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March 14, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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J6 political prisoner Stewart Rhodes joins Mike Adams for shocking interview on being TORTURED...
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com, and I am joined by Stuart Rhodes, the J6 former prisoner and, I believe, founder of Oath Keepers?
That's right.
Yeah, founder of Oath Keepers.
Hey, good to see you again, brother.
It's good to see you, Stuart.
Now, it's been years you have been incarcerated by what I would consider to be, you know, an absolutely lawless, tyrannical regime of authoritarians.
I mean, my God.
It's like being transplanted into the Soviet Union.
Yeah.
Tell us about it.
Well, so we went to J6, January 6, 2021, to do security for two permitted events on Capitol grounds.
One was for Latinos for Trump.
The other one was for Ali Alexander's Stop the Steal rally.
And members of Congress were going to be speaking there, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Josh Hawley, and others.
That's why we were there in D.C. That's what we've been doing nine times prior in Washington, D.C., including both the big November and December rallies.
Same drill.
Private events all around the Capitol, permitted events all around the Capitol.
That's why people were going towards the Capitol that day, because there were already planned, permitted events.
I believe it was like six permits were pulled all around the Capitol, just as it had been in November and December.
Okay, so let's just go through this step by step.
It was a permitted event, permitted by the federal government, and you were asked to provide security.
That's right.
By which group?
Latinos for Trump.
Okay.
And then that's Bianca Gracia here in Texas.
And the second one was Ali Alexander.
Okay.
And he had done multiple, multiple Stop the Steal rallies.
He called it Stop the Steal.
Right.
He's done great work.
And you were not bringing firearms in as security, right?
You weren't carrying firearms.
No, we have them all at our hotel in Virginia, as we always do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
So you're just there.
As a body to help provide security for a permitted event.
Right.
So we had a PSD detail on Roger Stone because he was the keynote speaker for the Ali Alexander event.
What's a PhD detail?
No, PSD. Personal security detail.
Oh, okay.
PSD. Personal security detail.
Got it.
So we had, in addition to guarding the two venues, we also had men that were tasked with protecting Roger Stone and also another set of tasks for protecting Ali Alexander.
Okay.
And then our Florida chapter, led by Kelly Meggs and Kenny Harrelson, They were tasked with escorting all of Alexander's speakers from the VIP section at Trump's rally on the Ellipse.
They went in there with them, and they were escorting them back towards the Capitol to go attend their own rally and speak at their own rally.
That's what they were doing that day.
That's why the Oath Keepers were there.
And you never entered the Capitol building?
I spoke at the Latinos for Trump event that morning, 11 o'clock.
Myself and Kelly Sorrell, who was the volunteer Oath Keepers general counsel, we both spoke about election fraud, calling out the election as stolen.
Illegal and unconstitutional.
Which it was.
It was stolen.
Absolutely.
So I made the same arguments that John Eastman made.
And I did a bunch of open letters to President Trump making the same arguments that he should invoke the Insturrection Act, use that authority to go and seize the evidence of the election.
If he had done that...
Then we never would have had to endure four years of hell and destruction under Biden.
And also do a mass declassification and exposure of the deep state.
And what I wrote in that one open letter...
Which should have happened at that time.
And it still should.
I wrote that the secrets...
This is how, like, J. Edgar Hoover was in office for life over the FBI, right, as director, because everyone knew he had all their dirty secrets.
He bugged all their hotel rooms.
He knew who they were sleeping with.
That was back then, in days of, you know, the old wiretaps.
Imagine what it's like now at the NSA. Yeah, exactly.
So I said in one open letter, I said that the secrets are the swamp water.
In D.C. that the swamp creatures swim in.
It both protects them and controls them.
As long as they do what they're told, they become a millionaire.
But if they get out of line, they can be ruined.
So that's what's going on.
A massive blackmail operation.
Absolutely.
Both bribery and blackmail.
Well, Bondi still hasn't released the Epstein files.
Right now.
I mean, she keeps saying, I have a stack.
They're on my desk.
Like, every day there's another tease.
We're like, come on.
Just put them up to the public.
Yeah, release them.
Come on.
What I asked Trump to do, President Trump, is to use it as an absolute power the president has to declassify anything.
That's one reason why they don't want him back in there.
That's what they fear the most, actually.
Really?
Declassification?
I think so.
I think so, yes.
Declassification and exposure.
So, is he going to do that, you think?
I hope he does.
What's he waiting on?
Well, that's a good question.
So here's the problem, is that I think Cash Patel, he's been talking about declassification, so I think it's percolating in that circle now that this is a tool we can use.
But they need to just go ahead and throw the doors open and do it.
And it shouldn't be done with leaking out a little bit here and there.
They should go seize it all and do it WikiLeaks style to the public online.
Right.
Completely agree.
So that's one reason why I was put in prison, because they don't like that.
Right.
For all the years that you and others were incarcerated, many of us on the outside were, of course, we were being intimidated, we were being threatened, we were being censored.
Some of us really feared that we would be arrested.
Some of you were.
I mean, Steve Baker was arrested.
Yeah, exactly.
There were arrests.
Absolutely.
After his story came out about the pipe bombers and about the two police officers that committed a perjury in my case, Harry Dunn and Lazarus, that's when they arrested him.
Right.
But this entire time, myself and many others repeatedly called for pardon for you by name and all the J6 people in addition.
I didn't know many of the other people's names, by the way.
We repeatedly called for pardons.
It seemed like a very long shot early on, right?
Did you think that you might have to spend decades in prison?
I had to prepare myself mentally for that.
Because, you know, it goes back to prison-of-war experiences throughout history.
The guys that said, oh, no, we'll be home by Christmas, and then Christmas comes and goes, and that crushes them.
So I prepared myself mentally for that.
But I knew in my heart, I had faith, that I would not spend 18 years in a friggin' prison.
You were sentenced to 18 years.
18 years, right.
It's for my free speech.
It's just purely identity crime.
Let's put a look at J6. Is a wag the dog Reichstag fire event, manipulated event, to distract from what they were doing.
First, to distract from their theft of the election.
100%.
They accuse you of what they were doing, projection.
Right.
So that's the main point of it, is to distract attention from what they did and to stop any legitimate challenges in Congress.
Which they did.
Which they did.
And the other one was to stop President Trump from ever being able to hold office again.
And then they tried to use lawfare against Trump during those four years to throw him in prison.
Well, they tried to first disqualify him under the 14th Amendment, and then if they couldn't do that, put him in prison.
If they couldn't do that, then discredit him and the American public to make him unelectable.
That didn't work either, which is why they had to try to kill him twice.
Absolutely.
And they also wanted you and everybody else who knows what's going on in prison, completely silenced, during the 2024 election season.
So that you couldn't do interviews like this.
Right, absolutely.
Well, so, I mean, the whole point of, so picture like a false mob conspiracy case with Trump cast as the mob boss and lieutenants cast as, you know, Ricky Tarrio, leader of the Proud Boys, myself, leader of the Oath Keepers, cast as his lieutenants, and we're all, with our men are foot soldiers in the assault, right?
That's the accusation, right?
Yeah, that's the false narrative that's set up.
Right.
The easiest marker for how that was true is February 16, 2021, Benning Thompson filed a lawsuit on behalf of himself and other members of Congress.
This is the guy that went on the chair of the J6 Select Committee.
He filed a lawsuit.
That's only weeks after the J6 happened, alleging a conspiracy between Trump, Giuliani, Proud Boys, and Oath Keepers to attack democracy.
And disenfranchised black voters.
That was the narrative set.
Did Liz Cheney go along with that?
Oh yeah, sure.
They're all in there.
That's how early the narrative was set.
So they said, okay, here's where we want to get to.
We want to create this false reality.
How do we get there?
Don't pound too much.
It'll get picked up.
But was Nancy Pelosi in on this?
Was the Capitol Police in on this?
Were elements of Secret Service in on this?
Yeah, I think so.
That's why your chats are all disappeared, right?
All the Secret Service chats are disappeared too.
Remember that?
What do you mean the Secret Service chats disappeared?
The Secret Service text messages were deleted.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, right.
So, do you think...
Well, I've got so many questions for you, and thank you for taking the time to be here.
No problem.
You know, I thank God that Trump pardoned you and others, but...
Well, I've got a commutation.
You have a commutation, so you still have a felony record.
There's 14 of us that got a commutation instead of a pardon.
I see.
Really?
Including two Oath Keepers who pled to seditious conspiracy, who rolled over and agreed to admit to a crime they did not commit, which furthered the narrative, and agreed to lie against me to further the narrative that I planned on attacking democracy since November.
So both of them sold out.
They got no prison time.
They were given probation only when they were sentenced in December of 2024, which is when Judge Mehta finally sentenced them.
But they got pardons.
So this is what the way the FBI and the DOJ did this is they threatened individuals to say, well, if you turn against Stuart Rhodes...
You go home.
Yeah, you won't.
You spent a day in jail.
That's right.
And then they used those admissions to push out to the media that all these people are admitting that...
See, two more have admitted there was a plot.
And the whole point is to stick Trump like a cherry on top.
Right.
So me, the only person...
They sent a letter to all of us threatening life in prison.
And those two guys, that scared them enough, they dishonored themselves.
I refused to do that.
The co-defendants went to trial.
We all went to trial.
This is what's kind of perverse about this.
Those of us who went to trial and refused to bend the knee and kiss the ring and help with the false narrative, we are getting commuted only, not pardoned.
The ones who sold out, traitors basically, they got pardons.
I don't understand it.
And the trials were completely rigged.
And the jury was completely...
Well, they drew the jury pool from the victim pool.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And they were indoctrinated by the media narrative.
Sure.
Multiple judges said that the people of D.C. are the victims in this crime.
And they even described themselves as victims.
And yet they still denied venue change.
And they didn't want to have any precedent venue change that Trump could point to when they put him on trial.
That was the whole point.
Okay, so you said it felt like you were in the Soviet Union.
How many days were you incarcerated for?
Well, three years total, but over a year of that was solitary confinement.
Pre-trial, too.
From the day of my arrest, I was arrested January 13, 2022. It took them a whole year to go coerce false confessions and make false evidence against me.
They finally arrested me a year after J6. So January 13, 2022. But from that day forward, I was held in solitary confinement.
So presumption of innocence no longer exists?
No, no, no.
Of course not.
Of course not.
And at the same time, The U.S. under Biden and his corrupt regime was lecturing Russia about human rights.
Right, exactly.
Right.
While they were torturing you, essentially.
Our own State Department, when other countries hold American in solitary confinement, they condemn that as a form of torture, which is what it is.
Absolutely.
It's designed to break you.
It's designed to make you lose hope and then bend to their will.
What is it, like a six-foot?
Yeah, your concrete cell.
Your concrete box.
I went over a year, it was a year before I could walk outside under an open sky.
Unbelievable.
And a year before I could put my feet on the grass.
So, clearly, you were wrong, you were tortured, your civil rights were violated in so many ways.
Right.
I've heard other J6ers talk about suing the federal government.
Is that something that you might do?
Yeah, I might.
Like a lot of other guys, I've retained Mark McCloskey, the lawyer out of St. Louis.
Yes, that's right, St. Louis, Missouri.
Oh, yeah.
Wasn't he the guy that had the firearm on his porch?
Him and his wife.
Yeah, right.
And the state came after him.
They did.
They tried to hammer him.
So he knows what it's like.
And he's a hard-charging civil attorney, so we're going to be doing a lot of lawsuits, actually.
I have some defamation claims, too.
Let me...
Well, I would imagine.
Pretty big ones.
We've all been smeared and defamed for like the last 10 years by the mainstream.
And they're doing it to Elon Musk now as well.
But yes, one suit would be for wrongful arrest and wrongful imprisonment.
Yeah, right.
And malicious prosecution.
And it's all for politics.
Absolutely.
It's identity crime.
It's just like in the Soviet Union.
Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Let me give out your Give, Send, Go page right now, because you're trying to get your life back together.
Yep.
And you still have a felony record.
So that's the problem with the commutation.
I'm still a felon.
My priors were traffic tickets my entire life, no arrests, nothing.
So yeah, they hammered me with a...
I'm a felon right now, can't own firearms, can't vote here in Texas, won't be able to hold office if I wanted to hold office, public office.
And the worst part is I got a letter from the VA. While I was in solitary, I get a letter stating that all my veterans' benefits, I'm a service-connected disabled veteran, you know, broke my back in a parachuting accident.
They sent me a letter saying that all my disability payments were wiped out and I can no longer be buried in a veteran's cemetery.
That's what they told me.
That's unbelievable.
I mean, you served your country, and you were working to serve your country on January 6th in a peaceful, non-violent way.
Yeah, that's what we were there to do.
And the country...
Betrayed you.
No, not the country.
I mean, the regime betrayed you.
Well, who was in charge?
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, who was in charge of the country illegitimately at that time?
They betrayed you.
But your give, send, go is give, send, go.com slash what?
Gulf Alpha Foxtrot 5 Bravo.
G-A-F as in Foxtrot 5 B as in Bravo.
Right.
Okay.
G-A-F 5 B. All right.
So you need funds to get back on your feet.
It would help.
Absolutely.
I can imagine.
What are you doing now?
I'm also working for Condemned USA. So CondemnedUSA.com.
Let me bring that up.
And that's another worthwhile organization that I encourage people to donate and support.
All right.
CondemnedUSA.com.
Here it is.
And that was started by Trenus Evans, another J6 defendant.
He was charged with obstruction of Congress in 1512. Thankfully, he's knocked out by the Supreme Court.
But he went through it himself.
He knows what it's like.
And while I was a prisoner, you know, he and his organization helped me.
They helped provide attorneys, and also they picked me up when I got out of prison.
One of their employees came and picked me up.
Really?
Yeah, it's awesome.
So now I'm working for them as a national spokesman.
We still have lawfare going on.
At the state level.
Tina Peters is a good example out of Colorado.
We've got to free Tina Peters.
That is such a travesty of injustice.
Yeah, being put in prison because she's challenging, blowing the whistle on election fraud.
She witnessed it in 2020. She was preserving the data on the voting machines.
And that's why they threw her in prison.
So they couldn't destroy it and hide what they did.
She preserved the evidence.
After this horrific experience that you've been through, is it now your understanding that This republic was much further gone than you ever imagined?
Oh, no.
I knew it was bad.
I knew they were going to steal the election in 2020. Yes.
Yes.
In fact, I sat down.
Unfortunately, my friend David Roberts passed away this last year.
But I sat down for lunch with him and two of his friends in the summer of 2020, and I told them they're going to steal it, and they're going to use COVID to do it.
I could see it coming.
They didn't believe me, but unfortunately, I was right.
Well, they absolutely rigged it.
Yeah.
This time I think we made it too big to rig.
That's what happened here.
I think they would have tried it again.
They didn't have sufficient excuse to pull out all the stops.
But it just goes to show you that if Trump and Team Trump, if they don't fix the election rigging before the midterms, if they don't expose all of the grift and the money laundering and the financial crimes, which some of that has begun, right?
They've shut down most of USAID. But if they don't go full speed ahead right now...
We could still lose this republic.
Absolutely.
That's why the exposure is step one.
That's why I'm still calling for a mass declassification and exposure.
Public data dump, public WikiLeaks-style exposure.
Just throw the closets open, dump all the skeletons out in the street, let the chips fall where they may.
And it has to be done with judiciary, with Wall Street, with big banking, all of that, as well as the legislature.
And the executive branch and all the agencies.
All of it needs to be exposed.
Look at what Elon Musk did with Twitter.
He threw the doors open and showed all the backroom wheeling and dealing with the CIA and DHS sitting right there and FBI. Totally.
So that's what we need to do with all the agencies.
Well, there are three Democratic senators that have so far announced they're not running for re-election.
And I believe that's because the financial ties have already been found.
Right.
And they've been sent, you know, like a little private...
Right.
Note.
That's great, but I want to go fast.
Yeah, I want to go fast, too, in terms of just restoring our constitutional republic.
Well, because you don't know what's going to happen.
Right.
We don't know.
Today is our obligation.
Tomorrow, we have no idea.
Right.
So I want to see them go fast.
Just like if you're doing a drug raid on a drug lab, for example, you want to move quick so they don't flush everything, right?
Right.
Same thing here.
The more time you give them, the more they're going to destroy all the evidence.
But your security experience may be necessary.
Now more than ever, because it seems like there are elements of the radical left that are openly talking about an armed revolt.
There are violent protests against Tesla dealerships right now happening.
Death threats against Elon Musk.
An InfoWars reporter was murdered the other night in Austin.
Other InfoWars reporters are being doxed right now.
Everyone needs to have a head on a swivel.
And the easiest place to be ambushed is your own parking lot.
Your own driveway, because that's where they know.
It's like a watering hole for a deer.
Of course.
So they know you're going to be.
And people tend to relax.
Oh, I'm home now.
You're not home until you're in bed.
That's when you're home.
Well, even then, you can still be doxxed in bed, you know?
But the point is, though, is that you can't relax until you're inside your house, make sure your house is clear, and it's locked down.
Only then can you ever go out of condition yellow.
You really have to be in awareness.
Very true.
But my question is, how...
How crazy do you think the radical left is going to get here?
Well, it's hard to say.
We had an open insurrection all of 2020. In fact, I think that was part of the successful coup.
Because there was a whistleblower in the Supreme Court that said when Texas sued Pennsylvania under original jurisdiction, the Supreme Court was supposed to step in and be the trial court in that dispute.
And they should have done what was done back in 2000 with Bush v.
Gore.
They should have said, okay, wait a minute.
You can't just do what you want and violate state law because that triggers Article 2. That's why we have a right to step in and say you've got to follow state law as written by them.
That's what they did in 2020 or 2000. But the Supreme Court in 2020 inducted that.
And the rumor out of the Supreme Court was that Roberts screamed at Alito and Thomas because they were like saying, hey, we have no discussion not to take the case.
And Roberts said, if we do this, if we were to, you know.
Give it to Trump.
They'll burn our cities down.
But Roberts is compromised.
Everybody knows that, right?
Sure.
But the point is, that's what he used.
He said, oh, they'll burn our cities down.
Nonsense.
And the other two, Kavanaugh and what's her name, Barrett, went along with him.
Well, Barrett's been a disappointment, too.
So what we want to look at is that all the 2020, the CHOP and the CHAZ and all the open insurrection all across the country was actually effective in getting the Supreme Court to go along with the steal.
Interesting.
That's what I'm saying.
And the Supreme Court did go along with this deal.
They ducked their responsibility, and that's why we're in a constitutional crisis.
And look, I would say, I mean, I'm going to bring in something else here.
I'm steeped in an AI project.
We're building an AI engine that's going to be released open source really soon.
So a conservative AI, right?
Well, yeah.
An AI that is a totally different training material than any other AI out there.
So actually our focus is nutrition and disease reversals and things like that.
But I've also trained it on history, like real history.
The policies of the Biden administration, which were anti-energy, closing down pipelines, closing down energy drilling and exploration, this actually set us behind in the AI race versus China.
It was a sabotage operation against our whole country.
I called him out as a CCC puppet.
That's what he was.
He certainly behaved that way.
All he was doing was what Xi Jinping wanted him to do.
Which is weak in our country across the board.
Every specter.
That's right.
That's exactly what he did.
Yeah, that's right.
In every spectrum, right.
We know that he had financial ties to Ukraine, but there were some, I remember there were also some CCP ties.
Absolutely.
To the tune of millions.
Yeah.
Tens of millions.
Yeah.
So he was the CCP's puppet and the globalist puppet.
So I look at it like a fight between the people of the world and the elites of the world, but the CCP had its own agenda.
These world elites align themselves with the CCP, but I think the CCP sees them as useful idiots.
They envision a Chinese world.
That's what I think is happening.
Well, and because of the four years of Biden and the stolen election, and they used the auto pen for Biden to sign all the laws on all the orders.
That was a loop puppet.
Total puppet.
He probably didn't even know what day it was, right?
But they were able to stall out the U.S. for four years and set us behind in so many areas.
And they also funneled a bunch of money through Ukraine, which got kickbacks to all the Democrats in the Senate.
And created the Russia boogeyman to then say, oh, anybody who disagrees with us is a Russian agent, is putting Russian propaganda.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
It's Crossfire Hurricane times a thousand.
Well, and what we're finding out now is that a lot of this really came out of London, right?
So the British deep state, MI6, was running a lot of Ukraine.
It's Five Eyes.
Yeah, it is five eyes.
Yeah, totally.
But they were also running the censorship regime.
We filed a lawsuit one year ago suing these NGOs and suing big tech and suing the Department of Defense.
And we're like half a million dollars into that lawsuit, by the way.
I still haven't had it heard by a judge yet.
You might never get it heard.
That's the problem with waiting.
That's the problem with going through, oh, we have to go through the process, we're going to file lawsuits, because a corrupt federal judge who himself has been compromised will stop you.
That's why you have to expose them.
You have to expose them.
If you don't expose them, you're not going to win.
I'm just telling you straight up.
No, you're right.
Unless you do a mass disclosure or exposure of all the corruption, including in the judiciary, you're not going to get it done through the normal process.
So Tulsi Gabbard just yanked the security clearances of those 51 officials.
That includes Jake Sullivan, by the way, in State Department.
I forgot everybody else that's on the list.
But Mallorca should be prosecuted, that's for sure, for the invasion.
But do you think that Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, And Bongino's in with the FBI. And Trump, do you think that they're actually going to get shit done that needs to get done?
I think they will, but I just wonder and I'm concerned that they won't go far enough, fast enough.
I think Tulsi Gabbard's awesome.
I like Cash Patel.
These are people that have proven themselves with their own personal integrity by bucking the system, being punished for it, and then still coming through.
They've proven themselves.
Like I did.
I went to trial and I refused to bend my knee.
Same thing.
And I would love to work for them.
I'd love to work with Tulsi Gabbard or Cash Patel on declassification.
Turn me loose on that.
I'll put my Yale Law School degree to good use.
I'll go through there.
Anything that's a legitimate operation where a legitimate national security interests are in danger and we've got people working overseas, of course, don't disclose all that.
But all the corruption and all the bribery and blackmail?
It all needs to be made public.
Yeah.
You expose it all, and people go, whoa, that could lead to a constitutional crisis, or who knows?
People couldn't take it.
We are in a crisis.
We're already in a crisis.
We're in a crisis.
We need to end the crisis by exposing the truth.
It's kind of like you're on a fire base and you're being overrun, and you need to call in fire on your own location.
We've got to get it done.
Well, you have an absolute purge.
When I first got out of prison, we drove straight down to the D.C. jail because they were still slow walking and letting some of the guys out.
Someone took days, like three or four days, for the final guys to get out of there.
And so we went down to protest that.
That's how I met Trennis Evans in person for the first time.
He's the guy I work for now.
And he said something I thought was very, very correct.
He said, hey, we've taken the high ground by electing Trump, but now we've got to push him into the sea.
If you just sit on the high ground and just sit there, there's going to be a counterattack.
That's right.
Absolutely.
You've got to be on the offensive.
You've got to be like Patton.
Patton was attack, attack, attack, attack.
That's what we need to be on.
Get inside their OODA loop and just be constantly attacking.
The corrupt federal judges are right now trying to block everything that Trump is doing.
Absolutely.
And I think, I just read this morning, I think Trump issued an executive order saying he's going to ignore all the lower court rulings until the Supreme Court rules.
And he should.
I agree.
He shouldn't ignore all those rulings.
I think he should say to the judges, you and what army?
At most, they should be effective only in that district.
Yeah, in the district.
So yeah, that's what should be going on.
They'll fight.
And here's the problem.
Judges, they're all lawyers.
That's the first problem.
That's the first problem in Congress, and I'm a recovering lawyer, I can speak on this.
Most lawyers are risk-averse.
That's a nice way of saying cowardly.
Yeah.
And they're also obsessed with their own personal prestige, position, power, and money.
Sure.
That's what they put first.
And so you have that throughout the judiciary, too.
They have an institutional, you know, they're an entrenched part of the deep state now, too.
Right.
You know, they see it as their job to preserve the power of judiciary.
And, of course, the Supreme Court itself never had the final say in the Constitution.
It's nowhere in the Constitution.
The whole idea of judicial review as far as being a final arbiter of the Constitution is nowhere in the Constitution.
They created out a whole cloth in the Barber v.
Madison case.
They created their own power.
So yes, the courts need to be trimmed back.
Definitely.
And Trump's the right guy to do that if he can follow through.
But he has to use exposure.
So look at my judge, Judge Mehta, for example, in the criminal trial.
He's the judge over all the Proud Boy and Oathkeeper prosecutions, and he's the judge for those civil suits.
I mentioned earlier, there's three civil suits.
One by D.C., one by some Metro, by Capitol Police officers, a group of them, and one by members of Congress.
All of them in front of Judge Mehta.
And Judge Mehta was the one, when I got out, I went to Congress to go meet with some members of Congress.
I was advocating for the release of Jeremy Brown, a Special Forces veteran oath keeper who was still being held.
And he was being held because they're saying, oh, the weapons charge, they planted grenades on him and railroaded him through false charges in Florida federal court.
Direct parallel to what they did with Trump.
They had charges in D.C., charges in Florida.
They raided his place in Florida.
And the same as Mar-a-Lago, they turned off the cameras on the way in.
They planted grenades on him.
They planted grenades.
Oh, yeah.
So I was in Congress meeting with Gus Bilirakis, his congressman, advocating for him getting out.
Judge Metta caught wind of that because the media mobbed me down underneath the Capitol and outside the cafeteria.
So I just stood there for an hour and talked to the media along with...
Ivan Raiklin, retired Special Forces Lieutenant Colonel.
Yeah, I've had Ivan on the show.
Yeah, so we just tag-teamed him on, you know, just spoke truth to power again about the stolen election.
So Judge Mehta saw that.
It was Wednesday the 22nd.
By Friday, he issued an order banning me from D.C. and saying, I can't go in the Capitol or in Washington, D.C. Wow.
So I don't know how he thought I was going to get in the Capitol.
Maybe I thought I'd parachute in.
But yeah, he did that.
But then Ed Martin, on Monday, that next Monday, Follow the motion saying, hey, you've got no discretion, no authority to do this.
You can't just ban people from exercising their free speech.
And furthermore, you're not respecting President Trump's intent.
His intent was all these men are commuted now.
They shouldn't be on supervised release at all.
And the judge backed down.
We were released from supervised release, which was good.
I was going to be at 18 months supervised release where I had to be with my family in California where I have some relatives.
I would have to stay there.
And also be restricted online with what I could and couldn't do online.
That's what they were going to do to me.
18 months of...
I wouldn't be able to be here today.
Unreal.
Yeah.
But thankfully, the judge backed down.
But it goes to show you, he was upset about what?
Did I attack the Capitol?
No.
He didn't want me having my free speech and my free association.
To talk to the press.
Yeah.
And by sentencing, he actually said, he said, you're smart, you're a charismatic and a compelling figure.
That's what makes you dangerous.
And then he quoted an interview I'd given from jail, a jailhouse interview, where I said, if you take away our ability to elect our president, then you put us back in the same position as the founding fathers.
We have no more representation.
We're on the same path as the founding fathers, which leads to resistance and nullification and resistance, and then eventually to self-defense.
That's what I said.
You're on the same path.
And he said, we can't have that.
He quoted me.
He said, we can't have that in our society.
I sentenced you to 18 years.
So it was very overtly about my free speech.
Very overtly.
By the way, that's what has just happened in Canada.
They just installed a new prime minister who's loyal to the crown, and almost nobody in Canada voted for the guy.
He's a total globalist.
Carney, I think, is his name.
What's his name?
Carney.
Something Carney.
Okay.
He's a Carney?
He's a Carney.
But he was the head of the Bank of England.
Okay.
For numerous years.
They dispatched him to Canada, put him in charge, they kicked out Justin Castro Trudeau, and they put Carney, they put an actual Carney in charge of the circus.
Right.
Which is Canadian politics.
That's interesting.
So they're doubling down on the globalism.
We're going to give you a friggin' bank leader.
Oh no, and I think it was, was it Freeland or whatever her name is in Canada?
She said that they need to partner with a nuclear nation to defend Canada against America.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, oh boy, that's a Canada war.
Is it Russia or China?
No, they want to partner with, like, Denmark or somebody.
I don't know who's got nukes that they will lend them to Canada.
We should just take Canada.
I think Trump plans to take Canada.
And, you know, look, if he decides to do that, I think Alberta will be with us.
So, you know.
Beyond a doubt.
Yeah.
We know that, you know, the friggin' Canadians let the Chinese go up there and do mountain training.
Absolutely.
No, probably Carney will let the CCP invade Washington State from the northern border.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's all kinds of crazy stuff.
But, okay, let's get back to you.
Right.
Number one, I mean, I thank God that you're relatively free, that you're here, that you're able to do this.
And that's who did it.
It was, you know, that's why I have this tattoo on my arm.
I got that.
I was going to ask you about your new ink.
That was President Trump's after he got shot.
Wow.
Because that was obviously a divine intervention.
Absolutely.
And it says fight?
Yeah, it says fight.
Can you extend your arm out here?
Do we have an overhead cam?
Can we kind of show it right here?
Can we show this a little bit closer in?
Yeah, I got that.
That's one of my prison tats.
This is a pretty talented artist there.
Yeah, not bad.
This is also a prison too.
A sobbing Statue of Liberty?
Yep.
With paratroopers?
I don't know if we're able to get that.
Let's keep going.
What is...
Oh, here we go.
Now, you see the shot there?
Yeah.
Okay, you can show people what that is, yeah.
Yeah, that's Trump raising his fist.
Let me get this water.
Get the water out of the way.
Show people the shot.
There it is.
There's Trump.
There he is.
So yeah, because that was the moment.
It was divine intervention, but it's also the moment, I believe, that I put the nail in the coffin for his vote for the working class man.
Every man in my unit cheered.
Blacks, Hispanics, and whites.
They're all like, you know, they said, hey, Trump's a legit OG. That's true.
That's a good compliment in jail.
You're an original gangster.
Right.
So they respect him as a man.
It's like that was a warrior's reaction.
He acted like a man.
Right.
He was pissed off.
Right.
Which is the right response to being shot at.
Yeah.
To be pissed.
Right.
What's...
What's next for you?
I mean, you already mentioned Condemned USA. Yeah, Condemned USA is a great outfit.
I mean, the ACLU will not help any of us.
No, of course not.
They're not helping Tina Peters.
They're not going to help anybody.
No.
They reveal what they really are.
They're communists.
Yeah, they're just communists.
So now that they think that they've won or have a chance of winning, they no longer care about free speech.
They used free speech when they were agitating out in the streets.
Right.
But not for us.
So yes, we need our own version of the ACLU, and that's what Condemned USA is.
I see.
So we're not just for federal stuff, but also for state lawfare.
Whether you're out there protesting against abortion clinics, or whether you're praying in public, and whatever it is you're being hammered for, they're going to hammer you anyway.
That's the problem, is that anywhere the left's in power, and now they've lost at the federal level, but they still have states.
They still have local, like Austin, for example.
You've got a situation where if you're in their jurisdiction, you're a conservative, they're going to commit a lawfare against you.
It's got to happen.
I've got to ask, are you or you with others, are you planning a book?
I am.
I'm writing a book right now.
We would get behind that, and I think that needs to be on the record.
There needs to be a full, detailed account for history and maybe for the lawsuits that you have coming up.
Right.
You and others.
Do you have a publisher for that book yet?
Not yet.
I'm still shopping for publishers.
I've got a co-author, Mel Holley.
I can recommend a couple of books off-camera.
Let's talk.
Whoever publishes it will help promote it.
I've got to get it done pretty quick.
I want to get it done pretty fast.
Are you using any AI to help you write it?
No.
I can help you with that.
I'm not sure I want to.
Well, I'm just saying that AI can do things like it can fix all your grammar and it can fix spelling.
Yeah, maybe for editing, but I don't want my voice to be...
No, no, no.
I'm just saying it can just speed the process of getting the book finished.
Right.
Yeah.
I think for editing it would be okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
Or for fine typos.
Well, the other thing that I've done with AI you might consider is if you record your voice in like five hours of your account...
And you ask the AI to just state that in the written word, but using your words, it can do a really good job of that.
I did a long form with Ivan Raiklund, about six hours total.
And then he had Grok go through it, and it was pretty good, actually.
Perfect.
Anyway, I'm just pointing that out because it's going to help you get this out more quickly.
I think timing is critical here.
But you already have attorney representation, as you mentioned.
Mark McCloskey?
McCloskey, okay.
And he's doing lawsuits for a lot of other J6ers.
Okay.
I don't think a class action is appropriate.
I don't think so, because everyone's a little bit different.
Right.
But there's a bunch of different lawsuits.
And can you tell us what are the key allegations of the lawsuit, or is it too early for them?
Well, I mean, it's truly a tell, but obviously what was done to us was false imprisonment, malicious prosecution for political purposes, not a legitimate purpose, violation of the First Amendment.
Right.
Solitary confinement.
Civil rights violations galore.
Torture, basically.
Torture.
Right.
And then also, like for my case, I was denied access to a law library for the entire time.
So pre-trial and during my trial, Yale Law graduate, but I could never access and go look up case law.
No access to a law library.
So that was done intentionally to prevent me from being with the help of my own defense.
That's extraordinary.
For a long time now, I've been publicly calling for the Trump administration.
To offer a settlement for all the J6 people like you.
And I have said that that settlement should be at minimum $10 million and maybe a lot more.
Because you can't put a dollar value on what they took from you.
Problem is, I don't want the taxpayers paying for that.
No, but look, they're just printing the money, Stuart.
It's got nothing to do with taxpayers, believe me.
That bugs me in some ways, but I understand what you're saying.
They can print the money for Israel, they can print it for Ukraine.
They can print it for you, man.
I get it.
Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, yes, it's all part of the same fight.
That's how I look at it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, but there's, I mean, you have...
And I would use that money.
My mission is still the same.
It's defend the Constitution.
Right.
And defeat the deep state.
Well, exactly.
You can't be defensive.
You've got to be aggressive.
Like I said, you've got to be like Patton.
You've got to be on the attack.
But you're not talking kinetically, just to be clear.
You're saying through law, through advocacy, media appearances, your book, things like this.
Well, yeah, and through mass disclosure and through lawsuits and also criminal prosecutions.
They should be put on trial.
Absolutely, they should.
The prosecutors who suborn perjury in my case, we got two officers, Dunn and Lazarus, both caught red-handed committing perjury because Steve Baker found the video of Lazarus.
In the Senate tunnel, they were not together.
It testified that day that they were together on day six, but the woman was actually not there.
He was in the tunnels underneath the Senate.
He couldn't have been there.
So they're both caught red-handed in perjury.
So they should be the first ones charged with perjury.
Then they can roll over and make a deal to bring charges against the prosecutors who suborn their perjury.
But we, the people, have got to keep the heat on for Bondi and Patel.
And whoever else might be able to do this.
If you don't punish the prosecutors who suborned perjury and directly conspired to put innocent men in prison for political purposes, if they're not held to account, then in the future, other prosecutors are going to continue.
They're going to do it again.
They're going to do it again.
Absolutely.
Well, they've operated this whole time with zero accountability.
For decades.
For decades.
100%.
And that's the problem.
The bigger picture is, across our political, in our justice system in general, You have a corrupt system where prosecutors routinely coerce people into false confessions and suborn and conspire to commit perjury.
They coach them to lie on the stand.
They know they're lying.
The defense team knows it's a lie.
The prosecutor knows it's a lie.
The defendant knows it's a lie.
And the judge knows it's a lie.
But they all pretend like it's not a lie.
And we have a statement saying, I'm saying this because this is in fact true, and I have not been coerced.
It's all a lie.
It's all coercion.
It's all false testimony.
So the real fight, For this republic has just begun.
We have a beachhead.
It's a continuation, right.
It is like, a good analogy is World War II. We just took Normandy Beach, but now we've got to push.
And you can expect a Battle of the Bulge counteroffensive.
You're going to get that.
Absolutely.
You're going to get it.
But you can't just sit on the beach.
No, no, you can't sit on the beach.
You've got to get off the beach, you've got to press inland.
That's right.
Right.
Except, I mean, today France is not really...
They're not on our side anymore, are they?
But that's the analogy, though.
Yeah, the analogy worked.
We're taking the beachhead against the deep state.
Right.
But today, Europe is kind of...
Well, it's all a fight.
Western Europe is...
It's a worldwide fight.
Yeah.
There are good people in Western Europe.
There are good people in France that are patriots.
Of course there are, yeah.
Absolutely.
Good people in Canada, like you said.
Good people in Britain, yeah.
Right.
So I think when the time comes, I think they'll step up.
They are stepping up right now.
Look at Italy, right?
You've got a populist uprising around the world that are pushing back.
Well, that's why they're banning Georgescu in Romania.
Right.
Won't let him run for office.
Because he's popular, and he's anti-NATO. That's why they stole the election in Brazil.
Yeah, of course they did.
A direct parallel to the United States, actually.
Absolutely.
100%.
And they're going to keep doing that any chance they get.
Sure.
Alright.
So, what do we need to do?
What do our listeners need to do to be part of the...
The activism in a peaceful way that's necessary to save our republic.
Well, one, push for prosecutions of the prosecutors and the lying FBI witnesses.
So I would start with those police officers.
You've got two Capitol officers.
And, you know, my organization was 30% cops.
So I'm pro-police when they do the right thing.
Of course.
When you've got guys lying on a stand and put innocent people in prison, who helped you?
They actually helped Harry Dunn that day.
My guys that went inside, they helped Harry Dunn.
They escalated a confrontation between him and Trump supporters where he was on his M4 getting ready to unload on people.
And they got in between and de-escalated it.
Probably saved a lot of lives.
Wow.
But to cover for that reality, they had to get up on the stand and lie and say, oh, no, I was mistaken.
It was some other group of people dressed like that who helped me.
It wasn't the Oath Keepers.
Because his first 302 to the FBI admitted that our guys helped him.
So they had to cover that up by having them say, I was mistaken.
It was some other group.
So what people can do is push for prosecutions, but I think, even more importantly, push for use of declassification.
It is the most powerful weapon President Trump has.
No one can stop him.
And he controls the executive branch.
All these agencies are in the executive branch under his control.
He can declassify anything that they have in their files.
Well, and plus, he can declassify it and release it before any judges can react.
Well, you do it on the judges.
I want to see all the dirt on every one of these federal judges that's been hidden as classified information that's just only hiding dirt.
That should be disclosed.
When you do that, all the jelly chips will fall.
How can they now step up and say, you get a judge who's maybe a pedophile, for example, or taking money from China or someone else.
He's committed impeachable offenses and criminal offenses.
And you expose that.
Obviously, the next step is a special prosecutor and impeachment.
How do you get Congress, as spineless as Congress has been, as milquetoast and weak as the GOP has been in Congress, how do you get them to ever impeach a federal judge?
You expose the judge first.
Good point.
When he's exposed, and any congressmen who need to be exposed are all exposed and purged out to.
You've got to just throw the whole thing open.
That's what you should be pushing for.
It's like, why are you trying to hit the leaves and the branches?
You've got to go to the root.
And the root is all the dirty secrets.
That's how they control us.
All the five I's around the world control politicians and banking and judicial elites around the world.
Well, I mean, hopefully...
That's what Epstein was doing, right?
Trump realizes all of this.
Because where he is now, if he doesn't follow through, of course, they will continue to try to kill him.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Sure.
And Elon's in the same boat.
If they regain power again, he'll be in prison.
That's right.
That's right.
They have to complete the dismantling of the criminal cartel, of the deep state and the Democrats, and what was the corrupt FBI. They have to do what JFK threatened to do to the CIA. Which was what?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And they have to do what was also threatened against the Federal Reserve, too.
They have to take that down also.
But I think Trump and the Federal Reserve are getting along pretty well right now.
Eventually, that's the other heart of the beast, though.
When you look at the institutions of the deep state, the Federal Reserve is a huge prong of it.
CIA, FBI are another huge prong.
Yeah, I hear you.
I hear you.
And Alan Dolas and his brother, they were, Foster Dolas, they were Wall Street bankers.
Were they really?
Yeah, that's where they came from.
Just so people know, that's where the CIA comes from.
Trump needs the Fed to wage interest rate war with London right now.
But eventually the dollar becomes worthless if they keep printing it, so he's going to have to do some kind of financial reset.
Eventually we have to declare a jubilee.
It's going to have to happen.
Because none of us signed on to any of this crap.
It was all done in our name, but illegitimately through corrupt politicians who were bought and paid for by foreign enemies, etc., and by people who were grifting, mass grifting.
So all of that, why should it be on the taxpayer's dime?
I think you should call it jubilee.
That's not a legitimate fraud, the inducement, whatever contract you want to throw out there, but all of it's fraudulent, so we're going to just declare a jubilee.
We don't owe you, Jack.
We don't owe China, Jack.
We don't owe anybody else, Jack.
And we just start over again and reset our economy.
Yeah, well, that's probably coming.
Or they'll just hyperinflate the currency and pay off all the debts with worthless currency and say we paid it.
And then we reset it.
And then it'll be reset, yeah, one way or another.
I like a jubilee.
I really do.
It's biblical.
Yeah, it is biblical.
Okay, so then what does this mean for all of us here?
What are we about to experience over the next few years?
Because it seems to me like we're living in a war zone.
Well, I think going back to what I preached from day one is that we are missing an institution we're supposed to have is the county militia.
So what we have to do is Americans have got to get strong in their local communities.
And the biggest problem I see with all preppers is they're sitting on a pile of pancake batters and bow fangs, but they're...
Not organized with their community.
Everyone's afraid to even let their neighbors know their preppers.
But that's a recipe for disaster.
All you're doing is storing away food for the next gangbanger that comes along with his buddies and goes to your house.
There's no future in that.
So you need to step up and organize.
We need to purge the GOP of the county level of all of the rhinos that are still left in there, all the deep staters, all the uniparty.
They're still there.
All the never-Trumpers have got to be identified and ruthlessly purged.
Of course, they'll try to kiss butt.
Like a lot of them are doing now because Trump is prevailing, they're going to kiss butt, and they'd be purged out.
So just purge them out, replace them with good people, with patriots, and then at the same time, though, you've got to plug into your local community.
Same thing I've been preaching for years.
Join your local volunteer fire department, become a reserve sheriff deputy, join your local volunteer EMT, whatever it is you can do, your local ham radio club, become part of your volunteer security network in your community, and start a neighborhood watch.
Everyone should have a robust neighborhood watch with teeth.
So you get together with your neighbors, identify all your veteran buddies in the neighborhood, and they take the lead and organize their neighborhood for protection.
And, of course, the sheriffs should have posses, but most of them won't.
All these years that I worked with CSPOA and other efforts to try to get sheriffs off their butts, they'll go talk a good game, but I have yet to see one did anything like what Sheriff Joe Apoyo did.
Apoyo did the right thing.
He had a 3,000-man friggin' posse.
And a lot of them run around in Jeeps with M4s.
They were well-trained guys.
And wasn't he, I mean, he was also the sheriff that tried to expose the fake Obama birth certificate, right?
Until they hammered him.
But it was faked.
His election was stolen, I believe.
Yeah, clearly.
But point being, though, is that every sheriff could do that, but all these years that I've been advocating for that, none of them have done it at all.
Wow.
Across the country, they just don't do it.
Well, since the last time I saw you, which was, of course, many years now, we've started a church.
We have a community church.
And we've been using it as a donation hub.
We've been donating a lot of food and staging a lot of medical supplies and food.
That's great.
That's good.
And getting it out to a lot of, even in this area, a lot of people that help veterans and homeless and addicts and spouses.
And that's the answer.
Yeah, it's like you've got to invest in your local community.
And the church is critical.
Yes.
So just as the Black Road Regiment, that was the beginning of the revolution.
That's where it was sparked, was from the pulpit.
The American Revolution.
True.
So I think the same thing is true today.
You know, liberty is critical here.
Liberty and transparency and truth and freedom and abundance from, you know, freedom from taxation, freedom from financial confiscation, freedom to speak.
That's what ends violence universally.
Right.
And that's why what they did to you is such an affront to humanity because if they can control your speech and lock you in a concrete room, they can control people and they can get away with their crime.
Well, they also use that to suppress other people.
Absolutely.
So we had multiple witnesses that we were going to call as witnesses, and then they were indicted.
And of course, when someone's indicted, now they clam up and plead the fifth, because they've got to worry about their own case now.
That happened over and over again.
Like Kelly Sorrell, for example, our attorney for Oath Keepers.
We were going to call her as a witness, boom, she gets indicted.
So that happened several times.
And so other people started just letting us know they're not going to testify.
They're going to plead the fifth out of the gate.
Letting us know that there's no way they're going to step up and testify.
Because they're worried about being indicted.
Of course.
Then, of course, all my friends here in Texas got visits from the FBI. Of course.
All of them.
Myself included.
Multiple times.
That's intimidation.
They want to destroy your support network.
They don't want anybody supporting you and helping you take care of you while you're in prison.
They don't want anybody standing up and advocating for you.
They want everybody to shut up and sit down.
No, FBI was crawling over us about an interview that we did a few years ago.
And they wanted somebody on our platform to affirm that that interview was on our platform.
And I had my attorney ask them, well, what if we just say no?
They said, well, we'll have federal marshals take you to D.C. They'll kidnap me, take me to D.C., and make me testify.
And I said, well, so what do you guys actually want?
They said, we just want you to...
State that this video is on your platform.
Yeah, they put a clip from it, I think.
Once again, my free speech.
Yeah, exactly.
It's your free speech.
But what are they visiting me for about something that's public already?
It's already on the platform.
Intimidation.
Yes.
And threatening to kidnap me.
Yeah.
It's suppression.
So one of the side benefits for them of all the J6 and everything else was all the lawfare.
Well, it didn't work on me, by the way.
They didn't suppress my speech.
It didn't work on MAGA in general.
Yeah, so it didn't work.
I made the studio better than ever before.
Well, that's the thing.
I really believe that we're much stronger now as a country and as a movement.
The MAGA movement is much stronger.
President Trump is stronger now.
Look at his cabinet compared to what it was before.
Totally.
So way stronger than if he had been declared the winner, which he was, if he had been declared the winner in 2020 and just continued on with another term.
We're much better off now.
And he knows that too.
We are better off.
Because it goes back to my faith.
It goes back to what man means for evil, God will use for good.
True.
Just like with Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers.
Same thing.
So I think everything thrown at President Trump.
Everything I'm throwing at MAGA, everything I'm throwing at all of us J6ers, myself, only made us stronger.
I'm way stronger now than I was.
Right, right.
No weapon against us, right?
There's no friggin' way.
Did you see our new studio building that's under construction?
Nope.
It's right across the way over there.
Go check it out.
Yeah, we'll check it out.
But we're going to have a bigger studio with multiple sets, and we're expanding since Trump won.
Down for a podcast, so we should talk about that.
Love to do that with you, sure.
Actually, what I was wanting to invite you to, I hope you don't mind me just doing this publicly, I wanted to get you and a couple other people that you might recommend to join us for a full afternoon, three of you, in a dramatic set here, and we would film a documentary about J6. Yeah, we can do that.
And we'd edit it up and add B-roll, whatever, and release it as a free documentary.
Okay.
And maybe we could time it with your book.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
Maybe...
Then we can throw it in as a bonus for the book.
Absolutely, yeah.
However we can contribute to that.
Yeah.
But all I need is an afternoon of your time.
Sure, I can do that.
Okay.
I got a short list of guys I can recommend.
That'd be good for them.
That'd be awesome.
Just get everybody here.
Oh, we've also got a whole bunch of our nutrition products for you.
Oh, okay.
To take with you.
Thanks, I can use that.
Yeah, we put together...
You're definitely not in the best environment for health.
No, that's...
Yeah.
Absolutely.
You're probably lacking some nutrition from the prison food.
I went a whole year without sunlight.
Oh, my God.
You need infrared light treatment.
Seriously.
I bet you're getting a lot of sun right now, huh?
I'm doing my best, yeah.
That's very good, very healthy.
Is there anything else you want to add?
Eating carnivore.
I've got about 20 pounds I want to lose.
Oh, yeah.
Well, now you can be outside, you can jog around, whatever you want to do.
Whatever I've got to do, yeah.
Just heal up.
But, you know, I feel pretty good.
I mean, yeah, it was traumatic, and it sucked, but I always kept a frame of reference.
My frame of reference was, this wasn't shit compared to what guys went through in the POWs in our history.
True.
So Vietnam, Korea, World War II. So I would always think about that.
Well, it's extraordinary that you have that spiritual strength to get you through, essentially, torture.
You said a year in isolation?
A year in solitary, right.
Over a year.
That's unbelievable.
Once I was sentenced, I was out briefly in the CTF with the other J6 guys.
It was great.
Then once I was sentenced, they put me and my co-defendant, Kelly Meggs, right into the hole again, solitary, in D.C. jail for six weeks.
No reason given.
I filed a complaint and said, why am I in here?
What's the reason?
And they only wrote back and said, oh, we have a valid reason.
That's all they said.
Like I said, it's like being in the Soviet Union.
No due process.
Do whatever they want to with you.
Did you have, I would imagine, interesting conversations with some of the other people there?
Absolutely, yeah.
We had guys in D.C., they're like, man, you got 18 years?
I know a guy that got murdered got less time than that.
They also thanked us, though.
They said, hey, because all the other guys have been in CTF there for years, I was only there at the end for my sentencing.
But the D.C. guys were very thankful that any of the J6s were there because their conditions improved.
I met one young black reporter from D.C. that she'd been covering D.C. for like 10 years.
She said that they got no traction on improving the conditions in the jail.
That's horrible.
Oh, yeah.
So the Democrats treat their own people awfully.
Of course they do.
Of course they do, right.
And she said the only traction they ever got was after the J6s were there.
Conditions actually improved.
Really?
Yeah.
Because of us making a big deal out of it.
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert.
I love Louie.
I knew Louie.
In fact, we helped protect him here in Texas.
He's a great patriot.
Including his birthday party.
The prison system is a nightmare.
It's not effective at what it claims to do.
It's a mess.
It's a prison industrial complex.
There's a lot of money being made.
Just like every other grift in our federal government, there's a lot of money being made in these prisons.
Commissary.
They get free slave labor, basically.
I was a GED tutor.
I worked in facilities for a while, just helping repair shit.
Then I was also a GED tutor, an ACE instructor, and an adult reading instructor.
Really?
And also a suicide watch companion.
Wait, so you helped other prisoners learn to read?
Yeah, absolutely.
And helped to get their GEDs.
No kidding.
I kept busy.
That's a good service to help people with.
It was good, but it was frustrating because there should be...
There should be trade schools.
They should learn how to weld.
You should be able to get out of there as a certified welder or a pipe fitter or whatever you want to do.
Yeah, totally.
You should be able to have a trade.
They have some drywall classes and some construction classes, but not enough.
Not enough to give these guys a way out.
Because when they get out, they're going to go right back to the street.
Of course.
And the only way they can make money is what they used to do, whatever it was.
Because they have a felony on the record.
Well, they don't know anything else.
A lot of it really is, like one young guy from Jamaica, a gang member, he's like, hey, you know, because they respect military veterans.
As we were talking about military service, he said, what do you think about what's going on in inner cities with all the black-on-black crime?
I said, well, you guys, I said, gangs are a version of a warrior culture, but it's a perversion of the warrior culture, is what I told him.
I said, you guys are not taking care of your communities.
You're not protecting and providing.
You're destroying your own communities.
So that's a perversion of the warrior ethic.
And he's like, okay, I can see that.
Yeah.
Were you ever physically attacked by other prisoners?
Never.
No?
No.
You got along with most of the other...
I got along with everybody.
Yeah.
I had no issues.
I had zero issues.
Because I think the media, of course, and all the slander and smear, they describe you as racist, which is absurd.
By the time I was arrested, some of the first J6ers in D.C. jail had to deal with...
That false accusation, some of the guards were abusive of them.
But after, once people realized it was all nonsense, then we had no problems.
I had no problems.
A lot of the prisoners, actually, they have really good street smarts.
Oh, a lot of them are.
I'm in solitary.
You get out like two hours a day to go use the phone and take a shower.
Myself and one of the guys let up ourselves, run the stairs, exercise.
So I would walk around, talk to the other guys through their window, talk to their door, talk to them a little bit.
And I had black guys from D.C., One was like, hey, you know, we're talking about what's going on in the world.
And he's like, well, the biggest problem is taxation through inflation and the money supply.
Yeah, exactly.
Talk about the Federal Reserve.
Right.
Because he was really well read about it.
He knew what's up.
He knew more about that than most Americans.
Absolutely.
He knew all about the history of the Federal Reserve.
Yeah.
You're sitting in jail, they start reading.
A really good book was being passed around called The Devil's Chest Board by Talbot about the history of the CIA. No kidding.
A really good book.
Yeah, what I like about it, it was written by one of the founders of Politico, but he wrote it in 2015, so before Trump came along, and he wrote it as a leftist attacking the CIA and showing all of his corrupt history.
Before the left loved the CIA. Before they changed colors, right?
Right.
So it's a really good book, really good resource, but it talks about how the CIA, for example, will go and recruit police officers at the NYPD, LAPD, and DC Metro to wear two hats to work for the CIA, too.
And gee, I wonder what happened on J6 with DC Metro.
Yeah, I wonder.
Yeah, that's become quite clear.
But no, a lot of them are very well read, and of course they hate the feds.
Like FTF, you know, F the feds is a very common tattoo.
Oh, FTF. That's what that means.
F fuck the feds.
Okay.
So that's very common.
They hate the feds.
I'll look for that tattoo.
A lot of them are very loyal to our country.
They're patriotic.
They do love our country.
Like I said, they respect military service.
They see my airborne tattoo, and they'd be like, oh yeah, you were in the military.
They respect that.
So I think a lot of them, frankly, they should be put in the Marine Corps or the Army.
Yeah, no kidding.
Or put them on a friggin' aircraft carrier.
Put them in the engine room.
Teach them a trade.
We've got wasted manhood.
They're not given an opportunity to actually go through a rite of passage.
The only rite of passage they have is the gang.
They're not being taught a correct warrior ethic.
Take that and steer it in a positive direction.
Put them in the military.
You know what the gang members are really good at, too, is supply chain logistics.
Because that's the business they're in, is decentralized supply chains.
But, like, I always joke, because I have my avocado smoothies here, you know?
But all the avocados are run by the narco gangs in Mexico, like Michoacan, whatever.
They also run the avocado business, and they get a piece of every avocado.
Which is why they're $4 each, you know?
But I'm thinking, like, if you have a supply chain problem with car parts or whatever, you need to get, like, ex-cartel guys to come in, like, find a way to get us these parts, man.
Oh, yeah, we got it.
We got it, boss.
I'm sure you could.
Like, they know how to, they're resourceful.
Like radar on MASH, you know, you can get anything, right?
Yeah, exactly.
But we have to have a system of actual reform, not just vengeance by the state.
Well, because otherwise, all you're doing, like I said, they get out, they're going to go right back to the same wife, come right back in.
That's what the problem, that's what the prison industrial complex wants.
They don't really want to rehabilitate them.
They want them back in to fill beds again.
That's why the slow walking, first step back credits, they don't want to let them go.
That's a serious problem, too.
Well, there's so much to talk about.
All in favor of federal parole condition is you go in the military, either U.S. Marine Corps or Army, and you go serve your country.
That makes sense to me.
That's what I want to do.
And by the way, look, I mean, I'm in favor of veterans.
Obviously, I support veterans.
I support law enforcement when they are constitutional in their actions, right?
So I'm not anti-cop.
I'm not even technically anti-fed.
Only the corrupt criminal feds, which turned out to be most of them in the last administration.
Well, that's the problem.
A lot of these guys in prison, they're there for ghost guns or ghost drugs.
What that means...
No actual evidence, no physical evidence, just the word of some CHS that they put up on the stand to lie.
CHS, confidential?
A lot of guys are a human source.
Oh, okay, okay.
In other words, somebody else who was threatened with 30 years and coerced into testifying against you, that's what they do across the board.
A lot of guys are in there for made-up crimes.
Seriously.
Like no actual physical evidence.
No physical evidence, just some snitch.
And they couldn't afford a good enough attorney?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter?
It really doesn't matter.
Unless you've got Alan Dershowitz or you're spending like half a million dollars.
Like Rittenhouse's lawyer, for example.
He was a good attorney.
I can't remember his name.
But I talked to him.
He wanted half a million dollars.
Oh, sure.
So unless you have that kind of money, the federal government on the other side, the prosecutors, unlimited budget.
They can assign 20, 30 prosecutors to you if they want to.
And the judges are on their side.
Of course.
So all the coercion that they do, like I said, it's systemic.
All the suborn and conspired perjury is going on across the country.
Unreal.
Yeah, in all these cases.
The whole thing needs to be broken down.
Well, okay, I thank God for your relative freedom that you're experiencing right now.
I feel pretty good.
I'm very glad to be out, very grateful, but I do want my rights restored.
100%.
And all 14 of us need that, too.
I will cover your lawsuit whenever, if that happens, I'll cover your book.
Let's do a documentary with you and a couple other guys that you might recommend.
CondemnedUSA.com is the website that people can support that you're working with, right?
They can become a monthly subscriber, which is what I recommend.
Like with Oathcubers, we had Liberty Tree, $7 or $17 a month.
I think that'd be great for people to go in there and just $5, $10 to CondemnedUSA.
You're not going to miss it per month.
Condemned.
CondemnedUSA.
CondemnedUSA.com.
Got it.
Okay.
And then your Give, Send, Go is Give, Send, Go.com slash what?
Golf Alpha Foxtrot 5 Bravo.
GAF 5B. GAF 5B. Okay.
Why do they do it like that?
Why don't they let you have like a shortcut name?
I don't know.
It should be like Give, Send, Go slash Stuart Rhodes or something.
Maybe they can.
That was set up by one of my cousins.
Oh, okay.
I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to look at this gift horse in the mouth.
No, I'm not complaining.
I'm just saying.
Maybe there could be an easier URL for people.
And it shows 30,000 raised out of 100, but that's all money spent while I was in prison to help pay for commissary and other issues that we're dealing with.
That's all gone now.
So yeah, I could definitely use a shot now.
Yeah, for sure.
Okay, so Stuart, God bless you for your courage and your faith and for working to help restore our constitutional republic.
And you are welcome here anytime.
Appreciate that.
And keep us posted about your projects and we'll help support that.
And to our audience and to anybody from the Trump administration watching, put the pedal to the metal, folks.
Time is running out.
You've got to declassify and you've got to prosecute the traitors that took part in all of this that put people like you, Stuart, behind bars.
Yeah, it has to be accountability.
And they must purge.
The entire federal government needs to be purged of all the deep staters.
Period.
Yep.
Well, some of that has begun, but maybe not enough yet.
You know, we'll see.
We'll see.
All right.
Well, thank you for watching today.
Thank you, Stuart, for being here.
As always, find more interviews at brighteon.com.
And if anybody's watching from the FBI, you don't need to come visit me to prove that this video is posted.
It's already posted.
It's already public.
Just watch it and eat your popcorn or whatever.
It's like, it's already public, you guys.
What's wrong with you?
But anyway, you can find more interviews at brighttown.com and we post on Rumble and other platforms with InfoWars as well.
I was banned off of X, by the way.
Oh, you were banned on X? Yeah, I joined X and signed up for X Premium Plus and then boom, I was suspended.
Recently?
Yeah.
Recently?
Yeah.
I started a new account on X. That's crazy.
Yep.
The day afterwards, boom.
February 2nd.
Well, X still bans links to Brighttown.
Yeah.
We've sued X. I mean, we have a pending lawsuit against X. It was filed a year ago.
And Elon hasn't commented on it at all.
So there's still a problem at X. There's still a problem at X, yeah, that's for sure.
There's a ghost in the machine.
Yeah, yeah.
X marks the spot for censorship.
Yeah, that seems to be the case.
But thank you all for watching today.
God bless you all.
God bless America.
Take care, everybody.
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