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Dec. 18, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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BBN, Dec 18, 2024 – The SUITCASE NUKES threat...
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Alright, welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Wednesday, December 18th, 2024. Mike Adams here.
Thank you, as always, for joining me today.
Now, on this very day, I'm going to be hosting the first two hours of the Alex Jones Show.
And you won't want to miss that.
Hopefully, by the time you hear this, you can still watch that show.
You can find it at Infowars.com or Band.Video.
I'll tell you now who my guests are.
But in case you do missed it, I'm going to be replaying those two hours in my broadcast for you tomorrow, right here at Bright Town Broadcast News.
So, you know, hopefully catch it live.
But if not, I'll replay it for you tomorrow.
And let me tell you what I've got coming up.
This is really going to be amazing.
In the first hour of the show, which begins at 11 a.m.
Central Time...
I'm going to have Jeffrey Prather on for an analysis of the mystery drones.
And I've got, of course, additional information to share about that.
In the bottom of the first hour, or after the bottom, I'm going to have Jason Fick on to talk about the truth about cancer.
Ty and Charlene Bollinger have filed their lawsuit against the censorship industrial complex.
This lawsuit follows our own lawsuit from Brighton Media, which was filed on Memorial Day.
And that's going to be a very powerful segment because the censorship industrial complex is beginning to crumble.
And then in the second hour, this is the big surprise guest for you.
I've got three people coming on.
All at the same time.
I've got Aaron Day, I've got Tracy Thurman, and I've got Roger Veer joining from Spain.
I don't think Roger Veer is going to be able to talk.
He'll be making an appearance, like literally a visual appearance.
I don't think his attorneys are going to allow him to answer questions because he's in the middle of an attempted criminal prosecution against him by the U.S. government.
But we're going to have Aaron Day and Tracy Thurman, who I interviewed in my studio a couple weeks ago.
And Tracy's actually at Roger's Place in Spain right now, and they'll be joining us live on the Alex Jones Show.
That hour is the second hour, which begins at 12 noon Central Time.
So, seriously, you're going to love the show.
You don't want to miss it.
It's also being broadcast live on X, if you just go to X. And I think...
I think if you follow Real Alex Jones or Infowars, either one of those will get you the show, and I'll post a link to it on my X, which is HealthRanger.
Now, in addition to that, coming up, today I have a couple of special reports for you.
One of them is about how 2025 is going to be an amazing year for those who are red-pilled, but a catastrophic year for the gullible and the obedient who are still following directions from false authority.
So if you're wondering, like, is 2025 and 2026, are these going to be great years or horrible years?
Well, both.
Depends on you.
You can choose your own future.
Yeah.
If you want to be awake and aware and alive and get red-pilled and get decentralized, you can have a great 2025 and beyond.
But if you keep doing what the false authorities tell you to do, you know, take the jabs, you know, self-censor, lock yourself down, wear a mask, save your money in dollars, you know, all these stupid things that gullible people do, 2025 is going to suck.
So it's your choice.
I've got a special report about that coming right up.
Now then, about the mystery drones.
There's been a lot of talk.
Of course, you heard my analysis yesterday.
I currently believe, based on current information, that there are two different types of drones.
There's government drones flying around, but the government drones are trying to find the non-government drones, which are exotic technology drones that have stealth capabilities.
For example, they're immune to radar.
They can hide from radar signals somehow, which seems to violate the laws of physics.
And they also seem to be able to hide themselves from spotlights and things like that.
So I think there's two different types of drones flying around.
And of course, we're being lied to, not being told the full story.
But another version of this story, or another analysis, is that these are government drones flying around sniffing for nuclear bombs or dirty bomb material.
I mean, that's actually, I think, the most predominant explanation that people are going with at the moment until we learn more.
Clearly, the government keeps lying to us, like Admiral Kirby.
What a liar that guy is.
And they're all lying to us.
So we have to keep guessing based on what we know, which doesn't really complete the picture.
So we're doing the best we can.
But a lot of people think, well, they're looking for bombs.
And then there's that video that's been making the rounds that I sort of alluded to the other day, but I couldn't recall who was in the video.
It turns out it's John Ferguson, and he's the CEO of Saxon Aerospace.
So I'm going to play some of the video of him speaking here where he was saying there's nuclear material from the former Soviet Union that has been misaccounted for or lost in the U.S. and that these drones might be looking for this nuclear material.
Well, I looked him up.
The website for him is SaxonUnmanned.com and here's his picture and here's his drone, their mission and the story and so on.
Apparently, they make a few products.
They're based out of Kansas.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm looking at their website.
I'm not trying to diss the company or anything, but these drones don't look that good.
Super advanced or anything?
I mean, competent, yes.
But what I'm saying, these don't look like combat drones, or they certainly don't look like the exotic, super fast, super high-speed drones that can go Mach 0.75 like we reported yesterday.
That's not these drones.
Okay, so these are...
You know, these are reconnaissance, maybe military reconnaissance drones is what it looks like.
Not the drones, not the droids you're looking for, right?
Not the drones you're looking for.
Nevertheless, John Ferguson appears to have a lot of experience in this sector, and he had some interesting things to say.
So I'm going to actually play that for you now, some of the video that has been making the rounds.
Here we go.
Back in the 1980s, Ronald Reagan had dismantled the nuclear program and there were, with Russia, there were countless nuclear missiles that were disarmed and disposed of.
Well, there were Over 80, I believe.
There were over 80 nuclear warheads that were in Ukraine that came up missing.
We don't know where they are.
Maybe somebody does, but nobody really knows where these are.
I speak with some pretty high-level government officials on this stuff.
It seems as though that is the case.
I spoke to a gentleman A few months ago, who was trying to raise an alarm to the highest levels of our government, which they had their ears closed, about this one particular nuclear warhead that he physically put his hands on.
He physically touched this warhead that was left over from Ukraine.
And he knew that that thing was headed towards the United States.
Okay?
That is a very serious deal.
And everyone knows that the United States government, this administration, is pushing to get into a war with Russia.
We all know that.
We all feel it.
We all see it.
Okay?
Well, back up a few years.
Do you all remember when those drones were mysteriously flying across the Interstate 70 corridor from Colorado up into Nebraska, down here into Kansas, and out into Missouri?
Well, it was believed that those drones were looking for radioactive material because there had been some material that came up missing here in the United States, and they felt like it was a high probability that the Nuclear or the radioactive material would be taken along the Interstate 70 corridor heading east or west or south.
So, from what we understand, they were out there trying to find this radioactive material.
Now, drones, they have no reason to be in the air at night unless you're doing some type of ISR work.
Intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance.
You know, looking for bad guys.
Or looking for a victim.
A search and rescue victim.
Or law enforcement.
Or some type of military project.
Right?
There's no reason for a drone to be flying at night.
Really.
Okay?
Because they don't see shit.
So, you know, unless you have thermal optics...
Drones really don't see stuff.
You need to do mapping during the day.
If you're going to do farming stuff, mostly do it during the day.
The only reason why you would ever fly an aircraft, an unmanned aircraft at night, is if you're looking for something.
Whether it be a person or trying to smell gas.
We have methane gas detection systems that can...
That can detect gas leaks in pipelines.
You really wouldn't use thermal optics for trying to find gas leaks just simply because the only way you're actually going to find a gas leak with thermal optics is if the gas leak is aggressive enough that it has a difference in temperature.
Because thermal imaging, it creates a digital image based off the temperature variance.
So whatever is different in temperature, it creates an image.
Usually gas leaks so slow that it goes quickly into ambient before you can even see it.
So we have special sensors that can detect gas leaks.
We also have special sensors that can detect radioactive material.
So with this gentleman that I had spoken with who was trying to raise the alarm, To try to get somebody in the government to say, hey, we need to work together to go try to find this nuclear warhead.
None of that ever happened.
They knew that warhead was on its way to the United States.
That's all that ever came of it.
Nothing ever happened.
This government did not do anything at all to help this gentleman raise the alarm and raise awareness that there is a very...
Deadly weapon on its way to the United States.
It's out there.
Nobody knows where it's at now.
It left Europe.
Now it's gone.
Alright, so that's a really interesting take from the CEO of a drone manufacturing company.
And he's very careful to say it's his own opinion.
He doesn't have any inside information.
He doesn't have any leaks from the Pentagon.
He's just saying that in his experience, he believes that these drones are either sniffing gas, which I think is what Admiral John Kirby is doing, or these drones are looking for basically radioactive decay particles that can be detected, alpha, beta, and gamma particles.
So as radioactive material decays, it emits particles, and these particles can be detected if If there's no shielding, if somebody had like a lead shield, a lead suitcase or lead coffin or something around the nuke, then the decaying particles would be very unlikely to go through the lead shielding depending on the thickness of it.
But without special shielding, these particles can be, you know, detected with very sensitive equipment.
And that's apparently what's on some of these drones.
So hearing that got me thinking.
And it reminded me that a year ago, I mean, this, I should have remembered this sooner.
But a year ago, I interviewed Stan Johnson from the Prophecy Club.
And the title of that interview, which is on Brighteon.com and Rumble and other platforms, is Stan Johnson of Prophecy Club reveals the terrifying prophetic warnings of suitcase nukes detonating in U.S. cities.
And In that interview, and I'm going to play, I don't know, four, four and a half minutes, something for you here.
He says that there was a, let's see, that a Russian defector that made a DVD with the Prophecy Club was part of a team that was sent from the Soviets to try to find the locations to hide 50 suitcase nuclear bombs around the USA. So it's interesting that John Ferguson of Saxon was saying that there were 80-something nukes that,
I believe he said, went missing after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. Well, Stan Johnson interviewed a defector from Russia who says there are 50 nukes that have been somehow smuggled into the U.S. I guess it wouldn't be difficult with the open borders, you know?
They just walk it across.
And apparently there are...
Potentially up to 50 nukes, or suitcase nukes as they're called, that are hidden somewhere around America, or at least this is what Stan is explaining, and perhaps that's what these drones are looking for, maybe?
That's one theory.
Personally, I'm not even sure that these suitcase nukes would still work all these years later.
I have no idea.
I guess you'd have to be a suitcase nuke engineer to be able to answer that question.
But let's listen to Stan Johnson explain this, and this clip I'm about to play for you, again, it's only about four and a half minutes, this is from one year ago, so December 2023. Check it out.
Stan, give us, if you would please, I know we have a lot to talk about.
We'll have you back to talk about oil, but your topic today is suitcase nukes and events, chaos events that could strike the United States.
You want to give us a quick overview of that, and then we'll get into some questions?
Okay.
Well, in 1998, Prophecy Club, we were putting people on speaking tours in those days to 30 or 40 cities a month.
About 5,000 people a month were attending our meetings.
Nowhere around 1998, we put Stanislav Lunev on a speaking tour.
At the time, he was the highest-ranking Russian military officer ever to defect from Russia.
He made a Prophecy Club DVD called Russian Defector Warns America.
You can watch this DVD instantly at watchprophecyclub.com.
He says that he was part of a team sent from the Soviets to find locations to hide 50, quote, lost in Russia suitcase nuclear bombs lost back in the 1980s to be smuggled into the U.S. Well, that's one person.
Bible says in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let a thing be established.
Then, May 5th of 2003, Michael Boldea, grandson of Demetri Dudeman, had a dream.
He was shown suitcase nukes going off in California, Illinois, Michigan, Arizona, Washington State, Florida, and New York.
He says, I saw an outline of a map of America.
It outlines the states taking shape.
I saw small lights begin to flicker on and off in some of the states, California, Illinois, Michigan, Arizona, Washington State, Florida, and New York.
The light was rhythmic.
And he said, I don't understand.
What does this mean?
He said, these are the places where those who are sent here long ago to bring fear and chaos have situated themselves.
They lie in wait, planning and plotting destruction as coiled serpents, looking for the hour they'll be loosed on this nation.
Then October 15, 2004, he had another dream called Eagle and the Serpents.
And he was shown that there's three attacks on the eagle that would be coming.
The first one was 9-11.
The second one will be much, much worse, and it will come from an unexpected place.
And the third one would be her destruction.
There's more on that, but I've got so much I'm going to keep moving.
January 9, 2005. I had a dream.
I would ask the Lord, what is the next 9-11?
And I was shown that there's a series of sophisticated bombs by sophisticated experts By international bankers will be planted in several cities, with one going off and hitting a regional bank, destroying the records and their backups, which would put billions of dollars into the hands of the international bankers.
I'm going to keep moving.
2005, Congressman Kurt Weldon, Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, uncovered a plot to set explosives in 10 cities.
He couldn't get the authorities to act, so he wrote a book called Countdown to Terror.
This is a copy of the book.
Wait, what year was that published again?
That was 2005. Okay.
The 10 cities were Valdez, Alaska, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Boston, New York, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.
Then in 2013, we had Doug Metzger in.
He made a DVD called Will You Survive America's Fall, also available at WatchProphecyClub.com.
In which he reports, he was shown a vision of suitcase nukes hitting Los Angeles, New York, Las Vegas, Washington, D.C., Chicago, San Francisco, Houston, Seattle, Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, and Denver.
Dennis Augusto Perez had a vision.
I was watching TV, he said.
When I started to see the TV screen, very large explosions taking place in major cities across America, many people died from the explosions.
Then, let me skip on to the next one.
Then Vicki Parnell, 16 of 22, had a short vision.
I heard hypersonic thermal nuclear warhead.
I kept hearing it over and over.
I never heard it before except this.
I began seeing a vision of eight black suitcases.
This is what the suitcases looked like.
She shows a drawing.
Then I heard, quote, eight suitcases, eight bombs and suitcases hidden in America to be detonated, and that was all.
All right, so there you go.
That's what Stan Johnson was saying, and he even named the ten cities where these nukes were supposed to, or at least there was a, I think in this case he was talking about a prophecy or a vision that some people have had.
I mean, understand that what Stan does at the Prophecy Club is he kind of compiles and aggregates prophetic visions or dreams that And then he compiles them and compares them and tries to put out the common threads, the common elements of the prophecies.
They're not always right.
Of course, you know, prophecies are, I mean, I suppose anybody can have a dream, but what Stan is saying is that sometimes when the dreams line up or when God speaks to someone and it's a very powerful spiritual event, well, you know, that has special consideration.
So what Stan is saying is that the 10 cities are Valdez, Alaska, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Boston, New York, and Washington, D.C. Now, remember that these drones are flying around New York right now and New Jersey.
Last year and in 2021, they were flying around Washington, D.C. He mentions Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, and Houston also.
So let's see, what else?
Then next, he mentions Seattle, Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, and Denver.
So, I mean, those are in two separate sentences, but the point is, he believes that some people have been given prophetic visions or dreams or the word from God that there are suitcase nukes hidden across America.
All right.
So is that what's going on?
I don't know.
Like you, I don't know.
Should you panic and leave the city if you live in one of these cities?
I'm not saying that.
I'm not trying to turn this into a Larry David episode.
There's a rumor there's going to be a nuke in Los Angeles.
Everybody leave.
Remember that episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm?
And, of course, the nuke did not go off, and everybody got mad at Larry for warning them.
So this is one of those situations where, like Hal Turner said yesterday, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
Honestly, folks, we don't have the answers yet.
I don't know if these suitcase nukes exist in these cities.
I don't even know if they work.
I don't know if there's one nuke, 50 nukes, 80 nukes.
I have no idea.
So, let's look it up.
So, here we go.
I'm asking an AI engine, what's the estimated yield of the suitcase nukes that went missing from the fall of the Soviet Union?
And here's what it tells me.
And you can run these searches yourself on Grok, if you wish, or other language models.
It says that Alexander Lebed, a former Soviet general, claimed in 1997 that That the Soviet Union had created around 250 suitcase-sized portable nuclear weapons similar to the United States B-54 with a maximum explosive yield of less than one kiloton.
So, you know, a kiloton is equivalent to a thousand tons of TNT. So these are less than one kiloton.
Now, remember that the Hiroshima atomic bomb was estimated at an energy release of around 15 kilotons or 15 or 16 kilotons, something in that range.
So these suitcase nukes would be a fraction of the Hiroshima or Nagasaki explosions.
Additionally, these suitcase nukes, if they were to explode, they would explode probably at ground level, unless somebody put it on the roof of a skyscraper or something.
At ground level, it would do less overall damage because the dispersion of energy and of radioactive material would not be as great as if it were at some elevation.
And I remember hearing this in, I think it was Annie Jacobson's book, but the military has calculated like the ideal altitude of detonating a nuclear weapon over a city, and I think it was like three kilometers or something.
So...
Unless somebody, like, throws a suitcase nuke out of a Cessna or something, I don't know how they would get it at that altitude.
So even if there is a suitcase nuke, it would probably be detonated at ground level.
Now, still, you know, a thousand tons of TNT is not some small thing.
That's a big bada boom right there for sure.
How much damage would that do?
I mean, gosh, you know, depends on the construction materials and density of the buildings nearby, etc.
But let's just say you don't want to be standing anywhere near that within a radius of several city blocks, okay?
Let's just put it that way.
And plus, then there's the fallout, you know?
You don't want to be near that.
But continuing with the answer from the language model here, Alexey Yablokov, A former environmental advisor to Boris Yeltsin corroborated Lebed's claims and stated that 700 such devices called, quote, nuclear mines existed in the Soviet Union.
But then later on, Russian officials denied the existence of nuclear suitcases but did not rule out the possibility of smaller nuclear devices designed for special forces.
Stanislav Lunev, a former GRU officer who defected to the United States, claimed that these Russian-made devices exist and described them in more detail.
So, I mean, there you go.
That's what we know.
Okay, so if these suitcase nukes exist, if they're even still viable, if It's possible they could have been distributed around the cities, but even if they detonate, they're not going to destroy an entire city.
A thousand tons of TNT equivalent, again, it's not a small thing, but it's also not going to blow away New York City.
It'll do extensive damage to a couple city blocks.
I'm just guessing, but maybe a radius of...
Three to four city blocks from the detonation point.
There could be extensive damage to buildings and structures and, of course, people.
You wouldn't want to be anywhere near that.
But this isn't going to wipe out the whole city.
Now, that reminded me of something else.
I mean, the memory is just getting triggered about all kinds of things that are leading up to this.
It was 2022. In the summer that New York City released a video guide for how to survive a nuclear blast.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, it was a couple years ago.
So I'm going to play that video for you.
It's bizarre.
It was bizarre then.
I remember talking about it.
I remember Alex Jones talking about this.
We were all talking about this video and And, you know, we were like, what?
Why is New York City releasing this video?
Well, I'm going to play it for you now.
Check this out.
So there's been a nuclear attack.
Don't ask me how or why, just know that the big one has hit, okay?
So what do we do?
There are three important steps that I want you to remember.
Step one, get inside fast.
You, your friends, your family, get inside.
And no, staying in the car is not an option.
You need to get into a building and move away from the windows.
Step 2. Stay inside.
Shut all doors and windows.
Have a basement?
Head there.
If you don't have one, get as far into the middle of the building as possible.
If you were outside after the blast, get clean immediately.
Remove and bag all outer clothing to keep radioactive dust or ash away from your body.
Step 3. Stay tuned.
Follow media for more information.
Don't forget to sign up for Notify NYC for official alerts and updates.
And don't go outside until officials say it's safe.
Alright?
you've got this all right Does that give you confidence?
Basically, if there's a nuke, get naked.
Take off all your clothes and rush inside.
And then wait for the government to tell you what to do next.
Oh, yeah.
When this video was put out in 2022, a lot of us were scratching our heads and thinking, what?
Why now?
Why are they putting out a nuclear preparedness video now?
Are they expecting a nuclear blast to hit the city?
Maybe so.
Maybe so.
There's a lot of people who think that what is about to happen here is part of a continuity of government operation.
In fact, Jeffrey Prather has that analysis on his website, jeffreyprather.com, and he'll be one of my guests on the Alex Jones Show today.
He believes that there's a COG type of coup operation, or at least the potential for one, that is shaping up here.
And there's going to be some kind of a big emergency where they have to invoke COG plans.
And then, oh, what do you know?
Trump's inauguration is canceled.
You know, something like that, possibly.
It sounds crazy, but the deep state's dangerous.
And they're desperate.
They know a lot of them are going to jail.
And how many weeks is it before Trump is sworn in now?
Just four weeks, a little over four weeks away.
So some of these people don't have long before they go to jail, or at least they get criminally charged.
So, you know, the clock is ticking and they are at a point of sheer desperation.
Now, don't take any of this as any attempt on my part to cause you to panic or whatever.
I'm just laying out for you data points.
And, you know, I've said that you shouldn't live in these cities anyway.
I've been saying that for years.
So You know, most of you listening to this probably do not live in any of these cities.
And if you do live in one of these cities, I'm not at all saying that this drone incident should be a reason to panic in a bug-out vehicle and head out of town.
That's not what I'm saying.
Even if these suitcase nukes exist, again, they're not going to devastate the entire city.
Let's hope they don't exist, or let's hope they don't work, or let's hope that they can be found.
Actually, let's hope that's not even the scenario.
There are different possibilities here.
None of us know really what's happening.
We're trying to piece together this puzzle based off the best information we have, and we know the government's lying to us.
We know they're withholding information.
So To some extent, you know, we're operating on really partial pictures here.
So this could change tomorrow.
We might have new information that comes out tomorrow.
There might be a government admission tomorrow or the next day.
Maybe one of these drones, these mystery drones, falls out of the sky.
And then we get a picture of it, you know, and it's like, whoa, that's not from Earth or whatever, you know.
There could be all kinds of interesting outcomes to this.
So Don't freak out, but do get prepared.
Being prepared is important.
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Obviously, make sure you've got a few days at least of food supplies.
Make sure you've got emergency power systems, maybe a solar generator, a battery backup system, flashlights and iodine, obviously.
You don't want to go into 2025 without a supply of iodine.
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I'd have to check.
But we've got a lot of specials there for you for Christmas.
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That's just, you know, we call it Christmas, so that's the term that we use right there.
Because, you know, if I create a shortcut that's like healthracistore.com slash Rosh Hashan, then nobody knows how to spell that.
Or even Hanukkah.
Like, most people don't know how to spell Hanukkah.
Heck, the drone guy, the video we played earlier, he didn't even know how to pronounce the word nuclear.
I mean, come on, you know.
We live in a really funny culture.
Oh, I forgot to mention today's interview is going to be with Michael Yan.
Just recorded a fresh interview with Michael.
But you know what I'm going to do here?
Is I am going to also, at the end of that interview, I'm going to play the full interview with Stan Johnson from the Prophecy Club from one year ago.
That's about a one-hour interview as well about the suitcase nukes.
In case you want to see that interview, I'm going to attach it here.
So here's what's next.
I've got the special report about what's coming in 2025. I've got the interview with Michael Yan, just filmed.
Oh boy, that's an hour and a half.
That takes us to two hours.
And then I've got Stan Johnson of Prophecy Club from one year ago.
So that takes us to three hours.
So that's a three-hour show today.
You know.
Just take in whatever works for you.
Not everybody's got three hours to listen to all this, but it's relevant right now, so that's why I'm going to put it all together.
Alright?
So...
Let's just get to the special report.
Thank you for listening.
Be sure to check my appearance on the Alex Jones show.
That's Infowars.com.
And again, the special guests I have are Jeffrey Prather, Jason Fick about the censorship lawsuit situation or the censorship industrial complex.
And then I've got Aaron Day, Tracy Thurman, and Roger Veer, Bitcoin Jesus, as he's known in the second hour.
And that second hour begins at 12 noon central at InfoWars.com.
So, tune in, spread the word.
Should be a really interesting day, and I'll be back with you again tomorrow.
God bless you all.
Enjoy the rest of today's show.
Welcome to the special update for Decentralized TV.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Decentralized TV, and my co-host Todd Pitner normally joins me on the episodes and will again soon, but I'm recording this separately just as audio with an update for the outlook for 2025. These are my views, but they're views based on conversations with some very in-the-know people, high-level people in the crypto industry,
the builders, the people who are building the future of this industry.
And as you know, I've interviewed, you know, Lots of them.
And so I keep in touch and I haven't talked about crypto for a while until this recent Bitcoin, I don't know what you call it, the FOMO craze just came up on the radar.
Everybody got excited about Bitcoin hitting 100k.
But then the book Hijacking Bitcoin came out, and that's by Roger Ver, who's facing 109 years in prison.
He's being extradited from the country of Spain by the U.S. government that's involved in this absurd, ridiculous prosecution of him because Roger Ver is an advocate of freedom.
Freedom from CBDCs and Roger Ver in his book, Hijacking Bitcoin, which has become the number one book in numerous categories on Amazon.
This book talks about how Bitcoin has been taken over by centralized controllers that want to keep the blockchain size artificially small.
Which really prohibits Bitcoin from ever being used for day-to-day transactions.
Bitcoin has moved into an institutional phase now.
You've seen, I mean, Trump and his people are talking about Bitcoin.
I saw, I think, Eric Trump talking about how he thought Bitcoin would go to a million.
And, of course, Bitcoin ETFs have been launched, and so now a lot of people are buying Well, I can't really say they're buying Bitcoin.
They're buying proxies for Bitcoin.
They think they own Bitcoin, but they don't.
Because if you don't have self-custody, you don't own it.
That's the whole point of Satoshi's original vision was that everyday people, individuals, should have custody and control over their money, and they should be able to trade with each other and exchange value without permission from anyone else.
Well, if you buy Bitcoin through Fidelity, then you need Fidelity's permission to sell it, buy it, withdraw it, move it, exchange it, right?
So now Bitcoin, under the institutionalized version of what it has become, no longer fulfills really anything of the original vision, which was supposed to be Very low cost, you know, super affordable peer-to-peer transactions with self-custody completely decentralized away from the financial institutions.
Unfortunately, Bitcoin has not become any of those things.
Whereas Bitcoin Cash, which was a very contentious fork of Bitcoin, actually does fulfill many of those things, if not all of them.
So, who knows?
Bitcoin Cash might actually one day become more successful than the current version of Bitcoin.
Possibly.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't own any Bitcoin Cash.
I do hold some Bitcoin, just for full disclosure.
I hold some Bitcoin...
I'm nervous about where Bitcoin is going.
Let me give you my analysis, okay?
And it's fine if you agree or disagree, but I'll tell you what I think I know.
And this is not just about Bitcoin.
This is about privacy coins.
I'm going to talk about some projects that I'm aware of that are going to be launched in 2025, which I believe to be significant.
But Bitcoin, in my opinion, is going to pump.
It's going to pump big time.
Eric Trump might be right.
It might go to a million.
Who knows?
But Bitcoin has become just a proxy for speculation.
It's not really useful in the day-to-day world, unfortunately.
So what is Bitcoin really?
If you're buying Bitcoin, what are you buying?
You're buying into, honestly, it's just become digital tulip bulb mania at this point.
You're buying something just because you think the price is going to go higher in the future.
There's no other reason.
It's not like you can ever use it for anything.
Bitcoin has abandoned that.
There are other cryptos that are far better at usefulness.
Like Monero is used for more trades and exchanges and purchases.
Well, I mean, at least among those who value privacy, which is going to be a big deal.
So the big trends for 2025, in my view, are number one, privacy coins.
We're going to see the rise of numerous privacy coins and privacy coin projects that Aaron Day talks about Zeno, and I will mention that, but I also am aware that Firo with Ruben, Ruben Yap, Firo is about to roll out some new innovations, and also I believe Monero is working on some new...
Well, I know they are.
I don't know when they're going to roll them out, but...
Monero is going to upgrade its privacy in a substantial way, which is needed.
Actually, the ring transactions structure of Monero is a little bit outdated.
It actually has been outdated for a couple of years.
Still works.
Still a great coin.
And I prefer to buy Monero over Bitcoin, believe me, just because I don't want everything tracked.
You know, Bitcoin is a surveillance coin.
But Monero needs a major upgrade in terms of its privacy tech, and that's underway.
So privacy coins, that's a major trend for 2025. And then on top of that, the really big trend is e-commerce powered by crypto.
So when I say e-commerce powered by crypto, I mean that some innovative people, one of whom is my co-host, Todd Bittner, are putting together e-commerce solutions based on privacy crypto.
So let me tell you about three things that are on my radar right now.
As I mentioned, my co-host Todd Pitner, he's got a background with Epic Cash, and he knows all the Epic Cash people and developers and project leaders and everything, and they put together something called NowDeals.
And I think maybe the website is nowdeals.com or.org.
You can search for it, nowdeals.
And nowdeals allows people to buy and sell using Epic Cash, which is a privacy crypto on the Mimblewimble blockchain.
Now, as of right now, I haven't gone in and used that site yet, but Todd told me about it and I wanted to mention it here because that's something to check out.
I do believe e-commerce is going to be an exploding use case area for crypto.
The second thing that's on my radar, because of course Bastion.com, that's B-A-S-T-Y-O-N, I interviewed and I know one of the project leaders there, Daniel, is his name.
We use the Bastion Infrastructure to build Brighteon.io, which is a decentralized blockchain-driven social media network where censorship is impossible and it has no central servers.
And if you use the app, it bypasses domain name resolution.
So you don't even need domain names to work in order to use Bastion.
This is why everybody loves it.
Because when they were thinking that the Biden administration was going to throw the internet kill switch, shut off domain names, well, the Brighton.io app, which is the same as the Bastion app, would continue to work.
So we've been running Brighton.io for, I don't know, a year and a half now, and the traffic there is now at its record high.
It has never been higher.
Well, Daniel and his team rolled out something called Barteron, B-A-R-T-E-R-O-N, Barteron, which is supported inside the Bastion app.
And if you just want to see it real quickly in your browser, go to barteron.club.
I know,.club.
And that will bring up the Barteron system, and you can see what it is.
Now, it's been announced...
I mean, it's an international platform where you can buy and sell goods using the currency of the Bastion ecosystem, which is P-Coin.
P-Coin is a clone of Bitcoin.
It's basically just Bitcoin for the Bastion ecosystem or the Brighteon ecosystem.
But because of Barteron, which has been launched in Russia and other European countries, and it's about to go big in the USA next year, and we're going to start offering goods on Barteron, this is a marketplace.
Where people can have listings and they can buy and sell and trade.
It's kind of like a, you could say like a, I don't know, a Craigslist type of marketplace where the currency is Pcoin.
So just like Todd Pitner has now deals where the currency is Epic Cash, Daniel and his team at Bastion have Barteron, where the currency is P-Coin, which stands for pocket coin.
That's the coin that powers the Bastion ecosystem.
And currently you can use P-Coin to buy essentially advertising or to boost your posts on Brighteon.io or Bastion.com, which is the same engine.
But now P-Coin is going to be able to be used to purchase goods.
So that's going to add this e-commerce component to this coin, which has been, it has had relatively limited use until now.
But see, these are the practical things, like Todd's project and Daniel's project, these are the practical things that Bitcoin can't do.
You know, Bitcoin has just become a store of value, you could say, or really just a speculation engine.
But no one's going to use Bitcoin to buy small items because Bitcoin, you know, the block size is too small so the transaction cost is too high and it's too slow also on top of that.
So, everyday e-commerce is going to fall to these other coins that tend to be privacy-oriented, although Pcoin is basically a clone of Bitcoin.
But then there's a third technology that's coming online in 2025 that's really exciting that Aaron Day introduced me to.
Now, Aaron Day is a friend of Roger Ver, the co-author of Hijacking Bitcoin.
And Aaron Day, in an interview that Todd and I were doing with Aaron just recently, I published it Monday, Aaron Day just out of the blue, he says that he met with the Xano team and that he's really impressed with Xano and that he's going to launch a gold-backed Crypto, really a token on top of Xano, that is tied to physical gold and silver that's vaulted, or maybe it's just gold.
He calls it karma, but it's spelled in an odd way.
There's a U in there somewhere.
I'm going to have to figure out how he spells it.
But I'll ask Aaron about this more, because what Aaron is building is a privacy token, because the entire Xano blockchain is a privacy blockchain, that eliminates the price risk associated with Bitcoin or any other coins.
You know, even Epic Cash or Ethereum or whatever, Solano, whatever.
They all have a lot of price risk because they're not tied to anything physical.
Well, Aaron Day's project called Karma, which is just, I mean, I did chat with him a little bit about this, and I asked him, like, is this going to work the way I think it is, where people deposit gold, and then, like, in an approved vault, and then when that's audited, then they are issued the appropriate number of tokens that represent perhaps one token is one gram of gold, let's say.
And then if they ever take gold out of the vault, then they have to submit and burn or destroy the tokens.
So basically the tokens are exchangeable for physical gold.
And Aaron said, yes, that's exactly how it's going to work.
And I said, that's awesome, because as a merchant, if I'm going to get paid in crypto, I want to make sure that I can get paid in something that doesn't have a lot of price volatility risk as a merchant.
Because I probably need to convert that token into fiat in order to pay my vendors and employee salaries and whatever, you know, electricity bills, all of which are paid in fiat.
So I don't want to get paid in Bitcoin and then think a day later it might plunge 50% or whatever, you know.
I want to get paid in something that's tied to gold.
Because gold is stable and positive.
You know, gold keeps going up compared to dollars.
But because gold is physical, it's not going to plunge like 50% in one day.
That's not going to happen.
So that conversation or that chat conversation with Aaron got me looking at Zeno.
And then I realized that Todd and I had interviewed one of the key leaders of Zeno back last year.
And I didn't really...
Honestly, I didn't think much about it because I just flatly did not fully understand Zeno at the time.
And in the last year...
Zeno did some kind of a really amazing hard fork where they introduced these new features, and one of them is called the Confidential Layer Privacy Wrapper.
So apparently, and you can read about this, it's a separate project called ConfidentialLayer.com.
ConfidentialLayer.com works with privacy coins like Zeno.
I think they're going to work with Firo, probably with Monero.
Who knows?
Confidential Layer allows you to take Bitcoins, which are not confidential, not private, and wrap them inside a coin like Zeno.
And then you can move the Zeno-wrapped Bitcoin around.
Incomplete privacy.
So you can spend it, you can send it, you can sell it, you know, whatever.
And it's completely untrackable.
And then at the end of that, somebody can remove the wrapper and expose Bitcoin.
And so what Zeno has actually built is a technology to make Bitcoin private, which is kind of the holy grail of, you know, what's lacking in Bitcoin.
Bitcoin lacks privacy.
And so does Pcoin, which powers Bastion and Brighton.io.
So with Zeno and confidential layer, again, you can wrap up Bitcoin, you can wrap up other coins in a privacy layer so that nobody knows what you're doing with it.
So now this is a measure of utility that is really exciting because there's gonna be a moment, I would imagine, where Bitcoin holders realize, oh my God, I should have self-custody of my Bitcoin and I should figure out a way to make this private so that I don't get tracked on everything I'm doing with it.
Well, so now we have a high utility use case for Zeno, this privacy wrapper, and it's got a very rapid block time of one minute.
It's got a hybrid combination of proof of work and proof of stake for its consensus algorithms.
It's got incredibly advanced Privacy algorithms.
In fact, the white paper that was published by the lead developer for Zeno, I talked to a high-level guy in crypto who said he read that white paper and he was brought to tears by the brilliance and the beauty of the math.
Like, wow, that's a really geeky thing to say, but it shows you the power The genius of the people behind Zeno, their math is so freaking beautiful, it makes other people cry.
It's like, wow, I don't even know enough cryptography math to be brought to tears over that.
But for the people who know what this is, they're just blown away.
So the outlook then, in summary, 2025 is going to be a year of privacy coins rising and e-commerce use cases rising.
And with this confidential layer protocol, you're going to see privacy wrappers start to become more commonplace for non-privacy coins like Bitcoin.
Now obviously this is going to drive the governments completely insane because they always want total control, total surveillance, what have you.
So you're probably never going to see these privacy coins on Coinbase or the government controlled exchanges.
And it's pretty clear the Trump administration is going to want to drive everybody into Bitcoin only.
And they're going to do a big pump on Bitcoin, probably lasting one to two years is my guess.
Eventually there'll be a big rug pull, probably, on Bitcoin.
But for the next while, big pump.
And this pump is going to be significant.
Trump and his team and his people are going to pump like crazy.
And everybody's going to think they're getting rich on Bitcoin.
And that's just, that's, you know, tulip bulb mania.
Yeah, everybody thinks they're getting rich for a while until it ends.
And then at that point, it's like, oh, well, so much for the tulip bulbs.
I guess they weren't worth a hundred grand each.
They're just tulips, you know?
That's some interesting history.
But crypto will succeed because of the use cases.
Using it for e-commerce, using it for gifts, using it for donations, using the privacy features of it, using it for transactions that banks don't want to handle.
Like maybe you want to buy like a hemp extract.
It's still legal.
Let's say it's even THC free, but it's got cannabinoids in it, you know, cannabidiolic acid.
Well, most banks don't want to handle that.
Merchant accounts don't want to handle that.
They consider that high risk.
So, you know, crypto is going to be really useful for buying things that the establishment is trying to shut down.
That might even include ammunition or firearms at some point, you know?
So just be mindful of this entire trend here.
Because crypto is not going away, and you're actually going to see a lot more people moving off the exchanges, I believe, and learning about privacy crypto, learning about self-custody, and using unified swap services, like Uniswap is one of them, or using atomic swaps, using non-custodial swaps.
Or buying and selling their own coins on non-KYC trading platforms that exist, that are out there.
I don't think I'm going to name them, but they're out there.
Look, the bottom line is things are about to change dramatically for crypto in 2025 and for e-commerce using crypto.
And we're big advocates of this space, so we'll participate probably in multiple systems with multiple coins.
But I tend to favor privacy coins because I believe that privacy is a fundamental human right.
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we're joined by one of our fan favorite guests, Michael Yon, the internationally recognized war correspondent.
He was the very first person, really, to bring mainstream attention to the Darien Gap invasion problem, where America is being invaded, and he joins us today for an in-depth discussion of many topics, including the invasion of America.
Welcome, Michael.
It's great to have you on the show today.
Thanks for having me on.
And now I'm in Argentina still and watching the world go by here.
It's quite interesting.
I see the Chinese are moving in really hard into...
I'm sorry, I'm not in Venezuela.
I'm in Argentina.
And so there's something ringing in my ears.
That's why I was slightly distracted.
And right as we started going on, somehow a call is coming in.
I don't know how it's actually doing it because everything's turned off.
But anyway, the wonders of technology.
You're being hit with a projection skull-piercing audio weapon system is what's happening right now.
Yeah, just like as soon as we started, somehow a magical call comes in when everything's turned off.
Watch for drones outside your window, too, right now, just to be sure.
Okay, so, well, it's great.
I mean, you're in the same time zone that we are right now.
That's unusual for you.
You're usually hanging out in Japan these days, it seems.
Yeah, almost the same time zone.
It's actually 522 here, so I'm way east.
East.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Actually, you know, the most western part of South America is east of Florida.
Wow.
Like, we don't think of it that way, but you're right.
That's interesting.
In any case, so we started out talking about the Darien Gap.
You brought a lot of attention to that.
Let me ask for your reaction.
Originally during the campaign, Trump and his team were talking very tough.
Like, we're going to deport everybody.
The Dreamers are going to go.
We're going to deport 10 million people.
And then in the last day or two, we're starting to see a little bit of backing off of that.
Even from Trump himself, who I believe is saying, well, we're mostly going to focus on deporting the violent people.
The dreamers aren't going to go.
And the question to you is, what do you think the Trump administration is actually going to do versus the talk?
Well, I know everybody who's followed my work for many years, if they followed it for many years, they know I have a really good track record on accuracy on predicting what People will do, especially when I name their names like General McChrystal or General Menard or...
Anyway, so setting the table with that, with Trump, I think he will commit treason.
That's the bottom line.
I've said it from the beginning.
In 2016, when Newt Gingrich first reached out to me asking for support for Trump, I'm like, don't you have somebody else?
I'm not going to vote for a Clinton...
I'm not going to vote for an Obama or any of those sorts of people, but I want somebody that I can trust and I don't trust him.
And if he's very serious about closing the border, I and everybody in my ecosystem will stop everything we're doing to help.
And we already are.
But the bottom line is, is if he's dead serious about closing this down, Instead of putting out fires, he's going to put out arsonists, right?
You got to stop the arsonists before you fight fires, fight the arsonists, right?
And the big arsonist here is the UN and the IOM, which is part of the United Nations, UNHCR, United Nations.
Go after HIAS, HIAS.org, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.
Of course, Trump is a Zionist, so I'm not sure if he would actually go a bridge that far.
But the bottom line is, I don't see him doing this.
I want him to do it.
He can do it.
Will he do it?
Trump pushed the jab.
Trump pushed Amendment 3, which is allowing dope dispensaries all over Florida and that sort of thing.
He's pushing Bitcoin now as a reserve.
I mean, you can't even make up this stuff.
Eric Trump was just over in Dubai pushing Bitcoin, saying he thinks it'll go to a million dollars a coin, which it may.
It may actually do it.
I saw that.
Yeah, I watched the whole video.
It may actually do that.
By the way, I found that I first got Bitcoin in about 2013. I don't know much about it still, even though I've just finished reading a book on it and started another.
I still...
What I see it as is a cheese, right?
It was meant for one thing, or it was sold to be meant for one thing, which is economic freedom from the fiat and from the banks, which is a great—I mean, that's what we want, right?
We all want that.
Anybody with common sense wants that, unless you're the banker.
But— That's a cheese, right?
There's so many cheeses for so many traps, and this is a cheese.
And remember, greed is also a self-baiting trap, and now they're counting on greed and the ultimate Ponzi scheme ever Pumping, people are recommending people sell their gold and silver and mortgage their homes to buy Bitcoin.
That's utterly insane.
Michael Saylor is saying the government should sell all its gold and buy Bitcoin, which seems like the dumbest idea ever, but of course it would benefit and enrich Michael Saylor and his company MicroStrategies.
But let's back up for a second here.
I do want to talk to you about crypto.
But first, you know, you use the word treason with Trump about illegal immigration.
You think he'll commit treason.
Now, I do.
Homan, who Trump has appointed to be the border czar, he seems like a very serious guy who really wants to deport millions of illegals.
And of course, when I think of treason, I think of Alejandro Mayorkas as...
That's straight up treason.
That's straight up treason, right?
But I'm not sure...
I want you to further explore this.
I'm not sure that treason...
If Trump does nothing, is that treason?
If he goes back on his promises and does nothing, then we're screwed as a country, right?
Because we are being invaded, and these invaders may activate against us here one day.
But is it really treason if he just continues the status quo?
I guess it is technically still treason.
Yeah, it's treason by omission in a sense, right?
And listen, he did push the death jab, period, full stop, right?
He's never backed off of it, period.
That in and of itself, that is treason per se.
That is absolutely, that is causing unknown amounts of death.
And he still sticks with it.
Now people say, well, don't you understand?
He was fooled by Fauci.
Okay, whatever.
Okay, you're going to give him a pat.
This is big boy world, right?
This is big boy world.
You would not give your 747 pilot a second chance for flying at, you know, 10,000 feet among 20,000 foot peaks at nighttime with no radar, right?
You know what I mean?
I mean, you're not going to get a second chance.
You're fired.
Right?
I don't care.
Right?
And people say, well, who did you want?
Kamala?
Of course, this is the red pill, blue pill.
Take the red pill or the blue pill?
Why would I take a pill from somebody I don't know?
You're giving us a choice, a false choice, because weak people will accept The choice they think is the right choice.
Instead of saying, I will take neither, I will write something else in.
I will vote.
How about down there in Texas where you're at?
And I'm at very often.
I love Texas.
But look at Abbott.
Abbott is World Economic Forum.
Full stop.
I was saying that over and over and over when he was running against Beto and people kept saying, who do you want?
Beto?
Obviously, I don't want Beto.
But Beto is run.
Beto is...
Something that a dog left on the sidewalk, they put the dog left on the sidewalk there so that you'll vote for the ice cream cone left on the sidewalk.
You know what I mean?
They're both poisoned.
At the end of the day, they're both there for you to take one.
They're pushing you into...
Whichever one you take, they're going to be happy, right?
If the elections are even legit, I do not know.
But the bottom line is...
What do I think he'll do?
You know, as somebody who used to hunt alligators as a child and rabbits and that sort of thing, I know that they're creatures of habit just like we are, right?
And history is the greatest judge of what comes next.
Judging by Trump's actions, he will sell us out.
I hope he does not.
Homan, I know some of my friends give him the highest regards, and I hope he's legit.
I hope he's legit.
But nobody is walking in the door without being tested.
Nobody is going to be given a pass.
I mean, you've got to prove that you're actually going to start deporting, and that means closing the United Nations in the United States.
Stop funding them and get rid of them.
That's the arsonist.
They've got a huge office space down in Ciudad de Samaria in Panama City.
There's over 60 NGOs and IGOs.
And non-profits that are in there that are running these invasions, that's our U.S. Army South headquarters in the past at Fort Clayton.
Fort Clayton used to be our U.S. Army South headquarters.
Now it's all the NGO headquarters.
They fly their flag up there.
I'm there all the time.
It's right next to the Panama Canal, right next to Miraflores Locks, right?
I mean, they have taken this.
We have to shut them down.
We have to go for the arsonists.
It sounds like you're saying this is the key litmus test for Trump.
If he's legit, he's going to shut down this invasion, he's going to shut down these NGOs that are...
But look, he has threatened huge tariffs against Mexico if they don't stop the illegal invasion.
I think a 25% tariff on all exports out of Mexico.
Doesn't that show that he means business in some way about halting the flow?
Not at all.
It's bulls**t.
I mean, what about Canada?
I mean, what about the people coming in on student visas or the people coming in through Bahamas, right?
The invasions that are coming into Mexico.
That's just something else.
You know, Newt Gingrich said that recently again.
And he talked about, you know, doing tariffs on Mexico.
And I said, Mr. Gingrich, you know, I was talking with him.
I was like, Mr. Gingrich, that's not going to do it.
You need to shut down.
Listen, if you want to shut down this thing, okay, separate from my talking with him, if you want to shut this thing down, you got to start with the people that are actually doing it.
This is international.
They're also invading Japan.
They're also invading Australia.
They're also invading Europe, right, and Canada.
What good is it going to do?
They'll just find routes around it, right?
You got to go for the actual source.
Mexico is not the source.
I hear people all the time saying, we got to go for the cartels.
The cartels are the ones doing it.
How about go for the ones that are actually bringing them into Mexico?
Mexico is not the ones that are getting them to land in Brazil and getting them to land in Ecuador and go through Colombia.
And then go through the Darien Gap, where the IOM or OIM, depending on your language, that are highest.
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society helps them all the whole route, right?
And then they finally get to Mexico, and we blame Mexico.
But they're also coming through Canada.
We were just up there looking at that.
They also come through Bahamas.
We were just over there looking at that.
I mean, they're also going into...
Go ahead, sir.
Okay, but Trump has also threatened Canada with tariffs as well.
And isn't it Mexico's obligation to control its own space to not allow its country to be used as a highway, a thoroughfare for invasion?
I mean, couldn't Mexico do something to stop these caravans?
It's not like they're hard to spot.
But why don't we go after the actual arsonist, right?
Because we could lose the Panama Canal.
Panama Canal is in Panama's hands now, but I guarantee you China is working to take it.
I think they're going to do it using Colombia and all these other things.
But the bottom line, it'll take a long time, but they're setting conditions for it now.
If you want to shut this down, you go for the arsonist, right?
Otherwise, you're doing all these tariffs around the world, whatever.
I mean, seriously, you're not even treating the problem.
You're like treating a headache by putting a gun to your head.
I mean, we need to go for the problem.
The problem are the people that are doing it, like the United Nations.
Right.
Go from them.
You shut them down and you'll shut most of it down right there.
And then start deporting people.
Start putting people in prison that are hiring them and that sort of thing.
Instead of tracking down everybody who's doing it, start putting people in prison that are hiring illegal aliens, right?
Right.
And then you'll start to see an osmotic pressure out of the United States, a lot of self-deportation.
You have to set conditions.
The first thing you do is turn off the gas.
If you walk into an enclosed building and it smells like gas, the first thing you do is shut off the gas.
Oh, you don't let a match first?
You don't call the fire department first.
Yeah, you don't call it.
Hey, let's light a match and see where the problem is.
I mean, you shut off the gas, right?
It's interesting because I know somebody who used to work in the prison system, and he asked me, this was many, many years ago when I just got out of the Army, and he said, you know, we have these threat scenarios that we hit our people with to see how they would react to it, and one of them is, you smell gas in the prison.
What do you do with the prisoners?
And I said, shut off the gas.
And he said, well, that's great because almost everybody says, get the prisoners out of the prison instead of shut the gas.
Shut the gas off.
It's like bottom line common sense, right?
Yeah, totally.
I mean, why would you run around getting all the prisoners out while the gas is still filling the place up?
Yeah, no kidding.
And that's what's happening.
You've got to go for the United Nations and the highest and all these guys.
Completely agree.
And I think the other component of this is we have to end the financial incentives that exist in the United States, where even cities like New York are spending billions of dollars paying for benefits and hotel rooms and free food and whatever.
And in California, it's the same situation.
So there are all these incentives for illegals to come to the United States.
But my next question to you, Michael, is...
If California is determined...
They've been announcing, what do they call it, super sanctuary status?
Now, I don't know how that's better than sanctuary status, but they're going to go super sanctuary, and they say they are not going to let their illegals be taken away by Trump's federal agents.
At least the AG of California said that.
So how do you think that's going to go down, or is Trump going to say, we're moving on, we're not going to deal with the illegals anyway, so it doesn't matter?
We'll end up losing California.
You know, Masako Ganaha and I went to San Francisco a couple times in the last few years, publicly saying, we think China will eventually want to make San Francisco their capital in the United States, because they'll want to split off California, right?
And then later, Xi came to San Francisco, and he didn't even go to Washington.
I mean, I'm telling you, they want to make San Francisco.
I went to school in San Francisco, by the way.
I'm somewhat familiar with the place.
I'm telling you, China wants to make that their capital.
One of the ways that China operates down here in Argentina is they work with governments at local level.
They look like down in Tierra del Fuego, down in Patagonia.
They work with local governments, and those local governments have offices in China, right?
They do this all over the world.
So they'll go down and deal with the, you know, let's use American language, they'll go things down at like the city level, and the parish level, and then the county level, and then the state level, right?
So if they can't deal, so somebody high in the Argentinian government told me just last week, he said, I was in his office, he said, A lot of the things that the Chinese are doing, they don't even come to consult us in Buenos Aires.
They don't consult us at the federal level.
They're doing it at the local levels at different places.
The Chinese are, and that's the way I see them doing it all over the world, right?
They're doing the same thing everywhere.
They do these indigenous rights.
There's many people that are behind indigenous rights, but the indigenous rights are about splitting off indigenous people, for instance, down the Darien Gap, which I see it down there.
I'm down with the indigenous people there all the time.
They do the same up in Canada so that they can do that northern corridor with the icebreakers, with the Russians and the Chinese.
They want to deal with the indigenous people up there, not with the Canadian government, right?
But China heavily influences the Canadian government.
In fact, they're clearly going to end up in Canada with a fight between Indians and Chinese before this is over.
But the bottom line is...
This is a global war.
And you see, the idea of doing tariffs against Mexico is, like, idiotic.
And Newt Gingrich, I don't know, he might be on a call today that I'm on, right?
And if he brings it up, I'll say it to him.
I mean, the thing is, is these things are incredibly...
Important to get your shots right, right?
Because the tariffs are not going to work, period.
All they're going to do is raise our prices up and raise their prices.
I'm not saying there's not a place in the world for tariffs.
I'm saying this isn't the weapon to use in this particular battle.
In this battle, you go after the NGOs.
Now, Masako Ganaha and I, we walked in to...
IOM here in Buenos Aires maybe six weeks ago or so, and we asked for a job.
And they were worried that IOM here in Buenos Aires, they said there's a hiring freeze now because they're worried that Trump is going to freeze the UN budget.
Now, that makes my heart dance.
If he freezes, if he just takes the United States out and stops putting any money into the United Nations, that is a major step in the right direction.
And I'll give major accolades to Trump.
If he does that, then I think he's dead serious, right?
If he goes after the UN, I mean, really go after him, not little pinpricks and that sort of thing.
Take him out.
But what I like about your approach here is that you do hold Trump's feet to the fire, so to speak.
You praise him where you think he's doing the right things.
And you condemn him if he's doing something that you see as ineffective or completely wrong.
But back to my original question.
What's going to happen, this showdown between Trump's desire to deport illegals, especially violent illegals, some of whom are in jails in California, and Homeland Security knows who they are because they're registered with Homeland Security.
So when Trump's people, let's say early February, whatever, when they show up, In California to say, hey, we're going to take these prisoners.
Here's the list.
You know, give us these thousand violent illegals that are in your jails here.
And California says no.
What's going to happen?
Somebody's going to have to man up or you're going to lose.
I mean, at the end of the day, we're going to have to enforce our will.
At the end of the day, for the good of the country.
Now, California, I hear people all the time saying, well, we should just let California secede.
I'm like, are you out of your mind to let California secede?
You got to be total loco.
I mean, you'll end up with Chinese bases.
Oh, yeah.
San Francisco will be a Chinese military base.
Absolutely.
No, you'll have a Chinese port on the West Coast.
It will.
They'll own Los Angeles.
They'll end up owning the whole West Coast, right?
All the way up through Canada and Alaska.
They'll own the whole thing.
And plus, most of California geographically is not insane.
You know, most people from California disagree with the criminals and crooks in charge.
Like the current governor and the attorney general and so on.
You know, California is an occupied state.
It's occupied by a criminal element run by like three or four key families.
You know, the Newsoms, the Gettys, whoever, right?
Nancy Pelosi is involved with all of them.
Just like America has been occupied and run by a criminal cabal at a federal level, that's the same thing is true with California.
But the people of California, by and large, They don't want to go along with that nonsense, right?
I mean, I spent about two years, I went to school in California, right?
I worked for Michael Jackson in California when I was in school, actually.
And I went to school in California twice, actually.
I mean, I've been all over California.
I said you left California because Michael Jackson told you to beat it.
Beat it!
I'm sorry.
I'm the only, like, ex-Special Forces guy that liked Michael Jackson.
You know what's funny about Michael Jackson is all over the world I see kids doing moonwalking and things.
I was in Afghanistan one time.
I was out in this small village way away from any road or electricity.
And I said, and I was talking with the village leader.
He had the long beard.
They always rubbed their beard.
I said, sir, did you know that Michael Jackson died?
And he's rubbing his beard, you know.
He's like, oh yes, we know the Michael.
Please tell your people that our people, the Pashtun people will cry one million tears for the Michael.
It's funny because Kurds will say the same thing, too.
Please tell your people that the Kurds cry one million tears for every drop of American blood.
A Kurdish guy told me that one time with his hand over his heart, just like that Pashtun man did.
Actually, you know, I'm out with those Pashtun people so much.
And, you know, I've said before, I always get along with farmers.
It doesn't even...
I can even get along with communist farmers somehow.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, I mean, because they're just farmers at the end of the day.
They're like, really?
What I want to do is be a farmer, you know?
Yeah.
And they're tired of the communist government taking their crops.
Yeah, I'm out.
Exactly.
And I'm out with, you know, these Taliban, clearly Taliban farmers.
And at one point I'm like, why are we even at war with these guys?
They're just farmers.
You know, like farmers around the world, they want to tell you about the water, the rain this year.
They want to tell you about the price of pomegranate or something.
You know what I mean?
They don't want to talk about war.
I'm with you on that.
Okay, let's shift gears.
Now, let me ask you about this drone situation, but let me present some new information.
I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but clearly these mystery drones that have been flying around over New Jersey, New York, the ones that people see, they have FAA lights, red and green.
They've got flashing beacons.
Clearly those are U.S. government drones, at least the ones that people are seeing.
But then there's another kind of drone.
That has been reported on for many, many years.
And I'm bringing up a story right here from 2021 from the war zone.
And this really got my attention because this, from three years ago, is a story about a Tucson police helicopter that chased this mysterious drone that was hanging around and surveilling the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson.
And that that incident was exactly like an incident that happened in 2016. So now we have an eight-year span.
And then also all across Arizona on the Air Force training grounds, F-35 pilots have reported numerous times.
Michael, what happened to that drone they were chasing?
You're like leaving me hanging on that.
Oh, well, it outran the police helicopters.
And it had no radar signature.
Wow.
See, this is a common thread that these drones that keep surveilling military bases seems to be something to do with nuclear assets.
These drones have no radar signature.
And the F-35 pilots in Arizona, this is all in the war zone, said that they were clocking these drones at Mach 0.75.
Wow.
So 560 mile an hour drones, right?
So I'm taking it they're not helicopter drones then.
Yeah, this is the big question.
And they're flying at altitudes up to 39,000 feet, right?
So these are not your ordinary, these are not Amazon.com DJI drones made in China.
There might be something else made in China, who knows?
But...
So here's my question to you, Michael.
Clearly, there has been a pattern of hundreds, if not thousands, of mysterious drone sightings over military bases in Arizona and on the East Coast, including around Washington, D.C., Virginia, North Carolina area in previous years.
F-35 pilots have reported numerous incidents to the FAA, including drone swarms of these large drones that, again, could fly at Mach 0.75.
Yeah.
That seems to be different from the drones that people are spotting that have the FAA lights on them.
What is your take, your best guess, at what's going on right now in New Jersey with these drones?
Let me ask you this follow-up question.
Has anybody gotten a good photo?
What they're photographing seems to be the government drones.
But are there any high-quality photos of those?
No.
Daytime or nighttime?
No, I mean, these appear to be operating at night.
Yeah.
This is a Sony Alpha 1, right?
I don't know if you've seen some of my nighttime photography from the wars, but I took some really incredible nighttime photography with cameras that are like one quarter as good as this one, like the cop actuals effect photos that I took that, you know, Uh, in Afghanistan and that sort of thing.
And I'm just curious why nobody has used, this is a Sony alpha one.
Why has nobody used a high quality?
There's bird photographers all over the place, wildlife for the, um, you know, there's people that could easily, they have the gear, they have the knowledge, they have the skill they're in there.
They have to be in these places.
Why is nobody getting great photos of these?
Michael, I think the answer, and I don't mean to alarm you, but from the experts that I've been hearing, is because these mysterious drones apparently have some kind of light cloaking capability.
They can seemingly vanish, and they're also invisible to radar, and they have no thermal signature.
Now, what's weird is that this— The thermal signature, that's been confirmed by New Jersey lawmakers, former helicopter pilots, military people, government leaders that are sending out their drones.
See, the U.S. government, the drones that people are seeing, I think those are naval drones.
They're trying to find these other drones.
But these other drones have no thermal signature and no radar signature.
So nobody knows where they're coming from.
Sounds wildly suspicious, doesn't it?
It does.
I don't know the answer to this.
I'm trying to get your thoughts.
Any ideas what this is?
Some sort of PSYOP is what jumps off the page to me.
Some sort of PSYOP. Yeah.
Because it's just mysteries wrapped in mysteries while we are having other things going on that are, you know, why isn't the military shot any down?
You know, why are we even spending any time on this at all?
Because this should have been solved instantly by the government.
The government should be able to easily get some of these things, right?
I mean, why is no state government, like a helicopter, get up there and use your prop wash to knock them down?
I mean, you know, I know you...
According to the War Zone, again, and this is a reputable publisher of military technology, okay?
TWZ.com.
They said that the helicopter pilots, Tucson Police Department helicopters and Davis-Monthan Air Force Base helicopters and air traffic control.
They said that when they tried to engage these drones, the drones engaged in highly wild evasive maneuvers.
They couldn't get close to them.
The drones were reacting and responding, and then they would fly off with capabilities that the helicopters could not match.
We're talking about some class, and that was three years ago, and then five years before that.
So this is not your normal – it's not Iran, obviously.
It's not Russia.
Does China have something like this?
Sounds like – I mean, as you know, there could be multiple different things going on.
That's right.
Some could be just normal drones.
Some could be just, hey, somebody was smoking dope and, you know what I mean?
And then there's obviously light illusions that happen to the best of us.
You can, you know, driving down and it looks like something's going up and you're really going down, you know, that sort of thing.
And so, I mean, but I don't know.
There's obviously a lot of mystery going on, but it is quite strange to me that nobody's getting great photography because there are people clearly getting some Grainy photos and whatnot, like Bigfoot photos.
What did somebody say to me earlier today?
Maybe Bigfoot just is fuzzy.
I don't know.
It's kind of a joke, obviously.
But I would imagine that, I mean, if those things come near me and I got this camera nearby, I'll guarantee you I'm going to get some good photos, unless it's just going too fast for me to get the settings right, you know?
Because I know how to use it, and that's a really incredible camera and lens, right?
And I know that there's people out there all over America with great gear and know how to use it.
Why aren't we getting it?
That's just bizarre, unless there's something else going on.
Is it possible?
Now, I saw videos of journalists from News Nation that took high-quality cameras out in New Jersey.
And any time they had those cameras...
Those drones did not come near them.
When people are out without good cameras, then the drones are like 500 meters away.
Is it possible that the drones have technology to assess who has good camera equipment?
You know, when I was in the Iraq war, we were getting hit a lot with snipers.
And they were working on technology to find, for instance, you know, using laser technology to quickly find any glint off of your scopes, right?
Yeah.
So that we could find that they're hidden.
Because if you're hidden like two rooms back in a building, you're not going to see them, right?
And you might see their scope, though.
I don't know how good that technology might be now, but I would imagine, I mean, You might be able to do that.
I mean, you know how technology is.
It's always pretty, usually far more advanced than most of us realize.
I don't know if they could do it.
It's just, your background as a war correspondent...
And your familiarity with helicopters and rotor motion, you're actually well known for that phrase that you came up with about the glow, the glow off the rotors, right?
What do you call it?
The Cop-Echel's effect.
I actually named it.
I named it after two soldiers that were killed in the area, Benjamin Cop and Joseph Echel's.
So you've seen a lot of military aircraft in action.
You've been on them, around them, etc.
When our government right now, like Admiral Kirby, who is a professional liar, when he says, hey, there's nothing to it, people are just seeing normal general aviation aircraft, or they're just seeing commercial airliners, there are no drones, it's all in your head.
Do you buy that?
No.
I mean, you just said he's a professional liar.
All else follows.
I mean, you know...
Our Navy doesn't appear to be able to defeat the Houthis, but they certainly could be used to defeat Americans.
And I've said before, I can easily see that our military being used against us, it already is.
It's just a matter of incrementally, right?
I mean, we could easily close the border.
we've got our military running off to defend israel not just defend israel but to expand israel into greater israel right and i want to i'll repeat i've said this to you before i know the centcom commander his name's eric carilla i was with him in combat he got shot right in front of me while i was shooting at five frames a second with a canon camera similar to this with a 50
So he's getting shot, and I happen to have my button on the thing because I'm running down this alley and we're in a firefight, and I used to keep my camera attached to my body armor like this, not with the big lens.
I always had 50mm on it, so tiny lens.
But we're in this shootout, so I just had my finger down the button, and I'm running down the alley, and the air gets hit three times.
Breaks his femur in half, and I got all these photos of him getting shot, and it happened.
Anyway, I used to keep it attached to my body armor because I want to keep my hands free.
Of course.
But when I need the camera, my parachute cord, 550 cord, I had it measured just exactly.
It'd go straight to my eye.
Oh, wow.
My lift up goes straight to my eye.
But actually, I would practice so much, like with a pistol, I could focus on your face.
Yeah.
I can focus.
I just about wore out cameras getting, you know, so I could shoot right and get it right.
That's why if the drones come near me, I'm going to be like, got you.
But what I'm getting to is, is I was there.
I know Eric.
He got shot right in front of me.
Now he's the sitcom commander.
He's running off defending Israel, you know, fighting Israel's war for him.
And our borders naked, wide open, right?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, all of our generals and admirals are captured.
I hate to say that about Eric because Eric was the finest combat leader I've ever seen.
And that says a lot.
I mean, I've been in a lot of combat with a lot of combat leaders who are highly competent and very good.
I've just never seen one quite Muhammad Ali like Eric Carilla.
Right.
I mean, that guy was pretty stunning.
And I mean, he's he could just sense the battlefield very quickly, like lock that down.
They're going to go that way.
Bam!
We get them, right?
He was doing this stuff just all the time.
He was leading the way.
He was the battalion commander, but he was always out front.
So why is he down there?
We could close that border.
We do have people like Eric.
If you point them in that direction, say, close that border.
We'll give you the resources and get out of the way.
Close it.
That border will be closed.
We don't need tariffs.
Close the damn border.
Put the military down there.
And close the United Nations.
This is simple stuff.
This isn't rocket science.
We need somebody to analyze what the tariffs would do.
How about close the United Nations and put the military on the border?
And on Canada as well.
Canada's dead, man.
Canada's gone with the wind.
The Canada that we knew is now gone.
And that is a very exposed border for us.
It's more than 5,000 miles long.
It's a massive border.
And it's totally defenseless.
Yeah, they just lost their finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, I believe was her name.
She seemed to have an interesting coke habit, but she's gone.
So she had a coke habit, huh?
Well, I mean, she's always super jittery on camera, but whatever.
She and Trudeau probably, that's probably what they did during the off hours.
But let's shift gears.
One of the things I really like about you, Michael, is that you study history, and you take a special fascination with collapsed currencies, museums, And also bookstores.
Used books, old books.
So here, I've got a bunch of collapsed currencies right here, right?
So these are all from different, you know, Yugoslavia and whatever, all the different countries.
Hey, these are worth trillions of useless units.
Something.
But you and I both, we study the cycles of history, and we have seen over and over again what happens when people push fiat currency to the limit.
Now, we've had a record quarter of government debt creation and spending.
By all indications, Trump coming into office, he's not going to have fiscal discipline, and his administration is pumping money.
Bitcoin already.
So put that together for me, please.
In terms of what you know about history, what's going to happen to the dollar if it goes in this direction and Bitcoin?
And what's the big plan here from Trump's point of view?
Yeah, what is his plan?
I mean, the dollar will eventually go to its intrinsic value, right?
And just like Which major currency will be first?
The yen?
I don't know.
Yeah, it could be the yen.
It could be the euro.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, Masako Ganaha, and she found...
She found a museum for foreign debt here in Buenos Aires recently, and we went there.
We went to the museum.
I love that.
It's not very big.
It's about three times bigger than this room that I was in.
But it was closed, so figure that one out.
The museum for foreign currency is closed.
Maybe it's a budget issue.
But in any case...
But because we're constantly watching these, you know, you go down to the markets here and they sell old pesos, you know, as like souvenirs and that sort of thing.
But in any case, recently, you know, I love to read old stuff, as you do as well, because we learn so much from the old work.
And, you know, President Grant, you know, he was a general grant, and then he was President Grant for two terms.
So in 1879, he was back, he was not back in Japan, he realized after a second tour of A second term as a president that the United States was really going to go super global, right?
So he did a two-year tour around the world.
And part of that was in Japan, I think about two months.
So recently my research partner, JBS, Jew Behind the Scenes, he's Jewish.
So when he publishes on my Twitter, it's always JBS, Jew Behind the Scenes.
One time we were in Tokyo and he's actually smoking a cigar in this dimly lit place.
I'm like, you really are the Jew behind the scenes.
We were plotting on China some stuff.
He loves to read old President Grant as well because we learn so much from Grant.
He found these old papers from Grant's letters when he's off in Japan.
President Grant was writing letters to the Emperor of Japan, and he was suggesting to the Emperor of Japan, not suggesting, he was very clearly stating in soldier words.
I love the way the old soldiers talk, just super direct.
He's like...
Whatever you do, sir, you know, to the emperor of Japan, don't, you know, avoid foreign debt.
Foreign actors are going to come here, they're going to make you fight China, and they're going to make China fight you.
They're going to make you two fight each other, and then they're going to loan you and China money, and then they're going to own you and China.
So this is Grant.
So they got these letters going back and forth between the Emperor of Japan, 1879. You got these letters going back and forth between those two, and the Emperor of Japan is expressing his thanks for this advice, and I think it settled in with him, too.
You could see the Emperor of Japan, as his letters progressed, I think that he started to realize this is a trap, and that the globalists will set this trap, because globalists aren't anything new.
Well, in particular, the Rothschilds globalists.
That's, I mean, they mastered that whole thing.
Yeah, and so that's what, so President Grant was warning him very clearly, like, whatever you do, don't take foreign debt.
And he was advising him, like, hey, the Chinese have this, you know, this, you guys gotta work out these issues among yourselves, basically, because, and then he starts going off about How this will be used to make you and China fight each other, loan you money, and then they're going to buy you, they're going to own you.
Yeah, real quick, I know you've read Confessions of an Economic Hitman, John Perkins.
I have not read it.
I have it right here, though, but I haven't read it yet.
That's one of my saddest non-reads yet so far.
Yeah, that's a must-read, but it's an easy read because you know 90% of what's in that book.
But I interviewed Perkins a few years ago, and we may have him back on, actually.
But he described in particular how this model, but he worked this model as a government agent in Central and South America in particular, And it was exactly like what you said, except in the case of these countries, the CIA would threaten a color revolution, an assassination, economic sanctions, if they didn't go along with the U.S. plan, which was always rooted in debt, right?
World Bank debt.
Using special forces, actually.
They used special forces a lot, didn't they?
I think Mr. Perkins did not like special forces much, did he?
And I can understand why.
As I get older and I see and I learn more, I'm like, wow, a lot of great soldiers and SEALs, they're used in ways that if they really knew what was...
Little gears and a clock, but don't know what time it is.
I mean, these are people that are doing their best.
They're very patriotic.
They're very serious people, but they don't know the organizational structure that they serve and what it's really up to.
Yeah, true.
Exactly.
So then getting back to our topic here, though, let's shift over to crypto because you did mention Bitcoin earlier.
I agree with you that Bitcoin's probably going to pump pretty hard for a year or two, and Trump's going to point to that and say, see, we made everybody rich.
But you and I both know the history of tulip bulb mania centuries ago, and yeah, everybody who owned a tulip that cost $20,000 equivalent today, they thought they were rich.
Except tulips didn't have any real intrinsic value other than planting in the ground and growing a flower.
And eventually the whole tulip bulb mania collapsed.
So it seems to me like, I mean, I love crypto.
I love the original concept of Bitcoin, don't get me wrong.
But it seems to me like this is now being pumped into tulip bulb mania territory.
What do you think?
Oh, clearly.
Clearly.
I think there's multiple levels.
I was just talking with JBS before we went on, and I was taking some notes, actually.
I was just talking with him, and I took some notes, and we were trying to figure out which traps they're setting.
Oh.
So I was writing my notes on my old book.
This was used to wrap an antique book I bought in Tokyo.
So we were trying to figure out which traps they're trying to set with this thing.
Okay.
And so we were just discussing this.
In fact, when you messaged me, I had to hang up with him.
So this is what we were talking about earlier today.
First and foremost, Ponzi scheme, right?
And secondly, it will probably is designed, at this point at least, if nothing else, it's Evolved into this trap.
It's going to put people into central banking, digital currency.
And it's perfectly used for social credit.
Bitcoin, it's not private.
So many people keep saying Bitcoin allows you to do private transactions.
Look, you're not even in the same ballpark.
You know what I mean?
The whole blockchain is public.
They can trace it back to your social security number through the KYC exchanges.
It's super easy.
And then there's property transfer, because now you've got people pumping.
You should take a mortgage on your home to buy Bitcoin.
People are saying that, actually saying that.
Sell your gold and buy Bitcoin.
I mean, property transfer.
Imagine the funnel that creates.
And then just more governmental control eventually when the eventual collapse comes.
But I'm sure there's more traps.
We're trying to work this out.
We're trying to figure out, because it looks like, you know, the cheese is the Bitcoin.
The cheese itself may or may not be poisoned, but that's the cheese.
Any kind of bait will do.
It can be fish.
It can be, you know, gold.
It can be silver.
Whatever cheese.
Beautiful women have always been used as bait, right?
And whatever the bait is.
Then there's the trap.
And the Bitcoin appears to be a cheese in a mouse trap that's in a rat trap that's in a bear trap that's all set atop a tiger trap, right?
So when people keep talking about, well, you don't understand blockchain and all this stuff, I'm like, you're talking about spike proteins, man.
I'm talking about war.
You're talking about M16s and how fast the bullet comes out of the barrel.
Oh, that's really impressive.
You know how fast the bullet comes out of the barrel.
You know how many rounds a minute it can fire.
That's like blockchain talking about that.
I'm talking about the war.
I'm not talking about the little blockchain.
That's just a rifle bullet that we're talking about.
We're talking about the Air Force and the Navy.
We're talking about intelligence warfare.
We're talking about a very serious high level, and that's just a tiny part of it.
Okay, so I'm going to bring up on Amazon, let's see, Hijacking Bitcoin, right?
I know you read the book.
I did.
This is by Roger Ver and Jeffrey Tucker.
Here it is, The Hidden History of Bitcoin.
So what this book reveals, and this is becoming a very popular book, I read it a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, exactly.
So this book reveals that Bitcoin has been hijacked and turned into an artificially small blockchain, which even John McAfee opposed.
And as a small blockchain...
Bitcoin can never fulfill its original vision that Satoshi set out for it, which was everyday usage, peer-to-peer transactions among people who have self-custody and control.
Instead, because of the artificially small blockchain that's been enforced on this, you now have institutionalized Bitcoin, ETFs through companies like Fidelity and other finance giants, where people don't have custody.
They don't have their own wallets.
So you don't own Bitcoin anymore.
You log into a website where Fidelity tells you that you have a proxy for Bitcoin, and the only purpose of it is price speculation now.
You're not using it for transactions.
You don't even control it.
And you have to have permission from Fidelity to get your Bitcoin in and out, right?
So that's a complete contradiction of the original vision.
Complete contradiction.
Right.
But there was a fork of Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, which I think fulfills the original vision more, but it's still not a privacy coin, right?
So people like Aaron Day and Roger Ver, they're advocates of privacy coins, which have like built-in, you know, built-in real privacy.
So I think that's going to be a big trend for 2025. But it seems to me that what Trump could do is pump up Bitcoin, tell everybody, he could even give everybody A little bit of Bitcoin, like 0.01 Bitcoins for every citizen, right?
And then tell them, we're going to make you rich by pumping up Bitcoin to a trillion dollar marketplace.
And this would serve to suck the energy out of the gold market.
See?
So that could be another trap.
Oh, I was just talking with a gold guy this morning, a guy that bought way more than 1,000 Bitcoin himself way back when.
And in fact, he talked about how he persuaded one of his friends to buy 1,000 Bitcoins when they were $100 each, and he still has them.
So that's like 100 million.
That'd be worth $106 million right now.
I just looked at the price.
It's right here.
It's 106,487 right now, right?
Wait, he's got 1,000 Bitcoins?
He persuaded somebody, one of his friends, to buy a thousand and he still got them.
And this other guy bought a lot more than that.
I just talked with him this morning.
And so, I mean, and I'll be talking with him again tonight.
But I mean, it's quite interesting because he sees what's going on.
He's not under any illusions, right?
He's very smart about this.
But we were talking about how I think, and I think he thinks as well, that this is being used as a funnel to funnel people's Seriously, sell your gold and buy Bitcoin?
That's a huge trap, man.
Here, you can have this cheese if you put the gold on the little trigger for the mouse trap.
Take the same amount of weight of gold and put that in and get it off.
That's what's happening here, man.
But anybody who does that, they're going to be left at the end of this when the rug pull happens on Bitcoin.
They're going to have no gold and no Bitcoin either.
Right.
It's just air.
It's just air.
Yeah, I mean, I would rather have...
I mean, if people are going to dump gold to buy Bitcoin, I'll buy the gold.
You know what I'm saying?
I would much rather sit on physical metal because I know it's going to still be there.
Right.
Gold.
I mean, it's funny how people are like, Gold is a relic.
I'm like, well, give me your relics, man.
Give me that dirty gold.
Give me that dirty silver.
And you can have this nice Gresham's Law.
Here, I'll give you this nice, perfect Bitcoin.
But at the end of the day, I think it's going to...
A lot of people are going to be surprised, just like with the death jab, right?
Yeah.
And again, I want to be clear.
Neither one of us, we're not anti-crypto at all.
We use it.
We have to.
We use it, right.
You're an international traveler.
When I donate money to people, or even on some political campaigns, I donated using crypto.
Not secretly.
I filled out the form.
Like, I donated money to Dennis Kucinich, who ran for Congress.
I donated in Bitcoin.
You know, perfectly legal.
I use my name and everything.
We're not violating FEC rules or anything.
But I use Bitcoin.
Why?
Because I don't have to mess with the silly banks and all their restrictions and everything.
So Bitcoin does have utility in its wider acceptability.
It's got divisibility and it's got instant international transaction capabilities.
But I would much rather use Monero because it's private.
And if I want a store of value, that's gold, in my mind.
I mean, you've been at museums.
Did you ever visit a museum of a collapsed civilization where Bitcoin survived?
Yeah, that's what I was going to mention on that.
Like, for instance, the Euro came out, what, January 1st, maybe, of 1999 or December 1st?
Anyway, 1999 is when the Euro came out, right?
And already people are talking about the potential.
I just finished another book, too, called The Tower of Basel.
You know, the history of the BIS, the Bank of International Settlements.
Oh, yeah.
The most powerful central bank in the world, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, the Bank's Bank.
The one that was really hugely behind the euro.
But now they've made gold a tier one asset at the BIS. I mean, the BIS is an incredibly powerful bank.
And they're in Basel, Switzerland.
That's why the book is called The Tower of Basel, right?
And so, anyway.
Interestingly, the BIS was formed way back when to help settle the reparations from Germany from World War I.
But they worked out a system of international transactions that are like wire transactions, which hadn't really been done on any large level at that time.
So the BIS is the one that started really making this technology work between banks, right?
They've always traded heavily in gold, and they stole Czechoslovakia all their gold sort of using that wire system.
And the Bank of England helped them, and they gave it to Nazi Germany, right?
I mean, just using paperwork shuffle, right?
I mean, it was custodial gold, right?
Just like custodial Bitcoin, it was custodial gold.
They stole all of Czechoslovakia's money, gold, and gave it to Germany.
I mean, this is public stuff.
Let me actually bring it, since you're mentioning that, let me just tell our audience here how wire transfers actually work, because most people really have no understanding of it.
A wire transfer service, like what you were just describing, Michael, is simply a messaging service where both parties agree to take actions on their side.
Like, if Bank A wires money to Bank B from a specific account, Bank A just agrees to deduct that from the account and Bank B agrees to credit that account directly.
That's all it is.
It's a messaging system.
Nothing gets transferred other than information.
Well, that messaging system, it had to be centrally controlled, otherwise everybody would cheat.
But...
The emergence of blockchain technology and distributed consensus, which is what BRICS plans to use, means that you no longer need a central authority to tell you who's enforcing the rules.
You can have it be distributed among multiple players, which means for the first time under BRICS, no one nation can cheat on the ledger.
Like, that's the innovation of BRICS, is it's a distributed consensus mechanism among member countries where no one country can counterfeit, whereas right now the dollar can be counterfeited obviously every day by the United States.
And by other people as well.
Yeah, right.
Counterfeiting foreign money has always been a weapon of war.
That's true.
That's why I used to have a business in Poland many years ago, and I had containers of product coming over to Poland And I was working on certain technological things that were minor.
It wasn't big technology.
And I needed a Polish Zloty, which was their dollars, the Polish Zloty, right?
To calibrate certain systems and things.
So I had some of those Zloty back in the United States.
And I said, when you sent, like AI just made my thumbs up thing going.
You can set off parties and things with other gestures.
You can have, like, fireworks celebrations.
Love, right?
Yeah, see what happens.
Like, start waving around randomly.
See what comes up.
Yeah, I should be careful.
Yeah, go with two thumbs up.
See what that does.
See?
Oh, my goodness.
There we go.
Look at this stuff.
Let me see if it does.
It's a party.
Now we're going off getting, now we're doing serious stuff.
We're doing, there we go.
Look at that.
Goodness gracious.
Oh, my God.
Michael Yon with the love meme.
The flying hearts.
Okay.
Yeah.
And fireworks.
All of it.
Can't make up this stuff.
And now we're going to start going down what's on this thing, you know?
Yeah.
But this is kind of...
Look at this.
You got like...
See, there's a party at Michael Jan's apartment right now.
Yeah.
But we're talking about technology and money transfer and how that's rapidly evolving.
Go ahead.
Can I finish that thought?
Yeah.
And so I had some containers of stuff coming over to Poland.
I said, whatever you do, do not put any jlotties into the container.
Because it's illegal to bring zhlottis into Poland, even though it's their currency.
Just like it was a death penalty to bring dinar into Iraq at some times, right?
Because foreign people would counterfeit money and then debase their currency.
That's why.
And sure enough, somebody sent some zhlottis over to Poland in one of the containers.
I'm like, the one thing I said, don't put into any container...
Is zloty.
And that's the one thing you put in.
And they got caught.
And now I have to literally use whiskey to get my container out, you know?
And so it's like, seriously.
But anyway, but the point is, it's like, um, but the Currency debasement has been a weapon of war since forever.
So when we take Russian money, billions of dollars, the Russians will just crank it up and print a bunch of it.
They'll be like, well, we'll show you.
Okay, that's how quickly you can take our money.
Watch how quickly we just print a bunch more of that stuff.
Well, right.
Right, but that's also to my point that the BRICS system, which is an international settlement system, cannot be counterfeited by anybody, as I understand it.
Like, you have to deposit gold, 40% of it's gold, like vaulted, audited gold, and then 60% is a basket of currencies of the member nations.
Then you get issued the digital token that represents those deposits.
You can then settle with other countries using that digital token, which is called the unit, that's the BRICS settlement system.
The fact that it can't be counterfeited means it can't be weaponized by one country, which means that any nation that hates U.S. sanctions, which is everybody except maybe the U.K., they're going to switch over to BRICS because why wouldn't you?
Like, if there's a monetary system that can't be screwed with, wouldn't you want to use that system?
Yeah.
You know, when I was just recently over in Thailand, I was talking with a gold expert.
He's Thai.
And we were talking about BRICS and these sorts of things.
I said, how are they?
I mean, I can see why China and Russia always are going to have to do business with each other, of course, but they don't trust each other at all, of course, and of course, for good reason.
And so he said what they're doing, and I haven't confirmed this, but he's a pretty serious guy, but I'd have to check into it.
But he said China and Russia will use a warehouse on their border to Because China and Russia border each other.
And so that warehouse will be where they'll do periodically, like every month or every quarter or whatever.
Depending on the balance of trade, they'll actually shift physical gold or other assets like silver back and forth, but specifically gold.
That's right.
So, in other words, they have a warehouse right on the border.
Part of the warehouse is in China and parts in Russia.
And every so often, they'll be like, and here's your gold, right?
Totally.
That's right.
Totally.
That's a great idea, isn't it?
It makes sense.
I mean, this is why the central banks, especially of China, have been loading up on tons of gold for the last several years.
I mean, every time China...
It allows U.S. treasuries to expire.
They're not buying treasuries again.
They're rolling that into gold.
Because they know that with the gold, they're going to be able to be issued more of the BRICS units that they can use for international settlement.
I mean, this is like...
The Western leaders, I think, have become so incompetent, they have no idea what's coming.
They have no idea the dollar will be obsolete very soon because of this innovation.
You know, who wants to subject themselves to...
I mean, how many sanctions does the State Department have?
Like 5,000 different sanctions?
They sanction families.
They sanction corporations.
They sanction nations.
They use it as a weapon all the time.
And Trump thinks he's going to use sanctions as a weapon.
I'm saying that all these countries that you're sanctioning, they're not going to care.
They're going to say, go pound sand.
We don't use the dollar anyway.
I mean, it's already mostly there.
I mean, look at trade between Russia and China and India right now.
And Trump and his ecosystem are starting to use their influence to get people to funnel their gold and everything else into Bitcoin.
I wonder if this will drop the price of gold appreciably for a while.
Hopefully it'll drop it to a dollar an ounce.
If it drops gold to a dollar an ounce, I'll sell my shoes and buy it.
I'll be walking around barefoot.
You know, it's like...
Because the smart countries like India, who are getting a lot of gold from Africa, they're all buying as much gold as they can get right now.
Right.
Because at the end of the day, that's what's going to matter.
Let me plug your website.
I haven't done that yet.
It's michaelyan.substack.com.
It's where people can follow you.
Be the Americans the World Thinks You Are.
That's great.
That's a great title.
Love it.
Aikido Information War and so on.
A lot of great content there.
You're also on Twitter or X. You are Michael underscore Yon.
Y-O-N. Is there anything else you want to mention?
No, sir.
Except that back to the Darien Gap soon and other places.
I'm more looking at the moment what China is doing down here in Argentina and learning a great deal about Argentina because people often when I go places, they go, why are you there?
People kept asking while I was spending so much time in the Darien Gap.
Now they got screw worms coming up to America, right?
And it's a major invasion route.
I'm here because there's a big...
Big things are cooking here in Argentina.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, and I want to ask you, I need to ask you about Syria.
I don't know how deep your knowledge base is on Syria, but just as context to our audience, you know, of course, Assad basically just gave up and left and flew to Moscow with his family.
Syria was instantly overtaken by what appeared to be Western-backed proxy forces that used to be called ISIS. They just did a name change and a rebrand, and now they control Syria.
I mean, the guy running Syria, the State Department, still has a $10 million bounty on his head, but now they say he's progressive.
Yeah.
It looks like Turkey is building up troops to invade Syria, and Israel has already done an invasion with tanks headed toward Damascus.
Do you have any read on what's happening with the situation in Syria, which was a major route for Iran to supply Hezbollah, obviously?
Any take on this?
Well, the Israelis want to make...
You know, the greater Israel.
Yeah.
Which would mean taking huge parts of Syria and Jordan and the Suez Canal there in Egypt and big parts of Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, and Lebanon.
Yeah, definitely.
And so, I mean, this is doing what wars do, which we talk about many times.
Wars grow, and they grow uncontrollably, and they last longer than people expect.
Israel no longer controls the war.
Nobody controls the war because wars take on a life of their own.
They become like fires and pandemic.
They take on a life of their own famine.
When famine starts, famine grows more famine up until it reaches some mathematical tipping point.
And then, you know, locusts go away or whatever.
And and then you the famine goes away and we say, oh, we'd never do that again.
But that's what's happening with war.
Nobody controls it at this point.
And Israel no longer controls other than what they decide to do with their own forces.
But even that is, you know, always subject to change, depending on what the United States does, because the blood for Israel flows.
I'm just going to call it Zion's stand.
I used to be a big supporter of Israel, by the way.
I revoked that, right?
I've seen what they're doing in places like Gaza, and I will not stand with that.
And clearly, they are very predatory towards the United States.
Professional victims are always predators.
I've seen this around the world.
Everywhere I go, if you find a person or a culture or a government that is a professional victim, it will be a predator in my experience.
I have not seen, you know, an exception to this.
And the Zionists are highly predatory.
Of course, Zionists, many of the Zionists, of course, are Christians or atheists or actually there's some Muslim Zionists.
When I've said that before, people are like, you don't know what you're talking about.
And I'm like, actually, you don't.
There are some.
You've met them, yeah.
And so it's not, they use Zionism as a, you're an anti-Zionist.
I definitely am anti-Zionist, right?
And 100%, right?
And because they're anti-American, right?
And then they'll use the anti-Semite thing.
It's funny when somebody like Netanyahu uses anti-Semite.
He's not even Semitic.
He's not.
No, he's Polish.
He changed his name.
He self-identified as a Jew.
He's not even really Jewish.
Is he even Jewish?
Polish people, a lot of my Jewish friends, like JBS, he gets upset if I say Netanyahu's Jewish.
He's like, no, he's not.
He's like, because JBS is straight-up hardcore Jewish, you know?
And we work together seven days.
But when it comes to Netanyahu, if you say he's Polish, now Polish people are going to write you letters and go, please don't say Netanyahu's Polish.
He's not.
Because they don't want to have anything to do with that guy.
That's true, yeah.
Right, nobody wants to have anything to do, even the International Criminal Court.
But, yeah, it's funny, if your Jew behind the scenes says Netanyahu's not a Jew, see, that counts extra credit right there.
But look, I mean, you and I both, I think, have a similar worldview, which is We want people of every culture, every religion, every race, every ethnicity to be able to live with a sense of peace, security, abundance, and economic freedom.
And it's the governments of the world, it's people like Netanyahu or like Boris Johnson out of the UK, or many leaders in the US, Mayorkas and so on, and George Bush and that whole thing.
These people create all the trouble in the world.
They cause the wars.
Just like you were talking about earlier.
They cause the wars because they profit from them.
Left to just the people, most human beings get along just fine.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
That's my experience.
Actually, when I go to Korea, if you're at a distance, you'll think Koreans all hate Japanese.
You go to Korea, and they're like, no, we like Japanese.
But everybody thinks we hate them.
Because there's a huge information war, right?
And...
It's quite interesting.
I said, you know, the people that hate Japanese the most are actually Japanese.
And I was giving a speech in Tokyo one time, like, yeah, about, I don't know, maybe 2014, I was giving a speech to a bunch of historians and journalists and whatnot.
And I said, you know, I've been all over this world.
I'm always asking people, what countries do you like?
What countries do you not?
I go through like a bucket of questions I ask everybody, right?
And one of those is, you know, which countries do you like the most?
Actually, believe it or not, America is very popular around the world.
Strangely, still is.
The people that hate Americans the most are Americans, right?
So I'm giving this speech, and I think the speech might be online.
I said, you know, there's only three countries that hate Japan.
Do you know what those are?
And, you know, I'm asking this big audience, and people are like, Korea, China, right?
And I'm like, okay, we'll give you those.
And somebody's like, no, North Korea.
So that's the three, and I'm like, okay, just combine South and North.
And they're like, what's the third one?
I'm like, Japan.
I don't know.
I think that speech is online.
I think they gave a standing ovation.
I'm not sure, but it was a really loud applause anyway.
And the thing is, is they've been taught to hate themselves.
Their firmware has been rewritten.
We did it with our War Guilt Information Program.
It's called the War Guilt Information Program.
And we also wrote out of their firmware any affinity towards gold.
They think people who save in gold are gangsters.
They've been taught that.
Good people save in yen, fiat.
That's what they say.
Just like we're taught good people put money in savings account so it can be evaporated away by inflation.
But you're a good person because you save money.
But, you know, we're not taught.
But then you go to Thailand and they understand gold.
Or you go to Mac.
Mexico, they know the value of gold.
Mexico is big on silver.
And, you know, in Thailand, it's common sense to people in Vietnam and Thailand and India.
They'll look at you like you're crazy.
Yeah, in India, the family bank account is the gold you wear.
You know what I mean?
That's right.
Right?
It's like you're wearing your wealth.
going to go to its intrinsic value, which is zero.
And I'm like, not as long as India is around.
That's so true.
Not as China is around.
Because Chinese and Indians and most of Asia, except for Japan, are absolutely gold fiends.
They know everybody has agreed that we put value in gold.
It's a collective agreement in our collective firmware.
Well, and plus it has intrinsic beauty.
I mean, when you look at gold, there's something just really special about that element that isn't shared anywhere else.
But by the way, I want to say thank you to your, I don't know who it was, you sent me, the woman in Japan, because I was trying to guess of how to pronounce Nord Stream with a Japanese pronunciation.
And I think I tried like, Noru du Sturimu.
And she corrected me.
I was close, but it was Sturima.
So, yeah.
Norus turima, I think, is the way they say it.
You have a lot of listeners in Japan.
Do I? Oh, yeah, man.
I'm telling you, man, it's weird.
Every country I go to, people are like, oh, I saw you in Mike Adams.
Every single country.
Nobody's like, I saw you on Tucker.
I saw you on all these huge shows.
Jordan Peterson.
It's always Mike Adams.
It's really weird.
I'm not just saying that.
The lady, she'll see this, and she'll message to me, and she'll be like, I saw you when Mike Adams was talking about me.
Thank you for sending the message to Mike Adams.
One thing she wanted to thank me for was telling you that the information war about Nanjing was actually a huge part of that.
It's actually information war.
Yeah, I understand that, yeah.
Yeah, and you get it.
Because she watches you, and many Japanese do.
And by the way, we're going to do a bicycle trip across Japan, Misako and I are.
And so we're going to invite anybody that wants to come.
Hopefully a lot of Japanese will come with us.
Michael, let me tell you that this is fascinating.
I don't think I've ever told you this, and I haven't said this publicly.
But when I lived in Taiwan, I used to talk to a lot of the older Taiwanese who have now passed.
But I remember one man in particular who...
This is the man who...
They survived starvation by growing gorilla gardens of sweet potatoes.
Oh, yeah.
Which is why he would never eat sweet potatoes ever again in his life, because that's what kept him alive.
You told me that.
But even he said...
This was during Japanese occupation of Taiwan.
But the thing that actually took place during that occupation, there was a technology transfer from Japanese know-how and Japanese culture, which is a culture of precision.
It's a culture of quality workmanship.
And even this man became a woodworker, a very high-quality worker, You know, woodworker, he could build furniture and everything because of skills that were taught by the Japanese, you know, occupation forces.
The Japanese actually taught Taiwan Agriculture, how to work with wood, how to grow and harvest a forest or bamboo.
They taught them water conservation techniques.
You know, it's really fascinating.
You say, well, they, Japanese, they occupied Taiwan.
You think that that's 100% negative, and it wasn't.
It's part of what made Taiwan what it is today, which is a very industrious country of great innovation.
I mean, I hope that's not too controversial to say that, but I heard this directly from people that I talked to who lived there, who lived through that.
So there you go.
Oh, Taiwan.
I've written about this.
Maybe 10 years ago.
I went over to Taiwan researching some stuff, talking with the oldest people I could find.
And they used to call the old Taiwanese, they would call themselves sweet potatoes.
The young Taiwanese don't even seem to know about this.
But they would call themselves sweet potatoes, and they called the Chinese communists who came over after the Civil War, they called them Taro.
Because it was Taro and sweet...
Taiwan is shaped like a sweet potato.
It is.
It's shaped like a taro, right?
So they would call themselves sweet potatoes.
So the old ones.
Because, you know, Taiwanese have been there for maybe 450 years.
Nobody really knows.
But a long time, right?
The indigenous.
Well, then there's the indigenous, which is another...
There's at least 12 indigenous groups.
I think maybe more.
At least 12. Actually, I found a book on them earlier this year in Taiwan, which I bought.
It's very interesting.
It's written by a...
It's from 1892. It's from a...
A guy named McKay.
He was a dentist from Canada named McKay.
It's called In far away Formosa, I think.
And he talks all about the indigenous people, and he talks about Japanese and stuff, and he talks about how the Chinese were using intoxicants to mess up the indigenous people and all this stuff.
And so, in any case, the Taiwanese, they called the new Chinese that came over later, they called them Taros because they're more bitter, right?
And the original, let's say, Taiwanese that have been there 450 years, They have a different culture.
They have a different firmware.
They're more like Japanese and more like, you know, Thailand and Taiwan and Japan.
To me, they're quite similar.
I spend a lot of time in all of those places.
And in those three countries, Taiwan, Thailand, and Japan, they get along.
Look at that.
Like a love triangle, right?
I mean, that's those three.
They love each other, right?
And one old man that I was interviewing about 10 or 12 years ago in Taiwan, he told me that in the old days when Taiwanese people were accepted into the Imperial Japanese Army, they would have parades for them in the Taiwanese villages.
They had parades for them.
It was a great honor to be accepted into the Japanese army.
And there's still some Taiwanese that would like to rejoin with Japan, which obviously is unlikely to happen.
But there was a very significant cultural transfer and influence effect.
From Japanese culture to Taiwan culture, which is one of the reasons why I believe that Taiwan manufacturing became so capable, which I think led to Taiwan semiconductor leadership in the world.
I believe that is a remnant of the Japanese influence for precision.
Nobody builds more precise precision.
Electronics, engines, mechanical devices than the Japanese.
Not even the Germans.
Germans are good at building big, tough stuff at incredible expense.
But the Japanese can build precise, efficient devices and innovations at a reasonable cost.
At least that's my impression.
Would you agree with that?
Oh yeah, because when you see Taiwanese, I've often said this, they're like, They're kind of like a mixture between Thai and Japanese.
Taiwanese are special people.
Very special.
Absolutely.
They're extraordinary people.
I mean, their ability to...
But they're kind of, don't worry, be happy like Japanese are.
Like one time I was in Taiwan, I don't know, 10 years ago or so, and I was...
It was just me and a bunch of Taiwanese people in this big restaurant.
I wasn't with them.
I was alone.
And there were certain foods I wasn't sure quite how to eat this stuff.
And this old man, he must have been 90 years old or so, he came and he sat down beside me.
I don't understand Mandarin.
And he was showing me how to eat stuff, taking me back to the buffet, like, you know, get this and showing me how to eat it.
It was like that all the time, man.
I love Taiwanese people.
I mean, they're just like, that guy doesn't know what he's doing.
Let me go help him out.
Yep.
And so they're kind of a combination of that precision Japanese, like, get it right, and also don't worry, be happy Thailand.
And then they're just, I don't know, they're special.
They're extraordinary people.
I'd take every one of them in the United States.
If you're going to open the Darien Gap, I'd be like, just give us all the Taiwanese.
Yeah.
Well, I have great admiration for the Taiwanese people as well as Japanese and the South Koreans are very, very capable people as well.
I feel sorry for the North Koreans having suffered under that system because they're genetically identical in essence.
I mean, that's what happens when you're under a dictatorial, tyrannical regime for generations.
It saps the life out of your culture.
But, Michael, we need to wrap this up.
Any final thoughts here before we...
We put an end cap on this.
It's been a fascinating hour, that's for sure.
We need to go for another hour.
We could.
I feel like we could always do that.
I love coming on with you, Michael.
Because you know...
Like, your depth of knowledge is so high, you know what questions to ask.
Like, it's unbelievable.
I learn a lot during our interviews, actually.
Me too.
So I'm interviewing you, actually.
One of the things that you just said, and I'll be really quick.
I know you want to go.
But, like, for instance, it's the same genetics.
And I noticed that everywhere.
It's about the firmware.
Like, it's not that Chinese are bad.
I'll take every one of those Taiwanese people, except for the communist ones.
I don't want them.
But the Taiwanese in general, they will make great neighbors, right?
I mean, intermarry with them.
Everything else, they're great people.
And the firmware, their cultural firmware is quite good.
But then, same genetics, same Mandarin language over with the Han Chinese.
It can be a little tough, you know what I mean?
Totally, yeah.
To put it mildly.
So it's not the genes.
And it's not bad at all.
No.
And so, this is the thing.
I see this all over the world.
People will make these blanket statements like, well, the Chinese are such and such.
I'm like, actually, it's their firmware.
And if you can, you know, look at East Germany versus West Germany.
Yeah, like East Germany versus West Germany.
East Germany, the communist thing, and I was over in East Germany.
I'm like, you don't want to be around a bunch of East Germans at that time.
They were kind of problematic.
West Germany was great.
And anyway, I'll be quiet.
I know you want to go, Michael, but it's great talking with you.
Hey, you too, Michael.
Look, I always enjoy our conversations.
I just want to remind people to visit your website, which is michaelyan.substack.com.
It's probably the best way people can find you there.
And do you...
You need to put a donate button, I think.
Is that possible here?
I know you take donations, and you don't plug a bunch of stuff.
How can people donate to you?
Actually, I'll put it on the top of my X shortly.
I should.
I'm very bad at fundraising, and fundraising is how I do on my operations.
I know, I know.
The thing I'm worst about.
I'm trying to help you a little bit there.
Thank you, sir.
I'll put it on.
I'll talk with JBS about that.
Oh, so the Jew behind the scenes is the guy who handles the money.
Is that what you're saying?
No, he doesn't handle the money.
He doesn't handle the money at all.
He doesn't touch that.
Oh, okay.
But I ask him to help me run these websites.
That's why he publishes on my website.
On my Twitter, under JBS. Anytime you see JBS, that's Jew behind the scenes.
He doesn't do any of the money stuff.
Oh, okay.
That's too bad, because you almost had a living cliche right there.
Yeah.
Like, I got a Jew behind the scenes that handles the money, you know?
Yeah.
But...
Actually, I have to pay him.
That's perfect.
He has to do bad.
He's going to watch this and go, what are you talking about?
He's going to write me a nasty message.
All right.
No, we appreciate you, JBS. Keep up the great work and get some quality cigars.
I got a cigar hookup for you here in Texas.
If you ever come to Texas, you know who I'm talking about.
He gets them from the best place that I shall not mention.
All right.
But, Michael, it's been great.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
All right, sir.
Thank you, Michael.
Talk to you soon.
You too.
Take care now.
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and you do not want to miss this interview.
It's been too long since I've had Stan Johnson on.
He is the founder of ProphecyClub.com, and Stan aggregates prophecies.
He does more than that, but that's what he's known for doing.
He analyzes prophecies.
He receives prophecies himself, but he also talks to other people who are receiving prophecies through various means, and They believe they are shown visions or hearing words about what's about to happen involving the Middle East, involving America, involving today we're going to talk about suitcase nukes and so much more.
So welcome, Stan Johnson.
Welcome to the show again.
It's been too long, but it's great to have you back on.
Thanks for joining me today.
Thank you, sir.
It's an honor to be on.
Well, it's an honor to have you on, and we appreciate your work.
And again, prophecyclub.com is where people can find your work.
Now, Stan, give us, if you would please, I know we have a lot to talk about.
We'll have you back to talk about oil, but your topic today is suitcase nukes and events, chaos events that could strike the United States.
You want to give us a quick overview of that, and then we'll get into some questions?
Okay.
Well, in 1998, Prophecy Club...
We were putting people on speaking tours in those days to 30 or 40 cities a month.
About 5,000 people a month were attending our meetings.
Now around 1998, we put Stanislav Lunev on a speaking tour.
At the time, he was the highest-ranking Russian military officer ever to defect from Russia.
He made a Prophecy Club DVD called Russian Defector Warns America.
You can watch this DVD instantly at watchprophecyclub.com.
He says that he was part of a team sent from the Soviets to find locations to hide 50, quote, lost in Russia suitcase nuclear bombs lost back in the 1980s to be smuggled into the U.S. Well, that's one person.
Bible says in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let a thing be established.
Then, May 5th of 2003, Michael Boldea, grandson of Demetri Dudeman, had a dream.
He was shown suitcase nukes going off in California, Illinois, Michigan, Arizona, Washington State, Florida, and New York.
He says, I saw an outline of a map of America.
It outlines the states taking shape.
I saw small lights begin to flicker on and off in some of the states, California, Illinois, Michigan, Arizona, Washington State, Florida, and New York.
The light was rhythmic.
And he said, I don't understand.
What does this mean?
He said, these are the places where those who are sent here long ago to bring fear and chaos have situated themselves.
They lie in wait, planning and plotting destruction as coiled serpents, looking for the hour they'll be loosed on this nation.
Then October 15, 2004, he had another dream called Eagle and the Serpents.
And he was shown that there's three attacks on the eagle that would be coming.
The first one was 9-11.
The second one will be much, much worse, and it will come from an unexpected place.
And the third one would be her destruction.
There's more on that, but I've got so much I'm going to keep moving.
January 9, 2005. I had a dream.
I would ask the Lord, what is the next 9-11?
And I was shown that there's a series of sophisticated bombs by sophisticated experts By international bankers will be planted in several cities with one going off and hitting a regional bank, destroying the records and their backups, which would put billions of dollars into the hands of the international bankers.
I'm going to keep moving.
2005, Congressman Kurt Weldon, Vice Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, uncovered a plot to set explosives in 10 cities.
He couldn't get the authorities to act, so he wrote a book called Countdown to Terror.
This is a copy of the book.
Wait, what year was that published again?
That was 2005. Okay.
The ten cities were Valdez, Alaska, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Boston, New York, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, and Houston.
Then in 2013, we had Doug Metzger in.
He made a DVD called Will You Survive America's Fall, also available at WatchProphecyClub.com.
In which he reports, he was shown a vision of suitcase nukes hitting Los Angeles, New York, Las Vegas, Washington, D.C., Chicago, San Francisco, Houston, Seattle, Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, and Denver.
Dennis Augusto Perez had a vision.
I was watching TV, he said.
When I started to see the TV screen, very large explosions taking place in major cities across America, many people died from the explosions.
Then, let me skip on to the next one.
Then Vicki Parnell, 16 of 22, had a short vision.
I heard hypersonic thermal nuclear warhead.
I kept hearing it over and over.
I never heard it before except this.
I began seeing a vision of eight black suitcases.
This is what the suitcases looked like.
She shows a drawing.
Then I heard, quote, eight suitcases, eight bombs and suitcases hidden in America to be detonated, and that was all.
Then Henry Groover, This is March 2016. Well, one second.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I have to ask you here.
Do some of these, are they coalescing on certain timeframes that seem to align?
Okay, you want to know when.
I've got an idea.
Matter of fact, that's coming in just a second.
Okay.
Okay, so now this ties together, if you want to know the timing.
So March of 2016. We had 160 guest speakers make 330 DVDs and of all of those speakers over 25 years, my most favorite speaker of me and most people was Henry Gruber.
Henry had a vision.
When Henry says he heard from God, I know he heard from God.
He said, now this is a summarized version.
He says, I opened the door and Donald Trump and his wife were standing at my front door.
Dressed like a king, his wife was wearing a shawl on her left arm made of gold tweed with big royal jewels on it.
Mr. Trump, to what do I owe the honor of this visit?
He said, oh, Henry, never mind.
We're family.
This is just a visit.
I just came to see you.
He sits.
His wife puts shawl over his shoulders and drapes down in front of him and stands beside him.
It was beautiful, made for royalty.
The visit was strictly family, asking about our different children, how they are, how they were visiting, Finally stands up and says, well, I've got a lot to do.
You know, I'll be back.
I'll be back.
Now, he said it twice.
After the lemon drove off, I realized he'd left his shawl.
I ran outside to try to wave him down, but I heard the voice speak again and say, he'll be back.
Now, I believe Trump is going to be back in charge.
Hang on, there's more.
Then, 7.30 of 2021, Jason Meeks, another prophet, The dream started when I stopped by an ATM machine to get some cash for the toll road.
I put in my card, got $20 out.
But before I drove, I realized I needed more cash.
I put my card back in, got another $20.
But now the receipt was $42, just for ATM fee, which is usually $1 or $2.
As we drove back home, I stopped by a major bank.
TV screens were showing massive arrests.
That's a key.
Want to know when the suitcase nukes were coming?
That's a key.
TV screens were showing massive arrests.
An alert went out on my cell phone that DJT, Donald John Trump, was assuming control as the new president.
I expected people would be rioting and looting, but they were happy, celebrating in the streets of someone like VJ Day after World War II. In the dream, a man came to me and started crying how all of his bosses had been arrested and rounded up, telling me he was now in charge of the bank.
He was a Christian and had been praying for this for years.
The news was showing people being handcuffed, rounded up, and put on planes like commercial jetliners.
The men that were being arrested were all type of weird dress, almost like they were in the Middle East, but more effeminate.
As people took to the streets in victory and celebration, here comes the part you want to hear.
We joined in.
We jumped on the back of the firetruck to catch a ride in the parade because the streets were so full you could not walk.
Everything was amazing.
Then I heard a huge explosion.
A suitcase nuke had been detonated within the city.
I didn't see the explosion, but the shock wave from it.
We jumped off the truck, ran into a restaurant, jumped behind the bar for protection, but the blast was not that bad for us.
Now, let me skip to the point.
He says, in his dream, I knew that the man had something to do with suitcase nuke.
DJT did not know that this man was an evil traitor.
Let me skip part of that.
Benjamin Fulford was contacted by some of the ruling elite, the Moloch worshippers, the really, really bad guys, the guys that are behind the deep state, behind and above precedent, and they said, we have ruled this planet for thousands of years, and we'll destroy it rather than give it up.
We believe that there's about to be a new financial system coming in.
That's right, the old Federal Reserve system going bye-bye, and perhaps It could even happen December and January as in the next 60 days.
When that happens, the prophecies say that there's going to be massive arrests.
Massive arrests.
Those are the audible words I heard in a dream.
Massive arrests.
That's right.
A lot of the bad guys are going to be rounded up.
Now, that sounds like that'd be good, but Demetri Duterman, April 3rd of 1984, had the angel Gabriel come to him and he said, get beside me.
I'm going to show you the future of America.
He took and showed him California, Las Vegas, New York, and Florida.
He said, you see what I've shown you?
He says, this is Sodom and Gomorrah, and one day it will burn.
He said, how will it burn?
America is so powerful.
He said, the fall of America will start with an internal revolution in America, started by the communists.
Some of the people will start fighting against the government.
The government will be busy with internal problems.
Then from the oceans, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries will attack and defeat America in one day and one hour.
So great riches will come tonight, Revelation 18 and other scriptures.
In other words, when the new financial system comes out, the evil people that have been ruling us since at least back to the pyramid days are not going to be happy.
And so they're going to set their goal to tear down America.
The good guys, essentially we're talking about a big battle.
The good guys are trying to replace the bad guys.
And at the end of the day, we know the Antichrist does come.
We know the mark of the beast does come.
We know that Jesus returns for Armageddon to defeat them.
So we know This is the attempt of the good guys trying to rise up and throw off the bad guys, but the suitcase nukes are their attempt saying, we've ruled you for thousands of years, or we'll destroy you rather than give you up.
Now let me go on to the next one.
Well, hold on a second, Stan.
I mean, we've got to have a conversation here, right?
I've got so many questions that have come up.
Some of this, I mean, I'm going to ask what I think some of our audience is asking, and they're going to be, of course, a lot of skeptical people.
Some of what you just said sounds like Q. It sounds like the white hats are going to come in.
They're going to be mass arrests.
There's going to be a new quantum financial system.
And with respect, and I'll give you a chance to answer this, but a lot of the Q stuff...
You know, there's been all these promises at this date, this is going to happen, and so on, and these arrests.
And it's been, not only has it been fantasy, but many people believe it's been deep state actors running the whole Q PSYOP. What would you say to someone who had that question?
Well, I don't know anything about Q, and none of what I just said had anything to do with Q, nor did I get it from Q. I've heard that Q was supposed to be military intelligence.
I don't know.
I get this from Holy Servants of God.
I get this from the Bible.
I can show you six chapters in the Bible.
I mean, God has confirmed this to me many, many ways.
I mean, this is the primary reason I live and breathe is to tell people that, yes, you are the mystery of Babylon, of Revelation 18, Jeremiah 15, 51. Was it Isaiah 13, 21?
We are in the Bible.
The problem is, is we don't want to think we are.
We want to believe that we're not going to see any trouble.
That's what a lot of our pastors teach us.
How do you...
I think I asked you this question the last time you were on.
And understand, my life was saved by a voice from an angel decades ago.
So I know that this is real.
But how do you discern...
From other people.
I mean, when you receive information yourself, that's easy because you're experiencing it.
It's a knowing or it's a voice or it's a vision.
Sometimes it's just knowing without words.
It's a very good question.
I've got an answer.
Okay, please.
Okay, first of all, it's got to line up with the Bible.
Second, it's got to line up with Demetri Duderman because I met him.
I spent a lot of time with him.
I went to his home.
He came to my home several times.
We put him on many, many city speaking tours.
But I also have something else.
About 25 years ago I was talking to a person possibly going to invite them to become a speaker that we would spend a lot of money on put on a 10 or 15 city speaking tour.
It was a very big decision.
And all of a sudden I started yawning.
I mean, I started yawning so bad I could barely even talk to the guy.
And that was the beginning of God using a yawn to speak to me saying no.
And then other times, he would, the anointing would touch me, which feels like just, I like touching my hair sometimes.
Sometimes it's heavier.
But I get a yawn when it's a no, and I get a touch of the anointing when it's a yes, and feels different ways.
And there's been times when I've been flipping through my emails.
I get a lot of emails from people, hey, check this out, look at this YouTube, or this whatever, the corner, you know, whatever it is.
And I think, man, that's nothing.
All of a sudden, the anointing touches me.
There's been, I get probably 10 to 20 hours a day of various videos sent to me.
I have to make a lot of decisions about whether this is God when this is not God.
And so that's like a major call in my life to decide When it's God.
And there's a lot of stuff out there that people think it's God, and it's just not God.
So that's a major call.
Okay, well thank you for answering that.
What would you say...
I've interviewed other pastors, and I've asked the question, which I'll ask you, but let me share their answer first.
I've said, you know, is it all preordained?
Is it going to happen exactly as it is written?
Or...
Are humans still in charge in any way whatsoever?
And I've had other pastors tell me that, and I know this might sound like heresy, they have said that what's written in the book of Revelation is a warning, but it doesn't have to happen that way if we change our ways.
Wrong!
So I want your reaction to that.
Let me jump in here.
I've earned the right to talk about this.
In 2017, I memorized the book of Revelation.
I didn't think anything special was going to happen, but something special did start happening.
I started getting revelations.
I got 30 revelations, two visions, and one audible voice.
And the audible voice, well, helped me to lay out, and one of the visions showed me a secret door, one word, the word firstfruits, found in Leviticus 23.10 and Revelation 14.4.
That links the prophecies of Revelation to the Feast of Leviticus 23. And for the first time, we can correctly understand the book of Revelation.
As a matter of fact, I wrote this book, Secret Door to Understand Bible Prophecy, as a result of it, and it has sold lots and lots and lots of copies.
Okay, it's called Understand Bible Prophecy?
Yes, The Secret Door to Understand Bible Prophecy.
Okay.
You can get it at prophecyclub.com.
Secret door to understand Bible prophecy, prophecyclub.com.
Now, back to your question.
Okay, hold on.
I just want to bring that up, too, and show people.
If you can show my laptop screen, here it is on Amazon as well.
But people can get it at prophecyclub.com.
Yeah, yeah, get it at prophecyclub.com.
Yeah, obviously.
Don't get it at Amazon.
Don't get it at Amazon.
Okay, and let me show Prophecy Club here.
So where do people get your books online?
On ProphecyClub.com.
Well, scroll to the bottom.
Oh, scroll to the bottom?
Scroll down, scroll.
Those are where you can watch our daily program.
Scroll down a little bit more.
A little bit more.
Right there, in the center.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
There's the book.
Those are the other four books that are written.
Got it.
Okay.
All right.
I just want to make sure people can see that.
Okay.
Okay, so now, these words are true and faithful, is what John was told.
So the things that are written in the book of Revelation will come to pass.
And I would love to think that we get to heaven and America's never destroyed and none of the things ever happened.
And we're able to ask Jesus, hey, why didn't it happen?
Well, I'd like to hear America repented.
But no, the things that are written in the book of Revelation, they're not warnings.
I mean, they are because Jesus likes to see us turn around and repent.
They are prophecies.
They will come to pass, absolutely, positively, without question.
And that's the reason, I mean, the angel Gabriel came to Demetri and showed him things.
And I've got many other people that will tell you of the angel Gabriel, other angels come to them and confirm the things written in Revelation.
Yes, absolutely, Revelation will come to pass.
So what does that mean then about human free will?
I mean, just a philosophical, spiritual conversation.
If humans, if we can't change our future, we're locked in, let's say.
Well, no, you said that correct.
We can change our future.
We can't change the Bible.
It's going to happen.
A lot of the prophecies, like for example, well, like some of them given to Demetrius, some of them given to Dana Coverstone and others, those, many of those, most of those are warnings.
Those are things that Jesus does not want to bring forth.
That's why he's spoken them because he wants, like the suitcase nukes, he likes to see that stock, but I got 34 different people that have seen dreams and visions and audible voices and angel visits and like Kurt Will and Actual investigations.
There are 35 suitcase nukes in America that will go off.
Wait, wait, wait.
There are 35 in place right now?
Yes.
And are these left over from the Soviet Union?
Is that what they are?
Well, actually, the story is, back in the 80s, the Soviet Union made 250 of them.
But 50 of them reportedly got smuggled into America, but the best prophecy on it says there's actually 35 in America.
So I want to believe there's 35 rather than 50. So in whose hands do you think that these are our place right now?
I mean, you mentioned some of the groups, but I guess the deep state?
No, no.
I can explain.
Okay, please.
I can explain.
Okay, so when Moses came down off of Mount Sinai in August the 8th of 2022, I climbed Mount Sinai.
So the things I'm talking to you about, I know what I'm talking about.
Anyway, when he came down off Mount Sinai, And he looked down, he saw them worshiping a molten calf.
The name of that calf is Moloch.
In later scriptures, the Bible calls it Baal.
Well, those are the people, I mean, when Moses saw them, that's when he broke the Ten Commandments, because that is the very epitome of evil.
That is the worst religion on the planet.
They worship Lucifer directly, and they are the ones that say, we've ruled the planet for thousands of years, we'll destroy it rather than give it up.
These are the people, when the Pharaohs were ruling, that's the spirit behind the Pharaohs.
That's the spirit behind the international bankers today.
So, yeah, it's the Molochs.
And they worship a golden calf, literally.
And that golden calf, I mean, I'll tell you more about that, but give me off subject.
Well, let me...
Okay, but let me ask you this.
A lot of people, they...
They're already tired of the suffering and living through the dark times that we're living through, and a lot of people are wondering how much suffering, how many years of suffering is it going to be before the return of Christ and the thousand years of abundance and the golden age.
Are we in, I mean, you have a book here on pre-trib, how pre-trib won.
Are we in tribulation right now, in your view, or what's the timeline look like?
Well, you asked some good questions here.
You come right to the point.
Well, yeah, I mean, we have limited time here, so I'm jumping to it.
No, no, that's a good interviewer that can ask exactly the right questions.
I have three people, Vicki Parnell, And Terry Bennett and Byron Searle, all three, say that the Lord told them that the first seal, which starts the seven-year tribulation, has been opened.
I myself personally, I'm unwilling to say that we're in the tribulation yet.
I'm not in a big hurry because I know that as someone in the world of Bible prophecy, if you miss, you've just about killed your ministry.
So until I'm absolutely positively sure, I'm not going to say we're in the tribulation.
What you really want to know is just how close are we?
I think that we are really close, and there's probably a good probability that we are in the tribulation, but I'm unwilling to say yet.
I'd like to think that it could be delayed someplace in there.
I do think that some hard times Matter of fact, I just hung up with another great man of God.
He does a miracles ministry, travels the globe, literally.
He just got back from Sri Lanka, I guess, here this past week.
And he said, I don't have it right in front of me, but he said that we can travel between now and April.
He said, but after April, you don't want to be traveling because the Lord has told me there's going to be a lot of trouble.
A lot of trouble in the globe.
And I can give you some good reasons why I say that.
So yeah, I think real close.
So One of the things that's frustrating for some people who are watching, all of these people who are people of great faith and people who are devoted to God and Christ's teachings and so on, but they disagree on, you know, obviously all these things like tribulation, pre-trib, post-trib, or whether the rapture is going to happen or no rapture at all.
You know, there's so much disagreement that And it's difficult for a lot of people, including myself, looking at this and hearing the different interpretations.
And then, you know, reading the book of Revelation, there's a lot of symbolism, obviously.
It's not like a calendar that just tells you, you know, on January 2nd, this is going to happen, right?
It's open to a lot of interpretation.
How do you make sense of it, and how should someone like myself or our audience, how should they...
Attempt to make sense of this when so many people have different analysis.
I believe that that's the reason God gave me the information in this book.
In the back part of the book, it has these charts.
I can show you a better picture of the chart, but it actually has the chart here.
I don't know if you're able to see that or not.
Yeah, we can see it.
That's fascinating.
I mean, I can't read it, but I can see the shapes.
In the back of the book, it has those charts, and it lays it out.
And it helps you to understand how the seven...
Matter of fact, the audible voice said the seven seals play over seven years, the seven trumpets play over seven months, and the seven vials play over seven days, meaning the last seven days.
When you understand that, all of a sudden, a lot of the things in Revelation get put in correct order.
I think that this book is going to sell millions of copies.
Oh, I want a copy, that's for sure.
It is a, it tells, see that's what, what you just said is what everybody wants to know.
Everybody wants to, can you make sense of all this?
Right, right, exactly.
Who has the truth?
Who can help me to really understand this?
The answer is right here.
Here's what people say about the book.
This one lady came up for me to sign it at the signing table.
She says, I want to tell you, I've got your skinny little book.
Skinny little book.
She says, I thought I'll blow through that in three hours.
She says, that was two weeks ago.
It's a lot.
Some months later, she says, well, I did get all the way through it, but she says, that's a deep book.
It's not complicated.
But that's a deep book because this book explains the book of Revelation.
It finally does.
Okay, I'm going to get your book because that chart, already you have me very intrigued.
I want to go through that chart.
Well, this is what I call the grandfather.
This is the most important of the charts.
I don't know if you can see that.
Yeah, we're seeing it.
Okay.
You see, it has barley harvest, wheat harvest.
I mean, I'd be happy to come on and explain those charts too.
But what one of the visions told me is to put it in a book.
Because the Lord said, something cannot be learned by audio and video alone.
Some things have to be written and typed out for people to understand.
That's why he said, put it in a book.
And to this day, I have not got one email.
My email's all over the book.
Not one email saying, you're crazy.
You got a hole in you.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Not one.
Everybody that reads the book understands.
I think it's at the Lord.
I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say it's on the order of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but I will say it's not on the order of Stan Johnson.
I had supernatural help writing this book.
All right.
Fantastic.
Just a practical question.
What does it mean on your website?
It says five books in a set.
Are you selling these five at a time?
Is that what that means?
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, yeah.
This book, here's the way we're working on this one.
I don't want to sell just one book.
This one book is $20.
We tell people, don't do that.
You can get five books for $35, 10 books for $60.
We put them together.
As a matter of fact, this one is actually offered in a shrink-wrapped set of five.
Some of the other books, like How Preachery of One, is a shrink-wrapped set of 10. We want you to get extra copies.
It makes great Christmas presents.
Once you read three or four pages of this book, you'll probably complete it.
Same thing with Miss the Mark.
Miss the Mark is the number one selling book because I tell people, look, if you read three pages, you'll read the book and hand it to people that are not even Christians.
They'll read it.
And when they start reading it, they can't put it down because those people that take the mark do not get soul death.
They are tossed in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone with the beast, the false prophet, and then a thousand years later, Lucifer is added to them and those people that take the mark.
If they take the mark, that is the worst in existence.
Absolutely.
Nobody in our audience is going to take the mark.
Okay, now I have another question for you.
And by the way, I really appreciate, Stan, the fact that I may be asking some pretty radical questions.
You're not biting my head off or anything.
I really appreciate it.
I got the answer.
You're a professional.
And I love the fact we can have this conversation.
So, preterism.
What about the theory that the book of Revelation already happened in 70 A.D.? You know, I've heard people talking about that.
What would your answer be to someone who's an advocate of that?
My, my, my.
Okay.
I can take any.
That's the easy one.
Okay, okay.
All right.
Because there's so many scriptures that have not been fulfilled.
I mean, we haven't seen Jesus come back.
We haven't seen him riding on a white horse yet.
And the book of Revelation has not been fulfilled yet.
That's...
That's clear.
Error.
Yeah, that's deception.
Okay.
That's deception.
But it's just another example of how there's this whole spectrum of different interpretations.
And I would think that clearly...
Satan, it puts some people and some voices into the space to try to confuse some people.
I mean, clearly, if you're Satan, you're the grand deceiver, and that's what you do.
So, surely, over this whole spectrum of people who say they're talking about prophecy, there must be a few, you know, minions of Satan involved in that who are trying to deceive people on purpose.
Have you ever encountered that, or you think you've found that before?
There's a lot of deception out there.
I mean, even Jesus said in the last days there would be great deception of people coming up saying, I'm Christ.
And he says, don't believe them.
And it's sad that there are so many Christians that are so deceived.
But again, I think that's why he gave me this book.
If they'll read this book and study this book, I mean, it's a six by nine.
Let me back up.
I had to put on really thin paper.
Although it looks like it's thin, it's actually 86,000 words.
Yeah, that's a sizable book.
It will help.
It'll answer so many of their questions.
They will absolutely, if they want to know the truth, they will absolutely, positively love this book.
They will love it.
Alright, well that goes on my Christmas reading list right there to the top of the list.
I'm going to get one, or a set of five, and I'm going to go through that myself.
And then for our next interview, maybe I'll have a little bit more understanding.
Because I appreciate you putting up with the fact that I don't have anywhere near the knowledge that you've outlined in that book.
I'm just asking as someone who's a person of faith, but we don't know...
It's hard to navigate.
That's all I'm saying.
So thanks for doing the book.
Thank you.
Now, can we get back to what Yes.
Do you want to continue talking with more evidence on suitcase news?
Well, no, I want to talk about the New Madrid Fault and the tsunami prophecies, if you could touch on those.
Absolutely, I can jump to it.
Okay, I've got the note here.
In February 2014, we invited Prophet Ephraim Rodriguez...
And from Puerto Rico, he was a prophet shown a vision that a meteor would hit Monro Island, which is a little deserted island just west of Puerto Rico.
And it was shown that it would cause a thousand foot tsunami at Puerto Rico.
But then it would send a tsunami up the east coast anywhere from 200 to 400 foot high and go inland anywhere from 25 to 100 miles inland.
Where it hits is an earthquake fault running up the Mississippi River Valley that would open up the Great Lakes all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico and cause large chunks of California from California all the way up into Alaska to begin to fall into the ocean.
I know we've all heard about this for years, but in our case, let me pull it up.
I've got 14, excuse me, 17 prophecies, 17 different people That say a meteor, a tsunami, and an earthquake will hit.
I've got 14 different people that say America is about to experience a food shortage.
11 say the dollar is about to fall.
We probably ought to talk about that because January 1, 2024, the BRICS nations and 41 other nations Go live with their asset-backed currency, and it's going to, according to what Shane Warren was told back in 2010, it's going to cause the dollar to fall.
And what the prophecies say, it will fall 30% overnight.
No warning, no gradual stuff.
50%, 66%, and then finally worthless as leaves blowing in the wind.
That's all part of-- I have no doubt that's where the dollar is going.
I mean, but even without prophecy, just straight economics, that's where the dollar is going.
But then you're saying the people who are receiving the prophecies are just confirming this.
Right.
And I completely agree with that assessment.
However, the BRICS nations, my understanding is it might take a little bit longer in 2024 for the actual international settlements to ramp up outside the dollar.
But I agree with what you just said.
January 1, more nations joined the BRICS plus group.
And that includes Saudi Arabia, by the way.
And the UAE just announced last week, I know you follow the news very closely, but the UAE just announced they've abandoned the dollar for oil settlements.
So that prophecy is happening.
It's coming true in real news events.
Let me paint a picture of what I see.
While the financial system could fall between now and the end of December, probably we're talking about Between now and the end of January, probably we're going to see a new financial system come in.
And I was talking with what I call my white hat banker friend, and he's been in banking 22 years, and I can't even begin to talk about who he is, but he's got some really high connections.
And he says, they're looking, I'll tell you this, they're looking for three things.
They're looking for the removal of Biden, A war crisis, which Israel fulfilled, but he told me this was coming before the war in Israel started.
Now, he didn't say it's going to be Israel, but he said that there's going to be a war crisis coming.
The removal of Biden and also the fall of the dollar.
Now, the way we picture that is that they'll just come out one day and say the dollar has gone down in value.
Some people think that the way it'll happen is we'll just wake up in the morning and those people that say had a thousand dollars in the bank now have 700 and then we wake up another time and now that 700 is down to 500 and then the other time is down to 300 and everything starts going up March 25th of 2022 Chris Reed had an angel visit him And he said the angel stood before him with a $50 bill in his hand and he tore off one third
of it.
Then people began handing him newspapers with headlines.
These are some of the headlines that'll answer your question.
The first one was the headline, U.S. dollar drops 30% in value, subtitle, Middle Eastern oil strikes deal with China instead of the U.S. That's what you just said.
The perfect storm, subtitle, inflation reaches new high.
That makes sense.
Yep.
Food shortage crisis as wheat and bread imports are at a stalemate.
We need to talk about Joseph Kitchen too.
And we've seen a global shortage of rice in place right now as well because India banned rice exports.
So that's in play too.
Well it's not just India.
I mean also Ukraine has and also Russia.
There's been several nations saying we're not exporting anymore.
That's right.
And Coverstone saw that all of the ships on the globe Stop.
All of them.
All of them stop on the globe.
And Pastor Maci, which called me this morning, told me, I don't know, a year ago, that all of the 18-wheelers would stop.
He said, I saw all the 18-wheelers in America stop.
That stops, and America feels bad real quick.
But that would imply maybe an energy embargo against America or something of that kind, just a lack of diesel fuel.
I think you don't understand what the Molochs are doing.
They're trying to destroy America so that they can bring their man, the Antichrist, in to make him sit on the Ark of the Covenant.
That is their goal, period.
And they do not mind taking down America or any other nation or any other person or group of people that stands in their way.
Oh, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Is the Antichrist, is that someone who's already been born and we don't know who it is yet?
First of all, no, he's not born.
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
Already came into existence, yes.
No, no, it's okay.
What I do is help people understand Revelation.
He has been falling endlessly and helplessly in the bottomless pit.
He is the beast that ascended out of the bottomless pit and goeth into perdition, the Bible says.
Now, when he comes out of the pit, some people say he has, then he will come into a body.
Some people say it's going to be McCrone.
I'm not convinced of that.
I don't know who it is.
I'm not convinced he's actually on our planet yet.
Now, if he is out of the falling pit, I don't know.
We don't have that information.
I think it's possibly any day now.
Okay.
But whenever that day emerges, I think it's critical for our audience to remember, and of course I want your comments on this, but that person will be so charismatic that most of the world will support that being, that entity inside that human body, and that person will claim to be in favor of world peace and will have world followers.
And how many of our own Americans, our fellow Americans, are going to be deceived into supporting the Antichrist?
Here's the scary part.
Most Christians, you're not going to like what I'm about to say, most Christians will be deceived to the point to where they will take the mark of the beast.
Oh my, no!
Yo, you don't understand what's coming if you question that, because there is such challenging days coming Most people on the planet will have the opportunity to deny Jesus in order to get the mark.
Because if you don't deny Jesus, then you don't get into the new digital global system.
And in order to get into that, you have to take the mark of the beast.
And if you don't, the Bible says you can't buy or sell.
Let me go back.
Let me ask you quickly, because we only have a few minutes left, and I want to give you a chance also to mention some of the other solutions that you offer.
But is this mark of the beast, is this going to be an embedded microchip or a tattoo, or what do you think it's going to be?
We already know what the mark of the beast looks like.
I mean, again, I can show you.
It's in the books.
But it'll look like a Mexico sun...
And then it goes right here, and it's just a yellow tattoo with the hand in the middle of the tattoo again.
Or it goes right here.
Again, I can, if we could...
So it's a digital tattoo that commerce systems read?
No, it has nothing to do with digital.
Okay, so I'm about to tell you something else here.
This is the digital tattoo.
Your cell phone is not your friend.
Yeah, that's for sure.
They're coming out with a new cell phone, and this cell phone will not make phone calls.
This cell phone is going to give you access into the new Skylink.
Remember Skynet in the Terminator movie?
Well, Skylink, this will connect with Skylink, and it'll connect to the quantum computers, and you will buy and sell everything through this new, about the size of a cell phone, but it's not a cell phone.
But the way it'll work is you can't put in kind of a cover on it because as you pick it up it is always reading your fingerprints, it is always taking your voice print, your face print, all of it.
It's always you can hand it to someone else but they cannot access your systems without that because if it doesn't have all three of those biometrics you cannot access the system.
It'll all be digital and I mean, I just talked to a person Tuesday that told me some really inside information in it.
Anyway, so this this cell phone is going to be linked to this new digital quantum system and they're going to give everybody on the planet an account.
But in order to get an in the account, they're going to put a large amount of money.
We don't know the amount of money, but let's say it's fifty thousand dollars.
But in order to get your $50,000 and your $1,000 a week or whatever it is, you've got to access your account.
That means you've got to come forward, you've got to give them your eye scan, your face scan, your voice print, your fingerprint, all of that, and you get your little phone.
Right, so you've just sold your soul.
The chip will not be in your hand.
It's only a tattoo in here or here.
Wow.
That's the way it will work.
Okay.
And for a lot of people, that's going to be very seductive because they need the money because of the economic collapse and the collapse of the dollar.
So they're going to sell their soul to join the system, not realizing they've just been captured.
Wow.
Absolutely.
Okay, Stan, we're almost out of time.
I want to give you a chance to talk about some of the other solutions.
You've got something for EMP. You've got wheat.
Tell us about those, please.
So let me explain.
So About two years ago, somebody sent me this video of a lady talking in church, talking about the value of whole wheat.
I ordered some of the wheat berries and a grinder, and I ground the wheat berries into wheat flour, as she was talking about, made some bread.
We like this.
So my wife says, well, if you're going to start doing this, you better order a bread machine to do all the kneading and the cooking and everything.
So I ordered one when we started making the bread, and we liked it.
And then it kept coming to me that this is God's famine food.
Okay, remember the Pharaoh and Joseph and the seven years of plenty followed by the seven years of famine.
So he began laying in my heart that this is his way to feed people with wheat.
And of course, you know, we are called wheat.
Remember the wheat and the tariff story?
So it may be that Jesus calls us wheat because that's really what we're supposed to be eating.
Long story short is I started a company called Joseph Kitchen.
I gave it to my daughter.
She runs it, does a wonderful job with it, but they have put together a whole package.
Here's what you do.
Go to josephskitchen.com.
There's an S on it.
josephskitchen.com.
And you need to order a machine package.
That's the grinder to take the wheat berries, put it into flour, put it into the bread machine, two hours and push about two hours, 20 minutes later, you got a nice hot steaming loaf of whole wheat bread.
Okay, we have your website up here, Joseph's Kitchen.
There you go.
There you go.
And then you want to decide how much food you want.
Food one person a year, two people a year, four people for a year, or six people for a year.
And the food comes in pails, so it's going to last 25 years, and I mean the wheat.
And most of your time storage places, most of those are $9,000 or $10,000 to feed one person for a year.
At Joseph Kitchen, using wheat, you can feed one person for about $1,000 a year, maybe even under $1,000 a year.
Don't forget the butter, though.
I mean, that's a lot of bread to eat.
I mean, you're going to want some, you know, you're going to want to spice it up a little bit along the way.
No, they've got lots of recipes.
You can sign up for a monthly recipe.
Anyway, so that's where I'd recommend you go for Joseph Kitchen.
Okay, and then tell us about your EMP solution.
We're almost out of time.
So when the suitcase nukes go off, of course, that EMP, the electromagnetic pulse, fries every computer chip within, like, I don't know, what, 20 miles around.
Fries them.
Kills them.
They're dead and they're not coming back to life.
But a company called EMP Shield has made a device like this.
And I have one on every one of my cars.
They also have a device for your home so that when that goes off, your car starts.
Wow.
Several prophecies that say that people were walking.
Everywhere.
Standing in line for food where they walk.
Why?
Because, and also just walked away from gas stations because their cars won't start.
If you have an electronic fob, you can't even get into your car.
That's right.
Unless you have one of these.
And if you use the promo code PROPHECY, you get a $50 discount.
And of course, it helps your prophecy class.
So where do people find these on your website?
But this is, well, you can find this on the website, yes.
Or you can go to EMP Shield.
EMPShield.com.
Just use the promo code Prophecy.
Got it.
Okay.
EMPShield.com.
Use discount code Prophecy.
EMPShield.com.
Yep.
That's it.
That's it.
There you go.
Got it.
Promo code Prophecy.
And they got videos on there where you can show you how to answer.
All you do is just peel off the back.
Peel off the back.
Stick it on the inside of your car.
Look up the red side of the red side of your battery.
The black side of the black side of the green side of your body.
And you're good to go.
All right, Stan.
Thank you for giving us an intro to those solutions.
And I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me today and to answer some of my rather blunt questions.
But that's what I like about talking with you is you're not afraid to take on questions at all.
I participated in a three-hour debate about the rapture, whether it was pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
So I have to be pretty well studied.
That's true.
I'm pretty well studied, and I can answer your questions.
That's what I do, and I'd love to be back again.
Okay, we'll have you back.
We'll talk.
I think Brighteon is great, and I'll Well, thank you.
And you have a channel on Brighton as well, right?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
So I can encourage folks to check out your channel, Prophecy Club.
It's on brighton.com as well as prophecyclub.com.
And sorry we're out of time, but I want to thank you, Stan, for taking the time with us today.
God bless you, and I appreciate what you do.
I'm going to get your book.
That's my reading list.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me on.
All right.
Take care.
Have a great day.
All right.
Thank you all for watching.
I hope you found that informative and fascinating and thought-provoking as well.
Really appreciate your support, and that's why we can have guests on like Stan and talk about these subjects without censorship.
Isn't that great?
We're not censored here.
I don't censor any of the guests.
They're free to say what they wish to say.
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