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July 12, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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EXCLUSIVE: Ashton Forbes on the vanishing Malaysian Airlines MH370...

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	Welcome to today's cosmic interview here on BrightTown.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the health ranger, the founder of BrightTown.com.
	And today, this is going to blow your mind.
	It may feel like it's Twilight Zone time, but we've got some really interesting things to show you that may change your view of reality.
	And our special guest today is Ashton Forbes.
	And his username on Twitter is JustXAshton.
	And he is an expert in studying what happened to MH370. Which disappeared a few years ago over, I believe, the Indian Ocean or thereabouts, the Malaysian Airlines plane.
	And then some videos recently surfaced.
	One of them we're showing here.
	Actually, show my screen, folks.
	That are showing some very odd orbs orbiting a plane that appears to then suddenly vanish.
	So if you're thinking, whoa, what's going on?
	Well, our guest is going to help answer some of that.
	So welcome, Mr.
	Forbes, to the show today.
	It's an honor to have you on.
	Thanks, Mike.
	I'm looking forward to this interview, and thanks to your audience for listening and having an open mind today.
	Absolutely.
	Our audience is very high IQ and also open-minded, so it's the perfect venue for all of this.
	Now, walk us through this.
	I mean, give us a little bit of backstory here, too, because a lot of people may have forgotten what happened and it was never found and so on.
	Start from the beginning with this Malaysian Airlines flight.
	Yeah, and I am not traditionally an investigator, though I've become technically the lead investigator of MH370X, which is the organization that I started back in August of last year, in 2023, related to the missing flight and to those videos that you just showed right there, which it reemerged on social media.
	Those videos are confirmed to go back to 2014, just weeks after the plane disappeared at the latest.
	Now, this plane, MH370, is probably, if not the most mysterious, one of the most mysterious disappearances of a flight ever.
	Ten years ago, this plane takes off from Kuala Lumpur headed to Beijing, and about 40 minutes into the flight, it goes dark.
	And from that point forward, there was nothing but obfuscation in the media and from the officials about what had happened to this plane.
	We were eventually told days later that this plane didn't really disappear in the South China Sea where it went dark, and instead it flew back across Malaysia and then went into the Andaman Sea in the Straits of Malacca.
	And then we're told, actually at the same point where we see coordinates in the video on the right here, that's the satellite video, those are coordinates that indicate the Nicobar Islands, where the plane actually went.
	And that data was not publicly available, the raw telemetry data, the satellite pings that were released, until May 28th, 2014.
	That video on the right was published May 19th, 2014, which is nine days before that plane, before that data was made publicly available.
	Now, around March 13th, this plane disappears on March 8th in the morning hours, supposedly.
	March 13th, this idea gets floated that the plane went to the South Indian Ocean.
	Now, who floated the idea?
	United States Intelligence.
	They floated that to the media.
	Wait, they're saying that they think it crashed into the Indian Ocean?
	Well, that's what the claim is, that it ended in the South Indian Ocean.
	They were very standoffish about the wording that they used.
	The official report today, which is 10 years later, says that it's unknown what happened to the plane.
	All the narratives that people hear out there that they know about, like this pilot suicide myth and things like that, That all has basically been ruled out by the officials, by family members, by all the weight of the evidence.
	And so the narratives that are basically spread around are mostly not based in reality and definitely not based on the official report at all.
	Okay, one second.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but I want to cover some basics.
	How many passengers are on this plane again?
	239 people, which includes 12 crew members.
	Okay, so 239 people.
	Now...
	Is there any other record of, I mean, what kind of, was this a Boeing aircraft?
	Yeah, Boeing 777-200ER, I believe, is the exact frame of this plane.
	So this is a very large plane.
	This is a plane that's about the size of a city block but can hold up to 300 people.
	So has a Boeing 777 ever crashed and been unable to be located in the history of aviation?
	No.
	As far as I know, no.
	And you're kind of getting to the main point, which is that planes don't crash anywhere on the Earth, in the ocean, etc., without leaving a massive debris field.
	If this plane had actually crashed in the South Indian Ocean, like this narrative that they claim this plane flew to the South Indian Ocean, ran out of fuel, crashed in the ocean, it would have shattered into thousands of pieces of debris.
	Planes are built out of mostly plastics and light metals, and all the flotation devices, luggage, bodies would have all floated.
	In the ocean especially, stuff spreads out.
	And we have satellites that are covering the whole planet all the time.
	And even if they didn't happen to see the exact moment which it crashed, they would have found the giant debris field in under 24 hours for sure without any shadow of doubt.
	And if anyone doubts that, all you have to do is Google SIBRS, S-B-I-R-S, Space Base Infrared System by Lockheed Martin, Global Persistent Infrared Surveillance.
	Now, you just think about what those words mean, and if you look up our low-Earth orbit satellites that basically wrap around the Earth and they kind of move around the Earth, there's no spot on this planet that you can keep hidden from a giant debris field.
	Even the French expert that was on the...
	He lost his life on that Titan sub with like three or four other people.
	Yeah.
	He's actually on the record way back several years ago talking to CNN and said, if there's no debris field, you cannot say there was a crash.
	Simple as that.
	Because anybody who's logical, and this is why I wanted to talk to you.
	I read your article that you posted just a few days after the plane disappeared.
	Is anyone who's logical would know that unless you found a debris field, you don't have evidence of a plane crash.
	But the other theory is that it landed somewhere then.
	I'm a little fuzzy on this because it's been 10 years, but I remember some of the talk was that maybe it was a kidnapping and they landed the plane and kidnapped all the people on the plane or something like that, or killed them all.
	What about that theory?
	Yeah, I think that...
	Funny, I think that those theories have the most weight after what we see in the MH370 videos, which is we see these three orbs circle the plane, and then the plane just disappears in what appears to be a scientific wormhole, an endothermic event.
	I want to ask you about that, yeah.
	Some kind of teleportation.
	So the other theories that I would go with that fit the evidence, like if we look at all the evidence, this investigation...
	The only evidence this investigation has to throw out is the satellite pings after 1840 UTC in the Nicobar Islands.
	And it's funny because you look at those satellite pings from Immersat And there's five hours of data between the Nicobar Islands and the South Indian Ocean, and it amounts to 10 rows on an Excel spreadsheet.
	I've looked at the data myself, the raw data, that has very questionable chain of custody in terms of how it got released to the public.
	And it's just 10 rows of data on an Excel spreadsheet.
	I could fake that in five minutes.
	Wait, is this supposed to be the plane pinging its location to the satellites?
	Yeah, so the way that, I mean, and this is just, it's crazy that we have to go to some satellite pings to try to figure out where this plane went, when we know the United States government must know exactly what happened to this plane.
	We've got spy satellites everywhere.
	We've got over-the-horizon radar that can see for thousands of miles.
	We've got this SOSA system that heard that tiny Titan sub implode and pinpointed the location of it.
	To think that we don't know where this plane is is absurd.
	And instead, we had these Immersat pings, and they gave them to the independent group, which is independent investigators.
	They started their own little organization.
	They came up with a novel analysis, novel meaning never been used before, to try to, like, figure out what the time between the satellite ping and touching the plane was, to then figure out where these arcs were, where the plane might have been.
	And that's how they determined the seventh arc, which they searched and they found nothing.
	I mean, they found no black box.
	They didn't even find one piece of the plane down there.
	Which was clearly huge red flags.
	Like even Peter Waring, who is the Australian Navy, I don't know if he was like the lead search expert or whatever, but he was pretty high up there.
	He did an interview for the 10-year anniversary just a couple months ago.
	And he said, like, we started to wonder what was going on.
	Because anyone with any common sense is going to say, if this is where the plane crashed, we should be finding like massive amounts of debris.
	Absolutely.
	Or it would have washed up on somebody's beach somewhere around the Indian Ocean, right?
	But...
	So that's the rub.
	If I can address that real quick.
	Yeah, please.
	Because people are going to immediately say, well, A, the ocean's really big.
	And the big problem there is that this flight path has the plane running out of fuel.
	There's nowhere else for this plane to go.
	It didn't go to Antarctica.
	It can't get there.
	And then the other part of people says, well, what about the debris?
	I heard somebody found some debris.
	They found debris in Africa.
	And it wasn't the official search.
	The official search was searching in the South Indian Ocean.
	And if you look at the drift analysis and the ocean currents, All the debris should have washed ashore on Western Australia if that location was correct.
	It's actually physically impossible for basically every single piece of debris that they found to have washed ashore on Africa in the time period allotted.
	They can't even get there in two years of drifting from the location that we have.
	And they found this debris in like 14 to 16 months.
	And it was random people that found it.
	It's funny because, so you were saying, well, a lot of people say that this plane was flown somewhere, and all the conspiracy theories out there that say this plane was flown somewhere say it went to Diego Garcia's military base.
	If you look at Diego Garcia military base on the map and look at the ocean currents, all the debris that washes shore in Africa, much easier for it to get from Diego Garcia than from the supposed crash site.
	And it's actually like a perfect fit for that debris drifting into Africa.
	So it's pretty wild.
	So go ahead.
	Where's this Diego Garcia airfield that you're talking about?
	Yeah, so that's in the Maldives, and that is on the, what is it, British Islands, what's the full name of it, that we basically, the United States, have leased out since 1966 from the UK government, this little isle.
	We took these Chattanoogans, I think, or I don't know if Chattanoogans is the right word, I forget the exact name, but we basically displaced all the locals from It's actually pretty horrific.
	We killed all their pets, displaced them all, sent them to a different location, and then we took over this island and we built this massive military base on there.
	And the lease ran out in 2016, and it got approved for another 20 years, so it lasts now until 2036.
	And the interesting part about this base is that it had been denied that it was being used as a prisoner detention facility.
	But a FOIA request found out that it was a CIA black ops site in terms of hiding people.
	And right now, there's actually 61 migrants that were trying to get to Canada.
	I don't know how they were going to get to Canada from the Indian Ocean, but they had a boat issue and they washed ashore there in 2021.
	And they've been in detention at the University of the Military Base for the last three years.
	So we know that they have facilities to detain people.
	And actually, just a story came out today.
	I think.
	to go check out the detention facilities, and the United States government denied it.
	They won't let them go out there and check it out.
	And it's for, like, secrecy and security purposes as well.
	And it's also weird that they won't just release those 61 migrants.
	So this idea that, like, some people will say, well, I have talked to, like, military members that would say, I've been out there I say, well, there's nothing to hide there.
	Why are they not allowing the judiciary, the press, or anyone to go see this place?
	Why won't they release these migrants that they've had prisoner there for three years?
	Well, yeah, and maybe those military people haven't seen the parts that they're hiding.
	It's not like they gave them a full tour of all the underground stuff.
	Exactly.
	And that's the thing, too, is that if you look at Google Earth Pro, you can look back years back on Google Earth Pro, and what you find out is if you look prior to 2014 on the images there, you see all these giant military planes, jumbo jets all over the runway.
	Wow.
	And then after 2014, nothing.
	Sometimes there's like one tiny plane on there.
	And I found a bunch of dredging contracts and a contract for Lockheed Martin to upgrade the water and power on the site as well.
	tens of millions, if not up to over $100 million worth of contracts to black construction, which if you look this company up, you find out they specialize in very advanced construction projects that are out there.
	So I would say that, and I don't know for a fact, but there's got to be something underground going on in this base here.
	It wouldn't surprise me if they have an elevator where they can take planes underground or what have you, but either way, very anomalous base.
	They're building infrastructure for something, for a larger number of people.
	But let me ask you one more technical question, then I want to get to this Orb video.
	I mean, I'm trained as a pilot, and as a pilot, at least, I mean, I never flew over oceans, though, because I'm not suicidal in a Cessna.
	But we were always in controlled airspace, right?
	The FAA controls airspace.
	We were always within somebody's radar, you know, like some control tower always had us on their radar.
	What about this MH370? Wasn't it always in somebody's radar, or did it completely leave radar?
	Yeah, so just recently, just a few weeks ago, I looked back through, I think it was the 2019 Royal Aeronautical Society's presentation on the plane, and yes, this plane was within radar.
	So this is what's really weird about it.
	So they say the plane went dark at 1721 UTC. This is over the South China Sea.
	We were incorrectly searching there for several days, even though the Malaysian military knew this plane turned back west over the peninsula and went into the Andaman Sea and the Nicobar Islands.
	And then the day the plane disappeared, all the reports said Subang Air Traffic Control lost contact with the plane at 1840 UTC. So the whole world was trying to figure out, what do you mean you lost contact with it at 1840 UTC when you're saying the plane went dark at 1721 UTC? That's an hour and 20 minutes difference.
	So how could there be this discrepancy?
	That's why the whole world was so confused.
	And there should not have been this level of obfuscation.
	If this is a plane that has gone, you know, crashed or whatever, people may have been alive.
	They may have been in boats on the ocean.
	They may have been stuck on an island.
	You wouldn't have this level of obfuscation going on.
	In fact, the Rolls-Royce engine data as well should have been able to say with this plane, Rolls-Royce to this day has never released their engine data.
	They've never told the public anything about it.
	Now, a few days later, the Malaysian government changed the time that they lost contact with the plane from 1840 UTC, which is important because that's the location where the time we think the videos are happening in the Nicobar Islands at exactly around 1840.
	within a few minutes.
	That's how much we've been able to pinpoint based on this.
	They changed it to 1822 UTC. And they said this is when Malaysian military radar lost contact with the plane.
	This is roughly 300 or so miles away from where this turn into the South Indian Ocean supposedly happened, which we think that didn't happen.
	We think instead you see what you see in the videos.
	Now, this is interesting because that Royal Aeronautical Society presentation shows all the radars in the area.
	I went and looked at it.
	There's five radars that still would have tracked the plane after Malaysia technically lost contact with it from three different countries.
	Thailand had one in range.
	Indonesia had three in range.
	And India, which has bases in Karnikabar and Port Blair there, had a radar in range as well.
	All of them should have seen the plane.
	None of them have ever released any of their data.
	They never said anything about it.
	So not only do we know the United States government has to know what happened to this plane, there's three other governments that we know must have some information about this plane.
	It shouldn't be a question of, like, we have to look at some satellite pings to figure out where the plane went.
	Like, we know that it must have been seen on radars.
	So why are these countries being silent?
	So right away you can tell there must be a cover-up.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, clearly.
	I was just going to say that.
	I mean, so all these countries should have radar tracks.
	I mean, they all record all.
	All the radar events are recorded and archived.
	So they should have radar tracks, and then that radar track should end.
	You know, even if it crashed into the ocean, then the radar ends there because the plane drops below radar, obviously.
	Or if the plane vanishes, then the radar should end there as well.
	But you're saying that none of those countries have released those data, which means that somebody that is capable of intimidating multiple nations went to them and told them something so damn frightening that they fear for their lives if they release that data.
	That's the conclusion.
	And who has the power to do that?
	United States government.
	It's a very short list, honestly.
	It's a short list.
	That's right.
	China, Russia, United States, that's probably about it.
	And here, it gets better.
	There's probably three bases, at least two, maybe three bases, that should have had radar coverage of the plane from takeoff to crash.
	So in the South Indian Ocean, there's this little Cocoa Islands base down there that's right along the flight path, controlled by the United States government.
	I don't know how they wouldn't have seen it.
	But then you also have Diego Garcia and you have Pine Gap, two of the most secretive U.S. bases on the face of the planet.
	I mean, Pine Gap, it's been reported that the CIA basically got a prime minister booted out of office because he wanted to shut down Pine Gap.
	Both of these potentially have over-the-horizon radar networks, which you can see for thousands of miles.
	They bounce off the ionosphere, and that's how they can see further than line of sight.
	So to claim that we didn't see this plane and know exactly what happened to it is, in my opinion, compatibly absurd.
	Well, trying to get them to release any data on this is like trying to get the government to release data on the structural engineering of Building 7.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like you're never going to see any data from that.
	But let's go to this video now because it appears to show these three orbs circling...
	This, what appears to be a jet here, and then it vanishes.
	And we're about to show that right now.
	These three orbs.
	So it looks like, I mean, now, honestly, Ashton, the first time I saw this video, I thought, well, this is a very clever fake, but watch it.
	It's about to vanish here.
	The three orbs are circling, kind of perpendicular to the flight path.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	And then it's like, it's gone.
	But, I mean, it looks like a prank to me.
	So what do we know about this video, and why is this video being taken so seriously by many researchers?
	Yeah, when I first looked at it, too, I thought kind of the same thing.
	I didn't really even understand what I was looking at, for the most part.
	I actually saw that video on the left, the drone video, 10 years ago, back in the summer.
	Oh, you did?
	I didn't see it until just recently.
	I didn't even know this existed.
	Back then, I wouldn't have had any basis to understand what I was looking at.
	I remember seeing that video.
	And then just dismissing it and moving on with my life.
	I just had no concept of even what I was looking at.
	I didn't even know what drone videos looked like back then.
	I didn't know any idea about FLIR, forward-looking infrared, or anything like that.
	So I personally think that it's not even until 2024, maybe even beyond, where our conscience has risen to a point where we have enough basis to understand even what we're looking at, even as possible to be real.
	And there's these requirements that I talk about in order to even understand is that in 2017, we had those Navy drone videos, those UFO videos that were declassified by the Navy.
	Without that, people have no idea what FLIR is even capable of.
	Yeah, those are called the TikTok videos, right?
	Yeah, the TikTok, Gimbal, and the GoFast, I think were the three.
	And that's when I started to wake up to maybe there is some UFO or anomalous technology that's out there that we don't know about.
	Now, I believe that those orbs that we see are United States government technology.
	They're not aliens in those orbs.
	There's not humans in those orbs.
	And the reason is because we see them spinning around this plane and this pattern they're doing is a 120-degree zero-point sinusoidal pattern.
	This is actually consistent with a three-phase electrical engineering system.
	Interesting.
	And you start to realize right away there's a lot of purpose to what you see in those videos.
	So initially I looked at these videos and went, wow, that's crazy.
	And I went, can this possibly be real?
	I couldn't understand why there's coordinates, why there's a satellite designation in the bottom left of the satellite video, which was the video on the right, that says NRL-22.
	But I said, you know what, if these videos are somehow real, Then we should be able to look into the case of the missing plane and figure out if it lines up.
	The more I look at those videos, the more absolutely certain I am that they must be real.
	That must be what happened to the missing plane.
	So you're saying that some exotic, man-made, U.S. government secret technology caused the plane to vanish out of the sky?
	Yeah, if we just want to skip right to the end, the answer is we have gravity manipulation technology.
	We have space-time manipulation technology.
	They're all one and the same.
	And they're also tied to zero-point energy as well, which is what people would think of as free energy.
	I think that what we're looking at there in those orbs are like miniature cold fusion devices that I would classify as United States military hypersonic drones.
	They have the capability to achieve hypersonic speeds.
	They are producing and extracting energy from the environment.
	We see magnetic monopoles based on the heat signature that we see in the drone video where we see this extremely high amount of detail.
	The idea of magnetic monopoles wasn't even publicly available science until 2015 when the Alto University paper, which you guys can Google AALTO, Alto University Magnetic Monopole.
	You'll find that the Department of Energy recently posted an image that looks just like the heat signature of those orbs when talking about condensed plasma physics.
	um And so I think that the things that people need to understand to really understand this case and understand the science, plasma physics is far beyond what the public is aware of, and that's like cold fusion in general.
	And then the other one is semiconductors.
	Semiconductors, I mean, just look at NVIDIA's stock price over the last six months.
	It's tripled.
	Semiconductors are what leads to all advanced technology.
	Quantum computers, AI, they're what will allow for potentially gravity manipulation technology to take hold.
	Tiny microchips that use either semiconductors or in some cases superconductors.
	So what people need to get into their vocabulary is the idea of superconductivity.
	So hold on a second.
	Who is believed to have taken this video on the left?
	Because it's clearly filmed, as you said, through a thermal camera through another aircraft.
	Yeah, so the video on the right is a satellite video.
	I'll start with that one.
	That was the first one released here.
	And this is the one where you can see NRL-22.
	Now, this is a big clue.
	NRWL-22 is the first launch of the CIBR system, the space-based infrared constellation by Lockheed Martin.
	It's a constellation of satellites that are constantly scanning the world, and they're sending this data to ground-based computers.
	Why?
	So that somebody can log in and go, give me a playback of this particular location at this particular time, and then boom, it can render a 3D environment that you can play around with, look around with.
	That's what we think we're looking at here.
	We know the video on the right is a much larger field of view.
	And we know that because we can see the cursor come in from the top right, right there, and it actually goes off the screen to the bottom left.
	That means what we're looking at is a bigger field of view than what we're actually seeing right here.
	It turns out that cursor is at 24 frames per second.
	The background is six frames per second.
	The reason why it's six frames per second is because it's a large rendered field of view by a computer that's producing this very large field of view.
	It actually seems like the location where the cursor starts off at in the top right, it goes back to the top right at the very end.
	The person is most likely clicking press record, stop record there in the top right of the screen there as well, right off the field of view.
	The drone is actually cropped out.
	This video on the left is a drone.
	We believe it's MQ1C Gray Eagle.
	They have been in operation for several decades, I believe.
	They have the capability to have like signals intelligence payloads on them.
	And signals intelligence is how all these assets, the satellite, the drones, spy planes, they all communicate with one another.
	If you actually look up MQ1C Gray Eagle, the very, or if you look up SIGINT payload for signals intelligence, the very first hit you get when you look up SIGINT payload is an MQ1C Gray Eagle reference.
	If you look up MQ1C Gray Eagles and go to the images in Google search, you actually can find payloads where they have cameras right underneath the wings, just like this as well.
	A lot of people think they only have cameras underneath the chin of the drone, but those slots under the wings can be modified.
	You can pull out, you can put a missile on there, you can put a camera on there, whatever you want.
	The camera that we're seeing, we think, is a Westcam MX-25.
	We found basically everything about these.
	We even found military documents that basically talk about the capabilities, having all the multi-infused capabilities, multi-spectral cameras that we see with respect to that drone.
	With respect to the satellite stuff, we've seen a sentient program, which has been declassified.
	I even have a document to that.
	Well, no, I want to play something.
	Show my screen here.
	And something I'm just noticing for the first time that I want to ask you about.
	These orbs that you're calling high-tech drones, these are leaving their own trails of much cooler air.
	I'm glad you noticed that, because if you look closer, what you're going to find is they're not leaving the trails behind them.
	The trails are in front of them.
	Those are the geodesic.
	They're creating space in front of them.
	This is why they have zero inertia.
	There's another version that I have that's blue and black, which shows it much clearer.
	But if you just want to take my word for it, you can tell.
	A lot of people don't notice that right away.
	You think that those trails are behind them.
	What they're doing, this is some kind of warp drive.
	And warp drive doesn't necessarily mean that it's like Star Trek, like...
	Warp drive really means that you can create space in front of you, or you can either expand space or contract space.
	Right, so this is the propulsion system, because one of the things that I'm struck by here is that these orbs, you say they're circling the plane, but they also have to be...
	Propulsed forward to match the airspeed of the plane as they're maneuvering around it in this very particular pattern, this very geometric pattern, as you say.
	And it looks like one orb shows up first, right?
	And then the other two join it?
	And the first orb doesn't quite lock in right away.
	It's really interesting.
	It's almost like it gets around the side of it, does one loop, and then it gets around it and starts spinning around it.
	And the next two orbs immediately get into orientation.
	I see.
	It's almost like the triangle is already there before the orb even shows up.
	Don't they reverse their orbit here at one point?
	Kind of.
	It's hard to tell, but yes, it's like once they lock in, then they start their pattern, and you can tell they're doing something here.
	So when you map it out, it turns out they're doing a sphere formation around the plane, which now in retrospect seems very obvious.
	They're mapping the plane.
	They're trying to figure out how big the singularity needs to be to encompass the entire plane.
	And how do they control that singularity?
	Through Coulomb's law.
	So Coulomb's law would say that when charges converge, when the distance between charges reduces, then this charge force increases exponentially.
	Because in the equation, it's got R squared in the denominator, which R is the distance.
	And so when you have an R squared like that, that number gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
	The distance shrinks.
	Then what's going to happen to your force value?
	Increases exponentially.
	What happens with these orbs?
	When they converge at the last second onto the plane.
	And how do you control the size of the events?
	It depends on how fast they converge.
	The faster they can purge, the more force you're going to get.
	This is all truly fascinating, but I have so many questions.
	Assuming this video is legit, which of course my mind is still skeptical about it, but assuming it's legit, and the technology that these orbs are using to propel themselves by curving space-time, which as our audience knows, that takes a tremendous amount of energy to achieve that, but we'll talk about that later.
	It would mean that the plane wasn't destroyed or obliterated.
	It was just moved.
	The plane was sent somewhere else at the speed of light, perhaps, or some fraction of the speed of light.
	This rubber band equation thing I have here.
	This is my favorite example to give people because people wonder, how can we manipulate space-time?
	How can we manipulate gravity?
	You need to understand the scalar potential in Maxwell's equations.
	So Oliver Heaviside came in and reduced Maxwell's equations.
	Maxwell is basically the father of electrical engineering.
	And when Oliver Heaviside came in and reduced it, he took out the scalar potential.
	He says, well, we can't measure that, so we're just going to turn it to zero.
	And what I would say is what that's the equivalent of is if I take this rubber band and I pull on it equally on both sides, it doesn't go left or right.
	If I pull on it twice as hard equally on both sides, it still doesn't go left and right.
	But is there no difference?
	Is this exactly the same as this?
	If I pull on this 10 times as hard, this rubber band is eventually going to snap.
	And what does that mean?
	That means the more I pull on both sides equally, the more stress in the medium there is.
	So that's the scalar potential, the stress in the medium.
	Now, what is the stress in the medium of space-time itself?
	The answer is gravity.
	Gravity is the stress in the medium of space-time.
	So if you stress the medium of space-time, you're pulling on your rubber band.
	And then if you let go of one side, let's say this is your singularity, what happens?
	Now your thing is over here.
	But then the last question is, how do you determine where it goes?
	Now, you could use the right-hand rule, and you could say, okay, the orbs are spinning around the plane clockwise.
	This is clockwise to you guys.
	And then if we look at the plane and we say it's spinning clockwise, use that as our magnetic field vector and use the right-hand rule, then we're going to find out the plane should be getting pulled backwards as a vector of travel.
	And then the question is, well, how do you determine where it stops?
	And the answer is this sign right here.
	Four orbs.
	The reason why they call me Ashen Four Orbs isn't just that my name rhymes with four orbs, Ashen Four Orbs.
	It's that we think there's a fourth orb somewhere.
	So not only do you have those three orbs there, but you have your fourth orb somewhere over here.
	And so what do you do?
	You slingshot your plane, and you entangle those orbs, and that's how you determine where the plane stops, where the plane shows up.
	That's one way to do it.
	It may also just be kind of like a squeezing of space-time where it just kind of shoots out and it stops whenever that force essentially stops and runs out.
	I want to add, too, because I've covered faster-than-light technology, warp drives, and so on.
	The passengers in this plane would not have felt anything because you don't feel shifts in the bending of space-time.
	Just like if you leap off a tall building...
	Maybe you're a stockbroker.
	You leap off a tall building, you don't feel the pull of gravity.
	You feel weightless.
	You feel weightless because you're following the curvature of space-time as gravity has warped that field.
	You're just following that.
	So a very strong gravity field could curve you around something or even seemingly catapult you.
	You wouldn't feel a thing, right?
	That's the beauty of it.
	And that science isn't even public until 2020 and beyond.
	If you guys Google humanly traversable wormholes, you'll find three scientific papers in a popular mechanics article.
	I found them back in October because I thought wormholes were just made up.
	I found all three scientific papers.
	I read the scientific papers, not just the blurbs about them.
	But they argue that a human can survive a humanly traversable wormhole, that the gravitational force is not going to rip you to shreds.
	It's not like a black hole.
	There's a DIA paper, Defense Intelligence Agency paper, actually, that was declassified in 2016, that actually mentions the difference between a black hole and a wormhole is that a wormhole has no event horizon, which means that an event horizon in the black hole is a location where even light can't escape.
	It means there's no going back from that location.
	In a wormhole, you can.
	You're not going to get ripped to shreds.
	Then some of the other papers even argue you don't need exotic matter to produce a wormhole.
	And one of them said you can make a thin shell around an object, and then you could cause a whole object to go through your wormhole.
	And I think that's pretty relevant in the case of a plane potentially going through a wormhole.
	And funny enough, one of those humanly traversable wormhole papers was written by Juan Maldesina.
	So if people don't know him, they probably should, because I think he's going to probably be famous in the future.
	But he and Leonard Susskind have been promoting since 2013 this idea of ER equals EPR. ER is Einstein-Rosen, as in an Einstein-Rosen bridge, as in a wormhole.
	EPR is Einstein-Poldovsky-Rosen, as in quantum entanglement.
	And now this is essentially a unification theory, ER equals EPR. Quantum entanglement is equivalent to a wormhole.
	One is just quantum forces and the other one is a macroscopic type event.
	If we can find a way to couple these two concepts, now you have the capability of teleporting a person, as opposed to, with respect to quantum teleportation, Where we've been able to teleport groups of atoms.
	We've been able to now, they're working on near-perfect quantum teleportation of information at this point, which is going to potentially lead to faster communication capabilities.
	And then it's just a matter of scaling it up to allowing a person to go through it.
	I thought that quantum spin states of information, quantum teleportation, has already been demonstrated by various universities.
	At faster than speed of light.
	China has the public record for it, although if these videos are real, then China's public record is kind of not probably as impressive as what we secretly have.
	But yeah, there are records for the record of distance for teleporting quantum states.
	Right now, I think conventionally people would argue that you can't teleport information, but I would bet just about anything I have that we will easily be able to teleport information in the future as well.
	And then that's going to bring up the idea of, you know, is faster than like communication breaking causality?
	And there's already a version of double slit experiment that questions whether or not retro causality is possible, which is called the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment.
	If you guys Google it, you'll find a few videos of people saying, oh, this has been debunked.
	But basically what you're going to learn here in the future is a lot of stuff claims to be debunked that's actually real.
	That's just kind of the sad state of human nature in general.
	We're very cynical beings.
	And I looked at that experiment and it seems very obvious to me that there's clearly some form of retrocausal.
	You can infer the location of an entangled electron on one detector based on where in the future it hits on another detector.
	So technically to me, information is being sent from the future to the present.
	Which is a form of retrocausality.
	And that's why I think you hear a lot of these people, especially in the UFO realm, you hear this idea of could future humans be the explanation for non-human intelligence?
	And that's, I think, the reason why that idea gets floated, because they're aware that retrocausality is something that's a real concept.
	Well, let me ask you about something more in the present about this.
	If this was a strong bending of space-time that caused this aircraft to be teleported, let's say.
	We'll use the term.
	Then from my understanding of that, anytime you bend to space-time, you send out a wake.
	There's like a ripple effect that is sent out.
	And so if there were any, I mean, any aircraft nearby might have shown that they were pulling more Gs or fewer Gs just for a blip.
	Or if there were any laboratories, you know there are laboratories all over the world that measure the speed of light on a routine basis?
	And then they send in their results to I forgot what group, but in America it's the NIST. And then they kind of average those out and say, you know, this is the speed of light.
	Well, the speed of light changes when you have a gravity wave.
	And so if there were any labs running as this happened, they might have shown a blip of something if they were measuring that.
	I mean, there might be other pieces of evidence from this that could still be found that no one's thought of yet.
	Yeah, that's a good comment.
	The first one about the speed of light is very important.
	We think the speed of light is a constant, but that's because we're in all the same medium.
	It's the same reason why we don't experience time dilation.
	We're all on the same planet.
	But if I were to go to a planet that's much more massive than our planet, our time is not going to flow similarly.
	This is the twin paradox.
	This is the same problem with the speed of light.
	We think the speed of light is constant because we all experience it in the same medium.
	But speed of light can be slowed down.
	You change the medium, the medium is what?
	Space-time.
	I like to call it the space-time ether at this point.
	So light can be slowed down.
	We know that for a fact.
	And I would argue that in the actual ether, if you were to strip away all the matter away from the canvas of our reality, that the speed of light might be infinite, in fact.
	And I think that that's how a lot of this ends up becoming possible.
	With respect to detecting this, you have to realize that standard electromagnetic detectors are not going to be able to detect gravity waves.
	That's true, yeah.
	It's almost like the third branch of electromagnetism.
	And that's part of, with respect to the scalar potential, why we had to zero it out.
	Because standard electromagnetic detectors couldn't detect the scalar potential.
	That's why Oliver Heavisides zeroed it out.
	But things like LIGO, for example, that is one of your gravity wave detectors, right?
	The problem with LIGO is that LIGO is detecting low-frequency gravitational waves, which are waves with long wavelengths, which are generally produced by very large interstellar objects like neutron stars colliding.
	What we're looking for here and what labs can generate are high-frequency gravitational waves.
	That means their wavelength is much shorter, their frequency is much higher, potentially as high as the microwave frequencies are higher, which is like, I think, over a gigahertz, something like that.
	That's really interesting.
	But let me just add that for people in the audience who are saying that you can't slow down or speed up light by changing gravity, even in mainstream astrophysics, you have lensing effects from planets and stars.
	So how does a lensing effect work?
	Well, it bends the light around the gravity pull of the planet.
	And how is that happening?
	It's slowing down part of the light because it's in the gravity well of that planet.
	So You couldn't have lensing effects unless gravity was altering the speed and direction of light.
	I mean, so this is mainstream physics, actually, that part of it.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but...
	Yeah, people can Google it, and they're going to find out that we've actually developed materials that can literally stop the speed of light in the material as well.
	So, I mean, at this point, we're starting to catch up with the idea of we can slow down the speed of light.
	People have argued that plasma can slow down the speed of light, the superconductivity...
	Can slow down the speed of light as well.
	So there's several different ways it can be pulled off.
	I'm glad that you brought the lensing effect because in the drone video, right before this cold endothermic event starts, in the very final frame, the plane blurs and it shrinks a little bit and the orbs go perfectly flat all around the plane.
	Really?
	Just like if there's a lensing effect happening from a star behind a black hole where it comes across the sides of the black hole and then you're looking at it.
	And funny enough, one of those DIA papers actually mentions the idea of a lensing effect.
	So if you don't know what I'm talking about, the DIA papers, I mean, all of this science is out there.
	That's what I never would have expected in a million years when I started digging into it.
	That's the reason why I've started to look into electrical engineering physics a lot more since November of last year.
	They're called the DIRDS, the Defense Intelligence Research Reference Documents.
	You can look those up.
	I've been posting them on my Twitter pretty frequently.
	One of them is called Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy.
	I mean, that one, like, sorry, what?
	And this was written in 2010 and declassified around 2016, 2017.
	The other one that I think is really important, there's like 40 of them.
	One's called extracting energy from the quantum vacuum, which to your point about the energy requirements, there's one way we can pull that off.
	And then the last one is warp drives, dark energy, and the manipulation of extra dimensions.
	So, with respect to the orbs, it's like being on a conveyor belt.
	You're moving when you're on the conveyor belt, but you're not physically moving.
	Exact same concept with the orbs.
	They're pulling space-time around them to pull themselves forward.
	This is how they can do these G-force type maneuvers that no human would be able to pull off.
	And I think quantum computers are probably how they're orienting that.
	It's either pre-programmed, or it's being run in real time by quantum computers, or some kind of massive supercomputer, or it's just some type of homing effect where it's locked into something on the plane.
	Okay, so many questions here.
	And I want to ask you this.
	Show my screen again, guys, because this frame shows what happens when the plane appears to vanish.
	I want to ask you about this, but according to what you're describing here, All the occupants of this plane could have very well survived whatever this is, and they could have been transported somewhere else.
	Now, obviously, if they were transported off-planet, that's probably not survivable to be in a vacuum of space very long in a Boeing 777, right?
	Yeah, so this is the other side of the story, which I think we discovered this probably end of October.
	Which is the fire event.
	What really happened to this plane?
	It was a lithium ion battery fire.
	How can I be so confident?
	There's 19 witnesses that corroborate it.
	This plane had 487 pounds of dangerous lithium ion batteries in the cargo bay.
	Two pallets of these batteries were stacked up in the forward cargo bay right next to the electronics bay.
	Which is the exact wrong spot to have a bunch of lithium ion batteries.
	Wait, you're talking about the Malaysia Airlines flight?
	Same plane.
	Same plane.
	So why did this plane go dark?
	The orbs are not around this plane when the plane went dark.
	It's an hour and 20 minutes later.
	So this plane went dark because those batteries ignited, potentially exploded.
	They might have damaged the electronics bay.
	In fact, there's a Wired article that people can find that argues that an electrical fire is the most likely cause of what happened to the plane.
	And it's from a pilot who just looked at the flight path and said, this guy is going back to Penang.
	This had to be an emergency event.
	Everything that happened is perfectly consistent with the landing gear being damaged because it was very hot that night and maybe starting on fire.
	And this is why they didn't land in Penang and why a plane disappeared.
	The only reason why this scenario has been discounted is because all these experts think the plane went in the South Indian Ocean.
	And they say the plane couldn't last that long if it was on fire, even with a fire in the cargo bay that's made to withstand the fire and has these automatic fire suppression devices.
	Well then why would the orbs be involved in this if it was a fire?
	Exactly.
	There's two main ideas here.
	And I can't say which one's the best, but I'll tell you which one I prefer.
	One is the accidental event.
	The batteries start on fire.
	Lithium ion batteries have been banned in the cargo bay of passenger planes since 2015, like right after this happened.
	You'll find a bunch of cases where these batteries burnt up huge airplanes before that.
	And then we found out how dangerous they were.
	In fact, even after they're banned right now, there's 74 incidents per year of battery incidents in the actual passenger area.
	This is why every time you check a bag, they ask if there's lithium ion batteries.
	You guys can just check out the FAA's website on the lithium ion battery stats to double check this.
	Now, if those batteries started on fire accidentally, and Mike McKay sees this plane when the batteries first ignite, he sees a fire on the plane.
	It gets reported as a plane crash, but he says, no, I just saw fire for a few seconds.
	Plane turns around, goes to Penang.
	Can't land for whatever reason.
	Maybe the landing gear's damaged.
	Maybe it's overweight.
	Maybe they couldn't dump the fuel because of the fire.
	We don't know.
	Now it's headed to the Nicobar Islands.
	It's headed to the Andaman Sea.
	What's going on there?
	Well, the Cobra Gold and Cope Tiger exercises are going on between Thailand and the United States government.
	We potentially have our most powerful asset sitting right there in that location, which is another reason why there's no chance we don't know what happened to this plane.
	You think that a rogue Boeing 777 is flying past our military exercises and we're not tracking it?
	No chance.
	So there's two theories.
	One, we were trying to rescue this plane.
	There's some high-value occupants on board.
	We've got one hour and 20 minutes from the plane going dark.
	This plane is doomed because it couldn't land to Penang.
	We don't know why, but if you can't land to Penang, you try to land a Boeing 777 in the ocean, you're not going to be able to pull off a Sully Sully inverter.
	This is not the Hudson River.
	The moment that plane hits the water, it's going to rip into a million pieces.
	It's pitch black outside.
	The ocean is very volatile.
	Also, another tiny fact that I don't really point out that much is that a lot of mainland Chinese, which is most of the people on board this plane, they don't learn how to swim.
	It's not a very common thing that you learn in China.
	I just know that because I lived in Singapore for several years and went to school with a bunch of Chinese kids.
	So this plane was probably doomed.
	And at that point, there's a judgment call for what the pilot's going to do.
	I would argue that there are communications that have been classified that we don't know about, and that the final communication of goodnight MH370 was not the final one.
	This is how the Malaysian government knew that the plane was not hostile.
	The Malaysian Minister of Defense admits they knew it was a commercial airliner, they knew it wasn't hostile just from military radar, But that's not possible.
	How would you know it's not a hijacking scenario?
	The only way you can know is you have communication with the plane.
	That's the only possible way.
	So either they try to rescue it, or the other option is this was planned from the get-go, that that fire was not accidental, that the United States government potentially set the batteries on the plane, set the batteries to ignite at that specific location, knowing the plane would turn back around, and then either some people argue they can remote control these aircrafts, And remote controlled it to the rendezvous point or they communicated with it and said, hey, go to this rendezvous point.
	We'll save you when you try to land here in the ocean.
	And then they broke out the orbs and then they teleported the plane.
	The last thing I'll say is that why would you teleport a plane?
	Well, that's my next question is to what end?
	Why would you break out this exotic technology to deal with a relatively common aircraft with common people and common cargo, etc.?
	What's special about this?
	There is something special about it, but what I would say is, why cover up this event?
	If this was a fire event, it's a very mundane event, relatively speaking, to some orbs, right?
	So the answer is, those videos are the only reason why you would cover up an event like this.
	And then the question is, why would you teleport a plane?
	Why not just destroy it?
	There's easier ways to destroy it as well.
	You can just shoot a missile at it if you want to destroy it.
	You only teleport a plane to hide it.
	In my opinion, that's the only reason.
	Why have the plane even turn around?
	Well, where was the plane before?
	It was in the South China Sea.
	It was next to China.
	So why are you having the plane fly away from China?
	You don't want China to see.
	China hacked the Malaysian government the next day, the very next day with a sophisticated social engineering hack.
	They said, we found some debris.
	Click on this.
	Somebody clicked on it.
	They stole classified information about the plane and crisis meeting minute notes.
	Why would they want to steal that information?
	Oh, the answer is pretty clear.
	They know the plane didn't crash, and they know somebody took it, and they know it wasn't them.
	They're trying to figure out what happened to it.
	And the answer is the United States government took the plane.
	They're the ones who teleported the plane away.
	So why?
	There's 20 freescale semiconductor engineers on board this plane.
	Remember I said the two things that you need to know about this technology?
	Plasma physics and semiconductors.
	Freescale semiconductors had just released a microchip It was smaller than the dimple in a golf ball right before this.
	They had just signed the year before a contract with the United States Aerospace and Defense to serve their RF power needs, which is radio frequency power needs.
	You can actually argue that radio frequencies and radars are just the cousin of scalar technology when it comes to gravity manipulation as well.
	The last thing we found, which I would never have expected, 2005 National Security Agency report.
	Superconductive microchip assessment.
	Superconductive microchips.
	I've been sitting here talking about superconductivity as one of the ways where you can pull off gravity manipulation.
	And then we find this report about superconductive microchips and freescale semiconductors is listed in the report nine different times.
	It's practically about them.
	And it says that this technology could become available by 2010 or 2012, but only if the U.S. government invests in it.
	So you look at this and you go, well, 12 of these employees were Malaysian nationals.
	Eight of them were Chinese nationals.
	They worked for the American company, Freescale Semiconductors.
	You know what the number one target of espionage and intellectual property theft is?
	Foreign nationals that work for American companies.
	China steals $600 billion worth of intellectual property every year.
	So you could argue that this is a situation where it's counter espionage.
	We're preventing these people from going to China.
	Maybe China's got something on them.
	Maybe they're defecting to China.
	Maybe China's planning to steal the intellectual property.
	Maybe they developed some kind of super advanced microchip related to technology we see in those videos.
	And China wanted it.
	And this is us saying, yeah, right, you're not going to get it in the most spectacular way possible.
	And that serves a double purpose.
	It's a message to our adversaries.
	We can disappear a Boeing 777 midair And we can have the media just lie to the whole world about it and convince the whole world that this plane crashed into the ocean without leaving a debris field.
	Nobody will ever second guess it.
	If you're China or Russia, what do you do in that situation?
	Do you call them out?
	You say, hey, United States, warp the plane away with some orbs.
	Yeah, right.
	Our media apparatus is going to jump around and say, oh, this is all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation, right?
	And everybody's going to eat it up.
	But this brings up, yeah, so many questions from this.
	One of them is, if this technology does exist in the hands of the U.S. government, then clearly there are many other uses for this.
	They could cause potentially Chinese ships to vanish or Chinese satellites.
	I mean, if you could teleport objects to who knows where, how far away...
	You could just send all the satellites far out of orbit or send them into the middle of the Earth or what have you.
	I mean, it's almost like having a superpower, right?
	Oh, I mean, whoever has this technology has supreme military supremacy.
	Imagine how the type of air superiority that we have right now.
	Well, this is space superiority.
	This is space-time superiority.
	Exactly.
	And this is the reason why you pull this maneuver off.
	I would even argue that if the public were made aware of this, and I think Barack Obama's implicated, I don't know if he planned the operation, but he had to be briefed about it after the fact.
	He went and visited the Malaysian prime minister the next month.
	It's pretty damn weird.
	It's the first time any president had visited the Malaysian in over 50 years.
	Yeah.
	I would argue if this came out, most Americans would say it's justified, even though it's horrific.
	Because we'd say, if this means that we have this technology and we're safe and China doesn't have it and Russia doesn't have it, Then I think most people would say that's a justified reason.
	I mean, it's scary to think of that, but then you realize, like, why we would pull something like this off, because we're trying to prevent them from having that.
	And here's the other thing I want to say about what this technology can do.
	It's not just teleportation.
	The reason why we've been hiding this technology is a Pandora's box.
	You also have the capability of cloaking objects with this kind of technology.
	You can actually make like portable fusion power with this.
	You can have straight up free energy, just extracting energy from the environment with the technology.
	And that may be the biggest one.
	But I would also say is that you can create weapons of mass destruction that are beyond our comprehension.
	I mean, we're not talking nuclear weapons anymore.
	No, we're talking nuclear weapons.
	Anti-matter bombs.
	We're talking about creating a black hole.
	We're talking about, not like CERN, I'm afraid that they're going to collide two particles together and create a black hole.
	We're talking about create a black hole that destroys the sun.
	That's the kind of stuff.
	Press a button, our planet is no longer here anymore.
	That's the kind of technology we're dealing with here.
	And the ability to amplify...
	If you can control the distance of the teleportation and the direction and the distance, then obviously you teleport a nuke right into the Kremlin.
	People say that a lot.
	That's a very good point, yes.
	Yeah, right.
	I mean, but I would argue today the United States government, they're not the good guys, Ashton.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, nobody's the good guys right now on the planet except the people, but I would argue that The governments of our world are, especially the U.S. government right now, is a bunch of warmongering insane psychopaths.
	They're not thinking rationally.
	They're not behaving rationally.
	If anybody's brain has been teleported, it's Joe Biden's.
	His brain got teleported somewhere deep, buried in the swamp somewhere.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And this is a very destabilizing, if this is real, it's the most destabilizing, most dangerous technology, most asymmetric warfare technology in the history of the world.
	And it's in the hands of a country that has weaponized everything against the rest of the world, including weaponizing the dollar.
	The United States dropped atomic bombs on civilian populations in Japan.
	The United States blew up the Nord Stream pipelines, which has destroyed Germany's economy.
	I don't know if you agree with me on all these points, but this is dangerous.
	I do.
	And I would argue that if we had not dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we probably wouldn't even know about atomic bombs today.
	Why would they tell us about it?
	I think the only reason why it was even public is because we dropped the bombs.
	Because they couldn't deny it.
	Yeah, because you can't deny it.
	I would even argue that this technology might go back to the Manhattan Project.
	I like to say it's like two sides of a coin, atomic weapons and scalar weapons.
	It's like they showed us this half of the coin, but they never showed us this half of the coin.
	Right.
	This goes all the way back to the Philadelphia experiment.
	I think that was 1943.
	That was potentially the first time.
	I mean, you look at the people who are connected to that experiment.
	It's like Einstein, Tesla, Thomas Townsend, Brown.
	You've got some of the biggest names in the game connected to this experiment.
	Yeah, it does have a lot of similarities.
	But I think in the Philadelphia experiment, they couldn't control where the teleportation ended up, right?
	Well, because the issue was they were trying to cloak the battlecruiser.
	And instead, when they cloaked the battlecruiser, they had a side effect happen.
	They accidentally bent spacetime itself.
	And I think that's potentially when we really figured out what we were capable of.
	But it wasn't probably until the early 2000s where the technology really started to take off.
	And why?
	Because of the orbs.
	Look at the orbs spinning around the plane.
	Quantum computers.
	Because now you're not limited to human reaction speed and human capabilities.
	Now you can have computers running this stuff.
	And now the technology just starts to take off.
	Because they can process things much faster, much quicker than humans can process.
	Yes, yes.
	But to tie up the loose end here of where this plane went...
	Is it your contention this plane went into high orbit somewhere and then burned up in reentry or got flung into outer space somewhere?
	No, I don't think this plane went to the moon.
	I don't think it went to the Andromeda galaxy.
	I don't think it went to a bizarro dimension or anything like that.
	In fact, I do think that there's an extra dimension that we don't perceive, but I think it's like...
	like a half extra dimension it's not a dimension where there's a bizarro evil ashton with a mustache or anything like that it's really like a shortcut between any two points in space and time because all points in space and time are actually connected in my opinion the only way this is even possible is if the holographic principle is true and that what appears like distance to us is just because our reality is a higher dimensional projection onto a lower state essentially um
	and if you use the right hand rule in physics we were able to map based on the coordinates in the satellite video that this plane is going south and then to the east in the video it Well, I guess to you guys it's this direction.
	So if this plane is going backwards based on the right-hand rule, and this is actually confirmed also by when you see that endothermic event that you were showing earlier, you can see the tail of the plane sticking out of that.
	Yeah, I did notice that.
	Yeah, some kind of weird inversion of the tail of the plane.
	Well, it's a little bit further back than where the plane was in the frame before that, which would indicate this plane is getting sucked backwards.
	And so if you use the right-hand rule and you determine this plane is getting sucked backwards and the plane is going to the east, that means the plane should end up somewhere to the west.
	Well, what is west of the Nicobar Islands if everybody pulls up their maps right now?
	Well, the Maldives are.
	Well, what's interesting about that?
	That a fire suppression bottle from a Boeing 777 washes ashore in the Maldives around March 26, 2014, just a couple weeks after the plane disappeared.
	At least that's when it was found.
	It gets reported on as a bomb.
	The Maldives gets intentionally excluded from the search, even though it's in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
	Why?
	Because they don't want people going and talking to the people that were there.
	So this guy Sergio went out there, also Florence de Changi did, And 20 islanders on a small island out there, Kudohuduvo I think it's called, all saw the plane in the early morning hours.
	They saw the red and white stripe of Malaysian Airlines.
	They saw it flying low.
	One woman says she saw steam coming out of the back of it, which in both videos we can see the smoke coming out of the back of the plane.
	It can't be contrails because those clouds we see in the videos are cumulus clouds.
	They only form at low altitudes.
	So you've got 20 islanders on a tiny island of 3,000 people that don't see jumbo jets ever, seeing a Malaysian Airlines flight flying from the west to the south.
	Now, the reason why these islanders were dismissed is because they thought there's no way the plane could be coming from the west.
	It should have been coming from the east.
	But if we go back to what we see in those videos, and that's real, we see this teleportation event happening here.
	Now we have a situation where this plane can show up somewhere to the west in the air and continue flying, and then it flies south.
	South where?
	Diego Garcia is just south of that island, about 100 miles, maybe 200 miles at the most.
	So wait, so you think it got teleported and then continued its flight and then landed?
	I don't have two videos on the other side, so this is obviously speculative to some degree, but that's what I think happened because I think this technology seems magical to us, but it's just the beginning.
	This is the thing that's crazy about it.
	It's not the kind of thing where you figure this out and now you've got the perfect technology.
	You can keep advancing and getting it better and better and better and better.
	I think the technology version that we're looking at in those videos is one of the first times we were ever able to teleport something like an aircraft from one location to the other.
	And if you do have to have a fourth orb, again, showing this right here, then you are kind of limited, potentially, on where your object goes.
	And so I would argue that while, in theory, if we were to advance this technology, you could teleport an object that's moving at a high rate of speed and then set it down immediately at its receiving location, that this version of technology, the plane's going to come out at the exact same speed that it was going in.
	And in that case, you can't have it just show up in an underground bunker.
	It's going to crash into the wall.
	You need to have this thing flying somewhere.
	So I think it showed up in the Maldives.
	And the weird part, too, is that a lot of this requires something called superposition, which is this idea that the plane could actually disappear at one point and then show up in, like, the future.
	Now, I don't think it shows up 10 years in the future.
	Like, what does that show manifest or whatever it's called?
	Everybody brings that up.
	But I do think it's possible this plane showed up a few hours later, minutes later, or something like that.
	And then that can explain why the passengers potentially saw it.
	It could also have teleported somewhere to the Maldives, landed, refueled, took off again.
	But what about all the passengers?
	Yeah.
	So that's the thing.
	So if there's a fire event, I think that a lot of these people died.
	There was just a lithium-ion battery fire at a factory in South Korea like two weeks ago.
	22 people died.
	And you ask yourself, how are 22 people dying in a lithium-ion battery fire?
	So I read about it.
	Two inhalations of the smoke and you're out.
	That's it.
	That's how quick it is.
	That's how toxic the smoke is.
	Oh my gosh.
	So if this smoke is in the forward cargo bay, it's going to start seeping through the air conditioning system.
	In fact, you might not even know because it's going through the air conditioning system and coming down through those vents they have in the airplanes.
	Yeah.
	If you're sitting there and you're thinking that your oxygen mask is going to protect you, And it doesn't, boom, you're out and you're not waking up ever again.
	So I would even argue there's...
	The cargo space isn't...
	That air is not shared with the passenger air, is it?
	And the cargo space, is it pressurized?
	Yeah, I guess it has to be pressurized.
	Yeah, I talked to some pilots and they said that basically if it happened in the forward cargo bay, that it could wrap around through the air conditioning system.
	We see this smoke coming out of the back of the plane in both videos, and in the drone video, when it zooms in really close, you see this heat signature in the belly of the plane.
	There's actually two AC exhaust ports right next to the landing gear on either side of the bottom of the plane.
	So I would speculate that the hot smoke is coming out of the AC exhaust ports, wrapping around the hull of the plane, and this is what makes it look like contrails.
	It's not coming from the engines.
	And if that's going out through the plane, the problem is that you've got an hour and 20 minutes from when the plane goes dark where this battery fire begins and when we see this warping thing happen.
	So I think it's possible some people survived.
	But I think that a significant percentage of people did not survive, even to the point where we see these videos happen.
	And that's another reason for the cover-up, is that either things didn't go necessarily according to plan.
	Like some people died that probably they weren't trying to have die.
	Maybe they were trying to retain those engineers.
	But this is probably part of the reason why, you know, some of the passengers were never returned.
	If people did live, I think there's three possibilities.
	Either way, they become wards of the state.
	So either you send them back to China under some arrangement where China's going to make sure they never speak again.
	You put them into witness protection in the United States, which may have happened to Philip Wood if he survived, the American passenger.
	And then they can never talk to their families ever again or anybody ever again.
	And then the third option is they live out the rest of their life on Diego Garcia.
	So there's actually more evidence somehow.
	I can't believe how much evidence there is.
	But two pieces that I'll point out here is that there's a Philip Wood access data picture.
	I just posted about this on Twitter, actually, just a few hours ago.
	And on March 19th, I believe it was, or somewhere right around there, a post gets posted on 4chan.
	Weird website to have a post.
	And it's a black picture with a message basically saying that, In fact, I'll just read it real quick for you guys.
	It says, I've been held hostage by unknown military personnel after my flight was hijacked, blindfolded, in parentheses.
	I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cell phone in my ass during the hijack.
	I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell.
	My name is Philip Wood.
	I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly.
	It's kind of hard to rationalize exactly why this person would not reach out to their family members if they were able to get an internet connection or whatever it took to get that message out.
	I think that the fact that they chose 4chan after stuff like the Twitter files actually makes a lot of sense.
	But the idea of, like, why did they not contact somebody?
	Maybe they did.
	We don't know.
	Maybe it wasn't their phone.
	Maybe it was somebody else's phone.
	We're not sure.
	But the black picture that came along with this, people looked at the EXIF data right away.
	In fact, I posted the image from 4chan where, like, the third message says, pull the EXIF data.
	The next message says he was on that Malaysian flight that went missing.
	And then the message right after that says, British Island Ocean Territory, Diego Garcia Airport.
	And if you look at it, it's like right in the middle of the Diego Garcia military base is where the coordinates in the EXIF data point that picture to as well.
	People tried to debunk this picture.
	Actually, the same debunkers that are now trying to debunk the MH370 videos 10 years ago tried to debunk this picture.
	And I looked through their analysis and I found forensic analysis that shows that every single argument that they made that was a factual argument was false.
	That the picture is consistent with a real iPhone 5 picture from Picasso.
	There's no issue with the latitude and longitude.
	It doesn't need to have a Z axis.
	There's no issue with the claim that there should be altitude connected to it, which is pretty suspicious that people were trying to debunk this picture that hard 10 years ago.
	We don't have to assume it's necessarily true, but it's a point of evidence that does point to this military base and people potentially being there.
	Okay, let me ask you for a favor then.
	After this show, I'll get you my contact information.
	I'd like you to send me the best quality video or multiple videos that you have.
	And the reason I say that, maybe you've already done this, but let me show something.
	Guys, show camera six for our studio here.
	So this video wall behind me, this loop is an AI-enhanced, upscaled, frame-interpolated loop.
	And so what we do is we use AI software to create new frames and new resolution that did not exist before.
	I'm sure you're familiar with this technology.
	It's becoming more common.
	But that's how we get such a smooth flow at such a high resolution of what would otherwise be really jumpy and kind of staticky, right?
	Or staccato.
	Has anybody done that to the videos related to this airplane?
	To really enhance and upscale?
	As far as we know, no, that's not happened.
	Although there's been several people that have tried to debunk the videos in general, and one of them is some pictures of some clouds that is on a website that has some pretty questionable fidelity related to it.
	And we've argued that those images could easily have been planted by the U.S. government on the Internet from the original satellite footage that it came from.
	to create a few images from that and then inject them onto the internet.
	And you put them on the internet.
	Why?
	Because if somebody like me ever shows up, you want to have some way to try to debunk these videos or to have people claim that they're not real.
	That's exactly, of course, what happened.
	Okay.
	And so if people don't want to believe the videos are real, that's totally fine.
	But the science is absolutely right.
	I mean, I know that the science is real for a fact at this point.
	Well, I mean, I still don't know where these videos came from.
	So, you know, I'm still skeptical about that, their origins, or who put them together, or who...
	Oh, let's talk about that real quick.
	Yeah.
	Because in October...
	We think, at least from the oldest version that we can find, a YouTube channel called Regicide Anon, which actually stands for Anonymous Kingkiller, is what that means.
	And there may be earlier versions that we can't tell.
	Even the Regicide Anon YouTube channel was wiped out.
	We were only able to find it on the Wayback Machine, on the Internet archives that are out there.
	And the first one, that satellite video, was uploaded May 19, 2014, which is eight days, like I said, before the raw telemetry data.
	The description says, received March 12, 2014.
	That's four days after the plane disappeared.
	And it says, source, protected.
	And it was posted on a random UFO video channel that has other very obvious fake videos, nothing like the authenticity and the information that goes along with these videos, which begs the question, how did this person get this video?
	And if they are not the person that faked this video, why does it say received March 12, 2014 on it?
	Because somebody potentially leaked it to them.
	So I was looking at these videos, I probably looked at these videos thousands of times now, but after I was a few hundred times into them in October, I went, whoa, I have a pretty good psychological profile for the person that took this video.
	I mean, when you look at the satellite video, one of the first things I noticed is it's not somebody with their camera recording a screen like this.
	You know, it's actually a screen recording of somebody who's actually logged into the spy satellite database, which means what if that's true?
	Oh, it means they got caught, 100%.
	If it's a Citrix session and they're remote terminaling into that database, there's going to be logs of it.
	They're going to get caught.
	When you look at the satellite video, they cropped out the drone.
	Why would you crop out the drone?
	Well, you're trying to protect the United States intelligence assets.
	There might be other assets that they cropped out as well.
	The French father on the Netflix documentary said, So, when you look at the drone video, You realize other information as well.
	And also in the satellite video, they put that satellite designation down there.
	They made sure we saw that.
	They also made sure we saw the coordinates.
	I mean, that's absolute proof right there.
	But that wasn't enough for people.
	So then the second video says receive June 5th, 2014.
	That's a few weeks after the first video was published.
	It says, published June 12th.
	So there's not a huge lag in the second video.
	They received it, they published it a week later.
	The first video, they receive it four days after the plane disappears, and they publish it 72 days after the plane disappears.
	Maybe they had to be convinced.
	Because a lot of people who look at a satellite video can't even tell what direction they're looking at.
	Most people think they're looking up in the satellite video.
	No, you're looking down.
	That's how little perspective we have.
	So if that person had to be convinced, then maybe somebody had to try to be convinced.
	People think you're looking up.
	Yeah, in the satellite video.
	A lot of people surprisingly think that.
	They think like you're looking up at the sky?
	Yeah, people really think that.
	Do they not know where satellites are?
	Well, a lot of people, we just have no concept of what satellite resolution.
	People don't even know satellite video is a possibility.
	People still think we're like enemy of the state.
	We're like looking straight down through satellites at the ground.
	We only have five optical telescopes left in outer space.
	All the rest of them are infrared and radar satellites.
	So how are we seeing stuff?
	The answer is we're sending it to ground-based computers and we're building a model of what the environment looks like with that.
	But I digress.
	In the drone video, they show us it in this thermal color that nobody's ever seen.
	There's no videos in this thermal.
	I mean, there are other ones that have this similar palette we found, so it is consistent with military footage.
	But all of the declassified footage, like those 2017 drone videos, or those FLIR videos, they're all in black and white.
	None of them are in blue like that.
	So why were they showing us that?
	Because they wanted us to see the intelligence related to the science.
	They wanted us to see that heat signature.
	They wanted us to see the event was a cold, black, endothermic event, not an explosion that would be white hot.
	It's black and white.
	Right, right.
	Good point.
	I mean, I wanted to talk to you about that explosion again.
	I've got the frame frozen right here.
	I mean, I shouldn't call it explosions, like you say.
	This is not releasing energy.
	It's actually super cooling the air around it.
	It's an absorption of energy.
	That's what an endothermic event is.
	And why is it white in the other one?
	Well, it's a completely different asset, meant for completely different purposes.
	SIBRS is meant for tracking objects.
	Now, and it's infrared.
	It's a false color infrared.
	Actually, these videos are happening at nighttime and near pitch black.
	Oh, okay.
	And this goes to show that, and we've proven, by the way, that we do have capability of doing night vision that makes it look just like daytime.
	Yeah, I mean, I've got a rifle scope that does all these different palettes.
	I can just flip through them.
	It's thermal, it's night vision, it's black and white, whatever.
	So anyway, I'll go back to the point, though, is that the drone video also removes all the HUD data.
	Why would you remove all the HUD data?
	If this is like a spy who stole this information, we're going to see everything, right?
	They're not going to remove all this particular data, crop out the drone.
	Somebody had to have had access to this.
	It had to be a U.S. military personnel.
	And it also had to be somebody that, in my opinion, they were a patriot.
	They thought they were doing the right thing.
	Otherwise, why do you go through all this effort to crop all this information out?
	And so I started digging through the internet.
	I would look for whoever was charged with willful attention of classified information, dissemination of classified information, or just straight up espionage.
	There's lists out there that you can go through the list.
	It took me like two weeks, actually.
	I started having new date range searches because Google is not very reliable these days.
	And then I found it.
	And it blew me away.
	Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Lynn.
	He is the guy.
	Every single box is checked by this guy.
	You guys go look up the articles about him.
	There's even one called the strange case of Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Lin.
	In my opinion, this guy is a hero.
	We trusted him with nukes.
	He was part of this VPU to secret spy plane program.
	He gets assigned to the program February 2014, right before the plane disappears.
	We have a quote from his lawyer claiming that the investigation into him began April 2nd, 2014, which is less than a month after the plane disappeared.
	Wow.
	So you think he's the one who leaked the satellite video?
	He had already had a pre-existing relationship with the FBI and NCIS. He was a Taiwanese naturalized American.
	It's basically speculated in some of the articles that he was basically a spy for us.
	And so he had Taiwanese contacts.
	And this is where they tried, like, the whole case against him is obfuscated and makes no sense.
	Like, they had this prostitution charge on there.
	They throw him, they try to get him in prison for life for espionage.
	But later on, they have to admit that there's no evidence of espionage or spying at all.
	No evidence to exchange any information with anyone from China at all.
	And you say, well, why would they go down on him?
	Why would they come down on him so hard if that's the case?
	And the answer is because he leaked these videos.
	He gave, potentially, let's just imagine he gave them to his Taiwanese counterparts.
	Because he was a guy that, he was a little too loose-lipped, let's say, according to when you read the case about him.
	But it's not the kind of situation where they have any hard evidence for why you should be going to prison for life unless those videos are real.
	Because if you're the United States government, those videos get out.
	And that was your counter espionage against China.
	You're freaking out.
	Right.
	And so, two more things I want to point out about this guy's case.
	Yeah, because we're way over time, Ashna.
	I apologize.
	So, one thing I want to point out is that he gets caught with flight manifests that include search and rescue code names.
	So, one of their search and rescue in that time frame was there.
	And the second one is his lawyer argued that the classified information in question, two counts of disseminating classified information, is available on the internet.
	We looked at the appeals.
	The charges are consistent with video evidence.
	So it seems like those videos are what it is.
	The United States government was so afraid of the case going to court because they were afraid that they have to show what the evidence is that he leaked.
	And so they ended up making him take a plea deal.
	And the plea deal, he still got nine years in prison after a plea deal.
	They took three years off because he cooperated, but it's completely disproportionate with people who got similar charges.
	So to me, he's the guy, 99.99% sure.
	I've been saying this guy's name all over.
	He's never reached out to me, telling me, hey, stop saying my name.
	I'm not the guy.
	He can never speak about these videos again because of the plea deal.
	But he would be out of prison by now.
	Yep, he's out.
	I mean, we tracked him down a little bit.
	I'm afraid to go visit him, but I sent one message to him.
	I called him one time, and somebody picked up the phone and hung up right away.
	And I went...
	Yeah, I would imagine he's been in the riot act, and he's not going to talk to anybody about this.
	So there you go.
	Because he doesn't...
	I mean, if he wants to live, then he's probably been threatened with all kinds of things.
	So let me just see if I can summarize this.
	Sure.
	Thank you for your time, and we really are long on time here, but...
	Obviously, this is just the first of many conversations we need to have about this.
	So, to summarize, what you're saying is that the United States military has some pretty exotic technology, very advanced technology that can cause airborne objects to be teleported, and that this technology may have been used in order to To rescue a plane load of microchip,
	like advanced microchip engineers, so that they could not be exploited by China, for China to have more advanced microchips than the United States, and these microchips are involved perhaps in quantum computing and faster-than-light information and all kinds of things like that, and that ever since this, it's just been a massive cover-up story by the media, which we know does cover up lots of things, obviously, like Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
	But the media covered this up in order to protect the secret that the U.S. government has this advanced technology.
	Is that a fair summary of what you've told us here for the last hour?
	Yeah, and I can't know all the motivations.
	Only United States government can issue those.
	I've given this information to the AARO that are underneath the Pentagon and the DOD. The last communication I got back almost three months ago said that the initial investigation into the plane revealed something about the U.S.'s search efforts after the plane was lost from radar.
	And they never have contacted me ever since then.
	But why wouldn't the U.S. just shoot down the plane and just kill all the engineers, shoot it down, and say it suffered a fire and fell into the ocean?
	Why do they have to roll out the orbs?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that's because you're trying to show off.
	You're trying to scare your adversary into what you're capable of.
	uh it's a it's a message to them joseph p farrell figured this out like a less than a week after the plane disappeared he did an interview he figured it all out except for the fact the same thing you said he said well if you're trying to destroy the plane you just shoot a missile at it you don't you don't throw all this effort to it it had to be a message from one government to the other stop trying to steal our people stop trying to steal our technology this is what we can do if you try um that's the best story that i can come up with it but at the end of the day united government has to be the one
	the last thing i'll say is if anybody doubts the science i would say just look into two people thomas bearded salvator paez you're looking at thomas beard and you're going to find him talking about cold explosions aka endothermic events 40 years ago in 1985 he was You're going to see him talk about all the science and technology that I've been talking about, including zero-point energy.
	Yeah, he was one of the free energy pioneers.
	And then the second one, Salvatore Paez, watch my interview with him.
	If you are somebody who knows about electrical engineering, when you watch the interview with him, it will blow your mind.
	And if you look at what his patents are, inertial mass reduction for a transmedium craft.
	Compressed fusion device.
	High frequency gravitational wave generator.
	I think that he was looking at his work in those videos.
	If he wasn't looking at his work, he was looking at what he's seen behind the scenes to develop those patents.
	He is a Space Force and Navy active engineer as well.
	As far as I know, he's been gagged after our interviews as well.
	So if all this is true, then, too, I mean, the whole global narrative about climate change is all complete bullshit because we have free energy available to us, but it's all being suppressed hugely.
	Humanity is being deprived access to this technology so that the tech can be dominated and centralized in the hands of the most evil governments of the world who are weaponizing it against we the people.
	I mean, that's essentially what you're saying, or at least that's a rational conclusion.
	And then they're hiding free energy because, hey, people can be enriched by it.
	Maybe they think it's too dangerous.
	It's probably a combination of all these factors.
	What I would say to people is the world is not black and white.
	I wish that it was, but it's just shades of gray.
	You know, lots of people out there with competing priorities, competing, you know, kind of narratives and also incentives.
	And all of these things conglomerate.
	There's some people that probably want the science and technology out.
	Because they think it will better our humanity, and there's other ones that want it hidden for their own, what they think are noble reasons, because we probably can't handle it.
	You know, that's presumably what I think the reason is, is that they're afraid we're going to destroy ourselves.
	I happen to agree.
	I think that this technology means we will destroy our own civilization.
	And I would think that you could even argue it's the answer for the Fermi Paradox.
	Why do we not see civilizations everywhere when we look into this infinite universe out in outer space?
	Probably because what we're dealing with here is a discovery, not an invention.
	When you discover your unification theory of quantum and macro, and you realize that you can create super weapons that can create black holes from the zero-point energy around us, everybody destroys themselves.
	Well, we will need to update the Drake equation with a new variable called the annihilation variable.
	There you go.
	Oh my.
	Okay.
	Well, now you've made...
	It's even less likely that I'll sleep well tonight.
	Okay, one final question, though, for you.
	I'm sure you've been asked this question.
	Our audience will ask this, and they will want me to ask you, and I apologize for asking this, but how does our audience know that you're not working with the government and spinning this kind of story to distract us from whatever really happened?
	How do you answer that kind of question?
	Yeah, that's a fair question, and I've gotten it several times.
	At the Cosmic Summit, somebody came up to me and was like, are you working with the government?
	There's Technically, I am a government contractor.
	I've worked in healthcare IT my whole career.
	If people were to look at my history, they'll find that I've only worked for a couple companies that's always been related to hospitals.
	And I've always worked for private entities that I've never worked directly for the government at all.
	But I think the biggest thing is that I'm not asking anybody to believe anything that I'm saying here.
	I'm just doing this because I want the world to know the truth in general, but I want people to look at the weight of the evidence themselves and come to their own logical conclusion for what happened.
	This is why I talk about we know the United States government must know, we know the planes don't crash without debris fields, because this is just evidence that people can absorb and they can come up to their own story.
	If people can come up with a better story that fits the evidence, I'm all for it.
	With respect to the science, I want people to learn the science themselves.
	Carl Sagan, in his last quote, or last interview, basically said, we live in a civilization based on science and technology in which no one understands the science and technology.
	And that's so true.
	Nobody understands how anything works.
	This is why it's so easy to keep this stuff in the dark.
	Is that people just say, well, that's not possible.
	And then everybody just says, yeah, I was taught that by my book.
	Well, the textbooks are wrong.
	That's the problem.
	Well, yeah, and I've never had anybody explain even magnetism in a satisfactory way, because nobody understands it.
	We don't understand it.
	They're just like, well, it's got a North Pole and a South Pole, and they repel each other.
	And I'm like, how?
	And once you start to learn about, and you listen to Thomas Bearden, and you listen to the concepts that he throws out there, it all starts to make sense.
	That's what's wild, is that all the gaps in physics, the dark energy, dark matter, why we can't manipulate gravity, all these gaps get closed immediately.
	And then you find out, like, with those DERD papers that I was mentioning, that not only did we know about this in the 80s, but there are engineers and scientists out there right now that already know all this stuff's real.
	They've been working in black projects their whole lives.
	They just don't want to be like me, because if you look on, like, probably some of the comments and stuff even related to this, you're going to see people say, this guy's full of crap, this is all bull****, blah, blah, blah, because these are rich people that have been working in black projects, and they don't want to deal with all of that.
	Do you believe that some of this has been reverse engineered from crashed alien craft?
	That's another great question.
	And the answer is the more I learn about it, the less I have any idea where it comes from.
	I think it could be anything.
	I used to think that at first, in the first week, I thought this must be aliens because it seemed that far beyond the paradigm to me.
	And then I looked into the science and went, whoa, okay, we've had this going on since the Philadelphia experiment.
	And the more I look at it, the more I go...
	Everything is on the table.
	The list of non-human intelligence stuff is like 40, 50 different options.
	It could be anything from aliens are a psyop because they want all these UFO hearings talking about aliens that don't advance any of the discussion because they're not talking about the science and technology when we're talking about alien bodies to things where future humans could be the answer or crypto for us reels or maybe we are the aliens on a prison planet or maybe AI is already one.
	End of the day, I don't even really care about that.
	The funny part is I used to be interested in the UFO phenomenon after 2017.
	I don't give a crap about it anymore.
	The only thing I care about is getting this technology out to the public.
	Because we could be living in Star Trek world or Jetsons world right now.
	Elon Musk talks about going to Mars and I just laugh.
	I'm like, why bother with Mars?
	Mars is just a dead planet.
	Let's go find a planet in the Andromeda galaxy.
	We can go there.
	Or we can go to a super-Earth that's like five times bigger than our Earth that has a similar atmosphere.
	There's infinite places we can go to.
	We can bend space-time.
	Then there is absolutely no limit.
	And the free energy concept...
	As a libertarian myself, we can completely end our dependence on energy companies and the government.
	If we can have a portable energy device that doesn't have to be plugged in, doesn't require any fossil fuels, climate change is a scam, we don't need solar, we don't need wind, we can end all pollution overnight, anytime we want.
	These are the things that I care about because I live in an area where there's a lot of homeless people.
	We have 670,000 homeless people in the United States.
	That's just the documented ones.
	We could end the homeless crisis, like basically overnight, stuff like free energy.
	You could run water desalination plants and you could grow crops for the whole world and whatever.
	I've been through the same thought experiments as well.
	Free energy would be abundance for Earth.
	And it would free people from the confines of centralized control over the money supply, the energy supply, the food supply.
	And that's the main reason why I think this type of technology is suppressed.
	They don't want people to be free.
	There's a lot of reasons.
	And one more person I want to name drop here because I was just watching interviews with him is Charles Bueller.
	So Charles Bueller was just on Glenn Beck.
	Everyone was pinging me in his interview.
	He had a thing about anti-gravity.
	What Charles Bueller is promoting is something called EM Drive, which is essentially...
	It's like...
	Infancy of this technology.
	We're well beyond this, but anybody who figures it out, it's Pandora's box.
	It's all going to open up.
	And EM drive is basically abusing the Casimir effect.
	If you're not familiar with that, you're going to hear it a lot.
	No, I've seen this.
	Yeah, it creates a very slight propulsion in one direction without expelling anything, right?
	You put plates next to one another, and basically because certain wavelengths of the zero-point energy can't fit between the plates, there's an attractive force that happens.
	And this shows that there is zero-point energy that's out there all around us that we can manipulate.
	And Charles Buehler argues that they've created a device that can create propulsion off it because they create an asymmetrical system.
	You bend it like this, now you're going to have a propulsion either that way or up or down or whatever direction.
	And this is the EM drive.
	There was also something called the Q thruster.
	The EM drive was tested by NASA Eagle Works back in the early 2000s, and they actually detected propulsion.
	And then they debunked it by claiming, oh, no, it's because of the environment or the temperature or something like this.
	Because they couldn't explain it, so they had to debunk it.
	And even Charles Bueller says that, well, we can't really explain it, but it's real, and we know it's real, and they've actually produced, according to them, significant amounts of thrust.
	Well, you don't need even much thrust in outer space, right?
	All you do is you point your ship where you want to go, and you have thrust going 24-7.
	Constantly accelerating.
	Right, constant acceleration, and you get to...
	This is the equivalent of Star Trek impulse drive, which is neat, but it's not warp drive, and it's certainly not a wormhole.
	But it is the beginning to understand it.
	And it's also the beginning to understand free energy.
	Because free energy is the manipulation of the zero-point energy that's all around us.
	It's like going to an oil field.
	And instead of just picking up the oil off of an oil field with oil seeping through, you make a well and you pump right into it.
	And you pump the energy right out.
	Yeah.
	And so once this gets figured out, this is why I'm a supporter of Charles Bueller, even though I think that it's kind of rudimentary in terms of what he's disclosing, it's still revolutionary in terms of what it will lead to.
	And it'll wake people up to realize that these physics concepts are real as well.
	Well, anything that appears to be, quote, over unity is revolutionary, right?
	Yeah.
	And that's why I've interviewed guests about low-energy nuclear reactions, so-called cold fusion and so on, which is actually low-tech.
	It's tabletop technology if you've got the right mixture of elements.
	But anyway, that's another conversation.
	So Ashton, this has been truly fascinating.
	We'll have to do this again.
	And you've done a lot of research on this, obviously.
	I really appreciate you spending the time with us.
	Let me give out your username here.
	You tell us.
	What is it again on?
	Yeah, at JustXAshton.
	At JustXAshton on Twitter.
	Also, you can find me on the same name on YouTube.
	And I believe you can find me on the same name on TikTok now as well, although I don't have a big following there yet.
	But I'm going to post more content there as well.
	I appreciate everybody that follows along with the investigation.
	If you want to know, you want to see the history of the investigation, I tried to have it be like this story where you can see the development of the investigation over time.
	Just go to my highlights and you can scroll all the way back to the beginning all the way to August.
	My highlights are just MH370 stuff.
	Cool.
	Including the science.
	So I think that'll be fun, especially if this ends up being real in the future and people want to look back through all of how this has played out.
	I mean, for me, it's been so engaging that I even read some of my own content because it's hard for me to even believe all of this is happening in general.
	So if people are out there thinking that, oh, this guy's making this up, just realize that I'm as blown away about all this as everybody else is.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, hang on after this.
	Don't hang up because I want to give you my email address.
	Let's do an AI augmentation of your videos and see what comes out of that.
	Alright, now, you are watching the interpolated AI version of this same video with added frames.
	Now, because there are twice as many frames, it appears to be in slow motion at half the speed.
	So this is going to take two minutes to watch this.
	And I understand, I can see there's some jittering and things like that in this video.
	But the original video wasn't super clear to begin with.
	However, this gives us a lot more detail.
	I can't wait to have the anti-shake version of this, by the way.
	So remember, this is the first orb coming up and meeting the plane.
	And remember, this is AI interpolated and this is a thermal image.
	So black is a cooler color.
	Blue and green are more medium heat.
	Yellow is hotter.
	Orange and red are the hottest.
	So here we go.
	Now you can see the motion of these orbs a lot more clearly in this interpolated version.
	Remember, the AI engine added frames to this.
	And you're the first to see this.
	This has not been posted anywhere before.
	Although I will send this to Ashton Forbes, obviously, because he sent me the original video.
	And again, I can't wait to have the anti-shake version of this that will be AI interpolated.
	Okay, keep watching.
	Remember, this is going to be two minutes here.
	The plane will come back into view, kind of zoomed in.
	There we go.
	Now you can really clearly see the detail of the heat signature of the orbs.
	You can see that they have their own kind of propulsion systems, and somehow they're emanating black, cool beams in front of them.
	And then, shazam, the whole plane is gone.
	All right, so thank you so much, Ashton.
	It's been a real pleasure having this conversation with you.
	I love to explore the nature of reality with intelligent people who are curious about the world around us, and you're definitely one of those people.
	So for those of you watching, I hope you enjoyed this.
	It'll give you a lot to think about, probably a lot of rabbit holes to go down to and start digging yourself and seeing what comes out of it.
	We will keep you posted, of course, with any additional breakthrough information.
	We'll ask Ashton back on to share with us.
	And you can find more interviews and videos like this at brighteon.com, uncensored, free speech video platform.
	Not YouTube, but brighteon.com.
	And feel free to repost this interview on other channels as well, and be sure to visit Ashton's channel there on X. And thank you for watching today.
	Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
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