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March 7, 2025 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Michael Yon joins Mike Adams to talk about Nested Genocide, Globalism and Historical Analogies

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	All right, welcome folks to today's interview.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	You won't see me today because I'm recording from my home studio with no camera, but you will see our guest, Michael Yang, who joins us, I believe.
	Are you still in Panama, Michael, or where are you now?
	I'm in Panama, not very far from the Einstein head.
	You know, Albert Einstein was here, and they've got a little, well, not a little.
	I got a huge statue of his huge head.
	Okay.
	Does it work by osmosis if you're closer to it?
	I try.
	I put my head next to his, and I'm not sure it worked.
	When I was a kid, I read so much on general relativity and special relativity because I was just so deeply into physics.
	I've said that before.
	But you know, one time I was in Shanghai because I was running around Tibet, and then I went over to China.
	And so I was in Shanghai, and I was looking for a hotel to stay in.
	And so I found one, and I was like, this seems like the right place.
	And it happens to be a place where Albert Einstein had stayed before.
	And so this would be in the late 90s or something.
	No, early 2000s, before I went to the wars.
	And so I rented the room that they said that he stayed in.
	And I stayed there for, I don't know, for quite a while.
	And the room was massive.
	I mean, it was unbelievable.
	It wasn't expensive either because it was old Chinese prices, not new Chinese prices.
	And I was like, I could play tennis in this room.
	Not quite that big, but it was getting that level of big.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	It's like the biggest hotel room.
	I feel like one of those big timers now, but it was old Chinese prices.
	Well, all right.
	That's awesome.
	You always have so much interesting stuff to share with our audience, but let's jump into some practical things here about what's going on with Trump, Zelensky, Ukraine, Russia, Keir Starmer, the UK. So, you know, Zelensky got absolutely mauled by Trump and Vance when he visited the Oval Office.
	And I almost couldn't stop laughing, Michael, because, you know, Zelensky is not used to anybody telling him the truth about what a pathetic creature he is.
	But you and I have predicted for a long time the fall of Western Europe.
	And doesn't this just actually accelerate that fall?
	Or what do you make of all this?
	Yeah, I mean, clearly.
	I mean, like, for instance, a retired colonel just sent me an article about, you know, this could be the final days of NATO, which obviously it could be.
	With good and bad sides to that, I mean, there's definitely good and bad.
	You know, it was also a colonel said to me yesterday, he said, why is Europe?
	I lived in Europe for six years, by the way.
	I lived in Poland for two and Germany for four, right?
	I speak German, right?
	So I've been all over Europe and I go back occasionally, been all over that place.
	And so I'm kind of familiar with it.
	And you know me, I read a lot.
	Don't just go, but I read.
	And I don't just read, but I go.
	And when it comes to NATO, what will be the best route?
	But this colonel said to me yesterday, another colonel, he said, why is it that a country with 500 million people is demanding that a country with 300 million people Defend them against a country with how many does Russia have?
	180 million, 150 million, something like that.
	Yeah, something close to that.
	He's got a good point.
	And let me tell you what.
	When I was in Special Forces, I was in the 10th Special Forces group.
	I was on two different A-teams.
	And we trained.
	I trained with my two different A-teams for three years to parachute into Poland.
	To fight Soviets.
	Three years.
	Hard training.
	It was really serious training.
	To parachute in and then do as much damage as we could, right?
	And it was clear kamikaze missions.
	I trained for that for three years.
	And we never did it.
	But what's interesting is...
	Then I lived in Poland for two years.
	I've been all over the East Block.
	I've never been to Russia, though, actually, just all around the borders.
	But one of the things, you know, it dawned on me at some point is, like, I trained for three years to kill Russians, and I never have really woken up in the morning wishing to kill a Russian.
	Like, I don't have any hatred for Russians.
	I don't...
	Yeah, are we...
	Enemies?
	We've been serious enemies in the past, right?
	Are we enemies now?
	I mean, do I see them as our greatest threat?
	Not by far.
	China, on the other hand, unbelievable threat from China.
	It's over the top.
	I mean, we're thoroughly invaded, right?
	I see our deep state as actually our greatest threat.
	I mean, the worst threat than China.
	Oh, you know.
	You know, by far.
	And you know, the terrorists Osama bin Laden and Muslims in general will often say the near threat is far more dangerous than the far threat.
	That's why they kill the people that are closest to him first that they see as enemies, right?
	The near threat.
	I mean, that's a clear...
	Yeah, I mean, the deep state is like, whatever it is, whatever jungle that is, we know it exists.
	It's kind of hard to define it, but it's clearly there.
	Like, for instance, I just sent a message after Trump's speech.
	I watched it, and I sent messages, and this morning as well, to people that are close to Trump.
	As much as I always hit Trump hard, I still cooperate constantly, daily, with people close to him.
	And I said, if you're serious about taking the canal back and cutting off the flows of the migration through the Darien Gap, Have to fire everybody in this embassy down the road from me.
	U.S. Embassy in Panama needs to be fired.
	Send the Marines down to guard it and then send a new staff, much smaller staff.
	Do we even need an ambassador as a question here?
	Or do we just need somebody who leads the mission for the president in Panama?
	Now, I've been saying for years we need to...
	Get the China out of this whole region, Monroe Doctrine, which is not being used.
	But I do see, but I'm not fooled by what I just saw with BlackRock.
	Now, during President Trump's speech, he was saying that the United States, China is selling it to a big American company.
	That's BlackRock.
	Okay.
	So BlackRock is one of the only U.S. Asset managers who is allowed to do business, who's authorized to do business in China.
	I mean, what did we just do?
	Did we just hand it from this to this?
	And by the way, we didn't hand over the canal.
	It's the ports on either side.
	Hutchison, Wempoa.
	When I was in Hong Kong covering the fighting there, Hutchison, Wempoa, Hong Kong.
	Hutchison, Wempoa here and Hong Kong here.
	At Panama, I'm on the Pacific side and on the...
	Atlantic side and in Netherlands.
	And as you know, sometimes I leave here and go to Netherlands.
	Why?
	Because Netherlands also has the biggest harbor in Europe, Rotterdam, and just south of that is Antwerp, the second biggest harbor.
	These are all related.
	All these things are related to each other.
	It's not the only reason I go to Netherlands.
	There's other reasons they're being invaded.
	And knocking out their farmers and food supply, which you've talked about for probably a thousand hours on your show.
	I mean, you've talked about this.
	I mean, you know this subject inside and out.
	And so Panama, as you and I have talked many times, this is easily one of the most important places on Earth, partly because of the canal, but also other things like this place is famous.
	Old Spanish poems about how pure the gold is here.
	But also the copper mine, which is closed now temporarily from First Quantum, a Canadian company, which is largely owned by Chinese companies and mysterious other companies, which is who?
	Probably BlackRock.
	I don't know.
	Probably, but I don't know.
	Or affiliates.
	But that copper mine, nominally owned by the Canadian Company, First Quantum, could bring in more money into this country than the canal.
	So the canal is the main source of income for Panama, Panama Canal, right?
	But the mine itself can bring in even more.
	Now, this country is becoming increasingly unstable.
	There could be a...
	It doesn't look like you're on the streets.
	It doesn't feel unstable, actually, unless you know what you're looking for, and then you can see it.
	For instance, there's a court ruling coming up about Social Security.
	They just don't have the funds due to corruption, well, just due to corruption, basically, because they make enough money from the canal and other means where they should be a very wealthy country.
	But they're not, because there are wealthy people, just like in the United States, but the country, and like Japan.
	Japan is basically a super rich country filled with poor people living in small boxes, right?
	And likewise, increasingly so in the United States and here as well.
	It should be wealthy, but it's not.
	And so there's been some huge protests, and I think more are coming depending on this court ruling about Social Security.
	Will the people get the payments that they expect?
	This is coming in America, too.
	And will they have to work longer?
	Will they have to work?
	Will they increase the retirement age?
	So, you know, I went to a protest a couple of weeks ago led by Suntrax, which is a communist labor union here.
	Most of the Panamanians hate Suntrax.
	They're very violent.
	And in fact, I predicted 90% chance for violence.
	And when I predict 90% chance of violence...
	I mean, I'm really accurate on those things.
	I've been in so many protests where I predicted this and ended up right.
	And this one, I was like, well, it's going to go violent because we were in it, right?
	Masako, Kanaha, and I were in it.
	But that's not what happened.
	The energy was increasing.
	I'm like, okay, here we go.
	And then a lightning storm came.
	Heavy rain, heavy lightning.
	And this is dry season.
	I was like, can you?
	This is like...
	God said, not today.
	It was kind of bizarre because this is dry season.
	Actually, there's rain clouds out the window right now.
	There's dark clouds, and this is dry season.
	There's been a lot of rain here this year that normally doesn't happen this time of year.
	Okay.
	That's a really interesting update there.
	It shows you that Panama, like...
	Well, really like the UK and like the US and Canada, you know, these Western countries are running out of money to meet their basic social services obligations.
	Entitlement payouts, for example.
	I don't know how the UK, for example, is going to stay solvent.
	I mean, the Bank of England is on its last legs.
	They're losing all their gold.
	And now they're trying to commit, I suppose, billions of dollars to fighting Russia.
	And they're going to send soldiers and planes.
	To join, I guess, all the other destroyed equipment and dead soldiers on the eastern edge of Ukraine.
	I mean, it really looks to me like a suicide pact among the Western leaders.
	What do you say?
	Clearly.
	Either it's a suicide pact or they're just flaming idiots committing...
	I mean, they're doing something that's going to...
	Ending the destruction of their countries one way or the other.
	You know, one of the reasons I like all these old books, which I'm constantly, I just got these in Panama City, is like the old people.
	I mean, I like to listen to what they say.
	And when I find books where I'm like, okay, this is accurate, like G. Edward Griffin, who you interview sometimes.
	When you read and you look at the things that you wrote years ago, look how amazingly accurate that man is.
	Right?
	I mean, he like had a time machine.
	And so we're living in his future now.
	And he was right.
	So I pay attention to what he says now, because if he continues this trend.
	Anyway, United Kingdom.
	I was with their army and the Marines in...
	Afghanistan and Iraq.
	I did a lot of combat with them.
	I was in Sangin, Afghanistan, which was the most dangerous district in all of Afghanistan.
	Out of 400 districts, 398 or something.
	Sangin was the most dangerous, right?
	Not up there where those documentaries were made with all the shootouts and stuff.
	I was in all those, but in a different place.
	Sangin.
	And no journalist wanted to go out there because it was like straight up.
	You know, that's where I named the cop petrols effect, actually, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, the blades shining on the helicopters.
	And so I was out there with them.
	I did a lot of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq.
	They invited me over with them in Afghanistan after we did a bunch in Iraq.
	And I realized, I was like, wow, they can't defend the United Kingdom.
	They're very professional.
	They're very brave.
	They're highly trained, and they don't have the numbers, and they don't have the gear.
	They just don't have it.
	American vehicles, like the Strikers that are being put on the southern border in Texas now, I did two years of combat in Strikers, right?
	I did a lot of missions.
	I soon hit my car bombs, huge amounts of firefights, the whole works.
	Those are great vehicles.
	I only ever saw one Strikers break down.
	It's an eight-wheel vehicle, and it was just because a wheel fell off.
	A wheel fell off, and we were doing some stuff.
	We just got out.
	Picked a giant tire up.
	I helped them and put it on the top of the striker and drove off with the other seven tires.
	That's it.
	It was very rare for American vehicles to break down.
	Very rare.
	You know, the Humvees sometimes, their suspension would break in the early parts, and you might get flat tires, and you do have to fix them, but they don't usually break down.
	It's pretty uncommon.
	You could go on a mission with Americans and have 20 vehicles for three or four days, and not a single one breaks down.
	You go out with British, And it's like a one-day mission.
	And I'm like, okay, which is the vehicle that's going to break down while we're in the middle of a firefight?
	I mean, and that crap was happening a lot.
	I mean, their vehicles, I'm just like, this is unbelievable.
	You don't have, like, I went to one of their bases down in Basra.
	And Basra is southern Iraq down near the Persian Gulf or the Gulf of Arabia, Arabian Gulf, next to the border of Iran, close to that, right?
	And we just kept getting so much IDF, which is indirect fire.
	Not Israeli Defense Forces, but indirect fire, you know, rockets and mortars.
	I mean a lot.
	So we were getting hit like, you know, five, six, ten times a day, casualties.
	And, you know, so we had these habit trails of these HESCOs that you would have to go through, like mouse habit trails, so you didn't get blown up.
	And so when we're down there, at one point I said, don't you have a Q38 or Q39, you know, a counter battery radar?
	These radars that we have.
	When somebody shoots a mortar at you, rockets can be harder if they're short-range rockets because they can fly literally under the radar.
	But with the mortars or medium-range rockets, you'll see the point of origin, POI they call it.
	So you'll know the point of origin before the round even hits you, right?
	And so you'll, like, I've sat with the radar guys at nighttime up in Iraq and Bakuba, and we were literally watching attacks coming at us.
	I'm like, wow, there they go.
	And I'm like, what's this one?
	And they're like, oh, that's a whatever.
	And we can see bullets, right?
	If there's a firefight going on and some bullets are flying up into the sky, we would see those bullets on the radar, right?
	It's pretty wild.
	And so I'm down with the British and we're getting all this IDF, indirect fire, all the time.
	It's really, you know, very effective for the enemy because it slows us down.
	And I said, don't you have a counter battery radar?
	And they're like, no.
	And I'm like, this is crazy.
	If they fired this much at us.
	When I'm with American Forces, we'd kill their ass in one day, man.
	You sit there and you want to fire six or ten rounds at us, we'll get you.
	You can fire two or three rounds.
	You keep dropping in the tube, you're dropping 15, 20 rounds, you're a dead man, right?
	And we'll hit you with an F-16 or a 155 or something.
	We're going to get you.
	And because I've literally been sitting there watching...
	Watching the rounds come in and they're like, boom, sending up the coordinates, get them, right?
	F-16.
	And so finally some Americans showed up and I said, you didn't happen to bring a radar with you, did you?
	And they're like, yeah, we did, as a matter of fact.
	And they're like, oh, but don't publish this.
	So I didn't, of course, because, you know, then what they did was they set up the radar and they got some F-16s and they killed them, right?
	It was easy.
	You just put the F-16s on station.
	You just wait until they shoot because they shoot every day.
	Bam, you're dead, right?
	But the British don't even have that stuff.
	It's unbelievable.
	And, you know, they don't have enough helicopters.
	They didn't have enough.
	Again, highly trained, serious men, serious women.
	They just don't have the gear.
	And they're just broke.
	I mean, straight up, their military is broke.
	I went out on a couple of their ships.
	I went out with the U.S. Navy on some helicopters and stuff, and we got in these little boats, and we went out to see the British in the Persian Gulf.
	Anyway, it was on these two oil platforms called ABOT and CHAOT, right?
	So I was out with the British, got on their ships.
	I'm like, wow, their ships are nothing like American ships.
	You know, American ships are like tidy and squared away, and the British were too.
	They were tidy and squared away, but you could just tell there was a huge difference in...
	Even without being a naval guy, I'm like, man, this is like, we get on our ships, I know we can do some damage with this ship.
	And I know you can with the British too, but they're just, they're in a different class.
	And it's because they've just died off.
	I mean, they're just not the British that they used to be, unfortunately.
	So, well then, and I agree with what you're saying, but what does this mean about the credibility of, The U.K. and other countries saying that they're going to pick up where the U.S. has left off.
	Because, you know, look, breaking news is that the U.S. also just announced they've stopped sharing a lot of intelligence with Ukraine.
	And I believe that's, you know, satellite data targeting with Ukraine.
	Oh, with Ukraine.
	Okay.
	Right.
	So the U.S. has cut off funding for Ukraine, but then cut off military intelligence.
	Not all of it, but the important parts.
	Targeting data, satellite imagery.
	Basically, Ukraine is now broken blind.
	And the UK thinks they can pick all that up?
	I mean, they're dreaming.
	And, you know, go back to what you and me said.
	Since before the first shot was fired, don't do it, Rambo.
	This is an error, right?
	And now we're in our futures.
	And, you know, we were saying that very clearly back then.
	Over and over and over, this is going to go badly for Ukraine.
	And what do wars do?
	Wars grow.
	Wars grow unexpectedly.
	It's a complex system.
	Wars have a life of their own.
	And wars last longer than people expect.
	And that's what Israel is doing, too.
	These three things wars always do.
	If you predict these three things, I've said them over and over again.
	If you just predict, you don't have to know anything else about the war.
	Just predict and watch how amazingly...
	You look like Nostradamus.
	Wars, just say, this war is going to grow.
	This war is going to grow.
	Yeah, and people...
	Unpredictably, with unpredictable consequences.
	Unpredictable consequences, and it's going to last longer than you expect, son.
	The Israelis will whip up on Gaza, and they'll surrender.
	And I'm like, okay, now Egypt is getting ready to go to war, right?
	Because wars grow.
	They grow.
	Wars grow like fires, and they grow in complex ways that nobody can predict.
	Not even the most experienced war person in the world can predict.
	And they go longer than you expect.
	This war is growing with Israel, growing with Ukraine, and it could engulf Europe.
	And meanwhile, Europe is...
	You know, I talked with a German guy.
	I don't know, it's probably six or seven, eight years ago now, and he was befuddled and betruxed, or what is one of those words, that the United States, that Trump was demanding that Europe pony up to their NATO obligations.
	He was like, and then it dawned on him, he's like, I'm talking to an American here, you know, the German guy.
	He's like, you know, and he's telling us that we have to, you know, put in, you know, our fair share.
	He was literally using, like, words that clear.
	You know, it was like, why should we have to do that?
	Why should we have to defend ourselves?
	Why should we ever defend anybody that won't defend themselves?
	Never defend somebody who won't defend themselves, right?
	I mean, at least don't put your life on the line.
	Don't put your life on the line to defend somebody who won't defend themselves.
	And that's what you're doing by going and defending countries who won't defend themselves.
	You literally are then putting us in a position of potentially nuclear combat, which is obviously not going to go well.
	Yeah, well, exactly.
	And I think Russia is laughing at this at the moment.
	Russia could destroy London easily, even with non-nuclear weapons.
	Russia could destroy most military assets in the UK or other countries.
	But Russia, I would imagine, doesn't want to do that because guess what?
	Trade's about to be restored with the United States.
	And I predicted this, Michael.
	I said, look, here's what's going to happen.
	Trump is going to drop the sanctions against Russia, and Trump is going to lean on Europe to unfreeze the $300 billion that has been frozen of Russian money.
	And then Trump, the U.S. and Russia are going to engage in a lot of trade, and the whole idea is to pull Russia away from China and then isolate China economically.
	It's clear to me that's the strategy.
	Isolate China, tariff China, block exports of microchip lithography equipment to China, block technology and try to slow China down in the arms race and the AI race.
	That's clear to me.
	Where's Mackinder now?
	The world island theory.
	Britain has worked for a long time to keep Germany separated from Russia.
	You see, and we have too.
	We look at Nord Stream, right?
	That is separating Germany from Russia.
	You know, if Germany and Russia combine, that's a powerful force.
	And if you look at what Mackinder had written so long ago, and many people have studied, you know, if Germany and Russia come together, that's just irresistible.
	That's a block that the United Kingdom...
	They'll be overrun, right?
	But it's interesting because now it's not Germany and Russia.
	It's Germany against Russia, but it's the United States and Russia.
	That's like ultra-McKender stuff.
	I mean, I wonder if McKender ever envisioned that Russia and United States would combine like so many people were concerned that Germany and Russia would combine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't know.
	But it just seems to me that all these Western European countries are living in a delusional fairytale land where they practically have no military assets remaining and they have no money remaining and they think they're going to defeat Russia.
	Some of them are still talking about defeating Russia.
	And then there was this lunatic, I think he was from Austria or Germany, forgot his name, Gunther something, but he said, I think he's one of the lawmakers there, he said that NATO countries should confiscate all U.S. military assets from all the U.S. military bases across NATO countries.
	And I'm like, you and what army?
	I saw that.
	I mean, that would be a terrific error.
	Like, incredibly terrific error.
	And very sad, actually.
	As much as, I mean, I might say a few bad things now and then about You know, Germany and Europe in general, but I don't see them as my enemy at all.
	I never meet Europeans and think, hey, I should go to war with them.
	I don't want that.
	But a rash of insanity swept across Canada and the United States and Europe, Australia and Japan, by the way, and like doing things that are just completely self-destructive.
	Utterly self-destructive.
	Like, if you were to design stupidity and make stupidity into a machine, it's pretty well humming along right now.
	Like, you know, the idea that anybody should put their military assets into Ukraine and start fighting Russia, especially when your military can't even defend the United Kingdom.
	Well, exactly.
	Exactly.
	So, my question to you, Michael, Because you're such an astute observer, you have a lot of experience internationally, including in Europe.
	What's the conclusion of this?
	Where is this going this calendar year with Ukraine and Russia and Europe?
	And that's a good question because, you know, this is a complex system of complex systems.
	And, you know, again, Europe refuses to even guard their own borders, right?
	I've been...
	Watching their borders.
	I've been all over Europe looking at this.
	Masako, Ganaha and I went to, I don't know, maybe a dozen European countries looking at this, maybe more.
	And they're just overrun.
	Ireland's gone.
	United Kingdom essentially is gone at this point.
	Well, it's a war.
	And if it follows the general pattern, and it will, it'll grow.
	And it'll grow unexpectedly.
	And it'll last longer than anybody.
	Most people imagine anyway.
	And often in wars, the people that end up winning, well, it'll be the people that win or the people whose names you don't even know, generally speaking.
	But at the end of the day, it won't go well.
	It won't go well for Europe.
	It won't go well for anybody.
	It's just rash insanity to even be seriously thinking about this.
	Well, okay.
	So then, what is that?
	I mean, we have to project where this goes then.
	I mean, I'll go first, okay?
	I'll stick my neck out of there.
	I say eventually there are elections in Ukraine.
	Zelensky's out.
	There's a new leader elected.
	This is going to take months, obviously.
	Then the new leader signs essentially a surrender to Russia, and Ukraine loses.
	All the property, all the land that Russia currently holds.
	And then Western Europe, you know, loses their minds.
	And sometime in this whole process, London sets off a bunch of false flag attacks to blame Russia to try to drag the U.S. into the war.
	Because it's World War II over again.
	Except in this case, Russia, you know, I mean, Russia was the ally of the British in World War II, and now they're the enemies.
	How many false flags is London willing to carry out here?
	I think as many as it takes.
	That's my take.
	Yeah, and now keep in mind, and this is very important, Europe in general has been overrun with tens of millions of people that are predatory towards Europe and Europeans, right?
	So they fully have cancer.
	They have demographic cancer.
	If you go to London now, which, you know...
	I've done recently.
	Well, it's been a couple of years.
	It seems recent with all the things, all the places that we go.
	Masako Ganaha and I went inside that giant mosque there.
	And I mean, it's like whole sections of London, London stand, right?
	So while you're running off with your army to get it destroyed with the Russians, you will be destroyed.
	Will be.
	They're making babies.
	They're hostile towards the British and they'll kill you.
	Straight up.
	And all that LGBT crap, they're going to chop your heads off and they're going to kick them down the road because that's how this stuff goes.
	I've been in those countries.
	I've been in those wars.
	They will not play around.
	You fly that rainbow flag out, they'll bust your door down and throw you out the window.
	It is no joke.
	This is very serious.
	These are very serious people that we're dealing with.
	A lot of the people that want these, they seem to think they want these things.
	They don't leave their own countries.
	They don't leave their own neighborhoods.
	They don't go into these books.
	They don't know what they're talking about, and they are going to die.
	And I mean straight up, not just change your form of government, but genocide, right?
	Ireland right now is completely overrun.
	Gracias.
	Ireland right now is completely overrun, as one example.
	I get daily reports from Ireland, and...
	Well, look at Luxembourg.
	Go over to Luxembourg, which borders Netherlands and Germany.
	I went there a couple of years ago, spent a couple of weeks.
	It's about 50%, 5-0% aliens now, filled with people from the Middle East and Africa.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's over the top.
	By the way, speaking of that, the weapons of mass migration, which is what this book is called.
	You know, when President Trump was speaking last night, he talked about Lakin Riley.
	She was murdered by a Venezuelan who, well, he killed her.
	And his name was Jose Ibarra.
	He didn't mention that, but that was his name, right?
	So I then checked immediately to see if he had gone through the Darien Gap.
	He went through the Darien Gap, I think, on March 15, 2023. Somebody by his name went through the Darien Gap on March 15. Another guy who we think is MSS, Ministry of State Security, which is Chinese CIA, he may have tuberculosis.
	He made it to New York and he actually sued Twitter.
	You can find the guy that I'm talking about online because it was semi in the news.
	And his passport was published.
	The number for his passport was published because, well, he sued Twitter for somebody having published that, actually.
	And this guy, we believe he's Ministry of State Security.
	He went through Darien Gap on, I think it was 17 April of 2024. Anyway, he went through.
	I checked the records immediately.
	Boom.
	I see this all the time.
	I see people in the news, and I check.
	Because we know, we have the names of over a million people who came through, right?
	We know a lot about birthdays and the whole works.
	So I see a lot of these crimes, people getting raped and killed, names are on the news.
	There it is.
	That looks like the guy, right?
	Now, Jose Ibarra, the one that I found, I don't know if it's the one who killed Lakin Riley, but it almost certainly is.
	That's the route, the Tren de Aragua, which he was said to be a member of that gang.
	Their route is through the Darien, right?
	And his age and the timing matches up.
	But if I knew his passport number or his birthday, I could tell you with much higher level of confidence.
	But a lot of these guys, like Masako Ganaha, three days ago at this time, I took her to the airport here in Panama and she flew on Turkish air.
	And she flew with 26 Chinese who were being deported.
	Masako identified herself as a Japanese journalist and to the immigration, Panamanian immigration that was there.
	And she talked with them.
	And then she talked with Chinese, 26, that were boarding her flight to Istanbul.
	And I put this on Substack because Masako rode it up while she was in the air.
	So she got on the same flight with 26 Chinese.
	Who are being deported.
	And they were heading to Istanbul.
	So she talked with them during the flight and was sending me messages and videos and stuff because they had Wi-Fi.
	And then landed in Istanbul, Turkey, and continued to talk with them.
	And then now she just got in Japan early this morning.
	But the bottom line is her narrative, Masako's narrative, is on my substack.
	I put it on substack, and you can see the things that she's talking about.
	It's important to read it, right?
	So we know a great deal about these people, more than most people can imagine, and especially between either us and our extended network.
	And we distribute our information, by the way, our various networks do, so that if one of us gets taken out or whatever, it doesn't matter.
	The information is distributed around our network.
	And so the bottom line is we continue to be invaded, by the way.
	The invasion continues.
	It's just dramatically reduced.
	Our own government says more than 8,000 were encountered on the border just in February.
	Now, it's gone from Category 5 hurricane to Category 1 hurricane.
	And so it looks like, hey, it's stopped.
	It has not stopped.
	It's still flowing, and the architecture is still fully in place.
	The United Nations camps down in the Darien Gap, they're all open.
	We were just in them, right?
	They're fully operational, fully manned, and people are still flowing our direction.
	It's down at least 95%.
	But I've seen this happen before, and then, boom, the numbers increase later.
	As long as...
	And one thing I was looking for...
	Well, wait a second.
	Since USAID money has largely been shut off...
	Some of that money must be flowing from the UN, I would imagine.
	And is this why Trump and Vance and others are talking about leaving the UN also, to cut off the funding to the UN, which is funding the invasion?
	Did he talk about that last night?
	Because I was watching closely for that, and I didn't see it.
	Not in the speech, he didn't.
	But before that, a lot of chatter in the Trump administration about leaving the UN. Yeah, that was one of the specific things I was watching for.
	And he didn't mention it.
	And now, as long as the UN is funded and it's not dismantled, then these flows will continue.
	That's like the plumbing is there.
	The pipelines are all there.
	Now, the Chinese don't need the United Nations.
	They use it at...
	Like in the Darien Gap portion.
	But they go many other ways to get in.
	They come through the Bahamas.
	They come through Canada.
	They come with student visas.
	They go to Mexico on vacations at Cancun and all that, Mexico City.
	And then they come up from there.
	The Chinese, they come in on planes, trains, and automobiles, right?
	But the people who really need it are like Venezuelans.
	You know, like the guy that murdered and raped Lake and Riley.
	I mean...
	He almost certainly, if somebody can provide his passport number, I can confirm.
	But it's almost certainly the same guy who came through.
	The timing and the age matches up.
	And maybe he's not.
	But if not, with the passport number, if he came in.
	Anyway, the bottom line is, it's probably him.
	Everybody I've checked so far has actually checked out.
	When I suspect, like all the Tren de Aragua people, I'm guessing they all or almost all came through the Darien Gap.
	We see so many.
	And they come in like gangs.
	They don't cross the Darien Gap alone.
	And by the way, a lot of the rapes and murders that happen in the Darien Gap occur from the gangsters like Tren de Aragua who are crossing through the Darien Gap.
	And while they're crossing through the Darien Gap, they just rape the women.
	And rape and murder other migrantes.
	They're famous for it.
	So they're literally raping and murdering their way all the way on up, and now they're spread out across the United States like the disease that they are.
	You know, a lot of them have tattoos on their faces.
	They're not hard to figure out.
	Right.
	Right, exactly.
	Okay, so this means, well, related to this, do you think that Pam Bondi will prosecute?
	I don't know if you saw this news just breaking that Representative Paulina Luna is referring mayors of, I think, eight sanctuary cities, referring them to the DOJ for prosecution for violating whatever code and law that she cited about protecting illegals.
	Do you think they'll be prosecuted?
	And do you think Mallorcas may be in line for possible prosecution?
	I don't know what will happen, but I know what should happen.
	He should be in prison.
	He should be in prison for a long list of crimes, right?
	As should Amy Pope at the IOM in New York.
	She's the International Organization for Migration.
	Look on her Twitter.
	She's United Nations.
	I mean, we should be kicking down their doors, right?
	A lot of these people.
	Aponte, the former ambassador here to Panama, should be arrested.
	She was down in the camps.
	I was physically present when she was there with Mayorkas, right?
	The United States Embassy here in Panama City, every single one of them should be fired, right?
	Because they were openly involved in the invasions.
	Well, right.
	But I'm just saying that I think that's unlikely to happen, though.
	And I'm wondering sort of how far you think the Trump administration is going to go, because they've done a lot already, but are they willing to criminally prosecute Biden administration officials who violated the law?
	I don't think Trump is as tough as people make him out to be at all.
	He's a businessman.
	He's just doing business stuff.
	I mean, tough would be, Mayorkas would be flex cuffs sitting on the curb right now.
	And tough would be, United Nations doors would be getting kicked down right now across the United States.
	They would be defunded already.
	They would be defunded already.
	We would not be talking about it.
	It would be past tense, right?
	They would be rounding up.
	We would have ships coming up the Mississippi River and in Charleston and Miami and Tampa and New York and San Francisco and Los Angeles.
	We would have ships loading.
	Migrantes on those ships, not on airplanes, we'd be loading them on ships and shipping them out of the United States.
	We'd be shipping them to the nearest shores, which will take them.
	If nothing else, we can take them to Venezuela.
	If Venezuela, I'll tell you what, it makes me want to run for president.
	It doesn't ever seriously cross my mind, but everybody's imagined, what would I do if I were president?
	What would I do?
	Venezuela.
	Venezuela.
	You wanna act like you're not gonna take your Venezuelans back.
	Okay, here's your choices right now.
	We're gonna send them back.
	It's either gonna be peaceful or unpeaceful.
	You will choose.
	If you do not take these people back, we will bomb and clear a big part of Venezuela and we will put them back and we will sail away and you can have them and you can have that part of Venezuela back.
	We will take one of your islands from you.
	And we will drop them off.
	And if you fight back, we'll hit your capital.
	It'll be like that.
	That simple.
	We're going to start bringing them down there next Monday.
	And if you get in the way, we're going to blow you out of the water, right?
	Take them back.
	You released them and are using them as a weapon of war, as a weapon of mass migration.
	They are openly using them as a weapon of mass migration, right?
	That's what they're doing.
	We need to openly use them as that weapon back.
	And not only that, take all the Angolans and all the other Africans and all the Bangladeshis.
	Nothing against Bangladeshis.
	I've been to Bangladesh.
	Thank you for your hospitality.
	But you need to go back to Bangladesh and apply for a visa.
	And again, I've traveled to Bangladesh and Nepal and all these places.
	And I felt very welcome.
	I spent a year in Nepal.
	But the Nepalese need to go back to Nepal and apply for visas.
	And they keep throwing this thing out there that there's the wars going on in Nepal, which is utter nonsense.
	I've been all over that country.
	I spent a year in Nepal.
	It's not true.
	I've been to a lot of the places these people come from, right?
	And they need to go back.
	We can drop them off at Venezuela, and Venezuela can take care of it.
	And the United Nations, if they're still alive, Could send them food and close the Darien Gap and they don't come back.
	All the countries down there can take care of them and ship them back in any way they want.
	If they want help with ships, we can help them pay for them.
	They man the ships, take them back to Africa or whatever.
	Take them back to Asia.
	It can be done.
	It's a matter of testosterone.
	It's a matter of actually a willingness and an eye of the tiger to protect your own country and stop playing like children.
	They play like drugged up little children, right?
	Like, oh, we can't do anything.
	I was talking with this intelligence guy about a month ago, having lunch together.
	And he's saying, oh, we can't close the Daring Gap.
	I've been down there for years and all this nonsense.
	I'm like, listen, if you can't close the Daring Gap, you should be fired.
	Fired.
	A captain could close the Daring Gap.
	It's the easiest place in the world.
	They come up one road.
	Highway 1, it's got two lanes, right?
	It goes like 200 kilometers, right?
	You can't close that road?
	Right.
	You can't close the Darien Gap?
	The Darien Gap, if I were to design an obstacle, it would be the Darien Gap.
	I'd be like, the Darien Gap, that's what I want to help me stop these people.
	I would make Darien Gap, right?
	And it's there.
	It's natural.
	God gave it to us.
	And yet, you bring them in.
	And pretend like you can't stop them.
	But anybody who says we can't stop them is part of the weaponized.
	They are part of the architecture.
	They are part of this architecture.
	That's the game they play.
	That's the game Abbott played.
	Governor Abbott of Texas constantly like, oh, we're going to show those people in New York.
	We're going to load them on buses and send them to Massachusetts and New York and all these places.
	All he's doing is clearing the decks.
	I was there across the entire Texas border, spent months down there, went across all the way to San Diego, right?
	And I saw Texas law enforcement and Texas Guard and Border Patrol load up tens of thousands of people, tens of thousands, I saw with my own eyes and video and whatnot, loading up tens of thousands and invading the United States with them.
	Our government did it.
	Right?
	It's within our government's power to start rounding them up.
	And the people that are today and day at Agua, you're going to El Salvador prison and start doing it.
	Let me tell you what the Taliban, a lot of the best war tricks I've learned from our enemies.
	You know what Taliban would do?
	When Taliban captures people, they take your phone, right?
	They take your phone and they do bad things to the people.
	I'm not suggesting we do that.
	Typically what they do is they shave their head, they tie them to a tree, and they rape the men, right?
	That's what they do, right?
	I'm not saying we should do that.
	Obviously not.
	But they would take their phone and they would make video with the phone of the guy they captured, and then they would send that to all the contact lists, right?
	They would send it to all his family and friends, and the Afghans were always sharing those videos, right?
	And it was very frightening for them.
	It was terrorism.
	I'm not saying we should do terrorism.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	But what I am saying is we should take their phones and we should send, we should like, hey, your guy's captured.
	He's going to prison in El Salvador.
	You know, because we got all the contacts, right?
	And we just build an entire contact database of everybody and every phone of everybody who's been captured.
	And about once a month, they get updates.
	Yep, still in prison because that will spread.
	That's information war.
	You're not doing anything wrong.
	You're not doing anything illegal.
	You're just spreading the word.
	Don't come here because you can end up in a prison in El Salvador or some other country or on some island.
	You're not going to make it to the United States.
	You're not going to rape women in the jungle anymore.
	You're not going to rape and rob Americans.
	You're not going to be able to murder beautiful young women like Lake and Riley.
	You're not going to be able to do this because we will hunt you down.
	They're only strong when you let them be strong.
	They're not really strong when you come at them with hardcore men.
	If you go at them with hardcore, organized, no kidding, no kidding men, they can't stand up to that.
	You can rip their hearts out, right?
	But we don't because we have weak leadership.
	Strong leadership would put an end to this.
	Lickety split.
	You would have millions of people self-deporting.
	Wow, that's...
	That's really interesting to hear that there's so much more that Trump could be doing that he's not doing.
	And Tom Holman has a reputation of being very tough.
	But I've been looking at the numbers, Michael, and it's nowhere near the numbers that came in.
	I mean, like, the daily number of people being deported is a tiny fraction of the daily numbers that came in.
	They're making babies faster than we deport.
	It seems like this is...
	So what has to happen for us to actually reclaim American security and get the illegals out?
	I'm seeing if I got any messages on it from anybody like Homan now while we've been talking.
	No, I have not.
	That's a lot of messages.
	Anyway, but what do we have to do?
	I mean, Trump has to be the Trump people think he is, right?
	Right?
	That's it.
	That's all you got to do is actually be the Trump that, I mean, if you mess with him, if you get between him and his ego or him and his money, he'll kill you, right?
	Jab.
	Take the death jab.
	We're talking about the people who push the death jab, and people keep saying, oh, just get over that.
	You're insane.
	Straight up.
	That's actual genocide that is still ongoing.
	You know, these measles outbreaks now in Texas, apparently, and now they're starting to talk, are they vaccinated or not?
	You know what I mean?
	Listen, Trump and that band still are behind Big Pharma.
	There is just no way around that fact.
	You should not explain your way around a minefield as if it's not there.
	It is there.
	Those mines are there, and they are still active.
	In fact, people are dying every day from these jabs that have already been done.
	And I don't see Trump doing what he said he's going to do.
	It's just not happening.
	It's not happening.
	In the speech, he did mention autism in his speech, and he said that RFK Jr. is going to try to find out the causes of autism.
	But of course, they know that autism is caused by vaccines.
	They know that.
	But doesn't that indicate that they're moving in that direction?
	I'm not seeing it.
	That's like trivial stuff.
	That's just noise.
	Listen, you published yesterday on Twitter, the RFK, you published something like he should spend more time looking at the pharma than...
	Than looking at, you know, anti-Semitic talk or whatever, right?
	Literally, RFK is attacking our Constitution and the First Amendment on behalf of his masters.
	That's what's literally happening.
	And you called him out yesterday, and a lot of people did.
	He is literally attacking the Constitution.
	RFK is anti-Second Amendment and anti-First Amendment.
	I almost took him to the Darien Gap, by the way.
	It was top secret at the time.
	And then he talked about it on a major podcast in advance.
	I'm like, that's it.
	I'm out.
	I can take you in safely if you keep your mouth shut.
	You know what I mean?
	But when you talk about it on a podcast, I'm not going.
	You know what I mean?
	I can do it very safely.
	If you can zip and do a few things that I tell you to do, it's no problem.
	I mean, where's the judgment on that?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Well, yeah, it's a security issue.
	But I am just, I mean, maybe I'm thinking too far into this, but I'm thinking that he still has to, he's got to still appease certain people in order to not be thrown out of the place.
	And, you know, I hate the stuff that he's saying right now.
	And that tweet about anti-Semitism is, Utterly insane, in my view.
	But I know that a lot of the big donors to Children's Health Defense are Jewish donors.
	And it seems like he's keeping the Jewish donors happy right now.
	He needs new donors.
	I mean, seriously.
	If the cost of me taking your money is I have to kill my own kids, what kind of fool is going to take the money, right?
	Mice, money, ideology, coercion, ego.
	I don't know what it is with him.
	If it's money and ideology, it clearly doesn't seem to be ideology.
	It looks to be more like ego and money and maybe coercion, right?
	He's had a wild life, I've been told.
	And he's quite fit now.
	But anyway, they probably got some coercion on him.
	I don't know about that.
	But the bottom line is, at the end of the day, if you're taking the money and sacrificing human life, And attacking our Constitution in exchange for it?
	That's treason.
	That's straight-up treason.
	That is unambiguous treason.
	Are you attacking our First Amendment so you can get donor money?
	That's treason.
	All right, we'll have to wait and see where he goes with it.
	I'm still going to say it's early in his, you know, he's only been in there a couple weeks.
	And he's facing this insane infiltration by big pharma.
	All of FDA, CDC, and HHS, they are vaccine fanatics, like the worst fanaticism that you've ever seen anywhere in the world.
	That's the way they are with vaccines.
	They just want to jab children, even when children are sick.
	It's a crazy fanaticism.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Cults are going to cult, Michael.
	You know that.
	I mean, it's a cult.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And it's another thing that cults will do.
	There are certain cults in recent years that have openly poisoned their base, like Jim Jones.
	Well, let's say Joe Rogan and Elon Musk.
	Hey, kids, let's all do dope together, right?
	That's like, okay.
	And let's see, that guy in Israel.
	The Zionist.
	Netanyahu, right?
	Jabbing his own people, letting drugs just go all over his streets there.
	Israel is clearly under attack from their own guy, Netanyahu.
	Netanyahu's attacking Israel as much as he's attacking us.
	And then there's Trump.
	Poisoned his own base.
	Poisoned his own base.
	And yet his base still stick with him.
	That is a cult.
	That is Jim Jones-level cult.
	Well, but hold on, Michael.
	I mean, what choice?
	Do we have, I mean, we can't, we couldn't vote for Kamala.
	No way.
	No way.
	I'm not going to vote for Kamala.
	She would absolutely destroy.
	But why, it only works if you feed it.
	If people kept funding Trump, funding Trump, it's either Kamala or Trump, it's either Kamala.
	That's why they ran Kamala, because they wanted Trump.
	Because they wanted, they wanted, he was going to win no matter what.
	They used to install him, right?
	And at the end of the day.
	You put him, look at Beto versus Abbott in Texas.
	Beto.
	And when I was calling out Abbott in that election, and people were like, who do you want, Beto?
	You've suddenly turned left wing.
	I'm like, no, no, no, no.
	Abbott is World Economic Forum.
	Full stop.
	There are other choices between Abbott and besides Abbott and Beto.
	Of course, nobody's going to vote for Beto or Clinton.
	You know, what's his name?
	A Speaker of the House.
	Newt Gingrich called me years ago trying to rustle up support for Trump.
	And I'm like, I'm not going to.
	Thank you for calling me, sir.
	How'd you get my number?
	But I'm not going to vote for Clinton.
	There's no chance.
	Trust Trump.
	This was before the first election, right?
	And this was before the first election, when it was between Clinton and Trump.
	I'm like, I'm never voting for Clinton.
	But don't you have somebody besides Trump?
	He's not a serious dude.
	The guy's just an actor, right?
	But, you know, we got, so everybody going along with it.
	Yeah, Trump's the greatest guy.
	Jab.
	Oh, no, Fauci fooled him.
	No, Fauci didn't fool Trump.
	Trump fooled you.
	Fauci did not fool Trump.
	Fauci is just another little actor.
	And Zelensky is another little actor.
	Zelensky and Trudeau and Ruta over in Netherlands, little actors, the king, king cuck of England.
	Look at this guy.
	He has given his country away.
	England, United Kingdom, gone, gave it away.
	All these people, what did they have on them?
	Did they like have a timeshare at Epstein Island or something?
	I don't know.
	But they're not doing anything that's in their own interest.
	As Trump does these things, it's not in the interest of the United States, and it's not in the interest of himself or his family.
	I mean, like the Border Patrol people I would see in Texas and Arizona and New Mexico and California loading up the buses, tens of thousands of people.
	And I would bring up all the time, why are you doing this?
	They're like, oh, it's my job.
	I've got to get my retirement.
	It was always about their job and their retirement.
	In other words, money.
	It's about money, right?
	And so for money, they will be ordinary men and load the buses.
	To their own destruction, right?
	They're like, well, if I don't do it, somebody else will.
	Well, don't let it be you, right?
	I mean, it's like, you know, true.
	I mean, why are you doing this?
	You should be like, all you Border Patrol people should be holding hands saying, we're not going to load the buses.
	We're not going to help the invasion.
	But they did.
	They did.
	They ran the camps and then blamed it on the Mexican cartels.
	Blamed it on the Mexican cartels.
	Blamed it on the Mexican cartels for taking people from Angola, Africa, through Istanbul, Turkey, over to either Brazil or Ecuador, and then through Colombia, and then through the Darien Gap, and then all the way up to America.
	And then the Border Patrol loads them on a bus and blames the Mexican cartels.
	You can't make up this stuff.
	I mean, it takes an intense level of ignorance to even believe that all this is because of Mexico.
	That's the most...
	What about the ones coming into Canada or the ones coming from Morocco?
	I went over to Morocco and looked at this with Chuck Bolton.
	The ones going from Morocco into Spain.
	The ones going from so many other places into Greece.
	We went to Greece and looked at this as well.
	We went to many countries looking at this, right?
	And what's a common denominator?
	United Nations is a common denominator.
	Who is the biggest funder of United Nations?
	United States of America is the biggest funder of the United Nations.
	We are doing it, right?
	We're still invading Europe.
	We're still invading Canada.
	We're still invading the United States and pretending that we're not.
	We just reduced the numbers to a significant level so that people like my friend, Todd Bidsman, we're having a very gentlemanly argument now because I respect Todd a great deal.
	We've been down to Mexico together.
	We've been across the U.S. border.
	He's the one that introduced me to Colony Ridge, north of Houston there.
	Oh, wow.
	We put that on the map.
	That was Todd.
	So Todd's a very serious man.
	He's traveled over to Colombia and Panama and over to Europe in dangerous places.
	I was tracking his beacon, you know, making if something happened to him, I was going to get on an airplane with a team and go find him type stuff.
	We're friends, right?
	We disagree sharply with what's happening right now.
	But Todd, He published something yesterday or the day before.
	He's saying that the major invasion is now over.
	He doesn't call it invasion.
	He doesn't call it invasion.
	He calls it migration.
	That's something that he and I have argued about endlessly.
	I went to his home.
	We're arguing about it.
	Todd is great.
	We share a lot of information.
	I immensely respect him, but we argue about a few points, as you can imagine, as people like us would do.
	And I'm like, Todd, it's not migration.
	It's invasion.
	You've got to use the right words, or all else that follows is false, right?
	It's not migration.
	It's clear invasion, right?
	And anyway, you never would come off of that.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But now, I'll close on.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Okay.
	No, no, go ahead.
	Wrap that up, and then I have a question.
	You know, he thinks that the major invasion is over, and I'm like, look, I've been through this war stuff too much and too many wars and countries and all this stuff.
	It appears to me like a halt.
	It's a reduction.
	It's not a halt.
	It's a reduction in operations.
	That's what's going on.
	It's a temporary, almost ceasefire, reduction in hostilities, but for other reasons, for instance, so that Trump can tame his base and get them to do other things that they want to do.
	And so you gotta, you know, tame the base down.
	Plus, the base sends a huge amount of money in support to Trump, right?
	And this is, again, when you ask, well, what can we do?
	First, don't support, don't financially support people that are gonna do treason against you.
	I mean, because support somebody else.
	I get almost no support because the things that I say.
	I mean, I'm not treasonous.
	And I'm not rich because of it.
	I could make huge money if I joined the Trump team.
	They have offered so many times a seat at the table as the actual word in another instance on another thing that was also huge.
	Keys to the kingdom, right?
	And I'm like, no, because I have to sleep at night, right?
	And because there are some people, it's a small number of us, for whatever reason, I don't know if it's genetic or social or...
	Firmware programming or something, it's just like treason is very, very difficult.
	It's very difficult to do, right?
	For some people, it's as natural as breathing.
	For others, it's very difficult.
	For me, for whatever reason, I wish it weren't so difficult.
	I could be quite wealthy, but I'm not.
	I'm only wealthy in my soul, which is pretty serious wealth.
	That's more important, actually.
	It's very important.
	But the point is, is stop giving your money to people like Trump.
	Stop giving your money to people like Abbott.
	And if there's not, there always is another choice.
	It's not a choice between those two.
	It looks like there's only a choice between those two because the spotlights are put on those two.
	But there's all these other people out there, right, that could, through grassroots.
	They could be getting the support, right?
	But it didn't happen.
	We got Trump again.
	It's all part of a big act.
	It's very clear.
	It's kayfabe.
	You know, I got that term from Eric Weinstein.
	I don't know Eric.
	I took his brother Brett to the Darien Gap.
	He loves the jungle and came back with very wise analysis of what's going on in the Darien Gap.
	I'm incredibly happy that...
	Brett came down to the Darien Gap with my Burning Edge team.
	And Chris Martinson, too.
	You've had him on your show.
	You've had both of them on your show.
	Their analysis of what was happening in the Darien Gap was very good.
	They were Johnny on the spot.
	But the bottom line is the gap is still open.
	It is still open.
	It's flowing at a low rate.
	But the infrastructure is fully in place.
	The plumbing has not been ripped out of the ground.
	And remember, what Trump is doing right now, let's say we're facing Mike Tyson.
	Mike Tyson, he's got dukes up, and Trump is slapping his hands.
	Trump is like slapping Mike Tyson's hands.
	He's not going for his head.
	He's not going for his ribs.
	He's not going for his legs.
	He's slapping Mike Tyson's hands.
	He's like, we're slapping you back over the border.
	Slapping you back.
	Mike Tyson's strong.
	He's still there, got his legs, you know, and the camps in the Darien Gap are still open.
	All that infrastructure, the human architecture of this, it's all in place and it's still all funded.
	USAID isn't funded, but the biggest one, United Nations, fully funded.
	This is far from over.
	The flows are still ongoing.
	Masako, she flew with the Chinese over from Panama City to Istanbul three days ago.
	IOM was working in the Panama airport with their little vest, and they wear these little IOM vests, or here it's OIM in Spanish.
	And then she landed in Turkey, and IOM was there as well, in their little vest in the Istanbul airport, right?
	We see them all over the world.
	They're helping people move all over the world.
	They are an actual sort of underground railway that happens right in front of God and everybody.
	It's right in front of you.
	So, okay, so from what you're saying, it seems like you're pretty pessimistic about there being any real long-term changes to this and that it's a lot of talk to get people on board with whatever the next part of the agenda is.
	And I want to talk about that, the next part of the agenda at this point, because I've seen a lot of people saying, and I don't agree with this assessment, but I want to throw it out there.
	Some people say, well, Trump and Musk are just tricking us all into CBDCs and depopulation.
	And I have talked about the rise of the robots, and the globalists do want to exterminate billions of people because robot labor is coming online.
	Elon Musk has his own Tesla robot factories coming online with massive output coming in the next three years.
	We're talking tens of millions of robots.
	These robots are going to be able to replace human labor.
	It's now very clear.
	You know, warehouse workers, security, hospital, education, you know, landscaping, freaking you name it, man.
	They'll do it all.
	And they'll do it for about $2 an hour, it turns out.
	So, you know, imagine that.
	So, Michael, with that set up, do you think that's what's happening?
	We're just being kind of led into this globalist slave system?
	Yeah, but, you know, this is a complex thing, as you well know.
	I mean, you've got a complex mind.
	And when I took Brett Weinstein down to the jungle, you know, he does PhD work down here in the Panama jungle.
	And he asked me, who's running this thing?
	And I'm like, I don't know, Brett, who runs the jungle?
	I mean, it's a complex system of complex systems.
	It defines, I mean, who is actually, there are many globalists.
	And they're, they are.
	Globalists who are enemies of each other, oligarchical fights, family fights.
	There are frenemies.
	There are enemies.
	There are friends that overlap.
	And, you know, these groups want depopulation.
	So, you know, on the Venn diagram, they all overlap there, but they disagree on something else.
	So, I mean, it is a jungle.
	Like, who runs the jungle?
	That's why nobody can quite figure out, or to my knowledge, nobody has quite figured out.
	Who's really running this thing?
	Because I don't think any individual is really running it.
	The Zionists don't run it.
	The CCP doesn't run it.
	The Russians don't run it.
	They all run their parts of it.
	And, you know, then there's the Indians, of course.
	Don't discount the Indians.
	And many others who have significant, let's say, Some sort of power that causes them to be a major player or setting them up to be a major player, right?
	And so this is very complex.
	If you feel frustrated, you can't figure out what's going on.
	I mean, Einstein, whose statue of his head is down the road from me, he couldn't tell you what the weather was going to be next week, right?
	You can take Einstein and Feynman and Niels Bohr, all these guys.
	You can take them all.
	You can take Isaac Newton and all those guys together, Pythagoras, and guess what?
	All together in the same room, they couldn't tell us what the weather's going to be next week, right?
	And that's what's going on with this.
	It's a complex system of complex systems.
	It's not just there's blue team and red team headquarters.
	It's not that simple.
	Yeah, okay.
	Agreed.
	It's a complex system.
	And what is the endgame of this system?
	And again, I'll just reiterate, I don't agree with all the worst-case scenarios here, but I do believe that there is a plan to eliminate billions of human beings.
	That's clear.
	Seven billion.
	That's crystal clear.
	And the rise of the robots...
	I mean, think about the globalists.
	Why did they need humans?
	They needed humans to have labor and cognition.
	Those two things, labor and cognition.
	That's what built the Panama Canal, right?
	That's what built buildings and all the engineering, and that's what built computers and everything.
	Well, cognition is now replaceable by AI, and in the next two years, most labor will be as well.
	So why do they need humans?
	What, for their votes?
	That's all rigged anyway.
	They rigged that with machines.
	They don't need humans.
	They don't need humans, or not many.
	Yeah, and they don't need the votes of a bunch of Venezuelan gangsters today and day at Agua.
	They're not being brought in for votes.
	That's right.
	Now, a lot of these things, as you know, they don't reconcile.
	Like, we can clearly see that a lot of people are depopulating the Earth.
	That's obvious.
	But then there's other people that are clearly building architecture for increased.
	Right?
	Not decreased, right?
	If you decrease the population by 7 billion people, you don't really need all these new ships that they're building.
	So there's different oligarchical structures doing their own things, right?
	That's true.
	And so that's why it gets so confusing to people.
	They're like, well, that doesn't make sense.
	If they want to depopulate the world, then why are they building new ships?
	Why are they doing this?
	Why are they doing that, right?
	Because there are some people that are doing this.
	And there's other people, and they might all be globalists, but they're globalists in different forms.
	I mean, I was raised globalist, and I guess I am globalist.
	I mean, I was raised Christian, right?
	And Christians are globalists.
	We want the world to be Christian, right?
	And Hindus want the world to be Hindu.
	And Muslims want the world to be Muslims.
	And that is actually theological globalism, right?
	And the Jews don't want the world to be Jewish, but there's a lot of them, not the Jews or the Christians or the Muslims.
	It's subsets of these people, right?
	There is a subset of Jews that want to not, they don't want everybody to be Jewish, but they want to rule the other rulers, right?
	And so there are different firmwares that are at play here.
	Like the Catholic Church has its own, and then it has subsets there, right?
	And Islam, many subsets, right?
	And then there are the economic globalists, and then there are the political globalists, like, you know, the ones that want the whole world to be communist because they're basically, I don't know where they come up with this idea, Karl Marx or whatever, but actually, but if you look at communism, I spend so much time with tribes and...
	And in villages around the world, and all these little villages are basically little communist enclaves, right?
	I mean, within their village, you can see where it's easy to sell to humans the idea of communism, but that's another form of globalism, right?
	There's so many forms of globalism.
	I look at these books, like this one is on the Nicaraguan Canal.
	Some of these are studies on the Nicaraguan Canal, Suez Canal, and that sort of thing.
	But I have a bunch of books that I've gone through over in Japan, over on Rome.
	You look at Rome, and you look at...
	They had a Belt and Road Initiative.
	You know, the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.
	That's economic, and they want the world to be Han Chinese.
	They don't want you to be their religion.
	They don't want you to convert.
	They want to kill you.
	They want to kill you or make you a slave.
	It's either kill or make slave, right?
	That's it.
	They want the world to be Han Chinese.
	They want them to speak Mandarin, period.
	Mandarin, and you be Han Chinese, and you be loyal to the Chinese Communist Party.
	That's that level.
	And so you see the Belt and Road Initiative that's going on, which is quite serious.
	So they are major globalists.
	They're not the only ones, and they cooperate with the ones who want the world depopulated.
	And they cooperate with many others as well.
	But you look at these Belt and Road Initiatives.
	The Romans were doing it.
	This goes way back.
	I mean, when I look at, for instance, I picked up the report to Congress from Commodore Perry, Matthew Perry, when he went to Japan in 1853 and 1854. He was there on basically the U.S. Belt and Road Initiative.
	He went there and there's a report to Congress.
	It's a stack of books this high.
	It's four books.
	But if you look online, it says it's three books.
	It's false.
	It's four books.
	And they're unbelievable books.
	Then I've got a book that I picked up the other day.
	It's a similar study in Panama from 1870. I might have it here somewhere.
	And I've got a few of the old books I just found getting repaired.
	It might be that one.
	But you can see the same sort of behaviors that we see today.
	I see them all through time.
	It's never ended.
	It's an evolution that's constantly blossoming.
	That tree dies, another tree grows.
	That tree dies, another tree grows.
	And so whether it's Rome or before, these things, the globalists have always been there.
	And now, though, they're in a position to do things that nobody's been in a position to do before.
	For instance, basically see the whole world at once with these satellites up here and with all the cameras that are on the ground that are augmenting them and with all the other surveillance systems and to actually depopulate.
	Yeah, correct.
	And, I mean, continuing your point, the globalists are in a position to do today what has never been possible in the known history of human civilization, which is to replace the human...
	Cognitive resource.
	Yes.
	Machines.
	So Rome never faced that, right?
	No other country.
	I mean, you look at even Stalinist Soviets.
	They had to control people because they needed their labor and they needed their brains.
	And that's been all of history that we've ever known.
	And that changes now because we don't need a human being to do the engineering.
	Let me just give you an example, Michael.
	A friend of mine was just sending me a link.
	There's an AI program where if you take a picture of a blueprint of your house, just the blueprint plans of your house, just take a photo, this AI engine will do all of the cost analysis of all the materials.
	It will calculate everything that you need to build that house and give you an estimate in two minutes instead of it taking two weeks for a human being to do it.
	Two years later, a robot will cut the wood and drive the nails and run the power tools.
	And you can build that house for a fraction of human cost.
	And that's almost right here.
	So this change has never been possible before.
	And it tells me that they need vaccines to get rid of humans.
	Yeah, and this.
	Or war.
	And this.
	Because the weapons of mass migration, they don't want these people just to be labor.
	That's not what this is about.
	These are soldiers, right?
	Whether they know they're soldiers or not.
	Because let's use Ireland, since it's an island as an example, and I went there looking at this.
	They've been invaded, right?
	And I just got a message this morning from Ireland.
	They're having murders every day now, right?
	We've mapped out all the camps.
	Oh, yeah.
	Straight up, it's on.
	It's on.
	It's game on, right?
	So the soft genocide is clearly underway, right?
	Well, it's not soft anymore.
	There are actually a lot of murders.
	And so rape, murder, rape, murder.
	So a lot of Irish are leaving.
	So that's when they willfully deport, they're self-deporting.
	So that's a soft genocide.
	The hard genocide is the rape and murder, right?
	But I think what we're seeing is a nested genocide.
	We're going to see these guys.
	Come in and either kill or run off these guys.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Here's the Irish.
	They're going to kill or run off these guys.
	And then these guys are going to be killed because they're useless.
	Nobody wants them, right?
	And that's why they're coming in from all these different countries.
	It's already Tower of Babel stuff, right?
	Because these guys can't cooperate with each other.
	You know, it's Arabs and it's...
	Pakistanis and it's Bangladeshis and people from Nigeria.
	So they're not going to be able to get together and bind together.
	They'll never be able to do it, right?
	So once you use these guys to kill these guys, these guys are simple to kill.
	You can just cut off the food to Ireland, let them do Planet of the Apes on each other for a while.
	Spray them with whatever you're going to spray them with, whatever you're going to do to them.
	Poison their water with cholera, it doesn't matter.
	But the bottom line is, they're easy to kill, right?
	The technology is there.
	But once people like us in the United States are being hit with this, once we are off our base, there's no cavalry to come.
	There's no cavalry to say, hey, you can't genocide Ireland.
	We've got our own problems.
	You're just going to genocide it in silence.
	Nobody's going to know that Luxembourg got erased.
	Nobody's going to know, except for the people in Luxembourg.
	The neighboring areas there in Germany and Netherlands and France, that's it, right?
	But they got their own problems, right?
	So I think what we're seeing here is nested genocides.
	First comes the first one, and then the second one.
	Meanwhile, these people are vacating their own countries, and they're going to be genocided back at home as well.
	That's a really good term.
	I'm making a note of that.
	Nested genocide.
	I think we're going to title this whole interview about nested genocide.
	That's a really good term.
	I've said that before on, I think, with you talking about Israel.
	I think that's what's happening there as well.
	Yeah.
	I think Israel itself, I mean, they're genociding Gaza right now, but whether Israel realizes it or not, they're also being genocided.
	For instance, here in Panama, A lot of Israelis are moving here.
	They're moving down to Argentina.
	I just spent two months down there.
	They're leaving.
	So that's the soft part of it.
	But the Israelis are getting hit hard with the drugs too, right?
	And they also got jabbed.
	Now, a lot of people are saying, well, and even RFK has said that certain genotypes are not affected by those vaccines.
	They're not vaccines.
	They're weapons.
	I don't know if that's true or not.
	It could be true.
	RFK said it.
	Is it true?
	Unknown to me.
	But they do appear to be getting attacked by the drugs.
	Israelis, I've traveled with Israelis a lot over the years with great enjoyment in India and Nepal and Thailand and places like that.
	And I've gone over to Israel and that sort of thing.
	I get along with Israelis quite well, actually.
	Weirdly, because I now don't want to have anything to do with Israel.
	But Israelis, I can get along with.
	But Israel has become like Canada.
	It's become, except highly, much more violent, right?
	And I think, though, what's happening in Israel is you're going to see a nested genocide.
	The Israelis are being used to do some genocide.
	And then I think what's going to happen is they're going to be genocided.
	It doesn't mean necessarily killing.
	I'm not sure, but it looks like multiple players are at work here, including Zionists, right?
	Now, keep in mind, Zionists are not Israel.
	Zionists use Israel, just like Zionists.
	And what are Zionists?
	We talked about that for two hours, and I still don't know.
	By the way, I found a bond.
	I found a bond the other day, and I bought it here in Panama City.
	I was buying these old books.
	There was an 1899 bond by, you know, Theodore Herzl and his team selling bonds to take Palestine.
	And I bought the bond.
	I have it, actually.
	No kidding.
	Yeah, I think I sent you a copy the other day.
	I photographed it.
	And so, yeah, so, you know, he was raising money to take Palestine, to take the land from the Palestinians.
	I mean, it's legit.
	You can look at these online, you know.
	Well, heck, I'll just put it up on my substack here shortly so you can see it.
	But, I mean, these bonds are really amazing.
	And they're also in this antique bookstore where I just bought a bunch of more books.
	They also sell bonds for the French Canal here through Panama, which went defunct and whatnot.
	But what I'm getting to with that is all of this, nothing is new.
	These are evolutions of things that have been going for a long time.
	The 1899 bonds by Theodore Herzl and his guys.
	I mean, this is long going on, right?
	Well, look, let me throw out, I think that who's going to go after Israel next is going to be Egypt, then Turkey, then Iran.
	Egypt needs that canal, the Suez Canal.
	A lot of the traffic from the Suez is rerouting through the Panama Canal right now, by the way.
	But again, because again, wars grow.
	That's what it's doing.
	They grow unexpectedly, although I expected Egypt, and I was saying it many times, to possibly or probably get involved.
	I think that they will, but I don't know.
	I think that they will.
	They need that canal.
	And obviously, listen, if you're a Zionist, and they're clear about this.
	You want the Panama Canal.
	I think the fight over the canal is between Zionist and Chinese more than anything else.
	When I say this, maybe 1% of the people can even track with what I just said.
	But I think this fight is between Zionist and Chinese, not between America and Chinese.
	And likewise down in Argentina.
	And I have reasons for saying this.
	It's not out of the blue, but I would have to get the chalkboard out.
	But the bottom line is I think that what we're seeing is Of the seven major choke points in the world, Panama Canal, Suez Canal, Babal-Mandeb, and Strait of Hormuz, that's all gettable.
	That's not all of them.
	Of course, you've got Strait of Malacca and Turkish Straits and Strait of Gibraltar, but that's seven, right?
	But the four that I'm talking about, Panama Canal, Babal-Mandeb, Suez Canal, And Strait of Hormuz, that is within reach.
	It might take a few generations or a couple of generations or maybe just one.
	But you can, the Zionists can take Suez.
	Once they've got Gaza, which they're having a problem doing, remember all those people that are like, this war will be over in a few months or two weeks.
	You know, Israel will smash them down.
	But again, wars last longer than you expected.
	But once Israel, if...
	The Zionists, let's say, not Israel, but let's say if the Zionists get Gaza, they'll get that energy as well.
	They can then later get into position using the United States and other mechanisms to take the Suez Canal, right?
	And then build the Ben-Gurion Canal through Israel, right?
	Open up the Indo-European corridor from Mumbai, India through UAE, Saudi, Jordan, and Israel through Gaza and Haifa, right?
	So, I mean, this puts you into an immensely power.
	That's why they want to take out Iran.
	If you take out Iran, it's not just about, this isn't some big enemy thing between Iran and Israel as much as it is, I mean, let's say between Muslims and Jews.
	As much as it is between Zionists and others, it's a battle over resources.
	It's a battle over land, it's a battle over energy and resources and routes.
	Absolutely it is.
	But I would add that I don't think Russia, I mean, Russia is going to defend Iran because Iran is one of Russia's major trading partners, as you know.
	Russia needs Iran.
	Absolutely.
	And when Russia was cut off by the West through the SWIFT system and the sanctions.
	Russia needed to lean on countries like Iran and India and even Turkey and China, especially China, for trade and all the oil.
	You know, Russia still managed to export oil.
	It just didn't do so as profitably as before.
	And of course, you know what happened at Gazprom.
	We talked about that.
	But I would say that Russia is not fooled by Trump's sudden You know, let's be buddies attitude.
	I think Putin...
	They're Russians, man.
	You know, they're not fooled.
	They're not fooled.
	Because their memories go back a thousand years.
	They're like, okay, we can't trust the West because the West lies.
	We invaded Russia.
	Americans don't remember that.
	Russians do.
	Well, yeah, and the Russians remember the Minsk agreements and how the West violated everything since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
	You know, Russians have memories.
	They can actually think, unlike half the U.S. State Department, which is still a bunch of morons, although maybe that's changing with Rubio there now, but it was a bunch of morons and traitors with Newland and Blinken and all those people.
	They didn't know anything about history.
	So my point is, I don't think Israel can take the Strait of Hormuz.
	I mean, are you kidding me?
	Iran is right there.
	Not now.
	Not now.
	I'm saying generations.
	You've got to set this up.
	And it wouldn't be Israel.
	It would be using us, right?
	I see.
	Because you've got to, I mean, I look at this in a complex way.
	This isn't like simple math, you know.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	But I can easily see a path where that could occur.
	And they clearly see that path where it could occur.
	It could occur.
	It could be.
	Conditions can slowly be set over time, and that's what they're working on now in fits and starts.
	It's not really going as well as they thought it would.
	I think it's quite clear that a lot of people thought that Israel would just spank Gaza and then roll over, but it hasn't worked.
	And so, I mean, Israel is...
	Remember, Israel can be destroyed.
	And a lot of the Israelis...
	One of the weaknesses that Israel has is...
	Or let's say that this is complex on even how to frame this, how the Zionists have using Israel.
	And so a lot of the Israelis know they can move to the United States.
	They can move to Miami.
	They can move here to Panama.
	There's a huge amount of them live a few hours from me here in Panama.
	They got their whole community up there with its own security.
	They do the same down in Argentina.
	So the Israelis, or let's say the Jewish people, not Israelis because a lot of the Israelis, of course, are Muslims and yada yada, but a lot of the Jewish Israelis that will stick together are moving to places like Panama.
	And I think in the future, I don't have any direct evidence to say this.
	This is an intuitive thing to say.
	I think you'll end up seeing them.
	Israeli Jews in Guatemala, I think.
	And there's reasons why I suspect that.
	Yeah, I don't have...
	Again, I can't defend that very hard, but I think if you put that on your Post-it note, and I think in the future, I've been watching this now for a couple of years, I think eventually it's going to happen.
	I have reasons to think that.
	But first of all, I had dinner actually a couple of times with a...
	With a Jewish leader up in Guatemala.
	He lives there.
	Very smart man.
	Very engaging guy, actually.
	And we were talking about Israel and Guatemala.
	Of course, he's a hardcore Zionist.
	And the relationship between Guatemala and Israel is quite close.
	And one of the people we were having dinner with, maybe both of the dinners, but it was a Guatemalan woman.
	And she said, you know, because Israel...
	They're not highly suspicious of Guatemalans.
	And she said, you know, with the problem with the Palestinians, we could just bring over Guatemalan workers to Israel.
	And the people at this table are the type of people that could actually cause that to start happening, right?
	This wasn't just chit-chat, right?
	But this Guatemalan lady, she's a very smart lady.
	And I've spent a huge amount of time talking with her.
	And she said, why don't we...
	Make a program between Guatemala and Israel that Guatemalans replace the Palestinian workers.
	And this Jewish business leader immediately, he's like, he saw that was a brilliant idea.
	He started talking details, you know, like napkin details.
	And then, you know, I think that they actually took that ball a little further down the road.
	And I think that they're serious about it.
	I don't know if they're doing it, but...
	I know that they have good relations, and a lot of Israelis go on vacation in Guatemala, and they like each other.
	You go to Guatemala, and there are streets named after Calle de Israel, the capital of...
	Calle de Jerusalem, like capital of Israel in Spanish.
	Stuff like that.
	Big Star of David downtown, like 50 feet high, 20 feet high.
	I get it.
	But the fact that you're telling me that just really...
	Reiterates to me that most of the world still doesn't realize that humans are about to be replaced by robots.
	I mean, you won't need Guatemalan workers.
	You won't need Gazan workers.
	It'll all be just robots.
	And it's not science fiction.
	Even Elon Musk, his humanoid robots will do a thousand household tasks from laundry and dishes and sweeping the floors and checking on the baby and checking on grandma and hospital work.
	Warehouse work and police work.
	They're going to be soldiers too, by the way.
	Nobody will need a mass of other humans to come in and do any work for them, including cooking or cleaning or manufacturing or anything.
	And it's funny to me because I still, even when I talk to other people in the business world, they do not understand what has happened with AI. They're in a state of denial.
	They're in a state of denial.
	And I'm like, I'm using this every day.
	And by the way, Michael, we're going through our entire supply chain logistics system, and we are AI-powering the whole thing.
	We're implementing that right now.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	Something just came in from a Panamanian thought leader.
	He says, this is a serious dude in Panama.
	He just sent me a message.
	He said, Molino calls Trump a liar.
	The guy that sent the message, he loves Trump.
	He hates Molino.
	He's like, we spend a lot of time together.
	He's a super Trump lover.
	And he agrees with me.
	Everybody in the embassy should be fired, by the way.
	Because he said his reason for wanting to fire everybody in the embassy is because they're anti-Trump.
	And my reasons are they're anti-America.
	And they're helping the invasion.
	Let me say something, because you got me thinking here on this AI stuff.
	You know, I mentioned to you a couple times that Misako, Ganaha and I, and Chuck Holton, we went to Tokyo.
	And because Chuck and Misako wanted to interview this Japanese guy that married a doll, right?
	It's a plastic doll, right?
	So we went to his apartment.
	Oh, yeah, man.
	He married a doll?
	Michael, it was spooky.
	How did it say, I do?
	We went through all that.
	Oh, he's even got a book of their marriage.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so we're in a small apartment.
	It's like a submarine apartment.
	And he didn't have any food there.
	He had enough food for maybe one or maximum two meals.
	Well, the doll doesn't need any food.
	Yeah.
	But what I'm getting to is he had no resilience.
	He had no fat on his body.
	Man, this guy is like...
	I don't know, 5% body fat.
	You know, he's like skinny.
	Yeah, and his little bathroom was filled with toilet paper.
	I'm like, somebody didn't take math.
	And, you know, it's like, you know, he's got a bunch of toilet paper, but he didn't have any food.
	And anyway, and actually most Japanese, anyway, but the point is a lot of people have married dolls in Japan now.
	And I asked him at one point, I said, oh yeah.
	And I said he was a very friendly guy.
	He's Japanese, so they tend to be very polite.
	And I asked him, it was kind of spooky, actually.
	You know what I mean?
	Because I was like, I said to Masako, I was like, you know, just watch for knives or anything.
	Because actually, he seemed very friendly.
	I didn't get any, like, bad vibe from him.
	I just didn't feel right.
	You know what I mean?
	And I said, at one point, I said, what's your wife's name?
	And that made him angry.
	Like a flash of anger went across his face.
	He's like, her name is, you know, because she's some famous anime thing.
	She's an anime doll, right?
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah.
	He's like, do you know her name?
	And I was like, no, I mean, I don't watch cartoons.
	It's not cartoons.
	Okay.
	Anyway, what I'm getting to is with the AI thing, I'm wondering if that's part of the conditioning so that people just get used to, like, marry your doll, you know?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Well, no, I've already thought through a lot of the roles of AI, person-to-person roles, like, for example, to be your...
	Counselor to be your friend.
	We're going to have, especially young males who have lost all male fertility and everything, they're going to have AI girlfriends, right?
	Like AI robot girlfriends.
	And they're going to be emotionally attached to them.
	And they're going to lose all their social skills out in the real world.
	He was heavily emotionally attached to that plastic doll.
	I got photos.
	It was creepy.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, imagine when the doll can talk and move and, like, fold laundry and give you a massage and all that stuff.
	I mean, imagine the kind of, you know, non-human bonding that's going to happen there.
	So he had a baby, right?
	Had a baby, not a human baby, but a plastic one.
	And I said, is that your baby?
	And I was wondering how that worked.
	And he goes, no, no, no.
	That's a small, because when I go to restaurants, I can't take her.
	She's too big, so I take the small.
	Basically effigy of...
	Oh my god!
	I'll send you the photos.
	Yeah, it's over the top, man.
	He should have like a keychain version.
	If he can't take the baby somewhere, he has to have a keychain version.
	Oh yeah, I was like, why doesn't she have a ring?
	An even smaller doll.
	This is like Russian dolls.
	It's a smaller doll inside the bigger doll.
	Yeah, right.
	And he's like, let me play some music for you.
	Like this anime thing.
	If I publish this anime, I'll put it on my website.
	People will, they'll know what the name of this anime thing is.
	And it's some famous, he goes, let me play some music she composed and sings.
	She composed?
	Yeah, it's a plastic doll.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, he's like, he's totally like, as if it's, you know.
	Anthropomorphic, I mean, the doll is like, he's talking about her like, you know, she's alive sitting there.
	And the baby is, oh, yeah.
	That's why I was like, watch his hands, you know.
	And I was looking at her.
	That's why I went to the kitchen.
	I was like, is there any knives he can get too quickly?
	Are they hidden in the wall or something?
	I didn't feel any danger from him per se, but it was just like, you know, I'm somebody who's tracked cannibals and Al-Qaeda and all kinds of stuff.
	And every once in a while, I'm just like, I feel uneasy at the moment.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You know, the weird thing, Michael, your adventures...
	Sorry to interrupt.
	I'm having a little bit of latency here, but your adventures take you to people who either eat other humans or who...
	Who married dolls.
	And I was thinking, if you marry, he's got multiple dolls.
	So wouldn't that be like doll polygamy or doll-igamy?
	Who would call that doll-igamy if you marry more than one doll?
	I've got his contact.
	Go ask him.
	You want to interview this guy?
	I mean, you know.
	Oh, hell no.
	No.
	I can set that up.
	No.
	You know, the funny thing is, that guy's probably...
	That guy has probably never touched a gun in his life.
	And yet, I feel...
	Well, thank God for that.
	Yeah, and so I doubt that he knows any martial arts or anything like that.
	I doubt it, right?
	He literally weighed like, you know, a buck, you know?
	But so then, Misako and I, we got on a train and we went up to North Japan and we're with this bear hunter, right?
	He had seven guns.
	I think it was six rifles and a...
	Shotgun.
	And he had four freezers filled with bear and hogs and deer.
	We spent all day with him.
	He has guns.
	He kills stuff and eats it.
	And I felt at home.
	And no dolls.
	That guy doesn't have any dolls, right?
	I felt completely safe.
	Totally.
	I want to go back and see.
	I want to go bear hunting with him.
	But the guy that married the doll, I'm like, hey, man, something could go wrong here, you know?
	No, if I walk into a guy's house and he's got like...
	10 AR-15s on the wall, I'm like, oh yeah, I know this vibe.
	This is my wall.
	But if I walk in, he's got like 10 freaking dolls on the wall.
	Now I'm freaking out.
	That's one of the most just weird things I've seen in years, actually, married a doll.
	And I see a lot of really, really weird stuff.
	I did hunt cannibals successfully.
	And found a bunch of them.
	And they were never quite as weird as the guy who married the doll.
	Think about that for a minute.
	Fair enough.
	One of those cannibals is from Houston, by the way.
	His name was Gary Rayburn Stevenson.
	Well, Michael, this is going to get...
	No, we did a long interview with you about the cannibal story, but we've got to wrap this up.
	The thing is...
	We're going to see mass mental illness when the robots become close enough to humans in terms of talking, storytelling, emotional ties together.
	People are going to become emotionally attached to their robots way worse than the way people are attached to their mobile phone.
	People are not You know, like, companion attached to their mobile phone, mostly.
	But they will be to a humanoid robot, and they'll dress it up.
	You're going to have, like, transgender robot dress parties and stuff that's going to freak everybody out.
	Believe me, that's coming.
	Imagine you got a robot girlfriend, and she's actually, in Japanese, they were called Asagiman.
	Asagiman is a bad luck woman, bad luck girl.
	Agiman is a good luck girl.
	So Sagimon.
	Imagine the Japanese watching a Sagimon, right?
	So you got your Sagimon in the car and you're driving, well, probably won't be driving by then, maybe.
	And she's like, and she doesn't like you.
	And so she's been programmed to make you do bad things.
	And she's like, hey, that guy just cut you off.
	You're not half a man if you don't get him back.
	They're going to cause people to do insane stuff.
	I use the word Agimon and Sagimon because it's a...
	It's a word that Masako and I joke about sometimes.
	Give us the way to follow you, your Twitter handle, your Substack, all of that.
	Best is to go on Substack now.
	I'm transitioning from Twitter to Substack, which is people have been complaining a lot that I haven't done that.
	And thanks for those who follow my Substack, by the way.
	I really appreciate it.
	But Substack is the way I'm starting to go.
	Actually, it's easier for me.
	I can publish better on Substack, too.
	It's got better formats.
	So it's my name, Michael Yon on Substack.
	Great.
	So Michael Yon, Y-O-N dot Substack dot com.
	Thank you for taking the time today.
	And let me remind our audience that this has been a Brighteon dot com interview.
	Check out more at Brighteon dot com and feel free to share this interview on other channels and other platforms as well.
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	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
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