Sheriff Richard Mack joins Mike Adams to talk about Trump's Declaration of Foreign Terrorist...
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All right, welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and we've got a wonderful guest, just a true American hero.
Sheriff Richard Mack joins us today.
Welcome, Sheriff, to the show.
It's always an honor to have you back on, and it's been maybe too long, but man, we have a lot to talk about now, don't we?
Right when you think the news can run out, someday, it just does the opposite.
Yes, we have so much to talk about, Mike.
This is a great time for the return to our Constitution.
I'm really proud of what Trump has done in less than a month.
It's amazing.
And it's just, like I said before, we got on the air.
The miracles just keep happening, and we're really behind a few more miracles, at least two more, that absolutely need to take place.
Would be on the list of every Christian and every patriot in America.
All right, we're going to get to your list here, but let me start out first with, well, the news, of course, Kash Patel confirmed as head of FBI. He's been on this show, so, you know, that's cool to be able to say.
I've had the FBI director on my show.
Couldn't say that before now.
But the other thing is, you know, I have a lot of contacts with Texas law enforcement, and they tell me that they are now beginning to empty the county jails and they're turning over illegals, the violent illegals in particular, turning them over to ICE, who are taking them and processing them out.
And this never happened under Biden.
So this is a whole new thing where we're starting to get the bad people out of the jails and out of the country.
So please comment on sheriff's involvement nationwide with this process.
Well, I'm in touch with Tom Homan.
I can...
Call him or text him anytime I want, but I don't do it very often.
But I've had sheriffs that said, please give him my number.
Tell him we're with him all the way.
If he needs us to do anything, great.
And so I've passed those on to Tom, and I've told him that most of the sheriffs, it would be 80%.
Remember the map of the United States that was red, that showed red, indicating the support that...
Trump got by county, county by county.
And 80% of the counties voted for Donald J. Trump.
And so with that, I just pretty much assumed or deduced that 80% of the sheriffs in this country would be wanting to help him.
We have one sheriff in Iowa, Sheriff Marks, who said, I really want to help.
But everything's got to be totally constitutional.
And he's actually had my training.
It was about seven or eight years ago, but he was there, and he seemed like one of the best sheriffs in Iowa.
I don't mind any sheriff saying, we want to make sure everyone involved in this process is following the Constitution.
And he actually said something wrong.
He said, I know these immigrants, these illegal immigrants, Do not have constitutional rights.
They absolutely do.
There's no exception as to what crime you commit.
The Constitution covers everybody and every jurisdiction from Hawaii to Bangor, Maine, and every jurisdiction in between.
The Constitution does apply.
You can't just go up to somebody and say, Oh, you don't have any ID. Oh, you look Hispanic.
You must be from Venezuela.
You're gone.
No, they have to have due process.
They have to have hearings, just like anybody else.
We can't cut corners on the Constitution for anybody.
But what Sheriff Marks said also is if there's just a detention order from ICE, those are not constitutional and we can't participate.
I don't think he can make that call.
And I really think he's a good man.
I know he's trying hard.
But turning them over to ICE is totally constitutional.
Even if it's just word of mouth.
Hey, Sheriff, do you have any illegal aliens in your jail?
Yes.
Do they have criminal charges pending?
Yes.
Okay, let us know when we can come and get them.
That's all you need.
And the rest falls on ice.
And the federal government.
Okay, makes sense.
I think because Sheriff Marx is overplaying his hand, and I hope that we get back to full cooperation.
Yeah, I think that's really important.
And something you said, I need to ask a follow-up question, because I don't believe that a foreign person...
Just because they cross illegally into our border, suddenly they adopt all constitutional rights of the American.
Like, they don't have a Second Amendment right just because they, you know, went across the border.
And you're not saying that, right?
No, I'm not.
I'm just saying the rights to due process.
Okay, okay.
So the Fifth Amendment somewhat and absolutely every bit of the Sixth Amendment.
But, you know, first of all, you have to have...
Identification to purchase a gun.
And I guess they can get them on the streets, and they are.
But I'll remind you, Joe Biden wanted them armed for some reason.
Yeah.
So, no, I do not support illegals having guns, but they probably came here with them anyway.
So police need to believe that every one of these people are armed.
And if you remember, The video of the Tren de Aragua Venezuelan gangs entering the apartment complexes, they were all packing.
They were all carrying guns.
Right, and so that actually naturally leads to my next question with Trump declaring them to be foreign terrorist organizations.
Oh, good job.
Right, and given that so many of them crossed the border with illegal intent while being armed, I think that nullifies some of their so-called due process.
I mean, this is an invading armed enemy force at this point, is it not?
Being declared a foreign terrorist organization, doesn't that unleash a lot of law enforcement action capability without having to be delayed by the courts?
I mean, you know more than I do.
Please educate me on this.
Yeah, but I'm not talking about a whole...
You know, they get a lawyer.
If they want lawyers, you know, nothing's there to stop them, I guess.
And AOC, I'm sure, would help them get a lawyer.
She probably would.
She'd probably pay for their lawyers, yeah.
Yeah, she would.
You know, but no, they get a hearing.
And that's it.
And I think at that time, at the hearing, they determine the status of these Hispanics from Latin America.
Or wherever else they're from.
But it doesn't mean we can just go grab people and say, oh, you can't identify yourself?
Well, then we're going to ship you off to Venezuela.
No, they still get a hearing and a determination as to what they're doing here and what kind of identification they have.
And what's really sad is Minnesota sheriffs...
Have actually helped, and many other states, several other states, not many, but several, California included, and a few of these sanctuary states and cities, have made sure that these illegal aliens got driver's licenses, which facilitated them getting registered to vote.
That's right.
So this is going to take some paperwork undoing to achieve a sufficient due process for these people to make sure we're not sending home people who are here legally.
Or even worse, American citizens.
Well, right, absolutely.
We do not want to cause pain and suffering to American citizens regardless of their ethnicity or nationality.
And we welcome, like, Mexican Americans are a big part of what makes Texas such a great state, right?
We have many, many Mexican or Latino descendant people here.
They're a big part of the state.
But those who enter the country with ill intent, with weapons, with intent, There's no more tolerance for that.
What are you sensing from other sheriffs and other people?
Well, first of all, the sheriffs want to stop this crime.
And the Biden administration is not high on the list with the sheriffs because they would do nothing.
They lied.
Mallorca should be investigated and arrested.
And by the way...
Sheriff Mark Lamb conducted a criminal investigation on Mayorkas and turned it in to his county attorney for prosecution.
Oh, wow.
We're still trying to see where that case is.
Well, now the DOJ can look at Mayorkas.
They all should.
They should, yeah.
Yes, absolutely.
And there's no question that he lied to Congress and that he facilitated, aided and abetted illegal immigration.
And in other words, he aided and abetted...
The proliferation and drug trafficking, fentanyl, the fentanyl deaths, he aided and abetted human trafficking and specifically the wholesale selling of children worldwide.
And this was promoted and aided and abetted and actually caused the proliferation of all of these heinous crimes by our own federal government.
And Mayorkas and Biden and...
Kamala, we're at the top of doing all of that.
That's right.
Anyone who did that needs to be investigated now.
And I would say all the sheriffs in this country should follow Sheriff Lamb's example.
And if any of these crimes occurred in your county, you should be conducting your own investigation of these federal authorities or former federal authorities.
And if we do not, then how are we going to get politicians in Washington, D.C., To toe the line when they know there's never any repercussions or accountability.
That's right.
There must be criminal accountability.
Well, and we know that Mallorcas personally visited and approved the funds for the invasion camps in Panama, such as San Vicente, Lajas Blancas, and near the Darien Gap.
We had Michael Jan on numerous times touring the camps.
We were touring the camps.
And we were talking to Chinese nationals that were coming through those camps, because I speak Chinese.
I talked to them in Chinese, and I said, where are you going?
We're going to America in Chinese.
Okay, they're getting on the bus.
Those were invasion camps, Sheriff, and Mayorkas funded those.
Well, and I believe George Soros did as well, and he should be investigated.
Yes.
And the paper trail, the money trail, those investigations should be conducted.
You know, we're all thrilled with what Trump is doing.
But we cannot ignore the people who caused this problem in the first place.
And the intent, the criminal intent, is clearly there at bringing these people in intentionally so that they could get registered to vote.
And we will ignore or just accept as collateral damage all of the victims that were caused by this infiltration of illegal aliens into our country.
And the crimes that they have committed against Americans, and even the traffic accidents or other accidents that they caused by being here, the sheer numbers of the tens of millions that came in are going to be part of that, too.
But anyone drunk driving and causing the death, as it happened here in Mesa, Arizona, where a cop was run over while he was investigating a traffic accident, this whole thing just stinks to high heaven.
We're tired of this.
We're tired of the high-speed pursuits.
We're tired of the crimes.
We're tired of the taking over apartment complexes and the horrible crimes that they've committed.
Lake and Riley, and now there's going to be a law with her name on it.
You know, Mike, this has been so destructive.
And the traitors that committed these crimes need to answer for it.
And I pray that Pam Bondi is all over this, but I also pray that the sheriffs who've had these crimes committed in their counties take action against them.
This is necessary for the nation to heal.
There has to be accountability and there have to be prosecutions, I believe.
And because I've said the same thing in other areas like Fauci and, you know, RFK Jr. as head of HHS now, who has been on this show, you know, many times.
And, you know, look at the crimes committed.
Within the FDA, within the CDC, within NIAID. That doesn't even count, Kash Patel, now overseeing FBI and all the things that you're talking about.
So yeah, there has to be a reckoning.
There has to be accountability.
Let me remind our audience that you're coming to us here from the CSPOA, the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and the website here is cspoa.org.
And I notice you have something kind of cool here, kind of new.
Your fundraiser, what is this official wallet and badge and membership card?
Tell us about this.
Yeah, this is the official badge and wallet for CSPOA and any member of ours.
In fact, if you buy the wallet, you become a member.
And then you have the official CSPOA badge.
And this is totally authentic.
This is just like any detective in the country uses and wears.
Can you show us on camera?
Yeah, they're real.
Yeah, that's perfect.
No, I mean, can you show us?
Yeah, there we go.
We can kind of get a sense of the size of it and everything.
Yeah, so folks, but you keep that in your wallet, and there's a little hook on the back where you put it inside the wallet.
And folks, this is absolutely the stuff that I had.
They're heavy.
They're brass and some other metals, but they're heavy.
They're heavy duty.
They last a lifetime.
And this is the spirit of 76. They're $760.
And this is a fundraiser that we're doing at CSPOA. And yes, we need funds to continue.
So yes, we need your support.
We need your help.
And we're proud to turn this over to you for $760.
That's all you pay.
We pay the shipping.
And we get you your membership and you're on board with us.
And you're part of a peaceful and effective solution to have sheriffs, no matter who the president is, to have the sheriffs having the back of Trump or just the opposite if some, God forbid, in four years we get some other type of Biden in there or Kamala or AOC, which I find absolutely petrifying.
But look, Trump saved us.
He saved the Constitution and he saved our Constitutional Republic because he beat Kamala Harris.
America's Constitution was doomed and she was going to put the nails in the coffin of our Constitution.
We were done.
We have an opportunity to come back from that and we pray that you are working with your sheriff just as we train our posse members, our CSPA. To have a relationship with your sheriff and make sure he knows what you want him to be doing.
You are your sheriff's only boss, and he needs to hear from you.
That's a really good point, and I'm so glad you're offering something, a token that people can keep.
You know, it's great to show a friend or show in a conversation, show your local sheriff, hey, look, I'm a member of the CSPOA, and I want you to know that I support constitutional sheriffs, you know?
That's absolutely correct.
And folks, do not forget this.
You, we the people, are the only boss or supervisor the sheriff has.
That's right.
Please keep that in mind when you're dealing with your sheriff.
He has to walk a fine line to serve all the people.
But when he took his oath, he swore to all of you in God's name that he would protect and defend and preserve the United States Constitution, thereby protecting your God-given rights.
This is an amazing principle here.
It's what made us a constitutional republic.
Yes.
Because our public officials uphold and defend and preserve those precious principles that the founding fathers fought and died for.
Well, I'll tell you what.
Save one for me.
I'll make the donation.
I'll get one.
I'll put it in my car.
I'll carry it with me in my car next to my satellite phones and my Glock and my AR and whatever else I have in there, extra spare mags, you know, whatever.
A perfect trifecta.
A perfect trifecta.
Yeah, exactly.
You've got to be prepared these days.
But let's pivot to another topic because there's homicide of children happening in this country every day in abortion centers.
And this is homicide.
It murders a living, unique human being with a unique genetic code that has a brain, a heart, a soul.
And I understand that your organization is really fighting against the ongoing legalized murder Well, DOGE and all the talk about DOGE really has prompted us to say,
look, not probably, the most heinous corruption in Washington, D.C. is that they literally steal money from the taxpayers and funnel Over a half a billion dollars a year of that money to Planned Parenthood.
And then Planned Parenthood takes it and murders babies.
It's incredible.
Unreal.
And it is.
It's absolutely mind-blowing that this heinous, horrible process that we now call a woman's constitutional right.
How debased can we get that we call killing a child a constitutional right, which that really came to its zenith under Obama?
Obama kept saying, it's a constitutional right.
And the brainwashing of that slogan has affected America.
Let's not play games with this anymore.
We'll deprogram America that believes that that could ever possibly be.
And so we say the number one, number one, heinous corruption of Washington, D.C. is the stealing of taxpayer dollars, funneling that to Planned Parenthood, and then what does Planned Parenthood do?
Not only kill babies, but then they funnel donations back to the very politicians who funnel it to them in the first place.
These traders of Washington, D.C., these congressmen and senators, now are taking that money and getting it back from Planned Parenthood, who gets, again, over a half a billion a year.
And I don't even want to get into the issue of, oh, are you pro-life or pro-death or pro-choice?
That's not the issue here.
There is nothing that Planned Parenthood does that even mimics.
A governmental service to the people.
They are not part of our government.
They are not a government entity.
And they provide no government service whatsoever.
And so this funneling of our taxpayer dollars, and we go to jail if we stop doing this, but that's it for me.
This year is it for me.
I will no longer forward any of my tax dollars to a government that believes killing babies is okay.
And this is the year that we need to make this happen.
I believe we're going to be protected in this because the federal government, Doge, whoever, Trump, whoever, Congress, Congress is going to have to get involved in this because they're the ones that have allocated this money to Planned Parenthood in the first place, and they hold the purse strings.
But actually, ultimately, we the people own the purse strings on this, and we've got to stop doing this.
As long as, oh, well, it's a government law.
It's a government plan.
For us to hire our government to do this is absolutely back on us.
It is.
It is unethical to send money to Washington if we know it's being used for such nefarious purposes.
Now, a couple of things, and let me ask you a practical question on this.
You know, we agree on the ethics of what you're describing, or the lack of ethics in their case.
Also worth mentioning, the FDA uses these murdered human babies for organ harvesting, for their humanized mice experiments.
And that came out of the FOIA request from Tom Fitton and other groups.
So that's what the FDA does with this stuff.
They take organs from murdered babies and use them to make vaccines out of them.
That's what they do.
And that's all on the record.
It's all admitted.
It's all documented.
Yeah.
But a couple of things.
Number one, Lutnik confirmed and besent with Treasury.
They want to end the IRS. This is the new discussion.
They want to end the IRS, right?
This would be a positive thing.
But they can still print money and send it to murder babies, right?
So ending the IRS doesn't end the fact that our government is involved in this homicide, this organized homicide.
And even if we defund Planned Parenthood, it's not going to end abortion either.
But this is a huge step in the right direction.
This is my next question, right?
Wouldn't it be, from a practical standpoint, step one, stop funding it?
Correct.
Stop funding it.
And now, at that point, if, I guess, states or counties or donors or whatever would want to kick in because they love to murder babies and they want to write checks for it, well, that's different from public money being used for it, isn't it?
That's very different.
It's still not acceptable, I get it, but...
And I'm sure people are still going to donate to Planned Parenthood after that, as some do now.
But it cannot come from government, it cannot come from taxpayers, or forced at the point of a gun, which they do now.
Right.
Okay, then let's suppose that that happens.
Okay?
No public money.
Then my next question to you is, since you and I both believe that we must protect the constitutional rights of every American, isn't a unique...
Baby in formation.
Isn't that baby an American?
Doesn't that baby have constitutional rights that deserve to be protected by us as well?
It certainly has the right to breathe.
It has a right to life.
So the first tenets, life, I mean, our whole system is based on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If we're not protecting life at its most innocent stage and allowing this to occur.
And we've all got some culpability on that.
All of us.
You, me, everyone.
And I'm not going to accept that anymore.
So, yes, we have an obligation to make sure that that baby's life is protected and that it has a chance to become whatever it wants.
And for anybody to believe that that's just okay and it's just a woman's choice because it's her body.
It's not her body.
That body now belongs to someone else.
And first of all, it's God's child.
And the New Testament says that Mary was great with child.
And that is exactly what we're trying to protect.
Every baby deserves a chance to live and to breathe and to become part of the world and to exercise its...
Prerogative, whether or not to live or not, and to take that away from them inside the womb.
And this whole thing has been, you don't have to be careful.
You can just be as careless as you want, because you can kill the baby anytime you want.
And sometimes after the born, we'll still let you kill them.
And that has actually happened.
So it now becomes the responsibility of all of us to make sure this doesn't happen anymore.
And I believe that we can achieve that, but the first step, again, the first step is to defund Planned Parenthood and get taxpayers off that support.
Yes, I agree.
That's the first step.
And also, Trump pardoned a woman, I don't recall her name, who was one of the conscientious, quote, peaceful protesters outside an abortion clinic.
You recall who that was?
He did several, and yes, I'm so grateful that he did that.
Yeah, me too.
Me too, because they were being absolutely persecuted by the Biden regime.
And in California, the two individuals that filmed Planned Parenthood with an undercover video, I forgot their name, they were persecuted by Kamala.
I mean, you know, prosecution, I don't even know what the status of that lawsuit is, but they were facing real prison time for undercover journalism work.
One other one I want to add to this list of stop oppression and abuse.
And that's I've done so much work over the past 20 years with the Amish.
And we have the FDA and USDA who are right now going after Amos Miller in Pennsylvania.
And the sheriffs there won't do much, you know, and the state has taken away arrest authority from sheriffs in Pennsylvania.
So it's a real problem.
But every sheriff still took the same oath to pull and defend the Constitution.
And so Sam Gerard from Kentucky, Bath County, Kentucky, got six years in prison from a crook of a judge by the name of Danny C. Reeves.
And yeah, Chrisanne and I were there at the trial and the sentencing.
And there has been so much government abuse and oppression and crimes committed against the Amish who have never committed a crime.
Sam Girard did not commit a crime, and he was punished because he didn't get permission from the FDA. Well, it shows to me we need to abolish the FDA also then.
If the FDA is putting people in prison for not getting permission, then hell with them.
And this is happening all over the country.
Yeah, I'm glad to hear you say that, because we do need to abolish that agency, which is nothing but terrorists and tyrants.
Nothing but authoritarians.
Just about every bureaucracy has become that now.
Yeah, they have.
I think they wake up every day and they ask themselves, how can they hurt people across America?
That's their entire mission, is to cause harm and suffering and death.
There are no good people in those agencies that I'm aware of because they were kicked out long ago.
Maybe they turned into whistleblowers and then they were prosecuted by either Obama or Biden.
You said something a minute ago that reminded me of one other thing, too.
You said that the IRS or the Treasury Department can just print money, which, yeah, they'll keep doing that.
But that reminded me, one other thing to the list of my list.
So, yes, defund Planned Parenthood, abolish the IRS, and abolish.
Now, we all know that this is run by private bankers, but the federal government can still abolish the Federal Reserve.
Yeah, clearly that needs to happen because we shouldn't have this international banking cartel controlling our money creation since 1913. That's just completely unacceptable.
How does Congress have, in Article 1, Section 8, they are required to coin money and establish the value thereof.
Right.
How do you get to turn that over to private bankers and then say you're doing your job?
No, it's been a fraud from day one.
And while we're at it, Audit the gold that's not in Fort Knox anymore.
Well, there's going to be an IOU there.
When you open the vault doors, it'll say, IOU, 50,000 tons of gold.
With another note, we'll deliver it in the year 2075. You know, I mean, it's all become such fraud.
It has.
And I just heard interviews from people.
I have to find a way to laugh when the Democrats don't give a damn about the fraud of USAID and they don't care about any of it except Elon Musk can't do this because he wasn't elected.
Every one of those people have unelected people working for them.
Trump can have a volunteer come and help him do anything he damn well pleases.
All the agencies, they're unelected.
Every single one of them are unelected.
Yeah.
No.
So, what about Joe Biden?
Who went to meetings for him?
Hunter?
His wife, Jill?
And Jill Biden wasn't elected.
She wasn't elected.
Hunter Biden wasn't elected.
Well, even Joe wasn't even elected, for that matter, when you get down to it.
I mean, none of them were.
That's true.
Very true.
Yeah.
And, you know, we know Obama's birth certificate was fake.
I mean, come on.
I mean, none of this is a surprise anymore.
It's all just obvious.
We actually had Joe Arpaio come to one of our CSPOA conferences, and he showed us the evidence.
He had his investigator who was part of the posse.
Yeah.
And he was a great investigator.
Oh, gosh, what was his name?
Zulu?
Zolo?
Zulu?
Anyway, great guy.
And he spent a couple of hours showing the sheriffs that wanted to go to that class, that breakout session.
And there's absolutely no question.
The nine layers that somebody went to.
And this is the thing that I've said to Biden.
Sorry, Obama.
What I said to him is, if he had just ignored the claims by Sheriff Arpaio, Remember that, folks.
Sheriff Arpaio investigated the President of the United States for fraud.
And he actually created a fraudulent birth certificate.
Okay?
So, Arpaio then investigated every bit of that.
And it wasn't very well done.
It was real easy to show the step-by-step that they did to create that fraudulent.
A birth certificate.
Yeah.
I've seen the evidence.
No, me too.
I downloaded the PSD file.
Wait, say that again?
It's a Photoshop file.
It's a PSD. It's a multilayered Photoshop file.
You can see all the individual layers.
Like, I had that file.
Yeah, he should have hired somebody that was much more competent than whoever it was that he hired.
Yeah.
But there's no question.
Now he committed a crime.
Before, he's just lying about where or where he wasn't born.
But he still committed a crime, but not a felony as he did when he created that.
If he had just ignored it, it would have all had to have gone away because nobody wanted to investigate it.
True.
Except Joe Arpaio.
So they're still making excuses for Obama on that.
And I'd still like to know how he's become such a huge multimillionaire with five mansions all over the world and country.
This is my next question for you, because a lot of this USAID money appears to be part of a complex money laundering cartel.
I mean, this is classic RICO Act racketeering behavior, right?
It is.
Do you think that a lot of this money is going to end up trailing, you know, leading directly to, let's say, members of Congress who will be forced to resign?
Or governors or other officials who will be forced to resign over this?
Or maybe they'll even be arrested.
I pray that they're all criminally investigated.
Anybody that's had anything to do with this.
I think the Shakespearean saying, we think she protests too loudly.
Like Maxine Waters would be top on the list, Elizabeth Warren, and some of these others there in Washington, D.C. But if we're really going to clean house and we're going to get to the bottom of this, that has to happen.
It really even made me question everything going on as if I haven't all along.
You and I both have.
We've questioned everything going on in Washington, D.C. And what I've said, it's ten times worse than what we know.
And that's exactly what's happening with USAID investigations.
The one thing that really gets to me is...
There's some untraceable payments made to the tune of trillions of dollars.
$4.7 trillion.
I know the one you're talking about.
$4.7 trillion.
And folks, so this is going to take some time, but it's going to take some real digging.
And I hope we get some career detectives that really know how to go after monetary crimes.
And I think that...
Congress, in talking about the investigation on the Biden family, I think they allowed him off too easily.
Because there are obviously bank records there that showed this.
I think they should have gone after him and still should.
And I think that they need to get Hunter Biden in there to testify because he can't claim Fifth Amendment because he can't get in any trouble.
He can't be arrested.
So, he needs to go in there, and this all needs to be divulged and investigated, and the American people have a right to know what has happened to our money and our stewardship and our country.
We own it.
We, the people, we get to demand that this process take place, and we really need to go after it.
And my hat's off to the richest man in the world.
He doesn't need any of this.
He doesn't need the Democrats' BS, but he's doing it.
And what a great human being and great American that he is.
And obviously, he's already told Trump, I didn't vote for you the first time I voted for Biden.
Look, he's being honest, and this man is doing a great job that he doesn't need any of it.
And either does Trump, for that matter.
And so God bless them both, and God love them for what they're doing.
And the sheriffs of this country need to have their back.
I agree with you, and I think most sheriffs do.
But I want to ask you about Trump and Doge.
They are absolutely destroying the pillars of money laundering and fraud of the left.
And we've seen in recent days a new meme circulating on Reddit and other platforms from angry leftists, and they're calling for a 1789 French-style revolution.
Which would be a violent uprising.
I guess they're going to roll out guillotines and try to chop off people's heads or something.
In your assessment, as a former active sheriff and the head of CSPOA, you talk with hundreds of sheriffs every year.
How would that go for the radical leftists?
If they actually tried an armed uprising at this point, what would that even...
What would be the response?
I mean, give us your best take.
I think it would really be the worst thing that could happen.
I am so totally against violence.
Because, you know, people have asked on the other side.
They said, if we're going to beat Biden, we've got to fight.
We've got to fight.
And I said, no, we don't.
Because I said, have you ever looked at what that really looks like?
But all along, with all of the militia fear-mongering and the brainwashing that militias are horrible and, oh, the M-word and all of this, look at what I've told everybody.
I'll tell the left and the right.
What do you think that's going to look like in America, to have another civil war today with the technology that we have?
What would another American revolution look like?
And I don't care which side you're talking to.
But right now, all along with the attacks on the right about being violent, the left is the one.
The left has been the one committing violence all along.
Burning down cities.
The rapes and the pillaging and the crimes committed in Seattle.
And it was called a summer of love by the mayor.
Right.
And Tifa and Black Lives Matter during the Trump Exactly.
And look at what Black Lives Matter even had on their website.
Their goal was to destroy the nuclear family.
And so, folks, the acts of violence in our music, in the rap songs, and by BLM having their parades and saying they want to kill cops, and all of this promotion of violence. and by BLM having their parades and saying they want And Kamala Harris, even when these groups were committing violence, she actually endorsed what they were doing.
But we're seeing some of that again.
We're seeing Democrat congressmen calling for violence, calling for revolutions.
I think on left-wing media recently, a guest there was saying, who's going to take a shot at Trump?
They're not hiding their intention at this point.
They're not.
And I think a letter or somebody made a point to Maxine Waters that you might be getting a knock on your door from Secret Service because of the violent language that she was using.
These people don't care about acts of violence.
They just don't want us to be the first one to do it.
We're not going to commit violence because, again, folks, look at the scenario.
Of violence in America today.
And how would you do?
It would be neighbors turning in neighbors and family turning in family and dads and brothers against brother.
And how you could keep your weaponry and, again, the technology that they have to go after us.
And are they going to care if we're innocent?
They're not.
They don't care now.
Well, my assessment is that the left is just incapable of mounting any kind of an organized uprising.
I mean, they get their gun training from watching Hollywood movies.
They don't even know how guns operate.
They've never cleared a jam.
I mean, it would almost be, what are they going to do, roll a bunch of guillotines into a park with their nose rings and their purple hair?
And claim that they're taking over the country.
It would almost be comedy.
Yeah, because some of it already is.
Like you say, they're so against guns, and so when are they going to ever learn how to use one?
They shoot each other accidentally more than anybody.
When they're marching around with their guns, they don't practice any firearm safety that you and I know.
They shoot each other.
They look down the barrels.
I mean, come on.
What are they going to do?
Hire their bodyguards to go fight for them in the battles?
No, it doesn't make any sense.
And this is what I would plead with anyone, left or right, that we find some ground to come together on.
And right now, I would be sending that message to all these Democrats that are screaming and hollering and crying, and just resisting because it's Republicans.
Why wouldn't some of these people say, you know what?
You're absolutely correct.
We need to investigate the financial crimes happening in Washington, D.C. It makes it look like they have a stake in it, and probably they do.
But if you can't get a Democrat in Washington, D.C. to agree, yes, if Elon Musk and Trump...
We want to help with that.
And we are on board.
And our holy grail issues are not going to change.
That doesn't change any of their holy grail issues.
And so you would think there would be a time and that this would be it.
When we have absolute proof that our tax dollars are going to fund horrible things and crime, and yet they're still pushing, oh, well, you're not doing it right, you know.
If this is a time, I don't think there's any hope at all.
If they can't come together on that, then I don't think there's any hope at all.
And I will tell you, I'm fed up to here with Republican and Democrat partisanship.
I want it to be America-oriented.
From both parties.
And yes, I am proud of what Trump is doing and his administration.
And the possibilities right now have really got me excited.
And every American in the freedom movement especially should be excited.
Me too.
But I'm telling you right now, I will never support violence.
Is there a time we might have to?
I'm willing.
I never shot anybody in 20 years of law enforcement, and I'm grateful to God that I didn't.
And there was probably one time I should have, but I didn't, and it turned out right.
It turned out good.
I actually would have shot this guy, and I had a deputy with me at the time, but his son kept standing next to him.
My deputy and I had good cover, and I told the deputy, I said, if he points that gun at us or at a neighbor...
We're going to have to take him out.
But luckily, he didn't.
And we got the gun away from him.
And he was strung out on meth.
And that was one time I took a gun away from a citizen.
And I told him, as soon as you come and show me that you've been through drug rehab, I will give it back to you.
I never gave it back to him.
With your comment about...
I agree.
We have to have a default stance of nonviolence.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I absolutely also agree that we want America to heal.
We want to bring people together in America.
But with respect, from a realistic perspective, there are a group of people that are bad faith actors that hate what America stands for.
And I think you've alluded to this, and they will never come around to freedoms, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
They will never come around to that.
And they are the enemies of this republic.
And they have been running a looting operation, a criminal fraud looting operation that loots the Treasury and sends money to themselves so they can rig elections and pay off judges and pay off whoever, even law enforcement.
And that's their power base.
That's why Maxine Waters is screaming so loud because she's going to be found.
All the records are right.
They're going to be found, right?
So what do you do with...
I guess you just have to prosecute all those people where the evidence leads, correct?
I totally agree with that.
And that's why I say sheriffs need to be involved in this because there's not enough investigators in Washington, D.C. to do them all.
And some of these same criminals are in every state.
And so it's bad here in Arizona.
The cartels have a huge influence financially in Arizona.
I attended some seminars about seven or eight years ago with professors from colleges in Mexico, and there was about 12, 13 of them at the seminars, and I speak pretty good Spanish.
You sound like you speak Spanish.
I was pretty good in Espanol when I lived in South America.
I was quite proficient, yeah.
Yeah, your accent's pretty good.
Your pronunciation's good.
But I speak really good Spanish.
I'm not as fluent as a Mexican, but I'm pretty good.
And I've taught Spanish in high school before.
But this is my point on all of this.
We have to be prepared and we have to be ready.
And I believe that we can get these investigations going.
And those 12 professors, I asked them a very important question.
That really deals with the present president of Mexico and all of them before.
I said, how much of the government of Mexico and other Latin American countries, but all of these professors were from huge universities in Mexico?
I said, how much of your government, the percentage of your government is run by the cartels, controlled and run by the cartels?
All of them answered at the same time in unison and said, 100%.
100%.
100%.
Yeah, sure.
So look at what we're battling.
And so that influence now has infiltrated America, and we've got to have sheriffs working and cooperating with the federal government and getting these investigations done and bringing people to justice.
Because that's the only way, I believe.
That we're going to avoid the violence that you and I have been discussing.
Well, we certainly have some interesting times ahead, and I really want to thank you for all that you're doing and helping to bring, I think, a sense of sanity and peace wherever it's possible, although there's clearly conflict in the near future of our nation just pushing back against the abuses that have happened to us.
I'd like to give you an opportunity to...
Finish up here with whatever you want to share.
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Oh, I saw that.
Yeah.
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Love it.
That surprises me with Trump in office.
That it's not actually going the other way.
But whatever they're doing.
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All right.
Well said.
Thank you and God bless you, Sheriff Richard Mack.
It's always a pleasure to have you on and thank you for all that you do for America.
Let's do it again.
We shall.
We shall indeed.
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