Why the Illusion of PEACE in the Middle East won’t last long (BBN, June 27, 2025)
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All right, folks.
Well, welcome to Brytown Broadcast News for Friday, June 27th, 2025.
I'm Mike Adams, and we have further confirmation today of this theory of cooperation between the Trump White House and Iran.
I mean, maybe it's only temporary, but it is a level of cooperation.
And now we have major further confirmation points.
For example, the White House announcing that they plan to lift the economic sanctions on Iran and invest $30 billion in a new nuclear energy program in Iran.
I mean, I can't make this up.
That was unthinkable two weeks ago.
I mean, two weeks ago, it was like Trump demanding that Iran offer an unconditional surrender.
And then after we bomb Iran and supposedly destroy their entire nuclear program, wink, wink, then Trump says, or at least his people say, hey, how about we help you rebuild your domestic nuclear energy program?
And we'll throw in $30 billion to help you get that done.
What do you say?
Again, totally unthinkable, but more proof that Trump and Iran are, in fact, cooperating.
It's very clear.
Doesn't mean it's going to last more than another month.
I mean, you never know these days, but that is what's happening.
Now, and then we had other breaking news, at least it was claimed out of the Tehran Times, and I do have a special report on this, that there was an Israeli-led false flag attempt in the United States to set off some kind of explosive detonation somewhere to be blamed on Iran in order to drag the U.S. back into the war.
So we'll talk about that coming up.
And you may recall that's exactly what my guest, Michael Jan, predicted now, what, two days ago.
Actually, I recorded that three days ago.
So that's just a little bit of a highlight of what's coming up here.
There's a lot more news that's highly relevant here as well.
So I want to jump into that.
Iran has announced that it is ending cooperation with the UN nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, International Atomic Energy Agency.
Now, this is also something that I predicted, what, Sunday or Monday, maybe Monday.
So once again, I'm always bringing you the news days or sometimes weeks ahead of mainstream reporting.
And just to review my prediction, what I said is that Iran will cut ties with the IAEA and Iran will pursue domestic nuclear weapons production.
And at the same time, Iran will be, well, it will borrow or it will buy nuclear weapons from friendly nations, possibly, well, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia, or China.
And then it will mount those weapons onto its own very capable ballistic missile technology systems, which have already now been well demonstrated to defeat Israel's Iron Dome, obviously.
And then Iran is going to announce, I believe, possibly within a few weeks or a few months, they're going to announce that we are a nuclear-armed nation.
And at the same time, they're going to rapidly pursue the final stages of uranium enrichment to take it from 60% to whatever the final number is.
I forgot.
I don't know if it's 95% or whatever.
And remember that 60%, the enrichment curve is not linear.
So 60% enrichment is actually closer to like 95% of the way to the finish line.
Just in case you're tracking that.
It only takes a little bit more to turn it into weapons-grade uranium.
And you can bet that Iran has that capability.
So we're going to be seeing in the very near future, you know, this year, we're going to see Iran announcing nuclear weapons and Iran pursuing nuclear weapons development to build up its nuclear stockpiles.
And this is probably why so many of the Gulf states are desperate to rapidly announce some kind of deal.
There was, you know, some kind of peace accord that was announced yesterday that's not really very good for Palestine, not really good for Hamas.
You know, it would basically put Gaza under the control of four Arab states, none of which actually stood up for Gaza.
So I don't think that the Palestinians are really going to go along with this.
And it basically codifies Israel's control over the region.
So I don't think that deal is going to last if it's even signed.
So that's just more noise.
The real thing that's happening is Iran is becoming a nuclear-capable country.
Now, here's what else we have.
Iran's own people have announced that the bombing caused extensive damage in Iran.
That yes, oh my God, it wiped out most of our nuclear capabilities.
But the Europeans, and this story comes out of thecradle.co, European Intel says Iran's enriched uranium survived U.S. attacks.
Preliminary intelligence reports contradict President Trump's claim that U.S. strikes obliterated Iran's nuclear program June 26, 2025.
So this assessment was forwarded to the Financial Times, which has ties to MI6, and it's been part of the anti-Trump agenda on and off.
Well, I guess, I mean, every publication has ties to MI6 if it's a big, you know, corporate publication, probably, you know, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, everything else too.
So that's not saying anything so different about the Financial Times.
But what I want you to understand is that this is yet more confirmation Of the actual what I'm calling geopolitical judo that is shaping up here.
And let me restate this in case you've missed some of my recent podcasts.
So the factions here are the British with MI6 working with Mossad and Netanyahu.
That's the faction on one side which wants chaos, they want war, and they need more aggression and conflict in order to achieve their goals.
On the other side of this, at least for now, is Trump, Marco Rubio, the USA, and Iran.
And some other countries, obviously, you know, Russia, et cetera, but they're not directly involved in this.
Now, after the B-2 bunker buster bombing of the Fordo nuclear enrichment facility under the mountain, a bombing that it has become obvious did not destroy much.
But as I've said, Trump has been telling a noble lie.
The noble lie is to claim that it destroyed everything as a means for de-escalation and as a means to force Netanyahu to swallow the bitter pill of having won.
You see, the best way to get a violent country to stop attacking its neighbors is to force it into a position where it has to admit victory, not defeat, but victory.
That's what Trump has done.
That's the genius of his move right now.
And so Iran is also playing along with this.
Iran is telling the same noble lie.
Yeah, all of our stuff was destroyed.
We got wiped out.
But the British are saying no, no, no, it wasn't destroyed at all.
And Netanyahu and all of his factions in Israel are saying, no, it wasn't destroyed.
This is not over.
You know, we haven't won.
So that's what's actually happening right now.
So Trump and Rubio and Iran want to de-escalate in order to announce that.
You've got to be able to say it's victory.
And Steve Bannon is on board with that agenda.
And Steve Bannon and also Breitbart and even Fox News are all claiming that all the nuclear material has been either destroyed or the capabilities have been completely destroyed.
And then J.D. Vance throws in an extra one like, yeah, and we destroyed all your ballistic missile launchers too, which of course did not happen.
But hey, you know, it's like Noble Lie 2.0.
They're just kind of embellishing it now.
Yeah.
And we made all your sidewalks crack.
You know, I mean, they're just throwing stuff in.
So what's actually happening right now is that both Israel and Iran are rearming as quickly as possible.
Neither one of them actually believes there's going to be a ceasefire for very long.
What Iran is doing is bringing in Russian specialists to set up more anti-air defense systems because Iran actually performed rather poorly in intercepting the inbound air-launched missiles.
Now, of course, the air-launched missiles don't carry as large of a payload as Iran's ground-launch ICBMs.
So that's why Israel took a lot more damage than Iran did.
But Iran needs to shore up its air defenses, obviously, from a military perspective.
So they're going to bring in Russians.
At the same time, Israel is going to be receiving daily flights from the U.S. of additional interceptor munitions and whatever else, probably JP-8 fuel, aircraft fuel, vehicle fuel, just any kind of military fuel that they need because, well, Israel has lost one of its main refineries because Iran, we say, blowed it up.
And so they can't refine much anymore.
And that made them realize how vulnerable they are, which is why it was Israel that begged for the ceasefire.
And if you look at the economic destruction that has happened in Israel, and this is actually the strategic war genius of Iran, was to realize that they really could not degrade Israel's military targets that easily.
And a lot of them are well protected or deep underground.
But what was right on the surface that could easily be struck and destroyed were key nodes of Israel's infrastructure.
And in addition, well, and that includes refineries, ports, airports, water desalination plants, power grid substations, finance buildings, all kinds of things like that.
At the same time, Iran realized that they could bleed Israel economically just by exchanging missiles every day.
So this becomes an economic war of attrition, which is kind of interesting because Russia and Ukraine, or I should say Russia versus NATO, was involved in the same kind of economic or industrial warfare of attrition.
And Russia proved that it could out-produce and outlast all of NATO.
And that's why Russia is obviously winning that conflict and will win.
And Russia will eventually determine the terms of surrender of Ukraine, which might be called, you know, a peace accord or a treaty or whatever, but it's surrender.
Okay.
Now with Iran and Israel, do you realize that every single day that Israel was firing these interceptor missiles, it was costing them over $700 million a day?
That's just in military costs.
That doesn't even cover the economic damage, the buildings that were destroyed, the loss of tax revenue, for example, the loss of import-export revenue because the port of Haifa is unusable or largely unusable.
The fact that shipping companies like Maersk said, we're not even going to sail there anymore.
And Maersk is a big supporter of Israel.
So, you know, that's huge.
Then we've got the fact that at least many hundreds of thousands of Israelis have fled the country.
And ultimately, it will probably end up being something like 20 to 25% of the entire population will flee at one time.
Now, some of those will come back, obviously, but many of them will flee.
And a lot of the productive class, the younger Israelis, you know, in their 20s and 30s who are very productive, many of them have been caught up as reservists in the conflict.
So that's taking more money out of their economy as well.
And this is why Israel's credit ratings have been slashed to near-junk status.
So that's why Israel had to beg Trump to stop the war, because Israel couldn't continue economically.
It wasn't about its military capabilities.
Its military is very much intact.
It's the economic impact.
And that's the weak link of Israel.
Because think about it.
Right now, Ukraine is basically propped up by the West.
If it wasn't for all this billions of dollars from America, Ukraine couldn't pay salaries and pensions of government workers or even educators.
Ukraine would literally collapse overnight if it wasn't for this money from the U.S. And Israel is not at that point yet, but it's getting there.
So if this missile competition, if this restarts, and it probably will, there's already been a drone attack, an assassination attempt in Tehran that is believed to have been carried out by Israel.
So of course Israel has never met a ceasefire that it didn't want to violate as quickly as possible.
But the bottom line is if this restarts, Israel is going to be very rapidly, economically hobbled.
And there's one more factor here, and that's the investors and the insurance companies.
So the reason ships cannot sail to ports in and out of Israel is not because they can't physically do it.
It's because no insurer will insure them for that trip.
And since those shipping companies don't want to cover the total loss of a ship being destroyed in the port, they don't sail there.
So it's the insurers and the insurers assess risk.
That's the business they're in, right?
It's risk assessment and actually pricing risk with a little bit of a premium.
So they're pricing risk into the equation right now, which means they're pricing the transportation companies out of shipping to and from Israel.
So that's an insurance issue.
The other important factor here is investment money.
So even though there are a lot of high-tech Western companies that have made pretty big investments in Israel, that includes like Microsoft and pharmaceutical companies, big tech, et cetera, there's nobody in their right mind that wants to invest money in Israel right now.
And when Iran obtains nuclear weapons, there will be a massive capital flight out of Israel.
I mean, would you want to be an investor in a country that might get nuked?
A country that has actually initiated war and surprise attacks and assassinations against another country that just acquired nukes?
No, you don't want to invest in Israel at that point.
You probably don't want to live there either.
You don't want to do business with it.
You don't want to ship things to or from Israel because you never know if it's going to show up or if it's going to get nuked.
So Israel is economically in dire straits right now.
On top of that, Netanyahu himself is very likely on his last few months of staying in power.
Now, he has politically demonstrated that he's got the nine lives of a cat, so maybe he can pull off something again.
He is incredibly gifted at that.
But, you know, he's going to be on trial for corruption.
The ICC wants him for war crimes.
He's made a lot of domestic enemies, and with the economic destruction that's underway in Israel, he's made even more enemies.
And a lot of people want Netanyahu out of power.
And of course, he's facing charges of bribery and fraud and things like that.
And of course, he altered the judiciary.
I don't know what the proper name is, you know, the Israeli Supreme Court or something.
I don't know their whole system there.
But he altered the laws to protect himself so that he would be more prosecution-proof.
And yet, even that's not going to be enough to protect him in the end.
And Trump sees that Netanyahu is actually weak.
And Trump realizes, at least this is my interpretation, that he's got an opportunity to replace Netanyahu, get him out of power, and put in somebody else who is much more friendly to the U.S. and much less friendly to the British.
So Trump is basically trying to occupy the leadership of Israel.
This doesn't mean that Trump is anti-Israel.
He's not.
Just because he's working with Iran doesn't mean he's anti-Israel.
Trump is pro-Israel.
He's pro-Zionist.
But he wants to control Israel.
And that means getting rid of Netanyahu.
And that's why Trump tweeted out that whole thing about what a hero Netanyahu is.
He's this awesome person.
And the trial, he should be pardoned and all that.
That was a very clever tactic to tie himself to Netanyahu, knowing that the Israeli people see Trump as more and more their enemy now, because Trump declared that the war is over.
And that's not what the Israeli people want.
But by tying himself to Netanyahu, he makes Netanyahu less popular and more likely to be replaced.
And there's more to this, but that's just kind of a surface overview right there.
So it's very interesting to me that every single day, more information comes out that confirms that this is the case.
Now, for the record, it doesn't mean that this won't change tomorrow.
And I do believe that the kinetic attacks between Israel and Iran are going to restart at some point here.
It might be days, it might be weeks.
If we're lucky, it might be months.
But it will happen because Israel cannot function.
It cannot even really exist as a state without waging endless war.
It depends on war as the key narrative of its own self-victimization.
You know, the Israelis are still invoking the Holocaust from World War II.
They still see themselves as the victims, even as they are bombing to death women and children in Palestine.
Even as they shoot tank rounds at innocent people who are gathering at food aid trucks to try to get food because they're starving to death, Israel sends in tanks, fires tank rounds at civilians who are unarmed and starving.
And they do that every day.
They do it every single day.
The whole food aid program is really just a tank targeting program.
That's the way Israel operates.
And they can't function with peace.
They cannot.
They need incessant war in order to survive.
So Israel will never agree to peace long term.
They may do it in the short run for political reasons or alliance reasons with Trump's support, but they won't do it long term.
And that's why Israeli operatives are in the United States right now working to carry out false flag attacks, mass bombings, radiological attacks, who knows, dirty bombs, freaking VX nerve gas.
It's funny, I told you the other day I was watching the old 24 with Kiefer Sutherland that I think started, it came out in 2002.
And I'm watching the seasons as I do my nightly rolling and stretching and some kind of like Pilates on a mat and stuff like that, just basic self-care.
And I just turn on 24, you know, because I've got the DVDs.
And yes, I still have a DVD player because a DVD player can't spy on you.
And it doesn't need the internet to work.
So I'm watching 24 on DVDs.
And it's like every episode from 2002, 2003, et cetera, every episode is almost exactly what's happening in our world right now.
I mean, every season is another thing that's in the news.
And guess what's in season four of 24?
VX nerve gas attacks.
And guess what the name of the company is in season four of 24?
The name of the company that produced the VX nerve gas that was sold to terrorists to poison people in America.
The name of the company?
Omicron.
Right.
Omicron.
Which, of course, we heard during COVID.
That was one of the COVID strains that was also a bioweapon produced by the Department of Defense, right?
So it's fascinating to me that the old show of 24 is almost a documentary of things to come.
You know, season one was about a nuclear detonation, right?
And, you know, every season is another, like I think it was season three that was all about a viral, a virus attack, you know, a pandemic.
And now I'm afraid of what season five is going to be all about because I think it'll be in the news next week, right now, in 2025.
So I've got some special reports for you here.
Also want to play for you my new song.
Well, I mean, it's a few days old.
I've played it for you once before.
It's called We're Running Out of Time or just Running Out of Time.
We've got the music video on that.
And I think a lot of people have really appreciated that song.
So I do want to play that music video for you.
But first, let me go to the first special report.
More proof that Trump and Iran are cooperating to counter Israel's dangerous reach.
And then we'll continue on the other side.
Well, I rolled out my analysis yesterday that stated that Trump was working with Iran to counter Israel and the British crown.
And, of course, got a lot of valuable feedback, some positive, some negative.
Some people couldn't believe it at all.
They're like, no, that's ridiculous.
Well, guess what just happened?
Guess what just came out?
And this is being reported by CNN at the moment.
So take it with a grain of salt.
Let's see if anybody else picks it up who's actually not a totally fake news media.
I suspect this story will have legs.
But CNN is reporting that the Trump administration is now cooperating with Iran to rebuild its nuclear program, its domestic nuclear energy program.
Yes, that the Trump administration is clearing the way for nuclear energy in Iran contingent upon no processing of uranium in the country of Iran.
In other words, Trump is saying we'll help you rebuild.
And oh, they're going to drop sanctions.
A lot of economic sanctions against Iran will be dropped so they can rebuild their nuclear program.
But they have to get their nuclear fuel from outside the country, probably Russia, for example.
So no centrifuge operations in the country of Iran would be allowed under this deal.
But it is astonishing.
It's being reported as a 180 that the Trump administration, which two weeks ago was demanding a total surrender of Iran, has since then publicly said, God bless Iran, publicly thanked Iran for cooperating with the de-escalation war theater that I call theater for Zionists.
Even that was also the Fordot bombing.
Trump has back-channeled with Iran or his administration has to orchestrate the bombing and the counterattack and then to declare victory, forcing Netanyahu and forcing Israel into swallowing the Bitter pill of victory when actually Iran's nuclear material is nowhere to be found.
400 kilograms of highly enriched uranium, I think it's at the 60% level, is nowhere to be found.
And I don't know if you know this, but the 60% level of enrichment doesn't mean that only 60% of the enrichment work is complete.
It's actually something, I don't know the exact number, but it's more like 95% of the enrichment is complete when the actual density reaches 60%.
To go from 60% to like 95% or whatever is necessary for criticality in a detonation, that gap doesn't require much work at all.
So Iran is right on the verge of being able to produce nuclear weapons.
In any case, nobody knows where the fuel is.
It clearly wasn't destroyed.
And I think I saw Senator Lindsey Graham or Flimsey Graham saying that it doesn't matter where it is.
That wasn't one of our targets.
Like, what?
I thought you said you were targeting the entire nuclear weapons program and that you obliterated it, blah, blah, blah.
But now there's all this other information that supports the notion that I've been talking about, which is that Trump and Iran were working together.
And they are working together to counterbalance the British crown, which runs Israel as its proxy state through MI6 and Mossad.
And Trump realizes that the only way for the United States to win in this region is to defeat the British control over Israel.
It doesn't mean to destroy Israel.
I don't think Trump wants to destroy Israel.
I think Trump wants to replace Netanyahu, get the British deep state out of the way, and counterbalance Israel by allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.
And that would stop Israel's violence and aggression in the region, and it would allow Trump to focus on the economic policies and to bring down the price of oil and energy and to actually do trade deals, which is the long-term route for economic prosperity for America.
And the only way to get there is to stop Israel's insane lunatic genocide war campaigns.
So how do you do that?
You got to give Iran nukes, or I shouldn't say give them, but allow them to have nukes.
And that's exactly the path that we're on here.
So as Iran is rebuilding nuclear power plants and nuclear facilities, Trump's going to be giving it the thumbs up.
Say, oh, yeah, this is all part of our way to help Iran rebuild itself because they fought bravely and God bless Iran.
I mean, these are things that Trump is saying right now.
And I understand there's a lot of resistance to this because Americans have been trained this entire time to really hate Iran.
The Iranian regime has been depicted in a very negative light, mostly by Jews who are screenwriters in Hollywood and movies and TV and whatever shows.
It's all depicted Iran as a bunch of crazed, insane lunatics.
And that's actually projection.
Every accusation is a confession when it comes to Zionists.
They're actually doing what they claim Iran is doing.
So keep that in mind in all of this.
But the bottom line is that Trump is going to remove economic sanctions on Iran, probably not all of them, but major ones.
And in addition to that, Trump has offered, I mean, this has become clear, Trump has offered China guarantees that he will not interfere with Iran's exporting of oil to China, which China needs desperately in order to power its industrial economy.
And I believe that was in exchange for China allowing certain U.S. companies, such as auto manufacturers, to continue to import rare earth minerals that they need for vehicles, electric vehicles, especially, because of the neodymium rare earth, which is used in magnets.
Remember, it was just a couple of weeks ago that Ford had to temporarily shut down its production lines in America.
Not all of them, but I think it was, if I recall, it was in two or three facilities because they had run out of neodymium magnets from China because of the tariff wars.
So Ford went to the White House and said, you got to get us neodymium magnets or we can't make cars.
And, you know, there goes the whole auto sector.
So Trump went to China or Witkoff or whoever went to China and said, you know, what's it going to take for you to give us rare earth metals or minerals, magnets?
And no doubt, China said you've got to protect our oil supply from Iran.
I mean, this is my assessment, okay?
I'm just giving you a good faith, honest assessment as best I can.
I don't have 100% certainty in this, but it seems to fit the data that we're seeing so far.
So then I'm guessing that China and Iran spoke and China probably told Iran, hey, this is what's coming.
You know, the White House is going to cooperate with you.
We're going to pull off some more theater.
And in the end, you just got to make sure that you don't close the Strait of Hormuz.
Got to make sure that China gets its oil.
And then Trump and Iran pulled off the theater for Zionists that we just saw recently in the last few days over the weekend.
And then here we are now where the oil is flowing and oil prices have fallen again, which is good for Trump.
And it's good for China and it's good for Iran.
And you know who it's not good for?
Israel.
So once again, everywhere I turn right now, every announcement, like every piece of news confirms this theory that I've stumbled into for the last, what, four days or so that it's becoming stronger and stronger, this realization that Trump is working with Iran.
He's dropping the sanctions, helping Iran rebuild nuclear facilities, carried out war theater with Iran, dropped bunker busters that didn't destroy really anything.
You know, there's no big effort to try to hunt down Iran's 400 kilograms of uranium that's 60% purified.
I mean, come on, do the math on this.
You start connecting these dots and it becomes very apparent.
And I've since realized I'm not the only one with this theory.
I've seen a couple other accounts on X that are talking about the exact same thing.
And they're talking about the British crown, just as I'm talking about.
I mean, maybe we're looking at the same news sources or something.
I don't know.
But, oh, and then I even heard Jay Dyer with Alex Jones talking about how it's the British crown that has been using Islam all these years and also, you know, of course, through Israel and through Zionism to try to re-exert its globalist control.
The British Empire wants to be a global empire again, as it once was.
And the way to do that is to work through Mossad and to work through various Islamic organizations like ISIS and others to try to maintain chaos in the Middle East.
So by Trump working to de-escalate the violence and to stop Israel from carrying out more violence, Trump is taking away from the British crown their number one tool, which is chaos and war.
Trump is trying to bring us to peace and trade instead of chaos and war.
And from what I can tell, this is actually being expertly executed.
So I'll have a lot more analysis coming up.
I've got other great guests to talk to about this, other analysts and so on.
But I do want to tell you, as always, you know, I don't insist that you agree with me on this.
I'm exploring this just as you are.
I'm frankly shocked that I've arrived at this conclusion because a week ago, I had a completely opposite conclusion.
But a lot has changed since then.
A lot of new information has come out since then.
But a week ago, I thought for sure that Trump was totally controlled by the Zionists and Trump was going to wage World War III and take us into a horrific land war with Iran and all of that.
Those were some of my concerns.
And now I see based on Trump's actions and what happened over the weekend and the theater, the war theater, and now dropping sanctions and now helping Iran with its nuclear program.
I can see that a week ago, even though my conclusion was actually consistent with the public information available at that time, I have to change my conclusion.
Now I realize that Trump is actually pulling off some kind of, well, people call it 5D chess or I call it geopolitical judo.
He's flipping Netanyahu on his ass.
And in fact, Trump is flipping the script in a lot of ways right now.
And I've always said I'll give Trump credit when he's doing something genius.
And so far, this looks like diplomatic genius.
But I'll also criticize Trump if I see that he's selling out or making mistakes or whatever.
I mean, it's an open, fair game for analysis and criticism.
And what's weird is there's a camp of people who always hate Trump, no matter what, and then they criticize me when I say something, when I give Trump credit for something good.
And then there's another camp that always loves Trump.
You know, it's the Church of Trump.
And then they criticize me if I criticize Trump.
Well, folks, I'm not in a camp.
I'm not part of a tribe.
I engage in independent, honest analysis as best I can.
And I am not loyal to any human being.
I am loyal to principles.
And if Trump's aligned with those principles, I will give him applause.
If he is contradicting those principles, then I will criticize him.
And that's the way I am.
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All right, welcome back.
As promised, I want to play the new song, a music video for you.
It's called We're Running Out of Time.
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But here's the running out of time music video that I felt was really critical to get out because of what's happening in the Middle East.
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She walked along the dusty road, shuffling away.
The bombs fell in the distance, echoing across the bay.
He pulled a broken child out of rubble with a prayer.
His spirits crushed the pain, too much for any man to bear.
If hatred is a weapon, then love keeps us alive.
And kindness feels like heaven.
Compassion makes us thrive.
If we can love each other, we survive together.
We can give one another a future that's better if we care for the other.
Let's make something better than the world we left behind.
We're running out of time, of time.
We're running out of time They fought the Western Corridor until their cause was lost.
The fences held until they fell at a catastrophic cost.
She holds a newborn baby in her arms till daylight breaks.
She feeds another precious soul with everything it takes.
If we can love each other, we survive together.
We can give one another a future that's better if we care for the other.
Let's make something better than the world we left behind.
We're running out of time, of time.
I'm running out of time
When we recognize ourselves in one another, when we make that small connection, blind can see.
When we feel our love reflected and hatred is rejected, we'll turn along a new reality.
If we can love each other, we survive together.
We can give one another a future that's better if we care for the other.
Let's make something better than the world we left behind.
We're running out of time of time.
We're running out of time.
It's all in our minds.
Time to get aligned.
Thinking we can find.
But we're running out of time of time.
We're running out of time We're running out of time
Well, it was just yesterday that I published the interview with Michael Young, who warned about the fact that the highest risk of extremism or terrorism domestically in the United States comes from radicalized Zionists, not radical Islam.
It's the Zionists that are now wanting to bomb America, as they say.
They're posting in Hebrew about their desire to nuke D.C., to kill Trump, to nuke New York City.
There have been calls by Jews for all Jews to evacuate New York City, probably because they know what's coming.
Now, if you missed my interview with Michael Yahn, it's posted on Brighteon.com and it's posted elsewhere, links to it across social media.
I've also got my channel on Rumble, which is Health Ranger Report or HRReport on Brighteon.com.
And Michael Yahn and I talked about this, how it's very clear that Israel wants to carry out a false flag attack in the United States in order to blame it on Iran and then to drag America back into the war.
And of course, Israel has a long history of doing this.
9-11, for example.
Who do you think was the expert in explosives that planted the demolition charges that brought down Building 7 and the Twin Towers?
Why were there dancing Israelis celebrating the towers coming down?
Why?
Because they knew that that would get Bush and the Deep State to declare war on all of Israel's enemies in the Middle East, which was at that time called the War on Terror.
And that's what America then went into, the War on Terror.
And for, what, 20 years, the military-industrial complex celebrated, and the deep state got to run its assassinations and bombings, and, you know, war generals got to pretend like they were the most important people on earth.
You know, it's one giant global satanic blood ritual sacrifice of humanity.
So they pulled that off.
That was Israel's doing because of, of course, the fact that Zionism is a satanic death cult.
And so, of course, they need blood rituals.
So they're trying to do it again.
And right now, Mint Press News and other organizations are reporting on a story that originally appeared in Tehran Times that said that an Israeli-run false flag Was stopped.
They were trying to bomb a target somewhere in America, but Iranian officials became aware of it, or maybe it was Iranian spies or something.
They warned the U.S. about this, and they were able to stop it.
And we don't know any more details than that.
We don't know what city was targeted.
We don't know what kind of explosives.
We don't know how it was stopped.
And no doubt this will be completely covered up from this point forward.
You won't see the FBI talking about it.
The DOJ won't talk about it because, of course, you know, they don't want to have Israel outed for running all kinds of false flag operations like the USS Liberty and many other operations.
9-11 isn't the only one either.
So there's going to be a massive cover-up here, but make no mistake.
I mean, literally the day that I published my Michael Yan interview, which was yesterday, even though I had interviewed him the day before, then yesterday this comes out from Tehran Times.
So once again, if you listen to my podcast and special reports, you're always ahead of the mainstream media.
You're always ahead.
Last Sunday, I reported, for example, just based on my own satellite analysis, I didn't need any experts to tell me that the U.S. bombing campaign did not destroy the Ford nuclear power facility.
And then there were other experts that also chimed in, such as Scott Ritter and many others, and they agree with that assessment.
Days later, the New York Times published a leaked or part of a leaked document from the Defense Intelligence Agency that had arrived at the same conclusion.
So once again, there, you know, if you were listening to my podcast, you knew days ahead of everybody else that the uranium was not destroyed.
Although this comment is not an anti-Trump comment, I actually give Trump credit for what I call the noble lie.
This is Trump's ploy to de-escalate the war to force the bitter pill into the throat of Netanyahu of forcing Netanyahu to announce victory by Trump claiming that we had completely obliterated Iran's nuclear program, which we didn't.
But again, it's a noble lie.
So I understand.
This was necessary to de-escalate.
My point is that if you listen to my podcast, you're going to get all these important events days before the New York Times or days before CNN, days before the Washington Post.
And also, be aware that if there's any big explosion that happens in the United States, you should be looking at Zionists as the most obvious culprit, even if they look Iranian or they're waving the flag of Iran.
I mean, total setup.
Just like the, what are they called?
That group of young men marching around.
They're all FBI agents and they wave like Nazi flags from time to time and they always wear masks.
What's that called?
Like American Front or something?
It's an FBI operation.
Totally FBI operation.
Still FBI.
Even under Bongino and Patel.
And Israel's intelligence services, Mossad and others, they are, I think, arguably the most capable intelligence services on the planet.
And they have infiltrated and recruited people of all the important nationalities.
If they wanted to run a terror team of, you know, Egyptians, they've got that.
Or Jordanians or Lebanese or Iraqis or Iranians or Chinese, anything.
They can run a terror team probably in any major nationality, even Russian, because they've infiltrated all this.
They've got the networks, they've got the payoffs, the bribes, the blackmail, the Epstein files, all that stuff.
So they can run any team they want.
So don't believe mainstream media when the media leaps to the conclusion, oh my God, we've been bombed by Iran.
Nope.
I mean, I suppose that's possible.
But if it's just a little too obvious, a little too in your face, like, remember that one time they had that crazy guy?
This is a few years back, and then they, like, they caught him, and then they found his white van, and his van was covered with InfoWars stickers and things like that.
And his web browser history was visiting InfoWars.
It was obviously a deep state attack on InfoWars.
The whole thing was a plant.
And Israel is much more sophisticated than the U.S. deep state.
So they can set up a very compelling situation that would be reported as a weaponized attack on America by Iran, but in reality, is actually Israel attacking America with another USS Liberty 2025 edition, basically, to blame it on Iran.
So watch out, folks.
We are now under Zionist attack in America.
And on top of that, it was widely reported now that that Zionist guy with the Jew tattoo on his neck went out, stalked, hunted down, crucified, and murdered a Christian pastor because he believed that the Christian pastor was evil for teaching about Christ as the Savior.
Because this is what a lot of Jews believe.
They think that Christ or people who worship Christ is evil.
And this guy had intended to hunt down and crucify and murder something like 10 or 12 Christian pastors.
He killed one and then he got caught and now he's confessed all of it in a horrifying video.
And, you know, here you go.
His Zionist violence against Christians, which makes me wonder why there are so many Christians that still support Zionism, just blindly support it.
No, the Zionists want you dead.
Okay.
Do you understand?
The Zionists don't care about anybody except themselves, and they don't want a world with Christians in it.
They want a world of nothing but Zionists.
That's what they're aiming for.
So be cautious, everybody.
Be prepared.
Thanks for listening.
I'm Mike Adams, naturalnews.com, brighteon.com.
Pray for peace, pray for safety, and pray for America.
Take care.
Welcome to part two of my interview with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, she joins me in studio here at Central Texas at thebrighteon.com studios to talk about her new book.
And also, we're going to talk about AI and medicine, the recent decision by Secretary Kennedy to wipe clean the 17-member ASIP CDC Advisory Board on vaccines and so much more.
Welcome, Dr. Tenpenny.
It's great to have you here in studio today.
It's so good to see you in person, Mike.
It's so great to be here.
Thank you.
It's awesome to have you here.
You know, it's just, it's been a long time since we've been together and you're always just a fun person to hang around.
People don't know that about you because you're so serious all the time.
Oh, that's good.
In your Zoom videos, you know.
But in person, you're just a blast to hang out with.
So thank you for being here.
We just recorded part one of this interview, covered a lot of important things there.
I want to encourage our audience to check out part one if you missed it.
But here in the second part, I want to start out with the AI question.
And I know you're skeptical of AI and rightly so.
And you know, we're about to release a free AI engine that's trained on material that includes our interviews.
Oh, wow.
So it's a completely different AI.
It's just days away from being released.
I was just looking at it this morning.
I got to check off a couple of check boxes and then it's done.
But what's your take on AI's role in medicine?
Oh, also, Makari of the FDA and Secretary Kennedy and others have talked about bringing in a lot of AI automation into their agencies.
So give us your big picture take on AI and what's happening.
Oh, that's like a three-part question.
I know.
Sorry.
I'll probably add a fourth part on pretty soon here.
I think that AI is in its infancy.
I think that it has a, you know, if you think about it, somebody explained it to me a few months ago.
They said, when you start working with your AI tool, think about it as like a seven-year-old, that it really needs very explicit instructions.
True.
It wants to please, but it needs very explicit instructions.
And I just know from my own personal experience of use, I use AI kind of as an editor, or if I want to come up with a quick facts, like make me a list of, you know, something like that.
It's like a research tool.
Yeah, it's a research tool.
And it's easier to use and more, has more answers than Google does now.
Absolutely.
And so, but I've also, it makes errors a lot.
And if you don't know that that's an error to ask the question, like for example, I'll give you an example.
I wanted to list a complete list of all the vaccines that were on the pediatric schedule.
And I wanted to see what it was going to do.
And it made a mistake.
And so I said, you forgot COVID and the new RSV vaccines.
And there was one other thing.
And then it's so creepy because then AI apologizes to you.
It says, I'm so sorry.
You're absolutely right.
Let me go look again.
And after when I finished my book, because I had used sections, I'd use put like I write a section and then I put it into AI to edit it or to make it stronger or whatever.
And then so after it was all done, I said, that's it, I'm done.
Then AI gives me the message saying, thank you for the opportunity to help you with your book.
I hope it's really successful.
Please keep me in mind if you need to use me again in the future.
And it was like creepy.
And so there it's that's just fine-tuning behavior.
Yeah, but it's still it's creepy because it's just a software.
It's not like you're talking to somebody.
So I guess I'm saying that to say that there's a lot of early adaptations to AI to be able to roll it into a complex system like diagnosing human beings and the subtleties that go into being able to diagnose appropriately.
Like when you're talking to someone and you see a facial inflection or a tone of their voice and you see a shift of body language, AI isn't going to be able to pick that up.
At least not the way it is right now.
Well, I would say that AI is really great at pattern recognition.
So diagnosing, you know, or let's say analyzing chest x-rays, right?
Or even looking at blood work and then forming conclusions based on inputs of symptoms.
I think AI will be very good at diagnosis, actually.
But where it's bad is fact-checking, like you said.
And a good way to understand this is, you know how visually the AI image generators, you know how they'll generate people who always have six fingers?
Have you seen examples of that?
Yeah.
It's like, because the AI is like, well, it's pretty much looks like a bunch of fingers.
But it's fact check-wise, it's got too many fingers.
Well, it does that with your vaccine list.
It's like, yeah, this list pretty much looks like vaccine list.
It might have six fingers, you know, in terms of the text.
That's the way AI works.
And it generates images that have the vibe of the prompt, but may not actually make sense rationally.
And I'm worried about things like, and you know, we did an interview with you and we did our little AI course about AI in healthcare a while back.
And so we did a course, and that's available at learningforyou.org if you want to see what our take was on that.
And there was concerns about, you know, and like I said, the subtleties of medicine, if you're talking to somebody, say you're depressed or you'd had a bad day or something like that, maybe you just walked into the pod, into like the doctor's office, and you just had a raging argument with your spouse and you're like really mad and you're just like blowing off steam.
And the AI interprets you as having anger issues and that you need to see an anger management where you're really depressed and you're really, you know, things have been a hard week.
And they put things into your record about depression and maybe you've got government clearances or you're a pilot or something like that.
And they put that into your record.
And then how do you get that out?
And with this new, you know, big, beautiful bill, if that gets passed and they said that you're not allowed to question any AI interpretation for 10 years, you know, I mean, if that happens and AI puts something incorrectly into your medical record, maybe an incorrect diagnosis or interpretation, and you're not allowed to challenge it, then what?
One more reason not to visit doctors, whether they're human or AI, as far as I'm concerned.
It's like because they are.
They're surveilling you.
The current medical system is a surveillance system.
I agree.
But you're right that AI will help to automate that surveillance and gather more data points on people, and those data points can be used against you.
We just saw the sale of 23andMe.
Yep.
It was picked up by, is it a biotech company?
I believe so.
Purchased it, which purchases all the customer data.
And I've been telling people for years: don't send your spit to some corporation that you don't know what they're going to do with it.
They're going to use it against you.
Police have used that database to run unconstitutional searches on people's genetics.
And if it's a partial match, they show up at your door like, did you commit this murder?
Like, what are you talking about?
I spit into a vial, you know?
But this is just an example of what's to come.
And did you see recently that congressional hearing with the guy that's the CEO of 23andMe?
He said, we don't save any data.
And then Senator Holly puts up this thing that shows in their fine print that says, we reserve the right to maintain all of your data and your genetics, even if you cancel your account.
Did you see that one clip?
Well, I read about it.
I didn't.
It was like the guy was like sitting there like deer in a headlight.
I mean, what's he going to say?
He was caught lying to Congress.
That's the only thing they have of value is people's data.
That's what they're really selling is the data.
So anytime, you know, if you give a blood sample to a hospital, guess what?
You've just potentially given up all your privacy of what's in your blood.
And that blood sample can be retroactively analyzed, even with AI, to say, hey, maybe there were markers of drug use or intoxication.
This stuff can get you into trouble.
And it may not even be accurate because we've talked about AI errors.
But I want to ask you about prescribing drugs in particular and the replacement of human doctors with AI systems.
Because I've described human doctors, not all doctors, just to be clear.
I know many complimentary medicine doctors who are excellent people, very good at helping others.
But the mainstream pharma-funded pharma shills, I've described them as just elaborate vending machines for pharma.
That's easy to replace with AI.
What do you think?
Maybe.
And I say that maybe because the way AI is trained right now, it leans in the favor of pharmaceutical diagnosis and in the favor of the way physicians have allopathically been trained and not understand anything about root cause and things like that.
So it leans in that direction right now.
And so hopefully when Enoch comes out, that we'll have other training that will look at like root cause that, you know, I've said for years that if you go see a CPA, you expect them to know about taxes.
If you go see a lawyer, you expect them to know the law.
If you go see a doctor, they should be an expert in anatomy, physiology, and biochemistry, nutrition, and things like that.
And they're not.
They are an expert in an algorithm of defining and matching symptom with a pill.
So what I, here's my guess about where this is going in the future, is that your baseline health insurance offered by your employer or the government or whatever will not include visiting human doctors except in emergencies.
Instead, you will have a login session with an AI doctor that will diagnose you and prescribe drugs.
And that conversation will be, do you feel depressed today?
And if you're like, yeah, I feel a little down.
You need Zantex or whatever.
And like, that's what it's going to be.
It's going to be something straight out of idiocracy.
But it's not even going to be human.
And the drug companies will love this.
They will love it.
Because then they no longer have to spend all this money bribing doctors and giving them free vacations all over the place and visiting them with young sexy drug reps who are promising them to go to a rave party or something because that happens too.
So to get the doctors out of the way, the drug companies are like, we could just have AI doctors prescribing drugs for everybody all the time.
That's another dream come true for big pharma.
Prescribing drugs and vaccines.
Absolutely.
You know, because there are more than 500 mRNA vaccines in the developmental pipeline.
Is that right?
I've been told that, and I have seen evidence of that.
And so, you know, it's a vaccine not only for every pathogen that's out there, but also for things like periodontal disease and high cholesterol.
And those are vaccines that are in the pipeline.
And the edible vaccines that are in the pipeline that I've been watching this for probably 15 years because they've had trouble with it.
Because part of it is, let's say that they create a head of lettuce that grows up and it has hepatitis B vaccine in it.
Well, how do you dose that?
And maybe you're the person that eats a salad every day for lunch.
How many doses of hepatitis B vaccine do you get?
I mean, it's just absolutely insanity.
And it's a vaccination nation.
There's even a book by that name.
And that we just really are going to be pushing people into vaccine passports, because they want everybody inoculated.
And the real military definition of the word inoculation is to inject with the intent to harm.
And so that goes way back into the literature.
And so it's difficult to find, but it's there and I've read it.
But it's so ridiculous how they push vaccines for everything under the sun.
How much you want to bet if they rolled out a climate change vaccine, people would line up and take that.
Yeah, even though it makes no sense.
Even if it cut down their burps and farts, right?
So they're not contributing to global warming.
Like the pills that they were giving cows to cut down on the methane production that was making the cows very, very sick because that's part of the digestive process of all the stomachs of a cow.
It's just terrible.
But they, you know, the pandemic psyop continues with, oh, there's a new strain of COVID now.
There's another bird flu.
There's this and that.
So let me ask you this question.
Many people in our movement Question the assumptions of virology itself, right?
That you can isolate viruses that are monolithic particles from this sick person.
You can isolate them, put them under a microscope that we have right here.
You can see them, they all look the same, and then you introduce those to another person.
It makes that person sick with the same symptoms as the first person.
My understanding is that that hasn't actually been shown to be the case.
That's a section that I write in the book.
I write about that because if I'm going to write a whole book about bird flu and adjuvants and vaccines and things like that, I better put in there what my take about that is.
And there's four parts of that that I go into in the book.
And the main thing that what you just described is something called the Cox postulates.
Now, I found a research, and you mentioned how deep I go back in the research.
These are articles that were written in the 1930s that were talking about that Cox postulates came about to be, were meant to apply to bacterial infections.
Well, that makes sense.
And that they were devised in the late 1800s pre-identification of viruses.
And that things like viruses and prions and things like that don't follow the Cox postulates.
And the conclusion to that, and what I write about in that section, there's four parts of it.
This is just part one, is that the Cox postulates were meant to be guidelines, not absolutes.
And they've had to modify some of the Cox postulates because one of the postulates is that this, whatever's making people sick is only found in sick people.
But then when they found cholera and typhoid and carriers, you know, the people that can be carriers and things like that, it doesn't really apply.
And then I talk about the fact that there are big viral infections that have wiped out entire crops.
And this was before EMF and before, you know, all these things.
People are like, to me, kind of like pulling things like sunspots and things like that out into thing.
And you look at some of the epidemics that happened back in the 1600s and all these different things.
And so I write about that pretty extensively that, you know, there's, I think, the bottom line of what I think is that I think that I believe viruses exist.
I believe that there's a lot of things that cause illness that are not viruses that we label as viruses.
Oh, that's interesting.
That we call, you know, things like EMFs and those sorts of things that make people sick.
5G, you know, all that stuff that can make people sick or other toxicities in the environment in our water that we say, and then we get gastroenteritis.
We say, well, we had a stomach virus over the weekend.
Well, it wasn't that.
It was something that you ate or something that some chemical or something that you came in contact with.
So I think there's a lot of things that we call viruses that aren't, that have been around for a long time.
I think that there are viruses that exist.
And I talk about a big fish epidemic and different things in the book.
And I think that, you know, one of the cool things was, well, because you can't see it, it doesn't exist.
Well, 5G doesn't, you can't see that.
You can't see ultrasounds.
You can't see MRIs.
You can't see a lot of those things.
So, you know, that's kind of a problem.
And so I think that, in my opinion, and I'm, you know, I'm willing to listen, I'm willing to learn into kind of things, but I think that there's holes in the no virus argument.
And I also saw the other thing that I said is like, you know, they say, well, you can't take like, you know, a sick person and take their mucus and put it onto somebody else and make them sick.
Well, has anybody really analyzed mucus?
It's got white blood cells and cytokines and all that stuff that may have neutralized the effect of that pathogen.
And so it doesn't really have any reproductive things or ability to make people sick.
So if you're taking it already in that goo and trying to make somebody sick from it, but it's been neutralized in the goo of the mucus and all that sort of thing.
And so that's really interesting.
And I've often wondered about when people have pneumonia, you know, and they're coughing up all this stuff.
The only thing that we look at is that mucus that comes out is we're looking to scram stain it to see if it's a bacterial infection or we call it a viral or something like that.
Why don't we look at it to see what kind of chemicals and heavy metals and all this stuff that your body is working to expel?
We don't test it for any of that.
That is really interesting.
That reminds me of, but one of the things, and I'm really glad we're having this discussion, one of the things that I ran into as an ISO accredited laboratory is, and we can buy certified reference materials of almost anything, bacteria, fungi, single-celled organisms, or glyphosate, any herbicide, any heavy metal.
We can buy standards, certified reference materials or external standards, and we can see those standards on our instruments and we can see the concentrations.
You cannot buy a standard of SARS-CoV-2.
No such standard exists.
And the places that we normally go to to buy standards, some of them would offer what they call a standard, but it's a vial of goo.
And it's a vial of goo that they list that includes like bovine blood serum.
It's almost like a vaccine itself.
It's got different animal parts in it.
And then they say the original sample was collected from the snot of a woman who got off the plane from China in like 2020, and she was symptomatic.
And that's it.
So then they say this is a standard of SARS-CoV-2.
But it's all this other stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
So as a laboratory, how can I tell my instrument that here's a standard of something when I can't even buy a standard that is just this one thing?
Well, I've often wondered like a lot of people that make a lot of claims about, you know, take this product and it removes the spike protein from your body.
I want to ask you about that too, but go ahead, yeah.
Because to my knowledge, and maybe I'm wrong about this, but to my knowledge, there's no way, there's no blood, urine, saliva, stool test to measure spike protein.
And so if you can't get a test and say, I've got this much spike protein in my body, and I'm going to do this supplement, this IV therapy, this red light therapy, whatever it is, and then you retest it and you see that there's a difference.
How can you make claims that this product or this protocol lowers spike protein?
And particularly because spike protein supposedly buries into tissue and it can go into DNA and change your DNA.
So how can you say, you know, they sued him.
I want to see those tests change.
They sued Eric Naputi, you know, Dr. Eric Naputi for half a trillion dollars over making claims that zinc and vitamin D could support your immune system.
Yeah, that was insane.
They sued him.
But all of these companies out there with all of these products saying take this and this will lower your spike protein.
How do they know?
Well, I always have that question because I run a lab and I want to see the data on these things as well.
But the fact that I can't get a standard of the original virus, that's been a big clue for me that something is fishy about this.
I think you're right that there are it's way more complex than people make it.
There are multiple factors.
Sometimes it's called a virus when it isn't.
When it isn't.
And if you look at any of the taxonomy tables of viruses, you know, it's very complex and they talk about all the different parts of this and it goes on forever.
I mean, they're really, really long.
And I said in the book, I talk about that in the book, and I say, you know, that's an awful lot of detail on something that doesn't exist.
Well, you know, but humans invent incredible complexity about things.
Well, maybe, but there's all kinds of different vaccine or different viruses.
Fantasy football.
You've seen people playing fantasy football.
Plants and animals and fish.
Did you know, I did this for another book that I'm working on right now.
Did you know that there's 50 vaccines for fish?
No, I didn't know that.
50.
What if?
Wow.
What if instead of viruses, they're just doing protein sequences.
And of course, there's going to be trillions of different protein sequences.
Because that's all they're sequencing is proteins.
And then they call it a virus.
Well, you know, like I said, there are things that I think are causing people to be sick that we label as viruses that aren't.
And I think, you know, there are things that aren't viruses.
And then I think that there's something, maybe it's a protein, but there's a pathogen that goes out and makes people sick.
And people, you know, that have, say, Suzanne Humphries and I have had this conversation.
We know shedding can make people sick.
It can make people sick.
We know that, you know, if you're around somebody that's sick, then, you know, the next day you may have a scratchy throat and all these different things.
But there's another theory on that that I want to run by you here, which is a non-material, contagious, energetic explanation that might be a factor.
Like what we're doing with the xylitol in our microscope, we are getting extraordinary results that would blow your mind.
I'm not even going to bring it up here, but it's sketching out images that have to do with basically the way we prompt the universe, you could say.
And it sounds woo-woo, but it's not.
This is like the work of Dr. Emoto, where you can impact the formation of 3D structures.
We actually have video footage of it based on your consciousness.
And is it possible that there could be sick people who are sick consciously, spiritually, and physically, and maybe the physical manifestation is the last rendition of that sickness.
And then they energetically negatively cloud the people around them.
Is that a possible vector?
Sure.
I mean, why not?
I mean, I don't know either.
I don't know the answer, but why not?
And that's why, you know, when I write that section in the book, you know, at the end, I say, listen, I think there's a lot more to this than what we really know.
I'm open-minded enough to know that I'm going to assess new information.
But I think that, and the other thing is, why does this have to be such an absolutist?
True.
Why do we have to say it's black or white and there's nothing in between?
And there's this contentiousness.
And I've said that, I really think that it's another divisive thing inside of the health freedom movement.
Interesting.
Because either you're a no virus person or you are a virus person and the no virus people take you to task on the internet and beat you up and they're not nice about how stupid you are that you can't see that there's no such thing as a virus.
And it's like, can't we just respectfully disagree here?
Well, it's like the flat earth people do that a lot.
I noticed.
They're like, the earth is flat and you suck.
And I'm like, that's not a debate.
Yeah, it's true.
Same vernacular.
It's like, I've determined that I'm right and you're wrong and I'm going to make a big point about it.
Can't we just say, I'm open to the discussion, but we're just going to have to respectfully disagree on this.
Well, and we know you and I would both agree that there are engineered toxins like VX nerve gas.
Yeah.
Right.
And there are probably, you know, millions of engineered toxins that, and we've documented the whole history of the U.S. government releasing toxins on the people.
Right.
Sometimes they were strains of bacteria, like in San Francisco, I think that was Operation C-Spray in 1950, if I'm remembering correctly.
The serrations, Marsescin sort of thing that they sprayed.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
You remember that?
You are a researcher.
I tell you what.
But they did it on, it's not just Tuskegee.
They ran experiments on prisoners and they exposed people to all kinds of things.
And those things don't have to be viruses to be toxic, right?
They're just deadly chemicals.
Well, that's what I said.
Some people, you know, there's chemicals, there's EMFs, there's 5G, there's, you know, whatever they're spraying in the air, the chemtrails, all of the stuff that you're testing and looking at.
And growing the fog sort of stuff.
We feed it white sugar, by the way.
That's what we feed the strains of.
You know, like in Florida, the fog sort of particle sort of stuff.
And I think that's what you're looking at.
So there's a lot of things that people that don't listen to you or me or read anything that I write or anybody else writes, that they just say, well, I just, you know, I'm coughing.
I must have a virus, right?
So there's a lot of things that they call viruses that are not viruses.
Clearly.
And so that are really poisons and are really chemicals, are really irritants.
They cause cytokine problems and things like that.
But there are other evidence that shows that this pathogen exists and is passed along, and different, and it's not chemicals.
And it was long before these sort of things were long before they had EMFs and 5Gs and chemtrails and all this other stuff.
Well, I just noticed, and then we're going to move on beyond this topic, but this is a great conversation.
But I always notice every time they show us a picture of COVID, it's a bullshit 3D rendering that they made in a computer.
It's like, they never show us a picture of a pile of COVID under an electron microscope.
It's kind of like that kind of go along with the fact that the whole COVID, SARS-CoV-D was laboratory made from the first place?
That it was not anything found in nature, that, you know, the coronaviruses, they've been around supposedly since the 60s.
And that every year, about 35% of influenza-like illness is caused by coronaviruses.
Every year, it's been that way.
It's been documented for a long time.
I write about that too.
And then, but so this SARS-CoV-2 is a synthetically made something in a lab that has HIV as part of it, that has all these, you know, and it has the lipid nanoparticles and all this other stuff that's involved with it, and the cowblood.
And I actually saw a list the other day that actually showed particles from the fall armyworm, like when they make those bakloviruses, that there's proteins in SARS-CoV, in the COVID vaccine from these Swiss Armyworm things.
Yeah, I saw that.
Swiss armyworms.
You know, there's a flu shot that they make from that.
It's called flu block.
It's called flu block.
It's made from a baklovirus that's grown in a Swiss army, that's grown in an army worm.
Then they extract that and they put it into a flu shot.
It's called flu block.
Wow.
Okay.
One more reason not to take flu shots.
It's like sometimes when we ask what we think are common sense questions and then you get put down like it's some grand conspiracy.
Like I'm still asking the question, if a passenger jet hit the Pentagon on 9-11, where's all the luggage?
Where's the few?
Where's all the plane parts?
Because we've seen plane crash.
There should be like landing gear somewhere.
There should be luggage all over the place and maybe people's bodies all over the lawn of the Pentagon.
No, nothing.
No photos at all that show any plane parts.
And I just have those questions like, what's missing in this picture?
Something's missing.
All right, let's shift gears.
Let's talk about Secretary Kennedy.
Obviously, I mean, he's in a very tough spot.
Let's be serious because he's getting blasted by the whole pharma shill industry that hates anything he does that takes away their power.
But he's also getting blasted by the health freedom movement for not doing enough.
And I've been critical at times.
What's your overall take of what Secretary Kennedy is up to?
And is he doing a good job?
Just give us your take.
I think that he is moving the needle as far and as fast as he can, given the circumstances.
And those of us who are not part of politics don't understand how difficult it really is.
And we have no idea of the backroom deal and the conversations they have in the hall of the Senate going to the next meeting or what's happening with committees and stuff like that.
We aren't privy to any of that.
So we have no idea.
But we also know that we've known Bobby for a long time and that we know the books he's written.
We know we've heard him speak on stages with us.
We've had dinner with him.
We know what he knows.
He just went on a rant on Twitter two days ago about the mainstream media said, well, we found 250-some cases of placebo trials.
Well, just because it says the word placebo doesn't really mean it's a placebo.
So he went on this long rant on Twitter on X and showed like, let me tell you where you're wrong.
And so I think that, you know, he's got, you know, I pray for him every day.
I pray for his safety.
I mean, he's kind of got a family history of them taking people out that they don't really want to.
I pray for his safety.
I pray for wisdom.
And I know that, you know, he's walking along and every step he takes, he has to gingerly step down to make sure it's not a landmine.
I could not do his job.
No way, not a chance.
I wouldn't last a day in D.C. I could not.
You know, it was interesting because when he first was nominated, it was even before he was approved.
I had a lot of people come to me and say, if you got, you know, got the call, would you join, you know, the HHS or, you know, whatever.
I said, I don't know.
There's a lot of things to think about of whether or not I would do that.
And then I had somebody, a friend of mine, say, have asked me, have you ever worked in politics before?
I said, no.
And they said, it's a place unto itself.
It's got its own rules.
It's got its own rules that you have to abide by.
You have to smile and kiss butt on people.
You just as soon give them a left uppercut.
You can't do that.
You have to lie to get the things done that you have to do.
You have to have backroom deals.
And the person that told me this was a lawyer, was a friend of mine.
He said, because he had done some political things in the past.
He said, you may be more effective just continuing doing what you're doing and educating the people on vaccines are not safe.
They're not effective.
They're not necessary.
And every single one harms you at some cellular level.
It doesn't have to be overt.
You don't have to have anaphylaxis.
You don't have to have a seizure disorder.
You don't have to get cancer.
But every single one slices away at your health.
Absolutely.
No, I think you are more effective doing what you're doing now.
And there are many examples like Dan Bongino was doing great podcasts until he joined the FBI.
And then he can't talk about everything now because he's the deputy director, right?
So that actually took away an outside Voice and brought it into a system that's a lot less effective, I think.
Yeah, and that was one of the things if I ever, I doubtful.
I'm too loudly in the other direction and been doing it for too long.
But let's say, hypothetically, I get a call that says, you know, Secretary Kennedy would like to appoint you to this federal committee.
I would have to see the contract.
I would have to see if they're bringing me in to shut me up.
I would have to see, you know, like Bangino, he can't do his podcast now.
But does that mean in perpetuity?
I mean, after, after, sorry about that.
After he's done with being the assistant secretary, can he not go back to podcasting?
And so I would have to see what the contract is.
I'd have to see what the compensation is.
I have a house and a dog, and I'd have to see, you know, what sort of arrangements I'd have to make for all of those sorts of things.
So, I mean, there's a lot to think about.
It's not like you can just go, I'm in, and he goes sailing to Washington, D.C. No, I wouldn't move to D.C. no matter what, because it won't let me bring my Barrett 50 caliber rifles, you know?
It's like Texas is for me.
But now, Dr. Robert Malone has been nominated by Kennedy to replace one of the 17 ACIP board members, the advisory board for the CDC.
Dr. Malone then posted on X that immediately, or within a day or two, he was contacted by some group that wanted to pay him $450 an hour to consult on vaccine advisory decisions.
And he said he hung up on them.
But he was implying that this is an immediate effort to buy you off because he's now going to be in this position.
And that started just like that.
But what, I mean, you got to give, I want to ask you, what do you think about Dr. Malone as an advisory position there?
Of course, he's also a polarizing figure for a number of reasons.
But whatever you say, I admire the fact that he publicly mentioned this thing and that he rejected it, that he had the wisdom to reject it.
But, you know, I usually don't make this about other people, but if Malone is going to be in this public position, it's worth commenting on.
What's your take on that decision?
Well, there are three people that have, I guess, said yes, or at least they've been nominated.
And I don't know how ACIP works.
I mean, if Bobby says, I want you to be on the ACIP committee and you say yes, is that all there to it?
Or do they have to be approved by somebody?
How does that work?
I don't know how that works.
I don't know the approvals either.
I don't know how that works.
So there's three people that are.
It's not the Senate.
The Senate does not approve it.
One was the co-founder of the Barrington Declaration.
Yes.
And then Dr. Levy has been very loud against the COVID shots.
And Malone has been wishy-washy, in my opinion.
And the word that we got on the streets initially was, I need a bunch of names to pick from, and I don't want anybody that's been a vaccine advocate.
That came down from above.
And so there was a group of us that were kind of putting people together and names.
And I don't know what happened to any of that.
And then the next day, we get this list of at least eight people that have already been knighted or donned or whatever you want to say.
But there's still nine more positions to fill, right?
And then there's people outside of them.
There's like advisory people outside of them.
And I don't know if they're still going to be there or not.
They're the rabid pharmaceutical people whispering in your ear when you're on the committee.
So I guess I'm hopeful.
But I think, you know, and then there was a lot of discussion on X about, well, anybody that looks into vaccines, I mean, even if you start with just looking at the package inserts and you start reading what's in them, after you become informed from that sort of level, don't you become against vaccines?
Or do you think that it's okay for you to look at the water?
Oh, but I think it's all, I think gravity has taken effect.
Okay.
It's going to be fine.
Don't worry.
So, I mean, after you start looking into it, do you stay pro-vaccine?
Like, absolutely, I want all this stuff injected into kids.
You know, absolutely I want them to be injected with cowblood and chicken parts and polysorbate 80 and aluminum and all this stuff.
Absolutely.
I mean, so once you start, and does that assume you don't want any anti-vaccine people, but does that approve that anybody that's either neutral or pro-vaccine, they're going to be very valid in evaluating the data that comes out?
It's never happened so far.
What makes people think it's going to happen now?
Well, I mean, that's a good question.
And I've always operated on the principle that the reason I don't like to serve on committees is because the effective aggregate IQ of the committee as a whole is inversely proportional to the number of members on the committee.
So one person can be a genius.
17 people get really stupid very quickly.
I mean, that's just any committee, right?
And usually, you know, I'm not the kind of, I don't have the personality that works well on a committee anyway because I have very little tolerance for just bullshit and time wasting and whatever.
And obviously, I'm not going to rubber stamp anything.
And I've joked that if I were made secretary of HHS, I would only need one day in Washington because I would auction off the buildings and sell all the equipment and fire everybody and say, my job here is done.
And we'd be much better off as a country.
But that's not going to happen in reality.
So we're going to get the 17 member board.
Malone's on it.
You mentioned Levy and some others who are on it.
I don't recall all the names.
They're all going to be, they're going to be swamp tentacles wrapped around all their necks.
I mean, it's happening, like Malone said, trying to pay them off starting now.
How many people can resist?
Oh, hey, here's $50,000 a month.
We just need you to listen to our side, you know?
Or we need you to be a spy on what's actually happening.
Yeah.
Or, you know how Pharma operates.
Hey, we've got this blackmail on your family member, you know, compromising photos or records or whatever.
And, you know, it'd be a shame if something bad happened and went public.
You know, so we need you to hear our side.
That kind Of thing.
Happens all the time.
Yep.
So I don't really know what's going to happen to the rest of the people that are down there.
But I do think the first step of firing all 17 of those people was revolutionary.
And like you had said before, you know, pharma is just like a raging bull.
Like, how could that possibly be?
And now they're going to say the AMA is going to start investigating.
I laughed at that.
It was laughable.
I mean, the AMA, the last time I looked a few years ago, only had like 15% of doctors that had actually joined it.
And I don't even know.
They're probably either the older doctors that have just been part of it for a really long time.
They forgot to unsubscribe.
Yeah.
Forgot to unsubscribe.
Basically.
Exactly.
So, you know, they really haven't had any real teeth since Fishbein was in charge of it in the 50s, you know.
Fishbein.
Only you would bring up the name of that nefarious historical character.
You're exactly right.
But also, how about the Pediatric Society, too?
Well, the Obi-Gin, the ACOG, has just been rabid, like, what do you mean we can't give COVID shots to pregnant women?
You know, and they've just been like rabid about it.
And the pediatricians are like, kids are going to die.
No, you're killing kids every day.
That's right.
And so, you know, and so I think that Secretary Kennedy's moving forward his agenda as gently as judiciously, because think about it.
It's, you know, there's a really good friend of mine that's pretty popular.
I won't say his name.
And he said that he's been involved in politics and following political things for 40 years.
And he said, in 40 years, I'm sad to say, I've only seen it get worse.
It's just continually, a gradual downgrade.
He said, this is the first time that I have ever seen anything positive happening relatively quickly.
Now, we want all of this stuff to happen, like what you said, go down there and slash and burn and get rid of all the buildings and fire all the people and start over.
And, you know, we would love that because this is our industry that we've been doing for 20, 30 years.
So we've been doing this.
We know.
The rest of them don't know or they're paid off by pharma.
And so, or not only pharma, but big food, big ag, big chemical, you know, all these different things.
And so for them to even move the bar a little bit with these food colorings and food additives that should have never been in the food in the first place is a really good step.
Now, there's a lot of things that are like, in my opinion, the entire Trump administration.
Three steps forward, four steps back.
Four steps forward, three steps back.
Yeah, sometimes it feels that way.
And that's politics.
Okay.
So anyway, I'm sorry to interrupt there.
Not trying to distract you from what you're saying.
I agree with you.
Where we're going with all this, is anybody's guess, but let's end on this note, which is that you as the individual watching this, you can make your own policy.
You don't have to wait on Secretary Kennedy.
You don't have to have 17 board members tell you whether this vaccine is safe or not.
You can get Sherry's book and you can make your own decision to say no right now.
And the book is called Zero Accountability in a Failed System.
Here it is on Amazon.
Well, there is on my desk.
It's also available on Amazon.
Zero Accountability in a Failed System with a foreword written by Dr. Suzanne Humphrey is also one of our favorite people here as well.
But Sherry, isn't that true that just, you know, instead of people always putting authority into government, they could be their own decision maker right now and just say no now.
Yeah, it's really, it's really true.
If you really understand, and we actually have done courses on this, I've talked about it a lot, that vaccines are not safe, never been proven to be safe.
They're not effective.
The way we understand effective means prevention.
They don't prevent anything.
They are not necessary.
Look at all of the unvaccinated kids and how healthy they are.
They don't go to the doctor.
They're not on daily chronic medications.
They're not necessary.
And every single one of them cause harm.
And people always say to me, well, Dr. Tempen, isn't there like one vaccine that you would agree to?
And I said, the climate change vaccine.
Maybe the climate change vaccine.
Maybe one.
And it might be if you've been bitten by a rabbit animal, identified to be rabbit animal, the rabies series, which was always intended to be therapeutic vaccine, not prevention.
That might be the only thing that you can do to try to save your life because there's another virus that people say doesn't exist.
And how come if you, this animal is so sick and it bites you and you die from it?
And so that might be the only thing that might save your life is a therapeutic vaccine.
Other than that, not a one.
And people say, well, why not?
And I said, because a little poison is still poison.
If you are consistently poisoning children, we're doing a big thing.
Our membership this month, our Tenpenny Prime membership in the month of June is on bone health.
And so I've been doing some research into that and found that 60% of the aluminum that you get exposed to gets stored in your bones and 90% of the lead gets stored in your bones.
And so in order, so it really gets a lot stored in there in children because between the ages of zero, birth, and 18 years of age, if you get every dose of every vaccine, you will have almost 13,000 micrograms of aluminum injected into your body.
Now, if all of that gets stored up in your bones and also in your brain and causes problems with your kidneys, it's those repeated doses of all of those things that are causing a problem.
So it's like, you know, why would you want to inject stuff into your child that you really wouldn't even want to inject into the neighbor's cat that you hate?
You know, why would you do that?
Right.
And those injections bypass the normal protections of dietary fiber and skin and all that sort of thing.
Exactly.
So that aluminum is going to go into your body no matter what.
No matter what.
And, you know, aluminum toxicity, it's not talked about as often as, you know, mercury lead or cadmium, but I think it's tied to neurological problems.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, you know, Chris Axley determined all of that when he did the autisms on, or when he did the, not, not, yeah, the autopsy, autopsy reports on all of those autistic brains.
And he was given a set of autistic brains and he found all the aluminum tied up in all these neurofibrils and all this stuff inside of your brain.
And so all he's, you know, and after that, he got defunded and, you know, kicked out of his university and all these different things for showing that aluminum was causing all this neurofibril sort of dysfunction in sort of the brain.
So if it gets, so all of that repeated stuff leads to early dementia, ADD, ADHD, you know, all those different things, probably even seizure disorders and a lot of neurological problems.
Well, yeah, I was just thinking about seizure disorders because all that aluminum is conductive, of course.
Yeah.
So all the wiring that goes into commercial buildings now, when they're not using copper because of the cost, they use aluminum.
So it's all aluminum.
And when we use our mass spec instruments to examine the elemental composition of the fibrous clots that were being pulled out of people's bodies post-vaccine, guess what they contained?
Three conductive elements, the top two being aluminum and tin, which is used in soldering.
And in amalgams.
Tin is in amalgams.
Yes, exactly.
And then we compared it to human blood, and we found that the concentration of aluminum and tin, and also copper, another conductor, was much higher in the fibrous clot than what is found in blood itself.
Wow.
Which means that even though these fibrous clots exist in the blood passageways, you know, the arteries and so on, they were somehow concentrating these conductive elements in their own structure, which is, of course, is a kind of self-assembling structure.
That's not weird to say that.
I mean, fingernails are self-assembling.
Hair, you know, etc.
That's normal.
The liver is self-assembling, right?
But these fibrous clots were self-assembling and they contain conductive elements.
Wow.
I mean, high concentrations.
Anyway, we could go for hours, Sherry.
Yeah, there's so much interesting stuff.
But let me encourage people to get your book.
And I'm going to read your book and I'll learn a lot.
It's called Zero Accountability in a Failed System, How Big Pharma Weaponizes Vaccines, Public Health, and the Law.
And let me give out your website to, and it's drtenpenny.com.
Dr10penny.com.
My substack is drtenpenny.substack.com.
Perfect.
You can follow me on X at busy Dr. T, at Busy Dr T. And if you go to dr10penny.com, that little downward arrow at the end, it drops down.
It'll show you all the different social media things that we're on and all that sort of stuff.
Oh, okay, that's great.
Do you have people impersonating you online?
Oh, yeah.
I would have to hire two more full-time people that all they do is knock down.
You know, so if anybody listening gets any notification from me to buy this Bitcoin, it's not me.
Okay, it's not me.
Wait, you mean you have like crypto shells impersonating you?
Lots of them.
But you're not the crypto person.
I'm not the crypto person.
And so, I mean, I get text messages all the time from my friends.
I just got this message to buy this.
I don't think this is you, but I'm just checking on whether or not this is a fake account.
And so you can tell if it's a fake account really by on, like on X, I've got like over 200,000 followers.
And, you know, on any of the social media platforms that we have, we have a large number of followers.
So if you look at the number of followers and it's like 30 or 40 or 50, it's a fake account and it's not me.
That's great to know.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, and let me just wrap this up by saying how much I appreciate you and all your work.
And I've known you for so many years.
I'm a great admirer of your work.
And please keep doing what you're doing.
And even if on issues we don't always see eye to eye, or maybe with Secretary Kennedy, we don't see eye to eye, whatever, it doesn't matter.
The process that you follow of studying, learning, explaining, and sharing, that process is treasure.
Oh, thank you.
So keep it up.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
And thanks for coming out here today.
We really appreciate you and everything that you're doing.
And thank all of you for watching and supporting us here at BrightTown.com.
And again, get Dr. Tenpenny's book one more time.
It is zero accountability in a failed system.
Hey, is there an audiobook version of that available?
Not yet.
We're working on that, but it's not yet available.
It's only been out for maybe about eight weeks.
And so we're working on that.
Okay, are you, I'm just curious, are you going to hire a professional narrator or are you going to have, I've seen on Amazon they now have AI performed audio books.
And probably the pharma-slanted AI that's out there would refuse to read your book.
It would be like, refuse to read anti-vaccine books.
You know, you get some crazy robot voice.
Wow.
I don't know.
I know that people have said that because I have such a voice and I've been doing this for so long and people recognize my voice.
I mean, I can be at restaurants and having a conversation and somebody will say, people would mischievously creep around the table and start, oh, it is you.
It is Dr. Ted.
And so because they recognize my voice, because I've been doing this for 25 years and I do podcasts five days a week.
And so there's a lot of me out there.
I do interviews with people and stuff.
But I don't know that I'm going to read my own book because it takes a certain skill set to do that well.
It typically is not recommended.
But can I ask you about your voice and your pronunciation?
There's a North Dakota kind of tinge to some of your words or a northern Chicago type of pronunciation or something.
I've lived in Ohio my whole life.
It's Ohio?
That's where you've been from your whole life?
My whole life.
Why am I hearing like a little bit of a Fargo slant in it?
I have no idea.
I don't know.
Has anyone ever said that before?
They have not.
The only other place I've lived is I went to medical school in Missouri, but that was a long time ago.
That's just a Midwestern pronunciation.
That's my pronunciation is Midwestern.
I've lived in Ohio my whole life.
Interesting.
Okay, well, I don't know what I'm hearing, but maybe I have virus tinnitus and something's affecting my hearing, I'm going to have to detox with some concoction of some kind.
I don't know.
But anyway, thank you, Dr. Tenpenny.
It's always a pleasure.
Thank you so much, Mike.
It's been great.
Thank you so much.
Thank you all for listening today.
And if you missed it, be sure to check out part one of this interview, also posted on brighteon.com.
And of course, you know, Dr. Tenpenny and I, we always have a great time.
It's always a fun time.
You'll have fun and you'll learn a lot in both interviews.
So be sure to check them both out.
Thanks for watching today.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger of Brighteon.com and naturalnews.com.
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