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TJ Smith, author of 'The Last Semite,' interviewed by Mike Adams on Biblical history...

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	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon Free Speech Platform.
	And today we have a very special guest in studio.
	His name is TJ Smith, and he's at TJSmithMinistries.com.
	And he's an author of many interesting, intriguing books on the subjects that we're about to talk about today.
	Welcome, TJ. It's great to have you here.
	Thank you, Mike.
	It's an honor to be here.
	Been following you for several years now, and we love your products.
	In fact, kudos.
	You have a great tech team.
	They treated us like royalty back there and gave us stuff, and we're sold.
	You've got a great ministry going on here, and we love everything you're doing.
	Hey, if you go to the trouble to come visit us, we're going to shower you with superfoods and freeze-dried snacks and whatever, like good stuff.
	So, thank you for coming.
	I really appreciate it.
	This is the first time we've ever spoken.
	It is.
	We are living in a world right now.
	Let me just lay out the groundwork here, and then I'll turn it over to you.
	We're living in a world right now where we have this current nation of Israel, led by currently Netanyahu, who is under indictment in multiple ways, but that's a different story.
	And he appears to represent this group called Zionists, or this philosophy of Zionism, which admittedly, openly says that God gave them the right to bomb and kill other people around them in Gaza, in Lebanon, you know, I guess eventually in southern Turkey as well, you know, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, all of it.
	They believe that God gave them this sole right to determine who lives and who dies and to take the land because they say God promised it to them in the Bible because they claim to be Semites.
	And then they claim that anybody who opposes their genocide, ethnic cleansing, displacement, whatever, is an anti-Semite.
	And that word has been weaponized to try to shut down criticism of Israel.
	Probably both of us have been accused at one time or another of being anti-Semites.
	You've done extensive research into what is a Semite.
	You have a book about it.
	So where do we begin to understand what is a Semite?
	I mean, are we talking about just those of Abraham?
	And are the people of modern-day Israel, are they actually Semites or not?
	Right.
	So I typically start with, I don't, and I say this like first page, I don't hate.
	The people Moses led through the desert.
	I don't hate the people that crucified our Lord.
	I don't hate those guys.
	What I hate is someone posing as someone else for a land grab.
	Absolutely.
	And in my opinion, and through research, DNA and science, that's what's happened.
	So we have to kind of rewind for folks that aren't aware.
	Noah, it really begins with Noah.
	Noah had three sons, Shem, Japheth, and Ham.
	Their descendants were called Shemites, Hamites, and Japhethites.
	So it's Shem's descendants, the Shemites, that morphed into the word Semite.
	So if someone says, well, I am from, I'm a Semite, you're saying, I descend through Abraham, Jacob, Esau, King David, all the way back.
	To Noah.
	The problem is they call themselves Semites, yet every prime minister of Israel has claimed descendancy as an Ashkenazi.
	So, yeah, the last four letters are Nazi.
	I don't go there, you know.
	But Ashkenaz was the grandson of one of the other brothers, Shem, Ham, Japheth.
	Ashkenaz...
	Was the grandson of Japheth.
	There were no land-grab promises to Japheth or Ham.
	The only one that eventually got the land promises were those that descended from Shem.
	So you go there first.
	I thought the promise was originally to Abraham.
	Yes, and Abraham descended, of course, from Shem.
	But didn't this promise...
	It was a covenant.
	It was a two-way agreement, wasn't it?
	No.
	Wait, let me just answer the question.
	You know more than I do, so I'll defer to you.
	But my understanding was that God said that as long as you are obedient to God's teachings, then you will be blessed with these things.
	Yeah.
	And the only reason I said no, not to say you're wrong, but the covenant that God had always made was conditional between God and this guy and God and this group of people.
	When it was with Abraham, remember God put him to sleep, cut the sacrifice, and God alone walked through it.
	It was a unilateral covenant so that no man could break it.
	Ah, okay.
	So then the Zionists would say, well, see there?
	It's unbreakable.
	It's ours.
	Wait.
	Paul had said the promise of the inheritance, the heir, Would be to Abraham and his seed.
	And Paul lays it out in the New Testament, the seed is Jesus.
	Okay, but the Old Testament teachings, the Zionists reject all of Paul and Christ and the New Testament, all of it.
	They're not going to accept that.
	Right.
	But as believers, and what the New Testament was laying out was, you had this, you know, it's the spiritual and the physical.
	So Paul had said, most of prophecy, it's physical, then the spiritual comes.
	It's not the other way around.
	So when Moses led his disciples out of the desert for 40 years to the promised land, Jesus became the spiritual Moses who led us to a spiritual promised land.
	So Adam was the first man, Jesus was the first spiritual man.
	So there's always this back and forth, the parallel.
	That we have to keep in mind.
	We have to keep context.
	So God made the covenant with Abraham, but made sure Abraham couldn't mess it up.
	So he put him to sleep.
	God walked, because most people were supposed to walk through the open bull together.
	God made it with himself.
	And in the book, I'll just show you what it looks like if you go to the website.
	It looks like that.
	The Last Semite.
	Yeah, show the website here.
	It is tjsmithministries.com.
	And you can access it through tjsmithministries.com or.org.
	There it is, yeah.
	Yeah, either one will get you there, the.org or the.com.
	And here's the book, The Last Semite.
	Yeah, The Last Semite, and it's available in e-book, too.
	Okay.
	But I give the references to...
	And what I would call common sense, too, which is sadly missing in a lot of our culture.
	Well, yes, yes.
	But continue with this, because if modern-day Zionists say that it was an unbreakable covenant, and they also say that they are the Semites.
	Now, of course, Netanyahu, the situation gets complicated because he's, I think, originally from Poland.
	Right?
	And then he changed his name, didn't he?
	Yeah, he took his...
	Okay, so his grandfather?
	Yeah.
	His first name was Netanyahu.
	Uh-huh.
	And then he got in trouble or was scared because he was displaced.
	So he actually made his middle name his last name.
	So his father then took that name.
	So Netanyahu's last name is really his grandfather's first name.
	So there's not a lot of substantial evidence.
	And since the fall of, you know, Jerusalem in 70 A.D., all of the records of lineages were destroyed.
	So even in 100 A.D., someone could say, hey, I'm from the tribe of Benjamin.
	Oh, prove it.
	Well, you know, those records got destroyed.
	Well, I'm sorry, pal, the burden of proof's on you.
	So for 2,000 years, no one has been able to trace where they came from.
	People can say, well, I took a 23andMe test.
	That DNA said that I am 100% Jewish.
	I have a friend who passed away, but he handed me his letter from 23andMe, and he was so excited about it.
	What that means is he was 100% Ashkenazi Jew, Kazarian Jew.
	So if people aren't familiar with that, Kazars was an empire, takes up most of southern Russia.
	Ukraine is right on the edge, so it was actually part of King Bulan's empire back in the 8th or 9th century, and he needed a religion with allies.
	So the story goes, and I'll simplify it, he brought in a Catholic priest, he brought in a rabbi, and he brought in a Muslim to all give their spiel.
	They gave their pitch, and he decided, you know, the one that kind of has everything in common with the other two is, Judaism.
	So, sounds good to me.
	He converted his entire nation to Judaism.
	Every one of those are now on Wikipedia.
	And, you know, if it's in Wikipedia, it's got to be right.
	The one thing I like about Wikipedia, it's so liberal, right?
	And they control what you put out.
	You can't go change something with truth, yet they even admit 97% of all Jews come from Khazaria.
	They're Ashkenaz.
	The other 3% are Sephardic.
	Well, Sephardic was the Spanish generation or when the rabbis went and converted Spain.
	So the other three are also converts.
	So basically, 100% of all people claiming to be Judaic adherents, they're converts.
	That's it.
	So wait, they're not descendants of Shem?
	No.
	So where are the descendants of Shem?
	I think they ended at the last Semite.
	And I think with the temple being destroyed, they killed a million Jews in the city.
	Oh, my.
	Yeah, they took 100,000 of them captive and placed them in places like Pompeii as slaves, and they died out.
	And if you look at the global picture of Scripture, the narrative of the Bible, I don't see that God ever wanted Judaism to continue once His Son came to redeem the world.
	Well, that's not at all controversial to say that, but you may have a point, right?
	Because Jesus was the new humanity, right?
	And really the new covenant with God, in essence.
	And if Jesus didn't bring together Jew and Gentile, which Paul says, then he failed in his attempts.
	So we still have Jews here and we have Christians here.
	Yeah, there are people that follow the Jewish faith, and I also mention that in here.
	For all of 99% of the people that follow the Jewish faith, they love it.
	They're wonderful people.
	They love their kids.
	They want peace and harmony in the world.
	They want freedom.
	They want to live their life.
	Right.
	There are many Jews that oppose what Netanyahu is doing.
	That's not what this is about.
	Right.
	This is about the leaders.
	And that goes back to Rothschild's 1800s who wanted to establish that Israeli state.
	And were willing to do whatever they had to do.
	Hitler's grandfather was a Jew.
	He was one of the Rothschilds.
	Rothschilds, I mean, they invented that name for themselves.
	Yeah.
	And they were, you know, the...
	That's a German word for red shield, isn't it?
	Well, and then the royal family.
	They changed their last names because they also were Jews.
	The Ashkenazi Jews.
	The Rothschilds were Ashkenazi Jews.
	Hitler's grandfather was a Rothschild.
	And then, whoa, son of a gun.
	He's chancellor of Germany.
	How did that happen so quick?
	Oh, now he's the leader of Germany.
	How did that happen so quick?
	Yeah, and then the central banks and everything else.
	But let me back up for a second.
	So, if I understand you correctly, and of course you can correct me, you're saying that even from a lineage point of view, there's no...
	Solid evidence showing that modern-day Israelites are actually Semites.
	Right.
	And I'll extend that.
	They can't trace their genealogy to Ham or Japheth either.
	Oh, wow.
	All those records are gone.
	There's no way.
	All they can do is trace as far back as the 8th or 9th century to an Ashkenaz, to a Khazarian Empire.
	So, well, then what about modern-day...
	Palestinians, are they Semites?
	Or not?
	And one of the, I'm glad you asked, one of the studies I list in here from an Israeli genesis, what do they call them?
	Studies genealogy?
	A geneticist.
	He said there is more ancient DNA in Palestinians than there are in Jews.
	So he said if anyone deserves that land, it's the Palestinians.
	Wow, that's different.
	Yeah, that's a big aha.
	But let me step back for a second and ask a bigger question that I think our audience would agree, and I think you'll agree with this, that we do not believe that your genetic code alone establishes some kind of sovereign right to land.
	Right.
	I mean, that whole idea, which was the kings and queens of ancient Europe, that you were born as a god and you had the right to rule over others, I thought we abandoned that.
	It was supposed to be democracy or a constitutional republic.
	But this idea today, and America ended slavery, right?
	We no longer say because you were born with black skin that you are destined to be owned by another human.
	That's absurd, right?
	Right now, modern day in Israel, with the support of most of the U.S. Congress and many governors and lawmakers, they say that because of their claimed genetic ancestry, they sit above all other humans.
	Isn't that a contradiction of the so-called liberal world order and democracy and the rule of law?
	I mean, isn't that a contradiction of everything that...
	Modern society teaches us?
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	That is the blanket of deception that has been so successful.
	Just claim that I deserve that.
	It's in this book.
	And, you know, the Rothschilds, Theodore Herzl was a Rothschild right-hand man.
	He's the one that held the first Zionist conference in like 1897. He's the one that went to the Pope, because they knew, the Rothschilds knew, we need a big religious thing behind us on this.
	The Jewish state wasn't going to do it.
	There was no Jewish state.
	There was no form to it.
	It was pretty just whatever.
	So they went to the Pope at the time, and he listened to it, and he said, take a hike.
	They basically said, Be our, you know, our big arm, our strong arm force.
	Right.
	And they said, no.
	And they said, well, we got to go to the Protestants then.
	So they went to the Protestants, and they eventually came across Sirius Schofield.
	Oh, boy.
	And he was a itinerant Kansas preacher.
	He abandoned his wife and daughter, went and had an affair with a woman.
	He spent time in jail.
	For deceiving and theft.
	You know, it's just not the kind of guy you want writing your Bible, right?
	So then he deceived generations of Christians after that.
	Yeah, and it was funded by the Rothschilds.
	Wow.
	The Rothschilds paid for him to go overseas to complete and work on this Schofield reference Bible.
	And it was the first time anyone had the huevos to actually put their thoughts and comments right next to the verse.
	And even Philip Morrow, a theologian back in the 30s and 40s, he said, this is just wrong.
	This is almost anti-Christ.
	You don't put your thoughts next to the Scriptures.
	Right.
	I mean, you can write a separate report.
	Exactly.
	You can write your own commentary.
	You can give your own seminar.
	You can say whatever you want, but it's not in the Bible.
	Yeah, and they knew Rothschild's pretty smart.
	Yes.
	They've been around for a reason.
	But what happened was people began to remember Schofield's quotes more than the actual verse itself.
	Oh, wow.
	You know, the quote, well, if you cross Israel, you're crossing God.
	That came out of Schofield's mouth.
	Uh-huh.
	Right next to the verse.
	Well, but it has led to a situation today that I've observed, especially among, let's say, older Christians in America.
	I don't know if it was a generational thing or what, but they were taught the Schofield Bible or variations of it, and they now irrationally and automatically support Israel no matter what, even if it violates everything else in which they believe.
	And let me give an example of this.
	So we have a lot of Christian conservatives in America, lawmakers and so on, and they will say they are pro-life, which you think means pro-life.
	So they're like, it's wrong to murder babies in the womb.
	But then, the very next sentence, they'll say, it's right to kill them in Gaza.
	And I say, whoa, what happened to your values over here?
	I thought you believed in Jesus and God's values and life, and then now you're saying it's okay to kill people because of something you were taught in the Schofield Bible.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so that was part of that whole plan.
	That Schofield Bible was designed to...
	To get Christians anemic, to get us passive, to get us out of the way, let whatever they want to do happen because it's in the Bible.
	It's coming.
	Well, I don't want to get in the way of God.
	I don't want to cross Israel.
	Israel wants to take Palestine.
	Well, I want to be on Israel's side because they're the apple of God's eye.
	And it has produced...
	Several generations of passive, ignorant Christians.
	Absolutely.
	I'm glad you used that word.
	Because I would argue that even Paul himself, he didn't say it directly, but he did not want Christians to be ignorant Christians.
	Right.
	He wanted people to think about what they were doing.
	Not to question Christ himself, but to...
	Well, I mean, didn't Paul teach that you don't need to do all these old rituals from the Old Testament?
	You don't need to actually eat kosher all the time.
	It's about the heart.
	It's about the intent.
	Like these ancient rituals, think about what you're doing, right?
	So why can't today's Christians in America think about this and realize that what Israel is doing today violates the teachings of Christ?
	Yeah.
	John Hagee.
	Which I was on a TV show with John Hagee back in the 90s.
	He has 99 million viewers, 100 million viewers now.
	Yeah.
	And he's like leading the charge of Zionism and has without a degree in theology or anything.
	He had like a business degree.
	And he bought into it, hook, line, singer.
	I feel sorry for him.
	I don't think he really knows.
	I've sent him the book.
	Never heard back.
	I'm sure they didn't.
	He contacted me because I was a performer for quite a while and did vocal impersonations at Fredericksburg.
	It was a theater there and did like 200 shows a year.
	That's a great talent, by the way.
	Yeah, I like it.
	Thank you.
	It was fun.
	No, I've often thought, well, it's a side topic, but I love that fact about you that you've done that.
	I got a call one day.
	Marie and I were driving down the street, and it was from some guy named Bob, I don't know, at John Hagee Ministries.
	Hi, this is Robert at John Hagee Ministries, and we'd like to use you to do some voiceover work of Johnny Cash reading through parts of Scripture.
	Pastor Hage is going to be doing a four-part series on the four horsemen of the apocalypse and would like you to read this.
	So I contacted him back.
	I said, well, tell me a little more about it because I've got a recording studio at my house, so I could do it there and just email it to him.
	And he said, here's the sections we want you to read from the book of Revelation.
	And it's these.
	And I was like, well, first of all, I think Revelation's been fulfilled.
	So I couldn't go there with him.
	And I said, you know, I'm not really into the whole Zionism thing.
	It was good money.
	Mike, it was going to be good money for like an hour.
	And I said, I just can't do it.
	If you ever change your viewpoints, let me know.
	If you have something else that doesn't deal with a misinterpretation of the book of the Revelation, I'm on board.
	But I can't do it.
	So he's been on this train for decades.
	You know, the four blood moons and everything's pointing to the messages in the sky and you can see the stars he's trying to tell us.
	And I'm like, you know, he's capable of just talking to us.
	You know that.
	That's a good point.
	He doesn't have to make a jigsaw puzzle out of everything.
	That's a good point.
	But just to clarify, so you think that 70 A.D. was the fulfillment of Revelation?
	Yeah.
	Am I right in thinking that?
	Yeah, and I'm not alone.
	I'm not alone.
	I know you're not alone.
	I mean, there's many, many scholars that are now saying...
	I've had a lot of people contact me about that very point.
	Yeah.
	And I'm very curious about that myself.
	Yeah.
	And that's when people say, oh, the end times.
	It's the end of time.
	The Bible never uses that phrase.
	It uses the time of the end.
	Well, it uses the day of the Lord a lot.
	The day of the Lord.
	And you know, you get the day of the Lord, the understanding from the Old Testament.
	Yeah.
	And anytime you research and you see, type it in, Day of the Lord, God is always about to punish His people for disobedience.
	That's right.
	And that's always known as punishment and the Day of the Lord.
	Yes.
	It's a judgment.
	That's what that is.
	I'm glad to hear you say that because I've said the same thing and I got flack for that.
	I'm like, the day of the Lord is not the day that you want.
	No, you don't want the day of the Lord on you.
	And you get to the New Testament and then now you start to see the transition of Jesus saying, I'm God.
	I am the Lord.
	I am the bread of life.
	I'm the way.
	I'm the life.
	No one comes to me except through the Father.
	It's over and over.
	And finally Jesus is telling the Pharisees, You're going to see me coming in the glory of my Father.
	Well, they know what the glory of the Father is.
	It's more judgment.
	That's right.
	And when he says, I will show my face.
	Yeah.
	That's not a happy moment.
	No.
	That's the understanding.
	And you look again in the Old Testament when you see God doing this cloud of glory.
	Oh, I want a cloud of glory.
	No, when that cloud of glory came, it typically was the dust coming up from the soldiers marching to punish Jerusalem once again.
	Yeah, once again, yeah.
	We're taking you into captivity for 400 years.
	70 years this time.
	I mean, you're going to know, and that's what God would say, you're going to know, I am the Lord.
	Well, and that's a segue to another question I had for you, and I'm sorry if I'm jumping around, but in the Old Testament, The kingdom of Judea and the ancient Israelites in various years, they repeatedly betrayed the Lord.
	And they were judged again and again, and they were taught lessons again and again, and occasionally they would come back to the Lord and things would get a little better in Jerusalem for a while, but not for long.
	And then they would go back to the same wicked ways, and they would be judged again and again.
	And it struck me as I was really studying this that it seems to me like And this is my take on it.
	I'm curious about yours.
	But God got tired of that cycle and said, I'm going to try something different.
	And that's Christ.
	Like, the Israelites could never be turned into good people just by repeatedly punishing them.
	Like, that pattern did not work.
	They were just inherently so wicked for whatever reason.
	Maybe it's just human nature.
	I don't know.
	But Christ was the new way to say, okay, guess what?
	We're not just going to keep wiping out your cities and sending plagues upon you and so on.
	Now we're going to actually teach love, and we're going to teach a much higher consciousness way of inviting God and Christ into your life.
	Does that make sense to you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, you're right.
	I would go one step further and say God planned it that way.
	He never intended for that old thing to continue on.
	You know, those were, as Paul would say, those were shadows of the coming reality.
	I see.
	And Christ was the coming reality.
	So everything, you can see a picture, a motif, the garden motif of Adam having daily fellowship with God.
	Adam disobeyed.
	He lost it.
	And Paul says Christ restored what Adam lost, which was a personal relationship with the Father.
	So we have that.
	So all of this was a plan designed, but I... I feel like God said, I've got to take you through how it looks in the physical to be in a covenant with someone until Christ brings the spiritual side of it.
	You know, Jesus stood before Pilate and said, this kingdom's not in my world.
	That's right.
	I have a spiritual kingdom.
	That's right.
	We serve a spiritual king who has a spiritual kingdom, and he could care less about terra firma.
	He could care less about 18 more square miles.
	Oh, yeah, well, go ahead and just, you know.
	Knock off another 10,000 or 20,000 Palestinians or whoever you want.
	Just get that land back.
	Well, and I think Jesus of Nazareth was also saying to Pilate that I am no threat to Rome.
	Right.
	I'm no threat to you.
	I'm not a threat to anything of this earth.
	I am the son of God, king of God's world, which is beyond this world.
	And Pilate probably thought, ah, this guy's nuts.
	I don't think Pilate believed what he was saying, right?
	No.
	Pilate just said he's not a threat to Rome.
	No, he's nothing.
	You know, even the high priest, when he was questioning Jesus, and Jesus said, you're going to see me come in the glory of the Father, and he tore his robe.
	Surely this man speaks, you know, apostasy, heresy.
	Why did he say that?
	Because they knew the only person that could come on clouds of glory was the Father.
	So he was saying, I'm God.
	That's why they did.
	You're saying you're God.
	You're not.
	We're going to kill you?
	So it was all a huge play, of course.
	Okay, so even though we know that Jesus himself is the Son of God, the expression of God, right?
	God embodiment, let's say.
	Even Jesus did not claim the right to murder anybody he wanted in this world.
	Although the Jews or the Zionists do claim that right.
	So the Zionists, aren't they putting themselves above Jesus in terms of their power over man?
	You think?
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean, you're spot on.
	That's been the damage of Zionism.
	And I'm only going to take it back maybe 300 years.
	200 for sure.
	You know, it's 1800s.
	They started pulling in, you know, John Darby.
	And John Darby basically said, hey, I got a new revelation.
	Been hidden for 1800 years.
	I got the ticket.
	You know, who wants to buy a ticket?
	And it was, there's going to be a secret gathering, and we're going to take you up.
	The rapture.
	Yeah, and I got it.
	God just gave it to me.
	Here it is.
	Schofield picked up on that.
	He studied, knew him.
	He picked up on it, started formulating it.
	Of course, that led to him being ushered off to Europe on somebody else's nickel, and eventually in Switzerland on someone else's nickel.
	He came up with his commentary, his Schofield Bible, in like 18 months.
	And other scholars have said, there's no way anyone can do a Bible translation 18 months.
	Yeah.
	And they said, actually, Schofield didn't like King James Version.
	He liked the ESV. But they said, we need the one that everyone's going to be turning to.
	Stick with the King James.
	But within there, you could see his disdain.
	Some verses he would say, it says this, but I'm telling you, this is what it means.
	And he would change the meaning of it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	There's so many places where he changed words like the, he would change it in the jot or tittle.
	He would change it to plural instead of singular.
	Oh, wow.
	When God told Abraham, I'm going to bless you.
	And I'll bless thee.
	He changed it to plural so it had a group meaning now, so they could take it and extrapolate it and go, see, it's all of us.
	Oh, that's a big change.
	Oh, yeah.
	He did a lot.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Let me shift again and back up to mankind's rule of law question about all of this.
	Back to the modern-day Zionists claiming the right to land and the right to resources and so on.
	Rights above other men.
	We, as a world, we don't accept the religious writings of any other culture, such as Native American Indians.
	Let's say, if the Native American Indians came up with a lost scroll or something, and if that scroll said, we, the Native Americans...
	This is our land.
	God gave it to us.
	Which, that's an argument that could actually be backed up.
	They kind of do say that.
	We were here first.
	It's our land.
	Yeah.
	But isn't it interesting that there are no senators in the U.S. Congress that say, well, therefore, the Native Americans have the right to slaughter all other Americans and to take all the land, take back New York City, take back Florida, take back...
	Tennessee, half the states are named after Native American names.
	Half the rivers, I mean Mississippi, come on, right?
	Wyoming, it's all named after Native American.
	So why is it that in our culture, and my ancestry is part Native American actually, but I'm not making that argument.
	I'm trying to point out the contradiction that there's only one group in the world that has given this right, and that is the Zionist group.
	What about the Chinese?
	What about the Mesoamericans?
	What about the Hindus?
	Don't they have their own writings?
	Now, you and I would say, well, that's not the equivalent to the Bible, but in their culture, they say God told them that they have the right.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So what is this contradiction?
	I don't know, because we rail against Islam because, well, they just want to kill the infidel, and that'll usher in Mohammed back.
	What are we doing?
	We're supporting Giving money, giving arms, giving training, giving technology to Israel, they're doing the same thing.
	And Christians are thinking, well, the worse it gets, the closer it is, and the mothership comes and gets us.
	I was talking with Harrison Smith the other day, and I said, you know, in the 90s, I was in Fort Worth, driving down the freeway, And Christian Radio, there was a gentleman named Baxter, Irving Baxter.
	Okay.
	And he was kind of an end times prophet.
	And I was just blown away.
	He said, you know, it's getting worse and worse, in a real gruff voice.
	The worse it gets, the closer Jesus is to coming back, so bring it on!
	Bring on the famine!
	Bring on the Antichrist!
	Let's get out of here!
	I was like...
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, yeah.
	And that's what Zionism has done to make us impotent as believers.
	Wait, stand back, let it all happen, because as soon as it happens, it's going to be painful.
	And I don't understand, because supposedly they believe two-thirds of the Jews will be killed.
	So wasn't it bad enough in World War II? So Christians are excited?
	There's like 14 or 18 million Jews.
	They're excited 10 million Jews are going to be slaughtered just so Jesus can come back?
	Because that's supposedly part of the prophecies that have to be fulfilled in the future.
	You guys are sick.
	It seems like they believe that they can summon Jesus by accelerating these events.
	To me, that seems demonic.
	You don't summon Jesus.
	Jesus comes on his own schedule.
	But to think that Jesus is under the command of men, isn't that an antichrist belief itself?
	Well, yeah, and to go back to your point about the American Indians, it kind of was their land.
	And it could have been done nicer, I guess.
	And you get both sides.
	Well, they were scalping us.
	Well, then we started scalping them, and then we killed the buffalo so they couldn't eat.
	It's like, okay, let's just say it wasn't a good thing.
	It happens in every continent where the strongest wins.
	But, you know, we're just the white devils because we put them on a reservation, which is horrible.
	We can't always judge the ancient past by today's moral framework.
	But what's interesting about that, and I'm sorry to interrupt you, but what's interesting about that is that Israel is living in the moral past but applying it to the modern day.
	So, you see what I'm saying?
	Talk about what happened to the Native Americans.
	That would never happen today like that, except in Israel.
	Or with Israel attacking Gaza.
	So what the colonists did to the Native Americans, that's exactly what Israel is doing, but with more bombs.
	And I don't get, and it's like nobody asked the question.
	Okay, when do you stop?
	How much more do you want?
	I've got a chart, you've got four pictures of...
	The Gaza Strip and Israel and, you know, Galilee.
	And you can see it from 1940 until now.
	Yeah.
	It's almost, oh, they've pushed the Palestinians to one little spot on a map.
	Right.
	Can you, are you good now?
	Have you had enough?
	Oh, you want more?
	It's like, why?
	What is it?
	You know, you think about how all the other, and this is how the media has portrayed it, and military, all the other countries hate Israel.
	I kind of think I know why now.
	Right.
	Death to America.
	I wonder why.
	Because we're the big brother going, yeah, go ahead.
	Here's more weapons.
	We gave them a hydrogen bomb.
	We didn't give any other country a hydrogen bomb.
	But it's to protect them.
	Well, they're kind of causing this.
	And to back up, I keep reminding the reader, this isn't...
	Biblical Jews we're talking about.
	Right, that's a good point.
	These are radical, Kazarian descendants who converted to Jerusalem.
	So I'm not really talking about descendants of Abraham.
	Those people, gosh, God love them.
	Our first disciples were Jewish.
	The first Holy Ghost meeting, tent revival, was Jewish.
	All the first descendants were Jewish.
	And they all converted to Christianity.
	John Hagee thinks, They can just remain Jewish.
	That's not what Jesus said.
	Paul said, there is salvation in no one else other than Jesus Christ.
	John Hagee says, oh yeah, there is.
	They've already got a covenant.
	Okay, well, who am I going to believe?
	John Hagee or Paul?
	But back to your original question, when do they stop?
	Now, modern day Israeli soldiers, they wear these arm patches that show the map of greater Israel.
	And as you are well aware, I think our listeners are aware, that includes parts of Egypt, parts of Syria, parts of Iraq, parts of Saudi Arabia, even all of Lebanon is gone under that map, right?
	Parts of southern Turkey, and of course Jordan.
	Don't forget Jordan.
	If they fulfill that map, number one, they would have to murder millions of people in many countries that you would think at some point, like the Egyptians, would say, wait a second.
	Why are we letting Israel take all our land again and take over the Suez Canal, which is a big revenue source for Egypt and also a strategic, obviously.
	But even if Israel conquered all that land and murdered millions of people, would they stop there?
	No, of course not.
	Why stop?
	It would just be greater, greater Israel.
	It would just be a bigger map.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The greater Israel, in fact, I... If I've got it here, I'll thumb through this in a minute, but it even deals with this greater Israel and the Old Testament.
	There is a passage that the greater Israel that they're talking about, it says it right in Scripture.
	It does.
	And God gave them the outskirts and the outer lands of the Transjordan and the this.
	It's like, mission accomplished.
	He did it.
	There's nothing left.
	I call it, it's fake, but it's, you know, so all the Jews can come back to Jerusalem.
	Wait, they've had a state since 1948. Why isn't Jerusalem 100% full of 14 million Jews who have just been waiting to go back home?
	They could have gone back home anytime.
	The answer is, first of all, they're not biblical Jews.
	Second, They kind of like where they live now.
	Third, they don't really care about going back.
	They don't want to reenact animal sacrifices.
	They don't want to go back to the new moon celebrations and the three yearly pilgrimages back to the temple.
	They don't care if they ever build a temple because it's not their God.
	Yahweh is not the biblical person they serve.
	Most Jews are secular anyway.
	All right, so let's go to another legal question about this, or legal framework, which is that between the years 70 AD and 1948, to my knowledge, there were not millions of Jews staking out their claim to the land that there were not millions of Jews staking out their claim to the land that was
	And it's universally recognized in human law that if you abandon property for a period of time, you no longer own it.
	Occupy it, possess it, and control it, you no longer own it.
	And there are squatting laws, and some of it's been abused, obviously, in the U.S. But if you buy a house somewhere, and then you never go there for a thousand years, and then you can't just one day come back and say, well, this is still mine more than a thousand years later, or almost 2,000 years later.
	So isn't there that element in this where, okay, The UN grants Israel recognition in 1948, but Palestine isn't empty.
	There are already people there who have lived there for centuries.
	Generation after generation after generation, building infrastructure, orchards, olive orchards, farms, irrigation, homes, all of that, right?
	Shouldn't that count for something?
	And there's Africans living there, and there's Christians, and there's Muslims.
	Exactly.
	There's Asians.
	I mean, in Israel, you've got like 17 different nationalities living there.
	Are we supposed to get rid of them all?
	Right.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	None of it makes sense.
	And this law of return that they talk about, it's a law of return.
	You have to have at least a Jewish mother.
	According to one of the science reports in here from the professor at Tel Aviv University, he's found that 97% Of these Ashkenazi Jews come from Europe, the Caucasus.
	Caucasus, right?
	They're Caucasian.
	They're white, basically.
	And their mothers are European.
	So they don't even qualify for this law of return that they talk about.
	So it's just, it's a hot mess.
	Yeah.
	And it started by, like you said, nobody was really begging for their land until the early...
	1900s, the late 1800s, when you started getting the push from the Rothschilds.
	Yeah.
	And Theodore Herzl, who was instigating, and he's the one that got with Congress over there and had him draw up the Balfour Declaration, which was going to establish this.
	And he even said, in 30 years, Israel will be a state.
	How did he know that?
	Yeah.
	Because it was about 32 years later, 1948. The other interesting thing about the Schofield Bible, it actually came out in 1909, but Oxford was kind of highly funded by the Rothschilds and the press that they owned.
	1909, the first Schofield came out.
	1917, when the Balfour Declaration was signed, I think it was 1917, Oxford came out with a new Bible, a new version, because they own the copyright, not Schofield.
	He gave that up.
	So now they changed it when they signed the Balfour Declaration and changed verses and changed comments.
	They changed it again in 1948. A new version's just come out of the Schofield Bible, reemphasizing that they own this, going through Joshua, going through Genesis 15. Wow.
	Yeah, and then they did it one more time during that period, 1967. What happened in 1967?
	Seven-day war.
	Again, they were using that as a marketing tool, and what would you call it?
	Yeah, an article to...
	Propaganda for public support.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Yeah.
	So, let's now talk about the modern-day implications of this, because this isn't just theory.
	This is happening right now.
	And I believe that the Noahide laws...
	Could pose a real danger to freedom of speech in America and to Christians in America.
	And I'm curious about your thoughts on this, but we saw during the Free Palestine student protest last year, all of a sudden there was massive police action all across the college campuses.
	When Black Lives Matter and Antifa were rioting, they didn't do anything.
	They didn't lift a finger.
	It was peaceful, man.
	Right, right.
	But as soon as Palestinian students, or even just Palestinian supporting students, said free Palestine, then the police were beating everybody to the ground, which I saw.
	It happened here at Austin, and our governor of Texas was all over that.
	It was like, wow, what's going on?
	So these no-hide laws, and I've interviewed another guest on that, from what I understand, but again, please correct me if you have a different understanding, Trump seems to be on board with this.
	Most of the Senate and Congress, who are all paid by what's the Israeli lobby called?
	The lobbying group that gives all this money to Congress?
	Yeah.
	Their name will come up.
	They pay all this money, so they're going to support these laws, and these laws would outlaw criticism of Israel and Zionism, including quoting Scripture.
	Yeah.
	So, it seems like our lawmakers are willing to sacrifice the First Amendment to appease Zionism.
	Yeah, have you seen that list?
	I've seen it floating around several times.
	Of all the politicians that have dual citizenship in Israel?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's wild.
	So, it's not that they're just kind of going, well, okay, I'll do it.
	No, they're behind it.
	So, that's troublesome to me.
	I voted for Trump.
	I voted for him the last time.
	I think he's the best choice.
	Well, I'm glad Trump won.
	I mean, we couldn't live under the tyranny of Kamala or whatever.
	But I wish he'd read the book.
	I mean, I wish he would see that these aren't the biblical Jews we're talking about.
	Not one of these people's ancestors were on the ark.
	They didn't march through the desert.
	They weren't hanging out in Jerusalem wondering where Yeshua was.
	I need to get my foot broken.
	It's not the same people.
	They're imposters.
	And again, I'm not talking about the couple that have five children or one child or they love their neighbors.
	I want them as nuclear neighbors.
	Absolutely.
	But we're not talking about the people that adhere to Jewish values.
	Right.
	Okay?
	Right.
	We're talking about the political movement of Zionism, which Ronald Reagan was, Billy Graham was, you got John Hagee.
	It's just the list is...
	Full of people that we respect and go, wow, great leader.
	But I think they bought into it and they don't know any better.
	And they've just accepted it.
	They should know better.
	They're adults.
	They should.
	But to your point, the average Christian should know better.
	The average Christian should study enough scripture that they understand what's going on.
	And they understand the biblical narrative that there once was a people that were God's people and that he called him his bride.
	And he used the marriage motif of marriage and adultery.
	That was idolatry.
	And he called it adultery.
	He didn't really mean sleeping with somebody else.
	It was idolatrous to God.
	And then he said, now I'm bringing in true salvation.
	I'm bringing in grace, and I'm doing away with the law.
	So that was Jesus.
	Now we've got a new thing happening.
	We've got a new gig that we're playing, and it's the new covenant.
	All Christians believe we have personal relationship with God.
	That only happened when Christ brought the new covenant.
	He restored what Adam lost in the garden.
	Whether you think it was real or a metaphor, doesn't matter.
	He still restored a relationship with God.
	He fulfilled everything.
	He said, I came to fulfill all the laws, all the prophecies of the prophets.
	Did Jesus fail?
	Oh no, he's going to fulfill more in the future.
	Really, why does Scripture say He did fulfill all of them now?
	You know, I mean, and you've got, well, actually John says in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
	Well, there was only one person, and the Word came, and they rejected the Word, and they killed Him.
	Who are we talking about now?
	You know, so understanding that narrative of what the Bible's talking about, and then...
	The scary book of the Revelation.
	Some people say Revelations.
	But that's not it.
	It's not plural.
	No, it's singular.
	It's a revelation.
	It's of Jesus Christ.
	Jesus said, hey, John.
	And do you believe that's John the Apostle?
	That that was given to you?
	No, I don't.
	Not now.
	Because I've asked a lot of people that question.
	I believe it was what they would call Lazarus.
	His name in that culture was John Eleazar.
	Eleazar's Lazarus, but it's also a priestly title, which is probably the one that got to go in to the temple courts the night Jesus was there getting whipped, and he brought Peter with him.
	That's the John that got in.
	I see.
	The one that he raised from the dead.
	But it is a very detailed, meticulously recorded, long revelation.
	I mean, you could imagine it must have taken days to absorb that message, right?
	Yeah, and the revelation, Jesus said, I'm going to show you the things which are about to happen.
	He starts it in chapter 1 and he finishes it at the end.
	And it's about to happen.
	That's the word mellow in Greek.
	About to.
	Mellow means, you can look it up, it never meant more than a month or two.
	We're about to go to Cyrene.
	We're about to go and they're going to take you and beat you.
	So, you put all that together, the revelation was not the revelation of the signs to look for at the end of the world.
	It was the revelation of who Jesus Christ is, and that there's one more punishment to end this old covenant, and we're going to start the new one, and it's a spiritual kingdom.
	If you can grasp that, or anyone watching, that makes the book a lot easier to understand.
	That's interesting.
	And here we are nearly 2,000 years later where a significant portion of the human population living today still hasn't accepted Christ or those teachings.
	But let me broaden that out to a bigger question, which is that Christians, I hope that Christians believe that all human beings are children of God.
	That God created all of us.
	God created everything, the cosmos, the planet, and all human beings.
	That, therefore, like you said up front, you and I don't have in our hearts any kind of hatred toward people who practice Judaism.
	We have no such inherent hatred.
	What we despise is human suffering, though.
	We despise human suffering and perhaps evil or deception, those kinds of things we despise because we are values-oriented people.
	How do Christians today justify to themselves that Israel is murdering children of God, including many Christians in Gaza and Lebanon, but also of course Islam, followers of Islam being murdered.
	But aren't followers of Islam also, in essence, children of God?
	Can we discuss that?
	I'll address the Palestinians.
	That we see the most suffering coming from.
	And they've been killing these people 70 years, 75 years now?
	Yeah.
	Or longer.
	Right.
	Some people say a thousand, but for what we can in our modern times.
	And there is a high rate of Christianity among the Palestinians.
	Yes.
	And Christians will sit back because we're ignorant of Scripture.
	We're ignorant of how we've been deceived by Zionism.
	And these Rothschild, Ashkenaz, Kazarian, they're wicked.
	They're bad news.
	And we say, well, I don't really want to think about that Palestinians believe in the same Jesus I believe in.
	People say that?
	Well, I mean, that's what they're saying by their apathy.
	I see.
	To not make a stand and say, well, that's wrong.
	Those are my brothers and sisters in Christ.
	Right.
	But we're allowing it because, well...
	Jesus will come back and, well, they'll probably go to heaven anyway.
	I'll see them later.
	Wait a minute.
	I don't get that.
	You know, I don't get the logic.
	Like you said, how can we stand back and let the Zionists kill off Palestine or anyone in the region for a land grab?
	How do we justify that as believers?
	I think it's what you're saying.
	Well, and also that there were Christian hospitals in Gaza, specifically Christian hospitals, that were...
	Repeatedly bombed to murder the patients and hospital staff, healthcare workers, bombed by Israel.
	And, you know, if you're a Christian and you can't support a hospital as being neutral ground, you don't believe in anything Christ taught, I don't think, really.
	But that's how strong the chokehold is with, if you cross Israel, you're crossing God.
	Wow.
	People are just, they're willing...
	Our consumerist society, make me feel good, Joel Osteen.
	I just want to hear a positive message.
	I want to live my best life today.
	Oh, don't make me feel bad.
	I don't want to have to think about it.
	So the church just became a Tony Robbins seminar.
	Yeah, they're impotent.
	The church is ignorant.
	They're impotent.
	It's sad.
	Even our Christian seminaries, they're teaching critical theory.
	They're teaching...
	Women's rights.
	I'm like, even the church...
	Critical race theory?
	Yes.
	Even the church is segmenting and creating division amongst ourselves.
	That's bonkers.
	You know, there's a black women's study in one university, a Christian seminary.
	Black women's study, and they talk about how well the white women have it while they're suffering.
	And it's like...
	Can we stop this division?
	That's the opposite of what Christ was all about, bringing us together.
	There was no black, there was no white.
	But that brings me back to the Islam question, and I'm really curious about how you see this, because even though followers of Islam don't believe in Christ the same way Christians do, they do at least recognize Christ as a prophet, which Jews do not, and that's interesting.
	Wouldn't the proper, if I can say that, proper Christian interpretation be, well, followers of Islam are still children of God that just haven't seen the full light on who Christ is yet, or something like that?
	How do you look at it?
	They could say that.
	I'll say I'm going to bow out with a verse where Jesus said, no one comes to the Father except through me.
	That's all I can say.
	People can stretch it and say, well, I feel bad if I don't include them.
	No one comes to the Father except through Christ.
	Well, I don't believe that.
	Well, then fine.
	Don't ask me.
	If you don't believe it, we have nothing to discuss here.
	So I go through that, I filter through that, and I leave it there.
	That's all I can say about it.
	But there's more to that verse.
	There's something before that that's really relevant, and I forgot the words before it.
	But maybe when we do this again, I'd love to have you...
	And we can talk about that because I seem to recall that I felt like Christ was talking in a more broad picture about the presence of God across our planet.
	And the reason I'm asking you this is, you know, I've had guests here in studio who are followers of Islam.
	And guess what?
	They didn't try to kill me.
	And they love their children.
	They want to get along, and they love their family.
	They love their neighbors.
	Great people.
	The followers of Islam that I've met, just like followers of Judaism that I know, are also good people.
	And I think most people are good people.
	And I think you and I, we don't want fighting and wars.
	We don't want murder and slaughter and suffering at all.
	But why is it that Christians tolerate Zionists murdering Christians more than they tolerate Islam.
	Yeah.
	It's like something seems to be really off about the value system.
	Well, there's nothing to gain tolerating Islam.
	There's everything to gain tolerating the slaughter of the apple of God's eye.
	Slaughtering others if it brings Jesus quick.
	Get the mothership here.
	Let's circle the wagons.
	Hang on there.
	Bring it on!
	So it's like, well, let it happen.
	It's in the Bible.
	We can't change it anyway.
	You don't want to be against God trying to stop God.
	Again, it's that brainwashing that we've undergone for 100 years.
	Well, so let's talk about the rapture then for a second, because I've also found that a lot of Christians use the rapture as an excuse to do nothing.
	Yeah.
	And even an excuse to not go on their own spiritual development journey, to say that all I have to do is profess belief in Christ as my Savior, and that's it.
	I'm going to be saved.
	I'm going to be taken out of here before I have to lift a finger.
	And I think that's a really unhealthy spiritual attitude.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	Please.
	It's to say I just want to punch my ticket.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Why?
	I mean, you just want to punch your ticket.
	Jesus said, I'll paraphrase, I alone give eternal life.
	And I give it to whoever the Father allows me to give it to.
	You know, that's kind of a paraphrase.
	So if Jesus gives eternal life, what do you get if you don't accept Him?
	He's the one that gives us eternal life.
	Belief, right?
	Belief in Christ.
	So, to say I just want to get...
	Well, yeah, but for a Christian to say my only purpose in being here is to leave this place by accepting Christ, I think that skips over the reason why God grants us life and consciousness and free will in the first place.
	I mean, didn't God put us here for something other than just to leave?
	You know?
	Isn't life itself...
	Something that God gave us as a gift to experience and learn from.
	Well, we are given a mandate.
	We're not supposed to hide the light.
	We're supposed to be a light to the world.
	Now, some people interpret that, well, that's the Jews.
	They're the light of the world.
	I'm going, okay, let's work that out.
	I mentioned it in here.
	Jews don't evangelize.
	I've even got quotes from the leaders.
	They don't evangelize.
	We don't.
	They don't have an evangelist.
	They don't go door to door.
	They don't share the message.
	When's the last time someone said, you know, I was reading a quote from a rabbi and it really gave me a lot of...
	They're more closed.
	They're more like a captured circle.
	The guy said, this is why we don't evangelize.
	If they want to come to us, fine.
	Build out a form that can be a Jew.
	There's no reason for us to evangelize.
	I'm like, well...
	I keep going back to the filter I pour it through.
	That's because you're not a biblical Jew.
	Jesus called them to be a light on a hill and to spread the message.
	They didn't do it.
	That's why he took it away from them and said, I'm now going to give it to a people who are not a people, and you're going to be jealous of them.
	They're going to be the new light of the world.
	It's Christianity.
	So as we talked about earlier, we started with Jesus and 12 Jews.
	And within one day at Pentecost, it swelled to 3,000, and it went and built and built.
	So the Jews started out, they got through the first century with maybe 100,000, 200,000 people.
	And they've grown that to 14 to 18 million, whichever account you want to read.
	Christianity started with 12 guys, and we've got a billion Catholics and 900 million Christians.
	I'd say Christianity won out by just a little bit, right?
	We'd be in the light of the world.
	It's Christianity that feeds the nations.
	We're the leaves of healing, it mentions in the Old Testament.
	When there's a disaster, it's the Baptist men's group that's there building and sowing and cutting and feeding.
	Our church donated hundreds of thousands of dollars of food to North Carolina.
	It's always Christianity that shows up.
	But from that, and I hope you don't mind me asking, but Western Europe, We see the Christian culture surrendering to an invasion of Islam migrants.
	We see the burning of Christian cathedrals.
	I mean, really ancient, multi-century, grand structures being burned.
	And we see basically a suicide cult overlay on Christianity in Western Europe, where they're not willing to defend their principles, their religion, their nation, their language, their culture.
	So, what's going on there?
	One thing I did admire about the biblical Jews at the temple, they had this brigade called the Temple Guard.
	And that was their duty.
	Protect the temple.
	They even understood, we got enemies out there.
	And they kept all their gold in the temple, hidden, and they just had a temple guard.
	Hey, you know, they had the temple courts, the outer court where the Gentiles could worship.
	And there was a wall that ran all the way around that little...
	About this high, rock wall.
	They even had a sign that said, and I've got a copy of it here in the book, Gentiles, don't cross that wall.
	You're asking, we're going to kill you.
	If you want to die, cross that wall, that dividing wall.
	Oh, wow.
	And that's the wall that they could go ahead and worship God outside on the other side of that wall.
	In the outer course.
	The outer course, yeah.
	That was the reason Jesus flipped all the tables.
	Those market guys were setting their tables up and selling sacrificial in the outer courts where the Gentiles were coming to worship.
	And Jesus was like, no, no, that's not going to happen.
	Oh, really?
	I thought he turned them over in the inner temple.
	All through the temple.
	All throughout the areas.
	I thought it was about the money changers.
	Well, yeah.
	He said, you're not going to make it a marketplace.
	Yeah, right, right.
	So when Paul wrote that Jesus destroyed the dividing wall of hostility that was twofold, it was that when that temple fell, that wall was destroyed with it, which it's gone.
	You know, the temple veil tore.
	So many things happened with that.
	And Paul's also saying that because Jesus created one man now, that dividing wall of hostility is gone.
	We're all one in Christ.
	Okay?
	Zionism says...
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	We still want to be separate because it's working pretty well being separate and claiming to be biblical Jews.
	We get land grabs.
	Yeah, they're getting free billions from the U.S. all the time.
	And that's another interesting point is I've always heard over the years Jerusalem is like the second most technically advanced military in their weapon systems.
	The IDF? You know, they've got all this.
	They get everything we discover.
	We just hand it right over to them.
	They can reproduce.
	And you guys didn't see those Palestinians cutting that fence?
	Right.
	You didn't see them reaching.
	You know, one of the women, an Israeli soldier said, you know, we know when a cat is getting too close to that fence.
	No, October 7th was allowed to happen.
	It's very clear.
	Exactly.
	To give a pretense for exactly what they're doing now.
	They wanted to slaughter the policy.
	With that in mind, how technically advanced they are, y'all can't dial in those missiles and hit the bad guy's house or his headquarters?
	You're just throwing them out there and they're just landing on hospitals?
	And residential apartment buildings, yeah.
	Refugee camps.
	That's, to me, as a believer, if I were still into this Zionist section, I would think that would turn me.
	I'd go, you're not trying too hard.
	Well, and it is.
	A lot of Jews, I would say more and more even Jews, but also Christians, are realizing that Israel's behavior does not reflect their values.
	And Netanyahu is, in essence, putting Israel on a path of destruction.
	Greatly harming the brand of Israel.
	He's destroyed Israel's tourism industry.
	He's destroyed Israel's commerce because the ports are no longer really usable because of the Yemen militants.
	So we get to rebuild that.
	Yeah, right.
	I'm sure more taxpayer money will be used there.
	But the whole brand of Israel and Zionism and so on is really taking a lot of hits.
	And that's why the West is turning to censorship to try to protect the brand.
	Of Zionism, while Zionism is carrying out murder and genocide.
	Censorship is the last resort of the despots, right?
	Where they can't allow a discussion like the one we're having today.
	And you know, our audience may or may not agree with everything that you've said or I've said, or you and I might disagree on points, but you're teaching me a lot today, by the way.
	But that doesn't matter.
	We have the right to talk about it, right?
	Being labeled an anti-Semite just no longer works.
	No.
	I mean, I said in the book, look, calling me an anti-Semite is like calling me anti-dinosaur, anti-kiwi bird, anti-Bonderman Bailey Circus, anti-Curtis Mathis TV, dodo bird, anti-dodo bird.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They're gone.
	They're gone.
	How can I be anti if a thing doesn't even exist?
	That's right.
	And the fact that the, I'm going to call them the posers or the imposters, Not the Jewish family, but the leaders of Zionism.
	The fact that they chose the wrong brother to say they descend from, there was no land-grab promise to Japheth, but they identify as Ashkenaz.
	Then they'll say, well, Ashkenaz just really means Germany and that dispersion, that's what Ashkenaz means.
	No, no, no, no.
	Words have meaning.
	Rush taught me that.
	You guys used the wrong word.
	And then I think, why didn't they say we're Shemites?
	Why did they say...
	I mean, look it up.
	Because they could have gotten away with it.
	Every one of them.
	Every prime minister is Ashkenazi descent.
	Why did they choose that?
	I thought, wait a second.
	If they would have chose Semite, that would have brought them up through David and Jacob, Israel.
	That's...
	That's when Israel got its name, was when Jacob wrestled the angel for the count of three.
	I'm going to name you Israel now.
	Good going.
	They've chose the brother over here to say we descend from him, but we still want those land grant promises over there.
	You didn't get those.
	That's not even you.
	Then the Ashkenazi Jews, I think we even published an article on this.
	There was scientific research about how there's so much, quote, inbreeding in that group.
	That there has been an amplification of mental disorders in the genetic code that was quoted on one of these websites, like 23andMe, I don't know if it was that one, it was another one, that they were saying, yes, there's a higher tendency for a certain type of mental disorder.
	And they said because of inbreeding.
	And I was like, wow, clearly nobody there has scrubbed that yet because that would not be allowed to be stated online today with what's going on in Israel.
	So if you even say that Ashkenazi Jews are inbreeding, you're called an anti-Semite immediately even though there's PubMed published scientific literature that studied that issue.
	It was a genealogy research that was conducted in Tel Aviv.
	But you're not...
	You're not allowed to talk about that.
	No, you're an anti-Semite.
	Right?
	But isn't it bizarre?
	I mean, we can talk about how sickle cell anemia is more prominent in black populations.
	We can talk about how alcoholism is more prominent in Native American populations.
	But you can't say that...
	That there's a genetic predisposition to certain mental health disorders backed up in the scientific literature among Ashkenazi Jews.
	And along with that, and I do flow through, you know, I start off the book, besides the preface and all that, setting definitions.
	What is a Semite?
	What is a Jew?
	You know, I go through that.
	What is an Ashkenazi?
	What's a Kazarian?
	Just to get people to set it up, what are we understanding here?
	I don't want to just jump into the middle of it, you know?
	Yeah.
	So, I also talk about how do Jews, and I'm talking about Jewish leadership.
	Okay.
	How do they, the rabbis that they've noted over the decades, how do they feel about America?
	And it ain't pretty.
	No, it's not.
	I've got a quote from Netanyahu.
	It's not nice.
	I've seen the footage of Netanyahu saying America will do whatever we tell them to do.
	Yeah.
	And they said, supposedly, when we get all we can, they can blow away.
	And he saw Netanyahu made a comment about a 9-11.
	He said, well, it's going to work in our favor now.
	Well, of course.
	Yeah, because they could blame it on Iraq, you know.
	Well, and look at the so-called terror attacks that just happened, and then, oh, it happened to have an ISIS flag, and it's going to push Trump into a position where he's forced to wage more war against Israel's enemies in the Middle East.
	I know, and we saw that, and you know how it's been last, at least for Maria and I, it seemed like everybody, 2020, started waking us all up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's like, if we happen to glance at something, even on Fox News, And they show pictures of something happening.
	It's the opposite.
	Yeah.
	Very often.
	Yeah, we've seen.
	That's the case.
	So, you know, we were talking about these kids that are on campuses.
	Maybe they're just waking up.
	Maybe they're saying, hey, we're not wanting you to.
	We don't hate Jews.
	But what you do in the past is wrong.
	Yeah.
	Can we finally say it's wrong to do that?
	Yeah.
	But they're getting led to be.
	Anti-Semites.
	Let's pass some laws.
	Let's stop this behavior.
	Look what they're doing.
	They're rioting on the...
	I'm like, are they really rioting?
	Because y'all have been lying to us about everything.
	And there are provocateurs that are put into the groups.
	Undercover feds or whatever.
	Yeah, J6. To be the most radical person that's caught on video or whatever.
	Or to instigate problems.
	But look, let me give out your website again, tjsmithministries.com or.org.
	.org, yeah.
	And I'm also Instagram.
	It's at tjsmithministries.
	Okay, what about, do they allow you on YouTube?
	I don't even know.
	I do have some, I actually have some teachings on YouTube.
	Okay.
	If you type in TJ Smith, it's TJ Smith Voices.
	Okay.
	Because my channel was a lot of my performances, but I also have teaching videos.
	Yeah.
	And I go through the first seven chapters of the Revelation.
	Yeah.
	I haven't gotten the rest of them completed yet, but there are some teachings there.
	And then there's also my WordPress blog.
	Okay.
	It's Victory Now 2020. Oh.
	So there's a blog there.
	You're going to have to update the year on that now, I think.
	Well, you know, I did it like 2018, and I thought the 2020 is your vision.
	I thought, well, it'll work good for the year of 2020 as well.
	So, yeah, I hope we can get this figured out.
	It may take another generation or two.
	It might, yeah.
	But if we can eradicate, and I go through there, the benefits.
	Chapter 11. It's nothing but the benefits of getting rid of Zionism, how the world will benefit from it.
	So I want to offer some hope and some real life end results of what we can do to get rid of it.
	Well, wait, what do you mean when you say to get rid of Zionism?
	If we can stop what we've been doing, supporting Israel simply because we've been duped into thinking they're God, the apple of God's eye.
	You're not talking about like...
	Exterminating Zionists.
	No, no, no.
	You're saying the philosophy of supremacy needs to go.
	The control, the chokehold they have on our politicians.
	Okay.
	And the evangelical Christian church.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I just want to be clear.
	You're talking about just the philosophy needs to be restored.
	We need to stop that.
	It needs to be left in the footnotes of history that this Zionism that started by the Rothschilds is finally over.
	Well, and it's obsolete in our world.
	I mean, it's...
	It's a throwback to a terrible time in the history of humanity when you could just conquer your neighbors and kill them all and say, it's ours now.
	I mean, come on.
	It's 2025 now.
	It is 2025. Okay, I appreciate your time, and I'm sorry I've kept you over a little bit, but I appreciate it.
	Can I ask you, just to completely change the subject, can I ask you about your voice?
	Do you call it voice performance, voice acting, impersonation?
	It's like Rich Little.
	Right.
	Okay, I'm like Rich Little, but the majority of them are singing.
	So you could sing in a Johnny Cash style?
	Yeah, Johnny Cash.
	Wow.
	Roy Orbison.
	Oh, wow.
	I've got performing videos.
	What about Neil Diamond?
	I did Neil Diamond.
	Neil Diamond was one of the good ones people enjoyed.
	Willie Nelson.
	I do a great Willie Nelson.
	Do you?
	That's great.
	The thing is, because I'm in Texas, guys that are from Texas, there's something about our voices, I guess, that I just can gravitate.
	I did Waylon Jennings.
	I did like 75 or 80 of them during the six years I was performing them.
	So wait, you would perform songs in the voices of...
	The other artists.
	Yeah, so I would do like a tribute because I play guitar.
	Okay.
	That is so cool.
	Yeah, if it was Stevie Ray Vaughan, I had a guitar look just like Stevie Ray Vaughan.
	I would dress up just like him and I would sing Pride and Joy.
	Okay.
	Sound like him, play the lead just like him, Little Wing, whatever.
	Okay, so hold on a second here.
	So I'm a musician.
	I've recorded and done a lot of music over the years.
	I have a very distinct ear.
	I can voice print people just by their voice alone.
	Like if there's a commercial and it's a voiceover, I'm like, oh, that's Morgan Freeman.
	Morgan Freeman's voice is very specific.
	But I would love to hear, like you said, you did Willie Nelson, and Willie Nelson has a very unique type of tonality and everything.
	Would it be impolite if I asked you to sing a little bit of a riff?
	Oh, you put me on the spot?
	Is that okay?
	Do you have the guitar?
	I don't have a guitar.
	I'll do it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you had not have fallen, I would not have found you.
	That is amazing.
	Angel flying too close to the ground.
	So leave me if you need to.
	I'll always remember.
	That is great.
	Angel flying too close to the ground.
	And the timing.
	Yeah.
	How he rushes and waits.
	Yeah.
	That is fantastic.
	Yeah.
	We do him.
	And a lot of the, I did a lot of presidents.
	It's hard for me to do some of the presidents now, now that I'm a little more awake about, I'm like, ah.
	Right.
	But I still like Bill Clinton.
	I bet you can do a good Bill Clinton.
	I want you to listen.
	And I want you to listen good.
	I did not play saxophone with that woman.
	That's good.
	Isn't that right?
	Hey!
	Mike, it's good to be here with you.
	I enjoy it.
	You ought to come out to the ranch.
	And you say, Ter.
	Ter.
	Ter.
	America.
	We'll come out and hunt some white tail.
	I asked Bill Clint to come shoot some white tail.
	He's like, I love how your expression changes.
	A lot of it is a lot of the facial features.
	If you can get those down.
	You know, and people have asked, what's the most important thing?
	Well, it's like you exaggerate about 20% of what they do.
	Ah.
	You know, in order to hit the mile markers.
	Yeah, and you can really put those.
	Like George Bush, if you can get those eyebrows down and get the little thing on the mouth, you know, you're a...
	I just want to say I'm glad to be here with the Health Ranger.
	I keep my hands out here because I write down things I forget, like where I am, you know.
	So Roy Orbison, I love doing Roy Orbison because, to be honest, I looked like him more than anybody else when I had the dark wig.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it was always a fun show to do.
	Stevie Ray Vaughan, I did Carlos Santana.
	You know, Black Magic Woman.
	Oh, wow.
	You know, so it was a fun gig.
	But now Johnny Cash has a very deep...
	Resonant voice.
	Yeah, that was always a tough one.
	That would seem difficult.
	What played in my favor was I pretty well knew we would sell about 50,000 tickets a year.
	So it was about a quarter of a million people that ended up running through there.
	And I knew they hadn't been listening to Johnny Cash on the way.
	Ah, okay, okay.
	Love is a burning thing, and it makes a fiery ring.
	With Johnny again, it's those little things he would do.
	If it was between a quick line, he would always turn his head to the side.
	Love.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, and you can exaggerate those facial features.
	Now, do you dare touch Elvis?
	I did Elvis.
	I sure did.
	Because I think you could do a great Elvis.
	But he's the king of rock and roll.
	People get all uptight about Elvis.
	I know.
	Yeah, but I did Elvis, and it was always a funny Elvis, and I've got the jumpsuit.
	It was like the 1977 Elvis.
	Oh, it had to be, man.
	Yeah, you've got to have that white jumpsuit with the eagle cape.
	Yeah, right, with the glitter.
	Yeah.
	So that was fun.
	So it was always fun doing these people, and I would do some of the more obscure that almost are outdated, that people may not remember.
	But Jimmy Durante.
	I don't even know who that is.
	Exactly.
	How about this?
	Frosty the Snowman was a happy jolly show.
	That was Jimmy Durante.
	Was it?
	Yeah, Jimmy Durante.
	I mean, I've heard that rendition, but I didn't know.
	Louis Armstrong.
	I did him because a lot of people that came to these shows were from that generation.
	Okay.
	Even though I wasn't, you know.
	Right.
	But they all...
	Hello, Dolly.
	Yes, hello.
	Darling, it's so nice to be back with you where you belong.
	That is great.
	My dog here is loving it too.
	Oh, that is great.
	Well, that's an amazing talent that you have there.
	And I think also it's good cognitive practice to do voices and to hear voices.
	To perform music, any of those things.
	And Maria performed with me.
	She did a lot of the...
	We would do Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand.
	Oh, wow.
	We would do Sonny and Cher.
	Oh, that's great.
	Yeah, we would do really like the intro song for Family Affair.
	I mean, yeah.
	Archie and Bunker.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so we would have the music play.
	We would come out and we would sing the song together.
	All in the family, wasn't it?
	Yeah, and she would do Edith's voice, you know, which is just such...
	Archie!
	Archie!
	So we would do that.
	It was a comedy show.
	We always wrapped up.
	We were always very clean.
	No blue humor or anything.
	I would do Johnny Mathis.
	People loved Johnny Mathis.
	I did John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr.
	I would have songs where all you need is love, Ringo Starr.
	Every line was a different celebrity.
	Yeah, you know, Dwight Yoakam.
	Wow, that's something.
	Jack Nicholson would be in there.
	John Wayne would be in there.
	Wow.
	I did the 12 Days of Christmas every year, and you get up every day as a different celebrity.
	So, yeah.
	That's amazing.
	It was fun.
	Yeah.
	It really was.
	That's a lot of fun.
	Well, thank you for all that you're doing.
	Thank you for being here today, sharing this with us, and for putting up with my questions, which admittedly are pretty off the wall, but I'm a curious guy.
	Yeah.
	Like, I really...
	I like to ask big picture questions about this, but I'm also a value-centric person when it comes to humanity and the teachings of Christ and so on.
	I think you'll agree with me that we want people to be able to live in peace together.
	We don't want to see violence and suffering.
	We want to help bring more people to Christ and to salvation.
	And if we can do that, then we've lived a life worth living.
	Yeah.
	And we're supposed to be a light on the hill.
	We've got to shine the light.
	That's right.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Well said.
	Well, thank you, T.J. Smith.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Appreciate it, Mike.
	We'll be back.
	All right.
	And the website, folks, is tjsmithministries.com or.org.
	And check out his books, The Last Semite and what is this?
	The Church and Homosexuality.
	We didn't even get to talk about that.
	We can do that next time.
	Yeah, cover that next time.
	And what other book is good?
	The other one is...
	It's called Kingdom Come, and it is all of the parables of Jesus from the Gospel of Mark, where he says, the kingdom of God is like, and he lays it out.
	Like mustard seeds and all these other things?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I go through, there's only like nine from the Gospel of Mark.
	So I go through and explain those in a fulfilled sense of how they were fulfilled.
	Oh, interesting.
	It's interesting.
	That's cool.
	And then I've got...
	Six volumes of Understanding the Bible for the Average Christian.
	That's what it's called.
	Volume 1 through 6. That's great.
	And I might take a word or a concept or a story and just kind of break it down for people and say, here's what that meant.
	Very cool.
	Yeah, and it's just some rules for interpretation.
	They call it hermeneutics.
	It's the science of interpretation, which can be used for studying sickness.
	It doesn't matter.
	Aeronautics.
	Everything has rules.
	You do it.
	When you're developing things for nutrition, there's a scientific way that you approach everything and you break it down.
	And you say, if I follow these rules and I apply this principle, then I should come out with this result.
	Well, that's what we have to do with Scripture, too.
	And there's a process.
	So hermeneutics is used throughout the world.
	Aerospace engineering.
	Anything to do with...
	Something that needs to be understood and broke down.
	And it's just not willy-nilly.
	We have, what, 30,000 denominations in Christianity.
	Do we?
	Yeah.
	And a lot of it's because someone didn't like the color of the carpet.
	They wanted the pews back.
	The music's too loud.
	It's not loud enough.
	I want the pastor to wear a robe and not a suit.
	He wore his sister, you know, girl pants, jeans, torn.
	I don't like that.
	So we have a lot of division in the church, but a lot of it's because we don't know how to properly divide Scripture and understand it.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, we have plenty to talk about next time.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, thank you then.
	God bless you, and we really appreciate your time today, and thank all of you for watching today.
	You can find the, well, more interviews at brighttown.com, but I think also this interview, by the way, we're going to do English.
	Captioning of the entire interview.
	We're doing that now this year for the first time.
	That's awesome.
	So people will be able to read it.
	So if you are listening and you know somebody who is hearing impaired, you can recommend this video and they can read along with the captions.
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