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Sept. 12, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Sep 12, 2024 – HEALTH FREEDOM HISTORY to be made with Trump + RFK victory...

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	Welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Thursday, September 12th, 2024.
	I'm Mike Adams. Thank you for joining me today.
	And I have such an important interview for you here that we're going to jump right to it.
	And please allow me to explain the context.
	This is so crucially important for the future of our nation and the future of humanity that I've got to bring this to you.
	So let me just explain. We've got an interview here with two guests at the same time.
	It's Dr.
	Robert Verkirk, who is the founder of the Alliance for Natural Health.
	They're at anh-usa.org, and also Attorney Jonathan Emord.
	And I got the opportunity to interview them together.
	Now, Jonathan Emord has joined officially as the General Counsel for ANH-USA. This matters significantly, and here's why.
	And also, this ties into the election, and if we can get Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	into the position as head of HHS. Let me explain the context why this matters.
	And by the way, this is the most important news I could bring you today.
	I've got a bunch of other stuff.
	It's secondary to this.
	Even, I interviewed Michael Yan about cannibalism, and I'm saving that for tomorrow because today, right now, you've got to hear this story.
	Here's why. The FDA is on an assault against supplement companies, food companies, and small businesses across America.
	The FDA just went to Amazon, well, over the last year or so, and they said to Amazon, That you have to enforce these ISO rules, these elaborate sort of pharmaceutical level rules against all of the supplements that are sold on Amazon.com.
	And these are elaborate rules.
	Involving things like identity testing, quality control laboratory testing, and a lot of procedural compliance for quality control.
	Now, we, of course, at HealthRangerStore, we've been doing these things for a very long time.
	This is customary for us, but it hasn't been customary for most of the small businesses in this industry.
	In fact, this is what we're known for, really.
	HealthRangerStore.com, you know, laboratory-tested superfoods, supplements, ultra-clean ingredients.
	We do our own in-house laboratory testing, and we have multiple mass spec instruments in-house.
	But of course, we've spent millions of dollars building that facility and running it.
	And for many companies, that's impossible.
	Well, somebody gave the order to the FDA to attempt to wipe out anything that competes with the efficacy claims of pharmaceuticals.
	An order has come down.
	This is kind of like the COVID order came down to say, well, from a globalist point of view, let's exterminate humanity.
	Let's unleash the bioweapons and inject everybody, achieve global depopulation.
	That was a top-down order.
	That was anti-human, anti-health, anti-freedom, all of that.
	And we all lived through that.
	Well, a similar order has come down to destroy the natural products industry.
	That order has now made its way to Amazon.com.
	Amazon just finished hosting.
	And I know this because some people in my company tuned into this and watched it.
	And we know some of the people who presented there as well.
	Amazon just announced to all of their third party providers that they will no longer sell their products unless they go through this extensive identity testing and third party laboratory testing and so on, which will cost many thousands of dollars per production lot.
	Many small companies that provide dietary supplements are going to be out of business.
	They're done. And the first categories that are being targeted by the FDA via Amazon.com are weight loss, Sports supplements, you know, performance supplements, and also sort of libido enhancers.
	Those are the first three categories, but it's going to expand to all the categories of supplements.
	It's going to affect essential oils, of course, homeopathy, superfoods, any kind of nutritional products.
	Amazon is going to see a large wipeout.
	At the same time, Amazon has achieved licensing, I believe, in all 50 states, if not, it's close to it, to join Big Pharma.
	Amazon is moving its business model away from supplements and superfoods and into selling prescription pharmaceuticals.
	This is happening as CVS pharmacies are shutting down nationwide massive closures.
	Rite Aid is in deep trouble.
	Did they declare...
	I don't know if they declared bankruptcy or not, but Rite Aid is in major financial trouble, shutting down many retail outlets of their pharmacies.
	Walgreens is also downsizing.
	So what's happening is that the pharmaceutical retail industry is in a state of accelerating collapse.
	Amazon is shifting into the pro-pharma industry to sell pharmaceuticals to America.
	And ditching most nutritional supplements over time by saying we are complying with the FDA and the FDA is cracking down with these crazy new rules that are very onerous for most small businesses in the industry.
	Now, again, just to be clear, our own operation, we have...
	Always exceeded FDA testing requirements.
	We have very strict limits on heavy metals.
	We developed our own in-house glyphosate mass spec testing protocol.
	We've done identity testing for years.
	We've done aflatoxin testing for years.
	We do E. coli and salmonella and microbiology testing.
	And we've done that for many, many, many, many years.
	Even then...
	The FDA recently told us they wanted some additional details about the way we do things, and they were actually unhappy that we test everything for heavy metals.
	Remember when I told you this story? Yeah, they looked at our laboratory testing protocols and they said, well, we don't agree with you testing everything for heavy metals.
	You should only test certain things.
	You should have very specific things that you test versus other things that you don't test.
	We don't like the way you're applying heavy metals testing to everything.
	And our response was, well, we want to test everything for heavy metals.
	And we have our own standards, which are way more strict than FDA standards.
	But the FDA didn't like that, and so they're requiring us to have very specific, like, product by product.
	You know, are we going to test this one for heavy metals or that one for heavy metals?
	Like, they're unhappy that we're testing everything.
	It's very weird. It's almost as if, you know, somebody just gave the FDA the order to go out and just harass all nutrition companies.
	And that's happening through Amazon.
	And also directly from the FDA. So, the Alliance for Natural Health, anh-usa.org, which was founded by Dr.
	Robert Verkirk, they have been fighting for health freedom and for the freedom of nutritional supplement companies and homeopathy and dietary supplements and even nutraceuticals and cosmetics and so on for many, many years.
	They were founded, I believe, in 2008.
	Yeah, so they've been around more than 20 years.
	They've been doing a lot of great work, and I had interviewed some of their people before many years ago.
	They are the tip of the spear when it comes to fighting for health freedom for nutritional supplement companies and pushing back against sometimes ridiculous and onerous regulatory policies or selective enforcement decisions by the FDA. And now, Jonathan Emord, his nickname is the FDA Dragon Slayer.
	He has defeated the FDA numerous times, numerous times at the Supreme Court and in other courts.
	And by the way, he just achieved a major defeat of the FDA for one of his clients in terms of being able to introduce into the marketplace a new low glycemic index sugar or sweetener ingredient.
	It's a unique molecular sugar that you're going to see in products probably over the next few years.
	But the FDA did not want this ingredient to be introduced because, of course, it would compete with the brand names that you know, like NutraSweet and whatever else is out there, aspartame and things like that.
	The FDA functions as a cartel, and the FDA is there to protect big pharma, big ag, and big food, but not to protect the health of the American people.
	That's very clear. So Jonathan Emord fights against FDA overreach and he's very often victorious.
	So Jonathan Emord joining Alliance for Natural Health as their general counsel, this is a huge deal.
	And in this interview coming up, you'll hear Jonathan describe some of the plans of the lawsuits that they are going to file against the FDA. Now, stay with me on this because this is history unfolding.
	History for health freedom and for your access to healthy food and nutritional supplements, you know, vitamins even, basic things, natural products.
	The whole natural products industry is under assault right now.
	This can change, though, very dramatically, and here's how.
	Number one, the Supreme Court recently struck down something called Chevron deference.
	This involved the deferral of the courts to the regulatory agencies when there was a question about how congressional laws or powers granted to the regulatory agencies should be applied.
	They would defer to the agency's interpretation.
	And what that caused was agencies like FDA, USDA, EPA, ATF, you know, FTC, on and on, a long list, resulted in them going insane with power grabs.
	They would just write their own internal new regulations or new interpretations, like the ATF suddenly declaring that 10 million Americans were felons because they previously purchased arm braces for their pistols, arm braces that the ATF had previously said were perfectly legal.
	And then one day the ATF says, nope, they're not legal.
	You're all felons.
	That happened, by the way.
	And there was a lot of pushback against that.
	And fortunately, I think it was a Fifth Circuit decision that has overturned that.
	But the Second Amendment Foundation had to sue gun owners of America, sued other gun groups, sued.
	And many of those lawsuits or some are still in play.
	Some were very successful.
	So there's a lot of pushback against the ATF and its overreach.
	Well, the FDA has been engaged in tremendous regulatory overreach, and the FDA has asserted that it can silence anybody's speech, even if it's truthful speech, speech backed up by substantial scientific evidence.
	Speech that is intended to help consumers make informed decisions that can positively impact their health.
	I mean, we're talking about good faith communications based on scientific truth that are prohibited by the FDA. Because the FDA says that if you communicate anything about a food or supplement or even a bottle of water that you're selling, like if you say that a bottle of water treats dehydration, well dehydration is a medical condition.
	So the FDA would claim that by you making the claim that your bottle of water treats dehydration, they would say you have now transformed your bottle of water into a drug.
	And since that drug hasn't been approved by the FDA to treat dehydration, now you're guilty of promoting an unapproved drug and they can come in and seize your bank accounts.
	They can seize your inventory.
	They can seize your computers and customer lists and they can criminally prosecute you for saying that water treats dehydration.
	Literally, they can prosecute you for saying that vitamin C treats or prevents scurvy.
	I mean, the list goes on and on.
	And they have done this.
	They have done this to people.
	And this is outrageous.
	And this was never intended by the Congressional, I think it's the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act and the original creation of the FDA.
	Well, the Supreme Court has now handed an opportunity to America to challenge the FDA's overreach and to challenge the USDA and the FTC and all these agencies.
	even the ATF. Now, with proper legal arguments and now based on the Supreme Court precedent of overruling Chevron, It is a near certainty that the FDA's overreach will be cut back significantly.
	But it takes an attorney like Jonathan Emord and it takes an organization like the Alliance for Natural Health to put up that fight, to actually file those lawsuits and be able to fund those lawsuits.
	And to then reestablish health freedom and health choice in America.
	So that's part of what's going on with Jonathan E. Moore joining the Alliance for Natural Health.
	But there's more to this. If RFK Jr.
	gets into the head position of HHS, the Health and Human Services Secretary, then This would be such an incredible game changer.
	Now, of course, Donald Trump needs to be elected in order for that to happen.
	And in addition to that, Donald Trump needs to keep his promise and actually appoint RFK Jr.
	to head of HHS. Now, Trump has not yet specifically made that promise, but I think it's sort of an implied promise, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
	But clearly, head of HHS is where RFK Jr.
	could have the most impact.
	Now, if an attorney like Jonathan Emord and an organization like the Alliance for Natural Health sues the FDA, sues even HHS, when HHS is being run by someone like RFK Jr.
	that actually wants to see really strong reforms of these agencies anyway, and I believe that RFK Jr. would agree that the FDA's overreach has been incredibly dangerous, even deadly for our country, because we've seen that with the emergency use even deadly for our country, because we've seen that with the emergency use authorization of untested experimental vaccines that were deployed against children and everybody else during COVID, then RFK Jr. could order, he could order
	then RFK Jr. could order, he could order the legal team of HHS and the legal team of the FDA to, in essence, I don't know if the word cooperate is correct,
	In addition, any FOIA requests or discovery requests that would be made as part of these lawsuits would be made.
	If RFK Jr. were in charge, he would absolutely approve those requests so that that information could see the light of day.
	In other words, RFK Jr.
	is not going to circle the wagons and try to cover up the crimes of the FDA. He's going to actually try to see the FDA be forced into very necessary reforms.
	So this combination, and by the way, this isn't like Nobody told me this.
	You know, Jonathan Emort hasn't shared anything secret with me, by the way.
	I'm a smart guy. I figured this out myself, okay?
	I figured this out.
	Like, this isn't inside baseball.
	This is just me doing this interview and then putting the pieces together.
	And I've interviewed RFK Jr.
	before, you know, several times.
	And I know what's going on.
	And we, you know...
	We run a food science laboratory.
	We run food manufacturing.
	We interact with the FDA. We interact with ISO. Like, I know this area very well.
	So that's why I'm arriving at this conclusion, which is that if you want to have access to nutritional supplements, superfoods, healthy cosmetics, personal care products,
	vitamins, minerals, supplements of any kind, Then we've got to get Trump into the White House, because with Trump comes RFK Jr., and with RFK Jr., combined with Alliance for Natural Health and Jonathan Emord, over the next four years, the pushback against the FDA on its overreach would be truly historic.
	I mean, we're talking about like a 9.0 Richter scale event in terms of regulatory earthquakes here.
	This would be the biggest reform since, I mean, frankly, since 1906 when the FDA was created.
	I mean, it's been almost 120 years of tyranny under the FDA. Think about it.
	And it's time to push back against that tyranny.
	And this is the dream team to do it.
	So again, vote Donald Trump for president.
	And right now, RFK Jr.
	is out there telling everybody, vote for Trump.
	Also help support Alliance for Natural Health.
	I'll tell you how to donate if you wish, or you can join their organization.
	You'll hear about that in the interview here coming up.
	And please also continue to support us because, you know, we're funding a major lawsuit, a free speech lawsuit against the government.
	And when you purchase our products at HealthRangerStore.com, not only do you get heavily scrutinized, laboratory-tested You know, identity tested, microbiology tested products that are meticulously formulated and sourced.
	You're also helping to support us so that we can help fund this fight and we can have our platforms and we can do these interviews and we can get the truth out to you so that you know what's going on.
	And we actually have a shot at victory here, a significant shot.
	I mean, you might call it David versus Goliath, but when our David is Jonathan Emord, I'll take that, David.
	Jonathan Emord's got the best slingshot in the world, you know?
	He's like, he can take down giants because he's done it.
	That's why he's called the FDA Dragon Slayer.
	Now, if Trump wins, and by the way, There are people within HHS and NIH, NIAID, FDA, and so on.
	All of these agencies are wholly corrupt.
	They have sold out to big pharma.
	It's called regulatory capture.
	RFK talks about this.
	They've been captured by the pharmaceutical interests.
	And when they leave the FDA, they go take drugs.
	Really nice salaries with the very companies that they previously regulated.
	One of the former heads of the FDA became, I think, the global vaccine vice president for Merck, for example.
	And that kind of revolving door relationship continues to this day, and that's got to stop.
	There needs to be a lifetime ban on anybody who works in a regulatory agency from then going to work for the same industry they just regulated.
	And I think the former head of the FDA, wasn't that Julie Gerberding, I think, that went to work for Merck?
	That was one of them. And there are many other examples like that.
	So if we don't push back against this regulatory tyranny machine, That has gained so much power in America and is trying to censor the truth about nutrition.
	They're trying to do nothing but push vaccines and, you know, reptile venom jabs as weight loss drugs, GLP-1 drugs are all synthesized from reptile venom peptides.
	They're trying to push that on the children now.
	The FDA ran the organ harvesting programs for aborted human fetal tissues.
	That came out with Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch with a FOIA request who found out the FDA was harvesting organs from dead babies, aborted babies, to run their humanized mice experiments.
	Yeah, that's all on the record, too.
	The FDA has become an incredibly evil organization, as has every government agency that you can name.
	You know, the EPA, the ATF, the DEA, the FTC, I mean, you name it.
	The USDA... And probably we need to name the EPA two or three times because they're also pushing all the poisons on the crops and just mass poisoning the American people, which is causing chronic degenerative disease that results in these, you know, trillions of dollars of healthcare costs over time, which is part of what's bankrupting this nation, part of it.
	The other part is military spending to build more bombs and a lot of government waste in those programs.
	And then, of course, the other part is interest on the debt because our nation is $35 trillion in debt and headed for financial collapse.
	But even despite all of that, we spend almost, it's somewhere between 20% and 25% of the GDP is spent on sick care.
	I mean, they call it health care, but it's actually sick care.
	It's crazy how much money we're wasting on treating disease and enriching big pharma, which the FDA is protecting with monopoly powers.
	A drug approval is a monopoly grant by the FDA. And this is bankrupting America.
	America will not survive this if we don't change this.
	The only way to have a sustainable nation is to get back to nutrition, prevention, natural health, healthy foods, healthy supplements, clean water, eliminate the food toxins that cause cancer like sodium nitrite, for example, which I've been talking about for nearly, well, over 20 years actually.
	And yet the FDA still keeps it legal.
	So does the USDA. Causes cancer.
	Of course, the cancer industry is thrilled about that because they earn more money and more donations when there's more cancer.
	And they can always claim that they're working on a cure.
	No, they're not. They're making money off the disease.
	I mean, come on. Like, look, the American people aren't naive anymore.
	Since COVID, everybody's been red-pilled.
	People know what the game is.
	It's a giant... We're good to go.
	You know, for the same cost of injecting all these children with GLP-1 weight loss drugs, you could instead feed them three organic meals a day.
	And then they wouldn't have weight loss or weight problems.
	They wouldn't be obese. And also they probably wouldn't have all the ADHD diagnoses and the psychiatric problems and so on.
	If you shift to healthy food and nutrition and healthy supplements...
	And I'm not talking about sports nutrition supplements like, get ripped now, big muscle man!
	No, I'm not talking about that. I mean, half of that stuff is a clown show.
	Anyway, I'm talking about, like, real nutrition here.
	Just the core basics of great nutrition.
	If we focus on real food and real nutrition and we practice and teach permaculture and local decentralized gardening and food production, clean food, local food, then not only do we have healthier families, healthy communities, healthier children, we also have, by the way, food security because we have decentralized, resilient, redundant production of food, which is very important.
	You don't want centralized food control in the hands of a few corporations.
	Because those corporations, what happened during COVID? Well, they shut down.
	Oh, we shut down all our meat plants.
	Why? Well, somebody showed up and took a PCR swab from one of our chickens.
	And they said it tested positive.
	So what do we do?
	We murdered 6 million chickens.
	And now there's a shortage in the meat supply and the egg supply.
	It's like, you did all that from one fake PCR test?
	Yeah, they did. This happened all across the country.
	It's still happening. These health authorities show up.
	They shove a swab into the chicken's beak or swab their beaks or their butts or whatever they do.
	They just swab all around and they run them through their PCR machines, which don't even have any external standards.
	There are no physical standards for these tests.
	It's quack science.
	It's complete quackery.
	I mean, it's not even a quantitative instrument, by the way.
	It's not mass spec.
	It's not even real.
	The virology diagnosis of a disease with a PCR test is 100% fake science quackery.
	And the people doing it, they know that.
	They know it's fake science.
	But they use it to shut down food farms.
	And they use it to terrorize people and to say, oh, you tested positive for COVID. Here, come on in.
	And they drag you into the hospital and they put a ventilator on you.
	You know, put you under with anesthesia and give you remdesivir until your lungs fill with fluid.
	And then they say, oh, you have COVID-induced respiratory distress.
	Shove a ventilator into you and who knows what else.
	They follow these government protocols which are designed to produce COVID fatalities.
	The hospital then gets paid about $500,000 per COVID fatality that they generate.
	And then the government gets to cite a statistic.
	Look, COVID deaths are on the rise.
	Everybody better get vaccinated.
	And then the vaccines, as we saw, I played the video for you.
	One of the scientists out of Oxford saying the goal of the vaccines is to achieve 60-70% sterilization of the population globally.
	It's a depopulation jab, folks.
	This whole scam, this whole criminal fraud, this medical cabal, it's contingent upon these federal powers that This expansion of authority, which is false, that Congress never approved, and it's run through the bureaucratic deep state that people like RFK Jr.
	and Trump would dismantle rapidly.
	So if you would rather live in a world where Where you have access to clean food and healthy supplements rather than living in a world where vaccines are forced into your arms, ventilators are shoved into your mouth, you're forced to wear masks, and you're forced to endure lockdowns.
	I mean, think about those two possible futures, okay?
	A vote for Trump, J.D. Vance, and RFK Jr., that's a vote for health freedom that will result in pushing back against the medical tyranny, the plandemic theater, the fake science, the quackery of the scientific the fake science, the quackery of the scientific establishment that also attacked ivermectin and tried to make sure that nobody took ivermectin because it was saving lives.
	Or if you vote for Kamala, you could have a future where you're forced into a quarantine camp at gunpoint against your will.
	Hey, get on the bus. Yeah, your neighborhood's being evacuated.
	And you know that power has already been approved by the New York Supreme Court, right?
	The State Supreme Court of New York under Governor Hochul.
	Yeah, that's law. They can come to your neighborhood and they can declare that they think there might be an outbreak in your neighborhood.
	And you know what's their evidence?
	They ran a PCR test swab through the sewer.
	They were down in the sewers swimming in feces and swabbing the walls of the sewer until they got a positive hit on their fake PCR machine.
	And then they can literally drive up with military arms and like prison transport buses.
	And they can force you out of your homes anywhere in the state of New York.
	And they can force you into a quarantine camp.
	And they can hold you indefinitely against your will.
	And all they have to do is say that they think you might be a carrier of whatever.
	Disease X, disease Y, disease Z. Disease double Z's.
	Disease ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ And you already saw what happened during COVID. How many people were arrested in California for trying to run a gymnasium or a hair salon or a church?
	I mean, people were arrested in Canada and all over the Western world for simply trying to conduct basic services, keep their shops open.
	And what happened? The tyrannical government cracked down on them, threw them in jail, arrested them, prosecuted them.
	People lost their jobs all over the country.
	The Biden regime ordered every corporation that did business with the federal government to order all of its employees to take the vaccines.
	Otherwise, the business contracts with the government would be cut off.
	That was illegal, but they did it anyway, and they got away with it.
	And that caused...
	In America alone, based on solid estimates, numbers, actuaries, increased death counts, really solid numbers from people like Ed Dowd and his group and many others, we can now confidently say that those COVID vaccines killed at least a million Americans and they maimed 5 to 6 million more Americans or disabled them.
	And that was all by design.
	So if you want to push back against that system, You're going to want to hear this interview.
	Now, I know I've had a long intro.
	Sorry. But I had to explain the context of this.
	Now, just for the record, I want to say that Jonathan Emord and Dr.
	Robert Verkirk, they may not endorse everything that I've said up to this point.
	I'm not claiming that they do.
	I'm going to let them explain their views in their own words.
	As I question them on topics such as these, and you'll hear their views.
	But I'm not implying that they would endorse every single sentence that I have uttered here so far.
	They probably don't.
	But I will tell you this.
	I've been in this fight since 2003.
	I've been doing this for more than 20 years.
	And the things I was warning about in 2005, 2006, 2007, I wrote a book called Grocery Warning.
	It wasn't even mainstream published.
	It was self-published at that time.
	But then... Maybe a decade later, I wrote a book that was published called Food Forensics.
	That became a number one best-selling science book on Amazon.com, by the way.
	Food Forensics is still available.
	It's actually available in Korean, too.
	It's in a bunch of languages, too.
	What I wrote about in that book, it has all come true.
	That book could essentially be called The Guide to Make America Healthy Again, essentially.
	Everything that I've been saying for 20 years is now suddenly becoming mainstream.
	The dangers of vaccines, the healing potential of natural botanicals and nutrients, the dangers of overzealous regulatory aggression against the people, All these things I warned about, the toxic food ingredients, the toxins in personal care products, cosmetics, the toxicity of artificial fragrance chemicals that are found in laundry detergents and perfumes and skin lotions, personal care products, everything.
	This is all becoming mainstream.
	I've been working over 20 years for a moment like this, a moment in history like this.
	And if we can get Trump into the White House and RFK Jr.
	into HHS with people like Jonathan Emord, And Dr.
	Robert Verkirk, we can change history together.
	And also with Shanahan, who was RFK Jr.'s VP candidate, she has become a powerhouse of truth.
	You need to follow her on Twitter, by the way.
	An outstanding message, a message of health and permaculture, healthy food production, healthy living, getting rid of the toxins in your life, getting rid of the overzealous big pharma mass medication of children.
	Shanahan, she's going to make a great governor of California one day if she ever decides to do that, let me tell you.
	And RFK Jr.
	might make a great president in 2028.
	We'll have to see where that goes.
	If he rocks it at HHS, that's a very real possibility in 2028, which would be interesting.
	Because even I probably wouldn't agree with RFK Jr.'s Supreme Court nominee decisions as president, you know?
	But I absolutely agree with what he's saying about health and nutrition and big pharma and clean food and, you know, clean environments.
	I'm an advocate of a cleaner world.
	We've got to, you know, stop polluting the world with all the microplastics and the pharmaceutical runoff and all the heavy metals, the pesticides, the herbicides, the GMOs.
	We've got to stop the pollution.
	That means we've got to reel in these regulators that approve the pollution, like the USDA and the EPA. They rubber stamp the pesticides and herbicides that are killing our world, by the way.
	They rubber stamp it.
	And did you know the USDA organic program still has no limits on heavy metals in organic food?
	Did you know that? Did you know that organic farmers don't even have to test their foods for heavy metals?
	It's insane. And did you know that The FDA, its limits on heavy metals are insanely high in terms of the allowable levels.
	It's like 10 parts per million.
	You could produce a supplement or a food with, let's say, 9 parts per million mercury in it, and the FDA wouldn't even say that that's illegal.
	It's beyond insane, especially when you realize how much more strict the heavy metals limits are in places like the EU or Canada or Japan.
	I mean, I've looked at these charts from all over the world.
	And nobody allows as much heavy metals contamination and pollution in the food supply and in supplements than does the United States.
	Other than maybe if you go to some country where they're not really worried about the food supply like Yemen.
	In Yemen, they're more focused on launching rockets at the ships in the Red Sea.
	They're not really focused on lead in food and supplements.
	So they probably don't have very strict limits there.
	But in most other countries in the world, like countries that are more modernized, they have very strict limits, but not the United States.
	Because the FDA and the USDA don't give a crap about the actual health of the American people, as far as I can tell.
	What they care about is putting companies out of business and protecting the profits of big pharma, big food, and big ag.
	And that's got to change.
	So now we have a dream team coming together that can make that change happen.
	So with that said, we're going to jump into this interview.
	Now, let me tell you what's coming after that, because as you know, each day I have a sermon for you about Bible nutrition.
	So, yes, I'm launching a church.
	And the website is abundance.church.
	It's the Church of Natural Abundance.
	And as you know, I committed to producing 100 sermons on Bible nutrition over 100 days.
	I'm currently on sermon number 46.
	Almost halfway there.
	And I have to admit, this has not been easy.
	But it's been incredibly enjoyable.
	I've learned so much about the Bible and also about the beneficial properties of the foods and herbs and oils in the Bible.
	It has been an amazing experience.
	And for those of you who are enjoying my sermons, I hope that you're having fun with this discovery with me because it's an incredible ride.
	Today's sermon, sermon number 46, covers Jeremiah 10.
	This sermon has nothing to do with nutrition, actually.
	It's about the power of choosing godliness in a world infested with Satanism.
	That's quite fitting.
	Thank you.
	If you think about what all these government regulators are doing and what big pharma is doing and big food and the pesticide industry and the GMO industry, it's all Satanism.
	It's all a death cult.
	It's a bunch of satanic lunatics who are trying to exterminate humanity with their jabs and their depopulation and their infertility injections and their bioweapons, the Department of Defense weapons that were turned into vaccines, you know, Totally fraudulent.
	They were never vaccines. Transhumanism.
	Injections. Totally experimental medicine.
	Total criminal violations of Nuremberg.
	The whole deal, right? That's Satanism.
	They're at war with humanity.
	They're at war with the human genetic code.
	They're at war with human babies.
	They're at war with the family.
	They're at war with human civilization.
	How do we choose godliness even though we're living in a world infested by all these Satanists?
	And they seemingly have so much power over government and corporate media and pop culture.
	Did you see Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala?
	Or Kamala?
	Sorry. Get her name right.
	Yeah, I'm like, well, of course.
	You know, it's a demon endorsing a Satanist or a Satanist endorsing a demon.
	I mean, they're all in the same hellhole.
	Of course they're going to endorse each other.
	Because they're all opposed to humanity.
	They're all anti-Christ, anti-God type of creatures.
	Of course they're going to endorse each other.
	That's no surprise. You know, Hollywood and pop culture and the music industry is totally infested with intense evil.
	And that's why Netflix runs, like, demonic, anti-Christ, like, seance shows for children to teach them how to play with Ouija boards and summon demons and have sex with demons.
	That's all on Netflix, by the way.
	It's all on Netflix.
	And the music industry is the same thing.
	It's all Satanism.
	Vaccine industry, same thing.
	So whoever those industries are endorsing, that tells you that's also a Satanist.
	And Kamala promises abortion for everyone.
	Like, freedom, in Kamala's point of view, freedom means that every person in America has a right to kill their baby, but nobody has the right to speak.
	That's freedom, from Kamala's point of view.
	The freedom to kill your baby, not the freedom to speak.
	No freedom to tell the truth.
	They call that freedom. Well, Satan calls that freedom.
	Throwing your babies to...
	The false idols to the statues of Moloch in the Old Testament, where they were tossing their babies into the fire pits as a form of post-birth contraception, because they were all wicked, sinister people.
	I'm talking about the ancient Israelites, Old Testament time.
	Time and time again, I mean, even the book of Jeremiah talks about this, how the inhabitants in Jerusalem or the kingdom of Judah, they turned against God, they became wicked mass fornicators and sodomizers, and they were, like, humping everything all around the kingdom, and they would have all these babies, but they didn't want the babies, so they would just toss them into the fires of Moloch.
	Well, today the exact same thing goes on.
	It's just that It's an FDA employee with a lab coat and they say they're doing it in the name of science, but it's the same Satanism.
	It's the same ritualistic sacrifice to Moloch.
	These are demons in our time who are pretending to be scientists or doctors or medical workers.
	No, they're just demons who are pretending.
	They're chameleons. It's camouflage.
	Kamala the Chameleon, pretending to be someone who honors your freedom and honors America, but actually she's a communist Marxist who wants to overthrow America, take away all your freedoms, but murder millions of babies in the meantime and call that freedom.
	So understand what's going on.
	There's a delineation here that you need to see.
	It's a very clear line now between Satanism versus godliness.
	Very clear. It has never been more clear than it is now.
	There is a death party, and conveniently they have a D for their name.
	It's the party of death, destruction, demonism, demolition, destitution, devolving.
	That's what their party stands for.
	The D party is the party of satanic death.
	Versus The Trump Party.
	Make America great again.
	Make America healthy again.
	And notice I did not say the GOP establishment because a whole lot of those people are losers.
	And some of them are traitors, too, like the Mike Pence's out there and so on.
	I don't have any faith in the GOP as a party because they fail us again and again and again.
	And they're going to fold on this SAVE Act.
	They're going to fold on the budget.
	But there are shining examples of people Within the conservative halls, like Senator Rand Paul and Representative Chip Roy and others, and former Representative Louie Gohmert, and there are other great examples like that.
	And I interviewed Representative Michael Cloud, who's also got a solid head on his shoulders.
	He's got the spirit of the Lord with him.
	He's trained as a pastor, by the way.
	And Trump himself, been through hell.
	They tried to kill him. He survived it.
	He is a changed man.
	He's going to serve God from the White House.
	And RFK Jr., so impressed with that man, what he's going to do if he's given the opportunity.
	He's going to become one of the champions of health freedom and human freedom for America in ways that you and I can't even imagine right now.
	We are on the verge of such an incredible victory for humanity and an incredible defeat against Satan and his minions that currently infest the government agencies and the corporate fake news media and the fake science journals and the fake virology Clown show,
	theatrics, experts, and all those people, the Satanists in the media, the Satanists in pop culture, they could be handed a resounding defeat where we say, in the name of God and life and Jesus Christ, you are hereby banished from this realm.
	You shall not take more of our children.
	You shall not poison our food.
	You shall not turn our waters bitter with wormwood.
	You... We have the opportunity to do that.
	It's biblical. It's truly biblical.
	Wormwood in the Bible is often used to describe bitter waters or bitter food.
	It doesn't mean the wormwood herb, which is itself highly medicinal.
	By the way, one of the cures for malaria, but of course, you're not allowed to say that according to the FDA. You can't tell the truth about herbs.
	All right, so with that said, enjoy this interview here, and be sure to support us.
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	That's, of course, the one-year anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel, which then led to this escalating conflict between Israel and Hamas involving Gaza, the whole deal.
	Everybody's unhappy. Everybody's wanting to kill everybody else, it seems.
	And some of those people from the Middle East have come into the United States, and because the U.S. provided weapons to Israel and continues to do so, There are some people that are determined to carry out acts of terrorism in the United States and they intend to attack and sabotage key infrastructure.
	We may see power outages.
	We may see bombs.
	I mean, I hope not. I pray we don't.
	I pray for peace. But There are people that want to destroy America, and some of them are already here.
	And they're going to target bridges, they're going to target maybe grocery stores or whatever, or sporting events.
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	Now, October 7th is just one of the days.
	Then we've got the election day.
	So November 5th and 6th and 7th, so just a month later, we've got another wide-open potential for chaos scenario.
	I don't know how that election is going to go.
	I don't know who's going to win or who's going to cheat.
	Well, we know.
	We know the Democrats are going to cheat.
	We do know that. But we don't know if they're going to cheat enough to pull out a win or if that's going to be contested.
	What we do know for sure is Is that if Trump's team wins, the radical left wing Marxists, they're going to erupt in mass violence and protests and start burning down buildings and attacking who knows what.
	And we also know that if the radical left wins, there are also going to be a lot of unhappy people about that.
	And you know what?
	The left-wing lunatics, they may set off their own violence against America anyway, thinking now no one can stop them.
	So they might say that that's the right time for them to activate all their invaders and all the illegal migrants and the violent people who have come into this country with the intent to carry out acts of terrorism domestically.
	And it's not just me saying this.
	The U.S. military is warning about this, and National Guard organizations, even the FBI, has similar warnings right now.
	Everybody knows that this is a season of high risk for terrorism attacks domestically, for sabotage against America internally by different groups who have different motivations.
	You know, some of them might be from the Middle East, and they hate America for America's support of Israel.
	Others, they might be Antifa or radical left-wing groups, and they hate America because, well, they're Marxists and they're communists.
	Some people hate Trump.
	Some groups just hate the American flag.
	They hate freedom. I don't know.
	There are all kinds of psychos and mentally ill individuals out there and violent terrorists, and we need to be prepared with some basic common sense readiness items.
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	The whole world's not going to come to an end, folks.
	We can get through this together.
	We just have to be ready, have some common sense, be wise.
	Keep a level head.
	Whatever happens, it's good to know.
	Hey, we can handle that.
	Grocery stores are shut down?
	No problem. We've got our own backup food.
	Oh, electricity is down for a few days or a few weeks?
	Guess what? We've got backup water supplies.
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	Or we have a way to survive.
	That's all. That's what I'm saying is just be ready with all kinds of different strategies for survival.
	Right, Rhodey? Yeah, come on up.
	What do you have to say about survival?
	Yeah, come on up. Yeah, you're a good boy.
	We've got Rhodey here. He's also all in for survival.
	As long as it involves lots of ring toys, then he's going to be okay.
	You good? Yeah?
	Okay, that's what I thought.
	He's all into survival, especially self-survival.
	But folks, be ready for disruptions.
	This is also the season of false flag operations.
	So we're facing many threats from many different parties, most of whom really want to destroy America.
	And we have to make sure that we don't let them do that.
	We need to stand strong and defend this country, defend our communities, defend our rule of law.
	And we can't do that if we're in line at a food bank or starving to death or suffering an infection.
	We don't have medicine or natural medicine.
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	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon and the Health Ranger Store.
	Thank you for watching today.
	Take care. Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
	You know me, of course, as the Health Ranger.
	I've been an advocate of health freedom, nutrition, and disease prevention for now over two decades, by the way.
	So I kind of have to laugh when a lot of people are all of a sudden discovering movements like, you know, Make America Healthy Again.
	When it's people like myself and my guests who have been in essence fighting for these issues for literally decades and making a lot of progress, I should say.
	Now it's a national conversation.
	How can we have a sustainable society if our people are obese and diseased and suffering from chronic degenerative disease and nutritional deficiencies on top of that?
	The answer is we can't.
	We've got to get back to the basics of health.
	And our guests today are part of an organization that has been spearheading that effort for many, many years.
	It's called the Alliance for Natural Health, anh-usa.org.
	We've got the founder with us today and chief science officer, Dr.
	Rob Verkirk, joining us here, as well as the new lead counsel, Jonathan Emord, the so-called FDA dragon slayer is a nickname that he earned.
	Welcome, gentlemen, to the show today.
	It's an honor to have you both on.
	Fantastic to be with you, Mike.
	Great to have you both here.
	You're both champions, in my mind, for the things that you are doing.
	But let's start with the big news.
	So just recently, Jonathan Emord announced as a new, is it lead counsel for A&H? Is that the correct title?
	General counsel. General counsel.
	So tell us, Jonathan, what does that involve now?
	What are you going to be doing with A&H? I would imagine it's going to be even more amazing from what A&H has already been doing, but go ahead.
	Well, for years and years now, I think over two decades, I've been external counsel to A&H and specifically working for Rob Verkirk, Dr.
	Rob Verkirk. He's brilliant, and I was just taken aback by the opportunity to be a part of the organization going forward, particularly now as he confronts a whole host of regulatory incursions both in the United States and in Europe.
	And, you know, his track record in Europe is substantial.
	He pushed back against the EU successfully on repeat occasions, preventing the wholesale destruction of what were historic herbal remedies.
	And he also, of course, authorized that litigation, I think, some six times where I defeated the Food and Drug Administration.
	on constitutional grounds under the First Amendment.
	So he and I have a long track record together and he is a great leader and so it's a privilege for me to serve ANH as its general counsel and fulfill the legal part of the ANH mission.
	There are two component parts of the mission.
	One is educational and one is lobbying and legal and I'll be in charge of that litigation effort in the courts.
	Well, that's really great news for all of us to hear, those of us who believe in health freedom.
	And Rob, if I may call you Rob, this is the first time that I've interviewed you.
	You look great.
	You look so young and healthy and vibrant.
	Seriously, must be something to do with the things that you advocate your organization.
	Look, I'm an absolute passionate believer in natural health, as you are, Mike.
	I've followed your work from the beginning.
	I'm a scientist, so I've come from a background of really trying to understand the intimate connection between human beings and nature.
	And one of the sort of shocks that occurs is this sort of blind deference to technology as a solution.
	And that's what's created this business with disease, this notion that if we pretty much live our lives, you know, triggering opioid reward pathways, eating junk foods, and eventually we turn up at a doctor and Believe that we can take a pill for an ill.
	And that system is now collapsing completely.
	Yes, it is. The bottom line is that people aren't being led towards a path of reconnection with nature.
	They're still being taken to a path where Technology, despite its many failures, is still assumed to provide a solution.
	So we see people now believing that AI or gene editing, CRISPR technology, will deliver a solution.
	Well, it's fine. We passionately believe in choice.
	That may be the choice of some, but the difficulty now is those of us who want to reconnect with nature to use natural products to maintain our health are being given a harder and harder time.
	And it used to be just restriction of products.
	Now we see This cabal of big government.
	We see supranational organizations coming together, essentially appointing a faceless organization like the WHO in charge.
	And that control, that autonomy, that's a fundamental principle, bioethics, is being taken away from us.
	And frankly, a lot of people are asleep at the tiller, so we need to wake them up.
	It's absolutely Orwellian, and it's horrifying what the WHO is doing, trying to say that anything that they don't, State is misinformation or disinformation.
	You may be aware that my company has filed suit against government agencies as well as big tech on this very issue, a First Amendment issue having to do with health freedom.
	And I'd like to get your response to this, Rob, first, and then I'll go back to Jonathan Emord.
	But there seems to be an attempt by governments and technology corporations to achieve a cultural challenge Memory wipe to wipe out all knowledge of herbs and botanicals, natural medicines, essential oils, homeopathy, you name it, so that people forget what has been medicine for as long as humanity has been on this earth.
	Look, that's exactly part of it.
	The idea is to create an in-group, if you like, where people are forced to have a certain set of beliefs that are completely in line with national authorities.
	If you look at YouTube's Medical misinformation policy that was launched on the 15th of August last year basically says they're going to disallow any content that is not in line with either national authorities or the World Health Organization.
	Despite the fact that WHO has a traditional medicines division, essentially the people who are at work trying to effectively push different parts of the population into echo chambers so that they all fight with each other are really not happy to see anything that is about health promotion, particularly if it's natural.
	And you only need to keep this up for a generation or two and that knowledge will be lost.
	Absolutely. Now, Jonathan Imord, it seems to me you've argued many First Amendment cases.
	Could you speak to us about the extreme assaults against First Amendment when it comes to health, nutrition, superfoods, and botanicals?
	Well, when it comes to this whole movement, even within the FDA, they have a section now on misinformation.
	This is just a standard censorship move that is historic.
	I mean, it's been this way even in England before the expiry of the Licensing Act for Speech.
	This sort of heavy-handed government intrusion where they attempt to nix any statement made regarding science that disagrees with their orthodoxy that they are enforcing...
	It's outrageous. We should regard it as a classic example of a violation of the First Amendment.
	Whether it comes through instrumentalities that are private, that are in cahoots with the government, or the government directly, it still constitutes a violation of the First Amendment.
	If the industry functions, and I mean big tech, functions as an agent for WHO, as Dr.
	Verkirk was mentioning, That's state censorship when the United States allows that to happen and permits it through CDC and through FDA, indeed encourages it, even the White House encouraging it.
	We saw this written spades during the whole COVID period as they censored any criticism of the COVID vaccine, any attempt to encourage use of alternatives to the vaccine, and any criticism that resulted in anything that called into question administrative positions or even and any criticism that resulted in anything that called into question administrative positions or even the positions of the White House on the questions that So this has to come to an end, and we're going to be using litigation as a vehicle to help bring that about.
	We will be strongly asserting litigation positions across the board in defense of First Amendment rights.
	If the government proceeds as we anticipate it will with a declaration of a new emergency, a medical emergency, we will be quick to get into the fray and fight for the First Amendment rights of the American people and across Europe as well, Dr.
	Dr. Rekirke will be swinging the revolutionary axe against the tree of censorship.
	And still, as this happens.
	In the United States now, we have a truly historic Supreme Court decision that you're very much aware of that has struck down what's called Chevron deference, which really speaks to the overreach of the, what do you call it,
	the fiefdoms of regulators creating their own law Hasn't this Supreme Court decision effectively created a lot of low-hanging fruit that's just begging for litigation to push back hard against the overzealous overreach of these regulators?
	Yes, your point is one that Dr.
	Burkirk and I have talked about extensively, and we have worked together to come up with a whole agenda for litigating predicated upon the Loefer Bright Enterprises decision that overruled Chevron.
	People need to understand that under this doctrine that was overruled called Chevron, any time the agency was able to argue that there was ambiguity in a statute or silence on a point that was under their purview, they were given license by the courts to interpret the statute, what it meant and the courts would defer to that interpretation.
	And this, as I know well from over 38 years of litigation, was an enormous obstacle to every single victory that we won of the 13 victories.
	That was a major obstacle.
	Now what we're looking at is a new environment.
	Loper Bright overruled Chevron and made it the province and duty of the courts to say what the law is.
	What does that mean?
	That means that the agencies no longer have this carte blanche ability to just willy-nilly define the law to mean whatever they want.
	Now they're going to have to prove that they're acting in complete accordance with the statutes that govern them, and the courts will be interpreting the meaning of the statute without any deference whatsoever to the agency beyond listening to the agency as an equal litigant with me, and And so that's what we're going to take full advantage of.
	There's another decision, too, called Axon Enterprises that is a great victory for us as well.
	In that one, we no longer have to wait for exhaustion of administrative remedies, years and years and years of administrative litigation to get into court on a constitutional challenge.
	We can go directly to court during an administrative process against a defendant and pursue constitutional remedies against the agency for its unlawful, unconstitutional practices and procedures.
	So it seems to me, one more follow-up question for you, Jonathan, and then we'll go to Rob, but it seems to me that there was nothing, and correct me if I'm wrong, There was nothing in the original congressional creation of the FDA that gave the FDA permission to censor free speech, especially truthful speech.
	If somebody is saying, hey, I sell cherry extracts and cherry extracts, here's the published medical literature published by PubMed, U.S. funded research that says cherry extracts can treat and prevent gout, let's say, right?
	Is there anything that Congress gave the FDA the power to censor that truthful speech?
	Well, the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act does allow the FDA to approve a drug, which is defined as something that is intended for use in the cure, treatment, mitigation, and prevention of disease.
	And they have looked at statements such as that to characterize the underlying product as a drug.
	But by focusing on speech, as they do presently and have since the 1930s, They aim at censoring any statement that might be regarded as competitive with a drug product or drug representation of its utility and efficacy.
	They are a major censorship organ that violates the First Amendment.
	The First Amendment is paramount even to the statute, and so to the extent that the statute can rightfully be interpreted as a censorship tool, it too should fall under the First Amendment.
	The First Amendment is an absolute bar of any power whatsoever in the federal government over speech and press.
	There can be no action like there is presently where they require you to go to the government in the first instance before you can make a truthful statement about the effect of a nutrient or a drug or anything.
	The FDA exercises that power and it really is a prior restraint that is a classic violation of the First Amendment.
	Ultimately, that has to be challenged and we must win that.
	And I suspect that this court is more apt to side for us, this Supreme Court majority, on these questions because they have made original construction of the Constitution their hallmark.
	And clearly, at the time of the first Congress, James Madison and those who voted for what constituted ultimately the First Amendment to the United States Constitution never intended the federal government to wield any censorship power whatsoever.
	Clearly, clearly. Wow. So Rob, with Jonathan Emord officially joining ANH, it seems to me that what ANH USA is doing here in the States is, I would argue, your organization is the single most important organization for protecting access to nutritional supplements, herbs, homeopathy, essential oils, and all these other things that people use to help support and maintain their good health.
	Do you agree with that statement or would you like to add to it?
	I mean, yeah, look, absolutely.
	In terms of track record, in terms of also bringing the science and the law together, I think this is this is critical.
	The the the if you like, the playing field that we're working with is is not quite what it seems.
	The the.
	Our opponents, if you like, are always trying to second guess what any of us might do with the law.
	And that's one of the reasons we need a people's movement.
	So if you look at the If you like, the emergence of this corporatocracy, the way in which governments work with corporations, they work as one in the knowledge, for example, that if governments try and restrict free speech, they can be challenged under the First Amendment.
	But if everyone becomes hooked to, for example, social media platforms, not like yours, but like Facebook, like Instagram, like YouTube...
	And that becomes the, if you like, the town, the digital town square in which we share information, then private corporations can do whatever they want to do.
	And that is what is so seminal in terms of a number of cases.
	One, obviously, that got lost at the final hurdle in the Supreme Court, Murti v.
	Missouri. It's the degree to which The government coerces or bullies or interacts with private social media companies to do the dirty work.
	And of course, the flip side of that as well is governments do whatever they can to become, if you like, the advertising agency For new pharma.
	And, of course, New Pharma is this emerging industry that we see that's moving away from the classic new to nature model of pharmaceuticals that has been collapsing steadily since the patent cliff was hit in about 2010 or so.
	And is moving ever more rapidly in the direction of biologics and biosimilars, which is effectively converging on the space that we want to be natural products.
	So if you look at what's beginning to happen now in the field of peptides, for example, you'll see that the FDA has last year added 22 peptides to the Category 2 bulk substances list that puts them effectively on the compounding you'll see that the FDA has last year added 22 peptides to the Category 2 bulk substances list that
	But when you break it down, what they're using is really a European model, a Napoleonic model that says you are guilty unless proven innocent.
	Of course, they're saying these peptides have problems with missing data or potential immunogenicity.
	And of course, we've just seen in the last few days the fact that A particular peptide that potentially could be a central part of a health revolution, thymocin, that comes from the thymocin gland, is now on the FDA radar.
	So slowly but steadily, they are...
	Moving into exactly the same space that those of us who have seen the extreme value of natural products.
	And the reason that they are so valuable is we've had eons, millions of years to co-evolve around these natural products.
	But pharma, new pharma, which is really working very closely with big biotech and also in terms of communication with big tech, wants to see action in the same space.
	So we've really got to be eyes wide open.
	We can't just rely on legal solutions.
	We need a people's movement, a revolution.
	We need The health professions to really understand what the future is going to look like.
	And we also need to be able to develop workarounds to negotiate around this minefield that has been created.
	Well, and it's truly extraordinary the number of weapons that governments and regulators are deploying now to try to silence truthful speech about natural products.
	And in case you're not aware of our lawsuit, what it uncovers is how the federal government laundered censorship requests through overseas NGOs, some based out of the UK.
	And then those NGOs developed censorship target list and censorship protocols that then go to big tech.
	So in this way, the government can claim that, well, we didn't censor big tech, but we funded these overseas NGOs.
	They did the censorship.
	This is exactly what's going on right now.
	And as an example of this, by the way, I've started teaching nutritional Bible sermons.
	I've recorded and posted 45 Bible sermons about the foods of the Bible.
	Tried to post sermon number one to YouTube.
	Bible nutrition, flagged, removed for medical misinformation.
	You can't even teach scripture on YouTube if you mention healing foods.
	That's how crazy it has become.
	Either one of you want to comment on that?
	Look, I'm happy to comment on it.
	Look, it's extraordinary.
	The bottom line is it immediately conflicts with that medical misinformation policy because they're saying if the NIH hasn't said it and if the WHO hasn't said it, you can't say it.
	But there's another part, another layer to this, which is not only the censorship of speech, it's the re-education of young people.
	They're fully aware that those of us who've lived a few decades probably have made our mind up on certain issues.
	But if you look, you mentioned these international organizations.
	If you look what's happening in certain academic circles, it was very well shown during the Nobel Prize Summit in Washington DC in May last year.
	They're basically bringing a whole bunch of academic institutions into the mix who are trying to We re-educate young people over how to identify misinformation.
	So, in particular, if you look at the Cambridge University Social Decision-Making Lab, run by a gentleman by the name of Dr.
	Sander van der Linden, it's quite extraordinary.
	They're working together with the World Health Organization.
	They've produced games.
	They are gamifying the whole idea of Identifying misinformation, anything at all that does not comply with WHO or NIH or agencies like that is identified as weird and wacky and needs to be run away from.
	So they're using actually a vaccination technique.
	They believe if you can inoculate them with a little dose of misinformation, they'll be wide awake to it and will just walk the other way.
	Well said. Let me give out your website.
	anh-usa.org is the website, Alliance for Natural Health.
	And I want to encourage everybody watching this to join the organization.
	Click the Join button here on the top right.
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	You can join the organization.
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	But most importantly, spread the mission, spread the word.
	They have a whole news section, and they're going to be doing a lot of incredible work with Jonathan Emord.
	So there's going to be a lot to talk about, I think, in the next couple of years.
	Here we go.
	Look at some of the activities that A&H has already achieved and much more coming.
	So, Jonathan Ebert, tell us, if you would, please, how can A&H, with your legal expertise, how can A&H, to the extent of what you can say today, how can A&H push back against this and achieve these victories, which I would consider how can A&H push back against this and achieve these victories, which I would consider to Humanity deserves the right to access natural medicine just as much as humanity deserves the right to access water and air.
	It's the same in my book, but how will this happen, Jonathan?
	So we already have 13 victories against the FDA, and these are largely in areas where they are either restricting access to information or are arbitrarily creating barriers to market entry that prevent competition to pharma.
	That, as you heard from Dr.
	Verkirk, is going to expand in spades as they take over the whole treatment of what constitutes misinformation, and they use proxies illegitimately to do the dirty work for them.
	And this is not something that is brand new.
	It's new in its scope and extent.
	But in the litigation that I've had over the years, I've seen this very corruption within the government where you can no longer take it for granted that the laws of legal ethics will be followed by those in the administrative state.
	Indeed, frequently, there are corrupt corporate influences that are overt that prevent products from entering the market.
	But we're going to be attacking on all sorts of grounds across the board to roll back this expansion of power and work against it.
	So for example, we now have a situation with homeopathy in the United States In which the FDA revoked a compliance policy guideline that was the basis for allowing homeopathy and have insisted that homeopathic products comply with the drug approval process,
	which was clearly not the intent of those who drafted the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and recognized homeopathy as a viable and independent from drugs, that is, new drugs, Category, yet that has happened.
	There has been some unsuccessful litigation brought against FDA But we are going to attack on a new basis that we'll tell you about at the time that the pleading is filed that will enable us to argue anew that this action is a violation of the plain and intended meaning of the act as well as an action that is strongly suppressive of the free speech rights of those people who have been engaged in this profession for hundreds of years.
	So that's one example, but we have numerous instances now where we can take action.
	You know, to give you another one quickly, under the Food Drug FDA Modernization Act, there was a provision inserted to rebel against FDA censorship of authoritative statements of government health agencies.
	There are thousands of nutrient disease relationships That are recognized by agencies other than FDA and have been published in peer reviewed literature and as official pronouncements of these agencies.
	FDA censors that even though the act, even though Congress said open the door to it, allow it into the marketplace.
	Well, we're going to knock this barrier down because they're violating the act and Loper Bright invites us to go back to the original meaning of the statute.
	We're going to knock this thing down and when we do, we will see the marketplace filled with scientific information that will enable consumers to understand the intrinsic I'd like to add,
	well, I want to ask another question of both of you about the economic and the financial implications of what I would call FDA tyranny against freedom of speech.
	Right now, the United States, the national debt is over $35 trillion.
	Unfunded liabilities are $220 trillion.
	Money printing is going insane.
	The kids are diseased.
	They're largely obese.
	They're suffering from very early symptoms of Chronic degenerative cardiovascular disease, blood sugar metabolism disorders, neurological disorders.
	And then the answer, as we hear from our government, which is heavily influenced by pharma, is, oh, inject them with GLP-1 drugs.
	Inject the children with more drugs.
	Don't worry about what they're eating.
	Just inject them with more drugs, more medications, more psychiatric drugs.
	My question to both of you, gentlemen, is, financially, Can America even survive financially if we keep spending trillions of dollars on medicating and injecting people when they're not getting well?
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Jonathan, you want to take it first, and then we'll go back to Rob.
	Well, on the science side of that, I'm going to leave it to Dr.
	Verkirk. But I must say that the economic impact...
	It is immense when you consider that, look, we have 110,000 people dying from FDA approved drugs every year.
	We have numerous unsafe drugs in the market.
	At the same time, we have information that is indispensable to saving people's lives that the FDA is blocking from the marketplace until I sue them and succeed or we get it through some way.
	Also, we have all of these products that have great promise that the drug approval process prevents from getting into the market.
	And these are innovations in medicine.
	Unless you have $2.8 billion in your pocket, you're not able to get through the drug approval process.
	As a result, medical devices, drugs that people are inventing and discovering that can hold great promise, including nutraceuticals, are not able to reach people as treatment modalities.
	What does this mean? This means that the cost of all things we consume is higher because we don't have competitive entry.
	In addition, the cost of drugs in particular is higher Also, the access to information necessary to be healthy and to improve your health is so severely restricted that we don't see any meaningful change in longevity in the United States, and we see the progression of age-related disease, and now we see all the vaccine-related injuries and likely age-related disease onsets, early onsets, as a result of the vaccine.
	So, the paradigm shift has been in favor of government And corporate merger, corporatism, at the expense and both economic and physical expense of the American people.
	And this is true around the world.
	So anyway, Dr. Verkirk can speak to the science aspects of this.
	Please do, Rob. Please. I mean, very briefly, on the economic side, there isn't a clear relationship, you know, except at the lowest levels between the amount of money you spend on health care and outcomes, either if you look at lifespan or healthspan.
	And, of course, the U.S., when you look at global data, is already an outlier, spending vast amounts per capita.
	The idea that you can spend more and suddenly deliver good outcomes is fantastic.
	Frankly, a pipe dream.
	In many ways, what we suffer from is a problem of cultural, behavioral, psychological addiction to this notion that we can turn up at a GP, at a family physician, or go to a pharmacy and find a solution.
	There is a huge job that needs to be done to re-educate people, that as we see the increasing burden from age-related diseases collapsing the mainstream health system, people have to You know, take the reins themselves, put themselves in the driving seat.
	And frankly, they can't go to standard conventional healthcare providers and learn about that.
	And that's why the whole so-called alternative health movement or anti-aging movement, you know, traditional medicines movement, all these movements are absolutely vital.
	And it's also another reason why they're going after freedom of speech so that it becomes ever harder to educate in relation to products at least.
	So the future does lie in the hands of people learning more how to drive this incredibly sophisticated multidimensional machine that we call the human body.
	People don't know how to use it, how to work with it, how to consume the right foods.
	The problems with, say, government restriction, we have also a very uneven playing field in terms of how they are treating others in the business.
	They want to fast track mRNA vaccines on the back of a so-called success that many of us would deem a failure of COVID-19 vaccines.
	They want to essentially put CRISPR-edited foods into our mouths and particularly our children's mouths without doing any safety evaluation on the basis that these contain molecules and enzymes.
	Specific ingredients that could be produced by conventional plant or animal breeding.
	That is something that needs to be stopped.
	We see products like Bored Cow already on the market.
	We see people using the climate change debate.
	As a vehicle to push veganism so that they can be an increased market for fake meats and fake dairy products.
	So there is a huge educational job required to get people to get over their addiction to the system that simply isn't delivering health for anyone.
	Well, you're exactly right about that, Rob.
	And let me have a follow-up question for you on that because I am hearing and witnessing through family members and friends and so on who are interacting with the medical system, conventional medical system in America.
	And the system is absolutely cratering.
	The staff are increasingly incompetent.
	They cannot function.
	They've lost the ability.
	I'm hearing so many stories of this.
	Even the doctors are complaining that the insurance companies are just in the way.
	The system is broken.
	The government mandates will criminalize doctors for making common sense recommendations.
	Like I said, the staffers barely know what's going on.
	The scheduling software doesn't work.
	There are hacks all the time.
	Medical records are being stolen left and right.
	I am hearing more and more from people in your comments, please, that They're done.
	Barring some kind of major life-threatening emergency where they have to go to the ER, which I understand that, but barring that, they're done with doctors.
	They are seeking out deliberately ways to avoid having to go through that nightmare.
	Yeah, look, that absolutely is happening.
	And of course, that's one of the reasons that self-care, Dr.
	Google, call it what you like, are massively under attack.
	It's why CISA has been set up in the US as an agency specifically to deal ostensibly with cybersecurity, but actually it's going to be dealing with so-called mis, dis and mal information.
	The irony here is that it's deemed that We, the public, and, you know, health professionals as well as climate change deniers and those who...
	There are three areas they're going after consistently.
	One is in the area of health, one is in climate change, and the third is in electoral problems and politics.
	Those are the areas that they want to control.
	And so it's deemed that we are the people who are putting out misinformation.
	The irony, when you look at it, It's the other way around more often than not.
	The misinformation that's being put out, for example, around semaglutides, I think we may see, because it delivers short-term benefit, The sheer cost and the economics as well as the side effects.
	There's a beginning, emerging data that's even been published in JAMA to suggest that suicide ideation may increase for people who are on long-term semiglutides, skinny jabs like a Zempik, for example.
	So we need to see people kind of waking up to the problems around their family members.
	We need to see also a much better, if you like, collaboration on our side, cohesion within the health movement so that people can be managed by, if you like,
	a joined up health system that sees the body from a holistic point a joined up health system that sees the body from a holistic point of view, that we're operating this health ecosystem in which not just the food that we eat and the medicines that we take, but also the social interactions Our psychological, mental, and spiritual health is managed in ways that keep us healthy at all levels.
	And that system, if you like, they are deliberately trying to break it down.
	They're using social media as a mechanism to push people into specific echo chambers so that People in even the same family are actually, if they do identical searches on their iPhones or on their computers, they will get different results coming up.
	Depending on how echo chambers and shadow bands have been organized.
	And what that does is create social conflict so that people are fighting amongst each other.
	And of course, divide and conquer is one of the oldest techniques in the book to assert control and power over populations.
	You have a really high-level view of this.
	I'm so glad to hear you say what you just said, because this is a big picture.
	I call this a war on humanity, and there are sectors of that war.
	There's a war on the family. There's a war on reason, right?
	There's a war on health.
	There's a war on atmospheric chemistry.
	A war on CO2 is a war on photosynthesis, and a war on photosynthesis is a war on food crops.
	It just goes on and on, so I'm glad you have that high-level view.
	Along those lines, let me ask Jonathan.
	Outcomes. Here's what's amazing to me.
	The people that I know who eat holistic foods, who use superfoods, nutritional supplements, the botanicals, and who avoid prescription drugs, these are the healthiest people I know.
	They have great cognition, they have healthy skin, they have healthy bodies.
	But the people who are on medications and who abide by the recommendations of the FDA and the WHO, they are the sickest people, and frankly, since 2020, a lot of them are dead at this point.
	What do you say about health outcomes?
	I mean, isn't it obvious that botanical medicine, supplement medicine, nutraceuticals work better than the system that we're fed?
	Well, you know, we see from the end of World War II forward the development of an industry that actually thrives off of the existence of disease.
	So we have a whole host of drugs that treat symptomology, but none are cures.
	None are actually capable of eliminating the underlying disease.
	This also creates its own disease byproduct, which then again invites more drugs.
	So, for example, we don't treat rheumatoid arthritis with glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate, which rebuilds cartilage.
	Instead, we treat it with NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs that simply treat pain.
	So in the end, the person goes from some cartilage to no cartilage and then bone-on-bone ebernation.
	What do they get? Then they got to go in and have knee replacements or hip replacements and so forth.
	Plus all the intestinal bleeding from the NSAIDs, right?
	Right, right. So this is an industry that profits off of the existence and proliferation of disease.
	People have to understand that.
	We have these Wall Street firms that create disease.
	For example, like SAD, seasonal allergy disorder was created, or metabolic syndrome.
	You just mix a bunch of symptoms together and call it a new thing.
	Then you can create new drugs for it.
	The classic paradigm for this is in the psych drugs.
	I mean, we've got all these SSRI drugs, which now we know don't don't work at all on depression.
	And yet they increase the incidence of suicidality and violent behavior, particularly in youth.
	And yet here they are being popped all over the nation at nurses stations and virtually every school.
	So we have a society that has become sick from the allopathic medical model.
	We have to leave it and we have to find alternatives to it and that's where the problem lies for big pharma.
	They want to snuff out all communication and all options that go outside of this paradigm.
	They control the government.
	They control Medicare.
	They determine through the departments of health and the licensing authorities for doctors and for healthcare practitioners in the state what the medically reasonable and necessary treatment is.
	And that is defined almost exclusively as a therapy that involves drug therapy That is approved by Big Pharma and that is indicative of their agenda for treating disease.
	And this has got to come to an end.
	We have got to get back to a patient-centric model In which physicians are aiming to treat and cure disease and use the best approaches for the particular patient, recognizing that this one-size-fits-all paradigm,
	where you give one drug for a whole category of people and those people have different histories, medical histories, different biological characteristics, and yet you're treating them with one pill, one dose, one approach, dogmatically, whether it works or not.
	We need health freedom zones in America.
	I've advocated for this for years.
	You know how in Texas, for example, which is very much a pro-Second Amendment state, the state passed a law that said that suppressors, firearms suppressors, can be manufactured within the state of Texas if they're kept within the state.
	And of course, there's a lawsuit with the feds over that.
	But I would love to advocate states like Texas or other states saying, well, we're going to declare this state to be a health freedom zone or even call it a health freedom sanctuary state.
	You know, whatever you want to call it.
	And we're going to say that the federal laws against freedom of speech and against freedom of medical practice, they are null and void within this state.
	And let's see that showdown.
	I'd like to see that happen.
	Rob? Mike, I've got to say, I'm speaking to you from Texas right now.
	Oh, you are? I did not know that.
	Yeah, I'm absolutely up for that.
	Coming back to the question you made about people who are taking botanicals and natural products being healthier, the system has been set up.
	We call it the missing healthy system.
	The business for the disease is so well developed that most of the statistics that governments are working with that are then fed through the mass media machine are based on disease, not on health.
	So actually, those of us who bypass the health system because we don't need to go in and have regular blood tests and have our markers checked, we never develop disease, we're completely absent from their databases.
	That's right. So they never see us at all.
	So we are, you know, if you look at the concept of the blue zones, the five areas in the world where you get centenarians living with little or no chronic disease, all of them, incidentally, without technology, they're all sort of natural-based systems.
	We actually have blue zoners all over the world, people living like that, but they don't appear on statistics.
	So the evidence-based medicine system that has It's been distorted from the original ideas that David Sackett and others developed in the early 1990s.
	He published a paper in 1996 in the British Medical Journal already saying it has been distorted.
	You've taken clinical experience out of the picture.
	The RCT model now is viewed as the gold standard and particularly meta-analyses of it.
	So once they control the funding, once they control RCTs that essentially Well stated.
	Yeah, so RCTs have become this standard simply because statistically they give you good internal validation.
	However, they give you no bearing on what happens in the real world, and that needs to be understood.
	Well, and let me show you this. I mean, here's my daily smoothie, right?
	So this is avocados, bananas, turmeric.
	I have sprouted broccoli seeds in here.
	Yeah, absolutely. Numerous, numerous other things that I include in here, but I drink turmeric every day, every single day, and I've been doing it for, I don't know, 15 years.
	But I'm disrupting the medical system.
	I'm disrupting the cartels.
	They can't make money off of me because I'm never going to show up at a cancer center.
	I'm never going to show up at a diabetes clinic.
	It's not going to happen because cause and effect.
	I believe in cause and effect.
	If we don't believe in cause and effect, then we don't believe in the laws of chemistry and the table of elements and the laws of physics and the flow of time.
	If we believe in cause and effect, then we know that disease is not actually spontaneous.
	Disease has causes.
	And we can... We can interdict that with good nutrition, nutraceuticals, superfoods, healthy lifestyles, good rest, good sleep, good social interaction, clean water, freedom from toxins.
	And we're never taught this information.
	It's absolutely infuriating that the world we live in is just, how do we profit off of people suffering and disease?
	I mean, Jonathan, what...
	It's crazy that we live in this environment.
	It can't go on much longer.
	I don't know what else to say.
	I get a little excited about this topic.
	For truth to come to the fore, for people to comprehend what is true, requires a wide-open, robust marketplace of ideas.
	This is not a new thought.
	This is something that goes back at least to Aeropagitica in the 16th century when John Milton recognized this syllogism, basically the idea that somehow if you allow free speech, if you allow individuals the opportunity to debate, that through that contest of ideas there would come elements of truth that would be perceived and that would advance mankind.
	What we have from this state-centric approach, where the government is to control everything and define what constitutes accurate information and what constitutes misinformation, which they will suppress, is the very old age censorship that held back the progress of mankind as clearly as it did before the expiry of the Licensing Act in England.
	Here we have it all over again.
	And so what we see are more sophisticated technological means to deny American people access to information and products, but it's the same old, heavy-handed, centralized government approach that is at issue.
	And this approach is strongly fed by our enemies, by the Communist Chinese, by those who believe that The individuals do not have a right to discern for themselves what is in their own best interest.
	That's not what the First Amendment or our Constitution stands for.
	That's antithetical to the idea of individual rights.
	We have an absolute right to access, receive and communicate information in a wide open marketplace of ideas and we can trust, as the First Amendment does, an individual discernment to choose what's in your own best interest without having a bureaucratic nanny tell you what you have to do based on information.
	Amen. Amen. And this is the issue of decentralization, right?
	And also, you know how in crypto they talk about self-custody, like you should control your wallet.
	Well, what about your health self-custody?
	You should control your health decisions.
	You should have absolute control over what you want to do, what kind of interventions you believe are justified in your situation because no one else can know your body better than you know it can.
	And so, Rob, one of the reasons I love your organization, again, let me show the website, Alliance for Natural Health, anh-usa.org.
	I want to encourage everybody, click join.
	Join the organization here, and I'm showing you some of the recent articles.
	But you teach people self-custody over their own health.
	That is critical for human freedom.
	Totally. One of the things that they've been doing, and COVID acted as an extraordinary catalyst for it, is to completely disempower the relationship that people have had with their physician.
	This is a relationship that goes back thousands and thousands of years.
	And in a matter of five years, they've got now the average doctor looking over their shoulder, wondering, If the medical board will allow them to keep their license, what the FDA and others are saying.
	And of course, there's another layer now.
	These supranational organizations like the WHO, who are also intimately connected with the World Economic Forum and others, to create a destiny that increasingly takes power away from the individual.
	And again, if we look at, for a minute, the medical boards, We're good to go.
	Where you do what you want to do, that you look at your own needs, that you make your own choices.
	The second one is beneficence, where the health practitioner, the medical doctor does good.
	The third, primum non necessari, maleficence, do no harm.
	And the fourth, justice.
	Those four principles in the space of the last five years have been shattered.
	So we need to be able to put them back on the table.
	We need medical doctors and other health professionals to be re-inspired that these principles that you'll find deep in the literature of the ancient Greek, they go back into the traditional systems in India of Ayurveda, even into China, into traditional Chinese medicine, have now completely been compromised.
	And if we don't bring them back, and if people don't I want to thank you so much for bringing this to us today and give you an opportunity for final thoughts.
	Jonathan, and also this has been a vocabulary lesson today.
	We've heard Maleficence, I think you just said, and then we heard syllogism from Jonathan earlier and so on.
	These are not words that people hear a lot, so you're welcome to throw some more at us.
	You can pop quiz our audience today, but Jonathan, what are your final thoughts?
	Well, I think we've talked a lot about depressing things today.
	I'm really rather optimistic because I have seen what we can do in court.
	I know that Dr. Verkirk has succeeded in the European Union and in the United States in knocking down these barriers.
	I've had a good opportunity in the U.S. to be a legal advocate for ANH in the past.
	I know what we can do, and I know that people can trust in us to fight vociferously.
	There's another word to look up.
	In defense of our rights.
	And that's what we have to do.
	ANH is uniquely situated to do that.
	I might mention this also.
	I'm heartened by RFK Jr.'s association with Donald Trump.
	And the reason why I say that is that if Donald Trump becomes elected president, and RFK Jr.
	has a pivotal, central role in these areas, we know from working with the organization Children's Health Defense, which he established, That he is a proven advocate against the insanity that has become the mass inoculation of everyone from a newborn all the way through to adulthood and this whole movement for healthier foods,
	for turning back the clock And getting us back to nature and what we had depended upon so successfully to build strong human beings all the way up until we started to make sort of Franken foods.
	So there's a real hope here and a promise of a better day.
	We just have to play our cards right.
	I would urge people to strongly support ANH. If you can donate, please do.
	It'll make a huge difference.
	This money will be used to pursue these ends.
	And likewise, I sure hope that RFK Jr.
	has a role to play in the new administration.
	I'm so glad you mentioned that.
	I meant to ask you about RFK Jr.
	and it's rumored that he may be placed, again, if Trump wins and if that win is properly defended by the attorneys, that RFK Jr.
	may be placed at head of HHS. I can't think of a more historic appointment today.
	In the history of the FDA or the history of the HHS, I've even told people that RFK Jr.
	as head of HHS is a more compelling reason to vote for Trump than voting for Trump himself.
	It's like... This is so amazing.
	As you're pointing out, Mike, very well, it would be a revolution.
	We have only seen people who are basically defenders of the status quo in that position ever since it was created.
	If we had an HHS secretary who truly advocated for us and fought against Big Pharma and fought against the whole big food industry and its attempts to really turn foods into just a chemical that is synthetic, this would be great for the health of American people.
	It would ensure that there is a new standard in the world that goes against this idea that every answer to every problem lies in a pill or that every answer to every problem lies in forgetting about your own nature and what foods actually do to your body.
	Well said.
	Rob, your final thoughts of our conversation today?
	Yes, look, I may have been a little bit doom and gloom, but part of that is really understanding the nature of the problems that we face.
	If we don't see that we have a huge problem developing around us, we will not have enough people moving towards solutions.
	And the really exciting thing is that there are so many people and organizations coming together that are completely solution-based.
	And one of the things we're doing in the ANH, using the alliance part of of who we are, is really building alliances around the world for people who are solution-based.
	So I'll just introduce, Jonathan's already mentioned them, but we've brought up a few new terms.
	I've got two words, donate now.
	Putting fuel in the machine is going to be the main limitation to what we can do.
	There is a huge amount of multiple levels that both Allows freedom to exist, autonomy to develop, as well as finding ways of curbing this transition that we're seeing in big tech, big pharma, towards trying to just use human beings as guinea pigs for their latest money-making technologies that are really full of a whole lot of known as well as unpredictable harms.
	So we need to deal with it from both sides.
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	Welcome to today's sermon.
	I'm Mike Adams with Abundance.Church, and our new website is up and functioning now.
	You can go to Abundance.Church, and you can join the email list there.
	It's free. And we'll email you when we have significant things to announce, like the new upcoming song.
	It's a song I composed, and I performed the Bible rap.
	It's called God is with Us.
	And I think you'll really enjoy the song, although it is somewhat, well, there are scenes in it that are kind of graphic showing the horrific nightmare that is our current society.
	But that's actually kind of fitting because today we're talking about Jeremiah chapter 9.
	Well, we'll start with chapter 9.
	Now... Jeremiah, of course, the weeping prophet as he was known.
	And by the way, we will cover Isaiah, we will cover Ezekiel and Daniel, and so on.
	We will get to those chapters, but I feel like we kind of left off on Jeremiah.
	We finished up, I did previous sermons of chapters 1 all the way through, I think, chapter 9.
	And, you know, of course, Jeremiah is – the whole book is about God's unhappiness with how the Israelites have turned wicked and turned against God and God promises judgment against them.
	And this is, of course, a repeating theme, especially throughout the Old Testament where, you know, God was running an experiment basically to say, hey, can I take a group of Israelites and turn them into good people?
	And for the most part, the answer was no.
	Couldn't do it over and over again.
	They kept turning wicked and so he would destroy them and then they would beg forgiveness and then he would forgive them and then they would turn back to God for a little while and then they would become wicked again.
	This is kind of the lesson of the Old Testament, which is why I think – at least this is my assessment – that with Christ and the New Testament, God tried something new and different.
	He's like, hey, I'm going to send the personification of myself, God, in the body of Christ.
	I'm going to send my son, Jesus Christ, to live among the humans and to teach love and peace instead of war and threats and everything else and wrath.
	So that's a simplified explanation, obviously, that is this very clear dividing line between the Old and New Testaments.
	But back in Jeremiah, there's a lot more that we can learn from this about what God thinks about humanity.
	And I think a lot of the Old Testament is very relevant to our modern day.
	And that's why I really love to read the books of the Old Testament.
	Now, granted, What I enjoy the most so far in reading and teaching the Bible is the words of Paul the Apostle.
	Paul, a brilliant man in a timeless context, would be considered brilliant today, was beyond brilliant 2,000 years ago or roughly whenever he was living today.
	But we're going to go back way before that now into the Old Testament in the time of Jeremiah.
	And we'll pick it up in chapter 9.
	I'm going to read for you. And of course, I'm reading from the New King James Version.
	So as usual, please forgive me for any mispronunciations of names and places as I tend to do that.
	And sometimes I disagree with the pronunciations as well.
	But I do have a donkey named Hosanna, and I think I got that name nailed down.
	So here we go.
	Chapter 9 of Jeremiah, verse 1.
	Oh, that my head were waters, and my eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people.
	These are the words of Jeremiah, by the way.
	He's grieving over...
	The loss of connection to God among his people.
	Oh, that I had in the wilderness a lodging place for travelers, that I might leave my people and go from them, for they are all adulterers.
	An assembly of treacherous men, he says.
	So he's weeping for them because they're so evil.
	Doesn't that feel familiar right now?
	Don't you kind of weep for your nation right now because it's run by so many evil men and evil women, too, obviously.
	But doesn't that kind of make you cry sometimes?
	Like, this is crazy.
	And then we have words from the Lord.
	And they're always in quotes in the book of Jeremiah here.
	From the Lord. Here we go.
	Verse 3. And like their bow, they have bent their tongues for lies.
	They're not valiant for the truth on the earth, for they proceed from evil to evil, and they do not know me, says the Lord.
	So see, they've bent their tongues for lies.
	They speak lies constantly.
	Does this remind you of our government right now?
	Does this remind you of the corporate establishment, of the science establishment, the medical establishment?
	Yeah. We live in a time that is pretty accurately described in the book of Jeremiah.
	And we are weeping for our world in the same way.
	But the Lord continues.
	Verse 4. Everyone take heed to his neighbor and do not trust any brother, for every brother will utterly supplant and every neighbor will walk with slanderers.
	Everyone will deceive his neighbor and will not speak the truth.
	They have taught their tongue to speak lies.
	They weary themselves to commit iniquity.
	Your dwelling place is in the midst of deceit.
	Through deceit, they refuse to know me, says the Lord.
	So here he is saying, you're living in a society of liars and cheaters and deceivers.
	And what do you see in our world today?
	With elections, a bunch of election cheaters, people who lie, people who deceive.
	We had government-sponsored COVID bailouts.
	I think they were called PPP loans to businesses.
	And wouldn't you know it, there were thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people all across America who pretended to have a business and they filed for PPP money.
	I think that's what it was called.
	And some of these people got millions of dollars in government money by falsely claiming to have a payroll with like 50 people on it.
	So they got all this bailout money.
	They went out and they bought luxury cars and luxury homes and jet skis and jewelry and vacation trips.
	And now many of them are in prison, by the way, because they left a total paper trail of all their fraud.
	But that's the kind of thing that happens in society's That are dominated by deceit, which is exactly the kind of society we live in today.
	So what are the consequences of this?
	Verse 7, It means this society is going to be challenged.
	He means...
	He means the population at large.
	Their tongue is an arrow shot out.
	It speaks deceit.
	One speaks peaceably to his neighbor with his mouth, but in his heart he lies in wait.
	Shall I not punish them for these things, says the Lord?
	Shall I not avenge myself on such a nation as this?
	See how he's even having this debate in the presence of Jeremiah and saying, don't these people deserve to be punished by me?
	They're such liars.
	They're deceivers and they don't even know me.
	They don't know their own creator.
	Verse 10, I will take up a weaking and wailing for the mountains and for the dwelling places of the wilderness, a lamentation because they are burned up so that no one can pass through, nor can men hear the voice of the cattle.
	Both the birds of the heavens and the beasts have fled.
	They are gone.
	I will make Jerusalem a heap of ruins, a den of jackals.
	I will make the cities of Judah desolate without an inhabitant.
	So what's he saying he's going to do?
	He is going to cause natural disasters that destroy the ecosystem of animals and farms and food.
	And thus he talks about there will be no more cattle, the birds will be gone, all the beasts will have fled, everything's burned up, and Jerusalem will be a heap of ruins.
	Okay, so this is his threat.
	When societies turn against God, especially in the Old Testament, he says that he threatens to destroy them.
	So then, from Jeremiah, This is almost Jeremiah putting forth a challenge to God.
	To say to God, Why do you threaten such things when there's no one in our population who even understands what you're saying?
	Who are you speaking to that you think is going to make a difference?
	And why would you destroy the land to affect all the people here, right?
	So this is pretty bold on Jeremiah's part.
	This is kind of a debate with God.
	You know, Jeremiah, he weeps for his people, but he also doesn't want them to suffer and burn.
	And again, don't you feel very much like Jeremiah right now?
	I do. I feel like, wow, our nation has turned to such sin and evil that God's judgment against them Would certainly be spiritually deserved, you could argue, from God's point of view.
	But on the other hand, as a compassionate person, a person of Christ, in the spirit of the New Testament especially, I don't want to see any person suffer.
	I don't want to see harm come to people.
	But what is the proper response from God for those who have turned to such spiritual wickedness and deceit?
	That they cannot help but speak lies constantly and they do not know God.
	What's the proper response?
	Okay? So the Lord attempts to answer that himself.
	Verse 13, So let me pause there.
	They have forsaken my law.
	Well, what are God's laws?
	Those are the laws that he laid down in the covenant with the people.
	I mean, going back to the original covenant with Abraham and the Ten Commandments with Moses.
	I mean, God laid down his laws again and again and again and the rules of entering the tabernacle and so on.
	And God said, you know, you're going to have a certain set of rules in order to coexist with me, your creator.
	And yet, the ancient Israelites or...
	Whatever designation you want to give them, the ancient Hebrew populations, they just repeatedly turn wicked and turn against God.
	They have not obeyed my voice, nor walked according to it, he says.
	And then in verse 14, he says, but they have walked according to the dictates of their own hearts and after the balls, the B-A-A-L-S, the demons, which their fathers taught them.
	Therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, Now, You may be confused by the term wormwood here.
	This does not refer to the herb.
	Remember that, especially in the Old Testament, mentions of wormwood were associated with bitterness because the wormwood herb is a very bitter herb.
	Now, we've covered in another sermon, I'm looking at my chart here, where did I cover wormwood?
	It's one of my previous sermons.
	We covered the healing properties, the herbal properties of the wormwood herb.
	I'm sorry, I can't find that one right now, but it's in my sermons.
	That is not what this is referring to here.
	This is referring to bitterness.
	So behold, I will feed them, this people, with wormwood means God is saying, I'm going to give them bitter food and the water of gall to drink and Well, I don't know exactly what is meant by the water of Gaul, but clearly it refers to something that is bitter, perhaps poisonous, right?
	So the water of Gaul, I believe that refers to toxic water, okay?
	I will scatter them also among the Gentiles.
	So he's going to split up the people of Israel and destroy their community and push them out to live among non-Jews.
	And I will send a sword after them until I have consumed them.
	So he will unleash war against them until they are all killed.
	This is God's promise.
	This is God's promise.
	Okay? So, it seems like Jeremiah, so far, has not convinced the Lord to not kill all the evil Israelites.
	Right? God's like, I'm going to do it!
	I'm going to feed them toxic poisonous water and food and kill them with the swords.
	And then, What happens?
	Well, when people learn about this plan, of course, they start to freak out when populations lose the gifts of God, when they lose the blessings, they lose real wealth, they start to lose their crops and clean water and clean air and all the gifts of the abundance of food that God places here for us.
	When people start to lose those gifts...
	Then, you know, they start to get red-pilled a little bit, and they start to turn back to God and beg God for forgiveness.
	Like, this is the cycle of civilization.
	They turn to evil.
	They beg God for a bailout.
	God bails them out.
	For a while, they're like, oh, God, we love you.
	Thank you for bailing us out. And then one generation later, you know, they're humping the prostitutes at the Roman temples once again and saying, we don't need God.
	We create our own laws, you know, like, To heck with God, and then the whole cycle repeats itself, and then they suffer, you know, total collapse of their civilization.
	So let's go to verse 17.
	Thus says the Lord of hosts.
	Now, these are quotes now quoting the Word of God himself.
	But of course, remember, this is translated.
	And also recall something I brought up in an earlier sermon.
	Remember that God speaks to people in their own native language.
	So this is really interesting to me, because wherever God speaks to prophets all over the world, even today, He speaks to them in their language, right?
	So God is, of course, multilingual, and God can appear to people as a voice in any language, or He can appear as any physical person that he wants to appear as.
	Remember that when Jesus of Nazareth, after he was crucified and he was put in the tomb, and then when they came to the tomb and found that it had been opened and Jesus was no longer there, they encountered a human person there they thought was the gardener.
	But it was Jesus.
	It was Jesus appearing as the gardener.
	Well, how is that possible?
	Because, of course, God can appear as any human or any form that he wants.
	Because it's God.
	He can appear in any form.
	He could appear as a man to those who are expecting a man.
	I mean, technically, I'm not pushing transgenderism or anything, but technically...
	God could appear as a woman.
	God could appear as an old man, a young man, an old woman, a young woman.
	I mean, technically, couldn't God appear as something other than a familiar human form?
	He could appear as someone who looks like a Native American Indian.
	He could appear as someone who looks different than the way we look, right?
	And some of you are freaking out right now.
	You're like, oh my God, how dare you say that?
	Well, I'm just saying that there's no limits to the way God can appear.
	I mean, this is simple God stuff here.
	If Jesus can resurrect himself and appear as a different person, clearly among the powers that God has who created everything is the skill or the power to create or to appear in various human forms.
	So there's no limits to that.
	Obviously, there are no limits to that.
	You know, God could appear as, you know, a 12-foot giant Jesus if he wanted to, right?
	So, I'm just saying, you know, free your mind from all these constructs of what you think Jesus is going to look like or sound like or talk like, because God can appear in many, many different forms, right?
	And this has also been very true in many religions, including different renditions of Catholicism with all kinds of apparitions that appear, and the Blessed Virgin Mary appears in different forms as well.
	So just understand, don't think small about God.
	Think big. God can do anything He wants.
	He can appear in any form He wants.
	But right now, he's talking to Jeremiah in Jeremiah's language, which I'm going to guess is Hebrew.
	But a lot of these scholars at that time were multilingual.
	And so, I don't know, where did Jeremiah grow up?
	Let me look that up.
	Okay, it says here that Jeremiah grew up in the village of Anatoth, a few miles northeast of Jerusalem, in a priestly family.
	Okay, so I'm pretty sure that means he spoke and wrote Hebrew.
	All right, correct me if I'm wrong on that, but I think that's the case.
	Okay, back to the Word of God.
	Consider and call for the mourning women that they may come, and send for skillful wailing women that they may come.
	Let them make haste and take up a wailing for us, that our eyes may run with tears and our eyelids gush with water.
	Here's a lot of crying.
	For a voice of wailing is heard from Zion.
	How we are plundered.
	This is in quotes now.
	We are greatly ashamed because we have forsaken the land because we have been cast out of our dwellings.
	Yet hear the word of the Lord, O women, and let your ear receive the word of his mouth.
	Teach your daughters wailing and everyone her neighbor a lamentation.
	For death has come through our windows, has entered our palaces to kill off the children.
	No longer to be outside and the young men no longer on the streets.
	So basically, there's a lot of mourning over the collapse of the civilization because they have turned against God.
	And.
	Verse 22, speak, thus says the Lord, even the carcasses of men shall fall as refuse on the open field, like cuttings after the harvester, and no one shall gather them.
	In other words, there will be so many dead and they will be so worthless that it will just be like trash in a field.
	I mean, seriously, these are strong metaphors.
	Verse 23, thus says the Lord, let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, nor let the rich man glory in his riches.
	He's saying, you know, stop being so full of yourself, but let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows me.
	That I am the Lord, exercising loving kindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth.
	For in these I delight, says the Lord.
	So, this is the Lord dropping the hammer on the ancient Israelites here, saying...
	Stop being so full of yourself.
	If you want to worship something, worship me.
	Because I'm the reason you're here.
	I'm the one that provides for you.
	Verse 25. Now this is especially interesting to me because circumcision of course is one of the key rituals of obedience to God in the Old Testament.
	And yet, yet, what Christ taught in the New Testament was, and again, remember that the appearance of Christ in the New Testament is sort of this retry by God to take a new approach with humankind,
	but what Christ taught and what his disciples taught was that, oh, you don't need to do circumcision anymore because that's kind of a pointless ancient ritual that Not necessary anymore.
	But in the Old Testament, it was like, you know, your hearts are uncircumcised.
	It means in your heart, you're not even willing to be obedient to God at all.
	And I'm going to punish all of you, whether you're circumcised or not.
	I'm going to punish all these people for they all have uncircumcision in their hearts.
	So circumcision was obviously a very big deal to God in the Old Testament.
	What changed?
	What changed about that?
	Well, some interesting things.
	In the Old Testament, mass fornication was a real problem.
	It was one of the sins. And mass fornication also led to a large number of unplanned pregnancies.
	And then The moms of the time, you know, they didn't have like morning after pills, birth control.
	They didn't have abortion centers.
	And so what they did is they carried their babies to term and then they sacrificed their babies to Moloch.
	Now, circumcision, one of the physiological effects of it is it's supposed to reduce sexual pleasure and thereby reduce mass fornication and thereby reduce the number of unplanned pregnancies and thereby reduce the number of babies that one of the physiological effects of it is it's supposed to reduce sexual pleasure and thereby reduce So you can see kind of how it goes together in the Old Testament.
	God was basically saying, you know, you've got to stop being animals and just spending all day fornicating.
	It is mentioned again and again and again.
	And they weren't just fornicating in a normal heterosexual format.
	We're talking about all kinds of crazy sodomy and things that we would call entirely inappropriate sexual relationships, like adult-child relationships, all kinds of sins that are implied in the Old Testament. all kinds of sins that are implied in the Old
	Even things like human trafficking and pulling men out of their homes to rape them, to have other men rape them, like sodomizing rape of men and these kinds of things.
	So, you know, God obviously was not happy with all of that behavior, and the commandment of circumcision was really an obedience ritual to God that was also designed to cut down on mass fornication.
	Did it work? Well, clearly no.
	It did not work because all these mass fornicators kept turning against God anyway, circumcised or not.
	You know, they were still running around being highly immoral and unethical and promiscuous.
	But it's interesting that if we go into Jeremiah chapter 10, that he's warning the Jews to not be like the Gentiles.
	He's telling the Jews that you're better than these other people.
	You should be circumcised.
	And he even says, this is in chapter 10, verse 2, Do not learn the way of the Gentiles.
	Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven.
	For the Gentiles are dismayed at them.
	For the customs of the people are futile.
	For one cuts a tree from the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
	They decorate it with silver and gold.
	I mean, wow.
	He's talking about the false idols.
	And how the Gentiles would just create these false idols and they would decorate them and they'd have to carry them around.
	And they're inanimate objects.
	They cannot speak.
	He's like, stop worshipping these false idols.
	This is insane.
	These wooden statues.
	And so Jeremiah jumps in here.
	This is so fun to watch Jeremiah debate with God.
	This is great. Jeremiah is basically saying, yeah, they're morons, but...
	This is in verse 6. They can't compete with you,
	God, you know, Lord.
	These people are idiots.
	And he goes on. He says, And the nations will not be able to endure his indignation.
	So this is Jeremiah saying, despite all the craftsmanship of mankind, they're nothing compared to you, Lord.
	This is a really interesting conversation.
	In verse 11, he says, thus you shall say to them, this is Jeremiah saying, Telling God what to say to the Israelites that have turned against God, okay?
	So it's kind of hard to keep track of the quotes here.
	It says, Thus you shall say to them, quote, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under those heavens.
	In other words, your false gods that are not the creators, they're nothing.
	They're nothing. They're worthless.
	They're worthless. And I'm skipping ahead to verse 14, where Jeremiah is saying, Everyone is dull-hearted without knowledge.
	Every metalsmith is put to shame by an image, for his molded image is falsehood.
	You know, forming a metal sculpture is not the real thing, right?
	And there is no breath in them, says Jeremiah.
	There's no breath in them. They're not living.
	They are futile, a work of errors.
	In the time of their punishment, they shall perish.
	The portion of Jacob is not like them, for he is the maker of all things, and Israel is the tribe of his inheritance.
	The Lord of hosts is his name.
	See?
	So he's saying the Jews are the descendants of those who are in covenant with God.
	And others don't really count.
	I mean, basically this is Jeremiah saying, you know, God, you are all-powerful.
	And then there's a back and forth that goes on here, and mostly God throwing out a lot of threats.
	Behold, I will throw out at this time the inhabitants of the land, and will distress them, that they may find it so.
	And you've got verses like verse 21 here.
	This is all in chapter 10.
	Verse 21. For the shepherds have become dull-hearted and have not sought the Lord.
	Therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
	And I feel like God would add on here, and I'll give them all toe fungus.
	You know, it's like we're going to do everything bad to these people because they have turned away from God.
	And this goes on and on and on.
	And then Jeremiah makes a suggestion.
	He says, basically, that God should say the following.
	So next, in Jeremiah chapter 11, the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord.
	Okay, so this is the Lord speaking to Jeremiah.
	Hear the words of this covenant and speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and say to them, thus says the Lord God of Israel, cursed is the man who does not obey the words of this covenant, which I commanded your fathers in the day I brought them out of the land of Egypt from which I commanded your fathers in the day I brought them out of the land of Egypt from the iron furnace, you know, freed them from slavery, saying, obey my voice and
	So shall you be my people and I will be your God that I may establish the oath, which I have sworn to your fathers to give them a land flowing with milk and honey as it is this day.
	And I answered, this is Jeremiah, and I answered and said, so be it, Lord.
	Thank you.
	So this is kind of like the final threat from God saying, you know, go tell the people we had a deal.
	We made a covenant.
	I freed them from slavery in Egypt.
	I led them to the land of milk and honey.
	I gave them figs and cinnamon.
	It's like I gave them everything, the living waters, the food crops, everything.
	And they still turn against me.
	What is going on?
	So remind them of this covenant because they keep breaking it.
	This is why I always have to kind of laugh today when I hear people that right now, today, in 2024, they claim that, you know, well, God promised them this piece of geography because 2,600 years ago there was a covenant,
	or actually more than that, 3,500 years ago there was a covenant with Abraham, whatever year that was, In my mind, I'm like, how many hundreds of generations back was that broken?
	Because your ancestors broke that covenant over and over and over and over again.
	And if you don't believe me, read the Bible, because it's all right in there.
	Verse 6, Therefore,
	I will bring upon them all the words of this covenant, which I commanded them to do, but which they have not done.
	This is the equivalent in the legal world of an attorney writing a letter to another law office saying, hey, we had a contract and you need to abide by the terms of the original contract, so go back and read page 6, section B1A and make sure you do that.
	This is the God version of that.
	Like, we had a deal.
	We had a deal, and you've turned against it.
	So I'm just reminding you of the terms of our deal.
	In verse 9, And the Lord said to me, A conspiracy has been found among the men of Judah and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
	They have turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers who refused to hear my words.
	And they have gone after other gods to serve them.
	The house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant.
	See? This is what I'm talking about.
	I've talked about this in other sermons.
	They keep breaking the covenant.
	Therefore, thus says the Lord, Behold, I will surely bring calamity on them, which they will not be able to escape.
	And though they cry out to me, I will not listen to them.
	Then the cities of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem will go out and cry out to the gods to whom they offer incense.
	You know, the false gods, the wooden, the totem poles with silver on or whatever.
	But they will not save them at all in the time of their trouble because they're made of wood.
	Verse 13, for according to the number of your cities where your gods owe Judah and according to the number of the streets of Jerusalem, you have set up altars to that shameful thing, altars to burn incense to Baal, to Satan.
	It's like your city is filled with monuments to Satan.
	Does that sound familiar?
	What do you see in our world today?
	LGBT flags painted on the crosswalks of cities.
	Monuments to Satanism.
	Monuments to transgenderism and evil mutilations of children, which is exactly what happened in the Old Testament.
	They were mutilating children by sacrificing them to Moloch.
	Same thing. Really nothing has changed, has it?
	Verse 14, so do not pray for this people or lift up a cry or prayer for them, for I, this is the Lord, I will not hear them in the time that they cry out to me because of their trouble.
	He says, I will not hear them.
	In other words, if you do enough evil, you sacrifice enough children, you do enough abortions, God will not hear you.
	He says so.
	Verse 15. This is powerful.
	This is God really nailing it.
	What has my beloved to do in my house, having done lewd deeds with many?
	You know, again, all the mass fornication.
	And the holy flesh has passed from you.
	When you do evil, then you rejoice!
	Isn't that true about modern society?
	people do evil.
	How many young women celebrate having abortions?
	They wear t-shirts that say, like, I just had an abortion.
	It's so wonderful.
	We've even heard stories of biological men in our society that want to become women, that want to go transgender to become a woman, to get pregnant as a woman so they can have an abortion as a woman, and then celebrate themselves as the first transgender woman to have an abortion. and then celebrate themselves as the first transgender woman to
	That is some sick, demonic, that is some mass mental illness, some level of multi-layered wickedness that would have God flinging fireballs in the Old Testament.
	He says, when you do evil, then you rejoice.
	Yeah, we get it.
	We see it. We see it today.
	Verse 16, the Lord called your name, green olive tree, lovely and of good fruit, with the noise of a great tumult, and he has kindled fire on it, and its branches are broken.
	In other words, hey, God gave you everything.
	What did you do? You trashed it.
	You trashed it all. For the Lord of hosts who planted you has pronounced doom against you for the evil of the house of Israel.
	And the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense to Baal.
	This is God saying, like, I'm angry that you morons, I gave you everything.
	We had a deal.
	We had a covenant. What did you do?
	You worship Satan and sacrifice your babies.
	And you fornicated with everything in the town.
	Leave the donkeys and goats alone for God's sake.
	This is basically what God is saying.
	So, with this in mind, I want to ask you, what do you suppose is about to happen?
	You know, we can never know the timing of God's judgment, and arguably, maybe, since we're reading Old Testament God, maybe the Christ consciousness of God is going to have a very different reaction to the evil in our world today.
	Or maybe, We're about to go back to Old Testament God.
	But the evil that's being carried out in Western civilization today with mass abortions, mass deceit, mass perversions, the transgenderism, the transhumanism, the biological weapons designed to alter the God-given genetic code of humanity— The deception,
	the lies, the attacks on the church, the attacks on free speech, the attacks on Christ, the attacks on people who silently pray outside abortion centers, just in prayer.
	This level of wickedness will almost certainly earn some level of Of wrath from God.
	We can't know in advance what that's going to look like, but we have examples.
	Some of them I've just read for you.
	Pronounce doom against you for the evil of the house of Israel and the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me, the Lord, to anger.
	Well, what do you suppose is coming?
	Now, it's worth noting that modern-day Israel has also become an LGBT hub in the Middle East.
	So Tel Aviv has more, or at least it did before the current war, it had a lot more LGBT activity and transgenderism and exploitation of children and sodomizing activities and so on than any other city that I'm aware of in the Middle East,
	East, not that I would have a map of LGBT activity in the Middle East, but as you can imagine, you're not going to get that kind of activity in Iran or in Turkey or in Egypt or Lebanon or any other, or Iraq or other countries like that, and certainly or Iraq or other countries like that, and certainly not in Syria either.
	And I doubt in Jordan, but who knows?
	In Israel, that kind of activity is very common because it's very westernized.
	So there's a lot of abortions in Israel, a lot of abortions.
	And Israel today is a mostly secular nation.
	So almost no one in Israel, I mean population-wise, actually practices any worship of God.
	You know, there are groups that do.
	And there are different Orthodox Jewish groups that are very serious about their practice of religion and their dedication to God, but they are not even close to a substantial portion of the population.
	Most of Israel, as in most of the United States and most of Canada, most of the United Kingdom, most of the populations of Western cultures have turned against God.
	They do not read Scripture at all.
	They're not religious.
	They don't even believe in God for the most part.
	But they worship abortion.
	So they worship Baal.
	They offer incense to Baal, and they worship false idols like pop singers and so on.
	Well, these are the conditions that God had previously promised would earn his anger and his wrath and his total destruction of those civilizations.
	So, I believe that, of course, God has the power to do anything he wishes.
	And when he decides to stand in judgment against the evil of Western nations, if he follows an Old Testament model, that judgment will be absolutely devastating.
	He can completely destroy Western civilization should he choose to do so.
	If he instead takes the path of the New Testament and has more mercy and more forgiveness, well, what's going to be the result of that?
	The evil of the Western civilizations will still not recognize the existence of God.
	They won't give God credit for having mercy.
	They will still continue with their abortions.
	And, you know, with their deceit and with their child mutilations and with their transgenderism and all the evil things that they push.
	So I think that it would be wise for us to one day expect an Old Testament wrath of God response because I don't think a New Testament response is having any effect among those who are rooted in Satanism and evil.
	I think the devil laughs at kindness and I think the devil laughs at forgiveness.
	The devil laughs and just says, okay, great, so you're not going to do anything.
	We'll just continue our, you know, evil parade of mass abortion and exploiting children or whatever the Satanists are doing.
	In other words, old school God, wrath of God, is kind of the line in the sand that it's where God is putting his foot down and saying, enough is enough.
	Is that day coming for America?
	I don't know. But I wouldn't be surprised.
	God has done it before, again and again.
	And I can't think of any better example of pure demonic evil than what the Western civilization countries have become today.
	Steeped in evil.
	Celebrating evil.
	They celebrate it.
	Which, you know, God talked about here in Jeremiah.
	And it's sickening. They celebrate the murder of their own babies.
	That's a level of wickedness and sickness that is probably not going to be tolerated forever.
	But when that judgment day comes, I don't know.
	The only thing I do know for sure about that is it would be wise to be on the side of God when that day comes.
	We're all going to be judged for the lives that we have lived, for the decisions that we have made.
	Did you live in alignment with God's teachings?
	Did you have dignity for other human beings?
	Did you work to protect life?
	Did you speak the truth?
	Did you defend the innocent?
	Did you help the poor?
	You know, these are things that count.
	This is your spiritual equity, your spiritual assets with God.
	These are things that count for eternity.
	How are you doing?
	And if you've made mistakes in your life, because everybody has, all of humankind has made mistakes, have you asked God for forgiveness?
	Have you asked others for forgiveness?
	Have you taken steps to right the wrongs in your life?
	What have you done to set yourself on the right path?
	And how can you do better tomorrow?
	No matter where you are right now today, maybe you're not the best person that you want to be, and you have a plan for being a better person tomorrow or to be closer to God tomorrow.
	Well, make some progress on that plan, even a little bit, just a little bit each day.
	It puts you on the right track, and I do believe that God's worst wrath will be reserved for those who are the obvious satanic mass murderers and child destroyers and mutilators and deceivers and sodomizers and all of those people, and we know who those are, and I doubt any of those people are listening to this sermon, if some of those people are.
	You better get busy working on correcting some of that and begging God for forgiveness because you don't want him to show up when you're still stuck in that red zone of negative spiritual assets.
	But I would suspect most people listening to this are mostly good people.
	You probably lead an honest life.
	You probably help people around you.
	You probably work to uplift people, to spread the truth.
	And yes, you may not be perfect.
	You may make mistakes in judgment or in memory or in misexplaining things.
	I mean, you know, I've made mistakes in these sermons.
	I've mentioned some things incorrectly.
	You know, about which person was wearing the camel fur and so on.
	And it's okay.
	It's okay. It's human to do that.
	But where is your heart?
	Is your heart with God?
	Are you striving to take actions in alignment with what God expects of you?
	Are you working to be a better person each day?
	Are you speaking the truth?
	Do you exercise courage?
	Do you exercise faith?
	Do you deepen your relationship with God with each opportunity that you have?
	These are the things that count.
	So improve yourself each and every day so that Jeremiah would not weep for you because you're not among the sinister, the wicked, the deceitful.
	You're not among those groups.
	So, Jeremiah doesn't have to weep for you.
	God doesn't have to weep for you.
	God doesn't feel like he has to punish you, and you will not be put in the category of someone who made God angry.
	So, when God's wrath is unleashed against our society, whenever that day comes, pray to God that he spares those of us who have sought to fight against the evil and the Satanism and the demonic influence over our society.
	If you have fought against Satan and worked in favor of God, I believe that you shall be treated with God's mercy and with eternal love and kindness from our Creator because He recognizes the goodness in your heart.
	And that's the lesson from Jeremiah.
	We may live in a society surrounded by evil.
	We may have made mistakes ourselves.
	We may have tripped up on things.
	We may have even perhaps before we turned to God and spirituality, we may have been involved, especially in our younger years, right?
	We all were a little bit more crazy in our younger years.
	And I give thanks to God every day that Facebook did not exist when I was in high school.
	I'm glad that all of those activities are gone with the memories of the people I went to school with because what a curse to be a child today and have all of your childhood behaviors like forever imprinted on the world through your social media pages.
	Wouldn't that be a curse, right?
	Because everybody's a lot more crazy when they were in their younger years.
	Not that I did anything illegal, but I did rock a pretty well-developed mullet, okay?
	And I thank God that those photos have never emerged.
	But you get my point, okay?
	So we're all children of God.
	We can all do better each day.
	We are living in a society of great evil, but we can be good people inside that society.
	We can choose to not be swayed or controlled by that evil.
	We can choose to live a life in alignment with God.
	And that choice counts.
	You know, it's funny because the abortion advocates, they say they're pro-choice.
	Well, guess what?
	You can also be pro-choice to choose God.
	You see what I mean? You can make a spiritual choice that they themselves will not make.
	Their choice is to worship Balak.
	They sacrifice their children to Satan.
	And you know what? Some of those people, they grow up and they regret that, and they ask for forgiveness, and God forgives them.
	And that's one of the things that can happen to people in their younger years.
	A young mom may have endured an abortion.
	Thinking that it was the right thing at the time and then later on maybe regretted it, maybe asked for forgiveness.
	God grants that forgiveness.
	And that counts.
	That counts to admit your errors, to ask for forgiveness and to make amends.
	These things are spiritual currency.
	Much more precious than gold or silver or anything material in this world is the spiritual currency that you do take with you when you leave this realm.
	You know how they say you can't take it with you because they're talking about things like Bitcoin?
	There's no blockchain in heaven, by the way.
	No blockchain, no internet access, and you don't need passwords in heaven.
	You don't take any of that stuff with you.
	What do you take with you?
	You take your spiritual currency with you.
	And that is forever.
	So work to enhance your spiritual currency while you are here on earth in this life, which is itself a gift from God.
	And Jeremiah would never shed a tear for you.
	He would celebrate your life.
	He would celebrate your spirit.
	He would celebrate your heart.
	And so would the Lord.
	So God bless you all. Thank you for listening today.
	I'm Mike Adams of abundance.church.
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