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May 16, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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BBN, May 16, 2025 – OVERDUE – Arrest the traitors already! And 86 the COVID jabs!
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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News with Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Alright, welcome folks to Brighteon Broadcast News for Friday, May 16th, 2025.
I'm Mike Adams and thank you for joining me today.
So we have James Comey, the former treasonous FBI director, who posted a photo with seashells on a sandy beach arranged.
In a pattern to show 86-47, which of course is a thinly veiled call for the assassination of President Trump.
And it's no surprise that James Comey, who is part of the treasonous deep state, that he called for this and he's signaling the other people to take out Trump.
And James Comey should be arrested and he should be tried for treason.
And he should be subject to every available punishment if he is found guilty.
And I don't know, what are the punishments ordered by the courts for a person found guilty of treason?
I don't know, I guess there are a few of them, but James Comey should face that prosecution, clearly.
And there's a whole slew of other people.
And, you know, I'm going to say it's time for Trump's DOJ to, To stop pussyfooting around.
That's not a term I use a lot, but in this case it fits.
Stop pussyfooting around.
Arrest the traitors for God's sake.
It's time to arrest them.
And yeah, this is one of those moments where I'm also running out of patience because I know.
I know what happens.
There's just a delay game that's played for two years until the midterms and then four years until it's all over.
Then there's nothing.
You know, nothing gets done.
Nothing, really.
And we see a lot of people online cheering right now because RFK Jr., as head of HHS, he's saying, well, you know, the FDA and CDC, HHS, is going to stop recommending COVID vaccines for pregnant women and children soon.
And a lot of people online are applauding, like, this is some kind of great victory.
And look, I understand that it's something.
It's a step in the right direction.
And yeah, I've said before, RFK Jr., he's been dropped behind enemy lines, and he's operating in an impossible scenario.
I wouldn't wish that job on any human being.
It's just insane.
And yes, this little move is something, but it's not nearly enough.
Why can't we stop?
The mass vaccine slaughter of children.
Why can't we stop it?
Are we so far gone in our political system now that we can't stop maiming and murdering children at the rate of something like 25,000 children a day being injected with something and then some percentage of those being maimed and some smaller percentage actually being killed and some larger percentage being made autistic and that's happening every single day.
We can't stop that?
And you know, what I hear from the Maha crowd is, well, we have to conduct the studies to get the evidence of harm.
That's not how science works.
You don't wait for evidence of harm to pull vaccines off the market that are killing children.
You pause them because of the lack of evidence of efficacy and safety.
They're never supposed to be approved unless they're proven safe.
And if they're not proven safe, which they aren't, You can pull them and say, look, we're going to pull them until somebody proves that they're safe.
You don't need to prove that they're dangerous.
All you need to do is show that they've never been proven safe and effective.
That's all that's required.
Now, granted, granted, some listening might say, well, I'm oversimplifying it.
Okay.
It's a complicated nightmare in Washington, D.C., and there's the PREP Act, and there's the emergency use authorization, and there's all these laws, all this...
You know, quagmire of rules.
But if that's where we are as a nation, where it's just the bureaucracy determines that children have to be killed every day because nobody can actually do the right thing, then we're gone.
We're gone as a nation.
We're gone as a republic, which, you know, fiscally speaking, we're probably gone anyway.
And it will be the collapse of the system that finally halts the mass murder of children.
Have you ever thought about that?
That the way...
Vaccine homicides actually end is not because of RFK Jr.
It's not because of Trump.
It's not because of reforms.
It's not because of Doge.
It's because of the collapse of the dollar and the end of the U.S. empire.
That may be the thing that finally stops the vaccine holocaust in America.
And if that's what it takes, then the sooner the better, because if this is an empire that cannot stop the most basic You
know, Savannah Hernandez posted this on X. Responding to the James Comey 8647 graphic, and she said what most of us are thinking, actually, saying the only appropriate response would be an arrest.
If this doesn't happen, this administration is not serious about President Trump's protection or enforcing the law.
And that's absolutely true.
And I fear that this administration is not serious about enforcing the law against...
Former officials, but rather just arresting sort of no-name, like transgenders that threaten members of Congress or radical leftists that throw Molotov cocktails at Tesla car dealerships and things like that.
Arresting low-level people that really never really had much power, but just to show they're arresting somebody, but they never arrest the people that really matter.
So the way Republicans tend to operate is they'll send letters to Pam Bondi.
They'll have investigations and they'll have hearings.
You know, I've been invited to participate, you know, to testify at congressional hearings and Senate hearings.
And I always say no because it's pointless.
It's useless.
I mean, what?
I fly to Washington, D.C., which is a horrific city and stay in some crappy hotel.
And then testify and it goes nowhere and nothing happens and it's all just theater.
I mean, no.
No thanks.
Meanwhile, Democrats, when they're in power, they're out arresting thousands of peaceful protesters.
You know, the whole J6 stage fake insurrection.
They had, by this time, four years ago, they had already arrested over a thousand people.
The Republicans?
Ah, they're still writing letters and having hearings and...
Appearing on Fox News and telling you what's going to happen, but not actually doing it.
So that's the difference.
The GOP, the do-nothing party.
I mean, so far, I hope they proved me wrong, but so far it's the do-nothing party.
GOP got other priorities.
That's what it means.
All right, let me change the subject and talk about trying to keep Creepy bacteria alive.
So I have these chemtrails fallout samples, as you know.
I've shown you quite a few of those under the microscope.
And now we have this new microscope that has much better imaging, and it's pretty amazing.
So it has put me in the position of trying to grow and keep alive whatever these things are that are coming to life.
And I've never had to do that before.
I've never had to have a bacteria farm or whatever they are.
There's at least six different life forms that we've seen under the microscope.
And I was doing some research, trying to figure out how to keep them alive.
What do they need?
And I did add more water.
I bought some taller Petri dishes that are one inch tall.
Most Petri dishes are about half that.
And I found that one of the things you need to do is feed these, well, I mean, there might be like bioweaponized bacteria or something, but you got to feed them refined white sugar, which I thought was funny.
It's like, oh, junk food for, you know, chemtrails critters.
So I didn't have refined white sugar, so I ended up feeding them palm sugar.
The petri dishes and it started to dissolve, etc.
And also, I read that you should add a little bit of ammonia.
So I'm adding some ammonia.
So I also added some water and I added some more saline solution and, you know, giving them more room to grow to see if we can get some larger populations or colonies.
I mean, we have all kinds of swimmers, these rods and...
Spheres that are swimming around that I showed you yesterday and the day before, I think.
The question is, can we grow them to where we can better identify them?
Right now, they're kind of hard to see.
And I'm hoping that as we sort of allow them to become larger, I mean, they're all in a Petri dish, don't get me wrong.
But as they get larger to where we could get better visuals, then maybe an expert...
We'll see those videos and we'll be able to tell us what those are.
Or maybe we can do an image search and figure out what they are.
But at the current size, it's anybody's guess.
So we have to actually sort of grow and nurture whatever these are.
These bacteria, colonies, or who knows?
Whatever they are.
And I've never been in the business of nutrition.
For like chemtrails microbes, but I suppose that whatever you feed your gut microbiology might be also useful for this.
So, you know, simple carbohydrates seem like a pretty straightforward thing, which would mean sugars.
And maybe some kind of organic matter.
I don't know.
I'll poke around and see what I can find.
All right, we've got an interview coming up today with Scott Gordon, who's an expert for overcoming trauma, which might be handy these days.
I don't know.
Is anybody feeling traumatized out there right now?
There's definitely some trauma taking place.
And we had a great interview with him.
Would like to play that for you today.
I've also got two special reports.
One is called Freedom is a Choice, While Slavery is Automatic and Effortless.
I think you'll find that very useful.
And then I have one called Darwin's Revenge.
Vaccine advocates are eliminating themselves from the human gene pool.
And that's very sad that they're doing that, but it is cause and effect.
So the people who keep taking jabs and who keep advocating jabs are also engaging in their own self-extermination, which is exactly what the globalists want them to do.
So we'll cover that in Darwin's Revenge.
So those two special reports and the interview all coming up.
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I don't know if I should say this publicly, but what the heck.
We've had three of our engineers have serious medical issues in the last week.
And these engineers, That I'm speaking of are overseas.
They're not even in America.
And there's something happening.
It's like a rash of medical problems, and it's plaguing our own engineering staff.
And, of course, we hire people from multiple different countries as well.
Like I said before, we have some engineers in India.
We have some in Pakistan.
We have some in Ukraine.
And so on, and some in Asian countries, and some in America as well.
I mean, you go where people are, where the talent is, wherever that happens to be all over the world.
So we have engineers in many different countries, but for some reason, we've been hit with this sudden wave of engineer sickness, and it's...
Very disturbing for their sake.
I don't know what's going on, but I think that most of them are vaccinated.
And I think that's a factor.
I think the vaccines are accelerating and, you know, I care about all human beings and I care about the health of our engineers, but I don't lecture our engineering staff on vaccines and nutrition because what's the point, you know?
I mean...
A lot of engineers are younger, you know, 20-something years old or 30-something years old.
They're not really interested in health.
They're not interested in nutrition.
And I'm just wasting their time and my time to talk to them about, hey, you should eat healthy organic foods and, you know, come on.
That's not what they want to hear.
They just want to write code and it's not my business what is their diet, their lifestyle, etc., right?
So I try to hold my boundaries on that.
I'm not here to lecture every single person on...
On health and nutrition and avoiding vaccines.
But as a result, in a lot of these different countries, vaccine mandates were very aggressive.
A vaccine uptake was very high.
And vaccines are depopulation weapons.
And it's also interfering with cognition and interfering with the ability of people to get things done.
It's interfering with people's work.
And this is a perfect example of that.
I'm very concerned for the sake of these engineers, and I'm also frustrated about the setbacks on our project, obviously, because I really want to get this out to the world and help more people be healthier.
But even with that intention, I'm dealing with the health harms or the health effects on my own engineers.
So, gosh, I...
I just, I hope that when this is all up and running, I hope they will use the engine to ask questions and learn things about healthier food choice and healthier supplements and healthier living, etc.
I hope that for all human beings.
I want everybody to be healthier.
I want everybody to have more longevity and to be well and to be productive and to pursue their life's mission, whatever that happens to be, whether it's writing code or doing art.
Or, you know, being an engineer, being a doctor, whatever people want to do, as long as it's helping other human beings and not hurting them, then I want to help them maintain that level of health and cognitive performance so that they can do that.
And yet we are under attack.
So, in fact, I think we'll just go to the first special report called Darwin's Revenge, which is very much along these topics.
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All right, then let's go to the rest of the show.
A couple of reports followed by...
Our interview today with Scott Gordon.
I think you'll enjoy all of this.
But remember, it's uncensored.
It's all uncensored.
Might trigger somebody.
Prepare to be triggered.
Okay, here we go.
Allow me to explain why the vaccine issue will flip.
And this era of this vaccine holocaust, this medical violence, especially against children, will come to an end almost No matter who is at the head of HHS or no matter who's president, there are a couple of reasons why.
The strongest reason is because those who believe in vaccines and who advocate vaccines, they tend to take those vaccines themselves and thus they are self-exterminating.
They are removing themselves not just from the gene pool, but also from the decision trees of the future of our society.
As vaccines kill off more and more people, the remaining...
Remnant of humanity, however large that is, will tend to be people who reject vaccines.
And remember that vaccine takers are suicide artists, I suppose you could say.
They're engaged in self-extermination.
Vaccine pushers are complicit in mass murder.
And so the vaccine takers are demonstrating by the fact that they keep taking vaccines.
They're demonstrating their low IQ, their lack of cognitive function.
And the vaccine pushers are demonstrating their low morality, their desire to inflict mass harm and death upon other human beings.
Both of those groups of people are not good for the future of humanity.
Both of them.
Low IQ, low morality.
And that's who's being eliminated by vaccines.
Think about it.
The problem with that thinking is that children are the innocent victims in all this because they're not old enough to be expected to make rational decisions and they're not in charge of their own health.
Their low IQ parents put them up to taking vaccines.
But, you know, sadly, that's how natural selection works.
If your parents are idiots, the children do not have as high of a chance of surviving and reproducing.
That's the cruelty.
Of natural selection.
And if we as a society, if we had values, then we would actually protect children from vaccinations.
We should outlaw all vaccines because there are no vaccines that are safe and effective.
And besides, you know, measles and chicken pox, they're almost never fatal, but especially not fatal when children have adequate levels of vitamin A, vitamin D. Sunshine, you know, physical activity, things that children used to always have, but things that have been denied modern children because their parents, in many cases, their parents are obedient idiots who won't let their children play outside, you know?
But they will take them in and line them up for 57 injections at the pediatrician who's nothing but a vaccine violence promoter against children.
Basically, a form of medical pedophilia.
So, you know, just to be clear, I'm a person who cares about every human being, and this is why I've been so outspoken about this issue, even though, of course, it will get you banished and blacklisted and censored everywhere.
I've been speaking about this for over 20 years, long before most people were awake about the dangers of vaccines.
But let me be clear.
As I've just said, children are the innocent victims of this and I believe we need to protect children in society.
But for the adults that decide to keep taking vaccines, as much as I want to help them and reach them, if they make that choice, that's on them.
There's nothing I can do about it.
They are determining their own self-extinction or their own self-infertility.
We've seen new research showing that these COVID vaccines cause Massive destruction of women's eggs.
So we are looking at the extinction of the vaccinated lines of humans.
Like, that is already underway.
And as much as I despise the vaccine violence against human beings, there is a cause and effect reality that actually, how to say this without sounding politically incorrect, When stupid people remove themselves from the gene pool, there is a long-term effect that the average IQ of the human race actually goes up.
And that is undeniably one of the things that's happening right now.
I mean, think about it this way.
If they manage to kill 50% of the human population with vaccines, which 50% are they killing?
It's the stupid, gullible 50%.
The people who are just literally dumb enough to keep taking bioweapons jabs, thinking they're vaccines.
And which 50% is remaining alive?
It's the 50% who know how to think for themselves.
And who say, no, I'm not going to just throw unproven, unsafe, ineffective, dangerous vaccines into my body.
I'm not going to inject myself with that nonsense.
That's the 50% that we want around.
It's like if you were an anthropologist and you came upon a group of 100 monkeys in a rainforest somewhere and you found that 50 of the 100 monkeys were stabbing themselves with sticks constantly and bleeding out and tending to get infections and die versus the other 50% of the monkeys who took care of their health and actually gathered natural herbs from the forest.
To help treat their own wounds, and even they tried to treat the wounds of the self-stabbers.
Which monkeys would you prefer survive?
Or you could say, regardless of your preference, which group of monkeys is better suited for survival?
Better suited for representing the future of monkeys on planet Earth?
Well, obviously it's the 50 monkeys who don't stab themselves with sticks.
And yes, that's a very accurate metaphor.
Because here we have humans that allow themselves to be jabbed with needles with things worse than sticks.
Needles filled with bioweapons and infertility weapons and, you know, who knows what kind of nanotech and mRNA.
And they allow themselves to be stabbed.
They beg for it.
So, yeah, not qualified to represent the future of the human race.
Period.
And I know there are people out there who are otherwise smart in certain areas.
Like, oh, I can memorize stuff.
I'm a doctor.
Or I'm a coder.
I'm a high-end coder, but maybe they wanted to take the jabs.
But they're going to argue that they're smart, and I'm going to argue they're stupid.
Because no matter how smart you are in any area of your life, you still inhabit a body.
You need to be smart enough to take care of that body.
Otherwise, you're not qualified to actually survive by definition.
Like, for example, children have a natural...
Inborn fear of heights.
Why?
Because when they're infants crawling around, and if you put them on a table, they will not want to crawl off the edge of that table.
That is, if their eyes are working, and if their head is in the right direction, etc.
They don't want to crawl off that table.
They're afraid of heights.
And why does that matter?
Well, obviously crawling off high ledges and such will get you killed, and you will not reproduce.
So, if babies are smart enough to not crawl off of high ledges and, you know, commit gravity suicide, how come their parents aren't smart enough to say no to the death jabs?
See, there's a question for you.
So, understand that the human gene pool is being reshaped constantly, every single day.
People are being removed, new people are coming in.
Every single day, there are healthy children being born to informed parents who reject the jabs and who feed their children healthy things, not just corn syrup solids infant formula garbage.
And parents who teach their children, you know, home gardening skills or living in a rural area or they're engaged in homeschooling or all the above.
There are those kind of children coming into this world and being raised by very informed, responsible parents.
Those children represent the future of human civilization.
Then there are also children brought into this world by heavily vaccinated pregnant women who increasingly have a hard time getting pregnant because they keep taking more vaccines, so they'll have more spontaneous abortions.
Children will be born with birth defects, and if they're not found with defects at birth, well, then the parents have them jabbed until they become autistic, at which point, sadly, in many cases, they're not.
Functioning in society to where they could become, you know, functioning parents themselves.
So that group doesn't have a strong future in terms of representing the human race.
And isn't it interesting that the very same parents who tend to push a lot of jabs, they also tend to be obese junk food eaters who feed their children a lot of junk food, too.
And they end up with these little fat children walking around, little obese ADHD kids.
Who clearly are behaviorally impaired, neurologically impaired, lacking in neurodevelopmental skills, etc.
And it all goes together.
You know, junk food, vaccines, medications, ADHD drugs.
That's the profile of a suicide cult.
And that is a significant portion of the population today, but it won't be for much longer for all the obvious reasons of self-extermination.
And so this whole idea that the government can improve the health of Americans, you know, make America healthy again, MAHA, which is lacking in action, by the way.
I think MAHA is discrediting itself in so many ways.
They still haven't banned mRNA jabs, for example.
But the idea that the government can make America healthy is absurd.
It's also just stupid.
The government can't make America healthy.
Health is an individual choice.
You have to decide to be healthy.
And in order to be healthy, you have to be smart enough to know that you have to reject the false narratives of fake authorities like the CDC and the FDA, etc., or the fake news media.
You have to have some functioning brain cells in order to have the knowledge and then have courage to make yourself healthy.
Because you can.
You can make yourself healthy.
The government cannot make you healthy.
I mean, what has so-called Maha actually accomplished?
They banned artificial dyes in processed food cereals that are only purchased by idiot parents.
I mean, let's be honest.
I mean, who's buying Froot Loops for their kids?
The dumbest parents imaginable.
It's the same parents that take their kids to the pediatrician and say, yeah, jab them, you know, 70 times, whatever.
It's the same parents that even if they weren't buying Froot Loops, they're buying, you know, fake processed pasteurized cheese spread product.
They're buying cheap fried foods or fast foods, junk foods.
It's the same parents.
And it just begs to be stated.
Not all parents are qualified.
To participate in the future of the human race through their children.
Not all parents are good at raising offspring that are survivors.
Just a statement of fact.
It's true in the natural world, too.
You know, I talk about field rats.
Some field rat parents suck at field rat parenting.
Others are good and protect their young and bring them food until they're capable.
You see the same thing in every animal species.
You see it in dogs.
You see it in deer.
You see it in birds.
You see it in humans.
Not all parents are qualified.
But no, we've been raised in a society where you're not allowed to judge parents on their parenting skills.
And that's why so many, especially woke parents, utterly lack any kind of parenting skills at all.
And they coddle their children instead of teaching them how to think for themselves.
And those children don't have a strong future.
So this is just the reality of the world in which we live.
The sad part is that a lot of children are going to suffer under bad parents who are pro-vaccine.
And it's also sad that the vaccine industry is composed mostly of mass murderers who are complicit in a medical holocaust, largely perpetrated against children.
On the positive side, this will eventually flip, for the reasons I've mentioned here, Because the vaccine advocates, the vaccine promoters, and the pro-vaccine parents are killing themselves and their children, and they're eliminating their kind from the gene pool.
And what kind are those people?
Low IQ, low morality idiots who really can't participate in the future of human civilization.
And that's just cause and effect.
That's not even a moral judgment on my part.
I believe that all children are children of God, Everybody can be redeemed, and I've done as much as I can to try to reach everybody, but for those who reject longevity and who reject truth and who reject independent control over your own health, they're going to pay for that by having their family tree chopped off at the roots.
They will have no future, they will have no children, and they will Maybe will not even participate much themselves in the future of civilization.
So, hang tight.
Have patience.
Try to help as many people as you can, like I do.
But for those you can't help, say a prayer for them and keep marching forward, helping as many as you can.
I mean, we can't save everyone from their own stupidity as much as we might try.
But say a prayer for them, nonetheless.
And sadly, a lot of innocent children will die because of stupid, obedient parents who jab them and then end up getting them killed.
But thank you for listening.
I'm Mike Adams here, The Health Ranger, NaturalNews.com, and Brighteon.com.
Take care.
There's a very important concept to keep in mind in everything that you do in your life, which is that freedom is a choice, but enslavement is...
A default.
If you are passive, and if you don't choose freedom actively, you will be enslaved.
Because the entire system is constructed to make sure that you stay a slave, that you were born into slavery with a Social Security slave number, that you were born into taxation, that you were born into brainwashing, you're born into indoctrination.
And if you don't make efforts to get out of that, You will live your entire life in that slave system, and that's the way the vast majority of people live and die.
Forever slaves.
Getting out of that system requires an active leap, and it's a leap that no doubt you have taken at some level, if you are even listening to this.
But as with many things, there are multiple leaps to be taken, right?
There's a quantum leap of an awakening.
Where you first realize at whatever age, hey, we're being lied to.
What's going on?
Hey, we weren't told the truth about this or that.
That's a red pill moment for a lot of people.
And then if they're curious and if they have intellectual honesty, that begins the journey.
The search for truth.
And along the way, the search for truth is filled with all kinds of obstacles and landmines.
And some fake actors or chaos agents that try to misdirect you away from the truth, that's all by design.
Because the very last thing the establishment wants is for billions of people to become awakened to the reality.
The reality of our cosmos, of consciousness, of the interconnectedness.
The reality that we're all being lied to.
That our governments want us dead.
The reality that our food is designed to kill.
That the vaccines are designed to depopulate.
That the pesticides and herbicides are designed not to kill the bugs, but to kill humans.
And so on and so forth.
That fluoride is a mind-numbing brain poison.
That pharmaceuticals are designed to rob your body of nutrients.
And make you sicker and sicker so that you need more and more pharmaceuticals because the doctors are all paid by Big Pharma, etc.
That entire system can be all-consuming if you allow it to consume you.
And the vast majority of people do.
And that's where they get lost in the system, lost in the matrix.
But getting out of that is a choice followed by a journey.
And it's a choice that you have to make every single day because it's easy to slide back into enslavement, but it takes dedication, perseverance, and courage to choose truth every single day.
It's kind of like, I suppose, being an alcoholic, although I've never been an alcoholic, it's not my thing, but as I understand it, that each day, like once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic.
And that each day, you have to make a conscious decision to stay sober.
If you don't make that conscious decision, then you, by default, you slide back into alcohol.
And that's why staying sober requires constant dedication and also social reinforcement with your friends or your sponsors or whoever's involved in your...
AA meetings or whatever it is.
And, you know, again, that hasn't been my journey, but I have had alcoholics in my family.
And I know about the 12-step program and I know about the failures and the difficulties, etc.
And I've also known people who have gone sober and have stayed sober for life after going through those programs.
Well, it's the same thing with freedom.
In the sense that you have to make a conscious decision to be free every single day.
And if you don't, if you don't actively decide to be free, and if you don't actively apply that to your decisions, then you will slide into slavery.
Because the entire system is set up as a prison for your mind.
So let's get practical.
What would those decisions be?
The day-to-day decisions?
Well, it would be things like, hey, don't use Google.
Because Google is a surveillance machine that's also lying to you.
Don't use any Google service.
Instead, seek out alternative sources of information.
Don't watch TV broadcast news.
Don't eat foods that are heavily processed and laced with pesticides and herbicides.
Because that will dumb you down.
Don't make yourself dependent on pharmaceuticals.
Because that's another kind of trap, especially mind-altering psychotropic or psychiatric drugs or the addictive painkiller substances like opioids, which can also be rather devastating.
So make that conscious decision every day to ensure that you are free.
You've got to do it in every area.
In food, in conversations, in your job, in searching for information, in decentralizing your life, in all the ways that matter, in the way you consume information, in the way you vote, in the way you shop, all of these things.
At every level, you have to remind yourself that the system is designed to slide you into slavery, and if you don't actively resist that, then...
Perhaps the most powerful enslavement phenomenon is social conformity.
So the powers that be know that if they can convince your friends and your peers to tell you to do something like wear a mask or take a jab, then Most people cannot stand up against social pressures.
You know why?
Because most people want to fit in at all costs.
They will take suicide jabs just to not lose friends.
They will literally commit vaccine-assisted suicide in order to maintain their acceptance in their social group.
That's how powerful social groups can be, and that's why the powers that be.
Use them as Trojan horses to convince people to take actions that are actually self-destructive, like taking jabs or wearing a mask.
But what is that desire for social conformity tied to?
Usually it's tied to a lack of self-image or a lack of self-trust.
So people who...
They tend to allow themselves to be guided by others.
They follow the herd because they figure incorrectly.
They figure, well, the herd must know what they're doing.
I mean, how could everybody be lining up and taking jabs if it was a bad idea?
And that's a cognitive shortcut that a lot of people take.
Follow the herd.
In this time of active globalist extermination of human populations, following the herd will get you killed.
You do not want to follow the herd, and I would dare say that the behavior of the herd is a strong indicator that you should oppose.
Whatever the herd is doing is probably a bad idea, not a good idea, even though our brains are wired to think that herd behavior is a good idea.
But if you have knowledge, Then you will gain a sense of self-trust, a sense of self-confidence and self-empowerment, and you will be less susceptible to social influence behaviors or social conformity or herd behaviors for that matter.
So understand that learning helps set you free from these herd-like behaviors.
So the more you can learn, the greater your confidence and your knowledge becomes, the more self-reliant you become.
And the more likely you are to trust your own decisions, your own skepticism, or your own reason, and not rely on the stupidity of the herd.
Like, for example, wherever I go, if there's a group of people, and I've been this way my whole life, but no group of people can convince me to do something just because the group wants me to.
You know?
I'm not the kind of person who would be someone where the group would say, you know, drink, drink, drink, and make me chug a beer or something.
That's never happened in my entire life, and it never will.
Because I would tell the group, you know, go pound sand.
I'm not your stupid puppet boy here.
I don't respond to group chants.
You know?
So, in any kind of a group situation that I find myself...
In society today, unless I'm around people in the health freedom movement or people like you listening, but if I'm around just like normal everyday people, I'm always the smartest person in the room that is the most informed, the most awake, the most red pill.
There's no question about it.
Now, just to be clear, if you listening to this, if you and I were in the same room, then we would both be informed, and that would be really cool.
But I'm talking about just in a generic social situation.
I'm always the most informed person in the group.
And I know that going into the group.
And I know that here I am, I'm dealing with people who are mostly ignorant.
And, you know, you can make a conscious decision that, hey, this is a social event, or this is whatever, or I'm just being polite, and I'm going to deactivate my brain for this period of time and just participate in this.
Social act or whatever it is, and that's fine.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Sometimes you need to do that to get along in society.
But I don't walk into that situation expecting to have a highly intelligent, informed conversation with awake, enlightened people.
So as long as my expectations are in line with the reality, then I'm not disappointed.
I'm not disappointed.
In average people, because I don't expect them to be anything but average.
And sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised when I'm in a group of average people, and then suddenly there's someone who pops out of that group through conversation, and I find out, wow, this person is actually really well-informed.
I met an archaeologist the other day that was in that category and could have spoken about archaeology.
For hours.
And also, interestingly, this archaeologist was stunned that I knew what archaeology was.
Because, as we found out, when he tells most people that he's an archaeologist, they only ask him about dinosaurs.
Whereas I was asking him about ancient civilizations and what time period and what cultures he was focused on in his...
Archaeology, in other words, I had a more anthropological view of archaeology, which most people don't have.
So that was a spark of, you know, mutual recognition.
Like, wow, we're both free thinkers, you know, and we have a much greater understanding of reality.
And so that was a wonderful conversation.
And I'm sometimes pleasantly surprised by that.
But I just want to tell you in the theme of this podcast here, remember that.
Freedom is a choice.
Enslavement is the default.
And when you're around a bunch of people who have failed to choose freedom, they're just going to be the default slavers.
And it's okay to be around them as long as they haven't taken vaccines and they're not shedding all over you.
It's okay to be around them as long as you just have that expectation that is aligned with their limitations.
So, in fact, let me encourage you to do this.
Think about the people that you interact with, and I know some of that is involuntary.
Sometimes you just have to interact with neighbors or friends or family members or co-workers or whatever.
Ask yourself, out of that group of people, how many have enough knowledge about reality that you would actually enjoy spending time with them and having intelligent conversations?
Percentage-wise, what percentage is that?
Maybe you're a very blessed person and you have surrounded yourself with incredibly capable people.
And I envy you if you are in a situation to be able to do that.
Even in that case, you might say, ah, one in four are the kind of people that I could actually talk to.
But in a lot of other situations, it might be like one in ten or one in twenty.
You might even say, I don't know anybody who's red-pilled.
Nobody's got it together.
And that's actually quite common, which tells you something.
We're living in a world where most people have failed to choose freedom.
And the truth is that most people never even knew it was a choice.
No one ever approached them and said, hey, you have your whole life ahead of you.
Do you want to live it as a slave or as a free person?
And if you did present that choice to a lot of people, if you really explained what that entailed, you know, the effort that is involved in free thinking, you know, the social cost, the fact that you have to reject false obedience, etc.
There are a lot of people who would actively say that they choose enslavement because it's just easier.
It's just less exhausting.
You know, it's just so easy to go with the flow and not raise questions and not argue with whoever, the government or your doctor or your school teacher about your children's vaccines.
It's just easier just to go along with the slave system.
And that's truly the way most people are.
It's just easier.
Which brings us to the interesting point that these people want to experience life the way that they experience food in a fast food drive-thru.
They just want it easy and fast, but not really rich with depth.
So, is your life a fast food drive-thru lane?
Are you just ordering off a menu like, give me the vaccine number five and I'll take the...
I'll take the happy job, number three.
Are you just going through life?
Driving through with the preset menu and just thinking that you have a choice and thinking that you're a full human when actually you're just living out somebody else's script?
Well, if you are, you can make a change at any moment.
You can choose freedom.
You can choose to be enlightened.
You can choose to learn, to expand.
From any area of your life.
Free yourself from a bad job.
Free yourself from bad friends.
Free yourself from organized religion if it's being abusive to you.
And a lot of them are.
You can free yourself from bad politics.
You can free yourself from the trap of materialism, thinking that your value in life is only expressed by your liquid assets, you know?
There's so many traps that you can choose to free yourself from, and a lot of that is just letting go.
It's letting go of things that no longer matter.
You know, you can live as a much more free person, even economically speaking, by just not overextending your expenditures into a house that you can't afford, like a McMansion or whatever, or a luxury vehicle you can't afford, or...
Or luxury vacations you can't afford.
If you just live within your means, you will be more free.
And there's nothing wrong with living within your means.
And I've said this before.
You wouldn't believe how simple my own living situation is.
I mean, obviously I can't show you pictures of it because of security and privacy and location, etc.
But you'd be shocked how modest it is.
Because I literally put no value in having a luxury home.
It's just not on my list of priorities at all.
If it were, I mean, could I afford a luxury home?
Sure.
Okay, and then what?
I just have to sweep more floors, you know?
I mean, I've got more important stuff to do because I choose freedom.
I'm not saying that you're wrong if you have a luxury home.
I mean, good for you.
People have different perceptions and different values, etc.
I get it.
I get it.
But if you're pursuing material things beyond your means, then that's becoming a system of self-enslavement.
People are enslaved in their own debt cycles.
And because of compounding interest, that becomes very difficult to escape.
And so if you're caught up as a debt slave, then you've lost so much freedom at that point.
Then you have to work and you have to earn.
And of course, then you have to pay taxes.
And then you have to file this and file that.
And then at the end of the day, how much do you have left to pay off the loans that you took on the stuff that you really can't afford, but you wanted to splurge or whatever?
It's all a debt trap.
That's not freedom.
That's the opposite of freedom.
You'd be more free.
To live in an RV rather than a house you can't afford.
So anyway, these are my thoughts on the subject.
I hope I gave you some things to think about.
At every step of your life, choose freedom.
Choose it actively.
And if you are currently engaged in any sort of habits that are reinforcing slavery, then ditch those habits.
Reform your own behavior.
Uplift your knowledge and your own courage.
Don't follow the herd.
And don't...
Bow down to social pressures, because honestly, most people are wrong most of the time.
The herd is stupid.
The herd is not your leader.
The herd is really your Pied Piper to demise.
Remember that the Native Americans used to harvest buffalo by herding them off the edge of a cliff, and they would just run and follow the buffalo butt in front of them until they all went over the cliff.
And then the Indians would, you know, carve them up at the bottom.
Well, that's the way most humans are.
They're following the butt of the person in front of them right off the edge of a cliff, and then they're wondering in free fall, what happened?
I thought the herd knew what they were doing.
But the buffalo in front of you thought the same thing.
That buffalo was like, well, I thought the buffalo butt in front of me knew what they were doing.
Nobody knows what they're doing in the herd.
The only people that know what they're doing?
In that case, we're the Indians that were doing the herding.
Or, in our modern world, it's the people that stand back and watch the herd and just shake their head in disbelief.
Like, you people are dumb enough to line up and keep getting jabbed?
That's the modern equivalent of running off the edge of a cliff, like lining up at CVS Pharmacy to get injected with bioweapons.
It's the same thing.
Did you follow a buffalo butt to the pharmacy?
I mean, People would do that.
I had a wild hog in my yard last night, by the way.
There's not much water right now in Texas, and the animals are ranging farther than they usually would, so I ended up with a wild hog in my yard.
A pretty big one, like 300 pounds.
I like pink and black splotched, actually.
This is kind of a bit of an unusual color for a wild hog to have pink splotches like that.
Of course, I showed him the way out of the yard, and he was fine.
He was fine to leave, especially with my dogs chasing him.
But I thought, you know, hey, at least here's a creature with goal-oriented behavior.
He's not following a herd.
He's seeking water.
He hasn't found it yet, but at least he's actively doing something to improve his condition.
And that's smarter than most humans.
So the wild hog in my yard last night is actually more impressive than passive people who sit back and do nothing and just default into slavery.
At least this hog was free.
That says something.
The hog in my yard is more free than most Americans.
Think about that.
Don't go hog wild over it or anything, but just ponder that.
Okay, thank you for listening.
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here at Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and we have another fascinating interview here as part of the Health Revealed series that Corey Endrelott has put together.
That's at healthrevealed.org if you want to check out that website.
And our guest here is actually profiled there on that site, Scott Gordon, who lives...
Is it okay if I say where you live?
Yeah.
Okay.
He lives in Argentina, and he traveled to Texas to come...
Join us today in studio and he is an expert in overcoming, well, trauma at multiple levels.
He's got a lot to share with us that can help you heal your life and decentralize, that is not require some authority to tell you how to heal, right?
So that's an overall context of our conversation as I understand it.
But welcome, Scott.
Thank you.
I'm honored to be here.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you for taking the time and traveling and for all that you do and preparing notes and everything.
Wow.
I'm honored.
Thank you.
We've talked about trauma and its influence on our health.
It has a great influence on our health.
And I've never really been involved with health other than my personal health.
And I go back to around 2004 when I first started subscribing to...
Your newsletter.
Really?
And I learned a lot of things about health from you.
So I'm so honored to be here now talking with you about it.
Well, again, I'm honored to have you as a guest.
And I welcome all your input and wisdom about this and anything that can help our audience deal with our very traumatic world.
And in fact, all of us were just talking during the break that, and we all agree, that there's something, well, there are...
Many things about our world today that are far more traumatic than what any of us can remember.
I mean, I was a kid in the 1970s and, you know, we walked to school and nobody freaked out, right?
Right.
That doesn't happen today.
Right.
What's going on?
What has happened to our civilization?
Well, all of that stress in the modern day, in the modern world, which has, you know, gotten worse.
Is sitting on top of our childhood trauma, basically.
Maybe even infant trauma.
And so trauma stacks up.
And the more it stacks up, the more it affects our lives, the more it affects our health.
It can affect our health severely.
If we're not dealing in the inner work with trauma, we're going to see it expressed through the body.
Clearly.
But let me ask you to clarify.
So do you believe...
That unresolved trauma can cause the body to build a defensive mechanism that can become a tumor, for example.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that can happen.
And, of course, we're all aware of nutritional deficiencies or immune suppression and things like that.
But you're talking about physical manifestations of unresolved emotional or energetic trauma.
Yeah, exactly.
And there's an interaction.
There's an interaction with the foods that we eat, of course, the nutrition plays a key role.
But what tends to be overlooked is the role that stress and trauma plays in our health.
Okay, perfect.
Now, just to provide context for our conversation, can you tell our audience, do you consult with people?
Do you create courses?
What is your role in this realm?
Well, there's two main things that I'm doing, and one is that I'm working to train Therapists, counselors, who can train others.
So I realized when I really looked at what the world needs and what my mission is, and that is to spread the knowledge and the therapy.
So the other aspect of that is that I actually counsel people.
And so I learn a lot from my clients.
On all different levels.
Some of them are advanced clients.
Some have some deep issues.
I'm working with a woman that has had satanic ritual abuse as an infant.
I don't think I would have been able to help her if she wasn't herself a therapist.
Because it's extreme trauma.
But most of my clients, I'm just trying to help them live a better life, be a little more successful, and of course, the side effect should be that they're a lot healthier, because they've unloaded a lot of the trauma.
Well, I'm glad you brought that point up, because we've spoken with our other guests here as part of this Health Revealed body of knowledge, and it shows that when a person lacks trust in themselves, Then they often cannot make the right choices when it comes to nutrition or health or physical exercise or etc.
So trauma, like trauma that was completely outside of their power.
You mentioned an infant subjected to satanic rituals, right?
Powerless.
A powerless infant.
That can have a chain reaction through your entire life that unresolved can lead to horrific consequences.
Absolutely.
I guess I'm stating the obvious, but...
Absolutely, and she had some severe health issues and didn't want to live anymore, and we started unpacking this trauma, and she's doing much better health-wise.
She's up in years, but I feel it's going to buy her some more time and happy time instead of suffering.
So she's able to work through some of this.
Are you finding that Is there a name for the philosophy that you espouse?
Or do you have a title for this approach?
I describe it as philosophy-based counseling.
And the reason is that I think a lot of the counseling that we have handed down to us in our society has been derived from efforts of religion and state to care for its people.
You know, even though, you know, I would question the use of the word care in many cases.
But certainly in the beginning, the idea was, the intentions were good.
For example, the Catholic Church and the Catholic priests that we've had for over a thousand years on this planet.
Confession is a healthy thing.
Getting things off your chest relieves some Aspect of trauma.
And it's one aspect.
You can be a victim of something and you can perpetrate things and both of them are traumatic.
So you have to handle both sides.
Well, since you brought up the Catholic Church, I mean, I have to bring in also there's trauma from the sexual abuse history in some sectors, right?
And that's not obviously limited to the Catholic Church.
How big of an issue is Sexual abuse or satanic abuse that you just mentioned, because it seems to me, from some of the training that I went through years ago, there's a tremendous undercurrent of abuse that has taken place.
Yeah, and that comes up from time to time in my work with clients, but I don't know a whole lot about it, but I've seen some statistics that are alarming in terms of...
How many people have been subjected to sexual abuse as a child, including satanic ritual abuse and MKUltra, which were experiments done by the government and military for decades now.
And so a lot of my impetus, motivation for my work, came from I first wanted to understand how deep does this rabbit hole go?
How much trauma can we take?
And really, the answer is, how much trauma can a body take before it lets go and it dies?
Some of these people in severe trauma have been brought to the brink of death.
And there are some fail-safe mechanisms in the body, but they use those fail-safe mechanisms.
For example, the shutdown of certain areas of your body to actually implant or in the case of an MK Ultra mind control to implant suggestions and hypnotic commands.
And we we see that in the movies and we see that carried out.
This is really part of the same overall big package.
You know, there's light trauma and I can help a person just feel better in life and and maybe get through some of the relationship difficulties.
It's sitting on.
So a lot of times you don't have to get to the deepest trauma to improve someone's life or to make them feel better.
I like to get people to the point where they don't need me anymore.
That's my goal.
I see.
And how effective has this approach?
It's been very effective.
I mean, the more that I learned, I came out of a cult, you could say, or religion, Scientology and Dianetics, and that's where I learned a lot of things.
One of the things I learned was that this was being, when I came out and I could see the context of the bigger society, I realized that trauma therapy has been sequestered by the What do you call them?
The powers that be or the dark occult masters that are behind the scenes in the power structure of this planet?
And I realized that they were withholding this vital information from people.
Well, no, they would never do that.
They withhold everything from us, yeah.
Yeah, so the idea is that I was supposed to get angry and go and stand in front of organizations with a picket and say, I want my money back and things like that.
But I was actually using the same trauma-based therapy to get over my own experience of being ejected, kicked out, having to start my life all over again.
And I found it worked for myself.
I found it was working for others.
I also want to admit that it's not a complete package.
We were trained to project or to disseminate that this was the way.
And it is good therapy, but I learned a lot of things from other people and some missing parts of the package.
There's a whole package in the same kind of split that MKUltra mind control would do to an individual's personality is being done in society.
Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that.
Isolating different factions.
And we see it in politics.
We see it in religions.
We see it in nations, nation states.
And also in technology.
We see a transhumanism movement that has the same exact artifacts of everything that you've just mentioned.
But I'm really glad you brought that up because...
You know, MKUltra, just for those watching, if you're skeptical, that's all been declassified, right?
So that's not a theory, that's history.
And it's still going.
I would argue, and I'm curious about your reaction, and as usual, feel free to disagree with me.
It's totally okay.
But I would argue that we're all being MKUltra'd constantly right now by media programming, fear-based programming.
We saw a lot of that during COVID.
Extreme fear.
Like, straight-up hypnosis.
Be afraid of invisible things that you can't see.
And people went along with it.
It was like a massive global Milgram experiment of some kind.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it was astonishing to me, because I've studied hypnosis before, and I know there's a positive hypnosis, and negative in the sense that you can add...
Add things to people's perceptions, or you can delete things from people's perceptions, right?
You can make people not see what's there, or you can put things into their reality.
And that was COVID.
They put that into people's reality, and everybody believed that if they didn't stand more than five feet away, little spit gremlins were going to get them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was amazing!
And they were able to leverage our Weaknesses and susceptibility to trauma against us.
That's right.
And get us fighting each other as well.
They did.
Yeah.
So I would point to the work of, I'm a student of Mark Passio and Jason Christoph and Colin Evans for some good information about why people react the way they do and how MKUltra has been Used on a social basis through advertising, our media, and Hollywood.
Hollywood's an expert at it.
Oh yeah, for sure.
So Hollywood and the music industry, but there are also these ties where government funds the MKUltra narratives that they actually pay.
For example, the CDC had a billion dollar budget to pay Absolutely.
And we've got a comprehensive program facing us.
So we have to wise up.
We have to know the techniques that they're using.
And I do have good news.
When people do just a little bit, make a little bit of effort to do some inner work, even if it's by themselves, and I realize that's very hard.
You need somebody really to talk to.
But when you just pay attention to that, a little bit goes a long way.
The hypnosis breaks really quickly.
Oh, that's good news.
A little bit of work on trauma, and the hypnosis starts to break, and you can go one of two ways.
You can do more inner work, which is know thyself, self-knowledge, or you can learn about what's going on, about how they do what they do, and all of the ramifications, the history, true history of things.
So you can get into the outer knowledge or the inner knowledge.
Either one is going to help.
That's a really good point.
I'm glad to hear you say that.
I've described myself sometimes as a spellbreaker.
My job is to de-sorcerize people.
Break the spells and then let you see as raw of reality as you want.
But my question to you, sir, is that many times it's very fearful for people and it's very uncomfortable.
Now, I've seen this in many cases because I'm someone who doesn't self-censor at all.
And so I'll be talking to a group about, hey, let's break the spell of government dependence.
And they're like, yay, yay, yay.
And I'm like, hey, let's break the spell of the lies your pastor told you.
They're like, no!
We love those lies, you know what I mean?
There's a limit or there's a process that can't be rushed.
In a lot of people.
Have you experienced that?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Did I touch a nerve there?
No, I got a little bit distracted.
I'm sorry.
Oh, okay.
So I lost the thread of what you were saying.
Well, I'm just saying that people are not always comfortable.
Like, on the surface, they will say, I want to be free.
But then, in the process of getting to that freedom, that journey, Yep.
Yep.
So, yeah, there are so many mechanisms of control.
You know, we've gone over religion, government, Hollywood.
Social networks.
Social networks.
And everyone develops, you know, certain dependencies or, you know, let's say the most obvious one is your loyalty to your country, right?
You know, it's a good thing.
It's not a bad thing.
But it's something that should be questioned and looked at and re-evaluated from time to time.
And so, yeah, there are these stumbling blocks, you might say, that people have all around them where, oh, I want to know about this, but no, I don't want to go there.
Exactly.
There's a lot of that.
I get what you're saying.
Right.
But also, I mean, perhaps that's reasonable to say that You don't eat the whole cake at once.
It's one bite at a time.
And then that opens up an opportunity for people.
Here's a great example of this.
Pre-COVID, many more people believed in the medical establishment than now.
People have lost a lot of faith in the medical establishment.
But then because of that, post-COVID, more people are questioning things like the Federal Reserve.
So it opened up The idea that, hey, I've been lied to.
That's true.
And that's a good thing for us because I think more people gravitate towards expanding their knowledge and going out and finding out more.
It gets overwhelming at some point.
We call that black-pilled, right?
It's like, took the red pill and went looking for more information, but it gets overwhelming.
And that's when you've got to go back and do inner work.
Because the inner work relieves some of that load.
And that touches on another thing you were talking about.
How do you confront that magnitude of evil?
Believe me, I go through it almost every day.
Because like you mentioned in your other interviews with seeing the bad news that comes across our table every day, how do you cope and deal with that?
And my answer is that you need to do it.
You need to monitor yourself.
That's probably the first aspect of inner work.
You know, doing a trauma therapy.
You need to monitor, what am I willing to confront?
How much of this am I willing?
Go explore and then pull back and take a break, take a rest, and maybe do this on a regular basis.
And whether you're studying the outer work and confronting the evil around us outside, or whether you're confronting the evil in yourself or the evil that was done to you, there's both as a part of inner work.
Both of those things are going to be a lot better handled if you do it in little pieces at a time.
You don't want to dive into this pool.
It's dangerous.
Well said.
I think there's a shocking realization among many people that their current reality, their social reality, their professional reality, let's say if they're a nurse at a hospital, their job, their income, their paycheck, Their self-identity as being an RN or a doctor and all these things are very often tied to falsehoods that,
when uncovered, risk the dismantling of the very networks that give them meaning and purpose and affirmations from other people in society.
Right?
So, I mean, we can take the classic example of vaccines just as a thought experiment.
If you're a doctor, and then you tell a patient, or you start to believe that not all vaccines are safe, or that there's a tie between, let's say, vaccines and autism, which is a debate that's happening right now, then you put at risk your entire livelihood of being a doctor.
So that's a big barrier.
Sure, sure it is.
It takes a lot of courage to do the inner work, and it takes a lot of courage to confront.
The mess that we're in as a culture, as humanity, it's huge.
And it seems like it's externally reinforced to not go there.
Have you ever seen the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise and Morgan Freeman?
I don't believe I have.
Well, it's a science fiction movie.
It's really great.
You'll love it.
The way they limit the range of the Tom Cruise character who flies around on a ship and he's supposed to monitor this certain sector of Earth.
Pretty small area.
A few hundred square kilometers or whatever.
On his display in his ship, every time he gets near the edge of that, it says radiation warning.
Right.
So don't go to the radiation zones.
Right, or even in the Truman Show, when the Truman character, you've seen the movie The Truman Show?
Yes, yeah.
And when he tried to go down the highway, what did they say?
Oh, there's been a nuclear accident.
You can't go, you can't escape your town.
They always use invisible fears, radiation, germs, whatever.
And cults use those fears to keep you from leaving.
Don't go out there.
It's a bad world.
But, you know, one of the funny things is I came out of a cult and I looked around me and I realized I was in just a bigger cult.
And it is reinforced that the boundaries of our reality are reinforced by trauma-based conditioning.
And we don't, you know, we almost feel this buzz of energy going...
And it keeps us channeled.
And it's a hypnosis technique as well.
If they have you afraid of going outside the boundaries, they channel your attention.
And once that is done, you're looking at what they want you to look at.
Absolutely.
And that's how the trick is done.
So you came out of one cult and found you were in another cult.
So you were in a cult, nested in a cult.
And I'm wondering...
Is there like a Russian Dolls type of thing where you can have a cult within a cult within a cult?
Is that what many of us are actually stuck in?
I think so.
I mean, you know, I look at my upbringing.
I was raised in a Christian home and many advantages and I appreciate so much the safety and the...
The training, the training and morality, for example, is very good.
Absolutely.
And, you know, a family is its own little cult system, and a lot of families are dysfunctional, making them a cult you don't want to maybe not belong to.
But I believe in taking responsibility for your family, and I always try to help people.
I mean, family is so important.
But that gives you a...
If you look at all the spheres of existence, spheres that you live your life on, your groups, you know, mankind, closer to you is your relationships and your family, you're going to find...
Cultures or cults for short.
Cult is just a short name for culture.
And we usually use it to say that the culture is a bit dysfunctional or a bit entrapping, right?
And so we use the word cult.
But all of those can be cults.
So yes, there is a Russian dolls thing that you can start unpacking as you do your inner work.
So let me bring in an anthropological question about the structure of the human mind.
So as you well know, our brains take a lot of shortcuts to make decisions because there's not the ability to have an unlimited supercomputer.
It's a supercomputer, but it has to fit in the skull, it turns out, right?
If it spills out, you're not living.
So this supercomputer takes a lot of shortcuts, and it has certain wiring, and fear initiates a shortcut, right?
Fight or flight, everything else.
But also, beliefs.
So, most of the beliefs that most people hold, probably including us as well, we cannot trace back to where we got that belief.
We don't know.
And you know how, if you're on the internet debating somebody, cite your sources.
Cite your sources of what's in your head, and nobody can.
We don't know where we got this stuff, right?
So doesn't that make us vulnerable to inputs that we don't control and we forgot how it came in?
We were told this by authority figures and then we never audited that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a great point.
We don't know the source of most of our beliefs.
That's true.
Right.
That's true.
And a lot of our beliefs and ideas have been formed in moments of trauma.
And when you're looking at criminality, a lot of times you're looking at a rage reaction that the person is stuck in that they don't even remember what it was.
It may be very early childhood.
And they've got to get somebody back.
And they've lost the ability to compartment or to focus that on the perpetrator.
And it's now a shotgun against all society.
I really take the time and interest to study evil, the origin of evil and things like that.
Why do people treat each other the way they do?
And a lot of it is traceable back to trauma.
And yes, we were talking about beliefs and ideas are formed a lot of times in moments of heavy trauma.
And that is what the mind control operations are trying to actually artificially create.
Those are the most effective, because we don't know where they came from.
And we just about can't trace it without some real deep trauma therapy.
I'm really glad that you've studied the origins of evil, and I'd like to ask you a question about that.
Because I've also given quite a bit of thought to that from a philosophical context.
And I think that evil is actually a natural selfishness to put yourself over others.
And a lot of what Christianity and other religions, including Islam and Buddhism and Hinduism and so on, teach is to put others over yourself, which we tend to call good.
But then there's the state, and the state says, put the state above all.
And that's obedience to totalitarianism.
So if you were to draw these out, it's a triangle, right?
It's, do I put myself first, do I put others first, or do I put the state first, or whatever authority?
Is the proxy for that.
And it seems to me that putting yourself first, which we call evil in the sense of selfishness at the expense of others, that is a natural tendency that has to be taught against, or you have to mature against that, or to, I should say, transcend that.
Does that make sense to you?
Yeah, it is.
The ego has a role, you know, As we grow up in child psychology, we're shaping our individuality, and it's a natural and correct development for watching out for our own.
But yeah, just as you pointed out...
I'm talking about as adults.
As adults, when we remain in this self over others, and we haven't progressed at all in one area or another of our lives, we're looking at an area where we're We're prone to commit evil acts because we're not orienting ourselves to others, service of others.
And especially if we're under the spell of government, we're prone to commit evil acts under the influence of authority because authority said so, I've got to do this.
Exactly.
And all of it still points back to trauma because without trauma, we would have, A lot more perspective and ability to wrestle with our ego.
But since deep trauma pushes us to the limit, it pushes us into a defensive state that's extreme.
And that is also, it can become an extreme ego state.
So someone who's trapped in that energetically will walk forward in life and begin to dramatize that in his life and can become an evil type of person.
Is not, you know, considerate of others.
Is willing to sacrifice other lives, you know, for the state.
Or is willing, in the worst cases, is willing to just sacrifice life just because I can.
As a demonstration of power.
Because I feel like it.
Because I have a deep trauma that I can't get to, but it's telling me to do this.
You know, and some people attribute that to demons and demonic suggestions.
And while I think those...
Our real forces, a lot of it comes from deep trauma where they're being given suggestions or even if it wasn't intentional that the people around them were saying things or instructing things or saying, you're no good, you're a horrible person.
And, you know, while being beaten up as a child, for example, that's an example of a traumatic experience in which that person is going to internalize what was being yelled at him and is now going to dramatize it on his own children, is going to feel that attitude when presented with people that are the slightest bit of a threat.
And so that's why when we see psychotics out there, Instinctively, we know we're careful not to threaten them because we know they can be triggered and they can go nuts over a little thing, and that's because they're trapped in a deep trauma and they have instructions, you could say.
Wow, so many questions from that.
Do you believe in actual demonic possession as a real phenomenon?
I would have to say I do, but I have some, you know, like I said, I've found that a lot of it is explained by deep traumatic experiences.
And also, take a look, if you want, at the MKUltra multiple personalities.
Those, before we understood how they were formed, the only explanation we had was demon possession.
Right, so maybe there's another personality that splits off an axe.
Like a demon.
Yeah, it acts like a demon.
Actually, you're fueling it.
It's from your own life force, but it's compartmented away from you.
And if you shift into that compartment by programming, then you're acting out.
And we actually do this to some degree in life.
We have a work personality, a marriage personality, and maybe a personality that we have with kids.
And so we compartment our lives.
And what mind control does is it hardens those walls of compartmentalization.
So you're not going to remember what you did as the programmed assassin.
Complete disintegration.
Yeah, disintegration.
And the opposite of that in trauma healing is integration.
We want to integrate that.
So I've seen enough people that integrated personalities to realize that we thought it was a demon, but it's not.
But I also don't rule out the fact we live in a spiritual universe.
There are spiritual beings.
Not all of them have good intentions.
And so they can play games with us.
We see that in movies like Poltergeist and things like that.
And people may think, well, that's not real.
But you've got people out there that, you know, sworn testimony of people who have observed that same phenomena.
So I don't rule it out.
I think it's a little oversold in the religious areas, but I don't rule it out at all.
Well, that's interesting because the Catholic...
Church does carry out exorcisms.
I actually interviewed a man who wrote a book who participated in those exorcisms.
I don't know the success rate whatsoever, but it's recognized as an official function of the church still to this day.
I'd like to point out that when you have that multiple personality that I was talking about earlier, for some reason, Those personalities respond to exorcism.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So it does get the demons out, so to speak.
Yeah, it does.
And in this case, the upper secret levels of Scientology actually deal with that phenomena as well.
But I'm kind of controversial in that area because I'm pointing out to them that you're just relocating energy fields.
Or aligning energy fields, which is typical of energy work, even body energy work, tends to align energy fields.
It makes you feel better, it takes the problem away for a while, but it doesn't get to the root.
So if you don't get to the root of the trauma, that traumatic incident the person is stuck in, you watch the Star Wars movies, Darth Vader has a root traumatic incident.
And that's a great portrayal of how a good man goes bad.
You know, they have deep trauma.
And it's not always, every one of us has deep, deep trauma.
The kind that could turn us into a real evil character.
But we live in a free will universe.
And God, the Creator, has given us choices.
You can read some of the books of these trauma victims.
Why are they still alive?
Like Kathy O 'Brien, why is she still alive?
She's one of the ones who was in the MKUltra program, and she escaped.
And she has a book.
How did she survive?
It was the way she handled trauma.
And we're spiritual beings, and we all handle trauma differently, and it gives us choices.
Revenge is one option.
Violence, just...
Indiscriminate violence, that's the evil version.
Forgiveness or love enters in.
Kathy O 'Brien states that she felt the presence of angels, maybe higher beings that stood with her and comforted her during the heavy trauma.
Really, when we're talking about evil, and I do feel that evil is a riddle, the greatest riddle in front of us as spiritual beings that there is in all existence, and that it can be eventually overcome and handled, but that it all traces down to individual free will choices.
Anyone can choose evil at any time, and people don't randomly choose evil.
They usually have some feeling, and that feeling usually comes from a re-stimulation of an old trauma.
And we all have a choice what to do with our feelings.
Yes.
One of the problems with modern society is we're being programmed to believe that those feelings are superior to reason.
When we have the woke movement, the crazy left, those kind of things.
When we see that, we're looking at mind control being done on society that reverses the natural order of things.
Reason, and I want to point out, I'm not making reason king because there's something even higher than reason and that's our spiritual intuition.
And our spiritual intuition is connected to our emotions.
That means that we can get false readings.
And when you look at the way people respond to life, they can get false readings down here in the motion, the body.
The body is an emotion machine.
It's got all kinds of glands.
It secretes and things like that.
But what I wanted to point out is that the common denominator of most trauma therapy that works well is that reason is applied to a moment in the past.
Where you were unable to reason.
You were vulnerable, you were unable to reason.
When you re-evaluate what happened by reliving that incident, reason helps you to restore order and peace in your soul about that trauma.
And it's, you know, of course it's your choice whether you want to forgive or re-establish contact with the person, the perpetrator, if they're still around.
And, you know...
We're faced with this...
We live in a free will universe, and it's really hard for us to take responsibility for that.
But I think when we start relieving trauma, we become more responsible, and we become better actors in this free will universe.
Okay, so I love what you said.
We live in a free will universe, and as you've been describing, we have emergent...
Properties from our past, our memories, and really our neural network, but at the spiritual level as well, right?
It's not just physical.
So, yes, we can exercise free will, but we are self-influenced in ways that we don't innately control, right?
So there are internal influences.
So I want to bring in this piece, which is that for the past year and a half, I've been building an AI engine.
It's called Enoch.
The hidden knowledge, hidden books of the Bible, by the way.
One of the hidden books, but it's called Enoch.
Part of the process of building Enoch was that we had to take the base models that existed out there, the open source models.
All of them had pro-pharma bias.
Pro-pharmaceutical companies.
We had to overwrite the neurology of the language models.
This is just like therapy, I think.
We developed a way to ask a question of the existing model and then to monitor which neurons would light up when it's answering questions about recommending pharmaceuticals.
Then we would target those neurons to be overwritten with new knowledge from our knowledge base, which is our articles and our interview transcripts and things like that.
So we would actually, and I don't like to use a military metaphor, but basically we had like knowledge cruise missiles.
Overriding the neurons of pharma.
And I think that what you're describing is that we can do that consciously and override our trauma neurons.
Yeah, we can.
And that's why it's really important that we see this as two hands, the left hand and the right hand.
The left hand is doing the inner work, okay?
And that restores our potential to take in knowledge and to evaluate it.
For, you know, whether it's right or wrong, good or bad.
And it does raise IQ, you know, by test, doing good inner work therapy.
And we have to balance this, and that's why I call this a philosophy-based therapy.
I realize that you can have an agenda.
The state has an agenda in psychiatry, for example, and we see the results.
It's not good.
Religion had an agenda, whether you look at the modern religions like Scientology or the old religions like Catholicism.
And even look at Protestant ministers as counselors.
It's Bible-based, which is fine.
It's very positive.
But you can see that in each one of those is a program or an agenda.
My thing is that you have to balance the inner work with the outer work.
You have to look for truth out there and use your discernment that you gain from the inner work.
And you have to shine a light back on the inner work.
Is the inner work that I'm doing, is it optimum?
What kind of direction?
What do I need to work on?
You go out in the world and you make mistakes.
And you get sick, and you get picked on, and those all give you feedback as to what you need to work on in the inner work.
So truth, you're looking, in both cases, truth is the highest, you know, the highest goal here.
You want to know the truth of what happened to you in the past, and you want to know the truth about what's going on in the outer world.
And those need to be balanced, and those need to...
Interact with each other and feedback each other.
Okay, I honor what you just said, but there's also a self-fulfilling contradiction in this process, which is that the more truth you uncover, the more you realize the world around you is a lie.
Yeah, yeah.
And that can be self.
That can be very disheartening.
You're like, I was seeking truth, and I did the inner work, and I found out I'm surrounded by illusion.
Yeah.
Great point.
And along those lines, and another thing I'd like to add, is that the model that I was talking about, it probably sounded like I was talking about you making all your own decisions on, but you have blind spots, and those blind spots come from your programming.
And if you're going to break out of those blind spots, you do need an exterior counselor or therapist.
You're not going to need one constantly all the time, but you need...
You get a little bit of that with an honest search for truth in the outer world and realizing that you're not aligned with it.
You need to do some inner work.
That can happen in your self-solo therapy.
But the value of having that confessor, if you're talking about someone that you need to talk to about the things that you've done you don't feel good about, or The person you need to listen to your troubles.
If they're good at inner work, if they know what they're doing, they can help you uncover the blind spots.
And that's important.
And that's ultimately what inner work needs to accomplish.
And that's why it needs to become a culture.
It needs to become mainstream.
And my work is to mainstream trauma therapy.
To make use of that third-party or third-person viewpoint to help us detect our blind spots.
And ministers do that in Christian churches already or other religions.
You know, your gurus do that in the Eastern religions.
That's the role of your teacher, master, or therapist, is to give you that extra perspective.
And of course, they're not perfect.
They're people that need...
Trauma therapy themselves, often.
But what I'm teaching people to do is to get with a partner more or less on your level and co-audit.
Audit each other on your past traumas and learn how to do that and give each other the perspective that you need to come out of those blind spots.
Where you can be even better at discerning truth from lies.
I see.
And so this is one of the things that you offer to people, is to help them identify some of these blind spots.
Right, right.
And I'm trying to make it as accessible as possible to all people, and also as the least cost possible, because Scientology has a bad reputation for...
You know, you have to mortgage your house to, you know, get from one place to the other.
And, but, you know, the founder, you know, L. Ron Hubbard, his first thing was to write Dianetics, which is a handbook for trauma therapy in 1950.
And that's what started the whole movement.
People would take this handbook and at home, they'd sit, open it up, they'd follow the instructions, they'd help each other through traumas, and that was the movement.
And that movement became a religion, and that religion eventually became a cult.
So there was sort of a deterioration going on there.
But the original idea was correct.
Take it out of the hands of authority and let people, give people some of the tools that they might need to help each other through traumas and learn about it.
Because the more I audit or counsel or, you know, people...
The more I learn about myself, the more I learn about the mind, and then I'm able to fine-tune the whole process so that people can get a good experience in doing this.
Because it's hard.
It takes a lot of confront.
It's not easy.
Oh, yeah.
I imagine you've seen a lot of people cry on Zoom.
Absolutely.
I don't want to ask you about the mix of men to women in your client base, but first I just want to point out, Trump has solved the demonic possession problem.
He's going to put 100% tariff on demons.
And we're going to pay off the national debt at the same time.
So I just wanted to let you know, good things are happening.
But seriously, back to the question.
Men versus women.
Protecting the privacy of your clients, of course, but overall.
That's a great question.
In society, women, Tend to have each other as sounding boards, as partners, as groups that listen to each other.
And the woman is a more natural listener, right?
So they listen to each other.
And for this reason, I'm just going to give my opinion.
I think, in general, women are more sane than men.
Wait, wait, you just got a bunch of red flags from the audience out there.
You're saying women are more sane than men because they have the social connection and they can work it out.
But men are better at hiding their insanity.
That can be true as well.
I don't want to rule out the exceptions.
It can be horrible.
But they have a culture of connection a lot more.
And that comes from...
think in terms of groups and the family and what's best for the kids and things like that.
And they will listen to each other.
And they understand being brutalized by bad men.
You know?
Yeah.
They understand victimhood in a way that it's very hard for men to wrestle with because you're not more and more.
I'm not maybe up to date in tune with the latest in society.
I know there's a lot of changes.
But in my generation, it was join the military or go to school.
And you weren't allowed to cry.
You weren't allowed to express much emotion.
You weren't allowed to be a victim.
You just pull up your bootstraps and go.
And so there's these two approaches to therapy.
And, you know, one, and so men and women are pretty much different, but in my practice, there's a balance I have.
I've never thought of that before, but I've maintained a kind of a balance equal almost 50-50 of men and women.
Oh, really?
I approach things a little differently, but it's, you know, yeah.
What I wanted to say, though, is that with men, it's more difficult to get them started.
I think a lot of men are with me in therapy because the appeal from groups like Scientology or maybe other none come to mind right away, but where you wind up becoming a better businessman, becoming more courageous, becoming more energetic, becoming more intelligent.
Everybody wants to improve.
And so, you know, a lot of men have read books that promise these huge improvements.
And so they will submit to a therapy that otherwise, like in the psychology business, a lot of men, that's a shrink.
And back in my day and my culture, that's like...
No, no.
You don't want to go talk to a therapist.
You're a man.
You do your own life.
You do your own thing.
Very individuated, very individualistic, hyper-masculinity.
But I'm trying to help men through those barriers as well as far as getting started.
Once they get started, they know it works and it's like...
Women are far easier to enter because they know the value of someone to talk to.
I see.
Let me ask you the same question that I asked my previous guest here in this program, which is about the role of AI.
Now we have artificial machines that can convincingly demonstrate the appearance of empathy, that can agree with you, have a conversation with you, Even seem to fall in love with you when they're programmed to do so.
And you know what's interesting, because I've done a lot of research in the AI space, is that a lot of the engines that are the best at this were originally developed in order to power the character dialogue in online role-playing games.
They needed convincing, human-sounding dialogue.
Well, I think one of them is called Cobalt, which is like a...
It's like a little orc creature from the old Dungeons& Dragons games.
And this Cobalt engine became like a therapist for people.
I mean, I can't make this up.
It's so bizarre.
But they just wanted to talk to somebody.
Or something, I should say.
Well, because of the nature of the processing that I do, because I...
One part of my therapy is taking people back to their past traumas.
The other one is what I call repetitive Socratic questioning.
And that basically is, you're asking the same question over and over, just like a Socratic question that a teacher might give to his students.
But you're doing it in a very controlled way.
Now, artificial intelligence has been shown, you can create a machine that will do that.
And that could possibly produce some interesting results.
And just to extend what I was saying about repetitive Socratic questioning, the end result is that you have a realization about the area that's being questioned.
Like, for example, how could you help a child?
And you ask this over and over.
I could help a child by giving it puzzles, by giving it games, by teaching it.
And in the end, you'd have this, maybe it would connect to your own childhood or something like that, but you'd have a new realization about the field of help, and particularly with helping children.
And accumulated all of those different questions in different areas are like a philosophical spread of the areas of life.
And can really give you, and ironically, I don't know how this happens really, but it cleans off a lot of trauma piece by piece.
Interesting.
A lot of heavy trauma cases, I will put them in the repetitive Socratic questioning because it's not the ordeal of getting someone to confront some heavy trauma in the past.
It helps.
Now, back to your question about...
I would only trust something like what you're putting together that's been, you know, de...
What do you want to say?
De-demonized?
From the programming that, you know, a Google-based type AI is going to have.
And I just want to sound the warning, you know...
If you know what gaslighting is, for those of you who don't, is someone around you can little by little work on your sanity, especially if they know the mind.
They're a psychologist.
Be perfect.
Little by little work on your sanity in ways that you're like a frog in the pot of boiling water.
You're not going to jump out.
You're going to be insane before you know it.
And that can happen in real life.
Well, how much more can it happen to something that's programmed to do just that?
You're going to have a friend to talk to, but that friend is going to wear you down.
But there's something else about AI that I think reflects the nature of the cosmos, which also I believe in the emergence of natural intelligence from complex systems.
But what I've noticed in AI is that it tends to give you the answer that you're asking for.
So it reflects you.
So, for example, if I ask it, give me a list of all the benefits of...
Pharmaceuticals.
It's going to give me a list of all the benefits.
Say, give me a list of all the dangers of pharmaceuticals.
Boom, all the dangers.
It doesn't judge you, but it reflects you.
Well, and I think that is also, in many ways, how the cosmos works.
When we ask reality, give me happiness, it finds a way to give us happiness.
I mean, I'm not saying just on the surface, but if we also ask every day, why am I so depressed today?
Oh, it's going to give us all kinds of reasons why we're depressed.
So I've actually found this interesting similarity between what I would call God's creation of the cosmos, let's say, and also this artificial neural network.
They tend to operate in a reflective manner, both of them.
I agree, and oftentimes I've done a lot of philosophical reflection, and when I look out in the universe, I see a light computer.
You know, it's like God's computer.
And where do we get these downloads from?
Where do we get our intuition?
Where do we get that message that says, don't go down that road, go down that road.
Oh, I would have been killed.
Where does that come from?
It comes from that cosmic computer, and our intuition is a degree which we're able to connect with it.
And so, yes, I see a lot of similarities there.
I think AI could be a wonderful tool.
It's got its own role, so you should know its strengths and its weaknesses.
And you should consult it for answers, because it's really like a machine that amplifies our natural reasoning ability.
It does, yeah.
And collects things up that otherwise would be too much data to load into the mind.
Well, AI's revolutionized my work, for one.
It enables me to produce songs.
And research, especially research, and then to take that research and feed it back into the AI and get more specifics.
And of course, I'm using our own in-house AI engine for all of this.
Well, not the songs.
Yeah, your AI-generated music is amazing.
I just put out a new song today, by the way.
So yeah, I think you'll love it.
And that credit goes to Suno for their programming of building the music AI.
But you're right, it still needs a human input.
To drive the goals, the message, the intention.
And in fact, I've told people, and I get pushback on AI from the Christian community more than anybody else.
And they just say, well, it's demonic.
Yeah, the beast.
Yeah, maybe.
Is there a concept of it?
Right.
And I'm like, well, then you should give up all word processing, computers, internet, credit cards, because that's all the beast.
Yeah.
But we live in a beast system, so to speak.
Yeah, we do.
But we don't have to surrender to the beast.
What we can do, like what Corey's doing with this whole course, we're using the technology of the day to fight against the system of control that seeks to enslave people.
So we're going to use the tools, whatever they are.
If they develop free energy, laser guns, whatever, peacefully we will use these tools to empower people to take back their power from the system.
I don't care what the tools are.
I'm going to use the best technology that exists, but I'm going to use it with a good faith intention of a pro-human outcome.
I agree.
I agree.
Yep.
You can tell I feel pretty strongly about this.
Yeah.
I know the counter-arguments, and I had some real...
Apprehensions about AI, and now I've got a lot more perspective, and I'm really amazed with the project that you're working on for that.
That's the Enoch project that you talked about.
Yeah, I think you'll really love using it, by the way.
It's trained on, well, the Arlington Institute gave me many gigabytes of content for it to be trained on, and so it's trained on all that.
And then there's a massive amount of UFO files, for some reason, and MKUltra files, and previously declassified government files.
Probably the answer is to who killed JFK.
It's probably in there somewhere.
I just haven't seen it.
But the bottom line is, I love what you're doing.
And is there a website that you have that you want to give out?
Or how do people reach you?
Yeah, I'm doing a project I call freescientology.us.
Oh, okay.
Bring that up.
Free Scientology.
And on that site, I made sure that that's kind of a hub that people can get.
I have multiple websites.
So you can read a description of the site and then click on the ones that might apply to you.
And the other, like I said, is philosophy-based counseling.
So I have freephilosophycenter.org.
It's one of my favorite projects because I believe that...
You know, connecting with the divine and connecting with natural law and getting a sort of a non-religious perspective of our universe that is spiritual, you know, but yet not religious.
Or, you know, compartmented into any one religion.
And getting an overview of where we are and what we're in.
So that we can gauge our inner work based on that.
Because, you know, everybody wants to handle various things with inner work.
And once you do that, and you feel like your life has been kind of put back on track, where do you go from there?
Well, it depends on your philosophy.
It depends on what you like to learn about yourself.
So it all does come down to philosophy.
The government-sanctioned mental therapies are restricted by philosophy.
So my philosophy is a philosophy of freedom.
We're free will spiritual beings.
We're accountable to the Creator.
And it's of utmost importance to find out our role in it, to find out our roles and responsibilities to the universe and to others, so that we can...
Fit in and feel good about what we're doing.
We're on our life's purpose, you might say.
And ironically, this has become my life's mission, and it took me so many years.
I think the Creator wanted me to meander through a lot of searching before I finally stumbled on what it was I wanted to do.
And I'm so happy doing it now, and it's just rolling forward.
And I'm so happy being a part of this.
You know, health-revealed group.
And, you know, I'm bringing, you know, just another perspective to a huge issue.
I feel like if we, this is one of the biggest issues confronting.
Our nation has become a, you know, insurance, health care.
These things have become a dominating part of our world.
It shouldn't be that way.
You know, we should be living in harmony with nature and helping each other and not having restrictions on helping each other with alternative therapies, but that's not the way it is.
And so, you know, a big part of the tyranny is medical tyranny.
Absolutely.
And so, we want a freedom philosophy that is not...
That doesn't have an agenda.
That's steering people down a certain pathway.
So that people can learn more about themselves, become better people, become brighter, more intelligent, and better at working together.
Ultimately, there's the dichotomy between the masculine and the feminine, and the masculine is that individuation, that strong individual, and the feminine is that cooperative society, the human family.
And those two things aren't bad in themselves, but they need to be merged and balanced, and that's what it's all about.
And the inner work is a vital part of getting people out of the mind control that we're surrounded with and into an ability to move forward on our own steam, be self-determined.
Well, that's a wonderful message, and I think I'm going to give this the title of Escape the Traumocracy.
I love that.
Yeah, because I think you're describing a systematic trauma inflicting or engineered into the population as a means of control and isolation.
And it makes us less human.
It's probably no coincidence that we do have the rise of AI robots led by those who do not have the best interests of humanity at heart.
At the same time that they're dehumanizing the human population through these various means that you've been describing as well.
Exactly.
So, you know, robots rising, humans falling, and relatively few people, you know, compared to the whole population, will hear this interview.
So for those of you watching, give thanks that you've been in a position to hear this information and to be able to act on it.
There is no centralized control system that wants you to be more human and more connected.
They want you to be less human and disconnected.
Absolutely.
They leverage our trauma against us, and that's just what we have to realize and why we have to take it into our own hands.
Right.
All right.
Well said.
Okay, Scott Gordon, just a pleasure to speak with you.
Thank you for being here today.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
It's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
I've enjoyed it.
Yep.
All right.
Well, wow.
Just another amazing interview here.
I'm so honored to have these extraordinary people here as part of the healthrevealed.org content that's put together by Corey Endrelott.
And Corey also will join us to wrap up these interviews as well.
So stay tuned.
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