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Dec. 17, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Steven and Jana Ben-Nun reveal the shocking truths about Israel’s APARTHEID STATE structure...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, the free speech video network and platform.
Feel free to use it.
Today we're going to exercise free speech with our guests, our returning guests, Stephen and Yana Ben-Nun from IsraeliNewsLive.org.
And as you may have guessed from the name of their website, we're going to talk about Israel and the Middle East and things that are happening.
So welcome both of you to the show today.
It's an honor to have you back on.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Mike.
Always a pleasure to get to be on your program and to share some amazing insights with your guest.
Well, it's great to have you on as well.
And this is the first time we've spoken with Jana, your wife.
So welcome, Jana.
Thank you, Mike.
I'm really happy to be here.
And it's an honor.
Thank you.
Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to join us with, I think, a very important message.
So, Stephen, let's start with sort of the big news that you believe is urgent to get across right now.
Everybody's watching what's happening with Israel and the Middle East, the collapse of Syria.
Assad basically just gave up and flew away, I guess.
And now Israel is expanding its Greater Israel Project towards Damascus right this minute.
The Middle East is in shock over this.
What do you make of this?
Or is that where you want to begin?
Or is there something else that's more important?
We can start there.
And then I think with Yano's amazing knowledge on the Noahide laws and Eden plan as well, that'll really go really good into this.
But I will just say in brief on this, What people are witnessing right now is truly the biblical fulfillment of Isaiah 17. But what they don't know, and this is sadly,
Mike, this is what a lot of people are never paying attention to, Is that the fall of Damascus to become a ruinous heat is a direct result, according to Isaiah verse 9 in the same chapter, because of the children of Israel.
And it says, too, because they have forgotten their God.
And then oddly enough, the very next verse, and I'm just paraphrasing, it says there that they were not mindful of their rock.
To me, that kind of signifies both the Zionist Christianity and the modern state of Israel, the Jewish people that are living there now, are going against the most ancient biblical land for the early Christians, which is Damascus, which we know Paul was sent there to destroy all the believers there to lay waste to it.
I've always held the fact that he didn't go then because God knew that it wasn't supposed to be destroyed at that time.
And truly, when President Bashar al-Assad and Osama, his wife, They were the last defenders of Christianity.
And they're painting a very horrible picture about this amazing couple, but they were really true defenders for Christianity.
And Christianity has survived in Damascus now for 2,000 years.
And I won't go into it right now, but maybe near the end of the broadcast, there are some amazing discoveries that I discovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls because I speak Hebrew, I study these documents, And it is clearly the Damascus people that were there,
they were writing the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Damascus document, and they knew that this was coming, and they knew the evil of those that were in Jerusalem, the Pharisees, as Jesus referred to them back in his day, that this would happen in the future.
Alright, so this is a lot to unpack already, but let me start with a question back at you here.
Now, clearly Christians are under great threat now in Syria.
And they've also, Christians have been bombed in Lebanon by the IDF and some Christians, of course, in Gaza as well, Christian hospitals and so on.
Christians are in grave danger in the entire region.
At the same time, What do we make?
I mean, Syria's collapsing into a Libya-like state, where there's strongmen tribes, and I've seen people strung up on ropes being hanged to death.
But what about Assad, these dungeon prisons that we're told are being emptied of people who have been kept in these dungeons for decades?
Decades in some cases for, you know, speaking out against Assad.
Was he a cruel leader or are we being lied to?
What's your take on that?
It's hard to know if we're being lied to in this case here.
And the reason why I say that, back in 2018, I did a special broadcast on the sarin gas attack inside of Syria.
Oh, that was a total lie.
Exactly.
Erin Erdogan, along with another girl, an American journalist, was uncovering that, where it was being worked with under Barack Obama, the former president of the U.S., Hillary Clinton smuggling the sarin gas out of Libya, sending that into Turkey.
And Erdogan was very much involved in the transfer of that to the to the ISIS militants to use against the Syrian people and then blame it on Bashar al-Assad.
If it wasn't Aaron Erdem, who is a former, or I think he still is in the parliament, he got thrown out by Erdogan at the time, but he exposed the entire plan.
They had captured the guys that were carrying the sarin gas.
Stopped him at the border.
Erdogan caused the judge to lift it, throw it out, and allowed him to go in there.
And of course, the next thing we know, the bomb goes off, kills all these children.
So I think that President Assad has been set up.
And a good friend of mine knows him personally and has really told me quite a bit.
That's Vanessa Bealy.
She's really said to me that You know, they paint so many lies about this man and his family.
And yet, you know, could there be some kind of things going on in these prisons?
I don't doubt it.
Prison is not a pleasant place to begin with.
As we already know, even in America, there's gangs in prisons, there's rival factions, etc.
There could be a lot of things going on, and there may be things going on that he was not even aware of.
But nonetheless, it's hard to say.
Okay, so let me ask the next question, then strategically.
The fall of Syria, this is now two things come to mind.
Personally, this is denying Iran the routes to resupply Hezbollah in Lebanon, and it can also give the IDF access to surround and attack Lebanon from the north, even to do a direct attack on Beirut with tanks.
Isn't Lebanon now in grave danger because of the fall of Syria?
No.
Absolutely.
I think about General Wesley Clark and what he said when he got the Pentagon general that he spoke to that time and how he said, you know, seven nations will be taken down in five years.
Well, they're way off on target on timing.
But Syria is nation number six.
And so they've all fallen.
But they were all against the International Monetary Fund to begin with.
That's true.
And now you have Iran, the last standing nation.
But quite frankly, a good friend of mine who's from Iran said to me that, he said, if you watch what's happening, and this was before, I've reported this even before they killed Nasrallah.
He said to me, he said, he sent me a news article out of Saudi Arabia Maybe it's Qatar, but he was showing me where they have reported that beware all you leaders in Hezbollah, Hamas, and even down in the Houthi rebels.
He said, someone just betrayed you inside of Iran, and your leaders are going to die one after another.
And sure enough, we saw that one after another.
He even said in that news video that Nasrallah had about 48 hours before he would be dead.
And sure enough, it all happened.
Yes, and I recall there was an Iranian leader, I forgot his name, who was killed in that suspicious helicopter crash.
Yeah, the former president, Rouhani, he shot down both—this was earlier on, and it was after that when the new president came in.
I really believe that new president is probably backed by the U.S., backed by Israel as well, just like Jelani, this guy they got now heading Syria.
I just did a report on that where he's already been exposed to working with Mossad.
He's saying the exact same thing Israel says.
Our biggest threat is Hezbollah, the Iranians.
And granted, the Iranian people do not want They don't want to be involved, or they don't want the Khomeini ruling the country.
They would love to see the country go back to the way it was in a democracy, to where they had the freedoms, etc., that were happening in that country.
And I support that for them.
But with what Israel is doing, it's horrible.
And even worse yet, Mike, what's going to happen...
But what Jana is an expert on, this Noahide laws, is that's a bigger concern, not just for that region, but what's going to happen here in the United States as well.
All right, let's go to that topic then.
Jana, our audience may have heard of Noahide laws, and we've also seen governors and senators say that they support Anti-free speech laws in America.
They just say they have to stop anti-Semitism, but of course they get to define what that means.
So the floor is yours, Jana.
Go ahead and give us what we need to know.
Well, first of all, I would like to just add to this serious subject that, in my opinion, this entire scenario in the Middle East is following a very plan that Israel had.
It is an Oded-Yinon Plan 1982, and what all of you can do is just basically Google it, put in Oded-Yinon Plan 1982, It's a greater Israeli project and it's going to go on years and years until they have conquered the entire land.
They have a certain map and they're following that scenario because they believe according to their religion, which is Talmudic Judaism, they believe that this land belongs to them by divine right and they will do everything possible.
Yes.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but we're going to get that map image.
We're going to show it on screen here.
But I also want to just, and I apologize in advance, Jana, but so our audience understands, what is your ethnic background or where are you from?
Just so that people can kind of place you on the map geographically where you're from.
Well, I'm originally from former Czechoslovakia.
I came here For freedom, about 30 years ago, as a very young woman, very young, I mean, 20, 21. So Czechoslovakia kind of had a divorce, you know, later.
And it used to be a communist country.
So now it's Czech Republic and Slovakia.
And later on, the communism did fell and it became a democratic republic.
So I'm from Slovak part, but I lived in Prague, Czech Republic.
So that's where I'm from originally.
Okay, and then what is it that brought you to this focus on understanding the Noahide laws or researching those laws that we're all about to face threat of censorship in America?
Well, in 2014, 2015, we decided to kind of explore Jewish roots.
You know, his roots are Jewish, and half of my family is.
So, we were very Zionist-oriented Christians.
We did believe in Christ, but we were very Zionist.
And we wanted to make Aliyah to go live in Israel.
We were offered that by the Israeli government.
Even though I was a Christian, I had close connections to the Knesset.
And they said, because both your parents were Jewish, Steve, we can get you in here and bypass the normal route.
Wow.
Yes, so we decided to go there with family.
We basically went there with kids and my father and tried to see if we can live there.
But while we were there, I started to notice that things are just not the way we've been told.
First of all, The general thinking of society is that Israel is the only Middle East democracy.
And while we lived there, I started noticing this is really not democracy.
Some things were very bizarre.
For example, the state was very clearly an apartheid state.
Palestinians were definitely looked upon as much lesser people, secondary people.
They couldn't rent the houses in certain areas.
There were specific laws just against Palestinians.
In some areas there were certain streets they could not even enter.
So that was kind of first shock because I had no knowledge prior to that, that this is how things are in Israel.
Then we started to explore other things and I noticed that entire marriage and divorce law in Israel is under religious rabbis.
So I found out that if Israeli man or a woman marries a non-Israeli gentile, Their marriage is not formally recognized in a state of Israel.
Like, they're considered non-married just because the person they married is not Jewish.
So, a lot of evangelical Christians have no knowledge about things like this at all.
They don't.
No, they think Israel is a democratic utopia where all human rights are respected.
And from what we've seen, and honestly, in my own disclosure...
Before October 7th.
The October 7th.
Before that and what Israel did, I didn't know much about Israel either.
I really had no clue.
Right.
We had one friend, and I'll just say it was real brief, that he was Israeli, and he and his wife both came there.
She was from the Far East, from I think the Philippines, and later the court determined that they are not married because she's a Gentile, and they deported her.
Yes.
And yet he was an attorney, and it took him two years to get his wife back.
That's incredible.
So it is an apartheid racist or racial supremacy society, but it's also a society run by a lot of people who believe that they are ordained by God with special privileges over other humans, correct?
That's exactly right.
And the sad part of this, too.
I remember one time my roommate that I had, I used to live in Israel back in 2004, was there between there and 2006. And he said to me one day that they target practice on Palestinians.
With rifles?
With rifles.
And I thought he was kidding me at first, right?
And his name was Iran.
And I said, Iran, are you serious?
He said, very serious.
And I said, so you mean you've killed Palestinians?
He said, it's the only way to get good at it.
Wow.
That's how horrible it is.
That really, besides that, and I went to a suicide bombing in 2004 in September, and it made me, I still had not woke up.
It took after me and Yana being married and her kind of really saying, you know, gosh, Stephen, what do you think about this?
Or what do you think about that?
And then I started as well researching and, you know, and of course, like this Noahide laws, they look like the Ten Commandments, right?
They're not.
Okay, so let's—yeah, Jana, go ahead, get into the Noahide laws.
Yeah, I will get into Noahide laws, but I wanted to add, like, we were renting a home.
It was near Tiberias in kind of like a community, and when we came to that community, we were warned not to talk about Jesus.
Really?
Like, you can't talk about Jesus here at all.
You kind of have to hide that you believe in Jesus.
Wait a minute, that's right out of the Bible, Acts chapter 5 or 7, I believe, where they said, right, they ruled against Peter.
You can't talk about Jesus.
You can't teach Jesus in this city.
I mean, you're saying this is still happening in our modern day?
Yes, very much.
Yes.
And so I started to be really uncomfortable and kind of nagged on my husband.
And I said, I don't think I can live here and I don't think I can raise my children here, that this is not country I thought it is.
And that kind of prompted me to start research of history.
And then I found a lot of Jewish people.
For example, Ilan Pape.
And I started exploring entire 19...
The author, let me just put that in.
He's a very well-known author of the Palestinian plight, correct?
Yes, Ilan Pape and Mikko Pellet, of course, activists.
And another one is now deceased, but his name is Israel Shahak, who was a professor at the Hebrew University.
And he is an author of several books.
And I basically started exploring very deep.
And I remember that time.
I could not put these books down.
I could not put videos down.
It was like a shock.
Shocked that you can't overcome easy and I basically realized that we have been so lied to on so many levels and then what happened, we were talking with a lot of Jewish people that belong to Chabad organization and Orthodox Jews and as we were talking to them and exploring We found out that there is a certain plot.
There is a plot against the world, a plot against Christianity.
And it's almost like they know this and they're keeping it secret.
They're calling Christians youthful idiots.
They are not truly and genuinely like Christians that they form bridges with.
They want money from Christians and support.
And when I was watching one video of a Jewish lawyer by name Dershowitz, he said it properly.
He said that, oh, I will support Christians.
I will support their support of us.
Are you talking about Alan Dershowitz?
Yes.
He said, I will support their support of us, meaning the Jews.
And most Christians in America, I would say mainstream Christians, especially the evangelical Christians, they have fallen for the Zionist agenda.
And they have no knowledge, I think, of what you're saying.
But tell us about this plot.
Does this plot end with ending Christianity?
Yes.
Even exterminating Christians, which has happened historically and is happening now?
I mean, where does this plot go in your view?
The plot is basically their vision that comes from Talmudic Judaism.
Judaism is a Talmudic religion.
I used to believe that Judaism is just Judeo-Christianity, Old Testament.
But what I found out, which was totally shocked to me, is that...
When they speak of Judaism, they are talking about Talmudism.
They're talking about their sacred text of Kabbalah, Zohar, and Talmud.
They're not talking about the Old Testament, per se.
They use the Old Testament, and even rabbis themselves explain that Old Testament is for children and women, but we the men, we have the Talmud, which is basically like an explanation of the whole Old Testament.
Now, when you go to Talmud, that's what they call Torah.
So if they speak of Torah, they always speak of Talmud.
They don't speak of the Old Testament as Torah.
So, Judeo-Christianity is basically an oxymoron term.
It doesn't make any sense because what they believe and their sacred texts are diametrically opposed to Christianity and what Christians believe.
I've come to that conclusion as well in studying and teaching.
I've published 100 sermons on the Bible, and my goodness, my eyes have been opened there about the contrast between even ancient Israelites, the Jews of the time, versus the teachings of Christ, and then the modern-day perversion of Christianity in order to serve the Zionist agenda.
But I think that most Americans watching this, they don't realize what's coming next.
Which is, so let me set this up and then I'll turn it back over to you, Yana, or Stephen, whoever wants to chime in.
But America, I would say, is now an occupied nation that the Zionist element now controls our incoming president.
Controls our Senate, controls Congress, controls...
This is not a conspiracy.
I mean, they have dual citizenship.
You go down the list of all these people in the FDA, the CDC, the Federal Reserve, Homeland Security...
I mean, Congressman Mast, who's going to be in charge of foreign affairs of the United States, he wore his IDF uniform into the House of Representatives.
I mean, that's not a conspiracy theory.
He shows up as an Israeli soldier in Congress.
Showing he leads the nation.
Yes.
So what happens next if Israel gets its way in America?
Well, what I can say is that their vision is a Jewish earthly kingdom.
The Greater Israeli Project is their land where they're going to run entire nations from.
What they want to do, and that's what I say, plot.
It's a plot against Christianity, but it's also a plot against anybody else.
If you are an atheist or Buddhist or Hindu, whatever else you are, you are in the same danger, actually, as Christians, because what they're doing is they want to end United Nations, so they're going to give out this sentiment against United Nations.
And I'm not saying United Nations is good or bad.
I'm just saying What they want.
They want the end of the United Nations and transfer the United Nations to Jerusalem.
Oh, wow.
I have heard that.
Now, I'm not a fan of the United Nations either.
Don't get me wrong.
No, right.
Or the WHO for that matter.
Right.
But I want decentralization of global power, not centralization, especially, oh, hell no, not in Jerusalem under the control of these people.
I mean, come on.
They're going to decentralize, because they are going to tell people, like, oh, you know, we don't need United Nations, and because, like, you see your sentiment, my sentiment, we don't like United Nations anyway, so they're going to use it as a next step of taking United Nations down, but what's coming next is absolute surprise, because all they want to do is transfer it to Jerusalem.
So a one-world government run by Zionists.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what you're saying.
And they want to fulfill...
That's going to be their millennial kingdom.
Yes.
They want to fulfill the scripture where it says that law shall come out of Zion.
So the law shall come out of Jerusalem.
It will come out of Zion.
And what's the law?
Well, that's law of...
It's called Noahide law.
And that's the law that they want to put on Gentiles.
First, they want to have that law within the greater Israel that they're forming.
So any Gentiles living in the land of Israel are going to have to be Noahides.
Wow, like in Jordan.
All the people in Jordan.
I mean, they're in danger, all the people in Lebanon.
I mean, doesn't this also involve Egypt, parts of Saudi Arabia, parts of Iraq also?
Yes.
Yes.
That's why the conquering, they're conquering right now.
You can basically see on a map what they're conquering.
They're going by the Yenon plan until they have the entire map there.
All the way to the Euphrates, northern Jordan even.
Believe it or not, northern Jordan.
And it's not necessarily that they have to have...
It won't necessarily be called, per se, Israel, but if they can control it and they become the governor of those areas, then they have fulfilled their mission and their vision, even though it was fulfilled.
It was under Solomon, I believe, is where that was already fulfilled.
You can see as they conquer those lands, they put their Israeli flag there as their victory.
And they are right now under extreme right-wing government, Smoltrich and Ben Gavir.
And people do not understand that those people are basically...
Right-wing extremists, Talmudists, they're within the Kahani ideology.
If you research who Kahani was, he was basically declared a terrorist here in the United States.
And that's their ideology.
They want Greater Israeli Project.
They want to kill, literally kill, Gentiles.
They're going by Old Testament scripture where Where God said to Moses to kill every man, woman, child, even animal, and don't leave them alive at all.
And then we have these Christian pastors in America that are on stage, like charismatic Bible thumpers, who are saying, you know, we've got to support Israel.
Kill all them Arabs and kill all these people.
And then you have almost all the Senate approving more weapons, more bombs, more money for Israel.
Seems like as long as the United States continues to exist with its currency, the dollar, then Israel's always going to have that funding to continue doing whatever it wants in the Middle East.
I mean, who will stop Israel?
If Syria has fallen, Hezbollah put up a fight for a while, but now their supply lines are cut off, Hamas...
They're in the tunnels.
Israel hasn't destroyed them, but Hamas can't come out and fight the IDF. Certainly not in Israel.
Who can stop Israel?
Nobody can.
As you can see, the genocide is being televised, it's open, everybody can watch it, look at it, and they are basically training people not to even be surprised if they see children being blown apart.
It's almost unbelievable, but what's happening here is It's a beast that's getting power, okay?
That's what they are.
That's biblical, yeah.
Exactly.
And what happens is these nations are giving power to the beast because they are doing nothing about it.
Well, the beast is growing more horns now.
Yes.
Right?
It's gathering the horns as the kingdoms and the crowns.
That's what's happening.
The beast is rising.
I don't know.
Daniel, was this chapter 7 in Daniel or...
I forget exactly where, but I will tell you this, though, Mike, when you mentioned Daniel 7, that's something that Israel's taking advantage of as well, and people don't even realize it, where they think to change the times and the law.
That word law is not a Hebrew word.
It's a Persian word of decree.
And that decree was what Cyrus did when he gave the decree for them to rebuild the temple back during the 500 years before Jesus' time and to rebuild their city.
And that was fulfilled.
Now, in this day and age, that Antichrist spirit wants to change that time.
In other words, say, oh, it's not then.
We're talking about now.
And that decree of Cyrus, and I think that's why, oddly enough, Cyrus Schofield came out with his Bible, oddly enough, interesting that his name is Cyrus as well, and he basically rewrote prophecy from what we knew from the early church fathers, and is saying that these scriptures haven't been fulfilled, and I debunk them one after another, after another, after another, that many of them, not all of them, but many of them have already been fulfilled.
So that's a different note, and I don't want to go down that rabbit trail because I can get too deep.
But this Noahide Law, though, is so important.
And even, Mike, it's in the Masonry.
You know, I did a video years ago how the Mason movement, and I'm not for the Masonry movement by no means, but they were infiltrated by a very, I don't know if he's Orthodox or not, Jewish guy back in the 1800s He ended up rewriting their bylaws, and he included the 21st-degree mason, and he's called a Noahide.
He used the C-H-I-D-E, but it's still to be able to carry out the Noahide laws.
It's Noahide.
He's the executioner.
Okay, so if we see the full implementation of the Noahide laws in America...
Wouldn't that mean in a practical sense that people who quote certain passages of the Bible, especially in the New Testament, would be arrested and imprisoned in America?
Yes.
You would be killed for that.
You could be killed for it.
Yes.
I'm going to tell you a little bit about Noahide laws.
It's a very broad, very deep subject, so I will see how I can make that shorter and leave out something, because everything in it is so important.
But in our laws, and it is not yet a law It's under public law, 10214. You can look it up.
It's very easily on Google everywhere.
Just put H.S.R.E.S. 10214 public law.
It is an Education Day USA. And when you read under that law what that day celebrates, it says that they're celebrating Menachem Schneerson.
Who was a leader of the Chabad organization, and they're saying that the United States as a nation is based on Noahide laws since its inception.
What?
Now, yes, I actually have that here on my iPad.
Hold on just a second.
Give me a second.
So let me read it.
And I'm just going to put my glasses on.
This is very disturbing, and especially combined with the fact when I see United States senators come out, like Senator Ted Cruz, one of our senators here in Texas, and he's not even the worst Texas senator, but he will come out and say, oh, I support life.
I'm pro-life.
And then the next tweet, it'll be like, let's give more bombs to Israel.
How do you not see the hypocrisy in this?
But of course he does.
He's being paid by AIPAC. They're all being bought off.
I mean, money talks.
We're under siege.
Yeah, exactly.
This is not United States anymore.
We are not ran by government we chose and it's not for the people by the people.
We are definitely under siege.
And over here, joint resolution, let me read you just first paragraph.
Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great nation was found or founded, Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization when they were known as the seven Noahide laws.
Wow.
And it keeps going on and on.
And yeah, it's in our law, Public Law 10214. You can look it up.
And these laws are re-signed every single year by every single president.
It doesn't matter if they are Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter.
So every year on the birthday of Schneerson, ten rabbis, Orthodox rabbis, Chabad rabbis, come around our president, five on one side, five on the other side, and in front of them he's re-signing the Noahide laws, As a bedrock of society for our United States.
Basically, they're signing the surrender to Zionism every year.
Yes.
And now it's happening in every...
Also, local government is signing it in every single state.
I noticed that our governor of Texas is all in with Zionism as well.
But let me ask you, what is the Antichrist's role here?
Or...
Obviously there's a lot of speculation who or what is going to be the Antichrist, the great deceiver, who pretends to be the unifier.
Does that factor into all of this right now?
Well, okay, when we talk about Noahide laws, it's a set of seven laws that sound on the outside very innocent.
You would say, well, what's wrong with those laws?
I mean, we believe in all of this as Christians.
Like, okay, let's go, like, first, no idolatry, no blasphemy against God, no theft, no murder, no sexual immorality.
Another one...
You're describing Tel Aviv with every one of those points, by the way.
It's like Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv.
I mean...
They'll clean up their own people, too.
The problem, though, Mike, you...
Okay, let's get this.
These laws have sub-laws.
And the power of interpretation to laws goes to the rabbis.
And to the Sanhedrin that they are secretly strengthening now.
Sanhedrin has been formed in 2002 in Tiberias, a long time ago, or 2004, but it didn't have power.
That's the beast that will be given power, by the way, is that Sanhedrin.
Because Sanhedrin is going to be strengthened eventually, and they're going to have the power of United Nations and all international criminal So, there goes the ICC and the ICJ. Campaign against ICC
and United States is all angry at ICC because they had guts to say that Netanyahu does war crimes.
But eventually, United States and all the nations are going to give power to To Israel, to the Sanhedrin, and they're going to transfer international criminal court to Jerusalem.
And the rabbis are going to be deciding about the nations and who is going to be punished and for what.
Well, listen, the sub-laws of the Noahide laws, for example, idolatry.
Under idolatry, under Noahide laws, Christianity is considered idolatry.
No.
Yes.
Well, what's the false idol, then, under Christianity?
Jesus.
Oh, no!
Yes.
I can't believe it.
If you worship Jesus, and if you pray to Jesus, you committed idolatry under seven Noahide laws.
This is what they, listen, just to believe he's the son of God is a violation of the Noahide law.
Remember, this is what the high priest did back during when Jesus was here.
That's right.
And he didn't even say he was the son of God.
He said, are you the son of God?
That's what the high priest asked him.
He said, thou sayest.
Yes.
And he ripped his garment.
He says, what more need are we?
You've heard his blasphemy with your own ears.
Then they wanted to kill him and do away.
But notice, they don't do the killing.
No, no, they ask the Romans to do the killing.
And they're handed over to the Gentiles.
That's why you have a 21st degree mason as a Noahide.
Executioner.
Yes, he's the executioner.
He carries out the punishment.
But first, I need to tell you, Mike, so you understand, sub-law is idolatry.
Christianity is idolatry under Noahide laws.
But then what's the punishment?
Punishment is decapitation.
Wow.
Something we normally associate with jihadists in the Middle East.
Yes.
Okay, so this is frightening.
Yes.
Very much so, but let me ask you this, though.
The Zionists are not the only power center on our planet, obviously.
We have China, and then Russia is rising economically and militarily, and of course there's all of Persia, which is a much more significant foe to the West compared to Syria, let's say, or Libya.
The Zionists can't just wave a magic wand and conquer the world.
Can they?
Well, they already have.
Think about it when you're looking at Russia.
Edouard Houdot, he was the mayor for Kharkiv, Ukraine.
Back before Putin ever came into power, him and Rabinovich flew to Israel for getting aid for Ukraine.
On the flight back, Rabinovich tells him, he said, my cousin is fixing to be a big leader in Russia.
And that was Vladimir Putin.
So he is Jewish.
And then when he stands up and says, and I'm really shortening this, he stands up and he says before, when he's fixing to get elected, he's going to do away with all the oligarchs, all the liberal Jewish leaders in the land.
And he does.
But he was actually being backed by the Chabad organization in Russia because they wanted to do away with what they considered the backslidden Jews and put them in power.
Now you see pictures.
Put it in there.
Putin Chabad.
And you will see him with rabbis.
You'll see him with the picture of Menachem Schneerson.
He's already conquered.
So you're saying Putin is in essence a Zionist Proxy or agent?
Majorly.
Majorly.
Wow.
Putin is for building of the Torah Temple.
He's willing to be looked as a bad guy for the sake of game.
But his private Chabad rabbi, his name is Lazar, that's his rabbi.
He's strengthened in Russia.
He's strengthened the Chabad organization.
And the Chabad organization is in every country of the world, including China.
And in fact, China is ran just the same like the United States by the Chabad, by Zionists.
And I will tell you, the Zionists have like, they're like chameleon.
They have many colors.
They come as communists, they come as capitalists, they come at whatever you want.
Wow.
Wait, did you see that President Trump invited Chinese President Xi to attend Trump's inauguration?
Did you see that?
Of course.
I mean, has that ever happened in history like that?
I mean, not in my memory.
But, you know, there's many rabbis that believe that Trump is actually the Messiah, but they believe in two Messiahs, a war Messiah, and they think Trump is the war Messiah, that he will be willing to take Iran out for them.
Yeah, that's what Christians don't understand.
The Jews have a theology of two messiahs, not one.
There is a Josephic messiah and Davidic messiah.
The role of Josephic messiah can even be a Gentile who will help them and give them everything they want.
That can be Trump.
Right, and they see that in Trump.
Trump is fulfilling their prophecy of Josephic Messiah.
Look what everything he gave them, Golan Heights, he made Jerusalem a capital, he put embassy to Jerusalem.
He moved the embassy, yes.
Right, and now they will want more, more, more.
They will want him to build their third temple and give them absolutely everything and give them this power to keep conquering the land for the greater Israeli project.
Once they have that land, you will see, and that's my prediction because I can see how they're doing with their Talmudic prophecies.
They're basically artificially fulfilling them.
And what they're doing is they're going to rise, and Jerusalem will rise as a spiritual center of the entire world.
And the only one religion that will be allowed You will be able to call yourself Christian or Hindu or whatever you want, but it's going to be, you will have certain changes that will have to happen within religion that will be approved by rabbis.
I will tell you some of the Christian cults that are right now very friendly to Noahidism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians.
Rabbis are going to basically give Christians rules how to interpret their religion and what parts of New Testament they won't be able to use.
And if they are using those parts, they will be under anti-Semitic laws.
Any kind of parts of New Testament that say Jesus calls Pharisees snakes, that's going to have to be removed from the New Testament.
Okay, I mean, that's fascinating and horrifying, but I need to bring this in.
Israel's behavior today, in the last year plus, violates all the teachings of the Old Testament and the New Testament, but especially the Old Testament and the leadership of Moses and even going all the way back to King David, right?
I mean, what Israel has done would be...
It's extremely disappointing to God.
And it's the kind of thing that God unleashed His wrath against throughout the Old Testament as Israel failed again and again and forgot His blessings and worshipped false idols and abandoned morality and sacrificed their children to Moloch and so on.
I mean, how can anybody, how can any, even, dare I say, a faith-based but rational person How can they look at Israel today and think that Israel is a nation of God?
Clearly it's a satanic death cult.
I don't know any other way to say it.
It's a death cult, and it's a major deception to brainwashing to such a strong point of Christians, because when they hear or see the word Israel, like, you know, pastors are telling them,
bless those who bless you, curse those who curses you, and they're interpreting it with the Schofield glasses, Schofield lens, and Christians I hate to say the wrong word.
I don't want to say dumb, but what they do is instead of having blinded, they don't have a critical thinking ability to take their Bibles and just go read in a context how these words were said in Genesis.
Clearly.
I've seen that so many times, too.
Abraham, when he said, I'll bless those that curse you, and it's singular in Hebrew, and those that bless you, I'll bless, and those that curse you, I'll curse.
And what he's talking about there, the fulfillment was actually with Pharaoh and King...
Oh gosh, I forget the other guy's name there, that took his wife.
Both times they took his wife.
And the reason why there was a curse put upon them for taking their wife, his wife there, is because she was the vessel for that promised seed.
She was the first one to believe.
And when you get into the Dead Sea Scrolls, they also show you that the people that are in Israel today, and of course down from the time of Moses, God only, he said, I don't do this for your sake.
They quote Moses, I don't do this for your sake, but I do this for the sake of my promise to Abraham and Isaac.
And that's the only reason they were allowed to go into the land, to conquer the land initially, and that was because God knew that Christ had to come.
Let me ask you a follow-up question on that, but that covenant with Abraham, God's covenant, wasn't it always conditional?
Yes, it is.
It wasn't a blanket pardon.
God didn't say, I pardon you for all future sins and deaths and massacres and genocides.
He said, you obey me and you shall be blessed.
This is the covenant.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing, obviously, but isn't that true?
But yeah, and Azamalek was the other king there.
But I will say, what happened though, and God did keep his word.
He sent them into Babylonian captivity.
They come back, they crucify Christ, they hunt down many of his believers, they imprison them, kill them or whatever.
He sends the Romans in and wipes them out, wipes out their temple and everything else.
You know, I mean, today, there is a temple standing, and that is the believers in Jesus Christ.
That's the true temple that's standing to this day right now.
Yeah, but people don't understand that this promise is about the seed.
It's one, a seed, meaning singular, which is Jesus Christ.
So...
It's not interpreted properly to Christians, and they're talking about Jews being the light of the world and Jews being chosen, despite that we have a New Testament, New Covenant, New Testament.
Right.
In Hebrews 1.1, it says in there that in a time past, God spoke to nations through prophets in various ways, but right now, in these days, He speaks only through His Son.
Right.
And I mean exclusively through Christ.
So there is no light to the nations unless you're filled with Christ.
So the Zionist rabbis, correct me if I'm wrong, but they see followers of Islam and followers of Christianity as almost equally bad.
Well...
They like Islam better than they do Christians.
Yes, they use Islam.
They like Islam better than they do Christians?
Yes.
Okay, please explain.
Okay, they use Islam as their sweeper.
You know, they will use Islamists to kill Christians, to cause trouble, but in the synagogues and under Jewish law, I don't know if you know this, Mike, that's a surprise, but...
Islamic faith is not considered idolatry.
What?
No, it's not.
Not under Judaism.
But what about Muhammad, then, under, I mean...
No, because...
If they worship Muhammad, that's a different story.
They don't worship Muhammad.
Muhammad is their prophet, but they worship Allah, right?
Yeah.
Okay, well, I can provide you with videos of rabbis, and one of them is Yehuda Glick, if you know that rabbi, a very famous rabbi, who actually served in Knesset, and he is very responsible for what's going on now with the building of the Third Temple.
And responsible for Christian and Jewish relations, he said that Islamic faith is not idolatry because Allah is the same God as the Jewish God.
But Christian faith is idolatry because Christians worship Jesus as the Son of God.
Yes.
Christian faith is idolatry.
Christians are in more danger under Noahide laws than Islamists.
By far, by far.
What about Hinduism and Buddhism?
Because Hinduism has like 50 gods and Buddhism, I mean, I don't know how many they have.
Idolatry, they're considered idolatry.
Rabbi Mitsrahid has said publicly, he's an Israeli rabbi based out of New York, and he has said publicly, there are five billion idolaters in the world.
Then he goes off and begins to name them and the numbers and he included Hindu I included Christianity.
I think he said with Christianity, two billion idolaters.
He said, and what should happen to them?
They should die.
They should all die.
He said, so serves the Torah.
This is why they brought so many Islamic people, refugee crisis to Europe and here, because they want to use Islamic people as their means to basically kill Christians off.
They want to create this tension between Islamists and Christians so they kill each other off.
That's their kind of way.
Alright, so as we're wrapping this up here, let me give out your website, israelinewslive.org, is that it?
That's correct.
Okay, israelinewslive.org is the website.
Now, What does our audience need to take away from this in terms of how do we psychologically protect ourselves against this obviously very deep psyop, globalist, historic, biblical, Talmudic psyop that's being played out upon the human race?
It is global.
It's in every government.
And what you need to do, what I would do, number one, educate yourself very well.
I would completely educate myself on Noahide laws, what they are, what are the sub-laws and what the punishment is.
It is beheading.
Then also look at our government, being all Zionists, what Trump has accomplished before, what he's about to accomplish with Israel, how Israel is one.
Once you have education and this awareness of what's happening, I would say what we need to do, we need to get together and take our Christianity back.
We need to educate others.
We need to get together on prayer meetings and literally pray against this plan.
Because it does not really have to happen.
God wants us to live abundant, peaceful life.
He does not want all this blood being spilled.
Realize that this Jewish kingdom they're building right now is built on the blood of children.
That's true.
Some of those children are under the sidewalks of New York City, by the way.
I would say this one short comment on the issue of the children.
A lady asked me not long ago, she says, well, didn't it say in the Bible they were to go in to kill, spare not women, children, etc.?
She says, how do you react to that, Steve?
I said, you negate the blood of Jesus Christ in them.
I said, because that was during a Nephilim time when giants, no telling how big they were, they were dealing with at the time.
I said, today, Christ has come.
He was the fulfillment of that promised seed.
I said, so every, I don't care if you're a Muslim, I don't care if you're Hindu or what you may be, you have a right to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ and live in peace.
And you might not hear it until you're an old guy or whatever.
I said, but he died for them as well.
I said, so no, they have no right to take any life like that.
And it is a genocide.
And it's far more than what they're reporting.
I've seen numbers as far as 200,000 plus that have been killed in Gaza alone.
And they're just getting started.
And that's the horror of this.
I believe in the universal right of people to live in peace.
I believe that all children have the right to live.
I believe in universal freedom of speech, freedom of commerce, freedom of travel.
And Israel has inflicted upon the people of Gaza a police state apartheid that I believe is a model for what Zionists want to inflict upon America.
That's right.
That's what will happen.
And because Christians here are not speaking up, they're not seeing the truth, when it happens to them, who is going to speak for them?
There will be no more left to speak for them.
They'll be supporting their own extermination, actually.
Yes, that's why it's so important to speak up against this genocide and say no and totally expose all of this darkness and don't allow our government Yeah.
Well, you know, I see more people waking up over the last year plus.
I mean, Candace Owens recently interviewed one of the survivors of the USS Liberty, for example.
Yes, we saw that.
Yeah.
And that's unexpected.
And I'm very happy that that's happening.
You know, we need to know real history.
I would just say here, you know, this is highly disturbing.
We have much more to talk about.
So I think we need to do another interview, you know, earlier next year.
Let's talk about what you found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
You read Hebrew.
That's huge because you can also see, I think, some of the intentional mistranslations.
Very much so.
Yeah.
And how we have been deceived.
You mentioned the Schofield Bible, but also we've been deceived, even in some ways, by the New King James Version.
You know, there's lots of perversions, right, over the years.
And even I got criticized recently for daring to say that Paul contradicted some of the teachings of Jesus, you know.
But he did!
Like, Paul and Jesus didn't see eye to eye exactly, you know, but...
Christians get really, really uptight about it's got to be their way and no other way.
There's not a lot of wiggle room sometimes.
I do a lot of refuting on Toby Singer because he goes in there and just obliterates the Bible and makes it look like Jesus was just a good little Jewish boy that was more submissive to the rabbinic authority and that Christians need to follow the same.
But I try to go in there and clear that up.
A lot of times it's just because of the translation.
The misunderstandings come more from the translation of what we have in the original languages, and that's where a lot of the problems come in.
And that's why they can pervert the prophecies and everything else, because they're not translating it properly.
Let me ask you this one question.
In your view, why did Paul say that we need to be obedient to government and that the governors of Rome were anointed by God to rule over us?
Because I can't accept that.
Yeah, I'd have to look and see from what he said in the original.
I don't do Greek, so that's not a language for me.
So I don't really know.
I will tell you who you can explore.
It is Chuck Baldwin.
Write that name down.
He actually has amazing articles on that exact issue you are bringing up, Mike.
Yes.
And I think when you read his view, you're going to be very satisfied.
Okay, I've seen some of his sermons and interviews, so I will.
I'll check out Chuck Baldwin.
But check him out on that very issue.
Okay, I'll do that.
About what you just brought up, because he explains it so well, and you will like that.
Well, I feel like also in that day, Paul, you know, you don't want to be...
Executed by Rome, either.
When you're running around trying to teach Christ, there are factions that you have to appease in order to not die.
Right?
Even in that day, especially in that day, I mean, look what they did to Jesus of Nazareth, right?
But it's complex.
I'm trying to learn, I'm trying to understand, but some of the things I'm reading, they contradict God's teachings in some ways.
Yeah, and that's the reason why Brant told me a singer.
He really tries to make it look like Christianity completely, including Jesus, totally contradict everything.
And luckily, we do have the Matthew version in the Hebrew language, and so I found a lot of the mistakes that he makes to where it's not the way he claims.
So some things, you know, we just have to take for the time being and try to figure out what to do with it a little bit later.
Wasn't there also an extended version of Matthew that was found a few years ago that had more detail in it?
I don't recall on that one, but there are quite a few.
Even one scholar said that even out of, like in the Egyptian writing, she said that she was too quick to call it Gnostic.
She said five of those books should be called early Christian writings.
Yeah.
See, what's fascinating to me is that there are more scrolls being found, more books being found all the time.
And we have to sort of retroactively reinterpret what we know with what we're now finding that are still ancient writings, ancient scrolls or inscriptions or what have you.
But we have to update our understanding based on new information, don't we?
Yes, and also when it comes to Paul, sometimes it is a problem with interpretation of the text.
And then also if you look at marginal markings in very early translations, when you go to history of translation of the Bible, because like, for example, there is a lot of misunderstanding that Paul was against women.
And I used to think he was against women, that, you know, the way he spoke and how we have today's Bible, when it starts speaking, you know, she can't even speak because her voice is a shame.
Well, that's not exactly what the interpretation is of that particular verse, and I think you would be very surprised what the interpretation is, actually.
Interesting.
Yes, so I found when I went and deeply dived into Paul and women issues, I found that Paul is actually very feminine.
He's a feminist.
He's more liberal than what the interpretations of today's pastors are saying to us.
Yeah, that is shocking to hear.
That hasn't been my understanding, but there's so much to learn.
You spent a lifetime trying to learn Yes, there is a lot of work.
And we would have to have another very in-depth program about particular scriptures if I was going to bring it out the proper way, but you would be surprised what interpretation problems are.
Okay.
Or the question is being asked, and it's in the margin, but they put it in the text later, like, you know, as also said the law, that the women are to remain silent, and it's not in the law.
No way.
But it is in the Talmud.
It's a Talmud law.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's all kinds of crazy stuff in the Talmud.
Right.
Oh, wow.
All right.
Well, I mean, this has been a fascinating discussion, and I hope we'll talk again soon because, you know, like history is unfolding in real time, and it's really horrifying.
And people, human beings, children of God are suffering and dying right now.
And that's my main concern from a humanitarian, anti-war, anti-violence, anti-suffering perspective.
Can we stop bombing the women and children?
Can we stop shooting the doctors and the babies in Gaza, please, for God's sake?
And even worse, how dare you bomb women and children and call it self-defense?
Exactly.
Not acceptable.
100% with you, and we condemn it.
It's a genocide in real time.
And as the scripture says, the time would come, they'd take no thought for the child in the womb.
There it is.
They're shooting pregnant mothers, and they have their little t-shirt, one shot, two kills.
And that's, listen, if Christians don't start repenting, they will also share in the blood on their hands.
And you won't wash it off, just like Pilate tried to wash it off with Jesus.
That's right.
You know, you're not going to wash it off.
You're going to have to repent and get that off.
Yeah, well, pilots should have stood his ground, you know?
He should have.
History would have been different.
But, okay, thank you both for your time today.
It's much appreciated, and I'm so intrigued by your knowledge.
It's obviously, you have great depth of knowledge that I think is really critical for our time.
So I'd love to do this again, and Yana...
Absolutely want you back again if you're willing to do that because we have a lot more to dig into.
But let's see what happens over the next month or so.
Let's get together again and find out what new horrors are unleashed in 2025. Oh my gosh.
I'll be happy too much.
Okay, we've got to stop the Satanism.
We've got to stop the death and the suffering, but we're all on the same page.
But thank you both for joining me today.
It's been an honor.
Yes.
All right.
So there you go.
Yana and Stephen Ben-Nun from IsraeliNewsLive.org.
Everybody, check out their website and their reporting, which is really outstanding.
And I'm thinking, you know, we need to index their site on our censored.news website, too.
So I'm going to send a note to my engineers on that.
I don't think we're currently indexing Israeli News Live, but we need to do that.
Thank you for watching today.
I do want to say God bless each and every one of you, and please join me in praying for peace and praying for an awakening to the intent of our Creator, who intends for us to live with each other,
with all of God's children, and then to express and explore So anytime we're focused on war and killing and bombing, it takes us away from God's vision for our purpose in life.
So thank you for watching today.
I'm Mike Adams, and if you want to check out my sermons and my church, it's abundance.church.
It's called The Church of Natural Abundance, where I give you my interpretation about some of these things, mostly very controversial interpretations, but hey, what else is new about Christianity, you know?
All right, so thanks for watching today.
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