Timothy Alberino tells Mike Adams that mysterious DRONES are NOT FAA-approved government research pr
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighttown.com.
We are joined today by author, researcher, and dare I say adventurer, Timothy Albarino joins us today.
We've got a lot to talk about, including the strange orbs and maybe the issue of contact or disclosure and so much more and things coming up this year.
Welcome, Mr. Albarino, to the show today.
It's great to have you back.
Thanks so much for having me back, Mike.
It's always a pleasure.
All right, so it's been a while since we've spoken.
A lot has happened since then, and I find it really odd.
This is the leading question here.
I find it really odd that here we are.
We just had the Trump inauguration, you know, the new Trump administration, and suddenly everybody's forgotten about these mysterious orbs.
They were originally called drones.
They're flying over U.S. military bases along mostly in the East Coast areas, but New Jersey, et cetera.
Nobody ever concluded what they were.
And that's disturbing because the government said, well, they're not a threat to us.
Well, how do you know?
So, Tim, give us your take on what these orbs really are.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
This morning I was watching a meeting that Trump had conducted, I think six days ago, with all of the governors, with a lot of the governors, including my governor, Gianforte from Montana.
The governor from Wyoming, governors from various parts of the United States are sitting around this table with Trump.
And Trump is just sitting there talking openly about this drone situation, how frustrated he is, how angry he is, that he thinks that the government knows exactly what's going on and they just refuse to tell the American people.
And all of the governors sitting around the table are chiming in, talking about how this phenomenon continues to occur.
There's a specific case I know of from Wyoming.
I received a phone call the other day from a couple of state senators, Wyoming state congressmen, and they told me an incident that had happened recently in Wyoming where one of their colleagues saw one of these drones.
And this was just probably a week ago or so.
They saw one of these drones.
She called it a mothership, and it was about 5,000 feet in the air, and it deployed a bunch of little drones out of it.
And those little drones came down and they were hovering over, like scanning the coal fire plant.
And this freaked her out because she witnessed this.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but early in this drone phenomenon, a U.S. congressman said that the drones came from an Iranian mothership that was parked offshore.
Yeah, that's right.
That's bizarre.
That is bizarre.
I mean, this is in Wyoming.
Yeah, so that's far from the East Coast.
She watched as these little drones were conducting like surveillance or something or scanning over the coal-fired plant and then they went back up into the mothership.
And the mothership she described as like a large, like the size of an SUV, like this common description that we hear.
And this really freaked her out.
She was a congresswoman there because this coal-fired plant provides heat.
For so much of Wyoming, and if someone were to hit that coal-fired plant, let's say this was a foreign actor, then Wyoming, a lot of the residents of Wyoming freeze to death.
I mean, it's critical infrastructure.
And they went to the governor in Wyoming, and the last thing I heard, they were trying to pass legislation to enable...
Their armed forces to shoot these things down because they viewed them as a threat.
So going back to this meeting with Trump, the governor of Wyoming chimed in and said, yeah, we're having these drones still harassing and hovering around our critical infrastructure.
So the reality is that whatever this phenomenon is and was, that these objects, whatever they are, Have been hovering over, scanning, surveilling critical infrastructure.
They're in restricted airspace over our military bases.
They're hovering over airports.
The Wright-Patterson Air Force Base had to close their airspace for a period of time because they couldn't control their airspace because these drones are flying around.
And it's absolutely incredible that the government, that the Pentagon has not explained to the American people what's going on.
And there's only two explanations either.
A, they have no idea what's going on, and so they're not going to tell us, we don't know.
Or B, they know exactly what's going on, and they have no response.
So the analysis by many others, Really falls into three categories of what these...
I'm not even going to call them drones.
I'm going to call them orbs because my understanding is that the actual quadcopter drones are U.S. military drones trying to track the orbs.
And the orbs, maybe they have some other propulsion system that we don't yet know about.
Who knows?
But the three categories are either, one, they are U.S. deep state secret weapons programs.
And they are trying to carry out some kind of a coup against the government, perhaps.
Two, they're of foreign origin.
China is typically mentioned as the likely candidate.
Or three, they're of extraterrestrial origin.
And for some reason, they're keeping an eye on Earth using orbs.
So out of those three, which one makes the most sense to you?
I would say it's a combination of all three.
In fact, I was talking to Lou Elizondo the other day, and most people know who Lou Elizondo is, one of the UFO whistleblowers.
And I asked Lou that question.
I said, Lou, there's really only three things in my mind that could offer an explanation for this phenomenon.
Either A, it's us, whatever that means.
It's us.
It's our technology.
B, it's a foreign actor.
Or C, it's legitimate UFO activity.
And he said, it's all three.
And he's got some information that I haven't been privy to, but I tend to agree.
I think we've got a combination of all three of those things going on right now in our airspace.
And one thing about China, I will say, a lot of people say, well, it can't be a foreign actor.
I'm not so sure some of this can't be a foreign actor.
Unbeknownst to most of the American public, China has been accelerating two things.
China's been accelerating in two things, and one of those things is artificial intelligence.
Absolutely.
And the other thing, the second thing is in their drone capabilities.
China has been accelerating their drone capabilities, and they actually have been building, and this comes right off of the Navy's own website.
We have pictures of Chinese docks where they're building drone craft carriers, so like aircraft carriers for drones.
They're building a bunch of these things.
They've already deployed one of them into the Pacific Ocean, and we know that they deploy drones from submarines.
And there was all this talk in the beginning that, well, we don't have over-the-horizon capabilities yet.
We don't have over-the-horizon capabilities.
In other words, we don't have the capability to fly a drone.
That's beyond the, what do you call it?
The line of sight.
Thank you.
That's beyond our line of sight.
That's bullcrap.
Of course we do.
We have satellites that can communicate with the drones.
Come on.
We've had those drones flying over the Middle East for 20 years.
Exactly.
Yeah, so I don't know why everyone was out there saying, we don't have these capabilities.
Of course we have these capabilities, and China has these capabilities.
So I think some of what we're seeing is, yes, it is extremely advanced drone technology that's been developed by China.
Some of it, not all of it, but some of it.
And it makes sense to me, Mike, because you have this, you have, what did we see a couple years ago?
China floated their spy balloons across the continental United States, and we did nothing.
The Biden regime did nothing.
We let them collect all that data, and then we finally shot them down when they were over the Atlantic Ocean.
But all the data had already been relayed to China through the satellites, right?
And that seems to be like a preemptive operation that was preparing for what we saw, what we've been seeing in the last couple of months with the drones.
And then at the same time, you got all this drone activity happening.
In the United States, especially on the East Coast, you have Xi Jinping come out on New Year's Day.
And what did he say?
He said, Taiwan belongs to China on New Year's Day.
So he's basically saying, we're taking Taiwan.
We're taking Taiwan in 2025. So imagine the scenario.
If, in fact, some of this technology is Chinese and it's hovering over our...
In our secure airspace, over sensitive infrastructure, the Capitol building in Washington, D.C., Trump's properties, by the way.
Why are aliens hovering over Trump's properties?
That seems very human to me.
And then here's Xi Jinping saying, yeah, we're going to take Taiwan.
It's almost like a show of force, and there's nothing you can do about it.
We don't know what these drones, if they're drones, whatever these are.
Do they have payloads?
Do they have nuclear payloads?
Are they aerosolizing fentanyl?
Or do they have that capability?
Are they loaded with anthrax?
We have no idea.
Or EMP weapons.
Let me ask you this.
So China, and you know I'm deeply involved in AI research and building an AI model called ENOC. I've shared that with you before.
And just yesterday I was playing around with China's new open source reasoning model called DeepSeek R1, which you can actually run it on a local workstation if you've got a pretty beefy setup, which I do at home.
And the reasoning model, it's incredible.
They released it open source to the world, which means China is actually democratizing AI.
This model competes with open AI, which is a closed model, but you can get this and run it for free from China, the company called DeepSeek.
This model is extraordinary.
I was having it do physics and math.
I was having it calculate the energy extraction required to do phase changes of water and all kinds of geometry and things.
And it was just rocking through it like a PhD mathematics expert.
It was stunning.
It was doing this on my computer, not in the cloud, not in a data center.
I was asking it last night to design the best extraction solvent combination for extracting.
Rosmarinic acid from rosemary herbs.
And it knew the polarity of rosmarinic acid.
It knew the phenolic compounds.
It knew all the properties of all the extracts.
And it came up with a formula of alcohol, water, and glycerin.
I was like, damn.
This thing's amazing.
So my question to you, Tim, is clearly, clearly China is using AI, because you'd be crazy not to, but using AI to...
I mean, if you had unlimited mathematics genius-level compute, which China now has, wouldn't you use it to design the most incredible stuff?
Absolutely.
Go ahead.
And not only that, you would incorporate the AI into the technology.
In other words, what we're looking at is autonomous, AI-driven...
Aerial technology, let's call it drones.
So that's why these things are so hard to track.
I think we are seeing AI deployed in these drones, and they are autonomous.
Well, I just mean on the R&D side, like coming up with materials or propulsion systems, right?
Yes.
I mean, imagine it's like it's...
I mean, it's like getting, you know, 10,000 Einsteins in a room.
Exactly.
Having them compute on the same problem all at the same time.
Process the same problem all at the same time.
Yes.
And you can scale it.
10,000 times the speed of the human brain or probably more than that.
Totally, totally.
That's what's happening right now.
And think about these drones.
It was widely reported they have some kind of cloaking technology.
Yeah.
They would vanish when you shine a light on them.
And cloaking technology.
So somebody's figured out how to bend light or whatever.
Who knows?
But as long as it is congruent with the laws of physics, then there's no reason why these exotic technologies can't be developed.
And even in the U.S., the OpenAI company has leaked the fact that its latest version of OpenAI was partially written by the previous version of OpenAI.
So the AI engineers are now improving the AI. This quickly becomes obviously an accelerating feedback loop until we get to superintelligence.
And I think at the moment, I think China's going to win that race, I think, at the moment.
This is precisely why Trump is initiating the AI Stargate project, because he knows, and I think he's alarmed, how much further ahead China is than we are in AI right now.
I agree.
They're trying to play catch-up right now.
But Stargate is a mistake, in my opinion, because it puts the power in just three companies.
Yep.
Three untrustworthy, well, two untrustworthy companies.
Oracle, with Larry Ellison, Mr. mRNA nanobot jab.
That's right.
And then OpenAI, run by Sam Altman, who is a very nefarious, untrustworthy character.
And, you know, Larry Ellison's the new Bill Gates, I said earlier.
Globalist wants to jab you with nanobots or whatever.
They need to open-source this, put it out to the community.
That's how you build strong AI, which is what China is doing.
That's right.
That's right.
Let me throw a curveball at you here with this drone situation.
Sure.
I don't know.
Did you watch the News Nation exclusive report with journalist Ross Colhart that was published on Sunday?
I did.
And it featured the testimony.
The egg footage on the end of the tether?
Yeah, the egg footage and the new whistleblower.
Jacob Barber.
Well, there's something really interesting that's said in that video, and this is something that Lou Elizondo told me previous to the publication of that video.
In the report, it's revealed that Jacob Barber created his own company called Skywatcher, and what they do is they try to collect data on UFOs.
And they incorporate what's called psionics or psionic operators, psionic assets.
They deploy them in the field.
And psionic, these psionic operators, what they do is they, through telepathy, they connect with alien craft and they can even allegedly take control of the craft.
Because it's been my opinion for a long time that this exotic alien technology is controlled telepathically.
It's not like buttons and switches inside of there.
It's a mind-machine interface, and so that explains some of the erratic maneuvers of UFOs.
They're interfacing with the technology with their minds, and now we have these psionic teams that we're deploying to try and gather information and even induce some of these craft to land.
That was what was reported in the News Nation video.
So wait a minute, so it's kind of like remote viewing, except you can take control.
That's right, precisely.
And there's something that they say in the report that Jacob Barber says in the report with Ross Coldhart.
He said that the government contracted them.
The federal government contracted his company, Skywatcher, to investigate the drone situation with psionics.
Oh, wow.
So what does that tell you?
That's a little hint that there's more to this than just a foreign adversary or our own technology.
It's like, we don't know what this is.
We can't catch them.
So this team is deployed with psionic assets to try and figure out what's going on with the drones.
And I found that to be very, very interesting.
Again, that indicates that we are dealing with something here that's beyond...
Well, clearly that's the case.
But let me ask you then about motive.
You said you think it's a combination of these three possible factions that might be involved in different ways.
But what would the motives be?
Because so far they haven't dropped nukes or detonated EMP or, as far as we know, they haven't dropped fentanyl on cities.
What are they doing other than just gathering data at the moment?
I mean, at this point, my guess is that the following scenario has played out and is playing out to some extent.
I think that the Chinese have deployed an operation to surveil the things I mentioned, the critical infrastructure, Trump's properties.
Not just surveil, but it's a show of threat to hover above these things, to demonstrate that we can hit you when we want, and there's nothing you can do about it.
At the same time, in response to this, the United States has deployed.
We've deployed our own drone fleet as well to monitor this and maybe to try and take action, although I think there's a reason why we haven't taken action.
And into this scenario, you can add another faction that's monitoring this activity, right?
Especially if there's nuclear technology involved.
Because one thing we know about these drones is they're not using...
Conventional propulsion systems.
Well, they are in some cases for sure.
So let me say that.
But they're not using conventional battery systems.
Power.
They're not being powered by lithium-ion batteries.
Right.
Because they're able to hover for much longer than any commercial drone technology.
That's right.
So is there something nuclear?
Are they making use of like maybe mini nuclear reactors or something?
I don't know.
But this would certainly draw the attention of...
You know, UAP, UFOs.
So I think that we have all three things in play.
I think the Chinese initiated an operation.
There was a response from both the United States government and a non-human UAP response.
And it's like this mix of all three of these things going on.
We know that the United States, we have our own drones deployed.
That's for sure, because pictures of them have been taken during the day.
Specifically, the...
I think it's called the PX4 or the P4X. I can't remember the name of the designation of the drone, but it's a Navy drone.
It has the capability to be both fixed wing and quadcopter.
Oh, right.
And it can change that configuration mid-flight, right?
So it can do vertical takeoff, yeah.
Right.
And we know those are deployed.
We know those were out there.
They were seen during the day.
So that's so, I mean, very, very, very complex situation unfolding.
Okay, then let...
Let's take this to the next step.
Do you believe, with Trump in the White House now, he says he's going to release the files on the assassinations of JFK and of RFK Sr. and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And he wants to get to the bottom of the J-6 pipe bomber, which is...
Probably leads back to the FBI. That's kind of an obvious one.
But he wants to expose the Epstein files and so much more.
Is Trump going to also, in your view, disclose things about contact and UFOs?
I think he is.
I really do.
And again, I'm going to reference again this meeting that he had with these governors.
The reason why I think he might very well do that is because he said with these governors, I'm gonna, he said, and he, I don't think he's done this yet, but he said, when I get in the Oval Office, like, day one, I'm gonna tell you guys what's happening with these drones.
I'm gonna tell the American people.
I'm not gonna take, you know, sir, there's gonna be, this is national security.
He said, I'm gonna tell the American people.
So if that's his attitude as it pertains to UFOs as well, I think, you know, Trump doesn't have anything to lose at this point.
He doesn't have to run for office again.
Right.
This is legacy for him.
And I think Trump thinking about, What is a bigger legacy than telling the American people the truth about UFOs?
I mean, that will resonate forever.
So I think it's going to be very appealing to him.
And Trump himself, he's not really that interested in UFOs.
He believes, he thinks it's interesting because he's heard the testimony of our Air Force guys and Navy guys.
But he's not that interested in the topic.
But I do believe that there are some people around him.
Who are very interested and who are going to press him to make some sort of official announcement on UFOs.
I don't expect him to do it this year because that would be a very interesting way to start the administration in the first year.
And so I think they would view that as a distraction.
So I would expect that to come if it happens at all in the last year of Trump's administration.
I don't think that such an announcement would be that big of a deal anymore.
It's like, I mean, we just lived through bioweapons, assaults using nanotechnology, exotic mRNA, gene-altering injections, and attempted globalist depopulation.
And if Trump on top of that said, and we're not alone, everybody would be like, yeah, we already knew that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, whatever.
Right.
So, like, tell me, you know, when will gas prices get cheaper, you know?
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
Well, you know, it's not so much about the American people.
I don't think, I think it used to be, the concern used to be how will the American public respond.
But that was before all of the conditioning that we've gone through over the decades in movies and TV shows and all of this, right?
We've been conditioned.
This isn't the same situation it was in the 1950s or 1960s.
Today, I think the concern, the question isn't how will the American people react, it's how will the intelligence community react.
It's how will the deep state react.
I see.
That's, I think, the real question because so far their protocol has been to deny, deny, deny, obfuscate and...
You know, let's acknowledge.
The acknowledgement that's come from the Pentagon is, yeah, there's weird stuff in the sky that we can't explain, but they absolutely deny crash retrievals and alien bodies.
True.
And so if that, if crash retrievals, alien bodies things comes to light, well, you know what the next question is going to be.
Well, you better show us this technology.
You better show us these bodies.
We want to see them.
Well, and then also...
Exo-geopolitics, right?
So have we been talking to other civilizations?
Have deals been made?
Like, wait a second.
Shouldn't we all be in the loop on this?
And also, a very specific question for you, Timothy, which is, I believe that in the U.S., a lot of technology was reverse-engineered from crashed UFOs, starting from 1947 and beyond.
But UFOs also crash elsewhere in the world.
Why shouldn't we also believe that China has been reverse-engineering exotic alien technology?
Because they have a much larger landmass than the United States.
And what about Russia?
I mean, wouldn't there be crash UFOs in Russia over all these years as well?
I think China and Russia each have, respectively, their own crash retrieval, their own legacy crash retrieval programs.
Certainly.
Absolutely that's the case.
I think in the old days, the United States...
Was going around the world retrieving these craft and probably had deals with these nations, but not today.
The communist Chinese are never going to turn over exotic technology that crashes in their backyard to the United States.
That's true.
Never.
Not going to happen.
No, they're just going to use it, reverse engineer it.
Exactly.
Now, we probably have a deal with the UK. The UK probably does allow us to come and take whatever...
Yeah, but aliens don't crash in the UK. They run the parliament.
Yeah, apparently.
Apparently they do.
Yeah.
They run the country.
They don't need to crash there.
Yeah.
It's a really good point, though, because, you know, how successful have the Chinese been in reverse engineering exotic alien technology?
And I use the word alien very purposely because, you know, we don't know exactly where these entities come from.
We know that they are biological because they crash and die.
We don't know exactly where they come from, but they are alien to the human species.
They're not human beings, so I use the word intentionally.
But how much success have we had in reverse engineering this technology?
Now, I think we've had success, but it's been limited.
And the reason why I think it's been limited for us, for the Chinese, for the Russians, is because much of the reactor technology and other components of the craft rely on exotic matter.
Exotic materials that are not present on planet Earth, isotopes and so forth.
Antimatter, things like that.
Like element 115. Right, exactly.
And we only have, you know, in regard to element 115, we only have as much as we've been able to recover from the crash retrievals.
We can't go harvest anymore.
But we can take some of the alloys and some of the other components that we've been able to figure out and incorporate them into our own vehicles.
And so we now have hybridized vehicles.
That use both conventional and unconventional technology and that resemble UFOs.
That makes sense.
I think that's accurate, yeah.
And I also wonder about the so-called invention of the transistor, Bell Labs, because I think that that was reverse-engineered alien tech because there's no...
I mean, the transistor is a quantum device, and there's no lineage of...
How it got developed, it just suddenly popped into existence, right?
But from that then, we had microchips and eventually GPUs and then AI, but also global surveillance and tracking systems and so on.
So that one invention has led to this alternate reality that we're living in now, which is highly digitized.
And there's some good and there's some bad in it, but some people might say, well, AI, modern AI technology seems...
It's taking crazy leaps forward, but at least with that, we can trace back the science papers and the scientists and the transformers and everything.
It does seem miraculous, but I'm not sure that that's alien.
But the transistor, maybe it is.
What are your thoughts?
Oh, I agree.
I think, see, what these private defense contracting aerospace companies have done is they...
The purview of crash retrievals and the reverse engineering of this technology is with the defense contractors.
And the government does this purposely.
The military-industrial complex, it allows the aerospace companies to develop, to reverse engineer.
They're involved in the crash retrievals to house the technology.
And a lot of this is done for plausible deniability.
You can't FOIA these companies.
And who knows what they've been able to develop from this technology?
And then they can take these technologies and sell them.
Sort of leak them into the commercial market.
And who knows what they've leaked into the commercial market?
Who knows what they've sold?
What kind of technologies have arisen from exotic tech that we've been able to back engineer from crash retrievals?
And I think it's absurd.
To suggest that none of the technology we have today originated with that exotic non-human technology that's been in the hands of these aerospace companies.
Yeah, I mean, there is a...
Go ahead.
Well, let me push back on both of us for a second here.
If the U.S. has exotic weaponry, why is NATO getting defeated by Russia in Ukraine, right?
So the U.S. doesn't have hypersonic cruise missiles that work?
The U.S. doesn't have the Oreshnik missile system that Russia just developed, which is an extraordinary leap in weaponry.
Non-nuclear, kinetic weaponry comes out of space at incredible velocity, like meteors, and strikes ground targets and obliterates them.
Just obliterates them, right?
They demonstrated that weapon system.
We don't have that.
We don't have...
I think a lot of people assume that the State Department and the Department of Defense, that if we get into trouble...
You know, we get into war, then they will automatically have access to all this exotic tech that we've been developing.
That's not the case.
They don't even know about it.
I'm telling you, there's hardly anybody at the Department of Defense or in the Pentagon who has access to these special access programs.
They don't know what's there.
They don't know what's developed.
Very little of that stuff, I think, is actually being deployed for defense purposes for the United States.
I think there's what my colleague Richard Dolan describes as a breakaway civilization effect going on where these people have developed this technology and it's being used, it's being deployed, but not necessarily in the interest of the United States.
It's almost like a faction unto itself.
Well, that's one of the scenarios I mentioned earlier, that this is like a deep state faction running some of these drones.
That's right.
That's very possible.
I think that is very, very possible.
I don't know.
I'm not sure how much success we've had in creating hybridized vehicles, how much success we've had in the reverse engineering of exotic alien technology.
We've had some success, but I think it's been limited, so I don't really know what we would have to deploy.
And maybe we have been deploying some stuff covertly behind the scenes that people just aren't aware of.
Who knows?
So in the real world where...
I shouldn't use that term.
This is all in the real world, but I mean in the conventional world of manufacturing.
China is clearly leading the race towards humanoid robots, dog robots, autonomous ground-based systems that walk around, run around, whatever, and fly around.
And China's going to be mass-producing robots way beyond anything that the U.S. can produce.
And it's clear that these robots are going to be AI. They'll have AI brains.
They have exotic behavior learning algorithms.
So out of the gate, like off the factory floor, they will be super soldiers.
And that's coming in the next two to three years.
How is that going to change?
Think about AI drones.
We've talked some, but the AI soldiers, the AI robotic dogs that are not your best friend.
How's this going to change the future?
Well, you know, some years ago when there was a reporter talking to, or a group of reporters who were interviewing Vladimir Putin, and they were asking him how concerned he was about the nuclear threat, nuclear proliferation and the threat of thermonuclear war.
And do you remember what his response was?
His response was, well, I actually am more concerned.
About the super soldier programs that are being developed right now.
That the nations, the first world nations like China, like Russia, like United States, like United Kingdom, are all developing super soldiers.
And those super soldiers, these are human beings who are cybernetically and genetically enhanced.
And I would say also with artificial intelligence through brain-computer interfaces.
So the battlefields of the future, Are going to be populated by what you might describe as transhumans and robots.
That's the battlefield of the future.
It's transhumans and robots.
It's super soldiers and robots that are fitted with artificial intelligence.
And it's not like this is a future 100 years from now.
This is a future of the next decade.
We are rushing towards a post-human paradigm.
And all of these technologies, including robotics, including artificial intelligence, including nanotechnology, the genetic...
Modification technologies, they're all converging.
That's why technologists call this era that we live in the hybrid age, because all of these technologies that were developing in their independent streams are now, there's a confluence.
They're coming together and creating this rushing river, and these technologies are going to enable the human species to fundamentally redesign our own biology, among other things.
But yeah, I mean the...
The super soldier programs, the artificial intelligence, the robotics, all of this is being used, is being developed for deployment on the battlefields of the future, unquestionably.
You're not kidding.
So here's a story from The Intercept here.
Well, this is just the headline of it.
Documents reveal advanced AI tools Google is selling to Israel.
This is being covered.
There's also new news that just broke.
This story is from 2023, but there's new news that just came out that talks about how Google is profiting from the weaponization of AI so that Israel can target doctors, civilians, women, teens, and kill them.
Google is one of the most evil corporations in the world, in my opinion.
It's clearly very powerful, and it has no qualms whatsoever about weaponizing AI in order to commit genocide.
So what does that tell you about where this is going, Timothy?
That's very frightening.
I mean, we're going to be able to, and we already are to some extent, we saw this a few years ago, but we're going to be able to design using artificial intelligence, because artificial intelligence, as you said, accelerates everything.
It's going to accelerate every industry that incorporates it.
It's just injecting an almost unimaginable acceleration and brain power into whatever you're talking about.
And so in regard to like bioweapons, my God, yeah, it will be able to, with the help of AI, we will be able to engineer biological weapons that are so precise that they can just target certain Genetic signatures and probably do so in a way that's almost completely undetectable.
And you can literally conduct, you know, genocide on like a, you know, like, it's like using a biological weapon in like as a sniper shot instead of just blanketing, you know, releasing some kind of a virus that has unintended consequences.
Absolutely, that's one of the most frightening things about this.
Yeah, that's really interesting because the AI developers say they put guardrails on their system to stop queries about bioweapons, but very capable hackers have been able to jailbreak every AI system.
Everything.
Now, shifting gears here, at albarinoevents.com, you've got an event coming up in 2025 called NEFCON. This is...
I guess you're going to be streaming this, plus there's in-person tickets.
Tell the audience what this is.
From the 27th through 28th of June this year, I will be hosting a conference here in my hometown of Bozeman, Montana.
And it's going to be dealing with the kind of topics we're talking about here.
And I'm really excited about this because my friend Gary Haven is joining me.
My and your friend Gary Haven is joining me in Bozeman for this conference.
David Polites.
I think some of your audience is probably aware of the missing 411 project, David Polites.
So we're going to be talking about all kinds of stuff related to that and Bigfoot.
And then also, Mike Adams is coming.
You're joining us for this conference.
And so I'm really excited about this.
And, you know, I strategically picked Bozeman, Montana, because in late June, it is absolutely gorgeous here.
This is the gateway to Yellowstone.
So it's a great place to come at the beginning of summer for this amazing conference in the Rocky Mountains and then go, you know, this is the fly fishing capital of the continental United States.
So it's an awesome place to be.
It's going to be an amazing event where we're going to be discussing all kinds of topics related to the things we're talking about today.
You can get tickets at albrinoevents.com, June 27th through the 28th of June 2025. Very cool.
And I'm going to be doing an AI demonstration and a lecture about AI that will be absolutely mind-blowing.
You can count on it.
I can't wait.
I'm bringing a laptop that's got a high-powered GPU in the laptop.
I just need to plug it into something that can display.
I'm sure you'll have that available.
But also, is our mutual friend, I'm not going to say his name, you know, we know other people, archaeologists, geologists, and so on.
Is there anyone else coming that you can say?
There are a couple of other people who I am engaging with behind the scenes right now.
The ones I mentioned are the ones that are confirmed.
Again, myself, Gary Haven, you, and David Polites.
But yeah, there are a couple of other people that I'm thinking about and talking with behind the scenes.
Okay.
Well, it sounds like it's going to be a really incredible event.
And I thank you for the invite.
You know, I get invited to speak every week somewhere.
And my answer is always no, no, no, no.
I'm busy.
I'm here.
I'm doing stuff.
But this is going to be a special event.
I'm very happy to participate and contribute.
And I think also that...
This is the turning point for humanity.
Do you feel this too, Timothy?
Like 2025, everything changes from here forward.
Not just because of AI or disclosure or whatever, but there's also something sort of cosmically and spiritually happening.
Do you get a sense of that?
I totally agree.
We have turned the corner on the things that we've been talking about.
UFO, alien disclosure, we've turned the corner.
I mean, it's inevitable at this point.
It's racing forward.
Artificial intelligence, we've turned the corner.
I mean, you can't put that genie back in the box.
Don't forget, Mike, we, in the next decade or so, we are going to land a manned mission on the surface of Mars.
And I maintain that when we do that, and obviously this is through Elon Musk and SpaceX.
Allegedly, we're going to.
Well, I mean, Trump is going to put a lot of, I mean, basically, SpaceX is replacing NASA. Because NASA is just an outmoded, bureaucratic waste of time and money.
It's a dog and pony show.
And I maintain that when we put a man on the surface of Mars, we are going to make a discovery that is going to be profound.
Ancient civilizations on Mars?
Yes, precisely that.
Yep, I agree with you.
We are going to discover that there was an ancient civilization, Mars...
Absolutely, Mars was inhabited.
And there are monuments on Mars, I think.
Yes, Cydonia.
Exactly.
And yes, they've eroded over however many years it's been, a long time probably.
But we need to ask questions like, what happened to Mars' atmosphere?
Was there a giant war in space?
Was Mars partially destroyed?
Was there another planet?
Was there a moon of Mars that was destroyed?
Right?
A lot of questions to ask.
Yes, definitely.
And you know, the ancients were obsessed with Mars.
And they believed that the gods who leapt to the Earth, who descended to the Earth in the antediluvian world, that they came from Mars.
Specifically, Cydonia.
And they knew things about the planet Mars that they should not have known, the ancients.
Well, and I think we've been lied to by NASA this entire time because I've covered this.
The 1976 Viking lander mission confirmed proof of microbial life on Mars, active.
And NASA covered it up and buried that experiment.
And the name of that scientist who designed that experiment, I can't even remember his name now.
It should have been alongside Einstein.
Exactly.
Or Neil Armstrong or whoever, right?
But they buried that experiment.
They didn't want people to know there's life on Mars today.
Microbial life.
At the minimum, microbial life exists on Mars today.
You agree with that?
Absolutely, I agree with that.
And we all know that NASA's in the business of airbrushing everything out and covering everything up.
I mean, NASA's own astronauts, I would maintain that all of them, but certainly a good...
A good handful of them have seen UFOs in outer space.
True.
They've seen them.
But only if you talk about it.
Yeah, they come out.
I mean, so if you see a UFO, if you're like, we're sitting on my patio here and we're looking out in the sky and we see some light in the sky, maybe it's making some erratic movements.
You know, we say, oh, that looks like a UFO. But, you know, it could be anything, right?
But if you're out in outer space...
And you see an object flying around, moving erratically, there's only one thing that it can be.
Especially if you're an astronaut.
You're a trained observer, right?
There's only one thing that that can be.
That's an intelligence, right?
And it's not you.
It's not you and your guys because you're the only ones in space.
There's only a handful of people in space at a time.
So when these guys say they saw UFOs in outer space, that means it's a non-human intelligence.
Yeah, clearly.
And NASA has these files.
They know this.
Yeah, NASA stands for never a straight answer, of course.
And here's something really interesting in all of this.
I was asking the Chinese-created DeepSeq AI engine how the U.S. can scale up its AI research and actually compete globally in the AI race.
And it told me, this is the Chinese engine.
It told me that the U.S. should explore cold fusion as a scalable energy technology.
Wow, that's interesting.
I didn't even ask it about cold fusion.
I didn't ask it about energy.
Well, I did use the word energy for data centers, right?
But I was thinking conventional.
It said cold fusion.
Now, when the AI systems start to talk about the common sense stuff that you and I know, because cold fusion has been around since 1989, But it's been suppressed.
I mean, I think that decentralized AI could really help overcome a lot of suppression of technology.
Decentralized AI might end up revealing a lot of the secrets that the government has tried to keep under wraps for a long time.
And so there's positives and negatives with AI. It's all about how you use it.
Wait a second, Timothy.
I'm sorry to jump in, but our AI model, Enoch, I believe it is trained on the most extensive curated set of UFO knowledge in the world because we were given thousands of documents and declassified documents by the Arlington Institute.
He gave it to me right here in the studio on a thumb drive.
I used that thumb drive and we trained the model on that content.
And some of it goes back to the 1950s.
A lot of it's declassified.
Of course, we did OCR, converted it to text.
We normalized the text and everything.
When you query our model, you'll have access to extensive UFO research that just hasn't been aggregated anywhere.
That's amazing.
That's really, really cool.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see the kind of answers that you get, you know, certain queries.
I'm curious too.
Yeah, I wonder.
But, I mean, I've trained it on, you know, a lot of things, but UFOs and declassified documents and also...
It knows the whole history of the CIA and MKUltra and Operation Paperclip and Operation Northwoods and all that stuff, obviously.
But that stuff is not as fringe as it used to be.
You hear people talking about MKUltra every day now.
But 10 years ago, it was like, oh, MKUltra!
I remember those days.
Yeah.
It wasn't that long ago.
But, for example, Jim Mars and his material.
Documenting operation, paperclip, etc.
Anyway, I don't mean to get carried away on what's in the model, but back to you, Timothy.
In the few minutes we have left here, what do you want to wrap up and leave our audience with?
Well, I just want to stress the point that you made earlier, that we have reached a turning point.
As it pertains especially to AI and to...
UFO disclosure, you can't put these genies back in the lamp.
You can't put Jack back into the box.
He's out.
And this stuff is just going to continue to accelerate.
The days of being able to, for example, just deny that UFOs are real and just write it off as a figment of American pop culture or something, those days are over.
That doesn't work anymore.
Clearly.
So we've arrived to a very, very interesting point in time.
And it's fascinating to me that you have what you might describe as the miraculous ascendancy of Donald Trump when they tried to destroy him and put a bullet in his head a couple of times.
And so you have Donald Trump as the President of the United States sitting at the center.
Of this situation now that's swirling in regard to disclosure, in regard to development of artificial intelligence, it almost seems providential on one hand.
I know everybody thinks everything is evil and malevolent all the time and demonic, but we need to remember that God is in control of everything ultimately.
And yes, this is all heading towards ultimately a beast system and all of that and the rise of the Antichrist.
But it's not, you know, necessarily just a straight line to the worst case scenarios.
There's some give and take.
And there's, you know, we may see for a brief period of time or for an extended period of time, we may see a period of time where we reach a level of, you know, what Trump has been saying, the golden age.
And we see great prosperity from some of this stuff.
We have a choice in this.
God gave us the gift of consciousness and free will, which means that while God may see all the possible futures that we could choose from, he doesn't know which ones we are actually going to materialize or manifest.
So that's up to us, right?
So like what I'm doing with AI, it's about decentralization and knowledge.
What Google's doing with AI is about weaponization and genocide.
Like these are the forces that are going to...
Be at odds with each other, and we, the people, get to decide what future we create together.
Yeah, and disclosure of the alien presence is about truth.
I mean, and it's about exposing the lies, revealing the truth, whatever that truth may be.
And that's always positive, always.
Always have a positive effect.
And, I mean, ultimately, I know that this entire thing ends at Armageddon, which is a kinetic war.
With the beast and the dragon and their forces against Christ returning to the earth.
I know that that's the end game, that that's coming in the future.
But, so I think, you know, there's both, for me personally, there's trepidation about some of this stuff, and then there's also excitement, because I'm curious to see where all this leads.
And we have, but like you said, we have turned a corner, and it's evidence.
Certainly this is the most exciting time to be alive in the history of humanity, as far as we know.
At least the history of the modern world.
So, okay, albarinoevents.com is the website where people can find out about NEFCON coming up in June of this year in Bozeman, Montana.
I love Bozeman.
It's a great town.
It has been taken over by a lot of Californians, though.
I don't know.
They all want to have homes in Bozeman.
We're checking it back.
Yeah, that's a good thing.
Bozeman's a better choice than living in LA, so I understand that for sure.
And also, Bozeman is not on fire at the moment.
That's a good thing.
That's a plus, yeah.
Timothy, thank you for the invite.
Thank you for your analysis and information today.
Thank you for all that you do.
It's been a lot of fun talking with you today.
Thank you, Mike.
I really appreciate you having me back on, and I can't wait to see you over here in Bozeman, Montana for NEFCON. I love it.
Yeah.
Again, Montana is a place I love to visit.
Been there many times.
All right.
Well, thank you, Timothy.
Great honor to have you on.
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