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Nov. 13, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Brain surgeon Dr. Jack Kruse interviewed by Mike Adams on LIGHT...
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Welcome to today's interview here on Breitjong.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Breitjong.
And today we have a first time guest, but a longtime man of incredible wisdom and research who has a message for humanity that I think Everybody needs to hear.
His name is Dr.
Jack Cruz.
He currently lives in El Salvador.
His Twitter handle is drjackcruise, and it's spelled K-R-U-S-E, by the way.
That's his last name.
And he's a neurosurgeon and so much more.
He joins us today.
Welcome, Dr.
Cruz, to the show.
It's an honor to have you on, sir.
Thank you.
No problem.
Great to have you here.
Sorry, there seems to be a little bit of a delay in our communication, but am I coming through loud and clear?
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay, great.
Just some long latency.
So, what I'd like to ask you to begin with, if it's okay, is to walk us through a little bit about Blue Light, the tech company patents, why light is nutrition,
What kind of crisis humanity is facing because of the domination of the blue light technology, the screen technology that we are all subjected to?
Why is this a big deal and where are we headed as a species if we don't get back to sunlight?
Well, I think the big problem really starts is you have to understand how this all started.
Decentralized medicine Really, the idea that I had for it 20 years ago was that we had to get to a point where we picked up from the researchers that did this work in the 50s, 60s, 70s.
The predominant one was a guy named Dr.
Robert O. Becker.
And Dr.
Becker was an orthopedic surgeon, very unusual researcher.
Why?
Because he didn't have a PhD, just an MD. He left his residency and decided to go work In a VA system in Syracuse, New York, which today, to a researcher, this sounds crazy.
But his idea at that time, when he was in medical school, he heard a talk in 1941 from a guy who won a Nobel Prize named Albert St.
Georgie.
And St.
Georgie made a comment that he felt, if you looked at the protein structure, Of every protein in the human body through biochemistry, that it looked like it had an electronic structure.
And he felt that proteins all may be semiconductors.
Now, of course, in 1941, this idea was looked at as crazy, but it turned out it was present because it turns out St.
George was white, right?
So what did Becker do?
This is the thing that Fueled most of his curiosity through his adult life and all the way up until the industrial military complex canceled him.
And he eventually went on to prove without a shadow of a doubt that St.
Georgie's insights to biochemistry where he won his Nobel Prize was in fact correct.
Where things went off the rails was you have to Remember, 1941, quantum mechanics, semiconduction, you know, transistors, all that, most of it was not even primetime yet in Silicon Valley.
So that's why this was such a radical idea.
But when the transistors discovered in the 50s, And Becker starts doing these papers and work.
He starts finding out that some of the basics of a cell is that we have semiconductor factories in us.
And it turns out half of the semiconductor factory is what St.
Georgie had.
The other half is the part that Becker really didn't do that much work on while he was alive.
that's the stuff that I picked up on afterwards, where water is the other part of the semi-conductive system.
And it's also been proved now beyond a doubt that water can do that as well.
So- Cruz, can I interrupt you right there?
I'm sorry to interrupt, but what you're saying is so...
It's incredibly significant for people to really grasp.
And I've heard you say this multiple times in your interviews, and you've explained it more, but I really want our audience to grasp this, because in one of your interviews, you said that the key amino acids that are used in human biology, if you look at their absorption spectra, for example, That tells you everything about the conductivity and the transmission of light within the body, the creation and absorption of light.
You're talking about the body electric of Becker, but people don't realize just how electric we are.
You're speaking to it.
You even said in one interview, you said that there are biological mechanisms that are lithography for micro...
Well, not microchips, but lithography...
You can actually think about the proteins in us as a microchip because you're exactly correct that the mitochondria itself, because it emits light, acts as a photolithography fab plant to make the proteins in us.
And the interesting part...
Most people forget the basics of biology.
The basics are that RNA and DNA only code for proteins, okay?
And the proteins are, as I told you, the half of the semiconductor.
The other half is the water, and they have to work together.
And the reason that Becker's work and St.
George's work was impressive, because They did this theoretically.
This was almost like what Einstein did with the photoelectric effect.
People forget that Einstein never did an experiment in his life.
These were thought experiments when he wrote those four papers in The Miracle Year, and it turned out most of his insights were correct.
Becker did actually the same thing initially, but then he did the experiments to prove that this is in fact the way things work.
And what Becker found towards the end of his career before it got taken out is that regeneration in us, meaning healing, always starts with a DC electric current.
And the DC electric current is kind of amazing Because we know that it comes from the sun.
All energy within the body comes externally from the sun, just like it does with food from photosynthesis.
But there's a process in the body where we are able to take terrestrial sunlight and then get it down to one one-thousandth of one-millionth of a current, a DC electric current, and we use that to de-differentiate our red blood cells to go back to other stem cells to heal.
And he cut his teeth specifically on bone.
That's what he spent almost his entire career from, I'd say, 55 to when he got put out of business, which was in 77.
And he went so far as to say and told the military during the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and things like that, that he believed that there was a process of That humans could use to regenerate their limbs.
He did experiments in salamanders.
He did experiments in frogs and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how this works.
And one of his most amazing experiments that I never really talk about too much because it had huge implications is Humans have the ability to regenerate the fingertips.
That's the only place that we're actually able to do what a salamander does.
Like if you cut a salamander's head off, it grows back.
You cut its heart out, it comes back.
With us, that doesn't work so good.
But if we do amputate our fingertip, you can regrow it completely.
So we do have some regenerative ability in us.
Some tissues have more than us.
For example, you can amputate a large section of the liver and use that for liver transplantation.
We've known that for quite some time, but most of that is also based on some of the work that Becker did.
But the real big stuff that he came in contact with the military is when he gave talks in the later 60s about there's this DC system in us is affected by things in the environment.
And why was that a big deal?
Because the United States economy at that time was being retooled from an industrial economy to an information technology one, one where Intel with silicon-based semiconductors would eventually change the world.
This is the times when IBM was the dominant tech company, Unisys, things like that.
And that world, back then, there was no cell phones.
There was nothing that used this technology until much later in Becker's career.
But what the military wanted to know...
Did some of the things that they used for military applications, could they impact soldiers in the theater?
And that question came up after Becker gave a very famous talk with a guy named Andy Bassett, who worked with Becker on a lot of projects, but there was a big friction between both of them.
Why?
Because Becker was much more of a pure scientist than Andy Bassett.
Was what I would call a profiteer.
And he wound up Making a lot of money in orthopedics and spine surgery for the use of bone growth simulators and things like that.
And Becker had a huge problem with that.
And at this meeting, the difference between their two opinions became apparent to most of the people in the office, or I should say in the audience, because Becker cautioned people that if we're going to go and place external electric fields around people, that there's a chance that Wow.
And Bassett was on the opposite side of that and didn't believe that.
Why?
Because he was getting ready to basically bring in the era of Medtronic and, you know, pacemakers and things like that.
And that's when the military tapped Becker on the shoulder and said, look, we have this project in Wisconsin called the Seafarer Tower.
We're going to build it because now we have these really cool nuclear submarines, but we have no way to track them all over the world.
So we've come up with an idea to use RF radiation.
We're going to build this antenna, and we now think that we can track everybody for the military through this project.
But we're concerned, based on your work, that it may have an effect on the people in Wisconsin and also the military people that would actually build this antenna and things like that.
So they asked him to do a study.
So he started studying this late 60s and then early 70s, and then around 1973, the final papers came out.
And Becker, in fact, showed the U.S. Navy Secretary that there was a huge problem.
And in the beginning, Becker felt that the United States government would actually do the right thing with the things that he found.
And when he got really frustrated, most of his research, which was done in the VA military system, never got published.
Many of the things that he told the military never hit the peer-reviewed literature, and this infuriated Becker, so much so that he kept going back and forth with them.
And with one of his guys that he had working with him, who was actually a PhD named Andrew Marino, who was brilliant in his own way, they started to do other studies to prove to the military that, hey, you need to really Publish my work so the rest of the world can go what goes on.
So what's the next thing that they did?
They took 765 kilowatt towers, which is the ones that you see all around you today.
These are regular power towers that bring lines, you know, across countries and across cities.
And they found out that the power lines actually affected this current that allows us to regenerate in us.
And the military still didn't respond.
So the next thing he did, and this was an idea that Marino had, he said, what if we showed them that these antennas could affect the magnetic field of the Earth, 80,000 to 100,000 kilometers above the Earth?
This is low satellite orbits where the military was concerned about things because This race got set off when the Russians went into space with Sputnik in 57.
And it turns out that Becker and Marino were able to prove that as well.
That it changed the magnetic field above the Earth.
Now, most people hear this, you know, on shows like yours for the first time, and they think, oh, this is groundbreaking.
But this is published in the Archives of Congress.
It's now published in Marino's book called Going Somewhere.
And again, the U.S. military didn't do anything about any of this.
In fact, It got so bad for Becker.
He was so infuriated because he felt he was doing things to help the military out and also the people of the United States that he made the catastrophic mistake of going on 60 Minutes and sitting down with I think it was Mike Wallace and they did a big expose on it and literally two weeks later his lab was defunded.
Remember, this is a guy that was twice nominated for the Nobel Prize.
Well, and think about the whole future of telecom, depending on suppressing his message, right?
And the wearable electronics.
Yeah, go ahead.
Let me tell you the crazy thing about the story, though.
His findings made the front page of the Boston Globe.
Like, if you go back and do a microfiche now, you can still find it.
But the reason why this didn't resonate with Americans, because in 1977, nobody had cell phones.
Nobody had screens.
Nobody lived the life that you and I are living now.
I can understand why it was a big deal, but this technology, the government knew about from some of the stuff that I've been talking about in other podcasts, like the Danny Jones podcast, about the MKUltraStory.
The government knew that things could be controlled by light, and I think that's the real reason they asked Becker this question about RF radiations, because they knew that this is a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
That people could be influenced by.
They just wanted to know if there was big effects.
And when they found out the effects were bigger than what they thought, that's when they went into, let's whitewash this and shut them down.
His catastrophic mistake was not understanding the game theory that was being played out by the US military.
That was the real issue.
And because of that, His life, kind of scientific life, ended.
Marino wound up leaving his lab because they had no way to make money because they couldn't get any grant money.
And Marino went to LSU Shreveport, which is down where I did my residency.
I did my residency at LSU in New Orleans, but he was also in the orthopedic department because Becker had a lot of friends down there.
And Marino kept...
Marino went back and got his JD, became a lawyer.
Why?
Because obviously you can imagine Becker got embroiled in a lot of different things with the military.
And the big one was with power line companies.
When Becker...
When work was found out, Becker also sent all of his work to all the power companies in the United States.
He was trying to inform people because he was a good doctor.
I mean, he was not a guy that was looking to...
He wasn't like Bassett.
I mean, you probably can tell from my training as a physician.
Becker knew that we had to handle this with the precaution principle, where Bassett went to industry and became a multi-multi-millionaire from using this work.
And it turns out, most of the stuff that orthopedic surgeons and neurosurgeons use in terms of electromagnetic radiation, in terms of healing and things like that, they're not properly done by the letter of the law to a Becker's research would dictate it.
But that hasn't stopped industry.
Just like we saw with COVID, it didn't stop them from doing the right thing there either.
But the real interesting part of the story is Marino continued on.
Becker then started to become an expert witness.
In a lot of different cases.
And this created a lot of testimony that's not only in Congress, but you can find it when you look through depositions.
And the story got bigger and bigger and bigger.
And I can tell you that Becker, from 1977 to 2007, because he died in 08, he became a pretty bitter man because he was very pissed off the way he was canceled.
Yeah.
When I picked up his charge, it was when I was a resident in neurosurgery.
Why?
Because my mentor in neurosurgery told me about Becker's work.
He said, look, you're not going to believe this, Jack, when I tell you, but we don't...
We don't heal bone, we regenerate it.
And this guy is the guy that proved it.
And he goes, I want you to do a big research thing to teach the residents.
Because we used to have to do projects when we were first and second year residents about an interesting part of the body that had new cutting edge stuff.
And here we were, you know, in the 80s and 90s.
And Becker's work was done literally 30 years before this.
And this was still considered new cutting edge because no one was actually using any of Becker's work.
Why?
Because the government effectively banned it and never put it in the peer review literature.
So people never learned about it.
And I was fortunate to have a mentor in neurosurgery that did know about it and thought this was very interesting and said, you know, we should present this.
So when I learned about all this the first time, I have to tell you, I was stunned.
I didn't learn this, you know, in AP biology.
I didn't learn this in college.
I didn't learn it in medical school.
And here I was in residency reading papers that Becker did in the 50s and 60s, and I'm going, What this guy did was ridiculous.
I mean, he was able to actually do some other things that'll blow your mind.
When he did the salamander research, he was able to use a 2,000 gauss magnet, which is a way we measure magnetic strength, and instead of anesthetizing...
To anesthetize them, yes.
Yeah, he would just put them on the magnet and that would induce general anesthesia.
And he found that the DC electric current went away.
Now, he never studied this further, but if you realize the implications of this, we're doing anesthesia probably the wrong way.
We're using drugs now and we probably don't need to do it.
But Becker was not really interested in some of the crazy things that he found.
He was so focused on On figuring out the electronic control system of wound healing in mammals, that was his job.
And he became the expert.
I will still tell you to this day, I still think he was far ahead because right now we only have really one researcher on the PhD side that's picked up his work.
I picked up his work the other way.
As a clinician, because when I learned about this, I realized when I read all of his work that there was huge problems for patients who are now living in a blue-lit, non-native EMF world, where RF microwaves are everywhere because of the people in big tech.
And we're not talking so much the Intel guys now, because they just made the chips.
This...
This changed with Unisys.
This changed with IBM. This changed with Microsoft.
It changed certainly with Google.
But as soon as we started to use screen technology and everybody had it around, Our disease epidemics got way worse.
And many of the people that you've probably interviewed in the past, you know, like to blame food and exercise for the problems that man have.
But there's some very interesting slides that I have in my slide deck when I give talks like this to doctors, that if you look at NHANES data, that, for example, the obesity crisis really goes all the way back to when we started to use light technology.
In our life.
And it really goes back to 1893 when Tesla and Westinghouse makes the AC power grid.
It doesn't go back to 1970 when food was weaponized by McGovern and Nixon.
And it certainly doesn't go back to when we started to make Froot Loops.
Dr.
Cruz, I'm sorry to interrupt, but...
I have to jump in here because I really appreciate what you've been saying online also about Kali and Casey Means, and I completely agree with you.
There's a distraction to say we should focus on red dye in Froot Loops rather than these much bigger problems that we are facing.
But let me just jump in here.
Please give me a minute to help bridge some things because it's extraordinary that you and I have never spoken.
I've been doing this as the health ranger for 25 years.
I wrote about the importance of sunlight 20 years ago and interviewed Dr.
Michael Hollick back then about vitamin D. I was attacked by the dermatologist.
When I was saying the same thing that you are advocating, the importance of sunlight, both in your eyes and on your skin and the other organs.
And then in 2013, I started a food science laboratory, mass spec instruments, been running that for over 10 years.
And every time you talk about photomultipliers, I smile because all of our instruments have PMT detectors in them for the mass spectrometry.
And so I've been a food scientist all these years.
And I agree with you.
Food doesn't explain half of what's going on.
You can have deficiencies, you know, vitamin C deficiency, or you can have lead toxicity.
You can have all kinds of toxicities.
But I agree with you.
Light is a key nutrient.
And what I really want to ask you at some point here...
Is the interaction between light and nutrients.
And you mentioned DHA specifically as something really critical.
That's where I want to learn from you.
I think your knowledge is critical for humanity.
But I wanted you to know those things about me and our audience so that you know how much we are on the same page and pulling in the same direction.
Decentralized medicine, decentralized knowledge, bring it back to the people, and then we have a future as a species.
That's my take.
Yeah, I mean, I would just tell you the Cali and Cassie Means thing, you have to understand this is where the politics does come in a little bit.
They're using the Hegelian dialect where they're trying to move the needle off the real big issues today.
The big issue is you have to realize Susie Wiles, who is Trump's new chief of staff, she basically hired both of these two.
To keep the message about 18 months ago off of Operation Warp Speed because they knew that this was going to harpoon Trump in a big way.
And to be honest with you, most of us who voted for Trump, we don't really give a shit about Operation Warp Speed because Biden and Harris screwed so many other things up, you could just add it to the pile.
So the big issue is they made a catastrophic mistake and then Where most of us got infuriated by these two, they came up, they showed up just like an asteroid that took out the dinosaurs.
And they kept saying the same things that everybody else in the health space, like ancestral health, the paleo community, the carnivore community, you know, even dietitians.
Everybody's been saying this forever.
And I'm like, just so we're all clear, Young people are not dying from Froot Loops.
That's right.
They're dying from COVID jabs.
And you two clowns get a spot on Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson.
Yep.
And you have to realize this is all the doings of Susie Wiles through Mercury, which is a big PR firm that's tied to big pharma.
And Then when you understand a little bit of their history, Casey is very conflicted because of her ties to 23andMe founder, Ann Wojcicki, and data harvesting and the fact that they own companies.
Both of them own companies tied to this electromagnetic story that you and I were just talking about.
And they want to focus in on the food stuff.
But here's the funny thing.
The chronic disease epidemics that Bobby talks about, that I've been talking about, that probably you've been talking about, they didn't start when Fruit Loop showed up.
Most people in the United States don't even know that supermarkets showed up in the United States in 1947.
The first case of autism showed up seven years before that in the literature.
First case of Alzheimer's disease in the literature is 1911.
So, guess what?
There's another cause.
To this, and it's not red food dye number seven, or it's not yellow food dye number 14, and it's not BPA, it's not Forever Chemicals.
Now, I'm not going to tell you those things are not bad, but here's the interesting thing.
We can avoid those things by our choices in the grocery store.
That's right.
What we can't do is avoid the shots from mandates, like especially if you're a three-day-old infant And you're under the care of a hospital-based, centralized pediatrician who's going to hit you with vitamin K, hepatitis B, and then you've got to get your COVID shots really quick because they're mandated still here in the United States.
And it turns out we now have very good aftermarket data that this is why people are dying.
And it goes against the narrative that That many people currently believe, meaning that all the fatties out there that were sick as shit, they were the ones that died.
No, the data shows something very, very different now.
That's what the media told us.
It turns out if you went to a hospital and got intubated, and a hospital was paid extra money, and you got certain drugs, you died.
And who's dying now?
the people that took the mandated jab and guess what why isn't that the biggest story why is fruit loops and kellogg's the biggest story well that's i've had the same question and and i i've been vocalizing that and i've been taking heat from people and i i see these activists marching on kellogg's like they're saving the world marching on kellogg's i'm like are you kidding me There are so many other things that are happening that are orders of magnitude greater risk and harm.
Not to mention the bombing of children in Gaza, which is a totally different story, but just the light bombing of everybody in Western civilization and the fact that the tech companies...
They need more tech to be on more people, more wearable, virtual reality goggles, all of it.
We're going deeper down this rabbit hole unless the truth gets told.
Well, I mean, it's even worse than that.
I mean, most people don't realize that the goal of the people in Google...
Who are Ann Wojcicki's ex-husband and Ann Wojcicki herself.
They want the tech inside of you.
That's the transhumanist idea.
That's right.
So not only do you Collect the light, but you readmit it to them, to their devices.
That's actually kind of what the whole idea between Callie and Casey are.
That's the reason why I think she left her residency in her chief year, which is unheard of in medicine.
You know, I talked to several other physicians about this, and we all looked at each other, you know, recently, and we said, look, it's very clear that these guys were trying to protect Trump, but they don't realize by protecting Trump...
They've actually gave the big middle finger to a lot of the families who had people die from COVID.
And these two don't really spend much time talking about COVID because remember, both of them are SRI people.
They're Stanford Research Institute people.
Casey, you know, has already admitted she worked at 23andMe before she even went to medical school.
Cali is even worse because his relations, he's a card carrying member of the Council of Foreign Relations, which then you got to start talking about Kissinger.
You got to start talking about Rockefeller.
Right.
Then we got the issues there that go back to globalist and socialism.
And do I believe that Cali is that guy as a lobbyist?
Because what is a lobbyist effectively?
A lobbyist is someone who's allowed to lie legally to communicate between a government.
and an industry player.
And they do a really good job of learning a lot of the things that Edward Bernays talked about in his book in 1921 called Propaganda, so that you get things effectively done between a centralized power and an industry player.
And he uses a lot of his abilities as a former lobbyist to do what he's doing now.
And I think they've been successful at what they're doing.
But my whole piece of this thing that really bothers me is that when you are in the middle of a diabolical event, which is what COVID effectively was, and you are talking about Froot Loops, not only is that going to raise...
My blood pressure, but there's a lot of people out there that are absolutely pissed off that we're talking about Froot Loops and not talking about all these people that were killed By the COVID jab.
And we're not talking about health care reforms that way.
We're not talking about reforming the 1986 act that gives legal protection to big pharma.
We're not talking about the Bayh-Dole Act.
Or the direct-to-consumer advertising that the FDA legalized in 97, right?
That's completely insane.
Oh yeah, that's the month act that Obama put in.
And then, you know, to get to your point, because don't think I didn't forget it.
I mean, to talk about how this all links to why Obama and Biden in 08 said we need to get rid of incandescence and why Biden in his term, or if you want to call it Obama's third term, why they're effectively getting rid of all of that, why there was an analog to digital transition, why they want more screenings around everyone else.
Well, guess what?
That brings you back to a lot of Becker's work.
Now, It becomes very germane to why Becker was cancelled.
Because guess what?
The military knew what was coming.
And when I was a young man, that's when I called Becker up and said, look, I'd like to come meet with you and sit down and have a chat.
And I was a little bit, how shall we say, I didn't tell the truth to him on the phone.
I told him that I was going to come and talk to him because I know where the DC Electric came from because in his work, He never really found where the DC electric current was in his work, in his experiments.
But he always was correct in saying it was right below the myelin level in the neuron.
And when I sat down with him the first five minutes, I said, look, I'm going to give you the goods.
The answer is POMC. It's alpha MSH. It's melanin.
And I explained to him very quickly what melanin does.
And he looked at me and he said, I can't believe I made this mistake.
It was staring me in the face.
And I said, look, what you did was spectacular.
But I said the real reason I came here is we need to have a long talk about this non-native EMF story.
And the most important thing that came out of that meeting was this man was bitter for 30 years about how the military took him out.
And we shared notes.
In those notes that we shared, He taught me a lot of things.
A lot of things about history that I didn't know about.
And I told him some of the things that I had found out about.
And some of the things that we talked about led to probably, if I was to distill the whole meeting out, was when he said to me, don't make the same mistake that I did and go public Before your timing is exquisite.
If you're gonna pick up my work, don't go on 60 Minutes and tell people when it's not gonna make a difference.
He goes, wait for the right time, when you can make the maximum impact, and then tell the whole story.
And I thought about it, and I have to tell you, from probably 2005 to now, the last 20 years, I've been bitter, pissed off, and angry, not only because of what Becker faced,
but also when you know the totality of the story and you realize how nefarious the people are, both in big government, and you try to teach people the basic decentralized science first, but not put it all together for everybody to eventually see.
When they see it, it's astounding.
Because the things that link to it, to this day, I'm still astounded by the story.
But people need to know this.
COVID basically created a starvation effect in the populace, the world populace.
That we need to be told the truth both from our government, our politicians, and the people in science.
And right now, they're still trying to whitewash, censor, you know, and do things to keep us from the truth.
And I think this is the reason why I've reacted so violently to Casey and Callie Means, because they are the last iteration of what the military did to Becker.
What You know, the military did to Bernice Etty in the polio vaccine with the cutter.
And, you know, to be quite frank with you, I would say it even goes back to what happened in Jekyll Island when the people in the banking industry took out three of their own on the Titanic.
That was even...
Yeah, and by the way, I'm recording a special...
I'm recording a video for G. Edward Griffin today, actually, about decentralization.
And this is why your message resonates so much with me and my audience.
I'm even the founder of a show called Decentralized TV. And that's all we focus on.
But let me point out something that people might be asking as they watch you.
Number one, you're wearing a Bitcoin hat.
So that's decentralized finance.
Right?
That's an honest ledger distributed blockchain system.
No government can counterfeit the money.
Also, you're not wearing a shirt.
And that's on purpose.
You and I both know, but just in case anybody in the audience is wondering, that's because your body is responding to the wavelengths of sunlight that are ambient all around you.
Just take a look.
My house doesn't have any walls.
Perfect.
So that there's no walls.
So when you go around...
This whole yard is wide open.
In fact, show you up here, the roof, that actually is grass on my roof.
So I can go up and get, you know, sun there.
Love it.
This is the wall called Bukele's Freedom Wall.
I like it.
And then if we go here through the kitchen, you can see no walls again, but here is a deck.
Where I usually do my podcasts.
But take a look.
That's the Pacific Ocean.
You can see that we got some rain today.
That's a teak deck.
And you can see all the chairs out there.
Yep.
Where pretty much my entire life is lived outside.
Yes.
And that's the way, you know, I've lived my life pretty much.
I would say...
For the last 20 years, and most of that came from Becker's work.
I mean, fundamentally, it was Becker's work.
And he changed the way that I practiced medicine, and he also changed the way I practiced neurosurgery.
And when things got really interesting is when some of the big tech guys Got sick from some of the stuff you asked me about before.
The stuff that's tied to MKUltra.
The stuff that got graduated into SRI, which is the Stanford Research Institute.
Then got graduated into the Brain Health Initiative.
But one of those big tech guys, his name Jack Dorsey, may have heard of him from Twitter.
And I helped him get better by decentralizing...
His biology.
He was already decentralized in Bitcoin, and then he started teaching me about decentralized money.
And I'll be honest with you, I was a dumbass for not realizing it from probably 2009 till 2013.
And then I started dabbling in it.
And it turned out to be a really...
Good partnership because many of his friends started to follow me.
Many of the people in the music business started to follow me.
Professional athletes, you know, they sought me out.
And I started to teach people the basis of decentralized medicine, which is light, water, and magnetism.
And those three things are the basis of how mitochondria work.
And as I said to you before, mitochondria through metabolism creates light.
That's the photolithography that sculpts the semiconductor proteins in us.
And for the last 20 years, I've been teaching people and extending Becker's work just about to every single organ in the body and showing you how we use, as you said before, the absorption spectra and the emission spectra of proteins to create signaling chains the absorption spectra and the emission spectra of proteins to create signaling chains in us that describe And one of the key ones was actually the melanopsin system, which is the blue light system.
That was the system that was weaponized by the government in MKUltra.
That's what, you know, Danny Jones wanted to spend a lot of time talking about how it linked to big technology.
And I want to bring in fluoride too.
Let me just put that in your mind here about fluoride, because a lot of people understand the role of fluoride in mental submission, but you have a much bigger story about light achieving that.
Yeah, well, you got to know a little bit about fluoride.
Most people don't know that besides being a neurosurgeon, I used to be an oral surgeon.
So I have a dental degree too.
So I know a lot about fluoride, learned a lot about it a long time ago.
But what fluoride fundamentally does, it's a group seven element.
And it's the most electronegative element on the periodic table.
So what does that mean?
It has a voracious appetite for electrons.
And it turns out it absorbs electrons and doesn't let them go.
And if you know anything about semiconduction, you can't have semiconduction in your body if your electrons are bound up in fluoride.
Fluoride has another interesting effect.
It's a dielectric blocker to water.
So when you put fluoride in water in a cell, it completely ruins the semiconduction in your body, which is fundamentally why this is an issue.
And the reason why this is a big deal, it goes back to some of the things that I talked about with Danny.
When General Groves, after the Manhattan Project began, people forget that the Manhattan Project was called Manhattan because it started on the 67th floor of the Empire State Building.
And what happened before Midway is the United States military was decimated in the Pacific by Pearl Harbor.
They barely got out of Midway alive, but they had nobody to look at the docks in New York.
And it turned out there was a lot of reports that General Groves got that the Germans were sending U-boats into New York Harbor and releasing spies in there.
And it turned out that Groves gave the idea to FDR. He said, why don't we turn this over to somebody who patrols the docks in New York?
And it turned out that was Murder, Inc.
And who were those two guys that played a role here?
That's Meyer Lansky and a guy named Lucky Luciano.
And one was the leader of the Jewish mafia, which is Lansky, and the other one was the leader of the Italian mafia, which was Lucky Luciano.
So when FDR asked for this help from the mob, Meyer Lansky famously told FDR, if you want my help, I'm willing to do it.
I'm a patriot.
I made a good living here in the United States, but you're going to have to get my buddy out of the maximum security prison so he can run my business with me and put him in a minimum security prison.
So they made a deal with the devil.
And they did transfer Lucky Luciano at this time.
And Meyer Lansky then turned both the Jewish and Italian mobs that ran the docks of Brooklyn Navy Yards, because that's effectively where this went down.
And within the first month of Meyer Lansky doing this, they found, I think it was 19 spies.
And out of the 19 spies, all of them were killed with the exception of one And it was a guy named Dr.
Kurt Plotner.
Plotner was an SS surgeon.
And he was a spy and he was coming over.
And Lansky found out from him that Hitler was sending people over to find out what the hell the United States was doing when they sent Dulles over to Europe to poach all these Jewish scientists.
And that's why they were sending the U-boats over.
And then Plotner told Lansky a couple of key things.
The number one thing is he let them know about how they were using fluoride from A.G. Farben to make the Jews docile before they were put into different experiments.
Most of the experiments, as you would know, are tied to things that were related to MKUltra.
Not only through mind control, but changing their consciousness, making them more docile.
And he told them stories about using Mexican peyote to do this, and also LSD. So Lansky didn't kill this guy.
Lansky actually turned this guy over to General Groves in 1942, and he also let the precursor of what eventually became the Mossad know about this as well, because Lansky was kind of a dual passport guy.
And That got turned over to the government and that's when the government started to find out that fluoride was a real big problem.
They started their own little process.
That's effectively how Operation Paperclip, because most people think Operation Paperclip happened after the war.
That's actually not true.
Actually, General Groves is the one back at FDR to get Alan Dulles to go to Europe to harvest all these people.
And Paperclip not only brought over the scientists that ran the Manhattan Project, but it also brought over...
Almost 200,000 Nazi people after the war.
Some had good effects and some had bad effects.
A lot of people don't realize that those Nazi scientists, a lot of people think that just became NASA. It was way more than NASA. It was biotech.
It was pharma.
No, I will tell you that the biggest effect wasn't even NASA. I mean, that was Wernher von Braun.
I think everybody knows that.
But the big one is that the colleges that eventually became the ARPANET, then DARPANET, and then the Internet, those colleges, Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Stanford, To this very day, those people populated all of those colleges.
For example, I'm trying to think of some of the names of the guys in the Manhattan Project that actually repatriated back Over to Europe afterwards, but they left their PhD people, their students, in all these colleges, and those are the ones that became academics.
And to prove how crazy this story is, most people know about Edward Rene's and the story of the book Propaganda.
What most people don't know is that that book was taken by Hitler, specifically Goebbels, and used in the SS ranks.
Right.
For the first time, it was weaponized.
But the reason why this is an interesting story is Bernays was married to Sigmund Freud's daughter.
And it turned out Sigmund Freud's daughter and Bernays had a child who you probably have heard her name.
Her name was Anna Freud.
Anna Freud was the psychiatrist that actually was involved in taking care of Of Marilyn Monroe when she died.
And she was also involved with the training of Jolly West.
And, you know, you heard in the Danny Jones podcast, he really wanted to talk a lot about Jolly West.
And to be honest, I'm kind of like not really big into Jolly West because he was a small-time player in the JFK story.
The bigger players there were Anna Freud is the one that got him involved in MKUltra.
And When you understand what happened, like when these people evolved, who is on the lineage of Bernays to Freud to the head now of the National Institutes of Drug Addiction right now?
In fact, I learned this from Becker at my 2007 meeting.
He told me, he says, you need to worry about who Fauci just put up Um, for the NIDA. And I said, why?
He goes, do you know who she is?
And I said, no.
And he said, her name's Nora Volkow.
She's a psychiatrist from NYU. And she just got appointed there.
And I said, well, why should I be worried about this?
Then he proceeded to tell me the story of, uh, Nora Volkow is basically the granddaughter of Trotsky and Trotsky was killed in By Stalin over this issue with the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds in terms of propping up the Nazis.
He's the one that explained to me about Edward VIII. He's the one that told me because he had 30 years to go back and look at the people that put him out of business.
Wow.
And I started to look at all this and I'm going, so let me get this straight.
World War I ends in 1917 and you're going to tell me the granddaughter of Of Trotsky is now running our drug program?
And he goes, yeah, it gets even worse.
He goes, remember all that stuff when you were a kid about the Iran-Contra affair?
I said, yeah, with Poindexter and all that.
And he goes, well, Poindexter turns out to be a pretty bad guy in this story.
And he told me about Weinberger and how Weinberger basically was the devil for General MacArthur in World War II. He said, these people are now secretaries of defense, and they are now running the show to actually gut America from the inside.
And I'm sitting here as we talked, and he goes, do you understand why they put a psychiatrist from NYU on In this position, because Iran Contra was about selling weapons, creating drugs so they could launder the money to run their forever wars.
He goes, this is the reason why a lot of my material was toxic to them, because everything that they use in technology that they get from their big tech partners, they always tell you they have a good utopian reason to use it, but the dystopian reason is the one you have to worry about.
He's the one that clued me in That we created the drug war and that Nora Volkow was part of this program.
And he said, keep your eyes open for her.
So when Nora Volkow published a paper in 2011 that basically showed that blue light screens increase your blood glucose and your insulin She was actually saying a whole lot because that's the basis of the original question that you asked me to start this podcast.
Jack, how does blue light really screw us up?
It's also the big problem for Casey and Callie Meats because, see, we only eat meals three to four times a day.
But it turns out we now live in a world where blue light is present 24-7, day and night.
And that chronic elevation of blood glucose and insulin is actually what destroys the orbital frontal gyrus in the brain.
And remember my day job, I am a brain surgeon, so I know a little bit about this.
That's where most of the chronic diseases for neurodegeneration, mental illness, autism, they all start.
With this story, because when blood glucose and insulin are raised up by light, it destroys the balance between dopamine, melatonin, and cortisol.
All of these things tie back to the leptin-Milanocortin pathway, and the reason why doctors to this very day don't learn a lot about that pathway...
Mike, do you know where that pathway was discovered?
No.
Rockefeller University in 1994.
That was after I finished medical school.
And I will tell you right now, I'm probably close to the world expert on that pathway because I've spent nothing but the last 30 years of my life Knowing different parts about that.
And blue light specifically affects that gene, the POMC gene.
It's called pro-opio-milano-cortin.
Makes 10 different cleave proteins, but the one that's the real big one is alpha-MSH. The other one that people know about is ACTH, and ACTH is the one that plays the blue light story.
From that time sitting down at Becker...
We found many other things out.
We started to find out about the non-visual photoreceptors, the proteins that are present in us, that basically for your lay part of your audience, these are light detectors, okay?
And the number one light detector that should blow your mind, especially since you said when you talked to Holik that you had some issues with the dermatologist, If UV light is so toxic, tell me, why did God or Evolution put Neuropsin on our cornea and our skin?
It's a UVA light illumination detector.
I want to have a whole discussion with you at some point someday about UV light and its interaction with water in particular.
Yeah, well, we need a lot of researchers to do that work because guess what?
That's one part of the water story that they have done a shitty job on.
That's right.
They just keep saying it's just H2O, H2O, H2O, that's it.
No, they keep saying it's H2O with infrared light, and that's true, but they always casually forget the UV part of the story.
The UV part of that story actually ties in to the atomic isotope deuterium, which actually is something else that the Cali and Cassie means folks get wrong.
It's what the seed oil guys get wrong.
It's what everybody gets wrong about food because they don't realize food fundamentally is an electromagnetic barcode of what sun is in relation to the earth and latitude on the planet.
And your mitochondria is designed to absorb that frequency of light and then program to do something with it and kick out an answer.
And it turns out that the metabolic networks that we have in biochemistry books all get their marching orders from that light show that goes on in that process.
And this is the reason why centralized medicine is in the dark ages when it comes to understanding both food and biochemistry.
I want to be respectful of your time here also, by the way.
And let me make sure I plug your Patreon page.
It's patreon.com slash drjackcruise.
It's spelled K-R-U-S-E if you're just listening.
So patreon.com slash drjackcruise.
And is there...
Oh, your Twitter handle is also drjackcruise.
And this is the correct channel.
BTC, foundationalist in exile.
But in sort of...
Trending towards wrapping this up, again, to be respectful of your time, I want to point out what you said about mental health or mental illness as one of the results, the psychological implications of this phenomenon that you're describing.
See, when you and I were kids, and I know you were very active in sports, I was too, and we played outside.
We played outside all the time, every day, and now here you are, essentially playing outside as an adult, and I make a point to walk in nature every day, and I have done so for 20 years with my goats, by the way, and my dogs.
And I've got donkeys or whatever.
I live in rural Texas, but I have a very close relationship with nature for that very reason.
Not a day goes by that I don't get out of nature, even if it's raining or whatever.
But today, society is an indoor society.
The kids, they hardly go outside.
The parents are terrified of them.
Tell them why, Mike.
Why don't they go outside?
Because that's the key.
Because of technology.
Because of tech, exactly.
Go ahead.
You don't realize that what we are now addicted to is actually the key, what's causing most of the chronic disease epidemics.
That's right.
We didn't talk about one of Jack Dorsey's good friends and also my good friend, but you know about is Rick Rubin.
He's a famous music producer.
And I told Rick in his new book that he wrote that the consolation of mental disorders are in his book.
People know the low dopamine side or the people that have bipolar disorder, depression, mood disorders, things like that.
But the other side, when you have extreme high levels of dopamine that are very chaotic, that's schizophrenia.
That's like the Who album cover.
That's, you know, all of that kind of stuff.
And you don't realize there's a constellation of symptoms, but fundamentally, the system that's broken is Is the leptin-Milano-Cortin pathway as it goes to the benular nucleus and then projects on to the orbital frontal gyrus?
And what separates The silly talking monkey from the rest of the monkeys is our frontal lobes.
And mental illness and suicide now is a huge problem.
When I was a young man and you were a young man, and we were outside playing sports, that wasn't a big problem.
That's right.
But it's a big problem now.
Why?
Because everybody is now addicted to big tech.
This is where the story of Nora Volkow, her family, The Kali Means and KC Means lineage through 23andMe, through data harvesting, through targeting, through wideband technology that they're using, they are weaponizing this against you to make you A biologic and economic slave.
100%.
So you're not on the plantation like you were in the dark ages.
And most people, they think this is tinfoil hat.
And this is what I tell people.
It can't be a tinfoil hat when there's goddamn patents for this stuff.
And the answer, though, the answer that you talk about...
Is decentralization, which means also getting yourself off that grid system.
It's almost a cliche to say back to nature, but it is the answer.
Like you say, there's no alternative.
Nature is the only decentralized network that's natural.
And you're right.
The sun I called Tina, there is no alternative.
But we also need to realize that the more times that we spend In what created us, which is Mother Nature, the better off we'll do.
The problem is, many of us live in environments that I would call polluted.
You know, Bobby's done a really good job of telling you about the different pollutions, but people don't realize, geoengineering, which also has patents, that blocks quantum yield.
There's a reason why dermatologists, Bill Gates, and optimologists all want to block the sun, because it's good for their centralized properties.
Totally.
But there's also a reason why I don't want my people to do that, because I'm trying to keep them healthy and reverse diseases and make those chronic diseases go away.
And I can promise you, you know, the real funny story about Froot Loops, Mike, and you'll probably appreciate this, is you remember when Usain Bolt won his five gold medals?
Yep.
He was running in his skivvies on a volcano at the 18th and 20th latitude in Jamaica, and Eating Chicken McNuggets.
I will never forget when Bob Costas interviewed him, and he said, yeah, that's really what I ate for those five gold medals.
And the thing is, you never hear Casey and Callie Means talk about that.
That because somebody who is an elite athlete admitted to that, that tells you that there has to be some other confounding variables.
And I just told you what Nora Volkow found.
That blue light...
It raises your blood glucose and your insulin.
Well, it turns out, even if you eat shit on a shingle, if you're outside in nature, you can still be a supreme athlete.
You can still have a great brain.
Usain Bolt taught us that you can win those five gold medals because he had his skin in the game running, grounded to earth in the sun.
So the point that I'm trying to make to people is...
Look at nature.
Look what's possible.
And when a guy with a degree or an expert who works for Big Pharma, who's a lobbyist, who shows up out of the freaking blue, for people like me and all the doctors out there on social media that are trying to help people...
I consider this a big fuck you to me.
And I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
And I want people to know That decentralizing your life both in money and health, health and wealth are fundamentally linked.
And I want people to realize that you buy this to stay away from the sausage grinder.
That's the Mayo Clinic.
That's Stanford.
That's Johns Hopkins.
That's Harvard.
Because all they're going to do is sell you bad ideas that enrich them.
That's the key.
And if I can get you to realize...
That when it comes to food, it's as simple as going down an aisle and saying, I'm not gonna buy this.
Our big problem is the things that they're forcing down our throat.
Those are the things that we need to really have a discussion with.
So the TV screens, the use of the internet, talking about the 2017 NTP study, talking about the vaccines, talking about mandates, talking about why certain corporations have immunity for making bad products.
That's the discussions I want to have with Mike on podcasts.
That's right.
Well, I hope this is the first of many because we've barely scratched the surface also of your work.
And I want to encourage people to go to your Patreon account, join up there.
This is something that I'm going to be doing is reading your material because you've got so much material.
I want to understand POMC and the leptin cycles in a lot more detail.
You've lived the experiments and then documented them.
I would tell you though, Mike, I like to give the credit where the credits do.
The credits really should go all to Robert O. Beckert.
The guy who's a rock star.
There's other rock stars in the story, but he really stands out.
He's truly a giant that very few people know about.
And if I can tell you what a true patriot that he was, And that he tried to help humanity and that our government basically snipped his vocal cords.
I want people to know that COVID, the mistakes that they made in COVID, the mistakes that Fauci made, DAZAC made, the Wuhan lab made, all the nefariousness, they breathe life back into Dr.
Becker's research.
Then that tells me that COVID was worth it.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's funny.
I remember purchasing his book decades ago.
I think it was in the 1990s when I first bought his book, and I did not understand it.
Yeah, it was in 85.
It's not, look, it's not an easy read.
If you don't have...
I had no clue what it...
It can floor you, but the crazy thing is, what I've been doing for 20 years is deciphering his ciphers and explaining to people how it works, but I try to make it simple.
I told you before, it's a three-legged stool, it's light, water, and magnetism, but the simple way for people to get it...
Make like the Sphinx and eat like a great white shark.
If you can remember those things, you basically distilled Dr.
Becker's work down pretty clearly.
Why?
Because you're going to be looking at the sunrise every morning.
You're going to build up your DC electric current.
You're going to build up your redox.
You're going to support that regenerative current in you.
And guess what?
You're going to stay away from guys like me.
You're going to stay away from guys like Peter Atiyah.
You're going to stay away from the Mayo Clinic.
You're going to stay away from Harvard.
And guess what?
The money that you save in your insurance premiums, hopefully...
Yeah, that's right.
Go decentralized.
You can take your life back.
Outstanding message.
Dr.
Jack Cruz, it's been a pleasure speaking with you today.
Thank you so much for all that you do.
No problem.
Anytime.
It was a pleasure speaking to you as well.
Pleasure speaking with you.
I'll tell you what.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Dr.
Cruz, and enjoy the rest of your day there in El Salvador.
And I think you'll get a very positive stack of feedback on this interview.
So thank you again.
Take care.
All right, take care.
And for those of you watching, I hope you enjoyed this interview.
Believe me, we've only scratched the surface.
I've spent, like I said, about a dozen hours listening to Dr.
Cruz on various interviews, and there's much, much more, a lot of depth to his knowledge and the importance for humanity.
And remember, you know, I wrote Grocery Warning back in 2006.
I've been talking about dangerous food toxins for 20-plus years.
And I get exactly what Dr.
Cruz is saying, is that it's not so much about the food as it is about the light.
We need to embrace that understanding.
I mean, they're all factors, right?
We don't want to be intoxicated with heavy metals and toxic hormone disruptors.
But if you're lacking the wavelengths of light that your eyes and your skin and other receptors are expecting, then you're lacking nutrition.
It's like...
You know, scurvy is the name for the disease that you exhibit when you lack vitamin C. But what's the name for the disease when you lack light?
Well, it's like everything.
It's Alzheimer's, it's mental illness, it can be heart disease, it can be blood sugar disorders, it can be depression, all kinds of things.
So we need to understand this in order for humanity to have a future.
And I'll be talking about this a lot more, learning and teaching more along these lines as well.
So thank you for watching today.
Feel free to repost this interview on other platforms and channels, and be sure to follow Dr.
Jack Cruz on X at drjackcruz, and that's spelled K-R-U-S-E. Right there on X, the BTC foundationalist in exile.
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