of those jabs, then you've made it through the risk period.
I mean, that's important to know.
Very important.
I'm curious, though, about the fertility rates for those who've been jabbed.
Well, right.
You're correct.
I'm only speaking about the death risk, but the fertility continues to decline.
And then also I wanted to ask you, Dr. Bhakti has said that the cognitive decline following these vaccines is really extraordinary.
And that actually leads me to the next topic I wanted to talk to you about.
You may be aware that Trump just threw his entire support base under the bus over Epstein.
He said that his past supporters are all hoodwinked.
They're all basically morons.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing because they bought into the Epstein hoax.
Now Trump is calling it.
And yet when he was running for president, he was calling out the Democrats for not releasing the Epstein files.
How can Trump even think he's going to get away with this unless so many people are dumbed down from the jab?
You know what I'm saying?
What are your thoughts?
Well, Trump, I mean, for those who've followed my work for years, they know that I've trusted Trump for a total of zero days still.
And I've been very clear about that since before the first election when Newt Gingrich called me up in my office one day in Thailand.
It was like 10 years ago or something.
And he was trying to rummage up support for Trump.
And I'm like, nope.
You know, I mean, I'm not going to vote for Clinton, but I don't trust Trump.
There's just something about him.
You know, you can spot when it comes to spotting personalities.
You can spot your likeness and you can spot your opposite.
And with Trump, I was spotting my opposite.
And I realized that that guy is a traitor.
And there's nothing about him that I trust.
I've never trusted him.
It's only gotten worse.
And it's all turned out to be accurate.
And now, of course, many people will say, well, what choice did we have?
I mean, we had to pick the worst of the evils, which is actually a false choice.
It's actually what they want you to think, that you only had a choice between this one or that one, red pill or blue pill from some guy whose name you never knew.
And, you know, I mean, that in and of itself is another layer of the trickery to think that you only have two choices when there were actually other people running for president.
But even if you, if, even if the other people had no chance of winning the presidency, you still should not actually support anybody who's actually trying to kill you, right?
And as we know, both sides are trying.
We have this habit of, you know, once we pick a side and say, if we pick a side, but let's say we do pick a side and we pick side A, right?
And so now that, you know, people get behind side A, they have this tendency to lionize that person, to say, okay, this is our hero and to treat that person like a hero when that person is not a hero at all.
In fact, that person is covering up Epstein Island now.
He's covering up the death jabs.
He's still sticking with the death jabs.
And we're in, you know, mid-2025 at this point.
I mean, that's inexcusable.
I mean, some people say, well, beyond the death jab, what other problem do you have with Trump?
I'm like, what do you mean beyond the death jab?
What other problem do you have?
It's like besides being a Nazi death camp operator for five years, what else did our client do that makes you upset?
He doesn't have to do anything else whatsoever.
And that's enough right there.
And as you, you were on that call the other day with the 21 million records that they've assembled here in Japan.
I'm in Japan.
And Dr. Murakami and his team and Masaku Ganaha were presenting that.
You were on the call, and they're saying 600,000 Japanese are dead from this.
That's just Japanese.
That doesn't include Americans and Canadians and Thai people.
And Panamanians are heavily jabbed.
Panamanians were locked down like wild.
I mean, just like Australia was as well, Kiwiland, all across Europe.
I mean, the death toll must be in the significant millions.
Well, and I hate to bring up this painful chapter of history, but the deaths in Japan from this jab, which is primarily an American invention, these deaths, the number of deaths exceed the deaths from Nagasaki and Hiroshima in World War II.
They do.
And, you know, at this point, as this continues to unfold and they continue to come out with more jabs of different sorts, you know, we went, Dr. Murakami and Masako and I, about, I don't know, a year and a half ago, we went up to another plant up in Fukushima Prefecture where they're going to, where they are now rolling out more, these replicon jabs.
These replicons, as you know, because you talked with Dr. Murakami about, I don't know, maybe a year ago, right, or eight months ago.
And you and Dr. Murakami were talking about how these things, you know, somebody gets the jab from the replicon.
And now people even that did not get the jab suddenly are infected by it.
It spreads like a disease.
And they're rolling those out now.
I mean, we don't, they're clearly genociding us.
That's like nakedly obvious.
They say it, actually.
It's not conspiracy theory.
At this point, the people that still think that's conspiracy theory, I don't know.
Maybe they're jabbed and their cognitive decline is causing them not to be able to see it.
I don't know what the causality is.
Well, there's a lot of cult-like behavior in the Trump camp right now.
I want to even mention that and ask you to respond to it, where there's this whole group of people who are more connected to the Trump establishment who are telling everybody else, shut up, stop talking about the Epstein files.
And then the rest of us are saying, wait a second, you're asking us to stay silent on pedophilia and human sex trafficking of children.
And this is what MAGA now means?
So to be MAGA, you have to be pro-pedophile and pro-child trafficking, really?
I mean, that's what it has come to.
And it's bizarre.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's not bizarre to me at all.
I mean, because I expected these things and I've been saying it out loud many, many times.
And you've been calling them out hardcore as well.
But the BBB bill, the big beautiful bill or whatever they call it, that's a clear sign, just calling it BBB, that it is World Economic Forum agenda.
I mean, straight up.
I mean, when Ava Vlardingerbrook and I were on with Jordan Peterson, I don't know, two years ago or three years ago over in Netherlands, there was a party called the Bordemberger Bewegung, if my Dutch is okay, which means Farmers' People's Movement, Bortemberger Bevegung, right?
And so they're campaign signs all over the Netherlands.
I drove all over the place looking, you know, talking with farmers and whatnot, but those campaign signs were BB Better.
You know, it's literally BB Better.
And the first sign that I saw, it took me like five seconds.
They're telling you who they are.
They are World Economic Forum.
And so, you know, I talked with a lot of the farmers.
One of them is named Joran.
He's a dairy farmer that Masako and I know.
In fact, he's a farm protest leader for the farmers.
And Joran was very sold on the BBB because he thought that they were honestly representing the farmers.
And I kept saying, Joran, it's not.
Look, it's on their signs, man.
It's like the Monty Python.
Look at its teeth, you know, with the killer rabbit, you know?
And anyway, the Bordemberger Beveging, the BBB better, they got a lot of votes.
They took a lot of seats and they got a lot of power.
And they did exactly what Ava Vlardinger-Brooke and I warned about.
They did it.
They started ripping into the farmers and doing, and this whole BBB, you know, bill, the big, beautiful bill is going to be the same thing.
You know, because he's signaling what, I mean, he is not on our side.
He's just an enemy.
He is a Trojan horse.
Trump.
Well, that's becoming increasingly clear.
And let me shift to the next thing that Trump just announced.
I'd like to get your reaction to this, because now we're dealing with international trade and geopolitics.
So Trump says that if Russia doesn't agree to a ceasefire, and we don't know the terms of a ceasefire, but Russia has already said we're not going to agree to any ceasefire because the West would just use that to rearm.
And we know from watching what happened to Iran that when Trump says the U.S. is negotiating with a country, they're actually using negotiations as a deception to bomb or attack that country, right?
So the U.S. is incapable of negotiating in good faith.
But if Trump doesn't sign a ceasefire, we're told in 50 days, the U.S. is going to put 100% secondary tariffs on all the countries that purchase Oil from Russia.
And that includes somehow the United States.
I mean, the U.S. purchases energy from Russia, but of course, China, India, Turkey, and the EU all purchase energy from Russia.
So, Michael, do you think that we're going to actually see in 50 days 100% tariffs on the EU and India and Turkey?
I mean, what the hell?
Go ahead.
I wouldn't doubt it because he's clearly trying to destroy the United States.
And so, you know, this is, and by the way, what they're doing with the negotiations, so-called negotiations, it's what the Chinese call ta-ta-tan-tan, right?
It means fight, fight, talk, talk, right?
Mao used to say things like that.
And so, you know, back before the first shots were fired in the Ukraine war, you know, Russia and Ukraine were having talks and people said, okay, they've solved it.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
And I published straight up, this is Ta-Ta-Tan-Tan, right?
That's a clear talk, talk, and they're about to fight, fight.
And they did because it was obvious they were showing all the signs that they were about to fight, like moving tanks to the border.
And just, you know, of course, you'd never know.
Maybe they would have called it off, but they didn't.
And they're fighting in the biggest battles of the whole war are unfolding now, right?
So we're deeply into it.
Now, it's clear that Trump is destroying the United States and he's doing it with great intent.
You know, obviously he pushed the death jabs.
I mean, you would never do that to your own people unless you were trying to, you know, kill them.
And he really forced it on the military.
He did.
He forced it on the military.
And, you know, he's listening to Eric Carrilla.
I knew Eric.
I did five months of combat with him.
He's the Central Command Commander right now, commanding general.
And, you know, I'm, you know, hearing that he's doing all these private briefings with Trump.
And, you know, Eric, I know him well.
I mean, I did five months of combat with him.
I mean, like right with him, side by side in the same firefights, shoulder to shoulder.
I mean, I was there with a camera.
So I've got him in many, many firefights and bombings and everything else when he was the commander of a 124th Infantry Regiment in Mosul, Iraq.
He was a great commander back then.
But now he is gone.
He was a huge vax pusher.
And that was when I had a hard break with Eric.
I'm like, that's it.
You know, that'll be enough.
I mean, you know, there's nobody gets a break on the jab.
Nobody.
And not even Eric Carrilla.
And that's very sad, actually.
But now he, you know, he's, according to the Israelis, he's, you know, Israel's favorite general.
And it's almost as if Eric now represents Israel, not the United States.
Yeah, the word is he gets his intel straight from Mossad and he's pushing the whole narrative that...
I said right after the bombing of Iran, I said the very next day, you just wait.
Before long, Israel will say that America failed to destroy the uranium and Israel will start to call for a new bombing of Iran.
Sure enough, that just came out over the last few days.
I mean, the playbook is so obvious at this point.
Oh, it's Tata Tantan.
That's what it is.
The war is not over.
You know, the so-called 12-day war, which is a farce.
I'm like, this is Tata Tantan.
This is a huge war.
The magnitude of this war, I think, is too large for most people's minds to even comprehend and how far back it goes in history.
Even military officers, I'm on these various calls with the, and some of the even higher ranking now retired, don't actually understand how actually serious this is and how deep it is.
This is way beyond Israel's security.
I mean, anybody that thinks that this is about Israel's security has zero idea of what's going on at all.
This is about Israel itself is a puppet in the larger war, in the much larger war.
They're a puppet.
And, you know, this is, you know, I got these series of four books.
It's called Hanway's Travels.
It's from 1754.
And I was just had them up in my library looking at them last night.
And it's talking about the Caspian and the Armenians and the Persians and the Russians.
And this is 1754.
I should send that to you, Michael.
And you'll see the things that he was writing in 1754.
Again, change the names, change the dates.
It's what's happening right now, right?
I mean, same players, Caspian Sea, of course, is so vital.
The routes for the Russians and the Persians and the Turks, and it's all the same players doing the same stuff.
What I'm getting to is this is nothing new.
And it's not about, you know, save the Jews type thing.
That's not what's going on.
It's about routes and resources, right?
Some of those resources are human resources.
I've got, you know, I've probably got a dozen books up in my library upstairs that are about depopulation.
Some of these books are from the 1800s, right?
And they're telling you how to depopulate.
They're telling you, you know, like in France and different places.
This is old stuff.
This is old stuff that the, you know, the big, big players like the Venetians and the Mongols, you know, working together, you know, these sorts of things.
It's not about Israel.
Israel is a major player, of course, but they are, it's the Zionist, actually.
Let's say Israel itself is more of a, I mean, that's strategic land right there.
The reason that Israel even exists as a country now is because it's strategic.
It's near the Suez Canal and it's near other things.
And so, and right now, of course, in more recent times, they've discovered all that energy.
And of course, you know, the Indo-European corridor will go right through, you know, from Mumbai, India, over to through some of the countries like UAE and Saudi and come through Jordan there and come right through Israel, right?
And so there's, and possibly the Ben-Gurion Canal and that sort of thing.
So, I mean, this is routes and resources.
And I would not doubt that we will see Strait of Hormuz get closed.
I don't know if it's going to happen, obviously, but I would not doubt it that if the Strait of Hormuz gets closed and we do it, actually, just like we did Nordstream, and that we blame it on Iran as caused this belly to go really hog wild on them, because obviously we don't want to have our fingerprints on closing the Strait of Hormuz because that would really not sit well with the Saudis and the Qataris and the Bahrainis.
And, you know, we got our Fifth Fleet headquarters there in Bahrain.
I've been inside of them before with the commander and Secretary Gates actually took me there.
But, you know, the Kuwaitis and the Iraqis, nobody's going to be happy if we close the Strait of Hormuz.
But notice that we haven't touched the Iranian Navy, but we keep seeing this information campaign that the Iranian Navy may be preparing to mine the Strait of Hormuz or whatever, you know.
And it's pretty obvious that we're setting the information conditions that we can close it.
And that would be devastating.
You know, obviously Iran doesn't want to close the Strait of Hormuz.
Why would that?
That'd be like, you know, a lot of people still believe that the Russians cut and blew up Nord Stream, which is just like, you know, you can't even make up this stuff.
But, you know, Iran, of course, would never want to close the Strait of Hormuz unless all of their infrastructure was destroyed.
And that was their Samsung option.
But, you know, of course, China, and I'm here in Japan.
If the Strait of Hormuz gets closed, Misako and I are going to stop everything we're doing and prepare for shortages here.
I mean, that's closed for any significant length of time.
It's going to be probably have a significant impact on Japan, right?
Let me bring this in.
So Trump recently slapped 25% tariffs on Japan, which I've called that insane.
Why would you punish your allies with 25% tariffs?
He's got a 30% tariff on the EU.
He's got a 50% tariff on Brazil and also tariffs on South Korea and other allies.
It's like Trump, I've said this before, but I'd love your reaction to it.
Trump is enacting an international embargo against the United States.
It's like what the U.S. Navy did to Japan in World War II.
Now Trump is doing it to America.
It's kind of like it's an act of war against the U.S. economy to cut off all supply chains to the U.S. I mean, how else do you describe it?
It all makes sense when you realize Trump is helping to destroy the United States, and he's doing it methodically and with great intent.
Not that he's the guy that's smart enough to make this plan.
The players that are doing this are, Trump is just a condom.
He's not the big player.
He can come and go.
He's like a leaf on an autumn tree.
He'll be gone soon enough.
And then somebody else will replace him.
But so Trump, again, he is just a face, right?
And he's not the guy doing this.
But this is about destruction of the United States.
I want to reiterate, the war that's been going on for a long time is much, much bigger and much deeper than most people, I think, would even fathom to believe.
It is significant.
It's not, you know, the president of the United States is obviously not really in charge.
I mean, that's really, really nakedly obvious, right?
But he's, you know, in 2014, I was there in Thailand.
I had an office there.
And, you know, there was a lot of fighting in 2014, a lot of casualties.
I was in it, right in the middle of it.
And, you know, they were trying to overthrow the government.
And the ambassador that we had there, her name was Christy Kinney, the U.S. ambassador to Thailand, the embassy, a giant embassy in Bangkok.
And because that used to be our big operations center for all of that part of Asia, right?
And so Christy Kinney, that was our ambassador.
She was doing so many things, which were, at first, I thought she was just amazingly stupid or inept, actually.
But over time, and in fact, if you web search my name and Christy Kinney, you'll see all kinds of articles, and especially if you can type in Thai, you'll see many articles in the Thai language about my big public fights with Christy Kinney.
Because, you know, I'm quite well known in Thailand because of some of the things I've done over there.
And I was fighting her and saying, why are you doing this?
Thailand is our most important ally in Southeast Asia by far.
And our most important ally in the world is clearly Japan, which is where I'm sitting at right now, which is not a coincidence, right?
And it's not a coincidence I spent so much time in Thailand.
These are incredibly important partners.
But she was clearly sabotaging our relationship with over time.
I started to realize she's just sabotaging our relationship.
I'll give you one example.
One time, Christy Kinney, she was, it was like, she did these videos.
It was like the Christy Kinney show almost.
And she was with the mail.
She was in the mailroom of the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, right?
You could probably find this online.
So she's got photos of herself and people in the mailroom, like congratulating them for doing a good job.
You can't even make up this stuff.
That's the mailroom of the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok.
You should not be publishing who they are with their pictures, right?
And so I wrote her a letter.
I did it publicly as if it came from the MSS chief in Beijing.
MSS is the Ministry of State Security.
It's the Chinese Central Intelligence Agency, right?
So I wrote this letter.
You could probably find it online.
And I said, you know, thank you very much.
This is so-and-so from the MSS in Beijing.
And we really appreciate that you just showed us who all works in Your mailroom.
We'll be inviting them to, you know, to Bali and places like that soon.
You know, I mean, this is the kind of idiocy she was doing on a regular basis.
And then we saw the U.S. ambassador here in Japan doing similar, and then an ambassador in India doing similar, clearly sabotaging our relationships, doing things that were very insulting to local people that a good ambassador just never would do.
So you see this demolition in subtle ways that most people won't quite see because they're, you know, they're busy at home in Texas or Oklahoma or Florida, and they're not, they don't, you know, they don't know what's going on with our State Department in Thailand or what they're doing down in Panama to destroy our relations with Panama, flying the rainbow flag at the U.S. Embassy in Panama.
The Panamanians don't like that stuff.
They like their families.
They don't like their kids being told that they need to do a sex change.
And so this is the kind of thing that happens downrange that you really only see it while you're out on the ground.
But it's clear that Trump is intentionally dismantling the United States.
He's destroying it.
He's hoodwinking MAGA and they've been duped.
So, all right.
So some of the mechanisms of that destruction are, like I just said, an economic embargo against the United States that Trump is putting in place by calling it secondary tariffs.
That's going to cut off all the supply chains.
And Michael, we were about to purchase a very expensive piece of equipment from Italy.
It's only made in Italy.
It's for our warehouse automation.
It would help us be a lot more efficient.
You can't buy it in the United States.
You can't buy it in China.
You can't buy it anywhere except Italy.
Now Trump just put another 30% tariff on that.
We can't possibly afford it now, right?
So we're already experiencing the cutoff of the global supply chains.
But my question to you, Michael, is who's giving Trump these orders?
Who is this?
Or what family or what cabal or who's above Trump that's giving him the marching orders here?
That's the big question.
It's clearly oligarchical structures, but who's at the lead of this?
It's not Bill Gates and those sort of things.
Those are still sub-puppets as well.
A billionaire is not that wealthy compared to the Rockefeller type level, right?
I mean, we're talking big boys here.
The kind of people that can buy ports with pocket lint.
Again, this has been going on for centuries and it's nothing new.
It's just at a much more intense level than it's ever been.
I mean, we were born at interesting times.
How'd that Chinese proverb go?
Well, that's us.
And now who's actually giving Trump orders?
I don't know.
I mean, it's clear that he's within the Zionist architecture.
But how powerful are actually the Zionists compared to whoever else is out there in the jungle?
When I was out there in Darien Gap in Panama with Brett Weinstein, and he said something like, to me, Brett's a very smart guy.
He's always trying to get to the bottom of things.
He did his PhD work down in Panama, actually.
And, you know, he said something like, you know, you keep saying they.
Who is they?
And I'm like, I don't know, Brett.
I mean, who runs this jungle?
I mean, I don't really know who runs the jungle.
But I know it's a jungle and I know it's an intense place.
And I know some of the players, like the Chinese Communist Party, led by Xi, of course, but there's oligarchical structures underneath that as well, right?
In Russia, it's not just Putin.
It's the oligarchs as well, right?
So he's got it.
And so, you know, and the World Economic Forum is like a, you know, a place where, you know, you get a lot of these other disparate oligarchical structures together and cooperate.
Now, keep in mind, China and Russia have been working hard on the SCO, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is like the other NATO.
And that, you know, they're trying to bunch up the structures there in Asia, of course.
You got some powerful people in places like, or at least very wealthy people in places like Thailand, right?
And very important.
Thailand is key terrain right there.
A lot of people don't get that.
They don't understand what our grandparents understood, how important places like Thailand actually are, right?
And Thailand is being dismantled.
That's clear.
I've spent a lot of time there.
I've been all over that country.
I've been flying around with the prime minister and that sort of thing.
I've been out at the rocket festivals.
I spent years running around Thailand.
That's how important it is.
And now the Chinese are building a canal through Cambodia off of the Mekong River that'll go into the Gulf of Thailand.
And as they build a train, that'll go across the Kra Isthmus from the Gulf of Thailand over into the Indian Ocean.
I've got map sheets in my head, so I'm sorry for those who aren't tracking on the geography that I'm talking about.
I've literally got like atlases in my mind, you know, because I'm always out there on the ground.
But anyway, that'll allow China to bypass the Strait of Malacca, you know, of the seven major naval choke points.
You know, of course, you know, that railway that China just opened with Tehran, that's part of the BRI, the Belt Road Initiative.
That railroad goes down into Thailand, too, and it's going to go across the Kra Isthmus, which is like sort of like Panama Canal of Thailand.
They don't have a canal there.
They've been thinking about that for centuries, but it's a little bit harder than the Panama Canal, which is really hard.
And so nobody has built a canal there yet.
They've thought about it and started to go for it at times, but never really quite kicked it off.
But they're building the railway right now.
All right.
Okay.
And again, routes and resources.
And I would also add currencies too, because the U.S. is burning up its dollar reputation very, very rapidly.
Let me read for you something That Xi, President Xi of China, just said in a recent meeting with Sergei Lavrov of Russia.
Trying to get the pronunciation correct there, Lavrov.
She said, quote, China and Russia are not building an alliance.
We are building a new global reality.
The West must either adapt or disappear.
And he said, the West wants others to live in perpetual poverty so that their banks remain rich.
And we do not seek to rule over the world, only to liberate it from those who believe they own it.
So, you know, fascinating, very aggressive words, which China is normally very reserved, obviously.
What do you make of that statement from Xi?
Well, you know, it's not a coincidence that a lot of people are jumping for the gold right now.
And actually, if you go back to the Mongol and Venetian times, this is the sort of stuff that was going on back then, you know, when Marco Polo headed over to China in the 1300s, right?
And he brought the first fiat back to Europe from China, right?
You know, he was, you know, they got that idea from the Chinese.
And it's quite, quite fascinating that the things that were going on back then are the things that are going on now.
They had these trade routes and the Venetians were using the Mongols to be their enforcers and knock off their competition.
Like, you know, if other trade centers started to pop up, the Mongols would get in there and pillage them, right?
I mean, that's what's going on right now.
And, you know, routes and resources, of course, that's what we've got.
But again, one of the things that's really important is there clearly are some of the oligarchical structures that want to put us in famine.
That's crystal clear.
The question is, how will they affect this?
How can they make it happen?
And they've been setting conditions now for years.
One is like Nord Stream growing in Gasfield, you know, disrupting fertilizer production, you know, the H5N1, screw worms, just a long list, right?
And also they've made these invasion routes that are quite effective now, like Dairy and Gap, which is closed down for the moment.
However, it can instantly reopen.
But it's clear that, you know, that they, they are, that this, the beast, I call it, is setting conditions for famines.
Now, if there are famines, now keep in mind, I have a whole, in my library, I've got a bunch of books about how to create famines.
And this stuff goes back centuries, right?
So this is like Victorian famines that the British would do.
This isn't like, you know, hocus-pocus stuff.
No, no, this is straight up warfare.
This is like, you know, mayhen naval type stuff, but it's, you know, famine instead, right?
I mean, so this is, this is a well-known strategy in war and it's very effective.
And it's very clear that they're doing this.
What would I do if I were in the power positions that they're in and I wanted to create famines and I wanted to create maximum chaos?
I would do things like close Strait of Hormuz and blame it on the Iranians.
And that's easy to do.
And remember, we haven't shut down their navy.
Why haven't we destroyed the Iranian Navy when we're alleging that they may mine the Strait of Hormuz?
See, that doesn't make sense, right?
Unless maybe we're going to close the Strait of Hormuz.
You see, of course, the Houthis have sank a couple of ships recently, which is obviously affecting a lot of the traffic through Babel Mandab and the Suez.
And of course, a lot of that traffic can go around Africa, but that costs a lot more and adds time and cost and that sort of thing.
Now, what would I do?
If I really wanted to create huge famines, I would do things like cut Nord Stream, cut Groningen, cut a lot of other things like that.
I would close the Strait of Hormuz.
I would close Suez, Strait of Malacca.
I would close the Panama Canal without destroying it, right?
That's what I would do.
I would close those down for some period of time and turn off electricity, you know, shut off as much grit as I could shut off, right?
I would do things like that.
If I were the devil, if I were Paul Harvey saying if I were the devil, I would shut those, maybe the Bosphorus and that sort of thing, of course, actually definitely that.
And Strait of Gibraltar, but certainly Suez and certainly Hormuz, Malacca, and Panama.
Because if you shut those things down for any significant amount of time, that's going to cause some problems.
You're going to definitely create some famines.
That's going to create massive problems.
And one thing about famines is you generally, in almost all cases, the government that's in charge when the famine happens will not be the government in charge after the famine.
I've got a book upstairs called The Hungry 40s.
And that book is about the 1840s when there were famines across Europe.
And it caused a lot.
It's very interesting.
They call it the Hungry 40s.
But it caused a lot of changes in government.
But that's why, again, famine is a huge weapon in war.
But if you want to dissolve all the borders, dissolve all the power, dissolve a lot of the power structures, I would create global famines.
I mean, if I were the devil, right?
And wish to reduce the population.
It seems like what you're describing, global famine, it's also going along with global depopulation via the jabs, which also Trump continues to defend and push, and also global infertility.
Now, all of these appear to be attacks on human populations or human civilization, right?
Now, my question to you, Michael, and I apologize if this is too far out because you normally don't touch on these topics, but is it possible, have you ever considered the possibility that these marching orders might be coming either from a rogue AI or an extraterrestrial AI or something that is not of human origin.
I doubt it.
And the reason why I say that is: I wish you could see my library and how much time I spend with books and looking through history and studying these things for years and years.
And it's just nothing new.
It's nothing new at all.
I'm not seeing any.
I should send you, I wish you could see my 1754 set, actually, you know, in the Caspian Sea, or just a long list of books that I've, you know, either read completely or stabbed through and read parts of.
And it's a lot over the years.
And I'm not really seeing anything new at all other than we've got new computers and things like that, but none of this, you know, using famine or using, you know, like the Venetian oligarchs using the Mongols as their enforcers.
You know, that was, you know, that was, you know, a long time ago, right?
And, you know, the Mongol hordes, they were enforcers.
So they were working together to knock over towns and kingdoms and that sort of thing.
And that was all about trade, right?
Now, from the ground perspective, it looks like it's just the Mongols going crazy.
But in reality, it was the Mongols and the Venetians working together.
And so these sorts of things, it's common.
It's normal.
It doesn't mean it's good.
You know, if we want to talk about actual vaccines, these books I have from the 1800s on vaccines, one of them's from smallpox, 1889, I think is the book, or 1882.
I don't remember.
But anyway, if you read that book, all you have to do is change the names and the dates and everything's the same.
It's like, you know, it's like word for word, you know, COVID, right?
You know, the smallpox vaccine that it's not helping and it's killing people and it's impinging on our freedoms.
It's like word for word.
And we're talking the 1880s.
Wow.
Right.
So, all right.
So the same history just sort of modernized.
But one difference is that since the 1990s today, you've got countries like Iran and Yemen that have proven they have very capable missiles or ocean drones or even ballistic missiles in the case of Iran.
They did quite a number on Israel.
They bombed the smithereens out of Tel Aviv for 12 days, and I have a feeling that's not over yet.
Can you talk to us about how you see the dynamic really shifting?
Because in Desert Storm, the U.S. had absolute dominance over militarily over everything.
Today, that doesn't seem to be the case.
What do you think?
Yeah.
I mean, now, the basics of what's happening, the morphology of what's happening is basically the same.
But the size and the intensity, that's not the same.
Obviously, now we've got intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons and lasers from space and all kinds of things, you know, and untold weapons.
I don't even know what's out there.
And obviously the drones are becoming incredibly capable.
But the basic ideas, and I think we're going to see more of it.
And I think this war, again, wars are kind of easy to predict if you stick to a few basics.
One is wars grow.
That's highly predictable.
They grow unpredictably, right?
As this one is doing, it's growing unpredictably.
They predictably grow unpredictably.
And they last longer than people expect, right?
And often the winners and losers are not what people expected, right?
But keep in mind, when you step back from this very far and get more of an orbital view, there's always players in the background, like the so-called bankers, who are doing big stuff from a distance, action at a distance, with big gold, right?
Usually gold and sometimes silver.
And they're, you know, BIS, the Bank of International Settlements, made gold a tier one asset in recent times.
I read a good book on that called The Tower of Basil.
Not the Tower of Babel, but The Tower of Basil.
It's about the formation of the BIS.
Very interesting story.
And it talks about the book, The Tower of Basil.
Again, not Babel, but Basil, because it's in Basel, Switzerland.
The Tower of Basil talks about how the BIS actually helped steal, I think it was Czechoslovakian gold, actually.
And I think, who did they give it to?
I've forgotten.
I'm sorry, but it may have been actually Germany.
And so, yeah, I think they did.
I think they stole the Czech gold and gave it to Germany.
I'd have to look in the book again.
But anyway, the point is, is they were they're just doing these things.
You know, they're doing big stuff.
They don't care about the Nazis.
They don't care about Jews.
They don't care about it's all about money and power.
It's about something much more fundamental to them.
It's Machiavellian on a grand scale.
Yeah, well, clearly that's the case.
And we're all caught in the middle of this.
The hard part for people to understand here is how do you have any sense of predictability about what's next, especially with Trump?
Because every day, literally every day, he says something just completely out of the blue that sounds crazy.
You know, like, oh, the Epstein files are a total hoax.
But the day before, his daughter, I believe, Laura Trump was saying, oh, we decided we're going to respond to our base and we're going to release Epstein files.
Then the very next day, Trump says it's a total hoax.
And same thing with the tariffs.
It's like, you know how Trump got the nickname Taco, right?
I call it Trump Taco Tuesday.
T-A-C-O, Trump always chickens out Taco.
Oh, gosh.
So I call it Taco Tuesday.
Yeah.
Orange Taco Tuesday.
And so Trump saying, oh, we're going to slap 100% tariffs on China.
And then Ford calls the White House and says, hey, we can't make cars.
We ran out of neodymium magnets from China.
And Trump's like, oh, okay, well, we've got to back down on that.
And it's like, oh my God, how does anybody navigate this?
I think Trump's quite predictable, actually.
And I've been saying this for a long time.
If your paradigm is, if you've got a working paradigm that's actually working and usable, then you should not be surprised by anything.
If you're surprised, something's either wrong with your paradigm or your input information is either muddy or it's not accurate, right?
And now in my paradigm, Trump is a traitor and he's doing everything he can to destroy the United States.
And that is a highly predictable paradigm.
If you just experiment with that for a month or two, you'll see how accurate, how unsurprised you are by anything that he does.
And it's highly predictive.
And like, for instance, this law that was passed on the 287G, which is the, you know, the Department of Homeland Security has built anyway, it deals with deporting people, right?
I'll skip the details.
But anyway, in Texas, I just left Texas.
I almost said here in Texas.
But back in Texas, you know, a law got passed about, I don't know, six weeks ago or yeah, about maybe six weeks ago on 287G on how Texas, you know, I think you've covered this or you and I talked about it.
And as soon as that law got passed there in Texas, Trump congratulated them and said, I'll be watching you.
It was on his true social, right?
And a lot of my friends in Texas said, see, look, he's actually doing something positive.
But in fact, the law that they passed in Texas was the worst possible law out of all the bills that were there to be considered, right?
They passed the one that was the worst for Texas and for the United States when it comes to doing mass deportations, right?
But Trump came out on his Truth Social and he says, great job, Texas.
You passed this great law.
And everybody goes, yay, they did it.
But it's BBB.
It's Build Back Better type stuff, right?
The big beautiful bill, right?
He is clearly a traitor.
And he's clearly, he pushed the death jab.
What else more is there to say beyond that, right?
And so if you experiment with the paradigm that he's just a traitor, he's destroying the United States and he's destroying our important allies like Japan and Thailand, if he can, and many of the others, of course, he'll focus more on the big players like, of course, Germany.
They're up on the ropes, man.
Germany's not doing well at all.
And of course, we destroyed Nordstream.
And as I've said with you before, there's only two suspects who destroyed Nordstream, and Russians aren't one of them.
The only two suspects, the only two viable suspects are the United States or Martians.
It was either Americans or space aliens, right?
We destroyed Nordstream.
It was very clear that we did it, right?
And why did we do that?
Well, I mean, I can list the reasons, actually, if you want to talk about, you know, about keeping Russia separate from Germany.
That's been a desire of the English for a long time, right?
And, you know, McKinder, we're going back to Halford McKinder stuff, right?
You know, if Germany has really cheap energy, their manufacturing will be dominant and their economy will grow and yada, yada.
One thing led to another.
Nordstream got blown up, right?
And so at the end of the day, Europe is being deindustrialized.
Now, one thing that's important, floods.
Where are all these floods coming from?
Right.
Yeah.
I want to ask you.
You just had one near you, right?
And now a lot of water infrastructure is being removed, such as in Europe.
And I don't know what water structure may or may not have been removed in the United States, but in Europe, they're removing water infrastructure without telling people, right?
And so it's setting people up for catastrophe, obviously, right?
And in fact, there's a website, which I've published a couple of times, which you could easily find by web searching like water infrastructure removal Europe, right?
And you'll see that there's a website where they're bragging about we're, you know, basically returning it to the bears and the beavers and the wolves and that sort of thing.
So it's not just that places like Ireland and all of Europe is being invaded by Africa and Asia.
It's that also water infrastructure is being removed.
And so you're going to end up, even with all these people that are invading to genocide the Europeans and Americans and Canadians and Aussies and Japanese.
There's a lot of them coming in here into Japan as well.
It's not like the World Economic Forum and all those guys want a bunch of Haitians running around the United States.
They're going to genocide them too.
That's clear.
That's crystal clear.
And so the first object is they have to take out people like us who are not going kindly.
We don't want to be their slaves and we don't make good slaves.
I'm Scott's Irish culture and Scott Irish are the most terrible slaves on earth.
I mean, they're just not good at being slaves.
And we don't like kings and that sort of thing.
And it's just part of the firmware.
But they'll use these invaders to come in and wipe out the Irish, which is happening in so many other countries.
And then, of course, the people, those invaders will be destroyed.
And they'll keep their children as they'll keep the ones that they want and throw away the ones that they don't want.
They can throw them away.
They can kill them as they wish.
All right.
So let me ask you this question.
We're getting close to the end of our interview here.
I appreciate your time very much.
You already answered the extraterrestrial AI question.
You say that's not even necessary to explain this because we've seen all this before in history.
But one thing that is now completely Different that has never happened before in history is the actual rise of capable AI robots and AI software agents that, for the first time in human history, can replace humans competently.
What do you think that factor means?
In other words, is that part of the calculus of whoever's behind this thinking that, well, we just don't need humans as much anymore?
Clearly.
I mean, they say it.
Clearly.
I mean, they say it.
And, you know, a lot of the people in the World Economic Forum, they want to reduce humans.
That's why they do all these gayification programs, trying to make children gay and whatnot, reducing the population so that fertility drops down for so many causes.
They want to replace us.
They want to replace us first with invading our countries with people from places like Africa, Asia, and then killing them off as well.
And then whatever's left, they'll keep whatever humans they want, and then the rest they can do with machines.
So any idea what number of humans they want to depopulate?
I mean, this gets back to the vaccines.
You know, they've killed 600,000 Japanese.
They've killed at least 1.5 million Americans.
They've killed 20 million around the world just with those jabs alone.
And there's more on the way.
But what do you think this means about, are there target levels of remaining populations or anything like that that you're aware of?
I don't know what they really want to reach it down to.
Do they want to get it down to 600 million or so?
I don't know.
Of course, there's been talk about the numbers, but I don't know what their in-state goal is.
Of course, they're going to need enough.
I mean, these are serious people.
They know how to do the math, right?
They're going to need enough people to continue to work on their technology and to go forward with the sorts of ways that they want to live.
I think one of the problems that a lot of the globalists have, though, is that it is a multiplayer game and that there are Chinese out there and there are Russians out there and Iranians that don't want to play.
They don't want to play like how the Zionists want to play, right?
They don't want to play the way that oligarchical structure plays.
The Zionists, of course, they're amorphous.
They have different groups within the Zionists.
But, you know, there's a lot of people that they're going to fight each other.
And how's that going to end up?
Is it going to end up in nuclear combat?
If it does, then we don't have to worry about AI, that's for sure.
And I don't know how it's going to end up.
Nobody does.
Yeah, good point.
All right.
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You're on Substack and X and elsewhere.
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Right.
I'm on Substack and X. And actually, mostly what I do is help other people get out there in the field planting mustard seeds.
But I'm on Substack pretty often.
So you can find me on Substack with my name, Michael Jan, Yankee Oscar November, Y-O-N.
All right.
MichaelYan.substack.com.
And then on X, it's Michael underscore Jan.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Okay, great.
All right, Michael.
Thank you for staying up late.
You're in Japan.
You're up late.
We really appreciate your analysis.
And I don't know, pray for humanity.
What do we do here?
It's not looking good, but I appreciate your time.
I'm weirdly not afraid and weirdly still happy.
You know what I mean?
At the end of the day, we're going to God and that's it.
And there's, you know, be not afraid.
I'm just not afraid.
We're just going to keep resisting this thing and somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose.
Yeah, I don't feel fear about this either, just uncertainty.
But like you, you know, you and I are both people who are highly, highly adaptive.
And we're trying to help other people be similarly adaptive so they can navigate this.
Yeah, I agree with you.
We don't have to face the future with fear.
We're just trying to figure it out so we can navigate it.
That's all.
But thank you, Michael, for your time.
That's great.
I appreciate it.
All right.
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